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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, January 12th.

Speaker 1 Who's that coming down the track? You're supposed to do call and response.

Speaker 1 No, you say you say it back.

Speaker 1 Who's that coming down the track? It's a mean machine in red and black. It's a mean machine in red and black.
Ain't nothing finer in the land.

Speaker 3 Ain't nothing finer in the land.

Speaker 1 Then a drunk, obnoxious Georgia fan. Then a drunk, obnoxious Georgia fan.

Speaker 1 Calling all the dogs, baby. I love that chant just because they basically tell you, I'm going to be drunk and obnoxious in your face.

Speaker 3 And I love Kirby Smart after the game saying, like, we're going to destroy some property in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 That was a callback. I know.

Speaker 3 It was a callback, but it was still an awesome thing to say on a hot mic right after you went in an Addi, right in front of Nick Saban's face. I did,

Speaker 3 I saw like a change in Nick Sabin last night. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you noticed this, but in the post-game handshake with Kirby Smart and even right after the game, I think that there's like a small part of Nick Saban that was kind of relieved that he lost.

Speaker 3 That was like more.

Speaker 1 He's more rat poison.

Speaker 3 He was, yeah, he's happy that he lost because now he's got all sorts of bulletin board material for next year. But he was like, he was chilled out.

Speaker 3 He was smiling more when he was congratulating Kirby Smart than he was if he had won.

Speaker 3 And he's seen Nick Saban collecting that national championship trophy before, and he'll let out like the corner of his mouth. He'll turn up and he'll be like, oh yeah, I got to go get recruiting.

Speaker 3 This sucks. But he was like,

Speaker 3 he looked like a different, like a chilled-out version of Nick Saban after that loss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he's said himself that like he's trying to show more of his personality, be

Speaker 1 happier, and it shows. I mean, he's won it all.
He's the greatest coach of all time. Losing one, it's obviously disappointing for Alabama.
But man, Georgia, what an unbelievable game.

Speaker 1 I love that game so much because

Speaker 1 it had everything. The first three quarters were a complete defensive masterpiece.

Speaker 1 And there's something about, I know that the way football has gone, that we're used to shootouts and, you know, we love that Rams, Chiefs, Monday night football game that everyone points to, but there's something about a game like Monday night's game where every possession felt like life and death.

Speaker 1 Like if you got, if it, when it was nine to six at halftime and you're saying to yourself, the first person to score a touchdown, it feels like an insurmountable lead.

Speaker 1 There was something just so incredible about watching that back and forth. And then in the fourth quarter, you got the shootout.
Like the fourth quarter, we got the crazy plays.

Speaker 1 Insane that, I mean, the touchdown pass from Stetson Bennett to Adoni Mitchell was incredible. Everything.
I love that game so much. It was an awesome, awesome national championship.

Speaker 1 By far the two best teams. And Kirby Smart finally, and the Georgia Bulldogs finally get the monkey off their back and take down Alabama.

Speaker 3 It was also incredible to see Kirby jumping up in the air after that interception to steal the game.

Speaker 3 He probably has like a 30-inch vertical leap, which is, I mean, for a guy that's got a face like Kirby Smart, there's nothing about that guy's cheeks that say, like, I can get more than a foot off the ground.

Speaker 1 But he got, he got air. You know, that's actually like the, obviously, Nick Sabin took to Kirby Smart because he's a very, very good coach.

Speaker 1 But a big part of their relationship is the famous NBA Noon Basketball Association that Nick Sabin runs where he stacks the team so he always wins.

Speaker 1 And they call it the Nick. Basketball Association.
When Kirby Smart was an assistant for Nick Sabin, he immediately was like, oh, this guy's actually pretty good at basketball.

Speaker 1 He's on my team every time.

Speaker 3 And that's what kept him around for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he stayed for, I think he was one of the longest tenured

Speaker 1 assistants under Nick Sabin.

Speaker 3 I think that Kirby Smart, he can probably dunk.

Speaker 3 He can get REM.

Speaker 3 What's Kirby like 6'1? 6'2?

Speaker 1 He might be a little shorter than that. But yeah, I mean, this is also talking, what,

Speaker 1 like 15 years ago when he first

Speaker 1 was a lot younger.

Speaker 3 Did you see him jump last night?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 3 Like, I think he can get Rem. I think Kirby's sneaky athletic.

Speaker 1 It was awesome, though. The game was incredible.
Stetson Bennett might be one of the coolest stories. I don't know if we'll ever see,

Speaker 1 obviously you never say never with sports, but with the way college football is going and the ability for like high-level five-star quarterbacks to transfer easily,

Speaker 1 it will be, I would say this confidently, it will be a long time before we see a walk-on be the starting quarterback for a national champion again.

Speaker 1 That was the first walk-on or former walk-on who beat Nick Nick Sabin since 1997. He was famously, he walked on at Georgia.
He left because Justin Fields got recruited, five-star.

Speaker 1 He went to a junior college. Justin Fields then transferred to Ohio State.
He came back, had a bunch of, you know, people had to get injured in front of him. He's a Georgia fan, grew up a Georgia fan.

Speaker 1 Not like, it was crazy watching him get tossed around at times during the game because it's all these guys that are freak athletes.

Speaker 3 He's 5'11 and like 185 pounds.

Speaker 1 And then little Stetson Bennett is like, this guy does, one of these things is not like the other. And he's out there making big time throws.

Speaker 1 And that moment when that fumble happened, I mean, Georgia fans had to be as low as they've ever been. And that was like, I can't believe we trusted Stetson fucking Bennett.

Speaker 3 It felt like the game when you have a ridiculous. Actually, no, I'll take it back.
There was another play where I was like, Stetson Bennett can't win this game. It was on the flea flicker.

Speaker 3 Where I think he got intentional grounding on a flea flicker. Yes.
And if you get intentional grounding on a flea flicker,

Speaker 3 that's about as bad as it can get.

Speaker 1 It was also the first, the, the, the other Stetson Bennett can't win this game, which we all were proven wrong, I think was either the first or second game or play of the entire game for Georgia when he got sacked for like 15 yards.

Speaker 3 And then I think on the third play, he scrambled for like seven yards and fumbled to himself and bounced up.

Speaker 1 No one's ever started a game more nervous than that.

Speaker 3 There were so many plays where it's like Stetson Bennett is in way over his head.

Speaker 1 And then he made that huge throw.

Speaker 3 But I think if you're Stetson Bennett, at the end of the day, you can just remind yourself, like, my name is Stetson Bennett IV. Yes.

Speaker 3 It is my destiny to be the quarterback of the University of Georgia.

Speaker 1 And he now has everything. Like, I don't know, the mock drafts say maybe fourth round to undrafted.

Speaker 1 I would doubt that he's going to play much in the NFL. Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 He's a king for life. He's got to be Augusta membership for life.
He's got to have at least four car dealerships in Athens.

Speaker 3 He's going to

Speaker 3 start out with an ATV place, like ATV and boat rentals. Yeah.
And then parlay that into becoming the used auto king of the Eastern Seaboard.

Speaker 3 It's such a cool thing for him, especially that he was a Georgia fan when he was a kid. Right.

Speaker 1 And then it's every Georgia fan's dream to be the quarterback of the Bulldogs. And then he did it and he shouldn't have been the quarterback for the Bulldog.
Like

Speaker 1 if you had hit Kirby Smart with True Serum, like, would you rather have Stetson Bennett start in this game or a five-star prospect that every elite program now has? Yeah. But no, it's Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 3 Stetson Bennett just somehow, it was the exact right time, exact right place for Stetson Bennett, and he took full advantage of it.

Speaker 1 He had a great quote. Ready for this quote?

Speaker 1 He said afterwards, by the way, it's so funny watching these guys do the interviews after, being like, oh, we actually got to interview Joe Burrow when he was still drunk.

Speaker 1 Because he was like, Stetson Bennett went on Good Morning America. He was wasting.

Speaker 3 The difference is, we were also drunk. Yes,

Speaker 3 Michael Strahan should have been drunk if he's interviewing Stetson Bennett. It is fucked up.

Speaker 3 I always thought that the meanest thing that you could ever do to somebody is make them call and talk to Mike Greenberg at at six o'clock in the morning. It's the day after you win something.

Speaker 1 But he said, I hope it gives someone a little hope. Keep your mouth shut.
Work hard. Life is tough.
Work through it. And like...

Speaker 1 He could say that because he was a walk-on and then he was transferred and then he came back and then he had to have, you know, he was behind Jake Fromm.

Speaker 1 And then he had to have the guy last year who is his name's escaping me suck. And then he got in.
And then J.T. Daniels was a starter.
Then he got hurt.

Speaker 1 Like all these things had to happen for him to be part of an incredible team. And obviously, the real

Speaker 1 winner of the Georgia football team is their defense, which they played their absolute dicks off. They felt like

Speaker 1 Alabama and Jamison Williams getting hurt was a big game changer.

Speaker 1 But Alabama, like every time they would get these big plays and Georgia's defense was able to basically shake it off and be like, all right,

Speaker 1 don't give up a touchdown. Make them score field goals here.

Speaker 3 So we're not going to do the thing where we debate whether or not the worst NFL team could lose to Georgia because I think the Colts would beat Georgia by at least 20 points. Yes.
But I do think that

Speaker 3 this game, the Alabama Georgia National Championship, had as many fast players on the field as most NFL teams would. It was insane.

Speaker 3 The speed on defense from Georgia,

Speaker 3 it's terrifying watching their big men run. It's actually scary to me.
And their linebackers are faster than most safeties.

Speaker 1 And then, on top of all of that, you got a guy like Brian Robinson who's making them look small.

Speaker 1 Like he was, there was that stretch where it felt like Bama had taken control of the game when they were just pounding and pounding and pounding.

Speaker 1 And like, it was like, uh-oh, they've sucked the life out of this game.

Speaker 1 I think it was when they, again, got a field goal because I think someone dropped, there was a lot of drop passes for Bryce Young, who's awesome.

Speaker 1 I love him so much, even in defeat. But Brian Robinson was just bouncing off these dudes and like guys were trying to go high and he was just carrying them for extra yards.

Speaker 1 You're right. It was like one of those games where you watched it, and

Speaker 1 this sucks to say, but if you're a fan of pretty much, I don't know, any team except for like the top five, you realize it's a different sport.

Speaker 1 Like, those guys are playing a different sport than everyone else in college football.

Speaker 3 Even the top two. The top two separation from this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, yeah, for sure. Clemson has dudes like

Speaker 1 Ohio State. But I'm saying, like, as a Wisconsin fan, I'm watching it being like, no, this isn't the same sport.
No, this is not the same sport.

Speaker 3 Although Stetson is like the one wild card where Stetson Bennett, he probably wouldn't start at a lot of schools out there, a lot of D1 schools.

Speaker 1 I did say to myself in a moment of utter stupidity when it was nine to six and a half, I was like,

Speaker 1 this is kind of a game script that Wisconsin could hang in.

Speaker 1 Even though they would have been down like 40.

Speaker 3 But that's the thing about Stetson is

Speaker 3 if you root for a school like Wisconsin. or just, you know, any school that's, you know, five through 25,

Speaker 3 your quarterback's probably better than Stetson Bennett is. Yeah.
So it's crazy. So it could happen to you.
That's the most important position.

Speaker 3 You could, you could find lightning in a bottle if everything else lines up perfectly.

Speaker 1 Think about the quarterbacks that have won the national championship in the last five years. It's Mac Jones, Trevor Lawrence.
Trevor Lawrence sucks. It's Joe Burrow.
It's Tua.

Speaker 1 It's fucking Deshaun Watson. Like, these guys are studs that are top picks in the draft.
And then Stetson Bennett. Throw his name in there.
Combo breaker. Unbelievable.
Also,

Speaker 3 I don't want to to get bonked for this because I don't mean in a sexual way, but they need to freeze this Ugga's sperm.

Speaker 3 Like, this Uga, for whatever reason, has championship DNA.

Speaker 1 Poor guy was just so tired.

Speaker 3 He was so sleepy. He doesn't have a blanket.
He doesn't have a pillow. He doesn't have a bowl of food or water.
They just put him in like a plastic crate and make him go to sleep.

Speaker 3 He's in like the transfer portal to oblivion, just passing out in there.

Speaker 3 But for whatever reason, this Uga has, he's built different.

Speaker 3 You need to keep this DNA in-house if you're the University of Georgia, and all other UGAs need to be related to this one.

Speaker 1 And it's,

Speaker 1 you know, for Georgia fans, like, there's got to be nothing sweeter. You win a title for the first time since 1980.

Speaker 1 You've been, you've had really good teams in that timeframe, but to beat Alabama, I saw a stat. So Georgia and Alabama faced off four times

Speaker 1 in the last, whatever, like three or four years, obviously starting with that 2018 national championship where they were up at half and two comes in.

Speaker 1 Georgia was leading 71% of those games and they were 0-4. Like they were so close so many times and they just couldn't climb that mountain.

Speaker 1 So to not only beat Alabama, beat Nick Sabin, come from behind and do it, it's like the perfect script for any fan. Georgia fans have to be just on cloud nine right now.

Speaker 1 And it was cool to have a new national champion. Like we talk about it all the time.

Speaker 1 It's kind of, I love college football so, so much, but I can also admit that when Alabama wins every year or Clemson for a couple years there, like it gets a little boring.

Speaker 1 Georgia being new blood, even though it doesn't feel like it because it's SEC, it's fun to have a new team win a national championship.

Speaker 3 I also like the fact that the game took place in Indianapolis. I'm glad that it wasn't.

Speaker 3 I'm glad it wasn't in like a southern city where they usually have, you know, if it was somewhere in Florida, somewhere in Georgia, or somewhere in Louisiana.

Speaker 3 It feels like it's so much cooler to have two SEC fan bases invade like a northern city

Speaker 3 and just like wreck its shop for a week. Like the Georgia fans that got arrested at St.
Elmos for calling the dogs at St. Elmos.

Speaker 1 That's cool as shit. Imagine being a Bama fan because I would, you know, like Athens and Tuscaloosa are, I think, like a little less than 300 miles apart.

Speaker 1 So people probably aren't flying to like those.

Speaker 1 Those flights aren't the same. But a lot of people, a lot of Alabama fans are flying back to Atlanta.
A lot of Georgia fans are flying back to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 Imagine being a Bama fan, losing, and then having to get barked at on a flight all the way home. They're calling the dogs.

Speaker 3 You couldn't go out to a dinner last night because they were going to call the dogs at Harry's and Izzy's in the airport, too. You can't get on a plane.

Speaker 3 You're probably waiting in an Uber line right now with a bunch of Georgia fans that are calling the dogs.

Speaker 1 You're getting barked at. You've been getting barked at by human beings for three days straight, and it sucks.
And no one feels bad for Bama fans because this is the cost of just being Alabama.

Speaker 1 You're in it every year. You can't win it every year.
They are like significant odds-on favorites to win next year.

Speaker 3 I don't think they're odds-on. I think them and Georgia are tied for number one.

Speaker 1 No, it was, I'm pretty sure they were plus 150 and Georgia was like 300 or something.

Speaker 1 I mean, they have Bryce Young coming back. They have Will Anderson coming back.

Speaker 3 Odds on would mean like they're minus money. They're like minus 50.

Speaker 1 Whatever. They are the significant favorites.
They are the favorites by far.

Speaker 3 Yeah. When I saw this morning, it was about even that might have changed just in the last couple hours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're plus 150. Georgia's plus 500.
Okay. Bow State's second.

Speaker 3 Okay, that changed a lot then.

Speaker 1 No, that was, I think it was right after, but it's they, they have every, I mean, they will most likely be in this game next year. Because that, I mean, Nick Sabin would be.
I'm sure they will.

Speaker 3 I'm sure they will. Alabama is going to be around for forever.
Minor setback for a major comeback for Alabama.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one feels bad. Okay, should we talk some NFL? Let's do NFL coach firings.
So this is the only part, this is the downside of week 18

Speaker 1 that it overlaps. Like Black Monday, where we get all the coach firings, is also the National Championship Day.
I like to really soak in the coach firings.

Speaker 3 They do deserve to have their days of

Speaker 3 massive celebration from franchises. Yes.
Getting to turn a page.

Speaker 1 Yes. So Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace, both out in Chicago, we expected it.
Vic Fangio out in Denver, we expected it. Mike Zimmer out in Minnesota, we expected it.

Speaker 1 And then the shocker, Brian Flores, out in Miami, which I think did shock a lot of people.

Speaker 1 In reading about it, it feels a lot like how a lot of the Belichick disciples have gone, where

Speaker 1 good coach maybe not like he's pulling some of the secrecy stuff, some of the team-building stuff that isn't there, and your name's not Bill Belichick, and that can sometimes rub people the wrong way.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, he ended up winning, what, seven games in a row this year?

Speaker 1 He won with seven games in a row.

Speaker 3 But the problem is, he also started one and seven, right? Right. So, like, yeah, he is, he's a good coach, um, especially his record against Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 I think he was four and two, lifetime as a coach of the Dolphins against Belichick, which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 On the same token, like as everyone's talking about how he beat Bill Belichick, the Bills beat the shit out of the Dolphins, too. So it's kind of like, it's,

Speaker 1 I like seeing everyone say, like, why would you fire a coach that beats Bill Belichick? Well, the last couple of years, the Bills have been

Speaker 1 the Patriots in the AFC East, and he didn't beat that.

Speaker 3 Also, the last four games that they've played, they've had either Mac Jones or Cam Newton as the quarterback. So it's not like the Patriots, the Patriots that they're playing.

Speaker 3 But I think Brian Flores is like, people were surprised because over the course of the season, they seem to be building momentum.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 But if you look at what they did last year and this year, it's kind of like, okay, it's a little bit stagnant. The fact that you had a bad start like they had this year,

Speaker 3 that's going to put you on the hot seat immediately. Right.
And yeah, he had to have like a miraculous comeback in the second half. I think he's a, I think he's a perfectly fine coach.

Speaker 3 I think he's an above-average coach.

Speaker 3 But I was surprised that they did it because I felt like

Speaker 3 if you're trending in the right direction and you have a winning record in the NFL, you almost never get fired. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can win your way to keeping the job at the end of a season.

Speaker 1 It's actually, someone likened it to Adam Gace having that streak at the end of his, I think it was either first or second year with the Dolphins. Yeah,

Speaker 5 we talked about it a few weeks ago, but they made the playoffs with Matt Moore.

Speaker 1 Right, and they weren't a good player.

Speaker 5 That was pretty much the only time they made the playoffs since like Chad Pennington.

Speaker 1 Right. They weren't a good team.
They just had a soft schedule. So you kind of win your way into getting that extra year.

Speaker 1 So I fired off a take, and then I actually, like Dolphins fans, I had a long discussion with them yesterday, which I actually, people will be like, you like tweeting back and forth to people?

Speaker 1 I genuinely do love it because I then went and dove in and tried to like understand it.

Speaker 1 I think that he probably rubbed some people the wrong way. And it was what all NFL

Speaker 1 firings kind of come down to is like,

Speaker 1 are you liked by the owner in the GM and has the GM ingratiated himself to the owner? So it's like a power play. He lost the power play.
I think he's a good X's and O's coach.

Speaker 1 You have to point out the fact that he had three different OCs in three years and none of them got promoted. That's not great.
Like if you're, like, I would be fine with the Bears hiring him.

Speaker 1 I would want him to have a set plan offensively because that does come under the coach. Like, even though he's a defensive coach,

Speaker 1 it's similar to Vic Fangio. Like, if you don't get the offense figured out, it still counts against you.

Speaker 3 If you don't have a good enough offensive coordinator to get interviews somewhere else, it means that you just suck. That the offense is is just awful.
Right.

Speaker 3 And so, so you, even if you have a winning record as a defensive coach, you're still not going to have that same, you're not going to be regarded in the same way as if you're an offensive genius and you're winning the exact same amount of games.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 1 And Jake, you can chime in because you obviously are a Dolphins fan, but from everything I kind of understood from Dolphins fans is that it wasn't that they thought Brian Flores was this incredible coach.

Speaker 1 It's more that he was the best coach you guys have had in a very long time, and that's why it's disappointing.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 They have momentum right now that we've never seen.

Speaker 3 seen it's first time they had back-to-back winning season since 0203 that's crazy and for the dolphins right that's a high bar right so the fact that they actually had something going and then steven ross just yanked that i think that's what people are upset about i think people need to realize that more and more is that the people that own sports franchises the person that owns your favorite team is a pretty big idiot just like the sooner you come to terms with that the better they're just they're morons like everybody else like think of the dumbest people that you work with that is typically about the same IQ level as an NFL owner.

Speaker 1 Which is a great segue to what the Bears are dealing with right now. I watched the entire press conference yesterday.

Speaker 1 George McCasky, he

Speaker 1 was asked about his role, and he said he talked to the board, and they want him to stay in his role, which

Speaker 1 literally means his mom still likes him.

Speaker 1 Who else is on the board?

Speaker 3 How many?

Speaker 3 What are the percentages of people with the last name, McCaskey?

Speaker 1 He also said his Virginia, who's like 99,

Speaker 1 said she was very, very disappointed in the bears season. So two varies, which this is all a replay of 2015, 2012, where they're just

Speaker 1 nothing is going to change.

Speaker 1 They have an accountant, Ted Phillips, running the organization, which shout out to him.

Speaker 1 I hate him, but snake it till you make it. This is just a lesson for anyone in life.

Speaker 1 If you can figure out a big project that that you can kind of keep pushing down the line, it's very hard to fire you. So he's obviously in charge of the Arlington Heights like land purchase.

Speaker 1 And I think that will never happen because Ted Phillips knows as long as they're still negotiating it, he will still have a job.

Speaker 3 And that's actually brilliant advice. Yes.

Speaker 3 If you're the person that's got the long-term goal out there, then you almost make it, people are afraid to fire you because then they'd have to find somebody else to restart your project. Right.

Speaker 3 And also they've wasted so much money on you. It's genius.
They feel like they're a failure if they fire you. Yes.
But that is very smart.

Speaker 1 Here's the good news: the Bears have a very good plan going forward. They hired 79-year-old Bill Pollion to run, to get paid probably $500,000 to run the coaching search.

Speaker 3 I want to start a search firm, a coaching search firm. I would be so good at it.
I would just give you, I would give you 8x10 pictures of Greg Williams,

Speaker 3 Greg Sciano.

Speaker 3 I would probably print out a picture of one of the Shula brothers.

Speaker 1 Quote, Bill Parcells.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Bill Parcells. I'd learned, like, I'd have a binder of Bill Parcell's quotes.

Speaker 3 I would get one of the Bowden boys in there just to have somebody that you can say no to real, real early on in the process. You can look down on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, look down and be like, okay, so we know what we're not looking for now. So let's keep moving forward.
It's the best racket of all time.

Speaker 3 And I think Polemon's first move is, isn't he bringing in like Jeff Ireland?

Speaker 1 Well, he's, this is so bad.

Speaker 1 I'm officially like just giving up because it's, again, the only way the Bears can be fixed is Ted Phillips has to go and George McCasky has to say, which it's crazy that he still says he doesn't know anything about football when his entire life has been football.

Speaker 1 Like your family owns the Bears. It's your only job.
It's literally your life is football. Maybe pop in an all-22 once in a while.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 But either way, if he's still calling shots and Ted Phillips is there, nothing really matters. They hired Bill Pollion.
They also said, which is the dumbest thing you could possibly do, they said,

Speaker 1 we're going to look for a GM and a coach, but if the right coach comes, we'll hire the right coach before the GM.

Speaker 1 So Bill Pollion is interviewing coaches right now and also kind of GMs. So you might hire a coach and then a guy to be the coach's kind of boss afterwards.

Speaker 3 Okay, here's what's going to happen. Bill Pollion is going to bring in one of his old friends.

Speaker 3 It's really a shame that John Fox probably won't be the coach again because that was probably on page one for Bill Pollion. It's just a sentence.
It says, John Fox, period. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But Pollyan's probably going to bring in one of his buddies, interview that guy, and then they'll be like, hey, what if just the two of us did it? And then they hire themselves together.

Speaker 3 Bill Pollion is now your general manager with the coach that helped select. They both kind of hired each other.
Does that make sense? Right. And it's the old Dick Cheney looking for who George W.

Speaker 3 Bush's vice president is going to be.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's me.

Speaker 3 I'm right here.

Speaker 1 I'm the best guy. Yeah, now that I've actually given you the criteria, I check all the boxes.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He needs to have huge pants and he needs to steal food from ESPN.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Allegedly.
They got that guy. Yeah.
They did the same thing, though, in 2015, but they got Ernie Ercorsy, who then hired John Fox. So

Speaker 1 nothing's going to change. It's all the same.
I do want to push back on people who are like, Bill Pullion knows, like, you know, he was the architect of the Bills and the Colts and all these things.

Speaker 1 He knows so much football. At some point, it has to, like, he's probably not keeping up the same way he did when he was 50 years old.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and also he's the architect of the Colts. He drafted Peyton Manning.
His biggest career accomplishment is like, I didn't take the other guy. Yeah.
I took Peyton Manning. Good choice, Bill.

Speaker 3 I'm just going to ride that for the rest of my life. I had one good week of work in the last 30 years, and now I just get to coast off that.
It's another great example of snake until you make it.

Speaker 3 And then once you do happen to make it for a brief period of time, just ride that wave, baby.

Speaker 1 Ride it forever.

Speaker 3 And Bill's doing a good job of it. I think it's very funny what's going on in New York with the Giants situation.
So Dave Gettelman retired.

Speaker 3 He chose to walk away

Speaker 3 at the peak of his powers.

Speaker 3 He just figured it's time to write off into the sunset after he's accomplished everything that he wanted to accomplish in the NFL. And it looks like Joe Judge is going to stick around.

Speaker 3 He did one of the famous

Speaker 3 long-term planning meetings with the owner where you sit and you probably cry and you fight for your job and you give him your plan of what you're going to do for the next three to five years.

Speaker 3 And it looks like he's going to stick around. And then he said, you know, I'd really like to be involved in the search for the general manager.
So he's doing...

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 3 He just promoted himself to

Speaker 3 senior general manager

Speaker 3 who's in charge of hiring the GM who's going to be in charge of coaching decisions.

Speaker 3 So it's even better than the Bill O'Brien being general manager manager and head coach at the same time, where head coach Bill O'Brien can fire general manager Bill O'Brien and hire somebody else.

Speaker 3 In this circumstance, it's senior general manager Joe Judge will hire his own boss, but also then be able to fire potentially his own boss because he hired him.

Speaker 1 So I actually, I've come all the way around. I actually think the Giants, they don't have anything, but...
Keeping Joe Judge actually makes sense this year because I was thinking about it.

Speaker 1 You're going to hire a GM. You can pretend like, like you said, like, we'll let Joe Judge pretend that he's picking.
You know what I mean? I imagine Joe Judge is going to be doing fake interviews and

Speaker 1 they'll be like, oh, Joe, Joe, can you pass over your notes? Like, thank you. Then they throw it right in the trash.
But if you're going to get, the team sucks. It's got.
like big time.

Speaker 1 The craziest part about the Giants is they spent all this money. So they're like, obviously the cap is crap, but like they're right up against it.
They don't have a lot of moves they can make.

Speaker 1 Why not keep Joe Judge? Fire him midway through next season?

Speaker 1 The new GM can use Joe Judge as a cover and basically be like, all right, we've made a change. Joe Judge is gone.
And then the new GM gets his new coach.

Speaker 2 That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 That's a very smart thing to do. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, I've thought about it a lot because

Speaker 1 on paper, Joe Judge still having his job and Brian Flores losing his job is fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 It is nuts.

Speaker 1 But it makes sense because they're basically like, Joe, we don't want to pay someone else to then inherit a, like, no real up-and-coming candidate is going to say the Giants is a great job right now.

Speaker 1 Wait a year, get some draft picks,

Speaker 1 like clean the slate. Actually, then fire.

Speaker 3 I do think that right now the Giants is a very attractive job if you're a general manager, if you're an aspiring general manager. But for a coach.
Because the coach knows.

Speaker 3 Because next year is going to suck. Coach, no, but for a GM, absolutely.
Because you do have some draft picks this year. Yep.
Two. That you're stepping in.
Two in the top 10. Two in the top 10.

Speaker 3 And then you have the perfect scapegoat in Joe Judge. Nobody Nobody expects anything out of Joe Judge next year.

Speaker 1 Right. That's smart, right? He's like a human shield.

Speaker 3 Yes, you need a human shield.

Speaker 3 It's like if a coach takes over a quarterback situation where it's like somebody that you just recently drafted and you've got all these expectations, but they stink in their second year, a coach can then immediately hit the reset button either by trading for a quarterback or drafting another one if you're a new coach.

Speaker 3 You've got another two years extension. Right.
Actually, firing Joe Judge would be the most popular personnel decision that the Giants have done in years. Exactly.

Speaker 1 You basically are giving... It's basically the free box in a bingo card is what you're handing the GM.
Yeah, people are.

Speaker 1 You get to show up. You get to go through the first two months of the season, have the Giants suck, then fire Joe Judge, and everyone's like, thank God he's cleaning house.

Speaker 3 The problem with the Giants is I feel like Mr. Mara, the Mara family, is constantly looking for another Tom Coughlin.
Yeah. They just want...

Speaker 3 They hired Joe Judge to be their like their younger version of Tom Coughlin which is basically saying like we want we want an asshole right we want an asshole that happens to also be good at coaching football um but the problem is like if you if you're gonna be an asshole you have to be an asshole that has a track record of success yes in the NFL but you can't really be an asshole before you become a good coach.

Speaker 1 Every Belichick disciple.

Speaker 3 You can turn into an asshole afterwards, but it's usually not a prerequisite for everybody to hate you before you get good, which is, it seems like the most basic like human interaction piece of advice that you can ever have.

Speaker 3 It's second nature, right?

Speaker 1 Like, you make friends.

Speaker 3 Make friends first, and then you can do whatever after you start doing good stuff.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins situation, I read this article that I'm always obviously skeptical after a coach gets fired, who's putting everything in the media, but it was very fair and like right down the middle.

Speaker 1 And they essentially said, what's his first name? Greer. Chris Greer.
Chris Greer, the GM for the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 They're like, why has Chris Greer been able to hang around through Adam Gase and Brian Flores and all these changes?

Speaker 1 And it's like, because he's very deferential and he shows Stephen Ross a ton of respect. He's a suck up.
Like, sometimes you got to be a suck up in your job.

Speaker 3 I mean, Vinny Serato was the general manager and senior legal counsel for the Washington football team for the Redskins for, I want to say, like, 14 years.

Speaker 3 And he would, the only time he ever got fired was one time Marty Schottenheimer was like, this guy sucks, and he's a football dumbass, so I'm going to fire him for a year.

Speaker 3 Then Schottenheimer got fired so that they could rehire Serato. But Serato's job was essentially to just get beaten by Dan Snyder in racquetball.

Speaker 1 This is Ted Phillips that we're talking about. It's full circle.
There's always one of these guys in every organization.

Speaker 3 Just let the owner kick your ass in racquetball or golf, whatever sport that he plays. Laugh at all his jokes.
Make sure he has his nice cigars that he likes.

Speaker 3 Cover up any sort of sexual harassment claims that he's got going under the rug. And then you will have a job for life as being like the football rasputin, the second in command of any franchise.

Speaker 1 It's really hard to fire your friend. Yep.
That's what we've learned in the NFL. But it's, yeah, the Giants, it will be interesting.
So there's four jobs open.

Speaker 1 I don't, it feels like Pete Carroll, they're going to, it would be so, the Seahawks would be so smart to just bring Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson back. They are.
Be like, it has to happen.

Speaker 1 You're, you're, you're better with these two guys than like 80% of the league.

Speaker 3 Right, but that's all they're going to do this offseason. They're going to say, you know what? These two guys are coming back.
We've got our quarterback, got our coach. So we'll be fine.

Speaker 3 We'll just roll the dice with these guys again. And then they just won't do anything to address any other positions of need whatsoever.

Speaker 1 But I still would rather that than break up those guys because we see it. You end up in football purgatory with revolving doors.
And there's a lot of franchises you can say that about.

Speaker 1 The Bears are definitely one of them. The Giants are one of them where you just lose your way.
And it's like a never-ending cycle. So,

Speaker 1 okay, should we do hot seat cool throne? Let's do it. All right.
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Speaker 1 Say howdy, partner, to new Buffalo Ranch sauce only at McDonald's for a limited time.

Speaker 2 At participating, McDonald's.

Speaker 1 Hank is out with the Coco. Liam, do you have a hot seat cool throne? Yes, I both.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go. All right.
My hot seat is Jim Jones, the rapper from New York, dipset.

Speaker 1 Isn't there like a cult leader?

Speaker 6 Dipset's awesome.

Speaker 1 Not the cult leader one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. In an interview with the Breakfast Club recently, he claimed that he learned how to tongue kiss from his mom.
Oh, okay. And it was very awkward where they kind of didn't keep going with it.

Speaker 1 Bunk. That's.
That was a bunk. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's a major bunk.

Speaker 1 Kind of early guys on chicks. Oedipus.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Did he kill his dad?

Speaker 1 Damn. I don't know.
I mean, I guess,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's a lot to digest there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't really know.

Speaker 1 I didn't know if he had a take on it. I don't.

Speaker 3 My take is that it's weird. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did it, like, he kissed his mom or his mom

Speaker 1 taught him how to do it. That's what they didn't ask.
Like, I don't know if it was just

Speaker 1 verbally showing.

Speaker 3 It's like slightly less weird if his mom's like you put your tongue into the girl's mouth. And that's kind of it.

Speaker 1 And that's it. That's awesome.
And then you kind of move it around a little bit, not too fast, not too slow.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 yeah, this is fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, really fucked up.

Speaker 3 I feel very uncomfortable right now.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool throne. All right, my cool throne is Avril Levine.
All right. Is she alive? Yes.
And

Speaker 1 she had a,

Speaker 1 what is it called? She had like a cover, like, story written on her, and I believe it was Bizarre or like one of those. Okay.
And she posted on Instagram.

Speaker 1 like who wants a new song and people are saying she's gonna put out a new album which I don't think she has okay Avril's back forever I'm pumped about this for one reason

Speaker 3 I saw her on New Year's Eve for a little bit. I was flipping back and forth between her and Miley.
And her performance, she did Skater Boy.

Speaker 1 She changed back and forth?

Speaker 3 No, no, I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
But she did performance Skater Boy, Travis Barker, on the drums.

Speaker 3 If Travis Barker plays drums on this new album, I'm all in because whatever he does, he's somehow like the best songwriting drummer where he makes any band or any act that he plays with that much better.

Speaker 3 And we're also trying to get him on a song for Pup Punk. So, Travis,

Speaker 1 you're the man, dog.

Speaker 3 Play with Pup Punk.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right, good job, Bubba.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 PFT, your hot seat cooler on.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is New York Times crossword puzzles. Oh.
Because people are playing Wordle now. Wordle.
And I don't know what the fuck Wordle is.

Speaker 3 I've reached a point where I've seen so many people tweeting about it and talking about it that now I hate the people that are talking about it because I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 3 And so now I just might be an anti-Wordle guy.

Speaker 1 I tried to download it and I forgot my Apple password, so then I stopped. Okay,

Speaker 3 you want to be anti-Wordle?

Speaker 1 I'm in. Okay, fuck Wordle.

Speaker 3 Hunt up these nerds with your green dots. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been doing it. I'm just a nerd guy.
I've been doing it, and they have a colorblind version. And then I just fucking got roasted for it immediately when I posted it.

Speaker 1 It looks like it's like night mode almost. Wow, progressive Wordle.

Speaker 3 Explain it to me. Like, pretend like I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 So you have to, it gives you,

Speaker 1 it's like five-letter words where you guess, and then if it's the letter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like that, that would be one. Okay.
And then it tells you if the letter is in the right space or if it's like in the word, and and then you just keep guessing as it goes.

Speaker 3 Oh, that sounds stupid.

Speaker 1 You guys ever play Mastermind board game with the color pegs? I don't like anything that's supposed to sharpen my mind. I'd like to just have my mind get duller and duller.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's why I watch TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 I don't need to read first thing in the morning.

Speaker 1 Your cool throne?

Speaker 3 My cool throne is starting wars in the Middle East.

Speaker 3 Because the New Yorker is, yeah, nice light one.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. The New Yorker.
The Word Ultimate to Wars.

Speaker 3 The New Yorker is,

Speaker 3 well, it's a four-letter country. It starts with a letter I.

Speaker 3 Who are we going to bomb next?

Speaker 3 If you guessed Iran, you are correct.

Speaker 3 The New Yorker is writing an article just being like, hey, heads up, Iran, they're actually going to attack, so we better start a war over there real quick, Pronto, and take care of that regime

Speaker 3 as if we haven't lived through the last 20 years of existence on planet Earth. Well,

Speaker 1 it's like the day

Speaker 1 a 60-year-old retires, and they're like, what do I do with my life? I worked all my life. I was at war all my life.
Yeah, I got to go back to war.

Speaker 3 You got to find something else.

Speaker 1 Brooks was here.

Speaker 3 It's funny how we keep doing the exact same thing over and over and over again.

Speaker 3 It'll be different this time. It'll be different this time.
You know what? We're going to be greeted as liberators over there. You know what it is?

Speaker 3 Like starting another war in the Middle East, it is like another team hiring Adam Gace and being like, you know what? We feel like this time he's really different. He's shown a lot of growth.

Speaker 3 He had some bad setups in the past. Some

Speaker 3 of the Manning. He was with Peyton Manning.
Remember, he had that great season. Yep.

Speaker 1 I love it. All it's got to do is eat McDonald's in blue jeans.

Speaker 3 Exactly. That's us saying, remember the first Iraq war.
We won that in two weeks. That was awesome.
Had a great team around him. Joe Schwartzkopf.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but so yeah, we're going back to the war in the Middle East. So that's it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 My hot seat is Colts fans

Speaker 1 because not only on Monday night was it in Indianapolis, you could actually see the Colt, the Feint Colts logo

Speaker 1 at midfield. And then

Speaker 1 the day after your season falls apart against the 2-14 Jackson Jaguars. Do they win three games?

Speaker 1 3-14

Speaker 1 Jacksonville Jaguars. Carson Wentz shits down his leg.
And then Andrew Luck shows up out of nowhere, and he goes on with RG3.

Speaker 1 And that had to suck so fucking bad.

Speaker 1 To be like, oh, all of our life's problems can be fixed by this guy who just showed up on TV but he doesn't even want to be there right he looked like he's lost about 70 pounds oh my god

Speaker 3 I actually don't think that Andrew Luck has picked up a football in the last three years yeah and he looks really happy but it was it was

Speaker 1 it was right there it was it was right there it's it's right in your face you're trying to just drown your sorrows and Andrew Luck shows up looking happy as could be and Andrew Luck does not lose that game no he doesn't No, he does not.

Speaker 1 He does not.

Speaker 3 Andrew, people forget Andrew Luck was a very, very good quarterback. Yes.

Speaker 3 Even though Hank would probably dispute that. I think he's one of the guys that Hank hates, right? Yeah, there's a list.
Yeah, I run him.

Speaker 1 All right, my cool throne is Billy.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 when Bill Pollion was announced that he was hired by the Bills, or sorry, the Bears, I went and looked and

Speaker 1 tried to see his worst takes.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows the Lamar Jackson take, but he actually said about that 2017, or that was the 2018 draft. He said about the 2017 draft, the Mitch Trubisky draft.

Speaker 1 Former Bills GM Bill Pullion says Chad Kelly is the most talented QB in 2017 NFL draft. So Billy is running the Bears.

Speaker 7 Well, have you seen Ryan Pace? Yeah. No, there's some picture that someone tagged me in where Ryan Pace, like, I had to do a double check.
I thought it was me.

Speaker 1 I would rather you be running the Bears. No joke.
Like, and that's not. We'd have fun with it.
Yeah, no, at least we'd be doing some out-of-the-box things.

Speaker 3 Especially high effort. Yeah, no, you would just hire that the Iowa strength coach that Urban Meyer hired.

Speaker 1 Great. Who cares? We're just going to be something different.

Speaker 3 We're going to be the strongest team.

Speaker 1 But it's great to see that that's the guy they hired.

Speaker 1 That's your take. Chad Kelly.

Speaker 1 Most talented guy. Yeah.
And then also Michael Tron is Game of the Year is 2-0, 2022.

Speaker 1 It is thrilling.

Speaker 1 I would strongly recommend everyone.

Speaker 1 do a game of the year because it's or multiple because it feels extra special when you have that much on i feel like game of the year i don't want to do a game Game of the Year because that's your thing.

Speaker 3 I would do like a Game of the Year.

Speaker 1 You did the Dream Game, which I told you, Billy fucked you up with the pills. It was just reversed.

Speaker 3 No, but my score was perfect.

Speaker 1 I'm saying, though, you were like, if you had just reversed it, Georgia.

Speaker 3 The total, the point total was perfect.

Speaker 3 No, I'm not going to do a Game of the Year. Dream Game is different, very different from you.
That's just like...

Speaker 3 Something shows up in your subconscious and instructs you about something.

Speaker 3 I would do a Game of the Decade.

Speaker 1 I've done the Game of the Century. Game of the Century.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is game of millennium you did you did a game of centuries i've done a game of the i think i did a game of the decade last year the year before i know stuiner does game of the centuries like once every couple weeks so

Speaker 1 i might do game of a lifetime game game of the millennium goal yeah you can just keep going with it it's fun when's the next game of the year um i gotta i gotta look probably the next couple weeks if we're being honest i'll probably end up with about 25 to 30 game of the years this year if i mean it's january i'm already got two so i'm kind of I'm on pace for 48.

Speaker 1 48. Yeah, averaging one a week.
We're in the second week of January. All right, what's your hot seat? Cool throwing, Billy.

Speaker 7 My hot seat is Pokemon Go. Two police officers were arrested for, instead of responding to

Speaker 7 a robbery in progress, they decided to go hunt Snorlax on their Pokemon Go app instead of responding to a cool thing.

Speaker 1 Did they get him, though? Yes. They got Snorlax.
They did.

Speaker 3 Good. It's kind of worth it.
Yeah, mission accomplished.

Speaker 7 And they both got fired.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 Snorlax didn't do anything for them.

Speaker 3 I didn't even know that people were honestly still playing Pokemon Go. That was the

Speaker 3 2016.

Speaker 1 It was also the most blatant, we're just going to take pictures of your house.

Speaker 3 Yeah, everybody turn this camera on and videotape the inside of your house and then send it to China.

Speaker 1 Yeah, point it at all of your surroundings and neighborhoods so that we can Google map everything from the ground. This is totally fine.

Speaker 3 But the fucking Pokemon showed up on your phone in your house.

Speaker 1 This is cool.

Speaker 3 It's very cool. It's cool.

Speaker 1 And your cool throne?

Speaker 7 My cool throne is the Turkmenistan Gates of Hell.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yes.

Speaker 3 Are we invading them?

Speaker 7 No, but it is basically a pit that's been burning

Speaker 7 since they discovered it. They think Soviet scientists might have done it.
Turkmenistan has once again tried to extinguish the gates of hell, and they have not been able to.

Speaker 3 It's just a mystery fire underground. It's just a hole that is burning.

Speaker 7 That's not a volcano. That is just burning gas.

Speaker 3 Sounds like hell. Sounds like they discovered hell.

Speaker 1 Exactly. It's like the eternal flame.

Speaker 3 Wasn't there a fire in Pennsylvania that lasted for like 70 years? An underground fire? Sure. I'm pretty sure there was.
It might still be going to this very day.

Speaker 1 That sounds like something that

Speaker 1 can't really be fact-checked that I think you just gotta

Speaker 1 spin it as a positive. You should be like, this is the home of the longest burning fire.

Speaker 3 Longest burning fire ever, yeah.

Speaker 7 My other cool throne is the northeast because it's pretty fucking cold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was cold today. It was windy.

Speaker 3 It's cold. 20 degrees.
Yeah, winter sucks.

Speaker 7 Historically cold.

Speaker 1 Winter sucks, but guess what? We still have like five more weeks of football. So that is the positive to week 18:

Speaker 1 it doesn't even, like, I always get a little sad after divisional round because you're like, oh, shit, there's only three more games.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I start to get upset when we no longer have Saturday football.

Speaker 1 Right. So we have two more weeks of that to get us through January.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. The fire has been burning since 1962 in Centralia.

Speaker 1 There we go. Still going right now.
It's a sick fire.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is Dick's Sporting Goods. So they tweeted out 10 p.m.

Speaker 6 on the dot, Georgia champions. They were right.

Speaker 5 So their employees are now on the cool throne, but if they lost, that could have been a big issue.

Speaker 1 I'm woke. I feel like that was just a genius plan to get people to talk about Dick's Sporting Goods.
Right? Here we are. Like that, every

Speaker 1 account should do that. Yeah.
Yeah. It's genius.
Like, what's it? Michael Rubman is like putting them out of business single-handedly. We should, reminder,

Speaker 1 memes, let's make sure we do that for the Super Bowl. So in like the beginning of the third quarter, tweet out from part in my take, congrats to fill in the blank team with

Speaker 1 fake shirts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, that would be great. We will, that will, I like that idea.
And people will own us. Publicity.
Everyone who's listening right now will know. Wink, wink.

Speaker 3 Or what we can also do is

Speaker 3 like right after Championship Sunday, schedule a tweet for 12 hours later and be like, congratulations to whoever loses that game.

Speaker 3 So if the Kansas City Chiefs lose the AFC Championship game, congrats to the Kansas City Chiefs for going to another Super Bowl and then put up a shirt of the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 And everybody would be like, oh, when scheduling tweets goes wrong. Yeah.
And then sweet interactions. Yes.
Then we probably.

Speaker 1 I like the idea. Also, maybe schedule a tweet of Jason Deruo falling down those stairs.
If we're just doing it right now,

Speaker 1 we'll put that in there.

Speaker 5 Like Cool Throne with Masters commercials. They made their debut last night during the broadcast.
Oh, no.

Speaker 3 No, Jake. Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Jake.

Speaker 1 They made their debut on New Year's Day.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 For the Rosemary. Okay.
It was during the day.

Speaker 3 Oh, no. It was during the Rosemary.
I was flying.

Speaker 1 It was with me. Here we go.

Speaker 1 No, Jake. My other cool throne is Kellen Mond.

Speaker 3 Face the music, Jake.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 3 The sun was going down.

Speaker 1 They made their debut in my house. I tweeted about it.
I said this premier.

Speaker 5 They made their debut in my house.

Speaker 1 I apologize.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 2022 is not your year. It really isn't so far.
Fossil fuck up.

Speaker 1 Are you going through it right now?

Speaker 5 There's a lot going on, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Maybe a notes app will fix it tomorrow.
Again? I know. Yeah, I think.
I mean, the people need a notes app when you fuck up. We need it.

Speaker 2 They made their debut on this show.

Speaker 3 What do you mean? The topic, masters commercials. Right now.

Speaker 1 Okay. You just made their debut.

Speaker 1 Okay. I apologize.

Speaker 1 I remember tweeting about it being like, it's way too early for masters commercials during the rose.

Speaker 3 It's just crazy that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 The only person that we can trust on the bench mob is Marty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the last one.

Speaker 3 No, you can't do that. The last bastion of integrity.

Speaker 7 Before we judge Jake, I think we should COVID test him to make sure he doesn't have COVID break.

Speaker 1 Oh, don't do that.

Speaker 1 Now he's going to be nervous all day.

Speaker 7 I think that's only fair.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. He's going to be an anxious wreck.
My other cool throne.

Speaker 5 Our journalists. They got their shrimp last night.

Speaker 1 The timeline was flooded with shrimp. All of them tweeted at the exact same time.
I love Big J journalists. They act like they've never seen food before.
Well, it's good. Every time there's food.

Speaker 3 It's also in Indianapolis, we know, like, we've had the shrimp before. It's just, it's big shrimp and it's kind of spicy.
Yeah, the cocktail sauce is what's really good.

Speaker 3 But they freak out about shrimp every time they see it. Like during the combine, you'll see a million tweets from newspaper guys that are up there and be like, holy crap, the shrimp is here.

Speaker 3 First of all, where are you getting your shrimp in Indiana from? Do we know is that?

Speaker 1 I was just going to say, like, why is it good there? Shrimp is fast. It's probably

Speaker 3 the farthest away from any actual natural shrimp location of any place in the United States.

Speaker 1 It is just.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're an owner of a team or you own a stadium, why wouldn't you just go balls to the wall every time? Because journalists will always talk nicely about you.

Speaker 3 Here's what you need. You need a shrimp cocktail.
You need ice cream sandwiches or an ice cream selection for

Speaker 1 a refrigerator.

Speaker 3 Just filled to the brim with Die Coke. And then you need like

Speaker 3 hologram Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 1 Oh, don't forget, very important. You need a cutting board.
You need some meat being cut.

Speaker 1 You need some either some steak, some brisket, whatever it may be, but you need the carving station because they fucking love a carving station.

Speaker 3 They give me the worst meat in the world. Yeah.
But if you carve it. Just there.
If it's hand carved, then they'll be like, oh, this is luxury.

Speaker 1 Damn, this is incredible. All right, let's get to John Cena.
Good job, Jake.

Speaker 5 Thank you. PFT once you get AWLs.

Speaker 1 Here we go. I await the notes app.

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Speaker 1 This is John Cena.

Speaker 8 Yo.

Speaker 8 What's happened?

Speaker 1 What's going on? Good to see you.

Speaker 8 Nice situation you guys got there. You got a power rack in the back?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You benched? So, yeah. Last time you were on, we were in our old office.
We're in our new studio now. It's too bad.
We could have benched together.

Speaker 8 It's not a bench day for me. It's more of a compound movement day, but I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 What are you doing? Deadlifts?

Speaker 8 I'm going to try to do some snatch.

Speaker 1 nice yeah me too little ollie weight ollie weightlifting i was trying to i was just trying to pursue a more perfect snatch technique let's go all right uh you good to go sure am all right let's do it three two one

Speaker 1 okay we now welcome on our very good friend john cena

Speaker 1 uh go to hbo max on january 13th peacemaker is going to be out the first three episodes are out on january 13th and then every week after that until the middle of february new show.

Speaker 1 It's going to be awesome. I'm very excited.

Speaker 1 And you're in the Peacemaker outfit right now, which is

Speaker 8 make some peace.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you got the gloves on, too.

Speaker 8 Should see below my waist.

Speaker 1 Well, let's start with that. So I saw the,

Speaker 1 yeah, let's start. Let's go right to it.
I saw the

Speaker 1 trailer. You're dancing in your underwear.

Speaker 1 You said you were self-conscious. How is John Cena self-conscious when you are a Greek god?

Speaker 8 Well, uh, you need to get an eye exam, step one. Uh, two, we're all of us are flawed, guys.

Speaker 8 Uh, and all of us, uh, if you're not nervous, uh, and you don't have fear in your life, you may have to see a mental professional about that. I can't sing, uh, I can't dance.

Speaker 8 And my first day of shooting in front of uh 70 strangers, even with COVID safety, safety protocols, I'm in tidy whites.

Speaker 8 So I'm, I'm told to do two two things I'm really new and not proficient at and not any good at and do it with pretty much showing my junk to the world.

Speaker 8 I was nervous about that. I was hella nervous.
But that was our first day. And

Speaker 8 hats off to James Gunn for doing it for day one because it kind of set the tone to

Speaker 8 just have some fun. And it really set the tone on what the series was about.

Speaker 3 Yeah, did you get to give him any notes on that? Like, hey, maybe I can wear cargo shorts and dance. I'd feel more comfortable.
if I had to.

Speaker 8 I certainly would feel comfortable in cargo shorts or jorts, but

Speaker 8 I don't know if he's in the note-taking business and I'm not in the note-given business. So I was told the tidy whitey's.
So I brought

Speaker 8 my small piece to the table and we made some peace.

Speaker 1 I like that he did that on the first day. It's kind of like Hoosiers when they practice without a ball.
Everything's easier after that, where it's like you're...

Speaker 8 Honestly, it was. And it got the crew laughing.
Like, nobody really knows anybody. So when you assemble a crew for 120-day shoot.

Speaker 8 You're going to develop relationships over that time. And to do that first and to see, you know, one of the lead characters be able to just let their, you know, let, let everything hang out.

Speaker 8 I think it just, it just took the edge off. And everybody had, we had a great shoot.
It was really, really fun.

Speaker 3 Growing up, were you, were you a comic book guy? Did you used to read them back in the day?

Speaker 8 No, I wasn't. I was a wrestling guy.
Like, I loved wrestling with my, those are my superheroes. So I really wasn't a comic book guy in the whole universe.

Speaker 8 You know, when like when the first Batman, the Michael Keaton Batman came out, of course, I was riveted by that.

Speaker 8 I've always loved Batman because of the gadgets, even the Adam West Batmobile, but like nothing really too serious. No.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 you're a bona fide A-lister. You can do anything you want.
You, you know, you've made a ton of money. You've acted.

Speaker 1 This is hypothetical, right? No, no, this is all real. You've written books.
Yeah, you've written books. You have a hit

Speaker 1 album, which I loved. I wish you would rap some more.
What made you want to do this show, though? Like, what's the process that says, oh, this is actually something I want to do?

Speaker 1 Because I'd imagine you are a guy at this point in your career, you can do literally anything.

Speaker 8 Well, you know, our perception of other people's worlds is sometimes amazing.

Speaker 8 James Gunn, I got to work with him on the suicide squad and I got to see how fantastic he is.

Speaker 8 He's such an amazing storyteller and he also has a no asshole and he puts together teams of people who there's there's not a bad apple in the bunch. So you know, like I said, these are long shoots.

Speaker 8 And if you have somebody with a bad attitude, that can seep through to anybody on set.

Speaker 8 So I like the fact that I knew I I was going to be surrounded by good people. I knew I was going to be surrounded by a professional that made me better.

Speaker 8 And I knew James was going to put together a cast of the best people it could possibly get. So I figured it could go,

Speaker 8 it was going to be a great experience either way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great. I mean, that sounds, I mean, like I said, it's got to be nice to be John Cena at this point.

Speaker 1 Is there a specific thing that you haven't done that you want to do that you're like, I mean, you've done, like I said, I know you're humble, but

Speaker 1 I'll be not humble for you.

Speaker 1 You have done it all and you've done it all well. Is there something that you want to do that you have your eye on? You're like, you know what, it'd be really cool to do this because I'm John Cena.

Speaker 8 You know, I'll shave the last half off of that question. I don't know any other way to live.
I mean, I'm myself, so I live every day as me.

Speaker 1 A superhero.

Speaker 8 I try to work on empathy, so I try to see things through other people's eyes and I appreciate. the kind words.

Speaker 8 I guess the answer is just something I love. And I don't know what that is.
Right now, it's definitely storytelling. And I don't seek out like this role would be great.
read, I read.

Speaker 8 I read a lot of scripts.

Speaker 8 And if I read it and I'm riveted by it, I know that I can contribute to it. And it doesn't need to be, I don't need to be the lead.
It can be a very small role.

Speaker 8 I just finished a very small role in a movie called The Independent, where the script was riveting and it was intriguing to me.

Speaker 8 And that's a role that it's not this and it's not

Speaker 8 adult comedy. Like it's a dramatic role.
And

Speaker 8 I was just riveted by the stories. And I didn't search that out.
It just, hey, read the script and tell me what you think. So that's kind of how all of this stuff happens.

Speaker 8 I love to read. And if I'm riveted by the story, I know I'm passionate about it.
If I'm passionate about it, I know I'm going to give my all to it.

Speaker 1 Quick side question. When you read a script, do you count that as reading a book? Like at the end of the year, when you're like, I read 10 books? Nope.
You should. Just a little tip there.

Speaker 8 Oh, okay. I mean,

Speaker 8 the only person keeping score on that one is really me.

Speaker 8 But I will.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 What about if you listen to a book?

Speaker 8 I haven't yet explored listening to a book.

Speaker 8 What's your guys' take on that?

Speaker 3 Audiobooks. There's a really good one out there called Goodell versus Obama, but I'm not really a big audiobook guy.
I do count it, though.

Speaker 3 At the end of the year, like Big Cat's saying, I think if you read a pamphlet that's four pages long, that counts as a book.

Speaker 3 If you read the back of four different types of serial boxes, if you have to sign a lease, if you have to sign a lease

Speaker 1 it, yeah, if you like peruse a legalese.

Speaker 8 I would imagine you're like your cell phone provider or like a phone privacy agreement.

Speaker 1 That doesn't count. Yeah, when you download a game and they say like, hey, we're taking all of your information and using it against you, that's a book.

Speaker 3 Or if you were to watch any

Speaker 3 recurring series on Netflix or on Hulu or anything like that, HBO Max.

Speaker 8 Or like HBO Max. Yeah, if you were to watch Peacemaker on HBO Max.

Speaker 3 If you watched Peacemaker on HBO Max and you put the subtitles on, that counts as a book. Each episode counts as a book.

Speaker 8 Once again, to this fictitious scorecard that nobody cares about but us.

Speaker 1 I'm a count count all. People care.
Yeah, no, you.

Speaker 3 We care.

Speaker 3 What's the point of reading if you're not going to flex on somebody at the end of the year and be like, I read more books than you this year?

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe learning something. Who knows?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 3 It sounds like from the tone of this conversation, how you're working on yourself and looking forward to trying new challenges, we can safely say that the professor of thugonomics is not coming back.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's not true.

Speaker 8 That's not true. You know, I kind of

Speaker 8 over the over the years, you've actually seen more of the good doctor of thugonomics than over like the past 10 years, the appearance in the Firefly Funhouse match, the appearance at WrestleMania with Elias.

Speaker 8 It's almost like that, that character has taken on a sense of nostalgia itself. So when it shows up, it's it's it's like a it's a thing that gets people excited.
So I never, never say never, dude.

Speaker 8 I'm doing an interview in Full Peacemaker.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 I love that album. I used to play it in college.
It was the fastest way to get chicks to want to leave a party. Did you just pop on the John Cena

Speaker 1 at like two in the morning? They're like, why are these guys putting their hands in front of their face and screaming lyrics at us?

Speaker 8 By the way, little did they know that that would be the basis of a lot of meme culture years to come. They didn't know what a meme was.
In their defense, they didn't know what a meme was.

Speaker 1 That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, I like, I think my favorite phrase that you ever had was, tough to bring down like an overweight running back. That's just

Speaker 3 like a nod to Mike Allstott. I thought that you were talking about.

Speaker 8 Or Ironhead Hayward or Christian Okoye, you know, any of those.

Speaker 3 Mike Tolbert. The fullbacks.
Yeah, Mike Tolbert, legendary goal line.

Speaker 3 I actually made a remix of one of your songs back in 2014, Make It Loud.

Speaker 3 I just took Make It Loud and I spliced in you announcing that we've killed Osama bin Laden throughout the song just to make it a little bit more patriotic. I dialed it up a little bit for you.

Speaker 8 All right, that is a take.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 If you look back on your career as

Speaker 3 saying like we have just compromised to the fullest extent, Osama bin Laden, is that maybe like a highlight? Because you have to think of that on the spot.

Speaker 3 And I've never heard somebody use a phrase like compromise to the fullest extent. But when you said it, I was like, that's fucking cool.

Speaker 8 I think you may have a paraphrase instead of a quote.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 Maybe to a permanent end.

Speaker 3 To a permanent end, yes. That's even cooler.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 that was a big piece of news. And it just happened.
And I was being fed the news live. And we were at a pay-per-view in the DC area.
And that, I mean, that's a,

Speaker 8 we're, we're, we're talking, this is a

Speaker 8 piece of news that

Speaker 8 shook the United States to its very core with the events of 9-11.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 I thought it was something that people

Speaker 8 should know and that they should, like, okay, I know this information now. I'm in front of this audience.

Speaker 8 They should know this.

Speaker 8 And I just tried to think of a way to convey the message

Speaker 8 to make it as digestible as possible. And

Speaker 8 that's what popped into my head. I wanted people not to find out when they got home.
I thought that event and that moment in time was so impactful that I wanted people to know right there.

Speaker 8 And that's just the, I tried the best I could to convey that message.

Speaker 8 I'm glad you remember it in paraphrase form. I appreciate it.
It means it affected your life in some way, but I just tried the best I could to do it.

Speaker 1 It's an all-time moment. It's an all-time moment.
It's got to be an all-time thrill that, like, we joke about breaking news to people. There's something about that that's a rush.

Speaker 1 Breaking that type of news to a you know, a stadium of people has got to be a career highlight.

Speaker 1 You know, obviously, there's things that you actually did, but like that's got to be one of the things that you remember most vividly, I would imagine.

Speaker 8 Well, certainly to be in a position where people pay attention to your message. I mean, that's that

Speaker 8 there's, but there's, there's no doubt that that, um, like I said, that's a, that's a moment that had a ton of gravity, which is why, and I, I didn't do it for the broadcast.

Speaker 8 I thought we were off air. So I just literally did it for the people in arena, because if you're, if we're on the broadcast, you can click and find the news elsewhere.

Speaker 8 So I just really did it for the live people in the arena that may not have instant access to that piece of information.

Speaker 1 Wow, crazy. Um, you, so I don't know if you remember to go a little lighter route.
Uh, I don't even know if you remember when you came in and we interviewed you the first time. Do you?

Speaker 1 You've done so many interviews. It's okay.

Speaker 8 No, it was in your,

Speaker 8 like you said, your old offices, all white offices. We were pretty much in like a closet phone booth corner.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 8 Was there three of you then?

Speaker 3 Yeah, three of us in the room, probably. Maybe three.

Speaker 1 Three of us in the room. But

Speaker 1 the part that I'm hoping you remember

Speaker 1 and I'm hoping you think about all the time is my belly button because you saw my belly button, how deep it was and you wanted to risk it all i don't know you know how you know how we have experiences in our life that we're not brave enough to revisit so we just black out

Speaker 8 and like it takes uh concentrated dedicated therapy uh you just uncovered that experience

Speaker 8 whether i'm ready for it or not uh i don't know but i feel like i'm i may have to go to the bathroom and cry at the same time

Speaker 1 and somehow i'll be moved in an emotional way uh yeah you got you got a deep belly button I got a very deep belly button, and

Speaker 1 you gave it a sup with your eyes.

Speaker 8 I assessed your anatomy.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 8 You're revealing yourself to me. I did look at you.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 You look deep inside my butt. It's more central than looking deep into someone's eyes, looking into the crevices of their belly button, the cavernous belly button.

Speaker 8 Yes, their former feeding tube.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, if you want to put it that way.

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Go ahead. I got a question.
This is kind of a headline grab. So we're going to try to get you the news.

Speaker 8 This one should be great.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, it's gonna be excellent it's gonna be wonderful um get people buzzing about the new series on hbl max peacemaker check it out right now binge watch it read a book while you're doing it um whose side are you taking make sure the subtitles are on make sure yes otherwise it doesn't count as a book otherwise you're just looking at a book not reading it

Speaker 3 um whose side do you take vin diesel or the rock

Speaker 8 Oh, I don't think that story is about taking sides. I think that that story is about hearing everybody's perspective.

Speaker 8 And it's a story where me as a fan of the franchise, I'd love the franchise to get together for this last run. You know, I hope they call me to be in it.

Speaker 8 But when someone says professionally they want to go in another direction,

Speaker 8 if you say anything other than okay, it's their professional opinion to make the choice that they want. And I think that's very brave and very honest.
So

Speaker 8 I think Vin's perspective has a lot of gravity and honesty. And I think Dwayne's perspective has a lot of gravity and honesty.
And I don't, I think this is,

Speaker 8 man, if we could just stop taking sides, just take a second.

Speaker 1 It's very mature of you.

Speaker 8 To hear everybody, these are both two amazingly successful superstars, people who have crafted their own existence and are just globally adored. And, you know,

Speaker 8 Vin's been the father of the fast franchise. He's coming in on his 10th installment.

Speaker 8 Dwayne has taken, started as a, started as the most electrifying sports entertainer in the history of sports entertainment, and is, he's now in his own universe.

Speaker 8 So I guess it's just about understanding where each guy's coming from.

Speaker 3 So it's a very mature answer. I'm trying to get headlines, and you're doing a really good job.
I got a good job of answering it like an adult.

Speaker 3 Would you rather drink Coronas with Vin Diesel or tequila with Rock?

Speaker 8 So,

Speaker 8 straight spirits are tough. They make a night quick.
And I've always really wanted, because I'm a fan of the fast franchise. I've always really wanted to be invited to a barbecue.

Speaker 8 And I know I don't, I have to be grateful for what I have and not for what I want. And being invited into the fast franchise, especially to play at Toreto, was man, that's an honor.

Speaker 8 But damn it, I was pissed when I wasn't in the barbecue because I've always wanted to be in a fast barbecue. That

Speaker 8 symbol of family and camaraderie at the end when everybody's drinking, you know, it's just, I wanted to be involved.

Speaker 8 So because for that that reason alone, and the fact that, you know, spirits get you there quicker. So, and I've seen Rock, he chugs tequila.

Speaker 8 I just, I don't know if I could go match for match with him. I think he just put me under the fence.
So, maybe I'd stick to a fast barbecue.

Speaker 1 Okay, good answer. Um, I have another headline grab.
Uh,

Speaker 1 you recently died from COVID. What was that like?

Speaker 8 Well, um,

Speaker 8 I would ask the person that wrote that piece of information. Uh, it's apparently

Speaker 8 they really make good animatronic robots. It's more than the Hall of the President stuff.
I mean, look at this. This is really real.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 I think that's a great exercise in

Speaker 8 fact-checking articles.

Speaker 1 Yes. Did you think that you were going to be able to do that?

Speaker 1 We all need to do

Speaker 1 it. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was your, what, what went, I mean, for people who don't know, there was just one of those stupid internet rumors that John Cena died from COVID. That's got to piss you off a little bit.

Speaker 8 No, no, it doesn't. Honestly, if anything, it just

Speaker 8 when someone see it's weird that you can take a piece of information like that and say stupid internet rumor i wish uh i wish more people would have um a perspective to cross-check and fact check and dive deeper for truthful information because there's so many things out there that might fall into the classification of stupid internet rumors but when it's something as silly as as that that we know isn't true now because I'm speaking to you in real time on this show,

Speaker 8 I think it's a nice exercise and to don't believe everything you read.

Speaker 3 Was there a small part of you that wanted to just kind of go along with it for a day just to get some of the tributes out there, just so you can see all the nice things people might say and then be like, there's

Speaker 8 a small part of me that wanted to end my existence? The answer to that is a resounding no.

Speaker 1 I love the gift of life, and

Speaker 8 I want to have the gift as long as I possibly can.

Speaker 3 Not to end your existence, but to just kind of not say anything about the rumor being fake for a day.

Speaker 1 What, and

Speaker 8 where is the good in that?

Speaker 1 I guess

Speaker 3 people would be like, man, I love John Cena. He's such a great guy.

Speaker 1 Remember that time, people would share anecdotes. Like I would have tweeted, remember that time John Cena wanted to fuck my belly button? Man, I missed that guy.

Speaker 8 I know you guys are trying to have some fun.

Speaker 8 I just lost a really close friend two days ago.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 8 No, no, that's cool. So when I say something like that and you take the smile off your face, loss is a really tough thing.

Speaker 8 And trust me, I'll joke about a lot of stuff, especially if you watch Peacemaker, I'll joke about a ton of stuff.

Speaker 8 But if you're trying to get headline grabs, I don't think especially at this point, at any point, at any point,

Speaker 8 the fragile nature of human life is a headline to grab. So I know what you're trying to do.

Speaker 8 I can't fault you for trying. But in taking a moment to reflect on the passing of a good close friend of mine,

Speaker 8 man, I just, I see things from a completely different perspective. I just don't think that's the right avenue for me to go down.

Speaker 1 John Cena just fucking threw us through the ring there. That was a hell of a.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I feel bad. Yeah.
No, no, you're right.

Speaker 8 Yo, yo, yo. Yo, first of all, don't feel bad.
And again, I think this is one of those things where

Speaker 8 nowadays,

Speaker 8 we walk into sensitive territory, right? And people get scared and they get defensive. And that's how arguments happen and nobody gets hurt.

Speaker 8 I get what you guys are saying.

Speaker 8 I totally do. You caught me at a time in my life where,

Speaker 8 you know,

Speaker 8 I'm going through some stuff and that's just not a path I want to take. That's not saying it's wrong.
That's not saying it can't be funny.

Speaker 8 And I think people need to maybe pump the brakes on comedy a little bit and be a little bit more, you know,

Speaker 8 understand that laughter is the best medicine. But I'm just saying in this case, right now, here.

Speaker 8 That's just not a path I want to go down.

Speaker 1 I hear you.

Speaker 8 It's just not a path I want to go down.

Speaker 3 I'm not funny anyway, so I won't even

Speaker 1 try to go down that route yeah let's let's transition it i'll transition

Speaker 1 especially just not for uh uh people to click on something to click on you're right you're right all right i'll transition us um so peacemaker like we said at the beginning go watch it hbo max january 13th the first three episodes are out then it's out every week

Speaker 1 transition by the way yeah yes i got you i got you um the the show looks like it is like you are being you you have a good sense of humor very funny moments, but then a very serious side.

Speaker 1 Is that like I'm always awed by actors who are able to switch back and forth between those two because I can't act, like none of us can act.

Speaker 1 Are you able to do that, you know, in the same day? Or is it something like, all right, I'm showing up today. Today I'm going to do some funny scenes.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow we're going to do some more serious scenes.

Speaker 8 Hey, man, you just sold yourself way short because in the same conversation we've had in what, 15 minutes, we had a laugh about about me wanting to fuck your belly button. Yep.

Speaker 8 And we just got really serious about the nature of mortality. So don't say you can't act and don't say you can't get serious and then have jokes.

Speaker 8 I think that's why people are drawn to vulnerable performances where someone can laugh and then someone can cry and then someone can get serious. We're doing it right now.

Speaker 8 This is happening in real time right now. And I'm dressed up like a damn BC superhero.

Speaker 1 Every time you put your hands up, it's funny.

Speaker 8 I'm just trying to get more of the costume in there. So, I mean, it's, and, and

Speaker 8 I hope this conversation you guys remember when we talk next time. Be like, yo, I remember when we did that Zoom and like, we did this and we laughed and you got serious for a minute.

Speaker 8 And those are, those are our best times of connection when we can let our guard down. And I hope your listeners have a, have a takeaway moment.
Maybe they, they engage in a conversation more than just

Speaker 8 the regular gossip fodder for for having a moment of three people just being real together. So you can do this because you just did it.

Speaker 8 We just laughed about your belly button and now we're just talking about something else serious. And then we're going back to talk about a TV show.
So you can do it. And that's what makes it fun.

Speaker 8 And that's what makes hopefully more people listen.

Speaker 3 I do wonder sometimes when actors,

Speaker 3 you know, they get into a very emotional, vulnerable place when they're doing certain scenes

Speaker 3 and whether or not that sticks with you.

Speaker 3 after you're done with your day at work, you go home, you've just put yourself in a really tough place being able to access a part of your mind and a part of your body where you're able to show, like, okay, you're crying, you're doing all this stuff in front of, you know, maybe dozens of people that are working with you.

Speaker 3 That's got to affect you probably for the rest of the day. I would imagine.
You can't just like snap your fingers, go home, everything's great. Or maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 8 No, I think it's, so I think it's different for everybody,

Speaker 8 which

Speaker 8 my thing is, it just takes a lot out of you. Just like going out of the ramp on the WWE.

Speaker 8 I go out there a ball of excitement and energy, and I'm, you know, at a peak for 25 minutes, and I come back, and I got nothing left.

Speaker 8 It's like the Seeger song, every ounce of energy you try to give away. It's the same thing when you're doing it on a more nuanced scale.
You're just exhausted.

Speaker 8 So I think it takes, at least for me, it takes good people around me who support and understand what I'm trying to do, who could understand if I come home exhausted, it's nothing that they did.

Speaker 8 They didn't affect my mood. They didn't affect my trajectory and just kind of let me either be in it or vent to them or take my own process to get to get back to CELA.

Speaker 8 But it's the same as going out in front of a sold-out house, you know, giving every ounce of energy you got and coming back and just being, you got nothing left. It's the same process.

Speaker 8 It's just over the 10, 12, 14 hour day.

Speaker 1 I saw a quote from you recently.

Speaker 1 You said that, you know, you'll always have a tie to WWE and like, you know, maybe WrestleMania 38, you're not going to be back, but you, you're a wrestler and you feel that and it's part of your family.

Speaker 8 Oh, man, I need, I'm a WWE superstar.

Speaker 1 You are.

Speaker 8 If you've seen any of my matches, you know I'm not a wrestler.

Speaker 1 No, you're a a superstar. Have you?

Speaker 1 So I'm a child of the attitude era. I loved it.

Speaker 8 So I killed it for you, and I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. That's okay.

Speaker 1 Have you watched AEW at all? Do you think that it's good for like competition is good here in terms of both products are just going to raise each other up?

Speaker 1 Because that was a lot of the attitude era was there was competition and everything got better. And it was, you know, for a lot of people like myself, the glory days of wrestling.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I haven't watched AEW.

Speaker 8 Do do i think competition is good i think competition is great there's internal competition within wwe about performers wanting to be champion or performers wanting to be headliners i think whenever there is more buzz around an industry it's good for the industry and it forces

Speaker 8 uh it forces all of us to be at our best because you know if you're not you're gonna your segment's not going to be good your performance is not going to be good you may not have a future with the company you're with and repeated bad segments from the group means the company ain't going to be good which means the the competition will succeed.

Speaker 8 So I think competition brings out the best of us.

Speaker 8 I mean, we, I, for all time going out there as a performer, I always wanted to do the best I could possibly do and certainly, you know, set the tone for wanting to be the best show between Ron and SmackDown and certainly have eyes on the segments that I was on.

Speaker 8 I was fueled by a sense of internal competition.

Speaker 8 not knowing what it's like now to be essentially in a market with a lot of different options. There's a lot of places to watch sports entertainment now.

Speaker 8 But that would only, for me, that would only fuel me even more to be the best that I can be.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was checking out your social media before this interview to see what was getting you going. And I noticed that you follow 365,000 people on Twitter.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 3 That's a lot of people. Do you actually use Twitter? Do you actually go to your timeline?

Speaker 8 Yes, I use Twitter. I use Instagram.
It's tough to follow the timeline just because of the amount of people I follow. But

Speaker 8 I'm trying to learn more about the world.

Speaker 8 I just went into a rabbit hole following EDM dance culture and non-fungible tokens and also Twitch streamers because I know nothing about any of these avenues of the world. And there are,

Speaker 8 just like people may not know about WWE, like, oh, well, isn't that the fake stuff or this happens? But there's fandom to there and there's passion to there and there's performers and stories. So

Speaker 8 a lot of times we're explaining to people like, yo, check out how many people follow me.

Speaker 8 I'm really glad to say that I allow, or 364,000 people have allowed me to follow them. And I'm learning a little bit about each and every person as I go.
And I try to remain as diverse as I can.

Speaker 8 And I know social media is not the most positive place. So it's always, it's also an exercise in developing thick skin.

Speaker 8 I really enjoy it. Twitter only lets you follow a thousand people a day.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So do you do that yourself? Do you go through Twitter and you're, you're selecting who you follow?

Speaker 8 It is boring and it is arduous.

Speaker 8 And, but the end product to me is I get a, I get a a greater scope of what's going on and I can learn some stuff about stuff I don't know about and hopefully create a community.

Speaker 8 If you've seen the people I follow on Twitter, hopefully maybe you've seen some of the messages I send. And I try to send some stuff that like this interview, maybe will

Speaker 8 evoke some philosophical conversation. So if we can get folks from

Speaker 8 all across the world, from every different place and every different culture to...

Speaker 8 to start asking bigger and broader questions and start talking about some some philosophical stuff i don't know maybe just just maybe it can balance that social media out to a little bit more positive.

Speaker 3 What's one philosophical question that you've been asking yourself recently?

Speaker 8 Purpose. It origins around purpose.
And I think that that's a question that

Speaker 8 a lot of people throw that term around. And I think it's a really tough question to answer.
And

Speaker 8 my advice is just to try not to rush it. Try to just really, you really have to look into who you are and find out who you are and

Speaker 8 a clear sense of purpose. Man, really, it's like when you asked me, you know,

Speaker 8 you were very kind in saying you're John Cena.

Speaker 8 You can do anything you want. What do you choose? Well, a lot of things have to coincide with my values and certainly it has to fuel my purpose.

Speaker 8 So that's that just from philosophy, like not why are we here as a human species, but why are you here as a human being? Looking at that question, why are you here? And it could be anything.

Speaker 8 And a lot of times people come up with an answer that's really fun for other people to hear that isn't really the answer that that is the real answer.

Speaker 1 And I think taking an honest look at ourselves and and maybe asking ourselves that question of why are we here that's a heck of a start all right so john we appreciate you coming on ever go check out peacemaker on uh hbo max my last question was simply it's january most people are trying to diet and get in shape i i literally wrote this down how how do you get your muscles to look so awesome

Speaker 8 that

Speaker 8 that is a piece of dialogue that should be in peacemaker and i'm going to tell james gunn to write that into season two i mean need it need the tips how do how do you you get them to look so awesome?

Speaker 8 It's the tips are easy. The application is hard.

Speaker 8 Make good choices and be consistent. And that's absolutely it.
Don't make it a January diet. Make it a lifestyle change.
Make good choices and be consistent. That's it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, when you say that, it's like I go through my Rolodex in my brain. I'm like, I am.
So inconsistent and I make terrible choices.

Speaker 3 What if you just get, yeah, what if you're consistently inconsistent? So you go on the crash diets and then you get like one, you get like a week per month where your muscles look really good.

Speaker 3 And then the other three weeks, they look like crap.

Speaker 8 Well, then you find you find yourself in a bit of a conundrum where you may look good, but on the inside, you may be really unhealthy.

Speaker 8 So there's also that balance you got to find, too.

Speaker 1 That's a great tip. All right.
WWE superstar John Cena and also star of Peacemaker Out January 13th, HBO Max.

Speaker 8 Guys, thank you for having the patience to get a little deep with me today. And also thank you for helping me process the loss of a close friend.
The guy, his name is Ronnie Bullington.

Speaker 8 He drove my tour bus for 12 years.

Speaker 8 We lost him on Sunday.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 he is an honorary member of the Cena family, having spent over 10 Christmases at my house, forming wonderful bonds with my mom, my whole family.

Speaker 8 My nieces loved him. I'll always love him, but we were

Speaker 8 open and vulnerable men. We talked openly with each other.
He knew I loved him. I I knew he loved me.

Speaker 8 The world was a better place with him in it, and we're going to miss him. So thanks for giving me a second to reflect on that.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. It's a beautiful message.

Speaker 1 And I think it's, I mean, I'm very, very sorry for your loss because, you know, we work in an industry where we work long hours with people and the people you work with really do become your family.

Speaker 1 And it's a bond that.

Speaker 1 Maybe people who work nine to five don't fully understand sometimes. But when you grind those late hours, it's more than just co-workers.

Speaker 8 Yeah, especially as a a traveling entertainer. You know,

Speaker 8 he's pretty much my roommate for 12 years. So we had a, man, we had a wonderful time.
And I'm looking back on our time with a lot of smiles.

Speaker 8 And my heart hurts, but it's filled with joy at the same time knowing that he was in my life. So I'm a better man for it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Someone told me last time I went through a tough experience like that.
You'll start to,

Speaker 3 when you start, when you think about him, there'll be a time when you smile before you feel sad. And that might be six months from now, it might be a year from now.

Speaker 3 But once you reach that point, then you can kind of make a little bit of peace and start to have that be, you know, his memory is now a positive thing in your life.

Speaker 3 But hope, you know, all the best to you and your family.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 8 that's great advice. And like I said, just appreciate you guys.
So thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Thanks, John.

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Speaker 1 Colorado. Okay, we're going to wrap up our show.
We got our good friend Jersey Jerry back on the show. It is bring your lunch pail slash guys on chicks.

Speaker 1 So we're going to talk a lot of different questions.

Speaker 1 But let's begin with your Steelers.

Speaker 1 How are we feeling about the playoffs?

Speaker 6 I feel good. You know, I was just at my desk just sitting over there just dinking about stuff.
And

Speaker 6 I think this team could make a run. People laugh at me.
I put up a tweet today. I really think the Steelers could beat the Chiefs.
You know, I got laughed at, humiliated on Twitter.

Speaker 6 But I really believe it. If the defense steps up, and if they can contain,

Speaker 6 you know, Mahomes and Hill, Hill is not 100%, let's not forget. True.
And Kelsey.

Speaker 6 The Chiefs are due for a bad game, man. They really are just due for one.

Speaker 3 You know what the key of the game is? You got to heat Mahomes up. You got to heat him up.
Yep. You got to hit him.

Speaker 1 If you can heat him up, break him in half. Yeah.
Just agree.

Speaker 3 Make him think about you.

Speaker 3 That's when you run into problems with Mahomes, when he's not even thinking about the rush. When he starts thinking about it, he's liable to do weird stuff.

Speaker 6 Oh, exactly. And then for anybody who's been watching the NFL this year or the past

Speaker 1 three years,

Speaker 6 no, let's say three years, the past three years, the best defensive player in football has been TJ Watt. It's a fact.
I agree.

Speaker 1 Aaron Donald, too.

Speaker 1 This year's TJ Watt. He's my defensive player of the year.
Aaron Donald's win vote is very, very high. Yeah, you know I have a vote.

Speaker 6 I know you have a vote, but I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 6 you look at the numbers, even last year's numbers, TJ Watt beats him in five out of seven categories.

Speaker 1 You do have,

Speaker 1 you are such a die-hard Steelers fan.

Speaker 1 I knew that from like the second I met you because I think we were maybe an hour into our relationship and you were giving me stats about how TJ Watt beats Aaron Donald and all the important numbers.

Speaker 1 And that's a great fan characteristic to have. Just walk around with info in your head to get into debates.

Speaker 6 And no, and it's not really debatable because it's a real number.

Speaker 1 You close it.

Speaker 1 We watched Sunday night football. We were here in the studio.
We were all watching your stream. Yeah.
Confirm or deny, there were tears in your eyes.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was crying. Just a little.
I was crying. You know,

Speaker 6 when Herbert got the two-point conversion,

Speaker 6 I mean, I just started tearing up, and I'm like, this is it.

Speaker 6 This is how Ben's going to go out, and it's not fair. You know what I mean? And I'm so happy.
You know, I even donated to Carlson's charity. He has a bunch of charities.
I love that.

Speaker 6 I even donated 50 bucks to his charity.

Speaker 1 Ultimate fan move.

Speaker 6 Out of respect. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 I think the Bills build like an entire wing of a hospital for Andy Dalton.

Speaker 1 I think they save like a million children.

Speaker 3 Yeah, incredible.

Speaker 6 It's crazy, you know. But yeah, dude, like I said, Big Cat,

Speaker 6 I think this team is,

Speaker 6 you know, the story of the Steelers this year and even last year, they just find a way just to win. They just find a way to win.
And I think Tomlin does a good job of rallying the boys around him.

Speaker 6 And I wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of Steelers fans that will be like, oh, my God, I'll be so surprised if the Chiefs lose.
I won't be surprised. No.
I won't because they're due.

Speaker 6 They're due for a bad game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
I love the confidence.

Speaker 3 I like it too. When you were watching it on Sunday night, were you thinking, like, this is rigged? Did you actually think 100%?

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 3 I'm just curious to know because there was so much weird stuff going on during the game. Yeah.
I could see why somebody would be like, this isn't adding up right now.

Speaker 3 But from your perspective, why do you think the NFL, at the time, why did it feel like the NFL was out to get the Steelers?

Speaker 6 Because this is exactly why. I'll tell you this.

Speaker 6 When

Speaker 6 there was a part in the game where it was almost

Speaker 6 not impossible for it to the scores match up and be right.

Speaker 6 And then just how somehow, some way, in the fourth quarter, the most important quarter of a football game, the scores magically are going to line up.

Speaker 6 If this team gets a touchdown and a two-point conversion, it's like, wow,

Speaker 6 it's rigged. This is rigged for ratings.

Speaker 1 It's rigged for views. That does happen in football.
Overtime does happen.

Speaker 6 It does, but

Speaker 6 let's say this. How many times does it happen this year, you think?

Speaker 3 Overtime?

Speaker 1 The Steelers go in? Yeah, the Steelers tie together.

Speaker 5 We tie the game.

Speaker 6 But if you break down every single NFL game.

Speaker 1 Sunday?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, the overtime, there was, yeah, that game.

Speaker 6 No, we tied against the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 you went in overtime against the Ravens, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Ravens.

Speaker 6 But I'm saying, how many times would you say this year in total in NFL?

Speaker 3 I would, off the top of my head, I don't know, like seven? No, more than

Speaker 1 like 15. I was going to say

Speaker 1 maybe Jake will look up right now.

Speaker 1 I would say like 25? No, I'd say. They felt like one a week, maybe a couple extra.

Speaker 3 It did come down to the end, though. To be fair, there were two seconds left on the clock in overtime when that field goal went through.
And it seemed like the Chargers were content to get a tie.

Speaker 3 The Raiders were content to get a tie until that timeout just kind of like shook everything up real quick and kind of snapped people out of whatever fog they were in.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 see, I don't agree. I think they were going to try the field goal regardless.

Speaker 1 Do you know what's funny is the reason why the Steelers are in the playoffs is because of a tie.

Speaker 6 For sure, yeah.

Speaker 1 The ones that lost that game to the Lions.

Speaker 1 The Raiders and the Chargers would be in the playoffs. Good point, yeah.

Speaker 1 Ty saved them. Ty did save you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and

Speaker 6 I read a good stat today.

Speaker 6 Every team that the Chiefs lost to,

Speaker 6 can you name them or no?

Speaker 1 The Bills? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Chargers.

Speaker 3 Titans. Did the Browns beat them?

Speaker 3 Titans.

Speaker 1 What about the Ravens?

Speaker 1 The Bills, the Titans, the Ravens, the Chargers.

Speaker 6 Who beat all those teams?

Speaker 1 The Steelers. Steelers.

Speaker 6 The Steelers are 4-0 against those teams.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, they lost five games, though. The Bengals, did you beat the Bengals?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 6 No, we didn't beat that.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 We're 4-1.

Speaker 1 You didn't get to the end of the stat.

Speaker 1 That's okay. It happens.

Speaker 6 But we played good against all of them.

Speaker 1 4-1. That's an 80% chance you're going to win.
Yeah, exactly. If you do the...

Speaker 6 I don't know what you're doing. You know, these guys I'm getting my stats from lately, they're just not, they're just wrong stats.

Speaker 1 We're getting your stats from the stats.

Speaker 5 I mean, what about the stat I said the other day?

Speaker 1 It was a fake stat. He was like, like,

Speaker 1 Jerry was like, you know, Big Ben is the longest tenured quarterback of all time for a franchise. I was like, didn't Tom Brady play for the Patriots for 20 years? Yeah.
And it was just a fake stat.

Speaker 1 Who's just that guy?

Speaker 6 I mean, it's the hashtags on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Oh, like Steelers' stats?

Speaker 6 Yeah, like, yeah, I just put the hashtag Steelers and it just.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's making you look bad. It is.
And you're a smart guy. This is not funny.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's the fake news.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, it's definitely something's wrong.

Speaker 1 The Bengals, Bengals, like, that literally happened last week.

Speaker 6 I just read that on the hashtag Steelers.

Speaker 1 And the Steelers not only lost to him, they lost to him twice. Twice.

Speaker 6 It's just ridiculous. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, we're feel good.
I'm excited. Sunday night, we'll be there with you.
Yep. Tune in.

Speaker 6 Gambling kids.

Speaker 6 I just want to know who's going to be at this. Brendan won't be there.

Speaker 1 Cool. That was your question.

Speaker 3 You got a problem with Brendan? No, I just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't have a problem with him. I'm just.

Speaker 3 He's got bad vibes. It seems like there's been like, you've been hot and cold.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I mean, because

Speaker 6 it's just weird. Some days are good, some days are bad.
And now I'm at the point where I just don't want to even be around that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's all bad. Yeah, yeah.
Gotcha. All right, let's do some questions.
So lunch pail and guys on checks. Yep.
Oh, your mic's not on haunt.

Speaker 7 U.S. Postal Service mail carrier here.

Speaker 1 Yes, I wear an actual blue collar.

Speaker 7 Happened back during MLB season. I got some sick time coming to me, so I take two days.
Go to a day game and night game. Post a pic of me at a game on Instagram.

Speaker 7 Coworker screenshots the pic and sends it to the supervisors. Now I'm in hot water facing a two-year probation.
This is a dude I've had post-work beers with on multiple occasions.

Speaker 7 Question is, how to handle things with the dirtbag trader? With respect, proud union member local377.

Speaker 6 Yeah, this happens to guys at my job all the time.

Speaker 6 It's in our, at least our rule book. If you call out sick, the supervision at any time can come to your house and check if you're still there.

Speaker 6 It's against their policy to pretty much go out if you're on sick time. You know what I mean? Go out in public or whatever, unless it's for a doctor's appointment.
You have to be home. So, I mean,

Speaker 6 I would say just don't put any, I mean, in the past, I've called out sick and done things, but I don't post it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so this is where it kind of comes into play, where his co-worker ratted him out. Yeah.
So it's not like the supervisor went to his house while he wasn't there. Yeah.
Got him in trouble.

Speaker 3 Like that's kind of a snitch.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we got a man card. Man law.

Speaker 6 I think my unions a little different. We wear we wear stickers all over our hard hats to say we don't work with rats.
And sounds like this guy works with rats.

Speaker 3 Gotta flush him out. Gotta set a trap up.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 7 Hey guys, PFT got me into this situation. So y'all are responsible for getting me out of it.

Speaker 7 My husband has trained our three-year-old daughter to say, you're absolutely right, boom, instead of a simple yes, almost exclusively.

Speaker 7 It's to the point that when anyone asks her a yes or no question, she replies with, you're absolutely right, boom, including her first dentist appointment, her grandparents, Santa at the mall, etc.

Speaker 7 I've got about six months until she goes to preschool.

Speaker 1 Send help. No, that's a football gal.

Speaker 3 This is awesome. You're absolutely right, Boom.
That's a good thing. It must sound so cute to hear a kid say it, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I never heard a kid say that. Yeah, that's got to be the cutest thing ever.
Maybe send us a video, email it.

Speaker 1 We don't want to put you on blast, but it would be nice to see because that's very funny.

Speaker 3 That's the best way to get her to stop saying it is for you to take a video of it and then for you to share it online.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. By the way, Jake got us most overtime games in NFL regular season history, 25 in 2002.
This year was fourth most with 21. Wow, it's a lot.
So 21 overtime games. So it happens.

Speaker 1 It happens. But it's rigged.

Speaker 3 Was it only two ties? How many ties were there? There's only one. Just one?

Speaker 1 Just one. Steelers.
Yeah, Steelers.

Speaker 6 Did the Steelers? No, they didn't tie last year.

Speaker 1 All right, next question.

Speaker 7 Hey, Jersey Jerry. When I was at work, I had a co-worker throw a can full speed at my head and then go ballistic, all because I called him by his name.

Speaker 7 How do I proceed to build my relationship with him and coexist?

Speaker 1 Tough one. Yeah, it's a tough one.

Speaker 6 I don't know who this is is about, but I would just say for now, I'd just say, you know, stay away. Everybody deserves a second chance in life.
You know what I mean? Everybody.

Speaker 6 And for a guy like me, I've had multiple chances, you know, to turn my life around. I'd say give this guy a chance and let him prove everybody wrong and get the help he needs.

Speaker 6 And then maybe down the line, you know, you hear stories of people hating each other for years. And then one day something clicks and they become best friends, you know.

Speaker 6 So I could see a scenario like that happening here.

Speaker 1 Also, sounds like,

Speaker 1 again, we don't know who we're talking about here, but sounds like it might be a little fallback plan being in, you know, major leagues. Sounds like he's got a cannon.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I would also just add that one day you might look back at this and actually see this as being one of the most important days of your life

Speaker 3 where it's like, hey,

Speaker 3 we both got to grow from this and we came back so much stronger.

Speaker 6 I wouldn't be surprised if in a year these guys are,

Speaker 6 I'd say, you know, going on vacation together with their families.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know what this is about?

Speaker 1 I think this is the office storyline with Andy Bernard when he had to go to management training.

Speaker 3 And when he punched a hole in the wall.

Speaker 1 Anger management training.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You know what? That's when

Speaker 1 you came back.

Speaker 3 You tried to trick us on this one.

Speaker 1 You stopped going by the Nard dog. You just went by Andy.

Speaker 3 I just thought it was interesting that, you know, Hank. Oh, sorry.
I was going to. Okay.
Not name names.

Speaker 3 Where was Hank? That's all I'm saying. Hank

Speaker 3 prevented this from happening. Well, it was

Speaker 1 10 a.m.

Speaker 3 Hank. Hank would have been there.
Hashtag where was Hank?

Speaker 1 Where was Hank?

Speaker 7 What's up, boys? I'm quitting my current job that is strictly commission-based. But I've heard from other coworkers that quit that they don't get paid for this.
Okay, he wrote this wrong.

Speaker 7 I've heard from other co-workers that quit that they didn't get paid for the sales they had made during the pay period they quit in.

Speaker 7 My boss even said, in reference to a girl that quit after vacation, we knew she was quitting, so we didn't pay her. I get paid on the 20th, and it'll be about $1,700.
Any advice on what I should do?

Speaker 7 Thanks, Big Cat, PFT, Honk, my boy Billy, and Jerry in advance.

Speaker 1 Uh-um, it sounds like you got to wait till the 20th. Well, this is pretty easy.

Speaker 3 But then you run into the situation where you just put off your next check that you're not going to be able to do.

Speaker 1 Stop working. Stop working, but stay at your job.
Physically stay there.

Speaker 3 Like show up to work.

Speaker 1 Actually, what you should do is you should take vacation, because I'm sure it's January. You know, it's January, so you've probably got a lot.
Yep. Take a vacation

Speaker 1 from the 12th to the 20th. Show up, quit,

Speaker 1 get your check.

Speaker 3 I also think that all you need to do here is just send a letter that you can even write it yourself, but then like make a fake name at the end and then put attorney at law at the end.

Speaker 3 And all they need to see is like, oh, this person knows a lawyer. Okay.
Because by law, they have to pay you.

Speaker 3 Of course, yeah. You've earned that money already.
They're not doing you a favor by giving you the money that you've earned.

Speaker 3 You're entitled to that legally.

Speaker 1 So it's fucked up that they... That's fucked up.

Speaker 3 Just threaten them with... Legal recourse or just let the person know that you are in touch with the lawyer, that you are familiar with your rights.

Speaker 1 rights hit us back with the name of the company jersey jerry will do a rant for you oh yeah i will he'll get in his car and he'll fucking blast these i will i put people out of business that's just what i do jiffy lube's never been the same nope nope look at their stuff that was very funny talking about the air filter is that true yeah they always try to get you always

Speaker 3 Sup, fellas, question is for Jerry.

Speaker 7 What's your opinion on the Elevators Technician Union? I'm currently second on the list and been waiting on a call since July of last year. Any advice would be helpful?

Speaker 6 One of of the best unions there is, Elevator Union. Really? Biggest money you can make.
One of the best unions there is.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 6 Yep.

Speaker 6 Like this guy's first year,

Speaker 6 he'll easily make probably $120, $125, first year. I mean, you're talking about guys that make over $200, $250 a year.

Speaker 1 Do you think people in the Elevators Union, do you think they just never take the stairs out of principal?

Speaker 6 I would assume so, yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. I would.
If they see a set of stairs, they're like, no.

Speaker 3 Either that or they know all the dirty shit that goes into the elevator maintenance and they know the buildings to not take the elevator.

Speaker 3 So if you see an elevator repair guy taking the stairs, you follow that guy. It's like the people that wear the bomb shirts that say like, bomb technician, if you see me sprinting away, run with me.

Speaker 1 It is funny to think like stairs are, you know, like stairs were newspapers, elevators are internet. Yep.
Just fucking out of business.

Speaker 3 Now, if you're in the elevator union, are you certified to work on both Otis and Thross and Krupp units, or is that just one?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I wouldn't know.

Speaker 6 I was never in the union. I never had friends in the union, but I've heard stories about friends' friends and friends' family members in the union.

Speaker 6 They make a lot, a lot of money.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I got a friend that got into the elevator union, had a party, threw like a giant party once they got the news they were in, because you're set for life.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, at that point.

Speaker 6 And he's probably well off right now.

Speaker 3 He's doing good right now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I love that.

Speaker 3 My great-grandfather was an elevator guy. Yeah, he one fell on his head, killed him.

Speaker 6 You know, I like Barstool. I like everything this company company does.

Speaker 6 I still got those thoughts, though.

Speaker 3 What? Going back? Union?

Speaker 6 Still got those thoughts.

Speaker 1 We could unionize.

Speaker 6 I don't know if Dave doesn't like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 As a joke. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Billy, go ahead.

Speaker 7 Last one. This is more of a question.

Speaker 7 If the Steelers lose Sunday, what was my other one?

Speaker 1 This one's specifically a question for

Speaker 1 Jerry.

Speaker 7 If the Steelers lose Sunday, would Jerry do a live stream of him doing a sink full of dishes?

Speaker 1 Oh. If they lose.
No, if they win. Yeah, I think that's that's that's

Speaker 1 so if you don't know Jerry's Jerry's

Speaker 1 internet stardom started with Blake Bortles, who's a very good friend of ours, ruining the Steelers season. And Jerry was screaming at his mom, you won't find me doing nothing,

Speaker 1 no dishes, no nothing. You'll find me hanging from the ceiling.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 I think if the the Steelers win the Super Bowl, then you do dishes for a week.

Speaker 6 Oh, I do dishes for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 Did you do any dishes that week?

Speaker 6 I probably did that week because my mom would have just snapped on me.

Speaker 1 But I definitely. So it was an empty threat.
Yeah. I definitely didn't do them that day, though.
I'll be honest.

Speaker 6 I'll be honest. But definitely during that week.
You know, I cook a lot.

Speaker 1 So your mom, you and your mom had like a stare down, a game of chicken. Like, will Jerry kill himself or will he do the dishes for the day?

Speaker 6 She was pissed. She was pissed that that got released.

Speaker 6 But yeah, I mean, I still go crazy, man.

Speaker 6 I try not to let myself get to that point anymore. But

Speaker 3 just cry during

Speaker 1 the colours.

Speaker 3 We do upstairs.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 Out of respect, I try to calm it down.

Speaker 1 In the gambling cave, you go crazy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because I'm not home, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 But like, even if you notice in the live video, I was trying to stay quiet for the most part because I didn't want her coming downstairs and just snapping.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Do you make you make bargains with the universe going into games? Like, you know, just telling them

Speaker 3 I'll do this

Speaker 1 if we can just pull off this

Speaker 3 one last win.

Speaker 6 Like, my dream, like,

Speaker 6 if I could have one dream and one thing come true,

Speaker 6 it wouldn't be for me to be a millionaire. It wouldn't be for my family to be set for the rest of their life.

Speaker 6 It would be for Big Ben to go out like the bus did with a ring. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 I'd love that. I'd do anything.
I'd do anything for that. Anything.

Speaker 1 Beautiful.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Jerry, thank you.
Good luck. Sunday night, we'll be with you.
Let's do numbers. Let's guess numbers.
Yeah, 66. What do you not...
How do you not

Speaker 1 eight?

Speaker 3 Seven?

Speaker 1 No. 66.
Okay. Six.

Speaker 3 Would this be their seventh title, too?

Speaker 1 Yeah. So seventh seed.

Speaker 6 Big Ben, you know, a sign that I had.

Speaker 6 Last time they won, they were the sixth seed. Yeah.
This time is the seventh seed.

Speaker 6 Steelers have six rings. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Number seven, Big Ben, seven Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 Seventh seed.

Speaker 3 Seven seed. Seven seed, number seven

Speaker 3 on the uniform.

Speaker 1 What's the day of the Super Bowl? What's the date?

Speaker 3 February 7th.

Speaker 1 No. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 I know. I just made that one up.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 I'll go seven.

Speaker 5 Do I need to be suspended? I'll leave it up to the committee. I think that's a good question.

Speaker 3 Jake, you don't self-report. No, you can't self-impose punishments.
That's what I did last week. Yeah, no.
Yeah, no, you have to.

Speaker 1 You have to

Speaker 1 notes app. Notes App drawing.
No, no, no. Just Just notes up.
Just notes app.

Speaker 1 We've suspended enough people today.

Speaker 1 Memes?

Speaker 3 Three. 44.

Speaker 5 Notes app tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Doesn't count. Another redraw.
42.

Speaker 1 42 almost got up there. I'm seeing 69.
If this is seven now after that false start, I'm putting everything on the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's one.

Speaker 3 What is that? Is that seven?

Speaker 1 It's a one.

Speaker 1 It's a one. Number one, Jerry, you're number one.

Speaker 1 All right. See everyone on Friday.

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Speaker 3 Today's another day to find you

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Speaker 3 I'll be coming for your love, okay.

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