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Speaker 1 our good friend Julian Edelman is back. We watched Tuesday night football with him.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take presented by Tostitos, the official chip and dip of the NFL. Today is Wednesday, December 22nd.

Speaker 1 And I'm not going to say the Washington football team is dead because they're not dead.

Speaker 4 We still control our own destiny.

Speaker 1 They're on life support.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was bad. It was bad tonight.
Garrett Gilbert played well, though, considering the situation he was put in.

Speaker 1 Yes, given the circle on a curve.

Speaker 4 I would like to actually agree with Philadelphia Eagles fans on something. I think Philadelphia Eagles fans were absolutely right that this game should not have been played tonight.

Speaker 4 It should have been played on Sunday.

Speaker 4 The weather would have been totally different. Wet ball tonight.
Wet ball. Missed throws by Garrett Gilbert.

Speaker 4 The refs missed a really bad roughing to pass a call, which Tom Brady would have gotten, according to Julian Edelman, who watched it live with us.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was

Speaker 4 the real turning point in the game was that first drive of the third quarter, where they marched down the field.

Speaker 4 And in about two minutes into the second half, I was like, this team defense is completely ghastly.

Speaker 1 They were. They were hands on hips, no pass rush

Speaker 1 when the Eagles marched down the field. Now, Jules is here, so we're going to, we've done this a few times to much much acclaim, critical acclaim.

Speaker 1 The guest is Julian Edelman. He watched the games with us.
We hung out.

Speaker 1 Wet ball expert, Julian Edelman. What do you do with a wet ball? Like, really wet.

Speaker 1 It doesn't look really wet. It was really wet.
It was at some point.

Speaker 4 On Sunday, it was really dry. It was wet.

Speaker 1 It was a trendial downpour. Okay.

Speaker 1 But in that case, you take off the plastic gloves and you got to put on the leather gloves or you go barehand.

Speaker 1 A lot of guys will go barehand, but when you have those plastic gloves that are tacky with like a regular dry ball, when you have them with water, they're just absolute slick.

Speaker 1 So you got to go to leather glove.

Speaker 4 It's not like you, there are certain goalie gloves in soccer I know that you put a little bit of water on, you get it a little bit wet and they get stickier.

Speaker 1 They get tacky, yeah. Depending on how

Speaker 1 those aren't plastic, though, those are like felt weird shit. They're like,

Speaker 1 Love talk, bro. Oh, yeah, those ones.
Yeah, nah. We don't do that one.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 what was your biggest takeaway from? So

Speaker 1 the washington football team like they decimated they didn't have their quarterbacks yeah they didn't have both of their quarterbacks garrick gilbert spot start like you said pft i think he did okay given the circumstances for the eagles though i i don't know what to make of jalen hurts because there are times when i'm like he's not the guy but nights like tonight it feels like he has a command of the offense and they do they've they've i've given nick siriani credit like it feels like he has molded his offense to fit Jalen Hurts and what he does best, and they did it well tonight.

Speaker 1 Thoughts?

Speaker 1 I mean, I can agree with that with some sort,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 you take a look at this, and they turned the ball over twice early in the game. They got in a 10-point hole, and

Speaker 1 thankfully they were playing the Redskins.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, PFT, but

Speaker 1 they had 23 guys on the COVID list. They got a guy starting at quarterback that's in his third day in the uniform.
So

Speaker 1 this isn't like something to look at like Philadelphia and say, hey,

Speaker 1 they look pretty good. I mean, they played the way they should have in the second half against a decimated Washington football team.
And, you know, Jalen Hurts,

Speaker 1 he's going to do what he did tonight. He's going to make some plays where you're like, you should hold on to the ball.
Let's have ball security in the pocket.

Speaker 1 He's going to make some plays where he threw the interception, and then he's going to make some really good plays with his legs.

Speaker 1 He's going to run around, create a second play, and hit guys down the field. And

Speaker 1 he's shown us that he does that consistently. But, I mean,

Speaker 1 I just don't think

Speaker 1 that's like a long-lasting plan. Okay, so now I have a question because Eagles fans listening to this right now are going to be like, Jules is a hater.
No, I.

Speaker 1 Because they lost in the Super Bowl to the Eagles. But you didn't play in that Super Bowl.
I didn't play. So do you have any residual hate for that Super Bowl? Where is this coming from?

Speaker 1 Absolutely not. Actually, in 2009, I went to a pop orner banquet in Philadelphia.
Oh, okay. Had a great time there.
So you have ties to the city. So you have ties to the city.

Speaker 4 So you could play quarterback for Nick Siriani next year, maybe, instead of Matt Ryan.

Speaker 1 People will put you on a short list of, you know, who's got ties to the city? Rocky's one of my favorite movies. Yep.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love Philadelphia. Don't pander.
They can smell that. I'm not, though.
They're tough people. I think they're very similar to Boston people.

Speaker 4 Say the word water. How much water was on the ball tonight?

Speaker 1 There was a lot of water. There was a lot lot of water.
There's a lot of water there.

Speaker 4 I look at this as just

Speaker 4 a flip game from last year. This was our Nate Sudfill game that the Eagles gave to us in week 17 or 16 last year.

Speaker 1 So we're just giving it back to the city.

Speaker 4 Sharing is caring. It's going to be tough for the football team to move forward after this, especially, like we said, they're

Speaker 1 playoff rankings

Speaker 1 for the NFC? Yeah,

Speaker 1 does Philly have a shot now? Yeah, yeah, they have a shot for sure. They're what, eight and seven now?

Speaker 1 They're seven and and seven. Or seven and seven? No, eight and eight.
Seven and no, hold on. Seven and eight.
Pull it up. I'm pretty sure they're seven and seven.
They're all professional analysts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're professional analysts. I'm almost positive.
Yeah, they're seven and seven. So the playoff picture in the NFC,

Speaker 1 like I said, the Washington football team is not dead, but they're on life support because the problem they run into, and for anyone who shut the podcast off, right at any Eagles fans that shut the podcast off at the moment I said the Saints beat the Eagles, and then I corrected myself like three minutes later.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everyone who tweeted me that. The Eagles have the tiebreaker over the Saints.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, for the Washington football team, the Saints have the tiebreaker over the Washington football team. So they are now in 10th.
Washington football team's done.

Speaker 1 They're in 10th. They have two teams that are ahead of them, and both those teams have the tiebreaker.

Speaker 4 All I want is just the playoffs. I don't ask for like, if we make the playoffs two years in a row, as far as I'm concerned, that's a dynasty in D.C.
That's that's close.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like the direction that Washington's going in. You know, Ron Rivera's got this team playing with like nobody.
They don't have any of

Speaker 1 one starting defensive lineman from week one. They're decimated everywhere.
They didn't have Heineke, and they were rolling with something kind of special with him a couple weeks in a row.

Speaker 1 I like Heineke.

Speaker 1 I like what they got going forward. They have like a more disciplined football team than they've had in a long time, I feel.
And that's what you get with Ron Rivera.

Speaker 1 I just think when they get the pieces,

Speaker 1 they need a lot more pieces to start feeding that team. They just don't have certain parts of the team that

Speaker 1 Ron Rivera needs those guys in.

Speaker 1 Chase Young got hurt early. That's like a big blow.
Who's going to be the defensive captain? He's a big defensive guy.

Speaker 1 And then quarterback is Heineking in the future. But I think they have more direction than Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 I just think Philadelphia is more athletic.

Speaker 1 I think the Eagles have a very good shot of getting to the playoffs. They play the Giants next week, then they play the Washington football team again.

Speaker 1 And then in week 18, they have the Cowboys who I threw the theory out that, well, they got smoked by him earlier this year, but I threw the theory out.

Speaker 1 If the Cowboys are set in their playoff spot, which they probably will be because they're going to win the NFC East. They're going to sit Dak.

Speaker 1 They might sit Dak because his calf has been, it's clearly like lingering.

Speaker 1 So who are the remaining three? So they have the Giants next week

Speaker 1 at home. That's dub.
Then they go to the Washington football team. Then they have the Cowboys at home.
So

Speaker 1 they could absolutely run the stretch here.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I'm a believer in the Eagles in a different way, like, because I just think that if a team can figure out, like, this is what we do, and this is what we're going to do every game, like, they just run it down people's throats.

Speaker 1 Their offensive line is awesome, and they just run it, run it, run it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel I can get you somewhere when they know what they want to do.
And they've done it pretty well against a lot of teams recently.

Speaker 1 I'm pro Eagles.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, they could sneak in. You never know what that NFC East.
I mean, they're always beating each other up.

Speaker 1 It's very hard to get a sweep in that division. I mean, so going into these last games, they may have a shot.

Speaker 4 I think Jules is talking about the macro versus the micro. So this year,

Speaker 4 at the moment, the Eagles are trending in a better direction than the football team is. But you're talking about the future of the organization.

Speaker 1 I think the future of the organization is looking in an upward trajectory for Washington. I believe in Ron Rivera.
I mean,

Speaker 1 he had the Carolina Panthers, you know, a pretty good football team for a long time. They were making the playoffs yearly.
And I just think the kind of guy he is, he's a very well-thought-out guy.

Speaker 1 He's been around the game forever. He's coached with a bunch of amazing coaches.
So he's had an experience at that level of rebuilding an organization. I just don't know if, you know,

Speaker 1 Siriani,

Speaker 1 I don't know yet. He's still too early, but it's been kind of up and down, up and down

Speaker 1 with his team. And I don't know if they necessarily have the horses that they actually want.
Like, do they want Jalen Hurts? Do they not want Jalen Hurts? Well,

Speaker 1 let me throw this out there. They have three first-round picks.
That's going to be huge. That's so like that to me, like the Eagles are building a baseline.

Speaker 1 And it's like, if you can add three first-round picks, how,

Speaker 1 from like a perspective of when you're a veteran later in your career, first-round picks, like, do you know right away? Do you know the first practice?

Speaker 1 Like, okay, this guy's going to help us right away, or this isn't going to work out? Like, do you, can you tell? Can guys tell almost instantly?

Speaker 1 You see something.

Speaker 1 Like, they're usually really raw.

Speaker 1 I mean, we didn't have a lot of first-round picks when I was. And it was late, yeah.
You know, with the Patriots, I think we traded out. We had, you know, Nikhil Harry.

Speaker 1 We had, uh, we the Florida. Who was the Florida D lineman that he was coming off a couple ACOs, though? So he never kind of panned out.

Speaker 4 You got Malcolm Brown in the first round?

Speaker 1 Malcolm Brown. He was a good football player.
There's always one, you see a play in practice where you're like, oh, yep, that's a first round, or whether it's some sort of explosiveness, some sort of

Speaker 1 how high a guy can jump or like an instinctive play where you know the guy doesn't know any material. He doesn't know the material.
He has to, like early on in camps, he doesn't know his material.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know what the offense is doing, but somehow makes a crazy play, an athletic play. You see that with the first-round talent sometimes.
You can call it out.

Speaker 4 What about with a rookie wide receiver?

Speaker 4 What's one thing that you see in a guy that gets to the league and they have, like, what do they have to work on, even if they're the most athletic freak coming out of college?

Speaker 4 What's the one thing that it's like, it's going to take you a couple years to master this particular player?

Speaker 1 Well, it's, I mean, I think that's been changing. I mean, we're seeing that with Jefferson

Speaker 1 in Minnesota. You're seeing that with like Debo Samuel.
You saw that with, you know, Medcalf in his first couple years. A lot of these guys,

Speaker 1 there's so much more information now for younger players on how to train, what kind of drills to train, what ball drills to do.

Speaker 1 And like with the game, how it's changed in college with the throwing and like how how defenses are playing, how offenses it's evolved to the NFL.

Speaker 1 So I think that receivers are actually transitioning at a higher rate in these last five, six years than they have ever before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you can see it by, and this is totally anecdotal, but it feels like the first round has more receivers being picked than it has been in the past.

Speaker 4 Well, you also mentioned two guys in particular. You said Metcalf and Jefferson.

Speaker 4 I feel like we've talked a lot on this show about how Eagles fans are like, I can't believe that we didn't take Jefferson and we got Rager instead.

Speaker 4 And we've kind of lost the track of, I can't believe that we took Arthega Whiteside and not DK Metcalf, which is another one that they've done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Arthega Whiteside is fun to say.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is Arthega Whiteside. Right.
Barcelona. But so this might be sounding like sour grapes because the Eagles just beat the football team tonight.
So maybe it is.

Speaker 4 But is that something that you think like transitioning from college to the NFL for a wide receiver is really important to have in a good organization?

Speaker 4 Like, because those are two guys that were, you know, they were well thought of coming into the draft.

Speaker 1 And also they're quarterbacks. Yeah.
Yeah. You know what I mean? That's true.

Speaker 1 We all can say what we want to say about Kirk Cousins, but I mean, he knows how to distribute a football.

Speaker 1 And when you have a guy that is like Jefferson, I mean, just an absolute freak, he's found ways to get him the ball and got on the same level and developed a chemistry with him.

Speaker 1 Same with Russell and Medcalf. And,

Speaker 1 you know, these a lot of it has to do with the quarterback. Yeah.
I mean, most of it, because as a receiver, you're dependent on one person for all production. production, and that's a quarterback.

Speaker 1 You only go as far as how the quarterback can deliver you the ball, what you do to get in a relationship with the quarterback for him to want to throw you the ball.

Speaker 1 There's four or five other guys, six other guys in different personnel groups.

Speaker 1 So you're competing every day in practice for that with other guys, but it's also everything to make the quarterback comfortable to throw to you. Okay, so you talk about relationship.

Speaker 1 That's a good segue to the other game that happened. The Rams, Seahawks.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks got screwed. They got absolutely screwed.
That was a blatant pass interference.

Speaker 4 It was the Saints called all over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was insane. And then

Speaker 1 the insult to injury, they get called for

Speaker 1 whatever it is. I don't even know what the official, it wasn't taunting.
Kicking the ball.

Speaker 1 You kicked the ball out. Showing the ref up.
15 yards going the other way. Just brutal.

Speaker 1 Like the Seahawks are not, they weren't going to compete to get in the playoffs, but it's still, you want to win the games. You want to win the games in division.
And they got screwed.

Speaker 1 But I bring up relationships because we poke fun of Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford eating breakfast together every single morning. But obviously it works.
How much is that like media?

Speaker 1 Oh, they just love the story and they latch onto it.

Speaker 1 And how much is that actually very, very important where a quarterback and a wide receiver are like spending quality time off the field or, you know, to start the day in the facility?

Speaker 1 Like, how much does that matter on the field? I mean, I think it matters a lot.

Speaker 1 I don't know, you know, how far it was, you know, the speculation. We've just made it a big deal.
Yeah. It probably isn't even that big.

Speaker 4 Did you used to bring Tom Brady breakfast every day is what we're getting at?

Speaker 1 No, it was, you know, what he ate was, like, too expensive and wasn't at the facility.

Speaker 1 Did he, would you, if you asked him to go to breakfast, would he say no?

Speaker 1 No, he'd probably invite me over to his house so his chef could cook for us.

Speaker 4 No, he wouldn't have you like bring breakfast to him.

Speaker 1 No, he was always accommodating. He'd always be like, hey, babe, just come to the house.
You know, we'll have some of my chef cook.

Speaker 1 yeah but but really like to big cat's question is how much of that chemistry gets built in the stuff that you don't see on the practice field it's it's huge because when you can start to think like another man thinks or you you think you guys are just talking whether it's football or not then you learn mannerisms you learn you know what that what drives a guy and that that goes a long way because then you can adapt how you think or you can latch onto that and then you guys are starting to think the same you know and if you go out and you work together and you're talking football at you know if you're eating breakfast together you're probably sitting there talking about the either the practice before you know what's going to be installed for that day how do you think i should run that if it's a third down day you're eating on a thursday whatever hey what do you think you saw with with this db i watched the you know there's just constant football talk and and and it and it and it and it flows over to like just regular relationship talk you know family how's you doing that the more you care about someone the more you're gonna work harder for someone.

Speaker 1 And it goes vice versa for the quarterback. You know, once he likes you a little more, he's probably going to want to throw you the ball because there's a trust level.
Yeah. So,

Speaker 1 like, I've always wondered, so if you're a wide receiver, every wide receiver always thinks they're open, right? Like, that's just, they always think that they can beat their man.

Speaker 1 When a wide receiver says to their quarterback, I'm open, like, do you take that very seriously? Like, you won't say that unless it's like, hey, I'm open.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm open every time you need to get me the ball. I can beat him every time.
Or, like, is it something you don't burn? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, you can't say it and just be like, I would imagine Odell in every huddle is like, I'm open.

Speaker 1 Would you say that to Tom Brady when you weren't 100% like sure that you could beat your man on every play?

Speaker 1 I would tell, yeah, I would tell him the truth.

Speaker 1 You know, like, if I knew I was covered, I wouldn't go out there and,

Speaker 1 you know, the film doesn't lie. You don't want to be the guy that say I was open.
And then you go watch film as a team and

Speaker 1 you're blanketed. Right.
But

Speaker 4 it was never really like that.

Speaker 1 We were different. Trent Dilfer actually told a story recently that he said

Speaker 1 Shannon Sharp, one of the best qualities he had was that he was always 100% honest and right when he was on it. Like he would say, I'm open here, and he would always be right.
Like, always be right.

Speaker 1 This brings me back to a story.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we're sitting.

Speaker 1 I don't know what game it was. It was when Randy Moss was on the team.
And we're sitting.

Speaker 1 And Randy was sitting at the end of the bench.

Speaker 1 And Brady goes, hey. And I think Randy was a little pissed off.

Speaker 1 He wasn't balling out that game or whatever.

Speaker 1 And Brady goes, hey, Randy, were you open? And he was notoriously lonely. He wouldn't say anything.
He would just look at him. And he would go like this.

Speaker 1 Two figures.

Speaker 1 Two fingers up like a touchdown.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Every time he goes, yo, Randy, were you hoping? He'd just go, it would have been a touchdown.

Speaker 1 He wouldn't say anything. That's all he would do.
And then he would go back. Well, he's right, because it usually would be a touchdown.
And that's awesome.

Speaker 4 So when Randy was on the team, how much playing time were you getting on that team?

Speaker 1 Not much.

Speaker 4 You weren't getting a lot, but Welker was getting a lot of those catches underneath, right?

Speaker 1 In 2009, my rookie year, Welker, he was banged up at the beginning of the year. So me and Randy, week two, played together a bunch.

Speaker 1 And then Welker tours ACL at then, and then we played, you know, in a playoff game together a bunch. And then the next year he was there for like, I think, six, five weeks, six weeks.
We traded him.

Speaker 1 He got traded

Speaker 1 back to Minnesota. But,

Speaker 1 man, he was so fun to be around. He was so funny and just electric.
And the way you saw all the catches he made in practice. And he just was a character, man.

Speaker 4 Can you even say to Tom Brady, hey, I was open on that play while Randy Moss was double covered?

Speaker 4 Because Randy Moss in double coverage is more wide open than pretty much any receiver in single coverage.

Speaker 1 At that time, I didn't talk. Uh-huh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Randy Moss, Joey Galloway, you know, Wes Welker. I wasn't a...

Speaker 1 I was still a puppy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you never got caught having a forsom and then Tom Brady wouldn't throw you the ball anymore because he's like, hey, I don't approve of that lifestyle.

Speaker 4 Because that's what they're saying is happening in Seattle right now.

Speaker 1 What he means by they, he means him, PFTs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so DK Metcalf got his shit aired out by some thought who was like, oh, DK didn't make me sign an NDA, so I'm going to put this all over Snapchat and tell the world that he was asking me for a forsom.

Speaker 4 And now that news came out, now Russell doesn't pass him. I mean, he threw him the ball a few times tonight, but he's not taking the shots at him like he used to.
It's just a fact.

Speaker 4 If you look at his stats since that story came out, he's like punishing DK for being a red-blooded American male.

Speaker 1 Free DK. Hey.

Speaker 1 You know, I can only speak for myself. I don't know.

Speaker 4 How many forsoms have you had?

Speaker 1 And how many included Emma Dola?

Speaker 1 That's actually a fair question. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Philly, man, I think they got a shot. They got a shot.
Oh, no, I got you. Listen.

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Speaker 1 Christmas.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah, you gotta make it.
You gotta make it to have a great, like a pretty cool thing.

Speaker 1 It does feel cool to be like the game I was obsessed with playing and played like non-stop when I was like 20 years old. Could you imagine that meeting with Dr.
Dre, you know, rock star?

Speaker 4 Dr. Dre is sneaky, like filthy rich.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's filthy. He sold

Speaker 1 like a billion dollars or something. I think it was like 50s.
Dude. Was Dr.
Dre the one who, when the whole

Speaker 1 Aunt Becky scandal was going on, with like rich people paying for their kids to get college.

Speaker 1 He like posted a picture being like, My daughter got in on her own merits, and it was like in front of the Dr. Dre building at USC.

Speaker 1 I might have had that story wrong, but it's something like that.

Speaker 4 That's a great story to think about.

Speaker 4 I mean, Grista thought it was just a fantastic video game.

Speaker 1 I remember Brady built this insane house in LA

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 ended up selling it for a boatload of money, like 35 million or something. I don't know what to do.
Why'd you hear Belcher voice there? i don't know

Speaker 1 and so whatever it was a boatload of money and dr dre bought it and tore it up

Speaker 1 that's a baller he like he tore it down

Speaker 1 i actually it was like it's it was like the most beautiful house i ever seen but and dr dre like tore it up had like did some insane changes to it listen I actually kind of back up Dr.

Speaker 1 Dre because if you're crazy rich, like the ultimate cuck move is to live in another man's house.

Speaker 1 You gotta tear that fire.

Speaker 4 I'd rather live in Dr. Dre's house than Tom Brady's house.

Speaker 1 But I wouldn't want to live in an. Imagine living in a house built by another man.
No, good your body would feel.

Speaker 4 I would never. And like the foam roller.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady house your house. Yeah.
There's probably so many like foam rollers everywhere. You'll never catch me in an already built house.
It's like the Equinox Hotel, you know? You just go there.

Speaker 1 You got like bands everywhere. You have real alcohol.
Protein shake stations, avocado ice creams.

Speaker 4 So Big Cat's joking around and trying to distract us from the fact that the Bears also played.

Speaker 1 We're going to get to it. Monday Night was terrible.

Speaker 4 I know how your brain works. No, I was going to get to it.
From your perspective, Jules.

Speaker 1 The Bears.

Speaker 4 Because I've heard a few people say bad things about. We can talk about Matt Nagy in a second, but I've heard people say bad things about Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 I'm of the mindset that you can't judge anything that Justin Fields does this year because it's under the big dark gray cloud of Matt Nagy looming above him.

Speaker 4 They're using him in fucked up ways and not playing to his straight. He's got a cannon for an arm, and they're not really letting him push the the ball downfield that much.

Speaker 4 From your perspective, do you think

Speaker 4 you've liked what you've seen so far from Justin Fields or can you start to kind of feel that out?

Speaker 1 Be nice.

Speaker 1 That's tough. I mean,

Speaker 1 if you take a look at his film, you don't really see

Speaker 1 progression.

Speaker 1 You don't see

Speaker 1 as much progression as you would like to see.

Speaker 1 And that usually comes from the people that are developing them. Here's what

Speaker 1 I would agree with, you know,

Speaker 1 it just seems very toxic right now with the whole situation in Chicago, Matt Nagy and what's going on. Ryan Pace, yep.
Ted Phillips.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'll break down the whole, like, it's a shit show. I have one very important question about Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 How important is it for a quarterback, a rookie quarterback, to play with the ones all training camp and like going into the season?

Speaker 1 Because I think that's part of the calculation here that gets missed, that Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace in their fucking buffoonery had Andy Dalton doing the entire OTAs, the entire training camp with the ones, and never gave Justin Fields that chance to like, hey, dude, you're the future.

Speaker 1 Let's get you with everyone from day one on the same page going forward. How important is that? Or am I totally off?

Speaker 1 I mean, it's important if he's the guy right away and he comes in and you can see he's the guy right away. You got to let him go out and compete it out.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think he was. They just promised it to Andy Dalton.
See, I'm not there, so I can't answer that question. But

Speaker 1 if I were to see Andy Dalton play, that's telling me as a player that he's not ready. Right.
Justin Fields wasn't ready, and they wanted to maybe protect him from going out.

Speaker 1 You kill a guy's confidence. That's a huge.
So you're a believer in that because we've had our minds changed by Mark Schlerith like five years ago. What did Schlerth say?

Speaker 1 He was like, if you're the guy, you're the guy. And if there's only been one guy to really do that and come out on top, and that's Peyton Manning, like who had a terrible year.

Speaker 1 What they ended up doing, they fired the coach. They brought in Tony Dunn.
You know what I mean? Like they brought in a whole new thing and he

Speaker 1 lived that like eight, well, whatever how many interceptions he threw. Like that's like the real only example of throwing a guy in the fire.
But that's not saying that.

Speaker 1 I had like a kind of a shaky year at first. I mean, Justin Herbert kind of defied that last year.
Yeah, I just, his point was like, if you're the guy, you'll overcome anything.

Speaker 1 Like, that's part of being the guy is like having that dog in you.

Speaker 1 That's kind of true. Right.
So his whole point was like, you can't,

Speaker 1 like, of course, you can physically ruin a guy if he gets beat up to a point where he's got injuries now. But in terms of mentally, because I think we had the discussion, it was like five years ago.

Speaker 1 I was like, do guys then start, you know, they look at their line instead of looking looking through their progressions. He's like, then he was never going to be the guy.
If he was going to end up

Speaker 1 being worried about getting sacked before throwing it downfield, he was never going to be that guy anyway.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a, I mean, it's a kind of a check to develop. You got to develop, guys.
I mean, guys, their first year aren't going to be the same guy they are

Speaker 1 in the next year or the third year, like the jump that you get, like when you're around a facility and you know the routine.

Speaker 1 It's hard to just evaluate a guy guy the first day, and this is going to be our guy. Right.
I mean, there's not that many cases of that.

Speaker 4 Somebody should play a drinking game for the word guy. Guy.
I think we've said an old-time podcast record. You gotta be the guy.
If you're gonna be the guy, so I guess the question is:

Speaker 4 is the guy always inside you? Yeah, right. Was that guy always there? It's always there.
Or can

Speaker 1 just the guy's always in there.

Speaker 4 Can a slappy become a guy?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 the guy is always there. There's always a guy in your heart.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Right. So it better find find out if there's a guy in there earlier than later.

Speaker 4 You always want to have a guy inside you, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, if you have the guy inside you, you're usually the guy, right? Yeah, you are the guy.

Speaker 4 I guess you could be the guy.

Speaker 1 Well, because you have two guys, you'd be a power guy, right?

Speaker 4 And you got a guy behind the guy, yeah, a guy within the guy with a nesty guy.

Speaker 1 All right, so no, the bears, though, it's simple. It's it's a dysfunctional

Speaker 1 dumpster fire for toxic race because it's a lot of emotional decisions being made by Nagy in that game.

Speaker 1 He looks like he's pressing a little bit. He don't want to

Speaker 1 kind of knows it. And so does Ryan Pants.
And I'm not a man to talk about another man's job just to say that. No, we know

Speaker 1 we never would say anyone should get fired.

Speaker 1 But it just seems toxic a little bit right now. And I'm an outsider looking at it.
I don't have any intel.

Speaker 1 It's bigger than that, though. It's not, it's not.
Naggy's whatever. I'm like over because he's already fired.
That's a distraction. But you know what? I mean,

Speaker 1 he also goes into the development of the quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When he doesn't know, like, maybe he's thinking, if he's thinking he's not going to be there next year, then he ain't thinking about what he needs to be thinking about.

Speaker 1 And that's getting better each and every day in practice and doing it right in practice. Everything roots from practice.

Speaker 1 And guys that take it like dead serious, those are the guys that you always see that come out of nowhere that are like the guy that, you know, he was a practice, he was lighting up the defense on scout team.

Speaker 1 And you know what I mean? Like, that's when you see if you're guys. Okay, so I have a question off that, but real quick.
So the Bears are just a dumpster fire.

Speaker 1 It's top down.

Speaker 1 It's the fact that George McCasky has Ted Phillips, an accountant, making football decisions, and he's not a football person.

Speaker 1 And they need to strip it down, not only front office, not only coach, but like ownership, like all of it. Because it's just, it was Deja Vu watching on Monday night.

Speaker 1 I was basically watching the same thing that happened seven years ago with Mark Tressman on a Monday night football game, week 15, getting their fucking teeth kicked in at Soldier Field with a dead man walking.

Speaker 1 Who would you want to coach the Bears?

Speaker 1 Any sexy name? Brian Day.

Speaker 4 I'm going to throw a name out there for you.

Speaker 1 I have one name in my mind.

Speaker 4 Byron Lefwich.

Speaker 1 I would be okay with Byron Lefwich.

Speaker 1 What about Brian Dayball?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Butterball? No, what? Ski ball. Ski ball.

Speaker 1 You corrected me when I said that on the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go right in. Ski.
Like those little skeets, skeet balls. Uh-huh.
So I do think they probably have to go an offensive guy.

Speaker 1 If we're going to throw out a defensive guy name, I actually, I think D'Amiko Ryan's in San Francisco is doing a great job, and I just love Kyle Shanahan and anyone who's around him.

Speaker 1 You just want Kyle Shanahan. I want Kyle Shanahan.
I want them to throw as much money at Kyle Shanahan and bring him in and have him be the coach. But

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's got to probably be an offensive person.

Speaker 1 It has to be, I think the Bears are in a spot where they need to, almost like Peyton Manning, when Peyton Manning went to Indy, they basically were like, fuck the defense.

Speaker 1 We'll just load up on offense and worry about the defense later. The Bears kind of have to do that right now.
Like, they have to be like, we have to put everything behind Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 A lot of attrition there on defense. But we have to put everything behind Justin Fields

Speaker 1 and worry about the defense after that set.

Speaker 4 I think the defense played really well, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but with no line. All of our cornerbacks and safety.

Speaker 4 Make Hicks was awesome last night.

Speaker 1 He's been a beast for a long time.

Speaker 4 He's such a fun player to watch.

Speaker 4 I love nothing more than watching just a big, fat defensive tackle that's strong as shit and will get sacks by pushing their offensive lineman into the quarterback.

Speaker 4 To me, that's the best play in sport.

Speaker 1 Put them in the lap. Get him off the spot.

Speaker 1 They do know, though, they need someone who can, they need to hire someone who can run the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Like a president. Yeah, like

Speaker 1 the name that's been thrown out there, Trace Armstrong. Bear for Life, who's a power agent right now.

Speaker 1 Like he understands all the football world's relationships, how to run like an entire organization. They need that.
They don't need just a GM.

Speaker 1 They need a guy who can basically say, this is the 10-year plan.

Speaker 1 Don't fuck with me for five years. Don't talk to me for five years.
Then we'll do a check-in. It's very tough.

Speaker 1 If you look, I mean... Owners matter.

Speaker 1 Owners are impatient these days. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone wants results right away.

Speaker 4 What about Ron Rivera to be that guy?

Speaker 4 Ron post football team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he actually seems like he would be a good fit after he's done coaching.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. I think a team would be well served to hire Ron Rivera to just be in charge of all football matters.

Speaker 1 He's a Chicago guy. Absolutely.
Wait, so alright, so this is what I was going to ask. The practice thing you brought up.
Which one?

Speaker 1 Will you s that like guys who practice really well end up being that practice matters more than people realize?

Speaker 1 That's how you see. Right.
Like you always see like an undrafted guy. You'll see him practice.
Like you could feel like with little

Speaker 1 what's his little little Miles.

Speaker 1 uh a little secondary guy for the pats right now. I'm an analyst, professional analyst.

Speaker 1 I'm now in my own head. We're definitely gonna have someone give us like a guy tracker.
Oh, yeah. No, I want to know the snake it down on

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 4 Let's take a guess. As of right now, Miles Davis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my guy. He's my guy.
He's kind of blue. No, he was an undrafted guy, but like for an example, like you see guys, there's guys like him that like come in or Malcolm Butler.

Speaker 1 You always see guys that like, all right, this guy in practice, he's balling out. He's playing hard, he's probably not listening to like the tempo of the game because he's competing.

Speaker 1 Like, those are the guys, guys that think they're too cool to practice, or like they take it as a joke, or like they don't know how big it is.

Speaker 1 Like, even if you're a first-round draft pick, or a second-round draft pick, or a third, like those higher draft picks, you see guys like that come and go.

Speaker 1 Like, they don't take it serious, they don't understand how big it is, and that's where you root everything from.

Speaker 1 So, that's what that's what I was going to bring up because I was a little surprised that Mac Jones and some of the Patriots were so open about, like, they said they had a terrible week of practice in the bye week.

Speaker 1 They said, I think the quote was, we ruined the bye week. We did not practice with energy.
Were you a little surprised to not only hear a Patriot say that, but also like

Speaker 1 be like, whoa, they weren't practicing well? That's weird. Like, Belichick.

Speaker 1 Nah, because I remember we came off of, we, we came off of a,

Speaker 1 we were a young team in 2013, and they're a young team. Like, they have, they have a couple older guys with McCordy and Slater and Andrews.
Now, he's getting a little older.

Speaker 1 Like, they have older veterans, but like, majority of that team is young. When your quarterback's a rookie, you know, that's crazy.
And, and

Speaker 1 they could have hit a wall. Like, they don't, this is like week 14.

Speaker 1 These guys are used to playing 10 weeks, 12 weeks, and they get a month off, go, you know, go home for Christmas, go to the bowl game, collect a bat. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's a completely different thing. Competitive stamina starts to come now.

Speaker 1 But bringing it back to like our story, I remember we won a game. It was the week we came back and we played Carolina.

Speaker 1 Remember, they beat us with the no-call on Gronk when Keek Lee was there, and they were really good footballers. It was a night game, right? Yeah, night game.
Monday night.

Speaker 1 It was Monday night football. And Cam was playing good.

Speaker 4 I had the worst hangover of my life that night.

Speaker 4 I remember

Speaker 4 I was sweating. I was still hungover from Saturday night on Monday night and just sitting on the couch sweating.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. But

Speaker 1 we were a young team and we didn't take that week of practice. Like you kind of like take it for granted.

Speaker 1 And the teams that I always were like really good, like the veteran teams, they took advantage of those weeks to self-scout, work on fundamentals, work on things, not go through the motions.

Speaker 1 Like you have to have a real good set of leaders at all those spots to get that going, which I'm not saying they don't, but they have a young team. So like,

Speaker 1 I could, I could definitely see it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And when, when Belichick came out and said, I'd like to apologize to the media for that,

Speaker 4 so short with you.

Speaker 4 What kind of mind games is he playing?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but that's why he's a Jedi.

Speaker 4 He's up to something.

Speaker 1 He's Sith.

Speaker 4 I don't know what it is, but he Bill Belichick coming out and being like, hey, sorry. Sorry that I wasn't overtly friendly with you guys.
That's on me. I love you all.
What's going on here?

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 I guess, you know, my dad told me people soften up a little bit when you get older. You get a little more wisdom.
You start, you know, you start being a nicer guy.

Speaker 1 And maybe that's happening. And he's, he's, what is he, 70 now? Yeah, he's getting

Speaker 1 soft. Yeah.
I'm not saying he's getting soft. No, that's bolts and board material for him.
Yeah, actually, this is what he wants. I'm not saying

Speaker 1 this is exactly what he wants.

Speaker 4 He wants people to be like

Speaker 4 getting soft so that he can come out and just motherfuck everybody.

Speaker 4 You told me on Sunday, like, this loss might have been good for Mac Jones because now he gets a good Bill motherfucking. You need to.

Speaker 1 You get a couple weeks. You get a little bad taste in your system.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, that's like now it's playoffs. Now you start simulating playoffs.
Each week's a playoff game. You need to have that.
You need to feel a little tension.

Speaker 1 You need to feel a little uncomfortable. And the best teams I was on, they were comfortable with the uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 And maybe, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You told us too that Belichick, the first thing he does every single morning is listen to Pardon My Take, right?

Speaker 1 I think so. Him and Bears.

Speaker 1 You guys ever heard of Bears? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 We've heard the legend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a legend. Him and Berish.
I think they probably go through that with their morning.

Speaker 4 His job is to just say, like, no, they won't do it, right? To all media requests?

Speaker 1 To anything. Yeah.
Everything. We were supposed to.
You know, what's funny is we were supposed to have Matthew Judon on today.

Speaker 1 I think he was dealing with something, so it's like not

Speaker 1 like something problem. He was just like, something came up.
But PFT and I were joking, like, why did we ever think that we would get a New England Patriot in the middle of the season?

Speaker 1 Like, he's going to come on, and he apologized. And it was like, we're totally fine with it.
But it was just, you know what? I'll tell you right now, it could be Bill evolving. You think so?

Speaker 1 It could be like he's evolving to the times a little bit, maybe, because it makes him more personable with the team.

Speaker 4 Is he going to get on Snapface soon?

Speaker 1 He used to say that stuff all the time.

Speaker 4 He knows, right? He knows what they're actually called. He's going to make that shit.
He's got to do.

Speaker 1 But it was funny because, like, you know, we'll have guests cancel on us sometimes, and we're like, oh, that's that was kind of rude. Like, Matthew Judah, we're like, oh, no, we understand, dude.

Speaker 1 Like, we, we never thought that we thought it was a mistake. Yeah, we, like, we'll talk to you after the season, and it will be a great deal.
Yeah, he got zapped. Yeah, right.
It's like,

Speaker 1 you definitely didn't ask. No.

Speaker 1 Nah, nah, yeah. All right, last thing.
So give us,

Speaker 1 you, you do cover the the sport professionally inside the NFL. Professionally Alex.
No big deal.

Speaker 4 Miles Bryant.

Speaker 1 Inside the NFL streaming up parameters. Miles Bryant.
I was going to say, Miles Davis is

Speaker 1 Miles Davis. That's why I said Kyles Davis Bryant.
Yeah, that's my boy, too. My bad.

Speaker 1 Very cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cody is a teamer. Give us two teams

Speaker 1 in the AFC and the NFC that you're like, all right, those are Super Bowl teams. Two teams? Yeah, because there's obviously a debate, and we have this later on in the show.

Speaker 1 You'll hear it that I threw out that, like, everyone who says, oh, there's no good teams, I disagree. I think there are clearly some good teams that are Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 1 There's just a lot of teams in the middle that, like, one week they can look great and one week they can look terrible. But there are, like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, you want to call it five, six, seven teams

Speaker 1 in my mind that are better than that. I'll maybe three on each.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You got to go.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are, I mean, they're getting hot at the right time.

Speaker 1 When their defense is playing well, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's scary. Their offense still isn't there.
They're still missing little fundamental things. And I've seen Patrick Mahomes miss some throws that you haven't seen him miss in a very long time.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 they're contending for a Super Bowl because they've been there. They know it.
They got some elite weapons, all dependent on COVID. You know, all this bull.
We'll see how that rolls.

Speaker 1 But I think Kansas City.

Speaker 4 I think Kansas City has the biggest dog in the NFL, by the way. I think Tyrann Matthews is the biggest dog.
He's the definition of a dog.

Speaker 1 He's a damn good football player. A honey badger.
Yep. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's got a knack for the ball. He's always in the right spots at the right time.

Speaker 1 He's one of the greats of this generation at the position for sure. I think Tyron Matthews is a really good football player.
All right, so Chiefs, they should get the one seed if they win out.

Speaker 1 I mean, they will get the one seed if they win out, and it feels like they're rolling.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're gonna. We'll see.
Let's pop it. Oh, you like the Steelers.
Yeah, you like the Steelers this weekend.

Speaker 1 You do. I know.
I heard you say that. It's been a 10-1 thread.

Speaker 1 It's like Tomlin.

Speaker 1 Something about him is an underdog. I like Tomlin.
It's just something about him as an underdog.

Speaker 1 Farewell Tour. Matt Guy.
He's a Mac guy, Mac Daddy.

Speaker 1 Patriots. I think the Patriots are contending.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're a teetere

Speaker 1 just because, but their defense is so good, and I know how they coach, how they prepare.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I hated last game,

Speaker 1 but it was due to happen to have doi doi plays by a rookie. Like that, that's destined to happen.
And it's almost at a point where, like, all right, we still have time to learn from that. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, so

Speaker 1 I believe that they'll get that fixed potentially, and if they want to play the game they want to play,

Speaker 1 how they want to play it, I think they'll be very, you know, they'll be able to contend. And I like Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 I like Indianapolis. That defense is, they got 31 takeaways.
They're tie with the Cowboys and takeaways. And when you're taking, like,

Speaker 1 they've had a takeaway in every game this year, which has like, that's very rare to be have done.

Speaker 1 Like, you may have 31 takeaways, but like to have one every game, they're just so opportunistic on defense. They can stop the run.

Speaker 1 We saw it last week when they stopped Stevenson with the Patriots, and he's a damn good running back. They didn't have Damian Harris.
They have special teams. They had two block punts by E.J.
Speedy.

Speaker 1 I mean, Bubba Ventrone from the Patriots played with them. He's their special teams coordinator.
They're getting a lot of production out of their special teams. They're a tough football team.

Speaker 1 The only thing

Speaker 1 that they got to keep in whack is Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 He can't play hero ball. He's got to be sleep at night.
And he's, I mean, he's statistically, he's playing like a good player. Oh, he's playing good years.
He is. He's playing good football.
He's got.

Speaker 4 I think he was five for 12. I just really.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 when you run the ball for 170 yards, you don't have to throw. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's true. I mean,

Speaker 1 he did what he had to do, right? Right.

Speaker 4 He handed the ball off tremendously. Hey,

Speaker 1 if you're running the ball like that,

Speaker 1 I think those teams are good. And then on the NFC,

Speaker 1 Packers, Bucs. Have the Bucs called you yet because everyone's injured?

Speaker 1 We were waiting to get to this question. They have not.

Speaker 1 Wait, have it literally...

Speaker 4 That's the way that you asked it, Big Cat. Has anybody associated with the Bucs? It's in a little tickle to you.

Speaker 4 No. That's a lie.

Speaker 1 No. I don't believe.

Speaker 1 I think last time you were in, we listed like if this guy got hurt and this guy got hurt and... Pretty much every one of those guys have gotten hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I haven't gotten no call.

Speaker 4 I mean, you got to play. Did you get a text?

Speaker 1 No text either. They don't have anyone in the slot now.
Chris Godwin.

Speaker 4 What was the last text you got from Tom?

Speaker 1 He was mad at me for making fun of him

Speaker 1 inside the NFL. He's like, you know, stop telling stupid stuff.
Stop showing stories.

Speaker 1 But do you think he's mad? Like...

Speaker 1 I think he'd probably get over that if it's Ring 8 is on the line, right? I mean,

Speaker 1 guy likes to win.

Speaker 4 Let's role play for a second okay I'll be Tom Brady who am I you're you

Speaker 4 no I'll be him I'll be Jules I'll be Jules hey Jules what's up but who am I uh you're just a watcher yeah you're Giselle hey Bubs hey what's going on Jules hey Bubs hey hey Jules how's it going pretty good I'm feeling pretty fast yeah I didn't ask if you were feeling fast or not I was actually I was gone because you were saying all sorts of funny stuff on inside the NFL and I'm mad at you.

Speaker 4 Hey Jules, do you want to come play in week 17 and then the playoffs for us?

Speaker 1 Can I be your guy? You're a guy. I'm a guy, but can I be your guy? You're a guy.
But what about your guy?

Speaker 4 We got some guys down here.

Speaker 1 But Gronk's a guy. I got one to be here.
There you go.

Speaker 4 Antonio Brown's burning the eggs again.

Speaker 1 I mean, I never. That's probably how it would go, right?

Speaker 1 Maybe one less guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there wouldn't be guys. There'd be some guys.
Babes. Yeah, babes.
hey, babe, can I be your babe?

Speaker 4 If he were to call you right now, would you say yes?

Speaker 1 Nah, probably not, probably not. Let's call him.
I think he's asleep. He's been asleep.
Yeah, what a time is.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, he's on four hours of REM right now.

Speaker 1 It's 11 o'clock. I had a theory last year that he was playing poorly at night because it was past his bedtime.

Speaker 1 Or he's sundowning. And I actually think there's like

Speaker 1 a quarter it is.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's totally wrong because it really, like, think about it: Sunday night, they played really bad at 10 o'clock Eastern time he's been asleep for three hours baby four yeah the body clock is all fucked up

Speaker 4 yeah all right so the Bucks are number two Bucks are two now are you gonna put the Cowboys in there oh here's the three three is very important because you have

Speaker 1 to put the Cowboys in there Cowboys Rams 49ers

Speaker 1 Would be my three that you get to pick from.

Speaker 4 I know it's not gonna be the Rams because we were watching that game tonight and every time the Seahawks got a rush for over four yards, Jules would just be like soft.

Speaker 4 Soft football team.

Speaker 1 No, it was more like 11. Yeah.
Like 11. There were gashes.
There were gashes. Second level stuff.
You can't be getting gashed like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gashes are bad. I never said soft.
I said finesse. Finesse.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I said soft. Finger roll, not a dunk.
Yeah, that was finesse. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Your basketball team playing football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hot pass rushers.

Speaker 1 We got to defend the run because it's going to come down to that in this time time of the year.

Speaker 4 So, Cowboys, yes or no?

Speaker 1 I'm going with the Niners. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 I like the way the Niners play.

Speaker 1 We love the Niners. Jimmy G's been there, man, and everyone wants to hate on him.
And, you know,

Speaker 1 everyone doesn't want to buy him. They try to replace him.
The guy wins football games. You get it to Kittle.
If Kittle stays healthy, Debo Samuels stays healthy.

Speaker 1 Any running back that can run is healthy for that offensive line.

Speaker 1 If you watch that defense, defense, man. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're playing real well. They're flying right now.

Speaker 1 They also, you're right. Like, Jimmy G, for all the shit we give him,

Speaker 1 he was one throw away from winning a Super Bowl. I mean, he brought a team to a Super Bowl.
He was one throw. I mean, he did throw it like seven times in that game against, I think, the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Or no, it was the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but either way, that throw that he missed to...

Speaker 1 Who was it, Emmanuel Sanders? Emma Sanders.

Speaker 4 Emmanuel Sanders on the left.

Speaker 1 That was like

Speaker 1 a little bit overthrown.

Speaker 1 If you catch that, they win the scene. It came down to more than just

Speaker 1 playing. It's never just one play.
It's never just one play, but it really was that play. Never just one play.

Speaker 4 It is that one play. It is like interviewing Belichick, kind of.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A little bit.

Speaker 1 But it's true. I mean, there's probably a series of like 10 to 15 plays.
Yeah, no, you're right. You know, and it's situationally, like, all right, that third and fucking, or that third and three

Speaker 1 that you didn't get coming out

Speaker 1 out of halftime, you know, and then they go and score. You don't flip the field position.
You know, like those, those are the plays that beat you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or the dumb, you know, the dumb ME by the left guard who

Speaker 1 didn't

Speaker 1 go out

Speaker 1 to the wing or something, guy runs free and they didn't get the protection right. That kills the drive.
Then it's second and 13, second and 14. You're trying to play catch up on down a distance.

Speaker 1 You know, then you're off track. Like, those are the plays that kill it.
Like, those one plays, yes, they're, they're part of it, but it's not just one play.

Speaker 4 You mentioned the offensive line, and Trent Williams has just been blocking his face off.

Speaker 4 He's a guy that every single year you can count on to have three or four blocks that make an end of the season highlight reel for the entire NFL. He's a large human.
Just like lame people.

Speaker 4 And he's fast as shit, too. He's one of the guys that actually terrifies me when I see how quickly he moves at that size.

Speaker 4 There should be, because I saw Jeff Saturday say this today, but he was saying that people should talk about Trent williams as being an mvp candidate which respect to jeff saturday for getting his name you know across the bottom line with a splashy quote i think there should be an award that goes out to like the most valuable offensive lineman like the mvd the most valuable dude maybe we can do that because i think he he's a guy that is important enough to his team where he should get some level of ultimate recognition.

Speaker 1 The game's won in the trenches.

Speaker 1 Always. Always.
I love that part.

Speaker 1 I love it because it's like, as much as the analytics, and we actually are pro-analytics, and everything, you know, people can debate it.

Speaker 1 My favorite part about football is it really does come down to who is tougher and stronger in the trenches.

Speaker 1 Like that's smarter. Like we talk about fourth down conversions and going for two and all this shit.

Speaker 1 And it's like, yeah, if your guys in the trenches are bigger and stronger than the guys across the trenches. It's not even that.
It's

Speaker 4 which

Speaker 1 group plays the best together.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. A lot of games and stuff that the defensive line plays, the ETs, the TE games where they're stunting.

Speaker 1 And then when you see a good offensive line, when they know how to pick up the protection and guys are sliding when a guy's looping and he's passing guys,

Speaker 1 like that's like, it's insane. I remember watching sometimes in practice, like, how the fuck did they get that shit circled? How do they get that block right up? Right.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's, it's art. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's art.

Speaker 4 There's also the third part of the game, the special team.

Speaker 1 So the special teams, that's where that's my only hope for the biggest teams guy out.

Speaker 4 I've, yeah, I've noticed a lot of muff punts recently. The art of returning a punt, I feel like it's a lot more difficult than a lot of people think.

Speaker 4 And I was talking to you about it a little bit earlier, scratch the surface, about what it's like as a punt returner, because it seems like a terrifying job, but how you determine whether or not you're going to call for a fair catch or you're going to try to return it, whether it's based off the hang time or what the keys are for that.

Speaker 1 What year of my career am I in?

Speaker 4 In the year where Belichick went up to Wes Welker and said, Hey, you know who Wally Pay is?

Speaker 1 Oh, then I'm trying to,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm not fair catching at all. I'm not getting any offensive reps.
I'm trying to make a play. Every time.
Every time, every concussion left and right just to try to get a little yak action.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 go ahead. So the punts? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, what do you look at? How do you you decide? Because you can't be looking at the people that are coming down to the cunning gun. No, you can't be looking at the gunners, right?

Speaker 1 You feel, and that's also why, like, hang time is huge. And, like, the depth of the punt and the direction of the punt and how the punt.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 when you catch a lot of punts, right when the punter kicks it.

Speaker 1 You can feel and you can see the trajectory of where it's going and you can kind of gauge by if the if the the nose of the punt turns over or if it stays up.

Speaker 1 So once it gets to that area, if it turns over at the right-footed punter, it's going to drop to your left. So you play it on your right titty.
So you come down, you play it on your right T.

Speaker 1 So once you see that it's turning over, then you run to the spot because you kind of know the depths per second just because you're practicing it all the time.

Speaker 1 And then once you get to the spot where you have a two-way go, you want to square. That's why you want to square up on it.
So you get a two-way go.

Speaker 1 You don't want to just catch it to the side or catch it over your shoulder, which I did a bunch.

Speaker 1 But like, the coach would always yell at you because he'd always say, you want to have a two-way go when you catch the ball.

Speaker 1 So if it turned over with the right-footed punter, it's going to leak to the left and go long. If it doesn't turn over

Speaker 1 with the right-footed punter, and

Speaker 1 the tip stays up, it's going to die and go right. So you play it on

Speaker 1 your left boob.

Speaker 1 And so like, so you're squared. And so once you kind of see where that's going to be, you run to the spot spot and

Speaker 1 you catch a punt with your feet.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 when you have good feet, that's when you catch a punt. That's what Bill would always say.
You catch it with your feet, not with your hands. So you get the right feet.

Speaker 1 And once you know where that spot is, you take a look at the pursuit. You take a peek.

Speaker 1 And depending on how far it was, what hang time it was, if you're protected on certain sides, you make that decision.

Speaker 1 You know, if you have a block punt,

Speaker 1 that there's going to be a wave of guys coming because they're not blocking. They're going after the punter.

Speaker 1 So you'd always know if it wasn't a high punt and it was kind of short, that you're going to have guys in your face. Right.

Speaker 1 But you knew if he kicked it far and it wasn't high, that you're going to have a huge cushion. You might have a 15, 20-yard cushion till the first wave.

Speaker 1 So that's like, that was always how you kind of determined it.

Speaker 1 You'd always see the tip of the ball, and all those rules are reversed with the left-footed punter, which is, it used to be an unorthodox way of seeing it because there'd only be one or two left-footed punters.

Speaker 1 Now there's like six or eight.

Speaker 1 So that's what it is. It's all about judging the punt.
Once you get really good, then you can get comfortable where you can peek.

Speaker 1 You bring your eyes down, look at the field, peek, feel the pressure, and then you can go. And once you take that peek, you're taking a picture

Speaker 1 of the whole field with your eyes.

Speaker 1 And you're like, you see that guy, you see the long snappers probably like right here, the PPs over here, and you also know where your most of your protection is coming from based on the call, what punt return you have.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so when do you peak?

Speaker 1 I peek once I get to the spot

Speaker 1 with my feet.

Speaker 1 So once I see it, I'm running. And you get a tendency of what kind of punter the guys are.

Speaker 1 If they turn it over, you'll get all their numbers. You'll see they'll have a spot chart of every single punt on the piece of paper.

Speaker 1 and they'll show, all right, this is miss hits right here on this game, that game. Then you hit all this, and then you kind of study that so you can kind of see.

Speaker 1 So you go back to the spot, and once I get there, you take a look, just a little gander, a little peek, but you can't peek too long because then you get caught peeking, and then you cruise the ball.

Speaker 4 Have you ever

Speaker 1 muffed a punt?

Speaker 4 Have you ever peeked and then look back up and you're like, fuck, where's the ball?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 But sometimes you'll peek and then you'll go down too fast and then you'll muff the ball because you'll try to run before you have the ball. That's why like we saw the drop ball by Dodder today.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 he didn't peek, but he tried to run before he had the ball.

Speaker 1 And a lot of guys do that because he probably knew someone was coming in from that high angle where you want to get that ball and get squared up so you can see the field.

Speaker 1 Once you see the field, then you can make your moves.

Speaker 1 Punt returning sounds a lot like in Cars 3 when Lightning McQueen and Cruz have to try to go in and out of the tractors. I don't know if you're familiar with the film.
I've watched it about 100 times.

Speaker 1 That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 1 No, I have a daughter. We watch

Speaker 1 Unicorns and Pocahontas.

Speaker 1 Cars. I'm trying to get her.
We went on the Cars Ride at Disneyland. She liked it, but we haven't watched that one.
Yeah, you got to get into Cars.

Speaker 1 All right, Jules, this has been awesome, as always.

Speaker 1 Can we set you up to the house? Tell Philly fans not to hate. You guys got the other thing.
No,

Speaker 1 Philly fans are going to be all like,

Speaker 1 I'm on the right side of history. I think Philly's building something real.
I do.

Speaker 4 You think they're building something real enough to the point where you think they should get Matt Ryan this offseason?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I said that would be a spot if they don't believe in Jalen Hurts. But Jalen Hurts keeps playing games.
He keeps proving me wrong.

Speaker 4 I actually, I agree with Big Kat. I think that I'm not as down on the Eagles as Julian is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Julian hates him. He thinks they should actually be the whole Nick.
They should not be a franchise anymore.

Speaker 1 That's what you said off camera. You're like, why do we even have a team in this?

Speaker 4 I think you said

Speaker 1 bomb the internet. No, no, no, no, 2009, Pop Warner, Banquet.
First touchdown ever was in Lincoln Financial Field. Oh, they're

Speaker 1 really going to love you now.

Speaker 1 My pump return in the preseason. Oh, that doesn't count.

Speaker 1 It counted. I paid the team for that thing, bro.

Speaker 1 All right, we're going to pencil you in. I'm thinking,

Speaker 1 so there's a wildcard game on Monday this year.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Tuesday after. I know you do inside the game.
Are we doing the Slime game? Oh, yeah, it's it's the Slim and After Nick. Yeah, but Tuesday, the Tuesday after, let's have you back.

Speaker 1 You do inside the NFL. You got everything fresh in your mind.
So it's like a month. People love having you on.

Speaker 1 Not Philly.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to deal with Philly tomorrow. You're going to have to deal with Philly tomorrow.
I ran Steve's. I ran out of the staff.
DeLessandro's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Delessandros, if you want to be real Philly.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it sounds like you're doing all the, you're just checking the tourist boxes. Yeah, Pat.

Speaker 1 You're getting more mad at you. You wouldn't say that's a little college bar area out there? I was like 22 years old when I went to this thing.
Yeah, you're not. This isn't going to...

Speaker 1 You're pointing no return.

Speaker 4 You have any water ice? Well, I'll ask you this. Sheets or Wawa?

Speaker 1 I like sheets.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, they fucking hate your guts right now. I like sheets.
You failed this test.

Speaker 1 Dude, the Pittsburgh people love sheets because all the Westwood college dudes, Pittsburgh, they would talk about this. They put one in our college town.
We go there every day.

Speaker 1 You get the made-to-order stuff.

Speaker 4 MTO, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm a Wawa guy. Sheets is.
is. I never had Wawa.
It's very good. It's actually like, it's one of those things that you do it as a joke and then you leave and you're like, that was kind of good.

Speaker 1 I kind of go back. What is it?

Speaker 1 It's the same as sheets. She would get sandwiches.
Sandwiches.

Speaker 4 Best drunk food in the world.

Speaker 1 Sandwiches, like, you know, you just go sandwiches, bag of chips, maybe a little candy.

Speaker 4 Get a tasty candy.

Speaker 1 She's got a badge. Maybe a Wawa iced tea.
They would always have crazy flavored pretzels. Yeah.
Like that, like limited edition, like the, you know, the little pretzel, like,

Speaker 1 up things. Like, they were like the chunks, the bites.
Like, anti-existing. They'd have like all the flavors, like the honey Dijon ones, like the buffalo ones.
Like, everywhere else there.

Speaker 1 I didn't even see those flavors.

Speaker 4 I just don't discriminate. I love food that's served in gas stations.
I love gas stations. Go go Taquitos at 7-Eleven.
You won't find a better purchase for the price in America than a 99-cent Taquito.

Speaker 1 I'll go to a gas station

Speaker 1 and I won't even want anything, but I'll buy everything.

Speaker 1 Stop that. You got it.
If you're going to play for the Bucs.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, I'm a one-team guy, dude.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at that.

Speaker 1 What if the Patriots need you? I mean, they got

Speaker 1 all right, Jules. Thank you.
All right, so whatever date that is, I think it's Tuesday, January. Put it in your calendar right now.

Speaker 1 Tuesday, January

Speaker 1 18th.

Speaker 1 Boom. He's here.
We'll have you on the show again. Love it.
That'll be great for the 19th show.

Speaker 1 I was supposed to go to Tottenham. On men? Yeah.
Huh? Are you not going to go?

Speaker 1 No, they canceled. I was going to do some content with all their soccer guys, like all the team.
Yeah. Like Soan and freaking Harry.

Speaker 4 Harry Kane?

Speaker 1 What? Yeah. Spits when he talks.

Speaker 4 He's just a weird length.

Speaker 1 He loves football, and he wants to be a kicker.

Speaker 4 He would not succeed.

Speaker 1 No, like he's

Speaker 1 going to kick five yards.

Speaker 1 They're saying that he wants to become a kicker when he's done playing professional soccer. He would be like the anti-Justin Tucker.

Speaker 1 He'd only have to kick 20 yarders.

Speaker 4 He taps in everything, dude.

Speaker 1 He can only score inside. He's a taffeta merchant.
I mean,

Speaker 1 he scores inside the ball. He's a pilot that just scores.

Speaker 4 You can't use your head. Maybe if you could head a ball over the crossbar, he'd be fine.

Speaker 1 I mean, C-O-Y-S. Come on, you Spurs.
Nah, gross. Well, who's your team? Well, I own Swansea, and then I've become an an Arsenal.
Swansea?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've become an Arsenal fan because my best friend Troops is an Arsenal fan.

Speaker 1 The Gunners? Yeah, the Gunners. The Gooters.

Speaker 4 Arsenal's my London team. 49ers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Gunners. They call them the 49ers, too.
I went to the Arsenal game.

Speaker 4 I just like all London teams, actually. I just root for the city.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Manchester City.

Speaker 4 I'm a big West Ham guy.

Speaker 1 Manchester City.

Speaker 4 Leicester City?

Speaker 1 Liverpool. Leicester.
It's London City. It's Leicester, isn't it?

Speaker 4 No, it's Leicester.

Speaker 1 Is it Leicester?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Norwich.
Nottingham.

Speaker 1 Nottingham.

Speaker 1 We're done.

Speaker 1 Jules, we love you.

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So we're taping. We just taped with Jules after the game.

Speaker 1 We are taping this at six o'clock, so it's an hour before kickoff. Let's just do a fun PFTU predict what's going to happen in the Washington football team game.

Speaker 1 And then when it's wrong, we can all laugh at you. Ha ha ha.
Pervert.

Speaker 4 It's not going to be wrong, though.

Speaker 4 I have a lock on this game. Oh.
Garrett Gilbert. He's starting at quarterback because Taylor Heineke and Kyle Allen both out with the Coco.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 we got Garrett Gilbert. People forget that Garrett Gilbert was a great quarterback in high school.
He played at Texas. He was Mr.
Football.

Speaker 1 Came in for Colt McCoy. Came in for Colt McCoy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he would have won that national championship if Colt McCoy didn't get injured in the first half of that game. So he's a great player.

Speaker 4 As our good friend Sam Schwartzein pointed out to me, he might be the all-time

Speaker 4 what-if guy because Texas recruited, Mac Brown recruited Garrett Gilbert to play quarterback instead of Andrew Luck.

Speaker 4 And I think that was also around the time where Mac Brown was like, I'll take Robert Griffin and Johnny Menzel if they play safety and not quarterback. Genius.

Speaker 4 So if Andrew Luck had gone to Texas and Garrett Gilbert had gone to

Speaker 4 Sanford, who knows where, where, like, John Harbaugh or excuse me, Jim Harbaugh probably doesn't get the Niners job. Yep.
Colin Kaepernick probably doesn't start at quarterback.

Speaker 4 Donald Trump doesn't get elected.

Speaker 4 Everything changes with that.

Speaker 1 No COVID.

Speaker 1 No COVID.

Speaker 4 And then Garrett Gilbert doesn't start at quarterback tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Garrett Gilbert doesn't start. No, Billy.
Billy goes and works as a schmuck in a finance job. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Wow. So

Speaker 4 it's all due to Garrett Gilbert.

Speaker 1 What do you say, Bubba? I heard this recently on Redline. Did you you know Colt McCoy's real name is Daniel? I did not.
If people knew that, he never would have been the Texas quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Colt McCoy. Although, Daniel McCoy kind of sounds like a gunslinger in its own right.
Danny McCoy? No, yeah, like

Speaker 1 an old Western guy.

Speaker 1 Like old Daniel McCoy coming through here.

Speaker 4 I feel like Danny McCoy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Danny McCoy. Quick draw, Danny McCoy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he probably still would have worked out. The last name, McCoy.
You can fill in the blanks on that, and you're going to play football at Texas. But Colt is great.
But Colt's great.

Speaker 4 So Garrett Gilbert, people forget he was on part of my take back when we went to Baker Mayfield's RV in Cleveland. Yep.
He stopped by for a little bit. He's played for the Patriots twice.

Speaker 4 So Belichick has signed him twice. He won a Super Bowl.
That's something. He won a Super Bowl in New England.
I think he was on the practice squad, but that still counts. So all that being said,

Speaker 4 I feel like it's shocked the world time.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you're predicting a win.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking 13-9.

Speaker 4 13-9 tonight. The Washington football team over the Philadelphia Eagles.
And I'm definitely just saying this to make myself feel like we have a chance because if we lose, it's pretty much.

Speaker 1 All fair.

Speaker 4 Yofts are over.

Speaker 1 You got to do it. You got to get yourself.

Speaker 1 It's basically the Torradal shot for fans is just convincing yourself an hour before kickoff that you have a chance. Yeah, we have to.
Because otherwise, what's the point?

Speaker 4 We definitely don't have a chance.

Speaker 4 But what if? Right.

Speaker 1 What if I'm in? What if?

Speaker 4 It's just taking this long for Garrett Gilbert to show exactly why he was the number one recruit out of high school.

Speaker 1 Somewhere inside there is a star. Yes.
Let's just see it tonight.

Speaker 4 Oh, here's a fun fact about Garrett Gilbert. His dad is the only player in NFL history to lose five consecutive Super Bowls.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 So he was on the Bills?

Speaker 4 He was on the Bills for four years, and then he went to the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 4 And that was a close one against the 49ers.

Speaker 1 That's brutal.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, so he can get to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's got that in his DNA. That's brutal.
It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad.
Our entire team is.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. You can't switch.
Don't switch. Don't switch.
It's going to be bad Don't watch the Eagles. Yes, there it is.

Speaker 4 It's a bad night to be a bird.

Speaker 1 It's a good matchup for the Eagles. Not a lot of tape on Garrett Gilbert.

Speaker 4 Virtually no tape on Garrett Gilbert. Why not?

Speaker 1 Why not? Why not? I'm wearing the RG3 hat. Why not? Why not? Which it lost the last game, but that doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the refs boned us on that one.

Speaker 1 Okay, why not? All right, so let's get to hot seat cool thrown. Just a reminder for everyone.

Speaker 1 No show Friday. So we're taking a show off.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. How could we? But we are going to take one show off.

Speaker 4 On Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 On Christmas Day, or Christmas Eve Day.

Speaker 1 So no show Friday. So we're going to do our picks and preview at the end of this show.
So if you want to listen on Friday, we'll do it then.

Speaker 1 Maybe we'll throw in a Fire Fest just to give people something feel like it's a Friday. So pause the show if you have to work Friday morning after Guys on Chicks.

Speaker 1 The following week, regular show Monday, recap. We would never miss an NFL Sunday.
But then we're going to be in all forms of transit.

Speaker 1 So the next part of my take will come out probably mid to late afternoon on Thursday, live from the Arizona Bowl. All three of us will be together.

Speaker 1 Actually, Jake and Billy will be there too. All of us will be there.
So Thursday, live from the Arizona Bowl, will be our next show after Monday's show next week.

Speaker 1 Fucking A. Kent State just hit the fucking doink.
And I needed that. God damn it.
Okay. Hot seat cool thrown.
Hank, I heard that chuckle.

Speaker 5 I know, I'm not. I was chuckling after you, but there's still 13 minutes left.

Speaker 4 You're just laughing because you're so funny, big cat.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 If that.

Speaker 4 Wyoming does have the coolest jackets. They've got great jackets, like the old-timey script ones like Josh Allen used to wear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mac kickers, man.

Speaker 1 You know how everyone tweets college kickers? It's a totally different Mac kickers. When they make it, you tweet college kickers.

Speaker 4 Mac kickers, I think, lead all forms of football, including high school, at missing the net entirely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're also just always the skinniest kids in the world.

Speaker 1 But they're just kids, so I'm not going to get mad.

Speaker 1 Because there's 13 minutes left. Go ahead, Hank.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is the haters, of which there are many that think Belichick is a media-hating robot.

Speaker 5 But on Monday after their game on Saturday, he had a media availability, and he started off by apologizing to all the press for being too short with them after the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's a great, he's a nice guy.

Speaker 4 What's his angle? Is he getting soft?

Speaker 4 no i think he's got an angle i think he came out he's like he's got some story that's about to break that's bad for him and so he's he's buttering us all up and guess what it's good everyone it's working everyone's like i really love bill belichick this is great

Speaker 7 also mac jones with an uncharacteristic response

Speaker 1 what are you gonna say the response when he was like we had a bad week at practice and like everyone is badly yeah just like a lot of weird stuff from the patriots Oh, I don't think that's how is that weird?

Speaker 1 I thought that was actually interesting.

Speaker 7 No, but you're just all stonefaced. Like, why? Why are they changing it up? Even Coach Belichick's changing it up.

Speaker 5 No, I think that's again, that's my whole point: is the hot seat is the haters. I think there's this narrative that Belichick, you know, doesn't like the media and always gives short answers.

Speaker 5 He said that the reason why

Speaker 5 Mac Jones is being honest. So again, hot seat haters.
Patriots are, you know, very media friendly, happy people, just like me. Positive.
It's a positive organization.

Speaker 1 We also, I don't think we ever talked about the story, the Matthew Judon Carson Wentz story, which is very funny because Carson Wentz did a press conference afterwards, and they asked him what was said between them when they had a little like kerfuffle there on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 And he's like, when you question a man's ability to have children, like that's crossing the line. That's just a funny thing.

Speaker 1 In the moment, I get what Carson Wentz is mad about, but then to like two hours later do a press conference and be like, yeah, that guy said I couldn't come. Like, what?

Speaker 1 Is Is that what it was?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he hit me in my balls because I just read the headline.

Speaker 4 I just assumed that Carson Wentz got hit in the nuts.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he got hit in the nuts. No, hold on.
I'm going to find it. But it was, it's just such a funny thing to say when you've had a moment to sit down and like process it because it's like,

Speaker 1 doesn't Carson Wentz have kids?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so. He strikes me as a guy that probably got married when he was 19 years old.

Speaker 1 Carson Wentz accuses Matthew Judon of questioning his ability to reproduce.

Speaker 4 Okay, so that's the same headline I read, but I thought that it meant that he hit him in the nuts. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 Because it seems like a very Carson Wentz way to be like, I got hit in the balls and be like, he took away my ability to raise children.

Speaker 1 He said, don't need to get into specifics, obviously, but when a man's ability to reproduce is being in question and there's some other extracurriculars, guys' hands need to be all at their side.

Speaker 1 So maybe he did and also said,

Speaker 1 maybe he grabbed it and was like, you can't use this.

Speaker 4 I think he, yeah, he's like, well, so Carson Wentz is always going to be comparing himself to Nick Foles in every way.

Speaker 4 And so he's probably very sensitive about the fact that he's not dealing with the same, he's not playing with the same equipment. But that's all.

Speaker 1 Nick Foles is playing with. That's also the lamest way to say, like, ow, you hit me in my nuts, to be like, you just questioned my ability to reproduce.

Speaker 4 Actually, if you look at it, isn't Carson Wentz like his whole?

Speaker 1 Oh, touchdown. There we go.

Speaker 4 Touchdown. There we go.

Speaker 4 Isn't like his whole career defined by players that have preceded him having big genitals? He's got Nick Foles and then Philip Rivers in Indianapolis with probably the biggest balls in the world.

Speaker 4 Those things are just popping.

Speaker 4 So I understand why he would be sensitive about that.

Speaker 1 That's true. It's a funny bonk, though.

Speaker 4 It's just a fact. It is a fact.

Speaker 1 You've said nothing but facts. That is the facts.

Speaker 1 All right. So, Hank, go back to what we got sidetracked there talking about.

Speaker 5 No, no, no, that was my hot seat.

Speaker 5 My cool throne is parlay enthusiasts.

Speaker 5 Myself, I'm a parlay enthusiast. We talk about it on this show For the Arizona Bowl in the Barcelon Sportsbook, they're offering this one.
It's got me all jazzed up, but it's for new accounts.

Speaker 5 And basically,

Speaker 5 you can bet 10 cents and win $1,000

Speaker 5 with new sportsbook signups. You'd use the Arizona Bowl, AZ Bowl promo code as signup.

Speaker 5 And then between the Arizona Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl, if you make a parlay that wins, you get $1,000 in sportsbook cash.

Speaker 4 I have a question. If it's, yes, PFT.
What if I wanted to like bet just a dollar on a parlay for those for those games? Would I still get that credit?

Speaker 5 If you went three for three, you would get a thousand dollars in your account.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 5 So it's very exciting. It's you know, fun to think about.
Love parlays. It's like a free, you know, it's, if you, it's obviously, you know, it's not given to you.
It's not a free thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 You got to earn it by winning a parlay, which is, you know, fun to do.

Speaker 1 Earn not given.

Speaker 5 Yeah, earn not given.

Speaker 1 Parcel sports book. Bet responsibly.

Speaker 5 Bet responsibly.

Speaker 1 PFT, your hot seat, cool throne.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is Major Biden. Major Biden, the president's dog, the one that used to bite everybody, that pissed all over the place.
Yep. He was my favorite.

Speaker 4 He's on the hot seat because they're rehoming him. He's finding a new home.
Oh, this is like... He's going to live upstate on a big farm sale.
Selena Dunham?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And she just gave her dog back.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, I think that happened like four times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and everyone's like, this isn't right. She's like, I didn't know the internet would be mad about this.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so just like Major Biden bites five journalists and takes a shit in the Oval Office and all of a sudden he's not fit for duty. So he's getting shipped off, I don't know, to some...

Speaker 4 I'm kind of a Major Biden truther. I think they're killing him.

Speaker 1 Which

Speaker 4 I'm not happy about, obviously, as a dog lover. But they brought in a replacement dog, a scab dog.
Oh, no. Commander Biden is the new puppy that they're bringing in.
Also, German Shepard.

Speaker 4 You know who else raised German Shepherds?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think we all do. We all do.

Speaker 4 But they're bringing in a new dog named Commander Biden, and this this dog's just not going to live up to the old dog. No, he's not.
Like, this dog's going to be too well-behaved.

Speaker 4 I just want to say for the record, if the Bidens are actually giving away, if they're looking for a new home for Major Biden, I want Major Biden. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think that's the only dog that I could take right now. I would love to have that fucking little rascal run around my.
I would train him to break news.

Speaker 1 Yes. He would be like.

Speaker 4 Political news only. Yeah, he would be the Hunter S.
Thompson to Leroy's Walter Cronkite. That would be great.
So, Joe, I know you're a longtime Stoole, Kamala 2.

Speaker 4 send Major Biden to me.

Speaker 4 Don't put Major Biden down.

Speaker 4 But it's also kind of weird that they keep giving their dogs ranks in the military, isn't it?

Speaker 1 That is weird. Also,

Speaker 1 I don't think they're going to kill the dog, but you know, someone's going to start the conspiracy theory, which I think you kind of already just did, that they're going to kill the dog.

Speaker 1 All the pictures that Billy's nodding right now, and he's like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 This is going to take down Biden because I'm going to find

Speaker 1 where they killed this dog.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be analyzing all the pictures of Major Biden at his new home. You'd be like, that's a different dog.

Speaker 4 We just fake Melania.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we just opened up how like a terrible conspiracy theory and rotten news starts. It just started right here.
And Billy's going to run with it. And

Speaker 1 it will probably end up with Joe Biden in jail. Yeah.
Listen,

Speaker 4 if he puts Major Biden down instead of giving him to me, he should be in jail.

Speaker 1 Joe Biden and Ghislaine Maxwell and cellmates. Yeah.

Speaker 4 In like a naval prison somewhere.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool throne? My cool throne is Jinkos.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And Jinkos are also back, but they're also on the cool throne.
Jinkos are back. There was a trend piece in the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 4 You know, something's real cool when it's written about in the Wall Street Journal. And so apparently the youths are buying Jinkos.
Prices online have gone up a lot. Purchases have gone up a lot.

Speaker 4 I've kind of done the thing that we talk about when it comes to daylight savings time when you don't change your clock on your microwave, your stove, and your car for like six months until it becomes cool again.

Speaker 4 That's kind of what I've done with Jinkos over there. I've kind of waited out the trend.
So I'm glad that they're back. There are going to be a lot of posers that start to wear them.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you know me, I wear Mugsies. I'm wearing my Muggsies right now, as a matter of fact.
But when it comes to playoffs, you got to rock the clutch jeans. Yes.
So I'm just...

Speaker 1 Are you sure they're back?

Speaker 4 I think so. Okay, all right, all right.
I'm pretty sure

Speaker 4 the Wall Street Journal wrote about it.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 4 So as far as I'm concerned, they're 100% back.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it's very cool to see that. that the kids of today are no longer wearing the skinny jeans and they're opting for a roomier, comfortable fit.
That's beautiful.

Speaker 4 And also, just everybody looks stupid wearing Jinkos, and I love that.

Speaker 1 Yes, very stupid. It levels.

Speaker 5 We need a Muggsy special edition, like John. Jinkos?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, please.

Speaker 4 Muggsy. That would be stupid.

Speaker 5 They wouldn't be Jinkos.

Speaker 1 Right. Wink, nudge, nudge.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good point. I think I've got some extra, some wide-leg Muggsies in the back, Hank.
I'll bring those up. I love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
They already sent us those.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so yeah, that's my goal throwing Jinkos.

Speaker 1 All right, my hot seat is the Arizona Cardinals' Twitter account.

Speaker 1 I'm in a war.

Speaker 1 I'm in a fucking war right now. The Cardinals' account, for anyone who's not spending their life online, first of all, good for you because your life is better than ours.

Speaker 1 But second, the Arizona Cardinals just did not tweet the final score after they lost to the Lions. They tweeted.
We talked about it on Monday's show. They still have not tweeted the final score.

Speaker 1 I'm demanding they tweet the final score. I don't think they ever will.
So now I'm kind of in a tough spot where I have to figure out what my next move is.

Speaker 1 It's going to be, it's going to be a dangerous move.

Speaker 4 This is an all-out battle.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It is.
Because it's really, I'm battling for the city of Detroit. Lions fans don't get to celebrate a lot of wins.
They should get to celebrate this.

Speaker 1 And I'm battling for just what is right in this world. You don't get to tweet your wins and not tweet your losses.
People have been sending me all the hilarious losses.

Speaker 1 Like Arizona lost to Arizona State 70 to 7. They posted that.
Wisconsin, when they lost 59-0 to Ohio State, we posted that.

Speaker 1 Like all these losses that get posted, and they can't post one loss to the fucking Lions?

Speaker 4 Did UVA post when they lost to UMBC?

Speaker 1 Yes, they did. That was said to me.
Yes. Good point, PFT.
And yes. I mean, that is the one.

Speaker 4 I would understand, maybe, if UVA didn't post that. But the fact that they did, they really, you have no excuse if you're the Cardinals.
And

Speaker 4 some might say that they're cursed because

Speaker 4 they didn't post after the loss to the Rams either.

Speaker 1 Right, which is like, we didn't really care care because Rams fans who are they nowhere right it's like whoever happens whatever celebrity happens to be on camera a sideline that right but this matters this does matter because the city of Detroit deserves to own an account online right and not only that it's just simple like they they're on a fundamental level just failing at social media because any any smart person right now would see the ground swell.

Speaker 1 They're getting ratioed on every tweet. Do not stop ratioing them.
It's awesome because PFT and I were talking: like, if anyone is like, oh, you're bullying them,

Speaker 1 it's a team. It's a team account.

Speaker 4 You're bullying a football team.

Speaker 1 It's not a team.

Speaker 1 It's not a person. It's a team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're bullying. Yeah, the person running it is inconsequential.
Yes.

Speaker 1 We don't know who they are. You're bullying a team.
Yes. Right.

Speaker 4 It's almost like we should become, you remember when we became charity terrorists with JJ Watts? Yes. I'm going to donate.

Speaker 4 I'm going to donate to the Church of Satan for every day that they do not post the score. Oh, I like that.

Speaker 1 I'm going to find Commander Biden and kill it.

Speaker 4 Don't you dare. Yeah.
I know Commander, but

Speaker 4 no, I'm not in favor of killing anybody.

Speaker 1 I'm going to find Hunter Biden and kill him. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's the other dog? Actually,

Speaker 4 if you found Hunter Biden, I guarantee you'd just end up partying with him.

Speaker 1 Well, no, I just grab his laptop and he probably is logged into the Arizona Cardinals Twitter account by accident. Yeah.
It's like, oh, okay, cool. I'll just post it right now.
But anyway.

Speaker 1 It's just a failure on such a fundamental level because if they posted it right now, it would be so funny.

Speaker 1 I would flip, just like all of our exchanges with everyone, if you just have a little bit of self-deprecation, if you just say, oh, I fuck up. I'm a human too.

Speaker 1 You're beloved. Like the bar to do something cool online is so low.
You just have to have a tiny bit of self-awareness. And they can't do that.
I will never give up this fight.

Speaker 1 I have them on alerts.

Speaker 4 Whatever happened to respecting the mental health of social media account managers, big cat.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 what about respecting the mental health of everyone in Detroit?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's a good point. Because they are,

Speaker 1 as far as I'm concerned, the Lions have one win. Yeah, it hasn't been official.

Speaker 4 So this should have been the week that the Cardinals account was like, we're all taking a break over here. We're all logging offline because we need to reset.

Speaker 4 We're sick of people replying to our tweets and saying mean things about the football team that we're representing.

Speaker 1 And I do love when people are like, dude, like, get over it.

Speaker 1 Like, who cares? Like, well, guess what?

Speaker 1 My job is to kind of just do this. Like, this is, I basically clear my schedule.
It's like, oh, what's my, what's my job this week?

Speaker 1 Hop into Twitter spaces and harass the Arizona Cardinals' Twitter account. Like, that's the beauty of our job.

Speaker 1 You can, it's not like I had heart surgery on Wednesday and I was like, oh, I got to tweet some mean shit to a football team. No, this is my job.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, what they should do, they should have a picture taken, and then somebody in the background should be holding a sign that says, what was the final score again?

Speaker 1 It was 30 to 12. You wouldn't know because I only follow the Cardinals' account, so I actually haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 4 That's why I forgot because

Speaker 4 that's how we actually get all of our information about the final scores on this show is by just we individually click on all 32 team accounts to see what they post.

Speaker 4 They should just have somebody in the background holding a piece of paper that says the final score on it, and then you maybe you have to zoom in real far to see what the person's holding, and that's it.

Speaker 1 I DM'd the Cardinals and I said, I said, do what people do to us when we get credit on Pardon My Take and they make it the smallest font ever and they like almost like do they do the color gradient where you can't even see it.

Speaker 1 I was like, do that on a picture of your stadium.

Speaker 1 Do that on a picture of Santa with Kyler Murray. I think anybody else.
And I will count that. I will count that as officially posting the final score.
And

Speaker 1 let's just say this. God forbid.
God forbid they lose to the Colts on Saturday and they don't post that. Nope.
Hell. Well,

Speaker 1 at that point, it is a curse. Well, I'm also just,

Speaker 1 the Cardinals, if they just keep losing, I am just like

Speaker 1 gaining an army because now the entire city of Indianapolis is with me. And it's just eventually

Speaker 1 have America behind me against the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 You're Daenerys Targaryen just rolling from town to town, scooping up troops.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 City of Indianapolis, you've been wronged by the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it does put me in a bad spot. We'll get to the weekend.

Speaker 4 Anybody that's complaining about that, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 I want to be perfectly clear. Anyone that thinks that what Big Cat's doing, like it's not a fight in the name of justice, is a loser.
Yes. And you're supporting loser mentality.

Speaker 1 Yes. And it's a fight against a Twitter, a team Twitter account.

Speaker 4 You got to own it if you lose. This is big boy football.

Speaker 1 Yes. And again, all they have to do is tweet it.
They just, they could tweet it at four in the morning, and it doesn't even have to be a graphic. You could just say final, Detroit 30, Arizona 12.

Speaker 1 And it would be like the funniest moment. And everyone would be like, good on you guys.
We can move on with our lives.

Speaker 4 If I were them, you know what I would do? I wouldn't even tweet it out as a normal tweet. I would just reply to one of your tweets to the final score.

Speaker 4 That counts too, right?

Speaker 1 It's so easy so easy but they won't do it um all right my cool throne is america hell yeah yeah just because i was thinking about it bull season man like when you think about what we culturally have given the world I think bull season would be number one where we have found a way to have just endless football for two weeks and a bunch of games that don't mean anything, but we've convinced ourselves they do mean something.

Speaker 1 Like we make fun of soccer friendlies.

Speaker 1 And if you explain this to a European, they'd be like, is this just a friend? No, no, no, no. It's the Idaho Potato Bowl.
Like,

Speaker 1 this is for all the potatoes.

Speaker 4 It's more football. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Part of that, don't you understand?

Speaker 1 I just, there's something to me. And all the broadcasts are quirky, and everything's just weird, and the matchups.
I just love it so much. Soak it in.
There's nothing like bullseyes.

Speaker 4 I love it when they show the gift bags that they give to the players too. At the Idaho Potato Bowl, they all have like a giant frozen thing of crinkle fries that they get.

Speaker 1 It's all the best.

Speaker 4 It is all the best. Just weird matchups between teams that probably have never seen the other team play before ever.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Everything is great.

Speaker 4 Like everything about this bowl game that's on right now is awesome. The fact that it's being played in Idaho on the blue field and it's Kent State against Wyoming.
That's everything I want.

Speaker 1 Everything you want. Everything you want.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 5 Well.

Speaker 7 My hot seat, and we were talking about dead dogs earlier. My hot seat's Michael Vick.
Michael Vick was trending today because the last of his dogs passed.

Speaker 4 All right. So I had to start bringing it back up.

Speaker 1 So Michael Vick's on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 He served his time.

Speaker 4 What was his dog's name?

Speaker 1 This one was called.

Speaker 1 It actually was a really cool story. You should go read it.
Like, they usually, whenever a dog fighting ring gets broken up, All the dogs get euthanized right away and all these dogs got adopted.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I don't know. It was a very cool story, a heartwarming story.

Speaker 4 So, wait, what was the name of the dog, Billy?

Speaker 1 Frodo. Frodo.
Frodo. That's cool.
That's a good dog. That's cool.

Speaker 4 I love pit bulls that have like the softest names ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a tiny, yeah, tiny name. Right.

Speaker 4 My favorite dog of all time that I ever, my used dog that I used to sell, I sold a used dog named Biscuits one time, and he was a giant, probably 120-pound pit bull with scars on his face.

Speaker 4 And he was like a bait dog with his ears cropped real close, but he's the softest dog ever. Biscuits.
I like that. I love you, Biscuits.

Speaker 7 If you're out there, uh billy your cool throne my cool throne is nick saban so a new article dropped on sports illustrated about how nick saban uses this guy called pete jenkins and he calls him his wolf like uh pulp fiction and basically the way he beat georgia one of the biggest ways was that this guy pete jenkins who's like a total savant of football he's this retired guy who nick saban calls all the time uh told him basically uh to tell his d linemen to put their hands up because George has a short quarterback and they bat down four very important passes in that game.

Speaker 4 It was probably one of the reasons why they

Speaker 4 Pete Jenkins.

Speaker 1 No, I know. I'm saying this is it's his version of Ernie Adams.
Yeah, exactly. Right.

Speaker 4 There's also a pretty good chance that he doesn't exist and that Saban's just putting it out there as like a mystery that now, guess what?

Speaker 4 There's one more puzzle that you have to solve if you want to beat Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 There's also a pretty good chance it's Ernie Adams.

Speaker 1 It could also be Ernie Ernie Adams.

Speaker 1 Belichick and Saban have just been sharing Ernie Adams.

Speaker 4 Ernie Adams goes to the safe that's in his closet and he opens up. He's got passports in there under all these different names.

Speaker 1 He puts a hat on that's a houndstooth hat and he's like, I'm Pete Jenkins now.

Speaker 1 Okay, good one, Billy.

Speaker 4 Pete Jenkins is a very, very good.

Speaker 4 What's the word that you use? Alias? Alias. Yeah, Pete Jenkins is a great alias.

Speaker 1 By the way, you can say COVID brain at any time if you've. Oh, COVID brain.

Speaker 4 I'm also shorter than I was. I measured myself today.
I'm down to 5'8 ⁇ .

Speaker 4 I got COVID bones and COVID brain. I'm a long hauler.
I'm gonna be 5'8 for the rest of my life thanks to this fucking disease.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
Jake, your hot seat cool-thrown.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is umpires, but not from the Major League Baseball League, from the Mexican League. One umpire got ejected from a game.
He got ejected. He didn't inject someone because he was drunk.

Speaker 1 Who threw him out?

Speaker 6 He was flipping off the

Speaker 6 fans.

Speaker 6 An umpire just says he had to be escorted off the fans.

Speaker 6 It was the fellow umps like conferred and like talked to him and they were he was like he was like standing in the baseline like as if that's where he was supposed to be standing for the pitch he was shit based i love it it would have been great if he had thrown himself out like when you know that you're too drunk and you put yourself to bed at the end of the night yeah so shout out to that guy his name was uh humberto lobito sains legend okay i like that and uh my cool throne are college quarterbacks i'm part of my take kidon slobis just transferred to pittsburgh we just had Kenny Pickett on.

Speaker 6 He was a highs in the finalists. Hopefully,

Speaker 6 Slovis can have a similar route.

Speaker 4 Yo, QBU.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, I like this.
I feel like we should just try to figure out who's going to go to Pitt. And we should just...
Pitt's a fun school to just have in your back pocket because I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's like they don't get a lot of hype, but they're Steelers fans, so we kind of love them.

Speaker 4 The jerseys look cool in quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 They play at Heinz Field. I don't know.
They're just.

Speaker 1 I like Pitt. I like Pitt.
And also, they won my game of the year, which I'm going to come up with another game of the year before the year's out. I have to.

Speaker 4 You've had four now?

Speaker 1 Three. Two.
I'm one and one.

Speaker 4 I thought your HBCU game of the year.

Speaker 1 No, that was totally separate. I mean, it's HBCU.
That doesn't count. Okay.
It's HBCU game of the year.

Speaker 4 That's a little bit.

Speaker 1 No, it counts, but it doesn't count as a game of the year. Yeah, no, it counts as well.
It's three-fifths of a game, big cat. Oh, damn.
It counts as a qualifying game of the year.

Speaker 1 Also, that was before I got my booster shot. Okay.
It doesn't count.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That's hot seat cool thrown. Let's do.
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Speaker 1 Okay, guys on chicks.

Speaker 1 And then we're going to do our weekend preview, which save if you need something for Friday.

Speaker 1 Save if you need something for Friday. We'll also throw in a fire fest, a bonus fire fest.
Everyone thinks of them in the back of their head.

Speaker 5 I got one. Why do guys keep their apartments so dirty? And also, why do guys last-minute Christmas shop?

Speaker 1 Okay, so the dirty apartment thing, I actually

Speaker 1 oftentimes think about apartments I lived in with like roommates and just how gross they were, but how normal it was and how funny it is to think back.

Speaker 1 In college, I lived in an apartment with four of my best friends, and we had not one,

Speaker 1 but two

Speaker 1 outdoors

Speaker 1 garbage bins inside in the kitchen. Oh, yeah.
And you would take out the trash every two weeks. They're so big.
It actually makes makes sense.

Speaker 4 It's more sanitary to do it that way because if you have a small one, then the bags just pile up.

Speaker 4 In my college experience, there's probably still a video on there online somewhere, but I was living with Pat, hard factor Pat, and we used to just throw our trash out onto the cement patio and just burn it sometimes.

Speaker 4 Yeah. We'd have controlled burns

Speaker 4 on an apartment deck, not in a backyard.

Speaker 4 We would just burn our trash.

Speaker 1 Collecting shit. I had a stadium seating, which was incredible.
Like, just like come home and just bring stuff home with you. Like, it just, I don't, I can't really.

Speaker 5 At what age does that no longer become acceptable?

Speaker 1 I think it's probably somewhere around, like, 25 to 27. You start to, it's a slow process.

Speaker 1 It's not like one day you start to clean up, but there's one moment, there's a moment that happens somewhere in that like 25 to 27-year-old age group where you're like, you know, it would be nice.

Speaker 1 It's like, My house not being a fucking pig sty every time I come home. Like, maybe the dishes not being in the sink all the time.
Having control of my own remote.

Speaker 1 Like, when you have that click where you're like, I'd like to live on my own.

Speaker 4 Usually there's a girl involved. Yeah.
And so you move in with a girl and they're like, hey,

Speaker 4 is it okay? Maybe I can show you how to flush the toilet after you're done with it. And that's the first step.
And you're like, okay.

Speaker 4 Hey, let me show you how to take the sheets off and wash them more more than once every six months.

Speaker 1 And you're like, oh, wow.

Speaker 4 I actually enjoy sleeping on clean sheets.

Speaker 1 You have to clean sheets?

Speaker 4 Yeah, clean sheets. This feels amazing.
Wow. These towels, they don't smell like they did, you know, 12 months ago.
Yeah, the little things. The little things.
So,

Speaker 4 yeah, there's usually like a girl involved that teaches you the art of not living in a just a rancid, disease-infested environment.

Speaker 1 Well, it's either a girl or it's one roommate that you just can't stand anymore who just drives you to the point of like,

Speaker 1 I have to live like a somewhat clean life. Like, not all the way clean, but I can't come home and have like flies and stuff.
It's when the flies show up or the girl shows up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there was one moment for me where I just put a pan in the sink and I waited for probably four or five days to clean it up. And there were actual like maggots that were in the pan.

Speaker 4 And I was like, you know what? Sometimes you got to hit rock bottom. Yeah.
And then you choose to change your ways. I also think that it changes sometimes.

Speaker 4 The less time that you spend in your apartment. the cleaner it stays.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So when I was just home for four days in a row, I was walking through my apartment today and I was looking down next to the couch that I was on the entire time.

Speaker 4 And there were three bags that were from the same place that I had ordered food from. Oh, yeah, yeah.
One inside of the other, inside of the other, the exact same bag. And I was like, this

Speaker 4 really shows me that I need to be out of the apartment more often because I can make a mess somewhere else. Yeah.
But I want to come home to a clean spot.

Speaker 1 I often think back about the time that we ran out of toilet paper and we just didn't get any new toilet paper for like multiple days. And I had to wipe my ass with coffee filters.
And like that.

Speaker 1 And at the time in college, I was like, that's fucking hilarious. And now I think back, I'm like, what? I was a different human being.

Speaker 1 So I actually, I never, like whenever a 18 to 25-year-old dude does something like online or in life where it's like somewhat like, what is this person thinking?

Speaker 1 I'm never judging them because I'm like, they have half a brain because I also had half a brain.

Speaker 4 Yeah. At my upstairs that I had in this one townhouse, we didn't have a coffee table.
We just took one of the doors off the hinges and just balanced it on two chairs. Yes.

Speaker 4 And that was our beer pong table and our stand-up coffee table that we had. Yes.
We're ahead of the time. It's like a treadmill desk.
Yes. You just had to stand up and eat on the door.

Speaker 1 Was there a puddle underneath that table? I don't know.

Speaker 7 That's a gigantic puddle that never dried up.

Speaker 4 There was carpet, so it was probably worse than a puddle.

Speaker 1 I used to have a dog, the bounty hunter, signed autograph picture above my bed.

Speaker 4 That's pretty cool, though. Think about that.

Speaker 1 Like, what? I mean, that guy's still in here. Don't worry.
But, like, to that level, and be like, dude, this is so sick.

Speaker 4 That is pretty cool, though.

Speaker 1 All right, growing up. That was growing up.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 Is it bad that I'm taking my new boyfriend on a trip to Costa Rica that I bought for my previous ex-boyfriend's birthday, but we couldn't go because of COVID?

Speaker 5 So after we broke up, I still had the tickets, and now I have to use them. I bought them, so it's not a big deal, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, that's actually an incredible dream scenario for any guy to fall into.

Speaker 1 That's perfect.

Speaker 1 She sounds awesome, actually. Yes.

Speaker 5 Happy holidays, Santa Katz, Mrs. Cometer.
Tough for the

Speaker 5 X, though, for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but fuck them.

Speaker 4 That happens, yeah.

Speaker 1 Fuck him. Fuck him.

Speaker 5 Happy holidays, Santa Katz, Mrs. Cometer, Grinch, Hank, and the Elves.

Speaker 5 My boyfriend of seven years says our New Year's resolution should be to get in shape, and he has said so for the last five new years.

Speaker 5 He also happens to be in really good shape because he was a former D1 athlete. Is he just trying to tell me I'm I'm fat? How do I politely tell him to fuck off?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I don't want... See, I'm in a dilemma right now because I don't want to call you fat.
No. So, no, that's not what he's saying at all.
Nope. You're not fat.
You can just, you're not.

Speaker 4 He should love you just the way you are. Yes.
You're not fat.

Speaker 5 At all. Hey, Daddy Cat, WFT Commenter, and Hank Spanks.
My boyfriend tore both his labrums' shoulders

Speaker 5 playing football in high school, and he didn't have surgery to fix fix them. He is 25 now and uses the pain as an excuse for me to always be on top during sex.

Speaker 5 This way, he just gets to lay there while I'm doing all the work. Literally, all I want for Christmas is to have good sex where I'm not on top, and he puts some work into it.

Speaker 5 I don't know how to approach him about this, but I know he listens to your podcast and would listen to what you have to say.

Speaker 1 Okay, well,

Speaker 1 he just listened to this, dude. Stop making that excuse like it's bullshit.

Speaker 4 Um, actually, big cat, so I have two torn labrums in both shoulders, so I know where this guy's coming from. And it's just the only position that's comfortable is just lying down and getting blowjobs.

Speaker 4 Anything besides that,

Speaker 4 I literally, it's too much pain.

Speaker 1 I'll pass out. Dude, come on.

Speaker 1 If this podcast can get one guy to maybe do the occasional doggy style instead of just laying there like a dead fish.

Speaker 1 We've done our job.

Speaker 4 All right, here's the thing. If you're having sex, you don't always have to be supporting your entire body weight on both hands.

Speaker 1 Maybe get a harness that comes down from the, from the sex swing. Yeah, a sex swing that just holds you in place while you just rhythmically go up and down.

Speaker 4 Or yeah, yeah, you can be in the harness and he can be on bottom and he'll have to do work from the bottom. No, this guy's completely full of shit.
Like

Speaker 1 yeah. Yeah, Billy?

Speaker 7 Get the elective surgery to get your labrums done and then that's at least eight months of more, I'm inactive. I can't do anything.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The problem is, though, if you get both shoulders done at the same time, you can't function as a human being. You can't use your arms at all.

Speaker 4 I think most doctors won't even do both at the same time unless it's an emergency. But

Speaker 1 this is a hilarious predicament. I kind of respected it.
I hope he's listening to this and dude, just like, you know what? Also,

Speaker 1 here's the bonus for you, buddy. This is basically a free Christmas present.
He's like, you know what your Christmas present is?

Speaker 1 I'll get on top.

Speaker 4 For once.

Speaker 4 One time. One time.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 All right. Last one.
I've recently discovered that my boyfriend runs a burner account where he berates liberal politicians.

Speaker 5 I caught him trolling Nancy Pelosi while we were at an art gallery the other day. We don't talk much about our political views, but he knows he would be offending my beliefs.
Should I confront him?

Speaker 5 I also heard him say that he would suck a fart from AOCs.

Speaker 4 She did the stars butthole.

Speaker 1 Please help me. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 Legend.

Speaker 4 If I were you, I'd probably just ignore it because it sounds like he just needs an outlet.

Speaker 4 So if he's going to be a normal person and have a good relationship with you, but meanwhile on the side, he's just like going ham on Elon Omar, then I think that might be a net positive for your relationship at this point.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 1 What a fucking great guys on chicks. Yeah.

Speaker 4 By the way,

Speaker 4 if he's such like a MAGA guy, what's he doing going to an art gallery?

Speaker 1 Yeah, true. Good point.
Sounds like a lib lib in disguise.

Speaker 4 It sounds like he's a self-hating lib.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well, that's probably what the issue is.

Speaker 5 He wants to suck afar from AOC. Like, that's positive.

Speaker 1 That's true. Yeah.
He clearly has a little crush. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you should actually get dressed up as AOC, do some role play, and see how he reacts to that. You might actually turn him into a lib.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Good guys on chicks.
Way to go, everyone. That was a good round.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's do.

Speaker 1 Someone's here.

Speaker 1 Who's here?

Speaker 1 Rico's here?

Speaker 4 You want to get Rico in here for a weekend preview?

Speaker 1 Hey, Rico. Why are you upset? Zero.
No.

Speaker 1 Zero.

Speaker 1 You can keep running some of this. Rico looks like, I think he's robbing Barstool because he's got three bottles of champagne in his hands that he took off everyone's desk.

Speaker 4 Merry Christmas, Rico. Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. Can we clarify that? What does it say? What does it say? Where's the camera? Rico, we'll cut it.
Happy holidays, Rico, bars.

Speaker 1 Happy holidays, Rico. So you got yourself? Yeah, I got it for myself.
Oh, okay. Nice.

Speaker 4 Wait, Rico, who are you giving those to?

Speaker 1 My people. I take care of my people.
The big three? No. I don't get one?

Speaker 1 Get out of here. Get out of here.
Never come in your hole again.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 Weekend preview. What do you think Rico's giving those to?

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 Hank's going to get mad at me. He's definitely giving it to the chicks, though.

Speaker 1 All right. Weekend preview.

Speaker 1 What's the records? It's getting really tight.

Speaker 6 It's getting really tight. We have the same standings as last time.
Hank and Billy currently on the trip. PFT, by the way, at the time of this recording, still has one of his week 15 picks to go.

Speaker 6 He has the over for

Speaker 1 Washington. I do too.

Speaker 4 Wait, which one did you take?

Speaker 1 I have the over in the Rams. Okay, so we know.

Speaker 6 You had Patriots Colts.

Speaker 1 Ah, fuck. Okay.
That was my mortal lot. Yes.
Okay. You're right.

Speaker 6 Sorry. Yes.
So PFT still has one more pick. But right now, PFT is up three games on Hank.
And then there's one and a half games. It's me.
Big Cat, you're one and a half behind me.

Speaker 6 Then it's one and a half Liam, and then it's just a half for Billy. So it's very tight.
Anything is still up to me.

Speaker 5 I'm behind by a half.

Speaker 6 Yes, because you got the Raiders win yesterday. The Monday win.

Speaker 1 Wait, so he's behind a half on Liam. How many am I up on Billy?

Speaker 6 Big Cat, you are three up on Billy. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is going to get tight. This is getting tight.

Speaker 6 So you're also three behind Hank. So you're mathematically in the best spot, but there's still so many games.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm totally fucked up.

Speaker 4 I control my own games.

Speaker 1 No, PFT is in the best spot. I'm probably in the second best spot.
Because Because PFT just doesn't, like, unless someone else gets crazy hot, I just don't know. He loses.

Speaker 4 I'm just the hottest gambler in America.

Speaker 6 That's three games of separation. Everyone else

Speaker 1 with a half an hour. It would be nice.

Speaker 4 Oh, and for the record,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie, guys. Like, I'm not trying to.
It's a holiday season, but PFT and kind of carry the show.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 4 Wait, in what context?

Speaker 1 No, I'm just kidding. Oh, I thought.

Speaker 1 I'm confused. I'm saying we shouldn't have to drive.
We carry the show. Yeah, yeah.
Also,

Speaker 4 I thought you were bringing it up in the fact that, like, if you and I were in a car together and we get into a car accident.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I'm just saying we shouldn't have to drive because we carry the show. We should get to rest.
Yeah, well, because

Speaker 1 you guys are getting old, though. We are getting old.
Because Billy would be kept in an undisclosed location.

Speaker 4 We should never actually be in the same room ever. That's true.

Speaker 1 Billy would fucking, he would, he would buy a fucking rocket launcher and just wait on the highway. RPG, you get to go.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Billy would buy a Tesla for us to make the drive and then program the autopilot to take us off the road. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, so it's getting tight. This is fun.
This is exactly what we wanted. It's chaos.
If anyone just doesn't even remember, the second place person and the last place person are driving to LA

Speaker 1 for the Super Bowl while all of us fly.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great.

Speaker 4 So I don't want to make excuses, but I am technically still 13-0 in my last 13 games when I've been wearing the hat to watch the games because I didn't wear it on Sunday when I went 2-1.

Speaker 4 But I'll take 15-1. I'll take 15-1.
Okay. But for the record.

Speaker 6 Because over hits tonight, the only thing standing between you and the streak was the Urban Meyerless Jaguars.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I didn't realize just how great of a coach, how great of a coach Urban Meyer must have been. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
Hank, get us started. So we're doing the lines as of right now.
Obviously, when you see this posted

Speaker 1 on Saturday, people are going to be like, what the fuck? COVID, we don't know. It's literally the lines as of 650 on Tuesday, December 22nd.
Hank, 24th.

Speaker 5 I'm taking the Browns plus seven versus the Packers.

Speaker 1 Hungry Dogs, the Browns. We're going to go favorites first.

Speaker 5 Favorites first, my bad. I always do, yeah.
Yeah, that's my bad. I just have the Browns written first.
I'm going off my notes, not the proper order. That's my fault.

Speaker 5 My favorite is Chargers minus nine versus the Texans.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 4 That's mine.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I like it, Hank. Texans are hot off of a win.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but did they peak too early? And also the Chargers, they're going to be hungry.

Speaker 4 I don't think that there's ever been a game in NFL history that has a bigger disparity between the two head coaches in terms of how much they like to punt. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You got Brandon Staley and David Culley.

Speaker 1 How much they like to coach?

Speaker 4 How much, yeah, probably how much they like to coach. Cully is already

Speaker 4 fired, right, at the end of the season.

Speaker 1 If they fire him, that's actually fucked up.

Speaker 4 It is fucked up how they used him for the season, but in another way, I mean, he got an opportunity that he probably never would have had on any other team.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 good favorite. I'm surprised you didn't take the patriots hank

Speaker 5 no i mean that's just uh makes me seem like you're nervous i am nervous oh i'm definitely nervous i'm very nervous what are you nervous about i'm nervous about the bills you know having a chip on their shoulder nervous about having a rookie quarterback who didn't look great last week you're not in uh mac america great again

Speaker 5 No, I'm in Mac America Great again. I'm just not, I'm nervous.
I'm not like overly confident. I'm expecting us to win, but I'm nervous about it.

Speaker 5 So it's one, you know, I don't want to lose that game and then also lose it on this pick.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going full send on Mac Jones for the rest of the year. I think that I think he needed to get his ass kicked a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, the cleanup from Monday, it was pointed out to me that this game does decide the AFC East.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because the Patriots lost to the Dolphins.
The Bills have not lost another game in the AFC East right now. So that's the first tiebreaker.

Speaker 4 That was a great onside kick.

Speaker 1 That was a a ticket.

Speaker 4 In the Idaho, it went five yards.

Speaker 1 Matt kicking, baby.

Speaker 6 Dolphins are mathematically alive.

Speaker 1 In the AFC East?

Speaker 6 Yeah, the Morrison Sportsbook, they're plus 8,000. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hammer that.

Speaker 1 Sorry. So your favorite, Liam, your favorite.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm going with the Jets, minus two and a half. Ooh,

Speaker 1 I knew it would be. Okay.
Yeah, I don't feel confident in a single one of these after looking at them. And I just figured that was so random.
That was so random. You figured they're so random.

Speaker 1 That was so random. Of the Jaguars.
Or the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 I agree that the Jets are better than the Jaguars.

Speaker 4 Don't the Jets play a different shitty team every weekend?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems like.

Speaker 4 I feel like they have... What, Billy's saying no? They play some good teams.
Yeah, but I feel like their schedule this year has just been a series of mismatches.

Speaker 1 There's also just not a lot of good teams left. Yeah, it's true.
A lot of teams are really bad.

Speaker 4 Good point. Good point.

Speaker 4 I think every team has been slandered on the show at some point.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 I don't know who's good. I really don't.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'll tell you who's good.

Speaker 1 I don't buy that. I like how everyone's like, there's parody.

Speaker 1 There still are like five to six teams that I think have been more consistent than the rest of the NFL all year.

Speaker 1 It's the Cowboys, the Bucs, the Packers, the Chiefs, the Patriots, and then throw in the Colts. The Colts are probably in there.
And then maybe even the Rams. No,

Speaker 1 the Colts.

Speaker 1 The Colts are in there right now, but I wouldn't wouldn't count the colts as being a team that's been consistent no they haven't been consistent all year but they're playing great football right now like they're a good team yeah so they are a good team right now i think we do like the oh who's good i i think there are some very good teams

Speaker 7 yeah counterpoint yeah the bucks scored less on the saints than the jets did

Speaker 1 there you go i mean the bucks did suck they suck all the time but what well yeah i mean but

Speaker 1 any given sunday you are correct you are correct that any team can win any given Sunday.

Speaker 4 What about any given Tuesday?

Speaker 1 Any given Tuesday, maybe two. But there are definitely good teams.
I'm not picking on you, Billy. I've seen, like, writers write this being like, no one's good.

Speaker 1 I totally disagree. There are like probably six or seven teams that are definitively good.

Speaker 4 I did like Bruce Arians' explanation that he gave on Antonio Brown coming back to the team. He was like, our football team just really needs him because he's very good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, last year he's like, if he has one fuck-up, he's out.

Speaker 4 It has nothing to do with whether or not Bruce Arians has forgiven him for his fuck-up. It's like, well, Godwin got hurt, and our offense sucks.
And Leonard Fournette's out. We scored zero points.

Speaker 1 We really need this guy. Yep.
Very badly. All right, my favorite.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with the Colts are a pick'em right now, but I'll take him as a favorite. Is that okay?

Speaker 4 Or do you want me to take him as an underdog? I don't think you can take him as a game.

Speaker 1 You can't take either, right? Yeah, you can't take him as a favorite. You can't take the game? No.

Speaker 6 No, I feel like you can take them as either.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, no, no.
They're not a favorite. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'll take them as minus a half then. I'll take them as if they, if it's a tied game, I lose.
Okay.

Speaker 6 The Colts minus a half?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let's just do that, right? That's fair.
Because you're right.

Speaker 1 It's not an under. So it's got, they have to win the game.
And I'm taking it out of pride and principle.

Speaker 1 And it does kind of go against my whole, I like to have all 10 fingers, but the Cardinals need to lose this game, and they have to be forced to tweet about it. Yes.
Otherwise,

Speaker 4 I might.

Speaker 4 What if the Cardinals tweet about it, though, before the game?

Speaker 1 You're kind of fucked. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of daylight between now and then.

Speaker 1 I'll stick with it. I'll stick with it.
I think it's been so long that they're cursed no matter what.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, irregardless, I still think that the Cardinals are just frauds. Yeah.
It's just a fraudulent team right now. They're soft.
And again, they're top five fraud right now in America.

Speaker 1 I do feel bad for Cardinals fans because it's not their fault that their Twitter account is fucking lame, and it's also not their fault that their team falls apart for the second year in a row.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for them.

Speaker 1 but maybe have them tweet the final score and they wouldn't be cursed as cursed as they are.

Speaker 1 Who's up next? Billy. No, you have the Jets.
Jake.

Speaker 6 I'm taking the Packers minus seven against the Browns.

Speaker 6 Browns obviously had a lot without COVID, so I don't know if they'll get everybody back. And the Packers are just being the Packers recently.

Speaker 4 And Aaron Rodgers is faking his toe injury.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 And you also heard Hank just take the Browns, so you're going head-to-head with him. Yes, I am.
All right, so Hank, you like the Browns as your underdog?

Speaker 5 I love the Browns, the underdog. Hungriest dog.
I think they, you know, are like 17% chance, I think, to make the playoffs. They still want it.
They played well on Monday night.

Speaker 5 This is it. This is their season.
Plus sevens, a lot of points. And yeah, hungry dog.

Speaker 4 So Baker's coming back, right? It's not going to be Nick Mullins again?

Speaker 5 He said he tested negative. He has no symptoms.
Or he said he has no symptoms. He just needs like one more negative test or something.
So it looks like he'll be back.

Speaker 1 I love Nick Mullins.

Speaker 4 I do too. I think Nick Mullins is the perfect backup, backup to scoot in for a game.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 1 Liam, your underdog.

Speaker 1 I'm taking Giants plus 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 Too many points. Again,

Speaker 1 that's right. Okay.

Speaker 5 Liam,

Speaker 5 you're really relying on the city of New York. That's a lot.
That's asking for a lot. It's true.

Speaker 5 Just warning you.

Speaker 1 Jets and Giants is your pick.

Speaker 6 When they win, they win together, though.

Speaker 1 No? That's true. That's also true.

Speaker 4 Greatest city in the world. Greatest football system.

Speaker 1 I think they did one. They sync up.

Speaker 1 No, they did. They did.
I think the Giants beat the Saints in the... Oh, two times, memes is saying.
Two times. Ooh.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That's my trend I spotted this week. Yeah, I'm parlaying it.
I'm parlaying it right now. All right.

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 4 Your underdog. My underdog is the Ravens, plus two and a half over the Bengals.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's

Speaker 4 the two and a half is really good for me because if the Ravens lose, they're going to lose by one point for not going for it. Yeah, some some weird situation.

Speaker 1 I also love Huntley.

Speaker 4 I just, like I said on Monday's show, he's my new quarterback crush. I think that he's going to go in a little tear here.

Speaker 4 I want, if I didn't already have complete and total faith in Taylor Heineke, I would want Huntley on the football team.

Speaker 1 What if Lamar plays?

Speaker 4 If Lamar plays, that might play. If Lamar plays, I actually feel like the Ravens have a better chance of beating the Bengals with Huntley than they do with Lamar.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And not because Lamar is the worst player overall, but I think that whatever offense they're running with Huntley.

Speaker 1 Roxy, yeah.

Speaker 4 It's clicking for some reason right now. Yes.
And so you don't want to go all the way away from that. I don't know.
I just like Huntley. And if he doesn't play, then I'm going to sound like an idiot.

Speaker 1 That's okay.

Speaker 4 We all sound dumb. But also, I mean, the Bengals have been playing well for the last couple weeks, right? They won in Denver.
And then before that, that they smoked

Speaker 1 49ers.

Speaker 4 In overtime. Yeah.
In a game that they probably should have won. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 4 But they're still playing okay. They're playing good football.
I feel like the Bengals are a team that you can almost time the swing of their pendulum a little bit because they're not

Speaker 4 great, but they're not bad either. Huge game.
They're just going to go back and forth. So I like the Ravens in this one.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's also my pick. Oh, that's also your pick.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Everything you just talked about. You talked yourself in circles and then

Speaker 1 Billy just came and smashed you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake,

Speaker 1 where's the fucking love for Tua? Plus three and a half Monday night. Are we together on that one?

Speaker 1 I thought that was a misprint. Tua?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 6 How do you not take points with them, right?

Speaker 1 Plus three and a half. Tua versus Taysom.
Electric matchup.

Speaker 1 That is a great.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins late season in a meaningful game in a dome with those uniforms. I like it.
I like it.

Speaker 4 I don't like those uniforms in New Orleans, though.

Speaker 1 In a dome?

Speaker 4 I don't think it plays. I think it plays better outside.

Speaker 1 All right, so we have everyone's underdog. Okay, Hank, overs.

Speaker 5 My over is the Raiders and the Broncos over 42.

Speaker 1 It's a low over.

Speaker 4 It's a lower.

Speaker 5 Derek Carr, they were showing the stats and like his comeback wins and just his over.

Speaker 5 He's a gunslinger.

Speaker 1 He doesn't throw interceptions. He doesn't throw interceptions.
He simply fall downfield.

Speaker 5 42 is a low number. Drew Locke, another gunslinger.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I think it's just going to be your classic shootout. I think two great quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 You can like build in at least one

Speaker 4 turnover from Drew Locke resulting in a touchdown. A pick six or a fumble six is going to happen, Drew Locke.

Speaker 1 For sure. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You just hope that the pick, the interceptions don't happen in the red zone because

Speaker 1 he can be the perfect thing for an over by throwing it downfield or also just fucking up and

Speaker 1 points the other way. Did you see that pass good? Yeah, it was bad.
That's true.

Speaker 1 This is going to fuck people's minds up, so let's not talk about the game.

Speaker 1 Liam, you're over.

Speaker 1 I'm taking Bills Pats over 43.5. Ooh.
I just feel like both of these teams have the potential to score. I feel like one of them has to.
Yep.

Speaker 4 I like this over, too. I like it.

Speaker 1 I like this over.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like it, too, because it's almost like people still have in the back of their minds that game in Buffalo when they're factoring in the score of this game, which the over should have hit in that game, right?

Speaker 4 We were on pace in the first quarter. Yep.

Speaker 4 And there's not going to be as much weather this time. We don't think.
We don't think. We don't know, but we also don't know.
We also don't think. Yes, we don't think.

Speaker 4 we don't know. I'm taking the over.

Speaker 1 Okay, my over is going to be the Bengals and the Ravens. The Bengals offense has been stagnant.

Speaker 1 Good to come out and break out against the Ravens defense that lets up tons of explosive plays. You're going to get maybe throw in a couple Jamar Chase bombs.
I don't know. Tyler Huntley, Magic.

Speaker 1 Some T-Health across the middle. 44.5.

Speaker 4 I like that too. I see both teams scoring over 20 points.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Jake. No, Billy, you're over.

Speaker 7 Cardinals, Colts, 49 and a half.

Speaker 1 Or,

Speaker 7 yeah, 49.5 for the over.

Speaker 1 Is that a game you expect no points?

Speaker 7 No, I think there should be tons of points.

Speaker 1 We're doing the over, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But sometimes you pick the games that

Speaker 1 you reverse it.

Speaker 5 Well, you can't try and lose when you're in last place. Like, he's got to try and get out of last.

Speaker 5 I'm assuming all these you're trying to win because it wouldn't really make sense if you were trying to lose at this point.

Speaker 7 There's no point in losing right now, although

Speaker 4 I also feel like Billy would be the most stoked out of all of us if he had to drive across the country. Yes, by far, by far.

Speaker 1 If Billy and I, I said it earlier, but if Billy and I had to drive across the country, I would just

Speaker 1 make it a challenge to Billy: be like, here, boy, see how fast we can get across the country.

Speaker 1 Just never sleep. Monster energy and never sleep.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 7 No, I mean, my reputation's on the line here. Like, I got to start picking, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, people are going to be really disappointed.

Speaker 4 Don't know anything. You'd work so hard to build up the reputation as a football scholar.

Speaker 1 Everything that people expect out of Billy football is on the line. Exactly.
Part of the false.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 6 I'm with Big Cow once again. Baltimore, Cincinnati, 44.5.
We have a lot of repeats in every category.

Speaker 5 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 That's actually good for me. And you, PFT.
Yep. I like it.
The more repeats, the better at this point,

Speaker 1 if you're separated.

Speaker 1 Hank, end us off with your under.

Speaker 6 Banged up.

Speaker 5 Tampa.

Speaker 5 Carolina under 44.

Speaker 1 That's mine as well.

Speaker 1 Total trust. Oh, no.

Speaker 5 Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 That's three of ours. I just, I feel like this game.
Tom Brady. Seems too easy.
It seems like one of those games that Tom Brady's like, I'll just find a way to win no matter what.

Speaker 1 We'll do the bare minimum, but we'll win.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we'll get a lead. We'll run the ball like 70% of the time.
Right.

Speaker 5 It will never be in doubt, but it's not going to be a blowout.

Speaker 4 Right, because going into the last game against the Saints, they weren't as knocked up. They had those

Speaker 4 bad injuries, right? So they had both Fournette and Godwin. Did I just say knocked up? Knocked up.
They weren't pregnant going into the last game.

Speaker 4 But no, they didn't have those injuries, so their game plan was a lot different.

Speaker 4 I feel like Tom Brady is a guy that, when he knows what the situation is going into a game, if they're injured, he can figure out ways to get around that with the game plan. So, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 Also, the weakness of the Bucs defense is their secondary. And can anyone on Carolina throw a ball?

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Your under Liam.

Speaker 1 Also, okay. PFT.

Speaker 4 My under is Jets Jags, 41.5.

Speaker 4 I feel like this is a recipe for like a 13 to 6 game right here.

Speaker 1 Let me just play the devil's advocate real quick. What if Zach Wilson does something sick?

Speaker 4 No, he's going to do something.

Speaker 4 Is that what Billy was predicting?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to do something, and the the Jets are going to be sick.

Speaker 4 He's going to do something, and they're going to be sick. But something for Zach Wilson is just like, if he throws one 60-yard touchdown, then that's something.

Speaker 4 And then he'll throw two interceptions. Mr.
INT is coming back. And then the Jaguars are just

Speaker 4 a nuclear waste. They're Chernobyl right now.

Speaker 4 He's not being allowed to go into Jacksonville for the next six months after the season's over.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 7 My favorite under is Bill's Patriots, 43.5. I think it's going to be another under game.
Belchek likes to keep it low scoring when he really needs to win.

Speaker 7 And I think this is a need to win for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Is that a stat you got?

Speaker 4 Yeah. I know.
I just roll with it.

Speaker 1 I like the sound. I agree with that.
It sounds very good. It sounds right.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, I mean, like the first Bills game, like, think about the Rams Super Bowl. He, like, likes to control the game by keeping it low.

Speaker 1 What about the Eagles Super Bowl or the Panthers Super Bowl?

Speaker 7 Or the Falcons Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah, those were all high scoring.

Speaker 1 That he could have needed to win. We'll have someone dig that up.
Give us... I don't know how you definitely have the Chiefs playoff games.
I don't know how you define needs to win.

Speaker 1 So someone do that. It can be very subjective, but give us the over-under record on games Bill Belichick needs to win.

Speaker 4 Billy, all you need to say is like

Speaker 4 Bill Belichick against mobile quarterbacks, very good coach.

Speaker 4 And again, don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 But you can just say it.

Speaker 1 It's like doing the whole, like, you know how he beat Alabama, mobile quarterback. Yep.

Speaker 4 Johnny Manzel.

Speaker 1 Once in a...

Speaker 1 Cam Newton. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Who else? Jake.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm also a PFT. Jacksonville Jets under 41.5.
First of 10 wins.

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 5 Are you doing a little strategy here?

Speaker 6 Are you accusing me of cheating?

Speaker 1 I just asked a question.

Speaker 1 Never in my life. Strategy.

Speaker 1 You would be cheating.

Speaker 4 Jake, you've never cheated in your life at anything?

Speaker 6 In this contest.

Speaker 4 You said never in your life, though. So all of a sudden...

Speaker 1 So now you've just admitted to lying right there. Now your credibility is exclusive.
I just left.

Speaker 6 I just didn't include all the details.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 A lie by omission. Is Jake doing some strategy? He's also the one who keeps the records.
Like, Jake could change my picks every week, and I would be like, okay. I can't believe you guys are even.

Speaker 6 Hank got you to bait. I've been nothing but honest.

Speaker 4 Thanks for the radio damage.

Speaker 1 You're the one that brought up cheating, Jake.

Speaker 5 I never mentioned the C-word.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Okay, Quick Fire Fest. Before we go, send everyone off.
Merry Christmas to everyone. We'll see you on Monday.
But Quick Fire Fest.

Speaker 6 I do have proof, by the way. I have a timestamp.

Speaker 4 Like you're holding up a newspaper next to your picks.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 6 Yeah, 6.10 p.m. is when I enter my picks on the dock wait

Speaker 1 and you did you like screenshot that no i just i'm on the google doc and it says 610 p.m is when i put in my picks is the last edit got it for the record even though me and puba have some picks that are similar billy no one accused you of cheating because even if you cheated you'd probably mess it up

Speaker 1 i think everyone just assumes that billy's cheating so

Speaker 1 It's only a half a game to get out of the last game. Billy's mad we didn't accuse him of cheating.
Like, wait, I'm smart enough to do this. What the the fuck?

Speaker 5 Yes, is doing a strategy cheating.

Speaker 1 Like, yes.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest. So, this, I've been obviously like home quarantining, chilling on my phone.

Speaker 5 And this song, it's like, it's just a song that's on TikTok, but every time I go on Instagram, it's like a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Wait, you got COVID?

Speaker 5 I don't have COVID.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've been quarantining, though.

Speaker 5 Been, yeah, I've been saying safe close contact. I was very close with PFT and he tested positive.
Very close.

Speaker 5 This, I'm i'm gonna play it oh this is like every instagram story real every single instagram video i like it just pops up like i can't do anything if i watch an instagram video then the it'll automatically scroll to a video playing this song and now my entire life everything i'm doing this is in my head like this is just the soundtrack to my life Is it the same video that keeps popping up or is it no?

Speaker 1 Everyone uses it on every video. It's so

Speaker 5 this is a video of a guy driving in the snow. If I keep going, it'll be like a video of like someone in a waterfall.
If I keep going, it'll be like, I want to start doing.

Speaker 5 I was thinking about remaking the videos just like with trashed NYC streets.

Speaker 4 What's the name of the song?

Speaker 5 I don't, uh, I don't even know. The guy's name is, I looked it up, though, because I needed to download the song.

Speaker 1 There's like four songs that everyone uses. It's a Madonna remix.
This one drives me crazy, too.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 1 And then you turn to the camera. Go

Speaker 1 those two songs. It drives me nuts.

Speaker 7 It's very crazy. The last two TikToks that Big Cat did.

Speaker 1 You say the last two TikToks that Big Cat did, like, I did them.

Speaker 7 Well, I, they're trending songs.

Speaker 1 I, yeah, no, I didn't choose. I have never made a TikTok.
You make them for me. I know.
Also, were you going to tell me about my nose hair in that video that I sent you?

Speaker 7 I don't see a nose hair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got blown up on that one there was just a fucking nose hair sticking straight out of my nose and it was one of those situations where i was just i was literally walking my dog minding my own business billy text me like hey can you make this video real quick i did the nice thing i sent it back instantly and then like four hours elapse and i just get start getting tagged on twitter with pictures of my fucking nose hair and people

Speaker 5 bad news though those

Speaker 1 hair No, you get a

Speaker 7 Go Little Rockstar one and that one, and they're doing like quarter mill views.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because these fucking platforms just brainwash you by putting every single video in your feed with the song. Whatever.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's just, it's catchy, but like, I just, that's like, that's, that's just like, if you're wondering what's going on in my head on a regular day, it's just like me walking around and that song playing.

Speaker 5 So I can't get out of my head.

Speaker 1 Yep. I'm with you.
I'm with you. All right.
PFT?

Speaker 4 Don't really have a Fire Fest to complain about right now because COVID negative. Listen, I'm a survivor.
I survived COVID. The only thing I can say is

Speaker 4 I did shrink an inch and a half, so that's tough. That is tough.
But

Speaker 4 we move on from that and we regroup, and it'll be fine the long term. Height doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Hank's on a crazy delay, which is very funny right now. I don't know what his bet was.

Speaker 5 I have Antonio Gibson's first touchout score. He got fucking stuffed at the goal line.
Crazy delay.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah, so you're a little shorter?

Speaker 4 I'm a little shorter from the COVID, though. Yeah.
From the COVID. But, I mean, that's just one of the side side effects that you deal with.

Speaker 4 And, you know, you move on and everything will be fine in the long term. I've survived COVID.
Yeah. So I have nothing to complain about.
I'm blessed.

Speaker 4 I'm thankful to be back here in the studio with you guys. Hank's ahead of us, actually.
And Hank is.

Speaker 1 We got to end this show because now it's getting, there's too much football going on.

Speaker 4 Mentally, spiritually, Hank is leading us all.

Speaker 1 I tweeted it, but I took my son to the dentist, and it was a very big betrayal of trust. He looked at me like, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 Did you get a cute video of him afterwards?

Speaker 4 He was all gassed up.

Speaker 1 No, no, gas up.

Speaker 1 I did kill the vibes because the dentist made a balloon animal for him. And I was like, oh, did they teach you this at dental school? And didn't think that was funny.

Speaker 1 So, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dentist sucks no matter what, no matter what age.
All right, Billy, Jake, quickly.

Speaker 7 TikTok's just destroying my brain. I'm just being fed so much misinformation on TikTok.
My brain's turned to mush because I watch too much TikTok.

Speaker 1 You have control of your own life.

Speaker 7 I know, but I have to like do TikTok.

Speaker 4 You have to post to TikTok.

Speaker 7 Right, but in order to be good at posting to TikTok, you have to watch TikTok.

Speaker 1 Right, that's true. Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 4 Yesterday, Billy said that girls can't make machine gun sounds with their mouth because it was a trend on TikTok.

Speaker 4 So I don't know if it's a TikTok issue or if it's a Billy's brain believing things that should never be believed by anybody. Yeah, it's both.

Speaker 5 We're killing Billy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake, wrap us up.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was flying yesterday and a dog sat behind me, but I survived.

Speaker 1 See, that's my dream.

Speaker 4 Yeah, every time I get off a plane and I see a dog get off the plane after me, I'm like, why couldn't I have been set next to the dog?

Speaker 1 This is Buperino. All right, let's go numbers.
Six.

Speaker 1 88.

Speaker 1 19.

Speaker 1 GG 19. Gary.
I'm going to go 22 for that guy. I'm going to start.
22 is going to be my new number.

Speaker 4 Liam, what'd you say?

Speaker 1 Four. Six.
Six. Four.
Three for me.

Speaker 1 Oh! We got a three-way jam at the top. We got a jam.
We're going to have to redraw. No number.
Here we go.

Speaker 4 Three-way. This is top.

Speaker 4 Score a gammi.

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 4 Gonna spread my wings.

Speaker 1 Merry Christmas, everyone. See everyone on Monday.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 7 Ducks have corkscrew penises.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Sage anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's a night. I close my eyes.
Day to find you. Begin to pray.

Speaker 1 Shine of tears of joy.

Speaker 1 down

Speaker 1 for your love of king.

Speaker 1 Today

Speaker 1 we're coming. Today's where

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 all

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know, needless to say.

Speaker 1 I'm all designed, just hear the mile.

Speaker 1 But I'm easy. I have to be

Speaker 1 stole a little

Speaker 1 girl.

Speaker 1 Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's the best you can say for someone.

Speaker 1 We're the ones who are all

Speaker 1 here.

Speaker 1 We're the ones who are open.

Speaker 1 We're the only firework.