Ryen Russillo, Andre Drummond And Suns In 4

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a Friday Toufer for the people. We have our good friend Ryan Rossillo.
Hilarious interview is always great to catch up with him. We got to do it more.

Speaker 1 We got to do it.

Speaker 1 I went away from it being like, hey, we should do this more often. So it was that.
We don't do it enough. Yeah, we don't do enough.
We don't see each other enough. Andre Drummond as well.

Speaker 1 One of those interviews that I think he loves us

Speaker 1 because he did not expect us to ask questions that we asked. But a great interview.
We're going to talk NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup stays in Tampa,

Speaker 1 Euros, and Fire Fest of the Week. And of course, we have guest producers Jake and Youngstown Bob and PMT Memes in the house.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take presented by Chevy Silverado, the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever. Today is Friday, July 9th.
And PFT, are we really going to do this thing?

Speaker 1 Are we really going to do the thing where we start every podcast with Sons and 4?

Speaker 2 Suns and 4.

Speaker 1 Because we just started the podcast with Sons and 4.

Speaker 2 Suns and and Four. Hey, Big Cat, do you notice anything different about me?

Speaker 1 Your hair's lighter. I use Sun and Sun and Four.
I do follow you on all of

Speaker 1 the social media accounts. So I did cheat on this test.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Sun and Four.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm doing it. There we go.

Speaker 2 To support the Bros in Phoenix.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, the Bros. We'll get to the Bros.
I mean, let's just say it right now.

Speaker 1 There are moments in Phoenix where it just feels like it's Coachella or Burning Man, but it's an NBA Finals game.

Speaker 1 We both clipped certain fans that like, and then they showed the pregame the guy, what was his name?

Speaker 1 Oh, it was

Speaker 1 Dallin. Dallin.
Dallin. Dallin Huso.
Dallin Husso.

Speaker 1 You don't make, you make that up like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 That is the name of the Burning Man.

Speaker 1 If we did that as a fake name, people would be like, dude, that's too far.

Speaker 2 No, Dallin Husso is the ultimate. He's the Suns, bro.

Speaker 1 And you know what?

Speaker 2 I've noticed also that the Suns fans, they have such an eclectic look amongst them, but they all come together to create like the perfect energy inside that stadium.

Speaker 2 You'll have one guy wearing like a Suns shirt and a Browns hat, another guy like wearing a Yankees jacket over his Sun's jersey with no under shirt.

Speaker 2 They root for all different teams outside of basketball.

Speaker 1 But they're here for the Suns.

Speaker 2 But they're here for the Suns. And when they're in 8K,

Speaker 2 it hits different. It hits

Speaker 1 different 8K.

Speaker 2 It's way different than when they're showing the British fans in 8K. And the cameraman has a guy that got stabbed earlier that morning.
And then a girl that looks like a guy that looks like me,

Speaker 2 and then like six guys with braces to choose from. Yes.
But yeah, the Suns fans in 8K,

Speaker 2 it made the viewing experience that much better.

Speaker 1 It was incredible. So let's talk about the game.
So the Suns, well, let's start with the Bucs. Giannis was incredible.
Giannis deserves more help. Giannis, oh.

Speaker 1 He deserves more help. He actually just deserves his max players, Chris Middleton, to play like a max player.

Speaker 1 He had 42. He was doing it all.
Like everything that he wanted to do. And maybe that was the son's strategy.
Like, hey, Giannis will get his. No one else will get theirs.

Speaker 1 But Giannis was like exceptional. It was reminiscent, maybe not to the level, but that finals game, the classic J.R.

Speaker 1 Smith game when LeBron had like 50, he had like a 50-point triple-double in a loss to the Warriors in that game one. Like this was a Giannis display.

Speaker 1 He was the best player on the court, and he had no help because Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday were a combined 12 for 37.

Speaker 1 And we had this discussion the other day that Paul George gets paid a lot, and he deserves the criticism because he gets paid a lot. Chris Middleton gets paid $33 million a year.

Speaker 1 Like, Chris Middleton has had moments in these playoffs, but you need him to play better than what he played in the game tonight. Five for 16 and one for six and three.

Speaker 1 Like, you just, you can't win with that. You cannot win with that when that's your second best guy and a max guy.

Speaker 2 And Giannis at the line, to his credit, he was shooting the ball a lot faster tonight. I think he was averaging like eight and a half seconds, nine seconds per free throw.

Speaker 2 And I think he shot, what, 13 to 20?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was actually not bad.

Speaker 2 He was actually a decent night by his standards, a very good night by his standards.

Speaker 1 11 for 18. 11 for 18.
So that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 That's really good, yeah, for him. So he can't do it all on his own.
His left knee, every time he hits the ground, I just get, I get a bad feeling about it.

Speaker 2 because like his body is so freakish that he was able to come back this fast. But you can tell it's not 100%.
And that's kind of

Speaker 2 terrifying to think that the stuff that he's doing out there is when he's not 100%.

Speaker 2 He was doing that thing that we always say that LeBron should do every time he gets the ball, which is just put your head down and drive to the basket. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he was just running people over left and right.

Speaker 2 It was such like violent encounters at the rim that there were like three times that somebody just got knocked on their ass as he was going out for a layup or a dunk.

Speaker 2 And the refs didn't even do the thing where they blow the whistle and make a call one way or the other. They're just like, that's a fair play.
That's good, clean defense.

Speaker 2 Giannis is just that much stronger.

Speaker 1 He's that much stronger. And then the Suns.
So everything I just said about the Bucs, the opposite for the Suns, because the Suns, that was a complete team game. All five starters in double digits.

Speaker 1 It felt like they all had their moments. Like Mikhail Bridges, well, Jay Crowder comes out.
He's hot. The first he hits his first few shots.
Mikhail Bridges carried them in the first half.

Speaker 1 Then Devin Booker goes absolutely insane. Like, everyone chipped in.
Everyone played well. Devin, every single time, the Bucs felt like they were making a run.

Speaker 1 Every time they got it to five or six, and it was a game, pretty much the entire game, because they would come back. The Suns would just hit a huge shot in their face.

Speaker 1 And obviously, everyone will show that one possession, which was phenomenal, where everyone on the team touched the ball, and it was like kind of a scramble drill.

Speaker 1 And it was just like, that's a team that is playing cohesive basketball and everyone knows their role and they all fit perfectly. And you can't beat that with one guy.
And I feel bad for Giannis.

Speaker 1 He was trying to get us free tacos. Free tacos if the Bucs won tonight.

Speaker 2 You can't just tease us with free tacos, bringing back the Doritos Loco, the fire taco, right? Yep. You can't just tease us with that and then not give it to us.
Come on, Taco Bell.

Speaker 2 Like we watched the game. We tried to support you.
I did love that possession, though. The possession.
It was incredible. It was don't shoot until everybody touches the ball.

Speaker 2 That's a possession that... like your dad will email to you in a week when he sees the video online be like hey remember when i used to coach your team back when you were eight years old?

Speaker 2 This is what I preach, fundamentals.

Speaker 1 Kevin Booker following his shot. He followed his shot all night long.
Yep.

Speaker 2 I would like to see the statistical breakdown of Jay Crowder's performance as it relates to how likely the Suns are to win. Like if he shoots over 50% from three, because he's not afraid to shoot.
No.

Speaker 2 If he shoots over 50% from three, how often do they win the game? Because I would imagine that's the tipping point. See, Malcolm Gladwell, fuck you.
I can be smart too.

Speaker 2 That's the tipping point for the Suns' offense because you have a chance of of beating them if the role players don't contribute like that. But if they do, you have no chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and like I said, Mikael Bridges is like, in the first half, he carried him. He ended up with 27.
Also, shout out our guy, Frank Kaminski.

Speaker 1 He had a trillion again.

Speaker 1 But let's just point out, not only did he hit a trillion, so he had one minute, no stats, but he was a plus two in the plus minus. Oh, wow.
Huge. So how about that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and you know what? No turnovers.

Speaker 1 No turnovers.

Speaker 2 A clean game from Kaminski again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he logged minutes. I also.

Speaker 2 So is he playing a perfect final so far? Yeah, he is. Keep your eyes, Peel, on that.

Speaker 1 He's a plus two overall.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he's got a perfect stat line drawing zero turnovers. He could be one of the first people to ever do that.

Speaker 1 Let's get it done.

Speaker 1 I think Giannis scored like 20 points in the third quarter. That was insane.
I do feel bad for Pat Conaton.

Speaker 1 I said that out loud while we were watching because the Bucs bench is short, and they just don't, they don't have enough guys, especially when their guys aren't playing.

Speaker 1 And he's out there, he's trying his fucking best, and there's still moments where it's like, oh,

Speaker 1 he probably shouldn't be in an NBA. He probably shouldn't be playing 34 minutes in an NBA Finals, but he's out there trying.

Speaker 2 I keep thinking that he's Dante DiFincinjo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who's out for the season?

Speaker 2 Out for the season. Yes.
Yeah, that hurts. I think that this could be a different story if Dante was in there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is he actually still on the Bucs? He is, yeah.

Speaker 2 I think he is. Yeah, he just, what is his ankle?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Broken ankle.

Speaker 1 Something. I love that guy, though.
DiVincenzo. I'm going to look it right now.

Speaker 2 I will say something good about DiVincenzo.

Speaker 1 Did you look it up?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he's still on the Bucs.

Speaker 2 We like to have some fun with Buds on this show.

Speaker 2 I don't think he got out-coached as badly as he did in game one tonight.

Speaker 1 No, he...

Speaker 1 I'm not going to pick on the halftime show, but Jay Williams did happen to say that the Bucs weren't making any adjustments. They made like a million adjustments in the first half.

Speaker 1 They were trying everything defensively to stop them. And so I agree with you.

Speaker 1 he, they were, it just simply comes down to the fact that you can't have your second and third best player no-show a finals game.

Speaker 1 Like, Giannis did more than enough that if Chris Middleton and Drew Holliday just make like three or four more shots each, it's a different game.

Speaker 1 And it sucks because you waste a performance like that from Giannis.

Speaker 1 But man, like you just, you can't have those guys no-show like that.

Speaker 2 Well, I just saw, I just updated the box score here. They took an assist away from Chris Paul.
So he was was at nine at the end of the game. They brought him down to eight.

Speaker 2 Can you imagine if the PMT Suns in 4 bet had hit at 10 and then they took one away after the fact?

Speaker 1 I couldn't.

Speaker 2 So it's a blessing. So it's a blessing that he didn't get to 10.

Speaker 1 Also, I just love this series because it's 2-0 on the over. And it was a life too short to bet the under day because that second quarter was terrible.
And then they just, that's the NBA, baby.

Speaker 1 I think the Suns ended up taking, I think they went like 20, 20 for 40 from three.

Speaker 1 That's pretty nice. Yeah, 20 for 40 for three.
three.

Speaker 1 That's actually,

Speaker 1 look, we're a Suns podcast. We think it's Suns in four, but I actually think that that stat, 20 for 40 from three, is even more on the side of Giannis.
It's so incredible. That

Speaker 1 the team went 20 for 40 from three and only won by 10 points. Giannis kept them that much in the game when they were shooting that well.

Speaker 2 They shot 48.9% from two.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they were on fire. 50%.

Speaker 1 Really fucking good team. Like, the the Suns are just a really, really good team.
And they're a team back to that possession.

Speaker 1 They just play, like, everyone knows their role and all the pieces fit so well together.

Speaker 1 Where, like, you just see it. You see it like they have every single thing they need.
And Chris Paul at the helm. I don't know.
Suns and Four. Although I do think the Bucks,

Speaker 1 I think the Bucks will win this.

Speaker 2 I want it to be Sons and Fourth because, as we've said, Suns and Four is just a lot of fun to say. It's a fun.
You know what? It's not really a saying. It's more of just a mentality.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's more of like the Suns could win this series in a gentleman's sweep, and that's still a Suns and four. They still won four games.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just all about sometimes it's about the journey, not the destination, man. But I'm looking at campaign stats here.

Speaker 2 Do you remember tonight when Mark Jackson was like, the offense should run through campaign right now?

Speaker 1 Well, it was when he, I think it was the moment when campaign, there was like it was a one-on-four, Cam being the one, and he shot a three-pointer.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's just the respect that campaign gets.

Speaker 1 And his three-point shot is, it's ugly, but it works sometimes.

Speaker 2 Champagne campaign, is that what they said?

Speaker 1 He has moments where he really does, like, for stretches of a game, it was probably about three or four minute stretch tonight, where he does think that he's Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 1 Like, he thinks that, like, listen, everyone get out of my way. I'm not passing the ball.
It's my game.

Speaker 2 Mamba mentality.

Speaker 1 You got to have it.

Speaker 1 It's mamba mentality with not the mamba skills.

Speaker 2 Is there anything worse than having maybe the worst player? I'm not saying this about campaign, but I'm just saying

Speaker 2 about another team that has like the last guy off their bench with the mamba mentality. First, you have to have the mamba physicality to get to the mamba mentality.

Speaker 1 See, I like the mama.

Speaker 1 Who comes first? If you're a role player, if you're a bench guy, having the mamba mentality is not always a bad thing because you want a guy coming off the bench who's like, hey, he could catch fire.

Speaker 1 He could do some things like pushing it a little bit. So I like what campaign does.

Speaker 2 I'll put it this way. What if Billy Football had mamba mentality?

Speaker 1 That would be a problem.

Speaker 1 That would be a problem. That would be a big problem.

Speaker 2 Because Jake, the guy sits next to, actually is Mamba mentality.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, absolutely. Jake's more like Tim Duncan.

Speaker 1 Just silently, like, incredible.

Speaker 1 Silently the goat.

Speaker 1 All right. So, Suns, I do think the Bucs are going to win on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 It is now the Suns are going to win this series. I'll just say it.
I think you agree?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Suns are going to win. I'm actually going to revise.
I think it's going to be a gentleman sweep. I'm rooting for Suns in actual four, but I think it's going to be four to one.

Speaker 1 I do think, though, that Giannis is going to have a legacy resurgence in a loss in this series. Because in the Brooklyn series, everyone's like, Giannis, like limited player.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he was going up against Kevin Durant, who, you know, however you want to argue it, one or two best players in the NBA.

Speaker 1 He's not as good as him. But he still is really, really fucking good and a superstar in every facet of the game.

Speaker 2 I know. I've always heard that role players play better at home.
I don't know how true that is. It sounds like it's a really good thing to say and a smart thing to say.

Speaker 2 So that's what I'm believing is going to happen in games three and four. So they'll get some contributions from like Middleton.
Obviously, he's not a role player, but

Speaker 2 and Lopez.

Speaker 1 And Dano Beers.

Speaker 2 And Dana Beers. I was asking, is Dana going to be up there?

Speaker 1 I think so. I assume so.
He's got an invite from Bactiari.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's got to go.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he is the definition of a role player who will play better at home.

Speaker 2 He is a Suns fan in a Milwaukee body.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's the perfect description of Jesus Beers.

Speaker 1 That is. All right, let's talk some other sports.
The Stanley Cup is staying in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady, the town that Tom Brady lives in, those stats are just continue to be ridiculous. I think we went over it.
Like every Bay Area team when he was growing up won.

Speaker 1 When he went to Michigan, like... the Red Wings and then Michigan football, then the Red Sox, the Celta.
Everyone won in Boston. Now in Tampa, you have three titles in, is it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, three titles in less than 12 months.

Speaker 2 And you've got World Series that was barely lost by the Rays?

Speaker 1 Yep. So Tampa was just incredible.
I have the one thing

Speaker 1 that's nuts to think about.

Speaker 1 Obviously, everyone goes to the UVA, losing to UMBC, coming back and winning it all the next year, right? That is the ultimate redemption tour.

Speaker 1 I think the Tampa Lightnings might be right behind that because the tweet, the famous tweet, I'll read it for everyone. This was after they got swept by the Blue Jackets in round one.

Speaker 1 The Tampa Bay Lightning main account tweeted, we don't have any words and we know you don't want to hear them.

Speaker 1 We understand your anger, your frustration, your sadness, everything you're feeling, we get it. This isn't the ending we imagined and certainly not the one we wanted.

Speaker 1 Thank you for being there the entire way. And then they went and won.
back-to-back Stanley Cups. That's pretty much perfect, right?

Speaker 2 With the help of the no-cap lifestyle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which I'm just,

Speaker 2 we're not capologists.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to argue it because I know that other teams, the Blackhawks, might have done it. So it may be a little different because Patrick King got hurt in the middle of the season.

Speaker 2 Right. In this one,

Speaker 1 Andre Kucharov got hurt last year.

Speaker 2 Correct. During that season.
Correct. And then they use that.
They used a special exemption this year. But you know what?

Speaker 2 If you're playing by the rules they give you, can't really complain about that. And you know what? It's absolutely 100% something that Belichick would do.

Speaker 1 And also, Andre

Speaker 1 Vasilvsky, I probably butchered his name. He was incredible.

Speaker 1 The stat that I saw last night, he is now in five straight series closeout games, had a shutout.

Speaker 2 But that's incredible. Wait, what about game four? Because they didn't win game four.
No, no.

Speaker 1 In five straight closeout games. Yeah.
So, no, in five straight series, the closeout game.

Speaker 2 The game that they ended up winning, not the one that was in the game.

Speaker 1 In the last game of the series, he has had a shutout.

Speaker 2 Five straight. I was a little bit confused about that because I was thinking back and and I was like, wait,

Speaker 2 I thought they were talking about clinching games.

Speaker 1 No, so

Speaker 1 he pitched a shutout in the Stanley Cup final last year against Dallas. Then every game that they won the series this year was a shutout.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 It's incredible.

Speaker 2 Me and Feitz were talking about as we watched the game together that if his name was just like a little bit shorter, he would be a household name. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But Vasilevsky, it's just like, if it was Valewski, everybody would be like, yo, that's Valley.

Speaker 1 He's just Ski. Or just Vesky.
Viesky. Vieski, yeah.
Vieski. He needs a sweet nickname.

Speaker 2 Like Van Beesbrook, that's a long last name, but the Beezer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The skier.
The skier. Vieski.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Viski actually works. Viskey pops.
Andre Vieski?

Speaker 2 And I'm going to do something I never thought that I'd do. I want to take my hat off to the Tampa Bay Lightning fans.

Speaker 1 Not third leg Greg.

Speaker 2 Not third leg Greg, but the rest of them. And not the people that sat around me and hit Nate in the face.

Speaker 1 No, Nate deserved it.

Speaker 2 Nate deserved it.

Speaker 1 And Nate would admit that he deserved it.

Speaker 2 Nate deserved it.

Speaker 2 But they seem like a decent group of fans. Yeah.
And I think they have, do they have the longest sell-out streak in the United States?

Speaker 2 That seemed to me like that's just us thinking, oh, they're a Florida team. They can't be that good of hockey fans.
But apparently Tampa Bay Lightning fans are actually very dedicated. No,

Speaker 1 I mean, my...

Speaker 1 Time in Tampa Bay has only been during the Stanley Cup playoffs. So I don't know what a regular season game is.
I'm sure it's just as good. But it is an electric environment.
Everyone is locked in.

Speaker 1 I also would like to add the fan that followed me into the bathroom in 2015 and said he was going to beat my ass while I was wearing full pads, pissing at the urinal.

Speaker 1 And I could not defend myself because he could have just grabbed me by the back of the jersey.

Speaker 2 Sweated you while you're pissing?

Speaker 1 I would have been fucked.

Speaker 2 Sweated with your dick out? Yeah,

Speaker 1 he does not get included in the great fans.

Speaker 2 There was one guy that was sitting right in front of me, and he threatened to have me kicked out because I was a Caps fan. And then he was like, you probably didn't even pay for these tickets.

Speaker 2 You probably can't even afford them. What is it that you do? And I was like, I own a professional basketball team in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 And then he just looked at me and I was like, do you own a professional basketball team? And his wife was staring at him now. And he goes, yes.

Speaker 1 Just like completely lying about it, but absolutely not.

Speaker 2 You can't get big dick by the guy behind you that looks like Kid Rock with AIDS. So it was

Speaker 1 that, besides that guy, I'm taking that guy out. That guy out, too.

Speaker 1 I don't think we own the Water Dogs at that point, but it's smart to not mention the Water Dogs. No, that's unless someone says something.
Because then they they would have the one up.

Speaker 2 He would have been like, okay, yeah, at least I don't own that team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like that's the worst. That's not something to brag about.
No. Shout out the Water Dogs.
We had two guys on the Reserve, All-Star Reserves. I don't know how that works.

Speaker 1 Two guys on

Speaker 2 a lot of the superstars don't like to play in the All-Star game because

Speaker 1 who's our degrom? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Drew Snyder. Drew Snyder is our, yeah, he's our degrom.

Speaker 1 He needs an enforcer.

Speaker 2 You know, like the guys don't want to do the skills competition either. It's become like, okay, two risk of injury at this point.
So it's almost better that you get on the reserve.

Speaker 2 Remember, Andy Dalton was like a Pro Bowl reserve for something like three years in a row?

Speaker 1 Mitch was in the Pro Bowl. That's true, yeah.
And everyone did the home meme because it was Deshaun, Mitch, and Mahomes all in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 How long into this season? Let's just say hypothetically, Justin Fields lights it up and he comes out of the gate like first month.

Speaker 1 Why does that have to be hypothetically?

Speaker 2 I'm just saying the first month he throws like, I don't know, 15, 20 touchdowns or something like that.

Speaker 2 And then runs for another 10. Great.

Speaker 2 So if he does that, do all the memes about here's what Patrick Mahomes has done compared to the Bears quarterbacks in the timeframe leading up to this year, do those go away?

Speaker 2 Do people just stop making fun of Bears quarterbacks?

Speaker 1 No, it's going to take more time. Yeah.
It's probably going to take more time.

Speaker 2 I don't want to give it up that either.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, Young Sound Bob, you're probably, you love it because it has shifted. Like the emergence of Baker and then Mitch, like the bad quarterbacks has shifted to the Bears.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like I didn't watch the draft this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Yeah.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 The guy who runs the CBS sports account, like I, he hates.

Speaker 2 He's kind of a job at that time.

Speaker 1 No, he, yeah, he, every single, like, he basically does, it's, it's Dana Beer doing beers doing the beer tweet. He's like, oh, I need engagement.
Do the bears tweet. Uh-huh.
Do the bears quarterback.

Speaker 2 And then half of the engagement is just people tagging you. Like, hey, hey, remember that your quarterbacks all suck?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. I remember.
I remember.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Sneaky, awesome sports weekend. McGregor on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 Wimbledon final. Federer.
Where's Jake? Oh, Jake's not here. Jake Marsh decided not to show up because his goat, Federer, choked.

Speaker 2 Is Jokovich still in it? Yeah, I think he was. As early as yesterday, he was still in it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't. So I haven't followed up on that.

Speaker 2 News travels slowly across the pond.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch at least

Speaker 1 10 minutes of the Wimbledon final.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have strawberries and cream.

Speaker 1 I actually don't know if I'll watch it in 10 minutes. He is.

Speaker 1 Who's in it still, memes? Beratini Hercut versus Herkits. Bertini versus Herkitz? I'm going to go.
That's made up.

Speaker 2 Wait, who's playing against Jokovich? Jokovich versus Shapovalovi.

Speaker 1 Okay, I got Shapalava. You know, Sheripova? No, Shapalavi.
Shapalavi?

Speaker 2 I got Joker in four sets.

Speaker 1 Four sets. I do too.
I have Joker to win the whole thing.

Speaker 2 Is anybody going to be watching Wimbledon in England? Is the crowd going to be completely empty there?

Speaker 1 It is a lot of...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's like 8 a.m., so no, that's actually a great day. Just go to Wimbledon, get fucked up there on some champagne, then go drink some warm beer and watch it come home.

Speaker 2 I feel like the crowd is just going to be just pounding beers, probably starting at about 10 p.m. the night before.

Speaker 1 Yep, absolutely. All right, so should we do, we got a little Fantasy Lads?

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, so I mean, the finals,

Speaker 2 it's at Wimbley Field. We've been saying it's coming home for the last several weeks.

Speaker 2 So we thought that we'd bring back one of our favorite segments from football season. Yes.
The Fantasy Lad Boys.

Speaker 1 Fantasy Lad Boys. Are ready? Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Oi. Oi.

Speaker 1 It's me. Nigel Garrison.
Very. They said, we're not coming home.
It's coming home. Right? It's coming home, isn't it? It's

Speaker 1 what's his name?

Speaker 2 Bad Cumber Bitch.

Speaker 1 What's his name?

Speaker 1 Benedict Combo Bitch. Benedict Cumberbitch.
Me and the lads, we're going to head out. We're going to pull a couple Richards and tune some things only, though.
We're going to head some beer.

Speaker 1 I'm just reading KB's tweets with all the slang. Hey, wait, bloody blood clot.

Speaker 1 They said the British would have their heads hung like a chicken.

Speaker 1 I say some chicken. My boy's got a free yard, so gonna rock up to us with a few fat tinnies, then roll fat Zimmer and be lick off.
Right, in it? Wait, wait, whoa!

Speaker 2 What for bloody HA double cricket bass is that?

Speaker 1 Who are these boys?

Speaker 1 What's up, fuck heads?

Speaker 1 It's me, Giancarlo Motopucciano Ita aggio my mama is gonna make fucking sundae sauce out of your rotten teeth england you pieces of shit you think that you can fuck with italy my friend my friend you're gonna meet the paisons some real fellas this weekend what's up it's tony rabioli we're gonna be watching the game down on the jersey shore dj's in my car

Speaker 1 that's all i got hey i didn't prepare anything it's coming room it's coming room bitches we've never even been to italy we just fucking love italy all right i just fucking fucking love my great-grandfather from Sicily, so go fuck off.

Speaker 2 I love Sopranos memes.

Speaker 1 Chef Boyard.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Yeah, Sophie Gravy.

Speaker 2 I took a 23-in-me test, 0.01% Sicilian base.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck yeah, but you better see my fucking license plate. I got the Italian flag on it.
Hell yeah. Hey, I'm fucking parking over here.

Speaker 1 All right. That's your Euros premium.

Speaker 2 That's Fancy Fuck Boys.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 we've said it's coming home. Yeah.
I'm switching. I'm

Speaker 2 record scratch. I'm on Italy this week.

Speaker 1 Well, so we had this discussion beforehand. When you're watching sports that you don't really have a true rooting interest, because like I'm I have no English.
I have no Italian.

Speaker 1 Like I don't have a rooting interest, right? I'm rooting men for ultimate tragedy

Speaker 1 in the most epic way. And there's nothing more tragic than Wembley and the crowd shots that will occur if England finds a way to lose.

Speaker 1 And after our discussion on Tuesday about how likable the English fans are, I have to say, kind of left a bad taste in my mouth with that Harry Kane penalty.

Speaker 1 Like, one, that was not a penalty on Raheem Sterling. Two, I don't think you should be able to rebound a penalty in soccer.

Speaker 2 Why not?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just feel like you should get it.
If you miss it, you miss it.

Speaker 2 All right, I think that what the law should be, they should be more relaxed on the goalkeepers being allowed to take a step or two off the line. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Or not allow the person to score on their own rebound. You can't make it that tough on goalie because it was a great save that he made.

Speaker 1 Right, it was. And that's the same thing.

Speaker 2 So you can't be expected to hold those types of saves.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So I think they need to change the rule.
If you miss it, you miss it. It's a fucking free throw.
I would hit nine out of ten

Speaker 1 PKs.

Speaker 2 Baggio never went after his own rebound. That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I'm excited for that game, though.

Speaker 2 I'm very excited. You know, I think I realize it's a combination of I like the Sopranos memes more than I like the It's Coming Home memes.
Right.

Speaker 2 Because it's coming home memes and it's fun to say until until it actually comes home. And then you're like, wait, what do I do with it now? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Now that it's here, I don't have space for it in my house.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 So I've decided that the Italian memes are way better.

Speaker 2 Plus, when you have a take on a sport that you don't know that much about and you're being proven correct on it, like my take on Chiesa being an awesome player, I...

Speaker 2 I'm rooting more for my own selfish brain as a narcissist to believe that I am a good soccer analyst than I am for British people to be happy.

Speaker 1 That was like that Italy-Spain game. When it went to PKs, like Italy was laughing it up, yucking it up.
Spain looked like they were so scared for their life. And I was like, Italy's won this just

Speaker 1 from body language alone.

Speaker 2 When you play tiki-taka soccer like the Spaniards do, you look like a coward if you're losing.

Speaker 2 If you're getting your asses kicked and you just try to do that triangle stuff all the way down the field and you can't get past midfield, you look like a coward.

Speaker 1 It is funny that Spain just like, they just pass. They forget that you have to shoot.
Their shooting buttons broken on FIFA.

Speaker 2 You can always get a little bit closer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's always a better

Speaker 1 shot. Keep passing the ball.
Keep passing the ball.

Speaker 2 They're all get there. Their offense is like the Sun's half-court offense, except they don't have a DeAndre Ayton to pass the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they need a Harry Kane. Yeah.
The tap it in merchant.

Speaker 2 Harry Kane, he's going to look like, what's the other Harry Styles?

Speaker 1 Harry Styles.

Speaker 2 They're going to make him look like Harry Styles this weekend.

Speaker 1 I just love the Tap It In Merchant. It gets everyone so upset.

Speaker 2 Also, people are starting to call them Penguin because they score too many PKs. It's true.

Speaker 1 It is true.

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Ryan Rossillo and then Andre Drummond. Great interviews on a Friday, and then we'll finish up with Firefest on the other side.

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Okay, here he is, Ryan Rossillo.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It's been too long.
We wanted to make sure he didn't fall off the top 10 recurring guest list, which I think you might have, but you're back in it.

Speaker 1 It's Ryan Rossillo.

Speaker 5 Who's ahead of me?

Speaker 2 I actually think, I think Titus might have leapfrogged you. I think Titus might have leapfrogged you.

Speaker 5 That's fair.

Speaker 1 Dan Heron, maybe? He's better. Yeah, Mr.
Portnoy, Ryan Whitney. That's okay, though.
Lenny Dykstra. You're number one in my heart.

Speaker 5 Pro-athletes? It's tough. Look, I'm competing with pro-athletes all the time.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Number nine in our program, number one in our heart.
So, Ryan Rossillo, the Ryan Rosillo show, great podcast. Go listen to it right now, but listen to this first.

Speaker 1 So let's start here. NBA Finals.
So, as you know, we're a huge Sons podcast. We're the number number one Sons podcast in the world.
Is there, do you, are you rooting for anyone in these finals?

Speaker 1 Like, you don't actually care about these finals, right?

Speaker 5 Right. So obviously you guys are making fun of how much I love Chris Paul.

Speaker 5 I did a weird video where I said at the end of it, I was like, he's everything you want in a player and maybe even a son.

Speaker 5 And then the people that didn't get it were like, hey, you should have edited that out because I say like, leave it in there. It was kind of the way to close the whole thing.

Speaker 5 I would put these finals, like we were talking about it the other day. Like if you think of all the finals were a team, like for me, it'd be the Celtics, right?

Speaker 5 And then you go, okay, how many finals did I care as much about who won? And a lot of times it's you rooting against somebody.

Speaker 5 Barkley Sons, 93 is, I probably care about that one more than the 08 Celtics Lakers.

Speaker 5 I would put this one probably behind one of the Steph ones, the first Steph one of 2015. But yeah, Chris Paul getting this, if he gets it,

Speaker 5 this will mean a lot to both Chris's family and mine.

Speaker 1 So let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 If you were to select one player from each team that you would want your hypothetical non-existent daughter to date,

Speaker 2 I'm guessing Chris Paul would be the one from the Suns. And then who owned the Bucs?

Speaker 5 Chris Paul, though, I don't know if I'd want him dating my daughter because I feel like if he brought her home late, then it'd just be a huge argument. He'd be like, no, that's not.

Speaker 5 There was traffic and you don't understand. And I'd be like, well, which way did you go? And then he'd be like, that's not the way to go.

Speaker 1 You're wrong.

Speaker 5 You don't even know the area. And I'd be like, what are we talking about? Like, I've lived here forever.

Speaker 5 So I think he's very combative and he'd want to win every game and he'd want to win every argument. So that one might be a little tougher to deal with.

Speaker 1 uh i'll throw a name out there i got one too yeah oh

Speaker 1 oh maybe shaq

Speaker 1 wedding in the wedding in the bahamas yeah max deal coming up he does look older though than like you like eighten has the old face going so that that'll be very serious yeah it's it's weird i don't know he he really does look like he could be 40 and he's 22 or whatever it is um he would have got paid in college which is that's a big red flag for his character that's true huge red flag legal now that is

Speaker 5 respected yeah he was a disruptor no see you guys are so behind the times now if you do something wrong when it was wrong everybody's like 15 20 years later it's like what are you talking about now you're like wait a minute don't none of the rules apply like if we ever legalize murder can you imagine oj's tweets he's like i was a political prisoner i was people forget when you were on the life episode you said you gotta kill at least once just to see if you like it Did I say that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a great line. It was a very well-delivered line.

Speaker 5 It feels like it's a little out of context now. But yeah, I think I remember something like that.
And just try to deliver it deadpan. And it's like, wait a minute, do you ever want a job again?

Speaker 5 Maybe you shouldn't do this with people who don't know you.

Speaker 1 All right. So, Chris Paul, so if

Speaker 1 you're hypothetical son, so let's say you have a son.

Speaker 1 Let's go 20 years from now, he's playing

Speaker 1 high school basketball. And every 20? No, he's still in high school? Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 the pregnancy takes at least 10 months. Are you going to get ⁇ let's say in a year you find

Speaker 1 the whole thing happens. Not right this second.

Speaker 5 That was smart. Okay, now I understand that.
I gave a little pop. I'm like, some, yeah, I'm like, my kid's that dumb.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, he could be. But anyway, so you're like, you're like, all right, this is my son.
He's got everything that Chris Paul has. I love this kid because he's so competitive.

Speaker 1 And then every other play, he flops. Do you say, like, hey, son, I love you so much?

Speaker 5 No, my dad used to do this with me after my games. Like, if I had a bad game,

Speaker 5 you know, we'd get in the truck truck because he worked construction and it had the signs on the side of it, F-150, Cherry Red.

Speaker 5 And we'd park, we'd go and park somewhere after I had a bad game and he'd say, hey, I just want to let you know, you decided you were going to have a bad game on the ride over here tonight.

Speaker 1 Wow. Was he right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, was he right?

Speaker 5 It was unbelievable. I mean,

Speaker 5 he was a big-time motivator for me, and he knew he always had to kind of piss me off to really get the best out of me. Like, he's like, you don't play well until you're really mad.

Speaker 5 And that's when you're at your best.

Speaker 5 And he's like, if if you're not going to be like that then we're not going to we're not going to show up to these games anymore which was ridiculous because we were definitely still showing up to the games but i i would do something like that with chris paul or a version of my son that was just like chris paul and i would be like look you know i'm here for you your mother loves you too You know, we're trying to do the best with the custody arrangement.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry about the mistakes I've made, but you got to stop flopping. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 We, we'd, we'd have a part, you know, we maybe grab a sub, split a sub in the front cabin of the truck because that's what my dad and I would do. And yeah, I couldn't, that'd be tough.

Speaker 5 That'd be really tough, but I don't think he flops the way that other guys flop. And I know everybody's going to push back on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, no, he's right. He's better at it.
Yeah, he does it more.

Speaker 1 He does it so much that he almost almost hurts himself.

Speaker 1 Did you notice? And I know you love Chris Paul. I mean, we are the number one sons podcast, but you came to the Chris Paul thing like last week.
I saw it.

Speaker 1 We've been on the train for like at least three weeks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just started to like him.

Speaker 1 When he got pushed by Pat Beverly, he did kind of flop at the end. He grabbed his face and then he realized, wait, we're winning this game by 20.
I'm good. And he stood up and he like celebrated.

Speaker 5 I saw that differently. I got to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 This is Frank Kaminsky. I saw Frank Kaminski beat the fuck out of Pat Beverly and everyone else saw something different.

Speaker 5 Have you ever been pushed in the back like that, though, when you're not ready? Like, we're lucky. That's like getting rear-ended at 24.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 2 It's the thing that they throw people out of like pickup games for. If you're driving to the hole and somebody pushes you in your back when you're jumping up in the air.

Speaker 2 It's actually the most vicious version of assault.

Speaker 1 But it hasn't. I've never had it because I'm not a dickhead like Chris Paul.

Speaker 5 Here's what I would say about his flopping. I don't like any of it.

Speaker 5 And the fact that anyone continues to call when the guard is bringing the ball up and he just stops and gets run over by a big guy and they give the guard the foul.

Speaker 5 Like with all these changes everybody's talking about, all you'd have to do is get the rest together and say, hey, we're just going to stop calling it.

Speaker 5 And after a few weeks, after you turn the ball over, you take a terrible shot and it goes over the backboard and Trey Young or James Harden are looking around or Chris Paul getting run over.

Speaker 5 These guys will stop doing it once you stop calling it. So I hate that play too, but I think Paul does those, especially because it's in front of everyone.

Speaker 5 You know, that stop in transition, get run over and get the call.

Speaker 5 It's so egregious and horrible that it's probably thought of like in a worse sense in the best by the basketball community than guys just flop to the lane every time.

Speaker 5 I mean, Harden actually will pull your arm into his body to take the shot and the other guy's arms are pinned and then the ref calls it all the time.

Speaker 5 Like I can't believe that has ever been called more than once for any player in his career because we see it all the time.

Speaker 5 So I actually think there's more floppers on shots and also on drives than Chris Paul.

Speaker 5 But when Paul does the deal where he lets the guy run up his back, it just looks so much worse because it's the only thing we're looking at.

Speaker 2 I also think that Chris Paul, we need to give him some credit because on a lot of these flops, if he hadn't have flopped, he was about to get hit like a half second afterwards.

Speaker 2 You can see like he has pre-crime in his head and he knows like, hey, here comes an elbow. I might as well flop before it hits me.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, as he's down the ground, the elbow does swing through his airspace. So it's almost like, you know, he sees he's a good point guard.
He sees the play before it happens.

Speaker 5 Yeah, a lot of it, I think, comes out of just being incredibly competitive, but that's where Harden fans or other fans of other guys. I mean, look, we all know what we're doing.

Speaker 5 We're all sticking up for the guy that we like. But I still think with Paul, it doesn't happen as frequently as it does with the other guys.

Speaker 5 And so that's why I feel a little differently about it than just extending out the legs every time.

Speaker 5 I I mean, look, Steph, who I love, started doing it more this year than he's ever done it before because he's like, look, if you guys are going to keep calling this stuff, I guess I'll start doing it.

Speaker 5 So I don't really blame the players for doing it. I blame the refs for allowing it to evolve to this point where guys are now mad.
Trey Young gets mad while the guy's about to whistle.

Speaker 5 Like the ref is about to give him the whistle and Trey's already mad at him and then stays mad because it's like, you weren't quick enough with the whistle of the bullshit call that I just earned.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I think you're in the right. Kyle Lowry, douchebag,

Speaker 1 everything he does is terrible. Chris Paul, hero,

Speaker 1 you want him to be your son.

Speaker 1 That's how we can kind of sum it up. Yeah, yeah, perfectly.
All right. All right.
So the Suns are going to win this series, right?

Speaker 5 I think we make mistakes all the time with playoffs, man. We really do.
And, you know, say the Suns get game two and they're up to oh, the desperation level for Milwaukee at home for game three.

Speaker 5 I say this every single year because I just think it's on point, is you can't fake desperation. You can't be as desperate as Phoenix will be, or excuse me, as Milwaukee would be.

Speaker 5 Like you can say the right things, you can do the cool chance, win on three, suns come running out of the tunnel, but you're up 2-0. And human nature, it's kind of like when there's a lead.

Speaker 5 Like Phoenix was totally in control of that game, I thought. They knew they could do whatever they wanted.
Milwaukee changed their defense three or four different times.

Speaker 5 Phoenix was actually surprised sometimes.

Speaker 5 I think when they get switches, like you could see Devin Booker be like, oh my God, I can't believe how much time I have to make a decision on what I want to do next. And like, okay.

Speaker 5 And then you're up 20. You feel like you're in control.
Milwaukee goes small, and you're a little, you know, you're mailing it in a little bit like the seven, eight-minute mark of the game.

Speaker 5 And then Milwaukee got it to seven. And you're like, wait, this is a game? Like, how is this a game? Because it hasn't felt like this.
So I think, I think the same thing applies in series.

Speaker 5 And, you know, they'll figure out something with Lopez. You know, they didn't bring him back to close this game at all.
The same thing happened in game one against Atlanta.

Speaker 5 They didn't bring him back basically for the last 15 minutes of game one because they felt like his coverage, it just wasn't going to work. So I don't know if Milwaukee will go small again.

Speaker 5 I don't know if they got back into the game because they went small or Phoenix was up 20. So I am very anti.
We see one game.

Speaker 5 It looks like one team has no chance, especially how they match up defensively, and then think like that's the series. We've all done this for so many years now.
We've watched so many series.

Speaker 5 I mean, how did you feel about the Clippers against Dallas? How did you feel about the Clippers against Utah? And then Utah, the Utah Clippers series looked like two completely different years.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, that was crazy.

Speaker 5 It was a matter of day. So even though I like Phoenix going in and the guard part of this is just overwhelming and Aiton has turned into a star here in a very short amount of time.

Speaker 5 I still think there's a version of Giannis being a little bit better. I thought they were a little slow in the first half collectively.

Speaker 5 I could see a game where their size and Drew Holiday stepping up, and we're going, oh, wait a minute, maybe Milwaukee's figured some things out. So I don't think there's this massive, massive gap.

Speaker 5 Although, yes, I picked Phoenix going in.

Speaker 1 Okay, so follow-up question.

Speaker 1 Well, let me just, a side note, that's lame of you to actually be like, hey, I'm going to think about this instead of just saying something and then like what we do. Your prisoner's son's in four.

Speaker 1 Yeah, son's in four, son's in four. That's not great for your career.

Speaker 5 Anyone listening? Do not, don't do what I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead. Okay, don't be thoughtful.

Speaker 2 That was actually the worst possible thing that you can do. Measure media.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 5 TV producers would be like in the hallway after I do that spiel. They'd be like,

Speaker 5 um, yeah. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 All right. Yeah, we're going to hit you up after game three.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Could you just send sons and four? Um, if the sons lose,

Speaker 1 a whole thing. How mad are you going to be when people like me and people like PFT and the rest of us say that Chris Paul is a choker and he'll never win the big one?

Speaker 5 Publicly, you won't see much, but privately, I'll see you for about 48 hours.

Speaker 2 Do you think that if Chris Paul loses the finals, that should count as a loss for LeBron's finals records as well?

Speaker 5 Wow. I hadn't really thought of that.
That way. Wait, I think it's only a win.
It's only a win. I mean, didn't you say PFT? He's been so supportive of him this entire time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that I've kind of turned the corner on LeBron this postseason. He's doing his best shining the lights, shining the spotlight on his good buddy Chris Ball.

Speaker 2 So if they win a championship, I think LeBron definitely needs a ring.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't think it counts as a loss for him, but it definitely counts as a win. Although I did love when Chris kind of went back at him a little.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, LeBron, it was kind of funny how, like, almost. You know, LeBron is a very, like, at this point, it's almost political with him.
If you like him, you're like, hey, great point.

Speaker 5 And if you've already decided you don't like him, then it doesn't matter what he says. But when he said, hey, I told everybody like these injuries while he's at home and people just crushed him.

Speaker 5 And then Chris Paul's like, hey, dude, we all knew the deal. We're like the two most powerful people in the league.
And we all voted to come back.

Speaker 5 So like, you say what you want, but I'm trying to win a ring here, which is exactly what everybody else would be doing. Like if LeBron were still alive and or anybody be saying.

Speaker 5 Like, do you think he would be like, yeah, these, these playoffs have actually been a lot easier to get through? Of course not.

Speaker 5 So we all, we all do what's in our own self-interest, especially when you're that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was, I know that there's been a lot of injuries, but there's also been like guys sit out a lot during the season. And also a lot of the injuries have been a little bit freakish.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, Kyrie. What are Silver?

Speaker 1 What'd he say?

Speaker 5 Well, Silver, like, pushed back on the whole thing because it's like...

Speaker 1 Good. Finally standing up to his boss, LeBron.

Speaker 5 Would you agree? And I always felt like this way at ESPN.

Speaker 5 And like, I would say, hey, if you're going to present me with science science that's very conclusive about what rest really means and load management and all these things, then you've got me.

Speaker 5 But you can't be dismissive of the television partnership. You know, business is about partnerships.

Speaker 5 And if you keep telling one of your business partners, the one that's paying the biggest tab every single season, like, hey, sorry, you guys got another big Saturday game, but our science says this, because I've asked GMs, like GMs that you would think would be all about rest, being like, you know what, I've looked at everything and it's honestly still a little inconclusive.

Speaker 5 But I feel like the media side of it has just been in

Speaker 5 this rest mode for years. I mean, I've talked about this before, but I feel like most media members that cover the NBA are very much pro-rest.
It's like, hey, you can't have these guys sit enough.

Speaker 5 And so we have the quick turnaround, which is a lot to ask, both emotionally and physically, which I think all of us understand.

Speaker 5 But then you had, when you were doing the all-NBA voting and you were looking at like the 20 guys for 15 spots, if you were to say, oh, that guy missed 20 games, good luck finding anybody that didn't.

Speaker 5 Like Jokic and Chris Paul, like there were very few guys that played out the entire season. So the best players missed almost a third of this abbreviated season.

Speaker 5 And then we still had all these injuries. So Silver is basically saying, hey, look, the science is still inconclusive, which is another thing that I think we've all learned.

Speaker 5 It's like, hey, listen to the medical experts. Those guys disagree with each other all the time.
We're just too dumb to understand what their arguments are. So I am not sold on really any argument.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying it's had nothing to do with the, you know, the injuries have had nothing to do with the quick turnaround because as you said, a lot of the guys, they're either freakish injuries or guys with long injury histories already.

Speaker 5 It's just overwhelming. And I think it ends up being turned into that talking point point where everybody's on the same page.
When I'm like, why are you so convinced that you're right?

Speaker 5 Because I'm not convinced of either.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But if you have, if you land on somebody else's foot, there's no way that you can blame that on like the short turnaround.
It just happens in basketball.

Speaker 2 If it's like James Harden, you got a hamstring injury, then yeah, you could say like, okay, that could be an overuse injury.

Speaker 2 Just, you know, like, given his injury history, it might be, it might not be, but you don't really know. I don't know what to do about that either.

Speaker 2 I just feel like what the players really want is they just want to be like, hey, I'd like a day off. Like, it's work sucks sometimes.
I'd rather not play every single day if I don't have to.

Speaker 2 I think most people would understand that, but they're kind of couching it in this like pseudoscience of, okay,

Speaker 2 if I miss one out of every seven games, I'll be less likely to tear my ACL. And I think that's total bullshit.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the day, too, LeBron's made all his money. Like, he's made money.

Speaker 1 So I think that the problem I always had with it is like, if you're a guy who's working for that next contract and you play way less games and the salary cap goes down and now you're kind of screwed out of that, you're like, hey, wait, you don't speak for me i want to play like i want the league i want the cap to go back up i want all these things to happen i'm not at the end of my career i'm at the beginning of my career so that's where it to me and chris paul kind of said it perfectly because he is the most powerful guy outside of lebron and he does speak for the players right yeah i mean he's head of the players association right so i mean if you're talking about you know when the first I mean, it was such a wild time trying to figure out any of this stuff because of the information when we had the first shutdown for four months.

Speaker 5 So then it's like, okay,

Speaker 5 when's this going to happen? And then you're getting a a bunch of people to hear from trainers like, these guys are going to need like 60 days just to ramp up to get back to regular season

Speaker 5 levels. And you're thinking, okay, well, you could also just not shut it down for four straight months and have to ramp it back up.

Speaker 5 Like there's some responsibility on the athlete himself to try to maintain some level of conditioning, although nothing's going to match the intensity of a real NBA game.

Speaker 5 And the NBA still found a way to give them like, hey, guess what, guys? You got 60 days. And I was shocked.
And so then they bring everybody back. And

Speaker 5 I thought it was an unbelievable success for the league to even pull off what they did with the bubble.

Speaker 5 I know we argued about ratings all the time and all these different things, but it's like, look, we're talking about real extenuating circumstances here.

Speaker 5 So I think the players and everybody deserved a ton of credit.

Speaker 5 But when there was talk about like not coming back and, you know, Michelle Roberts, her position is to just whatever the owners in the league says, she's going to oppose it by definition of what her role is.

Speaker 5 Like we've seen that in baseball and football. I mean, that's what the job is.

Speaker 5 But I kind of sitting there going, all right, so if all the players are cool with losing like three or 400 million, then fine. Don't do anything.
Like if you're cool with that, then okay.

Speaker 5 But my gut would tell me when you put it to a vote, right? It's going to be a lot more because, like, that's how social media can be so weird.

Speaker 5 Cause you're going, wait, do these guys actually not want to come back and play? And then the vote comes out and it wasn't even close. No, it was overwhelming.

Speaker 5 Like, we don't want to lose all that cash. So, I feel like the league has done an incredible job.
The players have done a great job.

Speaker 5 It sucks just like any other fan that all these guys have gotten hurt.

Speaker 5 I don't want to see anybody get hurt, but I'm just not sure based on everything I've read that we have some conclusive evidence that these injuries have happened just because of what we had in the past year.

Speaker 5 Maybe it's true, but Silver definitely pushed back on it, which I was just at least, I guess I was even surprised because he's been so pro player as a commissioner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he's been pro-LeBron as a commissioner.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think there's a big difference. So now he's like, he's finally, you can imagine life after LeBron in the NBA right now.

Speaker 2 Like you just said it, if LeBron were still alive, for a moment, I was like, what, LeBron's dead?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 you can picture a moment when the NBA does not have him as, you know, the mouthpiece for everything that they're doing.

Speaker 2 And at that point, like Adam Silver is going to have to find a backbone and be his own guy.

Speaker 5 You're really hammering Silver here, PFT. What's the story?

Speaker 2 Well, no, he's just a puppet.

Speaker 2 I think everybody knows that Silver. He's a puppet of either LeBron, ESPN, or the NBA Reddit.

Speaker 1 And China, China. And China.
China.

Speaker 2 And China.

Speaker 1 What about China, Ryan?

Speaker 2 Do you disavow China? The entire nation. I'd like you to speak on China as a whole.

Speaker 1 What about it, Ryan?

Speaker 5 You know what I've learned? I'm not educated enough on the topic.

Speaker 1 i'm gonna stay out of it

Speaker 1 stay out of politics from now whose property is the south china sea oh who has fishing rights good question p it's something we we debate all the time all the podcasts it's actually how we how we start every show who has the the fishing rights fishing rights you catch a flounder in the south china sea who gets to who gets to eat it who gets to eat it that's a really great question yeah

Speaker 1 yeah i don't I don't know.

Speaker 5 I imagine it's a little different than we thought. I mean, I have, are the Russians involved somehow?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can always say Putin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's always an exact answer.

Speaker 2 Okay, let me ask an easier question. Do you believe in Taiwanese independence?

Speaker 5 I believe in everybody

Speaker 5 having the best day they possibly can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. That's good.
Yeah. Live, laugh, love, I think is what will free Taiwan.
Just say that. Yeah.
Live, laugh, love. More hoodies.
Yeah, live love. More hoodies.

Speaker 5 A couple memes. It's like, hey, I did my part.
I did an Instagram post the other day.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 We've seen you unload some Instagram pictures.

Speaker 1 I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2 Hank is excuse, by the way.

Speaker 1 Hank is woke, by the way, about, he's not here right now, but we'll speak for him.

Speaker 1 That angle of you and your jump shot, like that jump shot, you don't, does that go in? Because all you're doing is focusing on jumping high. You're way too high in the air.

Speaker 5 Yeah, people thought I was Photoshopped in that one. I dunked it the first, the first time ever of age 45.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, people have said specimen. I don't like calling myself that because it's kind of like a third person thing.
It's weird. Yeah.
But

Speaker 5 I got up so high on that one. I was deep and I was just trying to get like I was, you know, where I was.
I was on the border of Canada. I was up like upstate New York.
I went through a big drive.

Speaker 5 I was out in the lakes of Vermont. So I did this whole thing.
I go, you know what? I'm going to do I'm going to try to find different places to play pickup hoops.

Speaker 5 And then I found the oldest log cabin in the history of the country, PFT. I mean, this cabin's been moved all over the world.

Speaker 1 I love log cabins. Yep.
Huge log cabin guy.

Speaker 5 I'll tell you, easy to heat, right? I mean, those guys had it right. A heating bill on those, no problem.
A couple cords of wood, get you through the winter, one room, center pipe.

Speaker 2 I love a good wood burning stove as opposed to a fireplace. It gets hotter.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and then you can use it to cook.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right on, crack an egg right on top.

Speaker 2 I noticed you didn't answer the question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you totally deflected it.

Speaker 2 Was there actually a basketball in your hand when you were starting to shoot that jump shot? Or were you just, you were just jumping up into the air out on a court?

Speaker 1 I took a job.

Speaker 1 I took a jumper. If you had told me that you parachuted and that was the end of the parachute, that would have made more sense.

Speaker 5 No, I definitely was taking a jumper.

Speaker 5 I mean, look there's a level of loserdom to my instagram page that only a few appreciate um and then some people are like maybe you're just really that big of a loser and you use that as an excuse to go ahead and post this dumb shit um but yeah i i had a photo dump and it was going to be like a photo dump of me just taking jumpers at eight different places that i'd play pickup hoops but my left foot doesn't really even work right now anyway so i'm not even that good at pickup hoops anymore but yeah i was way out i was deep i was i was trey young range when they're trying to get back in the playoffs yeah i love that explanation, though.

Speaker 2 It's just a photo dump, just a bunch of the pictures I had on my camera. I had to put them on Instagram or else my phone was going to be too full on memory.

Speaker 2 So, good thing I was able to upload this picture of me looking awesome on a basketball court.

Speaker 5 By the way, though, that's of all the people that I would expect to appreciate the joke, that was the joke. It was two pictures.
It was me taking a jump.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, I get it. I just love it.
So, right. Yeah.
No, that it's just.

Speaker 5 Because usually photo dump is like, here's my insane body. Yeah.
10 shots in a row, and I was in Tulum again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's talk about something different.

Speaker 1 uh who i'll give you an either or who finishes first uh george r martin finishes winds of winter or you finish your first script oh wow good question uh i've i've finished it's me because i've finished scripts

Speaker 5 but it was it was a lot like espn it's like you walk through the doors you're like i've made it and you're like no no no there's a whole nother boss level that's in that other building and you like you got to get past that and you're like well how do you do it and you're like no one most no one does so you're like oh okay um in writing you're like all right i finished it and then you send it to your agent and then you go now what and they're like good job

Speaker 5 entourage gets made well way better no but i am there is something i'm working on now it's called wicked fast wicked furious

Speaker 5 And it's a lot of people don't understand the car racing scene in Boston as well as I do.

Speaker 5 And I would say it doesn't, one of the critiques of my writing is that it can, the storyline can move a little slower and Fast of the Furious moves fast. I mean, you know, you're in it immediately.

Speaker 5 And so this takes place in Boston, a bunch of guys, street racers, and the first 20 minutes or so, they don't race because they argue about the best way to get from one side of town to the other.

Speaker 1 Oh, this has legs because now you can do maybe the second one can be whether you take the race. No, whether you take the 405 or not during rush hour.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but they've already done a bunch of LA ones. But honestly, they were like, it's not super diverse.
And I go, well, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 The casting for it and they were like well there's three murphs and i don't think any of them are related and i was like yeah murph one murph two and murph three and that's what leads to confusion in the sequel and they're like worry about the sequel

Speaker 5 you got to get one made right so i don't know they told me it was a bad idea to just jump on they're like they've already made nine of them and i was like exactly that's my point like i have a way better chance of writing one of these wicked fast wicked furious and it tracks well was the other feedback what about this what about this you you do an f1 movie i know that you're really into formula one and it's like a fish out of the middle.

Speaker 1 I don't know as much as you guys. No, no.
Who do you root for?

Speaker 2 I mean, who do you

Speaker 2 enjoy?

Speaker 5 No, we had an ask out to Ricardo, I think, a month or so before you guys did, and we were told maybe August. And then when you guys got him, like in a day,

Speaker 5 now I'm open. I'm open.
Yeah, I'm just going to tell you straight up. I didn't listen to the episode either.

Speaker 1 Fucking guys.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what we did. We just started calling him out on our show.
We bullied him. We said he won't come on.
And then everyone started started tagging him and everything, and then he came on.

Speaker 5 It's kind of an American thing to do, though. I don't really see the sport that way.

Speaker 1 Okay. You see it as a European does?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I just have more respect for these guys.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, what you should do is you should do like an F1 movie, Fast and Furious, Wicked, Fast, Wicked, Furious, and like Fish Out of Water, have it be essentially Ben Affleck and Matt Damon somehow.

Speaker 2 Like they're the fastest street racers in Boston, and they find themselves on the F1 circuit going to like Monaco, Budapest.

Speaker 1 You know, maybe what?

Speaker 5 Hey, you know what the opening scene is? I just thought of this. When Damon, listening to a little Elliott Smith, don't put that on if you're in a bad mood.

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 5 driving cross country, and then Affleck pulls in next to 89, may probably mass pike because it'll be going west. And then that's the opening scene of the next one.

Speaker 5 So you transition Goodwill hunting fast. Yeah.
And then they're racing each other to get to California because you didn't realize the whole time Affleck was with Mini Driver on the low.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then instead of having Ludacris in the side seat, you've got King Casey from the Dropkick Murphys in the side seat, and they're just blasting Irish folk music.

Speaker 1 You also could have Matt Damon be in maybe the third, he becomes a,

Speaker 1 how do you say a principal of the construct, principal of the team? I don't know. You're an F1 guy.
We're not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, principal. Yeah, like a GM.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Matt Damon, with all his smarts, figures out the best aerodynamic car of all time and beats Toto Wolf, who's actually secretly a Nazi, not actually Toto Wolf.

Speaker 1 That's just the, you know, it's based on fiction. So I just want to call call him that.
Yeah. And then, yeah, no, that's a good problem.

Speaker 5 But the problem is, the fourth installment of Wicked Fast, Wicked Furious, they realize that Damon was cheating.

Speaker 1 Is also a Nazi.

Speaker 5 And then Tom Cruise shows up in the fifth one, takes them all out. Yep.
Yes.

Speaker 2 And they're in Monaco. There's a big disaster on the course.
There's like construction.

Speaker 1 Because Affleck's movies out for the fast. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. And you know that Nazis sell in movies.
Like everyone watches those movies. Always.

Speaker 5 They do well.

Speaker 1 They always do well.

Speaker 2 There's traffic, and Affleck's like, I've seen this before, and he flashes back to the big dig. He's like, I know how to get through this.

Speaker 5 That's it. They start, they like start looking at old plans of the big dig, and they're like, No, dude.
They're like, It's exit 23, the waterfront. The water.

Speaker 5 I wish we had written more of this down. I guess we're supporting this.

Speaker 1 It's not really, yeah.

Speaker 2 These are probably our worst ideas. We're getting another thing you should do is just write yourself into it.
That way, you get a double check.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 I'm surprised we're talking this much about Affleck right now, knowing how Big Cat feels about.

Speaker 1 Well, it was usually

Speaker 1 a bit of a tough. Do you think it was tacky? Do you think it was tacky to wear the same outfit as J-Lo?

Speaker 5 That's amazing. I don't think it was nearly as much the same outfit as it was the shade room logo being over it, making it look like they were wearing sweaters that said TNR.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And also, that's why everybody got on their case.

Speaker 1 The second picture looked like they were looking at like a car crash.

Speaker 5 It was weird.

Speaker 5 Have you talked to A-Rod about it?

Speaker 5 Have you addressed this at all?

Speaker 1 I sent him a text after they broke up saying, sorry about the breakup, boss. And he just hearted it.

Speaker 1 That was it. No way.

Speaker 5 You didn't even tell me this.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, that was it. That was it.

Speaker 1 This is the last time you've texted me. That was the last time we've texted.

Speaker 1 You have to give it a space, you know? I love that meeting became someone that could get to the point of like.

Speaker 5 It was six years ago. You were like, hey, can you guys be our first guest ever on the podcast? I was like, done, no problem.

Speaker 5 Two hours later, hey nope i can't do it they're not gonna they're not gonna let me yeah and i i used to love it they were like you're too important to our brand at espn i was like am i i'm like well just go on with these guys they're like no we're not gonna do that i was like no one's gonna listen don't worry about it and then it's like

Speaker 5 Now, six years later, you can text A-Rod after breaking up with J-Lo.

Speaker 1 And he responds. A joke.

Speaker 1 Well, he's not going to get it. No, I mean, let's, let's not.

Speaker 5 I don't want this to get back to him. I don't want it to be uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 If it does, I can handle it. I know how to, I know how how to.
You definitely can. I know how to do it.

Speaker 2 You have developed into somebody who can be kind of mean and get away with it.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, that's true. Yeah, I mean, this podcast is kind of mean sometimes and gets away with it.

Speaker 2 I think the trick is, as long as you're just funnier than you are mean, it always plays.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you also have to be mean to yourself.

Speaker 2 Paul Rabel came on the show last week, and he was like, you guys have just built a brand where you can just make fun of everybody.

Speaker 2 He's like, that sucks for me being a guest on your show right now.

Speaker 1 But it's like, I said to him after, like, it's a perfect example. Like, I've been very mean about the Water Dogs, our team that we own.
But it's also...

Speaker 4 I'm actually, I'm getting uncomfortable about this.

Speaker 1 But it's also natural because I actually fucking hate the Water Dogs. They suck.
They make us look bad. So which one's better? Like, do you want me to...

Speaker 1 throw out a tweet that's clearly an ad or do you want me to talk about it naturally? I happen to think that the natural conversation of the Water Dogs and you're a writer, Ryan. Well,

Speaker 1 sort of. He's a writer.
You're a writer. He does write.
Yeah, you do write. The story arc here.
It's an expensive hobby. Yeah, it's set up.

Speaker 1 This movie has a conclusion where the Water Dogs lift the trophy. And I'm like, I always believed in you guys.

Speaker 5 There hasn't been one guy on that lacrosse team to tell you to go fuck yourself yet.

Speaker 1 No, not publicly. I think La Crosse is the one sport, too, where it's like they're just happy to have people talking about them.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I saw the last tweet where there was no all-stars from the Water Dogs, and you were like, good.

Speaker 2 Well, it's got two endings, possibly.

Speaker 2 Either the happy happy ending where they win or have you seen Marley and me yeah I know that's kind of like the alternate ending we're also considering old you know why what happens what is that Bob Marley yeah uh no every all the dogs die but they probably go to heaven well now I'm not gonna see it yeah speaking of which why haven't you gotten a dog and been like I'm taking a step up in my life I'm starting to get more responsible It's a great question.

Speaker 5 It's been asked a few times. I always say this.
I don't want to do that to the dog.

Speaker 1 The dog might not like the NBA. He might be a hockey guy, and then you're fine.

Speaker 5 He's going to just look at me, like, come up the stairs, be like, oh, right, and again.

Speaker 2 What kind of dog would you get?

Speaker 5 You know what's funny is I never was,

Speaker 5 I've told the story before, and it isn't something that does my Q rating any good, but, you know, because my dad was a humble carpenter at the beginning.

Speaker 5 laying brick actually the first few years uh i was i was on the job sites with him he would bring me to every estimate because he felt like if he had this little toe-haired kid coming along he'd have a better chance of of closing the deal instead of being like a 6'5 guy with long hair in this pickup truck so he would show up and i'd hold the i'd hold the tape measure at the other end you know and all the the homeowner would always think it was the cutest thing ever and he knew what he was doing but like estimate whenever i heard the word estimate after i get picked up at practice or school or everything i was just like oh this sucks like i just want to go outside and play wiffle ball and he'd be like no we got to go do an estimate and that also meant that i got attacked by like everybody's dog when i first showed up at the house so for a very long stretch, dogs to me, I was like, oh, another fucking dog is going to jump all over me all the time.

Speaker 5 And then when I got to college, we had a horribly trained dog in our house that used to eat your food as soon as you left, take your spot.

Speaker 5 I think I remember one night I was like rifling through the fridge probably super late. So I wasn't 100% with it.

Speaker 5 And then the dog like hit me and the freezer door was open because I was getting iced too. And I hit my head on the freezer door and I like knocked myself out in the kitchen.

Speaker 5 So I've had this horrible, horrible history with dogs. So when people at ESPN would be like, how come you don't get a dog? You're by yourself all the time.
And I was just like, you know what?

Speaker 5 We haven't had a great run. And I see people that, especially when I was traveling all the time, like they get a dog selfishly for those down moments because they're alone.

Speaker 5 But then it's like, oh, by the way, I'm going to go to LSU for five days. So you'll be in a kennel.
Right. I just don't, I don't think unless you have the yard, which I don't have

Speaker 5 out here, the beaches, they don't let you bring the dogs on the beach. That's a big no-no out here.
I just, I understand dogs now.

Speaker 5 I'm open to the idea, but I wouldn't do it unless I were 100% into the dog. And that's probably why I'm not married either.
Like, I'm just like, hey, I got to be 100% on.

Speaker 1 You know, you put your wife in a kennel, is what you're saying? When you go to LSU?

Speaker 5 Like, hey, I'm going to be gone a lot. May not talk to you for a couple days.
And she'd be like,

Speaker 1 I left the toilet bowl open, so if you get thirsty, don't worry.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Look, I've got a door.
You've got my DoorDash, right? I'm sorry, Postmates. I don't know whose sponsor is, so go ahead.

Speaker 2 You know, you could have just said lab when I asked you that question. Yeah.
That would have have been fine.

Speaker 1 That's who said lab.

Speaker 1 Ryan Wayne. That's why Rosillo is the best.

Speaker 2 Here's why everybody should hate me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but that's why, you know, I'm not going to do the pander tweets. Like, you know, we're always joking about it.

Speaker 5 Like, you'll look and see and be like, well, this person definitely doesn't believe that, but they're going to go with this move today.

Speaker 5 And I just like, there's certain things I feel the same way as a lot of people do, but I don't. I don't feel like I need to be checked off the box.
Be like, hey, does Rosillo like

Speaker 5 healthy infants? Oh, I haven't seen him tweet about it yet.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 Like, let's, let's, all right, well, let's not check him off yet until we see him acknowledge that healthy infants are awesome. So, whatever.

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Speaker 1 So, alright, so my question.

Speaker 1 So I told you beforehand, I was going to spring it on you, so you don't know what I'm going to say, but you had a line, I think it was probably three months ago, that made me laugh so much that I put it down in my notes.

Speaker 1 And it might not even be funny because I don't even remember the context. But you said you're giving life advice.
You're like, listen, I've been a guy for a really long time now.

Speaker 1 And I was like, what the fuck does that even mean? And it got me thinking, like, Ryan is sitting here being like, I look, I got my guy resume. Like, you could see it.

Speaker 1 I graduated guy school in like 1999. But my question to you is, because I was thinking about it more,

Speaker 1 I actually think that's a like a weird thing. Like, when do you become a guy? Because, like, kids aren't guys.

Speaker 1 Like, even a 19-year-old, I don't think is a guy. Because

Speaker 1 it's a little bit of maturity. It's a little bit of

Speaker 1 life wisdom. It's a little bit of kind of like, hey, you're not a guy until you stop maybe trying to hook up with your best friend's girlfriend, like kind of thing.
Like, that's not a guy move.

Speaker 1 So, when do you become a guy? And how long have you been a guy?

Speaker 5 I feel like, you know, the thing I'm most happy about, however, uh, circuitous the path was, is that

Speaker 5 I wouldn't be as good as a talk show host, and like I'd like to think that I've done an okay run here over the last 20 years doing this, but I had to be kind of uh

Speaker 5 you know, like not have it figured out for a really long time.

Speaker 5 I had to bartend, I had to have those moments where I'm like, this isn't going to work out, and then studying for a general contractor's license, and then having other moments where like nothing is working out, and then being so single-minded it's like literally the only thing you care about while still you know trying to keep up with your friends and and have like a normal life when you can't really have a normal life when you were doing what i was doing at the beginning at esp like i was driving back and forth and living in a hotel room i think i stayed in a hotel like 200 nights the third year i worked at espn because i just was like i don't care this is the only thing the only thing i care about so instead of just going to syracuse and immediately like having enough networking that you can get your foot in the door in this industry that is so hard and I think it's harder all the time.

Speaker 5 I think those experiences of just being an idiot and getting stuff wrong allows me to be in a better position to give people advice.

Speaker 5 Because there's other people who've been like, How can you give anyone advice when you don't have any kids? You've never been married.

Speaker 5 And it's like, yeah, but everybody's already, most people have done that. And if you did it earlier,

Speaker 5 there's not as many life experiences for me to like see a guy emailing and he's like, hey, so this is, you know, some guy who's 25 and goes, hey, so, you know, there's a girl at the gym and she's super flirty with me, but she doesn't respond to my texts.

Speaker 5 And then when she sees me, she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't respond to your text, but, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, dude, she's, it's really simple. Like

Speaker 5 people have been on both ends, or if you have, you know, zero game, I guess you've never been on the other end of it, but like you don't.

Speaker 5 You don't ignore somebody that you're interested in, you know? And at 25, you'll, you'll still have these moments of like, wait, what's what kind of game is being played?

Speaker 5 And you're like, actually, it's a very simple one. Like she's probably seeing somebody else.
She likes the attention from you at the gym. And if she's dating somebody, he's not there.

Speaker 5 So that fills some sort of void for her, those interactions that you have with her. And like, you just have to be around long enough.
And people could listen to this and say, yeah, obviously, idiot.

Speaker 5 Like, thanks for the doctorate in something really simple. But it still feels like so many people miss.
these signs. And then there's certain things that will miss too.

Speaker 5 So I guess, again, it's a long-winded answer of it, but I'd had to have all those ups and downs and different different experiences.

Speaker 5 And dating is obviously part of it too, where you're like, okay, well, I've already had this happen to me or I did this to somebody. So I know exactly.
So that's my answer of being a guy.

Speaker 5 And I'd say it probably, unfortunately, has gone a little bit longer, but probably kicked in in the mid-20s. Well, mid-20s.

Speaker 2 How does it work out now if you do something that's decidedly unguy?

Speaker 1 Do you have to,

Speaker 2 are you guy enough to look yourself in the mirror and check your guidem, or do you need another guy like buddy system to be like, hey, Ryan, that's not a guy moving. Pull you over.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Slap you in the face be like hey dude what are you doing you're a guy the only person checking on me is me um so you know the the the isolation people my friends were joking that you were the you're the most built for this of anyone we know um

Speaker 5 going through it all but i i'm harder on myself than anybody else could possibly be so i i try to keep myself in in check but you know whatever i i it's weird because i mean we're getting a little deeper here but i can think about my career and all the stuff i've accomplished and and having a nice house and all this stuff, which seemed impossible and everyone would have bet against 20 years ago.

Speaker 5 But then sometimes I'll think like, was I just really successful, but like, I still haven't even come close to figuring it out.

Speaker 5 Like, do I think I have it completely figured out and everything's going to be nice and easy now the rest of the way, or do I constantly try to make things really hard on myself where I can only operate with massive challenges?

Speaker 5 Like trying to become a screenwriter, like as much as we bullshit and joke about it. This isn't easy.
It's really, really hard.

Speaker 5 And here I have something that's really successful and yet I have this other thing thing that is really the thing that I'm trying to figure out how I can do it.

Speaker 5 And most of my friends are like, why can't you just chill the fuck out and have a really successful podcast and a really nice life as you go into your 50s?

Speaker 5 I'm like, well, I also don't know if I want to be giving out dating advice to college kids when I'm 55 years old on a podcast.

Speaker 1 Okay. I mean, that me, what that just signaled to me is when you figure out the writing part, we are going to see Ryan Rosillo try to make an NBA team with that sick jumper.

Speaker 1 You're like, I need another challenge.

Speaker 2 Here we go. I want to see you compete for an egot, but not necessarily like the actual awards.
I just want you to have gotten paid for something in all of those categories. That's your personal e-got.

Speaker 5 Grammy's gonna be tough.

Speaker 2 Spoken word. Narrate your own book.

Speaker 5 I've actually been working on some of my spoken word.

Speaker 1 Really? Give me a sample.

Speaker 5 Seasons.

Speaker 5 There's four.

Speaker 5 Why only four?

Speaker 5 Who is in charge of the seasons? Not you. you

Speaker 5 fall

Speaker 5 ahead of spring or behind

Speaker 5 in which order

Speaker 5 are the four

Speaker 5 summer i'm here for it

Speaker 1 that's that was beautiful that was beautiful all right now we're gonna get that spoken word grammy because it was recorded on our show yeah thank you i

Speaker 5 I'm think about what I just said, though. Don't let

Speaker 5 the moment, don't let the moment just pass by.

Speaker 1 No, no, I am I definitely think about it I do I do agree with you though your uh life it's kind of crazy we've only had four though with all the innovation yeah yeah well I mean LA does what does it have one it gets a little chilly here in the winter in Manhattan Beach like 60 there was a 50 degree night oh my god Jesus Christ you okay oh man you leave the water dripping in case the pipes froze

Speaker 1 Your car on? You left the car on, didn't you?

Speaker 5 There is nothing, well, it's not always funny because a bunch of bad shit happens, but when you have those security camera community message boards, that's the most unforgiving interaction in the human race.

Speaker 5 Like, and again, granted, too, it's 4th of July. And then somebody would be like, is anyone hearing gunshots? I'm over in Hawthorne.
And you're like,

Speaker 5 it's the 4th of July. But somebody would just be like, hey, here's a video of a person breaking into my car at 3 a.m.
And it's like, why'd you leave your fucking doors open, moron?

Speaker 5 You're like, okay, my kids. toys were stolen in my baby seat.
And it's like, shouldn't have left the doors unlocked. The reason,

Speaker 5 the reason reason I bring any of that up is that if it gets down to 50 people are like hey does anyone have firewood yep this is a problem yes

Speaker 5 you're sorry we're going to Mexico Shellbacks is doing a hoodie donation fundraiser right now so just go outside and donate whatever hoodies this is going to get down to 49 next week I love that bar it's a great bar

Speaker 1 I ask can I ask PFT a question while we're on the arts yeah yeah I do we have do we have uh we have like three four more minutes we have uh interview with total wolf next so Must be nice.

Speaker 5 Yeah, ask a way.

Speaker 1 Do you want us to give you Daniel Ricardo's number?

Speaker 5 He's out here in LA. I did think we would hit it off.

Speaker 1 Oh, that makes it worse. Yeah.
I know.

Speaker 5 I know. I know.
But I think I may have the inside track, no pun intended, to

Speaker 5 F1 in Texas. But now when I say it to you, you guys would set up a merch tent there.

Speaker 1 You know, we're racing. We're actually both driving.
You guys are actually

Speaker 1 so bad. Yeah, they're like, couldn't get worse.

Speaker 5 I wish more people understood. Because I don't even like making fun of Haas after watching the TV show because I feel bad for the owner being like, yeah, this sucks.

Speaker 5 But like, they had a 17, 18 position. I was like, not a bad weekend for him.

Speaker 5 I wish more people could understand Haas jokes. All right, let me, if you guys have to run, then let me just ask you this and then you can ask me whatever because I'll be.

Speaker 5 Why do you hate Yellowstone so much, PFT?

Speaker 2 I don't hate Yellowstone. I actually don't hate it that much at all.
I love season one. I thought season two was pretty good.

Speaker 2 But then season three, it just, I was watching for the scenery because every episode was like, Rip I need you to beat the hell out of this guy and then Rip would go beat up somebody and then Cole Hauser would have like sex with his wife but they'd start crying before they had sex then they'd have sex and then Cole would leave and that was every show but the the background the scenery was incredible then Kevin Coster would be like grandson go get a cookie and that's like the entire that's every episode from start to oh and then somebody dies someone always dies and uh it was just like that repeated you know one right after the other but I still liked it I still watched it because I was like this show can become good again at some point.

Speaker 1 Um, but just it just got it got a little repetitive.

Speaker 5 All right, that's fair. Um, because Sheridan, the writer for it, I mean, he's the all-timer, you know, Wind River, Hell or Highwater, and then Sicario.
Right.

Speaker 5 Um, we had we had the producer Sicario that had to like bring him in say, Hey, we need to change the end of this. And Taylor was like, Nah, I didn't want to do that.

Speaker 5 But I would love a challenge of trying to speak in full, like, full Yellowstone an entire podcast and see how long we could go.

Speaker 5 Because you just be like, Hey, Rip, want to head into town and kill some people? And then Rip just turns and goes, like, people have been killing this town for decades.

Speaker 5 You know, like everything

Speaker 5 has a meaning to it. There's another layer, and it's about saving, it's about saving that area of the country.

Speaker 2 The true nature of a man can be told from how clean his horse is.

Speaker 5 Men are a lot like fence posts. You've got to dig them out of the shit and set them straight every now and then.

Speaker 2 If you see a buffalo heading east, you best head west.

Speaker 1 I'm just Michael Scott right now being like, I wish I understood any of this. What else did you you have?

Speaker 1 That was it.

Speaker 1 No, that was it.

Speaker 1 I got to watch this. Did I just strong? Two kids has killed my TV watching ability, so I apologize.
I'll catch up.

Speaker 2 It's a good watch.

Speaker 1 It is. Yeah, I said I literally don't have hours left in the day, so I will try, though.

Speaker 2 If for nothing else, just the scenery, like the backgrounds in every scene. Even like in those later episodes, I would still watch every one because it's like there are mountains there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch. That was really good.
What? The wire. Yeah.
Oh, fuck. I'm going to catch up to that, too.
Who did it?

Speaker 1 Sopranos.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch that soon as well. It's on my list.

Speaker 2 You're kidding, right? You've spoken to me.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, I have. We spoiled the whole fucking thing because Hank was on episode two, or no, season two, and we just started.

Speaker 1 He told us he was on season two, and we just spent the next like, actually, it's still ongoing. It's like two years ongoing.
We just like to remind you for him.

Speaker 2 Like every three months, hey, Tony kills Christopher.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Holds his nose after the the car accident.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously you guys are going to do that to him, but if you're that far behind it.

Speaker 1 Right. It's like it's been 15 years or whatever.
Like, I remember watching it live in college

Speaker 1 the last episode. So

Speaker 1 2007, I think, yeah. And I thought my cable went out like everyone else in America.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was in a hotel room.

Speaker 1 Oh, surprise. I was in a hotel room 200 in a year.

Speaker 5 Layup joke.

Speaker 5 Tease you right up for that one.

Speaker 1 Yep. All right.
Well, Ryan, thank you. Suns in four was your prediction?

Speaker 5 No, Suns in six.

Speaker 1 Suns in six. Okay, and don't worry.
If the Suns blow it, we will be nice to Chris Paul. No, you won't.
No, we won't.

Speaker 5 We won't. That's the game.

Speaker 1 And guess what? If the Suns do win, we're the biggest Chris Paul fans in the world. So you really can't win in any way with us.

Speaker 5 And winning life, just being friends with you guys.

Speaker 2 There it is. I love it.

Speaker 1 There it is. Get a dog.

Speaker 1 He could have just said like Chihuahua, too. Yeah, he could have done it.
That'd be funny, like big man, little dog.

Speaker 2 Anything instead of of realistic? He was like, here's a story about my father.

Speaker 1 Here's a story about how my father used me.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I love my dad, guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you sound like you love him when you're in the truck getting fucking berated.

Speaker 5 Iron sharpens iron. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you want a real truck, go to Chevy. Chevy will get you a truck that will give you good memories with your father.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we never had four-wheel. So, you know, that was a big thing when I got old enough to buy my own car.
I was like, I'm going to get four-wheel. All right.
So, this pod's obviously peaking. So, um,

Speaker 2 no, just, I think there's it's no coincidence that you were traumatized in a Ford.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 You know, a lot of miles there, though. A lot of miles.
A lot of good, a lot of good memories, except for the bad games.

Speaker 1 Was that the car that Kennedy got shot in? Was that?

Speaker 2 Oh, that's a Cadillac. Oh, it was a Cadillac.

Speaker 1 That was a convertible. I forget because Ravel, it's been a while since Ravel tweeted out an 8K.

Speaker 2 Wait, you thought JFK got shot? He was riding in the back of a pickup truck?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, a Ford, no, a Ford convertible. I don't know, Mustang?

Speaker 1 Fuck it. No, I knew he wasn't in a pickup truck.

Speaker 2 We should just implant that memory into people's brains. You know, he was riding an F-150.

Speaker 1 If he was riding a Chevy, it would have been fine. It's not safe.
Yeah, it would have been fine.

Speaker 2 No president has ever been assassinated in a Chevy.

Speaker 1 I actually might tell my son that, like, don't ride in the back of a truck. It's not safe.
That's how JFK got caught.

Speaker 5 Growing up, man, JFK stuff, like, that was crazy. I was thinking about that the other day.

Speaker 1 Like, all the way like.

Speaker 5 No, but it was prior to the JFK movie coming out.

Speaker 5 But no, this is, there are always little reminders, whether it's you, me, long talking. You know, PFT usually and I, we only talk history.

Speaker 5 I sent him something recently that I thought he was really going to enjoy. I'm reading this General Custer book.
Yep. And there was a guy in his army.

Speaker 5 He used to dry, or he would, he would send love letters to his wife and he would draw pictures of his erect penis in the letters.

Speaker 1 So these guys, right.

Speaker 5 So these guys researching his. story as one of the guys in this army in the 7th cavalry, like found correspondence between this guy in the army and his wife.

Speaker 5 And they were like, yeah, he was pretty into his wife.

Speaker 2 I just don't know. I don't understand how you verify that it was erect.
That's making a pretty big assumption. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He could have shown it. That's why scholars.

Speaker 5 Hey, look, history goes to the winners.

Speaker 1 Grower versus shower.

Speaker 1 All right, we do have to go, though. Thank you, Ryan.

Speaker 2 Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 We covered a lot there in the end. We did.

Speaker 1 We did.

Speaker 5 A lot of rapid-fire stuff.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Talk to you later.

Speaker 2 Good to see you, buddy.

Speaker 2 Before we get to Andre Drummond, I want to talk to you about.

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Speaker 2 And here he is, Andre Drummond.

Speaker 5 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is NBA.
Can we say superstar? Do you want to be a superstar? Are you former superstar going to be a superstar? Where are you you at in your superstar?

Speaker 5 Nah, superstar.

Speaker 1 All right, Andre Drummond, he is joining us.

Speaker 1 He's got an NFT collection launching on Friday, July 9th on Rarable. Four NFTs,

Speaker 1 a mix of auction items and first come, first serve.

Speaker 1 So go check it out. It will be awesome.

Speaker 1 And also, you get an opportunity to play 2K with you. Are you good at video games?

Speaker 5 I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good.

Speaker 1 I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 Do you remember like a couple years ago when Cardell Jones was playing against a kid? I think it was a kid in the hospital, and he beat him like 95 to 10 in Madden.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I didn't see that, but that's not cool at all.

Speaker 2 So you would take it easy?

Speaker 5 Nah, and I'm definitely going to play it, but when it's time to win, I'm going to win.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. So it's great to have you on.

Speaker 1 Obviously, your season didn't end the way you wanted it to end. How are you doing right now? Are you like, what does that look like right after the season ends?

Speaker 1 Do you get a couple weeks to just hang out and party or are you back already in the gym shooting and getting ready?

Speaker 5 I'm already back in the gym now. It took maybe like two, three weeks off off just to chill, but

Speaker 5 I didn't really

Speaker 5 have that.

Speaker 5 I really, I didn't play that much this year. You know, I sat out for about two months when I was in Cleveland.
So I want to keep my body going.

Speaker 5 So I'm still working on my body and, you know, continuing my work.

Speaker 2 What are you working on right now? Is there something like, I've always wondered that about NBA players who play at a superstar level like yourself.

Speaker 2 If you're already really good at your job, how do you decide what you're going to do different in the offseason?

Speaker 5 It's more so just polishing things, not even adding anything. Like I feel like some guys, you know, add different elements to their game.

Speaker 5 But I think for me, I'm pretty consistent on what my job is and I know what is asked of me.

Speaker 5 So I have a specific regimen that I just do to just continue to keep my body going and, you know, try to get as strong as I can, as fast as I can, as big as I can, you know,

Speaker 5 throughout the year.

Speaker 1 How much are we working on free throw shooting?

Speaker 5 Well, if you have noticed, I'm shooting at least 70 right now.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 5 So I think that's something I've conquered already.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have gotten a lot better. And we've talked to to guys and it's, I mean, what was it earlier in your career? Was it just mental?

Speaker 1 Like, how, what, what was it, what would you able to do to get over that hump and be like, hey, here I am feeling consistent because obviously we see Giannis in the finals right now. He's struggling.

Speaker 1 Like, what would you give a tip for Giannis if you could?

Speaker 5 I know for me personally.

Speaker 5 I know for me personally, I just, it was a mental thing for me.

Speaker 5 You know, I had so many people telling me different ways to shoot it. And, you know, I listen to so many people.

Speaker 5 Mentally, it throws you off when you get to the line because you're like, damn, this guy told me this. Somebody else told me this.

Speaker 5 And, you know, I got to a point where I was like, you know, I got to do what's best for me. So I found a routine and shot it the same way for the entire summer.
And it's been my routine ever since.

Speaker 2 I noticed that you picked up on what we're trying to do, which is like an old school media tip, like get you to say something so that the headline is then Under Drummond has free throw tips for Giannis.

Speaker 2 Yes. And then it looks bad on you.
So let me rephrase that real quick.

Speaker 2 If there's a hypothetical league MVP plays big man position, very strong, takes 11, 12 seconds to shoot each free throw, but they're struggling at the line, how would you specifically tell that person to improve?

Speaker 2 Again, not Giannis.

Speaker 1 Good question. Great question.

Speaker 2 Not Giannis. Not Giannis.

Speaker 5 Sun's in four.

Speaker 1 Sun's in four. There it is.
Okay. I love it.
Perfect.

Speaker 1 I love your ability to rebound.

Speaker 2 I always think that people who are really sick at rebounding don't get as much shine as they should sometimes. When you have a 20-rebound game, is that like in the zone?

Speaker 2 Same as when a shooter gets hot? Would you consider yourself to be in the zone?

Speaker 5 Yeah, when I have a 20-rebound game, this

Speaker 5 active night for me, I mean, I'm going after every rebound. And, you know, it's just one of those feel-good nights when you see that number up there because not too many people are able to do that.

Speaker 2 Can you tell, like, if you're having one of those nights, can you tell where the miss is going to go before the shot even remotely comes close to the basket?

Speaker 5 I mean, I could do that normally, but you know, just like when you're in that zone, it's just like everything goes right.

Speaker 2 You remember like when Dennis Rodman was explaining how he was picking up rebounds, like over here, over there, over there, from what is that, the Michael Jordan documentary?

Speaker 2 Can you tell, tell me one thing as like somebody who's really good at rebounding that the average person who might play pickup basketball might not know about where to expect the ball to go?

Speaker 5 Well, it depends on where the shot is taken. Like if somebody shoots a shot in the left corner, you know, more times they're not going to either overshoot or bounce off the rim towards you.

Speaker 5 So be on the right side of the rim. Or if you're shooting in the middle, just staying in the middle of the rim, you have either way to go.
So it's really just knowing where the ball's coming from.

Speaker 1 I am a big fan of Jim Calhoun. You played for him at UConn his last year.

Speaker 1 Do you have any good Jim Calhoun stories? I just like his press conferences because Jim Calhoun never gave a fuck and he always just told people exactly what was on his mind.

Speaker 1 So was he like that, you know, in practice, games, like in private settings? Was he just like that? Like Jim Calhoun? I'm going to tell you exactly what I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he never held his tongue. I mean, funny story about him.
I remember we were playing Rutgers. He'll probably kill me for telling this story, but

Speaker 5 I think I dribbled a ball close to coast and turned it over, and he calls the timeout. So I'm running to the timeout.
He grabs me by my jersey.

Speaker 5 and throws an uppercut to my stomach, slaps me in the face, says, sit down.

Speaker 1 It works, right?

Speaker 5 You put me in two possessions later. So you ready to play now?

Speaker 1 So wait, so let's let's let's like expand on this because we see it all the time with Izzo.

Speaker 1 Izzo will grab a player and you'll see guys like Draymond Green be like, hey, listen, that's how Izzo coaches. Like that's all love.

Speaker 1 So from like the Twitter, like media perspective, what do people get wrong when they see something like that?

Speaker 1 Like that, that it's totally, we see it and people overreact when it's like the players who play for the guy are like no that's not how it goes so i think i think for me it's just the the relationship you have with that coach i mean i don't think he just does it to anybody but if you have that type of relationship with your coach where he knows how to get the best out of you and what to do to wake you up i don't think it's anything anything wrong with that yeah yeah no i mean i i agree i always kind of like when those things happen because you do see a bunch of like media dorks be like how could he and then you see all of the former players be like i know how he could because we love him and we'll die for him Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to read you a tweet. You can put it through the Andre Drummond translator and tell me what this hypothetical player might have meant by this.

Speaker 2 Lol, remember, kids, control what you can control and let the rest take care of itself. Prayer hands.
That was sent before. Oh, it was sent actually these playoffs before game six of Lakers' Sons.

Speaker 2 So what would that person have meant by that tweet?

Speaker 5 I think it's self-explanatory.

Speaker 5 I mean, control what you can control. I mean, it depends on whatever you're going through, whatever aspect it can be,

Speaker 5 whatever be too high or be too low.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so maybe when you're in the game, be ready to go, but you can also be mad that maybe you're not in the game enough.

Speaker 5 Well, I feel like for anybody, it depends on what they're going through. Yeah, it's not going to be basketball.

Speaker 1 Do you feel um

Speaker 1 soft because an avocado took you down?

Speaker 5 Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 5 It's kind of depressing. Funk ass avocado took me out.

Speaker 1 Explain Explain that story.

Speaker 1 Avocado legitimately

Speaker 1 kept you out of a game.

Speaker 5 Yeah, for like four games. We were in Mexico City.
I went out to dinner with some of my friends.

Speaker 5 And one of my friends who happens to be Spanish, I told him to take me to a restaurant so you can go eat. So we get there and I said, whatever you do, just make sure there's no avocado on my food.

Speaker 5 I said, he translate that to them. He's like, yeah, I got you.
So he tells her, I order my food. That's it.
Before she leaves, I pull her by her shirt. I said, hold on, Marty.
Tell her again.

Speaker 5 No avocados. Cool.
Thumbs up.

Speaker 5 Food comes out. My bowl is green.

Speaker 5 So I got some VJ. So my bowl is green.
So I'm looking at it. I said,

Speaker 5 what's this in my bowl? She's like, oh, no, you're good. No avocado, no avocado.
I said, are you sure? I said, Marty, ask her, please.

Speaker 5 Is there avocado in there? So she says, no. So I'm all right, whatever.
So I'm eating, eating, eating. I think maybe like 10, 15 minutes go by and I'm almost done.
And I'm just having a conversation.

Speaker 5 My throat starts to itch. You know, my body's like starting to itch a little bit.
So I look down at my plate. Somebody has a big ass strip of avocado at the bottom of the ceviche bowl.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I didn't know how bad my allergies were. This is my first time having a bad like reaction to it.
So I didn't know how bad it was going to get. So I'm like, all right, my throat's itching.

Speaker 5 I was like, I'm getting stuffy, whatever. So like, I took like a bendage roll or whatever.
So I go back to the hotel.

Speaker 5 My eyes like itching really bad, like to the point where I can't even keep it open. So I was like, all right, I'm going to sleep.
So I go to bed. I get up the next morning, only one eye opened.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 5 So, so you can imagine, like, yo, like, what the, what the hell's going on?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 I'm like trying to open my eye, like, trying to pry my eye open. It's like glued shut.
So I got it. I went to the bathroom.
I got a warm top, put on my eye.

Speaker 5 So when I finally get to see it, it's just bloodshot red. There's a bunch of yellow mucus coming out of it, like just disgusting.
So I tell my team, I said, hey,

Speaker 5 I don't know what's going on with me, but my eyes aren't opening. So I go see a doctor and gave me some eye drops.
And I played. But I only played with one eye.

Speaker 5 Like, I barely could see out of my left eye. Like, it was like almost shut.
If you watch that game in Mexico City.

Speaker 5 And yeah, after that game, I couldn't play again. My eyes started burning.

Speaker 5 They kept getting crusty.

Speaker 1 So fuck. An avocado injury is a hell of an injury.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 How many rims could you see when you just had one eye working?

Speaker 5 That is a good one.

Speaker 1 You are good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You are.

Speaker 2 When you saw that press conference, it was funny, right? We can all admit that it was a very funny thing to happen because the end of the game was so, I mean, it was spectacular.

Speaker 2 He played a hell of a game, but then he gives that comment, and it's just, that's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 You know, I'm not in the interview with that man. That's what he thought was appropriate to say, so he said it.

Speaker 1 All right, so I have to bring up the night. I know you fixed your free throw shooting, but you did have a night that you missed 23.

Speaker 1 What happened after that? Like, what did you say? Do you go into the locker room after you're like, hey, guys, don't worry, I got this. Like,

Speaker 1 I'm going to shoot some shots after the game. Like, it was just, that was totally random.
Like, what did you, did anyone look at you? Like, I would imagine it's got to be a bad feeling, right?

Speaker 5 I think we won that game, Max. I don't think there was much that was said, but everybody knew in the locker room what each other was thinking.

Speaker 5 Like, you got to figure this shit out at some point in time.

Speaker 5 We can't play like this.

Speaker 1 You got to, eventually, you're going to have to figure out. Because I do remember, too, I think it happened against the Bulls.
I was watching the game. You went double air ball in two free throws.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, but you figured it out. So, we can laugh about this now, right?

Speaker 5 We can laugh about it now. It's not a sensitive subject anymore.

Speaker 1 Yes. At one point it was sensitive.
Now you're good.

Speaker 1 It would be funny if you did an NFT of the double airball, though.

Speaker 5 You know what?

Speaker 1 I might have to do that. You should, actually, because I know I said at the beginning, you're doing,

Speaker 1 what is it, you got four NFTs? Maybe add two more. Airball one, airball two, on the rare double airball free throw trip.

Speaker 2 That one might actually be more expensive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would buy that one. Yeah.
There's definitely a market for it.

Speaker 5 I might have to do that.

Speaker 1 What was it like? So, we're like best friends with Blake Griffin. No big deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was it like playing with him? Like, we're, I mean, we legitimately, like, he's our best friend. No, I love Blake.

Speaker 1 How much do you love him, though? Like, we love him more.

Speaker 5 I think we're on the same scale.

Speaker 2 Really? Do you have his phone number?

Speaker 5 Nah, do you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So what?

Speaker 1 You think he'd pick up a FaceTime? If I called him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Let me see.
All right, let's try. Try and then I'll try.

Speaker 2 Tell him it's his favorite podcasters.

Speaker 1 Or second favorite podcast. Mr.

Speaker 5 Earth first.

Speaker 1 You or me. You go first.

Speaker 5 All right. Let's see.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. Let's see.
Blake.

Speaker 1 Is it ringing?

Speaker 5 You guys probably said for the show, too.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 5 Ironically, he was going to answer for you, right?

Speaker 1 If he answers for me and not you, that's going to be bad.

Speaker 2 He's not hitting the ignore button. He's letting it ring out.

Speaker 5 Come on, Blake.

Speaker 5 Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Imagine being Blake and then getting that face down and then getting the... He's got to know something's up.

Speaker 1 All right, go ahead. Your turn.

Speaker 1 Man, if he answers this, this is going to be bad for you.

Speaker 5 He's going to answer for him. I already know.

Speaker 1 Fuck, I think he's probably doing something cool because he's a cool guy. He's probably on a boat somewhere with his fucking shirt off, looking awesome.

Speaker 1 All right, tell us your best Blake Griffin story, though.

Speaker 5 Best Blake Griffin story. I think going to his comedy, his comedy show, his stand-up.

Speaker 1 Did he make all his teammates go and was like, hey, you guys legally have to come and laugh?

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 like, come here and make them laugh at my jokes. No, he was actually really good.

Speaker 5 I think some of my favorite memories of playing with him is going to that and seeing him in that light because everybody knows Blake is. you know, an aggressive player.

Speaker 5 So to go see him in like a funny setting, comedy setting was amazing for me.

Speaker 1 He is, he is more like we always say, like, there's athlete funny and like there's real funny. Blake Griffin's real funny.
He's very funny. He's a lot of funny.

Speaker 5 Like Like he's hilarious.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Were you ever like, hey, it's hilarious how you never dunk anymore?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 Didn't he dunk for the first time this year in like three years?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then he just he couldn't stop dunking. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Now all of a sudden he's dunking again in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Suspect.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 2 I got a question for you about a very specific skill that you have. You're really good at shooting full court shots.

Speaker 2 You might be the Steph Curry of the full court heave. Is that something that you practice or does that just come naturally?

Speaker 5 No, I I think that's just natural. Me, just it's just strength.
I don't really have to try it, so I just put it up there.

Speaker 2 Do you aim for a bank shot, or do you just aim at the basket itself?

Speaker 5 I aim at the back of the rim.

Speaker 2 If we were to give you, let's say, 100 shots in a gym and you have to take it from the other free throw line, do you think your free throw percentage would be higher on that or your free throw percentage higher in like your second year from the actual free throw line?

Speaker 1 Good question. Thank you.
Really good question. He's doing the math right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He is. He's crunching the math and he's trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 I think it'll be even. Yeah, maybe even.

Speaker 1 What? Hey, why do you wear only one leg sleeve? That bothers me. Does it? Yeah, big time.
It's a stupid look.

Speaker 1 I'm serious. Like, it is.
Like,

Speaker 1 if you're going to do the leggings, do both. I don't want to.
Why?

Speaker 5 I want one leg coat and one.

Speaker 2 Does it matter which one? Does it always have to be the same?

Speaker 5 It could be either one. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 So you do alternate?

Speaker 5 Sometimes. I want one on the right one time and another one on the left side.

Speaker 1 Really? So it just makes no sense? You're just doing it to do it?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's the look.

Speaker 1 It's a bad look. I'm just from one guy to another.
I'm just telling you, change that look.

Speaker 2 What about the shooting sleeve? You ever wear a shooting sleeve?

Speaker 5 Only if my elbow hurts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, does that actually help? I've always wondered that about compression sleeves.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, not really. Only if you fall.

Speaker 2 I mean, well, in that case yeah it does work to like protect you against floorburn or whatever say it again to like protect against floorburn or whatever on your on your elbow right

Speaker 5 no

Speaker 5 it just looks at it's like you guys have never i think some guys work because it's cool i mean some guys work for the compression and some people wear it with the pads and you know if they got bad elbows oh gotcha are you still on a beer a day diet uh no but i just had one a minute ago though okay so wait what was the beer a day diet

Speaker 5 uh

Speaker 5 you know something i wanted to try out I wanted to cut out carbs for a little bit, and that's what I came up with. So

Speaker 1 you just did one beer every day, no matter what?

Speaker 1 Yep. But that's a carb.
So you wanted to cut out carbs, but then...

Speaker 1 Bad carbs. Got it.
That's actually

Speaker 2 beer is good carbs.

Speaker 1 Bad carbs. Yes.
Okay. That actually, are you,

Speaker 1 you should be a science. You should be a nutritionist.
Thank you, man. That's why I smell.

Speaker 1 Imagine just sitting down and being like, all right, so here's what we're going to do. No more pizza, but you're going to just drink beer every day.
Yeah, what was. was every day?

Speaker 2 What was the earliest beer you ever had during the beer day diet? That's a good question. And you ever have breakfast beer? Do burial, pour it right into the cornflakes?

Speaker 5 9 a.m.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 If you have a beer for breakfast, the rest of your day, it just flies right by.

Speaker 5 Why don't you tell me about this?

Speaker 2 Tell us what's going through your mind right now. Are you like, wow, these guys are wildly disrespectful?

Speaker 1 No, not at all. It's just a different interview.

Speaker 5 Yeah, a lot. Very different.
I wasn't not expecting this. I came in here blind.

Speaker 1 Okay, now that's your guy Mike's fault. He should have known.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he didn't do a good job of telling me what was going on, but I'm enjoying myself.

Speaker 1 He literally watched us go to Moripovich and like spit water everywhere and do like suck it, Triple H suck it, like when he was a producer there. So that is his fault.

Speaker 5 Well, I'm enjoying myself.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, good.

Speaker 1 That's all we care about.

Speaker 2 Like guys talking, one guy talking to another, like, okay, we're done with all the weird, hard questions and stuff. So, where are you going to play next year?

Speaker 1 Name five of your favorite cities in the NBA:

Speaker 5 Shanghai, China.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Your career's going that bad.

Speaker 1 What would you say if you went to Shanghai, China to play for the Sharks and then Frank Vogel got hired there, and he's like, you're back to 15 minutes again?

Speaker 1 100 Drummond has left the interview. He just left the screen.

Speaker 1 That would actually be very funny, just a prank. He's like, hey, you didn't think I'd be here, huh? Like, guess what? We're not going to be using you.

Speaker 2 How about we just let's just say the names of just random cities in the United States, and you just give us your reaction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Charlotte.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was a nod. Utah.

Speaker 1 Oh, another. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 New York City, the big apple.

Speaker 1 Ooh, that was an emphatic. That was

Speaker 1 Dallas.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, yeah, Luca.

Speaker 1 You like Luca? Oh, two thumbs up. Two thumbs up on Luca.

Speaker 2 Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Clippers. Oh, yeah.
Okay. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2 No disavow. Yeah.
He's weighing it out with his hands.

Speaker 1 Portland.

Speaker 1 Hmm. Dame's not there, though.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to say yes to everything if you just said yes to Cleveland. Detroit.
That was good.

Speaker 2 Detroit's your favorite. He's coming home.

Speaker 1 Your agent must love you.

Speaker 2 Your agent must be like, this guy gets it. Unlike the hockey players who will be like, yeah, I've already told my agent I'm going to re-sign here.
I don't care about money, so just get the deal done.

Speaker 2 You're like, anywhere is fine.

Speaker 1 Except a dameless Portland. You're in for everything.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
So we're going to actually twist that around and make that the quote. Andre Drummond says he will not be going to Portland if Damian Lillard gets traded.

Speaker 1 Make sure to listen to quotes too. Yeah, it won't be a big time headline.

Speaker 2 You know, it would be huge actually for us if you could just tweet out. Just tweet out the eyeball emoji tomorrow.
You don't have to tweet anything else, just the eyeball emoji.

Speaker 2 Isn't that funny how you can tweet like literally anything, and there will be six different articles that will come out analyzing what your tweet can mean?

Speaker 5 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 We did that with Blake when, I don't know, like probably like three or four years ago. He just tweeted out the eyeball emoji.

Speaker 1 Then the next day the show came out and he, we were like at the moment where it's like, hey, just tweet out the eyeball emoji. And everyone freaked out because NBA Twitter's weird.

Speaker 1 What do you think about like

Speaker 1 NBA Twitter and the obsession with all the storylines?

Speaker 1 Do you think it's weird? Do you think it's like lame?

Speaker 5 I think it's funny. You know, like the other day, like the viral thing that's going on now about how I said, tell y'all coach, play me.
You want to see me play better. Yeah.
That, I mean, it's funny.

Speaker 5 When I did that comment, I'm like, this is going to stir up so much trouble. I called Mike.
I said, look what I just did. He's like, all right, well, this is good.

Speaker 1 I said, I know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I was like, I know. I have people's attention.
Now I said, I was capitalizing on this. I kept going.
So I went to Twitter, started a rant there.

Speaker 5 So then I was like, all right, well, just while I got your attention, I'm dropping an NFT on Friday. I'll go check that out.
And, you know, the whole narrative changed.

Speaker 1 I love it. That's the way to do it.
And you also did

Speaker 1 when Skip Bayless said Kareem Abdul Drummond, you retweeted that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hey, Merch, Merch coming coming soon.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 I might buy one of those.

Speaker 2 Do you like you like that nickname better, or do you like being called the Big Penguin?

Speaker 2 What? You know that the Big Penguin is your nickname.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I've heard that.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 5 I guess people found out my favorite animal was the penguin and put dick in front of it.

Speaker 1 Wait, that's...

Speaker 1 You pretended like, what? Why would that ever happen? Your favorite animal is penguin?

Speaker 5 It is.

Speaker 1 So that's...

Speaker 1 That's why.

Speaker 2 It should also be the highest compliment, right? If you love penguins, I don't think you love penguins as much as you think that you do.

Speaker 1 It sounds like you're kind of a fraud penguin fan.

Speaker 2 Did you cry when the gay penguins got married in New York?

Speaker 5 I don't think I should answer that question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I mean, it was a beautiful moment. It was wonderful.
It was beautiful.

Speaker 2 That also might have been in Pawnee, Indiana on Parks and Rec now that I think about it. But you, you actually love, what's your favorite thing about a penguin?

Speaker 5 I just like them. I have kids.
They watch Happy Feet.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I still don't think you're a big penguin fan.

Speaker 5 That's a personal choice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, but I'm looking at you right now, and I'm like, this guy, you wouldn't even,

Speaker 1 what's the difference? Penguins is king penguin? Emperor penguin? Emperor penguin.

Speaker 2 Pittsburgh penguin. Yep.
That's about it. Those are the two kinds.
That's all we got.

Speaker 1 Oh, Youngstown State Penguins. That's right.
Pete, right? Pete the Penguin. Penguin.

Speaker 2 Youngstown State.

Speaker 2 I'm looking at a picture. It looks like at one time you were a giant penguin fan.
I'm seeing a picture here of you with your arms around about a dozen penguins. You've got penguin socks on.

Speaker 2 But it sounds like you've kind of had a falling out.

Speaker 2 A thawing out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's a good one. Thawing out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you like that?

Speaker 1 If you love penguins so much, you wouldn't take a private jet, right? Because that's bad for global warming.

Speaker 5 No, I'm taking that plane.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So you don't like penguins? Got it.
Got it. Got it.
Got it. Got it.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Andre, the NFTs, like I said, coming out July 9th,

Speaker 1 four NFTs, a mix of auction items and first come, first serve.

Speaker 1 So go check it out.

Speaker 1 And any questions for us? I mean, this has been great. We appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You liked this that much? Fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe do it in person when you come out here to talk with the Nets.

Speaker 5 I almost shook my head for that, too. You almost got me.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks, man.
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 Cheers, you guys. Thank you.

Speaker 1 It's good to meet you, you, man. See ya.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we're going to finish up with Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 1 Just a shout out, by the way, to Jake and Youngstown Bob and PMT Memes.

Speaker 1 The backup crew that might actually have a full-time job. I don't know.
Well, no, they have full-time job.

Speaker 2 Do you know who Wally Pip is, big cat? Yeah. I'm just asking if you do.

Speaker 1 Do you know who Wes Walker is? Yeah, I do. Yeah.
I do know who Wes Walker is. Exactly.
So

Speaker 1 you you guys have been great this week. We appreciate it.
All the AWLs appreciate it. So follow PMT memes.
Jake, what's your Twitter account again? You didn't shout it out.

Speaker 2 Jay Lasofsky25. Good luck spelling it.

Speaker 1 There we go. All right.
So I'll just tweet your Twitter out again. And then Youngstown Bob, you all know him.
He's fucking just eats pussy from sea to shining sea.

Speaker 2 The mustache looks great, by the way. All right.

Speaker 1 So PMT Memes, you want to start? I'm going first. Oh,

Speaker 1 this might be your Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 You have to go first. Jake, why don't you start? All right, I'll go first.

Speaker 2 As I mentioned last show, I moved last week. So today I did my first official commute from my new city.
And for everyone living in the northeast, it's tropical storming here. Yep.
Took a step outside.

Speaker 2 I just moved.

Speaker 1 I live on the water, not to brag. And that is a sick brag.
I had to walk along this boardwalk thing and just the wind plus the storm.

Speaker 2 I came in seven hours ago. My socks are still absolutely soaked.

Speaker 1 Dude, I have extra socks. You want some? Yeah.
The pile. Yeah.
I have extra socks. I'll grab some.
All right.

Speaker 1 I got like 40 pairs of socks. I'm in.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Can I give you a little piece of advice moving into a new place? Don't take an Uber when you could take public transportation for at least the first month.

Speaker 2 Because if you do it, you're not going to want to go back. You'll just find any excuse to be like, oh, I guess it's too late for me to take the train.
Might as well hop into a cab.

Speaker 2 And then you just waste all your money on that.

Speaker 1 You, though, that was a great Fire fest, though, because you're basically like, it sucks that I now am like a seafaring, you know, I live on the beach.

Speaker 2 I mean, I honestly was better off just swimming across the Hudson.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how wet I got. Oh, man.
All right.

Speaker 1 Young son Bob.

Speaker 1 Were you had too much pussy this week? Is that what your neck hurt? You're drowning. You got sex addiction? Are you addicted to sex?

Speaker 4 All right. So last week, the New York City Twitter account just threw a shot at Cleveland.
They said a gloomy day in New York City is still better than a sunny day in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 And just now there's a tropical storm here and I've got all my friends just like sending me tweets of like the flooded subways.

Speaker 2 What's the weather in Cleveland like?

Speaker 1 It was beautiful last week.

Speaker 4 I was literally I read the tweet when I was at a outside bar on the lake with a bucket of beer in front of me live music and I was torn about it. But I love New York City.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say but let's try to watch college football on a Saturday in Cleveland. It's tough.

Speaker 2 It's not the same. You can't go to a bar that has every single television.

Speaker 1 Oh, I have the tweet, actually. New York City.
This is from Youngstown, Bob. New York City bars are such a fun place to watch college football.
Fans from every school.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's just probably wasted at Bar Coastal.

Speaker 1 100% would have. And everyone on the production side just retweets it every Saturday.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Liam is the first one that does it.

Speaker 1 It's a great tweet. You know that other cities have that, right? Oh, yeah, I know.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And also New York City. It can be annoying as fuck to be in a bar

Speaker 2 filled with all sorts of college football.

Speaker 1 And I also would argue that New York City has not the best college football Saturday scene like there aren't a lot like there are but they're not

Speaker 2 we got we got best bourbon best barbecue and best college football in America New York City um all right uh memes you ready I'm up yeah go for it yeah is that okay or you want to pass again go for it memes here we go memes uh my fire fire fest is vin diesel memes oh i can't stop saying family and i was late on the trend.

Speaker 1 Oh, so has it passed?

Speaker 2 Because I'm still not entirely sure what the family memes. I've seen you tweet out a few of them.
But if you're like, once I start using them, I got in line. That's when you know.

Speaker 1 This is like a huge deal for you because you are the memes guy. We call you memes,

Speaker 1 which, by the way, I don't, I don't

Speaker 1 Connor.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got it. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 I was like, do I know you're because, you know, once you get a nickname, it just is that nickname. So you're memes.
Yeah, I stopped telling people my actual name. Yeah, just go with memes.

Speaker 1 Memes is way better.

Speaker 1 But this is a big deal because this is like you got to be at the start of every meme yeah so how are you i think what you do at that point is you just power through it and tweet so many of them people will be like hey memes is the vin diesel guy yeah i tweeted out like three and then people were you could tell they were like stop oh it's too much how can you tell if a meme is hot enough for you to start using uh you got to see it's starting to trend but if it's too trendy

Speaker 2 if there's like five tweets that have a hundred thousand likes you probably miss a both Certain people from ESPN have tweeted it, and you're like, uh, yeah, and then they're like, Thanos, called Endgame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bleacher Report tweets it with a fucking skull emoji, like, it's over. You're like, it's done.

Speaker 2 Okay, wait, is it now?

Speaker 1 That's usually when me and PFT pick it up. Yes.

Speaker 2 I was saying, like, when we do it, then it's absolutely over.

Speaker 1 That's actually when it's the resurgence.

Speaker 1 You get the resurgence of it.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, like, is it, is it cool now to make a meme of like a player turning into Patrick Starr after they do a cool dunk?

Speaker 2 Or is that, has enough time passed since Bleacher Report tweeted that out?

Speaker 2 no you can bring it back you can bring that we should could you could you work on that for us i could try i've also got i've got another do you do memes on request yeah yeah i've actually asked him to beef up my coffee memes okay so for sunday for england italy i would like to have uh the uh the queen what's her name elizabeth ii yeah getting out of the limousine at the toll booth in godfather and then just getting shot up by some italians oh that's pretty good all right i'll work on that also maybe can you put a little cannoli on the top of the mini car that brings out the ball?

Speaker 1 Done. All right, beautiful.
Okay. That car is so cool.
I fucking love that car.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they do that with rugby, too. The team gets on the field and then they drive the ball out right to the guy that's about to kick it off.

Speaker 1 So cool. Fucking love it.
So cute.

Speaker 1 Good job, memes. Your debut on Pardon My Take.
Who would have thought you'd be here, right? Is it a little mind-blowing? Look at us. Yeah, it's really mind-blowing meme right now.

Speaker 1 He spent two years tweeting at us and doing a great job. It was one year.
One year? There you go. I just love it.

Speaker 2 I love it. You think in memes.
You have a beautiful mind. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right, PFT.

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest of the week is that Kurt Warner has a movie coming out, and I'm going to have to watch it. And it looks terrible.
But I'm going to have to watch it because

Speaker 2 it uses officially licensed NFL products in it and logos.

Speaker 2 They have the rights, much like in Draft Day, which would have been maybe the worst movie ever made if it didn't have official team logos in it. But since it did, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have to watch the Kurt Warner Warner story. And it looks like the corniest movie ever.
It looks like if

Speaker 1 it's got the corniest life ever.

Speaker 2 If Air Budd was a person, that's what this movie would be.

Speaker 1 Yes. The other thing

Speaker 1 that I love about football movies, and you saw it in some of the still pictures that they posted out there, is like the actors they hire that are big, but they're not like football players.

Speaker 1 They're just big dudes. Like, I saw a guy behind him, and you're like, that guy doesn't look like he lifts weight.
He's just, he's just fat.

Speaker 1 So they just throw big dudes on the sideline. Like, this is a football team.

Speaker 2 I honestly think that we could get into movies like that as extras, just on the sidelines. You've got the frame for being a linebacker.
Yeah. I've got the frame for like a shitty kicker.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Why haven't we gotten that call? Scatback? Scat back? Yeah, like a Danny Woodhead type. Yes.
Yeah, I just, I'm confused why we haven't gotten that call yet.

Speaker 2 But I'm going to have to watch it because it's a movie. It's about football.
And Randy Quaid's brother as Dick Vermeal is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 So good.

Speaker 2 So good. It's hilarious.
Like the trailer, everyone that I know that's seen it has looked around and been like, is this real? Or is it are they doing like a sketch comedy? It's going to be great.

Speaker 2 It's going to be amazing. I'm ready to watch it.

Speaker 1 All right, my Firefest. I'll wrap up.

Speaker 1 So I went on vacation. I realized something this week that my life has completely peaked.
It's over. But the small victories are basically all I have left.
And it happened when I went on vacation.

Speaker 1 I took my family to Eastern Long Island. Um, and what?

Speaker 2 No, in Eastern Long Island, in Eastern Long Island.

Speaker 1 That's actually just a way to say the Hamptons, but not be a fucking douchebag about it.

Speaker 1 I took them to the eastern point of Long Island, and packing a car with two little kids and like doing the Tetris move to get the whole car full, I've never felt, I earned my dad pinstripes.

Speaker 1 Like, that was the official moment where I was like, yeah, I'm a dad because it was the hardest thing I've ever done. And it was like, I wasted not a single inch, And it felt great.

Speaker 1 I'm still like glowing off of that.

Speaker 2 There's no better form of birth control than going through the airport as somebody without children and then watching people with kids trying to get their kids to just do the most basic of things to ensure that they don't lose the flight.

Speaker 2 I see that. I'm like,

Speaker 2 I don't think I ever want a child.

Speaker 1 I also didn't use PEDs because I went. online and I found the racks that you put on top of your car where you can just load it up.

Speaker 1 I bought one and I started to load it up and I was like, nah, you know what? Fuck this.

Speaker 2 I can get everything in this fucking car. Yeah, I thought you were going to say, like, go buy a bunch of Benadryl, and then the kids are quiet.

Speaker 1 No, that, no, that may be for the next one. Yeah.
That absolutely will happen for the next one.

Speaker 2 But good for you. That's that's a big feather in your head.

Speaker 1 I'm glowing from it. It's, it's sad.
It's pathetic. But let me have my moment.
I think other dads who listen to this show will know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 That when you really feel like a provider. Yeah, the man of the house when you're like, all right, I got this car packed.
Everyone's in here.

Speaker 1 Let's hope we don't crash. But if we do crash, let's just hope I die.
So I don't have to deal with like picking up all my shit on the highway.

Speaker 2 Right. So back in the day, it was like a caveman that could go out and kill a Brontosaurus and have dinner for the next three years for his family.
That's the mark of a man. You put two car seats in.

Speaker 1 Two car seats and a shitload of stuff. So much fucking.
You wouldn't believe how much shit comes with kids.

Speaker 2 What do you listen to on road trips with kids?

Speaker 1 I was actually just listening to The Grateful Dead. I just, I put on a whole show and I didn't care.
Okay. Yeah, I wasn't.
That's not.

Speaker 1 We're never going to change that.

Speaker 2 Are you doing the trolls soundtrack?

Speaker 1 No, no. Listen.
The playing kids' music in the car is not going to happen.

Speaker 2 The trolls soundtrack is not going to happen.

Speaker 1 I'm not. No.
Anake Kendrick.

Speaker 2 It's not going to happen. Singing Get Back Up Again is that song.

Speaker 1 The song of the summer. The cup song is on that? No, that's it.
Anna Kendrick.

Speaker 2 That's the old. That's like what, Pitch Perfect? Yeah.
That's When I'm Gone.

Speaker 1 Dad, I might play. This might play Pitch Perfect.

Speaker 2 You will listen to the Troll song and you'll fall in love with it. No.
Yep. Guaranteed.

Speaker 1 Don't knock it till you've heard it. No.
All right. Let's do numbers.
Send everyone off.

Speaker 1 I think the regular crew's back. You guys have been great.
Thank you again. Give me an eight.
Because the office is closed this week. Did we mention that?

Speaker 2 Office closed. What time is it?

Speaker 1 They were well within their rights.

Speaker 2 It's 12:16 a.m., right?

Speaker 1 12:16 a.m., the office is closed, but we're here.

Speaker 2 Pick a number, memes.

Speaker 1 32.

Speaker 2 32 for memes.

Speaker 1 Jake?

Speaker 1 42.

Speaker 2 Bob? I was going to do 42. What the fuck? Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 You could double up, Jackie Robinson, guys. I'll do 52.

Speaker 2 Oh, why do you hate Jackie?

Speaker 1 52. Mariano.
Mariano, okay. Wasn't he a murderer? No.
No. Rico told me that.
Really? A murderer? Rico said that. I don't know.
I'll get all my information from Rico.

Speaker 2 Are you thinking about Ugeth Rabina?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Rico definitely has told me that Mario Rivera is a murderer.
I mean, he said a lot of things. He said a lot of things.
Alleged, alleged.

Speaker 1 Not the part that Rico told me, but the part that he's a murderer. Okay.
That's alleged.

Speaker 1 What's your number? 8. 8.52.
42. 32.
Memes. If you get this, I will.
So right now you're on an internship.

Speaker 1 If you get 32 on your first try, I will do everything I can to get you hired tomorrow, full-time. So that's just on there.
It's on there.

Speaker 1 I seriously will. I will walk into Erica's office on Monday and be like, we got to hire this guy.
He got 32. Walk in tomorrow to her office.

Speaker 1 Not saying you won't get a job anyway because you've been doing a great job, but I'm saying we'll make it happen right away. Are you ready for this? It's a destiny meme.
99. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now I'm rooting for you, memes.

Speaker 2 Come on. 32.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 69.

Speaker 1 Billy. Billy.
69.

Speaker 2 Get it?

Speaker 1 All right, memes. We'll still try to get you a job.

Speaker 2 Memes, do you have a fun fact? A fun fact. Yeah, this is usually when Billy gives a fun fact.

Speaker 1 Just do it in in memes form.

Speaker 1 Alligators are ornery because of their medulla goddess. Okay, yeah, that's from Waterboy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good meme. Good reference.
Love you guys. Help a pair of tits while I watch Waterboy in the theaters.

Speaker 2 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Bonk.

Speaker 1 on my day to follow you shining.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've been coming for your love, dream, love up, dream, love me.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've been coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Take a knee.

Speaker 1 Needless to see

Speaker 1 all the city

Speaker 1 spur means I'm a little wait.

Speaker 1 Slowly learn the eyes I can say unto me

Speaker 1 I used to be to be safe, it's hard, to be safe, it's hard, to be safe, inside.

Speaker 1 I used to be to be safe and signal.

Speaker 1 Take up me. I'll be

Speaker 1 gone.

Speaker 1 Take my job.

Speaker 1 Just a flavor for reason.

Speaker 1 You all think I've got to remember. Be shy and away.

Speaker 1 I'll come to you anyway.

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Speaker 2 Take on me.