Kurt Warner, Our Trip To Buffalo & Bring Your Lunch Pail With Jersey Jerry

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Kurt Warner in studio talking some football with the Hall of Famer Kurt warner we also uh recap our trip to buffalo monday night football what an event what a game uh we talk about all that we have our good friend jersey jerry back for bring your lunch pail is what we're calling it bring your lunch pail yeah blue collar talk also he's playing he's uh fighting in the rough and rowdy on friday night so we're going to talk to him about that as well at the end of the show uh hot seat cool throne and we're brought to you by our friends at I'm not going back to college to be your friend.

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Speaker 1 Listen, guys,

Speaker 6 I've learned a lot over the years.

Speaker 6 You know, I know some things. I don't know some other things.

Speaker 6 Before yesterday, I was steadfast in my belief that weather doesn't matter. Wind is not a factor unless it's a tornado.

Speaker 6 And I was proven correct pretty much up until last night, but Bill Belichick, the wisest, smartest man in the history probably of this planet, one of the greatest leaders who has ever lived, taught me a lesson, and I'm okay with that.

Speaker 6 I'm willing to admit, because of what Bill Belichick showed me, that weather does matter. Okay.
Wind can be a factor.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 And if it's windy,

Speaker 6 there might not be as many points.

Speaker 1 Weather

Speaker 1 does exist.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 but that's still a maybe because when was the weather the worst?

Speaker 5 At the start of the game. At the start of the game.

Speaker 1 In the first quarter,

Speaker 5 most points were in the first quarter. If you're going to have bad weather, I think it's better to have really, really bad weather than halfway bad weather.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're right. Like the wind, the problem with the wind is the wind got tired out.
We needed more wind to keep it crazier. It was a wild game.
We were there. We're going to recap our trip,

Speaker 1 but let's talk about the actual game first. So the Patriots, Bill Belichick,

Speaker 1 we should have been clued in when he wore the Navy football mask before the game. It is Army-Navy week.

Speaker 1 And then he went and attempted three passes the entire night, one of which I'm pretty sure Mac Jones checked out of a run.

Speaker 5 In the first half, they really attempted,

Speaker 5 they called zero passes in the first half, but Mac Jones checked into that pass that he threw for like a 16-yard gain or whatever. Belichick was probably furious when he checked into that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they had a stretch where they had 32 straight runs. 93% of their play calls were runs.
They ran it down the Bills' throat.

Speaker 1 It became so hilarious and ridiculous that I kept on saying while we were at the game, I was like, they can fuck him up with a pass here because no one's expecting it.

Speaker 1 But then I actually think it reversed on it where it's like, no, they're going to fuck him up because they ran it when it was, I think there was like a third and 14 that they ran it when everyone thought they were going to pass it to set up that field goal.

Speaker 1 And they just kept on running it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so the Bills got double reversed by Bill Belichick. Yes.
And they started to be like, wait,

Speaker 5 now he's going to pass it. Surely.
Surely he'll pass it now. And then nope, just kept running it.
Like, it was, it was a crazy football game.

Speaker 5 It was something that I don't think any of us have ever seen, at least live before. Yes.
Whether like those conditions and how they affected the kicks, especially.

Speaker 5 More field goal luck, by the way, Hank, for your New England Patriots. If they make that field goal on the second to last drive in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Which I still disagree with them taking it because we watched field goals be taken in that part of the end zone and everything got hit by like a brick wall.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so the ball would get held up and then as it would stop in mid-air, it would get pushed over to the side. Yes.
No matter how hard you kicked kicked it, especially Bass.

Speaker 5 The Patriots kicker seemed to be doing pretty well into that wind

Speaker 5 when he was warming up for the game, but Bass was really struggling with it.

Speaker 6 Also, but the Bills had the opportunity to either defer the kickoff or pick the field, and they deferred the kickoff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good thing.

Speaker 6 Which affected the second.

Speaker 6 That means they had to go on the bad field in the second and fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 The entire Bills... Bill checks a genius.
Yeah, the Bills...

Speaker 1 Game plan seemed a little bit weird last night because there was very clearly one way that you're going. You can pass the ball one way, it's harder.

Speaker 1 You should be running hurry up when you're going with the wind.

Speaker 1 You should be using timeouts when you're going with the wind.

Speaker 1 You should be running the ball, which the Patriots did all game, but they especially did it when they're going against the wind to run clock and get the wind in your favor.

Speaker 1 It felt like Belichick had control of that game from the jump. It felt like the Bills didn't.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if we want to, like, this is going to be tough because we love the city of Buffalo, but it's bad for, we were listening to the radio on the way out.

Speaker 1 It's bad for the Bills right now because they thought this was going to be the year they're going to win the AFC East. They won it last year, but this was a year like they're building something.

Speaker 1 They're contending for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 The Patriots come in, bad weather, beat them, and now they're still going to make the playoffs, but now in a three-week stretch or four-week stretch, the Bills season can sort of kind of fall apart here by having to face the Patriots and Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Like the Bills just, if you're a Bills fan, you just had the Patriots come into Buffalo, beat you for

Speaker 1 lead in the division, and then throwing the ball three times. And throwing the ball three times, and then what's your consolation prize next week?

Speaker 1 Oh, you have to go up against the quarterback that as a team, the Bills are, or Tom Brady is 32 and three against.

Speaker 5 You're down real bad if you're a real Bills fan right now because, and especially not just the fans, I actually think that the coaching staff has the exact same sentiment and the same feeling that we heard on the sports talk show callers yesterday because Sean McDermott was getting so pissed off in his press conference.

Speaker 5 He's entered the like Marsha, Marsha, Marsha phase, where he's like, stop talking to me about Bill Belichick. I get it.
Everybody loves Bill. I'm not bad.
Stop talking about Bill like that.

Speaker 5 And so he's like, he's definitely understanding that he got out coached a little bit last night. Yes.
They should have done all sorts of weird stuff. You're right.

Speaker 5 They should have used their timeouts in the first and third quarters.

Speaker 1 Should have gone hurry up with the wind.

Speaker 5 They should have gone hurry up with the wind.

Speaker 1 Because Josh Allen could throw.

Speaker 5 They should have had Josh Allen throw the ball as far as he can into the wind on third down, send a guy downfield and use that as a punt because you're not able to punt into that wind.

Speaker 5 It goes like 15 yards if you try. I said last night when we were in the booth, I really believe that it's true.

Speaker 5 Like, this is that episode of The Sopranos where Artie Bucco saw his grandfather's recipe for rabbit, and he was like, you know what? I'm going to rediscover my love for cooking.

Speaker 5 And then he made that after the restaurant started to suck. That's what Bill Belichick did with his dad's playbook.
Yeah. He's like,

Speaker 5 these are the plays that my dad used to run. I'm going to blow the dust off this.
I'm going to hand it to Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 5 And we're, I actually think that Bill Belichick did not want to attempt a single pass last night. Oh, absolutely.
He was forced into it at the end. And it would have been amazing.
I actually, that's.

Speaker 5 That's a regret that Bill Belichick's going to have. He's not going to have many of them at the end of his career, but he's going to regret not winning this game with zero passes.
With zero passes.

Speaker 6 If the pun return didn't get fucked up, I really think that would have happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 I mean, Belichick is like in his element. I know that there's a camp being like, what? He didn't do anything special.
Well, he harnessed the wind and he was able to win a game.

Speaker 1 Like, we were joking on the way in that Belichick probably has an entire

Speaker 1 binder full of just like win games. If a win game happens, here's what we do.
And you could just feel like it was a close game.

Speaker 1 The Bills defense,

Speaker 1 we saw the clip afterwards, Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde being upset about the question. Was it embarrassing? I think that was a fair question.
Because you got run on.

Speaker 1 And you got run on, and you got run on some more.

Speaker 5 The problem was then the reporter was like, in my day, we used to be able to ask those questions.

Speaker 5 Anytime you start a sentence by saying, like, in my day, you're already saying, like, it's not currently my day right now.

Speaker 1 But here's the problem if you're the Bills, because the Bills' defense has been good, but

Speaker 1 I think there's a prevailing sentiment of like they've been good, but their schedule has been a little soft, so you don't know.

Speaker 1 So I've mentioned before Stat Hole Sports, Jeff Henderson, who does these weird stats for us, he did a graphic, most runs in a row since 1999 called by an offense.

Speaker 1 The top two are against the 2021 Buffalo Bills. Last night, the Patriots called 32 in a row, and then week 11 against the Colts, the Colts called 24 run plays in a row.

Speaker 1 And if you look at what the Patriots play. That is embarrassing.
That's embarrassing. Literally, it's the entire graphic.

Speaker 1 I retweeted it the graphic is most runs in in a row and it's in blue it's versus the 2021 buffalo bills and in gray it's versus not the 2021 buffalo bills and then it's the list of everything else but the bills have played three teams that can impose their will and run on you the patriots the colts and the titans and all three teams have been able to run on them the bills also in the words of a paul feinbaum caller ain't beat nobody yeah they beat the chiefs but that's before the chiefs became the chiefs these chiefs Yeah, that was those Chiefs.

Speaker 5 Correct. And

Speaker 5 they were losing to a lot of teams that probably shouldn't be beating them nowadays. But yeah, the Bills, they struggle against good teams.
They struggle against more physical teams.

Speaker 5 And that is embarrassing for a defense. That's bad.
And I was watching Baldy's breakdown of this game. Baldy was, this is Baldy in his element.

Speaker 5 I'm pretty sure Baldy just went outside in his own backyard where it was cold so he could watch this game to feel like he was there.

Speaker 5 He was breaking down how the Patriots were calling the same play, the exact same play over and over, but they were alternating, we're going to run it to the right, and then the next play to the left, then the next play back to the right.

Speaker 5 It was going back and forth, back and forth. Shout out Ray Allen.
And they were doing the exact same running play, and it was working every single time.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's Jim Harbaugh-esque. I think Jim Harbaugh actually did that in a bowl game where he ran the same exact play like 13 times in a row.

Speaker 1 It is the most demoralizing thing when a team runs on you and they know that

Speaker 1 they're going to run and you can't stop it. Now, we don't want to be all doom and gloom because, like I said, said,

Speaker 1 it's terrible. Keep it coming.
Keep it coming. No, no, no.
If you're a Bills fan and it's like, we lost that game. I thought, I thought it was coming.
And then we played Tom Brady, who's like our boy.

Speaker 1 Like, this sentence happened. That should have got a deer run.

Speaker 1 This sentence shouldn't happen to the Bills because it's so, so painful to even say that the Bills season is going to fall apart because they have to play the Patriots and also Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's so good. Like, they have to play that three out of four games against the Patriots and also Tom Brady.

Speaker 5 You used to be able to get that out of the way in one week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one full swing.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's just made it more painful for them. What was that one caller that we heard last night when we were leaving the parking lot? He said that

Speaker 5 it was like McDermott was playing checkers and Belichick was playing three-dimensional Star Wars.

Speaker 5 Star Trek. Star Trek chess.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that exists, but it exists in their mind.

Speaker 1 And so, all right, so let's do positive for the Bills because...

Speaker 1 You still are going to make the playoffs. You have to play Tom Brady.
Confirmed? Well, they have games against the Panthers,

Speaker 1 Panthers, Falcons, and Jets all at home, still left on the schedule.

Speaker 5 Would have been nice to beat the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 Would have been nice to beat the Jaguars, but I think that you can comfortably say that the Bills will get to 10 wins, which should get them into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And maybe you build something, maybe you get hot at the right time. That game sucked.
It also just sucks because we had a bunch of Bills fans sitting with us.

Speaker 1 Shout out Benny the Butcher and Tony De Niro. They were sitting with us.
And

Speaker 1 Pizza Pete, it was like

Speaker 1 they basically kept on turning to Dave, Feidelberg, and Hank, and they're like,

Speaker 1 we need this. We need this.

Speaker 1 They were almost asking for permission to win that game. And I went up to Pizza Pete, who, if you don't know Pizza Pete, he's part of a huge tailgate in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 He cooks pizzas out of a filing cabinet. Great guy.

Speaker 1 I was like, sorry, Pizza Pete, after the game. And he was like, ah, life goes on.

Speaker 5 I was like, you've done this before. It's sad.

Speaker 5 We were walking out to the car, and me and Feites walked past

Speaker 5 one of the pizza stands that they had set up in the the concourse there.

Speaker 5 And it was just this woman by herself sitting on the counter, staring down at the ground right in front of her, not blinking, not saying a word, just misery.

Speaker 5 If Norman Rockwell got really depressed, that's exactly what he would be painting.

Speaker 5 It was very sad to watch.

Speaker 5 The disappointment in Benny's voice when he was like, come on, guys. He was literally doing the do something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 The poke it with a stick. Right.
That's what he was saying.

Speaker 5 He was like, come on. Like, this is supposed to be our year.
But the spin zone for Buffalo is, I guess now it's time where you can circle the wagons.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 You don't circle the wagons when times are good.

Speaker 1 Well, no, but seriously, though, if they go down to Tampa Bay and win this game on Sunday, they're okay. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You have a chance right away to change it. And

Speaker 1 the Bucs have a running back that can run the ball. Oh, fuck.
They do.

Speaker 5 Playoff Lenny. Shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the week after... No, that's the Patriots again.
The week after. No, that's the Panthers.
The Panthers.

Speaker 1 yep you beat the panthers you're not a fan of l ron chubbard the pan the panthers have given up they have they fired they fired our offensive coordinator who's calling plays yeah and christian mccaffrey's probably out for the year they've given up i the bills are going to make the playoffs if you're a bills fan maybe this will be the start of the dvd like couldn't be lower right couldn't be lower than bill belichick running 32 times down your throat if they go two and one against uh Brady and the Pats, and they like they, if they win against the Brady and then against the Pats, then they're back.

Speaker 1 They're going to have a a completely different. But that's a tall, tall, tall task.
They need to do something. It seems like the locker room is falling apart.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on.

Speaker 1 What do you mean it seems like a locker? You never know what's going on. We give a lock too much.
You never know what's going on in the locker room.

Speaker 1 Here's a fact.

Speaker 6 It's either a situation where they're going to come together,

Speaker 6 start of the championship DVD, you've had a bad game, the team comes together, they come back and they have a good end of the year, or they are falling apart and they're going to get killed by the Bucs.

Speaker 6 But I think you're not going to know until Sunday.

Speaker 1 What they could do, what if Cole DC just went and got vaccinated?

Speaker 1 I'm taking for the team. I'm ready to go, boys.
I think, yeah,

Speaker 1 I mean, that's like that would be the equivalent of Rudy.

Speaker 5 He walks into coach's office and lays his vaccination card on his desk.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't that make Cole Beasley the greatest teammate of all time? If he's like, I'm not getting vaccinated, people think I'm not getting vaccinated because I don't believe in the vaccine.

Speaker 1 I'm not getting vaccinated because it's an ace up my sleeve that I can rally the troops whenever we need it late in the season.

Speaker 5 Okay, if we're being honest, and I'm not rooting for this, but if Cole Beasley were to get vaccinated and he was one of the like 0.5% that had a really adverse reaction to it, and so he's like, I was right, I shouldn't have gotten vaccinated, but he was holed up in bed for the next like two months.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Then the team rallies around Cole

Speaker 5 for doing that to try to protect them.

Speaker 1 Good point. That's good point.
He's looking out for you all along.

Speaker 5 Again, I'm not rooting for that to happen, but it would be poetic if it did.

Speaker 1 The season's not over for Buffalo. It might feel like it.

Speaker 1 Speaking from my own experience, this is like, I'm about to do the same thing on Sunday night. Like, there's nothing worse than just feeling helpless against a division rival.

Speaker 1 It's meet the old boss or meet the new boss, same as the old boss, kind of feeling to it. But trust Buffalo.
Trust.

Speaker 5 I think they'll be okay. They need to do something drastically different, though, the next time that they play the Patriots on defense.
Make a pass?

Speaker 5 They're probably going to, yeah, they might do the defense that the Chargers did to the Ravens. Remember that in the playoffs a few years ago? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Where they just put like nine dudes up close to the line of scrimmage the entire time. Beat us Mac Jones.
Beat us Mac Jones.

Speaker 5 You can live with losing to Mac Jones. Yes.
Although I do love the fact that Patriots fans are like, you know, see, this is Mac. He's a great game manager.
Mac won. Mac did not lose us that game.

Speaker 1 I mean, oh, actually, no, I was going to say he went the whole game without fucking up a handoff, but I didn't see a replay of the pitch that got fucked up in the hands of the hands.

Speaker 1 Okay, so they hit him in his hands.

Speaker 5 If it hits your hands, you got to catch it. Touch it.
You can catch it. Now, Hank, do you think the Patriots might be peaking too soon?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 I kind of do, actually.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.
Well, the Colts are

Speaker 1 pretty big game coming up. Like, you're going right back to.

Speaker 6 We have the buy.

Speaker 1 Oh, the buy. That's right.

Speaker 1 The buys are too late this year. This is too late.
Yes,

Speaker 1 fantasy playoff football season now. And people coming out of Travis.

Speaker 5 Is it Trent Brown the left tackle?

Speaker 1 He's insane. He is

Speaker 5 the biggest person I've ever seen in my life. He makes everyone else look small.
The tight end, Johnny Smith, right? Yeah. That was lined up next to him.

Speaker 5 It made him, it looked like me standing next to Big Cat.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 5 Trent Brown standing next to Johnny. It was insane.
He's got to be like 6'9,

Speaker 5 350. He's, I might be.

Speaker 1 I leave you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might have been generous.

Speaker 1 One other thing about the game that

Speaker 1 we got to mention. I don't think this is a take that is like a prevailing popular take, but I saw enough people say it that we have to address it.

Speaker 1 The fucking nerds that were complaining about the weather, that were saying all games should be played in a dome. The one tweet from this guy, Jay Berman, he said, this isn't fun or funny.

Speaker 1 It inexplicably impacts the outcome. How are you okay with that? Just end the charade and build 32 domes, please.

Speaker 5 He's right, because it's not fun or funny. It's both fun and funny.

Speaker 1 Yes, because listen, I was thinking about it, like, and it might be recency bias, but I think if you, you know, maybe next year we can do a poll. What are the two most memorable

Speaker 1 Monday night games we've had in the last five years?

Speaker 1 I would probably argue that it's last night because of how weird and different it was, and then Chiefs Rams, which was perfect environment, crazy offense. Like, why not both?

Speaker 1 The reason why playing outside and having to deal with the elements in December is fun is that you have games like last night. Do I want to watch that game every single day? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 But it was weird. It was fun.
You saw coaches adapt or not adapt if you're Sean McDermott. You saw football that you haven't seen in a very long time.

Speaker 1 Like, you will remember a three-pass game with 32 consecutive run plays. That's what makes sports fun.

Speaker 1 Being like every game should be played in a dome in perfect environment is like making it's arena football. You're making it completely sterile.
You're making it all the same.

Speaker 1 You're basically saying we want to have a track meet every single game, and we don't want to have any variables. The variables in sports make it fun.
Like, think about baseball.

Speaker 1 Every single field is different.

Speaker 5 I think they should do that with the NFL.

Speaker 1 It's fun.

Speaker 5 Like, the Vikings should have just one pull for the uprights to make it even.

Speaker 1 It's basically,

Speaker 1 if you have a take of every game should be played in a dome, I just assume that you essentially want NFL, you want football to be played on a spreadsheet. Yeah,

Speaker 5 you don't like watching the games. You would prefer to watch the little dot diagrams that they put up after the plays.
They're like, wow, look at this play.

Speaker 5 The freaks that nut over the dot diagrams absolutely confuse me.

Speaker 5 Why do you want to look at that? You're more interested in seeing, like, in theory, if this game was being played, like, if this game was being observed by a robot, this is what it would look like.

Speaker 5 No, you want the variables. You want the snow.
In fact, the more drastic the weather conditions, the better across the board in all sports. It's so much more fun.

Speaker 5 It reminds you of playing snow football when you're a kid, which is the best time that you can ever have in your entire life. And not to get horny with it, I'm not being horny.
Okay.

Speaker 5 For the record, I'm not being horny. Miley Cyrus is hot.

Speaker 5 Would I want every woman to look like Miley Cyrus? No, I wouldn't because then I'd miss out on the Cardi B's. Right.
You know, like you want a little variety.

Speaker 1 You want following the film. No, I'm following.
Like

Speaker 5 Buffalo weather is ratchet as fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm following.

Speaker 5 And you need a little bit of ratchet to spice things up.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also, guess what?

Speaker 1 It's fun in the playoffs when it's like, hey, if you want home field advantage, if you want to have weather on your side, like I happen to enjoy when a team builds around the weather and they're like, hey, we're going to run the, like, the craziest thing about the Bills right now, and I don't want to bring it all the way back to like dumping on the Bills because they are still a good team, but

Speaker 1 they got to figure out a way to be able to run the ball. Like, it's going to be cold.
It's going to be windy. It's going to be snowy in Buffalo in December.

Speaker 1 You should have a team that can run the ball because that's what the Patriots have built. I just, I love the element of every game is different and played in different circumstances.

Speaker 1 So anyone who says, again, I don't think this is a popular thought, but I saw enough of it last night that I had to say those people are nerds, dorks, and losers.

Speaker 1 Anti-football pussies.

Speaker 5 There we go.

Speaker 4 Anti-football pussy of the week. Yes.

Speaker 1 Although,

Speaker 6 still, I just want to clarify on my stance. I will still be smashing pretty much every over in any game with weather existing.

Speaker 1 I got a situation.

Speaker 6 I acknowledge

Speaker 6 its existence.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 You're no longer an atheist when it comes to weather. You're an agnostic.

Speaker 1 You're just going to ignore it, but you acknowledge that it's there. By the way,

Speaker 5 it's not unheard of to think that like Belichick has something to do with how the weather is being formed. Yeah.
If any coach had

Speaker 5 a cold machine or a wind machine, it'd probably be Bill.

Speaker 1 It was so bad in the van. So let's talk about our trip because it was a great trip.
We went to Wingnuts. Great to see Ed and Alicia.
Thank you to everyone who bought a shirt or a sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 We raised, I think the total, if you saw the check, it was like $15,000. I think the actual check I gave to Ed was like $16,500.

Speaker 1 And the shirts are still up there.

Speaker 5 New shirts, too.

Speaker 1 New shirts, sweatshirts, size, sauciness, crunch with a buffalo wing. If If you buy it, we're going to still keep giving them money.
They said, what'd they say to you, PFT?

Speaker 5 They said that they've been sold out since we visited in August. They've been sold out every single day except for 11 days before they even opened.
Crazy. So they sold out every day, obviously.
Yes.

Speaker 5 But before they even opened up for business, they weren't able to take orders except for 11 days since August. And Ed was...

Speaker 5 Ed was very happy to see us. And it was good to see Ed and Lucia thriving.
Like, they were genuinely, they were grateful for everything that you guys have done for them by buying these shirts

Speaker 5 and going to visit them. And they truly do love you guys.

Speaker 5 If you are trying to get wing nuts and you're in Buffalo, it might be frustrating, but the process they've got right now is hit them up on Facebook Messenger and they'll reply to you one by one whether or not they can fill that order.

Speaker 5 They don't have a better way to take care of it right now because they're so busy.

Speaker 1 And hopefully, this money will help them.

Speaker 5 Yeah, hopefully that'll help that. But they're so busy.

Speaker 5 And the wings,

Speaker 5 they're just as good, if not better

Speaker 1 than when they went than when we went there in august i told ed i was like ed uh i kind of hate you because i you ruined chicken wings for me i can't eat chicken wings anywhere else and he goes you're welcome yeah no but it's the truth yeah it really is like having those wings changed my life changed all of our lives so it was great seeing them it was great being in buffalo every time we're in buffalo the people are very very nice uh but what i was gonna say was so we went to wing nuts then we got in the van and we went to the game and in the van it was essentially like a podcast that we were doing just out loud, talking about how the wind doesn't matter and the wind doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 And then we all talked each other into taking the over,

Speaker 1 which was very, very stupid.

Speaker 5 You guys talked me into the dumbest bet. It got

Speaker 4 just funny.

Speaker 6 Well, I wasn't going to take the over, but then you were like going with my theory that wind doesn't matter. I was like, well, I can't not get in on this.

Speaker 5 I retired from gambling, and you assholes talked me in to taking the stupidest bet of all time.

Speaker 1 Not in the first quarter. You felt awesome in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 One moment. That was live 46.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 5 He threw three passes, and you guys brought me back into the gambling game. It was electric, though.

Speaker 1 For that moment that we thought we could basically call out the entire internet and be like, the wind doesn't exist, you fucking idiots. That was a moment I'll always have because I really was.

Speaker 1 Like, I was mapping out in my head what I was going to do a video being like, ha ha, fuck you guys. The wind is a fucking pussy.
We own the wind. It would have been incredible.

Speaker 1 But no, it didn't happen that way. But yeah, the stadium is cool.
That was the first time we've been, or PFT and I have been in the stadium. Hank, you'd been there before.
Ate so much.

Speaker 1 Every time I go to Buffalo, shout out Lenova Pizza. Awesome pizza.

Speaker 5 Buffalo has the best food.

Speaker 1 It's incredible.

Speaker 5 Maybe, maybe the most underrated food, but it's all food that's designed to keep you warm as you eat it. And happy.
And happy. So it's like gravy, pizza, and wings.

Speaker 5 Those are the three main food groups in Buffalo. Yeah.
And that makes for a very happy population.

Speaker 6 Some guy licked your nipple.

Speaker 1 Some guy licked my nipple.

Speaker 6 Wonder what he, I wonder, I wonder what he was doing today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably brushing his teeth.

Speaker 6 I wonder if he had like a girlfriend that saw it and was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 I had a fire fest that I'll save for Friday.

Speaker 1 But I had a fire fest in the stadium.

Speaker 1 Shit, your pants. No, I'll just say it because it's ridiculous.
Did you guys use the bathroom? I did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I went and took a shit because we went in there early and

Speaker 1 someone clogged the toilet. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 There was no plunger.

Speaker 1 So, um.

Speaker 1 Right where you got there?

Speaker 4 No, so

Speaker 1 spider. I don't want to say this.

Speaker 1 No, I'm a resourceful guy. Oh, my God.
I've been in this spot before. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 If you notice, the trash can next to the toilet had, you know, like when you're in a stadium or an airport and underneath the bag, there's like 17 bags.

Speaker 4 So they can just like bag it up and it's already there. You gloved up?

Speaker 1 I took one of the bags and I

Speaker 1 shit mitts.

Speaker 1 I plunged the toilet with my hand in a bag.

Speaker 5 You fisted your own shit.

Speaker 1 In a bag. Well,

Speaker 1 it wasn't the.

Speaker 1 No, you fisted your own shit.

Speaker 1 No, the shit didn't clog the toilet. It was the toilet paper after.
I got one good flush in. Okay.
And then it was the second flush, which always does me in because I never, dude, I'm in a stadium.

Speaker 1 You'd think stadium bathrooms would have good flush.

Speaker 5 We got to talk to you about toilet paper management.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I, I'm trying to think that's what it is. Yeah, big cat, you know what?

Speaker 5 You waste paper. You're a paper waster.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 5 Dude wipes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude wipes. Great.
Take 15. Go right now to dude wipes.
I wish. I actually need to start traveling with dude wipes because that is absolutely true.
So

Speaker 1 yeah, that was... But no one noticed because it was a shared bathroom between two suites that was in the hallway.

Speaker 1 So it would have been a disaster if someone had come back because I was gone for like 20 minutes.

Speaker 6 It would have gotten back to who it was.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Quickly.

Speaker 5 Wait, Big Cat, was that like.

Speaker 5 So, you remember when I spilled that drink right when we got in there? Yeah. And I was like, oh, somebody spilled a drink.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Probably the same person that spilled a drink in the van earlier.

Speaker 1 I don't know who it could have been.

Speaker 5 And then Big Cat immediately responded with like, yeah, ha ha ha. It's like whenever I go on the road and I'm like, haha, somebody clogged my toilet.

Speaker 5 And you acted like you were making a joke, but it was really.

Speaker 6 You said it was probably the same person that clogged the toilet.

Speaker 1 Hey, yeah. And you know what's the craziest part? I thought he was joking.

Speaker 1 Do you know what the craziest part is? Do you know what the craziest part is? That was before I clogged the toilet.

Speaker 1 Which makes it even worse because it's like I already, I know, I know myself so well that it's like you made a joke about clogging the toilet, then you went and fucking clogged the toilet, you fat piece of shit.

Speaker 1 I'm disgusting. 2022 is going to be my year.
Listen, I'm going to get in shape.

Speaker 5 I loved it in Buffalo. I had a great time.
The food was obviously amazing. Wing nuts was great.
I would not trade that for anything.

Speaker 5 I love those chicken wings, but I ate so much chicken that I got nightmares last night.

Speaker 1 Oh, I woke up with heartburn.

Speaker 5 Have you ever gotten nightmares from just eating food? That's where I was at last night with sodium and yeah.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I had a thought today when I was coming into work that I was like,

Speaker 1 I could be having a mini heart attack because I woke up with just

Speaker 1 raging heartburn. I was just like, this isn't, that was part of my 2022 is going to be my year where I get in shape.

Speaker 5 I had to shit so bad when I woke up this morning that I wanted to take a COVID test.

Speaker 1 I thought I had coronavirus because I had to. But I love balls.
I had to shit. It's the best.
It really is the best. The people are the best.
The team is not so good because they can't stop the run.

Speaker 1 They'll get it together.

Speaker 5 They'll get it together.

Speaker 1 I have to get it together. All right, let's do hot seat, cool throne, and then we will get to Kurt Warner and also Jersey Jerry.
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Speaker 6 uh my hot seat is the manning cast oh joe buck put them in a body bag yeah he did bait manning specifically our guy joe uh they were talking they asked joe buck they're like you know when a game's a blowout do you ever wish you had someone a guest on so you could you know kind of fill the conversation Because the game's such a blowout.

Speaker 6 And Joe Buck said, the last time I even thought about that was your Super Bowl game against the Seahawks when they got fucking boom roasted.

Speaker 5 Boom roasted. Almost like it was set up.

Speaker 1 Almost. Almost.
Almost.

Speaker 5 I don't think the Manning Cast would do that, though.

Speaker 1 Me neither.

Speaker 1 My cool throne, I don't know if we'll put this on the hot seat or wait.

Speaker 5 Eli's getting younger. Yes, have you noticed that?

Speaker 1 He's getting younger.

Speaker 5 Peyton looks like he's 70. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Eli, every time I see Mike, Whitey retire,

Speaker 5 Eli looks younger than Daniel Jones. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Is Miami on the hot seat or the cool throne? They're on the cool throne. Miami's on the cool throne.
They got everything figured out. They got Mario Cristobal.

Speaker 6 He's coming home. Kind of like hot seat for being a scumbag.

Speaker 1 University.

Speaker 1 I don't know about the Manny Diaz part. Are you talking about the health care part?

Speaker 6 The healthcare part and the Manny Diaz.

Speaker 1 The healthcare part is pretty crazy. It's pretty scummy.

Speaker 5 So they've never used any of their health care budget or any budget outside their athletic department until now to buy a head coach.

Speaker 5 And don't get me wrong, like Miami's used money from plenty of unscrupulous sources before. In fact, that's usually when they're at their best.
Right. When they dip in.

Speaker 5 Yeah, exactly. So I guess they made like $400 million in profit last year during the coronavirus.
So they're like, hey, let's kick some of that money in the football program.

Speaker 5 All I'm saying is, like, it's the you. What do you expect?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, if you. So cool throw them.
That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 I was debating whether or not they should be on the hot seat or cool throwing. I think they should be on the hot seat, but apparently no one cares.
Everyone's like, oh, this is good for them.

Speaker 1 If you ask Danny Boycan, is it cool if we use this COVID slush fund?

Speaker 1 He'd be like yeah let's do it because he's probably i mean he's what he didn't have covet what he had the swine flu no so he didn't no he did not i'm pretty sure he did no

Speaker 1 oh he got attacked by a bear that's no uh but yeah no mario cristobal is a great hire i did feel really bad for manny diaz because it was essentially an open secret for the last two weeks that mario crisobal was going to be the next coach but

Speaker 1 Miami was like, we don't want to be, we don't want to fire someone until he puts ink to paper. So instead, we'll just have Manny Diaz keep going out and recruiting.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, he won't be the coach, but he is right now because we don't actually have the contract. Hurukuck.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was bad. It was everybody knew that it was happening.
And Cristobal obviously has deep ties to Miami.

Speaker 5 But it's back to the situation of what do you expect if you're Manny Diaz, the way that you were brought there. Like, you left Temple after one day, right?

Speaker 1 Was he at Temple for a day? No, he was a Temple coach for a while, but he did leave Temple

Speaker 1 poorly afterwards.

Speaker 5 He left Temple very quickly to go to Miami. So, I don't know.

Speaker 5 That's just college football. That's just how it shakes out with college football.

Speaker 1 This is the new norm.

Speaker 5 Now, Nike is going to throw a bag at somebody. I don't know who it's going to be.
Chip Kelly, maybe? Back to Oregon?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he did leave Temple after like a day.

Speaker 5 It was like a day.

Speaker 1 It was like a George O'Leary. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was named on December 13th, 2018, and on December 30th, 2018, he was named Miami head coach.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because that's the job that he wanted.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, three weeks is a long time.

Speaker 5 And also, Manny Diaz probably got a buyout. He's probably doing okay right now.
So I'm not going to shed any tears for Manny Diaz. I just, I'm rooting for the U to be back because it's fun.

Speaker 5 And Miami is a good football team.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Absolutely.
They're definitely one of those programs you want them to be competitive.

Speaker 1 And I think Mario Cristobal, like, if you know anything about Mario Cristobal, he's a tremendous, tremendous recruiter. So he, you know, he had Oregon recruiting better than it's ever recruited.

Speaker 1 All he has to do is keep some guys in Miami, and they'll be back to, at least contending for ACC titles.

Speaker 1 Getting to the Alabama level, Ohio State, you know, that whole echelon is a lot longer of a haul. That's pretty much it.
I think Miami fans would take losing by 40 to Clemson in the ACC championship.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but now Vinnables is gone from Clemson. Yeah.
So now the ACC is wide open. The ACC runs through Wake Forest.

Speaker 1 There it is. Be careful.
Kenny Pickett go back one more year.

Speaker 5 Kenny Heisman. All right.

Speaker 1 Your hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat.
Oh, you had your

Speaker 1 one. Miami, your cool throne?

Speaker 5 Miami was kind of both. I guess it was.

Speaker 1 I had another one. What's your other one? That's fine.
Throw it out. No, no, no.
Same. Schrodinger's you.
Snow. Out of banks back for season three.
Oh. Okay, cool.

Speaker 5 I didn't finish season two. I watched season two.

Speaker 5 I didn't watch season two. The geography

Speaker 5 confused me quite a bit.

Speaker 1 I watched the first couple episodes of season two. I think I'll probably.
It's a summer show. And I think, did it come out in the fall?

Speaker 1 That was me trying to make an excuse that

Speaker 1 I was going to be able to do it. I think it was a summer show.
Yeah, so it's not, it's a, um, it's a July.

Speaker 1 It's a pandemic. Yeah, it's a pandemic.
It's a fisher house. Has anyone watched Tiger King, the new one?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 1 I'd love to interview not those, the Tiger King people, but anyone who's actually watched the new one.

Speaker 5 The second one, see if it tied up any loose ends. Yeah.
And we will be doing our succession recap on next Wednesday's next Wednesday's episode.

Speaker 1 Or Friday. I haven't watched it.
Yeah, we didn't watch, obviously.

Speaker 6 I'm like five episodes behind.

Speaker 1 You'll get there. The deal is almost done.

Speaker 1 All right. PFT, your hot seat.

Speaker 6 Like I'm five episodes, but I have no interest in really. I will catch up, but I'm probably just going to wait.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love doing that.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is Bob Baffert. Yeah.
Because Medina Spirit RIP was a good horse, was a very fast horse. Now all sorts of rumors are swirling around about Bob Baffert.

Speaker 5 What the percentages of performance enhancing drug that he may or may not have been using on Medina Spirit this time, but this is like his 10th 10th horse that's died recently.

Speaker 1 I think he's had a lot more than that. Like, maybe not recently, but

Speaker 1 I saw some things being said that Bob Bafford has had a lot of his horses die in the last 20 years.

Speaker 5 No, but it happened at the Santa Nida racetrack, right? That's where every horse dies. Yes.
Why would you let your horse race there? That's a good race. It's just bad luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's...

Speaker 5 It's like letting your football team play in Landover.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's actually, Soldier Field might take the kick.

Speaker 1 Did you see? It's basically a constant arms race. Which field can be worse, Landover or Soldier Field?

Speaker 1 There was a clip of the ground screw just throwing sand onto the field on Sunday against the Cardinals.

Speaker 5 And Heinz Field is in that conversation, too.

Speaker 5 That's the best, that time of year where they just dump, sometimes just kitty litter on the field, and then they spray paint it green. Yes,

Speaker 1 he just wasn't even trying to hide it. Yeah.
It's like, yeah, throw some sand on it.

Speaker 5 But Medina Spirit, R.I.P. I liked Medina Spirit.

Speaker 1 Didn't we determine?

Speaker 5 We apologized. We had Medina Spirit on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Yes, we did. With Randy Moss.

Speaker 5 Moss. Yes, we did.
Yes. And so that horse got a bad rap.
Hopefully in death, its name can be cleared. I know it kind of wasn't in life.

Speaker 5 A lot of people held on to those false allegations that we proved to be false. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Someone write in Medina's Spirit on your MLB Hall of Fame ballot. It's a good idea.
While also keeping off Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds and David Ortiz and May Rodge.

Speaker 5 Are you saying maybe it'll become a baseball?

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All good horses do. That's right.
All right, your cool throne.

Speaker 5 My cool throne is fullbacks. Yes.
Fullbacks are on the cool throne. Not just for what the Patriots did last night.
That was a great fullback game. It was.

Speaker 5 Some of those trap blocks, some of the kickouts from the fullback, outstanding. But we're announcing the finalists for the lowman trophy on Friday.

Speaker 5 We've assembled a bigger committee this year than we ever have in the past,

Speaker 5 led by new addition Patrick Ricard

Speaker 5 from the Ravens. He's now on the committee, as Billy calls him, the Kool-Aid man.
I told him that Billy respects you more than any other football player just due to your mass. Love it.

Speaker 5 And he's a fan of yours, Billy.

Speaker 1 I love that regard.

Speaker 5 I just made that last part up, but I'm sure he likes you.

Speaker 1 She definitely likes you.

Speaker 5 She definitely likes you. We've got the finalists ready to go.
We're going to drop a video on Friday.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 Presenting to you the finalists for the Low Man Trophy for the nation's best collegiate fullback. And then at the Barstool Arizona Bowl,

Speaker 5 last week of December, we will be making the announcement. We will do the trophy ceremony.
We'll do a live stream down there. It'll be great.

Speaker 5 So the low man trophy, most important important trophy in sports, is officially back. And the ballots, the official ballots, will be going out at the end of the week to all our voters.

Speaker 1 I love it. I'm very excited for it, especially make sure you check out Army Navy because that is the fullback game.
Fullbacks, it's America's game, but it's also the fullbacks game. It is.

Speaker 1 All right, my hot seat is Horny Dudes Online. Fuck.
Nope, you're okay. You're in the clear PFT on this one.

Speaker 1 Jared Goff's girlfriend, there was a video, she was doing an SI swimsuit

Speaker 1 shoot when the Lions won. And I saw Rappaport and Trey Wingo just being like.
Did you see who likes Rappaport's tweet?

Speaker 5 No, no, Trey's. It was Trey Wingo's tweet.
Who did?

Speaker 1 Guess.

Speaker 1 Ravel? Nope. Nope.
Oh.

Speaker 5 Somebody who should not be liking this tweet.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 5 Somebody who needs to steer closer to the light and farther away from temptation.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 8 You're always alone on Twitter.

Speaker 5 What? Dan Orlofsky.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, Dan. Dan, Dan.

Speaker 5 We need to have an intervention, Dan.

Speaker 1 Damn, damn.

Speaker 5 We need to pry your phone away from your warm, sticky fingers.

Speaker 1 Damn, damn, Daniel, back at it again, watching clothed women boobs online. Yeah, no, it was very funny, though, because it was just, it's just a great test.

Speaker 1 It's essentially like the end of a golf tournament. Like, who can just, who can hold themselves back from saying boobs in football? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, this is sweet. Yeah.
It's literally just a, whoa, those are tits

Speaker 5 yeah comment well you could make that argument but you could also say like maybe the people accusing Ian Rappaport of being horny online are actually the horny ones true because maybe Ian was just like this is a cool moment seeing Jared's girlfriend watch the Lions win a game yeah no Trey was very horny Trey's horny he was admitted horny and admittedly horny and Dan was very horny

Speaker 1 yes yes

Speaker 1 but yeah boobs and football

Speaker 1 and then Cool Trone is us boys we've done it again I don't know how many years in a row but the big Lead has given us the award of Podcast of the Year. Sports Podcast of the Year.

Speaker 5 On our 500th episode, no less.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Incredible.
So thank you to the big lead for giving that to us.

Speaker 1 One second, Jerry. Yeah.
Thank you to the big lead for giving to that.

Speaker 1 We're not going to win next year.

Speaker 1 Thank you to the big lead for giving us that award. We take it very seriously.

Speaker 5 As you can probably tell from the start of today's show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we appreciate it. We appreciate it.
So the big lead, shout out. We got Podcast of the Year Award.

Speaker 5 We don't really like to take that much time to reflect on any of these awards because, for the most part, they're just, you know, like we said about the iHeart thing, just a contest to see who will go to the award ceremony.

Speaker 5 Correct. And they're pretty much for phonies.
But for this one, I feel like we should make one exception here where we can just take this to say, fuck you to all the haters and suck my dick. Yes.

Speaker 1 It is funny to give us the Sports Podcast of the Year award when the show, the first 10 minutes of the show, is debating whether wind exists.

Speaker 2 That's our sports analysis.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but nobody else is dumb enough to pull that off.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy, your hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice Matt and Twinsies today, boys. You guys plan this?

Speaker 8 The merch is just so great.

Speaker 5 It's a Carstool sports store.

Speaker 9 Plenty of hoodies on sale.

Speaker 1 But I don't think we have those anymore because those sold out. We actually don't have those.

Speaker 1 But Twinsies.

Speaker 5 Great merch.

Speaker 1 You're just flexing on our listeners right now.

Speaker 5 Sorry.

Speaker 8 Hot seat diamonds. Turns out there's a bunch of new diamonds that are fake, but no one can tell the difference between those diamonds and the new diamonds.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 8 Coming out of China, De Beers is totally

Speaker 8 panicking because now diamonds have no value. So hot seat diamonds.

Speaker 1 I love this.

Speaker 8 You know what's also certifiable?

Speaker 1 What? Pressure. NFTs.

Speaker 1 Big cats tits.

Speaker 8 Now NFTs are kind of more valuable than diamonds.

Speaker 1 Think about it.

Speaker 1 Did you see RG3? He was calling, I think he was calling the Big. No, he wasn't called the Big 12 Championship.
It was the ACC Championship. His keys to the game was no pressure, no diamonds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I own that. But he reversed it because he was like not talking about the pressure of the game.
He was saying, if you don't get pressure on the quarterback, you don't get a ring.

Speaker 1 That's his ACC champ. That's why he was a great Hesse Hang.

Speaker 5 I've seen a lot of takes about RG3 and his performance in the booth online, and nobody, nobody thinks he's just okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Everybody either wants to shoot a bazooka up at the press box and explode him, or they just want to bring him down onto the field and put him in the Hall of Fame right now for broadcasting.

Speaker 5 So I don't know what to think about RG3.

Speaker 4 I think that's good.

Speaker 5 Except RG3, please come on the podcast. Yeah.
We'd like to have you on the show. I know we've flirted around it a little bit.
Come on the podcast to discuss RG3. Yes.

Speaker 8 My cool turn is Tyron Woodley. Yeah.
Tommy Fury cracked his rib. He's out of the Jake Paul fight.
Tyron Woodley stepping in to get his second crack at Jake Paul.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like what you did there. Yeah.
Cracking a crack. Tommy Fury also just realized that he's not a good boxer.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So He saw that Jake Paul's record wasn't 0-40.

Speaker 1 He was like, I don't know. This is usually.

Speaker 5 Usually I fight a hobo that they just drag in and handcuffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tommy Fury was like, wait, I struggled with Jake Paul's sparring partner who is 5'8, and now I'm going to fight Jake Paul. Maybe I shouldn't do this.

Speaker 8 I wonder who cracked his rib in sparring.

Speaker 1 That's a good question. Yeah, that is a good question.
Yeah, he probably got beat up by his sparring partner, and he's like, I can't fight.

Speaker 5 He probably just got into a fight at a bar and got his ass kicked. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake, your hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is pasta.

Speaker 9 A truck carrying $20,000 worth of Noki was stolen in Australia.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 9 I even know they can carry that much money's worth of pasta.

Speaker 1 Wait, how much? $20K. That's not a lot.

Speaker 5 That's like the Lufthansa heist, basically.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's not a lot of pasta, you think? It seems like a lot. $20,000.
Noki is pretty on the higher end of pasta. That's fair.

Speaker 5 Is it fresh or frozen?

Speaker 1 Makes a difference.

Speaker 1 Fresh. It's freshly made.
Fresh pasta. Yeah.
That's fine.

Speaker 5 It's not that much. It's much pasta then if it's fresh.

Speaker 1 That's good shit.

Speaker 9 My cool throne are memes growing up. We saw this viral kid from the Popeyes.

Speaker 9 I think it was Popeyes. He was holding the cup, looking freaked out.
Now he's a high school champ.

Speaker 1 Hank is.

Speaker 1 He doesn't believe him. Hank's woke on the internet.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's him. That was hurtful.
I never said that. That was hurtful what you did about the memes growing up part.

Speaker 1 Because, I mean, PFT and I were like 28 when that meme dropped, but I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're speaking to the younger audience.

Speaker 5 We at one time existed in a world that had zero memes.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 5 We were pre-memes.

Speaker 1 Blows your mind. But yeah, that was crazy.
That was

Speaker 1 it. Wild? It was pretty cool.
It was pretty wild. It was pretty wild.
Are we sure? Because

Speaker 1 he's young in the meme. And he's old.
Yeah, wild. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Are we trying to verify his identity?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 Hank just.

Speaker 1 I never sees this. Hank sees any cool story online.
He's like, fake.

Speaker 6 I never said that.

Speaker 5 It's good to be. He's skeptical.

Speaker 8 He's been replying to a bunch of the places I've been posting. I'm saying, yeah, no, it's actually me.
It's actually, speaking of high school football, the game this guy won

Speaker 1 was actually well, he won the high school football.

Speaker 8 But this game, this East Orange, New York, New Jersey state championship game, was insane.

Speaker 8 They were in overtime, and the quarterback did a QB sneak, fumbled, and they returned it 99 yards, like 100 yards for the state championship.

Speaker 6 High school football, shout out to Situa Mass.

Speaker 1 High school state champion. That was an awesome segue.

Speaker 1 That is an insane, like a 99-yard scooping score is crazy.

Speaker 8 And overtime to win the game. It was insane.

Speaker 5 Speaking of high school football, Herndon actually didn't play against T.C. Williams in the second game like they had.
And remember the Titans? I think it was the first game.

Speaker 5 So it's like they didn't have any film. So it makes them look really bad.
Hollywood fucked that one up for the record.

Speaker 1 Fuck Hollywood.

Speaker 5 Bunch of fucking. Fuck us.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to Kurt Warner. Good hot seat, cool throwing from everyone.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest. We've had him on before.

Speaker 1 Great time. It is Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champ, Kurt Warner.
He has his new movie out. It is out on Christmas Day.

Speaker 4 Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 Christmas Day. It is the Kurt Warner biopic.
I always screw it up and whether it's biopic. Do people call it biopic?

Speaker 5 I do that because it looks like myopic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's a biopic. It is called American Underdog.
It is the Kurt Warner story.

Speaker 5 Go check it out.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about the movie, but we got to start with the bone to pick.

Speaker 4 All right, let's go.

Speaker 1 So let's get right into it. All right.
So we were at the game last night. You were at the game.
You're calling it with Kevin Harlan, who we love.

Speaker 1 I've caught a couple of Monday night broadcasts in my car. You guys do a great job.
But before the game, you tweeted out, yeah, yeah, it's football weather, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 No one enjoys playing in this, and and no one can play their best football in conditions like this. But what do I know? I'm a dome guy.
I'll be here for all the windy action with Kevin Harlan.

Speaker 1 We had this debate on the show because we think that

Speaker 1 nights like last night are memorable in how weird and different and cool they are.

Speaker 1 And that game was so bizarre and Bill Belichick, what he did, was so different and unique that we will always remember that. Why would you want to get rid of that?

Speaker 4 It's memorable for who?

Speaker 1 For For the fans. We were asking for the family.
For the fans, right, for the fans.

Speaker 4 And again, I love the fans, and part of what we do is for the fans.

Speaker 4 But why I would want to get rid of it is because when I have the Patriots against the Bills, and this is for number one in the division, this is for seeding in the playoffs, I want to see the best version of the Bills against the best version of the Patriots, and I want the best team to win, not the best team in those conditions, and I get it.

Speaker 4 It's what everybody says. It's football weather.
This is what it is. But here's the problem that I have and it doesn't necessarily apply to these two teams.

Speaker 4 But being a guy that played in a dome, being a guy that played in Arizona, I have no way to get ready for those conditions.

Speaker 4 And so you can say all you want about home field advantage and that's why you play. Well, no, because the Patriots can come to Arizona.

Speaker 4 And there's no difference other than we have our fans, obviously, but they can play in my weather. I can't play in their weather because I can't get used to it.

Speaker 4 There's nothing you can do to get used to cold weather in a situation. So to me, I'm just like, I want the best.
I want to be able to be my best. I want to play against their best.

Speaker 4 And I want the best to advance. And so for me, last night, I mean,

Speaker 4 I played in that weather before. I grew up in Iowa, so I played in all that stuff.
You know, and it's just like Bass kicking that ball. I'm sure when he kicked it, he's like, oh, that's money.

Speaker 4 That's right down the middle. No, shoot.
All of a sudden the wind takes and it goes to the left.

Speaker 4 And you say to yourself, what was he supposed to do there i mean it's easy to say well aim a little bit further because you know the wind's going to pick and i just i don't want that stuff to dictate who wins these games and who ultimately you know creates history and wins championships i don't want that to be the case and it might be memorable to you guys it's not memorable to me if i'm mac jones yes i won the game but I got to throw three passes.

Speaker 4 If they lost that game and Mac Jones got to throw three passes, what's he saying today? Like, that sucked.

Speaker 4 I didn't even get a chance to, you know, to do anything in this game to dictate the outcome of this game because the weather was so awful.

Speaker 4 So that's my take because I just, you know, especially like you get to the playoffs, I just want to see the best team advance in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 And to me, the best team is the team that has the opportunity to play their best football.

Speaker 1 Okay, so counterpoint. Okay.

Speaker 1 Sports are supposed to be random. Sports are supposed to be fun.
Sports are supposed to have things that teams have to overcome at different times to climb that mountain.

Speaker 1 I think weather adds that element where it's like we were talking about it, like baseball, all the fields aren't even the same. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 There's some quirks to the game where you have to change how you're going to adapt. So the best team can adapt to every situation at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 But you played on turf. A team going

Speaker 1 from cold weather to the turf, you know, your team's built on speed because you get to play always on the turf. So they might not be as adaptable.

Speaker 4 They might not be built for speed, but they can still play in that environment and it's an easy transition.

Speaker 4 If I take a cold weather team and I put them indoors,

Speaker 4 I mean, what do they have to get used to?

Speaker 1 Like, what's maybe they put on a little weight because it's cold. What game hurt you? What game? I know there's a specific game that brought about this take.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, the game was against

Speaker 4 New England.

Speaker 4 When we were an Arizona team and we came out here to play New England, and it was snowing, and it was a wet snow.

Speaker 4 And so like after the game, you know, you hear about New England and they're like, oh yeah, we put Vaseline on the bottom of our cleats. We're like, what? What does that mean?

Speaker 5 You sound like you're patriots.

Speaker 4 You put Vaseline. No, I don't think it's illegal, but it melts the snow.
And so all of us have this packed wet snow on our cleats and we're slipping all over the place.

Speaker 4 And they're like, hey, we put Vaseline on the bottom of our shoes. And so my point being is that there is a mental

Speaker 4 component to playing the game. And there is something to what you're saying is that, oh yeah, you know, we both got to show up in that game and we've got to play football.

Speaker 4 And I get that because I grew up playing in all kinds of conditions. But the bottom line is, how do I do that when I play in Arizona?

Speaker 4 How do I get acclimated for that junk when I'm in Arizona and I get to fly out on a Saturday and I got to play on a Sunday? There's just no way for me to do that.

Speaker 5 The variety is what makes it beautiful, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like I like the variety. You say so.
What's your favorite meal?

Speaker 4 Pizza.

Speaker 5 Would you want to eat pizza for every single meal?

Speaker 4 Over anything else? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, but I mean every single meal that you have.

Speaker 4 Would I want to? No, not if I have choices. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So it's a variety is a spice of life.

Speaker 5 That's what makes sports interesting.

Speaker 4 Would I rather play in a dome in every game that I play than anywhere else?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're not saying dome football is. I'll take back football.
I like

Speaker 1 it. By the way, just some context here, because I just went and looked it up.

Speaker 1 The Patriots won 47 to 7.

Speaker 4 47.

Speaker 1 Kurt Warner was 6 for 18 for 30 yards.

Speaker 5 That sounds like a pretty good drink special.

Speaker 1 specialty. I understand

Speaker 1 where the genesis of this take is.

Speaker 1 It makes sense.

Speaker 4 The genesis of the take. And so you hear all

Speaker 4 you hear all kinds of stories.

Speaker 4 But so we get off the bus, and I heard stories from our coaches up in the box that as they went up to the box and we went out onto the field, that all of a sudden there was like an eruption, a cheer from the Patriots, like coaching staff or box or whatever's up there.

Speaker 4 And come to find out later that all they did was look down at us, and our whole team was over by the heater, you know, before the game as we're getting warmed up and they're cheering like, we got this thing.

Speaker 4 These guys have no chance. But it's such a real thing is that the mental

Speaker 4 component to going from a warm weather place to a cold weather place and having to deal with the cold weather, having to deal with the elements and not knowing how to do that is a real thing.

Speaker 4 Again, I get it. If you're a Buffalo or a New England, you're saying, yeah, we want that because you get to practice in it every day.

Speaker 4 You get to work on those things every day. I can't help it that I got drafted or signed by Arizona.
So I have no chance in that setting. And so, you know, you look at the NFC and you got the Packers.

Speaker 4 Packers are probably just,

Speaker 4 we need homefield advantage. We need homefield advantage.
All these teams are going to be messed up when they come here. I can go to the Dome in Arizona.
I can go to Tampa and we can play.

Speaker 4 So we don't deal with as much of a disadvantage as they do having to come to our place because we're accustomed to it.

Speaker 5 Isn't it kind of beautiful, though, in professional sports that certain teams were beautiful? It is beautiful.

Speaker 1 Did you see the picture I sent last night? I was there.

Speaker 1 We were there. I was at the game.
That was

Speaker 1 at the game.

Speaker 1 We were also in a suite.

Speaker 5 It was gorgeous.

Speaker 5 I was wearing a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 It was actually so hot in the suite, we had to open up the windows.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 5 But there's something great, though, about in professional sports that certain teams take on the identity of the city in which they're located.

Speaker 5 Different parts of the United States have different things that make them unique and make them different and make them interesting.

Speaker 5 And so in Buffalo, I love seeing the people that are wearing like the parkas or the one guy that's like shirtless out there, you know, wearing the Zubaz pants.

Speaker 5 I love seeing in Green Bay when they've got half the stadium wearing hunting camouflage with the dots of orange that you see everywhere. I like that stuff.
I like when you go down to Miami.

Speaker 5 Everybody is, you know, they look like they're in Miami, Florida, you know? So I like the variety that it gives you. I think it's a good thing for professional sports.

Speaker 5 I can understand from your perspective as a quarterback. You're probably actually the last person that, you know what? I've actually changed my mind talking to you.

Speaker 5 I think that for you, you have the exact correct take. As a quarterback that loved to throw the ball, I can understand why you would not like that sort of weather.
But as fans,

Speaker 1 six for 18 for 18 yards.

Speaker 4 That goes a long way in my experience.

Speaker 1 You want to lay down on the couch. We can really dig into this experience.

Speaker 4 Again, I think the bottom line is, have you ever thrown a ball that slips out of your hands? Yeah. Just Just slips.
And you say to yourself, what? There's nothing I could do about that.

Speaker 4 Like, it slipped out of my hands, right? If you've ever kicked a field goal and you go, that's going right down the middle and the wind blows it to the right.

Speaker 4 Or you throw a pass and you're like, oh, that's money. And all of a sudden the wind takes it and you miss.
You have situations like that and you go.

Speaker 4 What am I supposed to do there? I threw it. I kicked it, right? I did exactly what I've been doing my whole life and it didn't work out for me.

Speaker 4 So now I'm going home, and you're advancing in the playoffs because the ball slipped out of my hands.

Speaker 4 That's the kind of stuff to me that I don't ever want that to dictate a game because you can say what you want. There was nothing I could do about a ball slipping out of my hands.

Speaker 4 I mean, we've all seen it. Baker a couple weeks ago, ball slips out of his hands.
Seen Eli do it a million times.

Speaker 4 Kyler Murray did it last week in Chicago, goes to throw it, ball slips out of their hands. I just don't want that to dictate whether I advance in the playoffs or not.

Speaker 4 And other people, I got buddies that are like, that's football weather. That's how it should be.

Speaker 4 I just, I'd rather not.

Speaker 1 I think it's partially too that football has advanced to a point where it's obviously a passing league.

Speaker 1 So there's something that's fun about a team that can impose their will and run the football down another team's throat. And like those teams, in a weird way, have become the fun outliers.

Speaker 1 Like when San Francisco's rolling, it's fun to watch them play because it's different than the rest of the league.

Speaker 4 And I don't have a problem with that. I mean, you're right.
I enjoy that.

Speaker 4 It's not that I don't enjoy good defensive football or I don't enjoy a team that can run the football because I still believe games are won in the trenches as much as I like to throw it and as much as we like to see these high-flying numbers.

Speaker 4 I appreciate good football no matter what it looks like. My whole take is just I don't want the weather to dictate a play or something that ends up dictating history because you can't control it.

Speaker 4 I'm with you. You know, you can look at the punt last night night with Nikhil Harry, and I can easily say to myself, just get away from the football.
Like, that was a mistake that you made.

Speaker 4 I'm not blaming the wind for you trying to even catch that thing when the wind's going nuts, but a ball slipping out of your hands or the kick that just gets blown, you know, because you watch the kick.

Speaker 4 It was going through. I mean, if there's no wind or a little less wind, that ball's going through.
And then all of a sudden it takes a right turn.

Speaker 1 That was awesome.

Speaker 4 And you're saying it's awesome.

Speaker 1 You like that.

Speaker 4 And that kicker's going in going, Coach, I just lost the game first. I get it.
They should be.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 I don't know what I should have done.

Speaker 5 He was missing that kicker the exact same way in pregames in the warm-ups.

Speaker 4 Actually, he was making more than Folk was making on that end. But anyways.

Speaker 5 I saw a really nasty one that really hit the wind.

Speaker 5 You can aim a little bit further because you're right. He hit it right down the middle and it blew out to the side.
It sucks because you are trained as a kicker.

Speaker 5 The middle never changes. That's what Morton Anderson taught me.
Middle never changes. Aim for the middle always.
You don't want to ever aim for a post because that throws you all off.

Speaker 5 You're not used to it. But I think the difference between us and you and we can leave it at this.
We can agree to disagree. Is that you like good football.
We like weird football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I like good football.
And I don't like it. I like the weirder, the better.

Speaker 4 And I actually don't mind weird football. Just when it really matters to me is what I worry about more than anything.
Like, I can live with last night in the regular season.

Speaker 4 I don't want to see that in the playoffs. I mean, and again, last year, Bills, Ravens, in the playoffs.
I believe the weather dictated that game.

Speaker 4 I still think the Bills were the better team, should have won the game, but I just want to make sure that come playoff time and who's going to the Super Bowl and who's advancing and who's writing history is not done because of some fluke thing that happened with weather or wind or rain.

Speaker 4 I just want it to be the best team.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you obviously watched the whole league. You call the games on Monday night.
You're watching all the quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Can you give us a quarterback that you have been surprised by this year, and then a quarterback that maybe you're a little disappointed in?

Speaker 1 That's something we don't see because we're idiots and we just watch the ball. Hmm.

Speaker 4 Quarterback that I'm surprised by. I mean...

Speaker 1 Who's playing like, hey, this guy's playing way better than people realize.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, the first guy that jumps to mind is just Mac Jones. Yeah.
Just because of him being a rookie and just what they're doing now.

Speaker 4 And again, I understand, understand, you know, last night he throw three passes, so I know he gets credit for, you know, seven straight wins, but he's playing really good

Speaker 4 in this run.

Speaker 4 And, you know, and if I compare him, I'm just not just saying, oh, he's a rookie and he's playing really good. He's playing really good football.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I always look at the quarterback position, you know, some people look at it athletically. Some people look at how many plays you make.
I look at it mentally.

Speaker 4 And I say, does he know what he's looking at? Does he know how to make different throws? Does he get his eyes in the right place at the right time?

Speaker 4 And he's doing that as well as just about anybody in the league. And that impresses me.
And he's also a young guy. And he's also got his team as the number one seed after starting two and four.

Speaker 4 I mean, there's so many different things. So that's the guy that probably jumps out more than anybody, you know, when I'm kind of thinking about the league.
Who else, you know, like Kyler?

Speaker 4 Kyler's playing great. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 4 But you kind of saw this coming. It was every year has been a little bit better.
So he's a guy that I would say, you know, he's playing really, really well.

Speaker 4 But, you know, it's not a big surprise to me. And so I'm probably going to say Mac when I think about the playoff teams and who, you know, I would have said, if you'd give me all those teams,

Speaker 4 who would you say is probably at the bottom? I would have probably said Mac Jones, and I don't think he's at the bottom. He's playing really well.

Speaker 4 From the other side of things, man, I think you could pull a lot of guys out. There are, yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, I mean, Baker, you know, I was hoping he was going to take that step, and he's still wildly inconsistent. Kirk Cousins, another guy, you're just like, come on, man.

Speaker 4 Like at some point, we've got to turn this corner and

Speaker 4 we've got to get there and take that next step. Jimmy Garoppolo, another guy that it's just like, I so much want these guys to turn that corner and become that guy.

Speaker 4 And then every year, it's kind of the same thing with those guys.

Speaker 4 And, you know, it gets to the point where you're like, okay, that's kind of, that's got to be what they are more than I can keep hoping for them to change.

Speaker 4 So those are a few guys on teams that I thought

Speaker 4 were going to make that push. And I know everybody's still alive, but I just don't have a lot of hope for those teams because their quarterbacks are so up and down.

Speaker 5 You got to grade Kirk Cousins on a curve, too, because I think

Speaker 5 if he was getting paid $10, $15 million a year, he's playing pretty well for that contract, right?

Speaker 5 But because he takes up so much of the salary cap, limits what else you can do with all that money, then you're like, well, I'd like him to be able to make some throws that aren't perfectly there for him.

Speaker 5 I'd like him to be able to take some chances and win some games for us. And Kirk just, he's never going to be that guy, I don't think.

Speaker 5 I think the body of work that we have on him, and we get a lot of crap from Vikings fans, but we've been very right on Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 5 I watched him as a Washington football team fan for years, and this is what you see is what you get with Kirk. It's not going to change.

Speaker 4 And you make a great point because Washington saw it. Right? I mean, they paid him a lot of money, and they gave him the franchise tag a couple times, but ultimately they said,

Speaker 4 we think we know what Kirk Cousins is. And that's not a a bad quarter.

Speaker 4 I mean, I watch Kirk play, and I say to myself, and what frustrates me so much is that he makes throws that there's only a handful of guys in this league that can make.

Speaker 4 And he'll make them consistently. So you know he's talented, but then he can never just flip that switch and get his team over the top.

Speaker 4 And I think Washington just said, hey, we're not in for the playoffs. We're in for wanting to win championships.
And that means we might have to go another decade without finding that guy.

Speaker 4 But Kirk's not that guy. And so we're going to go a different direction.
And that's the question. You know, I've been talking to a whole bunch of people about Baker.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's going to be the question on Baker is that he may not be that guy. I mean, and let's be honest, right? How many guys are there like that?

Speaker 4 How many guys that you can build around with your right, with their right arm?

Speaker 8 There's five, there's six, maybe

Speaker 1 two. Tua.

Speaker 1 Left arm, right? Tuna.

Speaker 5 He's been crimson-pilled. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But you know what I'm saying? And there's only a handful of those guys. So then your next decision is: are we okay with a playoff guy?

Speaker 4 Are we okay with a guy that's better than what we've had, but we're going to settle for a team that probably won't ever win a championship while they're with us?

Speaker 4 And unless they change or unless the team is perfect around them. And again, it's not a bad problem to have because these guys are good.

Speaker 4 They're one of 32 talking about the best quarterbacks in the world.

Speaker 4 But they're not Aaron Rodgers and they're not Patrick Mahomes and they're not Kyler Murray or Russell Wilton. They're not those guys.
And so it's a tough place to be, but most teams are there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so my simplistic view of the NFL is always, I'd actually argue there's less than six guys, because the way I always view it is there are, I'll actually say, three guys right now,

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady,

Speaker 1 that can elevate a team and make up for a team's deficiencies.

Speaker 1 And then everyone else, to varying degrees,

Speaker 1 needs their team, like things to be right.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins is the guy I always would say is like, everything's got to be perfect around him. The offensive line's got to be good.
They got to be able to run the ball. Like you see it with Jimmy G.

Speaker 1 When the running game doesn't work, the passing game falls off.

Speaker 1 So it's like that next group of guys that if everything else on the roster is good, you could get to a Super Bowl, but it's got to be great.

Speaker 1 And so the big question is like, can you find that guy and then pay him less? And I don't know if that's the answer.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's like, if anyone has been able to figure it out, like, we have a guy who is good, not great, and we can go to him and be like, you're good, not great.

Speaker 1 You get 20 million, not 40, and we'll get you a good defense and offensive.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what I've been talking about all week. We can't slot guys anymore.
Right. You know, it's not good enough that I say, hey, Baker, you're 11th in the league.

Speaker 4 You're 11th best quarterback in the world, in our opinion. So that means we're going to pay you $22 million a year.

Speaker 4 And he's like, what are you talking about? I'm better than 20 other guys. So let me go in the free agency and I'll get 40 million a year

Speaker 4 because I'm the next guy up.

Speaker 4 And you're right.

Speaker 4 It's kind of messed up our league, I think, because it affects the ability to, you know, and I was talking to some different reporters and I was saying, let's say a championship team has to get to the number 20, right?

Speaker 4 So now you've got to figure out that 20. And if your quarterback's a seven

Speaker 4 and you got to get 13 more somehow with your team, can you pay him $40 million a year? Because he's a seven. He's a 13, I can pay him 40 million because now I only need to get seven more points.

Speaker 4 You know, whatever that, you know, however you play that out, but that becomes the whole dilemma is that these teams get handcuffed paying a quarterback that's probably not that guy to carry them.

Speaker 4 And then they're stuck never becoming a championship team because they can't find that ratio. Yeah.

Speaker 5 One college quarterback that we had on the show a couple weeks ago takes after your own heart, Kenny Pickett. So he's a two-glove guy.

Speaker 4 I like it. Have you had a club?

Speaker 5 Did you guys talk to him?

Speaker 4 I have not.

Speaker 5 Because he listens to this show.

Speaker 4 Does he? Yeah, I actually reached out to his coach because I have a little relationship there and passed my number on. So, Kenny, if you're listening,

Speaker 4 anyone who's not available, coach has my number, so he can reach out anytime.

Speaker 5 You have any advice for him, just like have you seen him play?

Speaker 1 Only a little bit.

Speaker 4 That's the one thing is I'm so NFL-driven that I don't watch a lot of college football and college quarterbacks until we get ready for the draft and I get a chance to really break them down.

Speaker 4 I got a son that plays in college, so if I'm watching college football, I'm watching him.

Speaker 4 But the NFL takes up most of my time, so I can't can't sit here and say, you know, I'll watch the SEG championship games, so see Bryce.

Speaker 4 It's incredible. Yeah, I mean, great.
And so you get a chance to peek at a little of that, but not break it down to the point where I really know how good these guys can be. So

Speaker 1 another big storyline from this season, I'd love to hear your take on it from the quarterback perspective. You called one of their games a couple weeks ago, the LA Rams.

Speaker 1 Everyone's talking about it because going into the season, it was like they're going all in. Stafford, McVay, watch them together.
Is this a Stafford problem? He is what he is?

Speaker 1 Or the conversation that's been had, and I've seen it recently, is that McVay kind of gets figured out as the season goes along and his teams fade a little bit because he doesn't really change his play calling or he doesn't do the things that have made him good at times?

Speaker 4 Well, first of all, they're not playing this year the way they've played in the past. And so that's kind of the first thing.

Speaker 4 We did something on our show on Game Day Morning the other day, you know, just off of the Denny Green rant. You know, are they who you thought they were kind of thing with the Rams.

Speaker 4 And when they went and got Matthew Stafford, kind of my mindset was, oh, man, keep running the football.

Speaker 4 Keep doing the play action because that's what makes Sean McVay so good is that system and the guys they have and the deception that they run with.

Speaker 4 And then you add Matthew Stafford to that mix in that system because he's better than Jared Goff. And if you have to get into a dropback game, he's better than Jared Goff in that that form.

Speaker 4 So now you've got this huge upgrade. Instead, I've seen the Rams go, oh, we got Matthew Stafford.
We don't need to do what we did in previous years that got us to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Let's spread it out and let Matthew Stafford lead us that way.

Speaker 4 Then I think you're going, oh, is it a Matthew Stafford prop? Is it right? And again, Matthew Stafford is a really, really good quarterback that's done a lot of really good things.

Speaker 4 As I think about it, you go, but he's been on a team where he's asked to do everything. You know, his mentality has been, Matthew, you got to make every throw for us.
You got to make every throw.

Speaker 4 So if you have that mentality for 10 years, and even if they put you on another good team, how hard is it to break that mentality? Yeah. You know, like

Speaker 4 you go in and you go, oh, well, I've made that throw and I've been asked to make that throw and I know I can make that throw.

Speaker 4 So how do you talk yourself out of that when you've been doing it for a decade?

Speaker 4 And so what I see with Matthew Stafford is he does a lot of really good things, but there's times where he tries to do too much. And when he tries to do too much, it's worked against them.

Speaker 4 And they're asking him to do too much. They're not playing the system that they've played in the past where the quarterback has benefited from the system.
They're not doing as much of that.

Speaker 4 And so they're asking Matthew Stafford to do more. And then you can point at their defense, too.
I mean, like, did you guys think their defense would be playing like this when they got all these...

Speaker 4 Pro Bowl players on, you know, you expected their defense to be better also. Yes.

Speaker 4 But that's what I see on offense is that I think it's a little bit of Matthew Stafford is that he's going to have to figure out in key moments, can he make the right plays and not the wrong plays?

Speaker 4 He hasn't done that enough in his career.

Speaker 4 And do they decide to continue to play this way or do they get back to what made Sean McVay so good and that was scheming things open as opposed to just being better than other teams.

Speaker 5 I want to talk to you about your movie because we got to make sure to get some information in on that.

Speaker 5 I'm actually very interested to know how it was made and the whole behind the scenes stuff and how this came to be uh it's coming out christmas day right american underdogs sometimes that's actually a good day for a movie like this to come out because i remember one time i went with my family on christmas day to go see wolf of wall street and that's not a good movie to go see with your family

Speaker 4 in the theaters this is a perfect movie to go see with your family right yeah i think it's gonna be a great movie from that standpoint is that it's gonna it's gonna reach a lot of different people football fans non-football fans and obviously something that uh will have all the elements that you can take your family and you're not gonna worry about some of those elements that Wolf of Walker.

Speaker 1 Great movie, though.

Speaker 5 So American Underdog, go check it out. So did they approach you or did you march into Hollywood and you're like, I've got a script.
I wouldn't believe it. Because I was told

Speaker 5 when you were playing, Kurt, I was told by numerous announcers that Hollywood would kick you out of town if you brought your story.

Speaker 4 They'd kicked me out. Why? Because it was

Speaker 1 unbelievable. They wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 No, they obviously came to me.

Speaker 4 You know, we had a number of people once I retired. So a lot of of people when I was playing, you know, oh, gosh, your story's made for the big screen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, okay. You know, you hear that and you're like, oh, that's nice.
And obviously I understand why.

Speaker 4 But once I retired, yeah, there was a number of companies that just reached out and said, hey, we'd love to talk to you and sell you on.

Speaker 4 why we'd like to make this movie and how we would like to make this movie. So we had those meetings really right after I retired.
So about a decade ago.

Speaker 4 And so we've been working through it since that time. We've had a number of different writers, some different production houses that, you know, that have had the rights to it.

Speaker 4 And then it just didn't come together because my wife and I always felt like, if we're going to make the movie, let's make the right movie.

Speaker 4 Let's not just make a movie, and especially a movie because, you know, most people in sports know the story. Yeah.
You know, so I don't want to just make a movie that just. chronicles the story again.

Speaker 4 You know, you got to have more depth to it. And so,

Speaker 4 you know, so we've worked through it.

Speaker 4 And finally, about three years ago, we got the right group together that really kind of saw the vision for what this story could be and how sports could be the backdrop.

Speaker 4 And obviously, that message is going to be in there, but that it's bigger than that.

Speaker 4 And it's about how we become who we become and how those people around us that support us and those kind of things help us to become what we ultimately become and what I ultimately accomplish.

Speaker 5 And did you get final cut on it?

Speaker 4 When you say final, like

Speaker 1 you're like, hey, I actually wasn't that bad in the middle.

Speaker 4 I don't get final.

Speaker 1 I was really bad.

Speaker 1 I would have changed it either. If they want to include that game,

Speaker 5 would you have told them, please take that game out?

Speaker 4 I would have probably told them to take it out. But ultimately, when you say final, final, they might have said, we're going to keep that in, and it stayed in.

Speaker 5 You can't tell the story of Kurt Warner without including that game.

Speaker 1 We killed the highest point.

Speaker 5 Because we're going to stop the story before that.

Speaker 4 We're going to stop it before that so we don't have to tell that story.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I mean, we had say in it. It was a collaborative effort.
But at the end of the the day, you know, we stepped back and said, okay, what's the movie?

Speaker 4 And so scenes that we really liked, things that were in there, characters that we really liked.

Speaker 4 You know, for instance, my dad is not even really in the movie. And I've got a great relationship with my dad, but he doesn't even really make the movie because it doesn't fit.

Speaker 4 Some of his scenes were cut out. And, you know, talk about a weird conversation to have.

Speaker 1 Like, dad, I love you.

Speaker 4 You're awesome. You've been.
But you're not in the movie of my life that's going to live forever.

Speaker 4 And so those things are hard because you want to go to battle and fight for certain things that are important to you.

Speaker 4 But ultimately, you've got to step back and go, okay, but what's the movie we're making? What are we trying to tell here?

Speaker 4 And I've got to trust people that they're making the right movie, even if it doesn't have all the elements. Even it's just a snapshot of the entire picture and not everything.
So it's not easy. And

Speaker 4 it's been a hard process for us, but you know, we've had to trust people with that. And hopefully we've got a movie that really connects with people.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Well, people go check it out.
All right. Last question.
I know you got to go. This has been fantastic.

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Speaker 1 Put your Super Bowl and give us the champion as of right now.

Speaker 1 It's very stupid. No one holds anyone to it.

Speaker 1 But I just like hearing other people say it. I will put it on the wall and blow.
You can do one right now. Like, you don't have to do your preseason one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 You know, and you were talking about the movie. We're talking about stories.
What I love about the NFL is that it always creates unbelievable stories for us every year.

Speaker 4 Things that we go, you can't make that up. So as much as I would love to see Arizona, because I do believe they could be one of the most complete teams, and I would love to see them take that trip.

Speaker 4 With what I've seen right now, and because I think it would be a great story, let me go with Tampa Bay and New England.

Speaker 4 And I just think it would be an unbelievable way to finish the season, and Tom got his last year, and Bill has his chance with a young quarterback, and, you know, and I think it's possible.

Speaker 1 It'd be the most watched Super Bowl of all time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and with the way both teams are playing, I think it's definitely possible. So it's not just a pipe dream like, oh, that would be a great story.
I think it's got a possibility of happening.

Speaker 4 Does Mac Jones have enough at the playoff time to get over the good teams two or three times? I'm not sure. But that, to me, I think

Speaker 4 would be a classic way to end this year.

Speaker 5 And it's funny because we've got a lot of Patriots fans around this office, and they're not lacking in confidence right now.

Speaker 5 But the second you suggest to them that they would have to play Tom Brady in the Super Bowl, they turtle up. Yes.

Speaker 1 They get scared.

Speaker 1 They get softened.

Speaker 4 It's a scary proposition.

Speaker 4 They know as well as anybody.

Speaker 4 In big moments, I don't want to go against that guy.

Speaker 1 Well, Kurt, thank you so much for stopping by. Always love having you on.
So anytime you want to come back, we appreciate it. Go check it out, American Underdog Christmas Day,

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Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to wrap up the show with the return of Jersey Jerry, Bring Your Lunch Pail, Blue Collar Talk, and more importantly, Rough and Rowdy.

Speaker 1 Rough and Rowdy, Friday night, Charleston, West Virginia, buyR.com. Jersey Jerry versus Jeff Nadue.
Also got a great fight card. My guy Shizzat.
The Rizzat's fighting.

Speaker 1 I think we have a rematch of Cherry Bomb versus, I can't remember the other

Speaker 1 female's name, but it was the best fight. What is it? She was a ring girl.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Cherry bomb burst.
Jake, Jake, Jake. I think it's Hot Wheels.
Hot Wheels, yes, there it is. I mean, that's a great matchup right there.
But, Jersey, Jerry, how are we feeling?

Speaker 13 Feel good. You ready? I feel strong.

Speaker 13 I feel like my cardio from COVID is getting back. My lungs are getting back.
You know, I trust my speed, power, accuracy.

Speaker 13 I feel good, man. I feel really good.

Speaker 5 A lot of people were saying that there's actually some bad blood between you and Jeff Nadu. And I didn't know how much of that was real and how much of that you're trying to sell a fight.

Speaker 5 But I've heard that like you guys actually don't like each other.

Speaker 13 Yeah, so when I called him out, I didn't, like I said, I was talking to Dave today. When I called him out, I really didn't even know who he was.
I thought he was the Gabagool kid.

Speaker 13 Hey, yo, you remember that guy with the burger? That's who I thought he was.

Speaker 1 Wait, are you talking about like the 10-year-old kid? No.

Speaker 13 Like, you ever see that kid?

Speaker 1 Oh, I knew who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 In the burgundy jumpsuit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That kid.

Speaker 13 I thought that was Jeff. So I really, I didn't know who he was.
I didn't have bad blood up until probably like a month and a half ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when you got COVID. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Is that blood, though? That's more bad. I think it's

Speaker 1 in your blood. Yeah.

Speaker 13 I think it's a pulmonary thing. Yeah.
Anyway.

Speaker 1 Okay, either way.

Speaker 13 But yeah, like I actually started to hate him probably about a month and a half, two months ago.

Speaker 6 So it's real.

Speaker 13 Oh, no, for sure. Like, you know, listen, I don't don't care that he called me a drug addict, junkie, or whatever.

Speaker 13 That pissed me off, and that just added fuel to the fire for the hate I already had for him.

Speaker 13 Um, I just started hating him when, like, people would really show me what kind of person he was with the stuff that he's done and the stuff that he said. That's when I started to actually hate him.

Speaker 1 So, what's your plan on Friday night? What are you going to do to him?

Speaker 13 Game plan is to come out and put the pressure on right away and back him up and have him on the defense the whole fight and run around the ring and cut off the corners and put him in a corner and just body work.

Speaker 13 And once he drops those hands, it lights out.

Speaker 5 I want to say for the record, I'm in the Jersey Jerry Army. I think it's disgusting what Jeff Nadu has done when he's saying all this shit about you being a junkie, using that to try to put you down.

Speaker 5 If anything, you have a great redemption story. Oh, yeah.
And you're somebody that has taken your life into your own hands,

Speaker 5 made something out of yourselves. You should be a person that we celebrate.
That type of stuff.

Speaker 13 He should not try to be using the junkie tag on you as a shameful thing yeah that should be a that's the start of the jersey jerry life story yeah that's that's how this all started you know after i got sober then that's when i started doing the funny videos and right doing the podcast getting canceled by kendrick perkins getting canceled by perkins canceled by bachelor nation

Speaker 1 yeah that's pretty much how he'd quickly tell the canceled by kendrick perkins because jerry also has a very different uh definition of canceled but he was like, one of the first things he said to me is like, Kendrick Perkins tried to cancel me.

Speaker 1 No, it's a fact.

Speaker 5 What happened?

Speaker 13 So this is what happened. So Kendrick Perkins was on like GetUp or something like that.
And

Speaker 13 he was just talking about, this is about, I don't know, maybe

Speaker 13 closer getting to the football season, but not the football season yet.

Speaker 1 It's called August.

Speaker 13 August, correct. Okay.

Speaker 13 Preseason, whatever. Okay.
Saying on that show, Ben's washed up. He's done.

Speaker 13 He shouldn't even play this year, whatever. I went at him on Instagram.

Speaker 1 You don't say that. No, it was a couple years ago.
Yeah,

Speaker 13 you know, you don't say that, whatever.

Speaker 13 Who are you to talk about football when you are average, at best, NBA basketball player? I'm not a fan of Kendrick Perkins. I know some people are, but I'm not.

Speaker 13 So he goes after Big Ben. Pretty much, if you go after Big Ben, then you're pretty much coming after Jersey Jerry.
So that's when I addressed him on Instagram.

Speaker 13 And then I had a fan the next day message me when I'm at work. And he said, hey, Kendrick is at this sports card place in New Jersey.
How far are you away from it? I looked it up, 30 minutes.

Speaker 13 So I told my foreman, I'm like, dude, I have to go. I have to go.
I have no choice. Like, boo dude, go do your thing.
So I left work. I rushed down to the sports card store.

Speaker 13 He's on Instagram Live with the sports card place. I storm in the door and you can curse here? Yeah.
I'm like, you you motherfucking pieces, shit, bubblegum sports reporter.

Speaker 13 You don't know shit about fucking football.

Speaker 13 And the owner knows me from the sports card place because I've bought cards there before. And we talked on Instagram and stuff.
So he's like, Jerry, stop. Jerry, stop.
We're on the live.

Speaker 1 I said, I don't give a fuck about the live.

Speaker 13 Fuck this motherfucker. And then that's when two of whatever, the sports card place, they had security there for him, Perkins.

Speaker 13 They like grabbed me and like, hey, you can't be in here, whatever, get out, whatever. I went back home and started going at him on Instagram again.
Addressing him.

Speaker 5 I get blocked.

Speaker 13 Not only do I get blocked by Perkins, I got shadow banned. I used to do card raffles, which I got caught up with Venmo that I had to pay a pretty big fine for.

Speaker 13 I was doing raffles on my Instagram for my sports cards. Venmo canceled me.

Speaker 1 Oh, they canceled me.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 13 I had to pay money. Yeah, Cash App.

Speaker 5 You should use Cash App.

Speaker 1 I didn't know this time.

Speaker 13 People would send me money for the raffles on Venmo, and they would type in the you know you could type something in yeah they would say raffle right so venmo

Speaker 13 venmo hold on long story short i used to have in my instagram lives between 400 and 600 people when i would go instagram live for these card raffles after i that he blocked me i got shadow banned and i noticed when i would go instagram live i would have 12 13 people in the live and people were saying like messaging me like dude it's not even giving me the notification you're going live anymore.

Speaker 13 So, Instagram had a lot to do with this. Kendrick Perkins had the most to do with this.

Speaker 1 He canceled you. Yeah.
Yeah. You know what?

Speaker 13 I haven't went Instagram live since.

Speaker 1 Wow, you should try it.

Speaker 13 Yeah, he canceled you, though.

Speaker 13 Do you think I would get views now if I went Instagram live? Do you think that shadow ban is over?

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably. Do you want to go live right now?

Speaker 13 I just want to see.

Speaker 5 Yeah, let's go live right now.

Speaker 5 Bring you to Lunch Pale. While you're going live, maybe Billy, because Billy did fight.
Billy, do you have any advice for Jersey Jerry about how to get into war mode?

Speaker 1 It's all about just accept. Actually, war mode is weird.
Sorry.

Speaker 13 Did you just see that note? I'm going to do it. That's good, Billy.

Speaker 5 Thank you.

Speaker 13 No, no, Billy, really quick. I just want to.
Look, look, look, look. Bit cat, pick at.
Yeah. Live video is unavailable.

Speaker 1 Look at the notification. Oh, yeah, dude.
Kendrick Perkins still has you canceled.

Speaker 13 Live video is temporarily unavailable for this account.

Speaker 1 Everyone, please ask Kendrick Perkins in his comments why did you block this video?

Speaker 13 Piece of shit.

Speaker 1 I can't even go Instagram live anymore. Bubble gum.
Scum damn.

Speaker 5 Did he tell you at least to carry the hell on? Huh? That's my favorite when he says that to people. Carry the hell on.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And all because he had the balls to say Big Ben might be getting older.

Speaker 5 Yep. Yes.

Speaker 5 We showed him.

Speaker 13 I mean, if you according to last week, his comments are false.

Speaker 1 That's true. Big Ben had a great week.
He did. Well, he had a great fourth quarter.

Speaker 13 And if you think about it like this, Big Ben last game was the oldest he's ever played in an NFL football game.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 5 But that record will be broken next week.

Speaker 13 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Right. Exactly.
Right.

Speaker 13 But as of last week, Kendrick Perkins is so off.

Speaker 1 So off. So off.
All right, let's do a couple questions.

Speaker 1 Hank's got some questions.

Speaker 13 Sorry, Billy. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 No, I thought, Billy, I thought he gave you some good advice there.

Speaker 1 No, you're good. It's fight week.
You can't be like, anything that happens during fight week, no one can be like, oh, George Jerry's kind of being a jerk. Like, no, it's fight week.

Speaker 5 And also, you're going to hear it from just a bunch of people that give you their advice on how to fight. You can't take everybody's advice.
Be you.

Speaker 1 Be you. Be you.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 6 I've been working for a manufacturing company for the past eight years and recently graduated with an electrical engineering degree.

Speaker 6 I got promoted into an engineering role and for the most part I enjoy it.

Speaker 6 Some days though I find myself missing the day-to-day grind of being on the shop floor and I was wondering if Jerry feels the same since moving to barstool.

Speaker 13 You know, it's funny he brings that up. You know, my mom asked me last week,

Speaker 13 she's like, how do you like we were eating at the dinner table and

Speaker 13 you know, kind of have the same routine every night. You know what I mean? I get home from work.
I take my shower, I go downstairs in my little spot that I have and just hang out.

Speaker 13 And then, when dinner's done, if I'm not cooking that night, she cooks and hey, Gerard, dinner's done, or whatever. Okay, so I go upstairs and we sat at the dinner table.

Speaker 13 And, you know, she's like, How you liking it, really, though? How do you like it? And I'm like, you know, there's days where I do miss, you know,

Speaker 13 my old job. I really do.
I miss being out in the cold and I miss seeing all the guys and having it's it's a different

Speaker 13 camaraderie there, you know what I mean, than it is here. Even though I love the people here, it's a lot different, you know what I mean? Here, I spend maybe six hours, seven hours a day, if that.

Speaker 13 You know, I'm a notorious early leaver sometimes, but

Speaker 13 you know, there you're spending 15, 16 hours every day, six days a week there, you know what I mean? So, I do miss it some days. I really do, but you know, I'm grateful that I'm here.
I really am.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question, Jerry. You had COVID recently.
How many of those guys checked up on you every day?

Speaker 13 Honestly, all the guys that I'm bringing to my fight have checked up on me.

Speaker 1 I checked up on you every single day. Every day.
You have. Every day I texted Jerry saying, how are you feeling? Every day.

Speaker 5 Do you miss being able to actually bring a lunch bail to work?

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah. So I actually, I still bring it here.

Speaker 1 Oh, I just don't put anything in it. Oh,

Speaker 13 it's attached to my book bag if you ever look at my book bag.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's smart.

Speaker 13 It's a Carhartt book bag, Carhartt lunchbox.

Speaker 1 I honestly think we should just put a bunch. I've told you this before, but we need to just put a bunch of bricks, and every day before you start work, you just move them from one part of the

Speaker 1 part of the office to the other. I would love that.

Speaker 6 That's a follow-up question. Someone else asked, Jerry, what does a typical lunch pail lunch look like? Also, how would you rate Schittsberg Steelers as an insult?

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 I know that laugh. That hurt him.
He's mad at that person. Can we get that person's name?

Speaker 1 I can ask. Yeah, because

Speaker 1 there's going to need to be a follow-up.

Speaker 13 So I say a typical blue-collar lunch box inside the lunch pail would be, I'm going to go two different routes.

Speaker 13 Let's say one for a hard day's work and one day that you know it's going to be kind of light. So a hard day's work, I would pack two peanut butter and jellies.
I would do

Speaker 13 probably two or three seltzers, a granola bar.

Speaker 13 and a chocolate pudding.

Speaker 1 Or you can do the mixed.

Speaker 13 You can do the vanilla and the chocolate pudding just to get like a little sweet in there.

Speaker 13 And then on an an easy day, I'd say

Speaker 13 you would do a turkey and cheddar lunchable.

Speaker 13 It already comes with the Capri Sun and the Reese's, so you're good.

Speaker 1 That would be the light.

Speaker 5 Or like an Andy's mint, maybe for the end. Yeah.
Yeah, those are nice. I like, it sounds just so cool because I actually miss high school lunches.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 5 Because there was something familiar about them.

Speaker 5 They would not like, you know, they weren't world-class meals. Yeah.
It was like 10 a.m. Probably, yeah, it was like 10 a.m.

Speaker 1 They're probably pretty shitty food. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But there's something like nice about just getting everything that you need on a tray and paying $2 for it.

Speaker 1 Now, what days of the week would you guys order? Fridays? Fridays? Usually that's a nice treat.

Speaker 13 And Saturdays.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a nice treat.

Speaker 13 See, like what a lot of people didn't know is too,

Speaker 13 that obviously never worked for the company I worked for. After 5:30

Speaker 13 in the afternoon, evening, if you work past 5:30, they would pay you $13.50 every time you work past 5.30, and that was your meal money.

Speaker 13 So, say if you finished work at 8 at night, on the clock, you were entitled to go for your meal with your crew at a diner or something like that.

Speaker 1 And sit down and eat. Sounds like that's what we got to put in place here so you don't leave early.
Yeah, I would love that.

Speaker 13 You know, I come in about, I'd say, 10:45,

Speaker 13 between 10.45 and

Speaker 13 11.30 around there. And then I'm usually, you know, I'm so so programmed, you know, like, it's so weird.

Speaker 13 I don't know how to explain it, but like 3 o'clock usually, like, when I'm working there, is like the break. That's when you sit in the truck and chill and stuff like that.

Speaker 13 And I'd say, honestly, about 2.41, I try to take the train.

Speaker 13 I do my two or three days.

Speaker 1 You can round up. Just describe the three and a half hour workday.
Now, did you? I do my shows.

Speaker 13 I do what I have to do.

Speaker 1 I'm training for Rough and Roundup. I'm training, you know what I mean? You do some stuff.
I just had a son. I'm a father of one.

Speaker 5 Congratulations.

Speaker 13 You know what I mean? So

Speaker 13 it's a long day for me.

Speaker 1 It's a long day. Leave them 11.30 to 2.40.
Would you work in blue collar?

Speaker 5 Would you do the thing where you just see how long you can go without looking at the clock?

Speaker 13 Sometimes. Yeah.
Sometimes. And it's crazy.
Like, if you do that and, like, don't pick up your phone, dude, the day just flies.

Speaker 1 It's like whenever I go on a treadmill, I cover up the

Speaker 1 time.

Speaker 5 I do that too on the row machine. You just, you drape it over there.
Yeah. Because that's all you'll do is you'll just stare at the and every second feels feels longer.
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 5 I had a question about

Speaker 5 union life for you, actually. Because about a year ago, we went through a brief unionization effort here at Power Store Sports.
It was a very real scandal and a very real thing that we dealt with.

Speaker 5 Have you given any thought to whether or not you would want to start a union here? I think it's such a good idea.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 13 And I'll be the shop steward.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 I think it would really change things a lot.

Speaker 5 Yeah, what would you like to see change around here?

Speaker 13 I'd like to see, and I'm not talking about any specific person here.

Speaker 1 Careful.

Speaker 5 No, no, that's management putting pressure on you, Jerry.

Speaker 1 Don't listen to management. It is.
Careful.

Speaker 13 Somebody who's a top dog here, this would never fly in the union, especially once you sign that contract. Somebody who I would say is a top dog here is in debt for pizzas still to me.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Actually, it might be six because we're in December.

Speaker 13 Wow, six.

Speaker 1 Six.

Speaker 13 Six. And once you sign that union contract, they pay the pizzas.
Oh, dude.

Speaker 13 I would have had six pizzas at the start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just to make sure, just to show a good faith.

Speaker 5 You could shut down operations. Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 You could strike right now because of the lack of pizzas. I could do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 And, you know, speaking of that, I might do that after the fight.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 I like that. I might start leaving at 12.40.

Speaker 1 11.30 to 12.40. Because the problem is, and I don't know which top dog you're talking about, but

Speaker 1 he keeps saying the pizzas are coming, the pizzas are coming.

Speaker 13 Yeah, and then you see, like, people getting delivered 52 pizzas.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 13 Like, that is, oh, I had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.

Speaker 13 That's the first time that you get a pass.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like, somebody goes home and they've got all their clothes have pizzas on them. Yeah.
And they're just making videos all the time talking about all the pizzas. They have too many pizzas.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 People are just giving them pizzas left and right. And meanwhile, how many pizzas do you have? Zero.

Speaker 1 Zero. None.
Zero.

Speaker 5 It's just something to think about.

Speaker 1 All right. Last question, Hank.
What do we got?

Speaker 1 Last one. Oh, give me two more.
We got time for two.

Speaker 6 How do prison records affect union membership?

Speaker 13 Um, it's pretty much doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 There it is. Doesn't matter.
That's a, yeah.

Speaker 13 Especially if you got family in there and they get you in, like, that's out the window.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like,

Speaker 13 I didn't have a

Speaker 13 passport. Sorry.
Um, in 2011, I I got my passport taken away for five years.

Speaker 13 And, you know, obviously I started the union before the five years was up. My boss asked, you know, hey,

Speaker 13 you know, your license and stuff like that, passport, whatever, if you have it. I don't have it.
You know, why did you get it taken away?

Speaker 13 I told him, and he's like, how the fuck did you get a job here?

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 So it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 I love it. Jerry, do you have any advice for the Major League Baseball players that are being locked out right now?

Speaker 1 You ever been locked out?

Speaker 13 We went on like,

Speaker 13 not a lockout, but like kind of like a stand down. Like, we ain't doing shit.
Like, we'll take the truck out, but we're sitting in our truck and we ain't doing nothing. You know, like,

Speaker 13 we still went to work, but we just didn't do anything for like a week. We just sit in the truck.
That must have been awesome.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it was great. Yeah.
It was great.

Speaker 13 Supervisors would come by and like, what are you guys doing? Nothing, sitting in the truck.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 13 Because they try to cut back overtime. Like, the supervision always tries to cut back overtime because of their pip.

Speaker 13 The less we work, the more money gets put in their pocket and their bonus and stuff like that.

Speaker 13 So they always try to shut down overtime while we, the workers, we try to make the money and work overtime. And once they play that bullshit cutting overtime, nah, fuck you, bro.
We won't do nothing.

Speaker 1 So that's kind of like... Here we're like

Speaker 1 a dog underneath the top dog has a stipulation in his contract that if he can make sure no one ever gets any pizzas, he gets an extra $2 million at the end of the year.

Speaker 5 Who gets that?

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 5 Is that a thing? It's interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Kind of just figured it out now.

Speaker 13 That would be really low.

Speaker 1 That would be really low. It would be.
Really low. All he has to do is keep six pizzas away from you, and he gets $2 million.

Speaker 1 Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 13 That'd be pretty wild.

Speaker 1 That'd be pretty wild. Pretty wild.

Speaker 5 What did you guys talk about in the truck?

Speaker 1 Didn't that get boring?

Speaker 13 Not really.

Speaker 13 It's just like dudes who just hate their wives and just hate.

Speaker 13 They just can't wait to

Speaker 13 hang out on the weekend and just drink and just gamble.

Speaker 1 Watch sports.

Speaker 13 Yeah, like stuff like that. Like, we would never have

Speaker 1 serious.

Speaker 13 No. Well, everybody.

Speaker 13 It wasn't really.

Speaker 13 Everybody was on the same page when it came about.

Speaker 13 I'm not going to say who.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Last one, Aank.

Speaker 6 Last one, a quick one.

Speaker 6 Does driving around cleaning swimming pools count as blue collar?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah.
I'd say so.

Speaker 13 Yeah. I'd think so.

Speaker 1 It's like lift-heavy shit. Well, I guess that's just cool.
Well, think about it like this.

Speaker 13 Pool construction is fucking people who are doing that as an everyday job probably live in warmer weather. Yeah.
So when they're doing that, I'm sure they're sweating.

Speaker 13 I'm sure the sun is beating on them. You know what I mean? So I'd say blue collar.

Speaker 1 Maybe if you're doing it in like Florida, you got to deal with alligators sometimes. Yeah, exactly.
I'd just say danger.

Speaker 5 It's a sweat at work.

Speaker 1 It's blue collar. For sure.

Speaker 5 I don't care if you're just like a little bit out of shape and you're doing spreadsheets and you're doing them really fast. I agree.
If you're so fast on the computer that it makes you sweat,

Speaker 1 that's blue collar. For sure.

Speaker 13 100%.

Speaker 1 All right, Jerry. Thank you.
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Speaker 13 Second round knockout. Second round knockout.

Speaker 5 Put a body shot.

Speaker 1 All right, Jerry, pick a number. We're all picking numbers.
Okay.

Speaker 1 81.

Speaker 13 Give me 21. 21.
All right.

Speaker 1 68. Jake, 18.

Speaker 1 18 for Jake.

Speaker 1 It's exciting. If you hit this, you get six pizzas.

Speaker 1 52. 52.

Speaker 9 Seventh time tied with 47.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Coming for the crown.

Speaker 9 It's like LeBron and MJ and Brady and Manning part three.

Speaker 1 52 and 40.

Speaker 1 Or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 LeBron and MJ part two.

Speaker 4 Love you, guys.

Speaker 1 Talking away.

Speaker 1 I'm the one

Speaker 1 I'm to say. I'm saved anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's a nightly day to find you shy away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've been coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Fake

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

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Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 all true

Speaker 1 Needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm all descendants But he's a little way

Speaker 1 Thirdly learning that life is okay

Speaker 1 Say after me

Speaker 1 It's no better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone