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Oh, we're going to rock down to Electric Avenue. It's part of my take isn't about martial sports welcome to part of my take presented by tostitos the official chip and dip of the nfl today is wednesday december 22nd and i'm not gonna say the washington football team is dead because they're not dead.
We still control our own destiny. They're on life support.
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad tonight.
Garrett Gilbert played well, though, considering the situation he was put in. Yes, on a curve.
I would like to actually agree with Philadelphia Eagles fans on something. I think Philadelphia Eagles fans were absolutely right that this game should not have been played tonight.
It should have been played on Sunday. Yep.
The weather would have been totally different. Wet ball tonight.
Wet ball. Missed throws by Garrett Gilbert.
The refs missed a really bad roughing the passer call, which Tom Brady would have gotten, according to Julian Edelman, who watched it live with us. But, yeah, it was the real turning point of the game was that first drive of the third quarter where they marched down the field, and in about two minutes in the second half, I was like, this team defense is completely gassed right now.
They were. They were hands on hips, no pass rush when the Eagles marched down the field.
Now, Jules is here, so we've done this a few times to much acclaim, critical acclaim. The guest is Julian Edelman.
He watched the games with us. We hung out.

Wet ball expert

Julian Edelman. What do you do

with a wet ball? Like

really wet. It doesn't look

really wet. It was really wet.

On Sunday it was really dry.

There was no torrential downpour.

There was no torrential downpour. But in that case

you take off the plastic gloves and you

gotta put on the leather gloves. Or you go

bare hand. A lot of guys will go bare

hand. But when you have those

I don't know. Trench will downpour.
But in that case, you take off the plastic gloves, and you've got to put on the leather gloves. Or you go bare hand.
A lot of guys will go bare hand. But when you have those plastic gloves that are tacky with like a regular dry ball, when you have them with water, they're just absolute slick.
So you've got to go to the leather glove. It's not like you – there are certain goalie gloves in soccer, I know, that you put a little bit of water on.
You get it a little bit wet, and they get stickier. They attack you, yeah.
Depending on how. Those aren't plastic, though.
Those are like felt weird shit. They're like Velcro.
There's leather. There's glove talk, by the way.
Nah, we don't do that one. All right, so what was your biggest takeaway? So the Washington football team, they didn't have their quarterbacks.
They didn't have both of their quarterbacks. Garrett Gilbert, spot start, like you said, PFT.
I think he did okay given the circumstances. For the Eagles, though, I don't know what to make of Jalen Hurts because there are times when I'm like, he's not the guy.
But nights like tonight, it feels like he has a command of the offense. And I've given Nick Sirianni credit.
Like, it feels like he has a command of the offense and they do they've Dave I've given Nick Sirianni credit like it feels like he has molded his offense to fit Jalen Hurts and what he does best and they did it well tonight thoughts I mean I can agree with that with some sort but uh you know you you take a look at, and they turned the ball over twice early in the game.

They got in a 10-point hole, and thankfully they were playing the Redskins.

I'm sorry, PFT, but they had 23 guys on the COVID list. They got a guy starting at quarterback that's in his third day in the uniform.

So this isn't like something to look at Philadelphia and say,

hey, they look pretty good. I mean, they played the way they should have in the second half against a decimated Washington football team.
And, uh, you know, Jalen hurts. He's going to, he's going to do what he did tonight.
He's going to make some plays where you're like, you should hold on to the ball. Let's have ball security in the pocket.
He's going to make some plays where he threw the interception, and then he's going to make some really good plays with his legs. He's going to run around, create a second play, and hit guys down the field.
And he's shown us that he does that consistently, but, I mean, I just don't think that's like a long-lasting plan. Okay.
So now I have a questionagles fans listening to this right now are gonna be like jules is a hater no because they lost in the super bowl to the eagles but you didn't play in that super bowl i didn't play so do you have any residual hate for that super bowl where is this coming from absolutely not actually in 2009 i uh went to a pop owner banquet in philadelphia had a great time. So you have ties to the city.
I have ties to the city. So you can play quarterback for Nick Sirianni next year maybe instead of Matt Ryan.
People will put you on a short list of who's got ties to the city. Rocky's one of my favorite movies.
I mean, I love Philadelphia. Don't pander.
They can smell that. I'm not, though.
They're tough people. They're very similar to Boston people.
Say the word water. How much water was on the ball tonight? There was a lot of water.
There was a lot of water. Water.
Water. I look at this as just a flip game from last year.
This was our Nate Sudfeld game that the Eagles gave to us in week 17 or 16 last year. So we're just giving it back to the city.
Sharing is caring. It's going to be tough for the football team to move forward after this, especially, like we said, their defense is just...
So what are our playoff rankings? For the NFC? Yeah, does Philly have a shot now? Oh, yeah, they've got a shot for sure. They're what, 8-7 now? They're 7-7.
Or 7-7? No, 8-8. 7-7.
No, hold on. 7-7.
I'm pulling it up. I'm pretty sure they're 7-7.
We're all professional analysts. Yeah, we're professional analysts.
I'm almost positive. Yeah, they're 7-7.
So the playoff picture in the NFC, like I said, the Washington football team is not dead, but they're on life support because the problem they run into, and for anyone who shut the podcast off, any Eagles fans that shut the podcast off, the moment I said the Saints beat the Eagles, and then I corrected myself like three minutes later. Shout out to everyone who tweeted me that.
The Eagles have the tiebreaker over the Saints. Unfortunately for the Washington football team, the Saints have the tiebreaker over the Washington football team.
So they are now in 10th. Washington football team's done.
They're in 10th. They have two teams that are ahead of them, and both those teams have the tiebreaker.
All I want is just the playoffs. I don't ask for...
If we make the playoffs two years in a row, as far as I'm concerned, that's a dynasty in D.C. That's close.
Yeah, you're right. I like the direction that Washington's going in.
Ron Rivera's got this team playing with nobody. They don't have any of...
They got one starting defensive lineman from week one. They're decimated everywhere.
They didn't have Heineken. They were rolling with nobody.
They don't have any of them. They got one starting defensive lineman from week one.
They're decimated everywhere. They didn't have Heineke, and they were rolling with something kind of special with him a couple weeks in a row.
I like Heineke. I like what they got going forward.
They have a more disciplined football team than they've had in a long time, I feel. And that's what you get with Ron Rivera.
I just think when they get the pieces, they need a lot more pieces to start feeding that team. They just don't have certain parts of the team that Ron Rivera needs those guys in.
You know what I mean? Chase Young got hurt early. That's like a big blow.
Who's going to be the defensive captain? He's a big defensive guy. And then quarterback is Heineken in the future.
But I think they have more direction than Philadelphia. I just think Philadelphia is more athletic.
I think the Eagles have a very good shot of getting to the playoffs. They play the Giants next week.
Then they play the Washington football team again. And then in week 18, they have the Cowboys who I threw this theory out.
Well, they got smoked by him earlier this year, but I threw the theory out. If the Cowboys are set in their playoff spot, which they probably will be because they're going to win the NFC East.
They're going to sit Dak. They might sit Dak because his calf has been – it's clearly like lingering.
So who are the remaining three? So they have the Giants next week at home. That's a dub.
Then they go two Washington football team.

Then they have the Cowboys at home.

So they could absolutely run the stretch here.

I'm a believer in the Eagles.

I just think that if a team can figure out, like, this is what we do

and this is what we're going to do every game.

They just run it down people's throats. Their offensive line is awesome, and they just run it, run it, run it.
I don't know. I feel I can get you somewhere when they know what they want to do.
And they've done it pretty well against a lot of teams recently. I'm pro Eagles.
No, I mean, they could sneak in. You never know what they, that NFC East.
I mean, they're always beating each other up. It's true.
It's very hard to get a sweep in that division. I mean, so going into these last games, they may have a shot.
I think Jules is talking about the macro versus the micro. So this year, at the moment, the Eagles are trending in a better direction.
Yes, exactly. But you're talking about the future of the organization.
I think the future of the organization is looking in an upward trajectory for Washington. I believe in Ron Rivera.
I mean, he did it. He had the Carolina Panthers, you know, a pretty good football team for a long time.
They were making the playoffs yearly. And I just think the kind of guy he is, he's a very well-thought-out guy.
He's been around the game forever he's coached with a bunch of amazing coaches so he's he's had an experience at that level of rebuilding an organization I just don't know if you know Sirianni I don't I don't know yet he's still too early but it's been kind of up and down up and down with with his team and I don't know if they necessarily have the horses that they actually want. Like, do they want Jalen Hurts? Do they not want Jalen Hurts? Well, let me throw this out there.
They have three first-round picks. That's going to be huge.
So, like, that, to me, like, the Eagles are building a baseline, and it's like if you can add three first-round picks. how for from like a perspective of when you're a veteran later in in your career first round picks like do you know right away do you know the first practice like okay this guy's gonna help us right away or this isn't gonna work out like do you can you tell can guys tell almost instantly he you see something.
Like, they're usually really raw. I mean, we didn't have a lot of first-round picks when I was.
And it was late, yeah. You know, with the Patriots.
I think we traded out. We had, you know, Nikhil Harry.
We had the Florida. Who was the Florida D lineman that he was coming off a couple ACOss though.
So he never kind of panned out. You got Malcolm Brown in the first round.
Malcolm Brown, he was a good football player. There's always one, you see a play in practice where you're like, yep, that's a first round.
Or whether it's some sort of explosiveness, some sort of, you know, how high a guy can jump. Or like an instinctive play where you know the guy doesn't know any material.

He doesn't know the material.

He has to, early on in camps, he doesn't know his material.

He doesn't know what the offense is doing,

but somehow makes a crazy play, an athletic play.

You see that with the first-round talent sometimes.

You can call it out.

What about with a rookie wide receiver?

What's one thing that you see in a guy that gets to the league

and what do they have to work on, even if they're the most athletic freak coming out of college? What's the one thing that it's going to take you a couple years to master this particular part of the craft? I think that's been changing. We're seeing that with Jefferson in Minnesota.
You're seeing that with Debo Samuel. You saw that with Medcalf in his first couple years.
A lot of these guys, there's so much more information now for younger players on how to train, what kind of drills to train, what ball drills to do. With the game, how it's changed in college with the throwing and how defenses how defenses are playing how offenses it's evolved to the nfl so i i think that receivers are actually transitioning at a higher rate in these last five six years than they have ever before yeah and you can i mean you can see it by this is totally anecdotal but it feels like the first round has more receivers

being picked than it has been in the past.

Well, you also mentioned two guys in particular.

You said Metcalf and Jefferson.

I feel like we've talked a lot on this show about how Eagles fans are like, I can't believe

that we didn't take Jefferson and we got Rager instead.

And we've kind of lost the track of, I can't believe that we took Ortega Whiteside and

not DK Metcalf, which is another one that they've done. Yeah, but Ortega Whiteside is fun to say.
Yeah, it is. Ortega Whiteside.
Right. Barthelona.
But so this might be sound like sour grapes because the Eagles just beat the football team tonight. So maybe it is.
But is that something that you think like transitioning from college to the NFL for a wide receiver is really important to have in a good organization? Like, because those are two were well thought of coming into the draft. Also, they're quarterbacks.
Yeah. Yeah, true.
We all can say what we want to say about Kirk Cousins, but he knows how to distribute a football. And when you have a guy that is like Jefferson, just an absolute freak, he's found ways to get him the ball and got on the same level and developed a chemistry with him.
Same with Russell and Metcalf. And a lot of it has to do with the quarterback.
Yeah. I mean, most of it, because as a receiver, you're dependent on one person for all production, and that's the quarterback.
You only go as far as how the quarterback can deliver you the ball, what you do to get in a relationship with the quarterback for him to want to throw you the ball there's four or five other guys six other guys in different personnel groups so you're competing every day in practice for that with other guys but it's also everything to make the quarterback comfortable to throw to you okay so you talk about relationship that's a good segue to the other game that happened, the Rams-Seahawks.

The Seahawks got screwed.

They got absolutely screwed.

That was a blatant pass interference.

It was the Saints call all over again.

Yeah, it was insane.

And then the insult to injury, they get called for whatever it is.

I don't even know what the official.

It wasn't taunting. Kicking the ball.
You kick the ball after. Showing the ref up.
15 yards going the other way. Just brutal.
Like, the Seahawks are not – they weren't going to compete to get in the playoffs. But it's still, you want to win the games.
You want to win the games in division. And they got screwed.
But I bring up relationships because we poke fun of Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford eating breakfast together every single morning. But obviously it works.
How much is that like media, oh, they just love the story and they latch onto it? And how much is that actually very, very important where a quarterback and a wide receiver are like spending quality time off the field or to start the day in the facility? How much does that matter on the field? I mean, I think it matters a lot. I don't know how far it was the speculation.
We've just made it a big deal. It probably isn't even that big.
Did you used to bring Tom Brady breakfast every day is what we're getting at? No, what he ate was too expensive and wasn expensive and wasn't at the facility so did he would you if you asked him to go to breakfast would he say no no he'd probably invite me over to his house so his chef could cook for us god he wouldn't have you like bring breakfast to him no he was always accommodating he'd always like hey babe just come to the house you know i got so we'll have some of my chef cook yeah but but really like to big cat's question is how much of that chemistry gets built in the stuff that you don't see on the practice field? It's huge because when you can start to think like another man thinks or you think you guys are just talking, whether it's football or not, then you learn mannerisms. You learn, you know, what drives a guy.
And that goes a long way because then you can adapt how you think or you can latch on to that and then you guys are starting to think the same you know and if you go out and you work together and you're talking football you know if you're eating breakfast together you're probably sitting there talking about either the practice before you know what's going to be installed for that day how do you think I should run that if it's a third down day you're eating on a thursday whatever hey what do you think you saw with this db i watched the you know there's just constant football talk and and it and it and it flows over to like just regular relationship talk you know family how's you doing that the more you care about someone the more you're going to work harder for someone and it goes vice versa for the quarterback you know once he likes you a little more, he's probably going to want to throw you the ball because there's a trust level.

Yeah.

So I've always wondered.

So if you're a wide receiver, every wide receiver always thinks they're open, right?

They always think that they can beat their man.

When a wide receiver says to their quarterback, I'm open, do you take that very seriously?

You won't say that unless it's like, hey, I'm open. I'm open every time you need to get me the ball.
I can beat him every time. Is it something you don't burn? You know what I mean? You can't say it and just be like, I would imagine Odell in every huddle is like, I'm open.
Would you say that to Tom Brady when you weren't 100% sure that you could beat your man on every play? I would tell him the truth. If I knew I was covered, I wouldn't go out there.
The film doesn't lie. You don't want to be the guy who says, yeah, I was open.
Then you go watch film as a team and you're blanketed. Right.
But it was never really like that.

We were different. Trent Dilfer actually told a story recently that he said, Shannon Sharp, one of the best qualities he had was that he was always 100% honest and right when he was on.
He would say, I'm open here, and he would always be right. Like, always be right.
This brings me back to a story. So we're sitting, I don't know what game it was.
It was when Randy Moss was on the team. And we're sitting, and Randy was sitting at the end of the bench, and Brady goes, hey.
And I think Randy was a little pissed off. You know, he wasn't balling out that game or whatever And Brady goes Hey Randy were you open And he was notoriously lonely He wouldn't say anything He would just look at him And he would go like this Two fingers up Like a touchdown You know what I mean Every time he'd go Yo Randy were you open He'd just go It would have been a touchdown he wouldn't say anything that's all he would do and then he would go back but he's right because it usually would be a touchdown and that's awesome so when randy was on the team how much playing time are you getting on that team you were not much you weren't getting a lot but welker was getting a lot of those catches underneath right in in in 2009 my rookie year welker he was banged up at the beginning of the year.
So me and Randy, week two, played together a bunch. And then Welker tore his ACL then, and then we played in a playoff game together a bunch.
And then the next year he was there for, I think, six, five weeks, six weeks. we traded.
He got traded back to Minnesota.

But, man, he was so fun to be around.

He was so funny and just electric.

And the way that you saw the catches he made in practice,

and he just was a character, man.

Can you even say to Tom Brady, hey, I was open on that play

while Randy Moss was double covered?

Because Randy Moss in double coverage is more wide open than pretty much any receiver in single coverage. At that time, I didn't talk.
Randy Moss, Joey Galloway, Wes Welker, I was still a puppy. You never got caught having a foursome and then Tom Brady wouldn't throw you the ball anymore because he's like hey i don't approve that lifestyle because that's what they're saying is happening in seattle right now what what he means by they he means him pft yeah so dk metcalf got his shit aired out by some thought who was like oh dk didn't make me sign an nda so i'm gonna put this all over snapchat and tell the world that he was asking me for a foursome.

And now that news came out.

Now Russell doesn't pass him.

I mean, he threw him the ball a few times tonight.

He's not taking the shots at him like he used to.

It's just a fact.

If you look at his stats since that story came out, he's like punishing DK for being a red-blooded American male.

Free DK.

Hey, you know, I can only speak for myself.

I don't know.

How many foursomes have you had? And how many included Amendola? That's actually a fair question. Yeah, but Philly, man, I think they got a shot.
They got a shot. Oh, no, I got you.
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Christmas. Wow.
Yeah. You got to make it.
You got to make it to have a partnership with Grand Theft Auto. It does feel cool to be like the game I was obsessed with playing and played nonstop when I was 20 years old.

Could you imagine that meeting with Dr. Dre, rock star? Dr.
Dre is sneaky, filthy rich. Oh, yeah.
Filthy? He sold these by $500 million. Was Dr.
Dre the one like a billion dollars or something? I think it was like five. He's dude.
Was Dr. Dre the one who, when the whole Aunt Becky scandal was going on with like

rich people paying for their kids to get college

he like posted a picture being like my daughter

got in on her own merits and it was like in front

of the Dr. Dre building at USC.

I might have had that story wrong but it's something

like that. That's a great story to think about.

I mean Grand Theft Auto is just

a fantastic video game.

I remember Brady built this insane house in LA

and ended up selling it for a boatload of money,

like $35 million or something.

I don't know what it was.

Why'd you do your Belcher voice there?

I don't know.

And so, whatever, it was a boatload of money,

and Dr. Dre bought it and tore it up he like he tore it out i actually it was like it it was like the most beautiful house i've ever seen but dr dre like tore it up had like did some insane changes to it listen i actually kind of back up Dr.
Dre because if you're crazy rich, the ultimate cuck move is to live in another man's house. You've got to tear that thing down.
I'd rather live in Dr. Dre's house than Tom Brady's house.
But I wouldn't want to live in an... Imagine living in a house built by another man.
No. Imagine how good your body would feel if you live in it.
I would never. Tom Brady's house, your house, there probably so many like foam rollers everywhere.
You'll never catch me in an already built house. It's like the Equinox Hotel, you know? You just go there.
You got like bands everywhere. Yeah, real alphas build their own houses.
Protein shake stations, avocado ice creams. So Big Cat's joking around and trying to distract us from the fact that the Bears also played.
We're going to get to it. Monday night was terrible.
I know how your brain works. No, I was going to get to it.
From your perspective, Jules, because I've heard a few people say bad things about we can talk about Matt Nagy in a second, but I've heard people say bad things about Justin Fields. I'm of the mindset that you can't judge anything that Justin Fields does this year because it's under the big dark gray cloud of Matt Nagy looming above him.
They're using him in fucked up ways and not playing to a straight. He's got a cannon for an arm, and they're not really letting him push the ball downfield that much.
From your perspective, do you think you've liked what you've seen so far from Justin Fields, or can you start to kind of feel that out? Be nice. That's tough.
I mean, if you take a look at his film, you don't really see progression. You don't see as much progression as you would like to see.
And that usually comes from the people that are developing him. So I would agree with, you know, it just seems very toxic right now with the whole situation in Chicago, Matt Nagy and what's going on.
Ryan Pace, yep, Ted Phillips. Listen, I'll break down the whole, like, it's a shit show.
I have one very important question about Justin Fields. How important is it for a quarterback, a rookie quarterback, to play with the ones all training camp and, like, going into the season? I think that's part of the the calculation here that gets missed that Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace in their fucking buffoonery had Andy Dalton doing the entire OTAs the entire uh training camp with the ones and never gave Justin Fields that chance to like hey dude you're future.
Let's get you like with everyone from day one on the same page going forward. How important is that? Or am I totally off? I mean, it's it's important if he's the guy right away and he comes in and you can see he's the guy right away.
You got to let him go out and compete it out. And but I think I think he was.
They just they promised it to Andy Dalton. See, I wasn wasn't I'm not there so I can't I can't answer that question but if if if I were to see Andy Dalton play that's telling me as a player that he's not ready right Justin Fields wasn't ready and they did they wanted to maybe protect him from going out like you kill a guy's confidence that's a huge so you're a believer in that because we've been we've had our minds changed by mark slareth like five years ago what's slareth say he was like if you're the guy you're the guy and if there's only been one guy to really do that and come out on top and that's peyton manning like who had like a terrible year what they ended up with they fired the coach they in Tony Dunn.
You know what I mean? Like they brought in a whole new thing,

and he lived that like eight, whatever, how many interceptions he threw.

Like that's like the real only example of throwing a guy in the fire.

But that's not saying that.

That had like a kind of a shaky year at first.

I mean, Justin Herbert kind of defied that last year.

Yeah, his point was like if you're the guy, you'll overcome anything.

Like that's part of being the guy.

Thank you. That's kind of true.
Right. So his whole point was, like, you can't – like, of course, you can physically ruin a guy if he gets beat up to a point where he's got injuries now.
But in terms of mentally – because I think we had the discussion. It was, like, five years ago.
It was like, do guys then start, you know, they look at their line instead of looking through their progressions. He's like, then he was never going to be the guy.
If he was going to end up being worried about getting sacked before throwing it downfield, he was never going to be that guy anyway. I mean, it's kind of a chicken and egg.
You've got to develop guys. I mean, guys their first year aren't going to be the same guy they are in the next year or the third year.
The jump that you get when you're around a facility and you know the routine. It's hard to just evaluate a guy the first day and this is going to be our guy.
Right. I mean, there's not that many cases of that.
Somebody should play a drinking game for the word guy. Guy.
I think we've set an all-time podcast record. You've got to be the guy.
If you're going to be the guy. The guy.
So I guess the question is. That's a Schlereth term.
Is the guy always inside you? Yeah, right. Was that guy always there? It's always there.
Or can just. The guy's always in there.
Can a slappy become a guy? No, the guy is always there. There's always in your heart right right so it better find out if there's a guy in there earlier than than later you always want to have a guy inside you right i mean if you have the guy inside you usually the guy right yeah you are a guy i guess you could be the guy well because you have two guys you'd be a power.
And you've got a guy behind the guy. Yeah, a guy within the guy.
Like a nesting guy. All right, so the Bears, though, it's simple.
It's a dysfunctional dumpster fire for an organization. It looks toxic right now.
It is. A lot of emotional decisions being made by Nagy in that game.
He looks like he's pressing a little bit. Yeah, because he's a dead man walking of knows it and so does ryan and i'm not a man to talk about another man's job just no we don't we never would say anyone should get fired the um but it just seems toxic a little bit right now and i'm i'm an outsider looking at i don't have any intel any it's bigger than that though it's not it's not naggy's whatever i'm like over because he's he's already fired that's a distraction but you know that also goes into the development of the quarterback yeah when he doesn't like maybe he's thinking if he's thinking he's not going to be there next year then he ain't thinking about what he needs to be thinking about and that's getting better each and every day in practice and doing it right in practice everything roots from practice and guys that take it like dead serious those are the guys that you always see that come out of nowhere that are like the guy that you know he was a practice he was lighting up the defense on scout team and you know what i mean like that's when you see if you're your guys okay so i have a question off that but real quick so the bears are just a dumpster fire it's it's top it's top down it's tough it's the fact that George McCaskey has Ted Phillips an accountant making football decisions and he's not a football person and like they need to strip it down not only front office not only coach but like ownership like all of it because it's just it was deja vu watching on Monday night I was basically watching the same thing that happened seven years ago with mark trussman on a monday night football game week 15 getting their fucking teeth kicked in at soldier field with a dead man walking whatever i'm over who would you want to coach the bears any any any sexy ryan day um i'm gonna throw a name name out there for you i i have one name in my mind in my mind Leftwich.
I would be okay with Byron Leftwich. What about Brian Dayball? Yeah.
Butterball? Ski ball. Ski ball.
You corrected me when I said that. Yeah, you got to go right.
Ski. Like those little skeets? Ski balls? So I do think they probably have to go an offensive guy.
If we're going to throw out a defensive guy name, I actually – I think D'Amico Ryan in San Francisco is doing a great job, and I just love Kyle Shanahan and anyone who's around him. You just want Kyle Shanahan.
I want Kyle Shanahan. I want them to throw as much money at Kyle Shanahan and bring him in and have him be the coach.
But I don't know. It's got to probably be an offensive person.
It has to be – I think the Bears are in a spot where they need to, almost like Peyton Manning, when Peyton Manning went to Indy, they basically were like, fuck the defense. We'll just load up on offense and worry about the defense later.
The Bears kind of have to do that right now. They have to be like, we have to put everything behind Justin Fields.
There's a lot of tradition there on defense. But we have to put everything behind Justin Fields and worry about the defense after that set.
I think the defense played really well, actually. Yeah we had no line all of our cornerbacks and safeties was awesome last night he's been a long time he's such a fun player to watch i love i love nothing more than watching like just a big fat defensive tackle that's strong as shit and will get sacks by pushing their offensive lineman into the quarterback to me that's the best play in play in sports.
Put them in the lap. Get them off the spot.
They do, though, they need to hire someone who can run the whole thing. Like a president.
Yeah, like the name that's been thrown out there, Trace Armstrong, Bear for Life, who's a power agent right now. He understands all the football world's relationships, how to run an entire organization they need that they don't need just a gm they need a guy who can basically say we're this is the 10-year plan don't fuck don't fuck with me for five years don't talk talk to me for five years then we'll do a check-in it's very tough a lot of i mean if you look i mean owners owners are a little impatient owners are impatient these days yeah yeah everyone wants results right away what about ron rivera to be that guy on post football team yeah no he actually seems like he would be a good fit after after he's done coaching absolutely i think a team would be well served to like hire ron rivera to just be in charge of all football matters yes chicago guy absolutely wait so all right so this is what i was gonna ask the practice thing you brought up which one we use that like guys who practice really well end up being that practice matters more than people realize you that like that's how like that's how you see right like you always see like an undrafted guy you'll see in practice like him practice.
You can feel. What's his little Miles? A little secondary guy for the Pats right now.
I'm an analyst, professional analyst. I'm now on my own head.
We're definitely going to have someone give us a guy tracker. Oh, yeah.
No, I want to know the stats. I knocked it down.
My guess. Let's take a guess.
As of right now. Miles Davis he's my guy.
And he's kind of blue? No, he was an undrafted guy. But, like, for an example, like, you see guys, there's guys like him that, like, come in or Malcolm Butler.
You always see guys that, like, all right, this guy in practice, he's balling out. He's playing hard.
He's probably not listening to, like, the tempo of the game because he's competing. Like, those are the guys, guys that think they're too cool to practice or they take it as a joke or they don't know how big it is.
Even if you're a first-round draft pick or a second-round draft pick or a third, like those higher draft picks, you see guys like that come and go. They don't take it serious.
They don't understand how big it is. And that's where you root everything from.
So that's what I was going to bring up because I was a little surprised that Mac Jones and some of the Patriots were so open about, like they said they had a terrible week of practice in the bye week. They said, I think the quote was, we've ruined the bye week.
We did not practice with energy. Were you a little surprised to not only hear a Patriot say that, but also be like whoa they weren't practicing well that's weird like Belichick nah because I remember we came off of we came off of a we were a young team in in 2013 and they're a young team like they have they have a couple older guys with like McCourty and Slater and Andrews now he's getting a little older like they have older veterans but like majority of that team is young when when your quarterback's a rookie you know that's crazy and and they could they could have hit a wall like they don't this is like week 14 these guys are used to playing 10 weeks 12 weeks and they get a month off go you know go home for Christmas go to the bowl game collect a bat you know what i mean it's it's a completely different thing competitive stamina starts to come now but bringing it back to like our story we i remember we we won a game it was the week we came back and we played uh carolina remember they beat us with the the no call on on gronk when keek lee was there and they were a really good football team it was a a night game, right? Yeah, night game, Monday night.
It was Monday night football, and Cam was playing good. I had the worst hangover of my life that night.
I remember I was sweating. I was still hungover from Saturday night on Monday night and just sitting on the couch sweating.
Yeah, exactly. But we were a young team, and we didn't take that week of practice.
You can kind of take it for granted. And the teams that I always were really good, like the veteran teams, they took advantage of those weeks to self-scout, work on fundamentals, work on things, not go through the motions.
You have to have a real good set of leaders at all those spots to get that going going which I'm not saying they don't but they have a young team so like it I could I could definitely see it yeah and when when Belichick came out and said I'd like to apologize to the media yeah that was short with you what was it what kind of mind games is he playing I don't know but that's why he's a Jedi or he's up to something he's Sith sith i don't know what it is but he bill belichick coming out and being like hey sorry sorry that i wasn't overtly friendly with you guys that's on me i love you all what's going on here you know what i guess you know my dad told me people soften up a little bit when you get older you get a little more wisdom you start you know you start being a nicer guy. Maybe that's happening.
What is he, 70 now? He's getting soft? I'm not saying he's getting soft. No, that's Bolton board material for him.
Actually, this is what he wants. I'm not saying he's getting soft.
This is exactly what he wants. He wants people to be like Belichick's soft so that he can come out and just motherfuck everybody.

You told me on Sunday, like, this loss might have been good for Mac Jones because now he gets a good Bill motherfucking. You need to.

You get a couple weeks.

You get a little bad taste in your system.

And then, you know, that's like now it's playoffs.

Now you, like, start simulating playoffs.

Each week's a playoff game.

You need to have that. You need to feel a little tension.
You need to feel a little uncomfortable. And the best teams I was on, they were comfortable with the uncomfortable.
You know what I mean? Yeah. You told us, too, that Belichick, the first thing he does every single morning is listen to Pardon My Take, right? I think so.
Him and Bearish. of bearish oh yeah we've heard the legend yeah he's a legend him and bears i think they probably go through that with their morning his job is to just say like no they won't do it right to all media requests to anything yeah everything we were supposed to you know what's funny is we were supposed to have matthew judon.
I think he was dealing with something, so it's like not like something problem. He was just like something came up.
But PFT and I were joking like, why did we ever think that like we would get a New England Patriot in the middle of the season? Like he's going to come on and he apologized. And it was like we're totally fine with it, but it was just funny.
I'll tell you right now it could be bill evolving you think so it could be like he's evolving to the times a little bit maybe because it makes him more personable with the team is he gonna get on snap face soon i i don't he used to say that stuff all the time he knows right he knows what they're actually called he's got to make that shit he's got to but it was funny because we'll have guests cancel on us sometimes, and we're like, oh, that was kind of rude. Matthew Judon, we're like, oh, no, we understand, dude.
We never thought that this was a mistake. Yeah, we'll talk to you after the season, and it will be a great interview.
No, he got zapped. Yeah, right.
It's like, you definitely didn't ask. Nah, nah.
All right, last thing. So give us – you do cover the sport professionally inside the NFL.
Professionally, Alex. No big deal.
Miles Bryant. Inside the NFL streaming on Paramount Plus.
Miles Bryant. As you say, Miles Davis.
Miles Davis is it. Miles Davis.
That's why I said kind of – Bryant, that's my boy too, my bad, dude. Very cool.
Yeah. Cody's teamer.
Give us two teams in the AFC and the NFC that you're like all right those are Super Bowl teams two teams yeah because there's obviously debate and we have this later on in the show you'll hear it that I I threw out that like everyone who says oh there's no good teams I disagree I think there are clearly some good teams uh that are Super Bowl contenders there's just a lot of teams in the middle that like one week they can be look great and one week they can look terrible but there are like a uh I don't know you want to call it five six seven teams I think they're in my mind that are better than I'll give you three on each okay you gotta go the Chiefs are the I mean they're getting they're getting hot at the right time. When their defense is playing well, I mean, that's scary.
Their offense still isn't there. They're still missing little, like, fundamental things.
And I've seen Patrick Mahomes miss some throws that you haven't seen him miss in a very long time. So, you know, I think they're contending for a Super Bowl because they've been there.
They know it. They got some elite weapons, all depending on COVID, you know, all this bull.
We'll see how that rolls. But then I think Kansas City.
I think Kansas City has the biggest dog in the NFL, by the way. I think Tyron Matthews is the biggest dog.
He's the definition of a dog. He's a damn good football player.
Honey Badger? Yep. Yeah, he's got a knack for the ball.
He's always in the right spots at the right time. He's one of the greats of this generation at the position for sure.
I think Tyron Matthews is a really good football player. All right, so Chiefs, they should get the one seed if they win out.
I mean, they will get the one seed if they win out, and it feels like they're rolling that way. I don't know if they're going to.
We'll see. Let's pump break.
Oh, you like the Steelers. Yeah, you like the Steelers this weekend.
You do. I know.
I heard you say it. It's Big Ben Swanson.
It's like Tomlin. Something about him is an underdog.
I like Tomlin. It's just something about him as an underdog.
It's Big Bang Farewell Tour. I know.
He's a Mac guy, Mac daddy. Patriots, I think the Patriots are contending.
Yep. They're a teeter just because their defense is so good, and I know how they coach, how they prepare.
And I hated last game, but it was due to happen to have doy-doy plays by a rookie. That's destined to happen.
And it's almost at a point where we still have time to learn from that. Right.
You know, so I believe that they'll get that fixed potentially. And if they want to play the game they want to play, how they want to play it, I think they'll be very, you know, they'll be able to contend.
And I like Indianapolis. I like Indianapolis.
That defense is, they got 31 takeaways. They're tied with the Cowboys and takeaways.
They've had a takeaway in every game this year, which is very rare to be done. You may have 31 takeaways, but to have one every game, they're just so opportunistic on defense.
They can stop the run. We saw it last week when they stopped Stevenson with the Patriots, and he's a damn good running back.
They didn't have Damian Harris. They have special teams.
They had two block punts by EJ Speedy. I mean, Bubba Ventrone from the Patriots played with them.
He's their special teams coordinator. They're getting a lot of production out of their special teams.
They're a tough football team. The only thing that they've got to keep in whack is Carson Wentz.
He can't play hero ball. And he's statistically, he's playing a pretty good year.
He's playing good football. I think it was 5 for 12.
When you run the ball for 170 yards you don't have to throw. It's true.
He did what to do, right? Right. He handed the ball off tremendously.
Hey, if you're running the ball like that, I think those teams are good. And then on the NFC, Packers, Bucs.
Have the Bucs called you yet because everyone's injured? We were waiting to get to this question. They have not.
Wait, that's the way that you asked it, Big Cat. Has anybody associated with the Bucs sent a little tickle to you? No.
That's a lie. No.
I don't believe you. I think last time you were in, we listed if this guy got hurt and this guy got hurt, and pretty much every one of those guys have gotten hurt yeah I haven't got no call did you get a text? no text either what was the last text you got from Tom? he was mad at me for making fun of him inside the NFL he was like stop telling stupid you know, stop telling stupid stuff.
Stop telling stories. But do you think he's, like, I think he'd probably get over that if it's Ring 8 is on the line, right? I mean, guy likes to win.
Let's just role play for a second, okay? I'll be Tom Brady. Who am I? You're you.
All right. No, I'll be him.
I'll be Jules. I'll be Jules.
Hey, Jules, what's up? Wait, who am I? You're you. No, I'll be him.
I'll be Jules. Hey Jules, what's up? Who am I? You're just a watcher.
You're Giselle. Hey bubs.
Hey, what's going on Jules? Hey bubs. Hey Jules, how's it going? Pretty good.
I'm feeling pretty fast. Yeah, I didn't ask if you were feeling fast or not.
I was actually, I was gone because you were saying all sorts of funny stuff on inside the NFL.

I'm mad at you.

Hey, Jules, do you want to come play in week 17 and then in the playoffs for us?

Can I be your guy?

You're a guy.

I'm a guy, but can I be your guy?

You're a guy.

But what about your guy?

We got some guys down here.

But Gronk's a guy, but I want to be your guy.

I got to go Antonio Brown's burning the eggs again.

I mean, I never knew. That's probably how it would go, right? Nah.
Maybe one less guys? Yeah, there wouldn't be guys. There'd be some babes.
Babes. Yeah, babes.
Hey, babe, can I be your babe? If he were to call you right now, would you say yes? No, probably not. Probably not.
Let's asleep he's been yeah what a time yeah oh dude he's on he's on four hours of rim right now it's 11 o'clock i had a theory last year that he was playing poorly at night because it was past his bedtime or he's sundowning and i actually think there's like i don't think it was quarter it. I don't think it's totally wrong because it really...
Think about it. Sunday night, they played really bad.
At 10 o'clock Eastern time, he's been asleep for three hours. Maybe four.
Yeah, body clock is all fucked up. Nah, yeah.
All right, so the Bucs are number two. Bucs are two.
Now are you going to put the Cowboys in there? Ooh, here's the three. Three is very important because you have Cowboys.
I would put the Cowboys in there. Cowboys, Rams, 49ers would be my three that you get to pick from.
I know it's not going to be the Rams because we were watching that game tonight, and every time the Seahawks got a rush for over four yards, Jules would just be like soft, soft football team. No, it was more like 11.
Yeah, the bigger ones. Like 11-yard gashes.
They're gashes. Second-level stuff.
You can't be getting gashed like that. Yeah.
Gashes are bad. I never said soft.
I said finesse. Finesse.
Yeah, you didn't say soft. Finger roll, not a dunk.
Yeah, that was finesse. Your basketball team playing football.
Yeah. Pass rushers to we got to defend the run because it's going to come down to that in this this time of the year yeah so cowboys yes or no i'm going with the niners oh okay i like the way the niners play we love the niners jimmy g's been there man and everyone wants to hate on them and and you know everyone doesn't want to buy them try to replace him.
The guy wins football games. You get it to Kittle.
If Kittle stays healthy, Debo Samuels stays healthy, any running back that can run is healthy for that offensive line. If you watch that defense, man.
Yeah, they're playing real well. They're flying right now.
You're. Like Jimmy G, for all the shit we give him, he was one throw away from winning a Super Bowl.
I mean, he brought a team to a Super Bowl. He was one throw.
I mean, he did throw it like seven times in that game against, I think, the Vikings. Or no, it was the NFC Championship game? I think so.
Yeah, but either way, that throw that he missed to, who was it? Emmanuel Sanders? Emmanuel Sanders. That was like a little bit overthrown.
If he catches that, they win the Super Bowl. It came down to more than just that.
I know, but that throw. It's never just one play.
It's never just one play, but it really was that play. It's never just one play.
It is that one play. It is like interviewing Belichick kind of thing.
Yeah, a little bit. But it's true.
I mean, there's probably a, like, 10 to 15 plays. Yeah.
No, you're right. You know, and it's situationally.
Like, all right, that third and fucking, or that third and three that you didn't get coming out out of halftime, you know, and then they go and score. You don't flip the field position.
You know, like, those are. Yeah.
Or the dumb ME by the left guard who didn't go out to the wing or something. Guy runs free and they didn't get the protection right.
That kills the drive. Then it's second and 13, second and 14.
You're trying to play catch-up on down a distance. Then you're off track.
Those are the plays that kill it. Those one plays, yes, they're a part of it, but it's not just one play.
You mentioned the offensive line, and Trent Williams has just been blocking his face off. He's a guy that every single year you can count on to have three or four blocks that make an end-of-the-season highlight reel for the entire's a large human just like lame and he's fast as shit too he's one of the guys that actually terrifies me when i see how quickly he moves at that size there should be because i saw jeff saturday say this today but he was saying that people should talk about trent williams as being an mvp candidate which respect to jeff saturday for getting his name his name across the bottom line with a splashy quote,

there should be an award that goes out to the most valuable offensive lineman,

like the MVD, the most valuable dude.

Maybe we can do that because I think he's a guy that is important enough to his team where he should get some level of ultimate recognition.

The game's won

in the trenches always always i love that part i love i love it because it's like as much as the analytics and and we actually are pro analytics and everything you know people can debate it it it's the my favorite part about football is it really does come down to like who is tougher is tougher and stronger in the trenches. Or smarter.
Like, we talk about fourth down conversions and going for two and all this shit, and it's like, yeah, if your guys in the trenches are bigger and stronger than the guys across the line. It's not even that.
It's which group plays the best together. Yeah, that's a good point.
A lot of games and stuff that the defensive line plays, the ETs, the TE games where they're stunting. And then you see, when you see a good offensive line, when they know how to pick up the protection and guys are sliding when a guy's looping and he's passing guys off.
That's why I like the Eagles. Like, that's like, it's insane.
I remember watching sometimes in practice, like, how the fuck did they get that shit? How did they get that block picked up? It's art. That's art.
There's also the third part of the game, the special teams. Special teams.
So special teams. That's my only hope for the Packers to fail.
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of muffed punts recently. The art of returning a punt, I feel like it's a lot more difficult than a lot of people think.
And I was talking to you about it a little bit earlier, scratch the surface, about what it's like as a punt returner, because it seems like a terrifying job. But how you determine whether or not you're going to call for a fair catch or you're going to try to return it, whether it's based off the hang time or what the keys are for that.
What year of my career am I in? In the year where Belichick went up to Wes Welker and said, hey, you know who Wally Panthers is? Oh, then I'm not fair catching at all. I'm not getting any offensive reps.
I'm trying to make a play. Every time.
Every time. I'm getting concussion left and right just to try to get a little yak action.
Go ahead. uh go ahead so the punts yeah yeah like what do you look at how do you decide because you can't be looking at the people that are coming down to now you can't be looking at the gunners right you feel and then and that's also why like hang time is huge and like the depth of the punt and the direction of the punt and how the point like so when when you a lot of punts, right when the punter kicks it, you can feel and you can see the trajectory of where it's going and you can kind of gauge by if the, if the, the nose of the punt turns over or if it stays up.
So once it gets to that area, if it turns over at the right foot of punter, it's going to drop to your left. So you played on your right titty.
So you come down, you play on your right tee. So like once gets to that area, if it turns over at the right-footed punter, it's going to drop to your left, so you play it on your right titty.
So you come down, you play it on your right tee. So once you see that it's turning over, then you run to the spot because you kind of know the depth perception because you're practicing it all the time.
And then once you get to the spot where you have a two-way go, that's why you want to square up on it so you get a two-way go. You don't want to just catch it to the side or catch it over your shoulder, which I did a bunch.
But the coach would always yell at you because he'd always say, you want to have a two-way go when you catch the ball. So if it turned over with the right-footed punter, it's going to leak to the left and go long.
If it doesn't turn over with the right-footed punter and it's the the tip stays up it's gonna die and go right so you play it on your your left your left boob and so like so you're squared and so once you kind of see where that's gonna be you run to the spot and you kind of you catch a punt with your feet because when you're when you have good feet that's when you punt. That's what Bill would always say.
You catch with your feet and not with your hands. So you get the right feet, and once you know where that spot is, you take a look at the pursuit.
You take a peek, and depending on how far it was, what hang time it was, if you're protected on certain sides, you make that decision. You know if you have a blocked punt,

that there's going to be a wave of guys coming

because they're not blocking.

They're going after the punter.

So you'd always know if it wasn't a high punt

and it was kind of short,

that you're going to have guys in your face.

But you knew if he kicked it far and it wasn't high,

that you're going to have a huge cushion. You might have a 15, 20-yard cushion until the first wave.
So that was always how you kind of determined it. You'd always see the tip of the ball and all those rules are reversed with the left-footed punter, which used to be an unorthodox way of seeing it because there would only be one or two left-footed punters.
Now there's like six or eight. So that's what it is.
It's all about judging the punt. Once you get really good, then you can get comfortable where you can peek.
You bring your eyes down, look at the field, peek, feel the pressure, and then you can go. And once you take that peek, you're taking a picture of the whole field with your're like you you see that guy you see the long long snappers probably like right here the pps over here and you also know where you where you're most of your protections coming from based on the call what punt return you have yeah so when do you peak i peak once i get to the spot with so like with my feet yeah so once i once it, I'm running, and you get a tendency of what kind of punter the guys are.
You know, if they turn it over, you get, like, all their numbers. You'll see they'll have a spot chart, like, of every single punt on, like, the piece of paper, and they'll show, like, all right, this is mishits right here on this game, that game.
Then you have all this, and then you kind of study that so you can kind of see. So you go back to the spot, and once I get there, you take just a little gander, a little peek.
You can't peek too long. No.
Because then you get caught peeking. And then you lose the ball.
Have you ever peeked? I'm off to punt. Have you ever peeked and then looked back up, and you're like, fuck, where's the ball? No, no.
But sometimes you'll peak and then you'll go down too fast and then you'll muff the ball because you'll try to run before you have the ball. That's why we saw the drop ball by Goddard today.
He didn't peak, but he tried to run before he had the ball. And a lot of guys do that because he probably knew someone was coming in from that high angle where where you want to get that ball and get squared up so you could see the field once you see the field then you could make your moves punt punt returning sounds a lot like uh in cars three when lightning mcqueen and cruise have to try to go in and out of the tractors i don't know if you're familiar with the film i've watched about a hundred times um that's what it sounds like.
No, I have a daughter. We watch unicorns and Pocahontas.
Cars. I'm trying to get her in.
We went on the Cars ride at Disneyland. She liked it, but we haven't watched that one.
Yeah, you got to get into Cars. All right, Jules, this has been awesome, as always.
Can we set you up right now? I tell the Philly fans not to hate. You guys got the Philly fans.
No, you and PFT are going to. I'm on the right side of history.
I think Philly's building something real. I do.
Well, you think they're building something real enough to the point where you think they should get Matt Ryan this offseason. Well, no.
I said that would be a spot if they don't believe in Jalen Hurts. But Jalen Hurts keeps playing games.
He keeps proving me wrong. Actually, I agree with Big Cat.
I think that I'm not as down on the Eagles as Julian is. Yeah, Julian hates the Eagles.
He thinks they should actually. Because the whole Nick Foles thing.
They should not be a franchise anymore. That's what you said off camera.
You're like, why do we even have a team in this? I think you said bomb the entire. No, no, no.
No, 2009, Pop Warner banquet. First touchdown ever was in Lincoln Financial Field.

Oh, they're really going to love you now.

My pump return in the preseason.

Oh, that doesn't count.

It counted.

I paid the team for that thing, bro.

All right, we're going to pencil you in.

I'm thinking, so there's a wild card game on Monday this year.

Maybe the Tuesday after. I know you do inside the NFL on Tuesday.
Are we doing the slime game? Yeah, we're going to have the Knicks game. The Tuesday after, let's have you back.
You do inside the NFL. You got everything fresh in your mind.
So it's like a month. People love having you on.
Not Philly. Oh, yeah.
You're going to have to deal with Philly tomorrow. You're going to have to deal with Philly tomorrow.
I ran the steps. I ran the steps.
Yeah, Delessandros, if you want to be real Philly. Yeah, it sounds like you're just checking the tourist boxes.
Yeah, Pat's, Joe's, Joe's. They're getting more mad at you for saying the Rocky steps.
What's the little college bar area out there? I was like 22 years old when I went to this thing. Yeah, you're pointing no return.
You have any water ice? Well, I'll ask you this. Sheets or Wawa? I like Sheets.
Okay, yeah. They fucking hate your guts right now.
I like Sheets. You failed this test.
Dude, the Pittsburgh people love Sheets because all my college dudes, Pittsburgh, they would talk about this. They put one in our college town.
We'd go there every day. You get the made-to-order stuff.
MTO, yeah. I'm a Wawa guy.
Sheets is trash. I never had Wawa.
It's very good. What is it? It's actually like it's one of those things that you do it as a joke, and then you leave, and you're like, that was kind of good.
What was it? What is it? It's the same as Sheets. Really good sandwiches.
Sandwiches. Best drunk food in the world.
Sandwiches. You just go, sandwiches, bag of chips, maybe a little candy.
Get a tasty cake. Maybe a Wawa iced tea.
They would always have crazy flavored pretzels. Yeah.
Like limited edition, you know, the little pretzel break up things. The bites.
Yeah, the bites. Like anteas.
They'd have all the flavors, like the the honey dijon ones the like the buffalo ones like everywhere else there i didn't even see those flavors i just don't discriminate i love food that's served in gas stations i love gas stations go go taquitos at 7-eleven you won't find a better purchase for the price in america than a 99 cent taquito i'll go to a gas station and i won't even want anything but i but I'll buy everything. You've got to stop that if you're going to play for the Bucs.
I'm just saying. I'm a one-team guy, dude.
Oh, it's that. What if the Patriots need you? I mean, they got...
All right, Jules. Thank you.
All right, so whatever date that is. I think it's Tuesday, January.
Put it in your calendar right now. Tuesday, January 18th.
Boom. He's here.
We'll have you on the show again. Love it.
That'll be great for the 19th show. I was supposed to go to Tottenham.
On then? Yeah. Huh? Are you not going to go? No, they canceled.
I was going to do some content with all their soccer guys, like all the team. Yeah.
Like so on and freaking Harry. Harry Kane? Yeah.
Spits when he talks. He's just a weird link.
He loves football. He wants to be a kicker.
He would not succeed. Nice try.
If it's a kick from five yards,

they're saying that he wants to become

a kicker when he's done playing

professional soccer. He would be like

the anti-Justin Tucker.

He'd only have to kick 20 yarders.

He taps in everything, dude.

He can only score from merchant.

You can't hate a guy that just scores.

You can't use your head.

Maybe if you could head a ball over the

crossbar, he'd be fine.

I think that's what I'm saying. You can't just score from me.
Tapping merchant. I mean, you can't hate a guy that just scores.
You can't use your head. Maybe if you could head a ball over the crossbar, he'd be fine.
I mean, C-O-Y-S. Come on, you Spurs.
Nah, gross. Who's your team? Well, I own Swansea, and then I've become an Arsenal fan because my best friend Troops is an Arsenal fan.
The Gunners?

Yeah, the Gunners.

The Gooners.

Arsenal's my London team.

49ers?

Yeah, the Gooners.

They call them the 49ers, too.

I went to the Arsenal game.

I just like all London teams, actually.

I just root for the city.

Yeah, like Manchester City.

I'm a big West Ham guy.

Manchester City.

Leicester City?

Liverpool.

Leicester City.

It's Leicester, isn't it?

No, it's Leicester.

Is it Leicester?

Uh-huh.

Yeah. Norwich.
Nottingham. I love all the London teams.
Nottingham? Nottingham, yeah. We're done.
All right, done. Jules, we love you.
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Ha, ha, ha. Pervert.
It's not going to be wrong, though. I have a lock on this game.
Oh. Garrett Gilbert, he's starting at quarterback because Taylor Heineke and Kyle Allen both out with a cocoa.
So we got Garrett Gilbert. People forget that Garrett Gilbert was a great quarterback in high school.

He played at Texas.

He was Mr. Football.

Came in for Colt McCoy.

Came in for Colt McCoy.

Yeah, he would have won that national championship if Colt McCoy didn't get injured in the first half of that game.

So he's a great player.

As our good friend Sam Schwartzstein pointed out to me,

he might be the all-time, like, what- texas recruit mac brown recruited garrett gilbert to play quarterback instead of andrew luck and i think that was also around the time where mac brown was like i'll take robert griffin and johnny manziel if they play safety yes and not quarterback genius so if if andrew luck had gone to texas and garrett gilbert had gone to stanford stanford who knows to Stanford, who knows where, like, Jim Harbaugh probably doesn't get the Niners job. Yep.
Colin Kaepernick probably doesn't start at quarterback. Donald Trump doesn't get elected.
Everything changes. Everything changes.
No COVID. No COVID, Hank.
No COVID. And then Garrett Gilbert doesn't start a quarterback tonight.

Yeah, Garrett Gilbert doesn't start.

No Billy.

Billy goes and works as a schmuck in a finance job.

Yeah.

Wow.

So it's all due to Garrett Gilbert.

What do you say, Bubba?

I heard this recently on Redline.

Did you know Colt McCoy's real name is Daniel?

I did not.

If people knew that, he never would have been to Texas quarterback.

Yeah, Colt McCoy.

Although Daniel McCoy kind of sounds like a gunslinger in its own right. Danny McCoy? Yeah, like an old Western guy.
Like old Daniel McCoy coming through here. I feel like Danny McCoy.
Yeah, Danny McCoy. Quick draw, Danny McCoy.
Yeah, he probably still would have worked out. The last name McCoy, you can fill in the blanks on that.
You're going to play football at Texas. But Colt is great.
But Colt's great. So Garrett Gilbert, people forget he was on part of my take back when we went to baker mayfield's rv in cleveland yep he stopped by for a little bit he's played for the patriots twice so belichick has signed him twice he won a super bowl something he won a super bowl in new england i think he was on a practice squad but that still counts so all that being said i feel like i feel like it's shock the world time.
Oh, so you're predicting a win. I'm thinking 13-9.
Okay. 13-9 tonight, the Washington football team over the Philadelphia Eagles.
And I'm definitely just saying this to make myself feel like we have a chance because if we lose, it's pretty much all fair. Yachts are over.
You got got to do it you got to get yourself it it's it's basically the the toradol shot for fans is just convincing yourself an hour before kickoff that you have a chance yeah because otherwise what's the point we definitely don't have a chance but we but what if right what if i'm in what if it's just taken this long for garrett gilbert to show exactly why he was the number one recruit out of high school? Somewhere inside there is a star. Yes.
Let's just see it tonight. Oh, here's a fun fact about Garrett Gilbert.
His dad is the only player in NFL history to lose five consecutive Super Bowls. Oh, wow.
So he was on the Bills? He was on the Bills for four years, and then he went to the Chargers. Oh, no.
And that was a close one against the 49ers. That's brutal.
So, I mean, so he can get to a Super Bowl. He's got that in his DNA.
That's brutal. It's going to be bad.
It's going to be bad. Our entire team is...
No, no, no. You can't switch.
Don't switch. Don't switch.
It's going to be bad for the Eagles. Yes, there it is.
It's a bad night to be a bird. Bad matchup for the Eagles.
Not a lot of tape on Garrett Gilbert. There's virtually no tape on Garrett Gilbert.
Why not? Why not? Why not? I'm wearing the RG3 hat. Why not? Why not? Which it lost the last game, but that doesn't matter.
Yeah, the refs boned us on that one. Okay, why not? All right, so let's get to Hot Seat Cool Throne.
Just a reminder for everyone, no show Friday, so we're taking a show off. Oh, my God, how could we? But we are going to take one show off on Christmas day Christmas day or Christmas Eve day uh we're so no show Friday so we're going to do our picks and preview at the end of this show so if you want to listen on Friday we'll do it then maybe we'll throw in a fire fest just to give people something feel like it's a Friday so pause the show if you have to work Friday morning after Guys on Chicks.
The following week, regular show Monday, recap. We would never miss an NFL Sunday.
But then we're going to be in all forms of transit. So the next part of my take will come out probably mid to late afternoon on Thursday, live from the Arizona Bowl.
All three of us will be together.

Actually, Jake and Billy will be there too.

All of us will be there.

So Thursday, live from the Arizona Bowl,

will be our next show after Monday's show next week.

Fucking A, Kent State just hit the fucking doink,

and I needed that.

God damn it.

Okay.

Hot seat, cool thrown.

Hank, I heard that chuckle. I know.
I was chuckling after you, but there's still 13 minutes left. He's just laughing because you're so funny, Big Cat.
God damn it. If that.
Wyoming does have the coolest jackets. They've got great jackets, like the old-timey script ones, like Josh Allen used to wear.
Yeah. Mac kickers, man.
You know how everyone tweets college kickers? It's a totally different Mac kickers. When they make it, you tweet college kickers.
Mac kickers, I think, lead all forms of football, including high school, at missing the net entirely. Yeah, and they're also just always the skinniest kids in the world.
But they're just kids, so I'm not going to get mad because there's 13 minutes left. Go ahead, Hank.
My hot seat is the haters, of which there are many that think Belichick is a media-hating robot. But on Monday, after the game on Saturday, he had a media availability and he started off by apologizing to all the press for being too short with them after the game.
He's a his angle? Is he getting soft? No, I think he's got an angle. I think he came out, he's like, he's got some story that's about to break that's bad for him.
And so he's buttering us all up. And guess what? It's good.
It's working. Everyone's like, I really love Bill Belichick.
This is great. Also, Mac Jones with an uncharacteristic response.
Are you going to say the response? When he was like, we had a bad week at practice, and everyone practiced badly. Yeah.
A lot of weird stuff from the Patriots. I don't think that's – how is that weird? I thought that was actually interesting.
No, but usually they're just all stone-faced. Like, why are they changing it up? Even Coach Belichick's changing it up.
No, I think that's, again, that's my whole point, is the hot seat is the haters. I think there's this narrative that Belichick, you know, doesn't like the media and always gives short answers.
He said the reason why Mac Jones is being honest. So, again, hot seat haters.
Patriots are, you know, very media-friendly, happy people, just like me. Positive.
It's a positive organization. We also I don't think we ever talked about the story, the Matthew Judon Carson Wentz story, which is very funny because Carson Wentz did a press conference afterwards and they asked him what was said between them when they had a little like kerfuffle there on Saturday night.
And he's like, when you question a man's ability to have children like that's crossing the line. That's just a funny thing.
In the moment, I get what Carson Wentz is mad about, but then to two hours later do a press conference and be like, yeah, that guy said I couldn't come. Is that what it was, or was it he hit me in my balls? Because I just read the headline.
I just assumed that Carson Wentz got hit in the nuts. I don't know if he got hit in the nuts.
No, hold on. I'm going to find it.
But it's just such a funny thing to say when you've had a moment to sit down and process it. Because it's like, doesn't Carson Wentz have kids? Yeah, I think so.
He strikes me as a guy that probably got married when he was 19 years old. Carson Wentz accuses Matthew Judon of questioning his ability to reproduce.
Okay, so that's the same headline I read, but I thought that it meant that he hit him in the nuts. I don't think so.
Because it seems like a very Carson Wentz way to be like, I got hit in the balls. He took away my ability to raise children.
He said, don't need to get into specifics, obviously, but when a man's ability to reproduce is being in question, and there's some other extracurriculars, guys' hands need to be all at their side. So maybe he did and then also said? No, I think...
Maybe he grabbed it and was like, you can't use this. I think, yeah, he's like, well, so Carson Wentz is always going to be comparing himself to Nick Foles in every way.
And so he's probably very sensitive about the fact that he's not dealing with the same... He's not playing with the same equipment that Nick Foles is playing with.
That's also the lam that's also the lamest way to say like ow you hit me in my nuts to be like you just question my ability to have reproduce actually if you look at it isn't carson wentz like his touchdown there we go isn't isn't like his whole career defined by players that have preceded him having big genitals he's got nick foals and then philip rivers in ind Indianapolis with probably the biggest balls in the world. Those things are just popping.
So I understand why he would be sensitive about that. That's true.
It's a funny bonk, though. It's just a fact.
It is a fact. You've said nothing but facts.
That is the facts. All right.
So, Hank, go back to what we got sidetracked there. Talking, that was it.
That was my hot seat. My cool throne is parlay enthusiasts.
Myself, I'm a parlay enthusiast. We talk about it on this show.
For the Arizona Bowl in the Barstow Sportsbook, they're offering this one. It's got me all jazzed up.
But it's for new accounts. And basically, you can bet $0.10 and win $1,000 with new sportsbook signups.
You'd use the Arizona Bowl, AZ Bowl promo code as signup. And then between the Arizona Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl, if you make a parlay that wins, you get $1,000 in sportsbook cash.
I have a question. Yes, PFT.
What if I wanted to like bet it just a dollar on a parlay for those for those games would i still get that credit if you went three for three you would get a thousand dollars in your account wow so it's very exciting it's you know fun to think about love parlays it's like a free you know it's if you it's obviously you know it's not given to you it's not a free thousand dollars you got to earn it by winning a parlay, which is fun to do. Earn not given.
Yeah, earn not given. Love it.
It's a sports book. Bet responsibly.
Bet responsibly. PFT, your hot seat, cool throat.
My hot seat is Major Biden. Major Biden, the president's dog, the one that used to bite everybody, that pissed all over the place.
Yep. He was my favorite.
He's on the hot seat because they're rehoming him. He's finding a new home.
Oh, this is like he's going to live upstate on a big farm somewhere. Lena Dunham.
Yeah. She just gave her dog back.
Yeah. Well, I think that happened like four times.
Yeah. And everyone's like, this isn't right.
She's like, I didn't know the internet would be mad about this. Yeah.
So just like like major biden bites five journalists and takes a shit in the oval office and all of a sudden he's not fit for duty so he's getting shipped off i don't know to some i i'm kind of a major biden truther i think they're killing him which i'm not i'm not happy about obviously as a dog lover but they brought in a replacement dog a scab dog oh no commander biden is the new puppy that they're bringing in also german shepherd you know who else raised german shepherds yes yeah i think we all do we all do uh but they're bringing in a new dog named commander biden and this dog's just not going to live up to the old dog no he's like this dog's gonna be too well behaved i just want to say for the record if the biden's are actually giving away if they're looking for a new home for major biden i want major biden yeah i i think that's the only dog that i could take right i would love to have that that fucking little rascal run around my i would train him to break news yes he would be like he would be political news only yeah he would be the the hunter s thompson to leroy's walter cronkite that would be great so joe if i know you're a long time stoolie, Kamala too. Send Major Biden to me.
Don't put Major Biden down. But it's also kind of weird that they keep giving their dogs ranks in the military, isn't it? That is weird.
Also, I don't think they're going to kill the dog, but you know someone's going to start the conspiracy theory, which I think you kind of already just did, that they're going to kill the dog. All the pictures that I see.
Like, Billy's nodding right now, and he's like, oh, yeah, this is going to take down Biden because I'm going to find where they killed this dog. I'm going to be analyzing all the pictures of Major Biden at his new home and be like, that's a different dog.
We just- Like, just take Melania. Yeah, we just opened up how a terrible conspiracy theory and rotten news starts.
It just started right here. And Billy's going to run with it.
And it will probably end up with Joe Biden in jail. Yeah.
Listen, if he puts Major Biden down instead of giving him to me, he should be in jail. Joe Biden and Ghislaine Maxwell and cellmates.
Yeah. In like a naval prison somewhere.
Okay. Your cool throne? My cool throne is JNCOs.
Yeah. And JNCOs are also back, but they're also on the cool throne.
JNCOs are back. There was a trend piece in the Wall Street Journal.
You know something's real cool when it's written about in the Wall Street Journal. And so apparently the youths are buying JNCOs.
Prices online have gone up a lot. Purchases have gone up a lot.
I've kind of done the thing that we talk about when it comes to daylight savings time when you don't change your clock on your microwave your stove in your car for like six months until it becomes cool again that's kind of what i've done with jinkos over there i've kind of waited out the trend so i'm glad that they're back there gonna be a lot of posers that start to wear them yeah um and you know me i wear mugsies i'm wearing my mugsies right now as a matter of fact but when it comes to playoffs you got to rock the clutch jeans yes so um i'm just sure they're back i think so okay all right i'm pretty sure they are double check the wall street journal wrote about them so as far as i'm concerned they're they're 100 percent back yep but um yeah it's very cool to see that that the kids of today are are no longer wearing the skinny jeans and they're opting for a roomier, comfortable fit. That's beautiful.
And also, just everybody looks stupid wearing JNCOs, and I love that. Yes.
Very stupid. It levels the playing field.
We need a Muggsy special edition, like giant-sized. Of JNCOs? Yeah.
Yeah. Please, Muggsy.
That would be fun. They wouldn't be JNCOs.
Right. Wink.
Nudge, nudge. Yeah.
Good point. I think I've got some extra, some wide-leg Muggsies in the back, Hank.
I'll bring those out. Love it.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, they already sent us those.
Yeah, so, yeah, that's my cool throw, JNCOs. All right, my hot seat is the Arizona Cardinals Twitter account.
I'm in a war. I'm in a fucking war right now.
The Cardinals account, for anyone who's not spending their life online, first of all all good for you because your life is better than ours uh but second the arizona cardinals just did not tweet the final score after they lost the lions they tweeted we talked about it on monday's show they still have not tweeted the final score i'm demanding they tweet the final score i don't think they ever will so now i'm kind of in a tough spot where i have to figure out what my next move is. It's going to be a dangerous move.
This is an all-out battle. It is.
Because it's really I'm battling for the city of Detroit. Lions fans don't get to celebrate a lot of wins.
They should get to celebrate this. And I'm battling for just what is right in this world.
You don't get to tweet your wins and not tweet your losses. People have been sending me all the hilarious losses.
Like Arizona lost to Arizona State 70-7. They posted that.
Wisconsin, when they lost 59-0 to Ohio State, we posted that. Like all these losses that get posted and they can't post one loss to the fucking Lions? Did UVA post when they lost to UMc yes they did that was sent to me yes good point yeah i mean that is the one that i would understand maybe if uva didn't post that but the fact that they did they really you you have no excuse if you're the cardinals and that some might say that they're cursed because they didn't they didn't post after the loss to the rams.
Which still, we didn't really care because Rams fans, who are they? Nowhere. Right.
It's like whatever celebrity happens to be on camera at a sideline. Right.
But this matters. This does matter because the city of Detroit deserves to own an account online.
Right. And not only that, it's just simple.
Like, they're on a fundamental level just failing at social media because any any smart person right now would see the groundswell they're getting ratioed on every tweet do not stop ratioing them it's awesome because pft and i were talking like if anyone is like oh you're bullying them it's a it's a team it's a team account you're bullying a football team it's a it's not a person it's a team yeah you're bullying yeah the person running it is inconsequential yes we don't know who they are you're bullying a team yes right it's almost like we should become you remember when we became charity terrorists with jj y yes i'm gonna donate i'm gonna donate to the church of satan for every day that they do not post the score oh i like that I'm going to find Commander Biden and kill it. Don't you dare.
Yeah. I know Commander Biden.
Wait, which one? No, I'm not in favor of killing any dog. I'm going to find Hunter Biden and kill him.
Okay. That's the other dog? Actually, if you found Hunter Biden, I guarantee you'd just end up partying with him.
Well, no, I'd just grab his laptop and he probably is logged into the Arizona Cardinals Twitter account by accident. Yeah.
It's like, oh, OK, cool. I'll just post it right now.
But anyway, it's just a failure on such a fundamental level, because if they posted it right now, it would be so funny. I would flip just like like all of our exchanges with everyone.
If you just have a little bit of self-deprecation, if you just say, oh, I fuck up, I'm a human, too. You're you.
Like, the bar to do something cool online is so low. You just have to have a tiny bit of self-awareness.
And they can't do that. I will never give up this fight.
I have them on alerts. Whatever happened to respecting the mental health of social media account managers, Big Cat? Well, what about respecting the mental health of everyone in Detroitroit yeah that's a good point because they are this as far as i'm concerned the lions have one win yeah it hasn't been official so this this should have been the week that the cardinals account was like we're all taking a break over here we're all logging offline because we need to we need to reset we're sick of people replying to our tweets and saying mean things about the football team that we're that we're representing and i do love when people are like dude like get over it like who cares like well guess what my job is to kind of just do this like this is i basically clear my schedule it's like oh what's my what's my job this week hop into twitter spaces and harass the arizona cardinals twitter account like i that's the beauty of our job you can it's not like I had heart surgery on Wednesday and I was like, oh, I got to tweet some mean shit to a football team.
No, this is my job. Yeah.
I mean, what they should do, they should have a picture taken and then somebody in the background should be holding a sign that says, what was the final score again? It was 30 to 12. You wouldn't know because I only follow the Cardinals account, so I actually haven seen it yet.
That's why I forgot. I guessed.
That's how we actually get all of our information about the final scores on this show is by just we individually click on all 32 team accounts to see what they post. They should just have somebody in the background holding a piece of paper that says the final score on it and then maybe you have to zoom in real far to see what the person's holding and that's it i told i dm the cardinals and i said i said do what people do to us when we get credited on part of my take and they make it the smallest font ever and they like almost like do they do the color gradient gradient where you can't even see it i was like do that on a picture of your stadium do that on a picture of santa with kyler murray i think anybody i will count that i will count that as officially posting the final score and let's just say this God forbid they lose to the Colts on Saturday they don't post that hell at that point it is a curse the Cardinals if they just keep losing I am just like gaining an army because now the entire city of Indianapolis is with me.
And it's just eventually like you're like to have America behind me against the Cardinals. Dan Narius Targaryen just rolling from town to town, scooping up troops.
Yeah. Let's go city of city of Indianapolis.
You've been wronged by the Cardinals. Yeah.
And it does put me in a bad spot. We'll get to the weekend.
Anybody that's complaining about that. It's that, I want to be perfectly clear.
Anyone that thinks that what Big Cat's doing, like it's not a fight in the name of justice, is a loser. Yes.
And you're supporting loser mentality. Yes, and it's a fight against a team Twitter account.
You've got to own it if you lose. This is big boy football.
Yes, and again, all they have to do is tweet it. They could tweet tweet it at four in the morning and it doesn't even have to be a graphic you could just say final detroit 30 arizona 12 and it would it would be like the funniest moment and everyone be like good good on you guys we can move on with our lives if i were them you know what i would do i wouldn't even tweet it out as a normal tweet i would just reply to one of your tweets yeah the final score.
That would be good. That counts too, right? It's so easy.
It's so easy, but they won't do it. All right, my cool throne is America.
Hell yeah. Yeah, just because I was thinking about it.
Bowl season, man, like when you think about what we culturally have given the world, I think bowl season would be number one where we have found a way to have just endless football for two weeks and a bunch of games that don't mean anything, but we've convinced ourselves they do mean something. Like, we make fun of soccer friendlies, and if you explain this to a European, they'd be like, is this just a friend? No, no, no, no.
It's the Idaho Potato Bowl. Like, this is for all the potatoes.
It's more football. Yeah, right of that.
Don't you understand? I just, there's something to me and all the broadcasts are quirky and everything's just weird. And the matchups, I just love it so much.
Soak it in. There's nothing like bowl season.
I love it when they show the gift bags that they give to the players too. At the Idaho potato bowl, they all have like a giant frozen thing of crinkle fries that they get.
It's all the best. It is all the best.
Just weird matchups between teams that probably have never seen the other team play before

ever.

Yep.

Yep.

Weird.

Yeah.

Everything is great.

Like everything about this bowl game that's on right now is awesome.

The fact that it's being played in Idaho on the blue field and it's Kent State against

Wyoming.

That's everything I want.

Everything you want.

Everything you want.

All right. Billy.
And it's Kent State against Wyoming. That's everything I want.
Everything you want. Everything you want.

All right.

Billy.

Well, my hot seat, and we were talking about dead dogs earlier.

My hot seat's Michael Vick.

Michael Vick was trending today because the last of his dogs passed.

So I didn't start bringing it back up. So Michael vick's on the hot seat he served his time what was his dog's name uh this one was called it actually was a really cool story you should go read it like they usually whenever a dog fighting ring gets broken up all the dogs get euthanized right away and all these dogs got adopted and it's like i don't know it was it was a very cool story a heartwarming story so wait what was the name of the dog billy frodo frodo that's a good dog that's cool i love i love pit bulls that have like the softest names yeah like a tiny yeah tiny name right my uh my favorite dog of all time that i ever my used dog that i used to sell i sold a used dog named biscuits one time and he was a giant probably 120 pound pitbull with scars on his face and he was like a bait dog with his ears cropped real close but he's the softest dog ever biscuits i love you biscuits if you're out there uh billy your cool throne my cool throne is nick saban so a new article dropped on sports illustrated about how Nick Saban uses this guy called Pete Jenkins.
And he calls him his wolf, like a Pulp Fiction. And basically the way he beat Georgia.
And one of the biggest ways was that this guy, Pete Jenkins, who's like a total savant of football. He's this retired guy who Nick Saban calls all the time, told him basically to tell his D lineman to put their hands up because george has a short quarterback and they bad down for like very important passes in that game it was probably one of the reasons why they're ernie adams pete jenkins no i know i'm saying this is it's his version of ernie adams yeah exactly right there's also a pretty good chance that he doesn't exist and that Saban's

just putting it out there as a mystery.

Now, guess what? There's one more

puzzle that you have to solve if you want to beat Nick Saban.

There's also a pretty good chance it's Ernie Adams.

It could also be

Ernie Adams.

Belichick and Saban have just been sharing

Ernie Adams. Ernie Adams goes to

the safe that's in his closet and he opens up.

He's got passports in there under all these different names. He puts a hat on that's a houndstooth hat, and he's like, I'm Pete Jenkins now.
Okay, good one, Billy. Pete Jenkins is a very, very good – what's the word that you use? Alias? Alias, yeah.
Pete Jenkins is a great alias. By the way, you can say COVID brain at any time if you – Oh, COVID brain.
I'm also shorter than I was. I measured myself today.
I'm down to 5'8 5'8". I got COVID bones and COVID brain.
I'm a long hauler. I'm going to be 5'8 for the rest of my life thanks to this fucking disease.
Oh, man. All right.
Jake, your hot seat, cool to run. My hot seat is umpires, but not from the Major League Baseball League, from the Mexican League.
One umpire got ejected from a game. He got ejected.
He didn't eject someone because he was drunk. We threw him out.
He was flipping off the, uh, the fans, uh, umpire just says he was, he had to be escorted off the field. It was, it was the fellow umps like conferred and like talk to him and they were, he was like, he was like standing in the baseline.
Like as if that's where he was supposed to be standing for the pitch. He was shit based.
I love it. It would have been great if he had thrown himself out.
Like when you know that you're too drunk and you put yourself to bed at the end of the night. Yeah.
So shout out to that guy. His name was Humberto Lobito Sainz.
Legend. Okay.
I like that. And my cool throne are college quarterbacks on part of my take.
Keaton Slovis just transferred to Pittsburgh. We just had Kenny Pickett on.
He was a Heisman finalist. Hopefully Slovis can have a similar route.
There you go, QBU. Yes.
Yes, I like this. I feel like we should just try to figure out who's going to go to Pitt.
And we should just – Pitt's a fun school to just have in your back pocket. Because I don't know, it's like they don't get a lot of hype,

but they're Steelers fans, so we kind of love them.

The jerseys look cool on quarterbacks.

The jerseys look cool.

They play in Heinz Field.

I don't know.

I like Pitt.

I like Pitt.

And also, they won my game of the year,

which I'm going to come up with another game of the year

before the year's out.

I have to.

You've had four now?

Two.

I'm one and one.

I thought you were HBCU game of the year.

No, that was totally separate.

I mean, it's HBCU.

That doesn't count.

It's HBCU game of the year.

That's a little bit racist.

No, it counts, but it doesn't count as a game of the year.

Yeah, no, it counts as three-fifths of a game, Big Cat.

Oh, damn.

It counts as a qualifying game of the year.

Also, that was before I got my booster shot.

Okay.

It doesn't count.

All right.

That's Hot Seat Cool seat cool thrown let's do

would you guys on chicks before we do that pft you had a quick word from one of our spots hey what's going on there pal we saw you at the hockey game on do i know you guys i'm ryan whitney i got a drink named after me not a big deal pink whitney that's what i thought see you fellas I invented the thing you pigeon.

Pink Whitney for legendary moments.

Okay, guys on chicks.

And then we're going to do our weekend preview, which save if you need something for Friday. Save if you need something for Friday.
We'll also throw in a Fire Fest, a bonus Fire Fest. Everyone think of them in the back of their head.
Oh, I got one. Why do guys keep their apartments so dirty and also why do guys last minute christmas

shop okay so the dirty apartment thing i actually i i oftentimes think about apartments i lived in with like roommates and just how gross they were but how normal it was and how funny it is to think back i in college i lived in an apartment with four of my best friends and we had not one but two outdoors garbage bins inside in the kitchen oh yeah and it we would take out the trash every two weeks they're so big it actually makes sense it's more sanitary to do it that way because if you have a small one then the bags just pile up in my college experience there's probably still a video on there online somewhere but i was i was living with pat hard factor pat and we used to just throw our trash out onto the cement patio and just burn it sometimes yeah we'd have controlled burns on like on an apartment deck not in a backyard it was we would just burn our trash collecting shit i had a stadium seating which was incredible like just like come home and just bring stuff home with you like it's just i don't i can't really what is does that no longer become acceptable i think it's probably somewhere around like 25 to 27 you start to it's a slow process It's not like one day you start to clean up but there's one moment there's a moment that happens somewhere in that like 25 to 27 year old age group where you're like you know be nice it's like my house not being a fucking pig sty every time i come home like maybe the dish is not being in in the sink all the time having control of my own remote. Like when you have that click where you're like, I'd like to live on my own.
Usually there's a girl involved. Yeah.
And so you move in with a girl and they're like, Hey, um, is it okay? Maybe I can, I can show you how to flush the toilet after you're done with it. And that's the first step.
And you're like, okay, Hey, let me show you how to take the sheets off and wash them more, more than once every six months. And you're, oh, wow, I actually enjoy sleeping on clean sheets.
You have to clean sheets? Yeah, clean sheets. This feels amazing.
Wow, these towels, they don't smell like they did 12 months ago? Yeah, the little things. The little things.
So, yeah, there's usually a girl involved that teaches you the art of not living in just a rancid, disease-infested environment. Well, a girl or it's it's one roommate that like you just can't stand anymore who just drives you to the point of like i have to i have to live like a somewhat clean life like not all the way clean but i can't come home and have like flies and stuff it's it's when the flies show up or the girl shows up yeah there was one moment for me me where I just put a pan in the sink and I waited for probably four or five days to clean it up.
And there were actual like maggots that were in the pan. And I was like, you know what? Sometimes you got to hit rock bottom and then, and you choose to change your ways.
I also think that it changes sometimes the less time that you spend in your apartment, the cleaner it stays. Yeah.
So when I was just home for four days in a row, I was walking through my apartment today and I was looking down next to the couch that I was on the entire time. And there were three bags that were from the same place that I had ordered food from one inside of the other inside of the other, the exact same bag.
And I was like, this, this really shows me that I need to be out of the apartment more often because i can make a mess somewhere else yeah but i want to come home to a clean spot i often think back about the time that i we ran out of toilet paper and we just didn't get any new toilet paper for like multiple days and i was i had to wipe my ass with uh coffee filters oh and like that and at the time in college is like that's fucking hilarious And now I think back i'm like what what i was a different human being so i actually i never like whenever uh 18 to 25 year old dude does something like online or in life where it's like somewhat like what is this person thinking i'm never judging them because i'm like they have half a brain because i also had half a brain. Yeah.
At my upstairs that I had in this one townhouse, we didn't have a coffee table. We just took one of the doors off the hinges and just balanced it on two chairs.
Yes. And that was, it was our beer pong table and our standup coffee table that we had.
We're ahead of the time. It was like a treadmill desk.
Yes. You just had to stand up and eat on the door.
Was there a puddle underneath that table? I don't know. Just a gigantic puddle that never dried up? There was carpet, so it was probably worse than a puddle.
I used to have a Dog the Bounty Hunter signed autographed picture above my bed. That's pretty cool, though.
Think about that. I'm like, what? I mean, that guy's still in here.
Don't worry. But to that level, I'd be like, dude, this is so sick.
That is pretty cool, though. All right.
Growing up. That was growing up.
Okay. Is it bad that I'm taking my new boyfriend on a trip to Costa Rica that I bought for my previous ex-boyfriend's birthday, but we couldn't go because of COVID? So after we broke up, I still had the tickets, and to use them i bought them so it's not a big deal right yeah that's perfect yeah that's actually that's the dream scenario for any guy to fall into that's perfect she sounds awesome actually yes happy holidays santa cats mrs comic tough for the for the ex though for sure yeah but.
Yeah, but... But fuck him.
That happens, yeah. Fuck him.
Happy holidays, Santa Cat's, Mrs. Cometor, Grinch, Hank, and the Elves.
My boyfriend of seven years says our New Year's resolution should be to get in shape, and he has said so for the last five New Year's. He also happens to be in really good shape because he was a former D1 athlete.
Is he just trying to tell me I'm fat? How do I politely tell him to fuck off yeah um i don't want see i'm in a dilemma right now because i don't want to call you fat no so no that's not what he's saying at all nope you're not fat you can just um you're not he should love you just the way you are yes you're not fat at all hey daddy cat wft comment and Hank Spanx. My boyfriend tore both his labrums' shoulders playing football in high school, and he didn't have surgery to fix them.
He is 25 now and uses the pain as an excuse for me to always be on top during sex. This way, he just gets to lay there while I'm doing all the work.
Literally, all I want for Christmas is to have good sex where I'm not on top, and he puts some work into it. I i don't know how to approach him about this but i know he listens to your podcast and would listen to what you have to say okay well he just listened to this dude stop making that excuse like it's bullshit um actually big cat so i have two torn labrums okay in both shoulders so i know where this guy's coming from and it's it's just the only position that's comfortable is just lying down and getting blowjobs.

Anything besides that, I literally, it's too much pain.

I'll pass out.

Dude, come on.

If this podcast can get one guy to maybe do the occasional doggy style instead of just

laying there like a dead fin, we've done our job. All right.
Here's the thing. If if you're having sex you don't always have to be supporting your entire body weight right on both hands maybe get a harness that comes down from the from a sex swing yeah sex swing that just holds you in place while you just rhythmically go up and down or yeah yeah you can be in the harness and he can be on bottom and he'll have to do work from the bottom.
No, this guy's completely full of shit.

Like, yeah, Billy.

Get the elective surgery to get your labrums done.

And then that's at least eight months of more.

I'm inactive.

I can't do anything.

Yeah.

The problem is, though, if you get both shoulders done at the same time, you can't function as a human being. You can't use your arms at all.
I think most doctors won't even do both at the same time unless it's an emergency. This is a hilarious predicament.
I kind of respect the guy. I hope he's listening to this and do just like, you know what? Also, here's the bonus for you, buddy.
This is basically a free Christmas present. You know what your Christmas present is? I'll get on top.
For once. One time.
One time. All right.
All right, last one. I've recently discovered that my boyfriend runs a burner account where he berates liberal politicians.
I caught him trolling Nancy Pelosi while we were at an art gallery the other day. We don't't talk much about our political views but he knows he would be offending my beliefs should i confront him i also heard him say that he would suck a fart from aoc's she did the stars butthole please help me thank you okay um legend i if i were you i'd probably just ignore it because it sounds like he just he needs an outlet so if he's going to be a normal person and have a good relationship with you but meanwhile on the side he's just like going ham on alan omar then i think that might be a net positive for your relationship at this point yes what a what a fucking great guys on chicks yeah which by the if he's such he's such like a MAGA guy, what's he doing? Going to an art gallery.
Yeah, true. Good point.
Sounds like a lib in disguise. It sounds like he's a self-hating lib.
Yes. I agree.
That's probably what the issue is. He wants to suck a fart from AOC.
That's positive. That's true.
Yeah. He clearly has a little crush.
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Okay. Yeah, you should actually get dressed up as AOC, do some role play, and see how he reacts to that.
You might actually turn him into a lib. Yeah.
All right, good guys on chicks. Way to go, everyone.
That was a good round. All right, should we do a weekend preview? You want to do your last ad? Yeah.
Yeah, before we get to a weekend preview, I want to talk to you about it. Hockey is on.
And no matter the city, no matter the team, no matter the game, whether it's face-off or penalty shots, regular season or playoffs, win or lose, No matter what happens, no matter where it happens new amsterdam vodka is there okay uh let's do someone's here who's here rico's here you want to get rico in here for weekend preview? Hey, Rico. Why are you upset? Zero.
No. Zero.
You can keep running some of this. Rico looks like, I think he's robbing Barstool because he's got three bottles of champagne in his hands that he took off everyone's desk.
Merry Christmas, Rico. Wow.
Wow. Can we clarify that? What does it say? What does it say? Where's the camera? We'll cut it.
Happy holidays, Rico.

Happy holidays. So you got yourself?

Yeah, I got myself.

Oh, okay.

Nice.

Wait, Rico, who are you giving those to?

My people.

I take care of my people.

The big three?

No.

I don't get one?

Get out of here.

Get out of here.

Never come in your hole again.

All right.

Weekend preview.

What do you think Rico's giving those to?

Hank's going to get mad at me. He's definitely giving it to the chicks, though.
All right. Weekend preview.
What's the records? It's getting really tight. It's getting really tight.
We have the same standings as last time. Hank and Billy currently on the trip.
PFT, by the way, at the time of this recording, still has one of his week 15 picks to go. He has the over 44 in Washington.
I do too. Wait, which one did you take? I have the over in the Rams.
Okay, so we don't know. You had Patriots-Colts.
Ah, fuck. Okay.
That was my mortal loss. Yes.
Okay, you're right. Sorry.
Yes. So PFT still has one more pick.
But right now, PFT is up three games on Hank.

And then there's one and a half games.

It's me.

Big Cat, you're one and a half behind me.

Then it's one and a half Liam.

And then it's just a half for Billy.

So it's very tight.

Anything is still up to grabs. Oh, I'm behind by a half?

Yes, because you got the Raiders win yesterday.

Wait, so he's behind a half on Liam.

How many am I up on Billy?

Big Cat, you are three up on Billy. Okay.
is gonna get tight it's getting also you're also three behind hank so you're mathematically in the best spot but there's still so many games i feel like i'm totally i control my own destiny pft is in the best spot i'm probably in the second best spot because pft just doesn't like unless someone else gets crazy hot i just don't lose i'm just the hottest gambler in America that doesn't gamble. Yeah, PFT has three games of separation.
Big Cat has three games of separation. Everyone else is, like, a half a game.
Well, that would be nice. Oh, and for the record, I'm not going to lie, guys.
Like, I'm not trying to – it's a holiday season, but PFT and I kind of carry the show. I'm not – wait, in what context? No, I'm just kidding.
Oh, I thought.

I'm confused.

I'm saying we shouldn't have to drive.

We carry the show.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Also, I thought you were bringing it up in the fact that if you and I were in a car together and we get into a car accident, that's bad.

Oh, no, I was saying we shouldn't have to drive because we carry the show.

We should get to rest.

Yeah, well, because I joke.

You guys are getting old, though.

We are getting old.

Billy would definitely try to kill us.

Billy would be kept in an undisclosed location.

We should never actually be in the same room ever.

Billy would fucking, he would buy a fucking locket.

Thank you. You guys are getting old, though.
We are getting old. Billy would definitely try to kill us.
Billy should be kept in an undisclosed location. We should never actually be in the same room ever.
It's true. Billy would fucking, he would buy a fucking rocket launcher and just wait on the highway in Pennsylvania.
Billy would buy a Tesla for us to make the drive and then program the autopilot to take us off the road. Yes.
All right, so it's getting tight. This is fun.
This is exactly what we wanted. It's chaos.
If anyone just doesn't even remember, the second-place person and the last-place person are driving to L.A. for the Super Bowl while all of us fly.
It's going to be great. So I don't want to make excuses, but I am technically still 13-0 in my last 13 games when I've been wearing the hat to watch the games because I didn't wear it on Sunday when I went 2-1.
But I'll take 15-1. But for the record, the hat...
Since over it's tonight, the only thing standing between you and the streak was the Urban Meyer-less Jaguars. Yeah, I didn't realize just how great of a coach Urban Meyer must have been.
Yeah, yes. Alright, Hank, get us started.
So we're doing the lines as of right now, obviously. When you see this posted on Saturday, people are going to be like, what the fuck? COVID, we don't know.
It's literally the lines as of 6.50 on Tuesday, December 22nd. Hank, 21st.
I'm taking the Browns plus seven versus the Packers. Hungry Dogs.
Wait, we're going to favorites first. Favorites first, my bad.
That's how we always do, yeah. Yeah, that's my bad.
I just have Browns written first. I'm going off my notes, not the proper order.
That's my fault. My favorite is Chargers minus 9 versus the Texans.
Me too. That's mine.
Okay. I like it, Hank.
Texas are hot off of a win. Yeah, but did they peak too early? And also the Chargers, they're going to be hungry.
I don't think that there's ever been a game in NFL history that has a bigger disparity between the two head coaches in terms of how much they like to punt. Yeah.
You got Brandon Staley and David Cully. How much they like to coach.
Yeah, probably how much they like to coach. Cully is already, he's fired, right, at the end of the season? If they fire him, that's actually fucked up.
It is fucked up how they used him for the season, but in another way, I mean, he got an opportunity that he probably never would have had on any other team. That's true.
Okay, so good favorite. I'm surprised you didn't take the Patriots, Hank.
No, I mean, that's just... Makes makes me seem like you're nervous? I am nervous.
I'm definitely nervous. I'm very nervous.
What are you nervous about? I'm nervous about the Bills having a chip on their shoulder. I'm nervous about having a rookie quarterback who didn't look great last week.
You're not in Mac America great again? No, I'm in Mac America great again. I'm just not.
I'm nervous.

I'm not overly confident.

I'm expecting us to win, but I'm nervous.

I'm actually.

So it's one, you know, I don't want to lose that game and then also lose it on this pick.

I'm actually going full send on Mac Jones for the rest of the year.

I think that he needed to get his ass kicked a little bit.

Yeah.

Also, the cleanup from Monday, it was pointed out to me that this game does decide the afc east yeah because the patriots lost to the dolphins the bills have not lost another game in the afc east right now so that's the first tiebreaker um there's a great onside kick that was a terrible it went five yards mac kicking baby uh the dolphins. Mack kicking, baby.
I think his offense are mathematically alive.

In the AFC East?

Yeah, the Borgical Sportsbook, they're plus 8,000.

Oh, wow.

Okay, hammer that.

Sorry, so your favorite.

Liam, your favorite.

Sorry.

I'm going with the Jets, minus 2.5.

Ooh.

I knew it would be. Okay.
Yeah, I don't feel confident in a single one of these after looking at them. And I just figured that was so random.
That was so random. It's so random.
The Jaguars. I agree that the Jets are better than the Jaguars.
Don't the Jets play a different shitty team every weekend? Yeah, it seems like it. I feel like they have, what, Billy's saying no.
They they play some good teams yeah but i feel like they their schedule this year has just been a series of mismatches there's also just not a lot of good teams left yeah it's true a lot of teams are really bad good point good point i think every team has been slandered on the show at some point absolutely i don't know who's good i really don't i mean i'll tell you who's good who's good. I don't buy that.
I like how everyone's like, there's parity. There still are five to six teams that I think have been more consistent than the rest of the NFL all year.
It's the Cowboys, the Bucs, the Packers, the Chiefs, the Patriots, and then throw in the Colts. The Colts are probably in there.
And then maybe even the Rams.

No, I'm saying there's a list of teams.

The Colts are in there right now,

but I wouldn't count the Colts as being a team that's been consistent.

No, they haven't been consistent all year,

but they're playing great football right now.

Like, they're a good team.

Yeah.

They are a good team right now.

I think we do like the, oh, who's good?

I think there are some very good teams.

Yeah.

Counterpoint.

Yeah. The Bucs scored less on the Saints than the Jets did.
There you go. I mean, the Bucs did suck.
They suck all the time. But what? Well, I mean, any given Sunday, you are correct.
You are correct that any team can win any given Sunday. What about any given Tuesday? Any given Tuesday, maybe two.
But there are definitely good teams. I'm not picking on you, Billy.
I've seen writers write this being like, no one's good. I totally disagree.
There are probably six or seven teams that are definitively good. I did like Bruce Arian's explanation that he gave on Antonio Brown coming back to the team.
He was like, our football team just really needs him because he's very good. Yeah, no, last year he's like, if he has one fuck-up, he's out.
It has nothing to do with whether or not Bruce Arians has forgiven him for his fuck-up. It's like, well, Godwin got hurt, and our offense sucks.
And Leonard Fournette's out. We scored zero points.
We really need this guy. Yep.
Very badly. All right, my favorite, I'm going to go with the Colts.
The Colts are a pick-em right now, but I'll take them as a favorite. Is that okay? Or you want me to take them as an underdog? I don't think you can take them as either.
You can take either, right? You can't take the game? No. No, I feel like you can take them as either.
No, they're not a favorite. I'll take them as minus a half then.
If it's a tie game, I lose. The Colts minus a half? Yeah, let's just do that, right? That's fair because you're right.
It's not an under – so they have to win the game. And I'm taking it out of pride and principle, and it does kind of go against my hole.
I like to have all ten fingers. But the Cardinals need to lose this game, and they have to be forced to tweet about it.
Yes. Otherwise, I might.
What if the Cardinals tweet about it though before the game? You're kind of fucked. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true.
There's a lot of daylight between now and then. I'll stick with it.
I'll stick with it. I think it's been so long that they're cursed no matter what.
Well, yeah, irregardless, I still think that the Cardinals are just frauds. It's just a fraudulent team right now they're soft and again they're top five fraud right now in america i do feel bad for cardinals fans because it's not their fault that their twitter account is fucking lame and it's also not their fault that their team falls apart for the second year in a row i feel bad for them uh but maybe have them tweet the final score and they wouldn't be cursed as cursed as they are.

Who's up next?

Billy.

No, you have the Jets.

Jake.

I'm taking the Packers minus seven against the Browns.

Browns obviously had a lot without COVID,

so I don't know if I'll get everybody back.

And the Packers are just being the Packers recently.

And Aaron Rodgers is faking his toe injury. Yes.
And you also heard Hank just take the Browns, so you're going head-to-head with him. Yes, I am.
All right, so Hank, you like the Browns as your underdog. I love the Browns as the underdog.
Hungriest dog. I think they are like the 17% chance, I think, to make the playoffs.
They still want it. They played well on Monday night.
This is it. This is their season is their season plus sevens a lot of points and yeah hungry dogs so baker's coming back right it's not gonna be nick mullins again uh he said he tested negative he has no symptoms or he said he has no symptoms he just needs like one more negative test or something so it looks like he'll be back i love nick mullins i do too i think nick mullins is the perfect backup backup to scoot in for a game.
Yep. Yep.
Okay. Liam, you're underdog.
I'm taking Giants plus 10 and a half. Too many points.
Against the... Birds.
Birds. Eagles.
That's correct. Okay.
Liam, you're really relying on the city of New York. That's a lot.
That's asking for a lot. It's true.
Just warning you. Jets and Giants is your pick.
When they win, they win together, though, no? That's true. That's also true.
Greatest football statistically. They sync up.
I think the Giants beat the Saints. Oh, two times, memes is saying.
Two times. That's my trend I spotted this week.
I'm parlaying it. I'm parlaying it right now.
All right. PFT, your underdog.
My underdog is the Ravens, plus two and a half of the Bengals. I feel like it's – the two and a half is really good for me because if the Ravens lose, they're going to lose by one point for not going for it.
Going for two, yep. That's some weird situation.
I also love Huntley. I just – like I said on Monday's show, he's my new quarterback crush.
I think that he's going to go on a little tear here. I want, if I didn't already have complete and total faith in Taylor Heineke, I would want Huntley on the football team.
What if Lamar plays? If Lamar plays, I actually feel like the Ravens have a better chance of beating the Bengals with Huntley than they do with Lamar. Yeah.
And not because Lamar is a worse player overall, but I think that whatever offense they're running with Huntley, it's clicking for some reason right now. And so you don't want to go all the way away from that.
I don't know. I just like Huntley.
And if he doesn't play, then I'm going to sound like an idiot. That's okay.
We all sound dumb. But also, I mean, the Bengals have been playing well for the last couple weeks, right? They won in Denver, and then before that, that they smoked.
Lost to the 49ers. In overtime.
Yeah. In a game that they probably should have won.
Yeah. Right? But they're still playing okay.
They're playing good football. I feel like the Bengals are a team that you can almost time the swing of their pendulum a little bit.
Because they're not great, but they're not bad either. Huge game.
They're just going to go back and forth. Huge game.
So I like the Ravens in this one. Okay.
That's also my pick. Oh, that's also your pick.
Oh, fuck. Okay.
Everything you just talked. You talked yourself in circles, and then Billy just came and smashed it.
Yep. Jake, where's the fucking love for Tua? Plus three and a half Monday night.
Are we together on that one? I thought that was a misprint. Tua? Come on.
How can you not take points with them right now? Plus three and a half. Tua versus Taysom.
Electric matchup. That is a great.
The Dolphins late season in a meaningful game in a dome with those uniforms, I like it. I like it.
I don't like those uniforms in New Orleans, though. In a dome? I don't think it plays.
I think it plays better outside. All right, so we have everyone's underdog.
Okay, Hank, overs. My over is the Raiders and the Broncos over 42.
It's a low over. It's a low over.
Derek Carr, they were showing the stats and his comeback wins. He's a gunslinger.
He doesn't throw interceptions. He doesn't throw interceptions.
He gets the ball downfield. 42 is a low number.
Drew Locke, another gunslinger. So uh so yeah i think it's just going to be your

classic shootout i think great quarterbacks you can like build in at least one uh turnover from drew lock resulting in a touchdown a pick six or fumble six is going to happen drew lock for sure yes yeah he you just hope that the pick the interceptions don't happen in the red zone because he can be the perfect thing for an over by throwing it downfield

or also just fucking up and points the other way. Did you see that pass, Kirk? Yeah, it was bad.
This is going to fuck people's minds up, so let's not talk about the game. Liam, you're over.
I'm taking Bill's Pats over 43.5. I just feel like both of these teams have the potential to score.
I feel like one of them has to. Yep.
I like this over, too. I like it.
That's your over? Yeah, I like it, too, because it's almost like people still have in the back of their minds that game in Buffalo when they're factoring in the score of this game, which the over should have hit in that game, right? We were on pace in the first quarter. Yep.
And there's not going to be as much weather this time.

We don't think. We don't think.
We don't know, but we also don't think. Yes, we

don't think and we don't know. I'm taking the over.

Okay, my over is going to be the Bengals and the

Ravens.

The Bengals' offense has

been stagnant.

Good to come out

and break out against the Ravens'

defense that lets up tons of explosive

plays. You're going to

maybe throw in a couple Jamar Chase,

This is a production of the U. Are you going to maybe throw in a couple Jamar Chase bombs? I don't know.
Tyler Huntley magic. Some T-Higgins across the middle.
44.5. I like that too.
I see both teams scoring over 20 points. There we go.
Jake. No, Billy.
You're over. Cardinals, Colts, 49 and a half.
Yeah, 49 and a half for the over. Is that a game you expect no points? No, I think there should be tons of points.
We're doing the over, right? Yeah. But sometimes you pick the games that you reverse it.
Well, you can't try and lose when you're in last place. He's got to to try and get out of last.
I'm assuming all of these you're trying to win because it wouldn't really make sense if you were trying to lose at this point. There's no point in losing right now.
Although I also feel like Billy would be the most stoked out of all of us if he had to drive across the country. Yes, by far, by far.
If Billy and I, I said it earlier, but if Billy and I had to drive across the country, I would just far if billy and i i said earlier but billy and i had to drive across country i would just i will just make it a challenge to billy be like here boy see how fast we can get across the country and just never sleep monster energy and never sleep uh what are you gonna say billy no i mean my reputation's on the line here. Like, I got to start picking, right?

Yeah, people are going to be really disappointed.

I absolutely don't know anything.

You'd work so hard to build up the reputation as a football scholar.

Everything that people expect out of Billy football is on the line.

Exactly.

Cardinal calls.

Okay, Jake.

I'm with Big Cat once again.

Baltimore, Cincinnati, 44 and a half. We have a lot of repeats in every category Uh oh that's actually good for me And you PFT The more repeats the better at this point If you're separated Hank end us off with your under Banged up Tampa Carolina Under 44 44.
That's mine as well. Seems a little chalky.
Oh, no. Oh, boy.
That's three of ours. I just, I feel like this game, Tom Brady.
Seems too easy. It seems like one of those games that Tom Brady's like, I'll just find a way to win no matter what.
We'll do the bare minimum, but we'll win. Yeah, we'll get a lead.
We'll run the ball like 70% of the time. Right.
It will never be in doubt, but it's not going to be a blowout. Right, because going into the last game against the Saints, they weren't as knocked up.
They had those bad injuries, right? So they had both Furnette and Godwin. Did I just say knocked up? Knocked up.
They weren't pregnant going into the last game. But no, they didn't have those injuries, so their game plan was a lot different.
I feel like Tom Brady is a guy that when he knows what the situation is going into a game, if they're injured he can figure out ways to get around that with the game plan. Also, the weakness of the Bucs defense is their secondary and can anyone on Carolina throw a ball? Nope.
You're under Liam. Also, okay.
PFT. My under is Jets-Jags, 41.5.
I feel like this is a recipe for like a 13-6 game right here. Okay, let me just play the devil's advocate real quick.
What if Zach Wilson does something sick? No, he's going to do something. Is that what Billy was predicting? Yeah, he's going to do something, and the Jets are going to be sick.
He's going to do something, and they're going to be sick, but something for Zach Wilson is just like, if

he throws one 60-yard touchdown,

then that's something. And then he'll throw

two interceptions. Mr.
INT's coming

back. And then the Jaguars are just

a nuclear waste.

They're Chernobyl right now.

He's not going to be allowed to go into

Jacksonville for the next six months after the season's

over.

Billy.

My favorite under is

Bill's Patriots, 43 and a half.

Thank you. Jacksonville for the next six months after the season's over.
Billy. My favorite under is Bill's Patriots, 43 and a half.
I think it's going to be another under game. Belichick likes to keep it low scoring when he really needs to win.
And I think this is a need to win for the Patriots. Is that a stat you got? Yeah.
No, I'd just roll with it. I like it.
I agree with him. It sounded very good.
It sounds right. Yeah.
No, I mean, like, the first Bill's game, like, think about the Rams Super Bowl. He, like, likes to control the game by keeping it low score.
What about the Eagles Super Bowl or the Panthers Super Bowl? Or the Falcons Super Bowl? Yeah, those were all high scoring. That he could have needed to win.
We'll have someone dig that you... What about the Chiefs playoff games? I don't know how you define needs to win.
So someone do that. It can be very subjective, but give us the over-under record on games Bill Belichick needs to win.
Billy, all you need to say is Bill Belichick against mobile quarterbacks, very good coach. And again, don't know if that's true or not.

Right.

But you can just say it.

It's like doing the whole, like, you know how he beat Alabama,

mobile quarterback.

Yep.

Johnny Manziel.

Cam Newton.

Yeah.

Okay, who else?

Jake.

Yeah, I'm also a PFT.

Jacksonville Jets under 41 and a half.

First to 10 wins.

Ooh, I like that. Jake, Are you doing a little strategy here? Are you accusing me of cheating? Oh.
I just asked. I just asked a question.
Never in my life. Strategy? Wait, you've never.
Strategy would be cheating. Jake, you've never cheated in your life at anything? In this contest.
You said never in your life, though. So all of a sudden.
So now you've just admitted to lying right there. Now your credibility is in question.
No, I just left. I just didn't include all the details.
Whoa. A lie by omission.
Is Jake doing some strategy? He's also the one who keeps the records. Like, Jake could change my picks every week, and I would be like, okay.
I can't believe you guys are even Hank got you to bait. I've been nothing with honest.
You're the one that brought up cheating, Jake. I never mentioned the C word.
I don't know. I didn't.
I love it. I love it.
Okay, quick fire fest before we go. Send everyone off.
Merry Christmas to everyone. We'll see you on Monday, but quick fire fest.
I do have proof, by the way. I have a timestamp.
Like you're holding up a newspaper next to your picks? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, 6, 10 p.m. is when I enter my picks on the dock.
Wait. Did you screenshot that? No, I'm on the Google google doc and it says 6 10 p.m is when i put in my picks it was the last edit got it for the record even though me and bubba have some picks that are similar really no one accused you of cheating because even if you cheated you probably mess it up i think everyone just assumes that billy's cheating so it's only a half a game to get out of last place.
Billy's mad we didn't accuse him of cheating. Like, wait, I'm smart enough to do this.
What the fuck? He also is doing a strategy cheating. Like, yes.
All right. Hank.
My Firefest. So this, I've been obviously like home quarantining, chilling on my phone.
And this song, it's like, it's's on tiktok but every time i go on instagram wait you got covid i don't have covid oh you've been quarantining though then yeah i've been saying safe close contact i was very close with pft and he tested positive close um this i'm gonna play it oh this is like every instagram story real every single instagram Instagram video. It just pops up.
I can't do anything. If I watch an Instagram video, then it'll automatically scroll to a video playing this song.
And now my entire life, everything I'm doing, this is in my head. This is just the soundtrack to my life.
Is it the same video that keeps popping up? No. Everyone uses it on every video.
It's so annoying. This is a video of a guy driving in the snow.
If I keep going, it'll be like a video of someone in a waterfall. If I keep going, it'll be like...
I want to start doing... I was thinking about remaking the videos with trashed NYC streets.
What's the name of the song? I don't even know. The guy's name is...
I looked it up, though, because I needed to download the song. Is it the weekend? Another one, Hank.
There's like four songs that everyone uses. It's a Madonna remix.
This one drives me crazy, too. Yes.
And then you turn to the camera. Go Little Rock.
Those two songs songs are actually the last two TikToks that Big Cat did. You say the last two TikToks that Big Cat did, like I did them.
Well, they're trending songs. Yeah, no, I didn't choose.
I have never made a TikTok. You make them for me.
I know. Also, were you going to tell me about my nose hair in that video that i sent you i i don't see a nose hair yeah i got blown up on that one there was just a fucking nose hair sticking straight out of my nose and it was one of those situations where i was just i was literally walking my dog minding my own business billy text me like hey can you make this video real quick i did the nice thing i sent it back instantly and then like four hours elapsed and i just get start getting tagged on twitter with pictures of my fucking nose hair and people plowing me mad views though those just from in your nose hair no i did a go little trip a little rockstar one and and that one in there doing like quarter mil views.

Yeah, because these fucking platforms just brainwash you by putting every single video in your feed with the song.

Whatever.

I mean, it's just it's catchy, but like I just that's like that's that's just like if you're wondering what's going on in my head on a regular day, it's just like me walking around in that song playing.

Yeah, I can't get out of my head.

I'm with you.

I'm with you. All right.
PFT. Don't really have a fire fest to complain about right now because covid negative listen i'm a survivor yeah i survived covid the only thing i can say is i you know i did shrink an inch and a half so that's tough that is um but you know we we move on from that and we we regroup and it'll be fine the long term height doesn't matter hank's on a crazy delay, which is very funny right now.
I don't know what his bet was. I have Antonio Gibson first touch-out story.
He got fucking stuffed at the goal line. Crazy delay.
All right, yeah, so you're a little shorter? I'm a little shorter from the COVID, though. Yeah, it is.
But, I mean, that's just one of the side effects that you deal with and, you know, you move on and everything will be fine the long term. I survived COVID.
Yeah. So I have nothing to complain about.
I'm blessed. I'm thankful to be back here in the studio with you guys.
Hank's ahead of us, actually. And Hank is- We got to end this show because now it's getting- there's too much football going on.
Mentally, spiritually, Hank is leading us all. I tweeted it, but I took my son to the dentist and it was a very big betrayal of trust.
He looked at me like, what the fuck? Did you get a cute video of him afterwards?

He was all gassed up?

No, he was all gassed up.

I did kill the vibes because the dentist made a balloon animal for him.

And I was like, oh, did they teach you this at dental school?

And didn't think that was funny.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

Dentist sucks no matter what.

No matter what age.

All right, Billy, Jake, quicklyiktok's just destroying my brain i'm just being fed so much misinformation on tiktok my brain's turned to mush because i watch too much tiktok you have control of your own life i know but i have to like do tiktok you have to post to tiktok right but in order to be good at posting tiktok you have to watch tiktok right that's true okay that's fair yesterday billy said that girls can't make machine gun sounds with their mouth because it was a trend on tiktok so i don't know if it's a tiktok issue or if it's a billy's brain believing things that should never be believed by anybody yeah it's both we're killing billy Jake, wrap us up. Yeah, I was flying yesterday and a dog sat behind me, but I survived.
See, that's my dream scenario. Something everyone loves, yeah.
Every time I get off a plane and I see a dog get off the plane after me, I'm like, why couldn't I have been set next to the dog? This booperino. All right.
Let's go numbers. Six.

88.

69. You mean 19.

GG 19.

Gary Gilbert.

I'm going to go 22 for that guy.

I'm going to start.

22 is going to be my new number.

Liam, what did you say?

Four?

Six.

Six.

Four.

Three for memes.

Oh. We got a three-way jam at the top.
We got a jam. We're going to have to redraw.
No number. Here we go.
Three-way stop. It was a tie.
It was a score-igami. 16.
16. Going to spread my wings

Merry Christmas everyone

See everyone on Monday

Love you guys

Ducks have coarse screw penises

Love you guys Looking away I'm to say I Saves my life Saves anyway It's gonna change Today's enough I'll close my eyes Day to find you Begin to pray Shying away The tears of joy Stream down my face I'll be coming for your love of peace Take on me Take me on I'll be gone empty home chain. Well, I don't know.
Needless to say. If I'm ready.
I'm all descended. To see the mind.
But I'm I mean I have to be

Stolen away

I'll take away

Stolen away

Life is okay

Say it all

To me

It's the better

To be safe

But self

Take on me

Take me on I'll be gone Winter of tea With arms wide open