Frank Gore, The Bella Twins, Thanksgiving And Week 12 Preview & Picks

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Today is Wednesday, November 24th and I am thankful for you guys and our friendships. I'm very thankful, and what I'm especially thankful for is it seems like we've turned the corner after last Sunday's debacle where we really were.
We had the old Mexican standoff. Hank apologized to me.
That's big of him. He did.
Yeah, I mean, I slept on it. He knew he was in the wrong.
I slept on it. It was more just in the moment.
In the moment, I was upset, not really at you guys, but I was mad, and you guys kind of got in my crosshair, and so I snapped. I didn't take it personally.
But I wasn't... I understand that I was in the wrong, and I shouldn't have been as crabby as I was.
Nothing personal. Yeah.
But you did, Mushtare. But it's all right.
We're good now, though. Nothing personal.
That's the most important part, is we're okay now. And as Martin Luther King said, quoting Aaron Rodgers, we must learn to live together as friends, or we perish together as fools.
Oh, okay. So we're good.
Coach Boone in Remember the Titans. It was.
Great movie. Yes.
It's a great movie. Remember when you saw that? Like a decade later? Last week? Yeah.
All right. So it is Thanksgiving.
It is football time. We had Monday Night Football, so we're going to break up the show here.
We have Frank Gore coming up. We're going to do a Thanksgiving preview.
We have Frank Gore, and then we will do the weekend preview and the Bella Twins. So if you have to work on Friday first, quit your job.
We say that every year, quit your job. It is unconscionable for a boss to make someone work on Friday.
The only job that you should work on this Friday would be if you're selling Christmas trees. Or a first responder.
Or a first responder. You're doing the public good.
You're performing a valuable service. You're saving lives and providing people's homes with better smells.
Besides that, just quit. Quit.
Quit. Or just say you're sick.
Blanket statement. If you work at a big box retailer and you have to go in on Thanksgiving, you will never regret quitting that job.

You will look back in years and be like, that was awesome that I quit the day before Thanksgiving and left my manager in a shitty spot.

Yes.

Unless, of course, you have a job where they're letting you pick a day after Thanksgiving or some other day and it's like no one's going to be here.

I'm going to go and fuck around. I can kind of see that world.
I can kind of see that world, but also quit. Alright.
Monday Night Football happened. The Giants are dead.
Jason Garrett got fired. Daniel Dimes, not so much, and the Bucs, I mean, the Bucs are going to do what we all kind of expected.
They're going to round into form, figure it out. It was kind of an unremarkable game.
It was like the Bucs went down the field in the first drive, which was just precision offense, and then there was a fat guy touchdown, and then the game was over. And then you blinked and the game was over.
Daniel Jones had maybe the worst interception of the year. Yeah, he did.
He practically threw it to a guy, a fat guy, who was already laying down yes and that was it was a it was a doy doy play by daniel jones and then the fat guy touchdown was obviously awesome i actually think that peyton manning got jason garrett fired today because when peyton manning predicted that call that play call on fourth and short i think that was like the third quarter and he's like, they're going to do the fake handoff Daniel Jones run option right now.

And then they did it, and Peyton Manning just buried his head in his hands.

And then Eli was like, well, if you saw it coming

and the defense saw it coming, that's not a good sign.

I guarantee you Gettleman watched that.

It was like, fuck, I can't have Peyton Manning predicting my calls.

Yeah, it's not good.

It wasn't good for Jason Garrett.

It's not good for the Giants.

The Giants are in prime spot, though, to win a few games down the stretch and have everyone be like, they're building something, even though they're probably not. I don't know.
I think if you're the Giants, they're probably going to go two offensive linemen in the first round. They have two first-round picks, right? Where'd the other one come from? I'm pretty sure they have two first-round picks.
Oh, that's the one that, yeah, pro football focus was like, we have them taking two offensive linemen in the first round, and we give them a C in our preemptive draft grade. I have the Bears pick.
Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
That's right. You totally forgot.
You forgot every show. Also, one other thing, Hank, would you like to defend your man's Tom Brady going studs up on that slide in the first quarter? That's the second time I've seen Tom Brady do this.
He likes to execute these late challenges, these high slide tackles. I mean, he's a competitive guy.
It was a funny slide. He started the slide from like three zip codes over.
He's just like, I'm really going to slide. He was running around.
By the way, I do have a note. Who tweeted Thick6 from the part of my take account? Wait, let me guess.
We're not doing that. I just want to say that right now.
We're not doing that. Memes.
That's okay. We're not doing that.
Fat guy touchdown is great. Fat guy touchdown plays.
It's very, it says it. It's a fat guy touchdown.
Yeah, but does it rhyme? No, but we're not doing the

cutesy thick six thing.

We can't do that. The thick six

belongs to guys who are thick to say.

It belongs to the

Mike Golick juniors and the Jeff Schwartzes

of Twitter. They're the ones that

started that one. I

still enjoy calling them fat.

Yeah, it's not broke.

Fat guy touchdown. That's not broke.
When you say fat guy touchdown, you you're like oh i want to watch this this is going to be awesome thick six it's we're not doing that i do think that fat guy touchdown should be worth more points yes if you're above 300 pounds it's worth eight points you're so passionate no i just i actually saw feedback you've given in years yeah the only the only like remarkable thing from the game was fat guy touchdown and i saw we treat i mean memes does a great job it's not like he's given in years. Yeah, the only remarkable thing from the game was fat guy touchdown.
And I saw we tweeted, I mean, Memes does a great job, so it's not like he's actually in trouble. I'm just saying, we're not doing thick six.
I think fat guy touchdown is a perfect description of a fat guy scoring a touchdown. I think what happened was Big Cat saw Jeff Schwartz tweet it and then Gojo replied to it with thick six and then saw it like retweeted by cole kubalik all three guys that we like but then big cat was like we can't that's their thing no i i actually literally said fat guy touchdown then i saw our our account tweet thick six and i was like wait why are we calling it anything besides fat guy but you wouldn't want the account to just steal your tweet no but it i don't doesn't matter.
I'm telling you how it went down. I didn't see anyone else.
I saw us tweet it. Okay.
And I was like, we got to keep calling it Fat Guy Touchdown because that's what it is. You know what? We're just stealing Joe Thomas' meme.
Yeah. That's what we're doing.
Yeah. I actually don't know.
Is it something that a lot of people tweet? That was the first time I'd seen it. I think they've been in Congress about it, and they've discussed it next time that there's a primetime fat guy touchdown.
We're changing the narrative. You saw a lot of people tweet it.
Oh, no, it was all over the timeline. All right, so we're not – yeah, fat guy touchdown.
It's the perfect thing. Fat guy scoring touchdowns is awesome, always.
Also, thick six, you'd think that it would be an interception. Right.
Yeah. So it makes no sense.
It can't be any offensive line and touchdown. You're clouding the water.
Maybe a defensive line and interception for a touchdown. That could be a thick six.
I'd be okay with that. I'd still probably go fat guy touchdown.
But, yeah, that would at least make sense. All right.
What about – this is how good the game was. This is what the debate is now.
What about a swole touchdown? You call it an STD. Okay.
That's more if you're just jacked.

We workshop that, yeah.

We're looking at Michael Jr. as potentially

the creator. He's of the thick six?

Yeah. Okay.
So credit to him.

As Billy would say, just Google

thick six intellectual property

and the Google result will

show you who invented it.

Yes. But yeah, the game was

very, like it was just not a very good game, right? Because it was, the Bucs were in control the whole time. The Giants, to have a good game, the Giants had to have that spunk to them, and they just didn't have it last night.
And, like, who came in for the Bucs? Who's their backup? Blaine Gabbert. He came in at the end.
All aboard the Blaine trade. He came in with, like, six minutes The other note that I had about the game was I love those Giants throwback uniforms.
Yes. I love the altruists.
Incredible. But I feel like they always suck in them.
So I don't know. You're in a tough situation if you're a Giants fan because literally everyone loves it.
I think even Giants fans like those uniforms. But I don't recall seeing them ever win while they wear them.
Yeah, they are very, very good. I mean, they also have lost a lot in the last five years.
That's true. I was saying this last night, and Billy and the New York guys were getting mad at me, but this is a serious question.
As long as we've been in New York, they've always been terrible. If they combine teams, would the Jets and Giants be a good top half of the NFL team? Billy, if you include the Bills as a New York team.
Okay, well, that's three teams. Billy's right.
If you did the whole AFC North as one team, the Bears would be awesome. We're combining New Jersey teams.
Yeah. Could New Jersey put together a team that could compete? Who's their quarterback? Flacco? That's brutal.
I think it's Danny Dimes. And yeah, I don't know if they would.
Probably not. You know what? They would make the playoffs.
I don't think they would compete for. Yeah, they would make the playoffs.
I think they would have about the exact same records. No, they would definitely make the playoffs.
If you just cut it. Yes.
Because if you add 100 guys that make an NFL roster together and just pick the best 53 of them, they would make the playoffs.

I think it depends on what uniforms they would end up wearing.

If they get to wear the Giants uniforms, I think they make the playoffs.

If they wear the Jets, I don't think they do.

They don't.

And maybe Rex Ryan gets to coach them.

All right, so college football rivalry week.

We're taping this before they announce the college football seeding. I think we all probably expect what's going to happen.
It's going to be Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, maybe Ohio State too. I don't know where they end up putting them.
Cincinnati, Michigan. Everything will get figured out.
Cincinnati, just so we're clear, because I know this is going to happen if Cincinnati makes the playoff, people are going to be like, well, you owe Kirk Herbstreit a dinner. We owe him a dinner if what happens, which I still do not think is going to happen, if a Power 5 one-loss team gets jumped by Cincinnati.
And I still don't think that's going to happen. I think if Oklahoma State wins out and Ohio State wins out and Bama beats Georgia, Cincinnati will be fucked.
But that's a lot of stuff. So as of right now, I think Cincinnati will find a way to get in.
I think Cincinnati is going to end up getting – But no stick dinner. We'll have to go as friends.
I think they're going to end up getting jumped anyways, I think, if you were to really look at how it's going to shake out in the last couple weeks. I think that the committee does not want Cincinnati in the playoff.
I'm not saying that they're right. I would like to see Cincinnati in the playoff just to see what the hell happens when you have a group of five team in there.
But I think the committee's got other plans. I also am very much looking forward to this year's Egg Bowl because we've got a storyline unlike any other going into it.
The Ole Miss kicker has been suspended for using steroids going into the game, which is perfect narrative going into it something fucked up always happens yes in Ole Miss Mississippi State and Lane Kiffin said that you shouldn't hate uh your rival uh just because of what school they go to which sounded I don't know if he's already if he's already got his Florida hat on no that's rat poison yeah he's giving him rat poison he uh Cincinnati though will though, will get in unless that chaos that I just said happens, they will get in. They are now set up.
They have to still beat Houston. Shout out Houston.
Shout out Coach Dana. They are set up because the Pac-12 has cannibalized itself and the ACC has cannibalized itself and there's no good team in neither of those conferences that could make it.
So, they up to finally make the playoff crash the playoff if they win out justice for UTSA yeah justice for UTSA although that was a crazy ending the way they won that game it was stupid it was crazy but uh yeah I do think as as we sit here right now I think Cincinnati will find a way to get in because I don't see Bama beating Georgia, Ohio State winning out, and Oklahoma State winning out. All three of those things happen, mostly just Bama beating Georgia.
On the coaching search front, I've seen some evidence that the Virginia Tech plane was in Lynchburg, Virginia, home of Liberty University. Oh, wow.
And I also heard that Hugh Freeze did a little secret meeting with them and he was the one that actually got on that plane and flew back to Blacksburg with Virginia Tech that would be a hilarious combination yes he knows the area get get him I would love to see Hugh Freeze at a big program again yes absolutely love it it's it's he definitely will get another shot because the guy can coach, the guy can recruit illegally. He's entertaining.
The coaching carousel is going to be awesome to watch because Dan Mullen getting fired, which I kind of expected. I think everyone who is watching the situation expected because Florida is a complete dumpster fire.
It also speaks to how awesome the SEC is that you can't have one bad year in the SEC if you're one of the top programs. You can't.
He went to the SEC championship game last year. He had a bad, he lost to Missouri.
It's also, there's like a list, we should get a finite list of teams that you can't lose to if you're an SEC power. And then if you knock, like, you can't lose to South Carolina when they're rebuilding.
They did that. And then when they lost to Missouri, it's like, well, you really can't lose to Missouri here.
No, Vanderbilt. Like we were saying with the Kansas thing in the Big 12.
If you lose to Kansas, you're probably going to get fired. Doesn't matter what else you do.
Which Texas, by the way, has not won since PFT said they might sneak in the playoff. That's a fact.
I had a thought yesterday, and it's going to make so many people mad, but I think it think it's a legitimate question to ask so if you're a texas fan okay i'm warning you turn your radio off if you're an a&m fan turn your radio up because it's gonna make you smile um if you're texas you definitely still you regret for the first time in probably like eight years firing mac brown you you wish that mac brown had stuck around. I'll go one further.

If you're Texas, you regret firing Tom Herman.

No, no.

I don't think so.

Yes.

I don't think so because he had a couple years.

He had a couple years to put his Herman stink on the program.

Sarkeesian is still like.

Did they not go to the Big 12 championship game last year?

And they haven't beaten anyone this year?

They've lost seven in a row and lost to Kansas?

Like, I think that's how bad it's gotten to Texas,

that there's definitely Texas fans that are like,

wait, did we make a mistake here by firing Tom Herman?

Even if we thought it was really bad then, it's way worse now.

He also had first-round talent, Sam Ellinger, quarterback,

and Sarkeesian doesn't have that right now.

I think that most Texas fans, they are looking at Sark as being like two-, three-year project because he's got to get recruiting. He's got to do all that stuff.
Herman was like, okay, we gave him enough time. We figured out it's not going to work.
It's not going to fit for what we want to do. So we'll move on from Herman.
But if you look at the big picture, damn, Mack Brown's looking pretty good to you right now. And Mack Brown was the only person in the last 25 years

that could really handle the Texas side of Texas

when it comes to managing the boosters,

glad-handing everyone,

Miss Sally's out here shaking everyone's hand.

Mack Brown was as good as it was going to get for Texas.

And then everybody else,

they've just been trying to chase that.

Tom Herman, they didn't go to the Big 12 championship game last year, but they were tied for third, and they were the 19th team in the country. And now they're a complete, complete dumpster fire that's completely bottomed out.
It's a rebuilding year. I think they absolutely – there's definitely some Texas fans.
They're like, did we fuck up firing Tom Herman? Because, man, this is bad. I think the fuck up is moving on from from mac brown but that's a long time ago like that's probably there's been probably many years where they've been like we messed up with that like all the iterations of texas coaches no because i don't i don't think they've ever truly admitted that that was a mistake because at the time when mac brown got far when he they mutually decided to part ways um everybody was kind of in agreement that, yeah, Mack just kind of got lazy, stopped recruiting.
The program's tanked at this point. And then ever since then, they've had a lot of big-name hires, or hires that were supposed to be the next guy, the guy that was going to get them back to the place.
So they've been looking forward. Now you have to think, like, damn, Mack Brown was pretty good while he was here.
I'm telling you, Tom Herman was pretty good when he was here. Tom Herman went well over .500, won a big bowl game, the Texas' back bowl.
Yeah, that thing is a mess. It'll be interesting to see the coaching carousel.
It's very rare that three top ten jobs are open in Florida, USC, and LSU.

So it's going to be fun to watch coaches squirm, big-time coaches squirm.

I'm trying and failing to think of a more hilarious situation

than Jason Garrett ending up at LSU.

That would be very funny to see him try to fit into that culture.

Like, hey, can I have a fork for all these miniature spicy lobsters

that you're serving me?

I just want Urban Meyer to go back to Florida or go to usc it would just be fun it'd be fun to see you think urban could coach the jaguars and the gators at the same time yes i think he'd probably be a better coach absolutely NFL coach if he had like other shit that he had to take care of absolutely yeah keep himself extra busy um right, so we'll see how rivalry week goes. I'm very, very excited.
Oh, one last thing. If you're a superstitious person, if you believe in these type of things, Milton Andrew Munson, Jr., who passed away a couple days ago, 73 years old, his obituary, he said, in lieu of flowers, please place an irrespons wager on nebraska beating iowa so i will be placing a wager on nebraska in you have to for a dead guy you have to i like that it's a nice change of pace from the old obituaries that you always see where it's like i don't know a browns fan that dies yeah like oh they requested that the pallbearers be uh offensive lineman on the cleveland brown so they can let him down one down one last time.
I'm sick of that. That's plagiarism at this point.
If you're plagiarizing from beyond the grave, I got no time for you. This guy, I appreciate the fact that his family – I don't even think it was this guy's idea.
I think his family was just like he would have liked this very much. Put a big bet on Nebraska.
Oh, yeah. In his obituary, it says, around the time the Huskers were jobbed by the refs against Penn State in 1982, the effects of bipolar disorder and addiction began to take hold on Milt and would profoundly affect him for the rest of his life.
So, they really went in on the obituary. So, the complete opposite of it's okay to not be okay.
Yeah, and it's also just the complete opposite of the cliche.

Nebraska had a tremendous negative impact on his life at certain points.

Also positive in the 90s.

Nebraska killed him, though.

Yes, yes. Do you think that Milt, if he can see his obituary right now,

it'd be very funny if he was like, what the fuck?

I didn't even really like football that much.

Yeah, what the hell?

I think the football guy is the person that wrote the obituary for his dead relative, actually. Yes, I'd agree.
I'd agree. All right.
Let's do some Thanksgiving. One last thing.
Yeah. Bedlam.
Yeah. Bedlam's fucking awesome.
Tell me, everybody tune in, watch Bedlam, and tell me that that sky is not the darkest sky that you've ever seen in your life. It's going to be the first Bedlam I don't take the over in probably in my entire life.
I'm going to say fuck it and take the over anyways because it's Bedlam. Oklahoma State's defense is very good.
I know. But neon black, baby.
Yeah. So it will be, yeah, I'm excited for all the games.
Great slate of college football games on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. All right, let's talk Thanksgiving, though.
Thanksgiving Day, the Bears and the Lions, Tim Boyle versus Andy Dalton, official. I'm sorry.
Thank you. I'm sorry.
No, I've changed my mind about it. It's hilarious enough to the point where I like the fact that it's Andy Dalton and Tim Boyle.
Here's what I'll say. Let's do some perspective because you would think this is going to be the worst game ever.
If we have maybe a younger audience, they don't remember that in 2004, the Bears played on Thanksgiving Day against the Cowboys. That actually might have been the worst game ever.
I'd actually like to see 30 for 30 done on this game because it had four quarterbacks. Can you name any of the four quarterbacks that played in this game? 2004? Two and two.
Two for the Bears, two for the Cowboys. Orton.
Nope. Am I too early for Orton? Yes.
It was Jonathan Quinn and Craig Krenzel on the Bears, Drew Henson and Vinny Testaverde on the Cowboys. This game was so bad, so bad, that it featured four quarterbacks and three of the quarterbacks, that was the last time they played an NFL game.
They threw a pass in the NFL game. It was just agreed upon.
We're not going to do this again. We're done.
So just remember, there's 19 punts in the game. 19 punts.
Three for 27 on third down. People should watch the YouTube of that game to remind yourself that it can't be that bad.
Was Bill Parcells coaching? Yes. At that point, that was like his first year? Yes.
It was so, so bad. So this one's going to be bad, but it can't be that bad.
All right. I think we need to have an honest conversation as a nation about Tim Boyle.
What the fuck is Tim Boyle? Why is Tim Boyle in the NFL? And if you're Tim Boyle, please don't. I'm sorry, but I'm doing my job as a sports analyst on this.
Why is he in the NFL? Well. Have we figured out? Because he wasn't even good at UConn.
No. He actually sucked at UConn.
Right. And then he transferred to Eastern Kentucky and had a breakout season his senior year where he threw for 11 touchdowns and 13 interceptions.
Yes. After sucking at UConn, he sucked at Eastern Kentucky.
Yes. And now we've just agreed that he's going to be an NFL quarterback? Well, he has what some people would refer to as good in the room qualities.
I think that's got to be the only thing that it's, you know, Chase Daniel was actually good at Missouri, but there are certain guys who stick around long enough because everyone just kind of likes them. And they're non-threatening.
Like, Tim Boyle is non-threatening in a quarterback room. And he's a good guy, and everyone looks at him and is like, hey, there's Tim Boyle.
But it does make no sense. Do you know that Tim Boyle's a good guy? That has to be the only reason.
There's no other explanation. Unless he has blackmail on somebody.
But it would have to be two different teams. That's true.
Because it would make sense if he had blackmail on one team and was on that team. And we all were just like, oh, that's weird, Tim Boyle.
But he was on the Packers, and now he's on the Lions. And Tim Boy What? I mean, they should write a movie on Tim Boyle.
Hollywood would throw you out if you brought this script to them. We had this argument with Dion on the Pro Football Football Show because we were like, Tim Boyle sucked at UConn.
How was in the NFL? And Dion was like, well, everyone in the NFL is good. We're like, no, I don't think so.
No. I don't think Tim Boyle's good.
Tim Boyle's not good. No.
Spoiler alert for the Pro Football Football Show. There it is.
Yes. He stonked at UConn.
He was like really, really bad at a really, really bad school playing against other really, really bad opponents. Tim Boyle.
And now he's in the NFL. Yep.
Yeah. Tim Boyle.
Tim Boyle. He's probably got some measurables we don't know about.
Well, okay. Let's be fair.
He's 6'4". Yeah.
He's 232. Probably can throw the ball very far.
He looks good coming off the bus. Yes.
On the Bears side of things, Big Cat. Yeah.
The Bears are actually doing us a favor by not firing Matt Nagy ahead of this game. Yes.
Because. The report that he's fired after this game, which again is just, I don't know.
It's a weird, weird thing that's going around right now. I don't even think that the report's right.
No. Well, yeah.
It's who fires someone and doesn't fire them. Either that or Matt Nagy could just, I could see him crying and crying his job back.
Yes. He could definitely pull one of those moves.
Chuck Pagano did that, right? Yes, he did. He just cried with Jim Irsay for a while.
He cried his way back, yes. I could see Nagy just definitely just...
And Doug. Oh, yeah, Doug Peter.
Doug Miron. No, no, no.
That was all speculation on our part. He kind of said it got emotional.
I think we fed him that. We were like, just say that you cried.
And he was like, sure. Yeah, whatever weirdos want.
He's from the Bronx, dudex dude he fights he doesn't cry uh he would take down jill and ramsey i think that they're doing us a favor by not firing matt nagy because they would have given the team insane interim energy yeah and then they would have beaten the lions as it stands now after all that shit that i talked about tim boyle i I'm going to bet on the Lions' money line. I'm betting on Tim Boyle, the worst quarterback maybe ever to play in the NFL.
The Bears shouldn't be favored over anyone. It's crazy.
I know the Lions don't have a win, but the Bears are four-point favorites over the Lions. The Bears, everyone is either injured or hates Matt Nagy and has quit, and now Andy Dalton's going to go out out there and it's going to be just a god-awful game also just a side note I think you guys saw the fire Nagy chance have been going around Chicago there was one at Nagy's son's high school game and I don't like that okay but here's these guys have families yeah this is the best part now I'm not going to tell like high school kids are going to be mean no matter what.
Right. Like that's it's crazy to sit on a pedestal and be like, I can't believe these high school kids.
How could they do this? I also think it's very funny. It sucks for the kid.
It sucks. I wish that hadn't happened.
It sucks. But it's very funny to see a lot of people on Twitter be like, there's a time and place like Twitter where I say the really mean things about Matt Nagy and his sons who are in high school can most likely read.
Yeah. Like I'd be such a hypocrite to be like, how could you possibly do that? Their sons can watch this podcast where I've said very mean things about Matt Nagy.
The difference is like it would be like you adding his sons on Twitter. Of course.
Where you go to their game and you scream it at the kids on the field. Like you're not saying that to start a conversation or get the debate going.
You're not calling up like your favorite drive time host on Chicago sports radio. You're actually like telling his son that.
Which shouldn't do. But it's also in the first amendment that you're allowed to.
Shouldn't do. But it's just funny to me to be like, there's a time and place.
And some of the people saying there's a time and place have also said some shitty things about Matt Nagy or been like, fire him. He needs to be fired.
I'm just not going to be a hypocrite here. You shouldn't do it there.
But I also am not going to be like, damn, I can't believe these kids. How dare they? They're fucking high school kids.
They're mean. Do you think that at some point, if somebody is like chanting at you that your dad sucks at his job, eventually you'll be like, Dad, you suck at your job.
You should be fired. You think they can be turned against their own dad? Yeah, probably like, well, if you watched his offense enough.
Yeah. I bet you that the kid's offense in high school is more creative than what the Bears are putting out there.
Yes, absolutely. The big question is, was Matt Nagy at the game? I think he was.

Maybe not. I don't know, actually.
I can't

confirm or deny. Either way,

it's a weird situation. He knows he's fired.

Everyone knows he's fired. It's whether

a question that it's going to be right after

this game or at the end of the season. I'd probably lean

towards the end of the season because the Bears never

fired anyone in season.

But yeah, the Bears are a dumpster fire. This game, I

apologize to America. No, I'm okay

with it again. It's gotten so bad

and I followed my own advice where

a fired anyone in season. But yeah, the Bears are a dumpster fire.
This game, I apologize to America. No, I'm okay with it again.
Okay. It's gotten so bad that, and I did, I followed my own advice where I picked up a bunch of really shitty players in fantasy football.
So now I forced myself to care about the game. I love it.
So I have an excuse to be like, no, listen, I really got to watch this Bears-Lions game. Yes.
It means a lot to me personally. All right.
So should we do, we're going to do, how we're going to do our picks right now is we're going to do one pick for Thanksgiving Day, and then we'll do our four picks after Frank Gore interview. So, Hank, why don't you start one pick? Yeah, we always start with you.
Yeah, we're adding a pick. There's a fifth pick.
It can be anything you want. It can be an over, an under, a favorite.
Got it. And we can talk about all three games.
The turkey pick. The turkey pick.
What's your turkey pick, Hank? What's your turkey pick, Hank? And a side that you like. And a side.
We should debate sides. I'm going to go with the Buffalo Bills.
Minus five and a half. Whoa.
I think you said this on Advisors, but I was watching that earlier. Loser leaves town game.
It is. The Bills have to win this game.
It is. They have to win this game.
Trevor Simeon is just not good. No.
Just not good. So if this was three weeks ago, I feel like the spread would have been like 11.
This is smart. The Bills have kind of come back to earth.
But I still think this is their get right game. If they're going to make a run, they have to win this game.
And they have to dominate. Taysom Hill fresh off a brand new contract.
Yes. Again.
I was so confused about that. It makes no sense.
I had to like, I was having a stroke. I was like, am I on Twitter two years ago? The only team that does this is the Saints.
And it's because if anything weird is happening in contract situations in New Orleans, it's because Sean Payton just wants to get his guys paid. Yes.
And so he'll just restructure a contract and give somebody a crazy big number that it looks like so that they can get more money up front because Sean Payton just loves taking money from the owners of the team and transferring it to his players. Yes.
And that's why players love him and want to keep playing with him because he'll go out of his way to make sure that you get paid. Also, maybe he did it because he's like, I'm never going to start you, but I'm going to keep paying you like a starter just so that we can be friends.
Yeah. It's like a gadget boy.
Well, it's like at the start of the pandemic when we all paid our dog walkers. Yes.
And yeah. So even though we don't need your services right now, we want to make sure that you're still happy because we're good people.
Yeah. Right.
Sean Payton. Good, good guy of the year award.
All right. So you're taking the Bills.
I have taken the Bills. All right.
Minus five and a half. Of all these choices, and you take a favorite.
Interesting. Did we change Hank? He's about to switch.
No, I can't. The Lions, like if it was Jared, that would be the easiest bet in the world, although they'd probably be favorites.
You're not a Tim Boyle guy? Not a Tim Boyle guy at all. Raiders are bad.
And the Raiders, it's like, eh.

Okay. I don't know.
The Bills is the

clear pick out of those, in my opinion.

IMHO.

That game, yeah.

It is a loser leaves town. It feels like whoever

loses that game, we're going to feel

very, very bad about.

Liam.

I'm going to take the over in that game. Okay.
Overs Club. Yeah.
Go to the Barstool Sportsbook. One for the Overs Club and two, I feel like the bills are just due for a breakout game.
Yes. Yes.
Very much so. All right.
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PFT. And you're going to be drunk after Thanksgiving.
Points. Just sitting on the couch.
Points, points, points, points. Chaos.
I'm taking Tim Boyle. Yeah.
I'm taking Tim Boyle. Three? I have to.
I have to take Tim Boyle. In all likelihood, I'm never going to get a chance to bet on Tim Boyle again.
Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm also going to take, I'm not going to bet against the Bears, but I'm also going to take Tim Boyle. I'm going to take the over 41.5 in that game.
That's fucking crazy. No.
It's the dumbest pick I've ever made. This game is going to be – here's my prediction for the final score.
Expected points in this game, 13-4 is my final score. I was just going to say it's going to be one of those weird score games.
What are those called? When you have a score that's like you don't see ever? A rare score. It's a rare score.
Yeah, I'm going to take Tim Boyle. I have no choice but to take.
I'm going to be a Boilermaker. And he did an interview and he said, I've been in the NFL for four years now.
i'm not a rookie it's my first okay you're trying are you telling us or are you asking us no he's just saying i'm not a rookie everyone stop calling me a rookie i've been around for four years uh and he just he appreciates that that dan campbell is giving him an opportunity he said whatever he calls it's going to be great so So we've got some awesome chemistry going on between Dan Campbell and Tim Boyle. I just want to see Dan get his first win on Thanksgiving.
That's really – I'm betting with my heart, not my brain. I have nothing left in this game because Justin Fields isn't even playing, so the goal of watching him progress is gone, and I want Matt Nagy fired, and it would be great if...
I don't know. I'm taking the over.
It's the dumbest pick I've ever made in my life, but wouldn't it be cool if it was a Tim Boyle-Andy Dalton shootout? It would be very cool. Imagine if both of them threw four touchdown passes.
It'd be very cool. Or three pick sixes each, you'll get your over.
There we go, Jake. That's positive vibes.
right, Billy, what's your pick? I'm also on that.

Okay.

Let's go.

Let's ride together, Billy.

Yeah, over.

Over 41.5 Bears-Lions.

But that's your turkey pick.

It doesn't count on the drive to the 405.

No, no, this does count.

This does count.

We are?

We're doing five official picks.

Yes, five official picks.

I didn't know it was going to be official.

You still feel good about Tim Boyle? No. That's okay.
I feel great about Tim Boyle. Yeah.
I mean, I took the over. There's no dumber pick in the world than that.
Yeah, I think I took Tim Boyle, and then you guys were like, fuck it, I'm not going to let you one-up me. Yeah, I'm taking Tim Boyle to do well.
You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. All right.
Bill, are you sticking with it? We're doing one Thanksgiving plus the usual four correct okay yeah correct thanksgiving can be any category um i'm also with liam for the overs club 45 and a half all right and then we didn't talk about the raiders cowboys weird kind of game because i don't know what to expect from the raiders at this point in the season and the cowboys like are they cds out i would assume right i think so is. If he's still concussed, he's going to be out.
Zeke, I think, is nicked. Okay.
I think he's... CD has cobwebs.
Zeke is nicked. And Amari's out.
Amari has COVID. COVID, yeah.
So... Not great.
No. But, I mean, the Raiders looked pretty bad last week.
Really bad. And the emotional bubble has burst fully on the Rich Basickia days.
You think so? Yeah. You think that's done? I think it might be done.
Yeah, I'm going to take Mike McCarthy on Thanksgiving. He's going to be hungry.
He'll be real hungry. Real hungry.
Probably a couple drumsticks hidden underneath his poncho. I hope his stomach's mic'd up so you can just hear it growling all game.
Let's make sure Mike gets some maybe halftime stuffing. Jerry's going to be extra drunk.
I think Jerry starts pouring the Johnny Walker blue at about 8 a.m. on Thanksgiving.
I was going to say Tuesday, on Tuesday. Yeah, so he's definitely going to be lurking.
He might even get down to the sidelines and just stand behind Mike McCarthy like he's going to assassinate him in Warzone. That's my hope, at least, for this game.
I'm going to bet on the Cowboys, I think, which makes me feel like kind of a sucker because seven and a half is a lot of points. Big time sucker energy, and I agree.
So even bigger sucker energy. The fact that we are both going to do it.
Yep. All right.
Let's do Hot C, Cool Throne, then let's get Frank Gore. Frank Gore was awesome in studio.

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Thanksgiving. Alright, hot seat, cool throne, Hank.
My hot seat is the New Jersey Devils. Oh yeah.
So this was, I kind of alluded to it earlier, but it's something I have been thinking about more, just about how long we've lived in New York, which has been a while, and just how bad all of the franchises are the entire time. Decade.
Decade. First decade, the Yankees have never won a World Series.
And then also first decade that no, obviously these are correlated, no New York team franchise, period, won a championship. to blasio and it's like i personally it's not even like i'm against new york we live near the garden or we work near the garden it'd be sick if the knicks i mean the knicks are decent now but it's fun when the knicks are good they haven't been good basically until last year they made a little bit of a run rangers never been good and now the devils we i kind of live over by where the devils are and they're terrible they released jerseys today like new new jerseys and you never want to do the thing where you release a jersey and the entire internet roasts you and uh that's what happened apparently marty brodeur designed them marty yeah marty brodeur did marty brodeur martin brodeur yeah marty it's also just the guys call him this is a, New Jersey.
And it just says Jersey on it. The Jersey just say Jersey with lines down the side.
It looks like the least designed Jersey of all time. When I looked at it, I thought that it was just labeling what it was.
So it wasn't like, okay, this is not my warmup. Yeah, it was a template.
These are not my pajamas. So they were getting roasted.
The other person getting roasted on the internet was Kevin Durant. You see the picture of his legs? Yeah, but disagree.
That was tough. But Kevin Durant came back.
Yeah? Because that guy was being goofy making fun of Kevin Durant's legs. Who? Everyone was making fun of his legs.
The person who started, Patient Zero. I don't know who it was, but then Kevin Durant, I don't know if you saw this.
This is why I fucking love Kevin Dur why I Fucking love Kevin Durant On Twitter where we used to Like think he was being too sensitive now it's just funny Because he doesn't even bother with the burners Anymore he just says I'm about to pull My y'all broke card in a second Fuck y'all I love it I love it And I hope that Adam Silver Never tries to step in to be like Hey guys can you stop swearing so much online Because thoughts occurred to him. Yeah.
But I think he's just going to get smacked if he tries to do it because the players run the NBA. Just let Kevin Durant just continue to fire on all cylinders on Twitter.
But I agree with you, PFT, that Kevin Durant could so easily just ignore this. Instead, he just subtweeted the entire internet.
Yeah. The entire internet was subtweeted with that.'all broke Fuck y'all His ankles were They could use some lotion Yeah a little bit My cool throwing in the AWLs Black Friday if you're listening to this it's Wednesday Tomorrow's Thanksgiving Black Friday is Thanksgiving Eve 12 o'clock We have like I feel like the most new PMT merch we've ever really had On a friday there's a lot of new stuff get all your christmas shopping done uh we got ornaments car stick ornaments and i think we're bringing out the car sticks a limited amount of them got a bunch of new hoodies i have a bunch of new hats i i'm a i'm a new awl yeah you are what is a car stick uh it's an invention i invented in 2016 uh it took a long time to develop the prototype of the stick.
It takes a long time to build them. There's a lot of resources involved, a lot of manual labor.
So we came out with like a few hundred a few years ago. We've been in the factories working.
We've made another like few hundred. So we're going to put those on sale.
Limited time only. If you want one, you got to get one.
It's probably changed your life. That's what most people have said to me that have bought one.
But Hank, I have a question. What is a car stick? It's a stick for your car for when it's stuck inside of your seat.
Yeah? So like is it some kind of crazy device you created? I don't know if you heard this, Big Cat. They've been in the factories and the mines producing these non-stop the last few years.
Yeah, I mean, we had to chop down the tree We had to you know sand them out make sure everything's right Yes Weekends Something stuck. I don't know if you can see me you get something stuck in your seat.
You just take this this car stick Put it down in the crack and then you can like a it's a stick, you know Oh damn, do you have a patent for it it? Yeah, multiple. That's awesome.
Good job, Hank. For the bottom and the top.
One of the greatest inventions of all time. I appreciate that.
Yeah, I mean, again, a lot of hard work goes into these. It's just a fine piece of material.
We also made mini car stick ornaments. So that's just one of the many things on sale, too.
Can you use a mini car stick if you have a Power Wheels?

Ooh.

Yeah, you can.

Sick.

I like that, the mini car stick.

Maybe if you have something stuck in your pocket.

Yeah, there you go.

You can always call it travel size.

Put these on a chain and wear it out.

Oh.

Could be useful.

Or earrings.

Yeah.

Very cool.

I would say 100 out of 100 times you put that on your keys, someone's going to try to fuck

you at a bar.

They see that car stick?

They're like, oh, I didn't know you got down.

It's basically a black card.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Could that stick be used to dip into a substance?

Well, like fun dip?

Yeah, like fun dip. Fun dip.
Yeah. Dunkaroos.
Yeah. For sure.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like Fun Dip? Yeah, like Fun Dip.

Dunkaroos.

Yeah.

For sure.

Again, we have a lot of patents.

There's a lot of uses for it.

So check them out.

Black Friday.

It's really the Swiss Army knife.

Listen, I was trying to talk about the other merch you guys got me going on, CarSticks.

There's a lot of other good stuff, too.

I'll forever love the CarStick.

The merch is so good, three of us are currently wearing the exact same sweatshirt right now. Yeah.
That's true. Legends hoodies, pardon my take, my favorite hoodies, great hats, awesome stuff.
Coming Black Friday, Cyber Monday. All right, PFT, your hot seat, cool throne.
And PFT's book. Oh, and my book.
And his audio book. The book is a lot of buzz out there about Godel versus Obama right now.
The boys are buzzing about it. Again again it's gonna be on sale on friday right hank yes thursday night midnight we just finished the last edits on them it was funny hank was texting me last night and he was sending me messages from his i message and for some reason my phone thought that hank was roger goodell huh you know how like sometimes your phone will be like maybe and then yes who they think it is i was getting texts from that said maybe from Roger Goodell.
I was just, I was so excited. It was an honor.
My hot seat is us. Oh.
We're on the hot seat, boys, because we got nominated for an iHeartRadio podcast award. Did a little research on it because I recall being nominated for this every single year.
Never recall winning one honestly like who cares it's just basically a bunch of people jacking each other off in a room yeah um and they always invite us to go and we're like no no thank you that's okay we don't we don't need to be there um i did some research on it we've been nominated more than any podcast in the history of this awards show and we've never We're the only one that hasn't won. I love it.
By a wide margin. I think we have three more nominations.
They've only been doing this since 2016, 2015. We have three more nominations than anybody else in any category, and we're the only one that hasn't won.
But I bet you all the people that have won have been like, we're going to show up because they just

want to stroke themselves off.

I'm sure if we said we're going to go, we would win.

Every time they ask if we want to go, we're like, no thank you.

We're like, fuck you. We're actively like, suck

my dick. No.
Like, if we said yes, I bet

you they would give it to us because we

give a speech and shit. So, I

looked up what the

other sports podcasts were that we're competing against

this year, and it's, you know, some of the

usuals that we...

I think some of them have won in the past, but it's

Thank you. I looked up what the other sports podcasts were that we're competing against this year.
And it's some of the usuals that we... I think some of them have won in the past, but it's all people that, in my opinion, we should beat.
Right. And then there's another one, which is a podcast, a limited time run, about the importance of women in the Summer Olympics competing for Team USA and how courageous they've been.
So we're fucked. So we're out not winning again we're out uh so we're out again this year so good run boys maybe next year iheart radio if you guys are still a company uh back-to-back sweet 16 appearances we'll be around yep we're really the we're the tom iso we're the gonzaga never got to the final four that's right yeah uh and then my cool throne i'll just say is christmas trees cool thrones christmas We're back, bitches.
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Best time of the year. Okay, my hot seat is fashion, because Kyle Kuzma changed the world with his sweater on Monday night that took the internet by storm.
If you didn't see it, just Google Kyle Kuzma sweater. I think he's trolling because he seems like a guy with a good sense of humor.
And I hope that more guys in the NBA do this because he gets everyone upset and everyone's like, it's gone too far. It was such a ridiculous garment of clothing.
I loved it so, so much. It worked.
We're talking about it right now. Yes, yes.
That's all he had to do. It was one of those things that once it hit the internet, everyone talked about it, and it was just very, very funny.
Do you remember back in 2017 when wearing those knit pussy hats was a thing that people did all the time for some reason? Yes. It looked like he's wearing a giant knit pussy sweater.
Yeah. It's the Lenny Kravitz big scarf too.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was very fashionable. And then...
Jinko sweater. The most ridiculous part was he had these giant sleeves.
And then at one point he had to use a door handle, which he had to take his hands out of those giant sleeves. And you could just tell he felt ridiculous.
That's amazing. You have to take your shirt off to open it.
I love it. I love it.
And then my cool throne is LeBron James because he basically owns the NBA, which we already knew, but the fact that he got suspended one game for salt is fucking ridiculous. And the other guy could spend it too.
Two. And find $900,000.
Listen. That's not like...
Obviously, they get paid a lot of money, money, but 900 grand is a lot. And I, listen, I know I'm biased.
LeBron haters. He looked him dead in the eye and then punched him in the face.
Yes. Like if you watch the replay, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Just think about if it was reversed. Yeah.
Good. Let's do a thought experiment.
If LeBron James got punched in the face. It was bleeding like that.
He'd still be on the ground. True.
True. Good point.
He'd probably just pretend that he was dead. He'd fake his own death.
And then come back three days later and be like, I'm back, guys, but it's now me, ghost LeBron. Look at me.
Succession music. He'd have Russell Wilson.
Dead king. He would definitely pretend that he died and came back.
Yes. But that was, watching that replay is ridiculous.
They said he was washed, dead king. He's back.
And then he would write a letter from dead LeBron to alive LeBron. Alive LeBron.
Alive younger LeBron. Bet you never thought that you'd be able to come back from the dead.
Man, that was crazy. Just a kid from Akron, then you're dead.
A few weeks ago, I thought I was dead. And I was.
So, yeah, he should. If it was LeBron that got hit, you can rest assured that the other guy would be suspended for like seven, eight games.
Maybe the rest of the season. Yeah.
Yeah. I think it's just more outrageous that the other guy got suspended longer.
Yes. Like, yes.
At least give LeBron three games and the other guy two games. Yes.
Ray Rice got suspended longer. Disgusting.
Than LeBron. Yeah.
Think about that. Wow.
Twice as long. Yeah.
That didn't actually work. No, it didn't.
It's actually the opposite. It's the opposite.
Whoops. Yeah.
No, that guy got suspended as long as Ray Rice. Yeah, for getting hit in the face.
Yeah, for getting hit in the face. That's bullshit.
Yep. That's bullshit.
Alright, Billy. My hot seat are fans.
Seth Rollins was leaving the ring in a recent WWE match and a fan out of nowhere just straight up speared him. It was a whole scene.
No one knew if it was actually included in WWE, but it was totally off script. Random fan just ran, speared Seth Rollins.
It's an insane video. Sounds like a work.
It's impossible to know. It's not.
Yeah, it's real. I think it was a fan actually acting rogue, but that's the beauty of wrestling.
I watched it and was like, maybe that was all planned. It's not wrestling, Big Ed.
It's entertainment. That's true.
You're not allowed to use a W word. Seth Rollins didn't break character.
He actually started talking shit to the fan. It was actually crazy.
I say work. I disagree, Billy.
I think that he did break character. I think he got hit.
He got knocked down. He was a little bit embarrassed because the dude ended up getting on top of him.
And then the refs came in, beat the shit out of the guy and kicked him off. Then Rollins stood up and was like, he was mad.
He was like triggered is what he was he was like if it was a work he definitely would have been cooler with how mad he was like he would have had some cool things to say to the guy he would have gestured more emphatically at him but he was just he was mad yes absolutely guy came out of nowhere he did it was um yeah I still I watched it a million times couldn't figure it out could not figure it out uh and then your cool throne my cool throne is michael strahan he's going to space for real just like the area between his front teeth oh there we go he's just the tip another fraud space flight by blue whatever and then uh also there's amazing nil commercials or cool throne nil commercials with josh pascal of uh kentucky hilarious check it out he's doing a dentist commercial and it's amazing okay um jake my hot seat's the dollar store they announced next year majority of items dollar 25 whoa the dollar, as you know it, is done. Sad.

Inflation.

Are they allowed to keep the name?

It's still Dollar Tree, I think, but it should be $1.25 tree.

Yeah.

Yeah, it should be.

I've got an idea.

Open a store right next to dollar stores called the Dollar Store,

but sell things for a dollar.

75 cents.

Put them out of business.

Yeah.

The neighbor's out.

I like that.

And then Cool Throne, some things. Trey Mancini, comeback player of the year after beating cancer.
Yes. Great way to send you into the holiday weekend.
Yes. He deserved that.
Congrats, Trey. Big Ben didn't.
Big Ben? No, I think. MLB.
Oh. Big Ben was up for that one too, right? Don't they do it after the year? I know.
Someone sent me Big Ben post-COVID games, and he's like seven touchdowns, zero interceptions. So he probably has never had COVID.
Big Ben should be, like, forget about comeback player of the year. That's small potatoes.
We're talking Walter Payton man of the year season for Big Ben this year. That would be incredible, wouldn't it? I actually think that if Big Ben wins Walter Payton man of the year, he's going to come back next year just so that he can play for a season with the silhouette, with the patch on his jersey, and so he can show his kids.
Just please, let's get the conversation going. Big Ben hasn't been accused of sexual assault in like nine years.
What else do you want from the guy? It's been a long time. All right, we're going to do Frank Gore.
If you have to work on Friday, listen to Frank Gore and then stop. We will do our Sunday preview after that and then the Bella Twins to end the show.
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Back to part of my take. Here's Frank Gore.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, future Hall of Famer. Appreciate that.
Frank Gore. Appreciate that.
I mean, you're going to be in the Hall of Fame, right? You better be. Thank you.
You deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Put it out there.
Tell him. I better be.
Yes, you better be in the Hall of Fame. When I heard Chris Sims talking that bullshit.
No, that's my man right now. I fired off some mean tweets.
What did he say? No, we talked about it. That's my man right now.
We good. So, many, many times you won a national championship.
You were in the NFL for how many years was it officially? 16 years. But you're not retired yet, right? Not retired.
Boxing now. Yep, boxing.
December 18th. December 18th.
Tampa. Be there.
I'm starting the pay-per-view off me against Dan Williams. I'm excited about it.
I'm trying to do my thing. Now, is boxing a basketball player, is there a level where you're like, I'm just way tougher than you because I've been through it? I can't look at him just as a basketball player even though you know he played as a high level he did he did a great job playing basketball but you know he also did MMA and oh that's what that's why when I'm training I'm thinking about his MMA background so I know he got some type of toughness in him and I know he gonna going to try to come bring it.
And I got to be ready.

Just from my point of view, if you're a running back that's played so many seasons in the NFL,

you know how to get hit.

It's not going to phase you.

But it's different.

Getting hit.

It's different.

You know, me playing in the field, that was my sport.

So I know how to get away from hits. I know how to, you know, like, even when I'm in the holes, like running through the holes,

like I know how to, like, maneuver and, you know, play off angles. And now, you know, it's a new sport.
I'm in the holes, running through the holes, I know how to maneuver and play off angles. And now it's a new sport.
I'm learning. And if he, I got to see, when he throw a one-two, I got to be able to shift it.
You don't miss it. Make him miss.
When was the last time you were actually in a fight? Saturday. I was sparring Saturday.
And it was some good sparring. Okay.
So I'll be ready. I mean, your toughness can never be questioned.
So you hold the NFL record for most games played by a running back, which is incredible, especially in today's NFL. Now, I don't know how to say this because you aren't officially retired.
Right, right, right. The back half of your career, which maybe hasn't even started yet, if you want to go from that, when we get to an NFL where it feels like the running back position is so interchangeable, but you persist, how were you able to do that? For me, loving the game.
For me, working my behind off. For me, if I say I'm going to do it, I'm going to give it my all.
And I didn't care, like, how old I was. You know, when they say, yo, you touch, you get 28, 29, that's running back.
That's old. I never cared about that.
So I always attacked my off-season workout like I always attacked it when I first came in the NFL. And that's why I was able to keep going.
When they first announced that Derrick Henry was going to need foot surgery and that he was going to be out for a while, the very first thing I did was I said, they should sign Frank Gore. Frank Gore should be a Tennessee Titan right now.
The NFL is more fun when you're in it, when you got Gore running through the backfield. Did Vrabel give you a call? No, but I had like three teams who called.

I just didn't want to do it at the time. But I know I still can play the game.
I was just focusing on being around my kids, going to see my kids play football. I just saw how much time I missed out of their life.
You know, and I felt like, you know, I played 16 years, and then I also started boxing, been around boxing, and it kind of kept me okay, you know, like the competing and stuff, so I was fine being around my kids, going to their practice, going to see my son play on Saturdays, and I was enjoying life. Gotcha.
So you played for five different teams, a bunch of different coaches. Who was your favorite coach

and why was it Jim Harbaugh?

Well, I like all my coach. But Jim Harbaugh.

Jim Harbaugh was a, can you cuss here?

Oh, yeah. Say whatever

the fuck you want. Okay.

Coach Harbaugh was a badass, man.

You know, he was all about

football. If you're a pussy,

he's not fucking with you.

We're friends. We've had him on a bunch of times.
If you're a pussy, he's not fucking with you We're friends We've had him on a bunch of times If you're a pussy, he's not fucking with you Yeah, he almost stopped fucking with us at his golf tournament Because we weren't good enough at sports You gotta be good at sports If you're not good at sports He don't want to hear nothing from you You know what I'm saying In the NFL though There was always the thought that Jim Harbaugh would burn guys out because of that mentality. I like it.
I like it. Because when he got there, we started winning games.
We was the badasses in the NFL when he got there. The way he was as a coach, you know what I'm saying, rubbed off on us.
You know, and it made the guys who I probably thought wasn't the baddest, they became a badass. You know what I'm saying? Because they knew if you're not a badass, you wouldn't be in our locker room.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So Coach Harbaugh, he coming to the fight, too.
He called me last week to make sure I'm, you know. Oh, hell yes.
He called me. He called me.
Him and his dad coming. I can't wait to see that in the audience.
Were you in the— I got to tell my boy Malky I got to make sure Coach Harbaugh gets taken care of. Yes, he's got to get taken care of.
He's got to be front row. Yeah.
Were you on the field when he had his little do-to-do with Jim Schwartz? Yeah, I was there. That was one of my favorites.
And that's why we were—I'm very good friends with Bobby Lang. Okay Bobby Lang, who used to be the PR guy for the Niners.
That's my man, too. Now with the Eagles.
Yeah. He was the best.
He broke that thing up. But that was always Harbaugh.
Like, he's going to... So you get in the locker room.
That's what I love about him. Yeah.
So you get in the locker room after that, or you guys are like, yo, coach, what the hell was that? We like it. You know, when you when you football players you you badasses you know what i'm saying and you see our head coach and that's why we was badasses on the field like we was like one of the toughest teams at that time you know we knew that going into the game we're going out physical the next team the other side of the ball like bro i remember one time and um in the playoff we playing car one time in the playoff, we were playing Carolina.

And in the playoff, when we played them there, 2013, man, I mean,

they came out fucking hitting.

So we were like, okay, they're trying to match us.

I said, but, hey, they not like us, man.

This is what we do.

They trying to be us.

So as the game kept going, we kept punching the ass in the mouth,

and we fucking killed them. And you could tell, like, could you tell the exact moment where it's like no they don't want this yeah yeah you know they came out hyped up you know but you know we just kept being us man we punched the ass in the mouth we fucking blew them out i love it it's getting me fired up because there is something about a team when you're watching is if you're rooting for a team that's just more physical than the opponent yeah and you guys guys would fuck up the Green Bay Packers in the playoffs those two butt whoopings but they weren't physical yeah soft I was gonna ask you about that cause those two games it was back to back years right when you had Cap playing quarterback we beat them we beat them once the first game we beat them with Alex Smith up there the first game yep we beat them we fucking killed yeah and then the second that when Alex got hurt, that when Cap came in and we beat them in the playoff when they came to us.
Then a year after, we played them the first game, we blew them out again. It's just that the mindset we had, like, we just felt like nobody wasn't going to be tougher than us.
You know, we had good coaches. They did a great job by working together to put us in great situations.
But our mindset comes from Coach Harbaugh how he was. In that last game where you guys really kicked the shit out of him, would that be more of a clowning or would that be a whooping or a whooping or a beat down? What's the other option? We've been debating this on the show a lot.
What? Shit pumping. Shit pumping.
It's shit pumping, a clowning, a whooping. Whooping.
That was a whooping. That was a whooping.
That was a big time whooping. You guys out-physicaled him for sure.
Yes. One of my favorite things to do is to just look back and think back about some of the teams that you actually played on, the early 2000s University of Miami teams.
Oh, yeah. And if you just look at the roster of guys.
2001, insane is crazy i actually think that that was that was that was one of the best team ever man i think and that's why i say like that's when i tell people help me to be who i am and playing ball going to university of miami at that time because man if you ain't on your if you ain't on your shit, bro, you can get lost in the system because everybody good there. And I'm saying, like, you had to go to class.
You had to fucking work out on time. And practice, man, everybody, hey, if you're not, man, you're going to get knocked out out there.
You know, you got Sean T. You got Vincent Woodford.
You got Vemma, you got DJ Williams. Bro, my freshman year, when we played other opponents, I thought college football was easy because the game felt so slow, bro.
It was so slow because practice was so fast. Like, bro, I remember when I first signed there, and, you know, you go there in the summertime, and we're doing drills.
I mean, fuck. God bless his soul.
I'm going against Chris Campbell. God bless him.
We doing drills, bro. He fucking killing me.
I'm like, oh shit, I think I signed to the wrong school. He was so fast, man.
But at that time, bro, we was fucking rolling, man. If you look at the running backs on that team, it was Clint Portis, McGahee, Frank Gore, and then you mentioned

Najee, Payton. And you mentioned Sean

Taylor, who was the All-State

Running Back of the Year in Florida, right?

And they moved him to safety.

Did he ever want to play? Did he ever get into

rotation at running back? Nah.

He didn't ever want to play, but

I've been knowing Sean since

Little League, you know, in Miami.

We all know each other about playing Park Warner and stuff, so I know about Sean. But me, Sean probably one of the best football players I've ever been around.
Yeah, he's my favorite player. I'm being real, bro.
Like, Sean could play any position on the football field. Like, running back, receiver, linebacker, safety corner.
Anything put him, he's going to be fucking real good at it. And that's my brother, man.
I love him. But yeah, he was a baller.
Yeah. I mean, that team is just, we didn't even mention Ed Reed.
Oh, yeah. It's great.
That's how good the team was, though. Maybe the best player on the entire team.
When you guys, do you guys get back together and do you talk holy shit, this team? I mean, I don't know. I'd have to count, like, who is going to be in the Hall of Fame.
You're going to be in the Hall of Fame. Ed Reed's already in the Hall of Fame.
We've got Andre Johnson. Yeah, Andre Johnson.
We've got Will Fork. Will Fork will probably be in there.
We've got who else? Let me see. But it's going to be a ton of Hall of Famers and also a ton of guys that played a long time in the NFL.

It's really crazy to look back at.

I mean, I don't know.

Who would you say was the best all-around football player on that team?

I said it.

Sean Taylor, yeah.

I'm telling you, man, any position on the football field, bro, he can do it, man.

And at a high level. I'm not just saying just put him there and hope he okay he's gonna be the best at the position do you remember when you first heard uh the seventh floor crew i was in the nfl at the time oh you were yeah but you know greg olsen's a friend yeah that's my man too g-ray man yeah that one great was young man yeah did you ever uh tell ken dorsey not to sleeves? Because those sleeves were – that was like the craziest part about – I think the shirts were and stuff.
Nah. Yeah.
Like Miami was the swaggiest team. All these fucking incredible dudes.
Then Ken Dorsey would come out with these baggy-ass sleeves and be like, come on, man. Well, he'll ball out, dude.
He did. He did.
Is April 12th still Frank Gorday? Oh. Because I saw that the – Tell Yeah, you got a key to the city of Miami, which the key's probably been used for some crazy things.
But if it's Frank Gorday one year, they have to repeat that every year, right? You got to. April 12th, Frank Gorday.
Yeah, that's my day. That's got to be pretty cool, getting the key to a city.
Yeah. I was...
That's been a

blessing, man. But, you know, I've been...

I did it the right way. You know, I

still go back to my community.

I help out. I do...

Like, I do little

camps in the summer. I also

buy the door. I've been doing a

toy giveaway on Christmas

to my neighborhood for kids.

I've been doing that for probably like 12, 13 years. So my name's good in the city, man.
I'm happy that they did give me the key to it. I'm Miami all day.
Who's the guy who hit the absolute hardest? The guy that you knew that like, oh fuck, this Sunday I'm Frank Gore,'m tough but this guy will my mind never never uh my mind only time my mind ever got like that when i was in high school was um i was in the 10th grade and we played killian high man and shantel was in the 10th grade bro man he hit me one time bro i went under the bleachers so the next the next year I didn't know he transferred. So you know before the game, I see a tall guy with his number or something.
I'm like, damn, here you go right there. You know, that was the only time I ever thought like that in football.
Yeah. Yeah, but I never think about, oh, this guy hit.
So that just never was me. So who was the hardest? What's the hardest hit that you ever got then? The one guy.
I would say whoangett, who I respect, who played the game the right way, Cam Chancellor from Seattle. He was a baller, bro.
He set him, Bobby Wagner. Them boys, they played football the right way.
Those are some awesome games, too, Niners and Seahawks. You guys played some legendary games.
So I was like, when I went to the AFC South, I was like, whew. I was happy to get out of the NFC West.
Yes. Especially when we played Seattle.
We used to be banging, man. Yeah.
I want to talk about the Super Bowl real quick. So you scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
Got 100 yards in the Super Bowl, right? Super Bowl champion. Excuse me.
Not a Super Bowl champion. My mistake.
You were leading that. Damn.
It was a good game. No, we're not.
You got fucked. What I was going to say is you got fucked in that game because the lights cut out at halftime.
No. The other way.
Yeah, they came back. It helped us.
The lights went off, and we was getting killed. What did you do at halftime when the lights went out? We was on the sideline.
We was just warming up. We all was talking.
We knew that we was a better team. We were just making a lot of mistakes early on.
We just told ourselves we had to settle down. We settled down and we just came back.
We got down to the last couple seconds. We just didn't run the ball.
I felt like we would have run the ball, I think we would have probably won. Damn.
The Titans should sign you. You should get that.
They got my boy AP, man. I'm cool.
I'm looking forward to December 18th, man. I'm very excited.
I'm blessed. I want to say thanks to my man Malky for coming through for me

because he said he will.

And I told him I wanted to fight.

He wanted to make sure I was serious about it.

But once he saw me serious, he got me a fight.

And I'm just going to try to take advantage of it and have fun with it.

Try to get a win, man.

I had one last question.

It's kind of an awkward question.

I don't really know how to ask it.

But I'm going to ask it.

And we'll see how this goes.

You didn't wear – were you wearing underwear when you played in the NFL? Let's start there, and we'll move from that and try to figure it out. I didn't like that.
You have big fucking balls, dude, like actually big balls that I've seen multiple times because they would just be popping around in your pants. I don't like.

All right.

I just got rid of it.

I said it. I said it.

I said it.

I had it.

It would have been more awkward if he didn't say it.

Listen, people would be mad at me if I didn't say it.

I didn't say it.

I didn't like when.

I'd like to be loose, bro.

Oh, I know.

Very loose.

Do you want to see a tweet of mine from 2014?

Nah, nah.

Pick them out, man.

There it is.

Wow.

I mean, you did.

You played loose, to put it that way.

Yeah, no, people are listening to this interview,

and in the back of their head, they're like,

when is Big Cat going to ask about Frank Gore's balls?

So I did it.

I did it.

And we're done with it.

I feel good that it's been said.

It would have been more awkward if you didn't bring it off.

Trust me.

He would have spent the next week talking about how he should have asked you about your nuts.

That's cool.

All right, so in terms of Frank Gore records, is it the most starts as a running back,

or is it the fact that you have 12 consecutive 1,200-yard season? Which ones are you more proud of? The running back one is nuts. Yeah, but.
241 games played. I'm like, man, I'm blessed with all my comforts, man, because what I had to deal with to get to the NFL, man, was tough, bro.
You know, you got to understand, I go to Miami at the time.

You play as a freshman, you're a badass.

You know, I play.

You know what I'm saying?

I come back thinking, you know, I'm about to be the man because Portis leave.

You know, I tear my knee up.

Boom.

Okay, McGee, he go off.

He go to the NFL.

I get back, you know, and I go ball first five, six games. I tear my knee up again.
Now, you know, now it's like, wow, what's next? You know, after one, people don't make it back. Then you get two, then definitely everybody say I'm done, I'm done.
And for me to overcome that, man, and, you know, keep working and, you know, and get into the NFL and do what I did, man, I'm blessed. I'm happy about all of them because, man, it was hard to get there, man.
So I'm happy about the most games because a lot of people say I was injury prone, say I won't play three years because of my injuries. I'm happy about the, how many yards again? 12.
10 seasons of 1,200 yards or more. I'm happy about that because it lets you know I've been consistent for a long time.
Yeah. It is crazy looking at your career and seeing that.
And people still try to knock me, man. No, that's stupid.
You point them to us. I think you're going to actually...
Because we'll fuck them up. We'll shit pump them.
And I think you're going to have one of those legacies where people in like 20 years will say the name Frank Gore and like real football fans will be like, oh, fuck yeah, he was... Like if you go to a coordinator, defensive coordinator, man, even when I was in fucking 30, what, my last year in fucking New York Jets, bro, they was coming to stop me, bro.
You know what I'm saying? Like, they'll tell me, like, bro, how the fuck you still can play? You know what I'm saying? And that's why I don't care about the outside world who really don't understand the game and know what it takes and know, like, bro, like, man, I was a bad motherfucker, bro you still have you get you have the necklace with a stop sign on it that says gore nah i got um uh no i don't i'm done with that that's that was a good necklace though the rose gold yeah stop sign say gore yeah and so why did i had that in college i had that in college why did the stop sign say gore you know i don't know i just Uh-huh. Because motherfuckers can't stop Gore, right? Right, you're right about that.
That's what you used to tell everybody. No, it's crazy, though, man.
It's crazy, man. I got that in college.
Boy, shout out to my boy, Marky. You know, you.
It's nuts looking. There was a 13-year stretch there where 12 out of 13 years, you started 14 or more games.
Like, it's crazy. For a running back, that's unheard of.
Hard work. Yeah.
Hard work and guard, man. You know, man.
I'm gonna be real, man. Like, after when I had success in college, and me being around Portis them and seeing what they was doing in the league, I'm being real.
I used to look ahead. Oh, man, if Portis can do this, you know what I'm saying? I can't wait.
Instead, he's just focusing on the day, focusing on where I'm at at the time. So I always just look ahead.
I'm ready to get to the NFL, you know, but it wasn't my time. That's why I had to start thinking about the day instead of the future, you know I'm saying and it started helping me out man and just now I just man every time I used to get on the field man I just bust my ass like it might be my last and I've been blessed 16 years in the field man have a great career I had one last question I was just going to ask about your time in Miami when you played there in the NFL Oh I loved that So Adam Gase was your coach there Shout out Adam, that's my dog That's rare, that's a rare shout out I've been known for Since 2007, 2008 So I was talking to Arian Foster yesterday He does a show here at Barstool So I was asking about Adam Gase And he was saying that uh Adam Gase was actually one of his favorite offensive coaches to play for the only weird thing about him was he just used to always talk about Jay Cutler when Jay even like Jay's not around he would just always talk about perfect quarterback how great Jay Cutler was yeah did he ever just talk to you was you ever like hey man you remember Jay Cutler no no he's not nah we We just talk about when he was with us in San Fran, helping out and stuff.
That's my dog, though. I know a lot of people be dogging him, but I think if he gets another shot, he'll probably do better, man.
Yeah. Okay, I have one last question.
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USA! All right, back to part of my take. Deron Williams versus Frank Gore.
Are you going to predict first-round knockout? Nah, I'm just going to go in there and try to do what my coach say.

Because we didn't see film on him, so we got to see what type of movement,

what type of style he is.

Then I go from there.

If it come, it come.

I'm going to get the win.

I'm going to try to get the win my best and get the win. But I people to be like Man this kid Frank Gore This guy got skills You know what I'm saying Alright so my last question What's the weirdest Like Jim Harbaugh story Or like motivation thing He tried to do with the team I mean we've heard a bunch of them He's the best No.
No, this was the funniest, man. Oh, my God.

You know, like, you know, when you win, you play, like, before the games,

you play, like, the highlights.

So, bro, so he'll go to high schools.

Then he got so crazy, he started getting the guys who work for, like, the teams.

So I don't know how he was finding them.

And he was getting the guys who, like our sprint coach when they was in high school. You know, you get some coaches, swear to God, they was a badass, right? Man, he put one of our coaches up there getting his ass killed on the field.
Man, it was still – I won't put the name out because that's my boy. It better not be Jim Tomsu.
Nah, nah, nah. Okay.
That's not bitch. He wouldn't get killed.
Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah, nah.
But hey, man, that shit was,

he had a whole,

it was before,

I think it was before

the Green Bay playoff game too.

Did he ever,

was there ever a moment

where you were like,

is he gonna try to suit up

and play quarterback today?

Oh, he did.

Oh, not, not, not.

But he used to practice, bro.

No, I know, I know.

Prattance, bro.

Yeah?

Yes.

He would run the whole offense?

Bro, he was practice

with the guys, man.

With pads on and everything?

Yes, but he'd have them on the shoulder pads and the helmet with his dickies on and stuff. Yeah.
That's fucking perfect. I mean, he used to always wear cleats and his khakis.
Yeah, yeah. Walking around.
And he's very competitive, man. Yeah.
Yes, bro. He would run the offense? I'm telling you.
How was he? You know. He had his day.
In his head, he's definitely like, I could still get out there and sling it. The real question is, did he put a red jersey on himself, or was he like, if you get to me, you can hit me? No, he had a red jersey.
Oh, no. No, but Coach Harbaugh, my man.
Yeah, we love him, too. He coming to the fight, so I got to tell my boy Mark, he got to try to take care of my man.
Hell yes. All right, well, Frank Gore, thank you.
Sorry I had to ask the balls question. That's cool.
You said it. You played loose.
Did you know it when it was happening? You're like, oh, my balls are on TV right now. You got to understand, people will send it to me on Instagram.
Yeah. I'm like, God damn.
You're like, hey, Frank, here are your balls. It was slow-mo.
When Frank's slow-mo balls would come out, I'd like what are we watching here Oh shit man I like this show right here I told you we'd try to make it a little different Oh man We have to come back on after the fight now Yes Alright love it Frank thank you so much Good luck you're going to be in the Hall you. Yes.
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If you're listening to this on Friday, hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Man, what a game, Tim Boyle versus Andy Dalton.
Incredible. I'm so glad that we took the over and the Lions.
What a fucking shit show. All right.
Let's do some picks. Let's talk about it.
I predicted a bloodbath. I had a bloodbath on Sunday.
Jake, what are the records at? So right now, Hank has a three-and-a-half game lead on Billy, who is now all by himself in the danger spot at second okay uh pft and liam at 23 and 21 and you and i tied for last with the trip with billy let's go rock paper scissors shoot rock paper scissors shoot all right that would be great hype fantastic hype um and bonding yeah big time bonding when yeah remember when you guys went out to dinner talk about your goals yeah talk about your goals your Life goals. Hype.
And bonding. Yeah, big time bonding.
Yeah, remember when you guys went out to dinner? Talk about your goals. Yeah, talk about your goals.
Your life goals. Life goals.
That was a big time dinner. We actually get along very well.
I know. I know.
Billy, can you just, can you, what's one life goal from Jake that you remember him talking about? He wants to announce a Sunday night football game. Wow.
That's a big life goal. That's huge.
Jake, do you want to, is there anything you'd like to share with the class? Oh, yeah. Oh, I was going to save it for next week, but we can say it now.
Why don't we just, because, you know, we're bad at planning things, so let's do it both. Let's say it now and next week.
Okay. So, next week, ESPN+, Mac doubleheader, Friday night, Iona versus Ryder, Sunday afternoon, Manhattan versus Quinnipiac.
Back on the call. First time doing basketball since pre-COVID.
Very exciting. Jake Marsh on the plus.
It's going to be great. Clap it up for Jake.
Everyone better watch. And turn it on on all your streaming platforms so that we can get.
Especially Sunday, right during the witching hour. Now you've got to be watching.
We will. We'll definitely have it on.
Yeah, we will. We'll have it on something.
Wait, what time is it on Sunday? 2 p.m. Yeah, we'll be watching.
Yeah, definitely. We'll have it on one of the TVs.
Wait, is that the... Which game is that? Huh? Uh-huh.
Yeah. Manhattan-Quinnipiac.
Sunday, 2 p.m. Go Cats.
That's better than... Go Bobcats.
Yeah. I'm going to responsibly wager on both of those games.
And Friday night, Rick Pitino. We never said anything bad about him.
Exactly. But if you need some 10 second violation jokes to sprinkle in, I'm happy to provide those for you.
We'll see. If you can tune in, that would be great.
If not, I appreciate it. Everyone fucking tune in.
If you don't tune in, go fuck yourself. There you go.
don't yeah if you don't appreciate it go fuck yourself yeah you're banned there you go you're banned from the podcast yes yes no you're banned from the podcast you're banned for life yeah lifetime banishment from life please tune in looking forward to getting the reps in yes it's gonna be great all right let's do some picks uh let's start with our favorites favorite favorites Hank, why don't you get it going?

Hank's doing well. Hank's the sharpest in the office.

Yep, all my picks are hitting lately.

How many games ahead?

He's crushing it.

He's three and a half on you.

The man can't lose.

The man cannot lose.

On fire.

I might have to tank.

Go back to tanking.

I'm flying too close to the sun. Yeah.
You're in... Are you in second place right now? Yeah.
My favorite are the Bucs. Tom Terrific.
Gronk being back is huge. You guys have been talking about Antonio Brown.
But from my experience, it always has been Gronk. It always will be Gronk.
Him being back last night, you saw how much better they played. And yeah, I just think they're going to have a lot of rest.
Come out. Be the Colts handily.
So that's Bucs at Colts. If the Colts win this game...
It's Bucs two and a half at Colts. Sorry.
I will say, if the Colts win this game, I am officially getting a little nervous about my pinky. Because that would be two very impressive wins in a row.
Oh, they're your pinky team? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.
They started 0-3. I would not be worried about the Colts long term, but they're a tough enough team that they could – They're better than the Texans were that year, I think.
The Texans rattled off nine wins, I think, in a row that year. But, yeah, no, this is – I'm a little nervous.
Let's just say that. I'm a little nervous.
If he doesn't play, then the Colts could win if he does play it's over okay uh liam i'm taking the pats minus six and a half okay i think they've been rolling and everything like says the opposite kind of the hungry dog runs faster with the titans yeah so then i'm flipping that i'm i'm gonna agree with you i'm also on that i think that the titans uh without derrick henry are a big time problem and I was thinking about it because obviously they beat the Rams on Sunday Night Football we all watched that but then you remember that there were two pick sixes involved that greatly helped them I think the Titans are in big time trouble without Derrick Henry and also isn't AJ Brown got hurt in the last game we, obviously. We're taping this on Tuesday.
But they're pretty banged up offensively. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to expect out of the Titans. I really don't.
Because when they play good teams, they're awesome. And then when they play worse teams, they're actually worse than the worst teams are.
So they're playing a good team, so I'm kind of inclined to think that they're going to be good again. Awesome, yeah.
Yeah, I am falling into the classic trap of disrespecting the Titans. Yeah, you are.
It always fucks me in the face. You should remember the Titans.
I should remember the Titans. All right, your favorite.
My favorite is going to be the Atlanta Falcons. Minus five over the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Wait, is that the line? Minus .5, sorry. Minus half.
That's a big not minus .5. But you love them at minus .5.
I would probably take them at minus .5. The Jaguars opened up as one-point favorites.
The Jaguars should not be a favorite against any team, in my opinion. But the Falcons are now favored on the road in Jacksonville.
It's a short trip for them. Florida-Georgia line game of minus a half a point.
And fun stat, right now, all time in the NFL, bird teams against cat teams are exactly 500. Wow.
I think it's 209 to 209 and one. They've tied one game.
Wow. This is going to be the week that it swings in favor of the bird teams.
Wow. That is a hell of a stat.
It is. And it's the only bird-cat matchup? As far as I know this week.
I'm not a zookeeper, but I think so. By the way, I'm switching my pick.
I'm taking the Washington football team minus one. I just realized I'm doing exactly what I always say don't do, and that's disrespecting the Titans.
I'm taking the Washington football team. I'm done with the Seahawks.
I see plus one. What? Looking at Washington.
Yeah, plus one. Oh, God damn it.
The football teams, they're underdogs at home. All right, I'm sticking with the Patriots.
Fuck. All right, go ahead, Billy.
I'm going with Bills minus five and a half. Bills minus five? No, that's the Thursday.
It's on Thursday? Yep. Thanksgiving.
We talked about it. That's okay.
Well, we talked about it two days ago. That's actually great that you picked that because if they didn't cover, that's even better that people are listening right now on Friday.
Okay. Or it's like a Back to the Future thing where he got the almanac and he's like, he knew it.
Can I still count it? No. with i went with the patriots yeah i'll take them okay so billy's also on the patriots i don't think i don't like what billy's doing right now isn't that what he said in the integrity of the competition yeah he's just picking things that other people pick so he doesn't i'll give you a second jake you do your pick billy look at the board again i'm going with the Packers minus one at home against the Rams.

Rogers, probably mad.

Lost last week. Can't see him losing back to back.

Always mad. Because he's just a

mad guy who can't find happiness.

So minus one at home. Okay.

Billy, you have all the way until we come back to

your underdog. Okay? So I'm giving you the

full turnaround. Alright.

Go ahead, Hank. My

underdog is the Pittsburgh

Steelers. Okay.

I have that too.

Spicy. They got a lot

of fight. Wait.

Are you going to bet on them against Spread or Moneyline?

Moneyline, obviously.

That's the thing. You guys

take an underdog and we talk

we're not going back to the pass. It's over.

I'm taking the Steelers. We have to keep moving forward over i'm taking the steelers we have to keep i'm taking the steelers i am

four and a half against the bangles at the bangles no love lost between these two teams i was actually rivalry i was looking at maybe doing an alternate spread like steelers minus three that's a group Pat. No.

And Pat Friar moved to score.

Yeah. Four touchdowns.

Again. It's a group bet.
No, it's from the Indiana. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
And Pat Fryer moved to score. Yeah.
Four touchdowns. Again, whatever.
Whatever, whatever, whatever. Hank, rank your top.
Rank the AFC North quarterbacks. Ooh.
Joe Burrow. Mm-hmm.
Baker. Whoa.
You didn't want to say Baker, you did big ben no no wait wait lamar

lamar joe burrow baker big ben i would say about that i would want big ben after covid

no big ben sucks i know i would put lamar with diarrhea ahead of big ben after covid

and then big ben before covid ahead of lamar without diarrhea. Does that make sense? Yes.
Yes. Okay.
Big Ben post-COVID is a monster. He is.
Very, very good. All right, Bubba, you're also taking the Steelers? Yep.
Sounds like a group bet. Sounds like the makings of a group bet.
Okay, I'm going to take the Washington football team. Oh, they're going to take the Steelers.
Nope. I'm also taking the Washington football team.
Nope, God help me. Fuck the Seahawks.
God help me. I think that we're like 1-17 in Monday Night Football since 1998.
Not a great record, admittedly. But what they don't tell you is that we beat the Steelers on a Monday night,

but it just technically wasn't Monday night football. That's right.
That's right. So, you know, fuck you, calendar.
But, yeah, I think I have to ride this football team. I think that they're playing really well, and I think that the Seahawks are just a miserable football team filled with has-beens and losers.
The Seahawks are canceled until Russell Wilson proves that he's not injured. I'm done thinking that the medical miracle and all the hype videos, I'm sick of the Seahawks.
Because they are a classic team that they've been good for so long that if I don't quit them, cold turkey, they will just stick around in my head being like, well, they're good. They have to be good.
It's important to know when to end this relationship. Yeah.
And the Seahawks stink. And more so than the fact that they stink is that they're boring when they stink.
And so I was actually thinking about going down to this game because when am I going to get another chance to see the football team play? Because it's a Monday night game. But then I was like, wait, why am I going to do that to myself? I hate watching the Seahawks on television.
It's probably way worse in person. And then I have to go to Landover.
Excuse me, Raujohn. Yeah, and also Cyber Monday.
That's really why you didn't go. And also Cyber Monday.
Because I knew that I had to be here. Yeah.
But I wanted to be here. Me just saying that right now was just a reminder, but you already did.
You didn't need a reminder. I wanted to be here, but I was being pulled away.
But now it's good to just remind myself what's really important, that's being here with you guys. Yes.
Billy, your underdog and your favorite. So Jets plus two and a half for my underdog.
Okay. I'm going Falcons by minus a half point.
I love it. Is my favorite.
Minus the Jags. Minus five.
Minus .5. Minus .5.
Yeah. Okay, so that's a bird.
Quick quiz, Billy. Do you know what PFT's favorite pick was? You also took the Falcons? Yeah.
Okay, perfect. And PFT's computer model has the Falcons up to, he would take them as a five-point favorite.
That's how good his computer model is. No, it's the deep numbers.
Yeah. Just in my head, only the Cowboys and Lions can play on Thanksgiving.
Yeah, adding the third game, yes. That's what leads me out.
I wish they had kept that as a rivalry, Egg Bowl, Texas-Texas A&M. I agree with you.
Adding that, but that's also,'s also the NFL. If there's a slot, they're going to take it.
I think that's their motto. Right on the door.
If I see a slip, I'm going to fill it. Yeah, slot, let me put myself in it.
I'm going to dive right in. Alright, your underdog, Jake.
I'm taking the Dolphins plus one and a half at home against the Panthers. Dolphins, 500 Christmas.
See you there. Oh, Hank's deep numbers have just had a malfunction.
Because he was like, how are the Dolphins plus one and a half against the Panthers? Hammer time, Hank. Yeah.
I saw that face. That was the face of a guy who's like, what? I think I realized what a lot of people don't like about Tua oh do tell besides the fact that they don't watch the All-22 yeah I love him his eye black is too big his eye black is too big and I don't Billy as a former college athlete maybe you can tell me about how this affects the quarterback position but I feel like if the eye black was too big doesn't just suck all the light in too much your eyes it what might get into your eyes the eye black might get into his eyes no but does he have the tape or does he have the actual no he does a he's cross-eyed he does the giant crosses that's right on each side but i guess i'm always curious how eye black works because in my limited experience with eye black i can't really tell the difference between when i'm wearing it and when i'm not wearing it i just i feel like it's a placebo effect sometimes but then again if it's real and you're like to a with a shitload of i black on could you use too much would that affect you in a bad way i actually don't get the science of i black i don't either it makes no sense i think it just looks cool yeah That's what I thought.
I mean get the science of eye black. I don't either.
It makes no sense. I think it just looks cool.

That's what I thought.

I mean, I always wore it, so I don't know if there was a difference.

Did you do the actual eye black, or did you do the

band-aid strips that you'd stick on?

I used the actual eye black. Good.

Is it like a positional thing? Like, quarterbacks

wear it, tight ends don't wear it? No, like

D-Lineman always just go nuts

with it for some reason. Oh, like Lattimore in the program.
Yeah, or like Justin Trudeau. Yes, really go crazy with it.
Got out of hand. He thought he had to go out there and play.
He thought he was filling the A-gap. The CFL is different.
Alright. Jake, you went with your underdog Hank, we're on the overs the overs.
We're on the overs. Yeah, this is a weird slate because it's whenever we lose those three games on Thanksgiving, then you get to Sunday.
You're like, wait, where are all the games? And there's a few really, really good games and then some really, really bad games. This is my I don't understand why the line is so low, so I'm taking the over.
If you, you know, anytime, anyplace in the last 10 years, if you said it's going to be Matt Stafford versus Aaron Rodgers, you're going to think it's going to be a lot of points. I would have said definitely more than 50 points, so the fact that the Rams and Packers is over 48 seems low to me, so I'm taking it.
I like it. Love it.
You know what you just did? You just used Billy's method. You did a Billy.
That was Billy's method. That was genius.
The Billy football. I mean, that's how it goes.
Yes. All right.
I'm excited for that game. Seems like a shootout, right? On paper.
We're going to find out if the Rams are really frauds or not. Yeah.
Because, quick reminder, the Rams won the Week 3 Super Bowl against the Bucs, and then since then they have not beaten any good teams. So, yeah.
Chip on their shoulder. Yeah.
Since they won the Week 3 Super Bowl, they beat the Seahawks, the Giants, the Lions, and the Texans. Those are some bad teams.
Those are four really bad teams. Liam, you're over.
I'm doing Falcons, Jags over 46.5. I just think it's going to be close.
Do you think it's going to be a bird or a cat? It's an all-time question. I don't know.
Wait, what is it? Bird Burger Cats. 209 to 209.

Falcon and Jaguar.

I took the over.

I don't care.

I hope it's a tie.

I don't know.

If the season ended Sunday night, one of those two animals would come out victorious.

Mm-hmm.

PFT, you're over.

I'm going to take the Panthers-Dolphins over, 42 and a half, because these teams stink,

but I think they stink in a way that their defenses, they can exploit each other.

They deserve each other.

Yes.

Does that make sense?

Complimentary stink.

Yeah, complimentary stink.

So, yeah, 42.5, that's just not a lot of points.

My projected number is 46.

All right, my over, I'm going to take Vikings 49ers.

Vikings 49ers over 48.

Is that right, Jake?

Yes.

Okay, over 48.

I feel like there's going to be a lot of points in that game. Who did you have the over on last week, Big Cat?

I'll see you, Jake. Did you do that to hurt my feelings? Because it did.
No, no. I forgot.
Troy Aikman had that over. Yes.
But I don't know if you're the same. I was asking because I thought for some reason you took the Vikings over last week also.
No. But that happens to me frequently where I'll take an over and then one of the teams will absolutely deliver for me so I just follow that.
I follow that team around. You're going to reward excellence.
Also that's the reminder if any AWLs are watching sports this weekend in the open the broadcaster says there's going to be fireworks. Remind us to take the under.
Yes, yes. The Troy Akeball.

Yes.

All right, Billy, you're over.

Eagles-Giants, 46.

Don't love it.

Are you trying to win this one?

No.

Okay, good.

Then that's a great pick.

Well, the thing is what happens is I'm like,

this is totally not going to be an over.

And then I say, but I'm not trying to win this one,

so I pick it, then it wins.

Okay. Wait, so I like that.
So are you trying. I've thought about it long enough.
I like it. Yeah, I don't think we need to dissect it any further.
Blown coverages. Yes.
College football plays. Exactly.
Yes. New offensive, new play caller for the Giants.
Freddie Kitchens. Freddie Kitchens, a lot of new shit.
Hell yes, Freddie Kitchens. Running the draw on fourth and long.
Just weird shit. I love that guy so much.
I don't know. NFC beast matchup.
I think that these teams play each other pretty tough usually. Know each other.
Familiarity. They are, yeah.
All right. Jake, you're over.
I'm taking Steelers-Bengals over 45 and a half. I feel like he's been scoring a lot.
Yeah. Big Ben, they can hang with him.
Post-COVID? Yeah, 7-0, right? Yeah. No, it was seven touchdowns, zero interceptions.
I think it's only happened twice. I don't think Big Ben hasn't had it.
He's got to get it again. He's had COVID twice.
Twice. Not seven.
He's working on it. Yeah.
And my theory is he has never had COVID. He just rests extra when he pretends he has COVID, and then he comes back and plays well.
He gets the at-home test, and it's really just a pregnancy test. He pisses on it and then writes down, you have COVID again.
COVID. COVID.
All right, under, wrapping it up. Unders.
Patriots, Titans, no Derrick Henry, under 44.5. Belichick punts on fourth and one and shit.
These teams know each other? These teams know each other. Defensive battle.
Vrabel. Patriots play conservatively.
I like the under. Vrabel just finds a loophole and stops the clock for seven minutes.
Also, take it for what it's worth. I'm 10-1 on unders in these picks.
No big deal. Due for a regression for sure, but 10-1.
No, hey, give yourself credit. 10-1.
The under king. I'm not bragging.
I'm just stating facts. 10-1.
Fact or fiction, that's a fact. So that means all your other picks you're not good in.

No, I mean, I'm good in all of them.

Well, that can't possibly be true.

I think I'm good in the under...

The only one I'm negative in, take a guess.

Favorites.

Yep.

Yeah.

You weren't born for that life.

I do love Hank's new segment, Factor Fiction.

Factor Fiction.

Fiction.

Wait, does it work like that? No, no, no. I'm saying Factor Fiction.
That's a fact. No, give me fiction? Fact or fiction.
Ah, fiction. Wait, does it work like that? No, no, no.
I'm saying fact or fiction. No, give me fiction.
Give me fiction. No, I'm saying fiction.
I'm really bad at picking unders. Fact.
Fact. Fiction.
Oh! Damn it. I have no idea what just happened.
We lost. Fact or fiction? Damn it.
right, Bubba, you're under.

Doing the Eagles-Giants under 46.

So fading Billy, but I guess with him, if he's trying to lose it.

So I don't know.

I was trying to think of where it was confused.

Who the fuck knows? But, yeah, I don't see the Giants just in turmoil.

I don't see them scoring a lot.

Okay.

PFT.

I'm going to take the Browns-Ravens under 45 and a half. It's in Baltimore.
It's going to be at night. The Ravens are probably going to be wearing their black uniforms.
Lamar Jackson might still have diarrhea. I don't know.
But most importantly, this is a uniform game. The Browns playing against the Ravens at night is an under game.
Make no mistake about it.

It's like a 13 to 10 game.

Yep.

That's what I have envisioned.

I have the Ravens defense flying around the ball.

I have them swarming.

I have the Browns offense just like trying and trying and trying to establish the run.

Never really getting it off the ground.

And then I have...

Or just always keeping it on the ground.

Never getting the ground game off the ground.

Got it.

These are all, by the way, for people who are saying like, how does BFD know this? These are models. It's my model.
Yeah. I mean, duh.
I've watched enough Ravens night games to know that there's no points that get scored. Yes.
Justin Tucker, long field goal. Yeah, easy under.
I think Vegas right now has them at 45.5. My simulated numbers have it at 37.
Ooh, I like that. That's a huge edge.
Big swing. Huge edge.
All right, I'm going to take the Chargers-Broncos under 47.5. I feel like the Broncos off a bye.
Vic Fangio cooks something up. Chargers, everyone's going to overreact to that shootout.
The Chargers are weird because they either play in a game, and they're good.

They're not great.

They're good.

But they either play in games that are boring and ugly or they play in these shootout games like the Browns game,

like the Steelers game.

They played in a couple of those where it's very, very fun, electric.

And then they played in, I can't remember which, what game?

Oh, the Cowboys game week two was terrible.

That was a fucked up game. I blame the officials.
That was a fucked up game. And then there was another one that they played that was very, very boring.
I can't remember which one. Oh, the Ravens game they lost where they scored six points.
Yeah. So give me the under in that one, 47 and a half.
It says 47 here. Okay.
47 and a half. I like it even more at 47.
That means I've already moved the line. Someone's listening to us.
Mentally.

I just don't like the idea of taking a Broncos over this year.

Right.

Right.

I just can't do it.

Right.

Teddy Bridgewater, come on.

Billy.

Tampa Bay Colts 51 and a half for the over.

This is another one where you look at it.

Oh, yeah, under. Under.

Yeah, yeah.

This is one you look at and you're like, oh, this is an over,

but I'm feeling like it's going to be an under.

Okay.

Not trying to win it because my friend.

But, yeah.

But if you're like, oh, this is an over, but I'm feeling like it's going to be an under. Okay.
Not trying to win it, but it's going to win. What about the roof? How does the roof affect your model? The roof actually, depth perception.
It's like shooting in a dome. Yeah.
Is it easier for a receiver to catch a bomb, an absolute bomb, if the roof is open or if it's closed? Probably open. Yeah, I agree.
I'd agree. Dome throws it off.
Yeah. All right, Jake, wrap us up.
We're wrapping up with Atlanta-Jacksonville under 46.5. Oh, we're all over this game.
So, opposite Liam. We got a great read on this game as a podcast.
It streams 13-9. Ooh, calling your shot.
Yeah, we'll see. That wouldn't be a gami.
No way. No shot.
No shot. That was actually, I feel stupid for asking.
I'm sorry. No, call me stupid.
No, you're not stupid. No, that was a stupid question.
No. Any games we missed? I think we hit all of them.
I got a quick question. Yeah, we did.
About our friend Taylor Luan. Yeah.
So, does anybody call him the dad of Nashville? I think he calls himself that on the Bussin podcast. Okay.
I didn't know that because I just saw a tweet from Adam Schefter saying that Taylor was on his podcast and he referred to him as the dad of Nashville, Taylor Luan. Yes.
I didn't know if that was like Adam Schefter handing out nicknames like Mr. Editor again.
Sounds like you're not one of the boys. Oh, is that true? No, I am a boy.
I'm a big fan of the boys. Are you a son of a boy dad? I'm not a boy.
I'm a fan of the boys. Are you a fan of the sons? I'm a fan of the boys.
I'm a boy. And I'm a son of a boy dad.
I think we're all sons of boy dads. Right.

No, the sons of boy dads

fans are their sons, so you're

the son of a son of a boy dad. So they're the fathers?

Yes. Are they doing the Gluck Gluck?

9,000? That's their goal,

I think. Trying to get on that level.

So who's the mom of Nashville? Get that spotty

money? That's what I need to know.

The mom of Nashville, Taylor Swift. So two Taylors.
Taylor and Taylor. Taylor and Taylor.
Love it. You love it.
All right. Anything else? Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving.
Obviously, no show Friday. You're listening to this right now, either on Wednesday or Friday.
We will be back, obviously, on Monday. Anything else? Good luck with all the picks.

Good luck with everything. Rivalry week.

Stay safe. How do we feel about

pies? Give me a pie ranking.

Okay, real quick. I think pumpkin pie

is trash. I wouldn't say

it's trash. I don't like it.
Pumpkin pie is

number three on my list. Apple.

Apple's number

tied for third. Okay.

Blueberry? Blueberry is number two.

Peach.

Peach is number five.

Wow.

I still like it.

I like all pies.

Pecan is number four.

Okay.

Still love it.

Cream.

Cream?

You dog.

PFT.

That's your number one, isn't it?

I was going to say sweet potato.

Mud.

Same thing.

I'd like to change mine to cream. Yes.
Boom. Let the record show.
Yeah. All right.
Before we get, we got the Bella Twins as well. So we're going to do the Bella Twins right now.
A little extra bonus interview. Great to have them both on this time.
Guys love twins. Yeah.
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Now here's the Bella Twins.

And now for something completely different.

Okay, we now welcome on very special guests.

It is Nikki and Brie Bella, the Bella Twins.

We've had Nikki on.

Yeah, that's right.

Very excited to have both of you on.

Thank you.

The podcast is back. The Bella's podcast is back.
It came back. Was it season two? Season two.
Yeah, season two. Season two.
It's been back for three weeks now, right? Three weeks. Who's the big interview in season two? So we just had Val from Dancing with the Stars on, but we're actually interviewing Tyler Cameron, which I think people will be excited about.
We had my husband, Brian Danielson, on, talking about AEW. But we record every week.
Yeah, we don't do a season of where we do everything up front. So every week, it's what we're feeling, who we want to bring on, and connect with.
Okay, so who out of the two of you is is like more like i don't really want to record this week gosh i feel like lately it's been you nicole but only because whoa wait excuse me but only because it's like those tiktoks when they're like when you close your eyes you have to point yeah person who's who's who gets the most drunk and i were just talking just talking about that. We're like, how do you even have time to be like...
Yeah. I'm like, I'm a mom.
I don't get fucking time for that. But just because she's...
Artem's been doing Dancing with the Stars and she's been on her own with Mateo, so she's been super tired. And so it's just been hard work.
So this is all news to me. This is good.
I like this. Let's get it out.
Let's get it out. I have not complained.
Really? I mean, I show up, so obviously I show up looking like shit. I guess it's maybe not your style of complaint.
Obviously, there maybe hasn't been any complaining from your perspective, but it sounds like if you show up to do the job, that's good enough. If you're a new mom and you you show up for work I feel like that's enough to just get a tip of the hat I mean I should get high fives and props Yes Not get a hater to my right I have two kids Working moms deserve all the credit in the world Don't we? That's how I feel It's a big big deal And our men travel a lot So like working moms who are home a lot on their own You know I was in couples therapy the other day Oh with your sister? No but we need it We'll do it for you right now With my fiance And you know I was so happy because Our life coach was like You know you have to sometimes recognize Not only a career woman because of the pressures and just trying to make it where men make it.
But then moms have a lot of pressures. Yes.
And he goes, so then when you have a career mom, the pressures that she has to deal with are just enormous. And I was like, keep going.
There's this weird thing and it's's probably some societal thing that everyone subconsciously doesn't even realize is going on. But moms, when they're away from their kids, I feel like there's so much more pressure to be home and be with the kids and missing moments.
When I travel, I miss my kids a lot, but it just feels different. It's not right.
It's not fair. Right.
So I know how hard it must be for moms. Yeah, mom guilt is like.
Yeah, that's it. Mom guilt.
The mom guilt is crazy. And it's, like, real.
But I think it's your kids, too, at young ages. I don't know if you feel this with your son.
And daughter. And daughter.
Okay, so you're like me. Boy and girl.
Are they really attached to your wife at the young ages You know what I mean like super needy for mom Yeah yes definitely And that's how our kids are with us So it makes us when we leave It's just like oh but they just always really want mom to do this They're gonna be so sad Yeah there's definitely There's definitely a vibe that mom is always like The fixer of everything Boo boos and all that stuff Were either of you guys hoping for twins? I was Does it run in the family? No, we're identical so it's like an accident Where the age just happens to split Yeah, I don't want to pop them out again Like I've done it once, I don't want to experience again So I was hoping for twins to get like two out of the way on a one-shot deal But But I don't, I mean, your parents could probably speak to it. Like, I don't understand how people have twins and deal with two babies like at the same exact time.
Right. That's actually so true.
Especially when they're your first. Yeah, it's crazy.
I see people with twins. I'm like, how the fuck do you do this? I think I would rather have twins.
It's like you're done with diapers at the end of it you don't have to carry around a diaper bag for you know four years yeah so you go through hell like the first year and then well yeah first two are pretty tough yeah yeah yeah even though it's like for me now it's like three and a jurors and then it's like the fucking fours like my daughter's four and a half and how she speaks to me i'm like what did you just say like it's crazy well i saw i saw i uh i think it was a tiktok or maybe on instagram where someone was basically you know mocking how everyone deals with children in society where that's like oh wait for the twos it's gonna be the worst wait for fives wait till they're teenagers and then when they and then like when they go off to college it's like you gotta cherish every moment how'd you let it so fast? Like, fuck you. You told me that every year was going to suck.
Yeah. That's actually so true.
Yes, yes. So my first real question, I saw, I've been watching some of your podcasts, the Bella Army.
Bella Army versus the Swifties. Do you guys have a chance? I think so.
I know. Yeah.
You think so? I don't know. I think that's a no.
What's your emoji? Do you have like a scarf or what is it? See, you don't even have an emoji. You guys are relaxed.
But that's when you have an army like we do. We don't need an emoji.
I know. Why don't we have an emoji? You need an emoji.
You need an emoji. A bell.
It should be a bell. Oh, yes.
Or two. I think there's a twin emoji.
Oh, yeah. The bell and then the twin.
Okay, let's go. I wish we could make up our own emoji.
No, I think you guys are fucked by the Swifties. The Swifties are...
I don't know. Have you seen Bella Army? Then who can we take down? I feel like the Bella Army...
Well, Swifties, though. They are pretty...
They're pretty crazy. The Swifties are nuts.
I'm scared. It's the craziest women in America.
And the guys who are in the Swiftie Army are actually crazier than her female fans. You're going to get it.
I didn't say that. I want to be on the record.
That was PFT. You said they're the craziest women in America.
No, I am a Swiftie. As a Swiftie, I'm allowed to say that.
Yeah, right? Give her scarf back, Jake. Swiftie is Taylor Swift's crew.
Yes. Oh, my gosh, Brie.
That was embarrassing, Brie. Was that? What's your favorite Taylor Swift?

That was very embarrassing, Brie.

I really like the soundtrack. What's it

called? One? No, I like the one she

just did with... The Red.
No, Red.

Taylor's version. I liked a lot of this.

Have you guys thought about doing that? Like doing

all your best wrestling moments?

Redoing them so Vince

doesn't own them anymore?

Oh. Yeah.

That's like a Swiftie movie. Yeah.
Make some NFTs out of it. I was going to say NFTs.
Why not? Rename Taylor's version. Yeah.
That way you get the Swifty army buying your shit, too. There you go.
The Bella army, they grow. They grow every week.
They do grow every week. They're hardcore.
And we're worldwide. I mean, Swifties are too.
But there's something different about the Bell Army. So what country have you guys traveled to where you're like, whoa, we're huge here? I was like, I'll admit, when we went to South America and we came off the plane into baggage claim, it was like almost a Rolling Stone moment.
Really? Yes. I was mind blown.
Wow. and in south america of course i was like yeah you know like i get it like we're going here to wrestle and all that but i did not know what we were walking into yeah singapore too i was like i mean always japan of course in those areas um but like singapore had shocked me and i think certain parts of australia yeah i mean that UK is always amazing It's gotta be a very cool moment Cause like we We've had those moments But it's always been in the US Where it's like We'll go somewhere We're like whoa This is kinda cool We're big in Buffalo Crazy I don't think if we went to like If we went to like I don't know Uruguay I don't think there'd be people Waiting for us I wonder if there's like A weird country That has a disproportionately high percentage of award-winning listeners.
Or Bella Army. Yeah, maybe Canada.
Yeah, the Bella Army. I could see...
India. India, that's right.
India, yeah. We've talked a lot of cricket.
Yeah, that is. We've talked a lot of cricket.
We have talked a lot of cricket. A shitload of cricket.
I have something I have to get off my chest, something that irritates me a little bit about you guys. I'm not sure if we brought it up with you when we interviewed you in you in california but what's the deal with sharing a twitter account you did bring it up yeah it's strange it's like the mccordy can i confess something i tell my sister all the time just take twitter i don't even have the twitter app just take she doesn't even have it on her phone so you have it you are actually i'm the i'm the bell so i just go put nikki bell i don't care.
No, but I wanted to. So WWE now owns that, don't they? There was something where I tried.
I wanted it to be Nikki Bella. We freed Odell.
Oh, you guys did? We'll free you. Okay, let's get free.
Have you guys ever sneezed around Vince McMahon? Have you sneezed? No, because you know how it's about him not liking germs. Oh, yeah.
No, we all know doesn't so we wouldn't sneeze oh my gosh so he is he is very intimidating but there's moments where you're like whoa like this is uncle vince like really sweet and you feel comfortable and you're having like this deep great conversation with him he's actually amazing to have a conversation with i think it's more all of us who get intimidated by him because it's vince mcmahon right so he's like more than just a boss and then when you actually get the courage to go talk to him and you're sitting and talking with him all of a sudden you're like that was so easy and that was also such a great conversation and so much better for my character why haven't i why haven't i done this sooner right and so it's it's a weird thing yeah what's the best way to get his attention? Does it have to be in an office type environment? Like schedule a meeting with him? If you need to have a heart to heart. Get the crowd to chant your name really loud.
No, I come back and he's like, yeah. Make him a lot of money.
Let's talk right now. Actually, it's crazy because we always found the best time to talk to him is when the show's almost about to go on because the show's already written everything's when all the creative meetings are done that's a little bit of the eye of the storm like the storm's going but there's just this calmness you kind of know that time and that's when you go talk to him and you get his full attention have you ever gotten in trouble with him like where you did something you knew that like maybe you fucked up yeah i'm gonna get this call soon.
There's a couple of times where I, we got,

I felt like yelled at.

Yeah.

And it was just like,

I mean,

you think when you get yelled at,

you're like,

I don't know.

We might've been in our late twenties. And all of a sudden you felt like a five-year-old.

Like,

you're just like,

whoa,

I'm going to timeout.

Like,

I'm grounded.

This sucks.

Yeah.

It's critical parent on you.

Yeah.

And you just like,

yeah.

Yeah.

It takes you back. You guys both got inducted to the hall of fame right We did Hall of famers baby So did you get like a jacket Or something or anything Rings Huge rings Rings Why aren't you wearing them And plaques Because people like to steal them You have to be careful We were in New York I would have stolen it We heard about the streets of New York We're like we're not bringing these Where you guys live San Diego right No Napa Valley now Oh Oh yeah you guys have wine too We're like, we're not bringing these.
Where you guys live? San Diego, right? No. Napa Valley, now.
Oh, yeah. You guys have wine, too.
Now, winemaking. Do you guys just get to drink all the wine? I would actually want to stomp the grapes.
I think that'd be the fun part. You know what? We've stomped grapes before.
You have? It's like the best. I love the feeling of stomping grapes.
It's just so cool. I feel like, not to make it a foot fetish thing, but wouldn't it help the Bella Twins wine? No, the wine sales of these were smashed by our feet.
And maybe a picture of your feet on the bottle. There'd be some weirdos out there.
I'm just giving you guys a million dollar idea. You're on to something be a special release that is way creepier is there like national is there a hashtag national foot day no there's some big time feet creepers out there you guys could really hammer that market we're on one website the feetpedia or whatever who else do we have that's so bad there's just one website.
The Feetpedia or whatever? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Who else do we have that was on that? Oh, that's so bad. There's just one guy who just, I think, runs the whole thing.
He scours the internet and he just takes screenshots of everyone's feet. But I think some of them take it on the red carpets, some of the photographers, and they sell them.
Oh, interesting. What? You haven't seen the whole site of celebrity feet? No.
Oh, yeah, girl. You're on there with some Zoom dance.
Oh, yeah. Zoom dance.
Show action. You should definitely have wine that was stomped with your feet.
Yeah. You could even do like a special cabernet, special run.
Toe van yawn. Yeah, there you go.
Special run. Yeah.
Yeah. Pictures of your feet stomping the grape.
And then do merch after. Yeah.
Feet on like white t-shirts. Yes.
There you go. Tons of money that you guys can be making So wait how often Does a new crop of the wine come out Oh gosh So we're bottling up our Chardonnay December 9th And then in January We're bottling up some red Is it like a big day You go out there and it's like Alright all right, let's go, guys.
We're bottling it. Well, harvest just ended.
Harvest is big. So we pick the grapes.
And then they will get processed and sit in the barrels for a while, depending what vintage, however long we want them to sit in for. And then the bottling day comes.
And then that's like... Bottling day sounds fun.
Bottling day is just glorious. It's amazing.
How has global warming hurt your wine business? It's actually hurting Napa Valley a lot. That was a joke of a question, but you can answer it.
But it is. We literally have fire seasons now.
And the droughts. So where's the next Napa Valley? Sonoma's actually kind of where it's at.
No, Sonoma's totally. The fires are like going.
Coombsville is the sleeper. Coombsville.
Coombsville. But Spain is...
Outside of Napa. Outside Napa.
But Spain is where they're trying to grow grapes. And I think South America too.
They're like, there's some good wines coming out of there and they feel like with global warming, they're going to be able to do a lot out of there. But it's just hard because Napa Valley...
Yeah, there's something about it last time last time i was there i went on a wine tour and we all forgot to eat and then like uh my friend actually ended up breaking up with his girlfriend on the bus oh my god yeah no it was a whole fucking scene it was right before a wedding too oh so then we had to go to the wedding and they were like what was he still broken no they kind of got back together but we all were like that, that was weird. What did he break up with her about? I don't know.
We were all so, Did they cry? Was it so dramatic? People were puking. It was like a whole fucking thing.
Oh my God. We went to four different wineries and just never ate.
Oh, that's terrible. And by the fourth one, we were like, wait, this was a mistake.
And people were just blacked out. Oh my God.
I feel like getting wine drunk is a little bit messier sometimes than getting just whiskey drunk. And not eating? Whiskey drunk, you just get into a fight with somebody

and you just yell, take your shirt off.

Wine, it's like you're throwing up,

your lips, your teeth are all red.

And everyone's crying.

It's a way more emotional.

It is so emotional.

And then you get a massive hangover the next day.

I mean, Brie mode over here,

when she gets wine drunk,

she just gets wine drunk.

I like Brie mode. Tell me about Brie mode.
Oh, Brie mode. Let's talk about Brie mode.
Playing Brie. Alter ego that comes out.
But what happens is, I don't know what happens. It's like, I feel like I'm fine.
Like, I have a couple glasses of wine. But then next thing you know, I just feel like I transform into someone else.
And I never know when. It's like a sleeper.
I don't know when it happens. It just comes.
So you just speak speak your mind You can't control it Are you telling people facts She dances Oh that was so good It's so good You're a happy drunk I'm actually very happy She might bite you No I don't bite anymore You don't bite anymore We used to bite people Like last week Random people Let's stop there So with the biting It feels like it had to reach a point Where you really bit somebody That you shouldn't have bit Where're like, okay No more biting someone had to get a tetanus shot Yeah, yeah, like I thought I was gonna be like sued Like I got really scared. I was like, oh shit.
There goes my life Happy drunk as long as a happy drunk. Yeah, no one wants no.
Yeah, total happy drunk, but you like to wrestle people But it's like a fun way. We showed up to someone's birthday party and we literally used the memes like Miley Cyrus on the wrecking ball.
Because we came into this birthday party two hours late. It was a sit down dinner.
We came in so because we did a champagne tasting. So this one comes in.
Then there's the birthday boy standing in his nice white button down. She gets a glass of red wine.

She's like, ha!

Just tosses it on. No, I thought I actually knocked it.

No.

And then she's like, we're dancing in the rain.

I like that.

And then we're all soaked and dancing.

And then I felt bad for him, and she's in this beautiful yellow dress.

So I looked at her, and then I dumped my red wine on her, thinking it'd make him feel better.

And then people were like, they're a hot mess.

And then we made everyone dance in the rain.

Sounds like a fun time. Yeah, sounds like a like a fun time.
Are you actually, like, willing to fight somebody now? Like, from a physical standpoint, your body has held up enough or are they still, like... I mean, if, like, someone made me feel like I had to fight, like, if they threatened me, I would totally fight them and beat them.
I think they'd be shocked. When was the last time you got in a fight? I mean, like...
A long time ago, Bree. Like, real fighting...
Fighting a hangover doesn't count. No know real fighting i've never done i mean that's wrestling but i know i could take like someone came up to me i was like hey i'd be like what when they like talk shit i'd you know and they hit me i'd hit them back yeah bell army yeah yeah fuck them up yeah how uh so you guys have been on like different reality television shows how when they're taping and they they're in your face, is it the worst experience? I always feel like that must suck.
It can be. Because they're in your house too, right? It's major anxiety.
That's why we knew we had to end. Once we had the babies, she had two and then just me having one.
I gave birth on you know on camera but the thing is is they had props up so it was still just three of us in the room but i remember the feeling when i was brought my son home and just one little camera being in there i hated it yeah it's like i'd imagine yeah i couldn't it was just it didn't feel right yeah yeah it's like a very personal space yeah it's like, you feel like, I don't know, maybe, maybe it didn't feel this way, but from the outside, it would seem like with a camera crew in there with your newborn, it's like commercializing your child already. It's like, this is good bonding time.
I want to have just the two of us. 100%.
Exactly. That's exactly how I felt.
Yeah. And then getting, when you get your fights, like relationship fights, like we have to relive them again.
They always cause another argument. Like we're arguing

about this again, but it's cause you're rewatching it and you're like, shit. You do watch what

happens live to each other after you watch the show. You relitigate the whole thing.

And then the worst is you have to watch yourself. So then when you know you're wrong and you

had to just watch yourself being wrong, but you were defending yourself being right.

That's like the worst.

I had to do that a few seasons ago.

Or watching yourself back drunk was really bad.

Like I was in a green screen one time and they're like,

so tell us how you came up with the song, How Did I Lose My Shoe?

And I was like, what?

What are you talking about?

They're like, you wrapped it in the UK.

And I'm like, I did what?

And they're like, get the footage. And I'm watching myself and I'm'm like I was blacked out oh I had no idea that's brutal the song about become a song I would have so much anxiety if somebody was just like replaying my drunkest moments to me oh my gosh like confirming every like you wake up in the morning like oh god what'd I do last night well guess what we've got four cameras that shot it in hd yeah here you go.
Yeah, could you imagine? Imagine the drunk angry.

I got that.

That was the most humiliating rewatch, especially like my Spanx running out of my dress, like sloppy, angry, drunk.

Been there.

Yep.

Would not want that.

Would not want that.

All right.

So I had one last question.

So the podcast is back.

Who's the dream guest?

Oh, my gosh.

I would love Angelina Jolie to be on. Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah. I put her're like we'll see brie and i'm like she has a lot she needs to talk about and promote i think i would really love to have mia ham oh yes also good yeah she's always been like my inspiration growing up and i want to like even you do you guys remember when she did all the michael jordan her day for nike anything i can do yeah right that campaign like i want to like Even you Do you guys remember When she did all the Michael Jordan Her For Nike Anything I can do Yeah Right That campaign Like I want to like Ask her about all that Because think of the time That she did that Like Title IX Was just trying to get past Yeah Like those were our soccer days And she was like Who I had up on my wall So like Was it 98 World Cup No Yeah Yeah Yeah When they won in the Rose Bowl Yeah Because we were 98 we were in And you remember the big deal 7th grade When Brandi Chastain Took her shirt off And she's in a sports bra now And everyone's like How dare her It is kind of crazy To think that that was Like a big deal And now you flash forward To today It was a different world too Because I remember They went on the Letterman show Before the World Cup And David Letterman was like So this is kind of crazy You guys are athletes But uh you're hot.
And it's like, whoa. Imagine if that happened like today, the way that that team was covered.
But I actually, I love watching women's soccer, especially in the United States because one, we win. We're actually really good.
It's fun. And two, the women don't flop.
The men are the one who are, they're always diving. They're faking injuries and shit out there.
It gets annoying to watch sometimes. Yeah.
But you'll never see a woman like pretend to get fouled when she didn't. I don't know what the disconnect there is.
That's actually true. I've actually never even thought about that.
We actually met Alex Morgan and we were like super excited. And then she knew our wrestling and we were like, whoa.
Like it was really fun to talk to her. But it's, yeah, it's, you know, women on a soccer field, though, it's like there's this aggression that you have.

And the more you get hit,

it's like the more fierce it makes you

and the more, I don't know.

It's something different on there.

Me and Ham, come on.

Yes, me and Ham, do it.

Do it, me and Ham.

Let's go.

We like guests that inspire listeners,

especially on the woman front.

You should have Dan Bilzerian on. Who? He'd be a great guest.
You know Dan Bilzerian? Maybe not. Look him up.
He's a good friend of ours. So everyone can find, though, the Bella's podcast.
It's on Stitcher, the SiriusXM, Stitcher, the app, Pandora, anywhere you can find podcasts, and also YouTube. So check it out, the Bella's podcast.
Become part of the Bella Army. We're going to take over the Swifties.
Yes, we are. We can do this.
We can do this. I promise you.
I don't think we can. One song at a time.
I do not think we can, but we can try. I think we can.
I got to warn you, I'm going to pretend that I'm in the Bella Army, but the second the Swifties enter the fray, I'm going to be the first guy running back. Oh, you would.
You're gonna have to shoot me in my back. I'm gonna delete all I'm in the Bella army But the second the Swifties enter the fray I'm gonna be the first guy running back

You're gonna have to shoot me in my back

I'm gonna delete all my Twitter and Instagram

The minute the Swifties come after me

I need to go check some

I thought they were real positive

Not anymore

We have one here

Jamie Lee Curtis posted a picture of the Gyllenhaal

Maggie and Jake

Being like hey look at my godchildren

Aren't they lovely

And then the Swiftie army just attacked her Instagram page

All right. cut your throat.
Jimmy Lee Curtis posted a picture of the Gyllenhaal, Maggie and Jake being like, hey, look at my godchildren. Aren't they lovely? And then the Swifty army just attacked her Instagram page.
It was like, give Taylor the fucking scarf back, Jay. Okay, really quick.
Can I ask you guys, because I saw this. Is Jennifer Aniston, I saw her name get in the middle of this.
Did she take Jake away from Taylor? I don't know. Did you hear about the bathroom thing? I think we've said too much.
I think I'm team Jennifer. Jennifer's a goat.
We've said too much. Well, supposedly the Swifties right now, I mean.
They're just looking for anybody. They're going after Anston.
They're coming for next. Yeah, if you're a Swiftie, it's like either you're with us or you're against us.
If you're not actively pro-Swift, they assume that you're anti-Swift. Shit, I might leave the Bella Army and go to the Swifties.
It would be a smart move. Does Taylor acknowledge this? I don't think so.
I don't think she acknowledges it, but I think she probably is happy that she has such a loyal fan base. Yeah.
Well, thank you guys so much. Always great to have you on.
Anytime you're in town, please make sure you send us a bottle of the Stomped on Wine with a picture of your feet. Not that we want it, but I want to just be acknowledged for...
That is like a billion dollar idea. Just so you know.
We'll put your face on the back. A lot of creeps out there that want that.
Not me. Again, not me.
Not PFT, but a lot of creeps. Alright, thank you guys.
Thank you. Thank you.
Okay, wrap it up. Numbers.
Thank you to the Bella Twins. Thank you to Frank Gore.
Eight. Numbers.
Season nine. Six.
Ninety-seven. I did a little wishy-washy beforehand.
I took six every time. Oh, yeah.
Jake violated the same. 16.
He fisted the machine. No, that's actually good because we needed a little, yeah.
See if we get a new number in here. Ninety-seven.
Oh, 85. Hand of the Bears.
Ocho Cinco.

How many times? Fourth time.

Fourth time. Crocodiles bite force only applies to when they're closing

their mouth. They're actually very weak at opening their

mouth. Mmm.
That's actually

something that could save your life one day. Yes.

Absolutely. And alligators.

Love you guys Thank you. Take on me Take me on I'll be gone And I'll be gone In a day of tears Needless to say I'm on the sentence But I'm being stumbling away Love and learning that life is okay Say up to me It's the better to be seen Take me on.
I'll be gone. In a day or two.
All the things that you say isn't a lotboat Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway.

Take on me. Take me on.

I'll be gone.