WFT Coach Ron Rivera, Getting Larry The Goldfish Into The HoF W/David Baker & Mt Rushmore

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Speaker 2 On today's part of my take, Grit Week continues. We stop at the Washington football team's facility, get to talk to Coach Ron Rivera, awesome interview with him, the definition of grit, that guy.

Speaker 2 We also went to Canton. We talk about our Hall of Fame visit.

Speaker 2 We also have David Baker on to negotiate getting Larry the Goldfish into Canton, into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, some hard knocks, Mount Rushmore of Worst Places to Fart, a new segment, Guys on Checks, which actually is a winner.

Speaker 2 I think we're going to get Guys on Checks. Yeah, it was good.
A little talk about people's workplace, you know, how they navigate work.

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Speaker 7 Pardon my take.

Speaker 2 Welcome to part of my tape presented by Coors Life, the greatest beer of all time. Today is Wednesday, August 18th, and we are in Cleveland.
We are on grit week day three.

Speaker 2 Great trip so far. We have Washington football team coach Ron Rivera coming up.
We're in Canton.

Speaker 2 And we also watched Hard Knocks at Shout Out Maddie and Tyler at their house. Wonderful AWLs.
Hard Knock stinks.

Speaker 7 And also shout out Duke the Dog. Duke the Dog.
Duke the Dog really saved the night. There's nothing that can turn around a bad episode of Hard Knocks like watching it with a cool dog.

Speaker 2 Except for Jake. Jake is allergic to the dog.

Speaker 7 Jake's allergic to dogs. He'll never know my joy.
But Jake, trust me, it's awesome. When you're not allergic to dogs, man,

Speaker 7 it's the God moment.

Speaker 2 If we had,

Speaker 2 we should actually, for next year's grit week, we should have like a helmet that we give out every day. Jake gets the grittiest guy

Speaker 2 of the day because we went to their house to watch Hard Knocks. We were there for maybe an hour and 15 minutes, and Jake has been sneezing and sniffling since.
But that's grit.

Speaker 2 He actually turned turned to me, like choking back his own phlegm, almost dying. And he was like, it is grit week after all.
It's like, it's okay, dude.

Speaker 7 I am a little bit concerned, though, that Jake's going to get back on the sauce on the nose spray.

Speaker 2 This is like a gateway.

Speaker 7 Like, you've been so good. You've been off it for such.
This could be a relapse.

Speaker 2 No, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 What is grit? What's the grittiest thing you guys did on Grit Week? Well, we have this guy, Jake, who's allergic to the world, and he sat with a dog for an hour. Jake played.

Speaker 9 My mom has a hypothergenic dog, so it's not like completely bad, but this one happened to Shed.

Speaker 7 It happened to Shed.

Speaker 7 It did kind of save what was a stinker episode of Hard Knocks.

Speaker 7 I've never felt dumber, actually, watching TV than I did at the end of this week's episode of Hard Knocks, because when it was over, you know what I did as everybody was getting up and like getting ready to go to their Ubers?

Speaker 7 I sat on the couch because I was like, wait, I want to see scenes from next week's Hard Knocks. Like it was an episode of Game of Thrones.
I was going to come on.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, they haven't filmed it yet because the world hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it hasn't happened. It hasn't occurred.
It was, the ending was, I had to, like, check myself because they had the dramatic rainstorm and Lev Schreiber was doing some unbelievable speech.

Speaker 2 And then I was like, wait, they lost in a preseason game to the Cardinals by three points. What are we doing here? But it was like life and death.

Speaker 2 I would say this was, so it was boring because the issue at hand is there's two things that everyone wants to to see.

Speaker 2 It's Jerry Jones, wasn't enough Jerry Jones, and two, we want to see more Dak, and that's the only story that anyone cares about, and they can't show it because they don't want to tell us that his shoulder's fucked up and he's probably going to miss the whole year.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I could have dealt with maybe a training camp fight.

Speaker 2 That would have been something.

Speaker 7 Maybe we could look, but like a real fight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we had the Rams versus Aaron Donald started that, which whoever wants to fight Aaron Donald, be my guest. That's the dumbest thing.

Speaker 7 I'll take the knockoff Aaron Donald when the South stands.

Speaker 2 You know what? That might have been

Speaker 7 like whoever fought him on the cowboys was like hey if i fight aaron donald they have to give me a roster spot or they're going to show me on hard knocks yeah right that's that's what he was going for i'm a little concerned with gucci di nucci uh that's kind of a running theme if you've ever watched him play football but i think that they're they're giving him a little bit too much face time and and he's a guy that uh he thrives in a situation where he's not on film a lot but remember i it like dawned on me halfway through the episode i turned to you i was like doesn't mike mccarthy McCarthy know him or something?

Speaker 2 There is that Western PA

Speaker 2 affinity they have with each other. And I think DiNucci's eighth-grade basketball coach is Mike McCarthy's brother.
So I think he's okay.

Speaker 2 I think that alone will keep him on the team.

Speaker 7 Meritocracy will be. Yeah, maybe practice squad.
I don't know because you can read the tea leaves.

Speaker 7 We've watched enough episodes of Hard Knocks where they always focus on one guy and try to make him a sympathetic backstory character. And then he gets cut.

Speaker 2 Oh, the dude from the Ivory Coast is fucked.

Speaker 7 And a great story. Which sucks because he won the game on that sack.
But he's like a 225-pound defensive end.

Speaker 2 Great story.

Speaker 7 Also, shout out to his mom. The outfit that she wore to that game.
Yeah. That's sick.

Speaker 7 I would like to see people start to adopt that style of wear because you can't have a bad time if you're rocking like a satin fluorescent pink outfit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, and it was, it was great watching his family, like when the mom was like, I can't stop smiling. Yeah.
It was the family episode. As a father or two, I found some heartwarming moments.

Speaker 2 I also miss my family. I'm at that point of the road trip, day three, where I'm like, oh, I kind of wish I was with my son, but that's okay.
I get to watch hard knocks at a random person's house.

Speaker 2 Shout out to Tyler and Maddie. This is Duke.

Speaker 7 This is how bad the episode almost killed.

Speaker 7 One of the best parts. of the episode was like, hey, this guy speaks with a different accent.
And they did like 10 minutes of English. Hey, this guy's from England.
Isn't that crazy? Yeah. I do.
So

Speaker 7 I think it was

Speaker 7 Maddie.

Speaker 2 Who else? Maddie and Tyler and Duke.

Speaker 2 Duke almost killed Jake.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Tyler turned to me at one point, and when they were doing the English thing, he was like, you got to do a Jerry Jones impression of Jerry Jones doing the British accent, which he did.

Speaker 7 So I do have one of those ready to go if you'd like to hear it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, of course. Thanks.
Come on.

Speaker 7 Hey, mate.

Speaker 2 This is wild stuff.

Speaker 7 You know what they call a cigarette in London?

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 he's DJing.

Speaker 2 Because he's like he read.

Speaker 7 I've read the Matt Damon interview.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 Jerry Jones tried to do an English accent, yeah, when he tried to do the Winston Churchill speech.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 that didn't work well. Jerry is the only guy I think I've ever seen that's put on weight after the age of 75.
Most people just start to wither away. He's just ballooning up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it's mostly the Botox.

Speaker 7 Or the sodium.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Botox is like, just keeps you nice and plump at all times. Yeah.
Your face has the plumpness to it. But yeah, boring episode.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Hard knocks, I feel like, I don't want to, I still love it.
I think we do this every year, though. Episode one, we get really excited because they also have more to film.

Speaker 2 They have like two or three weeks to film. We get very excited.
Football's coming back. And then by the time we get to like the last episode, I'm like, I'm out on this.

Speaker 7 Yeah, well, it serves its purpose. Right.
And its purpose is to make me excited in the last like two weeks of July and the first week of August to anticipate the first episode of Hard Hard Knocks.

Speaker 7 And then afterwards, it's like, okay, just, I would rather watch preseason football once a week.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, I actually think that we should do like a, we need a think piece, an oral history of hard knocks, how Rex Ryan ruined hard knocks, because everyone after Rex is trying to have a moment like Rex, and you'll never have that moment again.

Speaker 7 I thought that the closest that we came was the Brown season, because in the Brown season, at least you had Todd Haley and Hugh Jackson just like trying to piss up the same wall of the same barn and both just wetting themselves the entire time.

Speaker 7 And then you also had the the infamous Baker Spiral.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was Hugh Jackson was not trying to do anything funny, but everything he did was funny. Yes, which is

Speaker 2 the first thing of all.

Speaker 7 Yes, right. Yeah, what was your mojo moment from this week?

Speaker 7 I think mine was...

Speaker 7 No, you can go first. I'm trying to decide between two.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, well, in real life or in Hard Knocks?

Speaker 7 In Hard Knocks.

Speaker 2 Okay, because in real life, it was them,

Speaker 2 Tyler and Maddie, giving us guacamole, which was homemade. Yeah.
Incredible movement. That was a mojo moment.
That was a movie.

Speaker 7 We had like 3,000 chips.

Speaker 2 I chip myself to death. I do that every time I go to Mexican food.
I always chip myself to death. I just sit there, and you don't even need to bring me dinner.

Speaker 2 I ordered five tacos, and by the time they came, I was like, I'm going to puke. You got to persevere.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I bury myself in chips. I can't.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 war at the house? Yeah, oh, yeah. I'm like a Labrador that, like, you put the food out, and they will literally eat themselves to death.
If you put enough chips out, I will eat myself to death.

Speaker 7 That's what a husky does. A husky, because their instinct is like, I don't know when my next meal is going to be.
I'm a pack dog. I'm pulling a sled.
I better get my calories in.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, the guacamole was fantastic.

Speaker 2 It's death by chips.

Speaker 2 That will be on my tombstone. I still think about when we went to the Final Four in San Antonio and I chipped myself to death for like four days straight.

Speaker 7 My mojo moment from Hard Knocks was Demarcus Lawrence saying, I don't like to turn my back on the ocean.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was great life advice.

Speaker 7 I don't know why, but now, from now on, I'm never going to turn my back on that ocean.

Speaker 2 Yeah, mine was when they did the yoga man card, and then they zoomed in on the guy's taint, and then they went to Ezekiel Elliott being like Magooch Hurts. Is that that was great editing?

Speaker 7 It was very good. Have you seen,

Speaker 7 well, it was kind of weird. They all put the towels over their heads and laid down.
It looked like Heaven's Gate.

Speaker 2 It was like a really strange thing. I think that was the sun that they were trying to get away from, but it might be wrong.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I think it was that sun.

Speaker 7 That makes sense. My mojo moment from this week was:

Speaker 7 I'm going to say, so far from today,

Speaker 7 me me and Big Cat apologizing to each other.

Speaker 7 We had an apology off because we did go to Canton. We went to visit Larry's grave site, R.I.P.
Larry or Gambling Goldfish, Larry 2, and his grave has been defiled. He's been dug up.

Speaker 2 The tree has been defiled.

Speaker 7 And they cut down his tree. Yes.
They cut down his tree, which is a real problem with CO2 that we're having right now. Like, we need all the trees we can get.
And they chopped his little tree down.

Speaker 7 And we were looking for his grave site. But unfortunately, without all these landmarks that we have to find Larry, like his plaque, which which has also been removed,

Speaker 7 I thought it was in this one location. We got there and we're like, well, it's not here.
And then Big Cat was like, no, it was way further down this road. And I was like, no, you're wrong.

Speaker 2 And then Big Cat was like, no, you're wrong. No, I was like, there's no tree there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, there's no tree there. And so Big Cat and I were, we got to do a back and forth saying, like, I will accept my apology anytime now.
We said that to each other.

Speaker 7 And then after we realized we'd been duped and the tree was cut, we both were wrong and right. We admitted to each other that we were actually both right.

Speaker 2 You had the location right. I had the fact there was no tree there, right? Yes.
And yeah, they, my, I thought for a second there that we were losing it.

Speaker 2 They were like, all right, we got to hang it up because we can't figure out like a pretty significant detail in all of our lives, I'd say. Larry's funeral.

Speaker 2 We had just erased from our memory, but we've sorted it out. We have David Baker on the show.
We are going to get Larry into Canton, so you'll hear that.

Speaker 2 The Hall of Fame was awesome, though. Walking around, we got like a

Speaker 2 view of John. Shout out John, who's their archivist? He took us in the back.
We got to see all this really cool stuff.

Speaker 2 Just an awesome time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was great. We do have a code blue situation on the bus, though, on the RV, which is the generator's dead.

Speaker 7 And so now there's no AC, there's no power on the bus. So Billy's going to be sweating out there.
It's humid. You know what? The bus actually turned humid on the drive from Canton to Cleveland.

Speaker 7 I don't think I've ever been humid inside of a car before, but there we were. So our bus driver Ben said that he tried to fix it, but he doesn't have any tools, Corey told us.

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Speaker 2 I might have spilled some dip spit on it when I was out back there today.

Speaker 2 That's okay, that's fine. That's great.
Yeah, it was just a

Speaker 2 bottle cap situation. I can't get people out of my bed.
We hit a bump and it was like, whoops, I'm on Billy's bed.

Speaker 7 I definitely left my

Speaker 7 beer can can that was mostly empty almost all the way empty on the top bunk yeah and then jake got into it on the first night he's like i'm gonna just go climb up there for a second i was like oh no he's definitely gonna feel how wet that mattress and then jake comes immediately back down with the can of beer and like throws it in the trash so our bad guys are bad that was you know that was a joke a prank by us listen we're messing we're this is the road life this is where me and big cat get back to our roots which is just essentially spilling liquids on things yes random liquids on things and not telling anyone that's the important part yeah i didn't think

Speaker 2 spilling liquids is normal. It's never telling anyone that you spilled anything ever.

Speaker 7 Jake, would you rather sleep on a mattress that's been soaked in Coors Light, like old, warm Coors Light, or have an extremely cute dog sleep on the mattress with you?

Speaker 9 Giving me all the time with the Coors Light.

Speaker 11 The mountains are blue. Okay.

Speaker 2 The sheets are blue, too.

Speaker 2 What if I told you you can either not sleep, or you can, you never get another pillow ever to sleep on, ever again, for the rest of your life unless you sleep on Duke as a pillow for one night.

Speaker 11 If it was during grit week, I would be gritty.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Just grind it out.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And let him kiss you on the lips, too.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Kiss you up and down. Hank, check in with you.
Are you good? Yeah. All right.

Speaker 2 The grittiest of us all.

Speaker 7 Hank, you get some sun today?

Speaker 2 Nope.

Speaker 2 Why are your eyes red?

Speaker 2 I'm tired. Yeah, yeah, me too.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm very tired. Ezekiel Elek looked really tired today, too.

Speaker 2 Super tired.

Speaker 10 I mean, actually, I haven't even, you guys are inferring something that I haven't even done. No, yeah.
I wish I could say that was the reason, but I'm actually just tired.

Speaker 2 Hank also bought some shades in the Canton Pro Football Hall of Fame. They're fired.
Do you have them? They are fired. They're fired.
Pro Football Hall of Fame gift shop. I'll wear them in Boxline.

Speaker 2 They're like the biggest dishwasher.

Speaker 2 They're like

Speaker 2 Silver Patriots, like Oakley's, that are so fucking fashionable.

Speaker 10 There's a definition of like they were on the counter when you're checking out.

Speaker 2 Oh, I got it.

Speaker 7 They look like they're straight out of like 1997. I bet.
I like the Jared Carabas edition.

Speaker 12 They look like the same glasses that Gaz is wearing when he's getting taken out of the NFL HQ.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 12 With his handcuffs on. Yes.

Speaker 10 That should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 Oh, that was the only other thing I had to mention. Hank and

Speaker 2 our sales guy, Nick, who's with us, they were, Liam pointed this out to me, and I watched you guys do it.

Speaker 2 They basically spent the entire time walking through the Pro Football Hall of Fame, cataloging any and all slander against the Patriots.

Speaker 2 They were like taking pictures of like the helmet catch being like, this shouldn't be here.

Speaker 2 Like, where's Belichick?

Speaker 2 It was so great. They're like, this is bullshit.

Speaker 7 Yeah, what'd you think of Goodell's chair?

Speaker 9 Didn't care for it.

Speaker 2 It's on the list.

Speaker 10 I mean, it's one of those things where it's awkward because, like, you know, the Pro Football Hall of Fame opened their doors for us, so I don't want to, like.

Speaker 2 No, you could say it. It's a piece of shit.

Speaker 2 It's also the very first thing you see when you all.

Speaker 7 I did get a chance to sit in the chair, and as I was leaving, the lady that was helping us out with the tour, she told me that Roger Goodell actually wants that chair back for football season.

Speaker 2 So he didn't even donate it to the Hall of Fame. The worst.

Speaker 7 He's watching it the whole streaming.

Speaker 10 So if you invite more people over for charity and then never have them come over.

Speaker 2 Yeah, basically.

Speaker 2 And also his Eminem holder is in there, too. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Jesus Christ. It's a big masturbatory roster.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Roger Goodell's Hall of Fame, pretty much.

Speaker 2 All right. Should we get to the rest of the show?

Speaker 2 So we got Hot Seat Cool Throne, Ron Rivera, David Baker, getting Larry into the Hall of Fame, Mount Rushmore of Worst Places to Fart, and what's the last thing? Oh, guys on checks.

Speaker 2 Holy shit, that's a huge show. Big show.

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Speaker 2 Okay, hot seat cool thrown. Hank.

Speaker 10 Dan.

Speaker 2 Henry.

Speaker 2 Henry.

Speaker 10 Daniel.

Speaker 2 Are you going to do it? Yeah, okay. My hot seat inside.

Speaker 10 My hot seat is the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Wow.

Speaker 11 I thought they were way ahead of the Yankees.

Speaker 10 They're now only one game they lost today. First half a doubleheader.
Second game's going on right now. They lost the first game.
They're only one game ahead of the Yankees.

Speaker 10 The Yankees are 21-9 since the all-star break. The Red Sox are 14-16.

Speaker 10 So we got a good old. And Rizzo, you know, Rizzo came back.
They got a little momentum. He got.

Speaker 2 And they got Gaio.

Speaker 10 Gaio, my boy.

Speaker 2 Joey Gaio.

Speaker 7 When's Schwarber going to play? I think he played the other day.

Speaker 10 I think so. No first at bad home run, though.

Speaker 2 But Schwarber will get hot.

Speaker 7 How'd you break our boy?

Speaker 10 I don't know. I don't know.
But yeah,

Speaker 10 it's going to be a fun, fun fall, though.

Speaker 10 Classic, classic pennant race.

Speaker 2 Classic pennant race for a wild card spot.

Speaker 7 Hey, I know you very deeply care about the Red Sox all year round. That's a given.
But when do you really start to get into them?

Speaker 10 Right about now. This is, I mean, not.
Probably not till like September, mid to late September, and then definitely October if they make the playoffs.

Speaker 10 But a Red Sox Yankees pennant race for the wild card is enough to catch my attention and I'll be tuning in.

Speaker 2 It demands your attention right now. Right.
You got the alert, like, hey, Henry Lockwood, we need your attention. Show up.
Let's go.

Speaker 10 Right. And they have it.
I'm here.

Speaker 2 Okay. Perfect.
And then my cool throw owner. If they lose, like, let's say the next seven games, will your attention now be off of it?

Speaker 10 Well, if they're out of the pennant race for the wild card, then yeah. Okay.

Speaker 10 And then my cool throw owners cold activated shirts and cups.

Speaker 2 Ah, yeah. We were talking about this on the bus.

Speaker 10 They came out in the disc golf video. It's one of those things that, I mean, they're cool, but it's like, how do we even do them? Yeah.

Speaker 10 It's a modern marvel that we're, you know, we're selling, we're profiting off of. It's nice.
They're cool little things. But when you actually wrap your mind around it, can you guys tell me?

Speaker 10 I was asking Billy. Billy couldn't even come up with an answer.

Speaker 2 Billy usually has an answer for everything, whether it's right or wrong. Mostly wrong.

Speaker 7 He was stumped. The mountains turning blue on a can of beer is probably the best scientific achievement, maybe ever.
But the

Speaker 2 cups are the same.

Speaker 2 So we have shirts we have cups the cups like you would have thought that we had just all watched like the rv go to the moon because we got on the rv there we have these mugs they were clear all day someone had put a couple into the cooler pulled it out like dark blue and everyone was like what

Speaker 2 how the fuck did this happen and then they pulled it out and then slowly it went back to clear and everyone's like oh my god and it's going back so the lesson is yes, it's incredible technology.

Speaker 2 And also our brains are maybe like a little bit better than like a kitten's brains where we can be fascinated by the smallest, littlest things.

Speaker 7 Well, even better than taking it out of the fridge, when you pour a cold beer into it, you can watch the cup, like the beer looks like it turns blue as it goes up the side.

Speaker 7 It's a science experiment. Like you could probably get an A.

Speaker 7 If you have a third grader out there and they're looking for a last-minute thing to bring into class, just give them a Coors Light and a frosty mug and tell them to report for their teacher.

Speaker 10 It's like the iPhone. Some genius spent all their time making this like modern marvel of technology just so like moms can play Candy Crush.

Speaker 2 Yes,

Speaker 10 someone, some scientists spent a lot of time figuring that technology out for it to just go into beer cups.

Speaker 7 Also, so people could rant into them in their trucks. Right.

Speaker 7 That's really the best part about it, I think.

Speaker 2 Is that it? Yeah. PFT.
Great job.

Speaker 7 Thanks. My hot seat is fun.

Speaker 7 Fun's on the hot seat.

Speaker 7 Sorry, because Mr. Mara, excuse me, Giants co-owner, Mr.

Speaker 7 Mara, and all the people out there referring to him as John Mara, you might as well call Deion Sanders prime or call him Deion and not coach because it's disrespectful.

Speaker 7 Co-owner John Mara was the driving force behind the new taunting penalty in the NFL. The one where you see the

Speaker 7 guy in the Colts that got the flag for essentially just standing up and screaming after he ran over the entire Panthers defense. So Mr.
Mara was the one that is enforcing it.

Speaker 7 It's honestly stupid. Like, he was saying that nobody wants to see this.

Speaker 2 And we all, oh, you got the quote. Oh, yeah, here it is.
So, he said, we get sick and tired of the talking that goes on from time to time. Well, first of all, I'm going to stop you right there.

Speaker 2 It's not even like talking that goes on all the time. From time to time, we get sick and tired of something.
No.

Speaker 2 It's just a question of whether you can have rules that can be enforced and without taking the fun out of the game. Nobody wants to see a player taunting another player.
I know, I certainly don't.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have to say that I absolutely do.

Speaker 2 Put me up for the, when he says nobody, put me on the list of somebody who does want to see taunting all the time.

Speaker 7 Because when he says, we get sick and tired of all the talking, who is this we bullshit? From time to time. It's just John Mara that gets sick of it.

Speaker 2 By the way, excuse me. If they were

Speaker 2 tired as much.

Speaker 7 Exactly. That's the thing.
It's like, I can make a rule: if you play basketball against me, I'm going to outlaw dunking for both of us.

Speaker 7 It's like, oh, no, Daniel Jones isn't allowed to taunt after all his spectacular plays.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you guys stink and you get taunted on. Yeah.
And that sucks.

Speaker 7 And John Mara, if you take one look at the guy, Mr. Mara,

Speaker 7 he is the man. He is the man that we he's the machine that needs to be raged against.
He looks like when you die, if you still have a boss, that's what he looks like.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 7 He's the antithesis of fun.

Speaker 2 He should be starring in the crown. Yes.
Because

Speaker 2 he's basically

Speaker 2 a monarch in England, but it's actually in New York, and he just says, no fun for you.

Speaker 7 He should star in Downton Abbey as a portrait that hangs on the wall of the most boring character's house.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 7 I've never seen that show, but I think I nailed that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you did.

Speaker 10 Your cool throne? Yeah, my cool throne.

Speaker 7 My cool throne is Billy's butt.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Billy's butt's on the cool throne. Now it is.
Yesterday, not so much.

Speaker 7 So we went out to the Buffalo Wing Factory in Sterling, Virginia, one of my favorite places growing up, and Billy attempted the flatliner challenge.

Speaker 2 What is the flatliner challenge?

Speaker 7 That's a good question. Billy, do you want to answer that? I can keep going.

Speaker 2 Well, we have a video coming out. So why don't you explain the challenge, but don't tell us what happened.

Speaker 12 10 extremely hot, hot wings.

Speaker 2 It's going to be awesome. You're going to fucking crush this.

Speaker 7 I'll put it this way. These wings are so hot.
My friend Taylor, we dared him back in high school to take a shot of the flatliner sauce.

Speaker 2 He did.

Speaker 7 He sprinted out to the parking lot and started puking everywhere they called an ambulance oh so uh this is a really good this is gonna be great all right so tune in because we have billy trying it with special guest stanford steve who had lunch with us i

Speaker 2 billy it listen i know there's some haters of billy this will win you over what time shall we do it um seven o'clock whenever whenever it gets uh tomorrow yeah wednesday yeah how about eight o'clock how about this if this tweet with this video on it gets 200 retweets that's when it comes well no because we're going going to schedule it, then we have to go out all day.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 8 o'clock. 8 o'clock.
Give a nice try.

Speaker 2 Listen,

Speaker 7 I'm looking out for the team here. I'm trying to get our numbers up.
Corporate's been breathing down our ass.

Speaker 2 8 o'clock. 8 o'clock.
Exciting. Billy, we're going to crush it.
One speaker. Speak breathed down your ass.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Wait, don't say anything because, I mean, this is going to be like, we're going to crown our champion.

Speaker 12 You know how you say that like you can't drink two cups of milk in an hour?

Speaker 2 I've never. Two cups of milk in an hour?

Speaker 2 I'll drink two cups of mint. What's that?

Speaker 7 Give me a minute. I'll drink two cups of milk in my mouth.

Speaker 2 But what's that myth about drinking milk? It's a gallon of milk. Oh, well,

Speaker 12 that might have been disproven as well.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay. All right.
There we go.

Speaker 7 Going to be a great video. Watch Billy.
Yeah, watch Billy. Where do I take you to war mode on the chicken wing?

Speaker 2 Subscribe. All right.
My hot seat is anyone who likes Tim Tebow because he got cut. And the farce of Tim Tebow

Speaker 2 actually trying out for the Jacksonville Jaguars and being a tight end. I'm not even mad about him taking a roster spot.

Speaker 2 I'm just sick of Tim Tebow, especially the fact that he was asked to be a tight end like 10 years ago when he was still in the NFL, said no, and now he tried again and he sucked.

Speaker 7 Yeah, if you know any Skip Baylisses out there, give them a call today and check in on them, see how they're doing, because it's a tough one.

Speaker 7 I kind of almost want to see LeBron James just go out for the Rams on a whim this season.

Speaker 2 I'm sure he'd be better than Texas.

Speaker 7 And catch 10 touchdown passes just to watch Skip Bayless' head explode on this one. Yeah, it's

Speaker 2 I'm sick of him.

Speaker 7 It was always a sideshow. He was never going to make the team ever.
But people, wait, I love talking about Tim Team.

Speaker 2 Didn't you say? If you honestly think he was going to maybe make the team?

Speaker 7 If you honestly think that I like Tim Tebow and I want him to be a great player because I'm rooting for him, then we don't see.

Speaker 7 My thing with Tim Tebow is I love talking about Tim Tebow.

Speaker 2 Okay. But you thought maybe he would make the team.

Speaker 7 I thought that Urban Meyer might be blackmailed by Tim Tebow. Got it.

Speaker 2 Got it. Yeah, I never thought there was a chance.
And I'm like, they sold, they were number one seller in Jersey for two days. They robbed people of their money.

Speaker 7 No refunds, not a dime back.

Speaker 2 And now Tim Tebow is cut. And then my cool throne is the New Orleans Saints because they just signed Kevin White, rookie of the year.
So Jameis Winston to Kevin White. I think I have a second team.

Speaker 2 I don't know what else I can say. Like, that's James.
Did that Jameis video today of him humping the air?

Speaker 7 That was on Sunday night.

Speaker 2 Oh, Oh, okay. My bad.
I saw it today. That Jameis video I saw today of him humping the air was awesome.
Yeah, it was sick. Okay.
He kind of ruined, like, that sucks for me, but whatever.

Speaker 2 All right, Billy, go ahead.

Speaker 2 No, it just sucks.

Speaker 2 It sucks when you're when I say, like, when someone says, like, oh, that video is like, well, actually, you missed it. It's a shitty feeling.

Speaker 7 I feel bad about myself.

Speaker 7 I retract myself.

Speaker 2 I feel bad about myself.

Speaker 12 My hot seat is just students from middle school to college.

Speaker 12 Our nightmare has returned. Back in 2013, no,

Speaker 12 there was an app called Yik Yak, which absolutely destroyed people's lives, especially adolescents at a very impactful age.

Speaker 12 If you don't know, Yik Yak was an anonymous message board of source where basically with your geographic location, you could post like a message anonymously. Okay.

Speaker 12 So like, you know, rumors were spread.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 no, dude, this was...

Speaker 12 Oh, it was a goddamn war zone. I mean, you could basically like post anything.
Like, if you were in a high school setting, right?

Speaker 12 Like, you could just go to high school and then just, like, post something on that geographic location.

Speaker 12 Then everyone would check the feed and like see, like, oh, this person cheated on this person over the weekend. And, like, shit would go nuts.
And it was a huge rumor mill.

Speaker 10 I really ball in the bathroom talking about being a wide receiver. Oh.

Speaker 7 It actually, it just sounds like a bathroom wall that got turned into an app.

Speaker 2 Right, right.

Speaker 12 The thing is, like, the janitor goes and scrubs the bathroom wall if something's put up. And, like,

Speaker 12 people could, like, be so. What happened to it?

Speaker 2 It's back. Oh, it's back.

Speaker 7 But also, like, cool throwing freedom of speech.

Speaker 12 This, this, this was, like, cyberly central. Like, ask if

Speaker 2 yik yak. What happened to you, Billy? No, no, no.

Speaker 12 I mean, form string. Like, I'm just saying, like, it made a group of very tough individuals who had to grow up like in being like sixth grade and seeing shit being put up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that does sound

Speaker 2 impactful age.

Speaker 11 Like, I guess I don't have children.

Speaker 7 Uh, I don't know what it's like to raise a kid in this environment, but I feel like kids until they're out of high school just shouldn't have apps.

Speaker 7 There's nothing good that comes from having an app as a child.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Also, my other hot seat, Travis Kelsey, his beard

Speaker 2 has shaved.

Speaker 12 Everyone is just going after him on the internet.

Speaker 2 On Yik Yak?

Speaker 12 Yeah, basically, if there was Yik Yak at the Chiefs' camp, it's probably all just roasting Travis Kelsey for Kells.

Speaker 2 Kells,

Speaker 2 pronunciation guy.

Speaker 7 I don't think he looks that bad, though.

Speaker 2 Like, people are like, oh, wow.

Speaker 11 Travis Kells looks awful.

Speaker 7 I think it looks good. Yeah.
When people shave their beards, they usually don't look that bad.

Speaker 2 I agree.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's not. I wasn't jarring at all.

Speaker 2 Just totally normal. Yeah, totally normal, clean-shaven guy.

Speaker 7 He looks kind of like if Joey Chestnut played football, I can see that. Or like a Mormon Henry Rollins, but like he still is.
I don't know. He still looks pretty normal to me.

Speaker 11 Agreed.

Speaker 12 And my cool throne is Nick Sabin. When told about Oregon having 100 different uniform combinations, he said, we have two.
Red jerseys at home, white jerseys away.

Speaker 12 Our main concern around here is who is wearing them. Love it.

Speaker 2 Football guy.

Speaker 2 God Henry.

Speaker 10 Ben the RV driver.

Speaker 2 Okay, who's quite a character?

Speaker 10 He said, you can let the guys know that I got the generator AC going for at least now.

Speaker 10 The slide is still not working and I'm out of ideas on it. Figure I better be happy with what I got done.

Speaker 7 I love the end of that sentence, by the way. That's him saying, like, I just quit.
But he's like, I figure it would be good if I could just be happy with what I was able to accomplish.

Speaker 2 Also, the generator working for now when we don't have to go anywhere for like 12 hours, that doesn't

Speaker 2 feel like when he says for now,

Speaker 2 we're going to get on the bus tomorrow morning. And he's going to be like, well, I told you guys it was working like at 7 p.m.
on Tuesday night. Yeah.
What do you want me to do about it?

Speaker 7 That means that he currently has a

Speaker 7 on the bus. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I have faith. Okay.

Speaker 2 All right, Jake, your hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 9 My hot seat is plain jerseys. The NHL, like the NBA, is adding advertising to their front of the jerseys in 2022.

Speaker 2 I feel like it's inevitable for NFL. Yeah, which is just fine with it.
Who cares? Remember when they said when it was a big deal because the NBA was doing it?

Speaker 2 And then it happens and you're like, okay. They do it with practice jerseys in the NFL.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 It doesn't matter. It's going to happen.

Speaker 7 It's like you don't go to a sporting event anywhere in the United States and be like, wow, I had no idea there was all this corporate influence until there was a small patch on one of their jerseys.

Speaker 7 Except for the record, when baseball does it, I'll be mad, just be mad at baseball for doing it too late.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a nothing burger.

Speaker 9 Fair. And then Cool Thrones, the NBA schedule.
We had the release of opening nightmares.

Speaker 2 And Christmas Day. Christmas Day.
Nets, Lakers. Well, wait, no.
Christmas Day, Packers, Browns.

Speaker 9 Oh, is it a conflict again?

Speaker 2 Damn, they released their Christmas Day schedule. There's two NFL games.
Sorry, NBA. What day of the week is that? Not going to be watching that.

Speaker 2 Christmas Day, I think, is a Saturday.

Speaker 9 Well, remember a few years ago, they just made the NFL slate on a Saturday?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 7 they do that every year.

Speaker 7 They do like a Saturday.

Speaker 9 No, they had like Red Zone on a Saturday.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 7 A few years ago. What day is, do you think that there's any day of the sporting calendar that the NFL could not take over if Roderick Goodell was just like, you know what?

Speaker 7 We're going to do a game on the, like, remember the Titans field on this day. Let's just say hypothetically.

Speaker 2 No, it's

Speaker 7 T.C. Williams High School.

Speaker 2 It's the NFL, so the Browns and Packers play at 4.30 and the Colts and Cardinals played 8.15. I'll be watching both of those.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 2 I'll watch the NBA, but the NFL will always just take whatever they want, whenever they want.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so I think the only, maybe like the opening weekend of March Madness, that would be tough.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would watch March Madness.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I don't think, but the majority of America would watch the NFL. Yeah.
This is a rough. That's ball is life for me.

Speaker 10 That's a rough vacation schedule.

Speaker 9 Opening night, next Buck, Nets, Bucks, and Warriors, Lakers.

Speaker 9 That's in October.

Speaker 2 What is it?

Speaker 9 Nets at Bucks, Warriors at Lakers.

Speaker 7 Okay. I'm actually, I'm really excited for this upcoming NBA season, more so than I've been in a long time.
I'm pumped to see the Warriors again. They're actually going to be the Warriors again.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What else are you? Give us the quick top three things you're looking for.

Speaker 7 Okay, so I'm also looking forward to the Washington Wizards, how they treat Bradley Beal as the guy now that he's no longer one of two guys. I'm also looking very much forward to Luca.

Speaker 7 Can he get out of the first round or the second round? Can he get to the third round? And then I'm also looking forward to actually your Bulls. Yeah.
The additions that they've made in the offseason.

Speaker 7 Lonzo.

Speaker 2 That's going to be great.

Speaker 7 Another thing to watch in the NBA this year is going to be the continued proliferation of the Clippers. Can they get it done? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Will Dame get traded?

Speaker 7 Will he force a trade? Will he force a trade?

Speaker 2 I'm so sick of Damian Lillard. He's a little bit of a fever, Dan.

Speaker 2 Damian Lillard is doing the.

Speaker 2 He should just, he can force a trade. Everyone can force a trade in the NBA.
Yeah. He's pretending like he can't.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Just force a trade.

Speaker 7 Also, the Boston Celtics have Market Smart again.

Speaker 2 That's going to be tough to watch. Yeah.
Did you guys see that? 77 mil.

Speaker 9 Patrick Beverly got traded twice in two days.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's tough. So especially the way that he was tweeting about it, and he was like all excited to join.
First, he was excited to go back to the Clippers and then he got traded.

Speaker 7 Then he tweeted out like grit and grind for the Grizzlies and then he immediately got traded again.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Tough. Tough breaks for Pat Bev.

Speaker 2 All right, let's do our interview. We got Coach Ron Rivera at Washington Football Team Camp.

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Speaker 2 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest brought to you by Core's Light. It is Grit Week.

Speaker 2 We have Coach Ron Rivera, Super Bowl champion, 85 Bears, coach of the Panthers, now coach of the Washington football football team. Coach, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 We start every interview we do in Grit Week talking about what is grit. So what is grit to Coach Ron Rivera and when do you know you see grit and how can you feel grit?

Speaker 11 Attitude. I really do.
I think it's all about your attitude, the way you project things, the way you handle things, the way you deal with things, the way you approach things.

Speaker 11 I talk to our players about attitude every day. And one of the things that happened, and you'll appreciate this,

Speaker 11 from 1984 till about 1991,

Speaker 11 we had attitude in Chicago. We had grit.
We get off the bus and know that was worth seven points. You know what I mean? I mean, you really feel that.
To me,

Speaker 11 that's what it's about, especially in this game. If you have the right type of attitude, you have the right type of approach.
People feel it. People know you're for real.

Speaker 11 So to me, grit's all about your attitude, the way you project.

Speaker 7 I love it. And first of all, how are you feeling? How's the health? You got energy?

Speaker 2 Where are we at right now?

Speaker 11 I'm feeling pretty good. My energy levels are, that's the thing that goes up and down still.
You know, I've been very fortunate. A lot of my tests have all come back

Speaker 11 and the doctors have all been pleased with everything I've been doing so far. But the one thing that they told me says, you know, it's 12, 16, 18 month process.

Speaker 11 You're not going to feel like you normally do this time of year. So you just got to continue to work with it, stay with it.

Speaker 2 And so that's what I've been having to do is uh is kind of you know work with it and uh i have my moments yeah you could have said for the grit question that grit is fighting the nfc beast and cancer at the same time because i mean a remarkable story inspiration i would say to a lot of people um what you're able to do and you know i was listening to an interview you had about you know even days when you you felt like you weren't up to it but you were there practice and you you know you were there for the team i'm sure that that would you say that had something to do with how you guys performed last year winning the nfc east and kind of coming out of nowhere as a team?

Speaker 11 I think so. I think it had something to do with it.
I mean, we had a lot of great stories with this football team, but a lot of things that we had to overcome.

Speaker 11 I mean, Alex Smith's story is about as good as it gets. It really is.
And I think that helped, too, because I will say this, there wasn't a lot of complaining last year.

Speaker 11 And I think our guys, that kind of helped them to understand just, you know, I guess a little bit of what it takes to play in the NFL.

Speaker 11 And the thing also that I really do appreciate is just really how the players handled themselves and were as professional as they were.

Speaker 11 So a lot of good things came out of some of the things that we had to battle last year and overcome.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I remember when Alex got into that game for the first time, I know that was a goal of his, to get back on the field and to play, and he got hit.

Speaker 7 And if you're going to choose one guy to get sacked by on your first contact, you're probably not going to choose Aaron Donnell.

Speaker 7 You probably go with a smaller guy, a guy that's not the best defensive player in the league. the league.

Speaker 7 But when we were watching that, it was uncomfortable for us to see it, but we were also thinking to ourselves, like, Alex probably enjoyed getting hit.

Speaker 7 It probably made him more comfortable, like, knocked some of that rust off a little bit. He got back into the zone.
You as a coach, were you having to balance

Speaker 7 looking after the health and well-being of your player compared to knowing that Alex is a competitor and that he wants to be out there and he'll be okay?

Speaker 7 How did that balance work into your decision-making?

Speaker 11 You know, it was a little bit tough because at first, really didn't know. and tried to learn and understand to get a better feel for where he was.

Speaker 11 But as things began to progress and you got to see him work more and more and see how much he's accomplished and how much he's pushed himself through,

Speaker 11 you got more and more comfortable. And then, of course, we put him in the ball game against the Rams and hold your breath.

Speaker 11 And like you said, you'd much rather have it not been the defensive player of the year.

Speaker 11 I mean, you'd much rather it be a little small corner or something like that coming off the edge and bouncing off of him.

Speaker 11 But it was good for Alex to take that shot because, boy, he played with a lot of confidence. He really did.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I should have mentioned, by the way, at the top, we are outside at the Washington football team facilities. They were gracious enough to host us, but if you hear a plane going over, that's why.

Speaker 2 But it's a great setting. We're on a football field, doing an interview on a football field with the bus right next to us.

Speaker 2 All right, I want to talk about defense real quick. So you've been a part of some incredible defenses.
Obviously, the 85 Bears, the 06 Bears. This team right now that you have is special defensively.

Speaker 2 Is there like a certain,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 thing that kind of you can see see in all three of those teams that you've seen now in this team, you're like, all right, they're special for this reason.

Speaker 2 I've seen it before because I've been around these kind of special defenses.

Speaker 11 Give me my driver, please, because he teed this up perfectly. That was a good one, right? Grit.

Speaker 2 Let you go for it, yeah.

Speaker 11 I love the grit. Yeah, I really do.
I think you could say all three teams have grit.

Speaker 11 They have the attitude that you look for in groups, that they just know that if they go out and play their game, do the things they're capable of, they give themselves a chance to win.

Speaker 11 And that's the thing I like about these young guys right now: I think they're developing that, they're feeling that, they know what it's like.

Speaker 11 You know, it's funny, a lot of people say, you know, why are you doing what you did last year? Why did you do that? You could have gotten a better draft pick.

Speaker 11 But what we did was we developed our football team. We put our guys in position last year that they had to play down the stretch to get into the playoffs.
So, when you look at from Pittsburgh on,

Speaker 11 it was playoff situation, circumstances. It was tough, it was hard.

Speaker 11 And then winning and getting into the division, winning the division, getting into the playoffs, we gained experience.

Speaker 11 And that kind of experience is invaluable because these guys now know what it's like. So they can develop that grit, that attitude you need.
And that's what I'm starting to feel, starting to see.

Speaker 11 One thing I will say is that each one of those teams that

Speaker 11 one I played for and one I coached and now this one

Speaker 11 we had a,

Speaker 11 I think it started with the defensive line setting the tone for the defense more so than anything else I mean we had Brian Erlach Hall of Famer you know we had Mike Singletary Hall of Famer but when you look at those guys that were up front there was something about those guys that set the tone and the tempo for for for who we who we were going to be as a football team and and that's what's exciting so when I look at our guys one of the parallels I see right away is I see that that that defensive line with potentially what can be guys that can have great careers so I'm excited about it and and I feel like for I mean PFT can speak to it because obviously he roots for the Washington football team, but it's this weird feeling you have,

Speaker 2 especially in today's football with the offense the way it is, where you actually look forward to defense.

Speaker 2 You like look forward to your team playing defense because it's almost like we know we can suffocate whatever they throw at us.

Speaker 11 You know, I think that that's that. That's an interesting parallel to what a lot of people have looked at because they always say, you know, defense wins championships.

Speaker 11 Well, with the ability of so many offenses now to score the way they do, you have to be able to slow somebody down.

Speaker 11 And even more so, this will be true, that a defense that can make plays at the right time will win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so on the defensive side, we like to pretend that we're smarter than everybody else. And we don't do the, oh, this guy's the best player on the team.

Speaker 7 We do the, you know what, this guy's actually the most important player on this unit. So I'm not talking about like who's going to make the Pro Bowl, who's going to be all pro on the defense.

Speaker 7 So that's my way of saying I don't want Chase Young as this answer. But who is the most important player on that defense?

Speaker 11 Wow, that's a good question because

Speaker 11 when you look at it, I mean, I could give you several different guys for several different reasons. So more than anything else, I'm going to say there's not one.
There really isn't.

Speaker 11 And I say that because certain guys serve certain roles. Jonathan Allen might be one of the best natural leaders I've been around.
It really is.

Speaker 11 But then you look at John Bostic, who's probably one of the most unselfish guys I've been around.

Speaker 11 I mean, here's a guy that everybody's been, you know, since I've been here, has been competing for his spot.

Speaker 11 And all he does is work with these young guys and help these young guys and point these young guys in the right direction.

Speaker 11 And so, you know, you feel like a guy like that is the type of guy you want out there.

Speaker 11 And then you look at the secondary and you look at the different mix of guys we have back there.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 11 there's a kid named Jeremy Reeves.

Speaker 11 And to me, he epitomizes what grid is. You know, the kid comes in in last year, has a tremendous training camp, tremendous, and we're going to release him, but we're going to bring him back.

Speaker 11 And I say to Jeremy, I said, look, this was a very tough, this is our situation. We're going to bring you back.

Speaker 11 If we bring you back, just want you to know you'll have every opportunity to make it and be on the 53.

Speaker 11 We had some injuries, and instead of bringing in one of my former players,

Speaker 11 I said to Jeremy, I said, I'm going to give you your shot because you earned it. And I promised you I would.

Speaker 11 And by doing that, by me saying that and sticking to my word, and then Jeremy telling the other guys, hey, coach told me he stuck to his word, that has helped me.

Speaker 11 That has resonated with the other guys. That if I say something to you, I'm going to follow it through.
And that's what I did. And so

Speaker 11 maybe not just on the defense, but on the team as a whole, just this young man, because of what he showed me and what he held me to, I think has helped me.

Speaker 11 And that's why I think he's very important to us.

Speaker 7 Conversely, if we're talking about star players and how you coach them up, who is it? Brandon Staley on the Rams that we talked to?

Speaker 7 Talk to him about the responsibility that comes with coaching a generational talent on your defense.

Speaker 7 How do you coach a guy like a Luke Keekly or Thomas Davis even or in this case like Chase Young? Looks like he's going to be that guy.

Speaker 7 What's your coaching philosophy in terms of do I put this guy in as many positions to make plays? Do I have him attack a certain way? Do I scheme him in a way that I won't scheme others?

Speaker 7 Or like, how does that factor into decision making?

Speaker 11 You know, what's interesting is

Speaker 11 I got a little bit of advice from Jimmy Johnson, Hall of Fame coach now. And he told me, he said, Ron,

Speaker 11 you're not going to be able to treat everybody the same, but just treat everybody fair.

Speaker 11 And so what you try to do from the beginning with a kid like that, with a young man like that, is you want to treat him like you treat everybody else. Okay? Treat him fair.

Speaker 11 And then then you hold him accountable just like you hold yourself accountable. And that's kind of the thing that I've tried to do.

Speaker 11 You know, being around Luke Keekly, being around Thomas Davis and Brian Ehrlicher and guys like that, you know, there's something special about those guys.

Speaker 11 But they, more importantly, don't think necessarily about themselves first, but about their teammates. And that's what you see with Chase.

Speaker 11 Chase, if you watch him in practice and you watch him in the game, once after he's gotten done going through the adjustments, where do you see him?

Speaker 11 Well, he's standing over there cheering for the offense. He's cheerleading for those guys.
I mean, he's, you know, Montez Sweat gets a sack, and who's the first guy to congratulate him? Chase.

Speaker 11 So guys like that, those generational type players, are really epitomized to saying that great people, great players raise the standards and the plays of other people.

Speaker 11 And that's what a guy like that does.

Speaker 11 And you don't necessarily always try to put them in a place that they always have success individually.

Speaker 11 You put them in position that the team has success and that I think is one of the more important things because I promise you when you watch Aaron Donald they put him in position that dude's getting double teamed doesn't matter where they put him people are going oh there he is over there but guess what that does now if they're going to double team him they got to double team him someway over here and that gives opportunities for the team to be successful Because now this dude's being doubled and we've seen that he's been triple teamed.

Speaker 11 Well, that's what we have to do with a guy like Chase. We got to put him in a position that, sure, he can have success, but we can benefit from it as well.

Speaker 2 So, you we love being around football guys. You are a football guy who have been around football for so long.

Speaker 2 You've been with some of the best coaches, you've been coached by some of the best coaches.

Speaker 2 What's the lesson that you have taken from a guy like Mike Dicka and a guy like Buddy Ryan and used in your career as a coach?

Speaker 11 With Mike Dicka,

Speaker 11 honestly,

Speaker 11 and I got a real story about that:

Speaker 11 Coach Dicka never asked anything of us that he couldn't do. Okay, and I remember one time, it was during training camp, and I said, you know, and he was chewing our asses all over, just crushing us.

Speaker 11 So I said to his coach, you know, so we had a moment, I said to him, I said, Coach, what the hell? I mean, you're always honest, you're always pushing and pounding and screaming and yelling.

Speaker 11 I said, you know, why?

Speaker 11 What good comes of this? And he looked at me and said, Ronnie, I I would never ask you guys to do something I didn't do.

Speaker 11 And it hit me, it dawned on me at that moment that, son of a gun, this dude's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 11 So he has a high-ass standard. I mean, it is up here.

Speaker 11 And he believes that because he's been up there, we can be up there. And so it made me just realize that.

Speaker 11 And so of our players, I try to make sure they understand what the standard is, what's expected of them. And I think that helps our players.
You know,

Speaker 11 with Buddy Ryan, it was always about us, team, us, group, us, always us. And we fight for us, everybody else, you know, but us.

Speaker 11 And he had this way of getting everybody to pull in together.

Speaker 11 And he always stood up for us as a team and then as a defensive unit. And, you know, and I know one thing is he never wanted Coach Dika to yell at any of the defensive players.

Speaker 11 So Buddy would always take the brunt of it for us. But then he'd come back and he'd give you a piece of his mind.

Speaker 11 But believe me,

Speaker 11 you feel like, dang, dude's willing to step in for me, man.

Speaker 11 So I've always thought that, hey, you know, if something happened, I would always take the blame. I would always say, hey, these shoulders are broad enough, guys, I'll take it.

Speaker 11 And I learned that, you know, I mean, I learned tremendous lessons from being around Coach Dick, and I learned some great lessons being around Buddy Ryan.

Speaker 2 And it's a good point because you can see as a viewer, the difference in a team that is playing for each other and their coach versus a team that's a bunch of guys that are playing kind of for themselves.

Speaker 2 And it's, you know, it's the difference between championship teams and teams that are just kind of going through the motions, so to speak.

Speaker 11 Yes, yes. And I think that's the thing that you want to find out first and foremost is will everybody fit? And obviously not everybody's going to fit.
The sooner you find the guys that don't fit

Speaker 11 and get rid of them or get them to buy in, the quicker you can have success.

Speaker 7 And what are your thoughts about getting rid of ping pong tables in the locker room? Because Because I screwed up.

Speaker 7 I kind of threw Tress Way under the bus unintentionally when we spoke earlier and said that our guy, Jake, he's the best in the office at Barstool, that we had to schedule a tournament with him against Tress Way.

Speaker 7 And you told me, wait, I thought we took that ping pong table out of the locker room years ago.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 what's your feeling on like when is it time to take away ping pong table and when is it time to let the ping pong table come back into the locker room?

Speaker 11 I think when you're getting started, when you're trying to develop something and create a certain type of situation,

Speaker 11 the things have to be focused on what's important,

Speaker 11 okay, not what's interesting. It's interesting that he's the best ping pong player in the locker room, but right now, the most important thing is we're the best team we can be.

Speaker 11 And so that's kind of why, you know, when I came in, and, you know, I know I got a lot of critics, people didn't like that idea, but that's okay, because at the end of the day, that's how I'm going to do it.

Speaker 11 And one of the things I learned from watching some of these great NFL coaches, and I'm talking about the current ones, you know, when you watch Bill Belichick and you watch Andy Reid, who I had a pleasure of working for, and you watch Sean Payton and Pete Carroll,

Speaker 11 and what these guys have all done is they've done it their way. They've done what they believe is the right thing to do.

Speaker 11 Because at the end of the day,

Speaker 11 if I walk out of this building, just like I walked out of Carolina when I got fired, I did it my way. And I can say I did the best I could, and I felt good about that.

Speaker 11 And that's what I'm going to do here.

Speaker 11 No matter what happens, at the end of the day, when I'm done, said and done, and I do walk out, I do drop the mic, I'm going to at least be able to say, hey, I did it my way, guys.

Speaker 11 That I really truly believe is important.

Speaker 7 You're making a lot of sense because now that I think back through it, the vast majority of all the interpersonal conflicts that we've gotten into as a podcast over the last six months have centered around that ping-pong table.

Speaker 2 That's why I don't play.

Speaker 11 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 7 So it might be time for us to wheel that thing out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, get it out of here.

Speaker 7 It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 7 I also read that you had like an ongoing relationship with John Madden, where you introduced yourself to him when you were a teenager, and you kind of kept that up over the years.

Speaker 7 Was that something where like every summer you'd be like, okay, it's Madden week. Got to go hang out with John and hear him say cool things about football to me.

Speaker 11 Yes. What it was was, it was after my second season.

Speaker 11 My previous owner, Jerry Richardson,

Speaker 11 had said to me, you know, you need a mentor. I got the perfect guy I think you should reach out to John Madden.
So I reached reached out to coach. I called him.
We got to talking.

Speaker 11 And I said, well, I'd love to come visit. And he said, absolutely.
So I was going to fly out to Pleasanton, California, where he has his offices.

Speaker 11 And he says to me, he says, Ron, I want you to do me a favor, though. I know you've got this dubious distinction.
You're three and six, 13. Games are decided by six points or less.

Speaker 11 Go back and look at those losses

Speaker 11 and study and see what you could have done different.

Speaker 11 Okay, great. So I do those things.
Fly out to see coach, you know, I got this nice little report and we're sitting there and we're just kind of BSing initially.

Speaker 11 I mean, you walk into his office, it's like walking into the Hall of Fame. I mean, the Raiders Hall of Fame.
I mean, there's all this Raiders memorabilia. I mean, there's some really cool stuff.

Speaker 11 He has a seven-man Crowder sled in his parking lot.

Speaker 2 He does. I kid you not.

Speaker 11 Just sitting there in the parking lot. And I thought it was the craziest thing, but it's cool, but that's him.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 I go in, we start talking. And just as we're getting ready to get down to business, I said, oh, here.

Speaker 2 And I pull out.

Speaker 11 I said,

Speaker 11 here's the homework you gave me. He said, what's that? I said, well, that's that thing you had me go study those games.
He looked at me, goes, that's not for me, that's for you.

Speaker 11 I said, really? He goes, yeah. He goes, what did you learn? I said, I learned I did things by the book.
You know, I felt like, you know, I kicked the field go here when I should have.

Speaker 11 I punted when I should have. We blitzed here.
We did this.

Speaker 11 And he goes, how'd it work out?

Speaker 11 I said, well, yeah. He said, Ron, you know enough football.
You've played enough. You've coached enough to go by your gut instinct, by your experience of what you've done.

Speaker 11 That's what you need to go on. All that other stuff, and it made me realize I was doing the safe thing.
That's the safe thing to do.

Speaker 11 Because how many times, oh, well, you know, he did what he was supposed to say. I did the right thing.
Well, if it had been the right thing, we could have won. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So that's one of the things I learned from doing that with Coach Benn. And you're right.
Every offseason, up to a point, it was I would call Coach, we'd talk,

Speaker 11 and I'd say, hey, I'm coming out. I'd love to come and see you.
He said, hey, come on. And I would go see him.
I'd spend time. I've got these immaculate notes that I kept from him,

Speaker 11 and I still have them. I still read them.

Speaker 11 One of my favorite, one of the first things he said to me, he says, don't ever forget you're the head coach. You are the head coach.
He said, when you forget that, that's when you're in trouble.

Speaker 11 And I've always tried to remember that.

Speaker 2 It sounds like that was the birth of Riverboat Ron.

Speaker 2 And my question was going to be, what's your biggest regret in your career?

Speaker 2 And why is it when you tried to be Analytical Ron, the worst nickname ever, when you have the best nickname ever in Riverboat Ron? Because you do remember that.

Speaker 2 You tried to get everyone to call you that, and that was terrible. I think I had a tweet.

Speaker 2 I looked back, and it was like, Ron Rivera's trying to give himself the worst nickname of all time, Analytical Ron. Riverboat Ron is incredible.

Speaker 2 I want to play for Riverboat Ron.

Speaker 11 Yep, it does roll off your tongue.

Speaker 11 And God bless her. My wife, she went ahead and she copywrote that whole thing.

Speaker 11 She got a logo for it. I got a silver on that club car cart that I got right there.

Speaker 2 I love it.

Speaker 11 They put the logo on it. See it right there?

Speaker 2 So do you say to yourself every now and then, like, all right, it's, you know, a situation late in the fourth. You could go for it.
You could punt. You could play the safe way.

Speaker 2 And you're like, hey, you're Riverboat Ron. Like, let's do this.

Speaker 2 I don't put it that way.

Speaker 11 I do think about it at some of the strangest moments.

Speaker 11 And it's funny because one of the checklist things I go through is when would I do that I have this little checklist that myself and my my chief of staff that we review and as I go through it one of the questions is am I going for it on fourth down where am I going to go for it are we going for two what are we going to do how those types of so it's thought out before we get into it but

Speaker 11 To go back to your your original question, because I had a good answer for that. I'm trying to remember what the question was.

Speaker 2 The analytical Ron, why did you do that? That was a big misstep. No,

Speaker 11 really what it was all about was, you know, becoming Riverboat Ron,

Speaker 11 and as you said, the biggest regret I have is not necessarily that, but the biggest regret I have is initially when I put my first coaching staff together as a head coach, I did not have a guy that had any head coaching experience on my staff.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 11 And so I really didn't have anybody to fall back on. And I would feel odd every now and then, like when I did talk to Coach Reed or I did talk to Coach Turner, you know,

Speaker 11 that I was, you know, I was getting in their way. Stuff.
So I kind of, and I didn't quite have those, that, that understanding or somebody to lean back on or as a sounding board. So

Speaker 11 going to see Coach Madden really kind of opened my eyes onto, you know, hey, that's what you really need. You need a mentor.
You need somebody that has been through it.

Speaker 11 And which led me to one of my, you know, I have a bunch of sayings, but this one of my favorite sayings is, don't draw me a map unless you've been there.

Speaker 11 Now all of a sudden I've got people that have been there telling me, hey, do this, think about this.

Speaker 11 That's why listening and talking to different people like a John Madden, like a Jerry West, like a Jimmy Johnson, I mean, those things, that carries weight because these men have done it.

Speaker 11 These men have experienced this.

Speaker 11 And so when you get to that position and

Speaker 11 you're looking at having to make decisions, you know, I don't want people to necessarily think that I'm just throwing it to the wind. I have truly thought these things out.

Speaker 11 I mean, Riverboat Ron gambling on a play has been thought about before the game.

Speaker 11 You know, we do this every Friday as myself, and we have an analytics guy that sits down with me and a couple of coaches, and we go through situations

Speaker 11 that happened the week before to other teams. Fourth down situations.

Speaker 2 Punt

Speaker 2 or go for it. Field goal or go for it.

Speaker 11 Two-point conversion here or not. And we talk about those things and we discuss it.

Speaker 11 You know, I just didn't want people thinking that I'm just that guy that's rolling the dice every time I get up there and I got to make a decision.

Speaker 11 I mean, these things are definitely planned out, thought out.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 we do see the analytic numbers

Speaker 11 as well. Everybody has them.
And

Speaker 11 those are just tools to help you make your decision as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 7 Well, we consider ourselves to be kind of analytic specialists in that we specialize in exactly one game scenario. So we're going to give you a pop quiz here.
There's two minutes left.

Speaker 7 You're down by 14 points.

Speaker 7 You score a touchdown. Do you go for two?

Speaker 11 Depends. It's truly going to depend on who you play.

Speaker 11 If you're playing against, let's say you're playing against

Speaker 11 the worst defense in the league,

Speaker 11 you're going to go for two. Why? Because you're going to believe the next time you're going to score.
Yeah. Okay.
Now you give yourself a chance to win. But you do believe you're going to score again.

Speaker 11 If you're playing against one of the best offenses in the league, you may feel you may never get the ball back. But sometimes it's the rhythm of the game.
We played a game in 2013.

Speaker 11 We're playing

Speaker 11 the New Orleans Saints, and we're playing them in Carolina. It was a hell of a game.
I mean, it was an absolute great game. And I'm trying to remember to score exactly, but I think it was 13 to 10.

Speaker 11 They had the lead,

Speaker 11 and it was about three minutes left to go in the game. We had two timeouts left.
We had the ball. We're driving.
We get stopped. Absolutely stopped.
And I decide to punt.

Speaker 2 And I got crushed.

Speaker 11 We punted the ball and the commentators even said he should have gone for it. But that day, think about it.

Speaker 11 We were fortunate enough to stop Sean Payton, okay, and Drew Brees to only 13 points.

Speaker 11 All right, and I really felt we would get another chance. But I was getting killed for it.
I appreciate that. We stopped them.
They punted. We got the ball back.

Speaker 11 And I figured two timeouts, two-minute warning coming. We have a chance to get into field goal range, tie the game, and see what happens.

Speaker 11 Not only did we get into field goal range, but Cam threw the touchdown that gave us the win, okay, and we inevitably ended up winning the division that year for the first time in like eight or nine years.

Speaker 11 But the point being is that there's no two situations that I can sit here and tell you right now I'm going to do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I can't.

Speaker 11 There's nothing that tells me I know exactly what I'm going to do against our opener, against our Thursday night game, against our next Sunday game.

Speaker 11 I can't tell you what we're going to do in those first three games until we get into that situation to see how we're playing, how our opponent's playing.

Speaker 7 It's nuanced, and it's probably a smart answer. We just always say go for two.

Speaker 2 Go for two. We just learned that one thing.
Yeah, and so we regurgitate it without applying critical thinking to it. No, no, which is great.

Speaker 11 I mean, again, the best part about it is that you might not ever have to make that decision.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I always say that. You never know.
You might call us in.

Speaker 7 I play a lot of Madden.

Speaker 2 I was expecting you to say our name when you're like, Matt, you know, talk to Coach Madden, Jerry West, like in Big Cat and PFT. All right, so I have one last question.

Speaker 2 It's the mattress firm question. Unjunk your sleep.
Go see a specialist, mattressfirm.com. Get started today.
I got to know, what did you say to the defense 2006 Monday Night Football Bears Cardinals?

Speaker 2 The great comeback game

Speaker 2 when, you know, everything, they're down 20-0.

Speaker 2 You know, fumble return for Peanut, fumble return for, I think, Mike Brown.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Bears are who we thought they are, the famous game. What did you say at halftime down 20-0?

Speaker 11 I told the guys that we had basically basically outsmoted ourselves, and we were going to play man coverage for the most of the second half.

Speaker 11 We were going to line up man-to-man and find out who the better team was at this point. We weren't going to try and trick and dick anybody.
We were going to line up and go at it.

Speaker 11 I don't know if it was because of me, but I will say this. I know this much.

Speaker 11 When you watch the way Brian Ehrlicher played and took over that football game, the way the defensive line rose up, the plays that happened, I mean, those guys,

Speaker 11 it was great. It really was.
And it's a tribute to that football team that we were able to come back and win that football game. It really is.

Speaker 11 And I really do think that, you know, there are certain guys that, no matter what the situation will rise up, Brian Erlacher most certainly was one of them.

Speaker 2 I mean, you answered it, though. If you just say in front of your team, no more tricking and dicking, let's go.
We should find the play.

Speaker 11 And that really was. I mean, I go back to it and look at some of the things that I've done and said.

Speaker 11 Pittsburgh game last year on Monday night, okay? Just before the half, I figured, you know what,

Speaker 11 we got a a chance, fourth down, you know, hey, let's go for it. We were in our own territory and we got stuffed.

Speaker 11 Our defense bowed his neck. We stopped him on the goal line, got the ball back on downs.

Speaker 11 Went down, kicked a field goal. I went in a locker room and first thing I said to the guys, hey, I screwed up.
That's my fault. I made a mistake.

Speaker 11 I should have never, you know, I put too much on you guys. And one of the defensive guys said, nah, coach, we got your back.

Speaker 11 Man, when he said that, and it's something that resonates with me, I mean, the appreciation I had for knowing that that's how the guys felt about that, that was awesome. I mean, that really didn't.

Speaker 11 And obviously, we were fortunate enough to win.

Speaker 7 And my last thing, we already talked to Mr. Wright inside, so he's been very upfront with the whole name change process, and he told us what the team name was going to be next year.

Speaker 7 What do you think about that?

Speaker 11 I like the idea. I think it could be cool.
It's going to resonate very well with all of our fans. I think the logo will be a real neat logo.

Speaker 11 It'll go well for our marketing department. I think the fans are going to love it, fall in love with it, and I'm real excited.

Speaker 2 What was that name again? I was waiting for you to tell me.

Speaker 2 Believe me.

Speaker 7 That's great, Coach Speak, though.

Speaker 2 You're literally answering questions.

Speaker 2 Analytical Ron came out. The transition lenses.

Speaker 7 So when they get darker, that's riverboat Ron.

Speaker 2 When they get lighter, it's analytical Ron. Yes, it is.
That's exactly.

Speaker 11 Well, that's the crazy part. If you look at the logo my wife had made,

Speaker 11 you know, she

Speaker 11 made sure the glasses were tinted.

Speaker 2 Oh, I love it. I love it.
Well, coach, thank you so much. Really appreciate it.
Best of luck this year. We know PFT will be living and dying with every game.

Speaker 11 Well, I appreciate PFT, you know, become one of our fan ambassadors. Yes.

Speaker 2 He's honored. No, he is.

Speaker 11 I wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 2 No, no.

Speaker 7 My understanding was that I could hire and fire you at my will.

Speaker 2 Really? Put the ping pong tables back in. Well, yeah, first order of business.

Speaker 7 Yeah, if we win four games in a row, ping pong tables back in. Second order of business, you need to install some designed laterals downfield.
Yep. So to a receiver that catches the ball.

Speaker 7 So you said like you talked to people that have been there before that have accomplished things. You might have heard about my career.

Speaker 7 I played for like the ninth best rugby team in the United States back in 2011.

Speaker 7 Design downfield laterals. Just dump it off.
If you can draw them up, if you drop the plays, get a receiver open, have a guy trailing them.

Speaker 7 If you're confident that your guy can catch it, that's going to be open.

Speaker 2 That's going to be a chunk play every time.

Speaker 7 That's going to be the next revolution in football.

Speaker 7 And I want to tell you so you don't get five years down the line, you're like, damn, I really wish this downfield lateral business hadn't caught me off guard.

Speaker 7 I'm letting you know right now it's the future of football.

Speaker 11 Big Kat, you notice how I looked like I was interested?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was good. That was good.
You're good with the media.

Speaker 2 You know, I will tell you this.

Speaker 11 There is a high school football program. No, seriously, no, there is a high school football program that they've instituted that.

Speaker 11 It's all about once the play happens, it's going, now the next guy gets into position in the lateral, just like that.

Speaker 7 You got to be safe with it, and you got to drop a play, so maybe it's just one pitch per play. Don't try to break the framework of football with it.

Speaker 7 But you see it happen occasionally where they do a hook and ladder, yeah, boys, but you know, there's other ways of drawing drawing that up that's not just a strictly hook and ladder.

Speaker 7 That I actually think will change the game soon.

Speaker 2 Just letting you know, take your lead, you're ahead of it, analytical ride.

Speaker 2 All right, well, thank you so much, coach. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 11 I appreciate you guys. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 7 Now, here he is, Pro Football Hall of Fame President, David Baker.

Speaker 2 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 we are here in Canton, Ohio. We're at the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
We're here with our host, the Prez

Speaker 2 President David Baker. Can we say for friend?

Speaker 2 Friend?

Speaker 2 Yeah, friend.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 2 Thank you for having us. This was incredible.
We did a whole tour. Just incredible.
Like,

Speaker 2 it was a football guy's or girls' dream to walk through the halls of Canton. So we appreciate it, and we want to say thank you very much for a wonderful day.

Speaker 2 We have something important, though, we have to discuss. So for listeners of this show, people who know, but maybe they need a quick recap, our goldfish, Larry, Larry 2.

Speaker 2 The 2016 NFL season, he went 60% picking against the spread. One of the greatest goldfish of all time, if not the greatest.
True football guy through and through.

Speaker 2 He passed, tragically, and we then, in the summer of 2017, buried his body in a tree, under a tree in the shadows of Canton, in the shadows of the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.

Speaker 2 In the stadium park. It was in the, yeah, right, right behind, right by a nice, beautiful stream.
We had a bunch of people

Speaker 2 show up.

Speaker 7 It was a somber evening, but it was a celebration of his life. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes. In an even more heartfelt moment,

Speaker 2 probably one day afterwards, we've got a cryptic message from a terrorist organization. It was probably just a couple of drunk guys.
They had robbed his grave.

Speaker 2 They had literally stolen the dead body of our goldfish. We never talked about it because we actually thought it was

Speaker 2 such a horrific thing. We didn't want to give them any type of light or give them any credit or anything like that.
Flash forward, we're here four years later.

Speaker 2 We go down trying to find Larry's tree, the tree that we buried his body underneath. The tree is gone.
It has been cut down.

Speaker 2 I don't know why. Stolen.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 Deforestation is a real problem in the world. I didn't think it had spread to Canton, Ohio, but apparently it has.
And

Speaker 7 to say that we were heartbroken would probably be an understatement.

Speaker 2 PFD and I were standing by the river having an apology off, demanding apologies from each other because we couldn't figure out where the tree was. I was like,

Speaker 2 Cat's like, No, there's no tree here.

Speaker 7 And then I was like, No, I don't. And then we got mad at each other, and it was all because some vandal, it's not enough to steal the body of our dead goldfish.

Speaker 7 They had to go ahead and steal his grave marker, too.

Speaker 7 Now I know how the ancient Egyptians felt. Yeah, I know why they built pyramids to keep grave robbers out.

Speaker 2 It's, it's, I think it's a sign, though, that Larry

Speaker 2 and his spirit, his soul, don't deserve to be outside. He was an indoor fish after all.

Speaker 2 So what do we have to do to get Larry into the Hall of Fame? A remnant,

Speaker 7 a token, a trinket,

Speaker 2 a sticker in the archives. Somewhere.
Somewhere. Well, we can certainly put him in the archives, okay, because we collect all of these.
That was easy. Jeez.
All right, okay, thanks.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you've met John Kendall. Yeah, it was incredible.
You write us a letter. We can put it in there with the letters we have from Walter Camp and from

Speaker 2 Teddy Roosevelt about the game and everything like that. But I need a heartfelt letter from you guys.

Speaker 2 But in your history, if I could kind of put in one other thing here.

Speaker 2 We met for the first time, what, about two and a half years ago? Yep. I think it was Super Bowl 54

Speaker 2 in Miami. And you came to my room and I couldn't get you out.

Speaker 2 I mean, you guys, you know, kind of like squatters. You guys stayed there the whole deal, raided the mini bar, all of that stuff.

Speaker 2 But you told me the story of Larry, and we started thinking about Larry and stuff like that. And we started, how can we heal that hurt in you that is deep, core, seated,

Speaker 2 that, you know,

Speaker 2 about a loss that, you know,

Speaker 2 you get somebody to tell you 60% against a spread, I mean, you're losing a little cash in that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right, yes, yeah. So

Speaker 2 what our staff have done, you've met John Kendall, our archivist, and we've got a lot of guys like this that are, I mean, they're the best in history, they're in preserving history and the documentation of it.

Speaker 2 We've got 6 million pictures, 40 million documents, a whole lot of artifacts here. What you see in the museum is only 2% of what's here.

Speaker 2 So what we did was we especially recruited this goldfish right here. Okay.
This is not Larry, but this is Goldie. Goldie? Goldie is a gold jacket.
goldfish.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 And Goldie has been around our gold jackets. Goldie has been in the archives for about the last year.
Really? Kind of just by osmosis, picking stuff up from the archives.

Speaker 2 All our Hall of Famers.

Speaker 2 John Kendall and all the guys there. How do I know you didn't buy this goldfish today?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 7 I don't think you would lie to us like that.

Speaker 2 Would you lie to us about this goldfish? You know, our values here at the Pro Football Hall of Fame are commitment, integrity.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 Goldie is a very special goldfish.

Speaker 2 It's not our Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I'm going to say it right here. It's right there.
It's a Hall of Fame. It's clearly from the Hall of Fame.
But I think when you take this back with you,

Speaker 2 we have to take this with us. We don't realize we're on a bus.

Speaker 7 And we don't have a great

Speaker 2 gift, and we've nurtured this thing

Speaker 2 so that you could get, I think you could maybe get 65, 70% against a spread on it. I just want you to know, because what you're doing right now is you're passing off a murder of a goldfish to us.

Speaker 2 So I want you to know your hands are dirty in this. Yeah.
Because this goldfish isn't going to make it. We're going to Cleveland and then Buffalo.
It's not making it to Buffalo.

Speaker 2 If you want, we can keep it in our archive. Okay, yeah, you keep it.
We will take care of it because we don't want anything to happen to it. Yeah.
Because, again, this is a special goldfish.

Speaker 2 Okay, sir. This is a gold jacket goldfish.

Speaker 2 No, no, no.

Speaker 7 That's art of the deal right there. You guys may not know.

Speaker 2 You guys may not know, but I'm a lawyer, too. So I jump criminal law.

Speaker 2 The last thing I'd want to do is be implicated in anything the two of you do. Yeah, no,

Speaker 7 it's also like possession is 90% of the law. You currently have possession of the goldfish right now.

Speaker 2 But we'll keep it. But just like everything in our archives,

Speaker 2 there's stuff like that that's donated to us, and we're stewards of that. Yes.
So we're going to be a steward of your goldfish. You will own this.
Yeah. But we will be stewards of this.

Speaker 2 And we'll write a letter.

Speaker 11 We can write a letter.

Speaker 7 I also think maybe what we can do is, can we send you a trinket or some sort of fish toy representing Larry?

Speaker 7 Maybe a tiny plaque commemorating Larry to put inside this goldfish tank to be with this goldfish. That way there's

Speaker 2 a corporation.

Speaker 7 And as long as that's in the bank.

Speaker 2 You want a million dollars as well. Okay, you want a million dollars? I want a million dollars.

Speaker 2 Let me make sure I'm hearing this way. You want...
to donate a million dollars to the Pro Pobo Hall of Fame. It's a not-for-profit corporation.
This is

Speaker 2 such a great moment. Give me the Lombardi trophy.
I don't know. You were saying yes to everything, so I thought we'd just push the limit here.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, Lombardi, I think it's wonderful of you to make that kind of donation to the hall.

Speaker 2 And I want you to know that we can give you a charitable deduction for it because we're not-for-profit corporations.

Speaker 2 So it's incredible. I'm paying you to donate.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 2 With all the money you guys are making,

Speaker 2 it's easy. $72,000.
We do this for the game.

Speaker 7 $82,000. Yeah.
$8,000.

Speaker 2 All right. So this is actually great.
So we're going to, we had such a great time, and we're going to talk about it. We'll tell everyone, go to to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, go to Canton.

Speaker 2 I think what we'll do, though, is we're going to have an official letter with maybe even a list of the games that Larry picked in his win-loss record with possibly a trinket is giving Billy is going to have to do all this stuff.

Speaker 2 And we're going to send it to John. And

Speaker 2 really, if we're just being honest here, a little sidebar between just the three of us guys.

Speaker 2 If John throws it in the trash, that's fine. Just tell us he didn't.

Speaker 2 And we're cool with it. it.

Speaker 7 Just tell us that it's in the hall thing somewhere.

Speaker 2 Right. He can throw it away, but just you tell us that it's here.
Yeah. Well, it's,

Speaker 2 we will take good care of it, Dr.

Speaker 2 John.

Speaker 2 I will tell you, while we have a lot of fun, we are real serious about the history of the games. I mean, hopefully John was able to show us.
Oh, it's incredible.

Speaker 2 You know, there's right now there's about 355 bronze busts here.

Speaker 2 And the line to go through there during enshrinement is like a couple hours long.

Speaker 2 And people stand in line to go through.

Speaker 2 But what I will say is everybody who ever played the game, I've got a son who played the game. He was a first-round draft choice, 23 overall

Speaker 2 by the Atlanta Falcons in 2008.

Speaker 2 They'd also picked Matt Ryan to protect, Sam was a left tackle to protect his blindside.

Speaker 2 He's got an archive here. Everybody who played a week has an archive here.

Speaker 2 We want to keep their history, not just what they did, but if they want to come in here and be on camera with us, we can put in what they learned from the game and not just what they did, but who they are.

Speaker 2 And if you were to go downtown, there is Centennial Plaza, which is, I think I mentioned this last time we were talking.

Speaker 2 The good people of Canton raised $12 million. I mean, who else does this for the NFL? Right.
But they raised $12 million for a park that commemorates the first hundred years of the NFL.

Speaker 2 And our archivists spent about a year and a half, and we've got listed down there all 25,474 names of the men who played in the National Football League during its first century. Wow.

Speaker 2 And I'll tell you, again, I know you guys get emotional about Larry, but you know, I do this every day. I keep history.
I get to meet the greatest football players to ever play.

Speaker 2 But when I went down there and saw my son's name,

Speaker 2 I'll tell you, I remembered

Speaker 2 the eighth grade when he said he wanted to play football, and then he started making goals of what he wanted to lift and what he wanted to do. And,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 these guys have a history, and their history involved a lot of other people and a lot of other sacrifice and something special. And they are the shoulders that this game stands upon.

Speaker 2 So, you know, we'll be glad to take care of Larry. I mean, we've got all the mascots and everything else for all the teams.
He's more than a mascot.

Speaker 2 But we are real serious about

Speaker 2 the archives and the history of the game and the legacies that these guys have left behind.

Speaker 2 Even if you don't have a bronze bus.

Speaker 7 I was talking to John a second ago about the fact that I don't think it's a coincidence that the Pro Football Hall of Fame is in Canton, Ohio, and every football coach either comes from Pittsburgh or this area of Ohio because this is their amusement park that they go to.

Speaker 7 Some people grow up and they go to Bush Gardens or they go to Disneyland because that's close by.

Speaker 7 I think people in Ohio take their families to the Pro Football Hall of Fame and that gets in their heads from a young age.

Speaker 7 Like kids that might not be athletic enough to play football at the highest level, they grow up. This is what's fun to them is finding out about the history of the game.

Speaker 7 I actually think that this place gives birth directly to a huge number of professional football coaches.

Speaker 2 Well, we think there's a lot of values here and everything, but let me kind of take that one step farther, PFT.

Speaker 2 You know, we'll have the Ohio State Buckeyes here on Thursday.

Speaker 2 You know, Coach Day will bring them. They'll practice on Tom Benzo Hall of Fame Stadium.
They'll have lunch here. I'll get to talk to them for 20, 30 minutes, and then

Speaker 2 they'll tour the museum as well. He believes that's important for them.
The New York Giants will be in here on Saturday.

Speaker 2 Every year,

Speaker 2 Coach Belichick, who is a great student of history, brings the Patriots here.

Speaker 2 And I think that what you're talking about, it's not only great to know the game and the shoulders you stand upon, but these days there's so much parody in the NFL

Speaker 2 that, frankly,

Speaker 2 the difference this year, the difference between what will be 9-8 and 8-9 might get you in the playoffs. And that comes down to two or three games.

Speaker 2 And those two or three games kind of come down to some character moments for that offensive line or for a great receiver or quarterback. And I think

Speaker 2 I know those guys. I know Coach Belichick and those guys feel that understanding the character of the game here and what guys have done might help them that little bit more that they need.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right. Well,

Speaker 2 this has been an incredible day. So thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 7 Thank you for admitting Larry into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 we will sell John something. We will send him something.
And we appreciate your friendship. He's not going in the bronze bustroom.
Yeah, no, that's fine. That's fine.

Speaker 11 He's not getting a gold jacket.

Speaker 2 No, it's completely. We already had one, actually.
We put one on him when he buried him. But they're not getting a ring of excellence.

Speaker 2 But he will be included in the archives of the Hall of Fame Flight.

Speaker 7 We're just playing a semantics game where we're saying he's in the Hall of Fame because technically in the walls somewhere.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 7 that's our department.

Speaker 2 You'd actually be surprised how many people do that. Yes, yes.
Well, we're in. But you know what, guys? It's great to have you with us.
Yes. And

Speaker 2 every time I've been with you, I've had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 But I also appreciate the seriousness stuff and

Speaker 2 how much you guys respect the game. You'll have fun, but you'll respect the game and those guys who play it.
That's a fact. Thank you.

Speaker 7 All right, thanks for having me.

Speaker 7 This is a magical place. If you haven't come to Canton, Ohio, you should come check out the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 Thanks, guys. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's get to Mount Rushmore and guys on checks is what we're calling it.

Speaker 15 So before we get to Mount Rushmore, we drove 1,700 miles of old Highway 61, the whole country top to bottom, just to prove one thing.

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Speaker 2 Mount Rushmore, Jake, Billy, you guys won, so you get to decide. You get to decide the order.
You get to decide anything you want. Why don't you introduce it?

Speaker 2 We'll go.

Speaker 10 What is it?

Speaker 2 Oh, yo.

Speaker 7 It's the worst places to fart. That was Jake's idea, by the way.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I was going to go.

Speaker 9 No, it was on the list, submitted.

Speaker 2 Okay. Okay, you chose it.
Yeah. You did choose it.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 The worst place, not the best place.

Speaker 2 The worst places to fart. I'm trying to give credit to.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 so what's the order? What's the order?

Speaker 2 We're actually going to go

Speaker 2 big cat first and clockwise. Whoa, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm going first. Back-to-backs.

Speaker 2 Worst places to fart.

Speaker 2 I will say, I will start with a crowded elevator.

Speaker 2 I'm assuming all these farts are loud too, so people can see and they notice. They're like, hey, you're the guy.

Speaker 7 When I was making the list, I was thinking loud and also that they smell. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 7 you can't get away with it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 people just look at you. Crowded elevator, it's also the combo of that.
And the fact that it's usually strangers in an elevator, you'd say, well, strangers doesn't matter as much. No,

Speaker 2 weirdly, our brains work. We're a stranger, it's almost matters more.
Because if you're in a place with a crowded elevator with people you know, you're like, ah, whatever, I farted. People laugh.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right. So crowded elevator, that's my first pick.

Speaker 10 My first pick will be, that was a good pick. That was my first pick as well.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 10 Airplane.

Speaker 10 Same thing with strangers. You know, you're going to be sitting next next to them for X amount of hours.

Speaker 10 If you let one rip and they hear it, they might look over and not say anything, which is even worse because you're just sitting there in shame.

Speaker 2 Can't escape it. Can't escape it.

Speaker 10 They're probably going to get off the plane and be like, I sat next to this dude who ripped the loudest fart.

Speaker 7 Yeah. What an ass.
You know what's also really bad about that?

Speaker 11 There's nothing you can do.

Speaker 7 When you're on a plane, that's usually the place that you want to fart the most, or you need to fart the most.

Speaker 9 I will say that helps in the mask era.

Speaker 2 Yeah, true. True.
But yeah, it's the same plane.

Speaker 2 And also on a plane, I think everyone here has probably farted on a plane. You know, you're like, hey, can I get this off without, and then it's just like, oh, no.

Speaker 10 Or if you've had those on and you don't know, that's. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yes. That was.

Speaker 7 You don't know that you farted?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Does it happen? Well, you don't know if it was loud. You know he farted.

Speaker 7 Have you ever farted and been like, I didn't know?

Speaker 2 We'll get through that. Okay, okay.
Maybe.

Speaker 11 All right. My first one, it's a pretty simple one.

Speaker 7 In a car while you're on a date.

Speaker 7 Especially if it's a new relationship, still getting to know each other. There's like a

Speaker 7 month or two feeling out period sometimes before you really just

Speaker 7 let the cheeks go. And when you're in the car, there's no escape in it.
Although, on the other hand, kind of like on a plane, after they get out of the car, that is top three fart.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes. Okay.

Speaker 7 My first pick will be during an interview.

Speaker 2 First impressions are everything. Yes.

Speaker 9 That fart could be the end of your job.

Speaker 2 Yes, it could. And your career.

Speaker 7 Oh, like a job brothers.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes. Step brothers, yes.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 12 Then for a second pick, we're going to go with in class.

Speaker 2 Ah, good pick. So you guys are both picking in this Mount Rushmore.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 9 I was still part of my team. It was load management.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's right. That's right.
That's right. Okay.
Good picks, guys.

Speaker 2 Good picks, guys.

Speaker 11 Someone's salty.

Speaker 7 All right, my next one.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 10 may not pick.

Speaker 9 I'm going to say.

Speaker 9 My teammate wouldn't let me.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. Okay.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go with in a library because it's a double whammy. One, it's silent.
Everyone looks at you. And two, it's like insult to injury factor of you being in a library.
Big time. Which

Speaker 7 if you're not farting.

Speaker 2 Silence and then maybe a wooden chair.

Speaker 2 Terrible.

Speaker 7 Making a bad situation even worse.

Speaker 10 I'm surprised this got back to me, but I'm going to go with a subway.

Speaker 10 This did happen when I was living in Brooklyn. I had headphones.
I was going to work. And, you know, when you're going through, you know, gaseous periods, like you have farts, you know if if

Speaker 10 they're loud or if they're silent. Like, it's not like a one or the other.
It's usually like you have a spell of gas and it's you're either ripping ass or it's just silent, maybe, but deadly.

Speaker 10 I had been, you know, going through some silent but deadly ones. So I got in the train, I had my headphones on, the fart comes.
I'm just like, yeah, these, these have been silent all day.

Speaker 10 Just let it go. And like three people turned.
It was like kind of crowded. It wasn't like, you know, chest to chest, but like.

Speaker 10 People from both sides turned after I did it. And I knew like that was not silent.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 people, people are brutal.

Speaker 7 You know what the worst is when you're in a situation like that, and you know that you're going to get tweeted later, even if they don't know if they're not like, hey, this is Hank from Barstall.

Speaker 7 But you can just tell if they're a certain age that they're going to wait till they get off the subway, and their next tweet is going to be like, This guy just was on the L-train and this guy just farted next to me.

Speaker 2 It's going to be a fucking yik yak. Yeah, it's going to be all over

Speaker 7 all over the yikiak.

Speaker 2 Um, I'm surprised this got back to me during sex. Terrible time to fart, horrible time to fart.
If you're having sex and you fart, it's really a like, because it's also, you know, bare ass.

Speaker 2 There's nothing, there's nothing really stopping it. It just happens.
And then what do you do? If it just smells, then it's really bad.

Speaker 2 You can play that off.

Speaker 2 It's bad. It's bad.

Speaker 7 I mean, if you're getting pegged, it's tough to squeeze it out.

Speaker 2 It's a bad scene.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 7 You got to plug yourself up.

Speaker 2 And then I'll go with a work meeting. So multiple people.
When you're in a conference room and you're sitting there and you fart, you guys did interview, which I think is different

Speaker 7 because you're not hired yet.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about a work meeting.

Speaker 12 I'm just screwed up by the order.

Speaker 11 Oh, you just went, you gave one

Speaker 2 sex,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 7 And then he doubles and goes back around.

Speaker 2 I've lost the sake of snake, I'm lost. You lost the snake? Yeah, work meeting.
I lost the snake. Work meeting is a terrible time to fart.

Speaker 2 Agreed.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I have to do that.

Speaker 2 You got to do the thing where you stomp your shoes when you fart, so everyone kind of mask it.

Speaker 7 You guys ever cough?

Speaker 7 I cough when I fart sometimes. Yeah,

Speaker 10 I'm running out of pics here. I'll go with the doctor's office.

Speaker 2 Good one.

Speaker 10 Because then they're gonna be like, you know, what's going on there?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And you're like, I don't know. I had pizza for lunch.

Speaker 7 Son, are you okay?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 10 Do we need to get in there and inspect it?

Speaker 7 Are you dying?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Like, that smells like something's wrong with your bowels.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then I. Wait, wait.
Nope.

Speaker 7 Nope. You just went.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Billy screwed up the whole fucking snake. Billy.
Billy, you killed the snake. All right.
I'm going to go with funeral.

Speaker 7 Fart out a funeral. Probably not a good.
I've never done it, but I can't imagine that it would be fun.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Probably get a lot of leaves.

Speaker 2 The only like

Speaker 2 okay part, I mean, it's not okay to fart at a funeral, but if you're like in a funeral home, those kind of smell weird, so you can kind of like mask it a little, but yeah, it's not a good thing to fart at a funeral.

Speaker 7 Also, if it's like a really funny-sounding fart, I could actually see that breaking the tension in the room a little bit. Yeah, especially if the person that just died loved farts, yeah.

Speaker 7 Like, you know what? That's him looking down from heaven above.

Speaker 2 Life finds a way. All right, you guys have two picks now:

Speaker 12 uh, crowded sauna or steam room.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, because one, no one's talking, yep, two, you all are in close proximity, and the heat magnifies it. I think sauna, I think steam room is worse because of the wetness, yeah,

Speaker 7 gross. I can hear it, yeah,

Speaker 2 I taste it a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It gets aerosoled.

Speaker 2 You're right. That's bad news already.
Gross. All right.

Speaker 9 And our last pick will be in a pool because there's visual evidence.

Speaker 7 The bubbles.

Speaker 2 The bubbles up.

Speaker 2 I see a little dissension in this team.

Speaker 2 And what are we going to say?

Speaker 11 That's literally the easiest place to hide apart.

Speaker 7 No, because it bubbles up a bit.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Who's looking? Just splash.

Speaker 9 Or fake it and try to get our team points.

Speaker 2 Sounds like Jake got yikyaked

Speaker 2 about a fart in a pool. No.
Oh, okay. All right.
This is.

Speaker 2 You guys have not been able to do a draft together in a while because last time you kicked Jake out. It's tough times.
Guess what? It resulted in a win. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 PFT, your last pick.

Speaker 7 So all of mine got picked.

Speaker 2 All of them did.

Speaker 7 Does getting head count? You said sex.

Speaker 2 I think that counts.

Speaker 7 I think head's worse.

Speaker 2 I think that counts, though. I think it's like any type of sex.
Oral sex is sex.

Speaker 7 But the face and nose is so much closer.

Speaker 2 I mean, okay.

Speaker 2 I think that's the same thing, but

Speaker 2 I'll put it up to the room for a vote. I don't want to.

Speaker 7 I mean, you did kind of pick two with your first pick.

Speaker 2 I'll give you a head. In a car while on a date.
Yeah, you did. So you could just, you could just.

Speaker 2 That was bad, Hank.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you could just split your picks up. That was good.
You could just split your picks up. We had a date on our big board, too, but it was taken.
Yeah, you did in a car on a tenth.

Speaker 7 I think it's too late to split it up, so I won't say getting head.

Speaker 7 What about giving head?

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 7 Well, then I'm just going to say after you're already dead, because then you don't get the pleasure of farting. Okay.
It's just annoying people around you.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 7 I don't know. I had to add a lib on that one.

Speaker 2 You do a dentist. From the grave? From the grave, yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, farting, like, you know, in the next, like, two minutes after you die, when your body is still...

Speaker 2 You could be a G and say a helicopter.

Speaker 7 It's a worst place. On my private plane.

Speaker 2 You wouldn't hear it on a helicopter.

Speaker 10 But,

Speaker 10 all right, this, I think, is a little bit different because Big Cat says sex, but that, you know, you could be having sex with anyone.

Speaker 10 Mine is more specific where it's like it's in bed if you're with someone you're not too familiar with. Yes.

Speaker 10 Like similar to PFTs, like you said, like a month or two, after a while, farts can be like an icebreaker. They're funny.

Speaker 2 And you're still

Speaker 10 feeling it out. And like, you're not having sex.
You're just in bed, maybe she's sleeping over.

Speaker 2 You're Netflixing, chilling, and you're farting. And then you can rip a fart, and it just, you know, fish bowls the sheets.

Speaker 10 And she's just like, she knows it wasn't her.

Speaker 2 That can, you know, ruin a relationship. I think this is one of those Mount Rushmores that, like, it's a cell phone because I do think I dominated this, and I still have a pick left,

Speaker 2 which means I just fart way too many times in bad places.

Speaker 2 But the easiest, I'm surprised this lasted directly after a sneeze because everyone looks at you like dude You can't control any part of your body like you're just a fat piece of shit

Speaker 2 So that is the worst because then everyone just laughs at you and like that sucks you you not only sneezed But then you're so like your asshole is so loose that you farted too. Oh, yeah

Speaker 7 Like anytime that you're doing another motion, and people can tell what the mechanism was that pushed that fart out correct So like if you're squatting if you're doing a squat and you and you fart at the bottom people are like that's really embarrassing I had on my list tying your shoe yeah when you when i go to or doing any type of athletic movement and everyone's like playing your ping-pong in the triple s yeah your body can't yeah that's true

Speaker 2 your body can't like your body can't do two things at once without just farting like it's just a terrible experience to have bending over

Speaker 2 like jumping up

Speaker 2 Everyone's like, dude, you can't. You can't just do anything without farting.

Speaker 7 It's air hitting the ejection seat in your body. It's like, I don't know what's going on here, but we're about to crash.

Speaker 2 Yeah, again, I think this is a cell phone of a Mount Rushmore because I don't know what that

Speaker 2 means. I dominated the worst places to fart Mount Rushmore because I have so much experience.

Speaker 10 Why does that make it a cell phone?

Speaker 2 Because I have so much experience of just farting at terrible times.

Speaker 10 I still don't get what a cell phone has to do with that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 7 Are you talking about...

Speaker 7 Are you saying a cell phone? Cell phone?

Speaker 2 Oh, a cell phone.

Speaker 2 Are you serious?

Speaker 2 I'll be honest, I heard cell phones in. Really?

Speaker 2 It makes more sense.

Speaker 2 Moral and many things, I think.

Speaker 10 Cell phone makes more sense.

Speaker 2 I'm confused. You understand my confusion? Yeah, yeah, now I do.
But I did not understand. I was like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 I basically outed myself as a terrible farter, which I don't think is a surprise.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 All right, let's finish up the show.

Speaker 2 A cell phone?

Speaker 7 You know, it's not a bad place to fart, hypothetically? In Roger Goodell's chair.

Speaker 2 Hypothetically. Yes, hypothetically, it is not a bad place to fart.
All right.

Speaker 10 Do you guys like farting in the shower?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Dude, I like farting everywhere.

Speaker 2 Pack bar, that's also was a good, that was a miss. A pack bar.
You can get away with it. You get away with it, but you're just a terrible person.
I hate you. You start with that.
You're sweating fun.

Speaker 10 You're drunk. It's just like, let's, you know, let's have some fun, guys.
Ready for this?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Watch me fart and just watch, like, watch as everyone just has to move out of the way.

Speaker 10 And then just start yelling at your friend. Be like, tell your other friend, like, we're just going to start yelling at him.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 What about

Speaker 7 real quick? You want to do four best places to fart? Like, just amongst us, just like a list of only four. The shower.
Shower great.

Speaker 7 In bed by yourself. Yeah.

Speaker 2 When you're lost.

Speaker 2 Road trip or like car ride.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And getting off an airplane, I would say.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Also, maybe going out of a movie theater. Yep.
That's also pretty nice. Movie theater is also a terrible place to fart.

Speaker 12 A bubbling hot tub.

Speaker 2 Oh, good one. A little yin-yang for Jake there.

Speaker 2 All right, let's do, let's finish up the show. Hank, what do we got?

Speaker 2 It's guys on checks. So we're talking about grit and work, hard work.
So we figured we'd do something a little different for Grit Week.

Speaker 10 It's work advice people sent in.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 How do you alpha a boss who plays power games?

Speaker 7 I think it depends on the type of power games that they're playing.

Speaker 2 I think you play into them.

Speaker 7 I think you let the boss think that he's winning. Yeah.
And Sue, Art of the War.

Speaker 2 Incept him. Incept him into thinking every idea that's yours is his, and then, or hers we're a progressive podcast girl boss

Speaker 7 and then so that way they think that they're kind of controlling everything but really you are I think also a really good way is if you get a compliment at work you should tell everybody that oh it's really your boss that like set you up for that even if it's not yes and then that will trust me the dividends will be paid much more that way than just being like thank you for the compliment yes hey boys happy grit week so I have this thing where I shit and I like to use wet toilet paper.

Speaker 10 When I shit at work, I'm in a stall and have no access to a sink, and as a result, I bring a water bottle in with me. This usually ends up with water all over the bathroom floor.

Speaker 10 And the other day, a co-worker questioned this and I explained my system. He looked at me like I was a psychopath.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let me just say that.

Speaker 2 Am I the only person that does this? Yes.

Speaker 7 Thanks, boys.

Speaker 2 Wait, say it again?

Speaker 7 They bring a water bottle like

Speaker 2 a spring water bottle. No, I shall.

Speaker 7 So that they can wet their own toilet paper with it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, where when I shit, I like to use wet toilet paper.

Speaker 2 Dude Dude wipes. Buy some dude wipes.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Buy some dude wipes.

Speaker 7 Yes, you are a psychic.

Speaker 2 That's insane. Buy some dude wipes.

Speaker 10 Hey, banging chains, boys. I currently am an arborist and go to people's houses to tell them.
I thought that was going to be one of your words you laugh at, yeah.

Speaker 2 No, you nailed that.

Speaker 10 And tell people's houses to tell them what's wrong with their trees. Some of the people at these houses are attractive single women.

Speaker 10 What's some advice on getting myself into a Johnny Sins kind of situation?

Speaker 11 Talk about wood.

Speaker 2 There it is. Do you like wood?

Speaker 7 I figured I noticed that this tree needs some trimming.

Speaker 7 Wow, this wood's really hard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You want me to take care of your bushes too while I'm here? Wow. Like that? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Wow, this is a really, really big piece of wood that you got right in your backyard. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Do you like it in your backyard or should I?

Speaker 2 Should I bring it in through your back door?

Speaker 2 You literally are like, that's the easiest question of all time. You're built for terrible sex puns.

Speaker 7 And also being an arborist seems like the biggest crock of shit job.

Speaker 2 You just show up in someone's house be like yo that tree sucks you're gonna get some tweets you're gonna get some tweets being like dude you don't know what happens when a tree gets infected

Speaker 2 just you just show up and you're like yo that tree that that tree sucks too soon that tree's gonna fall on your house yeah after what happened to our tree i think that's all too soon that's true which which tree the larry tree oh yeah that we talked about at the beginning of the show which we didn't tape till after hard knock so it gets a little you guys haven't been sorry people pretzel right now yeah it's hard we're we're we willingly don't talk about certain things and then have to not reference them which we just did and now here we are folks i'm i'm thinking ahead yeah i know you are i'm willing to to go on the job as an arborist for a day and just show america what a crock of shit is tree cancer is not a joke dude not a joke worst thing that you have to do at your job is probably like throw a chain around an oak tree branch what about what about uh what about what about fire ants bring them on fire ants you know i hate

Speaker 2 you up

Speaker 12 Identifying kudzu versus native plants.

Speaker 2 I can identify kudzu. Whatever he just said.

Speaker 7 No, kudzu is an invasive species.

Speaker 2 What about bees' nest? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 That would suck.

Speaker 7 If you have to go. But no, but then you call up the beekeeper.

Speaker 2 That's their job. I don't think the beekeeper always comes out.

Speaker 7 My job stops where the branch ends.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 So we'll see.

Speaker 7 Some fellas, especially girdle cat.

Speaker 10 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 Is it because I wear a beater? People thought I was wearing spanks. I wear a beater every day.
What's What's a girdle? I don't know. I think it's a good thing.
It's the thing

Speaker 2 that's around.

Speaker 7 Like, have you ever seen an old Victorian TV show where they like tie up the chick's back and then she's like, oh,

Speaker 2 is that a corset?

Speaker 2 Yes, corset. It's good for back sweat.

Speaker 2 I have a sweaty back. That's so my ass cracking back.

Speaker 2 I mean, I would wear one of those.

Speaker 2 Little spanks start wearing spanks. That video showed perfectly

Speaker 10 why you wear an undershirt and what happens when you don't.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 Yeah, PFT even said it while we were frolfing. He was like, why why aren't you sweating, big cat? I was like, I have a beater on.
It was, yeah,

Speaker 7 it was honestly disgusting. It just takes up all the sweat.

Speaker 10 I'm 28 and next in line for a big promotion when my boss retires. He's 63 and has said he thinks he has a few years left in him.
How do I get him to retire early slash tomorrow?

Speaker 2 Kill him. Thanks in advance.

Speaker 7 Yeah, either you have to kill him or you have to start sucking so bad at your job that he wants to quit and get away from you.

Speaker 2 You throw him in front of a train, Frank Underwood style. Whoa.

Speaker 7 Spoiler. Yeah.

Speaker 2 True. that is but no you can actually

Speaker 2 spoil that show because you can't watch it because it's canceled in space it's canceled you can watch the last season yeah i actually tried to watch just this the series finale i was so confused because i hadn't watched the last season it honestly sucks after the second after the first season it's yeah replace all this coffee with decaf

Speaker 7 that's a great idea billy that is the meanest

Speaker 12 killing him would have been nicer because no it's not like actually bad but he's like oh man i'm tired all the time i can't do this anymore

Speaker 2 that If you do that to me, Billy, I will kill you.

Speaker 12 Or soy milk.

Speaker 2 Soy tits.

Speaker 12 A little estrogenic action.

Speaker 2 Start giving the idea.

Speaker 2 He's like, either I could quit or I have to start wearing a bra.

Speaker 7 I think

Speaker 7 you could try to get him addicted to something. Instead of getting him off an addiction, you could start sprinkling just a little bit of heroin into his cigarettes.

Speaker 12 But then he'll enjoy the job more and like be like, I can do this forever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I gotta get to work.

Speaker 10 If something happens when I go to work, I just feel great.

Speaker 2 All right. Kill him.

Speaker 10 I teach at an elementary school and I'm one of three three male teachers in the building. Any ideas on how to promote sports/slash sports gambling talk at the water cooler in the teacher's lounge?

Speaker 10 Tried doing a March Madness bracket last year, and most brackets had the team with the cutest mascot winning.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Those ones usually do well.

Speaker 7 Well, first of all, I disagree with the take that just because you work with all females, that they wouldn't be into sports gambling.

Speaker 7 I think they just are all looking to talk about sports gambling, but they think that maybe their coworkers don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 What I would do in this situation is you have to do it very slowly.

Speaker 2 You got to start doing like random like, hey, bet I can't like, you want to bet me I can't hit this shot, like throwing something into the trash, little stuff like that.

Speaker 2 And then they'd be like, oh, that was fun. Double or nothing.
If you double or nothing, someone, you can have a bet going for life.

Speaker 7 You could also just start off by relating it to their actual job at work. So you could say like, hey, if the Sixers win tonight, I'll clean off your chalkboard for you for the next week.

Speaker 7 And then get, like, start doing some inner office.

Speaker 2 Do they sell chalkboards?

Speaker 2 I was like, that made sense to me, so I think we both outed ourselves.

Speaker 2 Whoever the person is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're right. That's actually a good chore.

Speaker 7 Whoever the person is that sold whiteboards to every school in America, that must have been the most lucrative salesperson job ever for like 10 years.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. And the markers, fuck those markers.
They fucking, after like three times, you can't use them.

Speaker 7 Can you still smell? Expos.

Speaker 9 Yeah, because if you don't put the cap on it,

Speaker 2 do they still have the sniffing markers? Okay. You probably.

Speaker 2 Okay, I can't compete with that.

Speaker 2 Like, we should end the show.

Speaker 2 I think I have to retire no cap. Yeah, Jake just killed it.
I think Jake

Speaker 2 of No Cap. I think that's it.
I think that's it. Let's do numbers.
That was Billy Brady. Oh, my God.
I was always complaining. Oh, that was incredible.
No, don't say anything else.

Speaker 2 That was a George Costanza walk-off moment for you.

Speaker 12 Tom Brady's son is now a ball boy at the Buccaneers camp, so he's going to be handling Tom's.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 No, I mean, like, not just no cap.

Speaker 12 like, he now has a very complicated individual in his deflate gate.

Speaker 2 Got it. Okay.

Speaker 12 Anyway, also, I'm going to be doing, go to the part of my take, TikTok, follow it, watch the videos. All of the draft orders for 8-team, 10-team,

Speaker 12 12-team, and 14-team leagues will be in a TikTok. Go to the TikTok, follow it, please.

Speaker 2 So basically, if you ask for a draft order, just get all your names in a row, and then Billy will pick. So if you have an 8-team, he will show you exactly what the order is.
Random.

Speaker 12 Over a thousand people, leagues contacted

Speaker 12 in emails.

Speaker 2 So, efficient way to do it. Very efficient.
So, you're going to do it when we get back with the lottery machine.

Speaker 12 No, I was going to do it for tomorrow.

Speaker 11 How are you going to do it?

Speaker 12 I was just going to do random ones.

Speaker 2 Okay, cool.

Speaker 11 So, it's random, my brain.

Speaker 2 All right, nice. All right, speaking of random numbers: 75, 99, Jonah,

Speaker 12 69.

Speaker 10 Jonah's got five.

Speaker 2 Five? Got five. Here we go.

Speaker 2 24.

Speaker 2 24. Kobe.

Speaker 7 Sharks are all about that.

Speaker 12 Sleep when you're dead lifestyle.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's there.

Speaker 7 Just say the puppies one again with the elephants.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was fucking awesome.

Speaker 7 Say the elephant one.

Speaker 12 Elephants look at humans like humans look at puppies.

Speaker 7 Love you guys.

Speaker 15 And now a dramatic reading of

Speaker 2 Take On Me

Speaker 2 by

Speaker 2 Aha.

Speaker 17 Talking away

Speaker 17 I don't know what I'm to say

Speaker 17 I'll say it anyway today isn't my day to find you

Speaker 17 Shying away

Speaker 7 I'll be coming for your love, okay

Speaker 2 Take on me

Speaker 17 Take on me

Speaker 17 Take me on

Speaker 17 Take on me I'll be gone in a day or two.

Speaker 17 So needless to say say of odds and ends, but I'll be stumbling away, slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 17 Say after me, it's no better to be safe

Speaker 17 than sorry.

Speaker 17 Take on me. Take on me.

Speaker 7 Take me on.

Speaker 2 Take on me.

Speaker 17 I'll be gone in a day or two.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 17 things

Speaker 17 that you say.

Speaker 17 Is it a life or just to play my worries away?

Speaker 7 You're all the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 17 You're shying away.

Speaker 17 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 17 Take on me.

Speaker 17 Take on me.

Speaker 17 Take me on.

Speaker 17 Take on me.

Speaker 2 I'll be gone

Speaker 17 in a day.

Speaker 17 Take on me,

Speaker 17 take on me,

Speaker 17 take me on,

Speaker 17 take on me,

Speaker 17 I'll be gone

Speaker 2 in a day.

Speaker 7 It's part of my take presented by Barcelona Sports.