Ryen Russillo, Andre Drummond And Suns In 4

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We got to do it more. We got to do.
I went away from it being like, hey, we should do this more often. So it was that good enough.
Yeah, we don't do it enough. We don't see each other enough.
Andre Drummond as well. One of those interviews that I think he loves us because he did not expect us to ask questions that we asked.
But a great interview.

We're going to talk NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup, stays in Tampa,

Euros, and Fyre Fest of the Week.

And, of course, we have guest producers Jake and Youngstown Bob

and PMT Memes in the house.

So they'll contribute to Fyre Fest as well.

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Boys! Boys! Boys! Now in the street there is violence And then a lot of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no, we. We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue.
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Today is Friday, July 9th. And PFT, are we really going to do this thing? Are we really going to do the thing where we start every podcast with Suns and Four? Suns and Four.
Because we just started the podcast with Suns and Four. Suns and Four.
Hey, Big Cat, do you notice anything different about me? Your hair's lighter. I use Sun and Four.
Yeah. Sun and Four.
Well, I do follow you on all social media accounts I did cheat on this test yeah Sun and 4 that's why I'm doing it to support the bros in Phoenix oh my god the bros we'll get to the bros I mean let's just say it right now there are moments in Phoenix where it just feels like it's Coachella or Burning Man, but it's an NBA Finals game. We both clipped certain fans that like, and then they showed the pregame, the guy, what was his name? Oh, it was Dallin.
Dallin. Dallin Huso.
Dallin Huso. You make that up like, I don't know.
That is the name of the Burning Man. If we did that as a fake name, people would be like, dude, that's too far.
No, Dallin Huso is the ultimate. He's the Suns bro.
And you know what? I've noticed also that the Suns fans, they have such an eclectic look amongst them, but they all come together to create the perfect energy inside that stadium. You'll have one guy wearing a Suns shirt and a Browns hat, guy like wearing a Yankees jacket over his Sun's jersey with no undershirt.
They root for all different teams outside of basketball. But they're here for the Suns.
But they're here for the Suns. And when they're in 8K, it hits different.
It hits a little bit different in 8K. It's way different than when they're showing like the British fans in 8K.
And the cameraman has a guy that got stabbed earlier that morning

and then a girl that looks like a guy that looks like me

and then six guys with braces to choose from.

But yeah, the Suns fans in 8K,

it made the viewing experience that much better.

It was incredible.

So let's talk about the game.

So the Suns, well, let's start with the Bucs.

Giannis was incredible.

Giannis deserves more help. Giannis, well, he deserves more help.
He actually just deserves his max players, Chris Middleton, to play like a max player. He had 42.
He was doing it all, like everything that he wanted to do. And maybe that was the Suns' strategy, like, hey, Giannis will get his.
No one else will get theirs. But Giannis but Giannis was like exceptional it was reminiscent uh maybe not to the level but that that finals game the the classic uh J.R.
Smith game when LeBron had like 50 he had like a 50 point triple double in a loss to the Warriors in that game one like this was a Giannis display he was the best player on the court and he had no help because Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday were a combined 12 for 37 and we had this discussion the other day that uh Paul George gets paid a lot and he deserves a criticism because he gets paid a lot Chris Middleton gets paid 33 million dollars a year like Chris Middleton has had moments in these playoffs but you need him to play better than what he played in the in the game tonight five for 16 and one for six from three like you just you can't win with that you cannot win with that when that's your second best guy and a max guy and Giannis at the line to his credit he was shooting the ball a lot faster tonight I think he was averaging like eight and a half seconds nine seconds per free throw and I think he, 13 to 20? Yeah, he was actually not bad. A decent night by his standards, a very good night by his standards.
11 for 18. So that's pretty good.
That's really good, yeah, for him. So he can't do it all on his own.
His left knee, every time he hits the ground, I get a bad feeling about it because his body is so freakish that he was able to come back this fast. But you can tell it's not 100%.
But it's pretty close, which is crazy. It's kind of terrifying to think that the stuff that he's doing out there is when he's not 100%.
He was doing that thing that we always say that LeBron should do every time he gets the ball, which is just put your head down and drive to the basket. And he was just running people over left and right.
was such like violent encounters at the rim that there were like three times that somebody just got knocked on their ass as he was going out for a layup or a dunk. And the refs didn't even do the thing where they blow the whistle and make a call one way or the other.
Yeah. They're just like, that's a fair play.
That's good, clean defense. Giannis is just that much stronger.
He's that much stronger. And then the Suns, so everything I just said about the Bucs, the opposite for the Suns because the Suns, that was a complete team game.
All five starters in double digits. It felt like they all had their moments.
Like, Mikael Bridges, well, Jay Crowder comes out. He's hot the first.
He hits his first, like, few shots. Mikael Bridges carried them in the first half.
Then Devin Booker goes absolutely insane. Like, everyone chipped in.
Everyone played well. Devin Devin every single time the Bucks felt like they were making a run every time they got it to five or six and it was a game pretty much the entire game because they would come back the Suns would just hit a huge shot in their face and obviously everyone will show that one possession which was phenomenal where everyone on the team touched the ball and it was like kind of a scramble drill.

And it was just like that's a team that is playing cohesive basketball and everyone knows their role and they all fit perfectly.

And you can't beat that with one guy.

And I feel bad for Giannis.

He was trying to get us free tacos.

Free tacos if the Bucs won tonight.

You can't just tease us with free tacos,

bringing back the Doritos Loco, the fire taco, right? You can't just tease us with that and then not give it to us. Come on, Taco Bell.
We watched the game. We tried to support you.
I did love that possession, though. It was incredible.
It was don't shoot until everybody touches the ball. That's a possession that your dad will email to you in a week when he sees the video online and be like, hey, remember when I used to coach your team back when you were eight years old? This is what I preach.
Fundamentals. Devin Booker following his shot.
He followed his shot all night long. Yep.
I would like to see the statistical breakdown of Jay Crowder's performance as it relates to how likely the Suns are to win. If he shoots over 50% from three, because he's not afraid to shoot.
No. If he shoots over 50% from three, how often do they win the game?

Because I would imagine that's the tipping point.

See, Malcolm Gladwell, fuck you.

I can be smart too.

That's the tipping point for the Suns offense because you have a chance

of beating them if the role players don't contribute like that.

But if they do, you have no chance.

Yeah.

And like I said, Mikael Burgess, in the first half, he carried him. He ended up with 27.
Also, shout out our guy Frank Kaminsky. He had a trillion again.
But let's just point out, not only did he have a trillion, so he had one minute, no stats, but he was a plus two in the plus minus. Oh, wow.
Huge. So how about that? Yeah.
And you know what? No turnovers. No turnovers.

A clean game from Kaminsky again.

Yeah, and he logged minutes.

Wait, is he playing a perfect final so far?

Yeah, he is.

Keep your eyes peeled on that.

He's a plus two overall.

Yeah, but he's got a perfect stat line going, zero turnovers.

He could be one of the first people to ever do that.

Let's get it done.

I think Giannis scored like 20 points in the third quarter. That was insane.
I do for pat conington i said that out loud while we were watching because the bucks bench is short and they just don't they don't have enough guys especially when their guys aren't playing and he's out there he's trying his fucking best and there's still moments where it's like oh he probably shouldn't be in an NBA. He probably shouldn't be playing 34 minutes in an NBA finals.

But he's out there trying.

I keep thinking that he's Dante DiVincenzo.

Yeah, who's out for the season.

Out for the season, yeah.

Yeah, that hurts.

I think that this could be a different story if Dante was in there.

Yeah.

Is he actually still on the Bucs?

He is, yeah.

I think he is.

Yeah, he just, what is his ankle?

I don't know.

Broken ankle?

Something.

I love that guy, though. DiVincenzo.
I'm going to look at it right now. I will say something good about Bud he just, what is his ankle? I don't know.
Broken ankle? Something. I love that guy, though.

Di Vincenzo.

I'm going to look at it right now.

I will say something good about Buds.

Are you looking it up?

Because.

Oh, yeah, he's still on the Bucs.

We like to have some fun with Buds on this show.

I don't think he got outcoached as badly as he did in game one tonight.

No, he, I'm not going to pick on the halftime show, but Jay Williams did happen to say that the Bucs weren't making any adjustments. They made like a million adjustments in the first half.
They were trying everything defensively to stop them. And so I agree with you.
It just simply comes down to the fact that you can't have your second and third best player no show a finals game. Likenis did more than enough that if Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday just make like three or four more shots each it's a different game and it sucks because you waste a performance like that from Giannis but man like you just you can't have those guys no show like that well I just saw I just updated the uh the box score here took an assist away from Chris Paul.
So he was at nine at the end of the game. They brought him down to eight.
Can you imagine if the PMT sons and four bed had hit at 10 and then they took one away after the fact? I couldn't. So it's a blessing.
So it's a blessing that he didn't get to 10. Also, I just love this series cause it's two and all on the over and it was a life too short to bet the under day because that second quarter was terrible and then they just that's the NBA baby I think the Suns ended up taking I think they went like 20 for 40 from 3 that's pretty yeah 20 for 40 from 3 that's actually look we're a Suns podcast we think it's Suns in 4 but think that that stat, 20 for 40 from three, is even more on the side of Giannis is so incredible.
The team went 20 for 40 from three and only won by 10 points. Giannis kept them that much in the game when they were shooting that well.
They shot 48.9% from two. Yeah, they were on fire.
And then 50% from three. They're a really fucking good team.
The Suns are just a really, really good team. And they're a team, back to that possession, they just play.
Everyone knows their role, and all the pieces fit so well together. Where you just see it.
You see it. They have every single thing they need.
And Chris Paul at the helm. I don't know.
Suns and four, although I do think the Bucs will win. I want it to be Suns and four because, as we've said, Suns and four is just a lot of fun to say.
You know what? It's not really a saying. It's more of just a mentality.
The Suns could win this series in a gentleman's sweep, and that's still Suns and four. They still won four games.
It It's just all about – sometimes it's about the journey, not the destination, man. But I'm looking at campaign stats here.
Do you remember tonight when Mark Jackson was like, the offense should run through campaign right now? Well, it was when he – I think it was the moment when campaign, there was like a one-on-four, Cam being the one, and he shot a three-pointer. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's just the respect that campaign gets and his three point shot is it's ugly but it works sometimes champagne campaign is that what they said has moments where he really does like for stretches of a game it was probably a three or four minute stretch tonight where he does think that he's kobe bryant like he thinks that like listen everyone get out of my way i'm not passing passing the ball. It's my game.
Mamba mentality. You got to have it.
It's Mamba mentality with not the Mamba skill set. Is there anything worse than having maybe the worst player? I'm not saying this about campaign, but I'm just saying about another team that has like the last guy off their bench with the Mamba mentality.
First, you have to have to have the Mamba physicality to get to mamba see i like the like if you're first if you're a role player if you're a bench guy having the mamba mentality is not always a bad thing because you want a guy coming off the bench who's like hey he could catch fire he could like he he could do some things like pushing it a little bit so i like what campaign does i'll put it this way what What if what if Billy football had Mamba mentality? That would be a problem. That would be a problem.
That would be a big Jake. The guy sits next to actually is Mamba mentality.
Yes. Yes, absolutely.
He's more Jake's more like Tim Duncan. That's silently like incredible.
Silently the goat. All right.
So sons, I do think the Bucks going to win on sunday night um it is now the sons are going to win this series i'll just say it i think you agree yeah sons are going to win i i'm actually going to revise i think it's going to be a gentleman's sweep i'm rooting for sons in actual four but i think it's going to be four to one i do think though, that Giannis is going to have a legacy resurgence in a loss

in this series. Because

in the Brooklyn series,

everyone's like, Giannis, like,

limited player. Well, no, he was going up against

Kevin Durant, who, you know,

however you want to argue it, one or two

best players in the NBA.

He's not as good as him, but he still

is really, really fucking good

and a superstar in every facet of the game.

I've always heard that role players

play better at home. I don't know how true that is.
It sounds like it's a really good thing to say and a smart thing to say. So that's what I'm believing is going to happen in games three and four.
So they'll get some contributions from Middleton. Obviously, he's not a role player.
And Lopez. And Dana Beers.
And Dana Beers. I was asking, is Dana going to be up there i i think so i assume so he's got an invite from back to are yeah he's got to go so he he is he is the definition of a role player who will play better at home he is a a son's fan in a milwaukee body yeah that's that's the perfect description of yes that is um right, let's talk some other sports.
The Stanley Cup is staying in Tampa Bay. Tom Brady, the town that Tom Brady lives in, those stats continue to be ridiculous.
I think we went over it. Like every Bay Area team when he was growing up won.
When he went to Michigan, like the Red Wings and then Michigan football. then the Red Sox, the Celtics.

Everyone won in Boston.

Now in Tampa, you have three titles in less than 12 months.

And you've got a World Series that was barely lost by the Rays.

Yep.

So Tampa was just incredible.

The one thing that's nuts to think about,

obviously everyone goes to the UVA, losing to UMBC, coming back and winning it all the next year, right? That is the ultimate redemption tour. I think the Tampa Bay Lightning's might be right behind that because the tweet, the famous tweet, I'll read it for everyone.
This was after they got swept by the Blue Jackets in round one. The Tampa Bay Lightning main account tweeted, we don't have any words and we know you don't want to hear them.
We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness. Everything you're feeling, we get it.
This isn't the ending we imagine and certainly not the one we wanted. Thank you for being there the entire way.
And then they went and won back-to-back Stanley Cups. That's pretty much perfect, right? With the help of the no-cap lifestyle.
Yeah, which I will not. We're not capologists in hockey.
I'm not going to argue it because I know that other teams, the Blackhawks might have done it. So it may be a little different because Patrick Kane got hurt in the middle of the season.
Right, and this one, Kucherov got hurt last year. Correct.
During that season. Correct.
And then they used a special exemption this year. But you know what? If you're playing by the rules they give you, can't really complain about that.
And you know what? It's absolutely 100% something that Belichick would do. And also, Andre Vazilevsky, I probably butchered his name, he was incredible.
The stat that I saw last night, he is now five straight series closeout games had a shutout but that's incredible wait what about what about game four because they didn't win game no in five straight closeout games yeah so no in in five straight series the closeout game the game that they ended up winning not the one the last game of the series he has had a shutout five straight. I was a little bit confused about that because I was thinking back, and I was like, wait, I thought they were talking about clinching games.
No, so he pitched a shutout in the Stanley Cup final last year against Dallas. Then every game that they won the series this year was a shutout.
Yeah, he's a maniac. That's incredible.
Me and Fights were talking about, as we watched the game together, that if his name was just a little bit shorter, he would be a household name. Yeah.
But Vasilevsky, it's just like, if it was Volevsky, everybody would be like, yo, that's Valley. Or just Ski.
Or just Ski. Vesky, yeah.
Vesky. He needs a sweet nickname.
Like Van Beesbrook, that's a long last name, but the Beezer. Yeah, the skier.
The skier, Vesky. Yeah, Vesky actually works.
Vesky plays. Andre Vesky? And I'm going to do something I never thought that I'd do.
I want to take my hat off to the Tampa Bay Lightning fans. Not third leg Greg.
Not third leg Greg, but the rest of them. And not the people that sat around me and hit Nate in the face no Nate deserved it Nate deserved it Nate

would admit that he deserved it deserved it um but they they seem like a decent group of fans yeah and I think they have do they have the longest sellout streak in the NHL that seemed to me like that's just us thinking oh they're a Florida team they can't be that good of hockey fans but apparently Tampa Bay Lightning fans are actually like very dedicated no the the I mean I my time in Tampa Bay has only been during the Stanley Cup playoffs, so I don't know what a regular season game. I'm sure it's just as good, but it is an electric environment.
Everyone is locked in. I also would like to add the fan that followed me into the bathroom in 2015 and said he was going to beat my ass while I was wearing full pads, pissing at the urinal.
And I could not defend myself because he could have just grabbed me by the back of the jersey. Sweater you while you're pissing? I would have been fucked.
Sweatered with your dick out? Yeah. He does not get included in the great fans.
There was one guy that was sitting right in front of me and he threatened to have me kicked out because I was a Caps fan. And then he like you probably didn't even pay for these tickets you probably can't even afford them what is it that you do and I was like I own a professional basketball team in New Zealand and then he just looked at me and I was like do you own a professional basketball team and his wife was staring at him now and he goes yes just like completely lying about it but absolutely not you can't get big dick by the guy behind you

that looks like kid rock with aids so it was uh it was that besides that guy i'm taking that guy that guy out too um i don't think we own the water dogs at that point but it's smart to not mention the water no that someone says something because then they would have the one up you would been like okay yeah at least i don't own that yeah like that's the worst that's not something to brag about. No.
Shout out

to Waterdogs. We had two guys

on the reserve. All-star

room. don't own that yeah like that's the worst that's not something to brag about no uh shout out the water dogs we had two guys on the reserve all-star reserves i don't know how that works two guys a lot of the superstars don't like to play in the all-star game because yeah it's like management yeah who's our degrom yeah uh drew sider drew sider's our yeah he's our degrom we he needs an enforcer You know, like the guys don't want to do the skills competition either.
It's become like, okay, too risk of injury at this point. So it's almost better that you get on the reserve.
Remember Andy Dalton was like a Pro Bowl reserve for something like three years in a row? Mitch was in the Pro Bowl. That's true, yeah.
And everyone did the whole meme because it was Deshaun, Mitch, and Mahomes all in the Pro Bowl. How long into this season? Let's just say, hypothetically, Justin Fields lights it up.
And he comes out of the gate like first month. Why does it have to be hypothetically? I'm just saying the first month he throws like, I don't know, 15, 20 touchdowns or something like that.
And then runs for another 10. Great.
So if he does that, do all the memes about here's what Patrick Mahomes has done compared to the Bears quarterbacks in the time frame leading up to this year,

do those go away?

Do people just stop making fun of Bears quarterbacks?

No, it's going to take more time.

It's probably going to take more time.

I don't want to give it up that easy.

No, I mean, Young Sound Bob, you're probably – you love it because it has shifted.

Like the emergence of Baker and then Mitch, like the bad quarterbacks, has shifted to to the bears yeah like i didn't watch the draft this year yeah right yeah fuck you uh the guy who runs the cbs sports account like i he's out of the job at that point yeah he every single like he basically does it's it's dana beer doing beers doing the beer tweet he's like oh i need engagement do the bears tweet uh- the Bears quarterback tweet. And then half of the engagement is just people tagging you.
Hey, remember that your quarterbacks all suck? Yeah, I do. I remember.
I remember. All right.
Sneaky, awesome sports weekend. McGregor on Saturday night.
Wimbledon final. Federer.
Where's Jake? Oh, Jake's not here. Jake Marsh decided not to show up because his goat Federer choked.
Is Djokovic still in it? Yeah, I think he was. As early as yesterday, he was still in it.
Yeah, I don't. So I haven't followed up on that.
News travels slowly across the pond. I'm going to watch at least 10 minutes of the Wimbledon final.
I'm going to have strawberries and cream. I actually don't know if I'll watch 10 minutes.
He is. Who's in it still memes? Berrettini versus Hercuts.
That's made up. Wait, who's playing against Djokovic? Djokovic versus Shapovalov.
You're talking about Sharapova? No, Shapovalov. Shapovalapo...
I got Joker in four sets. Four sets.
I do, too. I have Joker to win the whole thing.
Is anybody going to be watching Wimbledon in England? Is the crowd going to be completely empty there? It is a lot of... Yeah, I mean, it's like 8 a.m., so no.
That's actually a great day. Just go to Wimbledon, get fucked up there on some champagne, then go drink some warm beer and watch it come home.
I feel like the crowd is just going to be just pounding beers, probably starting at about 10 p.m. the night before.
Yep, absolutely. All right, so should we do? We got a little Fantasy Lads.
Well, yeah, so, I mean, the finals, it's at Wembley Field. We've been saying it's coming home for the last several weeks.
So we thought that we'd bring back one of our favorite segments from football season. Yes.
The Fantasy Lad Boys. Fantasy Lad Boys.
Are you ready? Yeah. Okay.
Oi! Oi! It's me, Nigel Garribson. They said we're not coming home.
It's coming home. Right? It's coming home, isn't it? It's, what's his name benet benedict cumber bitch me and the lads we're gonna head out we're gonna pull a couple richards and tune some things only though we're gonna head some some beer i'm just reading kb's tweets with all the slang hey wait bloody blood clot uh they said the british would have their heads hung like a chicken.
I say some chicken. My boy's got a free yard, so go rock up to us with a few fat tinnies, then roll a fat Zimmer and be lick off.
Right, innit? Wait, wait, whoa! What for bloody H3 double cricket pass is that? Who are these boys? What the fuck is this? It's me, Giancarlo Montepulciano. It's Agio.
My mama is gonna make fucking sundae sauce out of your rotten teeth, England. You pieces of shit.
You think that you can fuck with Italy? My friend, my friend, you're gonna meet the paisans. Some real fellas this weekend.
What's up? It's Tony Rabioli. We're gonna be watching the game down on the Jersey Shore.
DJ's in my car. That's all I got.
Hey, I didn't prepare anything. It's coming Rome.
It's coming Rome, bitches. We've never even been to Italy.
We just fucking love Italy, alright? I just fucking love my great-grandfather's from Sicily, so go fuck off. I love Sopranos memes.
Chef Boyardee. Hell yeah.
Yeah, Sunday gravy. I took a 23 in meat test.
0.01% Sicilian bitch. Oh, fuck yeah, but you better see my fucking license plate.
It got the Italian flag on it. Hell yeah.
Hey, I'm fucking parking over here. Yeah.
All right. That's your Euros preview.
That's a fancy fuck boys. So we've said it's coming home.
Yeah. I'm switching.
I'm record scratch. I'm on Italy this weekend.
Well, so we had this discussion beforehand. When you're watching sports that you don't really have a true rooting interest, because I have no English.
I have no Italian. I don't have a rooting interest, right? I'm rooting then for ultimate tragedy in the most epic way.

And there's nothing more tragic than Wembley and the crowd shots that will occur if England finds a way to lose.

And after our discussion on Tuesday about how likable the English fans are,

I have to say kind of left a bad taste in my mouth with that Harry Kane penalty.

Like, one, that was not a penalty on Raheem Sterling. Two, I don't think you should be able to rebound a penalty in soccer.
Why not? I don't know. I just feel like you should get it.
If you miss it, you miss it. I think that what the loss should be, they should be more lax on the goalkeepers being allowed to take a step or two off the line.
Yeah. Or not allow the person to score on their own rebound.
You can't make it that tough on goalie because it was a great save that he made. Right, it was, and that's what I'm saying.
And you can't be expected to hold those types of saves. Exactly.
So I think they need to change the rule. If you miss it, you miss it.
It's a fucking free throw. I would hit 9 out of 10 PKs.
Baggio never went after his own rebound. That's just a fact.
So, yeah,'m excited for that game. I'm very excited.
You know, I think I realize it's a combination of I like the Sopranos memes more than I like the it's coming home memes. Because it's coming home memes and it's fun to say until it actually comes home.
And then you're like, wait, what do I do with it now? Now that it's here, I don't have space for it in my house. So I decided that uh the the italian memes are way better plus when you have a take on a sport that you don't know that much about and you're being proven correct on it like my take on chiesa being an awesome player i i'm rooting more for my own selfish brain right as a narcissist to believe that i am a good soccer analyst than i am for british people to be happy That was like that Italy-Spain game when it went to PKs.
Like, Italy was laughing it up, yucking it up. Spain looked like they were so scared for their life.
And I was like, Italy's won this just from body language alone. When you play tiki-taka soccer like the Spaniards do, you look like a coward if you're losing.
If you're getting your asses kicked and you just try to do that triangle stuff all the way down the field and you can't get past midfield you look like a coward. It is funny that Spain just like they just pass they forget that you have to shoot.
Their shooting button's broken on FIFA. They're like you can always get a little bit closer.
Yeah there's always a better shot. A better shot.
Yeah. Keep passing the ball keep passing the ball we'll get there.
Their offense is like the Suns' half-court offense, except they don't have DeAndre Ayton to pass the ball. Yeah, they need a Harry Kane.
Yeah. The tap-it-in merchant.
Harry Kane, he's going to look like, what's the other? Harry Styles? Harry Styles. They're going to make him look like Harry Styles this weekend.
I just love the tap-it-in merchant. It gets everyone so upset.
Also, people are starting to call them Pengland because they scored too many PKs. It's true.
It is true. All right, let's get to our interviews.
We have two great interviews. Ryan Russillo and then Andre Drummond.
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That's getroman.com slash take. Okay, here he is, Ryan Russillo.
Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It's been too long.
We want to make sure he didn't fall off the top 10 recurring guest list, which I think you might have, but you're back in it. It's Ryan Russillo.
Who's ahead of me? I actually think Titus might have leapfrogged you. I think Titus might have leapfrogged you.
That's fair. Dan Heron, maybe.
Mr. Portnoy.
Yeah, Mr. Portnoy.
Ryan Whitney. That's okay, though.
Lenny Dystra. You're number one in my heart.
Pro athletes? Look, I'm competing with pro athletes all the time. That's fine.
Yeah, number nine in our program, number one in our heart. So, Ryan Russillo, The Ryan Russillo Show, great podcast.
Go listen to it right now, but listen to this first. So, let's start here, NBA Finals.
So, as you know, sons podcast we're the number one sons podcast in the world is there do you are you rooting for anyone in these finals like you don't actually care about these finals right right so obviously you guys are making fun of how much i love chris paul um i did a weird video where i said at the end of it i was like he's everything you want a player and maybe even a son and then the people that didn't get it it were like, Hey, you should have edited that out. Cause I say like, leave it in there.
And it was kind of the way to close the whole thing. I would put these finals, like we were talking about it the other day.
Like if you think of all the finals were a team, like for me, it'd be the Celtics. Right.
And then you go, okay, how many finals did I care as much about who won? And a lot of times it's you rooting against somebody Barkleyley, Suns, 93, I'd probably care about that one more than the 08 Celtics-Lakers. I would put this one probably behind one of the Steph ones, the first Steph one of 2015.
But yeah, Chris Paul getting this, if he gets it. This will mean a lot to both Chris's family and mine.
So let me ask you this. If you were to select one player from each team that you would want your hypothetical non-existent daughter to date, I'm guessing Chris Paul would be the one from the Suns.
And then who on the Bucs? Chris Paul, though, I don't know if I'd want him dating my daughter because I feel like if he brought her home late, then it'd just be a huge argument. He'd be like, no, that's not.
There was traffic and you don't understand. And I'd be like, well, which way did you go? And then he'd be like, that's not the way to go.

You're wrong.

You don't even know the area.

And I'd be like, what are we talking about?

Like I've lived here forever.

So I think he's very combative and he'd want to win every game

and he'd want to win every argument.

So that one might be a little tougher to deal with.

I'll throw a name out there.

I got one too.

Yeah.

Oh, Aiden.

Baby Shaq.

I was going to say –

Wedding in the Bahamas. Yeah.
Max Deal deal coming up he does look older though than like you like aiden has the old face going so that always serious yeah it's it's weird i don't know he he really does look like he could be 40 and he's 22 or whatever it is um he also got paid in college which is that's a big red flag for his character that's true huge legal now that he was a disruptor no see you guys are so behind the times now if you do something wrong when it was wrong everybody's like 15 20 years later it's like what are you talking about now you're like wait a minute none of the rules apply like if we ever legalize murder can you imagine oj's tweets he's like i was a political prisoner i was people

forget when you were on the life episode you said you gotta kill at least once just to see if you like it did i say that yeah it was a great line it was a very well delivered line it feels it feels like it's a little out of context now but yeah i i think i remember something like that and just try to deliver it deadpan and it's like wait a minute do you ever want a job again maybe you shouldn't do this with people who don't know you um all right so chris paul so if uh you're you're

hypothetical that and just try to deliver it deadpan and it's like wait a minute do you ever want a job again maybe you shouldn't do this with people who don't know you um all right so chris paul so if uh you're your hypothetical son so let's say you you have a son let's let's go 20 years from now he's playing uh high school basketball and every 20 no he's still in high school well i mean it the the the pregnancy takes at least 10 months are you going going to get, let's say in a year you find. Okay.
All right. Right.
You know, the whole thing happens. Not right this second.
That was smart. Okay.
Now I understand the math. I gave a little buffer.
Yeah. I'm like, my kid's that dumb? Yeah.
Well, he could be. But anyway, so you're like, all right, this is my son.
He's got everything that Chris Paul has. I love this kid because he's so competitive.
And then every other play flops do you say like hey son I love you so much no my dad used to do this with me after my games like if I had a bad game um you know we we get in the truck because you were construction and it had the signs on the side of it f-150 cherry red and um we'd park we'd go and park somewhere after I had a bad game. And he'd say, Hey, I just want to let you know, you decided you were going to have a bad game on the ride over here tonight.
Wow. Was he right here? Yeah.
Was he right? It was unbelievable. I mean, he was, he was, he was a big time motivator for me and he knew he always had to kind of piss me off to really get the best out of me.
Like, he's like, you don't play well until you're really mad. And that's when you're at your best.
And he's like, if you're not going to be like that, then we're not going to show up to these games anymore, which was ridiculous because we were definitely still showing up to the games. But I would do something like that with Chris Paul or a version of my son that was just like Chris Paul.
And I would be like, look, you know, I'm here for you. Your mother loves you too.
We're trying to do the best with a custody arrangement. I'm sorry about the mistakes I've made, but you've got to stop flopping.
We'd have a part. We'd maybe grab a sub, split a sub in the front cabin of the truck because that's what my dad and I would do.
And yeah, I couldn't. That'd be tough.
That'd be really tough. But I don't think he flops the way that other guys flop, and I know everybody's going to push back on that.
What? No, he's right. He's better at it.
Yeah, he does it more. He does it so much that he almost hurts himself.
Did you notice, and I know you love Chris Paul. I mean, we are the number one Suns podcast, but you came to the Chris Paul thing like last week.
I saw it. We've been on the train for like at least three weeks.
Yeah, I just started started to like him when he got pushed by pat beverly he did kind of flop at the end he grabbed his face and then he realized wait we're winning this game by 20 i'm good and he stood up and he like celebrated i saw that differently i gotta be honest with you this is like this is frank kaminsky i saw frank kaminsky beat the fuck out of pat beverly and everyone else saw something different have Have you ever been pushed in the back like that, though, when you're not ready? We're lucky. That's like getting rear-ended at 25 miles an hour.
It's the thing that they throw people out of pickup games for if you're driving to the hole and somebody pushes you in your back when you're jumping up in the air. It's actually the most vicious version of assault.
But it hasn't. I've never had it because I'm not a dickhead like Chris Paul.
Here's what I would say about his flopping. I don't like any of it.
And the fact that anyone continues to call when the guard is bringing the ball up and he just stops and gets run over by a big guy and they give the guard the foul. With all these changes everybody's talking about, all you'd have to do is get the rest together and say, hey, we're just going to stop calling it.
And after a few weeks, after you turn the ball over, you take a terrible shot and it goes over the backboard and Trey Young or James Harden looking around or Chris Paul gettingul getting run over these guys will stop doing it once you stop calling it so i hate that play too but i think paul does those especially because it's in front of everyone you know that stop in transition get run over and get the call it's so egregious and horrible that it's probably thought of like in a worse sense in the best by the basketball community then guys just flop to the lane every time. I mean, Harden actually will pull your arm into his body, take the shot, and the other guy's arms are pinned, and then the ref calls it all the time.
I can't believe that has ever been called more than once for any player in his career because we see it all the time. So I actually think there's more floppers on shots and also on drives than Chris Paul.
But when Paul does the deal where he lets the guy run up his back, it just looks so much worse because it's the only thing we're looking at. I also think that Chris Paul, we need to give him some credit because on a lot of these flops, if he hadn't have flopped, he was about to get hit like a half second afterwards.
You can see like he has pre-crime in his head and he knows like, hey, here comes an elbow as well flop before it hits me and then you know as he's down the ground the elbow does swing through his airspace so it's almost like you know he sees he's a good point guard he sees the play before it happens yeah a lot of it I think comes out of just being incredibly competitive but that's where Harden fans or other fans of other guys I mean look we all know what we're what we're doing. We're all sticking up for the guy that we like, but I still think with Paul, it doesn't happen as frequently as it does with the other guys.
And so that's why I feel a little differently about it than just extending out the legs every time. I mean, look, Steph, who I love started doing it more this year than he's ever done it before.
Cause he's like, look, if you guys are going to keep calling this stuff, I guess I'll start doing it. it so I don't really blame the players for doing it I blame the refs for allowing it to evolve to this point where guys are now mad Trey Young gets mad while the guy's about to whistle like the ref is about to give him the whistle and Trey's already mad at him and then stays mad because it's like you weren't quick enough with the whistle of the bullshit call that I just earned so I I think you're in the right.
Kyle Lowry, douchebag, everything he does is terrible. Chris Paul, hero, you want him to be your son.
That's how we can kind of sum it up. Yeah, yeah, perfectly.
All right, so the Suns are going to win this series, right? I think we make mistakes all the time at playoffs, man. We really do.
And say the Suns get game two and they're up 2-0. The desperation level for Milwaukee at home for game three, I say this every single year because I just think it's on point, is you can't fake desperation.
You can't be as desperate as Phoenix will be, or excuse me, as Milwaukee would be. Like, you can say the right things.
You can do the cool chants, win on three. Suns come running out of the tunnel.
But you're up 2-0 in human nature. It's kind of like when there's a lead.
Phoenix was totally in control of that game, I thought. They knew they could do whatever they wanted.
Milwaukee changed their defense three or four different times. Phoenix was actually surprised sometimes, I think, when they get switches.
You could see Devin Booker be like, oh my God, I can't believe how much time I have to make a decision on what I want to do next. I'm like, okay.
Then you're up 20. You feel like you're in control.
Milwaukee goes small and you're a little, you know, you're mailing in a little bit like the seven, eight minute mark of the game. And then Milwaukee got it to seven.
And you're like, wait, this is a game. Like, how is this a game? Cause it hasn't felt like this.
So I think, I think the same thing applies in series and, you know, they'll figure out something with Lopez. You know, they didn't bring them back to close this game at all.
The same thing happened in game one against Atlanta. They didn't bring him back basically for the last 15 minutes of game one because they felt like his coverage, it just wasn't going to work.
So I don't know if Milwaukee will go small again. I don't know if they got back into the game because they went small or Phoenix was up 20.
So I am very anti. We see one game.
It looks like one team has no chance, especially how they match up defensively, and then think like that's the series. We've all done this for so many years now.
We've watched so many series. I mean, how did you feel about the Clippers against Dallas? How did you feel about the Clippers against Utah? And then Utah, the Utah Clippers series looked like two completely different years.
Yeah, no, that was crazy. It was a matter of day.
So even though I like Phoenix going in and the guard part of this is just overwhelming and Aiton has turned into a star here in a very short amount of time, I still think there's a version of Giannis being a little bit better. I thought they were a little slow in the first half collectively.
I could see a game where their size and Drew Holiday stepping up and we're going, oh, wait a minute, maybe Milwaukee's figured some things out. So I don't think there's this massive, massive gap.
Although, yes, I pick Phoenix going in. Okay.
So follow-up question. Well, let me just – a side note.
That's lame of you to actually be like, hey, I'm going to think about this instead of just saying something and then like what we do. Be a prisoner of the moment.
We'll just be like Sons and Four. Yeah, Sons and Four, Sons and Four.
Yeah, it's not great for your career. Anyone listening, don't do what I do.
Yeah, go ahead. Okay.
Don't be thoughtful. That's actually the worst possible thing that you can do is sports media.
Yes. All right.
TV producers would be, like, in the hallway after I do that spiel. They'd be like, okay, yeah.
All right. Yeah, we'll hit you up after game three.
Yeah, could you just send something for – if the Suns lose – The whole thing. The whole thing.
How mad are you going to be when people like me

and people like PFT and the rest of us say that Chris Paul is a choker

and he'll never win the big one?

Publicly, you won't see much, but privately I'll see you for about 48 hours.

Do you think that if Chris Paul loses the finals, that should count as a loss for lebron's finals records as well wow i hadn't really thought of that that way i think it's only a win it's only a win i mean didn't you say pft he's been so supportive of him this entire time yeah i think that i've kind of turned the corner on lebron this postseason he's doing his best shining delights trying the spotlight on his good buddy Chris Ball so if they win a championship I think that LeBron definitely needs a ring yeah I don't think it counts as a loss for him but it definitely counts as a win although I did love when Chris kind of went back at him a little yeah I mean LeBron it was kind of funny how like almost you know LeBron is is a very like at this point it's almost political with him if you like like, hey, great point. And if you've already decided you don't like him, then it doesn't matter what he says.
But when he said, hey, I told everybody, like, these injuries while he's at home and people just crushed him. And then Chris Paul's like, hey, dude, we all knew the deal.
We're like the two most powerful people in the league. And we all voted to come back.
So, like, you say what you want, but I'm trying to win a ring here here which is exactly what everybody else would be doing like lebron was still alive and it or anybody be saying like you think he would be like yeah these these playoffs have actually been a lot easier to get through of course not so we all we all do what's in our own self-interest especially when you're that big of a deal yeah uh i i mean it was i know that there's been a lot of injuries but there's also been like guys sit out a lot during the season. And also a lot of the injuries have been a little bit freakish.
You know, I mean, Kyrie Irving over. What did he say? Well, silver, like push back on the whole thing because it's like good.
Finally standing up to his boss, LeBron. Would you agree? And I always felt like this way at ESPN.
And like, I would say, hey, if you're going to present me with science that's very conclusive about what rest really means and load management and all these things then you've got me but you can't be dismissive of the television partnership you know business is about partnerships and if you keep telling one of your business partners the one that's paying the biggest tab every single season like hey sorry you guys get another big saturday game but our says this. Cause I've asked GMs like GMs that you would think would be all about rest being like, you know what? I've looked at everything and it's honestly still a little inconclusive, but I feel like the media side of it has just been in, um, in this rest mode for years.
I mean, I've talked about this before, but I feel like most media members that cover the NBA are very much pro rest. It's like, Hey, you can't have these guys sit enough.
And so we have the quick turnaround, which is a lot to ask both emotionally and physically, which I think all of us understand. But then you had, when you were doing the all NBA voting and you were looking at like the 20 guys for 15 spots, if you were to say, Oh, that guy missed 20 games, good luck finding anybody that didn't like Jokic and Chris Paul.
Like there were very few guys that played out the entire season. So the best players missed almost a third of this abbreviated season.
And then we still had all these injuries. So Silver's basically saying, Hey, look, the science is still inconclusive, which is another thing that I think we've all learned.
It's like, Hey, listen to the medical experts. Those guys disagree with each other all the time.
We're just too dumb to understand what their arguments are. So I am not sold on really any argument.
I'm not saying it's had nothing to do with do with the you know the injuries have had nothing to do with the quick turnaround because as you said a lot of the guys they're either freakish injuries or guys with long injury histories already it's just overwhelming and i think it ends up being turned into that talking point where everybody's on the same page when i'm like why are you so convinced that you're right because i'm not convinced of either yeah if you have if you land on somebody else's foot there's no way that you can blame that on like the short turnaround correct just happens in basketball if it's like james harden you got a hamstring injury then yeah you could say like okay that could be an overuse injury uh just you know like given his injury history might be it might not be but you don't really know i don't know what to do about that either i just feel like what the players really want is they just want to be like hey i'd like a day off like it's work sucks sometimes i'd rather not play every single day if i don't have to i think most people would understand that but they're kind of couching it in this like pseudoscience of okay if i if i miss one out of every seven games i'll be less likely to tear my acl and i think that's total bullshit but at the end of the day too lebron's made all his money like he's made money so i think that the the problem i always had with it is like if you're a guy who's working for that next contract and you play way less games and the salary cap goes down and now you're kind of screwed out of that you're like hey wait you don't speak for me i want to play like i want the league i want the cap to go back up i want all these things to happen i'm not at the end of my career i'm at the beginning of my career. So that's where, to me, and Chris Paul kind of said it perfectly because he is the most powerful guy outside of LeBron, and he does speak for the players, right? Yeah, I mean, he's head of the Players Association.
Right. So, I mean, if you're talking about when the first – I mean, it was such a wild time trying to figure out any of this stuff because of the information when we had the first shutdown for four months.
So then it's like, OK, when's this going to happen? And then you're getting a bunch of people to hear from trainers like these guys are going to need like 60 days just to ramp up to get back to regular season levels. And you're thinking, OK, well, you could also just not shut it down for four straight months and have to ramp it back up.
Like there's some responsibility on the athlete himself to try to maintain some level of conditioning, although nothing's going to match the intensity of a real NBA game. And the NBA still found a way to give them like, hey, guess what, guys, you got 60 days.
And I was shocked. And so then they bring everybody back.
And I thought it was an unbelievable success for the league to even pull off what they did with the bubble. I know we argue about ratings all the time and all these different things.
But it's like, look, we're talking about real extenuating circumstances here. So I think the players and everybody deserves a ton of credit.
But when there was talk about like not coming back and, you know, Michelle Roberts, her position is to just whatever the owners and the league says, she's going to oppose it by definition of what her role is. Like we've seen that in baseball and football.
I mean, that's what the job is, but I kind of sitting there going, all right, so if all the players are cool with losing like 300 or 400 million, then fine. Don't do anything.
Like, if you're cool with that, then okay. But my gut would tell me when you put it to a vote, it's going to be a lot more.
Because, like, that's how social media can be so weird because you're going, wait, do these guys actually not want to come back and play? And then the vote comes out, and it wasn't even close. No.
It was overwhelming. Like, we don't want to lose all that cash.
So I feel like the league has done an incredible job. The players have done a great job.
It sucks just like any other fan that all these guys have gotten hurt. I'm going to see anybody get hurt, but I'm just not sure based on everything I've read that we have some conclusive evidence that these injuries have happened just because of what we had in the past year.
Maybe it's true, but silver definitely pushed back on it, which I was just at least, I guess I was even surprised because he's been so pro player as a commissioner. He's been pro LeBron as a commissioner.
I think there's a big difference. So now he's like, he's finally, you can imagine life after LeBron in the NBA right now.
Like you just said it, if LeBron were still alive, for a moment I was like, what, LeBron's dead? You can picture a moment when the NBA does not have him

as the mouthpiece for everything that they're doing.

And at that point, Adam Silver is going to have to find a backbone

and be his own guy.

You're really hammering Silver here, PFT.

What's the story?

Well, no, he's just a puppet.

I think everybody knows that Silver, he's a puppet of either LeBron, ESPN,

or the NBA Reddit and China. What about China, Ryan? Do you disavow China? The entire nation.
I'd like you to speak on China as a whole. Yeah, what about it, Ryan? You know what I've learned? I'm not educated enough on the topic.
I'm going to stay out of politics from now on. Whose property is the South China Sea? Who has fishing rights? Good question, PFC.
It's something we we debate all the time all the time it's actually how we start every show who has the the fishing rights yeah you catch a flounder in the south china sea who gets to who gets to eat it that's a really good question yeah yeah i don't i don't know i imagine it's it's it's a little different than we thought i

mean i have are the russians involved somehow yeah the right you can always say putin yeah that's always an acceptable answer okay let me let me ask an easier question do you believe in taiwanese independence i believe in everybody having the best day they possibly can yeah okay That's good, yeah.

Live, laugh, love, I think, is what will free Taiwan.

Just say that.

Yeah. having the best day they possibly can yeah okay yeah live laugh love i think is what what will free taiwan just say that yeah live more hoodies yeah more hoodies a couple couple memes it's like hey i did my part i did an instagram post the other day yeah oh yeah we've seen you unload some instagram pictures i love that i love that excuse by the way hank is woke by the way about he's not here right now, but we'll speak for him.
That angle of you and your jump shot, like that jump shot, you don't – does that go in because all you're doing is focusing on jumping high? You're way too high in the air. Yeah, people thought I was photoshopped in that one.
I dunked it the first time ever at age 45. So, I mean, people have said specimen.
I don't like calling myself that because it's kind of like a third person thing it's weird yeah but um i got up so high on that one i was deep and i was just trying to get like i was you know where i was i was on the border of canada i was up like upstate new york i went through a big drive i was out in the lakes of vermont so i did this whole thing i go you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna try to find different places play pickup hoops and then i found the oldest log cabin in the history of the country pft i mean this cabin's been moved all you know i love log cabins yep huge cabin guy i'll tell you easy to heat right i mean those guys had it right you heating bill on those no problem couple cords would get you through the winter one room center pipe i love a good wood burning stove as opposed to a fireplace it gets hotter yes yeah and then you can use it to cook yeah right on crack an egg right on top i noticed you didn't answer the question you totally deflected was there actually a basketball in your hand when you were starting to shoot that jump shot or were you just you were just jumping up into the air out on a court i actually i took a jumper if you told me that you parachuted and that was the end of the parachute i would have made more sense no i definitely i was taking a jumper i mean look there's a level of loserdom to my instagram page that only a few appreciate um and then some people are like maybe you're just really that big of a loser and you use that as an excuse to go ahead and post this dumb shit um but yeah i i had a photo dump it was going to be like a photo dump of me just taking jumpers at eight different places that I'd play pickup hoops.

But my left foot doesn't really even work right now anyway, so I'm not even that good

at pickup hoops anymore.

But yeah, I was way out.

I was deep.

I was Trey Young range when they're trying to get back in the playoffs.

Yeah.

I love that explanation, though.

It's just a photo dump, just a bunch of pictures I had on my camera.

I had to put them on Instagram or else my phone was going to be too full on memory.

So good thing I was able to upload this picture of me looking awesome on a basketball court. By the way, though, that's of all the people that I would expect to appreciate the joke.
That was the joke. It was two pictures.
It was me taking a jump. Oh, yeah.
No, I just love it. So, right.
Yeah. No, it's usually photo dump is like, here's my insane body.
Yeah. Ten shots in a row.
And I was in Tulum again. Yeah, yeah.
All right, let's talk about something different. I'll give you an either or.
Who finishes first? George R.R. Martin finishes Winds of Winter, or you finish your first script? Oh, wow.
Good question. I've finished.
It's me, because I've finished scripts. But it was a lot like ESPN.
It's like you walk through the doors, you're like, I through the doors you're like I've made it you're like no no there's a whole nother boss level that's in that other building and you like you got to get past that and you're like well how do you do it you're like no one most no one does so you're like oh okay um in writing you're like all right I finished it and then you send it to your agent and then you go, now what? And they're like, good job. Entourage gets made.
Well, way better. No, but I am, there is something I'm working on now.
It's called Wicked Fast, Wicked Furious. And it's, a lot of people don't understand the car racing scene in Boston as well as I do.
And I would say it doesn't, one of the critiques of my writing is that it can the storyline can move a little slower and fast the furious moves fast i mean you know you're in it immediately and so this takes place in boston a bunch of guys street racers and the first 20 minutes or so they don't race because they argue about the best way to get from one side of town to the other um oh this has legs because now you can do maybe the second one can be whether you take the 405 or not during rush hour. Yeah, but they've already done a bunch of LA ones.
But honestly, they were like, it's not super diverse. And I go, well, what are you talking about? The casting for it? And they were like, well, there's three Murphs, and I don't think any of them are related.
And I was like, yeah, Murph 1, Murph 2, and Murph 3. And that's what leads to confusion in the sequel.
And they're like, worry about the sequel. You got to get one made.
Right. So I don't know.
They told me it was a bad idea to just jump on. They're like, they've already made nine of them.
And I was like, exactly. That's my point.
Like I have a way better chance of writing one of these wicked fast, wicked furious. And it tracks well was the other feedback.
What about this? What about this? You do an F1 movie. I know that you're really into formula one and it's like a fish out of water as you guys no no who do you root for i mean who do you our guy which car which car do you enjoy no we had an ask out to ricardo i think a month or so before you guys did and we were told maybe august and then when you guys got him like in a day i i now i'm open i'm open yeah i'm just gonna tell you straight up i didn't listen to the episode either yeah but you you you know what we did we just started calling him out on our show we bullied him we said he won't come on and then everyone started tagging him in everything and then he came on it's kind of an american thing to do though i don't really see the sport that way okay uh-huh you see that what the European does? Yeah.
I don't know. I just have more respect for these guys.
Okay, well, what you should do is you should do, like, an F1 movie, Fast and Furious, Wicked Fast, Wicked Furious, and, like, Fish Out of Water, have it be essentially Ben Affleck and Matt Damon somehow. Like, they're the fastest street racers in Boston, and they find themselves on the F1 circuit, going to, like, Monaco, Budapest.
You know? Oh, maybe. Hey, you know what the opening scene is? I just thought of this.
When Damon listening to a little Elliot Smith, don't put that on if you're in a bad mood. And then driving cross country.
And then Affleck pulls in next to 89. May probably Mass Pike because it'd be going west.
And then that's the opening scene of the next one. you transition goodwill hunting fast yeah and then they're racing each other to get to california because you didn't realize the whole time affleck was with mini driver on the low yeah and then instead of having ludicrous in the side seat you've got uh king casey from the dropkick burpees in the side seat and they're just blasting irish folk music you you also could have matt damon be in maybe the third he becomes a uh how do you say a principal of the construct principal of the team i don't know you're an f1 guy we're not uh yeah yeah principal yeah he's like the gm yeah i mean matt damon with all his smarts figures out the best aerodynamic car of all time and beats toto wolf who's actually secretly a nazi not actually total wolf thatff.
That's just the, you know, it's based on fiction. So I didn't want to call him that.
And then. Yeah, no, that's a good problem.
But the problem is the fourth installment of Wicked Fast, Wicked Furious, they realized that Damon was cheating. Is also a Nazi.
And then Tom Cruise shows up in the fifth one, takes them all out. Yep.
And they're in Monaco. There's a big disaster on the course.
There's like construction. Because Affleck's movies out for the festival.
Yes. Yes.
And you know that Nazis sell in movies. Like everyone watches those movies.
Always. They do well.
They always do well. There's traffic and Affleck's like, I've seen this before.
And he flashes back to the big dig. He's like, I know how to get through this.
That's it. They start looking at old plans of the big day and they're like no dude they're like it's exit 23 the waterfront the water i uh i wish we had written more of this down i guess we're recording this it's not really yeah i these are probably our worst ideas we're getting out another thing you should do is just write yourself into it that way you get a double check i'm surprised we're talking this much about Affleck right now, knowing how Big Cat feels about this situation.
How's this Ben? He's an icon. Do you think it was tacky? Do you think it was tacky to wear the same outfit as J-Lo? That's a major tacky.
I don't think it was nearly as much the same outfit as it was the Shade Room logo being over it, making it look like they were wearing sweaters that said T&R. Yeah.
That's why everybody got on their case. The second picture looked like they were looking at

like a car crash. It was weird.

Have you talked to A-Rod about it?

Have you addressed this at all?

I sent

him a text after they broke

up saying, sorry about the breakup

boss, and he just hearted it.

That was it.

No way. That was it.

You didn't even tell me this. No, yeah, that was it no way you didn't even tell me this no yeah that was it that was it was the last time you've texted yeah it's the last time we've texted i've given him space you know i love that big cat became someone that could get to the point of like it was six years ago you were like hey can you guys be our first guest ever on the podcast? I was like, done.
No problem. Two hours later.
Hey, nope. I can't do it.
They're not going to, they're not going to let me. I used to love it.
They were like, you're too important to our brand at ESPN. I was like, am I? I'm like, well, let me just go on with these guys.
They're like, no, we're not going to do that. I was like, no, one's going to listen.
Don't worry about it. And then it's like now six years later, you can text a rod after breaking up with j-lo and he responds a joke right well he's not gonna get it no i mean let's let's not i don't want this to get back to him i don't want it to be uncomfortable if it does i can handle it i i know how to i know you definitely can i know how to no one you have developed into somebody who can be kind of mean and get away with it yes yes, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, this podcast is kind of mean sometimes and gets away with it. I think the trick is as long as you're just funnier than you are mean, it always plays.
Yeah, and you also have to be mean to yourself. Paul Rabel came on the show last week and he was like, you guys have just built a brand where you can just make fun of everybody.
He's like, that sucks for me being a guest on your show right now. But it's like, I said to him after, like, it's a perfect example.
Like, I've been very mean about the Water Dogs, our team that we own. Really mean.
I'm actually, I'm getting uncomfortable about this. But it's also natural because I actually fucking hate the Water Dogs.
They suck. They make us look bad.
So which one's better? Like, do you want me to throw out a tweet that's clearly an ad or do you want me to talk about it naturally i happen to think that the natural conversation the water dogs and you're a writer ryan well sort of he's a writer you're a writer he does write yeah you do write the story arc here expensive hobby yeah it's set up. This movie has a conclusion where the Waterdogs lift the trophy,

and I'm like, I always believed in you guys.

There hasn't been one guy on that lacrosse team to tell you to go fuck yourself yet?

No, not publicly.

I think lacrosse is the one sport, too, where it's like they're just happy to have people talking about them.

I don't know. I saw the last tweet where there was no all-stars from the Waterdogs, and you were like, good.

Well, it's got two endings possible.

Either the happy ending where they win or have you seen Marley and me?

Yeah.

No.

That's kind of like the alternate ending.

We're also considering that.

What happens?

What is that?

Bob Marley?

Yeah.

No, all the dogs die, but they probably go to heaven.

Well, now I'm not going to see it.

Yeah.

Speaking of which, why haven't you gotten a dog and been like, I'm taking a step up in my life. I'm starting to get more responsible.
It's a great question. It's been asked a few times.
I always say this. I don't want to do that to the dog.
The dog might not like the NBA. He might be a hockey guy.
And then you're fine. He's going to just look at me, like come up the stairs, like, oh, right.
And again, what kind of dog would you get? Um, you know, what's funny is I never was, uh, I've told the story before and it isn't something that does my Q rating any good, but you know, cause my dad was a humble carpenter at the beginning laying brick. Actually the first few years, uh, I was, I was on the job sites with them.
He would bring me to every estimate cause he felt like if he had this little toe haired kid coming along, he'd have a better chance of closing the deal instead of being like a six, five guy with long hair and this pickup truck. So he would show up and I'd hope that I'd hold the tape measure at the other end, you know, and all the, the homeowner always think it was the cutest thing ever.
And he knew what he was doing, but like estimate, whenever I heard the word estimate, after I get picked up at practice or school or everything, I just like, Oh, this sucks. Like, I just want to go outside and play wiffle ball.
And he'd be like, No, we got to go do an estimate. And that also meant that I got attacked by like everybody's dog when I first showed up at the house.
So for a very long stretch, dogs to me, I was like, Ah, another fucking dog's gonna jump all over me all the time. And then when I got to college, we had a horribly trained dog in our house that used to eat your food as soon as you left, take your spot.
I think I remember one night I was like rifling through the fridge, probably super late. So I wasn't a hundred percent with it.
And then the dog like hit me and the freezer door was open because I was getting ice too. And I hit my head on the freezer door and I like knocked myself out in the kitchen.
So I've had this horrible, horrible history with dogs. So when people at ESPN would be like, how come you don't get a dog? You're by yourself all the time.
And I was just like, you know what? We haven't had a great run. And I see people that, especially when I was traveling all the time, like they get a dog selfishly for those down moments because they're alone.
But then it's like, oh, by the way, I'm going to go to LSU for five days so you'll be in a kennel right i just don't i don't think unless you have the a yard which i don't have um out here the beaches they don't let you bring the dogs on the beach that's a big no-no out here i just i understand dogs now i'm open to the idea but i wouldn't do it unless i were 100 into the dog and it's probably why i'm not married either like i'm just like hey i gotta be 100 on this you know you put your wife in a kennel is what you're saying when you go to lsu like hey i'm gonna be gone a lot may not talk to you for a couple days and she'd be like i love me i left the toilet bowl open so if you get thirsty don't worry yeah look i've got a door you've got my door dash right i'm sorry postmates i don't know who's sponsor is so go. You know, you could have just said Lab when I asked you that question.
Yeah. That would have been fine.
Could have said Lab. That's not the right way.
That's why we're supposed to be the best. Here's why everybody should hate me.
Yeah. Yeah, but that's why I'm not going to do the pander tweets.
We're always joking about it. You'll look and see and be like, well, this person definitely doesn't believe that, but they're going with this move today and i just like there's certain things i i feel the same way as a lot of people do but i don't i don't feel like i need to be checked off the box like hey does rusillo like you know healthy infants uh i haven't seen him tweet about it yet right like let's let's all right well let's not check him off yet until we see him acknowledge that healthy infants are awesome so whatever we're gonna get back to Ryan Russillo in a second before we do.
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Here's more Ryan Russillo. So, all right.
So, my question. So, I told you beforehand I was going to spring it on you.
So, you don't know what I'm going to say. But you had a line, I think it was probably three months ago ago that made me laugh so much that i put it down on my notes and it might not even be funny because i don't even remember the context but you said uh you're giving life advice you're like listen i've been a guy for a really long time now and i was like what the fuck does that even mean and it got me thinking like ryan is sitting here being like i look i got my guy resume like you could see it I graduated guy school in like 1999 but my question to you is because I was thinking about it more I actually think that's a like a weird thing like when do you become a guy because like kids aren't guys like even ayear-old I don't think is a guy.

Because it's a little bit of maturity. It's a little bit of life wisdom.
It's a little bit of kind of like, hey, you're not a guy until you stop maybe trying to hook up with your best friend's girlfriend kind of thing. That's not a guy move.
So when do you become a guy? And how long have you been a guy? I feel like you know

the thing I'm

I'm most happy about

however So when do you become a guy and how long have you been a guy? I feel like, you know, the thing I'm most happy about, however circuitous the path was, is that. I wouldn't be as good as a talk show host and like I'd like to think that I've done an OK run here over the last 20 years doing this, but I had to be kind of, you know, like not have it figured out for a really long time.
I had a bartend. I had to have those moments where I'm like, this isn't going to work out.
And then studying for a general contractor's license and then having other moments where like nothing is working out. And then being so single-minded, it's like literally the only thing you care about while still, you know, trying to keep up with your friends and, and have like a normal life when you can't really have a normal life when you were doing what I was doing in the beginning at ESPN.
I was driving back and forth and living in a hotel room. I think I stayed in a hotel like 200 nights the third year I worked at ESPN because I just was like, I don't care.
This is the only thing I care about. Instead of just going to Syracuse and immediately having enough networking that you can get your foot in the door in this industry that is so hard and I think it's harder all the time.
I think those experiences of just being an idiot and getting stuff wrong allows me to be in a better position to give people advice. Because there's other people who are like, how can you give anyone advice when you don't have any kids? You've never been married.
And it's like, yeah, but everybody's there. Most people have that.
And if you did it earlier, there, there's not as many life experiences for me to like see a guy emailing and he's like, Hey, so this is, you know, some guy who's 25, it goes, Hey, so, you know, there's a girl at the gym and she's super flirty with me, but she doesn't respond to my texts. And then when she sees me, she's like, Oh, I'm so sorry.
I didn't respond to your text, but you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, dude, she's, it's really simple.
Like people have been on both ends or if you have, you know, zero game, I guess you've never been on the other end of it, but like, you don't, you don't ignore somebody that you're interested in, you know? And at 25, you'll, you'll still have these moments of like, wait, what kind of game is being played? You're like, actually, it's a very simple one. She's probably seeing somebody else.
She likes the attention from you at the gym. And if she's dating somebody, he's not there.
So that fills some sort of void for her, those interactions that you have with her. And you just have to be around long enough.
And people could listen to this and say, yeah, obviously, idiot. Thanks for the doctorate in something really simple.
But it still feels like so many people miss these signs. And then there's certain things that we'll miss, too.
So I guess, again, it's a long-winded answer of it. But I'd had to have all those ups and downs and different experiences.
And dating is obviously part of it, too, where you're like, OK, well, I've already had this happen to me or I did this to somebody, so I know exactly.

So that's my answer being a guy, and I'd say it probably,

unfortunately, has gone a little bit longer,

but probably kicked in in the mid-20s.

Well, how does it work out now if you do something that's decidedly un-guy?

Do you have to – are you guy enough to look yourself in the mirror

and check your guydom, or do you need another guy, like buddy system,

to be like, hey, Ryan, that's not a guy move. Pull you over.
Slap you in the face. Be like, hey, dude, what are you doing? You're a guy.
The only person checking on me is me. So, you know, the isolation, people, my friends were joking that you're the most built for this of anyone we know going through it all.
But I'm harder on myself than anybody else could possibly be. So I try to keep myself in check, but whatever.
It's weird because we're getting a little deeper here, but I can think about my career and all the stuff I've accomplished and having a nice house and all this stuff, which seemed impossible and everyone would have bet against 20 years ago. But then sometimes I'll think like, was I just really successful, but I still haven't haven't even come close to figuring it out.
Like, do I think I have it completely figured out and everything's going to be nice and easy now the rest of the way, or do I constantly try to make things really hard on myself where I can only operate with massive challenges, like trying to become a screenwriter, like as much as we bullshit and joke about it, this isn't easy. It's really, really hard.
And here I have something that's really successful. And yet I have this other thing that is really the thing that I'm trying to figure out how I can do it.
And most of my friends are like, why can't you just chill the fuck out and have a really successful podcast and a really nice life as you go into your fifties? I'm like, well, I also don't know if I want to be giving out dating advice to college kids when I'm 55 years old on a podcast. Okay.
I mean, that may that me that what that just signaled to me is when you figure out the writing part we are going to see ryan rusillo try to make an nba team with that sick jumper you're like i need another challenge here we go i want to see you compete for an egot but not necessarily like the actual awards i just want you to have gotten paid for something in all those categories that's your personal ego grammy's gonna be tough spoken word narrate your own book i've actually been working on some of my spoken word really give me a sample seasons there's four why only four who is in charge of the seasons not you fall ahead of spring or behind in which order are the four summer i'm here for it that's was beautiful. That was fucking beautiful.

All right, now we're going to get that spoken word Grammy

because it was recorded on our show.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Think about what I just said, though.

Don't let the moment just pass by.

No, no.

I definitely think about it.

I do agree with you, though.

It's kind of crazy we've only had four, though, with all the innovation.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I mean, L.A., what does it have, one? It gets a little chilly here in the winter in Manhattan Beach. Like 60? There was a 50-degree night.
Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.
You okay? Oh, man. Can you leave the water dripping in case the pipes froze? Your car on? You left your car on, didn't you? There is nothing.
Well, it's not always funny because a bunch of bad shit happens but when you have those security camera community message boards that's the most unforgiving interaction in the human race like and again granted too it's fourth of july and somebody be like is anyone hearing gunshots i'm over in hawthorne and you're like it's it's the fourth of july but somebody would just be like hey so here's a video of a person breaking into my car at 3 a.m. And it's like, why did you leave your fucking doors open, moron? You're like, okay, my kid's toys were stolen in my baby seat.
It's like, shouldn't have left the doors unlocked. The reason I bring any of that up is that if it gets down to 50, people are like, hey, does anyone have firewood? Yep.
This is a problem. Yes yes we're going to mexico shellbacks is doing a hoodie donation fundraiser right now so just go outside and donate whatever hoodies this is going to get down to 49 next week i love that bar it's a great bar uh can i ask can i ask pft a question while we're on the arts yeah yeah i do we have do we have uh we have like three four more minutes we four more minutes.
We have a interview with Toto Wolf next. So must be nice.
Yeah. Ask away.
Do you want us to give you Daniel Ricardo's number? He's out here in LA. I did think we would hit it.
Oh, that makes it worse. Yeah.
I know. I know.
I know. But I, I think I, I may have the inside track, no pun intended to F1 in Texas.
But now when I say it to you, you guys have like set up a merch tent there. You know, we're racing.
We're actually both driving. You guys are actually in.
Yeah, the Haas car sucks. Haas sucks so bad.
They're like, couldn't get worse. I wish more people understood.
Because I don't even like making fun of Haas after watching the TV show because I feel bad for the owner being like, eh, this sucks. But they had a 17, 18 position.
I was like, not a bad weekend for Haas. They're kind of weekend for a crash i wish more people could understand haas jokes uh all right let me if you guys have to run then let me just ask you this and then you can ask me whatever because i'll be why do you hate yellow stone so much pft i don't hate yellow stone i i actually don't hate it that much at all i love season one i thought season two was pretty good but then season three three, I was watching for the scenery because every episode was like,

Rip, I need you to beat the hell out of this guy.

And then Rip would go beat up somebody.

And then Cole Hauser would have sex with his wife,

but they'd start crying before they had sex.

Then they'd have sex and then Cole would leave.

And that was every show.

But the background, the scenery was incredible.

And Kevin Costner would be like, grandson, go get a cookie.

And that's like the entire, that's every episode from start to oh and then somebody dies someone always dies and uh it was just like that repeated you know one right after the other but i still liked it i still watched it because i was like this show can become good again at some point uh but just it just got it got a little repetitive all right that's fair um because sharon the writer for it i mean he's all-timer you know wind river hell or high water and then sicario right we had we had the producer sicario that had to like bring him in say hey we need to change the end of this and taylor was like nah i don't want to do that but i would love a challenge of trying to speak in full like full yellowstone an entire podcast see how long we could go because you just be like hey rip want to head into town and kill some people and then rip just turns and goes like people been killing this town for decades you know like everything like has a has like a meaning to it there's another layer and it's about saving it's about saving that area of the country the true nature of a man can be told from how clean his horse is men are a lot like fence posts gotta dig them out of the shit and set them straight every now and then if you see a buffalo heading east you best head west i'm just michael scott right now being like i wish i understood any of this all right what else did you have what else that was it no that was it i gotta watch it i guess strong two kids has killed my tv watching ability so i apologize i'll catch up It's a good watch I said I literally don't Have hours left in the day So I will try though If for nothing else just the scenery Like the backgrounds in every scene Like in those later episodes I would still watch every one Because there are mountains there You know what's really good? What? The Wire. Yeah.
Oh, fuck. I'm going to catch up to that too.
Who did it? Sopranos. I'm going to watch that soon as well.
It's on my list. You're kidding, right? Yes.
Yes, I have. We spoiled the whole fucking thing because Hank was on episode two, or no, season two, and we just started.
He told us he was on season two, and we just spent the next like actually it's still ongoing it's like two years ongoing we just like to remind them like every three months hey tony kills christopher yeah holds his nose after the car yeah i don't know i mean obviously you guys are going to do that to him but if you're that far behind it right it's like it's been 15 years or whatever like i remember watching it live in college the last the last episode so 2007 i think yeah and i thought my cable went out like everyone else in america yeah i was in a hotel room oh surprise your own hotel 200 in a year layup joke tease you right up for that one yep um all right well ryan thank you. Suns in four was your prediction? No, Suns in six.
Suns in six. Okay.
And don't worry. If the Suns blow it, we will be nice to Chris Paul.
No, you won't. No, we won't.
We won't. That's the game.
That is the game. And guess what? If the Suns do win, we're the biggest Chris Paul fans in the world.
So you really can't win in any way with us.

And winning life, just being friends with you guys.

There it is.

I love it.

There it is.

Get a dog.

He could have just said, like, Chihuahua, too.

Yeah.

That would be funny.

Like, big man, little dog.

Anything.

Instead, he was like, here's a story about my father.

Yeah.

Here's a story about how my father used me.

Sorry about my dad, guys. Yeah, he sounded like you love him when you're in the truck getting fucking berated iron sharpens iron yeah if you want a real truck go to chevy chevy will get you a truck that will give you good memories with your father yeah we never had uh four wheel so you know that was a big thing when i got old enough to buy my own car i was was like, I'm going to get four wheel.
All right. So this pod's obviously peaking.
So I think it's no coincidence that you were traumatized in a Ford. Yeah, exactly.
You know, a lot of miles there, though. A lot of miles.
A lot of good memories, except for the bad games. Was that the car that Kennedy got shot in? Was that? That was a Cadillac.
That was a Cadillac. That was a convertible.
I forget because Re's been a while since Revell tweeted out an 8K. Wait, you thought JFK got shot and he was riding in the back of a pickup truck? No, no.
No, a Ford convertible. I don't know.
Mustang? Fuck it. No, I knew he wasn't in a pickup truck.
We should just implant that memory into people's brains. You know, he was riding an F-150.
If he was riding a Chevy, it would have been fine. not fine it's not safe yeah it would have been fine no high country chevy no president has ever been assassinated in a chevy i actually might tell my son that like don't ride in the back of a truck it's not safe that's how jfk got caught growing up man jfk stuff like that was crazy i was thinking about that the other day like all the all the way no but it was prior to the jfk movie coming out But no, there are always little reminders, whether it's you, me, long talking.
PFT usually and I, we only talk history. I sent him something recently that I thought he was really going to enjoy.
I'm reading this General Custer book. And there was a guy in his army.
He would send love letters to his wife, and he would draw pictures of his erect penis in the letters you trace guys right so these guys researching his story as one of the guys in this army in the seventh cavalry like found correspondence between this guy in the army and his wife and they were like yeah he was pretty into his wife i just don't just don't understand how you verify that it was erect.

That's making a pretty big assumption.

Yeah.

That's why scholars, hey, look, history goes to the winners.

Grower versus shower.

All right, we do have to go, though.

Thank you, Ryan.

Appreciate it.

We covered a lot there in the end.

We did.

We did.

A lot of rapid fire stuff.

All right.

Thank you.

Talk to you later.

Good to see you, buddy.

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He's got an NFT collection launching on Friday, July 9th on Rarible. Four NFTs, a mix of auction items, and first come, first serve.
So go check it out. It will be awesome.
And also you get an opportunity to play 2K with you. Are you good at video games? I'm pretty good.
I'm pretty good. I don't know about that.
Do you remember like a couple years ago when Cardale Jones was playing against a kid? I think it was a kid in the hospital and he beat him like 95 to 10 in Madden. Yeah, but that's not cool at all.
So you would take it easy? Nah, I'm definitely going to play it, but when it's time to win, I'm going to win. Okay.
All right, so it's great to have you on. Obviously, your season didn't end the way you wanted to end.
How are you doing right now? Are you like – what does that look like right after the season ends? Do you get a couple weeks to just hang out and party, or are you back already in the gym shooting and getting ready? I'm already back in the gym now. It took maybe like two, three weeks off just to chill.
But, you know, I didn't really have that. I really I didn't play that much this year.
You know, I sat out for about two months when I was in Cleveland. So I want to keep my body going.
So I'm still working on my body and, you know, continuing my work. What are you working on right now? Is there something like I've always wondered that about NBA players who play at a superstar level like yourself.
If you're already really good at your job, how do you decide what you're going to do different in the offseason it's more so just polishing things not even adding anything like I feel like some guys you know add different elements to their game but I think for me I'm pretty consistent in what my job is and I know what is asked of me so I have a specific regimen that I just do to just continue to keep my body going and you know try to get as strong as I can, as fast as I can, as big as I can, you know, throughout the year. How much are we working on free throw shooting? Well, if you have noticed, I'm shooting at least 70 right now.
Hell yeah. So I think that's something I've conquered already.
Yeah, you have gotten a lot better. And we've talked to guys and it's, I mean, what was it earlier in your career? Was it just mental? Like how – what was – what were you able to do to get over that hump and be like, hey, here I am feeling consistent? Because obviously we see Giannis in the finals right now.
He's struggling. Like what would you give a tip for Giannis if you could? I know for personally I know me personally I just it was a mental thing for me um you know I had so many people telling me different ways to shoot it and you know I listen to so many people mentally it throws you off when you get to the line you're like damn this guy told me this somebody else told me this and you know I got to a point where I was like you know I gotta do's best for me.
So I found a routine and shot it the same way for the entire summer. And it's been my routine ever since.
I noticed that you picked up on what we're trying to do, which is like an old school media tip, like get you to say something. Yeah.
So that the headline is then Andre Drummond has free throw tips for Giannis. Yes.
And then it looks bad on you. So let me rephrase that real quick.
If there's a hypothetical league MVP plays big man position, very strong, takes 11-12 seconds to shoot each free throw, but they're struggling at the line, how would you specifically tell that person to improve? Again, not Giannis. Good question.
Great question. Not Giannis.
Not Giannis.

Suns in four.

Suns in four. There it is.
I love it. Perfect.

I love your ability to rebound. I always think

that people who are really sick at rebounding don't

get as much shine as they should sometimes.

When you have a 20-rebound game,

is that in the zone?

Same as when a shooter gets hot?

Would you consider yourself to be in the zone?

Yeah, when I have a 20-rebound game, it's an's a active night for me I mean I'm going after every rebound and you know it's just one of those feel-good nights when you when you see that number up there because not too many people are able to do that can you tell like if you're having one of those nights can you tell where the miss is going to go before the shot even remotely comes close to the basket I mean I could do that normally you know, just like when you're in that zone, it's just like everything goes right.

You remember, like, when Dennis Rodman was explaining

how he was picking up rebounds, like, over here, over there, over there,

from, what was that, the Michael Jordan documentary?

Mm-hmm.

Can you tell me one thing as, like, somebody who's really good at rebounding

that the average person who might play pickup basketball

might not know about where to expect the ball to go? Well, it depends on where the shot is taken. Like if somebody shoots a shot in the left corner, you know, more times than not, it's going to either overshoot or bounce off the rim towards you.
So be on the right side of the rim. Or if you're shooting in the middle, just in the middle of the rim, you have either way to go.
So it's really just knowing where the ball's coming from. I am a big fan of Jim Calhoun.
You played for him at UConn. His last year.
Do you have any good Jim Calhoun stories? I just like his press conferences because Jim Calhoun never gave a fuck and he always just told people exactly what was on his mind. So was he like that, you know, in practice, games, like in private settings? Was he just like that, like Jim Calhoun? I'm going to tell you exactly what I'm thinking.
Yeah, he never held his tongue. I mean, funny story about him.
I remember we were playing Rutgers. He'll probably kill me for telling this story.
But I think I dribbled the ball close to close and turned it over. And he calls the timeout.
So I'm running to the timeout. He grabs me by my jersey.
It throws an uppercut to my stomach. Slaps me in the face.
So sit down. It worked, right? You put me in two possessions later.
So you ready to play now? So wait. So let's expand on this because we see it all the time with Izzo.
Izzo will grab a player and you'll see guys like Draymond Green be like, hey, listen, that's how Izzo coaches. That's all love.
So from the Twitter media perspective, what do people get wrong when they see something like that? We see it and people overreact when it's like the players who play for the guy are like, no, that's not how it goes. So think for me it's just the the relationship you have with that coach I mean I don't think he just does it to anybody but if you have that type of relationship with your coach where he knows how to get the best out of you what to do to wake you up I don't think it's anything anything wrong with that yeah yeah no I mean I I agree I always kind of like when those things happen because you do see a bunch of media dorks be like, how could he? And then you see all of the former players be like, I know how he could because we fucking love him and we'll die for him.
Exactly. Yeah.
I'm just going to read you a tweet. You can put it through the Andre Drummond translator and tell me what this hypothetical player might have meant by this.
Lol, remember, kids, control what you can control and let the rest take care of itself. Prayer hands.
That was sent before, oh, it was sent actually these playoffs before game six of Lakers' sons. So what would that person have meant by that tweet? I think it's self-explanatory.
I mean, throw what you can control. I mean, it depends on whatever you're going through, whatever aspect it can be.

Whatever, be too high or be too low.

Yeah, so maybe when you're in the game, be ready to go,

but you can also be mad that maybe you're not in the game enough.

Well, I feel like for anybody, it depends on what they're going through.

Yeah.

It doesn't have to be basketball.

Do you feel soft because an avocado took you down?

Yeah, a little bit.

It's kind of depressing.

A punk-ass avocado took me out.

Explain that story.

Avocado legitimately kept you out of a game.

Yeah, for like four games.

We were in Mexico City.

I went out to dinner with some of my friends,

and one of my friends who happens to be Spanish,

I told him to take me to a restaurant so you can go eat.

So we get there, and I said, whatever you do, just make sure there's no avocado on my food.

I said, can you translate that to them?

He's like, yeah, I got you.

So he tells her.

I ordered my food.

I said, before she leaves, I pull her by her shirt.

I said, hold on, Marty.

Tell her again, no avocados.

Cool.

Thumbs up.

Food comes out.

My bowl is green.

So I got ceviche.

So my bowl is green.

So I'm looking at it.

I said, what's this in my bowl?

She said, oh, no, you're good.

No avocado.

No avocado.

I said, are you sure?

I said, Marty, ask her, please.

Is there avocado in there?

So she says no.

I said, all right, whatever.

So I'm eating, eating, eating.

I think maybe like 10, 15 minutes go by.

I don't know. Ask her, please.
Is there avocado in there? So she says no.

All right, whatever.

So I'm eating, eating, eating.

I think maybe like 10, 15 minutes go by and I'm almost done.

And I'm just having a conversation.

My throat starts to itch.

You know, my body's starting to itch a little bit.

So I looked down at my plate. I told him I was a big-ass strip of avocado at the bottom of the ceviche bowl.

So I didn't know how bad my allergies were. It was my first time having a bad reaction to it.
So I didn't know how bad it was going to get. So I'm like, all right, my throat's itching.
I was like, I'm getting stuffy, whatever. So I took a Benadryl or whatever.
So I go back to the hotel. My eyes itching really bad to the point where I can't even keep it open.
So I was like, all right, I'm going to sleep. So I go to bed.
I get up the next morning. Only one eye opened.
Oh, shit. So you can imagine like, yo, like what the hell is going on? Right.
I'm like trying to open my eye, trying to pry my eye open. It's like glued shut.
So I got it. I went to the bathroom.
I got a warm top put on my eye. So when I finally get to see it, it's just bloodshot red.

There's a bunch of yellow mucus coming out of it, like just disgusting.

So I tell my team, I said, hey, I don't know what's going on with me,

but my eyes aren't opening.

So I go see a doctor.

They gave me some eye drops, and I played.

I only played with one eye.

I rarely could see out of my left eye. It was almost shut if you watched that game in Mexico City.
Yeah, after that game I couldn't play again because my eyes started burning. It kept getting crusty.
Fuck. An avocado injury is a hell of an injury.
How many rims could you see when you just eye working? Oh, that is a good one. You are good.
You are good. You are good.
When you saw that press conference, it was funny, right? We can all admit that it was a very funny thing to happen because the end of the game was so – I mean, it was spectacular. He played a hell of a game.
But then he gives that comment, and it's just – that's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. You know, I'm not in an interview with that man.
That's what he thought was appropriate to say, so he said it. All right, so I have to bring up the night.
I know you fixed your free throw shooting, but you did have a night that you missed 23. What happened after that? Like, what did you say do you go into the locker room after like hey guys don't worry i got this like i'm gonna shoot some shots after the game like it was just that was totally random like what did you did anyone look at you like i would imagine it's it's gotta be a bad feeling right i think we game, actually.
So I don't think there was much that was said,

but everybody knew in the locker room what each other was thinking.

Like, you got to figure this shit out.

I said, boy, Tom, we can't play like this.

You got to eventually you're going to have to figure it.

Because I do remember, too, I think it happened against the Bulls.

I was watching the game.

You went double airball in two free throws.

So, yeah, but you figured it out.

So we can laugh about this now, right?

We can laugh about it now.

It's not a sensitive subject anymore.

Yes.

At one point it was sensitive.

Now you're good.

It would be funny if you did an NFT of the double airball, though.

You know what?

I might have to do that.

You should, actually, because I know you – I said at the beginning you're you're doing uh what what is he got four nfts maybe add two more airball one airball two on the on the rare double airball free throw trip that one might actually be more expensive yeah i would buy that one yeah there's definitely a market for it i might have to do that um what was it like like? So we're like best friends with Blake Griffin, no big deal. Oh, my God.
Yeah, what was it like playing with him? I mean, we legitimately like he's our best friend. No, I love Blake.
How much do you love him, though? Like, we love him more. I think we're on the same scale.
Really? Do you have his phone number? Nah, do you? Yeah. Yeah.
Do you think he'd pick up a FaceTime?

If I call them?

Yeah.

Maybe.

Let me see.

All right, let's try.

Try and then I'll try.

Tell him it's his favorite podcasters.

Or second favorite podcasters.

Who starts first?

You go first.

All right, let's see.

Uh-oh.

Let's see.

Is it ringing?

You guys probably said it on the show, too. Uh-oh.
Is it ringing? You guys probably said it for the show, too. Uh-oh.
I think it was the answer for you, right? If he answers for me and not you, that's going to be bad. He's not hitting the ignore button.
He's letting it ring out. Come on, Blake.
Come on, man. Oh, no.
Imagine being Blake and then getting that face done. He's got to know something's up.
All right, go ahead. Your turn.
It's pretty quick. Oh, man.
If he answers this, this is going to be bad for you. He's going to answer for him.
All right. Fuck.
I think he's probably doing something cool because he's a cool guy. He's probably on a boat somewhere with his fucking shirt off,

looking awesome.

All right, tell us your best Blake Griffin story, though.

Best Blake Griffin story. I think going to his comedy show, his stand-up.

Did he make all his teammates go and was like,

hey, you guys legally have to come and laugh?

No.

Like, come here and laugh at my jokes.

No, he was actually really good.

I think it was one of my favorite memories of playing with him is going to that and seeing him in that light because everybody knows Blake is, you know, an aggressive player. So to go see him in like a funny setting, comedy setting was amazing for me.
He is more like we always say like there's athlete funny and like there's real funny. Blake Griffin's real funny.
Very funny. He's a lot of funny.
Like he's hilarious. Right.
Yeah. Were you ever like, hey, it's hilarious how you never dunk anymore? No.
And he's out for the first time this year in like three years. Yeah, but then he couldn't stop dunking.
All of a sudden he's dunking again in the playoffs. Yeah, interesting.
Suspect. Interesting.
I got a question for you about a very specific skill that you have. You're really good at shooting full court shots.
You might be the Steph Curry of the full court heave. Is that something that you practice or does that just come naturally? No, I think that's just natural.
It's just strength. I don't really have to try, so I just put it up there.
Do you aim for a bank shot or do you just aim at the basket itself? I aim at the back of the rim. If we were to give you, let's say, 100 shots in a gym

and you have to take it from the other free throw line,

do you think your free throw percentage would be higher on that

or your free throw percentage higher in like your second year

from the actual free throw line?

That's a good question.

Thank you.

Really good question.

He's doing the math right now.

Yeah.

He is.

He's crunching the math and he's trying to figure it out.

I think it'll be even.

Yeah.

It'll be even, yeah.

Hey, why do you wear only one leg sleeve?

That bothers me.

Does it?

Yeah, big time.

It's a stupid look.

I'm serious.

Like, it is.

If you're going to do the leggings, do do both i don't want to why i want one leg coat of one it doesn't matter which one does it always have to be the same it could be either one doesn't matter really so you do alternate sometimes i want one on the right one time and another one on the left side really so it just makes no sense you're just doing it to do it yeah it's the look it's a bad look i'm just from one guy to another i'm just telling you change that look what about the uh shooting sleeve you ever you ever wear a shooting sleeve only if my elbow hurts yeah does that actually help i've always wondered that about compression sleeves oh no not really only if you fall i mean yeah, it does work. To, like, protect you against floor burn or whatever.

Say it again?

To, like, protect against floor burn or whatever on your elbow, right?

Nah.

It just looks sick.

It's like you guys have never.

I think some guys work because it's cool.

I mean, some guys work for the compression,

and some people wear it with the pads, you know, if they got bad elbows.

Gotcha.

Are you still on a beer day diet?

No, but I just had one a minute ago, though.

Okay, so wait, what was the beer day diet?

You know, it was something I wanted to try out.

I wanted to cut out carbs for a little bit,

and that's what I came up with.

So you just did one beer every day no matter what?

Yep.

But that's a carb, so you wanted to cut out carbs, but then?

Bad carbs. Got it.
That's actually a good point okay beer is good carbs yes okay that actually are you you should you should be a science you should be a nutritionist thank you man that's why i smoke imagine just sitting down and being like all right so here's what we're gonna do no more pizza but you're gonna just drink beer every day yeah what was the uh what was the earliest beer you ever had during the beer a day diet that's a good question do you ever breakfast beer do burial pour right into the cornflakes i mean 9 a.m yeah if you have a beer for breakfast the rest of your day it just flies right by um why'd you tell me about this tell us what's going what's going through your mind right now are you like wow these guys are wildly disrespectful no not at all it's just a different interview yeah a lot very different I wasn't expecting this I came in here blind so okay now that's your guy Mike's fault he should have known yeah he didn't do a good job of telling me what was going on, but I'm enjoying myself. He literally watched us go to Maury Povich and, like, spit water everywhere and do, like, suck it, triple H, suck it, like when he was a producer there.
So that is his fault. Well, I'm enjoying myself.
Okay, all right, good. That's all we care about.
And just, like, guys talking, one guy talking to another, like, okay, we're done with all the weird hard questions and stuff, where are you going to play next year name five of your favorite cities in the nba shanghai china oh okay your career is going that bad what would you say if you went to shanghai china to play for the sharks and then Frank Vogel got hired there and he's like, you're back to 15 minutes again?

Drummond has left the interview.

He's left the screen.

That would actually be very funny, just to pray.

He's like, hey, you didn't think I'd be here, huh?

Guess what?

We're not going to be using you. How about we just let's just say the names of just random cities in the United States, and you just give us your reaction.
Yeah, okay. Charlotte.
Okay, that was a nod. Utah.
Oh, okay. Okay.
New York City. It's a Big Apple.
Ooh, that was an emphatic. That was a hmm.

Dallas?

Oh, yeah, Luka.

You like Luka?

Oh, two thumbs up.

Two thumbs up on Luka.

Los Angeles.

Clippers. Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Oh, interesting.

No disavow.

Yeah.

He's weighing it out with his hands.

I like that.

Portland.

Hmm.

Dame's not there, though.

No. Portland.
Dame's not there, though. No.
Cleveland. You're going to say yes to everything if you just said yes to Cleveland.
That was good. Detroit's your favorite.
He's coming home. Your agent must love you.
Your agent must be like, this guy gets it. Unlike the hockey players who will be like, yeah, I've already told my agent, I'm here i don't care about money so just get the deal done right you're like anywhere is fine except except a dameless portland you're you're in for everything yeah that's it that's it so we're gonna actually twist that around and make that the quote andre drummond says he will not be going to portland if damien lillard traded.
That would be a big time headline. You know what would be huge actually for us if you could just tweet out the eyeball emoji tomorrow.
You don't have to tweet anything else, just the eyeball emoji. Isn't that funny how you can tweet literally anything and there will be six different articles that will come out analyzing what your tweet can mean.
It's crazy.

We did that with Blake when, I don't know, probably like three or four years ago.

He just tweeted out the eyeball emoji.

Then the next day the show came out and we were like at the moment where it's like,

hey, just tweet out the eyeball emoji.

And everyone freaked out because NBA Twitter is weird.

What do you think about NBA Twitter and the obsession with all the storylines? Do you think it's weird? Do you think about like uh nba twitter and the obsession with with all the storylines do you think it's do you think it's weird do you think it's like lame i think it's funny you know like the other day uh like the viral thing that's going on now about uh how i said tell y'all coach play me if you want to see me play better yeah yeah i mean it's funny when i did it when i did that comment i'm like this is gonna stir up so much trouble i called mike i said look what i just did he's like all right well this is good yeah i know yeah i was like i know i have people's attention now so now i was capitalized on this i kept going so i went to twitter and started a rant there so then i was like all right well just while i got your attention i'm dropping an nft on friday i'll go check that out and you know the whole narrative changed i love it that's the way to do it and you also did uh when uh skip bayless said kareem abdul drummond you retweeted that yeah merch coming soon really i might buy one of those do you like you like that nickname better or do you like being called the big penguin what you know that the big penguin is your nickname. Yeah, I've heard that.
Why?

I guess people found out my favorite animal is a penguin and put it in front of it.

Wait, you pretended like, what?

Why would that ever happen?

Your favorite animal is a penguin?

It is.

So that's why.

It should also be the highest compliment, right, if you love penguins.

I don't think you love penguins as much as you think that you do.

It sounds like you're kind of a fraud penguin fan.

Did you cry when the gay penguins got married in New York?

I don't think I should answer that question.

Yeah, no.

I mean, it was a beautiful moment.

It was wonderful.

It was beautiful.

That also might have been in Pawnee, Indiana on Parks and Rec now that I think about it.

But you actually love – what's your favorite thing about a penguin? I just like them. I have kids.
They watch Happy Feet. Okay.
Okay. I still don't think you're a big penguin fan.
That's a personal choice. Yeah, no, but I'm looking at you right now and I'm like, this guy, you wouldn't even – what's the difference penguins is? King penguin? Emperor penguin? Emperor penguin? Pittsburgh penguin? Yep.
That's about it. Those are the two kinds.
That's all we got. Oh, Youngstown State penguins.
That's right. Pete, right? Pete the penguin.
Youngstown State. Uh-huh.
I'm looking at a picture. It looks like at one time you were a giant penguin fan.
I'm seeing a picture here of you with your arms around about a dozen penguins you've got penguin socks on um but it sounds like you've kind of had a falling out a thawing out yeah it does yeah that's a good one thawing out yeah you like that if you love penguins so much you wouldn't take a private jet right because that's bad for global warming no i'm taking that plan oh okay so you don't like penguins got it got it got it got it um all right well andre the uh nfts like i said coming out july 9th uh four nfts a mix of auction items and first come first serve um so go check it out uh and any questions for us i mean it's been great we appreciate you coming on again yeah you like this that much fuck yeah maybe do it in person when you come out here to talk with the nets i almost shook my head for that too you almost got me wow i like it i like it um all right well thanks man we really appreciate it cheers you guys thank you It's good to meet you, man. See ya.

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Jay Lasovsky 25.

Good luck spelling it.

There we go.

All right.

So I'll just tweet your Twitter out again.

And then Youngstown Bob, you all know him.

He fucking just eats pussy from C to shining C.

The mustache looks great, by the way.

All right.

So PMT memes, you want to start?

I'm going first.

Oh, this might be your fire fest.

You have to go first. Jake, why don't you start? All right.
I'll going first. Oh, this might be your fire fest.
You have to go first.

Jake, why don't you start?

All right, I'll go first.

As I mentioned last show, I moved last week.

So today I did my first official commute from my new city.

And for everyone living in the Northeast, it's tropical storming here.

Yep.

Took a step outside.

I just moved.

I live on the water, not to brag. That is a sick brag.
I had to walk along this boardwalk thing, and just the wind plus the storm. I came in seven hours ago.
My socks are still absolutely soaked. Dude, I have extra socks.
You want some? Yeah. In the pile.
Yeah, I have extra socks. I'll grab some.
All right. I got like 40 pairs of socks.
I'm in. Okay.

Can I give you a little piece of advice moving into a new place? Don't take an Uber when you could take public transportation for at least the first month because if you do it, you're not going to want to go back. Yeah, that's true.
You'll just find any excuse and be like, oh, I guess it's too late for me to take the train. Might as well hop into a cab.
Yeah. And then you just waste all your money on that.
You that that was a great fire fest though because you're basically like it sucks that i now i'm like a seafaring you know i live on the beach i mean i honestly was better off just swimming across the hudson yeah that's how wet i got oh man all right uh young son bob we had well you had too much pussy this week is that what youring. You got sex addiction? You addicted to sex? All right.
So last week, the New York City Twitter account just threw a shot at Cleveland. They said, a gloomy day in New York City is still better than a sunny day in Cleveland.
Ooh. And now there's a tropical storm here.
And all my friends just sending me tweets of the flooded subways. What's the weather in Cleveland like? It was beautiful last week.
I read the tweet when I was at an outside bar on the lake with a bucket of beer in front of me, live music, and I was torn about it. But.
I love New York City. Yeah, I was going to say, but.
Let's try to watch college football on a Saturday in Cleveland. It's tough.
It's not the same. You can't to a bar that has every single oh i have the tweet actually uh new york this from youngstown bob new york city bars are such a fun place to watch college football fans from every school yeah this is probably wasted bar coastal probably 100% what happened yeah and everyone on the production side just retweets it every saturday yeah liam is uh the first one that does it It's a great tweet.
You know that other cities have that, right? Oh, yeah, I know. Okay.
But New York City. It can be annoying as fuck to be in a bar filled with all sorts of college football.
And I also would argue that New York City has not the best college football Saturday scene. There are, but they're not.
We got best bourbon, best barbecue, and best college football in America, New York City. All right.
Memes, you ready? I'm up. Go for it.
Yeah, is that okay? Or you want to pass again? Go for it, memes. Here we go, memes.
My fire fest is Vin Diesel memes. Oh.
I can't stop saying family, and I was late on the trend. Oh, no.
Has it passed? Because I'm still not entirely sure what the family means. I've tweet out a few of them but i feel like once i start using them i got in that's when you know this is like a huge deal for you because you are the memes guy we call you memes and uh which by the way i don't i don't connor yes oh i got it okay all right whoo i was like do i know you're because you know once you get a nickname it just is that nickname so you're memes Yeah, I got it.
Okay. All right.
I was like, do I know you're because, you know, once you get a nickname, it just is that nickname. So you're memes.
Yeah. I stopped telling people my actual name.
Yeah. Just go with memes.
Memes is way better. But this is a big deal because this is like you got to be at the start of every meme.
Yeah. So how are you? I think what you do at that point is you just power through it and tweet so many of them.
People were like, is the vin diesel guy yeah i tweeted out like three and then people were you could tell they were like stop oh it's too much how can you tell if a meme is hot enough for you to start using uh you gotta see it starting to trend but if it's too trendy if there's like five tweets that have a hundred thousand likes you probably miss a boat. Certain people from ESPN have tweeted it, and you're like, ugh.
Yeah, and then they're like, Thanos, call, endgame. Yeah, Bleacher Report tweets it with the fucking skull emoji, like, it's over.
You're like, it's done. Okay, wait, is it now...
That's usually when me and PFT pick it up. Yes.
I was saying, like, when we do it, then it's absolutely over. That's actually when it's the resurgence.
You get the resurgence of. I was going to say, like, is it cool now to make a meme of, like, a player turning into Patrick Starr after they do a cool dunk? Or has enough time passed since Bleacher Report tweeted that out? No, you can bring it back.
You can bring that. We should.
Could you work on that for us? I could try. I've also got another.
Do you do memes on request? Yeah. Yeah, I've actually asked them to beef up my coffee memes.
Okay, so for Sunday, for England, Italy, I would like to have the queen, what's her name, Elizabeth II, getting out of the limousine at the toll booth in Godfather and then just getting shot up by some Italians. Ooh, that's pretty good.
All right, I'll work on that. Also, maybe can you put a little cannoli on the top of the minicar that brings out the ball? Done.
Alright, beautiful. That car is so cool.
I fucking love that car. Yeah, they do that with rugby too.
The team gets on the field and then they drive the ball out right to the guy that's about to kick it off. So cool.
Fucking love it. So cute.
Good job, Memes. Your debut on Pardon My Take.
Who would have thought you'd be here right is a little mind-blowing look at us yeah he's doing a meme right now two years tweeting at us yeah and doing a great job it was one year one year there you go i just love it i love it you think in memes you have a beautiful mind yeah yeah um all right pft uh my fire fest of the week is that kurt warner has a movie coming out and i'm going to have to watch it and it looks terrible but i'm gonna have to

watch it because we have to all watch it uses it uses officially licensed nfl products in it

and logos they have the rights much like in draft day which would have been maybe the worst movie

ever made if it didn't have official team logos in it but since it did it's awesome i'm gonna have

to watch the kurt warner story and it it looks like the corniest movie ever it looks like if

Well,

Thank you. ever made if it didn't have official team logos in it but since it did it's awesome i'm gonna have to watch the kurt warner story and it it looks like the corniest movie ever it looks like if well if he's got the corniest life ever if air bud was a person that's what this movie would be yes the other thing that's that i love about football movies and you saw it in some of the still pictures that they posted out there is is the actors they hire that are big, but they're not football players.
They're just big dudes. I saw a guy behind him, and you're like, that guy doesn't look like he lifts weight.
He's just fat. So they just throw big dudes on the sideline like, this is a football team.
I honestly think that we could get into movies like that as extras, just on the sideline yeah you've got the frame for like being a linebacker yeah i've got the frame for like a shitty kicker yeah it could why haven't we gotten that scat back scat back yeah like a danny woodhead type yes yeah i just i'm confused why we haven't gotten that call yet but i'm gonna have to watch it because it's a movie it's about football and randy quaid's brother as dick Vermeule is fucking hilarious. So good.
It's hilarious. The trailer, everyone that I know that's seen it has looked around and been like, is this real? Or are they doing a sketch comedy thing? It's going to be great.
It's going to be amazing. I'm ready to watch it.
All right. My Firefest, I'll wrap up.
So I went on vacation. I realized something this week that my life has completely peaked it's over but the small victories uh are basically all i have left and it happened when i was i went on vacation i took my family to eastern long island um and what in eastern in eastern long island that's actually just a way to say the hamptons but not be a fucking douchebag about it.
I took them to the eastern point of Long Island.

And packing a car with two little kids and doing the Tetris move to get the whole car full, I've never felt.

I earned my dad pinstripes.

That was the official moment where I was like, yeah, I'm a dad.

Because it was the hardest thing I've ever done.

And it was like I wasted not a single inch.

And it felt great.

I'm still glowing off of that.

Thank you. yeah, I'm a dad because it was the hardest thing I've ever done.
And it was like, I wasted not a single inch and it felt great. That was, I, I, I'm still like glowing off of that.
There's no better form of birth control than going through the airport as somebody without children. And then watching people with kids trying to get their kids to just do the most basic of things to ensure that they don't lose the flight.
I see that. I'm like, I don't, I don't think I ever want a child.
a child i also i also didn't use peds because i went online i found uh the the racks that you put on top of your car where you can just load it up i bought one and i started to load it up and i was like nah you know what fuck this i can get everything in this fucking car yeah i thought you were gonna say like go buy a bunch of benadryl and then the kids are quiet no that no that may be for the next one yeah that absolutely will happen for the good for you that's that's a big feather in your i'm glowing from it it's it's sad it's pathetic but let me have my moment i think other dads who listen to this show will know exactly what i'm talking about that when you you really feel like a provider yeah the the man of the house when you're like all right i got this car packed everyone's in here um let's hope we don't crash but if we do crash let's just hope i die so i have to deal with like picking up all my shit on the highway right so back in the day it was like a caveman that could go out and kill a brontosaurus and have dinner for the next three years for his family that's the mark of a man you put two car seats in two car seats and a shitload of stuff so much fuck you wouldn't believe how much shit comes with kids what do you listen to on road trips with kids uh i was actually just listening to the grateful dead i just i put on a whole show and i didn't care okay yeah i wasn't that's not we're not we're never gonna change that are you doing a troll soundtrack no we're no listen the the playing kids music in the car is not gonna happen the i the troll soundtrack is not i'm not no and it can not gonna happen singing get back up again is that it's a song of the summer the cup song is on that no that's kendrick that's the old that's like what pitch perfect yeah that's when i'm gone this is that i might play this might play pitch you will listen to the troll song it. No.
Yep. Guaranteed.
Don't knock it until you've heard it. No.
All right. Let's do numbers.
Send everyone off. I think the regular crew's back.
You guys have been great. Thank you again.
Give me an eight. Because the office is closed this week.
Did we mention that? Office closed. What time is it? They were well within their rights.
It's 12.16 a.m. right now.
12.16 a.m. The office is closed.
But we're here. Pick a number, Memes.
32. right now 16 a.m.
the office is closed but we're here pick a number memes

32 32 for memes jake 42 bob i was gonna do 42 what the fuck oh wow you could double up jackie robinson guys i'll do 52 oh why do you hate jackie 52 mariano mariano okay wasn't he a murderer no no Rico told. Rico told me that.
Really? A murderer? Rico said that. I don't know.
I get all my information from Rico. Are you thinking about Ugether Bina? No, no, no.
Rico definitely has told me that Mariano Rivera's a murderer. He said a lot of things.
He said a lot of things. Alleged.
Alleged. Not the part that Rico told me, but the part that he's a murderer.
Okay. That's alleged What's your number? 8-52-42-32.
Memes, if you get this, I will... Right now, you're on an internship.
If you get 32 on your first try, I will do everything I can to get you hired tomorrow, full-time. So that's just on there.
I seriously will. I will walk into Erica's office on Monday and be like,

we've got to hire this guy.

He got 32.

Walk in tomorrow to her office.

Not saying you won't get a job anyway because you've been doing a great job,

but I'm saying we'll make it happen right away.

Are you ready for this?

It's a destiny move.

99.

Yeah.

Now I'm rooting for you, memes.

Come on.

32. Oh! 69! Billy! 69.
Get it? Alright, Memes, we'll still try to get you a job. Memes, do you have a fun fact? A fun fact.
Yeah, this is usually when Billy gives a fun fact. Just do it in

memes form. Alligators

are ornery because they're medulla

goddess. Okay, yeah, that's from

Waterboy. Uh-huh.
Yeah. Good meme, good reference.

Love you guys. Felt a pair of tits

while I watched Waterboy in the theaters. Love you guys.

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I'm talking away.

I don't know what I want to say.

I'm saying it anyway.

Today is my day to find you.

Show me.

I'm coming for your love.