Jay Cutler, Suns In 4 Guy, Kevin Durant Legacy Game, And The Boy Will Compton FAQ's

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Speaker 3 Go check out the new New Amsterdam vodka summer co-branded bottle Bartle co-branded Weibel check it out right now it's out there today is Wednesday June 16th and in my humble opinion as a sports analyst I am deeming Kevin Durant's legacy as a very good basketball player cemented that's big of you but what happens big cat if they lose the next two games at that point it this could be a legacy series Yeah, so that's the beauty of the legacy game.

Speaker 3 It just keeps going. So it's a rollover minute.
We got legacy games next game.

Speaker 6 I think this is an indictment of the Gen Z culture. Everything is in 15-second sound bites.
You rush to judge everything. This was never a legacy game.

Speaker 6 This has always been a legacy series going up against Giannis.

Speaker 3 I would say it's a legacy playoffs.

Speaker 6 It's a legacy year for KD because

Speaker 6 he's coming back from an injury.

Speaker 6 He's got, we were told at the start of the season, Big Cat, we were told on last week's part part of my take by ourselves that the Nets would not lose another playoff game.

Speaker 6 So really, this is a legacy year for him. It's really, it's championship robust.

Speaker 3 I actually think now that I'm saying it out loud, I think, I think it is a legacy decade.

Speaker 3 Because think about it, the first decade in the pros, he came in before 2010, but that 2010 to 2020 or 2019, however you do decades, I don't know how to do decades,

Speaker 3 that was him cementing himself as, okay, you're a top 50 player of all time.

Speaker 6 Now, you know, a top 25 player of all time now this decade sky's the limit this is where his legacy is made and it started tonight my favorite fun thing to do with being dishonest with stats is to play the decade game which is to say like now kevin durant has scored 30 points in a game in three separate decades yes and it makes it sound like he's 60 years old yes

Speaker 6 really it's just like 11 or 12 years is he's probably the greatest player if you look at the totality of it he probably averages out to be the best player in three separate decades in certain statistical categories.

Speaker 6 But yeah, shout out, KD.

Speaker 3 I have a quote for you. Okay.
You ready for this?

Speaker 3 You can tell me who wrote this.

Speaker 3 If you're waiting for the KD game, it ain't happening. Durant has never imposed his will ever.
LeBron, Steph, and Russ can impose their will on a team. There's also nothing

Speaker 3 quotes Brooklyn about his game.

Speaker 7 Hmm.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go with Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 he's sick.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Nothing. What is what's what? Nothing Brooklyn about his game.

Speaker 6 Nothing Brooklyn about it. What is a Brooklyn?

Speaker 6 Who's got who do you think is the most Brooklyn NBA player? I would actually say it's probably like a hipster like Joe West.

Speaker 3 Oh, man.

Speaker 6 This is a very Brooklyn game on Joe Westbrook.

Speaker 3 Listen, all I'm going to say is thank God Joe West is a recurring guest, or Joe Harris is a goal. You just said Joe West.
Or Joe West. Joe Harris is a recurring guest.

Speaker 3 Otherwise, I'd be forced to say he forgot how to shoot a basketball.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Joe Harris tonight.

Speaker 3 He's playing like Joe West.

Speaker 6 He absorbed James Harden's game seven energy tonight. This was, you know what? Instead of talking about James Harden, who also had a legacy game tonight, too.
He's stunk.

Speaker 3 I hope he's injured because he had five points.

Speaker 6 He proved that he could go out there and play while he was injured.

Speaker 6 Joe Harris, we need to ask, is Joe Harris healthy? Yeah. Because this was a decidedly unjoe Harris-like performance.

Speaker 3 I actually think Hardin did, like, him being out there actually helped because he did have a bunch of assists and he played well like defensively when they needed him to.

Speaker 3 He obviously can't shoot right now. Like he had no legs in his shot.

Speaker 3 I just would like to

Speaker 3 pretend that he's fully healthy so that because there's nothing more fun than when James Harden no-shows a playoff game. So let's just,

Speaker 3 you know, in 10 years, we can look back and be like, wait, he went one for 10 and 0 for 8 from three point? What a bum.

Speaker 6 We'll totally forget the context of this game entirely. Very hard.
In fact, he had like a pulled hamstring.

Speaker 6 And you could actually see the lack of explosiveness when he he was trying to jump into fouls.

Speaker 6 He didn't have the same like lateral movement where he could like jump four feet to the side, hit somebody, and then shoot a shot.

Speaker 6 It actually surprisingly affected his game that way, but he wasn't comfortable. He was missing everything short.
It was also, legacy-wise, a Jeff Green game. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Because this Jeff Green cemented his legacy as being a guy that always shows up every single year in the playoffs for a different team and has one good game.

Speaker 3 Seven for eight from three. He was awesome.
The only three he missed was he was just too open, which can happen. He started seven for seven from three.

Speaker 3 But let's talk about Durant real quick because the Durant three. So Durant ends up with 49, 17, and 10.

Speaker 3 If you don't think that that is just an insane, like, put the team on my back, they need every point, every rebound, every assist from me. It was incredible.

Speaker 3 And that shot, that three that he made to basically win the game and that look he gave where he was like, ooh, I am so fucking good at basketball. That has to to be an all-time feeling.

Speaker 3 Like, you could see it in his face. He said visibly, ooh, I am so fucking good at basketball.

Speaker 6 Was that on the play where James Harden took the shot clock down to like two seconds and then passed to Durant?

Speaker 6 James Harden, he was just, James Harden, when he saw the shot clock and he did the mental math and said, he's like, I think my hamstring is 25 seconds away from feeling okay.

Speaker 6 Let's see if I can get in shape by the end of this one possession. It didn't happen.
Put Durant in the shitter with a bad pass. And then Durant kind of off balance, hit it.

Speaker 6 And it's like, there's nothing that you can do at that point unless maybe your Mike Budden holds your

Speaker 6 button. Just say Buds.

Speaker 3 Michael. Coach Buds.

Speaker 6 Sorry, he goes by Michael Buds. Coach Buds.

Speaker 6 Who got thoroughly out-coached by whoever happens to be coaching the Nets tonight?

Speaker 6 I don't know if it's Steve Nash tonight or not, but at some point when Kevin Durant is going off, you have to try something different.

Speaker 6 I don't know if you try something that you think is going to work or not, but nothing is going to work any less than what you've been doing for the entire game.

Speaker 6 I think CJ said, CJ McCall, did he say that? Like, put Giannis on him for a second, see what happens.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, it's when he's like that, though, he, I mean,

Speaker 3 you know it. Kevin Durant, when he's on fire and he wants to do what he did tonight, he basically has like an unstoppable game because he's so fucking tall.
He elevates above everyone.

Speaker 3 He can get his shot off at any point. Like, it's just, it was a joy to watch.

Speaker 6 Imagine how tall he'd be if he could grow hair. Yeah.
Another inch and a half.

Speaker 3 Or if he just was honest about, or or if he stood up straight.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he had better posture.

Speaker 3 Yeah, right. The Slim Reaper is back.
We need to bring the Slim Reaper.

Speaker 6 I was actually going to say, I think tonight

Speaker 6 I only saw Easy Money Sniper references. I have not seen a Servant reference.
I think the Servant's dead. Servant is dead.
They killed the Servant.

Speaker 3 The Slim Reaper is back. That was a Slim Reaper.

Speaker 3 Tarantula, I'm cool with that. It did feel, though, I mean, like...
The Nets needed to win this game.

Speaker 3 I know that sounds crazy because now they're up 3-2, but when they came all the way back and they were up with like three or four minutes left by a point or two, it felt like, all right, the Nets win this game.

Speaker 3 It's most likely going seven because I don't know. I mean, maybe Durant can do this again in game six on the road, I guess.

Speaker 6 Well, that's the thing. It's like it took this type of performance to win this game, and they sucked in the first quarter.
They were really, really bad. And for a lot of the first half.

Speaker 6 So I don't know. Well, yeah, Magic Johnson will point out to you that games three and five, I think he's the first person I ever heard say that, are the most important games in a seven-game series.

Speaker 6 And they are up three to two, so they have a couple chances to close it out. Like, I'm not, as a Nets fan, long time, who definitely did not call them frauds tonight several times,

Speaker 6 I am concerned. I'm concerned about the Nets' ability to close it out.

Speaker 3 I feel bad for Bruce Brown. We're a Bruce Brown podcast.

Speaker 3 He got pulled pretty quickly in the start of the game. I was like, oh, shit, he can't.
We need someone else. And Jeff Green saved him.
And,

Speaker 3 you know, if you're Milwaukee, obviously this game was, you should have won this game. Like, you should have found a way to win this game, especially when you were up and you felt like you could.

Speaker 3 We said it out loud. They were, the Nets were down, I think, 20 points at some point in the second quarter.

Speaker 3 And I was like, if they can be down 10 halfway through the third, they will like have a very legitimate shot at winning this game. And that's exactly what they did.

Speaker 3 They like chipped away, chipped away, chipped away. And it was right there in the third quarter.
And then Kevin Durant was able to do what he does. And it's just awesome.
It was just an awesome game.

Speaker 3 We stay here late, and sometimes it sucks. Tonight was one of those nights where it was awesome because it was like this game was fully worth it.
That was great theater and Kevin Durant's legacy.

Speaker 6 It was life-affirming basketball. We need to give a little bit of credit to maybe an unheralded hero on the Nets, and that's the whammy guy underneath the basket.
Yeah. The whammy.

Speaker 6 The old guy who put the whammy on anyone that was shooting a foul shot. And if the kids out there don't know what the whammy is, the whammy is

Speaker 6 a force. You just, you hold your hands out and then you start wiggling your fingers.
You put a curse on the other guy. The whammy's undefeated, especially if it's an old person doing it.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think, by the way, Giannis, who he wasn't like bad tonight.
He had 34 and he shot well. And, you know, like, I do think the Bucs are going to win game six.
I think it's going to go seven.

Speaker 3 I think Giannis at this point should try free throws one-handed or go fast pitch. The minute he gets the ball, just throw it up there.

Speaker 6 So we were timing him, and towards the end of the game, I think he got to the line three times. And two of those three times he was over the 10 second limit.
One of the times was 11 and a half.

Speaker 6 What do you think the grace period is? Because you can't blow the whistle as they're in the act of shooting, right? Although I guess

Speaker 3 they did that to him.

Speaker 6 You should be able to because it's a 10 second rule. It's not a 10.7 second and if Giannis is shooting the ball then you call the violation.
It's a 10 second rule. Right.

Speaker 6 He's a serial violator of the 10 second.

Speaker 6 I'm going to be using stopwatch every time he's on the line. I'm just going to keep stats.
How often does he cheat at the foul line?

Speaker 3 I like it. All right, other games.
Let's talk about them real quick. Kawhi is incredible.
Paul George, playoff P has shown up. That series goes to 2-2.
Did you see that Kawhi dunk?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was insane. Kawhi's.

Speaker 3 I think it's because he never feels like he's moving super fast. We talked about that, I think, last week.
But

Speaker 3 his arms are so long and his hands are so big. He was so far from the hoop when he dunked that.
But he just can reach over everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. no, that dunk was, it's surprising when you see Kawhi do it because he doesn't show any emotion ever.

Speaker 6 So anytime he acts with aggression on a basketball court, you're like, holy shit, where'd that come from? It was violent, but it was sweet. It was like, it was violent poetry.

Speaker 3 But it wasn't like the cool factor of that dunk was when you usually see a poster like a big dunk, it's someone, you know, it's a nice pass and a guy getting an open look and then a help defender moving over.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? Like, and it's a wind up and it's a nice, like, little sprint head start.

Speaker 6 start kawaii just he just fucking yammed on that guy you know what the difference is between a good no it wasn't gobert between a good dunk and a great dunk differences and this is why lebron james is not a great dunker in my opinion you have to hang on to the rim for just like a split second you got to make the rim move you have to make it seem like the rim might come off yeah and so when when uh lebron does his like you know he'll go he'll do like the rocking the cradle and then go over his head do like a 180 dunk and it yeah sure i guess in theory it's something i couldn't do maybe if i practiced for a while i could but he doesn't even like grab the rim at all.

Speaker 6 He just like he barely touches the rim. Sometimes he acts like the rim is like a hot oven rack, he just like taps it and pulls his hand away.

Speaker 6 Kawhi grabbed it and pulled it down for a second, and that makes all the difference.

Speaker 3 It's the snapback sound, the spread is incredible. Yeah, what did you think, uh, Jake, your guy, uh, your guy's dad,

Speaker 3 I and Eagle, what was the hold on, I'm gonna pull up the dunk.

Speaker 8 I thought it's a kohli albert. It was a kohlite.
It was

Speaker 8 Major Kawhi Lights!

Speaker 3 A Kawhi Light? It's amazing. A Kawhi Light? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I didn't mind it, honestly.

Speaker 3 Kawhi Light? It's amazing. Okay.
You think that was worth it? It was amazing? Yeah. Okay.
Great. No, I wanted your take on it.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Major Kawhi Light.

Speaker 6 The only problem I had with that dunk is it happened in the flow of play, and there wasn't another whistle for about two minutes of game time after that.

Speaker 6 And I kept waiting to see the replay of it because I was like, I think I just saw one of of the best dunks of all time, but I can't be sure. And it took so long to get through the replay.

Speaker 6 There should be a timeout that exists. The television overlord should be able to like buzz one of the referees and force them to make a bullshit call or like a media timeout.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it should be a highlight timeout, a Kawhi Light timeout in case anything like that happens. Because I didn't think, imagine, imagine, big cat.

Speaker 6 What if something even crazier than that had happened right after? That dunk would have been lost to the ages. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, Kawhi Light.

Speaker 6 Sorry, Kawhi Light.

Speaker 3 That was. oh man, it was awesome.
All right. Other series.

Speaker 3 I like,

Speaker 3 I love watching Joel Embiid play. I don't like that Joel Embiid

Speaker 3 feels like he's always going to die on the court because he's out of gas.

Speaker 3 That was tough. And I know he's injured as well, but that felt like a very winnable game for the Sixers.

Speaker 9 He's also a bit of a flop artist, too. So there's an element of like,

Speaker 3 so yeah, he has a floor routine.

Speaker 9 He falls down.

Speaker 3 The Olympics,

Speaker 3 he's got a nice floor routine. But that felt like a very winnable game.
And I think the Sixers will kill them tonight, which I know

Speaker 3 I felt,

Speaker 3 Hank, I know what you've been going through. Philadelphia Twitter,

Speaker 3 I feared for my life. It's crazy.
All because I said they were very, very good, and then they all said I jinxed them.

Speaker 3 But I do think they're going to win tonight.

Speaker 3 But that one felt

Speaker 3 very good.

Speaker 9 If you say anything around Philadelphia Twitter, they're going to come at you.

Speaker 3 It's not going to be confetti.

Speaker 3 The Sixers are good.

Speaker 9 These things are considered like sins.

Speaker 3 I actually like the Sixers. I like Joel Embiid when he's on and not out of breath and going 0 for 12.

Speaker 9 If he was your star player and he missed a wide open layup at the end of the game, you would be furious.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, the 0 for 12 is a tough thing to come back from in the second game.

Speaker 6 It was eerily reminiscent of the Patrick Ewing missed layup at the buzzer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's just, I mean,

Speaker 3 let's see what happens tonight. Maybe he caught his breath.

Speaker 6 I think the problem with Joellen Bied is.

Speaker 3 And if in Making one of the conference finals, he's going to be dead.

Speaker 3 He has no

Speaker 3 thought of making it to the finals.

Speaker 6 He's just so freakishly big and athletic that there's something wrong with him. And so the human body was not meant to do the things that he's able to do.
It's like in Jurassic Park,

Speaker 6 you were so preoccupied with thinking if you could, you didn't stop to think whether or not you should. And with Joelle Embiid, he's able to do these crazy things, but he's also, how tall is he?

Speaker 6 He's like 7'2?

Speaker 6 7.

Speaker 6 He's massive.

Speaker 3 He's 7'3.

Speaker 6 He's a big dude, and he moves.

Speaker 6 He moves so incredibly well, and he can jump so well. But like the human body at some point is just going to be like, dude,

Speaker 6 chill out. Like, sit down, play some video games for a while.
And then Ben Simmons, no one's really talking about the fact that he also choked at the line again.

Speaker 3 That's

Speaker 3 a good idea. He's a pimp candidate.

Speaker 6 He is a guy that could absolutely deal with maybe learning the underhanded foul shot.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Do you think Giannis? Sorry to go back to the Bucs, but do you think he's going to change his routine this summer?

Speaker 3 He has to. He has to go fast.
Has to. Has to go fast.

Speaker 3 Like, the last thing you want to do, and I do think that for Simmons and Giannis, obviously they're not great shooters regardless, but I do think it's a lot mental.

Speaker 3 And they just have to change something that they do, some routine that they do to change up the mental aspect of it.

Speaker 3 Like, if I were Giannis, the minute I got past the ball, I'd just fucking shoot it right away.

Speaker 6 Well, what about this? What's the rule in terms of foul shot? You're not allowed to step. Your foot can't land on the line or

Speaker 6 step back no i'm saying like when when they're calling a violation in front of you oh it's where if your foot lands before the ball goes into the hoop or hits the backboard or the rim or whatever right no i think you could if you step back away from the line you can do it as a jump shot so that's what i'm saying i like you could in theory have him take a couple steps back sprint towards the basket oh and dunk it run almost dunk it i don't know if you're allowed to touch the rim probably not never been an issue i would imagine in the past that might be illegal can you jump lay the ball in and if it goes into the basket before you land?

Speaker 6 I don't think so. I think that you can because it's when the foot lands.

Speaker 3 I don't think you can go past the line, though, with the ball in your hand. Jay, can you look that up? I mean, there's no way.
Yeah. In the air.

Speaker 3 The ball would be in your hand across the line. Do you think you're the first person to think about that?

Speaker 6 But if you have really long arms and you just stand, but flat-footed and lean over, I'm sure that when they're doing the pimp grip, the underhanded shot,

Speaker 3 your hand goes to the ship. You're saying jumping.
You're saying jump in.

Speaker 6 Jump in the air. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But he's then holding the ball over the line.

Speaker 6 But I think it's only if your feet touch the ground.

Speaker 9 I think you have to be behind the line when you release the ball.

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 9 I'm just making that up, but that sounds right.

Speaker 3 That does sound right.

Speaker 9 So you can't release the ball in front of the line.

Speaker 3 Also, Trey Young needs a shout out because he was terrible shooting, and he made up for it by being incredible with assists.

Speaker 3 Shout out to Trey Young.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, it was like, that's the mark of a really good player when they, you know, when they don't have their A-game shooting the ball, and they find another way to basically take over the game, and that's kind of what he did.

Speaker 3 Do you have it for us?

Speaker 11 The shooter shall be above the free throw line and within the upper half of the free throw.

Speaker 11 He shall attempt the free throw within 10 seconds of controlling the ball in such a way that the ball enters the basket

Speaker 3 of the ring. The first thing you just said was what it is.
You have to be in that area. Wait, say it again.

Speaker 11 The shooter shall be above the free throw line and within the upper half of the free throw. He shall attempt the free throw within 10 seconds of controlling the ball in such a way that

Speaker 3 it enters the basket. But that's it right there.

Speaker 6 I don't know if it is or not. Without attempting, because he is, he would technically be in that area while attempting it.
He would just be in mid-air.

Speaker 3 No, but he would have the ball. Yeah, but he would be in mid-air.
The attempt starts when the ball is released, not when you jump.

Speaker 6 It's part of the act of shooting.

Speaker 3 I think the shooting attempt, but like if you, if a shot clock violation,

Speaker 3 if you jump, but you still have the ball in the air, that's a shot clock violation. Right, but that's a lot of time.

Speaker 6 But that's a question about time, not a question about space.

Speaker 9 Sorry to interrupt this riveting conversation, but we got to take quick.

Speaker 9 Reggie Miller just prompted this on Twitter, threw this out there to the people on the bird. I'm just going to throw this out there to see what the responses will be.

Speaker 9 If you're Steve Nash in the Nets, would you sit James Harden and Kevin Durant in game six because of the heavy minutes tonight and push all of your chips to the center of table for game seven?

Speaker 3 No. James Harden, maybe.
Maybe James Harden.

Speaker 6 I like where Reggie's head's at, though.

Speaker 3 But why would you just, like, what?

Speaker 6 Just not try.

Speaker 9 What? You never played the game. You don't know what it's like?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I never played the game, but I know you got to play the game.

Speaker 3 I just Googled it. Can you dunk from the free throw line?

Speaker 3 It says, no, you cannot dunk from the free throw line because there are rules in place forbidding you to cross the free throw line until the basket hits the rim.

Speaker 6 What website is that?

Speaker 3 Sounds like Bleacher Report.

Speaker 3 You're acting like

Speaker 3 whose entire job they think about basketball. There's so many tall basketball players that suck at free throws.

Speaker 9 So, this is not something that's like you just came up with.

Speaker 6 Think about it. Okay, here.
How about this, big cat? Can you lay up from the free throw line? Yes. It's where you jump from.

Speaker 6 Players end up inside the three-point line all the time when they shoot, and it still counts as free.

Speaker 3 Rule number one, rule number nine, the free throw shooter may not step over the plane of the free throw line

Speaker 3 until the ball touches the basket or

Speaker 3 backboard or what?

Speaker 8 Isn't that just for the live ball?

Speaker 3 What do you mean?

Speaker 11 Not about the

Speaker 11 time violation.

Speaker 3 The ball, you can't cross the free throw line until the ball touches the basket ring. Right.
Right.

Speaker 3 So that means you can't jump over the free throw line.

Speaker 6 But they don't measure.

Speaker 6 They don't judge the air. They judge lines.
Like out of bounds.

Speaker 6 You can jump out of bounds with the ball, but as long as you don't touch the ground. But don't you think someone would have done this if you could do this?

Speaker 6 No, because they're not as brilliant as I am.

Speaker 3 uh okay

Speaker 3 okay

Speaker 6 you know what this this sounds like a question for the nba reddit community that asks those questions like can you just surround uh steph curry with all of his players holding hands right

Speaker 3 uh there's rumors that wilt chamberlain dunked free throws there's no actual footage of wilt dunking from the free throw line I think you run into trouble if you touch the backboard or the rim or any of the apparatuses.

Speaker 6 I think the move would be to take a couple steps.

Speaker 9 You cannot do this.

Speaker 3 There's no, like, you are just.

Speaker 3 There's no. I just like the idea that you think this is the.
No one's ever thought of this. No one has.
This very long.

Speaker 6 I've never heard anybody ever discuss it, and certainly not because it's a stupid topic.

Speaker 3 All right. Can you legally dunk a free throw in the basketball answer?

Speaker 6 I didn't say dunk.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, but you're jumping across the free throw line is the same.

Speaker 6 No, I'm an advocate for laying the ball into the basket before you hit the ground.

Speaker 3 But it pretty much says that you can't do that. You can't cross the line.
You're just saying air doesn't count.

Speaker 6 Air doesn't count, man. Airspace does not count in basketball.
It's where your foot is.

Speaker 3 Parallax effect? It could be. This also sounds like it would be harder for Giannis to basically jump.
He has to get the ball to hit the rim before he lands. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Every time. It's almost physically impossible to do, but it's not impossible.

Speaker 3 Okay, we need a rules official to hit us up. Jake, you got anything else?

Speaker 3 You just got the rules. You found the rule.
I got the the rules. I got the rule book.
I'm pretty sure it feels like illegal.

Speaker 6 Either way. It's only illegal until...
It might be one of those things where it's legal until someone's stupid enough to try it.

Speaker 3 Illegal that. Has anyone tried it? Has anyone tried to jump across the free throw line for a free throw in a game?

Speaker 3 All right. Anything else? The Islanders, that series went 1-1.
The Canadiens finally showed up to America, a place to play in front of some real fans, and it was a rave. Vegas is all the way back.

Speaker 3 Let's do some hot seat, cool throwing. Yeah? Yeah.
That was weak in hockey. What do you guys think

Speaker 3 real quick? Do you think that the Nets Bucks goes seven or you think six?

Speaker 6 I think it goes seven.

Speaker 9 It depends if they sit Durant and Harden.

Speaker 11 You can't step on or over the line until the ball touches the hoop.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Meaning you can't step over the line, meaning your foot can't land over the line.
It says the word steps.

Speaker 3 This might be the thing.

Speaker 8 They probably don't even have this hypothetical

Speaker 3 in there. No one's thought of it.
Yeah.

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Speaker 3 Hank, hot seat Cool Trone.

Speaker 9 My hot seat is guys who eat pussy.

Speaker 3 Oh!

Speaker 9 Box munchers, yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 6 so I'm throwing Junior Soprano.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I feel like, you know, I feel like in the past 10, 20 years, there's kind of been a rise. It's been having a moment, if you will.

Speaker 3 Eating pussy? Yeah.

Speaker 9 But

Speaker 9 Batman, so there's the Harley Quinn movie, which is the girl, and there is a scene where Batman was eating her pussy, and PC shot it down. They're like, we can't have that.
He's a superhero.

Speaker 9 We can't, you know.

Speaker 3 Is this directed by troops?

Speaker 6 He said, you can't do that.

Speaker 9 You absolutely cannot do that. Heroes don't do that.

Speaker 9 And they said, are you saying heroes are just selfish lovers? And they said, no, it's what we sell consumer toys for heroes. It's hard to sell a toy if Batman is also going down on someone.

Speaker 3 I disagree. I disagree.

Speaker 9 Everyone looks up to heroes. Everyone wants to be a superhero.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 And if you want to be a superhero, you can't eat pussy. So it's like

Speaker 9 all the kids with all the dreams. Everyone loves Marvel, the Avengers, Batman.
All those kids are going to grow up

Speaker 6 not going down. Not eating pussy.
Well, I also think that in the last couple of years, it's been a moment for eating ass.

Speaker 6 I feel like ass eating has kind of overtaken eating box in our national discourse. And so maybe you think, I bet you Batman would eat some ass.

Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 I don't like this move. I think Batman should be able to eat anything.
I would walk out of the theater. What? Oh, really? Well, wait, wait.

Speaker 6 Batman's not a superhero, is he?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, no, he's technically a rich guy.

Speaker 6 He's just a rich guy. And I bet, yeah, rich guys don't eat pussy.

Speaker 3 That's true. I agree with that.
Superman.

Speaker 3 Michael Douglas.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's true. He got cancer because he ate so much poontang.
He's the poon hound of the millennium.

Speaker 3 Max only. It is.
It's true.

Speaker 6 But yeah, I feel like a billionaire doesn't eat pussy. And that's what Batman is.
He's just a billionaire with a belt. That's right.

Speaker 9 Bezos and then got divorced.

Speaker 3 Yeah, good call.

Speaker 6 And Bill Gates.

Speaker 6 Bill Gates isn't going down on bitches. Nope.
Nope. Superman would eat the fuck out of a clit.

Speaker 3 Where's Bill Gates been? Has he gotten hot yet? Probably doing that. I'm waiting to see him pop up just ripped.

Speaker 6 I can't wait till Jeff Bezos leaves and then comes back and we all pretend not to know him.

Speaker 9 My cool throne is Girl Scout cookies.

Speaker 6 Nice transition.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 6 Now, that's a box I would eat, Hank.

Speaker 9 Oh, got him. I mean, that's a you meant to do that.
That's a five-head transition that I totally got to do.

Speaker 9 Um, there's a huge shortage because of coronavirus, or no, there's a huge, uh, there's 11 million bonus boxes that they didn't sell.

Speaker 3 Oh, so there's a surplus.

Speaker 6 Surplus.

Speaker 9 This year, there's gonna, you know, two for ones. Oh, a lot of bang for your buck if you're a Girl Scout cookie fan.

Speaker 3 I love it. I love it too.
I'm a tagalog guy.

Speaker 9 15 million boxes of unsold cookies due to the stupid coronavirus.

Speaker 3 What's the what's the peanut butter chocolate one that's tagalog yeah those are fucking sick those are amazing tag along tag along tag along tag along tagalog is the language yeah yeah tagalog thin mints in the thin mints in the freezer tag alongs and samoas that's all you need so what they should do is they should just burn the overstock right don't some companies do that where they if they have a surplus they just destroy it so it doesn't devalue the rest of the money they bring it here big maple syrup i always respected by the way loud sean because i think his daughter is a girl scout and he never really took advantage advantage of the fact that this entire office is full of fat stoners, so he could have easily just taken advantage of us.

Speaker 3 He always hit me up for like a decent amount, but he knows deep down if he's like, hey, do you want 400 boxes? I'd be like, yes, thank you.

Speaker 3 Let's go. That's it.
That's it. Okay.
All right. Good job.
Thanks.

Speaker 6 Great job. You took my hot seat with the pussy talk over there, Hank, but that's fine.
I'll adapt.

Speaker 3 I'll evolve.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is the U.S. Open, and more specifically their ratings for Thursday, because they have declined to group Brooksie and Blake together.

Speaker 3 Wait, they didn't decline. Brooksie did.
Correct.

Speaker 3 Actually, not true.

Speaker 6 No, Hank, Hank, that's fake news, Hank. It's my understanding.

Speaker 9 You're saying our guy, Barcelona Banks, was lying?

Speaker 6 Well, he merely saw a tweet, and he reported the tweet.

Speaker 9 He talked to the agent.

Speaker 6 He saw, no, the agent talked to. I don't think the agent talked to Banks.

Speaker 3 You blew up the blog.

Speaker 6 Maybe I'm wrong. I might might be wrong.
I've been wrong before. Not about the free throw thing, but about other stuff.
And I think that the word coming out... Oh, wait.

Speaker 6 So you're saying we should just blindly trust what Bryson DeChambeau's agent says about it.

Speaker 3 Fair.

Speaker 6 It's my understanding that they were both asked and that Bryson DeChambeau turned it down because he didn't want to turn it into...

Speaker 6 Basically, Brooks was going to live rent-free in Brooksy's head. And so he turned it down.
And by the way, that's a little life hack for all the kids out there.

Speaker 6 If you ever want to say something without sounding stupid about it, instead of saying, like, I heard or I thought, say, it was my understanding that.

Speaker 6 So it's my understanding as a reporter that Bryson actively turned it down because he's a pussy and Batman wouldn't eat him.

Speaker 3 The entire thing just proves the point that like it's good for golf because they clearly wanted this to happen. The U.S.
Open wanted it to happen.

Speaker 3 I mean, it led Sports Center, like all these things. So Brandley Chambly and all these people, like, oh, this is bad for golf.

Speaker 3 Dude, people are going to watch because if you put them together, people would have tuned in on Thursday and Friday that normally wouldn't have tuned in.

Speaker 3 And you can say, oh, that's not the type of fan we're trying to attract.

Speaker 3 I think if you're not, if you're any sport besides the NFL, any fan's a good fan.

Speaker 6 Do you think that active, like, die-hard old school golf fans, I'm talking 50s, 60s, would not tune in because Brooks and Bryson were playing together? No. Because they thought it was.

Speaker 6 No, they'd still watch. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You'd be gaining fans.

Speaker 3 Of course.

Speaker 6 You'd be gaining massive amounts of media coverage.

Speaker 3 Which is money for everyone, including Branley Chambly.

Speaker 3 So, way to hurt yourself, bro.

Speaker 6 Yeah, all those guys screaming, nice shot, Brooksy, at Bryson, they pay your salary, Brooks boys.

Speaker 3 Look at Mark Valberts getting a little.

Speaker 3 What a guy. What a class act.
A career, a career, Wilson. He's got a class act.
Jake, and he got the jersey with the microphone.

Speaker 3 Or is that handcuffs? That's not anything of it.

Speaker 3 yeah and the what's on the front the ball gag

Speaker 6 the front is just it's a brazier it's just there's no front of the buttons it's just bite marks lace yeah all right your cool throne uh my cool throne is the narrative that alabama quarterbacks are busts in the nfl oh because to a There are varying media reports, but he threw approximately 300 interceptions in practice yesterday.

Speaker 6 And so now it's a case of looking at the sidelines and seeing, do you know know who the backup is?

Speaker 3 The backup. Josh Rosen.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Maybe. Jacoby Brissette.
Oh. And Jacoby Brissette.

Speaker 6 He's the ultimate guy where you look on the sidelines and you're like, maybe.

Speaker 3 He's going to look fat in that uniform. No, he's good for a few starts.
He's not going to look good in that uniform. I'm just going to say that out loud.

Speaker 6 But what we're seeing here is like, because he had that one bad game at the start of minicamp or whatever they're calling this set of workouts,

Speaker 6 there's going to be reporters that fire up a tweet every single time he throws an interception in training camp. Everyone is going to be documented.

Speaker 6 It's going to be like the RG3 year in Cleveland where they were reporting on the various barnyard animals that he was accidentally hitting with throws over a fence. That's what happened.

Speaker 6 So this is going to, it's going to snowball, and then that's going to feed right back into the Alabama quarterbacks can't play.

Speaker 6 And as just a fan of narratives in general, I'm here for it very much.

Speaker 3 Hank, is Mac Jones wearing 50 as a joke?

Speaker 9 I guess it's a thing. It's like an earn your number thing.

Speaker 3 Ah.

Speaker 3 Every time I see it, I'm like, what's going on here? Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 6 I thought it was like, how many DUIs have you had?

Speaker 3 50.

Speaker 9 Camera's got a great nickname for them, though. So they're

Speaker 6 Mac and Cheese.

Speaker 3 That's pretty good. Cam, because it's Mac? Mac.

Speaker 3 Where's the cheese?

Speaker 9 Well, like, Mac and Cheese is a food.

Speaker 3 But where's the cheese? Mac's name is Mac.

Speaker 3 He's in cheese.

Speaker 3 Mac macaroni.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 All right, my hot seats is MLB. They've done it again.
The spider tack controversy that they knew about forever and decided, hey, we're going to now start punishing people. They went

Speaker 3 zero tolerance policy, eliminated all substances, and now Tyler Glasnow,

Speaker 3 incredible pitcher for the Tampa Rays, is basically saying he got injured because of it because he went from being able to use a bunch of different stuff, including sunscreen, which I guess is, I think you Darvis used to use sunscreen to get sunscreen and Rosen.

Speaker 6 It's a mixture, yeah, when you combine them together.

Speaker 3 But he is blaming his UCL injury on this, which might be a reach, but I also could kind of see that if you just completely change how you throw a baseball in the middle of the season, you might overextend and try to do things that you're not comfortable with.

Speaker 3 So good job, MOB. You really fucking did it again, you idiots.

Speaker 6 They're finding a great way to stay relevant.

Speaker 6 in the middle of the season, which is it's very much Major League Baseball to have everybody focused on the sport for that is, we're really just talking about how badly they've mismanaged something about the sport.

Speaker 6 And it's been pretty bad. So they're saying, like, you're allowed to still, you can use sunscreen during day games.
You can't combine it.

Speaker 6 You can't use sunscreen if you're playing a game indoors with roof closed, which I guess I understand that one. That kind of makes sense.

Speaker 6 But they're saying, like, if it's an evening game, if you're in a transition period where the sun's going down, try to get all the sunscreen off your body before it gets totally dark out there.

Speaker 6 That's going to be just a treat to watch umpires try to police that. Yeah.
So I don't know what they're going to do. They're just going to make them show their hands every time they go out.

Speaker 6 Make them stupid. Go out and like rub the back of their arms.
So stupid. All I know is that if I were the Yankees,

Speaker 6 the Yankees are looking for a reason to fire Aaron Boone at this point.

Speaker 6 If I'm the Yankees' ownership, I'd be like, oh, yeah, we're going to fire Aaron Boone because

Speaker 6 he was the one that was in charge of teaching our players all the cheating.

Speaker 3 So now he's out and then they can hire whoever it is they want to hire but it's just it's a good way to have a scapegoat if you've got somebody you want to fire tie it into this narrative it's just so stupid MOB is so fucking stupid they're just so goddamn stupid they've known about this forever and then it became a story because they ignore it and then when it becomes a story they basically go swing the pendulum as far the other way it's just so so dumb just wait till the offseason Trevor Bauer said this but it's like you just

Speaker 9 Just deal with it for the season and wait for the offseason to make drastic changes But to just do this be like all right Monday you you can do this wednesday if you do this you're suspended right yeah but what trend

Speaker 3 like take what trevor bauer said he's like maybe you guys should wait until i'm a free agent again to start policing this but it's so stupid to do this like in the middle of the season like to go from maybe just blame maybe just say no spider tech you know the sunscreen the rods and all this other shit find a different way i mean guys doctor their bats and their grips and shit it's just so dumb i think they're just pissed because you know i think home runs are down right jake home runs might be down so they're like hey we got to get it a little bit.

Speaker 3 We've got to figure out a way to get home runs back, which because they, you know, they had the juice baseball, then they had to unjuice the baseball.

Speaker 3 MLB's just so dumb and incompetent, and they always get in their own way. Well, they're responding.

Speaker 6 They're responding to the controversy of like too many no-hitters. And a big reason for that is because they did change the baseball.

Speaker 6 So they're kind of in two different ways responding to their own fuck up.

Speaker 3 They're so stupid. All right, my cool throne is Andy Dalton.
He's QB1. Matt Nagy, wow, way to go, dude.
Only the Bears, only Matt Nagy would name his QB1

Speaker 3 before you even have training camps.

Speaker 6 He said he can't envision a scenario in which Justin Fields would start.

Speaker 3 I'm actually okay with Justin Fields not starting week one. What I'm not okay with is being like, there's no competition.

Speaker 3 How do you every

Speaker 3 successful football team ever basically is like, yeah, it's always a competition. The best guy, like, you know, iron sharpens iron.

Speaker 3 You think Bel Belichick would be like, oh, yeah, there's 0% chance that Mac Jones could ever beat out Cam Newton.

Speaker 3 Cam Newton's probably QB1 right now, but if Mac Jones killed Cam Newton in camp,

Speaker 3 you'd play the best guy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it also shows a real lack of creativity on Matt Nagy's part to not even be able to think of a scenario where he might start.

Speaker 3 Yeah, how about Andy Dollin gets hit by a bus? No, not saying he wants to. No, I don't want him to.
I actually like Andy Dollin. He's a really nice guy.
That's what he's doing.

Speaker 6 But what if that happens? Like, Kyle Shanahan can envision seven different scenarios in which Jimmy Garoppolo won't be alive tomorrow. Right.

Speaker 6 Matt Nagy can't even think of one where he's, you know, his ticker's going to give out before September, what, 10th?

Speaker 3 Fucking idiot. All right, Jake, quickly, hot seat, quickly.

Speaker 11 Hot seat is Mullitz. Gardner Minshew cut his off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he can win a Super Bowl now. Dana Blowjobs still has his.
King of Blowjobs. If anyone's looking for one, Dana Beers, he's now transitioned to being King of Blowjobs.

Speaker 6 You think Wonder Woman gives head?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 The misogyny is just off the charts over at DC.

Speaker 11 Cool Throne is Madden Codes.

Speaker 3 We're getting a cover of two goats.

Speaker 8 That's all they said on Thursday.

Speaker 11 Thursday.

Speaker 3 Tomorrow. What?

Speaker 11 They are announcing two goats.

Speaker 3 Quickly. Quickly.
What? Are you going to say what your idea?

Speaker 6 That John Madden should be on the cover.

Speaker 3 Picture ones that kill John Madden. No, no, I actually did.
No, we should go visit. I know.
He wants to kill him. No, hey.
TFT is trying to kill John Madden. I'm not.

Speaker 6 I'm saying

Speaker 6 we need to go visit death over John Madden because a picture came out of Ronnie Lott visiting John Madden. It looked like at a retirement home.

Speaker 3 No, but he's looked that old since the day he stopped announcing.

Speaker 6 It looks different.

Speaker 3 No, he's looking very old.

Speaker 6 It looks different, different this time. And the fact that...

Speaker 3 You're trying to kill him.

Speaker 6 No, I'm not. The fact that Ronnie Lott had to post a picture saying, like, look, who's still alive? It's John Madden.
Can you believe it? Like, I don't know.

Speaker 6 I'm a big believer in honoring those amongst us while they're still alive.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Give the roses to the living is what they say. Let's name a video game after him.
Put John Madden back on the cover of Madden.

Speaker 3 So who's going to be? Who do we think is going to be? Tom Brady and

Speaker 3 my guess. Oh, did you see, by the way, Aaron Rodgers saying I'm offended?

Speaker 3 I think that people were linking it to the GM saying he's a complicated fella, which pretty much means he's a dick. You don't say someone's a complicated.
Like, if you ask, like, hey, how's that guy?

Speaker 3 Is he cool?

Speaker 6 Well, he's complicated. He's got a great personality.

Speaker 3 That is the nicest way to say he's an asshole.

Speaker 3 And again, I want Aaron Rodgers to be happy, so I'm not saying he's an asshole, but other people are. Your GM is calling you an asshole.
Just think about that. Your GM called you an asshole.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to our interviews. We've got Jay Cutler, Sons and Four guy, Will Compton to end the show.

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Speaker 3 Okay, here is Jay Cutler.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, very close, dear friend of mine. It is Jay Cutler, my quarterback.
From the Bahamas?

Speaker 7 From the Bahamas.

Speaker 3 Let me see.

Speaker 7 A little Caribbean vacation.

Speaker 3 Ooh, look at that. That's not bad.
That is beautiful.

Speaker 6 You got a balcony bed out there?

Speaker 7 Yeah, there's a little balcony bed, a little

Speaker 7 hot tub.

Speaker 7 It's nice.

Speaker 3 Okay. Hair's looking good.
We got you on. We're going to talk whatever.
We're going to shoot the ship, but we also got to talk a little Father's Day. You've got cuts.

Speaker 3 You're doing a new...

Speaker 3 I mean, I guess it's a line. It's a line of meat.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Swinging meat.

Speaker 3 Yes. With Pat Lafrida's.
And you sent us some. Delicious.
So what's the deal? How can people do it? And what are are they looking for for Father's Day?

Speaker 7 Yeah, thank you. So Father's Day is coming up.

Speaker 7 You're a father, so you know the importance of the day. Not to take away from Mother's Day.
But Cuts,

Speaker 7 you can log in on the website, cuts by jmpat.com. And we've got a new box, our subscription boxes.
We've got one month, three months, and six months. And then we're doing a gift box.

Speaker 7 on Father's Day with a 40-ounce tomahawk in there. You're going to get some steaks, you're going to get some hot dogs, you're going to get, you're going to get all the stuff.

Speaker 7 So it's uh, I've been lucky, really lucky to team up with Pat. I mean, him and his crew are phenomenal.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we have one tomahawk.

Speaker 6 I cooked the tomahawk the other day. Can they can people out there order the tomahawk that's got like the engraved name in the bone?

Speaker 7 Um, that was just special for you.

Speaker 6 Oh, it was nice. Thank you.
I don't think I can eat another animal that doesn't have my name laser cut into it.

Speaker 7 I know it's pretty cool. The Father's Day one has number one dad engraved in it.

Speaker 6 So that's cool.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we're doing that.

Speaker 3 Hopefully, I would never, I said this last year. Like, I think it's bullshit that everyone gets number one dad.
Like, rank me appropriately.

Speaker 7 What do you think you land?

Speaker 3 I'm like somewhere, I don't know if you did every, how many dads are there in the world?

Speaker 7 I mean, let's just, I mean, I think 150.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I'd say I'm in the top, I'd say I'm in the top 20% of dads.
Top 20%. Yeah, I think I'm top 20% of dads.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I think I do a pretty good job.
I'm not saying I'm top 10%.

Speaker 6 You have a pretty good job. That's like

Speaker 6 top 40%.

Speaker 6 Top 40% is elite.

Speaker 3 What do you think, Jay?

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 7 I feel like it's easier than you think

Speaker 7 to be in the top 10%.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay. Just, yeah, like be around a lot.

Speaker 7 Be around, be attentive. You know, don't hit them.
I mean, there's, I mean, there's, I feel like there's some, I feel like there's unfortunately some absent dads out there.

Speaker 3 Right. And those guys are getting like number one dad engraved tomahawks, and it's not fair.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 Totally.

Speaker 3 But if you're, I'd put you top 10%.

Speaker 6 If you're an absent dad, sometimes that's better than being there and being a shitty dad.

Speaker 3 If you're, yeah, right. If you were, yeah, that is.

Speaker 6 It's like less is more. Addition by subtraction.

Speaker 3 I just wish they would rank us. Like, I wish we would get a power rankings.
That's what they should do for Father's Day. They should just have a selection show and rank all the dads.

Speaker 3 It's like, not everyone gets number one. I think The Rock probably gets number one.

Speaker 6 Well, yeah, if you were to seed dads, like who are the who are the four number one seeds of dads?

Speaker 3 I think The Rock is up there. The Williams dad? No, he's back.
The Williams? No, he's a helicopter dad.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but they won multiple majors. That's both daughters.

Speaker 3 That's true.

Speaker 7 Who's why is Rock? Why is Rock won?

Speaker 3 I don't know. He just fucking always posted, and he's got his little.
I think it's just the, I think it's the, like, how big of a human being he is. And then he has like a tiny little daughter.

Speaker 3 So he, it's almost like a

Speaker 3 Disney movie come to life. Well, yeah, all of his movies.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I love The Rock, but I mean, I'll play Devil's Advocate.
Maybe he's compensating because he's gone so much and he's just posting some, you know? Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so if you had to go by that, then I would say probably the best dad in the world is someone we never hear from.

Speaker 7 Yeah, ever.

Speaker 6 Probably. What about

Speaker 6 Mr. Long? What about Howie Long?

Speaker 3 Yes, Howie Long. I mean, Chris and

Speaker 3 Kyle and

Speaker 3 Howie Jr. all come out.
Howie Jr. pretty good.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Antonio Cremardi.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Has to be up there.
He's up there for sure.

Speaker 7 Top top 10 for sure.

Speaker 3 Yes, just by numbers, if you're going just numbers game, he's yeah, he's a liler. He puts together

Speaker 6 a lot of garbage time.

Speaker 7 If you can have kids, that many kids, that close in age, like you're, you have to be doing something right.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes. And you're just, yeah, they all donate you.
That's you get a lot of credit for that. All right.
So, Father's Day, we got on a little tangent there. I was thinking about this.

Speaker 3 Vanderbilt, they just hired a new coach. Did they reach out about coaching now? Yeah.

Speaker 7 No, I talked to them briefly.

Speaker 7 And then I don't know who's on the committee that makes that picks the coach. I have no idea.

Speaker 7 I talked to the AD

Speaker 7 once,

Speaker 7 and then they kind of just didn't contact me anymore. So I don't know.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 Wait, so that sounds like they did reach out, or did you reach out? I'm basically.

Speaker 7 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 They reached out just to get my opinion on like, you know who i thought what they needed not for me to actually coach i would never coach there but oh you would coach somewhere else then no i would never coach period interesting that's a shitty profession yeah it is it honestly seems miserable like the oh it has to be miserable even if you're the greatest at your job and you're winning national championships you're allowed to be happy for about 30 minutes and then it's back to be miserable Yeah, and I think I feel like your dad ranking just plummets when you're doing the coaching.

Speaker 3 Yes, for sure. Big time.

Speaker 3 Although you let your kids run on the field after the game.

Speaker 7 True. I mean, there's perks.
They get swag. They get cool stuff.

Speaker 7 They just never see you. They just never see you.

Speaker 3 Right, right.

Speaker 6 I like that they at least asked you, though. They came and they kissed the ring a little bit for Jay Cutler.

Speaker 6 But like, in terms of your future professional aspirations, last time we talked, I think that

Speaker 6 there was talk about you getting in the booth.

Speaker 6 People forget you were actually hired by Fox for like a week. And then you were like, you know what, I'm going to to go back and play football again.

Speaker 6 First of all, I guess we should ask, are you officially, officially retired from football?

Speaker 7 Yeah, officially, officially retired.

Speaker 7 I've been owning some of the friends here in pool games this week, so my arm's warming back up, but I don't think I'm ready for the big time yet.

Speaker 6 So are you going to get in the booth, though?

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 7 I had conversations about it.

Speaker 7 Two or three months ago.

Speaker 7 You know, my problem with that is every

Speaker 7 every game's an away game. You travel every week.
And, you know, whenever you're playing Saturday afternoon, you're gone, play Sunday, and you're back.

Speaker 7 Like, this is like, you have to be there Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and you travel 16 straight weeks. I mean, I'm not opposed to it.

Speaker 7 You know, just right now, it's not something that I'm 100% fired up to do.

Speaker 6 If there was a home team that played all their games in the Bahamas, you'd consider it.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 3 Okay. Beat all over it.
Wait, this sounds to me like you're kind of making a running here for number one dad because you're essentially saying my job right now is to be a dad.

Speaker 7 I think I'm trying to break in the top 10.

Speaker 3 What? Can you actually just be a dad? Like, is that enough in your day?

Speaker 7 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you need to find out the thing.

Speaker 7 I would hate my kids.

Speaker 3 You got to find something else to do.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 if I hear daddy or dad one more time, I'm going to kill somebody.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So, wait, what are you going to do then? Tell us, give us a break of sales.

Speaker 7 I just signed a podcast deal. Got that happening.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Nice. Awesome.
Yeah. Welcome to the Terror Dome.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm not sure how that's going to go. I mean, it can't be that hard.
You guys should sit there and talk to people.

Speaker 3 Essentially, yeah. So easy.
It's the easiest.

Speaker 6 You're going to be great at it.

Speaker 3 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 7 So that we got the cuts thing. And then I'm working with some guys in Nashville on a company that we're getting close to.

Speaker 7 It's kind of a media company type of thing, so we're getting close to doing some stuff with that.

Speaker 6 You're gonna invent a media company?

Speaker 7 I'm not inventing anything, I'm coming up with some guys that have a media company.

Speaker 6 Interesting. Does his name start with Clay Travis?

Speaker 7 Um, no,

Speaker 7 but Clay knows about the media program.

Speaker 3 So it's Jay Cutler and Ben Shapiro.

Speaker 3 Oh, oh, no, Ben.

Speaker 6 Oh, is that Tommy in the background?

Speaker 3 Until I say hi.

Speaker 3 How, all right, so it is a real question. How weird is it to be retired, but everything you say or do becomes news?

Speaker 3 Like, I don't know what it is about you, but you have something about you that people just want to talk about you.

Speaker 3 Is it annoying that everything you say becomes news, or do you kind of like the fact that, hey, still got it?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, kind of like the fact, still got it. You know, you can make some money.

Speaker 7 Now, it doesn't bother me now because, you know, I'm not playing football. So you can say whatever you want.
Like, I can care less.

Speaker 7 And I don't have to, I get to pick and choose who I want to talk to, when I want to talk to them.

Speaker 7 And I'm usually talking about stuff I want to talk about anyway. So now

Speaker 7 it's fine with me.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
When you were.

Speaker 7 I mean, I think I'm kind of on the barcelo train. Like, you know, all publicity is give publicity at this point.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
Well, be careful. Usually I could end up in a sex tape.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Just don't let it cross state lines. You'll be good.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Was there anything like when you were doing publicity in the NFL after a game, you'd be like, talk to the reporters or like the people that you had obligations to talk to?

Speaker 6 Would you know in the middle of an interview, like, this is what I just said a couple of seconds ago, that's going to suck because that's going to be taken in a certain context.

Speaker 6 And my week is going to be tough. Or did you just not care?

Speaker 7 I don't think I didn't care.

Speaker 7 You know, I think I got to a point where it's like, they're going to write, like, most of the time, I get, get to a point, like, these guys have already written their article. Like, they're done.

Speaker 7 They've already written written it. They've got what they want to say.
You know, they're just looking for one thing out of me.

Speaker 7 And, you know, depending on the mood, sometimes I gave it to him. Sometimes I would literally be as vague as humanly possible.

Speaker 3 And then sometimes my favorite Jay move would be if he didn't feel like talking to the media, he'd just send Kyle Long in his place to Waddle and Sylvie's show.

Speaker 3 And then it was like seven in a row where it's like, and Jay just doesn't want to do this anymore.

Speaker 7 I think he quit.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
He was like, wait, what the hell? I'm just doing this now every single week.

Speaker 3 I'm Jay Colony.

Speaker 7 Kyle was like, do I got to rename the show? Like, what's happening here?

Speaker 6 You should have just put on like a wig and worn one of your jerseys and pretended to be you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just Mega Jay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 He texted me a couple days ago. That's a shame about his legs.

Speaker 3 I know. I know.
He hurt his leg.

Speaker 3 He got injured. He got rolled up on.

Speaker 6 Apparently, he might be back for the regular season, though.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like I said, he's going to keep it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think it's three, four months. He should be back.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 not to toot his horn because he can, you know, he's his own guy. But apparently, he was dominating in practice.
I'm just going to say that. Oh, really? Well, that's what he told me.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to, I'll be, I'll happily, for a friend, I'll happily say that he was definitely dominating.

Speaker 7 It wouldn't surprise me. I mean, he's a fit show.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 7 Like, he puts his hands on you. It's game over.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Do you feel like 100% physically healthy now?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 6 You know,

Speaker 7 I didn't have any knee problems, anything like hips. I had shoulder surgery.

Speaker 7 So physically, I think I feel good. I've lost weight.

Speaker 7 I would say memory and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 That CTE is doing, it's coming at some point.

Speaker 3 You think so?

Speaker 7 Oh, without a doubt.

Speaker 3 Because how many concussions did you end up having, you think?

Speaker 7 Oh, I mean, since I've been playing in

Speaker 7 double digits, 15.

Speaker 3 Shit.

Speaker 6 That's one of those things where it's like almost waiting for it can be its own personal type of injury where you're just like, you psych yourself out for it enough.

Speaker 6 And you think every time you forget something, like, oh, what if this is the start of it? What if it started to degenerate?

Speaker 6 Are you able, like, is there anything that has been whispered to you or is kind of like floating out there just under the surface of ways that you can try to prevent some of that stuff from taking onset?

Speaker 7 You know, I'm doing a thing called NAD now, which I don't even know what NAD stands for. You'd have to Google it, but it's an IV drip.

Speaker 7 And it kind of goes, it starts like the mitochondria, like the basis of your cells

Speaker 7 starts regenerating from that side.

Speaker 7 You know, fish oil, heavy amounts of fish oil are supposed to help the brain.

Speaker 7 You know,

Speaker 7 I think diet, you know, less sugar, less carbs, you know, as much as you possibly can do. But,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 concussions are, I mean, they're scary.

Speaker 3 What was the worst one? Was it? I have an idea of what might have been, but what was the worst one like that you were like, holy shit, I don't remember any of it.

Speaker 7 I would say the texans one but you you obviously texans one texan one was bad like texan one was bad um

Speaker 7 we were playing i think we were playing washington and i got it was a db i forget who it was and i just got slung around he just slung me around and like threw me down and my side of my head hit and that's kind of that's like the one of the only times i was i was out out i was out for you know a second and got up and walked off um

Speaker 3 i don't know i think you know if you play long enough it's gonna happen to you yeah what uh so speaking of of guys who are who are still playing and uh weird situation but I think you're kind of friends with them now Aaron Rodgers have you

Speaker 3 like what do you make of that it's it's it's like it's weird because it's it just feels like it's not going to be resolved and they're just kind of sitting there like all right who's making the first move here well he's not I mean I haven't talked to him I haven't spoken to him on this I mean I'm kind of letting him be I don't really want to bother him

Speaker 7 but I doubt he's gonna break yeah I think this I think this has been brewing for a long time.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, I've got a theory that he might just disappear.

Speaker 6 He seems like the kind of guy who at least has had those conversations where he's like, I don't need to be around sports, I don't need to be in the spotlight that much.

Speaker 6 What if we just like ran away and went off the grid together? I feel like if any quarterback's going to do it, he is the one that would have the personality type.

Speaker 7 Oh,

Speaker 7 I totally see that. I totally agree with that.
You know, he's he's in love, he's engaged,

Speaker 7 life's in order, he feels at peace. I mean, I can see him rolling out, but he's also competitive as hell, too.
So, I mean, I think that's going to be hard for him just to walk away

Speaker 7 the year after he wins the MVP. I mean, I mean, he's on fire.
I mean, Green Bay, Green Bay needs to figure it out. They need to do whatever it takes, literally, whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they, I mean, it seems like they, they are going to just sit there and be like, all right, you're either playing for us, you're not playing for anyone.

Speaker 3 But one of the teams that he's been rumored to go to, your former team, which I know you loved it there, Denver.

Speaker 7 Like, that's a really, just, you know talk up denver real quick for aaron if he's listening like it's an awesome place right awesome place yeah fans are awesome stadiums awesome facilities is awesome um the weather i mean it's it's a unbelievable city happiness

Speaker 7 yeah everyone i mean sunny you know there's 300 days of sunshine a year out there you get all four seasons i mean it's it's it's a Great place. Great place to play football, too.

Speaker 7 I don't know. Who do they have? Do they have anybody on offense?

Speaker 6 Got Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 3 No, no, but

Speaker 3 no, they actually have good receivers. They got, fuck, what, Fanta, the top.

Speaker 6 Noah Fant. Noah Fantz.
They've got

Speaker 3 Fanta. Jerry Judy.
Yeah, really fast receiver.

Speaker 3 He can go. Yep.
Who else did they get? They got a couple other guys. They actually have some good weapons.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, Aaron's just going to run around and figure it out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 But might as well figure it out with 300 days of sunshine when maybe, you know, you're not so happy in Green Bay.

Speaker 7 absolutely but i mean why why didn't green bay go after julio i mean they gave him to tennessee i mean uh-huh

Speaker 6 i i think i don't i think maybe because the falcons might not want to have traded him like within the it's not like within the conference yeah but it's not like atlanta was going to be competing for a super bowl this year yeah

Speaker 6 not at all i don't i don't really get that either they should have at least at the very minimum done what the celtics do all the time which is say that you're going for somebody and then when you don't get them be like we tried to get him so that way

Speaker 3 that way at least Tom knows.

Speaker 7 Yeah, some sort of peace offering. Hey, we're trying to get you somebody.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So Justin Fields, do you like him? Do you think that he's going to be successful in Chicago?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I haven't, you know, I mean, I saw him in college this year.
I haven't studied him or anything.

Speaker 7 Are they going to play him? I mean, is that the word up there?

Speaker 3 I don't know. It feels like they're not.
What would you do?

Speaker 3 Like, if you, knowing everything that you had in your career, do you think that there's, do you land on the, hey, just put the guy in because he'll either figure it out or he won't or let the guy sit and learn how to be a pro for a little bit.

Speaker 3 Which one would you side on?

Speaker 7 Uh, 100% let him sit.

Speaker 3 Really?

Speaker 7 100%.

Speaker 7 I mean, that used to be what everyone did back in the day. Like, you know, very few.
I mean, Dan Marino kind of started, but a lot of those guys, you know, they sat and watched for a little bit.

Speaker 7 And I think there's a lot of, I think it's very valuable. I think

Speaker 7 you get settled in.

Speaker 7 You know, I think guys now are a little bit more tuned and ready for NFL than they were, you know, 10, 15 years ago when I came in.

Speaker 7 But it's just a different game. You know,

Speaker 7 these guys are coming from these programs that they've had one loss or two losses their entire career. They play with the best kids in the country on their team.
Competition isn't really that

Speaker 7 great. I mean, they play a few games a year that are tight, but you get the NFL and everyone's good.

Speaker 3 Everyone's good. And also, I know this is based on my own team, but if you had to like say it, like Ohio State runs better as a franchise than the Bears.

Speaker 3 Just for like a football ops situation, they are. They do.
They have a better culture. They have probably just as good facilities, like all these things.

Speaker 7 It's probably better.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 The only thing going against Justin Fields right now is he's, so he's been told that he's going to be back up, that they want him to sit. They want him to watch.

Speaker 3 Oh, hasn't been told that?

Speaker 6 Well, they've said Andy's or starter going into the season. Yeah, depending on what Justin Fields is going to be your your number two.

Speaker 6 But once you get through the second preseason game and it's become very obvious to everybody, not just in the games, but in practices, that Justin Fields is a better player, they're at some point this year going to be like, we got to put him out there.

Speaker 6 Especially if they start losing a few games in a row, Matt Neggie is going to be like, yeah, we got to save our jobs. Let's put Justin Fields out there for a little bit.

Speaker 3 But yeah,

Speaker 3 you can tell that in a locker room, right? Like, if the coach isn't playing the best player, guys get pissed, right?

Speaker 7 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
I mean, quarterback's a little bit different because,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 offense, defensive guys, you know, they're cycling in and out of practice. As a quarterback, as a backup, he might get two reps.

Speaker 7 So you're not going to see that much of him in the regular season if they can get him to that point. But if he's head and shoulders better,

Speaker 7 yeah, it's going to be a problem at some point.

Speaker 7 But I mean, I think Andy's, I don't think he's going to go in there and just blow Andy out of the water. And he's not awful by any means.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 not that a lot of people are. You don't have to tell me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we have history with that. AD-14.

Speaker 3 Isn't that weird that that ended up happening?

Speaker 7 I know. I know.

Speaker 3 I would take you over Andy Dalton right now.

Speaker 3 I would. I would.
Wait.

Speaker 6 Who's a better dad?

Speaker 3 You, for sure.

Speaker 3 Well, I can't speak to Andy Dalton. I've seen you with your kids.
You're a good dad. I haven't seen Andy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's got a bunch.

Speaker 7 Does he?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Wait.

Speaker 3 So I have a, this is kind of like a, I don't know where you're going.

Speaker 7 I don't think that they should plan. They shouldn't plan to start, see how the season goes.

Speaker 7 If they start losing a bunch of games, you know, I'd wait until week 10 or something. If they start off on fire, even better.
You know,

Speaker 7 they don't have to play them.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, how quickly, when you start a camp, how quickly can you tell the new guys, the rookies, like they got it or they don't?

Speaker 7 Like, can you tell, like, all right, this guy's going to be a pro or this guy i don't know what they saw but he does not have that it factor oh i mean i i think i think players know before scouts and coaches do you know scouts and coaches they're on all potential and you know we can we can we can grow them you know he's gonna do whatever it is like as a player you don't care either you either you can step in the huddle and make some stuff happen for us or you can't that's it um so a couple practices and you know most of the guys know who can play if you can't play was there ever a guy who surprised you you who you're like right away you're like oh he can't play and then he's like oh he actually can play i was wrong no

Speaker 7 no i mean no nobody that jumps off the page like that

Speaker 7 because i mean you just know like i mean we've been you've been playing with playing football with guys since been five so it's it's not lost on anybody

Speaker 7 what about but but unfortunately you know not many people not many gms not many coaches listen to their players that often so that's where they get screwed i think they know more than we do Right, right.

Speaker 6 Are you still a gunslinger?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like day-to-day life? How do you maintain a gunslinger lifestyle when you're not playing football?

Speaker 7 You go to the Bahamas and just kind of hang out.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Pool games, sling some meat, you know.

Speaker 6 Are you throwing like papers into the trash can from across the room?

Speaker 3 Just recklessly. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 Always throwing stuff around. We were playing.

Speaker 7 We're trying to, I'm with some guys here, and we're trying to come up with new pool games because one guy with us literally hasn't won one yet.

Speaker 6 There's a great game called Demi.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Hank, tell him about Demi. Hank's got a game for you.

Speaker 3 Hank's got a game for you.

Speaker 9 You drop. One person puts a golf tee at the bottom of a pool.

Speaker 3 I don't know if he's talking about pool. I think he's talking about pool.
No, no, he's talking about jumping in Bahamas.

Speaker 9 You drop a golf tee into the bottom of the pool and then everyone stands around and you just have to like spot the golf tee and the first person to grab it wins.

Speaker 9 It'll float up slowly and kind of drift up and you have to just, you know, first person to see it, jump in and grab it. And if someone misses it, then it kind of floats around.
It's chaos.

Speaker 6 That's a good game. It's essentially the same game that you would play with like six golden retrievers.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a good game. It's a good game.
With a stick. Yeah, that's a good game.

Speaker 7 I don't, you're not. I'm not sold on this game.

Speaker 9 Listen, get your guys around. Just stand them on the edge of the pool.

Speaker 3 One guy goes to the bottom of the pool with a golf tee, and you'll see what happens. It's fun.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 7 We're going to try it.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Okay. I'm curious here, Hank.
So when it, when they let it go at the bottom, you can't see it, right?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 6 So it's totally invisible, and then eventually it'll float up high enough where somebody will spot it.

Speaker 3 Yes. Okay.
What's the guy?

Speaker 9 So one person will see it first, but then other people will jump in reactively.

Speaker 9 And then if someone doesn't get it right away, like if they don't get it on the first jump, then it's all the people are in the pool now and it's floating around.

Speaker 3 You can't see it anywhere.

Speaker 6 And you can't see it.

Speaker 9 And it's like, where is it? And then someone will eventually get it.

Speaker 7 So the guy that has to go into the water first, is he just kind of out then? Or he has to get back out? No, he's going to get up.

Speaker 9 Get up. Stand up.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 the guy who puts it in the Dimmy? Yeah. Has to get up.
He puts it down in the bottom, and then he gets up out of the pool, and then everyone stands around.

Speaker 6 Yeah. But he's got an advantage because he knows where the T is.

Speaker 3 I don't know what you want.

Speaker 3 You guys are trying to game break the game to me. It's a fucking pool game.

Speaker 3 I don't know what you want me to do. I play this really bad.

Speaker 3 We're playing it's too fast. You guys are trying to, like,

Speaker 6 you ever do the one where you just jump off the diving board and then have one of your friends like toss a tennis ball to you in mid-air.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, that's a great game.

Speaker 6 That's the best. That's a classic.

Speaker 3 That's a great game.

Speaker 7 So, this tea has to be white, I take it, right?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 7 Well, white too.

Speaker 3 Could be a brown one. Probably not blue.
Yeah. We've got plastic wood.

Speaker 9 I don't know. Just grab a fucking golf tea and fucking put it at the bottom of the pool.

Speaker 3 We're trying to get some rules here, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Is there like, is there, is there like points?

Speaker 3 It's usually like

Speaker 3 a drinking game. First person to 10.

Speaker 9 First person to 10.

Speaker 3 First person to 10? Yeah. That sounds a long

Speaker 3 war version.

Speaker 7 This is a workout now.

Speaker 3 Afternoon, a full afternoon going after. Could you imagine watching this from afar? I also

Speaker 3 fucking these guys keep jumping in.

Speaker 9 Yeah, like I haven't really played it since I was like 12 or 13, so I don't know how it will be with like full-bodied adults, but you know,

Speaker 3 we can report back. Oh my god, it should be an Olympic sport, Hank.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a good sport. Uh, we talked to uh Brett Favre, another gunslinger, a couple months ago, and he actually had a really interesting answer to a question.

Speaker 6 We asked him what his favorite interception was, and he told us to a T what his favorite pickoff was. Do you have a favorite interception?

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 it wasn't in a game, it was in practice. It was my rookie year in Denver, and Champ Bailey picked me off in practice.

Speaker 7 And he had on like Champ's swag was like through the roof and he had on this blacked out visor looked like Darth Vader over there scared to death to throw it his way because I mean he was an interceptive machine and uh

Speaker 7 it was a hitch and he was he was like eight yards off he was like eight yards off

Speaker 7 And I was like, just don't look his way. Just take your three, bang it out there.
We get a completion. We can move on to the next bike.
Just don't look over there. So I'm kind of peeking that way

Speaker 7 snap it i'm like all right i just straight through one two three and i literally just threw with like a missile i was like just beat him just get the ball there as fast as possible and this dude i don't know how he did it but he was eight yards he might have taken like two steps back and then like literally just

Speaker 7 wham gone picked it off high steps like 80 yards down the field i was like well okay well i guess this is the nfl don't throw champaille yeah he was that dude.

Speaker 7 Um, he was so good, it was unbelievable how good he was, and he tackled like he did everything, yeah, everything. I mean, he'd mix it up.
I mean, he was he was he was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 What a

Speaker 3 what about a what about a touchdown you threw that you were like,

Speaker 3 man, my arm is awesome.

Speaker 7 Oh, um, that was my rookie year, too, I think.

Speaker 7 Um,

Speaker 7 it was to uh

Speaker 7 Javon,

Speaker 7 He went to a receiver.

Speaker 3 Javon Walker?

Speaker 7 Javon Walker. Yep.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 it was a bootleg. So faked right.
And I was rolling left. And he was on the left side too.
And it was a double move. And he ended up back in the post.

Speaker 7 And I was going left. And someone was coming at me.

Speaker 7 And I flipped my hips real fast and literally just, I mean, lasered one like 65 yards, hit him in stride at like the five, and I got smoked after it.

Speaker 3 I'm watching it right now. Yeah.
Are you? Week 14 against the Cardinals. It's a 54-yard touchdown.
You got smoked at the end, and that throw is fucking

Speaker 3 sick. Holy shit.
And you were like, damn, I gotta, I gotta fucking get it.

Speaker 7 I was like, all right, we can do this.

Speaker 3 That's awesome.

Speaker 3 That's a great throw.

Speaker 6 Do you have any throws that you made that maybe didn't count during the game? Maybe there was a hold, a throw that Tom forgot that you still remember? Like, damn, I wish that one had counted.

Speaker 7 No, I don't know.

Speaker 7 There's a couple, like,

Speaker 7 there's a couple like little loft throws that I made, like, in the tight stuff. I was like, man, that was really good.
That was a really good throw.

Speaker 3 Dude, this throw is sick. It is pretty good.
This throw is sick.

Speaker 6 You put it right out in front of him.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's great that that was the one that came right in your mind because it is absolutely up there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that throws nasty. Yeah.

Speaker 7 There's some dude. There's some dudes out there that can just throw the football now, though.

Speaker 7 I mean, Aaron has a cannon. Stafford's underrated.
He's got a cannon.

Speaker 7 Brady somehow, his arm's gotten stronger.

Speaker 6 Interesting.

Speaker 6 With Matt Stafford going to Los Angeles, I feel like that's a move that we haven't really talked about that much this offseason.

Speaker 6 But like, is he good enough to bring the Rams back to the Super Bowl right now?

Speaker 7 I think so. I think he's going to blow it up.
Coaching staff's good.

Speaker 7 He's going to have some of the best play calling he's ever had in his life.

Speaker 7 And he's still talented. Dude, can throw it.

Speaker 7 He's competitive.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think he's a future Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 People get mad at me for that, but he is going to have-I don't know how they'll judge this era for quarterbacks because it's going to be difficult because obviously the numbers are so inflated.

Speaker 3 But if he plays for another, I don't know, four or five years, he will be like numbers-wise up there with everyone else.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You're 100% right. His numbers are going to be ridiculous.
But

Speaker 7 I mean, what's if he doesn't, if he doesn't, if he doesn't win a playoff game the rest of his career, is he still in? Right.

Speaker 3 That's the problem. I think he has to go.
What I've said is he's going to be a Hall of Famer if he can get a deep run, which means he's got to get to a championship game or a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 I think that would be, because then you have the stories that are written about him. Everyone's like, oh, Matt Stafford's so underrated.

Speaker 3 He needs that moment that everyone starts to kind of wake up to him.

Speaker 3 Like, oh, yeah, like he actually has had a nice career in bad situations yeah he's made a ton of money it's incredible how much money he's made there and they're winning like two games a year yeah yeah it is it is actually crazy and he's tough as hell he like i feel like he's one of those guys that gets beat up all the time and never misses games except you know he broke his back but yeah i was doing some and he also had he had like some shoulder issues but i'm saying like the only time he missed a game he literally broke his back yeah it's like yeah that's fair that you can miss those games yeah you missed that game yeah i was uh i was doing some research on your stats here jay you never caught a receiving touchdown

Speaker 7 no

Speaker 7 it literally bothers me yeah that's tough did you ever lobby to get yourself put in all the time all the time i was like someone like can we not have a fake play can we not throw me like something give me something um

Speaker 7 yeah never did Well, you did.

Speaker 3 Same, really.

Speaker 3 You did get that chance to be a receiver with the Dolphins and you just gave no fuck. Like, you just were standing out there with your hands on your hips

Speaker 3 i mean i'm not doing anything they told me then they said hey just take a step back that's what you need to do i was like okay i thought and you certainly took a step back you're like yeah i can do that i'll i'll do that i wouldn't even lift my hands up yeah i'll nail that roll watch this you do you think maybe after that experience that would have been the perfect time to throw you a pass yeah

Speaker 6 run it run it again in the fourth quarter but this time boom yeah gone after there's a little bit of film out there of jay like literally looking like he wants to bury himself underneath the turf instead of playing wide receiver.

Speaker 6 Maybe next time just have him pretend to do that and then run a go route.

Speaker 7 Well, here's my thing with the Wildcat situation like that. Just put somebody else in the game then.
Like, at least make it legitimate. Like, put somebody

Speaker 7 you want out there. Like, why, why are people putting a quarterback out at receiver?

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, that makes no sense.

Speaker 3 You literally have your hands on your hips, though. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, it's 11. It's 11 on 10.
Like,

Speaker 7 I wouldn't even send a corner out there about.

Speaker 6 This isn't happening. Is the cornerback allowed to come up and block you and just knock you on your ass in that play?

Speaker 7 Yeah. You can get hit.
That's why they take a step back. If you step, I don't know.
I don't know what the rule is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, yeah, like your hands on the hips, like if someone came and hit you, like, you'd be a real dick.

Speaker 3 I was like, come on, man. You're essentially saying with your body language, like, I'm here, but I'm not here.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 3 They're just paying me to stand out here.

Speaker 7 They're just paying me to stand out here guys and literally they're not throwing me the ball they don't they don't care what i do did you ever think about blocking somebody though yeah

Speaker 7 for sure

Speaker 7 but then then then you're then you're setting yourself up for failure yeah if you instigate then it's like that rate now the other person can respond yeah or if you instigate and it doesn't go the way you think it's going to go Then you're just a jackass.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
And I feel like also

Speaker 3 all the defensive players,

Speaker 3 the thing they're looking for more than than anything is to have a chance to go at the quarterback like freely and be able to light you up.

Speaker 7 Absolutely. The rules now are so, I mean, it's you can play quarterback forever now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is ever.

Speaker 6 It is. You can play for 30 years.
Yeah. With these new rules, as a dad, are you going to let your kids play football?

Speaker 7 It's a really good question.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 7 And Camden wants to play so bad, it's not even funny.

Speaker 7 He wants to play flag football now. You know, he watches it 24-7, 7 memorizes everybody um

Speaker 7 i don't know you know it's it's going to be one of those things that it's going to be hard to hard to keep him out it's going to be hard to say no um

Speaker 7 i think i'm i will get to a point where

Speaker 7 if i don't think he's good enough to you know to play high school or to play college if you know he's just out there just getting his head beat in just for just cuz I'm gonna I'd be like, hey, why don't we play some comps?

Speaker 7 But if he's competitive, can take care of himself and you know, has it, has a chance at going to school or college or something like that,

Speaker 7 I'll support it.

Speaker 3 We should, you know, what I was thinking about? This just popped in my head because you're talking about like being good enough.

Speaker 3 We should put a calendar, Jake, put it in a calendar once a year. We got to make the Jay Cutler basketball mixtape go viral because you got to love that.

Speaker 3 When everyone's like, dude, Jay Cutler was sick at basketball. It's like, well, he was a fucking NFL athlete.
Like, I wouldn't, I'm not shocked.

Speaker 3 And also, you were playing against like no one that was over six feet.

Speaker 7 They were six feet in weight. They were like five, like five, ten in weight.

Speaker 3 And you're just dunking on everyone.

Speaker 7 They, uh, that's it's kind of a little-known fact how athletic most quarterbacks are.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 7 Like, they're sneaky athletes.

Speaker 3 Well, you know what it is? It's, I think that there's, I mean, now it's totally different, but you know, like 25, 30 years ago, you'd have a bunch of quarterbacks that were, you know,

Speaker 3 like almost cement shoes. Like, you know, it was, it was always a classic, like, no mobility.

Speaker 3 Now, all the quarterbacks, they, I would imagine they're some of the best athletes, like overall athletes on the team.

Speaker 7 Oh, for sure. I mean, good hands, you know, they're smart.
They can run. I mean, I just,

Speaker 7 the position has changed, but, you know, some of some, some dudes that play quarterback, like Josh McCown, like, get him on a basketball floor and see what happens.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Dude, can just straight fly. It's amazing.

Speaker 6 Dude, you're just jamming on people. Oh, jamming.

Speaker 3 They're all little kids.

Speaker 6 Is that your only move you only dunk, though?

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's all I did.

Speaker 6 Didn't have a jumper? You haven't taken a single jump shot on this.

Speaker 7 No, it was, I think it was, it was, that was in, you know, that was,

Speaker 7 we made that, they made that tape, and it was, that was VHS back then. And that's what you were sending off to colleges.

Speaker 7 So, you know, I had all my football highlights, and then at the end, we just threw a bunch of dunks in there just to kind of try to sell the sell the athlete part.

Speaker 3 And then, yeah, you had the, I don't know, I've seen this a few times on Twitter, but like the, was it trick play that won you state title at Indiana at the RCA dome?

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It was a trick play at the end to win the whole title.
What was the trick play?

Speaker 7 We went into uh we went into overtime. We were up.
We were up big.

Speaker 7 Not big. We were up 21 something,

Speaker 7 21 nothing, 21 seven. And then they came back and uh

Speaker 7 no time left. And they, I had, I played safety too.
So I had like 21 tackles, and the other safety had like 22 tackles. Like, we couldn't stop this dude.

Speaker 7 Like, this guy was just running through us like butter.

Speaker 7 Um, and they drove down to the

Speaker 7 20-yard line. I want to say it's a 30-yard kick.
Um,

Speaker 7 freshman kicker they had,

Speaker 7 and uh, no time left. There's two seconds, three seconds left.
Missed the kick.

Speaker 7 They missed the kick to win. We go to overtime.
Um, I think they kicked the field goal. We got the ball.

Speaker 7 First play,

Speaker 7 I muffed the snap,

Speaker 7 ended up diving on it. Second play, they call it.
It was like, I forget, it was like ace of spades, right, or something like that. And we had four guys out.
We had four receivers out to the right.

Speaker 7 I kick it out there, backwards pass, and then kind of

Speaker 7 walk off to the left a little bit. We had lineman pull on the left, threw it back to me, walk in, in, touchdown.

Speaker 3 So, you did catch a receiver. That's received.
That's way better than any NFL touchdown to win state title as a quarterback to catch a touchdown.

Speaker 3 I knew that I thought, like, I, yeah, I have, I have a vague memory of seeing this on Twitter. There it is.
That's better than, yeah, that's the best touchdown catch you can catch.

Speaker 6 And I'm watching this kick from this guy at the end of regulation. It looks, it's about a 30-yard field goal, and I think he lands it five yards short.

Speaker 3 He

Speaker 3 kicks it 25 yards.

Speaker 7 I think that kicker was actually really good, too. Like, he just, I don't know what happened on that one, but then he nailed the one in overtime.
But yeah, that was my last play in

Speaker 7 high school. My last play in college was a touchdown throw to Earl Bennett.

Speaker 7 And then my last play in the NFL was just an incompletion to No Man's Lander knows.

Speaker 3 In week 17, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you played like one set of downs, and that was it.

Speaker 7 One set of downs, yeah. And Gace is like, hey, you want to take another run at this i'm like

Speaker 3 for what oh i don't

Speaker 7 hell no oh no it's like we're like we're like six and whatever like

Speaker 3 why

Speaker 6 uh we need to follow up on what we talked about last time which was your chickens how are your chickens doing uh struggling oh no we're struggling we had another we had another raccoon problem um

Speaker 7 man i've learned that everything

Speaker 7 basically on the planet can kill a chicken like they're just they're just worthless they can't defend themselves they don't have a brain like it's just i don't it's just tough yeah anything that anything that looks bad at a chicken can kill it yeah so i feel bad getting morc i'm like god these bastards are probably gonna die too so like what am i doing it's just a slaughterhouse at this point yeah but all chickens kind of do die like you know that's a great point yeah i mean at least i'm giving them a little bit of a

Speaker 7 fun life for a couple months.

Speaker 3 You're adopting chickens.

Speaker 6 You're fostering chickens until they get killed by nature.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's better than being like a fast food restaurant chicken.

Speaker 7 True, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 7 they live in a cage this big. Lights on 24-7.

Speaker 3 Right, exactly.

Speaker 6 Those chickens that you're getting,

Speaker 6 you're really saving their lives in a way.

Speaker 6 You're giving them a life. And yeah, they might.
It's like chicken fantasy camp. They get to live out like the biggest fantasies that a chicken could ever have until they get slaughtered by a fox.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and horrific, horrific death.

Speaker 6 But I would take that bargain as a chicken. Yeah, I would say.
I'd rather get mauled by a badger after living outdoors for six months and living in a pen.

Speaker 3 Yeah, than some fat ass like coming in, being like, all right, now it's time to slit your throat so you can go be some chicken tendies. Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, so you're good.

Speaker 7 A fast food chicken.

Speaker 3 Oh, dude, fast-food chickens, by far the worst life. Like, they overgrow their breasts, right?

Speaker 3 They're like me sitting in a fucking cage with big-ass titties just waiting to die. I am a fast food chicken.

Speaker 6 Although, I would like to be a chicken that gets killed and then gets shipped to Buffalo Wild Wings. That would be cool.
During March Madden.

Speaker 3 During March Madden. Yes, that would be.
I think that's like. The greatest life a chicken could have.
Yeah. Yeah, week 10 and 20.
What rivalry week, college, week 10 NF. Oh, Iron Bull?

Speaker 6 Being an Iron Bowl chicken would be amazing.

Speaker 3 That would be sick.

Speaker 3 Oh, man.

Speaker 3 All right. Last question.
So go to Cuts right now.

Speaker 3 Get the box for Father's Day. Give us your number one grill tip because I'm trying to get better at grilling.

Speaker 7 Okay, get the grill as hot as you possibly can.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 7 Hot. Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot.
And then if you've got to take it off the hot and just kind of put it in the corner and just let it cook the rest of the way there. Do you have a meat thermometer?

Speaker 3 I am buying one. I bought one.
It's on the way.

Speaker 7 Okay. You got it.
You got to get a meat thermometer.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 7 Because the temperature is...

Speaker 3 is key.

Speaker 7 How do you eat your steaks?

Speaker 3 Medium rare plus.

Speaker 7 Perfect. Okay.

Speaker 7 i know it is so then the next key is once you once you hit your temperature take it off and let it rest

Speaker 6 10 15 minutes till it's till it's almost you don't want it a little bit cool i mean you don't want to eat cold meat but it shouldn't be hot see that's my problem that's where i always up because as soon as i finish i want to eat it gotta let it rest yeah you gotta let it rest because all those juices soak back up in there if you just cut it right then everything's gone soaking yourself one thing i i learned recently was when you sear it you can sear it at the end you can start it in the oven and then you can sear it after it's all like mostly all the way cooked somebody had told me like my whole life that searing locks in the juices that's actually not true but it just sounds cool to say so people have repeated it but you can sear at the end yeah it's called a reverse sear yeah yeah we're gonna reverse sear all right everyone go check out jaycuts.com check it out we had the tomahawk steaks they were incredible um jay great to talk to you hopefully see you soon We might see a grit week.

Speaker 3 I'll let you know. Nashville might be on a stop.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 enjoy the rest of the afternoon and your games of Demi. Let us know how it goes.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, I'm going to the pool right now to play this Demi game.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 7 I don't have high hopes for it. I'm just going to throw that out there.

Speaker 7 I think Hank should have said, hey, we played it when we were 12, not two weeks ago. That probably would have been helpful for me to know that.

Speaker 3 But I mean, I'm.

Speaker 6 Give it a shot. Give it a shot.
You never know. Do you have a golf team?

Speaker 3 How deep is the pool?

Speaker 9 That's the real, that's the big question.

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 7 I bet there's probably places that's eight foot. I mean, I wish it was 10 or 12.
I mean, that seems like more fun, but we'll make it work.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I need an update.
Give me an update after you play Demi.

Speaker 7 Will do. Appreciate it, boys.

Speaker 3 All right. Thanks, Jay.
Talk to you later.

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Speaker 6 now here he is sons and four guy and now for something completely different

Speaker 3 okay we now welcome on very special guest it is sons and four man

Speaker 3 oh i love that that made me jacked up in the flesh Nick McKellar McKeller. Is that right? Now you got it.
He is the Sons and Four man. We have some shirts out right now, Sons and Four fire shirts.

Speaker 3 Go check it out at the Barstool Sports Store. We did it with Nick.

Speaker 3 First of all, I don't know. Your head must be spinning because you went, was this Friday night you beat up the Murray brothers and then all of a sudden you got Devin Booker tweeting at you.

Speaker 3 You got shirts up on Barstool Sports Store. I'm assuming you have tickets now to the game.

Speaker 3 How has like the last four days been?

Speaker 14 Yeah, I mean, it's been a roller coaster for emotions, obviously. It's been pretty wild.
I'm still trying to process everything.

Speaker 14 The last thing I thought was me being viral in a video, you know, so

Speaker 14 yeah, I'm just trying to just trying to take it step by step, you know, just being chill with it. But yeah, you know, Devin Booker reaching out, his team reaching out was pretty epic.

Speaker 6 So yeah, it's amazing. Congratulations.
I, I, the first thing that I thought when I saw the fight that you were in was this guy is kicking somebody's ass, but he's doing it in a very chill way.

Speaker 6 Like the uppercuts were chill. And I think that everybody that watched that, you were fun to root for in that situation.
So can you walk us through

Speaker 6 like what led up to that fight? What were they saying? How long had you guys been going back and forth? And at what point did you realize, okay, it's time to chuck some nucks? Yeah.

Speaker 14 Well, let me take you back. I mean,

Speaker 14 I'm a Phoenix fan that's been living in Denver for 10 years. So just having this opportunity to see a playoff game was just a dream.

Speaker 14 So after having it come into fruition, I'm just, I'm ecstatic to be there. I'm in Section 106.
I'm right behind the way team. And,

Speaker 14 you know, like I'm having fun. Like, I'm making the whole atmosphere just a fun environment for everybody, Nugs fans, Phoenix fans, anybody.

Speaker 14 And so everybody's on my side before this fight even happens. But, you know, cut to the fourth quarter.
There's two, three minutes left in the quarter. Suns are up by 15.

Speaker 14 I'm doing a little chirping at the crowd, but it's all lighthearted. It's all in fun nature.
Like, bye, safe trip home, see you tomorrow or see you next year. Just all in for fun.

Speaker 14 And these two guys are walking up from the lower section and they took offense to this. They didn't like what I was saying, clearly.

Speaker 14 So, you know, homie with four watches is, is coming up to me and flaunting his fake jewelry, clearly flake, fake as fuck jewelry. And I gave him shit about it.
So we were talking shit back and forth.

Speaker 14 He pulls out a wad of cash like, it's going to change my opinion on you.

Speaker 14 And so it's just, it was just a wild time to be like, wow, people like this really conduct themselves in an environment like this. It was pretty gnarly to go and witness.

Speaker 14 So, you know, I turn my head for a second. I hear, you know, watch out.
There's beer being poured on my head. My jersey's being tugged.

Speaker 14 And once someone puts their hand on my and my body, like I feel threatened and instincts kick in. So I'm starting to

Speaker 14 defend myself and I'm pushing them back, telling them to leave, like get away from my face.

Speaker 14 And, you know, then obviously you see the video of

Speaker 14 Edgar is what people like to call him. Eager Edgar, you know, throw the sloppy ass sucker punch.
And yeah, I mean, the rest is pretty much history.

Speaker 14 You know, just because I had the crowd initially on my side made everything just so much more perfect because.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would say that's the part where it's like you, you can tell that you were not in the wrong and you were probably doing just like very

Speaker 3 like generic chirping, having fun at a Way Stadium.

Speaker 3 and not pissing people off because it seemed like all the Nuggets fans were rooting for you. I actually saw

Speaker 3 another angle from up higher and the guy was a Nuggets fan. He was like, yeah, fuck him up, fuck him up.
So you had Nuggets fans rooting for you. That's how much these guys sucked.

Speaker 14 Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's,

Speaker 14 you know, when I got escorted out by the cops, I had four other Nuggets fans come out to me and talk to the cops. But like, I have a lawyer giving me his card.

Speaker 14 I have other people saying it's all self-defense. Like, so, I mean, it was pretty cool.
Like, I'm obviously not banned from the Nuggets stadium. And, you know,

Speaker 14 the most important part is that I and the people that I love are,

Speaker 14 you know, are safe, right?

Speaker 6 So and the guy, one of the Murray brothers, I maybe this was, you said his name was Edgar. Edgar did like a Snapchat video right after.
Have you seen his recap of the fight?

Speaker 6 I have seen his recap of the fight doesn't really square with the video evidence that we were presented with. I think he said that he beat your ass and he was like showing his like bloody fists.

Speaker 6 Did you, right after you were escorted out, who was the first phone call you made? And did you hop on Instagram live to tell everybody that you just got your ass kicked?

Speaker 14 Um, well, my buddy was at the game and he was saying nosebleed. And uh, I called him immediately when I was escorted by the cops and I told him I just got into a fight.

Speaker 14 Um, I never thought it would be in a viral video. I didn't think the cameras were out.
Like, I was just focused on one thing.

Speaker 14 Um, and the following morning, he hit me up and he said, I, you know, you told me you got in a fight. I didn't know you did them like this.

Speaker 14 And so I just saw this video go from 1,000 views to, you know, a million in less than a day. And

Speaker 14 it's just

Speaker 14 a crazy time to be living in right now.

Speaker 3 I think, honestly,

Speaker 3 the video doesn't go viral if it weren't for the Suns in Four. The Suns in Four, as they're walking off, was such a perfect thing to say where it's like not malicious.

Speaker 3 It's just, hey, buddy, I'm in your stadium. I just beat your ass.
Suns in four. Now, was there any nervousness on Sunday night? Because I think we all knew the Suns were going to win the series.

Speaker 3 But if they didn't sweep, if it wasn't Suns in four,

Speaker 3 that video becomes kind of forgotten because it's like, hey, you didn't do it. Like, I bet on the Suns because of that video, because of you.
I was like, this guy was a spoiler.

Speaker 3 He basically told us what was going to happen. So you must have had some extra nerves going into Sunday night being like, god damn it, the Suns better win in four.

Speaker 14 Oh, yeah, they have to win or this is dying down real quick. And I swear Jokic or Jokic saw this video somewhere because he got in Booker's face like he wanted to do something.

Speaker 3 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 6 Oh, man. So, have you made contact with Devin Booker?

Speaker 14 His team reached out, yeah.

Speaker 6 Okay, are we, can we expect to see you in one shape or another at the next round?

Speaker 14 We're in talks. Uh, there's nothing set in stone right now.
I mean, my goal is like, if I can go to the game, which would be epic, is just to shoot around with the boys. Like, that's all I want.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's kind of a big ass.

Speaker 3 You were going to say, like, I just want four seats for me and my friends. Like, nah, dude,

Speaker 3 I just want to warm up with the boys. I want to hang out in the locker room real quick.
Fucking get in the layup line. Like, that's a big ask.

Speaker 3 I love that.

Speaker 3 That's a true fan. You're like, I just want to shoot a route with the boys.
Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 6 Maybe get invited to the team hotel beforehand.

Speaker 3 Oh, who knows? Yeah. We'll see where it goes.
All right. So I heard some shady shit goes down at those.

Speaker 6 I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 No, just interviews.

Speaker 3 So, Nick, I told you beforehand that uh the only thing you had to prep for was we we actually had one of the only times that we've ever uh predicted something correctly by going we were a nuggets podcast during the regular season and then we flipped to the suns podcast before this series started and then they swept sons and four so we are uh i would say actually the numbers don't lie we are the number one sons podcast in in the world it's just a fact uh it's just a fact but for the grass tyson maybe maybe maybe but for people who are like um hey you guys are real sons fans like i like you guys don't really know sons history like what should we know

Speaker 3 what should you know yeah as a sons fan like if we're if we were like these are the true things like callback jokes or hey this is how we're feeling

Speaker 14 to know anything history historically just know that sons and four and maintain that energy the rest of this playoff series i like it so they never lost another game well i think sons and four is more of like a mentality than it is a prediction.

Speaker 6 So right now, yeah, we're a Sons and Four podcast. It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to win in four, but that's the energy that we're bringing to the next round.

Speaker 6 They might win in six, might win in seven, but it's still that same Sons and Four like drive that we're going to have.

Speaker 3 100%.

Speaker 14 So it's a big dick energy you bring.

Speaker 6 So do you want to give a prediction depending on who they play in the next round?

Speaker 14 Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, I'm hoping that the Clippers win. Because we really want home court advantage, and I'd rather play the Clippers than the Jazz.

Speaker 14 I think Jazz are just a terrifying team for us uh

Speaker 3 and you know if it does go to clippers versus sons i think we have a real chance of sons and four again okay i love that we do i love it what about campaign do you love him campaign is sixth man of the year yeah he's so bad but he's somehow good it's crazy it's crazy man i've watched him play a lot of basketball i don't know what he's doing he's like

Speaker 3 he's someone that everyone should aspire to be like just find your moment and just become incredible for a small stretch, and people will just change everything they know about you.

Speaker 14 Yeah, for sure. He gives us that second boost of energy that we need off the bench.
So, he's a he's crucial part to the team.

Speaker 6 What about the gorilla? Do you think there's any chance maybe you could get on the court and I don't know, like, hold the ball over your head and have the gorilla jump over your head and dunk it?

Speaker 14 I think we need a new mascot. Like, I don't even know where the gorilla comes from.
Like, I'm thinking maybe try to employ me or commission me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I like this. I like this.
Okay. Well, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to do something.

Speaker 14 Like, first home game for playing the Clippers, I have to be there just for that energy. You know, like, apparently,

Speaker 14 I haven't been back to Arizona for, you know, a decade now, and it's just, like, legendary status apparently around there for me.

Speaker 14 So I don't know what the fuck is happening, but I need to be there for that game for sure.

Speaker 3 Dude, you are. I don't think you fully realize like how funny that will be when you show up and everyone's just taking pictures with you and shit.
You got to enjoy your moment.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 Yeah. I mean, you get, get a custom jersey made, and it just says on the back, your name will be Suns In, and you're number four.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's fucking brilliant. I love it.
Yes. All right.
Well, go buy the shirts. We're doing it with Nick, so he gets some of the money as well.

Speaker 3 Sons in Four is a lifestyle, and we look forward to being the number one Suns podcast. We'll have you back on when the Suns win the title.
There you go. Although, Blake Griffin, we're checking.

Speaker 3 I get a ring for that, right? What? You get a ring? Yeah. Yeah, you get a ring.

Speaker 6 I'd say you get... Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3 You get as many rings as that guy was wearing watches.

Speaker 3 What was the deal with that, by the way? What was and their haircuts? What was their haircut? Oh, they were rich, big cat.

Speaker 14 No idea. That is not a Denver native that I'm aware of.
So these are hooligans that may be out of state, out of place.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because it's like Denver, you got to be chill, right? Menver. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, you, I mean, you were calling them nugs. I like that.
That's all. That's just a great chill way to refer to the nuggets.

Speaker 3 There you go. Yeah.
Is it true about Menver?

Speaker 14 I'm sorry. What do you mean by Menver?

Speaker 3 Like, there's just a bunch of dudes.

Speaker 14 A lot lot of men yeah so a lot of guys uh i would say in specific uh yeah i mean in some areas like lodo is like all bro there's a called brodo so lower downtown is like all guys pretty much and like a lot of women don't go in that area just because of that i like that brodo we could hang out there yeah

Speaker 3 kings of brodo all right well nick thanks so much man and we'll talk soon Thank you, boys.

Speaker 3 All right. See you.
See you, man.

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Speaker 3 Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got a very special guest in studio.
This is three guests on one show.

Speaker 3 You're on a show with Jay Cutler. Ever heard of him?

Speaker 10 Yes. Big fan.

Speaker 3 He lives down the street from you.

Speaker 10 I want him to come on busting with the boys.

Speaker 3 I can have that with that. And then we had Sons and Four guy.

Speaker 10 Sons and Four?

Speaker 6 The guy that beat up the Denver Nuggets fans.

Speaker 10 Oh, you guys have to be able to do that. Sons and Four.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sons and Four.
Yeah, yeah. Go buy a shirt right now, Barstill Sports.

Speaker 6 Biggest names ever.

Speaker 3 But the biggest name we have is Will Compton.

Speaker 3 Currently, he's figuring it out with what team he wants to sign with next.

Speaker 3 Free agency hasn't started, right?

Speaker 6 Well, I think Will is just, he's in a very good position right now where he has his pick of whichever team he wants to join. Right, that's right.

Speaker 6 So, I mean, if you want to do like a commercial for why you should sign Will Compton, I mean, right off the bat, you're the only player in NFL history with 357 tackles, one sack, two force fumbles, four fumble recoveries, three interceptions, and 12 pass deflections.

Speaker 10 In a podcast.

Speaker 3 In a podcast.

Speaker 10 Hey, I appreciate that, PFT.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you got to put your stats on.

Speaker 6 I think what you should do, Will, we talked about this a couple weeks ago. You should just get as fat as possible because it's very clear that Mike Rabel respects girth and he just respects mass.

Speaker 6 He's just trying to build the biggest football team of all time. So if you put on like 30 pounds, I think he'd be forced to sign you.

Speaker 10 Potentially. I love your guys' view of Coach Vrabel.

Speaker 3 Is it wrong?

Speaker 10 No, it's not wrong. It's just another view.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 He's the best.

Speaker 10 Yeah, there's a thousand ways to skin a cat. And you guys have your view of him, and I love it.

Speaker 3 He's the best. But I love how you think.
He's a guy's guy.

Speaker 10 Like, it's just as easy as putting on 30 pounds and Vrave's going to sign.

Speaker 3 Correct. If I put on 30 pounds, Vrave would probably sign me.

Speaker 10 Last year when he asked if I was ready to go, he asked, Hey, are you in shape or have you eaten too many rib bites? So, if I gain weight,

Speaker 10 I don't know if I'll be going to Tennessee.

Speaker 6 But that's him just like busting balls. He has to have something in the back of his head.
Like, normal guys, we say hi to each other. He's like, What's up, fat ass? Yeah, man.

Speaker 10 There's no question. You guys are not wrong about that one.
He's always got one in the chamber on you.

Speaker 3 How old are you? 31.

Speaker 3 Young, 31.

Speaker 3 Young, 31.

Speaker 3 You're 27.

Speaker 3 You just turned 27. Okay.

Speaker 3 PFT does that, so you can do it. How old are you, PFT? I'm 26.
Yeah. Oh, you're younger than Hank.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 What about the Washington football team? What's the deal there?

Speaker 6 Yeah, bring the boy on.

Speaker 10 Can we not get a reunion going?

Speaker 6 Let's get the boy. You know what? Sometimes you got to go backwards to go forwards.
Go back to where it all started. I agree.

Speaker 3 Are they doing NFL Europe again? I don't know. Are they going to do it?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you could do that.

Speaker 10 Oh, you're talking about go play in the league.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, NFL Europe.

Speaker 10 I'm going to need you to stop disrespecting me. I mean, on the yak, you talked about your practice squad, and now you're like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 I always thought practice squad was a good thing.

Speaker 10 And And then I come on here, you're trying to introduce me.

Speaker 10 I notice. I love getting big-catted, by the way.

Speaker 3 Why? What do I do?

Speaker 10 You know, he's figuring it out.

Speaker 3 And PFP,

Speaker 3 God bless you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's

Speaker 3 great. I hype the boys.
Good cop.

Speaker 6 You got scratched by the cat.

Speaker 3 We got to do it. We got to do it.
All right. No, you are going to get signed on a team.
I actually, we had this conversation. Will and I had a conversation earlier today.

Speaker 3 And this probably says more about my will to compete, but I've always thought practice squad would be sick because like you get paid 100k and you just hang out in sweats and Will even admitted that during when he was on practice squad with Washington football team he didn't even watch the games he just played Grand Theft Auto on Sundays that's sick yeah that's like sounds like a great job it's a solid job what do you mean by your will to compete like like I would be I always watch like if I'm watching a big moment in like a basketball game, right?

Speaker 3 I'm not like, man, I'd love to be out there. Like this would be my moment.
Like, I'd love to be the dude on the bench who's like damn Let's get him next time guys Good try Yeah, you don't have to

Speaker 6 like yeah You're not risking your body on Sundays at least like that's one less day that you have to get injured You're just you know, are you really gonna get noticed if you know you suck at practice for one week?

Speaker 10 Yeah, really?

Speaker 3 Oh, really? So then you are gonna get noticed that sucks that kind of scratches a couple times older Mike Shanahan would

Speaker 10 would recognize me, probably just to keep our heads in it for having to practice like three different positions a day. But yeah,

Speaker 10 you get cut off a bad week of practice squad.

Speaker 3 What I think it goes back to is I've always said that like my dream job would to be working on a MLB coaching staff where I don't really have to do anything. I just kind of hang out with the guys.

Speaker 10 That would be a great life.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just like fucking do a couple, you know, do a little towel whips every now and then, like a couple pranks, like, yo, hey, oh, how's your wife? Like, oh, hey, I'm here for you, buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then you towel whip them in the dick and it's like, ah, just.

Speaker 10 Because even losses, they don't matter as much.

Speaker 10 Right. Like, you have to lose like 16 games in the the MLB to have like one loss in the NFL.

Speaker 3 Right. I think that would be a dream job.
I think I'd do pretty good at it, just being one of the guys in the locker room, but never actually be asked to like perform or come through in any moment.

Speaker 6 What he's describing is basically the job that we have now in media, which is to just like hang out and talk to people and be friendly. But we think that that exact job should occur in every field.

Speaker 6 Correct. In sports, mathematics, science, engineering, you name it.
There should always be a guy that just like hangs out and makes everybody else feel cool about their jobs. Right.

Speaker 10 I do agree with that.

Speaker 3 You do.

Speaker 10 It's essentially a glue guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just hangs out. Just

Speaker 10 in a different way.

Speaker 3 I think I would excel at that.

Speaker 6 And I don't want to put you down, Will, because I do think that you should get signed immediately. Like, just look, when you've gotten into games, you've performed.

Speaker 6 All I see when I'm watching football, when Will Compton's in the game, I mentally circle you when you're on the field and you're always making a play.

Speaker 6 Now you guys don't win anything, but you're still always out there making it.

Speaker 3 Not putting you down. Not putting you down.
No, no, no. This is all.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I think Will Compton, the league is a better place when Will Compton is in it.

Speaker 3 You can't tell the story of football without Will Compton or buses.

Speaker 3 Or buses. Yeah, you're one of the all-time bus guys.
Yeah, I would agree with that. One last thing.
So, you are sitting next to Jake, who is the alpha from our show.

Speaker 10 Trust me, I've felt it since I've said it. That's why I've kept my legs closed.
That's why I've kind of like,

Speaker 10 I was so scared to ask him to adjust the mic, too. I was like, hey, Make Jake.

Speaker 3 Hey, do you play ping pong? Can you please do this for me? Do you not play ping pong?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 3 Okay, good answer. Good answer.

Speaker 10 Tress Way,

Speaker 10 I am on record saying Tress Way is the best ping pong player in the NFL.

Speaker 6 We need to get him in this office.

Speaker 3 Tress Way. Jake versus Twitter.

Speaker 3 Are you the man?

Speaker 3 Are you the big swinging dude?

Speaker 6 He's the best one here, Willie.

Speaker 3 Is that a real question?

Speaker 10 Are you the big-swinging dick in this office?

Speaker 3 Holy shit.

Speaker 6 What a question. I want to see Jake compete against Tress Way.
I want you to dominate the entire NFL, too, Jake.

Speaker 10 So you'd be, yeah, I mean, he's your guy.

Speaker 3 You'd definitely be rooting hard for Jake. Oh, yeah.
Huh? Yes. All that's holy.
Hank has questions. So everyone go download Bustin' with the Boys.
It is Will, Will's Podcast. Do you have a co-host?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What is it? It's Taylor Lewin. Taylor Lewin.
Who said his name wrong?

Speaker 10 And I don't know.

Speaker 10 I think it is tough if you're not.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's Biz. Biz.
We had to give. Remember when Biz was here? He knew you.
He was like, yeah, Will Compton. I'm good friends with him.
And then we're like, who's the other guy? And he's like, Tyler.

Speaker 10 Which is good because Rich Eisen won't say my name when he talks about our podcast. Really?

Speaker 3 He says Taylor wants podcasts. He's from Michigan.
Oh, they have like a little.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they have like a little side hand shake.

Speaker 3 Let's not say that. Let's be real proud of Michigan.
Taylor does a great job as well. So go check it out.
Taylor and Will in the bus, busting with the boys.

Speaker 3 So we asked our people to hit us up and give us questions about being in the NFL or questions about being a boy.

Speaker 3 What was it? Is that right? Did I get that right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So ask the boys question.

Speaker 9 Will, what do you have to say about DaQuan Jones actually causing the fumble against Detroit this year on the one-yard line instead of you? Seems like stolen valor.

Speaker 10 Is that true? That's true. He did? He did.

Speaker 3 You were credited?

Speaker 10 I was credited at first, but they switched it right after the game. They switched it actually during the game.
And DaQuan, listen, I gave him the credit right after the game. I tweeted,

Speaker 10 I gave him the credit. And the next day, he was just upset because he just knew that it would look like I got it, and like everyone on Twitter is just going to make it seem like I did it.

Speaker 10 You're like, I don't know what to do.

Speaker 10 I gave you credit.

Speaker 3 But you should honestly, like, guy to guy here, like, you should start taking credit for more things if you want to stay in the NFL. Like, you should have kept the credit.

Speaker 3 Well, I have the fundamental recovery.

Speaker 10 And the play's right there. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 But did you cost anybody their fantasy game? Like, if somebody had Will Compton start at linebacker, like, your admission that you didn't cause that was

Speaker 6 That's true. I think he would have gotten his face.

Speaker 10 His hand got there right before my head did. My head was still, it was very accurate.

Speaker 3 Accurate head placements.

Speaker 3 If he wasn't there, would you have caused the fumble? Yes. All right, so I believe so.

Speaker 10 He did a great job, though.

Speaker 3 He did a great job. You're taking credit for it.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 My guy, Daquan Jones, awesome player. He's out in Carolina now.
But Daquan, if you're listening to this, which I'm sure you are because everyone listens to this podcast, that is your credited fumble.

Speaker 10 You made that play. I just happened to fall on it.
I was trying to take it 99 to the house, but nobody wanted to block for me.

Speaker 9 Hey, Will, I noted your listed height at UNL as 6'2, while the Titans listed it as 6'1. Are you A, lying, B, a fraud, or C, really under six feet like that height fraud PFT?

Speaker 10 That's just a weird shot. A lot of weird shots in that question.
6'2. Yeah, I'm 6'2.

Speaker 10 Okay. For every coach and GM listening.

Speaker 3 Nice. Is that 6'2?

Speaker 6 No shoes or no shoes?

Speaker 10 I'm 6'2. Right.

Speaker 3 6'2. Good hand.
6'2.

Speaker 3 Who has been your favorite?

Speaker 3 6'2.

Speaker 9 Who has been your favorite coach to play for, and why is it Bo Polini? Also, do you think Frost can turn it around, and how long is it going to take?

Speaker 3 Oh, boy. GBR.
What does GBR mean?

Speaker 3 Go, Big Red. Go, Big Red.
Nebraska.

Speaker 10 Bo Polini. Yeah, Bo is my favorite coach.

Speaker 10 I was going to say I would die for that man, but I wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 10 Bo's the best, dude. Scott Frost, his leash is getting shorter.
We've talked about it.

Speaker 10 I'm rooting for him. I mean, obviously I'm rooting for him, but how can you find a much

Speaker 3 better

Speaker 10 coach for the job than Scott Frost coming out of UCF? What he did at UCF, right?

Speaker 3 Golden, yeah, prodigal son.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's part of the 90s. I know being there, like, Nebraska lives in the 90s championship world.
They want it to be back in the 90s.

Speaker 10 Like, we were 10-4, like, every year, but it was never good enough. Obviously, we had some painful losses.
Big 10 championship game was

Speaker 3 the most.

Speaker 3 Did

Speaker 10 painful.

Speaker 3 Damn. Three running backs.
Also when Melvin had

Speaker 3 like 400 and 250 yards against I was not part of that one. Oh, okay, good.

Speaker 10 Melvin Gordon had over 200, James Whitehead over 200, and

Speaker 10 Monty Ball had over 200.

Speaker 3 It was a bad loss. That was hard to do.

Speaker 10 But Scott, man, like, you got a guy in there that everybody wanted. He is a very good coach.

Speaker 10 It's just tough, man. I think we made a bad move going to the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 I agree with you there.

Speaker 10 Why do you think we did?

Speaker 3 Well, I just think that you have a recruiting base and you kind of lose what you were, and now you have to compete against, you know, Iowa. And,

Speaker 3 you know, there's not a ton of talent in some of those states. There's not a ton of talent within Nebraska.

Speaker 3 Also, I read this really long article that was very good about Nebraska kind of lost their way because they lost their ability to, you know, the 90s Nebraska teams were great because of like the walk-ons and building them up and making them a five-year program and finding the hidden gems within Nebraska.

Speaker 3 And they basically, the whole article was like, look at a guy like Danny Woodhead.

Speaker 3 Like, the fact that Danny Woodhead wasn't like a fifth-year, like, you know, grinded-out star at the University of Nebraska means they kind of lost what they were, what they're at.

Speaker 10 I mean, that's one example.

Speaker 3 I like,

Speaker 10 I under, I like, I see the validity in that, but also it's like the way recruiting is now, like, you can go to a smaller school and be a starter and go to the league now.

Speaker 10 Back then, you're finding Nebraska versus Oklahoma, Michigan, Wisconsin, like all this stuff.

Speaker 3 It was, yeah,

Speaker 3 the crux of it was the coach, the coach, and I'm sure Scott Frost has kind of rectified this a little bit because he's from Nebraska, but the coaches that came after like the 90s, they didn't have the same

Speaker 3 pipeline with the high schools. And it didn't mean as much to be like, it used to be, if you're a kid in Nebraska, you play for Nebraska no matter what.

Speaker 3 And like you go there and you get better and the weightlifting program that might have been a steroids program, whatever, I'm not going to say. Allegedly.
It meant something.

Speaker 3 And they kind of lost their way there. But it's a it's a tough fucking nut to crack for Nebraska to come together.
No doubt.

Speaker 10 I think the recruiting stuff that you were hitting on is where it's at because you have Texas, right?

Speaker 10 Like when we're in the Big 12, you could sit in a kid's living room and tell the parents, you're going to get to watch your kid play two to four times a year.

Speaker 10 I mean, you got Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A ⁇ M. We were all in the Big 12.
And then you'd make the longest trip to Nebraska to maybe see their kid play that extra time a year.

Speaker 10 Now, you don't have that. You're not playing in Texas.
Right. How are you going to get these Texas kids?

Speaker 10 Like their family's not going to, you know, send their kid to Nebraska when that's like the farthest trip for them.

Speaker 10 And now your demographic for recruiting is like the Northeast where why would you go all the way out to Nebraska when you can just stay close and go to like Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan.

Speaker 3 Crushes that. Yeah, right.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 Yeah, even Michigan. Some of these teams that aren't as good still in the Big Ten, but why would you go much farther and go all the way out to Nebraska? So I just feel like we kind of.

Speaker 3 I do love those 90s Nebraska teams. I do want Nebraska to be good again.
I know people don't think I'm being real when I say that, but I think it would be great for.

Speaker 10 We almost got Dougs there last year.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it would be great for college football. It would be fun.

Speaker 10 I do, man. I do miss it.
I wish we were more competitive. Yeah, I think we will be.
I'm still holding out hope.

Speaker 6 There we go. So right now,

Speaker 6 if you pull the escape lever, you go back to the Big 12?

Speaker 3 Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 9 If they could make equivalent money in some other job, how many players do you think would still choose to play in the NFL?

Speaker 3 Just thinking of Taylor Luan getting paid $20 million a year to be a used car salesman.

Speaker 6 Or

Speaker 6 Aaron Rodgers quitting to start a blowjob podcast and go to Spotify.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, I would assume that a lot of players would not play in the NFL.

Speaker 3 Would you?

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 6 You don't love football?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me back you up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like

Speaker 3 that world. 6'2.

Speaker 3 I do it for free.

Speaker 10 I mean, if you could,

Speaker 10 yeah, I mean, if you made the same amount of money doing whatever you wanted to do, like, you would, I would retire from football sooner because I would still play football. I love football.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah,

Speaker 6 you love playing games. That's what you got to say.
Like, I love being out there on Sundays.

Speaker 10 Practice is a great competitor, man. Yes.
Love being a lunch pail guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Will love watching you play for Washington. I always wanted to know this answer from

Speaker 3 this player's perspective.

Speaker 9 Back in the Bruce Allen, Washington days, did you believe the culture was damn good? Or was Bruce Allen mental for saying that? I'd love to hear PFT's input on this from a fan's perspective as well.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, sure, you can watch that clip when he says the culture is damn good, but our culture wasn't damn good. It just is, I mean, it just is what it is.
It wasn't that great. You know,

Speaker 10 top floor, bottom floor, all of it, it wasn't, you know. It wasn't that good.
People have read stories. People see all the illegal stuff going on right now.

Speaker 10 Where there's smoke, there's fire, and it wasn't the best culture.

Speaker 6 That's pretty much from a a fan perspective. Like, yeah, Dan Snyder, as long as he's in charge, it's going to be tough because he has to stay out of his own way, and he's not really able to do that.

Speaker 6 And when Bruce Allen was there, it was like, he was basically a puppy on Dan Snyder's lap and would do whatever he told him. Same thing with Vinny Serrato.
Dan Snyder, like, attracts guys like that.

Speaker 6 I think the new regime in Washington is a lot better. I think that they have changed a lot of stuff around.
I just don't know.

Speaker 6 Like, it's just a matter of time before Snyder, he's like, he can't stay away. He can't stay out of his own way for that long.

Speaker 9 Well, if if you were a player on the Washington football team, wouldn't it piss you off that you didn't have a mascot?

Speaker 3 Hmm.

Speaker 10 If I was what?

Speaker 3 Follow-up.

Speaker 9 Yeah, this is a follow-up. Also, P.S., if you were on the Washington football team, wouldn't it bother you as a player that you don't have a mascot and you're just a football team?

Speaker 3 Not really. Yeah.
I mean, come on, Hank. Yeah, come on, Hank.

Speaker 6 We're a football team. We play football.
I think it's actually a lot of people.

Speaker 10 So this is a good little story here. I don't know if my fiancé minds me telling this or not, but we actually had a PI show up at our house not too long ago on behalf of Dan.

Speaker 3 Why? Yeah.

Speaker 10 All the stuff going on. Charlie, my fiancé, she was a cheerleader.

Speaker 10 So all this stuff that was coming out on watching the football team, cheerleaders, how they've kind of cleaned house and a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 3 Was that how you met her? You were a player?

Speaker 6 Yeah. And she was a cheerleader? Isn't that against the law?

Speaker 10 It's against the rules.

Speaker 10 Not for the player. It is for the cheerleader.
But we didn't date while she was a cheerleader.

Speaker 6 Gotcha.

Speaker 10 She was on the other side of it.

Speaker 10 So it sounds like Dan Snyder was smart to hire a pi after your ass well the the the belief is i i love the i love the little joke right there but the belief is like all the stuff that they're coming after dan for with all the uh cheerleader stuff um

Speaker 10 from what i hear rumor all speculation all alleged this is incredible that um it was bruce coming after him

Speaker 10 so now he's trying to you know he's wanting to come after dan's wanting to come after bruce sends a pi now that's all speculation Sounds like a great culture.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so

Speaker 6 basically what Bruce Allen has been doing for the last couple years, he's like starting blogs over in India, publishing his own accusations against Dan Snyder, like throwing the worst possible allegations at him, like he was flying on Epstein's plane and things like that.

Speaker 6 But it's Bruce Allen, he like started a blog and he's trying to fuck Dan Snyder over. Basically, it's not the sign of a team that had good culture when they were working together.

Speaker 6 If after they split up, you've got one accusing the other of being a pedophile.

Speaker 6 That's a

Speaker 6 pretty key moment. And just basically, the Washington football team is like succession.
Hey, it's like the world's dumbest episode of succession.

Speaker 3 Quick, Pat.

Speaker 10 That's a great show, by the way.

Speaker 3 Pat, in this room, we all work together. If any of us ever leaves, we promise not to call each other pedophiles.
No,

Speaker 10 no, what? Never.

Speaker 6 I'm never going to call anybody in this room.

Speaker 10 So, you say yeah to the promise. I do say are you promising that I would never call you guys pedophiles? Yeah, I don't know, man.

Speaker 6 There's wow,

Speaker 3 statistically takes one to know one.

Speaker 3 That's where you wanted to go with that?

Speaker 3 No, that's just where we ended up.

Speaker 3 I never know where I'm going with anything. He said, wow.

Speaker 10 I mean, I don't know everybody in here like that. Wow.

Speaker 6 But to wrap things up, you would go back to the Washington football team if they gave you a contract, right?

Speaker 3 Oh, absolutely. Undercover.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Money's still great.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 And I mean,

Speaker 10 I love that locker room. Obviously, it's not the same locker room, but yeah, I mean.

Speaker 10 There's a lot of moving parts in an organization to make a culture bad.

Speaker 3 But yeah, absolutely, I would play for the boys again.

Speaker 9 All All right, last one.

Speaker 9 Will, what would your reaction be if hypothetically PFT was the kicker while you were on the Titans, but double-doinked a 30-yard yarder, usually in his wheelhouse, to lose a game?

Speaker 9 Do kickers who lost the game get bullied in a locker room? And if so, who's the most brutal towards them?

Speaker 3 Ooh, good question.

Speaker 6 I'll just say, like, right off the bat, if that were to ever happen, you can kill me. Like, just kill him.
PFT's not going to locker room.

Speaker 3 He's walking straight to his car.

Speaker 6 You can just

Speaker 6 execute me. That's an extreme.

Speaker 10 That's extreme. You're not allowed to say that on YouTube.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So you're saying like just

Speaker 10 missing a game-winning kick.

Speaker 6 Sounds like a double point.

Speaker 3 You wouldn't want death. Double point.
Yeah. Ever heard of it?

Speaker 6 Well, I know it's never going to happen. This is one of the times where I can actually make a promise, knowing that I'll never have to fulfill it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 10 it'd be tough.

Speaker 9 But does the kicker get chirped in the locker room?

Speaker 10 Yeah. No, not really.
But the kicker knows. He knows based off the vibe.
Like

Speaker 10 Dustin Hopkins. We were in London one year, and we tied, and he missed an easy kick, dude.
i mean we should have won that game you might remember um

Speaker 10 and it was like you didn't know whether like should we be happy i mean we didn't really lose the game the kicker pretty much missed missed the easy kick and uh

Speaker 10 you know he the kickers those dudes beat themselves up heavy so you don't want to add on to it yeah you know they feel it like of course you're mad but you're also thinking about the plays you probably could have made i know that's a way more of a political answer than probably what the the listeners would want but like you know you're thinking about plays you miss as as well.

Speaker 10 And, you know, the whole spiel where it's a team game, not one play wins or loses the game.

Speaker 3 Does anyone make a joke? Because, like, as glue guy, guy hanging out in the locker room, I would come in after, you know, knowing I'm not playing. I'm just part of the coaching staff.

Speaker 3 I'd wait a nice beat of silence and be like, sick kick, bro. And then that breaks the ice.
Everyone's like, ha ha. Yeah, we did lose the kicker.

Speaker 10 The kicker's still ready to, you know, do a PFT talk about like off himself. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Well, what about that, was it a Monday night game?

Speaker 10 You kind of give a nice little ass love. Hey, it's tough, man.
You know, keep your head off.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You get another chance.
Are you step over him? Probably not.

Speaker 6 You step over him to offer him a hand up off the ground as you're stepping over him.

Speaker 3 Yeah. That sort of thing.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.
So

Speaker 6 what about that Monday night game? Didn't the kicker miss like four field goals?

Speaker 10 Which Monday night game? Was it this year?

Speaker 3 Oh, the Titans kicker, remember? The Titans kicker, yeah.

Speaker 3 When was it Gestowski? Yeah, Gestowski. No, he kept on missing the short ones and hitting the long ones.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but boys, look, we all know what happens when you play football for a while.

Speaker 3 Right. You lose a little, you lose a little savvy up top.
Oh, okay. So you don't.

Speaker 10 I can't remember what game you're talking about. I know there was a game where he missed one.

Speaker 10 A couple of us hugged him, and he ends up making the game winner. Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 So, your numbers, we're doing lottery numbers to end the show. You want to pick one? 52.

Speaker 3 Do I get up?

Speaker 6 Let me put these no. No, just pick a number.
Let me put these back in so everything's in.

Speaker 6 Six.

Speaker 6 18.

Speaker 7 Garrett, you want to pick a number?

Speaker 3 26.

Speaker 6 26. 26.
What's your number? Pick a number.

Speaker 3 51.

Speaker 6 51. 56.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Is that your number? 51.

Speaker 6 You guys start calling yourself Area 51. It's no fly zone across the middle.
Hey, buddy.

Speaker 10 All right, 99. I don't have that kind of confidence.

Speaker 3 46.

Speaker 3 Hank's favorite number.

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