Brandon Marshall, Sean Payton Leaves The Saints, MLB HoF Continues To Suck & FAQ's

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Today is Wednesday, January 26th, and Sean Payton has retired.

Incorrect.

Sean Payton has stepped away from the game of football.

Retired for right now.

For right now. I'm like 90% sure I can predict what's going to happen in the next two years for Sean Payton has stepped away from the game of football.
Retired for right now. For right now.
I'm like 90% sure I can predict what's going to happen in the next two years for Sean Payton. Amazon.
Amazon. That's one possibility for right now.
Also, they might put him in a booth with Drew Brees and have him do their little thing together. Be like, hey, we're the Saints.
Tell Drew Brees how to actually do analysis. Yeah, be the person in Drew Brees' ear telling him everything that he should be should be doing on tv he goes in the truck that would be great if sean payton just took like 125 000 job to be a producer in the truck yeah that'd be awesome yeah so i think he's going to step away and do that for about a year amazon and this translates to mike mccarthy currently being the most fired head coach going into next year already or mike mccarthy the lamest of ducks right now because he knows that this is Sean Payton's job.
I'm first reporting it right now. Mike McCarthy has been fired as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys exactly a year from today minus two weeks.
Yeah, or bring Sean Payton home to the Bears, which probably won't happen because I think they were trying to trade for him um and Sean Payton also I think told Ryan Pace in 2016 or 15 whenever it was don't go there that place is a disaster franchise but obviously whenever Sean Payton the rumors start for the Bears as well I he probably will go to the Cowboys you're right yes uh but it will be very weird not seeing Sean Payton on the sideline for the Saints. And I hope, I hope this doesn't mean Jameis is now losing his job in some capacity.
That would be very unfair. Jimbo Fisher to the Saints.
It's probably more likely that, remember the end of any given Sunday where Al Pacino walked away to start his new franchise with his franchise player, Jamie Foxx, Willie Beeman? That might be be what sean payton's he might be trying to find the perfect situation where he can set jamis winston up to succeed in two years i'm in for it jamis winston dallas cowboys quarterback oh buddy there's not enough prime time games in the season for that i would love love love that but yeah it's gonna be weird it's gonna be weird not seeing sean payton out there he was what he's got to be love that. But yeah, it's going to be weird.
It's going to be weird not seeing Sean Payton out there.

He was, what, he's got to be the third most tenured?

It's got to be Belichick, Harbaugh, Payton, right?

I think it's...

With their team?

That sounds right.

Off the top of my head.

That sounds right to me.

Jake, check that stat.

Andy Reid's probably up there too, which is crazy.

Yeah, but not all the way.

Mike Tomlin is probably up there, right?

Mike Tomlin is up there as well.

Belichick, Payton, Tomlin, Harbaugh, Pete Carroll.

Okay. All right, so it was close.
I've got the top three, wrong order. Just a quick stat here.
The Saints, without Sean Payton, 244-361. With Sean Payton, 152-89 in the regular season.
He's a good coach. Pretty good.
He has over half, well over half, of the Saints' entire collective history of wins

just in his tenure there.

And then obviously 9-8 in the postseason, pretty good.

Not bad.

And then I think without Sean Payton,

I don't have the number for him.

I think they're 1-4 without Sean Payton.

Makes sense.

He is the best coach in their franchise

by a large, large, large margin and a very, very good coach good coach. Should we do the Sean Payton Hall of Famer question? Well, you can't tell the story of New Orleans.
Well, you can't tell the story of football because he did change some rules by, under his study, having people try to kill Brett Favre. Yeah, without Sean Payton, we don't get the Sean Payton, Kevin James, Adam Sandler movie either.
Yes, yes. So, yeah, it was I think everyone kind of thought it might be coming.
Our Saints insider, please credit him, Ben Mintz, said that he had this news on Friday. So he told PFT that.
Retroactively Friday. He did tell me that on Friday.
He came up to me, Ben Mintz, you might know Ben Mintz if you're not familiar with him already. When I do the Patrick Mahomes

voice, that's just Ben Mintz's

regular voice. Correct.
Correct. He came up to me

Voice Brothers. He came up to me and he goes

at PFTL,

you heard any sources from any of your people

in New Orleans that John Payton might be out

in New Orleans next week. And I was like, I have

not heard that, Mintz. He's like, there's a lot of talk.

And so he did tell

me that on Friday. He established Hank heard him say that him say that right yeah pretty much that exact same conversation and uh yeah he called it ben mince says he is the king of new orleans yeah so please give him credit how have you guys not talked about the retweet heard around the world which one schefter oh he retweeted rappaport whoa's giving up for sportsmanship.
I can change and you can change. Maybe Schefter thinking, you know, I'm going to be leaving ESPN soon.
I can start giving a couple back here. Do you think Schefter lets Rappaport break the news that he leaves ESPN? Ooh, that would be spicy.
I will bring Leroy back from the dead to break the news of Adam Schefter. Yes.
Leaving ESPN. Adam, let me know.
He might be coworkers with Sean Payton at Amazon. I think Amazon's going to just hire everyone.
I think Adam Schefter is going to go do business with some casino, and he's going to hoard all the information, set the lines. Fucked up.
It's going to be very fucked. Most importantly, though, it is birthday week.
It is birthday week. You're a part of my take.
So next Sunday and Monday, me and Big Cat's birthday, I was wondering if maybe to celebrate our birthdays and basically the end of pretty much dry January, Jake, you, Billy, and Big Cat wanted to go out for maybe some margaritas or something this weekend. This weekend? Yeah, you three.

Can we do it Thursday?

Yeah, we can do it Thursday.

Oh, why, Billy?

What do you got?

I think.

Well, hey, I was just saying, like, Hank and Liam aren't allowed

because they're not content.

Billy, you got the whole team.

You got something, Billy?

You got something this weekend we don't know about?

Some big plans?

It's been a long-standing plan.

Oh, okay.

Sorry. All right, so you won't be joining us for our birthday margaritas could you on thursday sure just as long as those two don't come yeah

i'm also out we're not we're not allowed to hang i'm not going but you guys should go

sounds miserable that will be don't get too drunk um the bears got a new gm so the bears got a new

gm ryan poles he's about to be announced uh pretty much the news there is that he's from the Chiefs. Chiefs have good players.
It's never been a bad thing for the Bears to hire someone from the Chiefs staff. And Schefter, sorry, not Schefter.
Greeny dropped a fucking fire, fire joke on this hiring. You say it like you're surprised that Greeny would say something.
He said if the nameplate on the office door said Ryan P, they won't even have to change it. That's a good joke.
Damn. Damn, you got nuked.
Because everyone has their nameplates be the first name last initial. Ryan P.
I could actually see the Bears doing that,yan p i would die for ryan p they also had mccaskey go to o'hare and pick him up and it's like look he he cares like yeah this is the things are changing you know but i like i don't whenever you hire a new gm it's uh it's basically like you have to be in the league circles to actually give an assessment i hope he's good i hope he's he's good, and they're going to do the same thing they did with Pace, where they hire a young GM and then an old coach in Jim Colton. Was he involved at all in the drafting of Patrick Mahomes? He was.
He's been with the Chiefs for a very long time. It's crazy how one guy, Pat Mahomes, can make everybody around him so much money and make them all look like geniuses.
Absolutely. Because they absolutely nailed on that one pick.
Yes. But they have, I mean, the Chiefs have a lot of, like, talented guys.
They have a very, very talented roster. They do.
But without Patrick Mahomes, like, it's easy to be a great wide receiver or tight end when you have Pat Mahomes throwing you the ball. Yeah, good chicken and the egg.
Yeah, those guys are really good. Kelsey would be good anyways.
Tyreek Hill is obviously a special guy. But credit to them, they nailed the picking, the selection of Patrick Mahomes.
Maybe you'll get your own Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs do deserve credit for revamping their entire offensive line in one year.
Because that is kind of crazy when you think about it. Last year they went to the Super Bowl, they lost in the Super Bowl, he got his ass kicked, and they figured out a way to get a whole new offensive line.
I'm not rooting for any injuries, but Kyle Long is waiting, active, ready to get in. I re-watched the game on Monday night.
It was on NFL Network. And I still, with two minutes left at the two-minute warning, as I'm watching it, I still didn't really understand.
I i knew it was coming and i still didn't understand how it was going to happen like the the fact that the bills were celebrating with 13 seconds left and everything that happened after gabriel davis scores his fourth touchdown like i i know i watched this but it still doesn't make sense to me it really doesn't that the end end of that game is just crazy. It's as good as football gets.

It really is.

I did a lot of watching of all the alternate camera angles

and all the viral content that came out right after the game was over

because I didn't get a chance to do that as we were recording the show

because there's a lot of stuff that happens.

I saw Patrick Mahomes sprint over to Josh Allen,

just give him a giant hug.

That's the first thing that he did after they won that game was he ran over to Josh and just held him. These guys respect each other.
And he was like, we're going to be doing this a lot. And like goosebumps.
Yeah. Goosebumps.
I hope that they are. It is really crazy.
I mean, you never know what's going to happen in sports. You never know what's going to happen in football year to year.
But to think like we might have gone AFC for 20 years, Brady Manning with Roethlisberger and Rivers mixed in there. And it might be Mahomes Allen with Burrow and Herbert mixed.
Like it's awesome. Lamar Jackson, who we've all forgotten Lamar Jackson because he was injured for half the year.
But it's the league's in good hands. That's all we're going to say.
We're going to get sentimental. It's in good hands.
Can I just say that this probably isn't going to happen, and I feel almost bad putting it out into the universe. What if the Ravens moved on from Lamar Jackson? Why? Why? He got hurt.
They got rid of his offensive coordinator. I think they're going to stick with him.
I'm just saying. I think they're going to stick with him.
Just saying. We'll keep an eye on the situation as it develops in Baltimore.
Okay, so you actually have sources or you just – No, this is complete and utter reckless speculation. Yeah, I don't see it happening.
He just won an MVP. I just said keep an eye on it.
Yeah, what were you going to say, Billy?

AB wants to play with Jackson.

That's kind of what

Antonio Brown has to do at this point. Just pick

one guy and just be like, I want to

play with him to

make it seem like, hey, he's fixed because he really

wants to play with this guy.

And that would be the only way he gets back.

How sick would it have been, though, if Antonio Brown had been on the bills?

I bet you he feels like a real idiot

not going to Buffalo.

That team...

Thank you. be the only way he gets back.
I mean, how sick would it have been though if Antonio Brown had been on the Bills? I'll bet you he feels like a real idiot not going to Buffalo. Yeah.
That team, maybe they could have beaten the Chiefs with Antonio Brown. I didn't realize Gabriel Davis too, like he's locked up for another year.
They're going to be fine. The Bills will be fine.
They have some decisions to make. It does suck whenever you lose front office and coaches, which they will lose some of that.
Like they already lost someone from their front office. They'll probably lose Brian Dable.

The Bears will probably hire Leslie Frazier.

So, yeah, it does suck when that happens, but that's just part of success.

You really think the Bears are going to hire Frazier? No, I just think they're going to do something stupid.

That would be very stupid if they hired Frazier.

I mean, that's what they would do.

I'm actually fully sold in on Dan Quinn.

I'm back.

I'm back.

I love the guy. I think that Dan Quinn could work if he went to a place that had a solid quarterback.
That's what Dan Quinn does. He does defense.
Don't trust him to make any in-game decisions. Let him run the defense and let him be the rah-rah guy.
I'm ready for him. I'm ready for Dan Quinn.
I've come all the way around. It would just be a nice thing to have.
I also just want to throw out there, I'm now at I've listened to like four or five Packer podcasts. It's it gets worse with time because it's the realization that they're going to have to blow that thing up is very, very fun.
So they are. I think they are.
I think Rodgers is probably going to have to he's probably going to go somewhere else. Go to Denver.
Youver denver they have legalized mushrooms in denver that's true okay so denver for for aaron rogers um you sure about that uh i actually am sure about this one the wisconsin when i was way off but i mean listen our fact checking on this show is you google something and then if the giant words come up on the front page of google that's what you you go with at that point. So they don't have recreational marijuana in Wisconsin.

That was a mistake.

Yeah, Billy?

I think they have religious marijuana.

They have religious marijuana.

The best type.

The Rastafaris are happening.

No, seriously.

You heard it?

All the Rastafarians in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's near Wisco.

What?

Near Madison?

Yeah.

Wisco.

I'm pretty sure you get weed in a Rastafarian church. You roll up to the church and grab an eighth? Yeah.
Where did you hear this? Which church? When my buddy goes to Wisco. So your buddy who goes to Madison is like, hey, I can get it legal.
If you're on a college campus and you can't find weed. You're a cop.
You're like, what are we talking about here? I think you smoke it in the church. church why wouldn't you smoke in your apartment i have no idea like so i'd actually like to talk to a like a college kid and who can't find weed like what's what's wrong with you so there are some churches in madison that distribute marijuana as a sacrament yeah that's that's the religious but wisconsin city officials are also trying to stop them from doing it.

But that would be a Christ. Yeah, you can get weed.
That's where Rastafarianism, that's one of their sacraments, is they smoke a lot of pot. It's a Jamaican religion.
Is your friend really, though, like, it's so sweet here we can go to this church to get weed? Again, on a college campus. You just tell me about this, and I was like, what? Why can't you just go to probably like the guy next door to you in the dorm to get the weed right it's a good story you can just start a church and have it give you whatever i'm gonna start a church of beer cocaine and ska music there we go sounds like a bar yeah yeah and winners yeah and sports on tv it doesn't count because it's it's religion you can't count losers yeah No, I literally just made a bar.
Yeah. And winners.
And sports on TV. It doesn't count because it's religion.
You can't count losers. Yeah, no, I literally just made a bar.
Yeah. Yeah.
Where you can do with private bathrooms for cocaine. Yes.
The confessionals. Yes.
The other news story we had besides that, because we're obviously waiting for Championship Sunday, which we're going to have Julian Edelman on on Friday's show.

The MLB, the Hall of Fame, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens officially not in. I think they go off the ballot now.
And we had Tom Verducci pop up and pen an incredible piece of work. It's beautiful.
He said in this piece, he said, talking about Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens not getting the majority, the 75% majority, to make it into the Hall of Fame. He said, in fact, for the past six years, most voters believe Bonds and Clemens should be in the Hall of Fame.
A majority is not enough. That's the beauty of the process.
That's not the not the beauty of the when a majority of people and everyone who watched them play think they should be in the hall of fame and a bunch of fucking loser old writers are holding it up that's basically the worst process you're just grabbing the electoral college yes baseball yes yes it's dumb it's really dumb barry bonds should be a hall barryry bonds is a hall of famer he's the best baseball player of all time you could say that barry bonds should be the first if you were to get rid of everybody in the hall of fame barry bonds should be the first person re-inducted into the hall of fame i just don't understand the the hypocrisy is is is so blatant with these fucking writers and tom verducci at the top of the list. Like, you vote.
I looked it up, right? So amphetamines and greenies, which are just talked about openly and basically talked about in like a poetic way where people say, oh, remember the days when we just would take speed to hit baseballs? People are like, oh, those are performance-enhancing drugs. I mean, Daryl Strawberry once said, when you take amphetamines, the ball looks so big, it's like you could hit anything.
They also, the innings pitched, this is my favorite because I know Tom Verducci has voted for some of these guys. There was in, so there's 300 innings pitched, right? Has not happened in basically the last 30 years.
And it spiked innings pitched, 300 innings pitched in a season. They had in the 60s and 70s and early 80s, there were guys pitching 300 innings on the regular because of amphetamines.
It coincided with amphetamine use. And those guys are in the Hall of Fame, and I have no problem with it.
But then they talk about the steroid error, and they sound like such losers. Oh yeah, not to mention the fact the steroid error literally saved Tom Verducci's job.
It saved baseball. In the mid-90s, baseball was dead after the players.
Was it a strike or a lockout back in the 90s? I think it was a lockout. It was a lockout back in the mid-90s.
They played half the season. And they brought in replacement players, and baseball was dead.
The fans were pissed off. They didn't want to be around for the millionaires versus billionaires war.
They felt like they were used. What happens over the course of the next three years? Oh, yeah, Mark McGuire starts hitting the moon with baseballs on a regular basis.
Brady Anderson knocks 50 home runs in a season sammy sosa and mcguire summer saved baseball yeah tom verducci probably wrote a million articles about how incredible that story was he probably got a contract a new contract from sports illustrated based on the fact that baseball popularity was booming and he was a baseball writer yeah and now he's basically saying these guys don't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, even though Major League Baseball has not stricken any of their records. Well, I would also like to point out that those guys never tested positive for steroids.
They never got suspended. They never got all their records stand.
So what are we doing here? They're the best cheaters of all time. Barry Bonds, you can make the argument, Barry Bonds is the best cheater that has ever existed.
Not only is he the best baseball player that ever played, even before he was taking the juice, the cream and the clear, Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer. Then he started cheating, but he started getting away with it.
Never got caught. Not a single time was his piss flagged.
He was only named in certain reports by people as someone that received steroids or received HGH. Also, his head got up to you know like the size of a four ball tire so i don't i don't think that you can you can hold that against somebody if they never actually got caught for it well they got away with it it's crazy because major league baseball all their records stand yeah it's it's not it's they stand and they never got suspended and yet a bunch of fucking old baseball writers are getting to play like judge, jury, executioner on baseball history.
I just, the whole thing makes me laugh because those guys saved baseball, steroid users saved baseball. All these writers wrote about it.
They talked about how incredible it was, the most incredible summer of all time time now we're 25 years later and the same writers are essentially trying to ruin baseball by being old stuck up assholes about a sport that needs younger audiences it's a very specialized skill more so than any other type of journalism to be a baseball writer yes like baseball right i feel like you're born a baseball writer you don't just become one it's in your blood you come out of that you come out of the womb with a fedora on a diet coke in your hand and just a sense of salt righteous a little pop belly indignation tommy bahama shirt you're yeah you go around getting scoops from your classmates in elementary school turning in your notes to the principal it's a different breed to be a blood pressure yeah yeah you got you got chest hair and you're pre-diabetic when you're born you come out eating a t-bone steak from st louis yeah and you just you worship at the at the altar of bob costas sunday jake did you know it was there a baseball writers class it should be a special major there was a sports writers class i didn't take take it. Did you know any baseball writers? We're not asking actual baseball writers, but kids that were like, that could be yours.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's answering you.
No. Do you think they should be in the Hall of Fame? Yes.
Without a doubt. Yes.
Even though they cheated and broke the rules. I'm just drilling down.
Even though all these kids that watched them, all their memories have been stripped. I wouldn't say that.
Even though they're down a rabbit hole with the homers. No, they've been deleted off of YouTube.
I'd say worse than that, Jake, the youngsters were shown role models that it was okay to use drugs. Maybe that's why our society as a whole is falling apart right now.
All those kids that grew up on these home run dingers are now coming of age and rotting culture i think they deserve to be in you still we're just you know we're writing a baseball column right now is it and isn't it strange that the one thing that could keep our society from falling apart at the seams is baseball i i want my column i want someone to actually connect that like how we're in like we're in a very weird part of American history and social media and economic, whatever it may be, because of the kids that grew up watching Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire. Someone make that connection for me.
I'm sure that it's out there. Yeah.
All right. So before we get to hot seat, cool throwing, though, I did want to – one of my favorite things to do is look up Barry Bonds' stats.
He's got the best pro baseball reference page of all time. But just throwing a couple out there because they're just fun to say, Barry Bonds has 1,000 more walks than strikeouts in his career.
1,000 plus more. He had 575 plate appearances against Hall of Famers and he hit 292 and he had just 7 strikeouts against Hall of Famers 41 times he was walked with the bases empty makes no sense he was intentionally walked with the bases empty he was also intentionally walked walked with the bases full.
Correct. Correct.
More than once.

Correct.

26.3% of all Barry Bonds at bats ended with a home run or a walk.

That's pretty good.

And then from 2001 to 2004, 39.5% of all Barry Bonds at bats ended with a home run or a walk.

You just didn't pitch to the guy. And then here's another one that's just fucking, this one's insane.
From 2001 to 2004, Barry Bonds played 573 baseball games. He reached base in 539 of them.
94% of the games he played in that stretch, he got on base. Holy shit.
It's crazy. It's like, that guy should be in the Hall of Fame.
They should name the Hall of Fame after Barry Bonds. You can maybe put a wing that explains the steroid error.
I don't give a fuck. Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer.
End of story. Fuck Tom Verducci.
I would love to have Tom Verducci on to just be like, what's your problem? He could actually just straight his own hall of fame yeah like i'm doing my own who's coming with me i hope i i would love for barry bonds to come back for like a a day and play play in a game to reset his clock so we can just keep so we can really keep the pressure on him so what what happens now that he's not going to be automatically on the ballot can could he get written in i think it it's something where now he goes to the old-timers ballot or something where he could eventually get in, but they essentially just need enough of these old idiots to die and then young people to take over for him. Because wouldn't it be the most baseball writers thing ever if they just did this to send a message and they kept him off the ballot or they kept him out of the Hall of Fame for this long and now that the message has been sent, they gallantly all write his name in next year to let him into the Hall of Fame.
That would be like a Rudy version where they're just all putting their fucking jerseys down. Exactly, yeah.
Now you've proven yourself worthy of making our Hall of Fame young barrel. He negged them into, yeah, we're going to keep you out for the 15.
Now, only now, when you enter our Hall of Fame. When we say it's time.
Yes, yes. It's a fucking museum.
It's a museum. That's the craziest part.
It's a museum that tells the history of a sport, of America's past. It's probably the best museum to go to with your dad, though.
Oh, yeah. I would say.

Hooper sounds fun.

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Tom vs. Time.

Tom vs. Time.
Yeah, what's the deal with the documentary? On his podcast, the Let's Go, that still hasn't come out. He talked about the end of the season.
He made some quotes. Obviously, he knows people are waiting on his decision.
But for my personal takeaway, it seems like he's gone. What? Talking about Giselle.
He said, it pains Giselle to see me get hit out there she deserves what she needs for me as a husband and my kids deserve what they need for me as a dad team doesn't deserve anything less than my best if I feel like I'm not committed to that or I can't play at a championship level then you've got to give someone else a chance to play I it's obviously a toss-up you know you know he's the only one that knows what's going happen, but from right now where I stand, I feel like he's going to walk away. Really? Do you think that that's why they're delaying the release of the last episode? They're waiting to make a decision.
That was just like I saw a tweet about it, and then I got in the replies. I don't know if that's the case.
I doubt it is. It is kind of weird that they released one every week and then didn't release the 10 10th one it would be very funny if the Packers got rid of Aaron Rodgers or Aaron Rodgers left the Packers and then Tom Brady's like you know what I'll play for the Packers this year and then win a Super Bowl for the Packers he would never go to the cold back to the cold I think he's going to do one more year I think the Bucs have one more year where they can kick the can down the road with their financial situation, and they can be like, let's do it.
Let's bring everyone back. Our good friend Stephen Shea showed me the all-22 of the play.
It's crazy how, I mean, it's a cliche game of inches, but how these games come down to just one little thing. And if you watched the end zone version that Stephen Chase showed me, Levante David was supposed to blitz.
They were going like all out blitz and he just didn't. And that was like, what do you have got? What do you have got there? He did Sue kind of got there and he was going to get, he was basically going to be on the other side of Sue.
So who knows? Maybe, you know, maybe he kind of winning his or the guy tries to chip Levante David. It's just nuts how those little things decide who's going to win the Super Bowl.
Also, Matt Stafford fumbled the ball earlier on that drive and almost didn't recover it. Another game of inches situation there.
It probably would have been smart for the Bucs to not cover a Cooper Cup one-on-one with a safety. But if they get home, it's, you know.
I don't. The Bills' defense was crazy, too.
Yeah, see, I actually think the Bucs' defense was better than the Bills' defense. The Bills were just giving.
They backed off like it was the last play of the game. If Levante David blitzes, they probably get to a point where he can't get that throw off and you're not giving away.
Essentially, we're saying we're not going to let you get 20 yards for a field goal here. We're going to try to be proactive and not give you.
We're going to be aggressive here at the Bills. Yeah, that Kelsey play when they have Patrick Mahomes saying, Kelsey, do it.
It's crazy. That was a very easy play to defend.
It should have been. Yeah.
The Bills are playing. It was ridiculous.
The Bills are playing like they could only not let up a touchdown. Well, no.
The worst part about the Bills defense in my mind is that it's almost like they forgot that the Chiefs had timeouts. Yeah.
Because they were playing sidelines instead of, they can go in the middle of the field because they can call a timeout.

So the middle of the field was wide open.

Both that and the Tyreek Hill pass.

Sorry, Bills fans.

And then my cool throne, I'm not.

The cool throne is China.

China?

China.

This was just, this made me laugh.

I don't know why.

It was from, it was Lice Cameron Barstool.

They just started streaming the Fight Club movie in China, but they changed the ending. The explosion...
What? Is this... Are you going to tell me this is fake? No, no.
I wasn't. I just didn't know if we wanted to spoil Fight Club for people out there that haven't seen it.
Yeah, that's kind of fucked up, Hank. This is what happens at the end of Fight Club.
If you're in China, if you're in China, all the Chinese AWLs, if you go to the movie theater or stream it, the explosion scene has been replaced with text which states, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding. That's awesome.
I love it completely. The end is they blow up every credit card company in the world and wipe out debt.
In this one, it's like the cops got them. Yep.
Cops got them. Stay inside.
Don't try any of this shit. President Xi responded individually and killed all the bad guys himself.
Yeah. Glory to the state.
That's perfect. But yeah, it made me laugh.
I love some good propaganda. I really do.
This is great stuff. Yeah.
All right, PFT, your hot seat will turn on. My hot seat is Spotify.

Spotify is on the hot seat.

I always had them as well.

Okay.

Because Neil Young put their asses in the jackpot big time.

Neil Young, you might remember him from a bunch of hits.

The Leonard Skinner song.

Yeah, well, yeah, Skinner sang about him in reference to Neil Young's song,

Southern Man, about Jim Crow.

But Neil Young said, you have to get rid of, hey, Spotify, you have to get rid of the Joe Rogan podcast or get rid of me. This town ain't big enough for the two of us.
Make your decision, balls in your court. I'm going to guess that they're going to keep Neil Young because I don't think that Joe Rogan's doing numbers.
Yeah, you're right. I think Neil Young brings in upwards of 10,000 listeners a month.
It's more about, like, if you're Spotify, your plan is to try to bring in new, younger listeners in Neil Young. Neil Young, yeah.
You get that. The 75-year-old Canadian folk singer, I think, is what the kids are looking for these days.
I do actually love Neil Young. Really? Yeah, I think he's good.
I'm not trying to yuck your yum.

I do not like Neil Young.

Why?

Just not something I'm into.

Okay.

You can be into it.

That's fine.

I'm not telling you what to believe.

I know that Billy absolutely loves your... Are you nervous at all?

No, no.

I love Neil Young's music, but Neil Young's kind of a shithead.

Is he?

Because of this?

No, no, no.

Because he literally has three kids. It's just a whole...
Never mind. never mind oh damn so i'm one kid away from being a shithead no he he fucks too much he abandoned a rock star a rock star no you know he like abandoned kids not out of wedlock i'm i'm damn i'm gonna tell you what billy's doing right now billy has gone into war mode because he threatened his idol, Joe Rogan.
So Billy's been reading the replies to replies, finding out why Neil Young is actually problematic. Am I way off on that, Billy? Find the exact story.
Speaking of that, a guy made a war mode remix that we're going to put at the end of the song. I haven't even listened to it.
The email said, this isn't a Take On Me remix. It's just a song about war mode.
You don't like Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young? I do like Crosby, Stills,by stills now there you go that's neil yeah yeah i like i like that um he does the old man take a look at my life yeah that's a good song too um horse with no name no that's not neil young no that's that you're thinking of something else oh cast you're thinking of cats in the cradle yeah when i had my son and hank played that song and i was like hank if you're listening to that song it basically says that the dad works works so much and isn't around that the son then turns his back on the dad when he grows up. And he's like, oh, what? It's a good song for having a kid.
Good jam. It's like the worst song.
How funny would it be? Good song. Neil Young should be like, hey, I'll record every Joe Rogan podcast, but Neil's version, like Taylor's version.
So I'll say all the words that Joe Rogan says,

but it's Neil Young time, baby.

So yeah, Neil Young, see you.

There's the door.

I'm sure Spotify is not going to lose any sleep over that decision.

My cool throne is Cincinnati

because I've been inundated with Cincinnati facts this week.

Like we said on Monday's show,

we don't really learn that much about cities

until their sports teams do well. It's like learning about countries and geography when we start bombing them.
So I've had a bunch of people reach out to me. In fact, Barstool Gooch, Robbie Goochman, hit me up and he gave me some Cincinnati facts because I think he's from Cincinnati.
So here's some Cincinnati facts. You ready? the world's last passenger pigeon martha died in cincinnati in 1914 wow i think she was the oldest passenger pigeon in the world uh cincinnati fact they once tried to build a subway system but abandoned it halfway through so now there's just abandoned tunnels underneath the city of cincinn never been used.
That's pretty cool. Cincinnati fact.

They're the cornhole capital of the world. I believe that.
I believe that too. Cincinnati fact.
The city was known as Porkopolis in the 1800s because of the pork industry. And there are a lot of flying pig statues.
That's cool. All over the city.
Cincinnati fact. Cincinnati fact.
Cincinnati requested that they become the capital of the United States

back in the late 1700s when we moved it out of Philadelphia because they said we're more centrally located. That's good.
Can't get attacked. We said, no, thank you, but thank you for the offer, Cincinnati.
Cincinnati fact. So I think that's the entire history.
Oh, and they also haven't killed a beloved primate in almost six years.

Cincinnati, they're on a hot streak.

Yeah, that is a hot streak. I've learned a lot

about the city of Cincinnati this week. Sounds like it.

A lot of big time, big stuff.

A lot of big facts out there. I hope I got

everything in, and thank you to the good people

of Cincinnati for reaching out.

Alright, my hot seat is

defense, and people who

love defense, because

I don't know if you guys saw, but we had some

alternate takes, which

Thank you. All right, my hot seat is defense and people who love defense because I don't know if you guys saw, but we had some alternate takes, which maybe we'll put in the takeies this summer, of that game on Sunday night.
We had some people saying that they're just playing Madden on rookie mode and it's not that exciting because defense isn't playing any – there's no good defense and all these throws are pedestrian against bad defense. So defense is on the hot seat.
We need someone to show up with a good defensive performance in these final three games. Otherwise, it's flag football.
It would be incredible. It would be incredible.
What if Cincinnati just went out there and held Kansas City to 15 points? We know that's impossible because there's no chance that Cincinnati can beat the Chiefs the chiefs correct but i would love to see a like a defensive battle yeah and do we forget the 49ers and packers game there was a lot of 49ers really good defense very good defense very good defense wins championships um all right my cool throne is i i did did you guys see that that one tweet where someone was like this must be what it feels like for kids kids to find out Santa Claus isn't real. And it was a text someone shared from their dad saying, defense no longer wins championships.
Oh, no. Damn.
That's brutal. What do you mean about the Santa Claus part? That's so brutal for a dad to just be like, wait, you can't win a championship with a defense? You can.
The Bucs did last year. Don't worry.
It's such a tough thing because the saying,

offense wins games, defense wins championships,

is just objectively a cool thing to say.

It's great.

And it looks good on a T-shirt.

When your coach says it, you buy all the way in.

Yep.

But it turns out sometimes in life, adults lie to you.

Yeah.

And they don't always even know that they're lying to you.

Yes.

Turns out that scoring points can win games and championships

because guess what?

You have to win games to win championships.

But again, I'm saying like that the defense won the championship last year.

The Bucs won the championship because of their defense.

So are we saying right now take the under in the Super Bowl?

Take the Niners. Future.
Defense wins championships. That's our defense wins championships pick.
My cool throne is the entire Eastern Conference of the NBA because James Harden is upset. So this is going well.
I fucking love the Nets. Kevin Durant's hurt.
Kyrie Irving plays half the games. And I saw the quote.
The sources were like, James't enjoy living in Brooklyn not just because of the climate but also the state income tax is different than Texas. You think? Like yeah.
You're the one who wanted to get out. So it seems like it's not going so well in Brooklyn.
Not great but they are the first team to enter the metaverse so that's huge. That's enormous.
I have no idea what that but they're there congratulations go watch them uh billy mind if i stat pad go off go ahead uh my first hot seat is britney spears's father apparently he had like some insane bugging of every hotel room video and audio that britney was in and had like a 24 7 surveillance uh apparatus on britney at all times like some pretty creepy stuff so yeah he's like scott pioli and todd haley yeah and my second hot seat is number two pencils guess what the sat and standardized tests are all going online by 2024 whoa so number two pencils out the anymore. Damn.
Almost extinct. Bubbles.
Filling in the bubbles is like very therapeutic. It is.
When you know the answers. When you don't, it's the worst.
No, it is. It's a version of coloring for students.
Do they even make number one pencils and number three pencils? I think so. It's a different lead size, right? I've never seen anything besides a number two pencil.
I actually got a couple. Oh, okay.
Nice. Some black market pencils.
I got some number fours. Got them from the church.
Yeah. Some Dixons.
Third hot seat. Ticonderoga.
Oh, yeah. I was a Pintec guy myself.
You would. You'd smash pencil fights.
Doing what you want. Brittany Lynn, Patrick's wife, went out and said that she's going to do the Spears.
No, this is... Oh, Brittany Lynn.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I've actually come around on this. I think it's a hilarious move.
At first, I was like, this is crazy, but then, obviously, when you think about the context of the game, anything goes. Yeah.
Again, popping champagne after the divisionalional round a little a little dicey but what did they say what people that are like flipping out about her she was saying that she can't every week it's a new thing that people criticize her for I she did post this herself that's what it's like I don't I don't hate the move but like no she posted on her Twitter I'm I'm getting woke to like this is actually perfect for Patrick Mahomes because they're lightning rods. Brittany Lynn and Jackson Mahomes are lightning rods where any hate for Patrick Mahomes just goes to them and not Patrick Mahomes.
It's genius. He actually comes off looking better because people have sympathy.
They're like, oh, man, I can't believe that Patrick has to deal with this. What a good guy guy in reality like she's probably a pretty normal person she's celebrating a huge win by by pouring champagne she was probably drunk as a lot of us would probably do in that exact same situation spray people with champagne it seems like a lot of fun uh i don't have a problem with it i really don't she's's basically the first lady of the city of Kansas City

right now. Yes, and it's

actually a testament to how

incredible Patrick Mahomes is

that the only negative thing

you can say about him is you don't like his

wife and his brother.

Think about that. I love the fact that his

wife and his brother are like thick as thieves.

Yeah, right. They're just running around causing

chaos all the time. What's the positives? Oh, he's one of the greatest quarterbacks.
He makes mind-numbing throws. He can run.
He just keeps the pocket alive. What are his cons? I really don't like his wife's Instagram and his brother's TikTok.
Okay. What are we talking about? But guess what? Yeah.
They're good at getting eyeballs on their TikToks. Correct.
I'm coming around on Jackson Mahomes. I respect how annoying he is.

Yeah, he is.

He does do that.

All right, what's your cool throne?

Cool throne, SEC football.

Joe Burrow made the controversial statement

of saying SEC stadiums were louder than NFL stadiums.

I feel like that was an old quote.

Which was now brought up by an NFL veteran

who thought that it was quite controversial.

But it's getting resurfaced. Yeah, resurfaced.
This is clickbait. Billy, you're clickbaiting people without context.
I feel like Arrowhead in January is going to be a little different. I mean, some SEC stadiums, we know Tiger Stadium is very, very loud.
But that place would be loud. He didn't have to play against Tiger Stadium, though.
Yes. All right, Jake.

Billy's stat padding kind of screwed me.

Oh, no.

Billy's that kid

who takes two pieces of pizza

before someone gets one.

Call out the Glennie Balls.

Chick-fil-A.

So I'll go with my hot seat.

Penalty flag.

So they announced

the Super Bowl crew,

Ron Torbert.

They are collabing.

It's not a crew he's worked with. So there's like ref stats.
That's so stupid. Yeah.
Okay. Way to fuck that up, NFL.
So wait, they're taking a crew that has to work together. I don't think they've worked together.
It's like an all-star game? I think it's like an all-star game. I don't like that, actually.
No. You get to shine? Yeah.
Like I made the all-star game? Yeah, but they're going to be trying to fucking show up. What, being a ref? Yeah.
I feel like chemistry is more important than that. Yes.
You want a crew that's been styled together. They're greater than the sum of their parts.
Yeah. Right.
And then my cool throne is the AWLs who are golf fans. Brooks Koepka, Max Homa playing together at the Farmers Insurance Open.
Yes. That'll be fun.
That will be fun. For Brooks.
They'll probably be talking about us the whole time. What do you think the line is? Brooks minus five and a half? I was going to say 7,000.
I love Max. Max's tempo, unbelievable.
As we're doing now, we're complimenting his tempo. It's just the fact that Max does well the harder we lean on him.
Yeah, exactly. He'll win some fucking fake-ass tournament.
Actually, right around now, this is Max season. That's what I'm saying.
This is like February and October of Max season when everyone stops playing golf. Max wins the tempo was like a few weeks ago.
Yeah, he just waits until all the pros go home, and then he's like, I just won $10 million playing the PlayStation Open in fucking Anaheim on a Tuesday in fucking November. The Little Rock Par 3 nine-hole challenge.
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Now here is Brandon Marshall. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Brandon Marshall. He has a podcast, I Am Athlete.
He just had Antonio Brown on it. He's also on Inside the NFL with our good friend Julian Edelman.
Doing everything in studio. Good to see you, man.
What's up, Big Cat? I mean, last time I saw you, I was saying we were at Jay Cutler's wedding. It was a good time.
That was probably the last time I'd seen you. Yeah, and the last time I'd seen him.
Oh, I want to get right into it. You guys got to get back together.
Well, what's the secret of making up, right? It's time. Just time.
Just time. Just time heals all wounds.
Because that was, yeah, we and I didn't talk for a few years. And then time just healed it all.
And then we ended up in the same city in New Orleans for the national championship. And it was like we hadn't missed a beat, though.
So I have hope for you guys. Well, of course.
That's the Cuddy. That's um no that would be legendary i would love to you know sit down with jay on i am matthew or his new podcast is pretty dope yeah it'd be cool to sit down with him and reunite and kind of relive some of those old moments the good the bad the ugly yeah was it was it like off and on hot and cold while you were playing with him no uh i mean i mean we're like brothers so I mean I wouldn't say it was it was like lovely all the time you know we fought all the time but there was two rough patches when um Josh McDaniels came in and put him on a trading block and he found out about that and then he just kind of went you know MIA on everyone on everyone.
So no one heard from him then. And then when he was playing for the Chicago Bears, that last year was brutal on everyone.
And so that took a toll on our relationship. And that's really what did it.
But, you know, what's interesting is when you're locked in, you're in a 16 billion dollar business and you're making millions of dollars dollars you know the pressure that we put on ourselves and our relationships is is unbelievable i find myself now like going back and you know hitting up some of my old teammates like man you know at the end of the day we're still brothers you know what i'm saying like you know that we got to go in there and win and there's a lot of pressure there's a lot of tension but now it's over like we're gonna hold on to that you get a little distance between it and you can look back and be like that we went through some shit together and in a moment there's there's all the tension all the stuff that happens on a day-to-day but you can look back on it and be like this guy was we're actually brothers coming out of it yes football i mean at the end of the day it's football like okay you know jay and i on the football field was like it was football now football is no longer there Right. And I know you've talked about it, but you got drafted the same class as him.
Our good friend Tony Scheffler also. Love Tony, yeah.
Second round pick of that draft. You guys went through life experiences that probably you can't – like no one else understands it.
Tony said that you guys, after your first year, went and trained in Atlanta in the summer that's right together like those things where you have all your your whole entire nfl career in front of you feels like the possibilities are endless and you guys are all grinding together that can't you can never take that away yeah i mean you have teammates and then you have brothers you know jay and tony uh sheffler they were brothers elvis doom if you can throw him in there i mean we're inseparable inseparable. You know, whether it's the offseason, training together, sitting down, doing a year and say, okay, what are we going to do this year to get better together? You know, those moments, hell, the first time I ever had a red wine was with Jay Cutler.
You know, there was a lot of firsts with Jay, you know, and Tony. So, you know, we're brothers and, you know, that's the difference between some cats in the locker room some dudes just your your co-workers yeah what um so you're you're podcasting now you're on tv you had antonio brown on your podcast what what was your biggest takeaway from that because there's obviously a lot has been said like oh antonio brown's crazy oh all this what when you got to sit down with him man to man and you walk away from the interview afterwards what was your takeaway um he's a superstar absolute superstar I mean it it was as if we were sitting down with an entertainer you know um I think the difference between sports and entertainment well the well the biggest, the biggest difference between sports and entertainment is it's a team.
No one's bigger than a team. No one's bigger than that logo.
No one's bigger than that mission. Entertainment.
Right. Like and it's just ball.
Right. Entertainment.
You got characters. You know, you have this you put this persona on and, you know, you could you could see him kind of get into that entertainment persona, that character.
You know, he knew the cameras was on. Everything mattered from his haircut to how he dressed, like all of that.
You know, that's kind of counterculture to a lot of ballplayers. So I think, you know, that's a big topic there because, you know, will we see more Antonio Browns, you know, with social media evolving and everybody's a brand.
You got Neil name image likeness now. So you can start paying guys at high school and college.
So they're going to come in already thinking about business, thinking about their podcasting now. Yeah.
Right. They're on YouTube.
They're now acting like influencers. And I think that's counterculture to sports.
But hell, it is a big business. I think in certain leagues, it's probably easier to get away with doing stuff like that than it is in the NFL sometimes because your roster is so big.
And it has football more so than other sports, I think, has the mentality of like either fit in or fit out, you know, like get out if you're not going to be part of the team, if you're not going to submit yourself for the good of the rest of the team. Unless, of course, you're extremely, extremely talented like Antonio Brown is.
And he's gotten away with being able to do a lot of that stuff over the years and be an entertainer and have the spotlight on him because he's top three, top four receiver in the league. Right now, since it the at the end of his career do you see any team taking a chance and and bringing him in next year yeah I know he wants to play you know that was a question that I asked on the show Monday um you know do you do you do you want to play do you want to continue you say absolutely you know and I just you know I was one of the things I was trying to get across to him was, you know.

If we're going to play ball, because you're right, you know, if you're going to play ball, you have to you have to learn how to operate within the constructs of that team, that system.

And so for me, it's hard. You know, I think he has a 10 percent chance.

And I love and I love Antonio because we, you know, we we share a locker room, meaning that fraternity, the NFL. And guys aren't perfect.
But at the end of the day, he put himself in this situation. And I would say a 10% chance.
Look at the market for him last offseason. The Bucs could have used him on Sundayay well yeah well i'm talking about well just yeah of course what do you think about him like kind of that that post he had after the game where he's i mean if you're a bucks player right and you put up with some of the things that come with antonio brown because whatever you think he he definitely causes a media stir right and then you see him kind of clowning you after you just lost a heartbreaking game.
That kind of sucks, right? You're talking about brotherhood and these guys in the locker room. I thought that was kind of bullshit.
Well, I mean, look, there's almost 100 people in that locker room, right? You got players. You got coaches.
You have support staff. Some guys will laugh at it if we're being honest.
Some guys will be like, oh, that's just him trolling. And then some guys may hold on to that and never talk to him again.
Yeah. Because you're right.
That is. It's like, damn, bro, you were just with us a couple weeks ago.
We're all in this together. So, yeah, I think you'll get a mixed bag.
Yeah. I mean, it's a good point how many different people are in an NFL locker room and different walks of life.
What was the best locker room you were in, team-wise? Yeah, the Chicago Bears, my first year. I was going to say, not the last year.
Hell no. Yeah.
The first year in Chicago, I was never in a locker room like that. I never was on a team where I looked to the sideline and said I didn't want to let those guys down.
There were so many times Jay and I in our offense would go three and out, and Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher, Peanut Tillman, Charles Peanut Tillman, Julius Pepper, Izzy, and so many others would literally meet us halfway there and still shake our hands saying, get them next time, get them next time, get them next time. You know, every day we played ping pong.
You know, we played so many games. We did so many things off the field, which made the bomb better on the field.
And I think that was one of the reasons we folded the way we did after Lovey was gone because they disrupted that locker room. There was nothing like that.
There was nothing like that. I mean, it was unbelievable with Brandon Roliker and those guys created there in Chicago.
So you were in two spots where that kind of happened, where Lovey gets fired and they bring in Mark Treston. Everyone loved Lovey.
And then you were also in Denver when McDaniels comes in. What – I mean, both guys didn't turn – didn't, like, pan out.
What was the mistake that those two coaches made on their first go-around where it's like they just don't get how to manage this, like the entire thing josh mcdaniel's uh brilliant from x's and o's there's no one better you're going to be prepared you're going to know what's going to happen before it happens uh excellent there i think josh's biggest downfall during that time that era um was his people skills his leadership skills right um that was the. Coach Trestman, I just think that he didn't have a chance because, you know, Lovey leaves in that locker room that I talked about, and he started doing things a little differently, opened up the locker room.
He wanted to create that, you know, we're all in this together, you know, like that Google, Facebook type of work environment, which a lot of coaches are adopting that now. he was i would say he was early it's just ahead of his time yeah and then like you know coach trustman and i talk all the time and we had this conversation on his podcast you know a couple of months ago podcast yes but it's more business and leadership got it he's a professor at uh university of miami he's doing some amazing things there but i you know we were real.
We had an open conversation. And one of the things I said was, you know, it was probably a little too early to, you know, do the things that he did.
He was trying to do with the locker room. And you had guys that weren't buying in on the defensive side, which made it extremely hard.
I also, I've kind of changed my thought process on the Bears and the NFL in totality that, like, coaches can fail, but it's really the organization fails them. I'm now starting to realize, like, the Bears are screwed no matter what.
Do you know what I mean? Like, I almost feel bad for Treston at this point. I was mean to him then.
Right. But, like, I look back and I'm like, it's just a clusterfuck on top of top of him so he like there was never a structure that was put in place to have him succeed well i mean at the end of the day yes i mean are there's so much to that yeah i do think that the mccaskies you know they're so passionate and they're like football royalty but they're so stuck in the 1950s yes yeah and they.
And they got to get with the times. Yes.
And there's a couple organizations like that. I talk about the Giants that way as well.
I love that organization. And, you know, a lot of people can study, like, some of the ways they move, but now it's time to progress and move forward.
So the McCaskies are one of those organizations. I mean, the Bears is definitely one of those organizations.
It's like, all right, it's time to get it. You have to kind of shrink your ego if you're one of the older families that's owned a team for forever.
Because when you were coming up, when you were in your younger years, business was done a certain way. Maybe you had a little success then.
But you have to admit that you don't know shit about football anymore and that you need to let somebody else that's a little bit younger and has a fresh fresh perspective come in i think a lot of times very rich very successful people have a hard time doing that just like admitting that they're not they don't have what it takes anymore and letting somebody else help them for me the mccaskies the mccaskies is less about the football stuff because they they let the football guys do their football thing right um it's more so like we're talking about socks here. You know, like, oh, this is how we wore socks for 50 years.
Well, hell, you got these young guys that want to dress the way they want to dress. They want to listen to the music they want to listen to in the locker room, and they're just trying to put people in boxes.
So I just use that as an example. I know it's like my new and it's really nothing but it's literally a lot of little things that makes it uncomfortable for guys to go there and it's it's i mean we joke because it's it's cliche but culture matters like culture uh i'm sure you can talk about it but like culture in different you've on a different teams, different locker rooms, like culture matters a lot when it comes to playing football and playing that full season.
Right. Have you been in Mr.
CC's on the corner down here? No. Where's that? I just made it up.
Okay. That's like Mr.
CC's is like a little mom and pop little pizza place, right? Yeah. That's it.
And that's how are like phenomenal phenomenal like when you talk about culture the culture is good as far as like you go in there nice people they're amazing you know you know them hell they might be on the elliptical next to you working out mr mccaskey george mccaskey he parks all the way in the back and you ask him why you parking it back he's because i want everybody else to park get the first amazing people you know but now we're talking about a 16 billion dollar industry you gotta you gotta bring in some people that really know what they're doing yes it is you're right i've said many times the mom and pop like they that the the bears is all they know right it's the family business yeah it's not like a lot of other ownership groups where it's like they made a lot of money then they bought a team right and it's almost like a toy to them yeah this is it but yeah that was very awkward if you had been like yeah i dig yeah i've been to cc's mr cc's right down the street we made up yeah yeah uh it sounds very familiar it does i could see there being i thought for a second there was one yeah there's that i'm gonna google it before we transition what's the inspiration behind this set? We're just messy slobs We get our weight up Do you still work out? I do House of Athletes, shameless plug We decided that we would get a squat rack put in here So we could work out in between podcasts Guess how that went Not well at. Yeah, no, it's kind of a shit show in here.
We understand that. We also, we like to keep it a little bit messy in here because it really downplays the expectations from any guests that we have coming in.
Like, as long as we don't completely screw up the interview, then they'll be like, all right, at least I got out of that messy room alive. Yes, unbelievable.
In your transition to being a, i wish i call you a podcaster a show host just a an entertainment mogul yeah is there anything like what has been the hardest part of that transition coming out of the nfl and you know changing and making your entire career in front of a microphone in front of a camera yeah actually bonnie sitting next to me our chief of Steph our chief of staff, we were just talking about this. In March, we're going to have a hand – we're going to have like this – we're going to be a part of a business combine where a lot of NFL guys are going to come in and, you know, to get to learn business.
Caleb Dornhill is putting something amazing together for these guys. And, you know, it was like, all right, they're going to spend four days with us and just shadowing.
It's like, all right, one of the things that we got to hit is that transition and putting in a routine, right? Like when I was six years old, nah, once I got to middle school, there was a itinerary. There was agenda set for me until I retired.
Even in the off season, I knew what I was going to do. I think the hardest thing for me in the two and a half years I've been out is setting that agenda.
Like when the hell am I going to, when am I going to podcast? Right. When am I going to develop another show? When am I going to check my emails? When am I going to meet with my team? Right.
Like we have almost a hundred, you know, partners and employees. Right.
So it's like learning that cycle is, critical.'s what got us to that to that pinnacle the pinnacle of the of football you know and is that routine and now you got to put in another routine I mean that's the thing that makes you successful is being able to put a plan in place and do it consistently yeah consistency I'd say is like one thing that was because we we talked to a lot a lot of athletes that are making their transition from their post-playing career and they want to get involved in the podcasting game. They start up a new podcast and then they'll do it like they'll say, we're going to do this a few times a month.
They put it out one week, they take two weeks off, come back out of nowhere, there's another episode. If they commit to a schedule that's like, we're going to release every week, or if you're going to do it every month, just say, we're going to do it every month and let people know when to expect it.
That's a huge key that I think a lot of these guys are missing out on. It's just let your audience know when to expect content from you.
Yeah, well, you got to understand, athletes, you know, we're used to putting up content um action shot and it gets thousands of of of likes and you know a video you get thousands of views maybe millions right so we're used to that and then when you make that transition and you go into entertainment or podcasting and now you get 10 20 people, when we started our podcast, I Am Athlete, like, the first season, we had 84 people in the waiting room watching, people watching live. Now we're getting up to, like, 22,000, 25,000 at times watching live.
Right. Right? So it was hard.
My New York barber's the one that told me to keep going. I called him one time.
I was like, man, I'm done with this shit. It was like 84 people watching right now You know you gotta think about that And he was like that's good for you I was like what are you talking about I'm glad you're being humbled right now You're so used to millions of people watching You need to be consistent You need to stick to it I was like damn you're right And sure enough the last show we broke through We hit 500,000 views in like a couple days like oh and we just kept going in season two we just kept going we kept going and consistency is critical yeah no it's absolutely true like being there for your audience time in and time out and that's jose by the way jose is my new jersey shout out jose i'm gonna get back to brandon marshall in a second uh but before we do ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariot ariot work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver check out ariot in your local workwear retailer or visit ari.com slash work to get 10% off your first order when you sign up for email.
And weather whatever in Ariat work gear. I assume you watched the games yesterday, so we're taping this on Monday after an insane divisional round.
Who do you think, like, just watching them, Mahomes, Allen, maybe throwing Burrow in there, Like, rank the young quarterbacks right now in the game because it's crazy how – Jimmy G. Jimmy G.
You're right. Jimmy G.
He wins. The guy wins football games.
But, like, it's nuts to watch these guys and be like, hey, I think we're – it's cliche to say, like, oh, we're in good hands. But, like, this is awesome that we're going to maybe have Mahomes versus Allen every year for the next decade.
Yeah, you heard Tony Romo and you heard guys on Monday, you know, talking about, oh, this was the Allen and Mahomes duel, you know, that back and forth. It was the greatest display of quarterbacking we've ever seen, right? And they're right.
You know, it's so true. If I had to rank these guys Patrick Mahomes number one easy easy it's not even it's not even a debate Patrick Mahomes you know Josh Allen even if he had won that game it would have you know he would have started the conversation but I mean you got to go win a Super Bowl and you got to go do what he's done consistently year after year after year.
So he's number one for me.

I'm a huge Josh Allen fan.

I've been saying it for two years.

I mean, you got to think about where he comes from.

The kid didn't even have a chance in college, and look who he was throwing to in the competition.

For him to be able to link up with Brian Dayball

and do what he's done the last two years is remarkable.

I like Joe Burrow, Smoking Joe. I mean, did we not know he was going to be great when he won the national championship and he had a stogie in his mouth after? Yeah, he's got the quarterback swagger where you look at him and you're like, okay, I think his whole team just loves him.
Right. They all just are like, we're going to ride with this guy.
You know what? I said this yesterday, and I hate because I know you're friends. You're like best, best friends with Jay.
Well, no, you're friends with him, too. Yeah, well, it's like, what is it? Like, when it's, like, a sabbatical.
We're on a sabbatical. Yeah, yeah, he's taking a break.
Taking a break. Seeing other people.
You know, I was watching Joe Burrow's interview yesterday. You know, just his personality and also, like, his confidence slash cockiness.
And I was like, that's what Jay was supposed to be. No, he was at times.
Well, Jay, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, Joe Burrow, really, he's a savage. No, he is a savage.
He's crazy. I think the problem with Jay was sometimes after a bad loss or a bad string of losses, he still had that personality.
And he still put that out there where he was like, I'm cool, I'm Jay. It's one thing to do that if you're coming off a nice run like Joe Burrow's on or you just won a national championship.
You can ooze all that swagger and be like, okay, I'm the man right now, so I'm going to act a little bit like I'm the man. But if you do that enough after losing seasons, people are – it gets tiresome a little bit.
Do you know what the comparison, though, that does work between Joe Burrow and Jay is their toughness? Like Jay was – Jay never got the credit that he deserved for his toughness, and I think Joe Burrow is the type of guy where it's like he got sacked nine times and he just, like, keeps getting back up, keeps making plays. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Jay was super tough and super competitor. Yeah, it was phenomenal seeing Jay get hit and then bounce back up, don't say anything.
You don't know if the guy's going to make it to practice on Wednesday and Thursday and he's out there. And then the circumstances.
You look at that year with Mike Marks in Chicago. Probably hit the most ever.
You know, it was brutal.

Seven-step drops.

Yeah.

Nine-step drops.

But the NFL is in great hands right now.

You know, even you have the young gun out there,

Justin Herbert as well.

You can throw in there.

It'd be exciting to see what he does next year.

Lamar Jackson.

Hey, we kind of forgot Lamar.

Kyler Murray.

Yeah.

Do you think Kyler Murray might be too short? No. He blocked me on Twitter, so I don't care what I'm saying.
No, I mean, he made it to the NFL. He's balling.
He threw for over, what, 3,000 to 4,000 yards? Yeah, no, he's really, really good. I think he just needs every now and then his new coach.
I don't think that Cliff is the guy to take him to the next level. I think that Cliff has proved time and time again that he's actually not that great of a head coach.
He can do some exciting things early on in the season, but once there's a little bit of tape out of what they're doing that year, teams just catch up to him. How much does that suck when, like, don't name names.
You don't have to blast anyone. I like naming names.
Okay. I'm real.
I'm real. I just like.
Okay, yeah, you can name names.

At people, you can at me.

Let's have real conversations.

Could you tell the difference in like your coaches and offensive coordinators and coaching staffs,

like the guys who are putting you in a great position to succeed and then the guys you're like,

they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Yeah, 100%.

We talked about a guy earlier, Josh McDaniels.

Never been more prepared in my life. Really? You know, talked about a guy earlier, Josh McDaniels.
Never been more prepared in my life.

Really?

You know, for a game.

Yeah, Josh McDaniels was excellent, right?

So you absolutely get it and you understand.

Like even this past weekend, everyone said, oh, one of the greatest weekends of football ever.

And if you just narrow it down to like one thing, what was the one thing that made this great?

It was situational football. That's what it was two minute offense two minute defense four minute offense can we run a clock are we going to stay in bounds what about special teams yes backers yes situational football some of these plays the kansas city chiefs the the little the little drop off to uh tyreek hill and he had two go block, and then he scooted up the field, then he got down.
Those are things that you work on in camp. You implement that in camp, and then you just work on it maybe once a week.
You just touch it. And then all of a sudden, when you need it, it's there.
But can you execute? Guys like Josh McDaniels, those are things that they do it better else, right? So you're always prepared. And then you go on some other teams like, shit, you go ask the coach, well, you know, third – you know, this fourth quarter, we enter in the fringe area, two-minute drive, all right, you know, game's on the line, we're down by three, right? What defense are they going to call? And give me the percentage.
Josh McDaniels is going to look at you and he's going to say, oh, yeah, you entered in the fringe, fourth quarter, game's on the line, down by three, right? What defense are they going to call? And give me the percentage. Josh McDaniels is going to look at you and he's going to say, oh yeah, you entered in the fringe, fourth quarter, game's on the line, down by three.
Yeah, it's probably going to be 50% chance. 50% of the time, this defensive coordinator is going to go cover zero.
So here's our answer to that. And then it must feel like a superpower when you see it on the field after you learned it all week 100 yeah you're you're ready i mean and some coaches be like hey this is what i think they're going to do and you know be prepared for this josh mcdaniels and i would you know i would assume that it's like that in new england as well with bill belichick it's like they come in and they say this is what's going to happen they say, this is what's going to happen.
Hey, jackasses, this is what's going to happen. You know, it's no, don't even think about it.
Just do this. Do your job.
This is what's going to happen. I think you like Josh McDaniels because he threw you the ball 21 times in a game one time.
That's what I think. I remember that game.
It's Kyle Horton. Yeah.
Holy shit. Like, do you ever look back at it? Well, let me ask you this.
In the moment, when you make 21 catches in a game, you start game planning for the next week, and you're like, if I get anything less than 20 catches, it's a complete failure. Like, did that reset your expectations of what that offense was going to look like? No, that was an anomaly, and I knew it.
Before the game, I went up to Michael Smith, used to be on ESPN, and I had my little headphones on. I said, bro, I'm telling you this because I want you to report on it later.
I said, this is going to be the best game I've ever played in my life. Right? So I just felt it.
I was like crescendoing all week. And ask Jay about it.
Crescendoing. I was crescendoing all week, and I was just speaking into existence.
Like, yeah. So you were just telling Kyle Orton, you were like, hey, you're going to throw me the ball 30 times.
No, I was just like, I didn't know how it was going to look. I didn't know if it was going to be 20 catches.
I didn't know if it was going to be 250 receiving yards. I didn't know if it was going to be five touchdowns.
I had no clue. I just felt really good.
But Jay-Z just dropped an album, and I'm a big Jay-Z fan. And so all week I was just like, everything he does is, like, effortless.
Right? And so I was just like, that's all I was listening to. That's all I was channeling.
And so, you know, if you go back and watch that game, after every catch, I would just get up and I would go back to the huddle.

And what I was showing was this is what I do. This is easy to me.
So I wasn't talking trash. I wasn't celebrating.
I was just getting up, handing the ball back to the ref. Talking about playing the wide receiver position, I love to talk to athletes and ask just a simple question.
What is the one part of the job of being a wide receiver that fans don't pick up on?

That the common fan, us idiots sitting on the couch, like, how can you not do that?

It's like, no, no, that's not how it works.

Right.

What is that one thing?

That's a hard question.

What's the one thing? Like, you know, whether it be like route running or whatever it may be, like the one thing that people don't – the misconception about being a wide receiver that you don't really understand. Right.
I don't know. I'm always shocked.
Like, I throw one out there. Like, body control and the ability to get, like, feet down is so incredible.
Like, we see it, and it's routine in our eyes, but you don't understand the muscles that go into that right just like blows your mind right yeah I think like um yeah Travis Kelsey this weekend you know that back shoulder game winning was it the game yes yeah it was the game winner right it's he ran a out and then up and then he had the back shoulder there but you know little like that, that play doesn't work if he's actually running that route, anticipating or running it for the back shoulder. You have to run it to win, like as if it's going to be over top.
Right. So you run it that way and you let the quarterback throw there, throw the ball there.
And then you got to be you got to put your body. It's like opening up your hips, open up your hips.
You you got to open up your hips so you can turn around and make that catch that's hard for a lot of guys to do you would think that oh that's just a wide receiver that's just a uh you know a hall of fame tight end you know yeah that's what he's supposed to do and any guy's supposed to do that no uh-uh that's why you only see a handful of guys able to do that in today's game you got odell beckham jr you see You see what him and Matthew Stafford been able to do over the last six seven games whatever it's been so I think understanding route running understanding you know just the nuances but you know in route running and understanding coverage because there's so much that goes into it because that route changes also if it's not man to man if it's zone what do

you do so there's a lot that you have to think through and work through within you know a second quarterback all right we can go i right z zane we're gonna go you know z pop x prick on two on two ready break then you go out there now you got to see what is my linebacker what is is the safety? What is the corner doing? All right. Now, okay, it's on one.
Oh, now I got to go in motion. Oh, shit.
The safety came down, so now that changes. Oh, the safety went back.
What am I doing? Right. So it's a lot in your head.
And you're right. That Travis Kelsey touchdown looked like routine.
Yeah. It looked easy because that's what they make it look like.
Right. Like, we watched that game.
We're like, that's just easy. That's Travis Kelsey.
What about when you jump into the air to make a catch and you've got to get two feet down? That to me is sometimes the most amazing thing that receivers are able to do nowadays. They're just able to let their entire body kind of go limp as they're twisting in the air.
Just focus on getting the toes down. Is it something that you think about? After you secure the ball in the air, does your brain actually tell you, okay, now it's time to get the feet down or is it something that you think about like after you secure the ball in the air does your brain actually tell you like okay now it's time to get the feet down or is it something that you've worked on so much that it's almost like an instinct at that point yeah it's hard man that question's come up a couple times over the last month um I don't know I never thought of the only time I ever thought about it was in college in college i didn't i never understood why college receivers would only you know okay the rule is get one foot in and they would just focus on getting one foot right for two yeah for me it was like i'm going to the nfl yep i'm working on that shit today you know what i'm saying so i never understood it you know why college dudes did that no, like, let's play NFL ball right now.
And so like, that's the only time I never came up. Yeah, you work on it.
There's drills that you do. But I think, you know, the the Odell, you just have a feel.
You know, that's the best way I can describe it. There's some guys don't have a feel, you know, and it's guys that can do that.
Guys also understand like, okay, I got this end cut. It's quarters.
This guy's driving down on me. You can feel everything around you.
It's, I don't know. It's just like, it's almost like an innate ability.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hank's a big believer of if you can touch it, you can catch it. Is that true? Yeah.
Good question. It's kind of i hate that it's terrible sorry hank but it's true yeah yeah like because when you say i have a football here oh yeah right now there's a small one underneath you yeah it's like when you say touch it because like the last time oh you touched it that's a drop right like what happens if it just if it just touched the two fingers yeah you should have caught it that's what yeah so hank this is you want where's hank hank you want me to catch this hank yes yeah i'm gonna pull up the play actually there was do you remember the washington football team giants game daniel jones had an overthrow uh i said it was a bad throw and everyone was like the receiver touched it he should catch it get it up and i got absolutely dunked on and i was i was saying what you're saying it was a bad throw it was an overthrow just because he touches it doesn't mean you can catch it.
And now, because I got dunked on so hard, I have to just remind people of how bad I got dunked on that. If you can touch it, you can catch it.
Anytime it barely grazes a wide receiver's fingers, Hank will be like, well, I thought it was if you touch it, you can catch it. He's on your side, actually.
Okay, good. He is.
He thought it was, yeah, we need to see this play. I want your reaction.
And then also there's – and this is something, right, that some people may not see, but a lot of times there may be some trash balls, right? And a wide receiver will put himself in position to actually give himself an opportunity to make a play, right? But then he drops it, and it's like, oh, it hit his hand. It's like, no, you don't understand what it took for him to actually flip his hips.
He's 60 yards down the field. The ball was supposed to be thrown over his right shoulder.
It was thrown outside over his left shoulder. He flipped around, tracked the ball down, and tried to keep his feet in bounds.
You know what I'm saying? Also, the ball got lost in lights as well because there's a blind –

there's a lot of – most stadiums, there's a blind spot, right?

These huge lights there.

And so those are things that people don't see.

It's like, oh, he just dropped the ball.

It's like, man, that was impressive for that dude just to get his –

just to even get his hands on the ball.

Yeah, you got it.

All right, this is good.

We're going to get the official judgment of was this a bad pass or should he have caught it? Okay. Danny Dimes drops it.
Boom. It's for all the marbles for Hank here.
Hold on. So what did you say? Overthrow.
You said overthrow? He said bad pass. Uh-oh.
Uh-oh. Could he have caught that? Does he get paid millions of dollars to make that catch? Could he have caught that? Oh, yes.
He's about to catch that. What are you talking about? Even this one.
You can touch it. You can catch it.
Yeah, even that one a lot of times, too. Even this, right? And this one separates the good from the great.
Even if the ball was – That's an overthrow. Say if it was another yard out in front of him.
Can dive. That's when you know one hand.
Extend. Because now you can – I can extend more if I do this,

if I open up my shoulders right here.

I'm short.

So that's why you see a lot of guys like, why did he throw out one hand?

Well, because he's – that's what I meant.

He's getting to the ball.

No, he absolutely – that should have been like – yeah.

Come on, man.

Damn, Hank.

Come on.

You lose Hank.

Watch football for me one time, Hank. Fair enough.
Now pull up the Antonio Brown drop. That's why Hank is the producer.
Hank is one of the producers on this show. Yeah, go ahead.
I saw that you played a game with our friend, Frank Gore, when he was on your podcast where you asked him to name players that maybe he had played in the league with, maybe he hadn't. I got a question for you kind of along similar lines.

Can you name every quarterback that you played with

that you cut a touchdown pass from?

Absolutely not.

I think I played with like 18 quarterbacks.

I looked up.

You got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 quarterbacks that you cut a touchdown from.

All right, let's go.

Jay Cutler.

Kyle Orton. Fitz.
Chris Sims. Okay.
Henny. Matt Moore.
And I got one more. I think you might have named a couple guys that you didn't catch a touchdown pass.
Oh, no. No, who? I don't think that you caught a touchdown pass from Chris Sims.
I did. Washington.
You missed out. Two touchdowns.
Whoa. Yep.
California went down. Two bombs.
I go by profootballreference.com. Did you catch one? For sure.
Did that one stupid game that Trestman tried to save his job and have Jimmy Clawson start in like week 15? How did that catch. I don't even know if I played.
Yeah, you might not have. That was an all-time moment.
Yeah. I was like, what are we doing here? Let me go back here.
What are we doing? Yeah, wait. When did you catch a pass from Chris Sims? So that was Josh McDaniel's year.
That was 2010. Wait, did you say Josh McCown? Josh McDaniels.
Yeah, but did you catch one from Josh McCown? Absolutely, in Green Bay In Green Bay Yes It was a nice back shoulder on the left side We were getting smashed 50-something to three Josh McCown was, I mean, I love Josh Yeah, I caught a couple of touchdowns from Josh McCown Yeah You also had, it says Kyle Orton, Jake Cutler, and Jake Plummer Are the three quarterbacks that you caught touchdown passes from in Denver. Okay.
I don't remember Jake Plummer, but I was going to go back to Jake. What about Jason Campbell, that game that we got killed by the Niners on Monday Night Football? Was that? No, we got killed.
Oh, that was one of my favorite games that you've ever played. Monday Night Football, Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall in San Francisco.
Oh, yeah. Remember that? Three touchdowns.
Three touchdowns, second half, comeback. Well, I was.
Opened the stadium. I was high.
Actually high? Yeah, like two, three tour dolls. Oh.
Painkillers. I wasn't supposed to play that game.
I was supposed to be out six weeks. The game before, high ankle sprain.
And I just asked Phil Emery and coaches, like, yo, just get me to, you know,

pregame to show that I can play.

So it was only three catches, three touchdowns.

Yeah.

And it was the comeback.

I got to look it up.

It was they opened the stadium.

It was the first game in the stadium.

100%. 100%.

I had three catches, three touchdowns.

Yeah.

Monday Night Football.

That was one of my favorite games that you had. Yep.
What's the last question? Looking back at your career, you've been out for a couple years now. Oh, yeah, that was fourth quarter, 21 points.
I'm looking back at the box score right now. You had five catches, 48 yards, three touchdowns.
Five catches? You were so high you don't even remember how many catches you had. I know.
I always said it. But it were big-ass touchdowns.
Yeah. I shouldn't have done that just to play a football game.
You had two touchdowns. But I was obsessed.
Two touchdown catches in the fourth quarter. Looking back on your career, what's the one thing you're like, regret or like, man, I should have done that differently? Is there anything that sticks out that you're like, shit, that could have gone better?

Yeah, I mean that. Like football is big business.
And I think as players, a lot of our players, where we come from, it's not business, it's personal. Like, how do I separate the personal and the business when football is the reason why my mom eats?

Or my... is personal like how do I separate the how do I separate the personal in a business when football is the reason why my mom eats or my sister you know has a roof over her head right and that's the reality is like the things that drove me every single day whether it was 5 a.m mat drills or even that that navigated me in the streets where it's like yo you can go this way but you might be able might throw your career away and you ain't going to be able to take care of your family.
Like how do I separate, you know, that football, the business around it, and the personal because it saved my life. It saved, you know, the people around me, their lives, right, like literally.
And it's hard. So in those moments, whether it's on the sideline, you know, it's hard to when a coach, like whether it's Bruce Arians, you know, with AB saying get the fuck out of here and saying you're done, do the throat slashing thing.
Like now you go, is this personal? Who are you talking to? So I wish back then, I wouldn't even say I wish. I mean, and it's not even a regret because i understand it right like a lot of people may not understand it you know but it is just who i am you know and you know the good the bad the ugly and you know i had to survive and i had to thrive and when you come from a place like that you know those are the skills that you have so Like I'm a product of my environment um so you know the one thing i look back on my career is like damn that there was some tough moments or when i lost control you know and and i let the emotions my emotions get the best of me right and that's some that's one of the things that i wanted to you know sit down and share with antonio brown was that is like i get it I understand it no one understands it more but you got to understand like now you're not in control of the moment because now we're just talking about you is something wrong is CTE mental health etc etc right um so I think when I look back you know the emotions got the best of me sometimes the first half of my career.
I mean, it's a good big picture lesson.

You could also just say don't wear pajama pants when you're going to get videotaped once in the ball.

Oh, bro.

That was an all-time.

That was my thing.

Yeah, it was.

That was my thing.

I used to wear pajama pants.

I know.

That clip when you were – that was the end of Denver, right?

That's how I used to warm up in pajama pants.

Yeah, yeah.

In the end of Denver.

The Josh McDaniels days were weird times in Denver. Very weird times.
But that started before Josh McDaniels. Right? Pajama pants.
Oh, no, I'm saying how everything kind of fell apart there. So you played for Mike Shanahan.
Actually, Tony Scheffler told us that he had a tanning bed inside his house. And when he would throw parties, because he'd throw an annual party for all the players to go to, he would show off.
He'd take people on the tour and be like, yeah, this is my tanning bed in my house. Did you ever see the tanning bed? Absolutely.
Absolutely. I mean, it was like a 16,000 square foot home.
It was some of the best parties. I ran to Coach Shanahan a couple months ago in Denver, and I was like, Coach, you got to do that party again.
Legendary. People loved him.
Legendary. It feels like anyone who played for him is like he was the best.
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No, I said Fitzy.

Oh, I did.

Russ Wilson.

Was that weird at the end of your career?

I forgot.

There are certain guys that finish their careers on teams

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And picturing you in a Seahawks uniform, I feel like-

It was like awkward.

Yeah, you look at it and you're like,

this doesn't look right.

Yeah, right.

Exactly, yes.

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We got FAQs. Henry.
I always wondered and hoped that he was talking to us, but when PFT says love you guys, is he talking to the fans or the group? He's looking directly in our eye. He actually, if you watch on the YouTube, which we had a pre-show today, which was very hilarious, go subscribe and like.
He takes off his glasses just a little bit, locks eyes with every single one of us, and says love you guys. Yeah, no, the real answer is I'll never tell.
That's for me to know and for you to find out. Well, some of you aren't loved, and you should talk to a therapist about it.
Yeah, it says more about you that you're asking that question. It seems like you're insecure.
Needy much? That I haven't been saying it to you. Not an FAQ, but a lot of Qs.
My buddy is in charge of sports for our local YMCA. They're short coaches, so he wants me to volunteer.
It's 11 under co-ed. I'm 100% committed to building a dynasty.
Now I need to know answers to the following. What offense should I run? Do I let everyone play? Do I wear a suit or sweats? And how much conditioning do I make them do? I think you got to go sweats.

Co-ed?

What?

Yeah, that's kind of weird.

Go full jumpsuit.

Wait, did he say CYO?

What sport are we talking about?

Basketball?

Basketball.

I would say maybe just chill out.

They'll probably remember you more if you're just cool and try to teach them something

than build a dynasty.

How old are these?

11. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That's right on the age.
You don't want to be too much of a hard-o. Yeah, I would just make sure they all get to play.
No, you don't have to do that. 11, I think, is right around the age.
Locate your best player and just feed them the raw. Yeah, 11 is right when you can be like, all right, you can play a little bit, but not all the time.
But, yeah, don't be a dick. This guy sounds like he might go too hard.
Just practice strictly buzzer beaters, and no matter what the game is, if they just hit buzzer beaters, it's going to be electric no matter what. That would be funny if you just only shoot from half court.
And the Kings will hire you or something. Or if your team just straight up does a verbal countdown every time you have the ball and it goes like three, two, one.
So every shot you get to practice hitting at the buzzer. Also try doing the get on all fours and bark like a dog play.
One team does that. As far as the internet has told me, that play has never failed.
This is actually serious. If you really want to be a dynasty and don't be a dick about it and run them too hard, them all uh how to shoot skyhooks you can't guard it you would not be able to guard it skyhooks for everyone like imagine if you just run an offense where you just feed the post and skyhook over everyone it'd be awesome so on offense run the skyhook offense on defense just play zone yeah and kids will not know what to do with the zone it's very simple do the now jake is it is it a one three one zone because there's been a lot of people that have been arguing over this my mentions over the last couple years i think you can go two three with 11 year olds yeah but what is it what is the syracuse zone technically three zone yeah it's a two three zone because people are like it's a really a one three one zone or you go or you can fuck them up change it a little bit.
The best is running a box in one. Just have your best defender on their best player.
You don't know if you're man or... I think you need to bring back the memes for this home stretch.
I will. The triangle and two, if it's a really good player.
But yeah, just play zone defense and no one will know what to do with it. Favorite place you've ever lived for each of you? I mean, it's Madison because of college.
Manhattan, New York. Yeah.
I mean, college was very fun. I hope people had fun at college.
I didn't go to college. My college experience was on a bus.
Well, I went to college for a year. Was it fun? Yeah.
So there you go. It wasn't my favorite place I lived, though i agree i like i like harrisonburg it's a lovely town when it doesn't smell go to go to a fun college um that's what i would say i would say austin austin is a great city it might not be that cool anymore i don't know i've heard rumors that maybe it's not uh but no austin was great in the in the late 2000s.
Speaking of Brooks, when is the Brooks vs. Dave golf outing happening? Next question.
Never. It's never.
I don't think we ever really followed up on the show, but there's beef. Yeah, he did it with Bryson, and he got injured and couldn't do it with Dave, and then they said they were going to reschedule, and Dave, I think, yeah.
So that's beef. That's beef.
That's real beef, I believe. The answer is never.
Yeah. What's up, fellas? What's the best dish slash food to serve? We should play Brooks.
Scramble, us four. Yeah.
Which four? I'm in. Who's the fourth? Well, Jake's a good golfer, right? Well, Hank, you and Bubba aren't content.
True. That's true.
You're out. I'm very confused.
But we should do that. I don't know where I stand on that.
Jake, are you good? I'm all right. Here's what we do.
It's me, Big Cat, Jake, and Hank, and Billy's all of our caddies. So he carries four bags at once.
And we get to throw the ball once a hole. That would be sick.
Off the green, yeah. No, anywhere.
We can putt. We can hand putt.
Yeah, I mean, I think we probably want to use it for our short game. One throw a game.
Yeah, if we're like, you know, 40 yards away, I think that's a throw. The old hand wedge.
Yeah. I had the best round of my life with the new Larry the Goldfish part of my take, head covers over Thanksgiving.
Alright, so we're're going to kick the shit out of Brooks. Those are unreal head covers.
All right, Brooks, if you're listening, the gauntlet has been thrown down. Who wins? Scramble of us and Max versus Brooks.
Brooks, easily. Yeah, probably.
Basically the same thing. All right, we'll go with this last one.
Does Max get to throw one ball per hole? Because I'd say he'd help. Help his game.
I think it would help, yeah. Would you rather be the guy in your favorite sports moment, but that's all you have for your career? So it's only one play, but it's legendary, like the Butler pick in Super Bowl or Stefan Matto's goal in Rangers Stanley Cup.
Don't know who that is. Or get paid a crazy amount of money, whatever's considered a crazy amount of money to you.
Easy. Get paid a crazy amount of money.
It's not even close because if I'm the guy in my memory, then that memory, I still have the memory if I'm rich. You're Malcolm Butler? Yeah, but you are Malcolm Butler.
Yeah, but you, Hank, imagine. What's your favorite sports memory? I think it would get annoying after a while.
Like, to have everyone be like, remember that time that you did it? And it's like, yeah, I did other things. Like, no, no, no, you have that one play.
Making a lot of money would be cool, too. Yeah, I don't know.
It's also a tough question to answer. Like, Joe Carter walk off home.
But Joe Carter was like an incredible baseball player. But the question is the favorite sportsman, but that's all you have for your career.
So it's like Joe Carter. I'd be Michael Jordan.
No, but like Michael Jordan, like what's the defining moment of his career? If it wouldn't be Michael Jordan, you would be Big Cat on that Bulls team making that one shot that Michael Jordan. So you don't get his entire career.
See, I still think that if you could pick the amount of money. I would be Randy Johnson.
I would have killed a bird. Some things are bigger than money.
I'd be Tiger Woods in a Perkins. It's for the love of the game, Big Cat.
I'm just saying, I think it would be annoying. I think it would be awesome to be that guy, but I think it would eventually get annoying to be the guy that's only remembered for one thing and always having to talk about that one thing.
Plus, I enjoy all of my sports memories that I have. That's what makes them so great.
If I was just way, way, way richer and I'd still have those sports memories, I would take that easily over me having done one thing in one game one time. I would just buy my favorite teams too.
Good point. It's the fact that there's no cap to the money makes it easy.
If you said $10 million and it's like, okay, now this is a real debate, but if it's like you can have $10 billion and you can buy whatever team you want, that'd be sick. No cap.
No cap. All right, numbers.
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Julian Edelman on Friday.

44. Conference championship preview.

Someone told me I was being problematic for keeping choosing 88.

22.

31, 84, and 26.

26.

6-9.

22.

49.

Good football number. I wish we had a guy around here who could tell us Good football number.

I wish we had a guy around here who could tell us about football numbers.

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Numbergami.

Borgami.

Love you guys.

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