JB Smoove, Draft Lingo With Steven Cheah, Plus Listener FAQ’s

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Kyle Shanahan wants to kill us all and we give some final thoughts on the NFL Draft before round 1( 2:57 - 20:09). Big Cat is in a fight against a mascot (20:09 - 23:48). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including aggregators and masks (23:48 - 43:11). JB Smoove joins the show to talk about his new podcast, curb your enthusiasm’s newest season taping right now and more( 43:11 - 67:53). Steven Cheah joins the show to talk about his favorite draft memories, best mock drafters, and the draft of draft lingo (67:53 - 107:32). We finish with some great listener FAQ’s


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Speaker 4 the senior draft analyst at Barstool Sports. Very funny with Stephen Shea.
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Speaker 4 April 28th.

Speaker 4 And I I can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive on Sunday. So I can't guarantee who will be on our roster on Sunday.
That is Kyle Shanahan threatening the entire world

Speaker 4 with, I don't know, was it Asteroid? How's he going to kill everyone?

Speaker 5 Well, he was definitely threatening Jimmy Garoppolo. First thing I thought, the way that he phrased it, which, I mean, it was the easiest question to answer.

Speaker 5 By not, all he had to do was not imply that he was going to kill his starting quarterback. Yes.
And it would have been fine, but then he was like, Jimmy Garoppolo might not even be alive.

Speaker 4 None of us might be alive.

Speaker 5 It sounds like a threat.

Speaker 4 It's a threat to all of us.

Speaker 5 But especially to Jimmy. I actually scheduled a tweet.
I think it's going out Sunday morning

Speaker 5 just to tweet at Jimmy Garoppolo to make sure that he's still alive.

Speaker 4 You good, bro? You good?

Speaker 5 You okay? You alive?

Speaker 5 He's saying essentially, like, it'd be a real shame if something were to happen to Jimmy before Sunday. So I can't guarantee that.
Like, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 5 If you're a police officer and you hear Kyle Shanahan say that, and then Jimmy Garoppolo, heaven forbid, somehow dies before Sunday, who's the first call you're going to be making? It's Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 4 It's Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 5 It's also first to thank him for his support.

Speaker 4 And John Lynch.

Speaker 5 Yeah, then Kyle Shanahan straight up be like, hey, where were you? Do you have an alibi going on? Yes. He's probably going to kill him.

Speaker 4 It's the most

Speaker 4 like football guy answer to just not be able to answer something straight up and instead making it way, way bigger and be like, hey, listen, guys, we're in a pandemic.

Speaker 4 In this economy, who can guarantee anything? Who knows what a roster is anymore? It's not.

Speaker 4 What even is a roster? roster is a construct by the NFL.

Speaker 5 He's like, this could be a simulation that we're all in.

Speaker 4 Or the matrix.

Speaker 5 Is anybody alive?

Speaker 4 Imagine if Kyle Shanahan at his next press conference just brought out the red and blue pill and was like, you choose whether you want Jimmy Garoppolo on the Niners.

Speaker 4 I also, this is the end for Jimmy Garoppolo. I think we all can agree.

Speaker 4 We always joke about the vote of confidence that a coach will get, and that usually means the end. Or when a coach says,

Speaker 4 these are my guys. I'm not looking for another job.
That usually means they're looking for another job.

Speaker 4 Jimmy Garoppolo got the worst possible compliment from Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch during their press conference. John Lynch said that he has been a pro.

Speaker 4 Jimmy's been a pro. And he said he really has.
I just spoke to him over the weekend. He's here.
He's taking part in our virtual meetings, plans on

Speaker 4 being at the workouts. Jimmy's been completely professional, as he always has been with us.
That is such a bare minimum thing to compliment a guy being like, listen, he showed up.

Speaker 4 He was at work and he has not complained yet. And that's really where the compliments end.

Speaker 5 When you say somebody's a pro as a head coach, it just means that they've accepted their benching like a man. That's the direct translation of what that means.

Speaker 5 You'll never hear, like after a quarterback goes out and throws for six touchdowns and 400 yards, talk about how Pat Mahomes played out there, Coach Reed.

Speaker 5 Well, you know, Patrick, he's he was a pro out there today. No, it's never that.
It's usually like Alex Smith getting benched for Patrick Mahomes. Describe how Alex Smith is in the QB room.

Speaker 5 He's a pro.

Speaker 4 Rarely, though, you could get he's a pros pro, and then he actually might be good. A pros pro, but a pro, yeah, a pro is, I mean, it's just state, they're just stating facts.

Speaker 4 Everyone could die on Sunday, and technically, by the letter of the law, Jimmy Garoppolo is a professional football player.

Speaker 5 A pros pro is what you say to a borderline holiday. You say to Julian Edelman after he retires, if you're Peter King.
Yeah, or he's been a pro because he picked up my phone calls and he was tough.

Speaker 4 It's a pros pro is synonymous with as good of a player as he was, he's an even better person. They don't usually say that for like incredible players.
Right. Right.

Speaker 4 Because it's really hard to be an incredible human being.

Speaker 5 The headline you can take away from this is Kyle Shanahan essentially said, Jimmy Garoppolo is still alive right now, to the best of my knowledge. Yes.
That's all you can take away from it.

Speaker 5 Also, just a big just chill out, man, to the entire 49ers front office, because John Lynch also said the 49ers have attended 176 college games and practices, conducted 400 Zoom calls, interviewed 600 players, and attended 128 separate pro days to come to these decisions.

Speaker 4 You know what that is. That's a little getting in front of it.

Speaker 4 That's what Billy's been doing this week with his who's back and his hot seat, cool throw, just throwing some stats out there to help his recipe.

Speaker 5 That's just straight up. We put the hours in.

Speaker 5 That's if you're a salesperson and you know that you're going to miss your quota, you just dial every number, even the ones that you know are not in service anymore.

Speaker 5 So they show up on your call log like, look, I'm actually putting the time into this. Yes.
They're afraid that they're going to make the wrong decision, I think.

Speaker 5 And also, Kyle, I think Kyle Shanahan specifically is maybe the least chill Kyle on the planet.

Speaker 4 Yes. Well, Kyles, in general, aren't very chill.
They're more aggro. They're aggro? Yeah, they drink monster energy and they fucking punch holes through walls.

Speaker 5 I would go chill power rankings for Kyle in this draft specifically.

Speaker 5 Kyle Pitts, Kyle Trask, and then Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 4 Kyle Trask is pretty chill. I mean, anytime you can just rock that goatee or whatever, the chin strap, and think that it works, you got a chill level to you.

Speaker 4 Did you see also Jerry Jones said that his visions of sugar he has visions of sugar plums, picturing Kyle Pitts with Dak Prescott?

Speaker 5 I mean, that's good. That's better than Gloria Holes.

Speaker 4 He's just finding a new way to be horny and describe it. Sugar plums? Yeah.

Speaker 5 You think sugar plums is a bonkable statement?

Speaker 4 I think it's like it wasn't in Kenny Powers, like my plums, I can feel it in my plums. That's what I immediately went to.
Okay. He can feel it in his plums.

Speaker 5 I just see, I hear sugar plums. I think Jerry Jones actually is old enough where he's heard every single innuendo for every single part in human anatomy.

Speaker 4 Sugar plums might have just been currency when he was growing up.

Speaker 5 Right. He might throw it back and like start talking about a prospect's gams instead of their legs.

Speaker 4 Right. He was like, oh, you want a candy bar? All right.
Well, that will be three sugar plums. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I just immediately did think of the Ashley Schaefer when he was like, I can feel it in my plums. That's what I figured Jerry Jones was alluding to.

Speaker 4 The draft, though, finally is going to be here. We're excited for it.
It does feel like we've picked apart every player a million different ways.

Speaker 4 Justin Fields now, according to even at least Chris Sims, is now the 32nd pick, which I think Justin Fields is going to be our new everyone

Speaker 4 gets mad about wherever he lands. Like, if he gets picked third, people are like, that's way too high.
And if he gets picked 30th, people are like, that is such disrespect. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I don't think there's any, like, no matter what, people are going going to be mad about Justin Fields.

Speaker 5 I don't think he's going to go 30-second. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 5 I'll stand on the table. I will say, I will give Chris Sims my spleen if he gets picked 30 seconds away.

Speaker 4 Exactly 30 seconds. What about lower?

Speaker 5 I think you've got to give a later.

Speaker 4 30 seconds or lower. Lower, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, my spleen.

Speaker 4 Please, God, please, God, have Justin Fields with a fucking bong mask going on on

Speaker 4 the map.

Speaker 5 There's one stipulation. He has to still be alive.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So without anything that's nothing for certain.

Speaker 5 So if he's still alive on Thursday, then yes, if you go alive.

Speaker 4 But Chris Sims has to be alive? Both. Both.

Speaker 5 I'm not giving a dead body. Yeah,

Speaker 4 that's fair.

Speaker 5 But yeah, if it's 30 seconds or lower, Chris, my spleen is yours. It's probably in pretty poor condition.
Your spleen, Chris, is probably better than my spleen.

Speaker 4 How many spleens do you have? Two?

Speaker 5 You got one. Just the one.

Speaker 4 He's got none.

Speaker 5 You don't really need one. He has none.
It's like your second ball.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure it keeps you not sick. Your spleen does? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, being around Chris, he's said like his immune system is not great.

Speaker 5 Okay, well, what's mine is yours, yours, Chris, if that does happen. He's not going 32nd.
He's probably going to go top 10.

Speaker 4 Okay, but maybe he will go 30 seconds. Because

Speaker 5 you know that after Mac Jones gets drafted, after Trey Lance goes off the board, a team is going to move up to whatever that pick is because they're going to panic. Maybe even the Bears.

Speaker 5 Maybe even the Patriots.

Speaker 4 There is talk about that, Hank. Have you thought about your future quarterback possibly coming in the first round of this draft? Yeah, I mean, there's rumors.

Speaker 6 There's always rumors. We'll see.
We'll see what happens Thursday, though.

Speaker 6 I feel like they're not going to do it.

Speaker 4 All this smoke smoke for nothing?

Speaker 6 I feel like when it comes to the draft, there's always smoke. There's always, always, always like, this might happen, this might happen, and then usually nothing crazy that happens.

Speaker 6 But if they trade up, they're obviously taking a quarterback, and then I'll be hyped.

Speaker 4 It feels like a situation where the Patriots would have all this smoke, not trade up, but then the Bears would trade like 17 first-round picks to trade up. Yeah.
And then fuck themselves.

Speaker 5 Hank, what do you think about this? Would you rather have Jimmy Garoppolo again for

Speaker 5 let's call it a fifth-round pick or a trade-up, give up next year's first, this year's first, and maybe a second, and take Justin Fields?

Speaker 6 I would like Justin Fields. There's old clips circulating.

Speaker 6 I'm sure you'll see it like a million times of Cam Newton and Justin Fields at like a camp back in the day when Justin Fields was in high school, and Cam Newton's like, this is the best quarterback.

Speaker 6 He's my guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it would be a good narrative to have draft Justin Fields.
Cam Newton obviously likes him. He can, you know, learn from him and then be the guy.

Speaker 5 Was he the kid that was like, you suck, Cam? And Cam was like, I'm rich?

Speaker 6 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 It was like Justin Fields is doing an interview, and then Cam butts his head and it's like, this is the best quarterback.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 that would be cool.

Speaker 6 I would definitely be, you know, I'd be pulling for that storyline.

Speaker 5 The other data to break down, this just came out today. I happened to see it this morning.

Speaker 5 Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields all have bowls at Chipotle

Speaker 5 that they put their names on. Nice.
So Trey Lance's is steak, brown rice, black beans, tomato salsa, tomatillo salsa, lettuce, and guacamole.

Speaker 5 Zach Wilson's is chicken, white rice, nervous bird, tomatillo, nervous bird, alert, energy larbaugh.

Speaker 5 You don't eat chicken.

Speaker 5 You're going to become a chicken. Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 You eat chicken, Dandrew Luck. You know where he is? Not playing football.

Speaker 5 Check this out, though. Justin Fields, sofritas, brown rice, fajita veggies, romaine, and guacamole.
That's the vegan option that they have there.

Speaker 5 So a take that I'm kind of squatting on, because I haven't heard anybody say it. I don't actually believe this, but it'd be cool to hear somebody say it, and I feel like it might be coming.

Speaker 5 Just saying that Justin Fields is the best football player in this draft, but he's the fifth best quarterback.

Speaker 4 I like that. Most important player.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Billy, what do you think in terms of the Chipotle orders? That's kind of like right up your

Speaker 4 quarterbacks ordering Chipotle.

Speaker 5 The only thing is Justin Fields with the vegetarianism, he's pretty, you know, durable, and that would be the only question of a man made up of plant proteins.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 True.

Speaker 8 Is vegetarianism a word?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
yeah.

Speaker 4 Joe Biden probably loves him, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Someone pointed out to me yesterday,

Speaker 4 we've been doing this show for so long. I think

Speaker 4 I actually believe the long hair quarterback thing, but someone pointed out, like, are you guys just coward now? Yeah. I was like, absolutely.
Fuck. Yeah, maybe on this one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, well, long hair and then visors.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Those are the two things. Shit.
Honestly, like, there are certain takes you go back in life and you wish that you had come up with first. The backwards hat one is absolutely a take.

Speaker 4 I wish that. It's so funny, too, to look at, like, just all the quarterbacks that have worn backwards hats and all the Super Bowls they've won.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, every single one of them.

Speaker 4 You can find so many backwards hat pictures of Brady, of Rodgers, of Roethlisberger, all of them.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Not the askew hat, not the hat that goes off to the side.
Yeah. But yeah, the backwards hat.

Speaker 4 Pedro Strope. Remember when Bob Casas had a stroke? Because Pedro Strope didn't wear his fucking hat

Speaker 4 correctly? Straightforward.

Speaker 5 They'll hold the Dontre Willis off to the side.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we should just throw a shout out to Bob Casas. I know he's probably still struggling with the fact that the NFL has not ceased to exist.

Speaker 4 Remember when he wrote that whole thing, like it was a nightmare to have to cover the league?

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's been going through it. And I think he gave it, didn't he give a speech at halftime of the Monday Night Football game about how he refuses to support the NFL?

Speaker 4 It's so against all these paychecks that I've been making, all these millions of dollars. It just hurts me so much because the NFL is so terrible.

Speaker 5 he probably just closes his eye or his good eye when he's at a football game just imagines it's baseball yeah yeah shout out bob cock i do i do like the fact that mac jones doesn't have a chipotle bowl wait i have a question mac jones um where did his second dui come from

Speaker 4 wait he has two duis no i think that's just an internet rumor but everyone says he has two duis does he have one yeah he has one if you have two then you don't have one yeah you know he officially has one there's a mug shot of it but like he just got screwed just getting a second second one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I made up. I have no idea.
I didn't even think that they gave you DUIs in Alabama.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no matter how drunk you have to be from. I think he got it in high school, maybe.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's got a little, listen, if you want to do the coward take, like, he, I like my quarterbacks when they get a mug shot to not have a little cry in their eyes. Oh, he has sad in it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, look it up. He didn't stand up.
He's got a tiny bit of cry in his eyes.

Speaker 4 So I'm saying bust just on that. Just based on that.
Does he have two?

Speaker 5 I think it was Red Shirt Freshman Year.

Speaker 4 Okay, does he Jake's fact-check that for me? I think he only has one, but the internet, like if you search on Twitter,

Speaker 4 second two DUIs, Mac Jones has so many people saying he has two.

Speaker 4 That's also a sign of the draft has come too late. We should have had it two weeks ago because then you keep going.

Speaker 4 Like, if we went all the way till June, half the guys in the first round are convicted murderers.

Speaker 5 I'm not seeing anything about the second DUI. I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 If you look, though, people claim him to have one, yeah.

Speaker 5 One from 2017.

Speaker 4 Did you see the cry in his eye? Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's got got cry in his eye. He does, yeah.

Speaker 4 You can't have cry in your eye.

Speaker 4 You have to know that you're getting a mug shot.

Speaker 5 You can't cry in your eye. The NFL, you got to take shots sometimes.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You can't remember.
Wait. He does?

Speaker 5 I think he gave the cop a fake ID, too.

Speaker 4 So he's a fraud.

Speaker 4 So he's got bad decision making, too.

Speaker 4 Uh-oh. Shouldn't have threw that.
Uh-oh. I think we just moved him down.
And Kyle Shanahan wants this guy?

Speaker 5 Kyle Shanahan really wants it. Well,

Speaker 5 you don't know. This could be like the biggest psych out of all time.

Speaker 4 It would be incredible.

Speaker 4 If Mac Jones ended up being a second rounder? Yeah. And I had to talk myself into him? Yeah.
McCorkley.

Speaker 5 If Mac Jones, if it was just like a big, if it was a big punk, if we're all in punk right now and like all the competent general managers were just gassing him up, hoping that somebody would be dumb enough to trade, hoping that Ryan Pace would be dumb enough to trade up for him.

Speaker 4 I do think Mac Jones gives off the vibe that enough people clown on him on Twitter and like the internet and say he sucks, then I think he'll be really good.

Speaker 5 I was about to say he gives off. What's happening with Mac Jones right now is a lot, it's very similar to what happened with Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 Right, a few years ago. Enough people decide he sucks.

Speaker 4 No way.

Speaker 5 Everybody that I know that has never played or coached football knows that Mac Jones sucks. Right.
And a lot of people that have coached football and played football think he's pretty good.

Speaker 4 When you get a

Speaker 4 draft like consensus pre-draft about a guy just being a total bust, rarely does he end up being a total bust.

Speaker 5 Here's what I'll say about Mac Jones.

Speaker 5 Mac Jones is the best backup quarterback in this draft at the next level. He projects to be a top-tier long-term backup, which begs the question.

Speaker 4 I don't want my backups crying either.

Speaker 5 It begs the question.

Speaker 4 Third stringers can cry.

Speaker 5 How much would a guaranteed 10-year backup quarterback that goes 500 when he gets in?

Speaker 5 What would you use in terms of draft capital to take that player?

Speaker 4 Is that a third-rounder?

Speaker 4 Career backup. Every time he gets...
So what's so he gets into what, 10 games in his 10 years and he goes 5-5? More than that.

Speaker 5 I'd say he gets into 15 to 20 games

Speaker 5 in the course of 10 years. And where does he go? Well, now I'm trying to do the schedule math with the different, the fucking 70s.

Speaker 4 Let's say he goes 12 and 8 in 20 games.

Speaker 5 That's a second rounder.

Speaker 4 I'd say that's like a third or fourth.

Speaker 5 How many stand-in playoff games?

Speaker 4 One half.

Speaker 4 One half. He keeps them afloat for one half.

Speaker 4 But then the starter comes back in and loses it. So you didn't win that playoff game.

Speaker 5 But then with that next draft pick, you draft a better starter because you were one spot earlier.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Billy's doing fourth.

Speaker 5 Yeah. What is the Jimmy Johnson draft chart?

Speaker 4 Figure that out.

Speaker 4 All right, let's get to our hot seat cool thrones. Did you find the second DUI, Jake? No, it doesn't exist, right? I don't see anything.
If you look, though,

Speaker 4 people have just given it to him.

Speaker 4 It sucks. I think it's because the mug shot is, he is crying so hard.
I think it's post-cry.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's post-cry i think they i think the cop was like hey dude you're about to take a mug shot you're an alabama football player like why don't you clean yourself up real quick yeah he just he doesn't even the problem is in the mug shot he looks like a bad quarterback right not even the crazy right very skinny he's got he looks like a fan of alabama football right right also remember his dui is a minor which has much lower bac limits ah good point billy always standing up for people who drink and drive no no i'm not that fine no we're glad that we have that we have that perspective on the podcast.

Speaker 4 You covered that for us.

Speaker 5 You're both sides. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, wait. Any other things in...
Oh, I fucking hate Blooper, the mascot for the Braves. I mean, fuck that bitch.

Speaker 5 Blooper came at us pretty hard last night.

Speaker 4 Dude, he's a Philly fanatic wannabe. And you know what I realized?

Speaker 4 I'm going to have to go back to war with Blooper tonight. What did he do?

Speaker 4 He was just sitting on the dugout

Speaker 4 right before the last out, just hanging out. And I tweeted.
I was like, fuck this fuckface, Blooper.

Speaker 4 And then he tweeted at us, and he tweeted a picture that looked like Blooper was me, fat me, and then PFT, a guy with long hair and glasses next to him.

Speaker 4 And I realized that when you go after a mascot, it's a 0% chance you can win.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's like you're boxing a clown.

Speaker 4 Because everyone comes. If Blooper just responds, everyone's like, oh, roasted.

Speaker 4 But guess what? I'm going to win.

Speaker 5 The only person. I'm going to beat Bloop.

Speaker 4 I think you've already lost. No, I'm going to beat him.
I'm going to beat him.

Speaker 5 To this day, the only person that's ever looked cool getting into a fight with a mascot is Tommy Lasorda. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because he beat the shit out of him. So I'm going to.

Speaker 5 You have to actually, you have to

Speaker 5 challenge him to rough.

Speaker 4 I probably am breathing some of the air that Tommy Lasorda beats.

Speaker 4 It's funny. It's not that bad.
Yeah, but I don't like him. He's a fucking Philly fanatic wannabe bitch.

Speaker 6 No, because he's got the mustache on. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So it's big cat. Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 6 And the guy next to him has got long hair.

Speaker 4 But it's a long red hair with a ball. They literally made Philly fanatic.
They made a Philly fanatic.

Speaker 4 I don't like this guy. No, fuck him.
Blooper. And also,

Speaker 4 no, fuck it. Why would you have your mascot be Blooper?

Speaker 5 Real teams don't need mascots.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 Oh, you know. What?

Speaker 5 It's problematic. Tom Hawk Chop.

Speaker 4 No, I know, but we don't think that. Blooper's a bad thing.

Speaker 5 Appropriating podcast culture is equally problematic.

Speaker 4 Like, Dinger should be the name of the mascot.

Speaker 5 Or just hot. The freeze.
They have the best mascot in the world. The guy that runs around the outfield.

Speaker 4 Is that guy in the Olympics? He should be. He absolutely should be.

Speaker 9 I'm like, how is he not in the on our relay team it's disgusting yeah um all right yeah but blooper i'll see you tonight uh all right let's get to hot seat cool throne hot seat cool throne is brought to you by our friends at when cool creamy ranch meets tangy bold buffalo the hole is greater than the sum of its sauce say howdy partner to new buffalo ranch sauce only at mcdonald's for a limited time at participating mcdonald's okay hank hot seat cool throne i got a couple hot seats My first one is Elon Musk.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 6 Sold a bunch of his Bitcoin. People are mad at him for that.
And even worse, he tweeted that he was going to be the host of SNL. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then the SNL cast is like internally revolting, bitching and moaning about him hosting the show because he's so rich, apparently.

Speaker 4 I don't get that at all.

Speaker 6 Me neither.

Speaker 5 I don't get why he's hosting. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't get why, like...

Speaker 4 The castle is a little bit more.

Speaker 6 But that's where the cast draws the line. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, of all the hosts.

Speaker 6 For the cast to draw the line and be like, oh, Elon Musk is too rich.

Speaker 5 They might be mad because he's not funny.

Speaker 6 He is kind of funny. Is he?

Speaker 5 Smoked weed on Joe Rogan.

Speaker 4 I also

Speaker 4 hilarious.

Speaker 5 You're right. Good point.

Speaker 4 I also feel like.

Speaker 6 Doge. I mean, you're a Doge guy, PFT.
I mean, you kind of owe him.

Speaker 8 I probably do owe him.

Speaker 5 I'm just excited. I like to think maybe he personally selected Miley Cyrus as the musical guest.
In which case, hats off to you, sir.

Speaker 5 You're going to need a bigger stick for me on Saturday night.

Speaker 4 I don't. So is he going to still do it? Or have they effectively kicked him off?

Speaker 4 I I'm sure he's if I were Elon Musk I don't think the SNL care I'm sure SNL wants the ratings they're gonna get from Elon Musk more than like their fucking cast members being like man if I were Elon Musk I would just show up and every sketch would just be like a Tesla or the Super Truck ad I just be like this is what's funny to me yeah fuck you guys he does have a weird laugh like if you don't like it I'll fire all of you and then buy SNL and then end SNL you think I'm too rich I'll fucking buy NBC and I'll blow the whole thing up he does have by definition fuck you money.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So

Speaker 5 he could show up tomorrow and just like buy SNL from Lord Michaels. And they'd be like, fine.
You know what he should do?

Speaker 5 He should just, in each sketch, bring out a different suitcase filled with like $2 million. Yes.
And just light it on fire.

Speaker 4 Yes. Or he should hire, he should do a casting call right now and find the perfect doppelganger for every single SNL cast member currently and just bring his own cast.

Speaker 4 And just be like, you guys just stand on the back and they all kind of suck, but it would be funny because they suck. Yep.

Speaker 5 but either way, guys, these are all things that you can do when you have that much. He seriously could do whatever he wants.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I also don't understand what SNL, like SNL gets. I know it's an institution.
I know that it's been around forever. There's been so many funny people who have come through there.

Speaker 4 I love Kyle Mooney. I love Beck Bennett.
Like, there's still some funny cast members, Keenan, all those guys.

Speaker 4 And Kristen, I miss Kristen Wick. I'll just say that right now.
That's not a bonk. I just think she's one of the funniest women ever.

Speaker 4 I don't know why SNL, like,

Speaker 4 why do we give them so much time and

Speaker 4 like our collective do they live rent-free in our heads? In America's head, yes, I think they do.

Speaker 5 Rent-free, like, it's not such a big deal.

Speaker 4 It's like, it's, do people still watch SNL like they used to? I, I still, if I see a sketch, I'd be like, oh, that's funny. I like it.
I'm not saying I'm funnier than them.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying it doesn't have the cultural relevance that it did 10, 15, 20, 30 years ago.

Speaker 5 Right, because old people still remember it as being like the one, it's the water cooler conversation that you have on Monday morning.

Speaker 5 You see s and l but i don't know anybody that actually watches it we need to occasionally if here's my here's my limit if i see somebody put the same s and l skit on my timeline five times yeah i'll watch it the fifth time it's and it's usually the the shit like i said kyle mooney at the end when they cut that that's usually the funniest stuff but uh i just i think we give too much i think we let snl dictate the conversation too much they're the skip and stephen a of

Speaker 6 comedy yes yes exactly everyone talks about it but no one actually really like spends time to watch the show.

Speaker 4 Yes, perfect analogy, Hank.

Speaker 6 My other hot seat is Citizen Kane. Did you guys see this? Did you hear about this? The movie? The movie.
Classic. Everyone says it's the best movie of all time.

Speaker 4 It's such a default, like, oh, what's the best movie?

Speaker 6 Citizen Kane. Not anymore.
Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 6 Someone that works at Rotten Tomatoes found an 80-year-old review,

Speaker 6 a negative review about Citizen Kane.

Speaker 6 They put it in the Rotten Tomatoes, whatever, like system, and now it's a 99 on Rotten Tomatoes, not 100. Paddington 2 is 100.

Speaker 6 So Citizens Kane, by Rotten Tomatoes metrics, no longer the best movie of all time.

Speaker 5 Second best movie of all time.

Speaker 5 Good fellowship. That's a real shame.

Speaker 5 Rosebud's the Sled.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Godfather 2.

Speaker 6 I'm more of a Godfather 3 guy.

Speaker 4 John Rossium would kill you.

Speaker 5 That's absolutely insane.

Speaker 6 Just kidding. I didn't even know that gif was from.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, that's right. That was a funny moment.

Speaker 5 Oh, the clapping gif?

Speaker 8 The old, old Alpha Jesus.

Speaker 4 Don't pull me back in.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 7 My cool throne is hockey.

Speaker 5 Signed up.

Speaker 4 Play it on ice.

Speaker 6 True. Well, that, that, and they like doubled, they're getting double money.

Speaker 6 They doubled up.

Speaker 6 Go on. They're leaving NBC.
They're going to ESPN.

Speaker 5 I think the revenue is going from like $300 million a year to $600 million a year

Speaker 6 from these new deals.

Speaker 4 Cap's going up. Cap's going up.

Speaker 5 I like the fact that it's going to be on ESPN because anything it's going to fit on ESPN. I'm going to talk about it.

Speaker 5 People forget they used to talk about hockey for at least like three minutes each sports center i hope that was that was literally that was literally before my time because growing up they never talked about it like they they would do maybe in the playoffs like a one minute quick highlight package all right it would be so funny if they didn't talk about it still and then but it does have uh the the theme song is fantastic here's my prediction real quick go ahead my prediction is that they're going to need to find somebody to fill like the paul bissinet ryan whitney there's definitely a meeting going on right now at ESPN where they're like, we need to get our Biz Nasty Ryan Whitney of our own on ESPN, but you know, like a little safer than them.

Speaker 5 And they're going to go out there and try to find somebody, and it's going to be the worst impression of Paul Bissinette and Ryan Whitney that they have on the set. Yes, agreed.

Speaker 4 They also have a deal with turns. Unless it's Patrick Sharp, then it's a great hire.

Speaker 4 Just straight up.

Speaker 6 Patrick Sharp doesn't have, he doesn't have the shitty Sydney stories, though. And if he does, he's not going to say them.

Speaker 4 Maybe he will. Maybe it'll be part of his contract.

Speaker 5 Right. He just shows up and just starts vaping right on set.

Speaker 4 All right, is that it? That's it. Okay.

Speaker 5 Hank, did you know that the clapping gif that you see everywhere, that is Citizen Kane? That's probably what... Yeah, the old guy in black and white.

Speaker 5 That's how they should solve the Oscar ratings problems. They should just give Oscars for the best gifts of the year.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was in like a class. I think I was in high school.
I was in a class, and my teacher broke down Citizen Kane. frame by frame, scene by scene, to explain why it was so good.
So I understand

Speaker 6 I understand why it's so good.

Speaker 4 So they have to explain why it's so good.

Speaker 6 Unlike Unlike you, uncultured swines, I understand and support Sis and Kane.

Speaker 4 No, no, I think you like it. That's the best time.
I like when Joe get explained to you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you love the concept of Susan Kane. No, it makes sense.

Speaker 4 It makes total sense. Why haven't they remade it?

Speaker 6 It's so fucking good.

Speaker 4 Can't remake classic. Yeah, you can.

Speaker 6 What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 Don't we have a new Top Gun coming out? Yeah. When is that coming out? I don't know.
It's going to be on last year, I think.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Right.

Speaker 4 It's got planes. Balls.

Speaker 5 What's like a two-second synopsis of Sizzin Kane? Sled.

Speaker 4 You know, Kane the Wrestler? Yeah. Nothing like that.

Speaker 4 There it is.

Speaker 5 Boom. The opposite of Kane.

Speaker 6 Something with a casino, I think.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's about a casino.

Speaker 5 Oh, you're thinking of casino.

Speaker 4 Yeah, casino. No.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 4 Oh, you're thinking of Oceans 11.

Speaker 5 Maybe. Yeah.
Which was a remake. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Of Oceans 10.

Speaker 5 Which is also actually better.

Speaker 4 And 12.

Speaker 5 Oceans 12. I'll walk you through it frame by frame.
Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., they go into a casino.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 PFT.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is

Speaker 5 Bill Simmons. Oh.
Bill Simmons on the hot seat because I don't know if you guys have been up to speed on the goings-on in Dallas these days on the Mavericks.

Speaker 5 Luca and Chris Staps are apparently, they're not exactly best friends.

Speaker 4 Oh, no.

Speaker 5 There's trouble in paradise down there. And Mark Cuban has said a few things in radio interviews.

Speaker 5 He's basically saying, like, they work things out in the court. So they squash whatever views.
I mean, they hate each other.

Speaker 5 And he also said, if you remember, Dirk didn't really like Jason Terry when he first got here, but they worked it out on the court. So basically, they hate each other.

Speaker 5 And Bill Simmons was talking about it on his podcast, which I don't know the name of it. I don't listen to it.

Speaker 5 But they talked about it, and Simmons was like about to say what he knew that was going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 And he was like, no, if I say it, then all the aggregators out there are going to write about it and they'll blog it. And so I'm not going to say it because he doesn't want that attention.

Speaker 5 No question.

Speaker 5 We can just speculate. Okay.

Speaker 5 And then we can get the aggregators to blog about it because i'm fine with people writing about this podcast yeah i'm pretty sure that's what you want yeah you want people to write about your show not if you're bill simmons got it he just wants to hang out with his friend we could probably say no one will write about it because people don't like to put our names in the corner

Speaker 4 they're eskimo brothers i think like when bleacher report and the sbn has to put part of via part of my take on the quote card like a little single tier rolls down there they look like they usually do it in like the same colored font actually in the background you really have to search where's waldo i'll see it and get mad and then i'm like i have to like pull up my magnifying glass.

Speaker 4 I'm like, oh, all right, technically they did it.

Speaker 5 But yeah, apparently there is something that's going on there. And I don't know, no one knows what it is, but they just don't like each other.

Speaker 4 Yeah. My best bet is,

Speaker 5 well, what do they always say? Like the old Villanova rumor where a teammate had sex with another teammate's girlfriend.

Speaker 5 That's a tried and true one that you can always go back to the well on. Well, it's never true.

Speaker 4 But it could be. But it could be.

Speaker 6 And Latvia and Slovenia. Are they not long-standing rivals? Are they beefing?

Speaker 4 Yeah, huge beef. They're probably

Speaker 6 going back to the 1800s.

Speaker 5 They're probably root for different soccer teams. Yeah.

Speaker 5 They got to squash that beef. They got to squash it.

Speaker 4 All right. What's your cool throne?

Speaker 5 My cool throne is Roger Goodell's chair.

Speaker 4 Literally a cool throne this week.

Speaker 5 So Roger Goodell's famous chair, the one that he sat in last year. You remember that one?

Speaker 4 I couldn't forget.

Speaker 5 The one that he sat in.

Speaker 4 What did he do with this chair?

Speaker 5 It's the chair that he sits in when he scams money from people that he says he's going to give to charities and eats M ⁇ Ms and eats M ⁇ Ms.

Speaker 5 It's his man cave chair.

Speaker 5 And we all were wondering what was going to happen this year in the draft with Roger Goodell's chair.

Speaker 5 If you're not, Ian Rappaport reported that the chair will be in Cleveland, and you might see it out and about. So I'm sure it's going to be hilarious, whatever they decide to do with it.

Speaker 5 I just love the idea of an NFL employee going over to Roger Goodell's house. carrying his chair up the stairs, putting it into a van, and then driving his chair across country.

Speaker 5 See, I think it's like it's Rain Man with a lazy boy.

Speaker 4 The funnier thought about it is that Roger Goodell thinks that his chair was that impactful and that funny to everyone that he's going to have the chair out there and he's going to pull over

Speaker 4 like Kyle Pitts can get drafted. He's like, see that over there? Kyle Pitt's like, yeah, that's a chair.
He's like, no, no, no. That's my chair.
That's the chair.

Speaker 4 The chair. And like, you get it? Do you want to hug? No, no one gets it.

Speaker 5 Do you want to hug the chair?

Speaker 4 It's not fucking important. So way to go, Goodell.
They're probably killed out there.

Speaker 5 Okay, two predictions. One, they're either going to have somebody that comes out and gets drafted hug the chair instead of hugging Roger Goodell.

Speaker 5 Two, it'll be like an Instagram selfie station that the NFL is like, cool.

Speaker 4 Oh, we get it.

Speaker 5 We're hip zoomers. Goodell's chair.
So after you get drafted, you can take a selfie of yourself and Roger Goodell's chair.

Speaker 6 I have faith in the people of Cleveland, but I'm just hoping we get a hitch boss situation.

Speaker 5 Just beat the fuck out of it?

Speaker 6 Yeah, they just destroyed the chair. That would be funny.

Speaker 5 Should we put a bounty on the chair?

Speaker 6 I'm down. I mean, yeah, fuck that chair.
If you could see that chair, that chair inspired the stealing from charity.

Speaker 4 Yes, it's on that very chair. We would have donated to him.
Right, yep. Yeah, a lot of money.
Fuck that chair up, please. All right, my hot seat is

Speaker 4 anyone who's still wearing masks outside, we're good. CDC said we don't have to do it anymore.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 Which I don't want to say, not to brag, but I called it, but last week, my sunglasses were getting fogged up, and I was like, I think I'm done wearing a mask outside. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I kind of got there first, CDC. No big deal.

Speaker 5 It's funny to see people getting mad about

Speaker 5 this new unrestriction because this is why we got vaccines. Right.
Remember a year ago, Big Cat, when you,

Speaker 5 in addition to saving the Super League, you told science to make a vaccine.

Speaker 4 Fast.

Speaker 5 Fast. And do it like now.
And they did it. So we hyperforts and they did it warp speed for you.

Speaker 5 This is the reason why we got vaccines.

Speaker 4 So let's go. Let those fucking, let those mouths fly.

Speaker 5 Plus, when you're outside and

Speaker 5 you're outdoors and you're not standing on top of somebody, you're probably fine. I know a lot of people are like, I knew this from the very start.
Nobody knew shit about shit from the very start.

Speaker 5 We've figured out what's going on. It seems to be pretty safe to be outside and breathing fresh air.

Speaker 4 I just feel bad for the guy who's been testing out some type of weird facial hair, being like, well, I got the mask just in case. Now

Speaker 4 he's got to let it fly.

Speaker 5 If you have a cold sore, absolutely take advantage of the mask.

Speaker 4 Keep going, Master.

Speaker 5 Today is the worst day, perhaps, in American history to get a cold sore. Exactly.

Speaker 4 You can't do it. Or you just can't go outside.

Speaker 4 My cool throne is Andre Drummond because Skip Bayless said I'm starting to think his name is really Andre Rummond, no D, which means that he'll now rattle off an incredible stretch of defense.

Speaker 5 It also is curious because Andre Rummond still has two D's correct left in it, so he's got three D's in his name. Skip took out one of them, right?

Speaker 4 He's still a very good D, he's still a very good defensive player. He's got two D's, he's double D's.
Yeah,

Speaker 5 I call him ski bait

Speaker 5 because without a microwave, there's no P.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 4 Um, all right, Billy, I'm excited for this.

Speaker 5 Uh, hot seat CNN Van Jones is uh rumored to be dating kim kardashian so you could see kardashian curse to cnn jones and cnn whoa that'd be pretty wild i maybe that all goes back remember uh when kanye went to tmz and van jones was like getting in a fight with him

Speaker 4 no no

Speaker 4 flag you're looking at van lathen yep yep and he actually tweets about that all the time whenever van jones like cries on air

Speaker 4 he's like people always text me like dude you okay It's like, that's not me.

Speaker 7 My bad van.

Speaker 4 He just won an Oscar, though. Yeah, he did.
So, shout out to you. Congratulations.

Speaker 8 Sorry.

Speaker 5 I feel like CNN is another one of those things like SNL where it still occupies a lot of space in people's brains, and not that many people pay attention to it. Yeah, unless it's on Twitter.

Speaker 4 Oh, definitely.

Speaker 4 All right. Billy.

Speaker 4 Hot seat extra innings. Second one.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Minor league team is saying, fuck extra innings. We're just going to have a home run derby.

Speaker 4 Love it. Minor league.
Love it. Huge move.

Speaker 5 it's a whole league actually not just a team yeah

Speaker 4 league that's why pioneer league the pioneer thank you did they do that i said i said pioneer league anyway uh hot seat chicken i ate a whole chicken today hey you know who else is a pioneer

Speaker 4 ate a whole rotisserie chicken it was pretty big

Speaker 4 you know who else is a pioneer

Speaker 4 oh you

Speaker 5 yes i am a pioneer cool throne

Speaker 5 cool throne pie the cryptocurrency it's getting a crypto wallet so you can trade it. I am really pie.

Speaker 4 There's a cryptocurrency named Pi that if it somehow takes off, Billy Football will have Elon Musk money and the world will just cease to exist.

Speaker 5 Billy will actually buy Barstool.

Speaker 4 He has so much pie.

Speaker 5 And he will actually kick us off our own show.

Speaker 4 It's the scariest thing ever, man. It's the scariest thing ever.

Speaker 5 He'll keep you employed and then just like do bossy things to you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he'll make me get drunk for every show.

Speaker 4 Billy, honestly, I like the chicken.

Speaker 5 I sincerely hope that you become a billionaire. I think that that would be just

Speaker 4 cool as shit.

Speaker 5 Like, why are we wasting our time?

Speaker 4 Like, they're not doing cool stuff.

Speaker 5 How many chickens would you eat in a day if you had unlimited money? Well, I'd be doing the best like HGH testosterone, and I'd get huge.

Speaker 4 And I'd be a bodybuilding billionaire.

Speaker 6 If Billy was a billionaire, like, he would do some

Speaker 6 Jurassic Park type shit.

Speaker 5 Oh, we discussed it yesterday.

Speaker 6 True, microdocin.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Cool Throne.
Macro.

Speaker 4 Macro, sorry. Cool Throne Slam Ball.

Speaker 5 Slam Ball is trending the other day. Slam Ball Saturdays were the best.
They were amazing. Slam Ball, if you've never watched Slam Ball,

Speaker 5 I guess if you're probably younger than me and Big Cat, it wasn't on TV when you were growing up. It's basketball with trampoline.

Speaker 4 Those guys went. It's sick.

Speaker 5 They put it on Cartoon Network when I was a kid.

Speaker 4 Oh, sick. But also, Cool Throne.
You still going?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 4 why is it on the Cool Throne? No, no, no.

Speaker 4 You're still going.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I have way more. Okay.

Speaker 5 Cool Throne Swords. Some Arkansas politician was holding a sword in the bathroom when they found him after the Capitol insurrection thing.

Speaker 4 That's kind of cool.

Speaker 4 Okay, so now we're doing swords in January. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, they just found this out.

Speaker 4 And Cool Throne Elon Musk.

Speaker 5 He made a dick joke about Jeff Bezos' space company. He said, your space company sucks because you can't get it up

Speaker 5 into orbit because his rockets suck.

Speaker 4 I just didn't know that.

Speaker 5 I didn't know that Jeff Bezos had a space company.

Speaker 4 He does.

Speaker 5 Cool Throne Greek mythology. Percy Jackson is coming back and redoing it.

Speaker 4 Good job.

Speaker 4 Good job, Billy. Cool Throne Water.
That was great. Cool Throne Water.

Speaker 5 Why water? You just got to drink it.

Speaker 4 You need it. You just need that shit.
All right, let's get to it.

Speaker 5 This is like Michael Strahan's last game that one season where Bret Farr have laid down just so you get the record.

Speaker 5 Just keep going, baby.

Speaker 4 It's incredible. It's incredible.
It's Derek Cheetah. I can't wait for Friday.
Your Fire Fests are going to be lit.

Speaker 4 Oh, shit. He just realized he had to do a lot of Fire Fests.

Speaker 5 That's your first Fire Fest.

Speaker 4 Yeah, realizing you have to do a shitload of Fire Fest. All right.

Speaker 4 Let's get to our interviews. We've got JB Smooth first, and then we have Steven Shea doing some draft stuff.

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Speaker 4 Okay, here he is, JB Smooth.

Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on our recurring guest, friend of the program.

Speaker 4 He was in studio last time, but it's great to see him. It is JB Smooth.

Speaker 4 He has a new podcast out. May I elaborate? Daily wisdom from JB Smooth.

Speaker 4 So I want some daily wisdom.

Speaker 4 I want you to pitch us on this podcast, but I also want you to tell us some wisdom that we can use, and maybe we'll riff off of that. Oh, you know what? I like to dive in on certain people.

Speaker 4 You told me what's going on in your life.

Speaker 4 I'll break it down. I'll break your fucking whole life down.
Okay.

Speaker 4 What's going on with you?

Speaker 4 How are you doing in this climate we're dealing with? How's your emotional state? You know,

Speaker 4 do you envision things for yourself, you know, like maybe doing this podcast on another planet in the future? I don't know. You talking about what do you have planned?

Speaker 4 Is it intergalactic shit going on? Or are you

Speaker 4 stationed here on this planet? Or do you see yourself on another planet? Or are you in the physical form on this planet but your mind is in the universe i don't i don't i don't know i don't know okay

Speaker 5 okay i want to move this podcast to a con's country that he's inventing

Speaker 4 have you heard about that

Speaker 4 i love that now i love that a con right

Speaker 5 the singer acon he's got acorn he's got he's building a utopia in africa right now and it's going to be open to everybody it's going to be open to everybody he is building a a uh a wakanda of some

Speaker 4 you know a a a far-off world that you can go to you know what everything in your life should be more like oz you know uh uh like the wizard of oz you know that that little girl that little dog the stupid ass lion that dumbass tin man they got themselves together they formed a a a a a a boy band with a girl lead singer and you know what i mean and they all went on it went on down this little road that yellow brick road is nothing but life you think the yellow brick road is a real road that's not a real road the yellow brick road is life everything they've ever been through in their life that's what what that yellow brick road is.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The yellow brick road is going somewhere.
That's what Akon is doing here. He is building a utopia, a world, another world where nothing, everything's free.

Speaker 4 I heard everything's going to be free too. You go walk in.

Speaker 4 They have their own version of Walmart and you just walk in and grab stuff. You go shopping, but you don't pay for nothing.
You just walk right out.

Speaker 4 That's shoplifting. That is shoplifting.
No, no, no, no, no. It's not a crime over there.
Okay. It's not a crime.

Speaker 4 It's what people need. It's giving people what they need.

Speaker 4 See, give them what they need if you got to pay for it it's too much stress do i have enough money and can i afford to feed my kids can i do this that's what you're gonna build a utopia a world you gotta build a world where everything is free free stuff you know what i mean and they charge you they charge you at the end it see you use stuff up and they charge you at the end see that forces you to save money and put money in your account so you don't got to worry about it and then people who stressed out right now you'll be stressed out if you go over there know why so you're too worried about how much you want to spend to go over there to move over there.

Speaker 4 Sure, anybody can go, but see, your mind is still worried about how much support my family. Now, I gotta get a damn job.
See, it's too much to worry about.

Speaker 4 That's why I all see, I should be, I should be on so many levels, not just a guru, uh, not just a TED talk guy. I should be someone uh in a position to change everything.

Speaker 4 I like that, you know what I mean? I like that.

Speaker 4 Right, see, you pay for stuff later, yeah.

Speaker 4 People to worry about their bills, your bills will take over your life. See, bills and not having things, that's what made people rob banks.

Speaker 4 You think people rob a bank because they like the color of money? No, they rob a bank because they need money. See, they need money.
They need funds.

Speaker 4 People don't need to be worrying about everything that should be given to you. Education.
I like this.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you just described a credit card with no limit on it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, but I think how

Speaker 5 Akon's genius because you do have to pay for it at the end, but it's all in Acoin. So he gets a a cut of every transaction that goes through.

Speaker 4 See, see?

Speaker 4 And if I was telling him I make my own money, Acon money. See? Acon money.
You make Acon money and you put your face on that money. See? That way, everybody has the same money.
You know?

Speaker 4 And the money, each money, and the money don't have no value to it. It's just something to have.
To have in your pocket.

Speaker 4 You know how fun it is to have something in your pocket that don't mean a damn thing, but it's still money? You roll up a big knot of Acon bills and you put that bill, those bills in your pocket. See?

Speaker 4 And no one's going to rob you because it ain't worth a damn until the end of the year anyway. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 My issue right now that you could maybe fix, I'm just tired. I'm tired.
We're coming off March Madness. I got a little son.
I'm tired. I'm just a tired person.
So fix it for me. Oh, man.
You're tired.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Here's what happens.
Sometimes tired gets in the way of tired. You understand?

Speaker 4 You got too many different tires going on. You're tired of this shit.
You're tired of dumb shit.

Speaker 4 You're tired of this food your wife keep making every goddamn Thursday.

Speaker 4 You got too many tires going on and your tires are overlapping with your other tires. You're tired of driving to work.
You're tired of driving to work. You're tired of this dumbass car.

Speaker 4 I got this dumbass car keep breaking down.

Speaker 4 I'm tired of

Speaker 4 my mortgage. You tired.
See.

Speaker 4 Tires get in the way of other tires.

Speaker 4 So you got tires that are intersecting with each other. You understand? understand?

Speaker 4 You love oodles and noodles, but at some point, you get tired of these goddamn ramen noodles. Yep.
I don't tried them. I done added vegetables to it.
I done added bacon to it.

Speaker 4 I don't tried nacho, cheese, loose ass, loose ass gummy bears. I don't put everything in these goddamn ramen noodles, but they still ramen noodles.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 My tires are overlapping. I got to get rid of one of my tires.
The tires are overlapping with the other tires. Yeah.
So

Speaker 4 the only way to clear your tire in this is you got to delete your cachet. You know, you got to delete your cache.
Okay.

Speaker 4 That means that means you got to, you got to erase some of your stuff in order to make room for other stuff to breathe.

Speaker 4 You got too many things going on in your head. You can't breathe.
Yeah. You can't breathe, man.
You're worried about what you're going to wear today. Stupid stuff, man.
Let's come to school.

Speaker 4 Let's come to work naked. Fuck it.
You know what I mean? I like that. Until someone tell you, until some, hey, you come naked until someone say you can't do that.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay, so the day one, the first time I show up naked. Don't worry about date.
See,

Speaker 4 you're the type of guy that'll be worried about going to work naked before you go to work naked. You got to go to work naked before you worry about going to work naked.
Guilty is charged.

Speaker 4 I reflect about going to work naked. You do it first and then you let someone tell you you can't do that.
Okay, I like that. So we'll do naked day.

Speaker 5 It's not a rule until you break it. Right.
That's the way I look at it. Better ask.

Speaker 4 Forgiveness. Signs go up after people do stuff.
You go in a store, you ever go in a store and it says, no shirt, no shoes. And they say, you know, you can't do that.

Speaker 4 You can't walk in a store with no shirt and no shoes. No why? Because someone walked in there with no shirt and no shoes.
And that was established that we don't want to do that no more.

Speaker 4 So we're going to put a sign up.

Speaker 4 Shirt and shoe required. You can't walk in here barefoot and you can't walk in here with no goddamn shirt on.

Speaker 4 See?

Speaker 4 It goes up after the fact.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you can loiter anywhere you want until they they put a sign-up that says no trespasses.

Speaker 4 You can ride the skateboard anywhere you want until someone say it's not a good idea for for these young people to be wearing their riding their damn skateboards on these on everything. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Doing jumps off the benches and stuff.

Speaker 5 All right, what what about what about this issue I've been dealing with?

Speaker 5 I've been scheduled to play in a rock, paper, scissors tournament for like the last week or so. I'm nervous because I'm not very good at rock, paper, scissors.

Speaker 5 Do you have any recommendations for me to like, do I go double rock right off the bat?

Speaker 4 am i too much in my own head how do i do how do i deal with that in your in your damn head see here's the thing you don't know how to play rock paper scissors right you're not good at it you don't know how to play it if there's anything else you know how to play you know how to play checkers you know pay chess yeah i played i played both here what you got to do you got to play rock paper scissors like you playing chess see okay you got to play it in your head like something you know how to play not play video games yeah yeah what's your favorite game fortnight i'm playing warzone recently.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You play War. You play Rock, Paper, Scissors as if you're playing Warzone.

Speaker 5 Okay, so you just don't do anything.

Speaker 4 You guys should play each other right now. Just play each other right now.

Speaker 5 Council in the corner and don't move.

Speaker 4 Okay, you want to go? I don't know how to play. See? Okay.
But if I was to play, I would play it as if I'm playing John Matten on PS5. You know what I'm saying? Gotcha.

Speaker 4 See, I would have a play in my life. Do you like the new Madden? I don't like it.

Speaker 4 I love it. I really,

Speaker 4 yeah, I like it. I like it.
Of course, the PS4 version is nice, but I do like the change and I do like, you know, learning something different. It's too realistic.

Speaker 4 The movements are like, they've tried to refine it. I kind of liked it when it was just like, you know, guys would run straight line, you know, take a hard right, then run a straight line again.

Speaker 4 I like it realistic, bro. You know what? It's so real.
That PS5 version of Madden is so real. I got injured last week playing that shit.
You feel me? I got, I fucking got injured, bro.

Speaker 4 I was out for five weeks. You know, that's, that's what

Speaker 4 it better be real. It better be realistic.
That game is great.

Speaker 4 If you can apply, you apply that concept of stopping someone, of playing offensive moves, of running that ball, play action, setting the pass up, kicking the field goals, all the things that apply to football to rock, paper, scissors.

Speaker 4 Your ass can't be beat. You can't be beat.

Speaker 5 Can't be beat.

Speaker 4 I've already run through a brick wall. Wait, who's your team? Who do you play with in Madden? You know what? I love, I'm in a league right now.
A lot of times, a lot of your team teams get taken.

Speaker 4 People already have them. So right now, I'm playing with the Panthers.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I like McCaffrey. I call him, he got some quick-ass feet.
I like him because

Speaker 4 I can dip a little bit,

Speaker 4 hit that sideline. I'm gone.
I'm ghost. I'm fucking ghost.
But I do love using, you know, I like using teams that, you know, with the league, you're building, you're building your team.

Speaker 4 So your teams don't remain the same forever. You know, you kind of build your

Speaker 4 teams, you ride through them, people retire people you you you trading you're doing a draft you know we do the whole thing you know so uh right now i'm using the panthers right now i'm having pretty good success sorry are you gonna do the roster update and get sam darnoll on the team

Speaker 4 you know what we are we are updating our roster right now but majority of the time we we as as the trades happen we update everything so Yes, Sam Donald will be, you know, and I'm a Jet fan. So

Speaker 4 Sam Donald will be on the Panthers, you know what I mean? So,

Speaker 4 but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 See what happens, man. As a Jets fan, how do you feel about that? Are you excited about finally getting to move on, maybe taking Zach Wilson for like second overall?

Speaker 4 I'm excited.

Speaker 4 I'm just not a big fan of restarts all the time. You know what I mean? No, it's kind of like you're kicking somebody's ass

Speaker 4 online, and every time you

Speaker 4 just annoys the shit out of me when you're kicking somebody's ass in Madden, there's some random person in the world, you know, online, and you're kicking their ass like 42 to 3.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 the whole time you're scoring, you're saying, oh,

Speaker 4 he's going to turn this shit off in a minute. Oh, yeah.
He's going to turn this shit off in a minute. Oh,

Speaker 4 he's going to quit in a minute. The whole time you're playing, you know this guy's going to quit.
Every touchdown, you're saying, okay, he's going to quit this time. If I stop him one more time,

Speaker 4 he's going to quit. And that's what's going on.
See, sometimes life gets in the way and you got to quit sometimes. But see, you got to have the patience to understand that you about to restart.

Speaker 4 They just got to understand that we're about to restart again. Learn a new player.
Players got to learn the players. Players got to learn each other.
Players got to learn their timing.

Speaker 4 All the things that come with restarting some, it's like starting a new relationship. You know, you get a new lady.
You got to learn her rhythm. You got to learn

Speaker 4 her little spots. She's like to be touched at.

Speaker 4 you got to learn how to hold her hand hell you got to learn have you ever started dating a new girl and you're used to hooking your hand around your waist and walking and that is disjointed like you can't get your rhythm with the way how fast she walking compared to how fast your previous lady was walking and now you all off you clumsy as hell you tripping you tripping now because you don't know how to walk with her y'all y'all are not in sync yet you gotta learn how she you gotta learn how she walk you gotta learn how she make love you gotta you gotta you gotta She make a food different.

Speaker 4 Everything tastes different. All the food different.
Everybody go to a restaurant. She orders different.
She complains different. Man, everything changes.

Speaker 4 Right now, they're just about to get into another relationship with another quarterback, and they got to learn this person.

Speaker 4 They got to put their hand around this new quarterback's waist and walk with them and see. And make sure their fucking feet don't tangle up together and they fucking fall on their goddamn face.

Speaker 5 Right, but was the sex really that great with Adam Gates to begin with? Like, I feel like it's, yeah, you got to learn something else, but you were in an abusive relationship right before, right?

Speaker 4 You better, hey, it's all about what kind of relationship you are trying to have with said person

Speaker 4 and every relationship don't work man some things just don't work and sometimes you know it don't work from the get-go but guess what sometimes you stay there sometimes you stay in that relationship too long you stay too long yeah and now you're now you're tainted everybody else in your circle all your fans everybody who watch these games now they all they all frustrated everybody's tainted now Now nobody trusts you.

Speaker 4 Now nobody trusts you. They don't know where we're going to go right now.
Now we got to start all over again. Of course, you got to start back over at some point because

Speaker 4 no relationship lasts forever.

Speaker 4 Some don't last forever. Some do, but some don't last forever.
You got to have the right situation.

Speaker 4 You got to satisfy so many people. And

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 we are all a product of the route we have already taken. So, you know how the jet fans, you know? And someone, someone uttered one day, same old jets.
Somebody did that one day. Yeah.
And

Speaker 4 now people can't can't stop saying it. You know why? Because somebody said that shit.
Somebody said it. And now they can't stop saying it.

Speaker 4 It can't unsee it.

Speaker 4 Now, every time something happens, we're thinking, okay, let's see what happens. Let's see what we're going to do now.
You know what I mean? And

Speaker 4 I'm in that little wound right there. You know, you got to love your team.
You got to support your team. But now, I don't know if I got,

Speaker 4 I don't know if I got nervous energy now or if I got anticipation as to what is waiting for us on the horizon. What are we going to do? What are we going to do now? You're buzzing though.
I know what?

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's the fun part.
That's the fun part being like, who's this next guy going to be? He might be incredible.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but here's the thing. He might be incredible, but young people cannot learn from young people.
You understand? That's a good quote. It cannot learn from young people.

Speaker 4 You know, people got to learn from people who players got to learn from players who've done it.

Speaker 4 who's won a championship before, who's done something amazing where you can be inspired to do the same damn thing. And

Speaker 4 we all have a certain timeline.

Speaker 4 You are living in your timeline and you are living in your timeline right now. And I'm just hoping in my timeline, I get a chance to see these damn jets do something amazing.
I'm waiting for it.

Speaker 4 I want to see it. I want to see it happen.
Yeah. You know, in my timeline.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 This is a little misdirection, but are you going to be in season 11 of Curb Your Enthusiasm? Let me tell you something right now, man.

Speaker 4 As I speak,

Speaker 4 I'm off today, but as I speak, they are shooting episodes today oh

Speaker 4 i worked i worked i worked yesterday so yes we are we are having a great time already and um you know it's it's it's going to be amazing as always man you know how we do what's ld's mood at right now is he excited about this because i've i've read articles where he like he loves doing it but he also kind of dreads doing it I think it's one of those things where I think that's with anything, man.

Speaker 4 I think you anticipate what's coming. You know what you do well.
And, you know, and you want to give people exactly what they love about you, about the show, and you want to be consistent with it.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? And that applies to curb enthusiasm and also applies to sports and anything else you can think of. You need consistency.

Speaker 4 You know, you want people to, I can't wait to see what we put on the field. And that's what we are.

Speaker 4 I can't, hey, hey, I'm there. I'm there working and I can't wait for you to see what we put on the field.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's the way that I put it in. Because

Speaker 4 I think Larry puts an amazing team of people

Speaker 4 on the show. And I can't wait for you guys to

Speaker 4 see what's going to happen, man.

Speaker 4 If you're a true, true Curb fan and follow the show religiously, man,

Speaker 4 you actually know. what to expect.
And one thing about Curb is the show is very consistent in tackling anything and everything that

Speaker 4 unnerves us.

Speaker 4 It says cringe-worthy. Cringe-worthy is the good word for it, you know? And I think people love to cringe and love Larry's take on the world.

Speaker 4 And we're just a part of it, man.

Speaker 5 What's the vibe like to be a part of the show? On set, because I know that you go into each scene. I think you shared this with us last time.
You have a direction you want to go.

Speaker 5 You got certain main points that you want to hit, and you want to get from point A to point B.

Speaker 5 do as much funny stuff as you can in between see where that takes you is there somebody that is uh like the i don't want to say the jimmy fallon of that set but somebody who can't keep it together as much as everybody else that you have to stop a lot because that person keeps laughing larry is the king larry is the ultimate king of giggles um he you you kind of catch him on his heels a little bit he's his his The right side of his mouth goes up in the air a little bit.

Speaker 4 He's like,

Speaker 4 and you know, you got him on his heels. You know, we, um,

Speaker 4 you know, he's number one, he's number one on the list of

Speaker 4 giggles.

Speaker 5 When you see that, though, when you see his, his mouth start to bend up, is that like for you, or do you smell blood in the water? Are you like, I'm gonna go harder at this?

Speaker 4 As a comedian, a stand-up comedian, I smell blood. You know, a lot of people want to make you laugh.
I want to make a snot bubble come out your goddamn nose, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 And to me, the snot bubble is the ultimate,

Speaker 4 the ultimate ultimate for a comedian. A snot bubble, wet your pants, that kind of stuff.
That's the ultimate. A good old snot bubble.

Speaker 5 Have you ever made anybody piss their pants?

Speaker 4 Of course I did. Of course I did.

Speaker 4 I did a show one time in Tampa, Florida. And this lady came up to me after a show.
She had a coat on, a trench coat, and she said, look what you made me do. Opened her coat up and her

Speaker 4 outfit was wet. Wet.

Speaker 5 Are you sure that was pissed or was she just trying to see you after the show?

Speaker 4 No, that was pissed, man. She was embarrassed.
She was embarrassed. She showed me what was going on and she walked away.
She said, oh, my God, I can't believe I did this. But

Speaker 4 that's what we do. Yeah.

Speaker 4 A comedian would mark that down as an accomplishment. You understand? Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 That's an accomplishment. I mean, it's my pissed in pants.
People say it all the time. People say it all the time, but to actually see it, see it for itself.

Speaker 4 you know people sometimes they'll over exaggerate and say i made someone pissed at pants i killed this crowd Standing on ovation.

Speaker 4 Everybody pissed in their pants. Buster gut.
People say bust the gut all the time. People say bust the gut all the time, but you don't see people walk out with guts hanging out their goddamn

Speaker 4 over their belt and shit.

Speaker 4 I like how you say piss their pants. I don't know.
There's something about it.

Speaker 4 You're pissed at their pants. The pants.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 There's something about it.

Speaker 4 All right. So I had one last question, JB.
This has been awesome. So you have the new podcast coming out.
You're going to be giving people advice, inspiration every single day.

Speaker 4 What's the plan for it? Is it once a week? And is it just like you're going to sit down and just let it go? Yeah, this is called May I Elaborate, which is what I love to do.

Speaker 4 You know, I love to elaborate. I'm an elaborator.
So it's called May I Elaborate. It's going to be a daily podcast show.

Speaker 4 It's part of Team Coco.

Speaker 4 This is going to be so fun, man. What I do is I take positive affirmations and I explode them.
I give people...

Speaker 4 So a lot of times when you read these affirmations, you're confused as to what they actually mean and how do they apply to my life exactly. You know,

Speaker 4 people want inspiration. They want to be,

Speaker 4 you know, enlightened by someone. And there's no one better to enlighten your ass than me.
I take that affirmation. I take that Zen moment.

Speaker 4 I take that, you know, these amazing quotes and I explode them. I blow them up.
I elaborate on them. I make I give you clarity for you to continue your beautiful day.

Speaker 4 You know, you tune in to be motivated. You know, and there's no one better at motivating someone than JB Smooth.
I motivate the, I'm telling you, I motivate the shit out of you.

Speaker 4 A lot of people shake shit out of you. I shake shit into you.

Speaker 4 Oh, I like that. Put it on a quote.
Take it. Take it off.
Take it off. Take it off.

Speaker 4 That's what people need sometimes.

Speaker 4 People want to shake shit out of you. I want to shake shit into you.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You You feel me? Yeah. And it's going to be so fun, man.
It's myself and my good friend and writing partner, Miles.

Speaker 4 And we just, you know, it's simple. It's in the simplest form.
You want to hear things in the simplest form. It allows you to digest it, man.
I allow you to digest what the fuck I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 And I tip it 100. People say they keep it 100.
I keep it 150. You know, I can be real with you.

Speaker 4 I know exactly where you are. I know we are dealing with trying times right now.
And sometimes you need somebody to just to help your ass out. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 5 I think you just motivated us to listen to the podcast.

Speaker 4 Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
Yeah, it's fun. It's fun shit, bro.
I promise you, it's fun. Yeah.
And you guys are going to enjoy it, man. And it's, you know, sometimes you need a little morsel.

Speaker 4 Sometimes you don't need a full bite.

Speaker 4 You just need a little morsel sometimes.

Speaker 4 Woo. I love it.
If I apply that shit to sports, I say sometimes you need a first down here and there. Woo!

Speaker 4 Shit. Just move the chip.
You need a first down. Sometimes you need a fucking first down sometimes.
Sometimes it ain't about scoring sometimes.

Speaker 4 Sometimes, as long as they don't score on you, they can't beat you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Love it. Don't get me started.
Don't get me started. Love it.

Speaker 4 All right. Well, JB, thank you so much.
Everyone go subscribe. We're going to drop this the week that your new podcast launches.
So go check it out. May I elaborate.
Daily wisdom from JB Smooth.

Speaker 4 Always a pleasure, man. And hopefully we can do this again in person next time.
Hey, man, we will do this in person.

Speaker 4 Don't, see, you fucking up again. Oh, I did.
I did. You said that.
I'm hopefully fucked up, Cat.

Speaker 4 Don't get tired of this timeline, Addie. The timeline is all,

Speaker 4 you're overlapping shit, bro. I know.

Speaker 4 Don't use the word hopefully. We will do this in person again

Speaker 4 very soon.

Speaker 4 We're going to say that to the universe.

Speaker 5 I already saw you in the future.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I'll see you again soon.
I'm still tired in the future. Fucking right.
You're fucking right. Hey, level out, baby.

Speaker 4 I'm going to level out. I'm going to level out every time we see you.

Speaker 5 I love it.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm going to do? Next time we hang out in person, we should drink a shitload of water beforehand. And you have to.
The interview is not over till you make us piss our pants.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or bust our guts. Hey.

Speaker 4 There we go. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'll cut my stomach just a little bit. Like, supposedly, if you can laugh at

Speaker 4 all my guts,

Speaker 4 you're damn right. You better be prepared, man.
I'm going to make them guts fly all out. And you're going to wet the pants at the same time.
Both.

Speaker 4 Both, baby. Both.
Yes. All right.
Love it, man. All right.
Thanks so much, JB.

Speaker 4 Love you guys, man. Be safe out there, man.
We'll do this real soon. Yes, absolutely.
See you, man. Thank you so much.
Later, let's go, Jess. Let's go, Jess.
There you go. Learn your new woman.

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Speaker 5 Now, here he is, NFL Draft Senior Analyst Stephen Che.

Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on first-time guest, one of our best friends in the entire world. It is

Speaker 4 your senior draft analyst for Barstool Sports.

Speaker 5 I thought you were a draft associate. Did I screw that up?

Speaker 4 No, he got promoted. But everyone else got promoted ahead of him.
So he has seven bosses.

Speaker 5 But you were a one-time draft associate, yes.

Speaker 4 I was a one-time junior draft analyst. I was demoted last year after a fiasco during the NFL draft that we did, the stream, in which I got a bad tip and went with it on air.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 So you're blaming your sources. All right.
So that show will be back on Thursday. It is Stephen Shea.
Make sure you check him out. He also has a great podcast called the Surf and Turf Podcast.

Speaker 4 Go download it with Joey Molinaro and Willie Cologne. I still don't know why it's called Surf and Turf, but what's it called now? The Going Deep Podcast.

Speaker 5 Going Deep. What does that mean?

Speaker 4 Like going deep sex?

Speaker 4 You really are a student of Bruce Arians. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4 There's no double entattra there.

Speaker 5 Like you're, it's not also that you're going deep on a subject. No.
It's just about a pass.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, it is going deep on a subject. Like the interviews are longer forms.
So, yes, they're like 30, 40 minutes.

Speaker 5 I was hoping it was just about going deep on a pass. No, that's what you need.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 even that's what the logo is. I mean, the first iteration was surf and turf, which still no one has ever given me an answer what that fucking meant.

Speaker 4 All right. So Stephen is going to, we have Daniel Jeremiah, who is Stephen Chase.

Speaker 4 Would you say he's your hero? One of my professional idols, yes. Okay, all right, professional idols.
Are we professional idols of yours? I consider you guys co-workers.

Speaker 4 I mean, I work at parts of my family. Oh, wow.
All right, that's a little presumptive.

Speaker 4 For people watching on video, the bench press behind you, I assembled with my bare hands. It's true.
You are a you're a

Speaker 4 yes,

Speaker 5 you're a draft expert expert. I think you know more about draft experts than anybody else at this company.
If you had a big board, who give me your top four, your big board of draft experts?

Speaker 4 Big board of draft experts or draft prospects? Draft experts. Okay.

Speaker 4 Does this include like kind of retired guys?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
No, do four and then do a fifth for

Speaker 4 maybe a retired contributor to the draft

Speaker 4 community.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Number one's got to be DJ, Daniel Jeremiah. I mean, he does this year-round.
He was actually the first podcast that I got into. By the way.

Speaker 4 He's not DJ.

Speaker 4 Like, wait,

Speaker 4 Peggy texted us, who's one of our

Speaker 4 greatest bookers. Yeah, our greatest booker.

Speaker 4 We're going to buy her a bag. But Peggy texts us, like, hey, you got DJ next week.
I was like, we got Dustin Johnson. And she's like, no, Daniel Jeremiah.
I was like, that's not DJ.

Speaker 4 That 100% is DJ. No.
Okay. You're completely outing yourself as a non-football guy.
Wow. Wow.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Well, I'm a football guy with no drive. I'm driving.
All right. DJ's number one.
Yep. DJ number one.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 character-wise, Kuiper is probably number one, but like content-wise, DJ is a buffin. DJ puts out stuff year-round.
Kuiper is awesome from

Speaker 4 January through April, and he's such a character.

Speaker 4 I mean, you, you know, talking with McShea, he got one of the more shocking facts you guys didn't bring up, he goes through a lazy boy recliner every one to two years consistently.

Speaker 4 His brain is a draft. He, the anecdote that I saw floating around this week is that he still watches old shows, but at the correct time slot.

Speaker 4 So, like, he watches the show Dallas, but he'll watch it at 8 o'clock on Tuesdays, whenever Dallas 30 years ago used to air.

Speaker 4 That's how detail-oriented in his mind is a draft where he can't deviate, like, oh, I can't watch this show. It's not, it's not, it's like, I can't watch the show at 10 o'clock.

Speaker 4 That's not when it aired.

Speaker 5 How do you go through a lazy boy a year?

Speaker 4 How do you sit this hard sitting? I don't know. It's one of the, it's a kite race off.

Speaker 4 It also could easily be explained that the man who rips cheese off his pizza, eats a pumpkin pie every morning, and also has like a mashed potatoes addiction probably has some spills.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's true. It might not be that he like goes through a lazy boy a year.
He just knows that it's time to replace. His wife replaces

Speaker 5 his lazy boy once a year.

Speaker 4 They break. And he's not like a heavy guy.

Speaker 5 Wait, he breaks one a year.

Speaker 4 He's just living hard. He's sitting hard.
I actually respect that. Do everything 100%.

Speaker 4 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 4 All right. I would say those are like pretty clearly the top two.
Number three might be a guy guy you might be less familiar with, but Dane Brugler. So

Speaker 4 Dane Brugler works for the athletic. He puts out a draft guide every year called The Beast.
It's like 250 to 300 pages every single year. It's basically every prospect that's drafted.
Say no more.

Speaker 4 He named his draft The Beast.

Speaker 4 He's obviously up there. Yep.
And then number four.

Speaker 4 It's tough because I love Mick Shea.

Speaker 4 He's a friend of the program.

Speaker 4 So some listeners may remember me from a couple of years ago.

Speaker 4 You guys brought me on for a Mick Shea interview, and I kind of grilled him because I do listen to his podcast, the First Ref Podcast, with Kuiper.

Speaker 4 And I gave him some shit about it because he taped a podcast like on the side of the road once. This year, he's had a lot.
And I texted you yesterday.

Speaker 4 He's a very lucky guy that I had my kid last week and was not in the office because I would have given a lot of guff to this guy. Oh, it would have been guff.

Speaker 4 He's shown up very late for audio issues. I mean, Todd's got to get it together.
So, Todd's actually going to fall out of my top four because of this. You go to wow.
Yep.

Speaker 4 We're going to go with a newcomer, Matt Miller, who's at ESPN as well. He's very great, very thrill.
He's speaking for a newcomer.

Speaker 5 I mean, he's been doing this for like 10, 12 years.

Speaker 4 Newcomer to like the mainstream. The mainstream.
Matt Miller also gets dinged a little. I like Matt Miller a lot.
I've been following him for a long time.

Speaker 4 He gets dinged, though, because he did have that take about Edelman being a Hall of Famer and then just combined Edelman and Welker's careers.

Speaker 4 He was like, Edelman was Brady's go-to for 11 straight years.

Speaker 5 That's fair.

Speaker 5 he also gets dinged by Marcus Spears basically on the daily on on get up everything that he says Marcus Spears just puts you in a locker yeah all right and then your uh emeritus or maybe even immemorium drafts you know I mean Mike May

Speaker 4 Mike Mayock the greatest would put out one mock draft every year and it'd be the day before the draft

Speaker 4 absolute best he's not doing anymore because he's with uh with the raiders as the gm but daniel jeremiah has picked this up every year there is a media call where the guys will host a call with local media.

Speaker 4 So, you know, whatever, Detroit Free Press, Pittsburgh Gazette, Post-Gazette, et cetera. And all these reporters will call in and ask questions about their specific teams.
Daniel Jeremiah is great.

Speaker 4 He's continued the tradition, does it for about an hour? Mayox for like three hours. Must listen stuff.
I listened to it several times just to make sure I had all my points.

Speaker 4 But one of my favorite listens, could not find it on the internet. Like you had to go to like a very weird streaming service or like a web page that basically you didn't, you couldn't download it.

Speaker 4 You'd have to listen to it through, like straight through. And if your page refreshed or anything, you were screwed.
So I'm glad they fixed that. They now put it on the Move the Sticks feed, but

Speaker 4 for people who don't understand Stephen Shea, everything that he says is 100% serious. There is no bit.
There's no joke.

Speaker 4 So when he says like Mayok conference call day was one of the best days of his calendar year,

Speaker 4 it's real. It's very real.
Yes. Yes, definitely.

Speaker 5 Did you ever get a chance to ask him a question?

Speaker 4 Yes. So the 2010 draft was at Radio City Music Hall.
I attended the NFL draft from 2005 to 2011 every single year.

Speaker 4 It was the year that Gerald McCoy and Indomicon Sue, Sam Bradford number one, they were kind of the one too. The Bucs have the three pick.
I'm a Bucks fan, Super Bowl champs, not a big deal. So

Speaker 4 I asked, I, you know, the first round, it was when it was the first round only in prime time. So they just moved it there.

Speaker 4 And he was, I saw him and he was like kind of walking back, you know, in an area with common people. And he was famous, but he wasn't like common people.
I guess he's as famous as he is now.

Speaker 4 He's very famous to me. He's not that famous to most people.
I also liked it. Just to interrupt real quick, I like this story.
Like you're pretending like you saw him at an airport.

Speaker 4 You saw him at the draft where he was working. Yeah.
You're like, I saw him at the draft.

Speaker 5 I like how he calls like everybody who's not Mike Mayock common people.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Everybody else and then Mike.

Speaker 4 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So he was one of the few guys that had Gerald McCoy over in Dominican Sue after Sue had a dominant college season.

Speaker 4 So I wanted to ask, as a Bucks fan, hey, can you kind of talk to me about this more? Why do you like McCoy over Sue? End of the night, it's probably 11.30 at night. Everyone's tired.

Speaker 4 He had been talking all day. He goes, all right, yeah, no problem.
He's like, you know what? My hotel is like 10 minutes from here. Just walk to me.
I was in the city at the time. Great.

Speaker 4 Mike Mayock walked and talked with me for 10 minutes through New York City. Just me and my friend.
Incredible experience. Never forget it.
Nicest guy. Wow.
Did he invite you upstairs?

Speaker 4 No, it was like a, oh, have a great show tomorrow. Nice job.
Thanks so much for talking to me. Was there like a moment where it was like, am I going to kiss Mike Mayock?

Speaker 4 No, no, never. Not even a second.

Speaker 4 Did you lock eyes for a second? No, but I mean, we were walking and talking next to each other. Pure giraffe.
Right. So you

Speaker 5 guys hit it off. Let's say Mike Mayock, he initiates.
He leans in. When he gets back to his hotel, do you kiss him back?

Speaker 4 No, absolutely not. Okay, absolutely not.
Okay. All right.
All right. So, Stephen,

Speaker 4 your draft credentials are there. Seven straight years going to the draft?

Speaker 4 I believe so. 05 to 11, yeah.
And you were one of the weirdos who sat out front like waiting for the future. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 That was maybe the best day of the year because in New York, it used to be,

Speaker 4 well, I think the draft still is, it's free.

Speaker 4 But when it was at Radio City, I went to the first years at the Javit Center, I believe, and then it was at Radio City thereafter.

Speaker 4 Late April. Every weirdo that loves a team flies to New York wearing their team jerseys late April.
You just want to talk ball with other people. Absolute best.
You'd be way out there from like 6 p.m.

Speaker 4 till sometimes they didn't give out wristbands like 6 a.m., but you just be talking draft, talking football with a bunch of other hardcore football fans. Absolute best.
It is the funniest scene.

Speaker 4 I went and did a man on the street two years in a row when he was in Chicago, and it is

Speaker 4 like every guy you, every guy who've ever seen in a stadium who wears the oversized ring helmet,

Speaker 4 every guy who, you know, the super fans that are kind of pseudo-celebrities, they all hang out and they all know each other, and it's very funny to watch. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, you're standing on the line, you see, you know, a Cowboys fan come, the whole line booze.

Speaker 4 God damn it. This is just genuine fun.
All right, let's do, so we're going to do our top 10. Daniel Jeremiah, DJ,

Speaker 4 sent us, if you remember, two weeks ago, we had him on. He said that he had a list of old draft terms that he would use in the scouting department in the room, in the war room.

Speaker 4 So we said, can you send it to us? Because that's hilarious.

Speaker 5 And he sent it to us.

Speaker 4 We all have it. What we're going to do is PFT and I are going to do a top 10 picks of the terms.
So it's basically PFT and I are like in our own war room.

Speaker 4 We're going to pick a term, and then you're going to give us the player that coincides with that term, the player that best is used to describe that term in this year's draft. So let's do it.

Speaker 4 What was it?

Speaker 4 We had a unanimous number.

Speaker 5 We had a unanimous number one.

Speaker 5 It's Devontae Mac no matter what. It's

Speaker 5 one pop daddy.

Speaker 4 A one pop daddy? Okay, so that's going to be an offensive lineman typically that's going to get his hands on you and it's over.

Speaker 4 Now, in the modern day NFL, you know, you talk, or I guess not modern day, but like Larry Allen will be a one-pop daddy.

Speaker 4 In this draft class, I would say Tevin Jenkins at Oklahoma State. He is a big time blocker.
He finishes everybody, but

Speaker 4 when he gets his hands on you, it's over.

Speaker 5 So Tevin Jenkins, one pop daddy steven do you ever get uncomfortable referring to like 19 year old kids as being daddies

Speaker 4 uh

Speaker 4 no

Speaker 4 uh not in this center when we're talking football it's you know everything's kind of off limits yeah that's true all right yeah this is a normal world in here all right uh number two so we haven't discussed this but we'll discuss it on on the side here steven so so no cheating off this i think we should go i just love dumpy dumpy's good dumpy's good because it's just such a hurtful thing to say say.

Speaker 5 I feel like we both know what Dumpy is.

Speaker 4 Yes. Like Brendan Walker.
Yes. That's what I think.
No, he's at the gym now. He's at the street.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 4 All right. Our number two pick is going to be Dumpy.

Speaker 4 Okay. So this is,

Speaker 4 he's going to be a target for like a lot of this stuff, but he played right tackle at Michigan. Jalen Mayfield.
He's probably going to move inside to guard because his arms aren't.

Speaker 4 Really a required size to play on the outside. What's required size? He's like a he's your classic like bad body guy, but he's a better football player.

Speaker 4 So in the off-season circuit, where everyone's testing and they got their shirts off, like a perfect example of this with dumpy is like Andre Smith, the tackle for the Bengals, who went like six overall.

Speaker 4 He ran the 40 with his shirt off and just kind of had his, you know, man boobs flopping everywhere. That's kind of what you're going to see.
So Jalen Mayfield, dumpy.

Speaker 4 He could be a couple of terms, unfortunately. What would you like to see out of your arm size for your offensive lineman? Do you have a number? Like, is it similar to the hand size for quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. All this stuff has numbers.
So like all the testing, there is like a baseline group that you're going to want to be in. Like if a corner, and it varies by position.

Speaker 4 So like, you know, wide receiver hand size is different than quarterback hand size.

Speaker 4 40s are different. As far as offensive tackles, arm size, you're going to want to see 34 inches and above.
I believe Mayfield's like 32 and change. So that kind of limits him.

Speaker 4 Elijah Vera Tucker is a good one who played guard at USC and then moved to tackle this past season. Played very well, but his arms, I think, are 32 and an eighth.

Speaker 4 So that kind of restricts restricts him and you're probably gonna figure he's gonna kick inside the guard but what if you got wide shoulders don't those inches like make up on the inside sometimes no because most of the times you're going against uh you know edge rushers that are going to be in the you know 34 and above range when we're talking you know such close quarters

Speaker 4 inch two inches makes a lot of difference so um if if an edge rusher can get his hands inside much easier than you're able to block that that's a problem okay

Speaker 4 So, all right, next up.

Speaker 5 I've got a couple of them looking at you. Yeah, throw them.

Speaker 4 I've circled a few as well.

Speaker 5 So I've got card-carrying coward. Okay, I like that.
I think I know what it means, but I want to know what the card-carrying part of the coward means.

Speaker 5 And then I've got, wait, see, we haven't made our decision.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we haven't made our decision yet.

Speaker 5 Thin pegs.

Speaker 4 Thin pegs. Although, let's hold on to Thin Pegs because I think I know who that would be.

Speaker 4 Devontae Smith.

Speaker 4 Yeah, all right. Let's do that.
Let's think that ass is the other one that I just like because it seems like something that you would do close to Yeah, that you would do like at the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 4 Yeah, back in the store.

Speaker 5 All right, so let's do let's do card-carrying coward card with the third pick in the term draft. We select card-carrying coward.

Speaker 4 So card-carrying coward is kind of a tough one. What it means is that it's a player that doesn't have a lot of courage.

Speaker 4 So typically you're going to see this like the cornerback position, guys that necessarily don't like to tackle. Historically.

Speaker 4 Historically, and it'll debate this, but you can look at kind of one of our co-workers as not necessarily, I don't believe in in this.

Speaker 4 I don't believe that he was, but a lot of people will say he's not like a tackling guy, which is Deion Sanders. Again, I don't believe that for the record.

Speaker 4 He is this, Peter, that, but that is, that's a term where if you're looking at a cover corner specifically and they don't really, you know, mix it up or get in the pile a lot,

Speaker 4 that is what you would kind of term a card-carrying coward. There aren't a lot of guys in these, in this draft that are going to be, you know, people that are going to know.

Speaker 4 These are going to be very late round guys, if any, but card-carrying coward is kind of a tough one because we're going to look at a corner that really

Speaker 4 doesn't like to mix it up, and those guys don't get drafted a lot.

Speaker 5 Now, is that always like a cornerback, a defensive player, or could a triple C be a wide receiver like a Ted Ginn that loves a sideline?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 4 you could certainly use that term for

Speaker 4 a receiver that gets out of bounds, like Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 4 Technically, it could be like a card-carrying card.

Speaker 5 I just would not call Marvin Harrison a coward if I were you, Steven. He'll shoot you.
Yeah, you're going to be deader than Jimmy Garoppolo.

Speaker 4 I should clarify what I'm speaking. I'm speaking only within the white lines.
So, okay, so

Speaker 4 we will, you don't have anyone in the draft, so we'll just put Deion Sanders next to this, and we'll just make it clear that Stephen Chase said that. All right, next up.

Speaker 4 Next up.

Speaker 4 How about, all right, do you want to do sink that ass? The other one I really like is just sand.

Speaker 5 Let's do sand. I feel like sink that ass will still be on the board in a couple picks.

Speaker 4 So, sand.

Speaker 4 Sure. So, sand refers to like weight.

Speaker 4 um it's very hard to move a lot of sand so the guy needs more sand in his ass or on his backside they need a little bit more weight they have a little bit of a more flat ass

Speaker 4 um these are going to refer to typically like offensive or defensive linemen um

Speaker 4 sand as far as this draft class um

Speaker 4 hmm i would say

Speaker 4 uh Let's go like Liam Eichenberg, the left tackle.

Speaker 4 I was about to say that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He is a guy, you know the sandman like he's i think like 305 uh could use a little bit more weight especially in the bottom half um that's a guy who could use a little bit more sand okay okay so so that's actually an example of somebody that doesn't have sand that's what that's what the term refers to is sand they typically need more

Speaker 4 guy okay if you if you have what would be called too much sand and you're talking like bubble or like a big ass that's what that would like booth like booth from the giants was the ultimate sandman sure Biggest ass in the league.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 This is a fifth pick? Fifth pick.

Speaker 5 What about Red Star? I like that. Red Star is that.

Speaker 4 Wait, wait.

Speaker 5 Let's try to figure out what it is before he gives it. What do you think Red Star is?

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 5 maybe Always Injured. It might be like from a video game if there's a Red Star next to somebody.

Speaker 4 Where is it?

Speaker 5 Under what? It's under...

Speaker 4 Competitiveness? No.

Speaker 5 Where is Red Star?

Speaker 4 I like just...

Speaker 4 There's ones that's just fraud.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's right underneath fraud. Okay.
It's underneath fraud and fake tough.

Speaker 4 Oh, is it a communist? No, I think it's someone who's communist star.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it might be. All right, yellow belly.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Steven, red star.

Speaker 4 Sure. So red star is

Speaker 4 every team has a bunch of under in the under the GM, there's, you know, the director of player personnel, director of color scouting, et cetera, and there's a bunch of area scouts.

Speaker 4 Everybody has a red star. So that is a guy that they're basically staking their reputation on.
Like, this is my guy. I am sure he's going to do good.

Speaker 4 DJ, for example, so I don't know if that's a term that everyone uses, but DJ has talked about it a lot on his podcast. His red star guy is linebacker of Kentucky Jamie Davis.

Speaker 4 That's a guy. It's like, this guy's not going to bust.
I know that this guy is legit. He's a guy we should draft.
on our team. I am fully vouching for this guy.
I have one red star. Okay.

Speaker 4 He's my red star.

Speaker 5 I call it the stand on the table guy. That's how when I was coming, well, the red star thing seems kind of new.
In my day, it was like Kyle Shanahan stood on the table for Matt Schaub.

Speaker 4 Yep. Wait, so give us Stephen Chase red star.

Speaker 4 Red star guy, I mean, we have a bunch of like kind of short things in this drive. No, no, no, no, no.
I want Steven Chase's red star. Okay, my red star guy, honestly, Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 I don't, I think everyone's overthinking Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 The fact that he's not going to be a top three quarterback, if you went a little bit deeper than that, if we want a little bit outside the, you know, the top 10, Rashad Bateman, wide receiver out of Minnesota.

Speaker 4 I just, you know, everybody looks at the size, speed, measurables, and things like that. He's just a guy that

Speaker 4 separation as far as route running, catching, over-the-middle stuff, he's going to translate instantly.

Speaker 4 So he's probably going to be a second-round guy, maybe a late first, but Rashad Bateman, outside of, you know, Justin Fields would be my red star guy. Got it.
Okay, good one.

Speaker 5 Wait, is that your Mel Kuiper? Like, if he doesn't turn out to be a Pro Bowler, you have to quit, right? That's what Mel Kuiper did with Jimmy Claussen.

Speaker 4 Well, we'll just demote him again. Fair.
But

Speaker 4 I also have my take that Devontae Smith is not going to be a top 10 pick, which is now as of an hour ago in the varsable sports book in Illinois and Michigan. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think he's going to be a top 10 either. I'm on the record of saying that.

Speaker 4 You want to just do it?

Speaker 4 You want to explain your Devontae Smith

Speaker 4 take, and we'll just go with

Speaker 4 what was he?

Speaker 4 There's a lot of terms of Devontae Smith could be in here. Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 Thin pegs. Thin pegs.

Speaker 4 So I assume.

Speaker 4 Yep. So

Speaker 4 Devontae Smith is a guy who during the season was listed at six feet and a half, 175 pounds. He weighed in officially a couple of weeks ago at 166 pounds.

Speaker 4 I had the take during the national championship, which I get is kind of a wet blanket move,

Speaker 4 right after his second touchdown, before his third touchdown, the first half, something to the tune of, I think Devontae Smith is going to be awesome, but I cannot see a team spending a top 10 pick on a 175-pound wide receiver.

Speaker 4 And I got crushed, absolutely crushed. Everyone is calling me an idiot.
I have all the tweets saved.

Speaker 4 But the fact of the matter is, the past five years, there has been one draft where there has been a wide receiver taken in the top 10. Additionally, he is not like a height weight speed guy.

Speaker 4 He's not like a Hercules type guy.

Speaker 4 When you look at top 10 wide receiver draft picks, you're talking about Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, guys that are huge, guys that are also very fast. Devontae Smith is very good.

Speaker 4 He deserved to win the Heisman. Incredible season.
But as far as drafting, you're drafting traits over production.

Speaker 4 A great example of that is a guy out of Penn State, Jason Owe, who had zero sacks this year and is probably going to be a first rounder or a high second rounder.

Speaker 4 I mean, teams draft traits over productions, trust their coaching staff to maximize that. So you can't just be like, okay, he won the Heisman Trophy.
He's a lock, top 10 pick. He's great.

Speaker 4 Not everything's going to translate to the NFL. I do, for the record, think he will be a very good player.

Speaker 4 He's just such a natural, but his body type does not make sense as far as what teams look for, especially with a top 10 pick.

Speaker 4 Counterpoint, counterpoint, I think that we've kind of shifted a little where teams are now being a little bit more outside the box. I actually saw an anecdote.

Speaker 4 Someone shared it in the Seahawks

Speaker 4 war room the year they drafted Russell Wilson. They basically just sat there and they're like,

Speaker 4 does anyone have anything they don't like about Russell Wilson besides his height? And no one could come up with

Speaker 4 anything. They were like, no, like everything else we love.

Speaker 4 So I feel like Devontae Smith, and he might not go top 10, but it's a similar conversation where, is there anything you don't like about him besides his weight? And I don't think there is.

Speaker 4 The problem is not necessarily his weight because, like, he was listed at 175. He got, he had several months to gain weight and puff up.
He got to 166. So he was several pounds below that.

Speaker 4 There's another guy, Jeremiah Wusu Koromoa, the linebacker out of Notre Dame, who was a similar thing, rumored to be playing in like the 200 to 201 pound range. He weighed in at 200, 201 pounds.

Speaker 4 That's a huge range. Well, I'm just saying, like he's weighing in at like basically my weight.

Speaker 4 playing linebacker that is very tough to sustain as far as injury wise now he had some time got up to 221 which is still light for a linebacker but it's like okay at least this guy can put on weight devante smith just does not have the frame and i saw i think chris Chris Sims argued it.

Speaker 4 He does not have the frame to add more weight because he had several months to do so and still couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 So I don't see how he gets into an NFL program and then all of a sudden gets to like 185 or 190. He just needs more sand.

Speaker 4 He needs sand. Alabama.
Chris Sims, I think, had him going six, though, to the Dolphins.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I've actually seen a few people that have him in the top 10.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I mean, part of my take was that

Speaker 4 I had five quarterbacks going in the top 10 and then the bottom three teams in the top 10, which were um carolina denver and dallas all drafted receivers pretty high recently um so and you know carolina has you know two very high two very good picks uh dj moore not super recent but um i just didn't really see it now if miami trades down that could certainly change things and devontae smith certainly does have a chance seven is you know a maybe problem spot for the lions because at the time i thought they were going to franchise kenny galladay they did not so they do have a need there but dan campbell a guy talking about biting guys kneecaps off with his first overall pick, is he going to draft 166 pound wide receiver?

Speaker 4 That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 Well, he plays bigger than his weight. That's the thing about him.
Yeah, he is small, but I mean, he's probably the toughest.

Speaker 5 If you're going to be 166 pounds and you're going to win the Heisman Trophy, you're probably the toughest

Speaker 5 166-pound person in college football.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 he plays on special teams. He's been a gunner.
So he's definitely tough. He run blacks.
So I do like him as a player. I just don't see him being the top 10 pick.

Speaker 5 So you were talking about how you had this take when you were watching the national title game in between touchdowns two and three that he wasn't going to be a top 10 pick.

Speaker 5 Is that what your brain is like all the time? Like when you're watching the national championship,

Speaker 5 you know, a fun football game, a college football game, your brain is just thinking, like, how do these guys project at the next level?

Speaker 4 Of course.

Speaker 4 For people who don't know, Stephen Che, his team, he is a die-hard Bucs fan.

Speaker 4 Loves the Bucs. He's obsessed with the Bucs.
He had a mock draft out 12 hours after the the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Correct.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I mean, the Bucks have been bad for a very long time, and I've been so into the draft that it just made sense that I'm always looking forward, typically around like Halloween, Thanksgiving, looking at, you know, tankathons, see we're going to net out, looking at

Speaker 4 mock drafts, seeing who's going to be available.

Speaker 4 Obviously, you know, there's no better pick than 32, so I'm very happy about that. But I don't have a college football legion to a specific team.

Speaker 4 So all I'm thinking about when I'm watching college football is how are these guys going to translate to the pros. And I should have, I should have said this at the top.

Speaker 4 Stephen Shea actually went to school uh it was one of those like like trump university where you just pay someone a shitload of money and then you take a fake online course for scouting so he actually has done the the homework what degree do you have what's the what's offensive line and defensive line Offensive line, defensive line, secondary, cornerbacks and safeties, and then wide receivers.

Speaker 4 It's the Scouting Academy, and it's awesome. I mean, you can be, one of the instructors is Lewis Riddick.
So you can

Speaker 4 take scouting classes and kind of go over notes with Lewis Riddick. You took so many, how many hours did it take for you to do that? I mean, it's 20 hours a week.
So I just wanted to.

Speaker 4 We need to get you to, you need to work with Billy Football. Like the fact that you were taking 20 hours a week, have a child, like, you know, have a full-time job.

Speaker 5 God damn it. We need, you also need to include that in your email signatures.
There needs to be like an acronym that you put after Stephen Che.

Speaker 4 With PhD.

Speaker 5 Yeah, PhD, or what's the official title of the certification you got?

Speaker 4 I passed the module in the Scouting Academy.

Speaker 5 Pass the mod sick.

Speaker 4 All right, we got eight, nine, ten.

Speaker 4 Let's do that and we'll wrap it up. All right, so eight, you want to do the sink that ass? Yeah, let's do sink that ass.

Speaker 4 Good guy. Let's sink that ass.
Yep. So sink that ass is going to be a guy that's able to

Speaker 4 anchor down, which is basically, you know, if he's getting bull rush, he's able to anchor down, sink his ass, and basically stop the

Speaker 4 impending rush.

Speaker 4 So a guy that I'm going to see do this is Rashawn Slater out of Northwestern offensive tackle. I mean, he can really sink that ass.
He's, you know, 305 pounds, I think.

Speaker 4 He had his best game against Chase Young. That's what he's going to get a lot of hype for.

Speaker 4 He opted out this year, but he's a guy that, you know, when you get into him, even though he's not huge, I think he's about 6'4.

Speaker 4 He's able to sink that ass, get low, and stop a bull rush.

Speaker 4 Rashawn Slater, Northwestern, sink that ass. Okay.

Speaker 5 I just love hearing Stephen say, sink that ass. Sink that ass.
He said it like six times.

Speaker 4 All right, we got two left. We got two left.

Speaker 5 So I'm kind of interested to know the difference between naughty calves and balled up calves.

Speaker 4 All right, yeah, so let's do the combo pick.

Speaker 5 Yeah, naughty calves and balled up calves.

Speaker 5 Which one's good?

Speaker 4 So they mean, a lot of these terms mean the same thing. It's just very strong calves.
So you look at their calves and you can basically see, you know, the muscles in there.

Speaker 4 This can pertain to a variety of positions.

Speaker 4 Naughty calves.

Speaker 4 Let's go with Jamar Chase. I mean, he's, you know, 208 pounds, I believe.
He's six feet tall, very big calves, just very filled-out body. Jamar Chase, naughty calves, balled-up calves.

Speaker 4 Okay, and then last one, should we go? I actually kind of like

Speaker 5 fraud.

Speaker 4 Fraud, I know Steven Chase is not going to do a fraud. Yeah,

Speaker 4 inspector. Why don't we? No, let's just go old-fashioned.
Give us your number one coach killer in this draft.

Speaker 4 Coach killer.

Speaker 4 Oh, this is

Speaker 4 Who's a quarterback from Liberty?

Speaker 4 I hope that this becomes like bulletin board material for whoever you name here.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, I'm trying to go through the guys.

Speaker 4 Coaching regime changes is not something that I typically go through.

Speaker 5 No, but it doesn't have to be someone who's gotten their coach killed already. It could be like someone who's likely to get their coach killed at the next level.
Right.

Speaker 4 Oh, at the next level?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's a coach killer.

Speaker 4 It'd be a boomer-bus guy who, like, if you if you use a high draft pick on this guy and he he doesn't pan out he ends up being a coach killer you know what was crazy uh all-time example of a coach killer jason campbell i think five consecutive head coaches got fired in the nfl that jason campbell played for and it wasn't really his fault no he was just in like the worst situations repeatedly but i don't think that'll ever be matched again you could go you can go if you want a cop out you can go with whoever you think the bears are going to take a qb because if the bears take a qb and he's not good he's a coach killer so i i think if you're if we're putting in those terms this one's pretty easy and it's mac jones because it is from what we've heard kyle shanahan versus the personnel department in san francisco for who's going to be a third pick kyle shanahan is i don't want to say alone on the island but he very much is beating the drum for mac jones if mac does not turn out and trey lance and or justin fields turns out to be a very good player we could be witnessing the beginning of the end to kyle shanahan i'm so excited to put this on a quote card and have it like listed so that people see this and just freak out at Steven Che.

Speaker 5 Mac Jones is Mac Jones

Speaker 5 coach killer Stephen Che's official coach killer of the 2021 draft.

Speaker 4 That's a good answer though. That is a good answer because you're right.
Like if Mac Jones is not what Kyle Shanahan thinks he is,

Speaker 4 it will be tough to recover from that.

Speaker 5 Also Stephen, I got a quick follow-up on that. You said that Kyle Shanahan more and more is on an island all by himself.

Speaker 4 How do you know that?

Speaker 5 Are you just saying what you've heard people say on television?

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 i also have some sources within the league that i've talked to but a lot of it is you know stuff that you read so i mean i texted you today congrat or yesterday congratulations for making both monday morning columns um and you know it was kind of very prominent in those columns uh it talked was talked about on shepherd's podcast uh that kyle shannon kind of is on an island there so um everyone thinks shifter kind of at face value as you can see my background um yep but yeah i mean this is what you're hearing around the league and you know people i talk to kind of echo these things do you think it is weird weird that you have Adam Schefter's family in your background?

Speaker 4 No. Okay.

Speaker 4 You are the last person on earth who thinks that like Peter King, like there's he doesn't carry water for the NFL or like you take Schefter at face value.

Speaker 5 Schefter, what you see is what you get with Adam Schefter.

Speaker 4 Like if I said to you, Peter King carries water for Roger Goodell, would you disagree?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I've met Peter King twice. Really good guy.
I know that we don't have the best relationship with him at the moment. Well, he owes us money, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 but he put PFT in his column yesterday, so maybe this is the beginning of three years.

Speaker 5 Unironically, that was like Steven's. Stephen was genuinely impressed with me.

Speaker 4 And also, he texted me yesterday. I was going to answer the question, too.

Speaker 4 Do you think Peter King carries water for the NFL?

Speaker 4 Okay, no, no, I don't.

Speaker 4 I know you can. I know you don't.

Speaker 4 All right, Stephen, any other last draft thoughts? This has been positively delightful.

Speaker 4 I'll give give you guys a couple of terms that uh that I associated with a few guys. Um, some maybe I'm surprised you didn't choose.
Are these originals or no?

Speaker 4 These aren't these are DJs, these are from Degis. I mean, this is uh um

Speaker 4 uh this list is kind of it's not like 100% circulated, but this list for the most part, these are somewhat common terms.

Speaker 4 There are some original ones on here, um, but there are somewhat uh common terms like knee bender.

Speaker 4 That's going to be an offensive lineman that's typically bigger that can really get down, bend his knees. Panay Sewell is a great one for that.

Speaker 4 Um, herky jerky movements, uh, Rashad Bateman is really good for that, and a little bit less of a traditional uh route runner. Uh, what else I got here?

Speaker 4 Uh, smooth strider, Jamar Chase, long strider, Terrace Marshall, Terrace Marshall Jr. at LSU, deliberate.
I love this guy, Elijah Moore, wide receiver out of Old Miss. Yeah,

Speaker 5 um, what's another good term for a short king? Is it fire plug? Is he a fire plug?

Speaker 4 We got Twitter, we got micro-midget,

Speaker 4 which is uh

Speaker 4 Rondale Moore,

Speaker 4 the wide receiver out of purdue that's my guy and then uh jockey uh 2-2 atwell out of uh louisville he weighed in at 149 pounds i mean that is that is a tough measurement yeah um what about what is somebody who's wrapped like w-r-a-p-p-e-d is that someone who's like jacked up or someone who looks like they've got like a wrapping of fat around them Rapped, I haven't heard before, but like body beautiful or maxed out.

Speaker 4 These are terms like maxed out is like you max out your frame.

Speaker 4 Dressed up is another term where you know you're you can't really add on more weight. You're kind of at your body's maximum potential of bone mass and you know density.
All right.

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Speaker 4 Last question for you. Who has the most beautiful body in this year's draft? I'm going to give two answers here.
So on offense, we're going to look at Trey Lance.

Speaker 4 He's just kind of prototypical body you want for a quarterback, a modern-day quarterback. He's got, he's muscled up.
He's about 6'4.

Speaker 4 He can take hits.

Speaker 4 Trey Lance on offense. On defense, we're going to look at an edge rusher out of Washington.
Kind of a surprising opt-out this year, Joe Tryon.

Speaker 4 I mean, he's just... 6'5, 260, muscled up.
He's exactly what you'd want to look for as far as,

Speaker 4 body beautiful. Okay.
I love it, Stephen. Stephen, thank you so much.
I'm looking at Joe Tryon right now, and boy, is his body beautiful.

Speaker 4 That dude's rat. Yeah, without a shirt.
Yeah. Oh, definitely.
Dude, it's beautiful.

Speaker 4 All right. Stephen, thank you.
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Speaker 5 What is it again?

Speaker 5 Surf and turf. Surf and turf.

Speaker 4 Eat and run. Yep.
You're surfing and you're turfing. And I will say just to promote our show is that

Speaker 4 ESPN and NFL Network have agreed to not tip picks. We have not agreed to that.
Oh, okay. Hell yes.
We will be tipping picks. One or two might be wrong.
Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 5 let's hope we don't have a repeat of last year.

Speaker 4 Stephen, I do not want to demote you again. Still, one of the funniest things ever is when I demoted you and then you sent me a text message.

Speaker 4 You're like, I understand what you had to do here in demoting me. Um, this is all made up, but not in your eyes, it's all real.

Speaker 5 We can take away your certification from the draft program to strip you completely.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, I have emails proving that that happened. No, we'll come to your house and rip it up.
Um, all right, Stephen, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 Thanks, Stephen.

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Speaker 4 Okay, let's wrap up. We got a few FAQs.
We'll send you on your way. Friday, draft day, and maybe a little Randy Moss getting us ready for Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 5 All right, take cash, homie.

Speaker 6 Randy Moss, the football player.

Speaker 4 Yeah, not

Speaker 4 maybe.

Speaker 4 I can't.

Speaker 4 We might have played football, like, wreck football.

Speaker 5 We don't know if any of us are going to be alive by then. Two-hand touch.

Speaker 6 All right, so this was kind of what we were talking about earlier, mascots, problematic names, etc. What would you name the Cleveland Indians when their team name is disbanded?

Speaker 6 PFT probably wants them to be called the Cleveland baseball team.

Speaker 5 I was going to say

Speaker 5 the football team.

Speaker 4 I do love the Spiders.

Speaker 5 Cleveland Spiders is cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that's way back they were the Spiders.

Speaker 5 Ooh, Cleveland Midges.

Speaker 4 Cleveland Midges. I like that one.

Speaker 5 Billy's looking at me like that's a slur. A Midge is a bug that lands on your face if you're Jabba Chamberlain.

Speaker 4 What about the Cleveland Lake? Also, why not just the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 5 Baseball edition. I don't mind.
They're probably going to do like the Cleveland Rocks.

Speaker 4 Cleveland Lake is pretty good. Yeah, Cleveland Lake.
It's just a fucking lake right there. It's Cleveland Lake.

Speaker 5 What about Cleveland Rocks? Cleveland Rocks. They would tie in the Hall of Fame, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but the Master Carrick just straight up beat crack.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Sub-boys, especially our darling Jake. Are we ever going to get a throw-off between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes? Bills Mafia would be happy to host.

Speaker 4 So, yes, we want to.

Speaker 4 It's just really hard to get them together. I end up with COVID happened.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so we were going to do it last year, but then COVID.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, we've had some harebrained ideas.

Speaker 5 I think that's not so much harebrained.

Speaker 4 No, no, that's awesome to see.

Speaker 4 The execution of it, I think there was a discussion, I can't remember, who was like, we should just go to the game, and before the game, if we get on the field, maybe they'll do it.

Speaker 4 And I I was like, I don't think they'll do it before the game,

Speaker 4 like, trying to throw their arms out.

Speaker 6 I think when we went to interview Mahomes, it was like close-ish.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we were talking to Josh. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think maybe we should

Speaker 4 maybe grit week.

Speaker 6 Maybe we'll ride a tandem bike to them.

Speaker 4 But they have to be the one that's going to be. Well,

Speaker 5 the other way we could do it is if we went to both places, measured it off.

Speaker 4 No, you can't do that because of winds, because of everything.

Speaker 5 Altitude. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The lines in their practice facility not being exact. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Good point.

Speaker 5 Good point. All right, so what we should do is just, Patrick, hit us up and let us know when you're free.

Speaker 4 Josh is always free.

Speaker 6 Hello, Mr. Cat, PFT, Hank, Billy, and of course, Jake, parentheses.
I feel like he gets left out a lot of these hellos.

Speaker 6 I was wondering when there's nice. When they're, not to Liam, Bubba.

Speaker 6 I was wondering when there might be another combine with all the PMT guys minus Billy, since we know he'd probably finish last in all the events.

Speaker 6 If this were to happen again, who do you think would put up the scariest combine numbers out of all of you? I think Jake might be sneaky athletic just because of his youth.

Speaker 6 However, PFT has shown that it's his competition to lose in any jumping event. Thanks, y'all, for always making the mornings better.

Speaker 5 All right, so at this point in our athletic careers,

Speaker 5 I'm pretty sure that if we did a combine, there would be at least over under two and a half Achilles torn.

Speaker 4 Last time we did a combine for Barstool was like three years ago, and I hurt my hamstring pretty bad, so I'm retired. Do you guys remember the first assignment you sent me on outside of the office?

Speaker 4 Yes, it's not your content. The XFL combine.
This is not your content. They had me do a few of the drills in a full suit.
And it was not your content.

Speaker 5 Nope. You know what we should do?

Speaker 4 Such an outrageous thing to say. Just not your content.

Speaker 5 Just do a blogging combine. Yeah.
Just words per minute.

Speaker 5 Amount of the three-cone drill is just eating ice cream.

Speaker 5 Gifts. I would absolutely merc you guys.

Speaker 4 I don't know. You'd actually have to write.

Speaker 6 I mean, you lost your.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, no. I'm talking about the other fucking blogging combine.

Speaker 5 Oh, you're talking about the football combine.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Billy, you're in college and you lost a cornhole game today. How's that, you know?

Speaker 4 That's true. Dude,

Speaker 4 okay.

Speaker 4 You got to put some cool things. Listen, when he graduates, you're not in the weird

Speaker 4 board. You got to put some friction on the board because it just slides off.

Speaker 4 The other player didn't have a problem. If you look, yeah,

Speaker 4 whatever.

Speaker 4 Stool streams, playbar stool. We should do a combine of

Speaker 4 future plans. Billy would crush us in that.

Speaker 4 FAQ. I don't know.
Actually, I think we're pretty good. We have a lot of good ones.
I actually don't know.

Speaker 6 We have good ones.

Speaker 4 Jacob's got a lot of good ones. It actually would be our strongest across the board.
You buy my suits before Billy looks up the fan in your avatar. That's true.
Oh, geez. That's fake.

Speaker 4 That one's a dagger. I love it.

Speaker 6 FAQ, what's the deal with you guys getting guests from ESPN? The guys you have had relationships pre-Vantalk, like SVP and McShay, come on, but would ESPN ever let PFT's goat, Greeny, come on?

Speaker 4 Greenie. It seems like it's touch and go

Speaker 5 Greeny. With the ESPN people.
Greeny seems like he's best appreciated from a distance.

Speaker 4 We got to get him on.

Speaker 4 I don't think I want Greeny on him.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 5 I do. Never meet your heroes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there are certain people that, like, we were having the conversation about Dude Perfect going on tour, and we're like, oh, what if we went to it? It's like, you know what? It's better.

Speaker 4 There's definitely a few people that we should just stay away from just so that we can keep doing what we're doing. Greeny might be in that category.
Well, I don't disagree.

Speaker 5 I don't think that Greeny would be in the category of he'd show up and then we'd love Greenie so much.

Speaker 4 No, but we would feel worse. We would feel bad about making fun of him.

Speaker 6 What about Cal Turd?

Speaker 5 No, I'm done with him. I don't like Cal Turd.

Speaker 4 We actually,

Speaker 4 we asked him to come on and or he, I think.

Speaker 5 No, he invited. I think he invited himself.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when he had his podcast network.

Speaker 5 He just wanted to use us to promote his podcast network.

Speaker 5 And I do have like almost a Rico Bosco never forgive, never forget. with Colin Coward and what he did with Sean Taylor.
Never forgive, never forget.

Speaker 4 Fuck you, Coward.

Speaker 6 You're off. Skip and Steve and A.

Speaker 5 Yes. Yes.
Immediately. Hard, yes.

Speaker 4 Because Skip wouldn't get it. We would just make fun of him to his face and leave best of friends.

Speaker 4 But not lose what we would lose with a greenie or a dude perfect.

Speaker 5 I would just be afraid that Skip and Stephen A would get

Speaker 5 on the show. Greenie would be amazing.

Speaker 5 If we had them on at the same time, they would just fall in love.

Speaker 4 I think it would be tough to get them on at the same time.

Speaker 6 No, I just meant

Speaker 6 individuals. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 My girlfriend is addicted to Disney and is almost 23 and has been begging me to go on a trip with her there. Is that still weird for that age? What's the age cutoff for Disney?

Speaker 6 Is Big Cat Disney phobic?

Speaker 4 I might be. I'll hand up.
Didn't go as a kid.

Speaker 5 It might be like one of those, like, you were like, maybe, like, is it like a jealousy?

Speaker 6 Like, maybe, like, you saw all the kids going to Disney and you were like a little bit upset. I do think it's.
So you held it in deep down?

Speaker 4 I think adult Disney goers without children.

Speaker 4 That's a little weird. I think that you.

Speaker 5 So what's the age cutoff? I think that

Speaker 5 the age cutoff is probably 25, 26, because you can go somewhere as a you can do anything that you did as a child again after you turn 21, where you can legally drink there and get to experience it again, but drunk.

Speaker 5 And then after that, then it becomes weird.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the around the world, the women's soccer team

Speaker 5 got kicked out. That was kind of cool.
That's why I love U.S. women's soccer when Alex Morgan got kicked out of Disney World for getting hammered.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 If you could go back and relive any bet you made, what would it be?

Speaker 5 Relive.

Speaker 6 Relive.

Speaker 4 Like, relive in good or get to re-bet it.

Speaker 6 If you could go back and relive any bet you made, what would it be?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 You don't remember the winners. Yeah.
I would definitely go back and not take the fucking Broncos against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was...
That sucked.

Speaker 4 Sucked real bad. What?

Speaker 4 Billy?

Speaker 5 There was a can't-win parlay that hit early in the season. I was pretty sick, and I got a hedgehog.

Speaker 4 Nice. All right, there you go.

Speaker 6 Dear PFC, what are your top three Blank 182 songs?

Speaker 5 Oh, that's a good question. All right, I'm going to go with Damn It, number one.

Speaker 4 Adam's song, better be on there. No, no.

Speaker 5 It's a good song, but it's not my top three. Damn it, number one.

Speaker 4 I like

Speaker 5 Dysentery Gary,

Speaker 4 and then

Speaker 5 number wait, no, not Dysentery, Dumpweed. Dumpweed is my number two.
The number three is

Speaker 5 Apple Shampoo.

Speaker 5 Adam Solo. Fourth, Carousel.
Fifth, Travis Barker drum solo.

Speaker 4 I never thought I'd die alone.

Speaker 4 Come on.

Speaker 5 Also, Anthem Part two and Anthem Part one.

Speaker 4 Dude died alone. Yes.

Speaker 5 You know what? Anthem part two is second. Yes.

Speaker 4 Get out of here, dumpweed. All right, last one.

Speaker 6 All right, last one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we'll do the last one. You got another good one?

Speaker 6 There's a few good ones.

Speaker 6 This one's a serious one. We'll end with a funny one.

Speaker 6 Any tension, big argument, slash fight you guys have ever been in, I can't imagine traveling for Grit Week was always happy-go-lucky, or maybe someone's cleanliness or lack thereof annoyed someone to a certain point to say something.

Speaker 6 Being the bigger man and not using PFT's Mountain Deuce Bitter as an example.

Speaker 4 There's never been like a significant thing.

Speaker 4 It's just at the end of like Grit Week, we all remember that one Grit Week we did in the South, and then we all got in that Uber after we returned the RV and we just no one said a word for like 45 minutes, and then we all went to our hotel rooms.

Speaker 4 But we were all like, it was it.

Speaker 5 We were all like super pumped to not be talking. Right.

Speaker 4 It was just like, you know, there's just a point where it's like you spend every second. It's like, all right.
But there's never been like a huge, huge fight.

Speaker 5 I got, I got really mad at Jake when he mispronounced what he mispronounced the other one? Morkic. Morkich.
I got really mad at Jake when he said Morkic. Morkic.

Speaker 6 All right, last one.

Speaker 4 I see the biggest fights happen when Hank strolls in on Sunday and has the opposite of all of our fights. That's probably true.
Well, yeah, like there's a lot of that. There's a lot of like.

Speaker 4 Those aren't like big fights because they're just like yelling in the moment. Then like, all right, we're good.

Speaker 6 Like, I feel like a fight would be something that happens like off-air, like, isn't

Speaker 6 it spoken about, but like, there's a lot of

Speaker 6 like catty arguments, right? Those are like

Speaker 5 there's been some things off the air that have that have come up.

Speaker 4 TFT tried to fight me when Liam made that Photoshop that time.

Speaker 6 Like, I walked in the office. But that wasn't even.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't even say that.

Speaker 5 I wasn't trying to fight you. I just thought it was.

Speaker 4 You like cut me off with your chest out, like, square up.

Speaker 5 Sorry, I was being assertive.

Speaker 4 I cut it off your chest.

Speaker 5 No, there was was

Speaker 5 a thing that's happened off the air that we've brought onto the air a little bit is Hank's yawns.

Speaker 4 Well, even he brought it onto the air. Well, then you guys asked me, then you guys asked me to do it on the show, and

Speaker 6 people have never been madder at me than when you asked me to yawn on the show.

Speaker 4 All right, last one.

Speaker 5 By the way, Hank, I think I'm the only one here that's thanked you for putting the show up early. Yeah,

Speaker 8 we've made amends.

Speaker 6 I might have to stop doing that, though. People, it's gone too far.

Speaker 4 Yeah. People

Speaker 4 get now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it was like a joke, but now people i think are serious i can't tell uh

Speaker 6 but yeah you know jokes can't last forever yeah this weekend my friend's wife said men snore because our ball sacks cover our buttholes when we sleep is this true that actually makes perfect sense you're airtight yeah uh-huh seals you up yeah all right yeah that's a great ending and i agree with it um all right numbers 38 give me eight 99 per chilling

Speaker 5 eight eight alien has 22 whales in the caribbean have a different accent than whales outside of the Caribbean. That's like an actual fact.

Speaker 4 That's actually cool.

Speaker 4 They're echoing. 89.

Speaker 4 Steve Smith. We ever had it?

Speaker 4 October 8th. October 8th.
Love for draft night. Love you guys.
Talking away.

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