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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, presented by DraftKings, we have week 12 picks and preview for every game. We're also joined by our good friends Pete Prisco and Kyle Long together.

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Speaker 1 We are going to do choose your own adventure for the Bills Texan games because we are doing the case race tonight for the Yak.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours.
Today is Friday, November 21st, and the Bills are back.

Speaker 4 I think the Texans are going to be a frisky team.

Speaker 4 They had to keep their head above water with actually the easiest guy to keep your head above water, Davis Smiths.

Speaker 1 So we're doing a choose your own adventure for the people listening at home because we're doing the yak case race tonight. PFT, Hank, and I are all involved,

Speaker 1 which will be out on Wednesday before

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving. So we're, as you're listening to this, we are either already drunk or violently hungover.
So we watched the game, but we didn't want to get on the microphone drunk for the recap.

Speaker 1 I think the Bills won.

Speaker 4 I think the Bills

Speaker 4 won, but...

Speaker 4 did not cover. Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 1 I think the Bills blew him out. You think the bills blew him out? Give us a score, choose your own adventure.

Speaker 6 3410.

Speaker 1 34-10. Who scored for the Bills? Uh, Shakir had a baby bump.

Speaker 4 Shakir scored twice.

Speaker 6 Twice! Josh Allen scored the first touchdown.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 4 That's a great night for you. Yeah.
You're probably pretty pumped. I've got 17 to 20.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say Bills

Speaker 1 27.

Speaker 1 Texans 17. Okay.
So I have a similar score, but another 7 on the bills.

Speaker 6 Someone should pick the Texans, so he sounds smart.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take Ty. Ty.

Speaker 1 Zach 24, Ty. Zach, give us a score.

Speaker 5 Score, we're going to go 24 to 7.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 5 Texans. Josh Allen used all his Josh Allen last week.
He's got no more Josh Allen left. Wow.

Speaker 4 He has to regenerate. Wow.

Speaker 1 Beams?

Speaker 1 7-3.

Speaker 1 7-3.

Speaker 4 What a stinker. Who wins?

Speaker 1 Texans. Texans.
Okay. Let's just do a couple more games real quick.
Clippers, Magic.

Speaker 1 Magic are good.

Speaker 4 I think Paolo went off tonight. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to agree. Magic.
Kings, Grizzlies.

Speaker 1 Grizz. Everyone go check your newspaper.
The Grizz.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say the Kings. No, it's got to be the Grizz.
Tie.

Speaker 1 Bucks 76ers.

Speaker 1 Sixers coming off a back-to-back.

Speaker 4 Like the Bucks, yeah.

Speaker 6 So they're playing a back-to-back-to-back?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be... They're playing playing three in a row? No.

Speaker 1 Coming off of back-to-back? Tonight. No, tonight's the back.

Speaker 1 Tonight's the back.

Speaker 6 Second game of a back-to-back.

Speaker 4 So playoff P was back, and then after that, the Sixers went back-to-back.

Speaker 1 This is the back and the back-to-back.

Speaker 1 They're coming off of a back. No.
Oh, wait. No, no.
Coming off of back-to-back would be three games in a row.

Speaker 1 They're doing their back. They're coming off a back.
They're coming off of back.

Speaker 1 They're coming on a back. They're coming off of back.
Back two. Yeah, back two.

Speaker 4 Ben Simmons used used to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They've done a backs.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 Kardashian situation.

Speaker 1 Hawks Spurs?

Speaker 4 Spurs. Spurs.

Speaker 1 Spurs. Well, Wimby's out.
Wimby's still. But Wimby's.

Speaker 4 It stands.

Speaker 4 He's on the team.

Speaker 1 I said what I said, Wimby.

Speaker 4 He's on the team. Speaking of the Sixers, Big Cat, me and you, when we were at the Paws furball, they do a great charity there.

Speaker 4 We bid on some items in the silent auction. I showed Big Cat one of the items they had there.
It was Bulls Sixers courtside tickets. Yep.

Speaker 4 And I was like, we should maybe bid on this and try to get it for Max.

Speaker 4 Fast forward throughout the night, I was getting outbid on it. I did not know that Big Cat was the one that was

Speaker 4 sitting next to each other, accidentally bidding against each other. I found out I won the tickets at the end of the night.
Because I forgot. Yeah, you forgot about it.

Speaker 1 For the last hour, I just forgot.

Speaker 4 And Max is definitely out of town.

Speaker 1 No, wait, I also had the weekend wrong. Yeah, this is.

Speaker 4 No, no, but I looked it up. It's the day after Christmas.

Speaker 1 You're definitely out of town. Oh, shit.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 we got to find somebody else in the office to give these court sites

Speaker 1 to take it to.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Any other Sixers fans?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 You should make them fight for it.

Speaker 4 Okay, we will. Yeah, we'll make him fight.
Oh, if Connor agrees to not hire Bob Chesney.

Speaker 1 He has that type of poll. It's got to be a picture.
I mean, the guy knows who Joe Putt is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's got to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's the 26th?

Speaker 4 I think it's the 26th of December. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you remember? Oh.

Speaker 4 That's a different month than before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Sixers are here the 26th of December. Okay.
Okay. I have been saying I'll go to a game with Mikey Betts.

Speaker 6 So.

Speaker 1 You're going to be around?

Speaker 1 I am either back from Florida the 26th or 27th. Well, to take the tickets.
Okay. Might have to take the tickets.
That's that. Yeah, we were bidding against each other.

Speaker 4 Didn't even know about it. It was stupid.
It's like this asshole, some asshole.

Speaker 1 And we were trying to be nice to Max. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The last time we ever tried to do that.

Speaker 1 Max, do you want to say thank you? Thank you. I'm trying to figure out a way I can go.

Speaker 4 No, don't worry about it. You're good.

Speaker 1 Well, I would like to go. Okay.
Okay, you'd like to go. Okay, anything else before we get to the picks and preview?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Shout out to the U.S.
men's national team.

Speaker 4 Why? Hottest team in sports.

Speaker 1 I love your reaction, Hank.

Speaker 6 I was, I just

Speaker 4 have a little national pride, Hank. You're all about you.
You're a European guy. I understand that.

Speaker 4 Above all, all else, you should appreciate us taking the sport sport back from Europe.

Speaker 1 Did we? Well,

Speaker 4 we're very good right now going into the World Cup.

Speaker 1 Are we? We beat Uruguay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Were they trying?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and we had a couple starters that weren't even playing. We beat them five to one.
They were trying. They were trying.

Speaker 1 They were as hard as they can.

Speaker 4 I did not ask them. I didn't hook them up to a polka draft afterwards.
And then the U.S. men's national team's last game, their send-off before the World Cup, is going to be here in Chicago.

Speaker 1 Oh, when's that?

Speaker 4 In June. Let's go.
So we got to go to it. We got to send the boys off.
We got to be there. To what?

Speaker 1 Kansas City? Yeah, it's coming home. You got to send them off.

Speaker 4 The boys are going. The Yanks are coming.
No, it was cool.

Speaker 4 Because in the last year, we've sucked. And then now all of a sudden we're good.

Speaker 4 This is the year.

Speaker 1 We have to be good.

Speaker 4 Golden Generation.

Speaker 1 We have to be good.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 4 We will be. Max means, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 You're talking about the boys, the lads? No, no, we're talking an MLB Free Agency back here. Oh, what do you got? Josh Naylor back to the Mariners.
Yeah, I saw that. The Orioles did something.
Shota.

Speaker 1 Shoda still a cub Trentrisham back to the Yankees and

Speaker 1 oh Brandon Woodruff back to the Brewers Yamamoto is going out to dinner with the highly recruited

Speaker 1 Japanese guy yes I mean he's going to the Dodgers the Japanese guy there's multiple Japanese guys I know but they're all going to the Dodgers yeah the number one guy is going to the Dodgers and it makes sense and Kyle Tucker's going to go to the Dodgers too yeah probably

Speaker 1 okay that was our where's Schwarber going Schwarber the Pirates were in the did you see that rumor no shot the Pirates. Why not? No shot.

Speaker 4 I feel like the Pirates version of them actually signing a big free agent would be just leaking it that they're thinking about something.

Speaker 1 Correct. That was

Speaker 1 mean.

Speaker 4 This is their red meat to the fan base. Be like, look, we tried.

Speaker 1 I saw some Pirates fans saying I'm all the way back in if they sign Kyle Schorber. So mean.

Speaker 1 I think Schwerber's going to go Phillies,

Speaker 1 Reds, or Cubs. The Pirates are not a singular Kyle Schwarber away from competing in the NL.
Yeah, but they would be better. They need, obviously.
At least.

Speaker 1 You put Kyle Schorber on the Pirates.

Speaker 1 Are they contenders in the NL?

Speaker 1 If he hits 150 home runs,

Speaker 1 maybe.

Speaker 1 If he hits 150 home runs for the Pirates next year, they will be in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 150 home runs. I think they need four.
That's so many home runs. So many home runs.
That's so many home runs. They got to have

Speaker 1 the ski. They would win every ski.
Yeah. I think

Speaker 4 they need four Kyle Schwarber's.

Speaker 1 How many home runs could Kyle Schwarber hit for the Pirates to get to the playoffs? Someone do the math on that. Of like the Pirates run differential.
They got to have some young guys coming up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that they're going to be. I got to be honest.
I don't know Pirate.

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar with Skeens. I know Skeens.
I know Penskeans. Well, I know their owner is a fucking shithead.
Yeah, fuck. He's in the shithead group.

Speaker 1 And they have a good ballpark that I would like to go to someday.

Speaker 4 I am the captain now.

Speaker 1 We should do a

Speaker 1 just shithead owner podcast where

Speaker 1 we just list them all. Maybe like, Zach, put this down.

Speaker 1 Mid-July, just one day when we got nothing going on, we're just going to start fucking naming out all the shithead owners.

Speaker 4 Do that. You want to be on this list.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and guess what? If you're a shithead owner listening right now, you have until mid-July to fix it. That's, we're giving a warning.

Speaker 1 Because you don't want us to say your name and probably get some facts wrong and nothing to really happen from it.

Speaker 4 It's a body of evidence of a lot of shithead owners. There's gonna be a lot to overcome in six months.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know why we're getting shamed for this, by the way. Hannah Montoya, who we love, she's our colleague.

Speaker 1 She said, inside Scoop, I looked at their phones yesterday, and neither Big Cat or PFT have their Twitter on dark mode. What the fuck? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I never have. So what?

Speaker 1 So? Come at me. I don't like dark mode.
What are you laughing about memes?

Speaker 1 You think we're old? Do you have it on dark mode? I have it on dark mode.

Speaker 1 I got bad eyes on.

Speaker 4 I don't like dark mode. It hurts my eyes when I look at dark mode and then the lines from all the lines of text, they go into the next thing that I look at.
Agreed. I like light mode.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Same. I agree.
What are you on, Hank?

Speaker 7 Light.

Speaker 4 That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, meaning. Leave us alone.

Speaker 8 I don't like to be shamed, okay?

Speaker 1 But you're on light mode right now.

Speaker 1 You could get on desktop, too. Yeah.
You can do it on desktop. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Max is on light mode. You haven't had 141?

Speaker 1 Those girls upstairs, they shame us. I got shamed for wearing sneakers and jeans the other day.
Yeah, all they do is they

Speaker 4 stand behind pillars and giggle.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Your technology, your choice, pick out.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Zach.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves.
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We're getting there, PFT. We're getting closer and closer.

Speaker 4 It's going back and forth between being excited about football and being sad that it's almost over.

Speaker 1 It's almost over. So this week we do have four buys.

Speaker 1 We're getting, I think there's buys after Thanksgiving as well, but we're getting close to the end of the buys. The Commanders are on a buy.
That's got to make you excited.

Speaker 4 I am very excited.

Speaker 4 It's a great weekend to be a football fan in Washington, D.C. this weekend.
Maybe the best of the year.

Speaker 1 So the Dolphins, the Chargers, the Commanders, and the Broncos all on buys. We have some games where the lines are very large.
We have some 13.5 point spreads. It's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 But we also have some big leverage games. The biggest, obviously, is going to be the, I believe, the Bears and Steelers, where if the Bears win, they have a 71% chance of making the playoffs.

Speaker 1 If they lose, they have a 45% chance of making the playoffs. If the Steelers win, they have a 63%.

Speaker 1 chance. And if they lose, they have a 37% chance.
So big swings.

Speaker 1 Other big swings, I think the Lions and Packers have big swings if they lose. The Panthers have a huge swing if they win.
So this is fun. We're getting down to it.

Speaker 4 And we got potentially the biggest swing of them all, which is... The Booger game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Colts and Chiefs.

Speaker 4 The Chiefs will be projected to not make the playoffs per Booger McFarland. Yeah.
If they lose that game.

Speaker 1 They will go from 68% to 35%

Speaker 1 if they lose that game. Okay, let's get into them.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a fun Sunday. We have not the best afternoon sleep, but the first, the one o'clocks are going to be fun.
So let's start.

Speaker 1 Steelers at Bears. Bears minus two and a half.
Is Aaron Rodgers playing is the big question.

Speaker 4 We don't know. My guess is that he is.
I think that

Speaker 4 I think he's going to do everything that he can possibly do to try to play. If you're Aaron Rodgers, that means maybe the return of Perk Rogers.

Speaker 4 I think it's probably more likely the return of Crystals Rogers. He's probably got like a whole setup with Dreamcatchers.
He's got the Etsy Witch coming up.

Speaker 4 Actually, no, he's already married married to an Etsy Witch, right?

Speaker 1 We don't know, but we think.

Speaker 4 So she's definitely putting spells on it. Yep.
He will be playing, I think, on Sunday. It's hard for me to imagine him taking,

Speaker 4 passing up the opportunity for one last chance to play against the Bears. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 That is my fear of this game is Aaron Rodgers, who I don't think is an elite quarterback anymore, will become an elite quarterback because he wants to stick it to the Bears one last time.

Speaker 6 But better Rodgers than Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 1 Agreed.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 That's just

Speaker 4 not true. You would much rather play against Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 1 I would. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 But last week you said Mason Rudolph's better quarterback.

Speaker 1 No, I said there's not a huge difference between the two that people like people think there's a huge difference. I do not think there's a huge difference.

Speaker 1 The only difference is Aaron Rodgers wants to stick it to the Bears.

Speaker 1 If this was against another team, I think it would be kind of a toss-up because I just think Rodgers' mobility is limited. But I do not want to play Aaron Rodgers.
I want to win the game.

Speaker 1 I think we have a better chance of beating Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 4 100%. Yes.
Yes. But I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is going to give up the opportunity to play in Chicago one more time.
Now, this is big cat. If we're just

Speaker 4 speaking neutrally about this game,

Speaker 4 if this was against another team that is like a carbon copy of what the Bears have done this year,

Speaker 4 this would be a game where you would say this is Mike Tomlin game.

Speaker 4 You might be on the receiving end of the Mike Tomlin game is what I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's under a field goal.

Speaker 1 Usually Mike Tomlin would be like, it'll be like a four and a half underdog point to underdog, and then they do it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. And they're also coming up, they're coming off a win, so that's not, that in itself is not a Mike Tomlin game.
Mike Tomlin games are usually off a loss, underdog on the road.

Speaker 1 Everyone's buried them.

Speaker 4 Boom. I feel like if it's Mason Rudolph, you're more in the Mike Tomlin game zone.
That could be

Speaker 4 Tarren Rodgers.

Speaker 1 So this game,

Speaker 1 I gave you the gateway game after week two. I have decided that the Bears on Sunday are starting a seven-game series, and they have to win the seven-game series to get to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 They have to go four and three to get to the playoffs. Game one is Sunday.
Got to try to win game one.

Speaker 4 Game one at home. Game one at home.

Speaker 1 And I'm very excited. The Bears have been an exciting, fun watch.

Speaker 1 I'm getting, I'm, I'm starting to get my hopes up a little, but this is a big one because knowing what's coming down the stretch, but the Bears controller

Speaker 1 were in mid-November. Just thinking about last year,

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving was the horrific Matt Eberflues

Speaker 1 clockgate in Detroit getting fired. Now we're a year away, a year past that.
Ben Johnson has his thing turned around seven and three. People want to call the Bears frauds.

Speaker 1 I still don't really understand that because I don't think there's a lot of people who are like the Bears are an awesome, awesome team.

Speaker 1 I think they're a good team that is getting better every single week. And to be frauds, you'd have to be like, you know, 10 when the Steelers were, what was it, 11-0?

Speaker 4 And it was like worst 11-0 team ever.

Speaker 4 I think with the Bears, it's like almost a compliment that they're calling you frauds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people just want to

Speaker 1 shit on any success the Bears have. That's fine.

Speaker 4 But you can't really shit on it. That's like for a team that hasn't had any success recently, that's correct.

Speaker 4 I looked at that as a compliment last year when I was being called a fraud. It was like, yeah, you're being called a fraud.
That means that you're winning football games.

Speaker 4 It's an honor to be fraudulent.

Speaker 1 The Bears, so this is a testament because I've said this many times this year, like that's a game the Bears would never win. And there's data to back it up.

Speaker 1 The Bears this year are 4-3 when down 4-plus points at any point in this game, in the game. So they're 4-3 when they have a deficit of 4-plus points.

Speaker 1 From 2016 to 2024, they were 25-86 in those exact spots, 23%.

Speaker 1 So essentially, if you just got a lead on the Bears, it was over. That's not the case anymore.
I also love that the Steelers are nervous about Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 They brought in John Reese Plumley to mimic his elusiveness. I like that.
That's fun. And I'm, yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 I think, here's my prediction, too.

Speaker 1 Not, maybe not this game, but I think within the next month, the Bears are going to have a full-on breakout game where their offense puts everything together and the defense is getting healthier.

Speaker 1 Kyler Gordon has opened his practice window. Jalen Johnson has opened his practice window.

Speaker 1 I think there's going to be a game in the next, like three or four weeks where the Bears put it all together and it looks awesome. So I'm excited.

Speaker 1 Last thing I had on this game is we, Darnell Washington admitted how much he weighs.

Speaker 4 311 pounds.

Speaker 1 367, 311 pounds. So we've got to keep it a buckham, 311 pounds.
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 That's so big. And you know what? When I saw that, I told Arion about that and Arion said that imagine how good he'd be if he got down to 280.
And I said, no, you don't get it.

Speaker 4 You don't understand the allure of Mount Washington.

Speaker 4 It'd be better if he got up to 330. Yeah.
I think he could still move pretty good at 330 pounds. He's one of the best blocking tight ends in the game.

Speaker 4 And the fact that he's able to catch and run like that, it's incredible. Yeah.
I love watching this guy play. I would like it even more if he was heavier.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, are you going to put the Steelers in your hungry dog?

Speaker 6 Hey, I got to see whose a quarterback is.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking about it. But you're thinking about it.
You're thinking about it.

Speaker 4 Okay, so that means if it's Aaron Rodgers, yes.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 That's what that answer meant.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also crazy. Is he going to play with just no left hand? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I don't want to put a guy in the hungry dog who's doing it just because, like,

Speaker 5 I don't think.

Speaker 4 That's a hungry dog, though.

Speaker 1 No, but if you have a player,

Speaker 6 well, I've played good against them in my career, so naturally I'm going to play good now. I just don't know that that's the case if he has a completely broken left hand.

Speaker 4 Would that mean that he would be handing the ball back-handed one direction? I don't know. I don't know.
He'd be getting any snaps under center would be getting snapped directly into that left ring.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's got to go one way, yeah.

Speaker 5 that would that would probably hurt.

Speaker 4 Uh, he's probably gonna get it shot up with a bunch of cool stuff, he's gonna really enjoy that. But I mean, you don't throw either left-hand unless you're like Mahomes or Josh Allen sometimes.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 4 I think he's gonna play.

Speaker 1 I do have a bet for everyone, too. I think this is the Colson Loveland.
He already has had kind of a breakout game, obviously, that game-winning touchdown against the Bengals.

Speaker 1 I don't see any props up yet, but Colson Loveland, big game. That's my prediction.

Speaker 4 And the Bears win.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go to the next game: Patriots at Bengals. Hank,

Speaker 1 the Bengals are six and a half point underdogs, over-unders, 50.5. Joe Burrow? Are we getting Joe Burrow?

Speaker 4 We might get Joe Burrow. So

Speaker 4 he was a full participant in 11-on-11 work to start the week. And they asked Zach Taylor about it, and he did not say no.
when they asked him if he was going to start this weekend. Okay.

Speaker 4 So we don't know, but it's not a no yet.

Speaker 1 Do you want to see Joe Burrow or Joe Flacco?

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 6 It's similar to the Steelers thing. It's like, I don't know.
I kind of think playing Joe Burrow coming off an injury might be better than Joe Flacco. He might have some rust.

Speaker 1 Definitely has some rust.

Speaker 4 So this is my prop of a lifetime this weekend. It's Drake May to throw 300 yards for the first time, plus 264.
I put it in before the show started. I feel like this is the week.

Speaker 4 I've timed Drake May pretty good this year. I called his first win against a team with a winning record.
I nailed that one. I feel very confident.

Speaker 4 Going up against that defense, the Bengals defense, you can't help but throw 300 yards against them.

Speaker 1 They're historically one of the worst defenses ever.

Speaker 4 They're so bad. They're so bad.

Speaker 4 They actually could become the first team, I think, in the entire Super Bowl era to finish dead last in rushing yards allowed, in points allowed, and passing yards allowed. The stinky hat trick.

Speaker 6 Why would Joe Burrow come back?

Speaker 4 Because he wants to play. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. He likes to play football.

Speaker 4 He likes to play football, and he'd rather play football than not play football. I think also, to a certain extent, he gets

Speaker 4 if you're getting paid that much money, you probably, there's something in you that makes you want to go out there and earn it.

Speaker 1 Hank, is there a chance Drake may listen to this show and maybe is a big fan of Max?

Speaker 1 Because did you see in a press conference this week, he was asked about leading the NFL in passing yards, completion percentage, and more.

Speaker 1 And he said, probably the reason I am is we haven't had a buy yet. He took Max's quote.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't think that was the most original take from that.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was just asking a question.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that wasn't even a take. That was a fact.
No, it wasn't a fact. It was just a fact.

Speaker 1 And he just repeated the fact. He might not have known that he didn't have a buy yet until he listened to Max say they haven't had a buy.
You can't say that's a 0%.

Speaker 6 No, I like that. I would love if Drake listened to the show.

Speaker 1 Shout out Drake. Shout out Drake, yeah.
Shout out Drake. I think Drake May is good, but if you're going to say he's leading the league and passing, you have to talk about how he's going to be.

Speaker 1 You have to talk about that.

Speaker 6 It's not really. You also, but if you look at the the passing leaders,

Speaker 6 he is defeating all of them.

Speaker 1 He would be fifth. Well, if you look at the passing leaders, which is still very good, but like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's going to look at your passing leaders.

Speaker 6 He's going to be 350 yards this week, so then that's going to give you a lot of money.

Speaker 6 350.

Speaker 4 We're jumping up to 350.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know, right?

Speaker 6 You've nailed Drake May all the way. You can make that your problem.
You can nail him in the draft, but like you have ever since then, you've got to be a fighter.

Speaker 1 That is me.

Speaker 1 I've had Mike Steele on the DraftKings Sportsbook 350 plus.

Speaker 4 Had my finger on the pulse of Drake May. I'm the Drake May whisperer.

Speaker 1 Facts.

Speaker 1 Are you nervous at all about this game?

Speaker 6 Yes. Like you said, it's a seven-game series for the Bears.
Patriots are in kind of like a. This is the preseason, and you just can't.

Speaker 6 They got six games left. I am definitely worried about a letdown coming.
I think the Bills and Ravens, if they lose either one of those games, it's not a letdown.

Speaker 6 But one of these, yeah, Bengals, Giants, Dolphins, Jets. You can't.
Those are the games you have to play. That's who you're playing?

Speaker 1 Wait, say it again?

Speaker 6 We have Bills and Ravens.

Speaker 6 Bengals, Giants, Dolphins, Jets.

Speaker 1 Gauntlet.

Speaker 1 I can't believe you're offended that we said that he had a buy.

Speaker 1 It's insane.

Speaker 6 When did I get offended?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you were offended. I was not.

Speaker 4 Well, no, it was a fact. You can't get offended.

Speaker 1 I was offended. I was merely

Speaker 1 don't.

Speaker 6 I merely stated if you look at the top of the leaderboards, he is at the top.

Speaker 4 Is this similar to

Speaker 1 fact?

Speaker 1 Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4 So, Hank, last year, you remember you when you played the uh you played the bengals that week one yep dumped gator eight on mayo that sounds disgusting that might be the worst possible combination of a sauce ever uh do you feel maybe uh this is the exact same game just the other way around i did think that earlier that's the letdown it's it's it's because they were i think seven point favorites last year in week one eight and a half uh-huh seven yeah it was around seven to eight um but yeah kind of a similar vibe uh but you you did dodge a bullet.

Speaker 4 No Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by the way, Jamar Chase is.

Speaker 6 I feel like that's going to hold Burrow back from playing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, No Jamar Chase is huge, but more than anything, I feel like suspending McGame is fine.

Speaker 1 The check,

Speaker 1 $507,000, half a milli for one game.

Speaker 4 That's brutal. That's an expensive Lugie.

Speaker 1 You need to get...

Speaker 1 Like, everyone should just figure out a way to get it all in signing bonus. So if you do end up spitting on someone and they start posting how much you get paid per game, it's like $30,000.

Speaker 1 Because that's, I saw that. I was like, fuck, dude.

Speaker 1 That's not just a little fine.

Speaker 4 Could you do spit insurance? Could players buy spit insurance? Like, in case I get suspended this year, I'd like to be covered. Right.

Speaker 1 Like Aflac.

Speaker 6 Did you see the person who denied the appeal?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was Jordy Nelson.

Speaker 6 You think receivers, like, there's some type of bond.

Speaker 1 I denied it first, but yeah.

Speaker 4 Spit brothers?

Speaker 6 I was surprised by that.

Speaker 4 I was not really shocked that Jordy Nelson said, no, you're going to be suspended for a week. That feels fair to me, but I was actually thinking more about the Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 6 But isn't being a wide receiver like a brotherhood? Like, you got to have each other's backs and stuff.

Speaker 4 Everyone gets one spit.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 If it was Jalen Ramsey, he should get suspended, but it's like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would think that the wide receivers would have each other's backs. I agree with that.

Speaker 4 I think cornerbacks would have gotten two weeks if you spit, but one week for a wide receiver, that sounds...

Speaker 4 That sounds right. Jordy Nelson, he's working in the corporate office now.
You know how the corporate life goes, Hank. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You sell out, and then all of a sudden you don't have your guys' backs anymore. That's kind of what Jordy Nelson's up to.
That's what I think is happening at least.

Speaker 4 But I do think that Jalen should be allowed to spit on somebody else.

Speaker 4 Spray it forward. Yeah.
Like if you get spit on, then you then have that spit in your pocket that you could use.

Speaker 1 I just, I stand pat. I think there should be a designated spitter on every team.
This guy is the captain of spinning today. If he spits, he's allowed to.

Speaker 1 And then you just get two guys spitting at each other if things get nasty.

Speaker 4 Sounds kind of hot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds really hot. Spit each other's mouths.
Okay. Giants, Lions, Lions minus 10.5.
Over under is 50 and a half.

Speaker 1 So when Dan Campbell and Jared Goff started in Detroit, remember they went 3-13 the first year. The second year, they started 1-6,

Speaker 1 and then everything started to get better. And they, you know, they finished that season strong.
Then

Speaker 1 they won 12 games and they won 15 games.

Speaker 1 I bring this up because the last time the Lions have lost back-to-back games is that 2022 year, the second year for Campbell and Goff, when they started one and six, they lost their fifth and sixth game, and then from that point forward, they are 40-13 overall, and they have not lost back-to-back games.

Speaker 1 The Lions are coming off a loss. They're going home.
They're going against the Giants, who

Speaker 1 are the first team that can officially be eliminated from the playoffs this weekend.

Speaker 1 And I think the Lions are going to have their way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think the Giants will be eliminated from the playoffs this weekend. Yeah.
I think that's that's probably what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 It was a bad scene in Philly for Detroit, but they're going to be back home. They're going to be under the dome.
It's going to be controlled environment, controlled weather.

Speaker 4 I feel like this is going to be Jameer Gibbs. This is going to be the Jameer Gibbs game.

Speaker 4 Maybe the Jameer Gibbs game to end all Jameer Gibbs games. Yes.
The Giants' rushing defense is very, very poopy, super poop. And Jameer Gibbs is ready to go off.

Speaker 4 And I feel like this is going to be, if you're a Jameer Gibbs owner in fantasy football,

Speaker 4 my advice would be start him. Yeah.
I would start Jameer Gibbs. Big time start.

Speaker 1 Big time start. And a little David Montgomery, too.
Yeah, Springer. Because I think Jameer Gibbs might get tired from all the yards.

Speaker 4 He might. Yeah.
He might actually just get exhausted. And by the way,

Speaker 4 I know Jerry listens to the show, so he'll end up hearing this, but he knows. Jerry has been the most desperate person in the group chat I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Where are we at fantasy-wise?

Speaker 4 Well, we can check the stats right now, but one stat off the top of my head is I'd say 90%

Speaker 4 of the text messages in the fantasy football group chat over the last week have been from Jerry asking people if he's seen his trade requests.

Speaker 4 He is

Speaker 4 putting it out to everybody. He's that guy.
And he is just saying, non-stop, please look at trades. Please turn down counter and trades.
Trying to get a deal done. Everyone has a trade offer from me.

Speaker 4 I just sent trades out. You guys should have trades.
Fellas, trades are still out there. Accept or decline.
No hard feelings. This is the last day, I believe.
When is our deadline?

Speaker 4 I just sent out a trade. You just received a trade option from me.

Speaker 4 You have a face. Call me any, or he sent a picture of himself and said, guys, this is me.
Just so you have a face to go with it. Call anytime.

Speaker 4 I'm about to grab lunch with my wife, but I will tell her that this is business if I get a trade offer. Got more trade deals out there.
More trade deals than the Trump administration. Run the numbers.

Speaker 4 Trade deadline this week. Our whole team is for sale.
I'm about to send out all of our trades, all caps, only mutually beneficial.

Speaker 1 What are the times on these messages? Like, what is the?

Speaker 4 Well, they started Tuesday at noon, and they went pretty much non-stop.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love it. For how long?

Speaker 4 About, I'd say, 36 hours. Oh, I love it.

Speaker 6 With no one responding. No one

Speaker 1 just waiting.

Speaker 4 No, they stopped this morning at 1 a.m. Run those numbers.

Speaker 1 We got to get those trades.

Speaker 4 We got to get the trades done.

Speaker 4 Jerry, it does reek of desperation.

Speaker 1 I would say so. Everything you just read was the most desperate thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 4 So I don't have a whole lot of confidence in our team moving forward, but we'll see. At least we're buyers at the trade deadline.

Speaker 1 This is what we want Jerry to do, though.

Speaker 1 We want him to be going as hard as he's going. This is why he's our manager.

Speaker 1 We don't want him sitting idly by and letting another year pass by where he's got a hole in his driveway and we have to maybe dangle Adam Schefter in his face again. I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 I want to raise a banner.

Speaker 4 I do have an update on the standings in the league this year. Okay.
We're in second place. Oh.

Speaker 1 And we're this desperate?

Speaker 4 We're this desperate, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's like the Eagles. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 He's Howie. Jerry is our fucking Jerry.

Speaker 4 I love that. We're 7-4-0.
It looks like we have the third highest total of points scored this season, so it's not a Mickey Mouse 7-4-0.

Speaker 4 I'd like to see what happened in those losses, what we learned from that.

Speaker 6 But yeah,

Speaker 4 we're in prime position right now to go in a little run.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love it.
Okay, so we all agree Lions are going to, this is going to be, I hope we get Jameis. I don't think we are.

Speaker 4 I think Jackson Dart might be back. He might be back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would like to see Jameis, though. Okay, next game.
Vikings at Packers. Packers minus six and a half.
Over-under is 41.5.

Speaker 1 We got some J.J. McCarthy discourse going on.
He said this week, coming in here, I was taught how to play quarterback a very different way.

Speaker 1 And when asked, how hard it is to rewire, he said, it's really hard. You're rewiring neurological pathways, and that's not something that happens overnight.

Speaker 6 That's so relatable. Why?

Speaker 6 I just, I understand.

Speaker 1 Oh, lefty golf? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just know that you don't want to have your quarterback saying they're having to rewire

Speaker 1 neurological pathways in the middle of the season.

Speaker 4 I've never been more confident in anything that if you check his recently listened to podcasts, you will find the Dr. Huberman podcast back-to-back to back to back.

Speaker 4 That's how he's definitely listening to that guy, doing extra cold plunges, probably,

Speaker 4 grounding himself at all points. This seems like nine might have, this might be the awakening of nine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, I've seen a lot of nine o'clock this weekend.

Speaker 1 Because you see, you know, there was the tweet that was like, hey, Justin Jefferson was awesome with Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Nick Mullins, Carson Wentz, Josh Dobbs, Jaron Hall,

Speaker 1 Sean Manion. I don't know if he was, maybe I'm forgetting.
Was Jaron Hall more than one game? Because I don't...

Speaker 4 It might have been one half. It was good Jaron Hall.
I feel like it was one good half.

Speaker 1 I think he might have played the Packers in one game. Either way, there's a lot of freaking out right now when it comes to J.J.
McCarthy in Minnesota. I think I'm going to buy stock now.

Speaker 4 I think both teams. Buy the dick.
Both these teams are freaking out right now. Yeah.
Both fan bases are like, what do we have? What is it that we're working with?

Speaker 4 The Packers are freaking out because they had all the expectations in the world.

Speaker 4 And it seems like the discourse that we've been having around the Eagles is the discourse we should be having around the Packers in terms of like the questioning the team. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because Packers fans are not happy with the offense. I don't know how they can be.
And Vikings fans are like, I don't, we, it's like second to second whether or not we have a quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I saw some of the throws that JJ had last, excuse me, that nine had last week. And there were a few that were just like,

Speaker 4 I don't know if this is fixable. I can put it then again.
I did not, I did not take take into account rewiring his neurological pathways.

Speaker 1 I just looked it up. The Jaron Hall game, Justin Jefferson had five catches for 59 yards.
So I don't know if we had Jaron Hall to

Speaker 4 like.

Speaker 4 I just remember being surprised that Jaron Hall looked competent for a half. Yeah.
And we put that in KOC's resume. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you say, Hank?

Speaker 6 JJ McCarthy, week one, played like absolute dog shit, but then he had the fourth quarter comeback. Everyone was kind of singing his praises.

Speaker 6 He had a fourth quarter comeback on Sunday. If they win that game, what does the discourse look like?

Speaker 4 That's what I would have loved to have seen. Not because the biggest.

Speaker 1 He would have been a winner. He would have been a winner.

Speaker 4 He would have been a winner. He's a winner.
He wins football games. The intangibles.

Speaker 6 So I do feel like it's a little bit over. They're like over freaking out.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Are you saying that we

Speaker 1 react like knee-jerk reactions just based on wins and losses?

Speaker 6 But it's like sky is falling. There's obviously knee-jerk reactions.
I know. I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 This is exactly how everyone is.

Speaker 6 I would say it's an over

Speaker 6 quarterback. Over-exaggeration.

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 4 if he had won that game, then, yeah, I would really enjoy the discourse surrounding J.J. McCarthy this week.
It would have been incredible.

Speaker 4 But the fact that he lost, I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's also a rookie.

Speaker 4 But it sounds like you're also taking the side of... Think about it.
He actually kind of did win that game last week. We should be talking about him as a winner.

Speaker 4 Which I'm okay with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the problem that J.J. McCarthy has is he stepped into a situation where it was, again, a 14-win team last year, and KOC has been dubbed the QB Whisperer.
So that's where he gets hurt.

Speaker 1 I actually saw someone, a Vikings fan, point it out that what the Vikings really should do is cut JJ McCarthy so he's a bust and then sign him back so he's a reclamation project then he'll be good that's a genius take I think was that skull who is that skull Chris I think so skull something yeah anyways yeah it's a great point I'll try to find it I think that they should actually they should heavily consider that

Speaker 1 I think the Packers are going to win this game I think the Packers defense is what's going to carry it. The Packers have a very tough schedule down the stretch.
So, this is a must-win for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 4 Matt LaFleur right now is

Speaker 4 he's also not happy with the state of the Packers fanbase.

Speaker 1 It was Skull Cole, Skull at Skull Smith. Cut J.J.
McCarthy officially declaring him a bus, sign McCarthy, former draft bus, and have KOC fix him. Smart.
We also had J.J.

Speaker 1 McCarthy's, I think, high school quarterback

Speaker 1 released a letter because he called Chris Carter a clown or a dumbass and then he released an apology letter.

Speaker 4 That's just too much. His high school quarterback?

Speaker 4 Coach. Oh, his quarterback coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. His high school coach.

Speaker 1 He called him a fucking clown and he released, look, he released a full letter.

Speaker 1 I respect that.

Speaker 4 You got to stand up for me.

Speaker 1 I want to offer my sincere apology for my recent remark directed toward Mr. Carter, in which I referred to him as a fucking clown in response to his comments about the Vikings quarterback play.

Speaker 1 While I will always stand up for someone I love, like my own son, my choice of words was completely unacceptable. You didn't need to release something here, buddy.

Speaker 4 Is he apologizing for the fucking part or the clown part?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but it was, I don't think anyone cared.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't hear about it until just now. But yeah, Matt LaFleur is not happy with the state of the Packers fan base.

Speaker 1 He's a QB trainer. He was JJ McCarthy's QB trainer.

Speaker 4 He put them on notice this week. What did he say? He said, hopefully our fans will show up in droves and not sell their tickets to the Vikings fans.

Speaker 4 We've seen that happen before.

Speaker 1 I like this.

Speaker 4 So he's kind of sort of blaming the fans. Listen, everybody's got a piece of the blame blame pie, fans included, going into this weekend.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 this is a guy that's starting to feel the pressure. He's starting to lash out at the Packers faithful, at his own owners, actually.

Speaker 4 He's actually mad at his bosses. He's blaming his bosses for this, which is not a great trait to have.
I agree. I think that the Packers are going to win.

Speaker 4 There's also a major storyline developing between the rivalry between these two fan bases going to this weekend. Do you remember last year what they did before the game in Minnesota?

Speaker 1 I do not.

Speaker 4 There was a giant tug-of-war that took place on the bridge that goes over the river that forms the border between Minnesota and Wisconsin. I like this.
The two states are all about reciprocity.

Speaker 4 We know that. They did a giant tug of war, and it was on, yeah, the St.

Speaker 1 Croix, St. Croix River.

Speaker 4 Yep. Is when they did it.
St.

Speaker 1 Croix, Wisconsin. It's a place I've actually been many times.
It's a really fun city.

Speaker 4 So there's a historic bridge that spans this river. There was a 150 versus 150 tug of war match that happened.
They raised money for first responders that service that entire area.

Speaker 4 So it sounds like a good charity. The Packers won last year.

Speaker 4 They're trying to run it back.

Speaker 4 But the bridge, I think it's the Stillwater Bridge.

Speaker 4 The bridge denied them. The bridge said, no, I'm not open for business.
I believe the quote from the bridge was,

Speaker 4 we're in the transportation space, not the party planning space.

Speaker 4 So you can take your Mickey Mouse tug of war elsewhere.

Speaker 1 We care about it. We got a job to do.
The bridge bridge just said, we got a job to do.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's like, okay, this is enough. We gave you last year, but I got things to do on a Sunday.

Speaker 4 So they had to find a new bridge. So they found a new bridge, but it's no longer a neutral site game now.

Speaker 1 It's in Wisconsin?

Speaker 4 Now it's in Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 It's near Pier 500.

Speaker 4 They're still going to do it, and it's going to be about the same, like 150, 200. But it doesn't have the same.
But it doesn't have the same.

Speaker 4 It feels like it's a home game for Wisconsin at this point, not a true neutral site. But I did appreciate the owner said maybe this is the start of a compromise.

Speaker 4 Maybe we switch every other year, or whoever wins gets to host next year, because that's how it worked out this year. Packers fans won last year, so Hudson is hosting this year.

Speaker 1 It should be about the game, though, because I think the Vikings won both games last year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, whoever wins the football game.

Speaker 1 That should be who gets to host it.

Speaker 4 I agree. Should get to host the next year's.
And I don't know how they decide.

Speaker 4 I guess that'd be a perfect way to decide which game they do it on. Yeah.
Because the teams obviously play each other twice. But I've got all eyes on the tug of war.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think I'm leaning towards Green Bay and that one as well, given the home environment.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Turtle Lake Casino in St. Croix, Wisconsin.
Lost a lot of money there.

Speaker 4 Great place.

Speaker 1 It's the type of place that you can go with some friends and go to a bar that probably is also a bowling alley, drink for like four hours, and then they eat some cheese curds, and then they give you your tab, and it's like, that will be $22, sir.

Speaker 1 It's like, what do you mean? I drank 40 beers.

Speaker 1 That's the kind of place it is.

Speaker 4 There must be some sort of error.

Speaker 1 I bowled 10 games of bowling, ate three pounds of cheese curds, and had 40 beers. How is this only $22?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a great, like, if you can take a vacation there from New York City, you're going to love every site.

Speaker 4 You're just going to walk around saying the entire time, like, can you believe these prices? Great dive bars there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Also, the Packers are three and seven against the spread.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is the worst, I think, since like 2000.

Speaker 6 It's the Packers 1997.

Speaker 6 What?

Speaker 1 What was that? What?

Speaker 4 The Packers 1997?

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 6 Oh, my. Sorry, the set.

Speaker 1 I think Hank's controller just turned off. Yeah.
No, I was answering your question.

Speaker 6 Green Bay's 0-6 against the Spread this season as a four-point favorite or more. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 We said 3-7 against the Spread overall.

Speaker 6 I had the wrong stat. But,

Speaker 6 yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 1 The Packers, 1997.

Speaker 6 Wait, so the first 0-6 team against the Spread or worse in this spot through 11 weeks since 1997, the Packers. Okay.

Speaker 4 That's actually a useful stat. Yeah.
I didn't know that they were that bad as heavy favorites. I just knew they were 3-7 against.
That's the stats behind the stats. Yeah.
Apologies.

Speaker 1 No hidden stats. No,

Speaker 4 you went deeper on my stats. You know how to apologize.

Speaker 1 That was a funny moment.

Speaker 4 You cucked my stat, but I kind of enjoyed sitting in the corner and watching.

Speaker 1 I enjoyed the hell out of it. Anytime you talk about it, I feel good.
I want you more involved. What's that? What's that face?

Speaker 6 It's debatable. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 It's debatable. Let's debate.

Speaker 6 I could show many examples of me talking and you getting very upset.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you do say things that bother me, but other than that, I like you talking. That's your role, though.
But

Speaker 1 my role is to bother everybody. What would Gaz do? What would Gaz do? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Me and Gaz just exist. We're here to exist.

Speaker 1 No, but wait, Gaz is a good person. We're a couple of co-hosts.
We're co-hosts.

Speaker 6 Shout out to Gaz. He's now a co-host of Unnamed Show.
He did a great job today.

Speaker 1 Great job. Gaz.

Speaker 1 Okay. Just

Speaker 6 co-host, co-hosting. That's what we do.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 4 I don't want you to ever change a thing, ever. Okay.
Except maybe start playing golf left-handed.

Speaker 1 Seahawks, Titans. Titans are 13.5-point underdogs.
Over-under is 40.5. The Seattle Seahawks have won six straight games at the 1 p.m.
Eastern window.

Speaker 1 Or like non-you know, I mean, mid-I think Central Time and Eastern Standard Time. This means nothing.

Speaker 4 Well, no, it kind of goes along with the stat of how good they've become on the road.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The Seahawks, it's, you know, kind of puzzling that they haven't been as great at home, but they're dominant on the road, which is kind of of crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I this game is a bummer. I don't really

Speaker 1 I don't really want to

Speaker 1 really speak. The game's a bummer.

Speaker 4 The Seahawks are the best team in the NFL against the spread of the season. They are 8-2 against Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 And the Titans are the city, not the team. Think about this.
The Titans are playing a team at home. They're 13-half-point underdogs.

Speaker 1 The team they're playing had a quarterback throw four interceptions the week before. Obviously, there's more to it because the Seahawks are very good, but still, this is a bummer.

Speaker 1 I don't really want to.

Speaker 1 I'm opting out of all Titans talk. Seahawks are good.

Speaker 4 I am too. I do have one thing that I saw about Cam Ward.
Okay. So, if you're looking, if you're a Titans fan and you're thinking about Cam Ward and

Speaker 4 you're hoping that he's good, but you're not quite sure what's going on or what you're even looking at when you watch a Titans game.

Speaker 4 Cam Ward has played against the toughest defenses of any quarterback ever drafted first overall. Oh, wow.
So, based on like EPA and all that stuff, he's had the toughest go on it.

Speaker 4 So, even when he just drops the ball, you can be like, that's a really tough defense. No other rookie quarterback that was drafted first overall had to play against these kinds of defenses ever.

Speaker 4 He's going through a gauntlet. He's going through a gauntlet.
So,

Speaker 4 you can tell yourself that and be maybe a little bit less sad if something goes wrong this weekend. Also, this is maybe a revenge game.

Speaker 4 In the 1987 AFC playoffs,

Speaker 4 it was the Oilers against the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 Before the Seahawks switched and went to the NFC.

Speaker 4 So these two teams don't like each other. They hate each other.
A little revenge for the Birds this weekend, perhaps.

Speaker 1 They hate each other. Okay, big game.
Colts, three and a half point underdogs at the Kansas City Chiefs, over under 50.5. This is a massive, massive game.
The Chiefs are on the brink.

Speaker 1 If the Chiefs lose this game,

Speaker 1 what's that phase? Come on.

Speaker 1 I'm saying if they lose this game,

Speaker 1 if they lose this, they have to win six out of their their last seven.

Speaker 4 Realistically. What they're looking at, we're in phase talk or era talk.

Speaker 4 This might be the end of the Chiefs' second era. It could be the era's era.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think this might be the end of the era's era for the Chiefs because if this season goes the way it's looking like it's going to go, they have to make some major changes and add, like, I'd say the first era was probably the Tyreek Hill era for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 What's that look?

Speaker 6 This is their first era.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're all in the same era.

Speaker 4 I know, because I would say post-Tyreek, the team's been different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's still - I mean, that's.

Speaker 6 Tim Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Andy Reed.

Speaker 1 Chris Jones.

Speaker 6 Chris Jones.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 4 This could be the end of the era's era, which is their first era, and they'll have to reimagine. My point is they'll have to reimagine a lot of stuff this offseason if this one game goes poorly.

Speaker 1 Did you see our colleague Jerry Thornton getting ⁇ he was throwing out some good bait on online? Did you see it? No.

Speaker 1 After he posted a clip of the Broncos hitting the game-winning field goal, and he was like

Speaker 1 saying goodbye to the fraud dynasty that never existed or something. And then obviously a lot of Chiefs fans are like, it's a dynasty, which it

Speaker 1 is.

Speaker 1 You can't say it's not...

Speaker 1 Going to the Super Bowl, what, five times?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Three, four times. Wait, they won three out of the four.

Speaker 4 They lost to the... No, they lost to the Eagles and they lost to

Speaker 1 the Box. Yeah, so they went to five Super Bowls in what, six years? Yeah.
And they won three of them?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that counts. That's a dynasty.
That's a dynasty. Three and five years.
If you win three and five, we count that as a dynasty. Which they did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they won 19, 22, 23. Oh, yeah.
That's three and five. Yeah, three and five.

Speaker 1 I'll say one thing. Year math fucks me up all the time.

Speaker 6 Well, the NFL is real.

Speaker 1 It fucks me up all the time. I agree.

Speaker 4 I mean, it fucked up the Commanders when they put out their new merchandise and they crowned us like 1992 Super Bowl champions on them. I can't figure it out that the 1991 season.

Speaker 4 The calendar should start after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The start of the American calendar should be

Speaker 4 February 15th.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that sounds good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So do you agree it was a dynasty?

Speaker 1 It may be over, but you can't say it wasn't a dynasty.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The last great American dynasty, maybe.

Speaker 6 I guess. Technically.

Speaker 1 You don't agree? No, I do.

Speaker 6 I mean, I have to. It's the letter of the law.
They are a dynasty.

Speaker 4 But you just agree.

Speaker 4 No, you disagree with the law.

Speaker 1 You're doing it against your will.

Speaker 6 I have no choice but to accept it as a dynasty.

Speaker 4 You have to follow the law. Wherever it may take you.

Speaker 6 They did lose to Tom Brady during that dynasty.

Speaker 4 On the Patriots.

Speaker 4 And the Bucs. No, because I think they lost to Tom Brady on the Patriots before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Before the dynasty started.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the Bucks.

Speaker 1 First Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Really got to give credit to the Bucs for

Speaker 4 breaking up what could have been an all-time dynasty. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've got some stats behind

Speaker 4 the Chiefs

Speaker 4 in one score games.

Speaker 1 But that also was the end.

Speaker 1 The dynasty was over then. No,

Speaker 6 I've heard on the show a million times. They're going to win the Super Bowl this year.
So the dynasty will still continue.

Speaker 1 I think it wins the Byzantine Black. Hey, have you ever made a take that you were wrong about? Like saying that the Patriots stink after they lost the Raiders?

Speaker 6 No, I just said they might not be there this yet. Might.
Key word, might.

Speaker 6 And I also said on the show they're going to be the best team on this podcast, which I was laughed at, mocked on, ridiculed, basically.

Speaker 1 And then you took a bit of a paper. And then you walked back.
Then you walked back. You went back.

Speaker 1 Which one do you want credit for? You laughed at yourself.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you can walk back takes, but no one else can.

Speaker 6 I just said that might have been wrong.

Speaker 1 But now you want the credit for not.

Speaker 6 There you go. Okay.
All right. Yes, I make bad pace.

Speaker 1 Is that so hard?

Speaker 1 The Chiefs have to win this game.

Speaker 4 I do have stats about the Chiefs and how they operate in end-of-game situations when it's close. Last year, they were dominant in these close one-score games.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Just found a way to win every single week, no matter what. If you look at, there's a

Speaker 4 company called True Media that allows you to look at every play in certain specific situations.

Speaker 4 So if you make the criteria that if it's within eight points, so a one-score game, in the final five minutes of regulation, and they only count the snaps that aren't kneel-downs.

Speaker 4 So, real plays in one-score games in the final five minutes of regulation. The Chiefs, they've only had 11 snaps under those parameters,

Speaker 4 but their success rate is

Speaker 4 I believe

Speaker 4 Mahomes is two for 10 for 29 yards, one sack. They have a delay of game penalty, too.
So, they have a net total of 13 yards. That means they have an 18% success rate in those clutch situation plays.

Speaker 4 Yep. 18%

Speaker 4 would be the absolute lowest of any NFL team over the last eight years.

Speaker 4 The last eight years, they would be the worst in those situations this year.

Speaker 4 And then if you count that as among teams with at least 10 snaps in that situation, it's the worst mark of any team in the last decade per the athletic.

Speaker 4 So it's just, they're just not good at the end of football game. Yeah, and that's the thing.

Speaker 1 It's like, if you look at all of the Chiefs' numbers defensively, offensively,

Speaker 1 they are still a good football team. It's the end of game situations.
And we said it on Monday.

Speaker 1 The most shocking thing about that game against the Broncos, and I give all the credit to the Broncos for this, when the Chiefs used to have the ball up three with four minutes left, you wouldn't get the ball back.

Speaker 1 That was just the game. It was just over.
The Chiefs would just drain the clock, get the first down, and the game would be over. They can't do that right now.

Speaker 1 And the Colts, the Colts are getting a little healthier with their secondary, which is now going to be a strength because of obviously the trade for Sauce Gardner. But I think

Speaker 1 Chardavius Ward

Speaker 1 opened his practice window. The Colts, this is kind of a, like, if the Colts can end the Chiefs right here, the Colts are now very much for real.

Speaker 1 I mean, I already think they're for real, but this is a big spot. I'm excited for this game.

Speaker 4 I was thinking about what's going through the minds of the Colts players this week.

Speaker 4 And obviously the Chiefs are going to be dangerous because they're a desperate wounded animal that's been put in a corner.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they have to fight. But there's also a chance that they could just give up at some point because they're sick of fighting.
The Colts team is going to be super fired up going to this game.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Because this is their chance to shut up everybody that's like the Colts might be a fraud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they might be, which I do not think they're a fraud.

Speaker 4 I don't think so either. I think that, but I think that that's going to be an edge that they're going to use.
Yeah. I think I like the Colts this weekend.

Speaker 4 I think that big game game for Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Fun fact:

Speaker 1 the Indianapolis Colts are the only team that Patrick Mahomes has not beaten in the regular season.

Speaker 4 That is a fun fact. He's 0-2.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Also, fun fact.

Speaker 4 Ready for this one, Max?

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes, right now, the Chiefs are on pace to not make the playoffs. They're outside looking in.

Speaker 1 That would be something that Jalen Hurts has never done. Jalen Hurts has never missed the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Awesome stat. That's an awesome stat.
That's a great stat. Did Jalen Hurts? But also, Jalen Hurts would have to win his next 10 playoff games in two Super Bowls to tie Patrick Mahomes at the same age.

Speaker 1 Sounds like it's possible. Okay.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 4 Chance was what I was going for there.

Speaker 1 I couldn't quite get those words out of my fucking mouth.

Speaker 4 Max, would you take credit for the Eagles breaking the Chiefs' dynasty?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean. For destroying the genetic makeup of that team.

Speaker 1 If someone had to do it, I'm happy it's us.

Speaker 4 Hank, how do you feel about that? About the Eagles being your greatest ally?

Speaker 6 I love that. I love that Eagles team.
You love Philly. Biggest bet I ever won.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Big Dom. Yeah.
Thank you. Shout out, Big Dom.
Yeah, Dom Brady.

Speaker 6 He's a man. I mean, he wasn't on the field, but shout out to the Eagles.
Yeah, but you know,

Speaker 1 actually, he was.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 He was definitely on the field. You're wrong about that.

Speaker 4 He was on the field after the game.

Speaker 1 And during the game, too.

Speaker 4 On the sidelines, yeah, he stepped on the field because on the field. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A little nerd thing from Sports Sports Info Solutions.

Speaker 1 The Colts, so the Chiefs play a lot of two high-zone looks, cover four,

Speaker 1 more so than cover two.

Speaker 1 And the Colts are top 10, and the Chiefs are bottom five in success rate in each of these splits. So Jonathan Taylor may be a good game.
Tyler Warren,

Speaker 1 more Tyler Warren and Michael Pittman. They could be the guys that are

Speaker 1 getting a ton of targets here.

Speaker 4 I think this might be a Jonathan Taylor special.

Speaker 4 It might be a special.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go to the next game. The Jets at the Ravens.

Speaker 1 Ravens are minus 13 and a half.

Speaker 4 Direx Ryan Bull.

Speaker 1 Over-under is 44.5.

Speaker 4 Tyrod Taylor will start.

Speaker 4 I'm going to ask Diana.

Speaker 1 What do we think, memes?

Speaker 4 Where are we at?

Speaker 1 I think the Jets are due to get blown out.

Speaker 4 And if Lamar plays, I think everyone should just go enjoy their Sunday.

Speaker 1 Don't watch this game. Okay.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 No confidence in Tarad.

Speaker 1 I have some confidence.

Speaker 1 The Panthers game when they played, it just, his arm is done.

Speaker 4 But it's more not done than Justin Field. I guess Justin Fields.
Justin Field just doesn't throw the ball.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have an arm.

Speaker 1 No, Justin Field is broken.

Speaker 4 But I do feel like Tarad gives you an offense. I guess what I'm getting, I'm not going to say that the Jets are going to win the game, but I kind of like them to cover.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Tarad gives you a chance.

Speaker 4 And Lamar didn't practice yesterday because of an ankle.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Now, so I saw a cut-up of all of Lamar Jackson's interceptions that he's had over the last two seasons.

Speaker 4 The Baltimore Ravens wide receivers lead the league in interceptions.

Speaker 4 It's crazy.

Speaker 4 Not Tarad, Lamar has been so good at taking care of the football when it comes to passing. Fumbling is a different story, but when it comes to passing, he just does not throw interceptions.

Speaker 4 Any interception that happens, it's because it bounced off his receiver's hands and then hit the tight end of the face mask and then caromed into a cornerback's arms.

Speaker 4 It's pretty crazy to watch.

Speaker 1 Thoughts, memes? Jets don't have an interception this year.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Only team without an interception.
I feel like you were holding that stat back from us. Yeah.
I feel like you were hiding that from us. No, I thought everybody knew that stat.

Speaker 4 Were you ashamed of that one?

Speaker 1 A little bit. A little bit.
Yeah. Because they've had the ball thrown directly to them and they

Speaker 1 picked it up. A lot of times.
A lot of times. The Ravens defense, we've talked about it on the show, under 20 points allowed in the last five games.
They have turned the corner.

Speaker 1 This is when the Ravens have to start.

Speaker 1 They struggled a little bit with the Browns. That was a tough game.
Divisional game on the road. This is a game they need to just dominate, right?

Speaker 1 What about...

Speaker 4 Have you thought about Aaron Glenn off a bye?

Speaker 1 I have not thought about Aaron Glenn. He's not, though.
They're not. They won off a bye, though.
They won't the Patriots.

Speaker 4 That's right.

Speaker 1 I forgot about this game against the Patriots.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I forgot. That was a long long time ago.

Speaker 1 No, they won.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, but they played.

Speaker 1 They're not off a bye. They're not off a bye.

Speaker 4 I had forgotten about the Patriots game on Thursday because that was not on a Sunday, but it feels like 10 years ago. So, no, the answer, Mike, I have not thought about Erin Glenn off the bye either.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Afternoon games. Browns at Raiders.

Speaker 1 Raiders are three and a half point favorites. The over-under is 36.5.

Speaker 1 Do you guys know the last time time the Browns have won on Pacific Standard Time? Ooh.

Speaker 6 Baker Mayfield

Speaker 1 2018. No, it was actually Brandon Whedon beating Carson Palmer in 2012.

Speaker 4 Who could forget?

Speaker 1 That's pretty crazy. Yeah.
So it has been almost, it has been 13, 14 years bad at year math since the Browns last won a game on Pacific Standard Time.

Speaker 4 That's very tough.

Speaker 1 It It could happen, though. It could happen.

Speaker 4 It feels like this might be the weekend that

Speaker 4 it maybe could happen.

Speaker 1 Well, Shador, remember, the Raiders passed on Shador seven times. Yeah.
Seven times in the draft, the Raiders passed on Shador, and they said they were going to draft him.

Speaker 4 And the Browns passed on him how many times? A lot. Six? Shitload.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Everyone passed on him.

Speaker 4 That's probably why he doesn't seem to get along with the Browns. You guys passed on me, too.
Listen,

Speaker 1 we need Shadussi to win this game so we can get some takes off.

Speaker 4 I 100% agree. I think that him, he has the highest upside in terms of driving people insane.

Speaker 4 One way or the other, given if he plays well or he plays poorly, some people are going to be mad. The Shador apologist will be out in full force if they somehow lose this game and Shador plays well.

Speaker 4 That might actually be, if we're looking for the perfect take, like

Speaker 4 Petri dish, I think the ingredients you would add to it would be Shador going for like 300 yards. A lot of good quarterbacks haven't thrown for that yet.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Having him go off and then have the Browns' defense somehow actually not hold up their end of the bargain. And then we'll get people being like, His defense has to play harder for him.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 That would be very funny if that were to somehow occur. But yeah,

Speaker 4 that's not going to happen because their defense is awesome. And Miles Garrett is dominating, and he has an opportunity to break the all-time sack record this season.

Speaker 1 Yes, he has been phenomenal. I did say the stat earlier in the week that the Browns, since coming back as a franchise,

Speaker 1 quarterbacks are making their first career starter 0-17.

Speaker 1 It's really bad. Yep.

Speaker 4 42nd Browns starting quarterback since 1999.

Speaker 1 But some positive news, Shador Sanders, his jewelry didn't get stolen. So his house was robbed during the game, which do you think the robbers waited until he got in the game?

Speaker 1 Because that's kind of weird that he got robbed on the day that he played in the first regular season game.

Speaker 4 I think it's more...

Speaker 4 That could be the case. They've got like a a TV and they're like, okay, we've got eyes on him.
We can confirm that he is in the game.

Speaker 1 He's not near his phone.

Speaker 4 He's not at his house right now.

Speaker 4 It might also just be that the only reports that we've heard about are from starters. Like maybe backup guy, if they're robbing starters, they're probably robbing some backups, right?

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 they just call the cops and then nobody picks it up in the news because they're like, oh, this guy's QB3. Yeah.
Not worthy of a click. But

Speaker 4 he had a great quote from it. He said, I didn't get robbed.
My house did. Ah, that's a good way to look at it.
I like that. Yeah, so he's resilient.

Speaker 1 I like that a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm going to probably take the Browns.

Speaker 4 I don't want to watch this game. I am also going to ⁇ I want to watch for the Shador takes.

Speaker 4 I want to be prepared going into Sunday Night Show, armed with every single snap that Shador had, all the throws that his receivers didn't make a good enough play on,

Speaker 4 how his offensive line didn't block hard enough for him. I want to know everything that's going on.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. All All right, Jaguars, Cardinals, Cardinals plus three, Overunders 47.5.

Speaker 4 I had a quick question for you about the Raiders. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Do you think at some point Pete has to get Geno off the field?

Speaker 4 I don't think he was the problem last week. He was one of the problems.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Does it matter?

Speaker 4 Not really,

Speaker 4 but I think that Pete at some point has to...

Speaker 4 He's got to do something if he wants to keep the guys that are in the locker room kind of like on board.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think it matters. Okay.
Yeah, no, I'm just saying, like, Gino can't, I don't think Geno can beat the quarterback next year. I'm saying this season, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the Raiders are going to do. Yeah.
You know, it's just a cluster fuck. Yeah.
So he could or he could not. I think they'll still be bad.

Speaker 4 They'll definitely still be bad. I don't think it would make a difference, but I don't know.
I just hear.

Speaker 4 It's mostly former players that talk about it when they say that there's a guy that's obviously struggling. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Then at some point, all the other guys that have contracts that they have to earn, they start to turn their back on the coach when they don't make a move to at least change something.

Speaker 1 You're right, it does not matter because I feel like there's going to be a lot of Raiders that aren't Raiders after this season.

Speaker 4 Yes, I would agree with that. And who's his backup? Is it Kenny Pickett?

Speaker 1 Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 4 So, what's the, yeah, what's Kenny Pickett's war over Geno at this point? I don't know. I don't know that it's that.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 The Cardinals and the Jaguars. The Jaguars are three-point favorites.
The Overenders 47.5.

Speaker 1 Jonathan Gannis said on being on the hot seat, he said, not controllable for me. I didn't hire myself.
I'm not going to fire myself. He could fire himself.
You could.

Speaker 1 You could absolutely fire himself.

Speaker 4 Fire yourself, rehire yourself. Yeah.
Devote yourself.

Speaker 1 This is a sneaky big game in terms of the Jaguars are an up and down team where they're up, they're down, they're up, they win, they lose, they win, they lose.

Speaker 1 This is a team they should beat off a big win. They're very much in the wild card race.
They're in the playoffs right now. I want to see the Jaguars put it together.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, last week was pretty impressive what they did after giving up that big to Houston to come back and just kick the shit out of the Chargers. Yeah, that was pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 I don't think anyone saw that coming.

Speaker 4 I like Liam Cohen's advice that he's given to Trevor Lawrence now.

Speaker 4 We're seeing a different Trevor out there now. Liam Cohen told him it's time to cut it loose.
Let's go. So we've been cutting it loose for the last week.

Speaker 4 I don't know if he's cut loose this Sunday as well. I imagine you have to keep him cut loose if it worked last week, right? Yes.
But I like that advice.

Speaker 4 Trevor does sometimes tend to play like a little wound up,

Speaker 1 a little tight.

Speaker 4 Just a tiny bit. So just cut it loose.
Like, he looks like he should be the loosest guy in the NFL. Yeah.
He looks like Spicoli out there.

Speaker 1 Cut it loose, Trevor.

Speaker 4 He's got to just keep it cut loose. And yeah, I like the Jaguars' chances too because I don't know what to expect from the Cardinals.
No one does. I don't.
I really have no idea.

Speaker 4 Jacobi's going to throw it all around the yard. He could, yeah, go off for another like 450 yards.
He could throw for like 117 yards and two picks.

Speaker 4 I don't know what to expect from the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 1 So we talked about the Browns, Raiders. We talked about the Jaguars, Cardinals.
The other game in this slate besides the Eagles is the Falcons and Saints. This game,

Speaker 1 the Falcons are

Speaker 1 just the biggest bummer team out there.

Speaker 1 The Saints are one and a half point favorites. The over-under is 39.5.

Speaker 1 I'm going to probably bet the Saints because I something about Tyler Shuck, and I just don't know, like, Drake London's going to be out probably, and Kirk Cousins starting. Michael Pennix hurt again.

Speaker 1 Everything is just bad. Congratulations, Hank, by the way.
The Saints are going to be playing a game in Paris. I know you're pumped about that.
Awesome. It's huge.
Are you going to go?

Speaker 1 Gonna work. Someone said you should have to go to every single international game.

Speaker 4 That would be

Speaker 4 such a

Speaker 1 punishment. That would be huge.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. Don't do it.

Speaker 6 Don't, don't, please. Please.

Speaker 1 And I realize now it's probably your burner account. Do you have anything about this game? I don't.

Speaker 4 Drew Brees is going to be announcing it. Okay.
So he's, it seems a little biased. He'll probably have.
And it's not right that Drew Brees is announcing.

Speaker 4 Now that I think about it, he can announce all the other Saints games. I really won't care.
This week,

Speaker 4 the Falcons and the Saints. Yeah, he's going to be doing the pregame meetings.
Yeah, I don't. That's not fair.
Well, no, that's not what I'm talking, but that's a good point.

Speaker 4 That's an excellent point.

Speaker 4 And we should have that conversation. I was just saying this is mean for Falcons fans.
Yeah. Like, you hate Drew Brees.

Speaker 4 The Falcons and the Saints actually, like, the fan base is, it's on site with either one. This is this is kind of spitting in their face if you're if you're in charge of these

Speaker 4 play-by-play and analyst placements. He should not be allowed in this game in a rivalry game.

Speaker 4 I think it's

Speaker 4 a bad thing to do to the Falcons fan base that's been through enough. And yeah, we got

Speaker 4 Drew Brees and Kirk Cousins, and Penix is out for the entire season, partially torn ACL. It's just...

Speaker 4 It's a bummer weekend for Falcons fans, and I think that Raheem Morris is probably pretty heavy on the hot seat right now.

Speaker 1 You know, it would be very fun with the Falcons could do to have some fun. They signed Kyle Trask as a uh to their practice squad.

Speaker 1 Kyle Pitts had 720 receiving yards and nine touchdowns when Kyle Trask was throwing to him at the University of Florida. Let's just do that.

Speaker 8 Let's just do that.

Speaker 1 Just spam Kyle Pitts, Kyle to Kyle.

Speaker 4 Be fun.

Speaker 1 Okay, this is so I mentioned that game first because

Speaker 1 the Eagles and the Cowboys, the Cowboys are three-point underdogs, Over is 47.5.

Speaker 1 The Eagles now, unfortunately, we are at a point where they have to put on an entertaining game for us in the afternoon because the other games are not very good. And I do not feel confident in that.

Speaker 1 And Max is like, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 How about you give a fuck about our entertainment? Okay? How about you give a fuck about the fans?

Speaker 4 Sorry, don't care. You don't care.
Asshole.

Speaker 1 You don't care how the Eagles look? I don't care about your entertainment. Asshole.
You don't care about winning football. Asshole.

Speaker 5 Asshole. Yeah, you got that completely.

Speaker 1 Asshole.

Speaker 1 Just do it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Have a good game. I do think this might be an entertaining game.

Speaker 1 I think it will be, too.

Speaker 1 I think this is an over game.

Speaker 1 I kind of agree with you.

Speaker 4 Actually, no, I don't. I disagree with you.
But I think it's going to be more entertaining than what we've seen from the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Are you nervous about this game, Max? Of course. I mean, I think the Cowboys are live in this game.

Speaker 1 For sure. And I mean,

Speaker 1 it's hard to sweep the Cowboys every, I mean, we don't do it. Like, we don't do it.
It's tough.

Speaker 4 And I think that the Cowboys defense.

Speaker 1 They done it last year.

Speaker 4 The Cowboys' defense was so bad to start the season. They were just Quinn Williams changed the team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He changed it.

Speaker 4 Also, Overshone coming back. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's a big deal. So he's an awesome player.

Speaker 1 Cowboys are a good team.

Speaker 4 I think that their defense might end up being

Speaker 4 closish to average

Speaker 4 at the end of the season if everybody stays healthy.

Speaker 4 I don't think that they're a bottom three, bottom five team anymore. Their offense is awesome.

Speaker 1 And Dak at home against the NFC East, he's been very, very good. He's 21-2 straight up at home against the NFC East, and he's 17-6 against the spread.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 He defends Dallas against the NFC East.

Speaker 4 How do we feel about the Kelly Greens on the road, Max?

Speaker 1 Is that what you're doing? I like how

Speaker 1 it's the all situation.

Speaker 4 Because I think this is the first time since they brought the Kelly Greens back that they're doing it outside of Philly.

Speaker 1 No problem with it. Zero problem.

Speaker 1 It could fix the offense. The Kelly Greens could fix the offense.

Speaker 1 There's no reason to think that it won't.

Speaker 4 Yeah, right now what we're doing is a no bad ideas meeting. Yeah.
All right, no bad ideas. That's a good idea.

Speaker 1 Kelly Greens, always a good idea. Always a good idea.

Speaker 4 What can fix the offense? Yeah, what about the Kelly Greens? Okay, all right, yeah, yeah. No bad ideas.

Speaker 1 No, no, you're saying no bad ideas. Like

Speaker 1 you're inferring that it's a bad idea. It's a great idea.

Speaker 4 I'm not inferring anything. I'm saying it's a good idea.

Speaker 1 If someone says, no, I was just saying we're having a no bad idea.

Speaker 4 No meeting. I just said it was not a bad idea.

Speaker 1 No, but you should be like, great idea. Great idea.
Like, you bring that to the meeting, and it's like Kelly Greens fix the offense. You're like, wow, great idea.

Speaker 4 We're not having a great idea.

Speaker 1 No, we're having an Only Great Ideas meeting. Okay.
That's a great idea. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 4 So say only great ideas. Okay, only great ideas meeting starting right now.
Pitch me what you've got, Max.

Speaker 4 Kelly Greens. That's a great idea.

Speaker 1 And then Tanner McKee. Probably every other person.
Great idea.

Speaker 4 Cut AJ Brown.

Speaker 1 This is the only great ideas meeting. Bad idea.
Bad idea. No, no, no, that's a different meeting.

Speaker 1 We didn't. No, you said you wanted an only good ideas meeting.
But then you have to come with good ideas. Tanner McKee.

Speaker 1 You are.

Speaker 4 Max doesn't understand these things.

Speaker 1 Disrespectful. Have you thought about Tanner McKee at all this year? No.
Pug has. Not even for a second.
Pug has.

Speaker 6 I know.

Speaker 1 Pug loves it.

Speaker 1 Pug has definitely thought of that.

Speaker 1 I think if someone offered a first-round pick for Tanner McKee, Pug would say no.

Speaker 5 That's not not Howard.

Speaker 1 I actually know that he would say no.

Speaker 4 What would you take for Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 1 Me? Yeah. That's my quarterback.
Yeah, but

Speaker 4 everyone has a price.

Speaker 1 What would you take for Jaden Daniels?

Speaker 4 I think my price was like six first-round picks and Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 I'll go seven.

Speaker 4 Okay, but no, Josh Allen got it.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he's got Tanner McKee. Yeah, Tanner McKee.
He'll need Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 Every man has got a price.

Speaker 1 George Pickens, by the way, his pace this year, 17-game pace, 99 receptions, 1,500 yards, 12 touchdowns, He's been awesome. I saw the report that the Steelers were like,

Speaker 1 we're happy he's had success, but we were so sick of his shit, we don't care. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah, okay.
So

Speaker 4 they're painting this as a win? Yeah, I guess so. So right now they're getting like half the production from DK, but they're not sick of his shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So that's a win.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for this game. This game better deliver.
And I think the Cowboys are live. I think plus three is a...

Speaker 4 is a bet I might make. I think they are, but also congratulations to the Eagles for being the first repeat champion of of the NFC East since 2004, I believe.

Speaker 1 They can't clinch this week. Yeah, but no.
No, he's just congratulating.

Speaker 4 Yeah, congratulations. They can clinch next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys have won.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's honestly one of the most impressive streaks in sports that that division has had. It is.
Pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy.
You know, all good things have to come to an end.

Speaker 4 And the Dynasty Killers, the Eagles are doing it. Yeah.
Good job, Max. Good job, Max.

Speaker 1 Okay, last game on Sunday. Good game.
Bucks at Rams.

Speaker 4 Rams are minus six and a half.

Speaker 1 Over-under is 49.5. What are we thinking, boys?

Speaker 4 The Bucs have the flu.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like the butt flu?

Speaker 1 No, they have the flu. They've been sick.
Zach, have you read this?

Speaker 5 I'm seeing some stuff on Twitter not looking good. Team's sick.
Team's sick. And this needs to be like a slump bus game, and now we're just, if we're down bad, then what are we doing? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know. How do you get rid of the flu? Not good.

Speaker 5 We got blast meds. We need to get some sanctioned meds and start blasting them.

Speaker 4 Or unsanctioned.

Speaker 4 Preferably sanctioned. You live in Florida.
You got some good unsanctioned meds.

Speaker 5 They got some doctors probably, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, probably leads the league in unsanctioned meds in the state.

Speaker 4 I kind of like the Rams in this game.

Speaker 4 I like the Rams against just about any team, but when you toss in the extra flu, and then actually, I think a big difference in this game, Baker, I don't know what he's going to do for motivation because Sean McVay believed in him.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I guess Sean McVay didn't re-sign him.

Speaker 1 He does. His wife is pregnant with their second child.
Okay. Maybe that's motivation to play for his second child.

Speaker 1 He He said he's going to have a little shithead on his hands because it's a boy they're expecting. Congratulations to them.
Congrats.

Speaker 4 But you know what I'm saying? Like, Sean McVay, there's absolutely no bulletin board that Baker Mayfield has about the guy that helped him get out of where he was. Correct.

Speaker 1 The Bucs are in their just annual slump. So in 2023, they went one and five between weeks six and 11.
2024, they went one and four. This year, they're two and three.

Speaker 1 They've had losing streaks of three-plus games in each of the last two seasons. So this has happened.
They just got to get out of it.

Speaker 1 And really, when they got to get out of it, they got to start playing the Saints again. Yeah.
Yeah. I think they have the Saints twice.

Speaker 4 That'll be good for them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's always nice. We get back to some divisional games, and our division historically is not the best.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I kind of like the Rams as well. The flu thing, 15 guys on the Bucs were apparently sick on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Now, Wednesday is pretty far from Sunday, so maybe they're going to be fine before that, but you never want to hear the flu.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if you all have the flu on Wednesday,

Speaker 4 is it possible they were all faking it?

Speaker 4 Wednesday is a great day to fake being sick.

Speaker 5 Trying to get out of it?

Speaker 4 Like, if I was back in school, Wednesday would be a prime candidate for, yeah, I don't feel good.

Speaker 4 I can't go in today, because then you just, you essentially just give yourself a two-day school week at that point.

Speaker 1 By the way, they did already play the Saints once, so they have this.

Speaker 1 So this might be the bet on the Rams and then buy all the Buck stock game because the Bucks finish with Cardinals at home, Saints at home, Falcons at home, at Panthers, Panthers, at Dolphins, Panthers at home.

Speaker 1 That's the buy the Bucs stock, right?

Speaker 4 I don't really think they're. And they're getting healthier.
The Bucs probably don't have a tremendous sense of urgency right now either.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 they're kind of slotted in, hey, if we lose this game, it's going to be.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess seeding will matter, obviously, because of, you know, there's some very talented teams in the NFC. Yeah.
But

Speaker 1 realistically, I would say the Bucs are going to be okay to get in the playoffs. They just,

Speaker 1 it would be nice for them to win this game, though. Yeah, not on flu week.
Not on flu week. Not on flu week.

Speaker 1 I also think Todd Bowles blitzing Matthew Stafford's probably not going to work because Matthew Stafford's just good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, really good. I mean, Todd Bowles has had some games where he just takes the foot off the blitz button, where he's just like, let's see what the defense does if I don't send an extra guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But this does feel like a game where he would be more inclined to do that.

Speaker 1 Any other things from this game? Are you going to, do we have a hungry dog? Have you decided?

Speaker 4 We do this every week.

Speaker 1 I know, and every week I expect you to have something at least.

Speaker 4 That means that the Bears game is going to be in a game. No, that's true.

Speaker 6 Every weekend, it's like, I don't choose a Hungry Dog on the other side.

Speaker 1 Okay, well.

Speaker 6 Do you know what you're like every bet? I guess you do it. You're very defensive right now.
No, I just, every week it's like, what's the Hungry Dog?

Speaker 1 And I'm always like, well, I just want to give to people. I mean, this is our picks and preview, but just give us, what are you thinking? Sorry, let me rephrase it.

Speaker 1 Hank, what teams are you looking at for the Hungarian?

Speaker 6 That's 100% in the Hungry Dog.

Speaker 1 So then give it to us. Vikings.
Okay.

Speaker 6 I like the Browns.

Speaker 6 i like the cowboys the i like the bucks i like the uh steelers okay three some combination of two of those will be in it in it and then you're gonna i also like the colts oh you like a lot of dogs i know that's where it's like i don't and then i get in my head if i what about round robin no no why it's the hungry dog it's three on underdogs it's it's usually it's a fair question though because After every Thursday show, I'll go on to the Barstow betting group on DraftKings, and I'll see Hank just put in a bunch of his bets during the show.

Speaker 4 So you do bet it sometimes during the show, but that's not the final one.

Speaker 6 That's not the one I like.

Speaker 1 It's not the final one.

Speaker 1 It's the Henry though.

Speaker 6 I put one in,

Speaker 6 I think I put this in on Sunday. Browns, Bucks, Vikings.

Speaker 1 Oh, so that's like

Speaker 1 the final one. No, yeah, but it's nice to give the people at least.

Speaker 6 I just like to check the odds, and then it's like, well, it's already, you know, it's grouped together. Might as well bet it.

Speaker 1 It might as well just do it. But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do Jerry's fantasy fantasy minute, and then we will do our touchdown parlay, and we'll do our best bets.

Speaker 4 By the way, in the couple hours since we talked about Jerry and his antics in the group chat, he's texted the group chat twice. Okay.
Yeah, he is still. What are the updates?

Speaker 4 He's just demanding to know if anybody's going to take any of his dozens of trades that he's sent out. He said, I am taking trades down.
Oh, he's doing the artificial takeaway. Oh.

Speaker 4 He goes, I am taking trades down, but guys, the flow of players needs to flow. You can just hit decline.
Good luck in the playoffs, everybody.

Speaker 4 To which CJ McCollum replied, I'll evaluate today. Been off the fantasy football grid because he's playing for the Washington Wizards.

Speaker 4 And then Jerry says, I believe there are nine hours left until trade deadline.

Speaker 1 Dot, dot, dot.

Speaker 4 No biggie.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 He's very desperate. Jerry's very desperate.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Jerry, here he is. This thumbnail looks like

Speaker 1 an elephant. It's incredible.
Yeah. I was incredible.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, like a robot penis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's in his basement or something.

Speaker 10 Hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 So what the music means?

Speaker 1 That's what the music means. I'm doing,

Speaker 9 I got one minute.

Speaker 4 I gotta fix these ducts.

Speaker 10 We got relatives coming over for the holidays, and I gotta fix the dryaduct, and I'm trying to save $200. What I'm gonna end up spending,

Speaker 10 $600 to repair what I did.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 10 We're gonna uh we're gonna start deep cleaning. Way to be max.
You gotta deep clean.

Speaker 10 You gotta get in the crevasses we're gonna um we're gonna sit hank talking smack about big dom careful dude you're gonna end up with the fishes um

Speaker 10 we're gonna uh start puna ford and that ramsd sorry shane ever since he left the charges he's uh kicking butt um we're gonna start max losing 30 pounds before the holidays do it dude come on we can do this uh uh in reality we're gonna start brissette we're gonna start demercado and uh we're gonna start pierce all he's back i did it one minute call call 1-800 get somebody to fix your house because you're gonna end up breaking in

Speaker 1 but listen you're gonna do it Max

Speaker 1 we're we're starting after the holidays

Speaker 1 we're we're we're and then you're gonna blame me

Speaker 1 we're just gonna go on you're gonna blame me for the free lunch on

Speaker 1 oh the free lunch i am I am so anti-free lunch, it's insane. I'm starting a movement.
I might get a petition going. Come on.
You're going to ruin it for everyone else? No.

Speaker 1 It depends if enough people want it what if we just get max what if we do like a salad bar that'd be great free lunch salad bar yeah like you want that that's not what he wants though he doesn't want salad bar like the ruby tuesday salad the ruby tuesday salad bar so good but also pretty fat but it's still salad but it's still salad it is still salad okay let's do we gotta we gotta win our uh touchdown part late did we get skunked last week we might have gotten skunked i think we got skunked so draft kings football season just got even better barstills bringing you the game of the week every single week through through the end of the regular season.

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Speaker 1 Okay, what are we thinking, boys?

Speaker 4 What are we thinking? I'm thinking, uh, what are we thinking? I'm thinking Q.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 Quinchon Junkins.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I like going up against that Raiders defense. I thought about doing Shador.
at six to one because I feel like quarterbacks in that situation, he's going to really want to score.

Speaker 4 If he gets around the goal line, first resembler, he'll probably take off. I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 4 I don't want to do that to the AWLs. So I'll say Quinchon Judkins.

Speaker 1 All right, put on Quinchon Judkins on there, Max. Why are we...

Speaker 4 Oh, you're doing the wrist.

Speaker 1 Doing the shadow.

Speaker 4 Doing the watch, yeah. Hank.
Legendary.

Speaker 1 Thoughts?

Speaker 6 Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 6 The one I will be betting, if AWS want to just take it anytime, TD, is the Browns defense.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I like that, too. That's a separate one.

Speaker 1 What do you guys want to do in the night game? I was thinking,

Speaker 1 I want to do Sean Tucker, but

Speaker 1 Bucky Irving might be back. Should we just go Devontae Adams because he always scores?

Speaker 4 Devontae Adams does always score.

Speaker 1 And that's our last piece.

Speaker 4 Do you want to put Devontae Adams in there? He always scores.

Speaker 1 Let's just put Devontae Adams in there. It's a low odds one.
No, it's 10 to 1. Or no.
6-1. 6-1.
All right. want to go? Do you want to put in Sean Tucker? All right, put in Sean Tucker.

Speaker 1 Let's see what Sean Tucker is.

Speaker 1 Sean Tucker makes it 10 to 1. Should we do it?

Speaker 4 I say go with your gut.

Speaker 1 And my gut was Sean Tucker. Go with your gut.
All right. So, yeah.
Quinn Sean, Jalen Hurts, Sean Tucker, 10 to 1.

Speaker 1 Bet with us. Strong.
Okay, best bets time.

Speaker 1 We have the standings. I think I went 0-2 last week.
I think it's tight at the top.

Speaker 4 We have

Speaker 1 I'm at 13. Max at 13, Hanks at 12, memes at 10, Zach at 10, PFT nine and a half.
Got a push.

Speaker 5 Yep, got a push and a win.

Speaker 1 Okay, who's up first?

Speaker 1 I believe Bitcat. Oh, shit.
I'm on the clock. I didn't want to be on the clock this early.

Speaker 1 I am going to, with my first overall selection, I am going to take the Giants Lions over 50. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Can't believe you didn't take this.

Speaker 6 Nuke. Nuke City, Volume 2, Kansas City Chiefs, minus 3.5.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I got burned last week. I can't do it again.
I'm going to bet them, but I can't nuke. I'm going to take the Seattle Seahawks minus 13 and a half.
Big spread. Some spread.

Speaker 1 I am going to take.

Speaker 1 Ugh.

Speaker 7 I will take

Speaker 1 Bengals Patriots over 51.

Speaker 1 Good call. Good call.
Good call.

Speaker 6 It's 50 and a half right now.

Speaker 6 Oh, cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, mine's 50 and a half as well. Sorry.
I'll take 50 and a half. Mine is 50 and a half.

Speaker 5 I would like to take the Philadelphia Eagles minus three.

Speaker 4 Go Birds.

Speaker 4 Big Gay Max.

Speaker 1 Another big game. Big game.
Big game. What'd you say?

Speaker 4 I said big game for big gay max.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take

Speaker 1 Nuke City. Oh.
Nuke World.

Speaker 4 Nuke Universe. Yep.
Love this. The Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 Plus three and a half. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 That's a big half point right there, Hank.

Speaker 4 That's a huge half point. Three and a half.

Speaker 4 Give me the hook. Nuke City.
Give me the Colts and nuke it. And then

Speaker 4 for my other pick, I might do a double nuke. I might do Fat Man and Little Boy.
Welcome to tomorrow's part of my take. I'm doing the under,

Speaker 4 the under in the Jets Ravens. 44.5.
I don't see how that game gets to like 35.

Speaker 1 Nice pick. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What memes?

Speaker 1 We'll get to it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I'm going to take the over in the Vikings Packers game at 41.5.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 1 I'm going to shuck some corn. Saints minus two.

Speaker 1 Shit. I wanted that.
It's two and a half, by the way. Minus two and a half.
half fine like still of it

Speaker 1 i'm going over in the jets ravens over 44 and a half i think this flies whoa

Speaker 1 flies the jets ravens

Speaker 1 you think tarad revenge game yeah this will be like 44 to 21 flies who wins ravens

Speaker 6 okay all right Give me over 35 and a half. That's a criminal number for an NFL football game in the Browns Raiders.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Cowboys plus three.

Speaker 1 What? Bad guy. Why?

Speaker 1 Bad guy. I think the Cowboys are going to cover the spread.
The Eagles can win the game. Well, yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, we will see.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 1 That's why we gamble. We'll see.

Speaker 1 We'll see. Okay, let's get to our interview with Pete Prisco and Kyle Long, and then we'll finish up with Firefest.

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Speaker 4 Terms apply. And now here is Kyle Long and Pete Prisco.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on two very, very special guests. They are very good friends.
We thought this would be fun to do because you can see them all the time on CBS Sports HQ.

Speaker 1 It is Pete Prisco and Kyle Long. They are the new like jock and nerd

Speaker 1 that we used to have.

Speaker 1 Don't you what, Pete, you think you're the jock?

Speaker 9 It's jock and jock.

Speaker 1 Oh, jock and jock. Okay.
Nerd, what are you talking about? Nerd. He was a guard in high school, bro.

Speaker 1 Come on. Two bald guys.
All right, so we want to have you guys on talk some ball. I want to start with this.
You guys work together every day. You know each other's takes.

Speaker 1 So let's start with what is the thing that you guys disagree with the most right now in the NFL?

Speaker 7 Pete, go ahead.

Speaker 7 Probably

Speaker 9 the Bears.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's get into it.

Speaker 9 Well, because, you know, Kyle, like you, is is a homer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And I'm a little more realistic because I look at the schedule and see, you know, that they really have what they played one team with a winning record and lost to them.

Speaker 7 And so

Speaker 9 I'm a little apprehensive. And Kyle goes in with pom-poms waving every time you talk about the Bears.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 this is a fair thing to bring up, Kyle. I want to hear your thoughts.

Speaker 1 I've approached this season. Going into the season, I was like, I want to see Caleb get better, and I want to see Ben Johnson be the real deal.
Both things have happened.

Speaker 1 I understand we haven't beaten anyone good, but we're winning games that we never used to win. You know this.
Like, from a culture standpoint, you still talk to guys in the building.

Speaker 1 Like, it's different. It's different.
Whether they end up in the playoffs or not, this has been a success of a season.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's 100%

Speaker 7 a huge difference. It's polar opposites from the last time we saw this team.
I mean, just... Evidence in the fact that they win close games.

Speaker 7 That's like, it's almost like the, you know, from Space Jam where they took the powers from the Monster or the Monsters took their powers. It's like the inverse of that.

Speaker 7 Like, they found a way to be confident in big moments. And I think the first thing I looked for was the sack numbers getting cut down.
And he's nearly, you know, more than cut it in half.

Speaker 7 Caleb Williams has. So to see that him and Ben Johnson are growing and continuing to progress.
And you can hear Ben Johnson this week when talking about Aaron Rodgers' comparisons to Caleb Williams.

Speaker 7 He's like, pump the brakes. This kid's still got to get the ball out quicker.

Speaker 7 Stuff like that. So there's still teaching going on.
It's not like that ended in training camp. And I think that's really big for the Bears fans.
And I think the other thing is this.

Speaker 7 I expected them to win like eight games. We're one game.
We're one a game away from expectation.

Speaker 7 So regardless, if you got to play the Philadelphia Eagles for the next seven weeks, like they have reached an altitude at which they can like do their glide path and land this plane safely and parlay it into next year.

Speaker 7 This is just extra football, free football. If you're a Bears fan for the first time in a long time, since like 2018, you're watching and say, man, that was fun.

Speaker 7 I'm just like, I'm really happy that we're having fun here. Yes.

Speaker 1 And meaningful football. Meaningful football in December has not happened in a long time, and this is a good test for this team.

Speaker 1 And the approach I'm taking, because Pete, I know you're a big schedule guy.

Speaker 1 If the Bears, the schedule going down the stretch with these seven games, if the Bears fall on their face, then they were never going to be a playoff team because we're playing playoff teams now.

Speaker 1 Like, this is what you're going to do when you get to the playoffs. I think they're going to be able to

Speaker 1 make their way into the playoffs. I know the haters like you have derangement syndrome about Caleb Williams.

Speaker 9 Not a hater.

Speaker 1 Not a hater.

Speaker 9 I think he's improved greatly. I'm not a hater.
Okay. I think they're moving in the right direction.
I just don't think this is their year. I think they're a year away.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 9 I love what Ben Johnson has done with him. I think he's gotten a lot better.
Everything has slowed down. Let me ask you this: do you guys know the new chant? Good, better, best.
It's better.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Well, the way you say it makes it sound lame.
That's not good, Pete.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 8 Let me hear you say it.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's good, better, best.

Speaker 9 Well, yeah, then there's like a no-st.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Till you good gets better, till you're better gets best.
Whoa,

Speaker 9 look at that. That's it.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're a hater.

Speaker 4 What's wrong with that, Pete? I don't.

Speaker 4 Listen, I would like to agree with you because I think I feel like we feel we fit the same role sometimes. We're the little spoon in this equation with our counterparts here.

Speaker 4 Can I hear Kyle say it before I judge it? I want to hear a football guy say it.

Speaker 1 What did he say?

Speaker 7 Good, better, best,

Speaker 7 until your good gets better,

Speaker 7 to your better gets best. I mean, are you kidding me, bro? So, like, I was a big BU guy for Matt and Aggie, and

Speaker 7 I use the BU mantra. I write it on my paper every Sunday before I do my show.

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 7 when Ben Johnson's mantra is like, let's just go kill everybody,

Speaker 7 I feel like I would align align with that well as well. And it's evidenced in those close games, dude.
The killer instinct, we want the ball back. And if we do get it back, we are going to score.

Speaker 7 I saw that type of confidence in Kansas City, and I am in no way comparing Patrick Mahomes to Caleb Williams, but the clutch factor, the belief, and I hear Patrick Mannelly talk about this all the time: the belief in this locker room.

Speaker 7 It's, you know, it's priceless, and it gives them an opportunity to win every single time when they have the chance.

Speaker 1 That's coming from a guy who's in a locker room, unlike Pete.

Speaker 4 Well, Pete played high school football.

Speaker 1 You're an authentic line, right? You were a guard.

Speaker 9 I also know it's corny. It's a little corny to me.

Speaker 4 It wouldn't get you fired up.

Speaker 1 It takes something a little stronger than that to get Pete.

Speaker 7 But you can't half-ass that saying. You can't half-ass do it.
And that's why I give Ben Johnson a ton of credit. Everything this guy does is so insane that it's authentic.

Speaker 7 Like, it's not quite insane yet, but it's like next door neighbors to insanity, but the good kind of neighbor to insanity. I feel like the guys are invigorated by that.

Speaker 7 And, you know, in order to get that stench out of the building that we've had the last handful of years, the last 40, some would argue, 50, whatever it is, you need a psychopath, dude.

Speaker 7 And they've got one. And like, I enjoy watching the Bears every week.
It looks like all the guys are coached by the same person.

Speaker 7 Like, when I watch the O-line, for example, if you watch them the last couple of years, it's like, who are the bastards that are coaching these guys? Because they're all using different techniques.

Speaker 7 They're blocking each other half the time. You watch this team, dude.
They are on a mission.

Speaker 7 Like the door just dropped on the U-boat, and they're going out of that thing to go kick some ass every single play, bro. And I love that about this team.

Speaker 4 I like your take, too, that it's like the Monsters. They're the Monstars of the Midway.

Speaker 4 And you could argue, we've talked about this on this show where it feels like last year the Commanders took that from the Bears after the Bears game.

Speaker 4 And then this year, the Bears took it from the Commanders after that game. And it's like divergent paths for each franchise.
Kind of a sliding doors game, no matter who who wins that one.

Speaker 4 I think that the Bears are good. I think that they're a good team.
I don't think that they're going to win many playoff games, but that's fine.

Speaker 4 That's still a great season for them. Between the two of you guys, who has had the better season picking games?

Speaker 1 Me.

Speaker 9 But it's been close. And I've been doing it.

Speaker 7 It's hot and cold for both of us.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and I had a couple of weeks where I was just garbage. And Kyle pulled ahead of me, but in recent weeks, he's been garbage.

Speaker 9 And I've hit my best bets better than he has but he killed us last killed me last year on those but so far it's been me and I've had a couple really good weeks and I've had some really bad weeks by the way I mean look it's this week this season is goofy you guys know yeah it's hard to pay the emotions I mean how do we gauge like when

Speaker 9 Green Bay goes and beats Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers it comes home and loses to Carolina I mean that yeah you know Buffalo goes on the road and loses to Miami it's just so tough to get a feel for this and so our picks have kind of

Speaker 9 shown that we've had rough seasons, although I'm above 500 right now.

Speaker 7 It makes it fun, though, to come in and be like, I can't believe I was wrong there. Why was I wrong?

Speaker 1 How did this happen?

Speaker 7 And then you go watch the Panthers and you're like, wait, the Panthers are a good football team.

Speaker 7 We're spoiled as fans of football to get to see in actuality, you know, I'll say 32 teams that can play some good football.

Speaker 7 The Titans have a lot of work to do, but like, let's use the Browns, for example. They punish people every single week defensively.

Speaker 7 And it's just by nature of the fact that there's only four elite teams,

Speaker 7 people will never have an appreciation for like a true appreciation for a guy like Miles Garrett or the season a rookie Carson Schwesinger's had in Cleveland.

Speaker 7 Stuff like that goes unnoticed, but there's good ball being played everywhere. And that's why it's so hard to pick these games.

Speaker 4 That's actually a very healthy way to look at it. What did I get wrong? We do absolutely no self-reflection on this show.

Speaker 4 We just get mad and we don't really know who to blame it unless we just put it all on Hank. That's kind of our direction for it.

Speaker 4 So, when it comes to the contest or like the season-long record that you guys have, is there anything at stake? Do you guys have a bet?

Speaker 7 No, shit talk every single week. When that graphic comes up in the intro, it's either Pete laughing or me laughing.

Speaker 9 That's really what we play for.

Speaker 9 One of us wants to hide and shame

Speaker 9 every week. It's just so bad.
You look at the best bet record, and it's like, oh my God, are we this stupid?

Speaker 9 Actually, we are.

Speaker 9 The bottom line is we have fun that show is so much fun to do we laugh the breaks the breaks are incredible by the way i can tell you that the breaks in that show we laugh our asses off and chris hassel does a great job and and we just we have fun with it it's as much as anything i've done it's the most fun we do there and by the way he replaced brady quinn who i had i did that with brady quinn for a long time and kyle just stepped right in seamlessly and and picked up the picked up the pace and he's done a great job with it yeah you guys have fun i like watching the show.

Speaker 4 I truly watch it every week, and I enjoy what you guys have going on there. I know that you've been talking a lot about the Chiefs and how broken they are.

Speaker 4 Is there a way that they can move forward that they can fix it? Is it fixable this season?

Speaker 1 Well, Mr.

Speaker 9 Michael Jordan needs to start playing like Michael Jordan, for one. I mean, you know, Patrick Mahomes hasn't been himself, and last week, that game was on him.

Speaker 9 You know, we want to talk about everybody else, and we give him all the kudos all the time, but he wasn't very good last week. And so, I think he's got to take it upon himself to be better.

Speaker 9 And they got to get the ball down the field, and you can't throw that red zone interception. And so, this, they will get it going, by the way.

Speaker 9 I'm in the minority on that. I know a lot of people are ready to throw dirt on them.
I think they beat the Colts this week.

Speaker 9 I think the schedule is favorable the rest of the way, and they'll get into the playoffs. And you know what they'll do when they get into the playoffs?

Speaker 9 Be the team that nobody wants to play because they have Patrick Mahomes. He's just in a little bit of a slump.
He needs to start playing better.

Speaker 7 And Pete can talk about the offense, but at the end of the day, and Pete, I know we've all watched the Kansas City Chiefs dynasty. What is the one unsung hero for the Kansas City Chiefs?

Speaker 7 It's Steve Spagnola and his defense. Now, third down is widely known as the money down, and they have not been making money on the money down.
for the Kansas City Chiefs defensively.

Speaker 7 Even if you do have MJ over there on the sideline playing quarterback, you got to make some stops. And that's the one thing that went kind of unheralded through this whole dynasty was that defense.

Speaker 7 And the concern for me against this Indianapolis Colts team, which is a must-win for the Kansas City Chiefs, is you got to be able to put yourself in a good position on third down defensively because when you're going against Jonathan Taylor on first and second down, and then you've got a guy like Warren and the number of guys on the outside that can make plays in short areas, it's going to be tough sledding.

Speaker 7 So the Chiefs have to dominate first down against the Colts.

Speaker 1 I got a question for, I'll start with you, Kyle, and then I want to hear what you have to say, Pete. Are you enjoying watching the Philadelphia Eagles play football?

Speaker 7 You're starting with me? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I understand why people don't, and they want to vomit when they do, but my God, it's the best defense I've seen played in quite some time.

Speaker 7 And the heroics that have had to take place on that offensive line to fill in for guys that have come in and out and guys that are out there playing hurt.

Speaker 7 It's an inspiring brand of football. I would describe it as like trench warfare.

Speaker 7 We're only going to move two meters a day, but like, boy, we're going to celebrate those two meters and we're going to end up taking over your territory.

Speaker 7 And you look up amidst all these bitching and complaining about the Philadelphia Eagles, and they're in first place. And the defense is an absolute wagon.

Speaker 7 And you know for a fact that Jalen Hurts will figure something out in the playoffs. And if he does end up in the big game, he's going to play his balls off.

Speaker 7 And that's just the way that it's happened for the Eagles. Am I concerned with the noise coming out of the receiver room? Hell no.
This is par for the course, bro.

Speaker 7 This is just what happens in the NFL. I used to take the huddle with Martellis Bennett, Brandon Marshall, Jay Cutler, Matt Ford.
Shit is sad, buddy.

Speaker 7 We had to kick Brandon Marshall out of an inside run period because Jay wouldn't throw him the ball. Now, let me say that again.

Speaker 7 We kicked him out of a nine-on-seven running period because Brandon Marshall wanted the football.

Speaker 1 These receivers are just different, bro.

Speaker 7 And that's what you're seeing in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 4 I like that from a wide receiver.

Speaker 9 Guys, that's every wide receiver. I can tell you this 100%.

Speaker 9 Back in the day, when I covered Keenan McCardell and Jimmy Smith, and Keenan, who's now a wide receiver coach, by the way, we used to joke around and say he was mean and he was happier when he had three catches for 28 yards and they lost than he was.

Speaker 9 I mean, when he had 10 catches for 100 yards and they lost, and if he had three for 28 and they won. That's wide receivers.
They all bitch and moan.

Speaker 9 But at some point, you got to tell them to shut the hell up. And the great quarterbacks do.
I think Jalen Hurts is getting frustrated with those guys. I really do.

Speaker 9 And Siriani needs to tell them to shut up. Go play football.
The offense right now is not good at all. The route tree is primitive.

Speaker 9 People say it looks like a high school offense at times. I can understand.
They don't get a lot of separation. They need to go back to the roots.

Speaker 7 Greg Olson's got more routes in his offense with Luke Keekly than in that Pop Warner league.

Speaker 9 I can promise you that.

Speaker 9 You're not wrong. And they need to go back to their roots.
And what are the roots? Turn and hand the ball off to that guy who carried you to the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 9 And then you can throw off of that. I think that got away from who they are.
And Kyle mentioned that some of that has to do with the offensive line injuries. And now Lane Johnson isn't there.

Speaker 9 But Barkley has to carry that team. It can't be the other guys doing it.
It has to be him.

Speaker 4 So at some point, if Jalen's not the guy that's yelling at A.J.

Speaker 4 Brown and being like, shut the hell up, because unless there's something that hasn't been reported, it seems like that kind of went above Jalen's pay grade to the point where the owner stepped in.

Speaker 4 And the owner was like, hey, you got to chill out a little bit. Like, if that's coming from the owner and Jalen hasn't done that yet,

Speaker 4 I could see the team being like, hey, dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 Why aren't you stopping this? Why are you calling the principal?

Speaker 7 You got all the quotes, but none of the confrontational leadership. I mean, that's the hard part about being in the National Football League is it's grown men dealing with other grown men.

Speaker 7 And then you take into it the account, like

Speaker 7 you know, that these receivers are going to be a certain type of way. So, as a quarterback, this has to be an expectation.
You got to put out fires, dude. It's like being a parent, right?

Speaker 7 Like, no, you can't fucking have that dress. Your sister is wearing that dress right now.
Like, it doesn't make sense for you to freak out over this. Quarterbacks have to be good at that.

Speaker 7 And you either are or you aren't. And it's a personality thing.

Speaker 7 And I think Jalen is, I think he's a great leader. I think watching him play football is like inspiring, but some guys aren't cut out to deal with the diva personalities.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just thinking right now, my middle child is A.J. Brown right now, the way she's been acting around my house.

Speaker 4 She is A.J.

Speaker 1 Brown, and I'm not dealing with it well.

Speaker 1 She's about to go and see. You got to bring the owner downstairs?

Speaker 1 I had to carry her into school today because she's like, I don't want to, I'm just not going to school. I was like, well, this is a problem.
Yeah,

Speaker 7 I had to stuff Frankie, my almost four-year-old, into the car seat about an hour ago on the way to gymnastics because she wasn't ready to wake up from her nap. But you understand, it's like I'm suited

Speaker 7 for a little wrestling.

Speaker 9 Back in the day, you would have got a swat in the back of the head. You know, you can't do that stuff.
We don't do that, Pete.

Speaker 1 You're right, Pete. You're right.
All right, so I got a question about the AFC. I was wrong about the game on Sunday.
I thought the Chiefs were going to beat the Broncos.

Speaker 1 The Broncos impressed the hell out of me. Their defense, we know, is elite.
I thought Bo Nix was great, too, because

Speaker 1 watching Bo Nix, there's just quarters that go by where you're frustrated and you're like, what is going on? But then he makes big plays. He made some big plays in that game.

Speaker 1 Are we trusting Bo Nix, Pete?

Speaker 1 Not yet. Not yet.
Why?

Speaker 9 Because, look, there are, like you said, there are three quarters where most of the games where he does nothing, and then all of a sudden he comes alive. And it's just inconsistent.

Speaker 9 Okay, I'm going to give, you said the big play, the big play that he threw down the field to Franklin

Speaker 9 late in the game. Was that a good throw throw or a good adjustment by Franklin? And I asked that because somebody told me, they said, oh, I think he threw it away from the defensive back.

Speaker 9 I don't think so. I think it was just a bad throw.
And Franklin made a play on the ball. So there are things wrong with his game that I sit there and I say, I don't know if I believe in him yet.

Speaker 9 We all believe in the defense. And Sertan's not even there.
I mean, how good are they going to be? And that'll travel if they have to travel in the playoffs. But is the offense good enough?

Speaker 9 Do they run it well enough? Do they throw it well enough? I I just, as great a coach as Peyton is calling plays, at some point, that kid's got to be able to make plays in the pocket.

Speaker 9 You can't boot everything. And we sit and watch the games on Sunday and go, which way is he going, left or right? Is he going left or is he going right? And so I think that's my concern with them.

Speaker 1 Okay. Kyle, are you a believer in the Broncos?

Speaker 7 I'm a believer in the formula that they have and the recipe for success, which is dominate the line of scrimmage defensively. Have a stable of running backs that you can lean on.

Speaker 7 Have a quarterback that can cut the field in half to Pete's point. It can be to a detriment sometimes when that becomes what you lean into all the time.

Speaker 7 But as a guy who I rush the passer a little bit,

Speaker 7 I would hate to chase a guy around like Bo Nick's because he can throw it, he can run.

Speaker 7 At altitude, you get worn out up there chasing him around. But I have faith in the Broncos team.

Speaker 7 I just sometimes have to remove myself and go to 20,000 feet and say, this is a second-year quarterback. So, like,

Speaker 7 he's been okay

Speaker 7 and he's going to get better. And Sean Payton, like the most confident man in football, is the voice in his ear.
I think that's worth something in my opinion.

Speaker 9 And by the way, we asked this question the other day when we were sitting around. And so I'm curious to see what you guys say.

Speaker 9 If the Ravens have to go to Denver and the Chiefs have to go to New England, right now New England and Denver are the two best teams in the AFC record-wise, who would you pick?

Speaker 4 The Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I would take... I would take in that scenario, I'd probably take the Ravens.

Speaker 1 Wait, Ravens are going to Denver.

Speaker 4 I would take the Broncos and I would take the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'd take the Chiefs right now.

Speaker 7 The scientist in me says that the oxygenation or lack thereof in Lamar's hamstring would lead me to pick the Denver Broncos at altitude.

Speaker 1 That's a great call. All right, so Pete, we asked Booker this when he was on

Speaker 1 Wednesday.

Speaker 1 If I gave you to say, hey, go to the Super Bowl, the Broncos, the Patriots, the Colts on one side or the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Ravens on the other, You're going to take the Bills, Chiefs, and Ravens?

Speaker 1 Absolutely. 100%.

Speaker 1 He took the other side.

Speaker 9 Yeah, well, look, here's what I think about the Ravens, and I've said this many a time, and Kyle's heard me say this. I think the Ravens are victims of what happened to them in recent years.

Speaker 9 And by that, I mean, they were so good the regular season and put everything into the regular season, and Lamar won MVPs, and they got to the playoffs, and they stuck.

Speaker 9 Well, now they've struggled through this year, and they're going to have to work to get to the postseason.

Speaker 9 and once they get to the postseason i think the ravens health-wise they're going to be back to get most of those guys back when they get to the postseason they're going to be one of the most dangerous teams come playoff time i really believe that so i'll take the ravens the bills and the chiefs and you can have the other three At the beginning of the season, I picked the Eagles to beat the Ravens in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 And I thought myself a little bit insane at the beginning of the year with all the injuries in Philly up front. I said, well, there goes their X-Men superpower.

Speaker 7 And then Lamar Jackson goes down with a hamstring. We know how these hamstrings are.

Speaker 7 But then, even more concerning, the defense wasn't defensing in Baltimore. And our guy Roquan,

Speaker 7 he's woken up, and all the guys around him seemingly, you know, the type of energizer pony that Roquan is. And when he starts making plays, the next guy next to him makes plays.

Speaker 7 And it feels like they're kind of feeding off that in Baltimore. And they might kind of enjoy not being the

Speaker 7 anointed regular season champions this year. They're kind of sneak up on people.

Speaker 7 But it's funny that the two favorites, the Eagles and the Ravens, in my opinion,

Speaker 7 they have questions about them every single week and different questions. But like,

Speaker 7 this league, bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this league.

Speaker 4 There's another team in the NFC that's got some questions coming off of last week that I was really high on. I still am really high on them, but they took a small step back last week, the Seahawks.

Speaker 4 I still feel like they're an elite team, that they're capable of doing a lot of dangerous things in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Would you say that the Seahawks have a Sam Darnold problem, or would you say that Sam Darnold has a Rams problem specifically?

Speaker 9 I think he has a Rams problem, but I also think in the back of all our minds, and nobody will admit it, I will. I say it all the time.

Speaker 9 You think Sam Darnold is going to turn into Sam Darnold at some point? I mean, aside from last week, and I didn't think it would happen last week because it's a November game.

Speaker 9 You know, I figured it would happen in December or January. But he looked awful last week.

Speaker 9 And look, they threw some different looks at him, and they got pressure on the interior against him, and I get it, but he looked frazzled. And that can't happen.
It just can't happen to the big games.

Speaker 9 And it happened against them last year in the playoffs, and it just can't happen. And it's not just that team.
I think anybody who's going to get pressure on him is going to cause some problems.

Speaker 9 And so, yeah, there's a Sam Darnold problem, at least in my mind.

Speaker 9 And he, by the way, he's been having a great year, leading the league in yards per attempt, driving the ball down the field at a time when most teams won't do it. But the big moment,

Speaker 9 everybody has a doubt about him. I don't care.
If you don't say that, you're lying, unless you're part of the Seattle Seahawks, like Ernest Jones came out and defended him last week.

Speaker 7 I'm glad that you brought up Ernest Jones because I listened to Ernest Jones speak and I was like, man, I tip my cap to that guy because I've been in locker rooms before.

Speaker 7 And Big Cat, you've covered these locker rooms where the quarterback is under constant fire and people are always just waiting for that fucking shoe to drop.

Speaker 7 And I can't imagine the stress of being in Seattle being such a powerhouse of a football team. And the only thing people want to talk about is when's the magic going to run out on your quarterback.

Speaker 7 I am not panic selling on Sam Darnold. In fact, I would wait for this to happen two more times before I said they have a Sam Darnold problem.
He's been so good for the last 18 to 24 months.

Speaker 7 You can't deny that. And every quarterback, every guy in this league takes a different route to their final form.
And I think what we're seeing is Sam Darnold in his relative final form.

Speaker 7 And he's a damn good quarterback. Four picks ain't going to get it done against Matt Stafford, though.
He needs to be sure to taste that and move on.

Speaker 7 Find out exactly what it was that caused him to shrink either physically or mentally and get it out of your system, bro, because this Seahawks team is primed to go run the table in the NSC for real.

Speaker 7 They're a great team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So, other guy like that, Daniel Jones,

Speaker 1 are we saying

Speaker 1 he's new, Daniel Jones, or are we saying similar to Sam Darnold? Oh, you don't know when the shoe's going to drop. Pete, you're shaking your head.
What do you think?

Speaker 9 Well, usually in this league, you are what you are. I say it all the time.
You are what you are.

Speaker 9 You're going to have moments where you're up here, if you're one of those guys, and moments when you're down here, and eventually you're in the middle. And that's who you are.

Speaker 9 You know, the great ones always stay, usually stay up here. They might have a game or two down here.
But Daniel Jones in the last couple of games has turned the ball over a bunch.

Speaker 9 I mean, that's concerning. And they run the ball.
We know what Taylor is.

Speaker 9 Right now, he's the best back in the league, and they're good on the offensive line, and they have a great, you know, tight end, young tight end. But he can't turn the ball over.

Speaker 9 And you're starting to see in the last couple of weeks little hints that he might be turning.

Speaker 9 Our guys call him Indiana Jones, and he's turning back into Daniel Jones because he turned the ball over. So, yeah, I'm concerned because you are what you are.
You don't usually change that.

Speaker 1 Pete is the jock on this show.

Speaker 4 He hates every quarterback. He's like, these pretty boys.

Speaker 1 You can't even hit them in. You are what you are.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kyle, are you believing in the Colts?

Speaker 7 I think that as long as Quentin Nelson, as long as Jonathan Taylor, as long as Tyler Warren are healthy,

Speaker 7 I don't see why it wouldn't work. But I would say I have more questions about the Colts quarterback than I do about the guy in Seattle.
And,

Speaker 7 yeah, I mean, he's got to prove it to me more because Sam Darnold went on his mixtape tour last year. You know what I mean? Right.
Like, this is the Daniel Jones mixtape. And,

Speaker 7 yeah, I'll be interested to see the final tracks on the mixtape. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, guys, quick break from Pete Prisco and Kyle Long. Thanksgiving week is about to be here, which means three things.

Speaker 1 Football, food, and that one night where you see everyone you went to high school with at the same bar. Reunion, no one asked for, but we all somehow show up to.

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Speaker 1 Also, if you're listening in Madison, Wisconsin, for the Badgers versus the Illini on Saturday, if the Badgers score a touchdown, I'll be airdropping some Twisted T to State Street Prots.

Speaker 1 So if you're watching the game there and the Badgers score a touchdown, some Twisted T's on me, all you got to do is just be there. And I'm going to send some Twisted T's in.

Speaker 1 We're going to score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 I'm going to guarantee at least one touchdown in the game. And if that doesn't happen, then I'll still probably airdrop them after the game.
I'll tweet about it.

Speaker 1 Okay, back to Kyle Long and Pete Prisco.

Speaker 4 All right, I got a thought starter for you guys. It's more about quarterbacks, Pete.

Speaker 4 So you have a gun to your head, and the question is, you have to pick one of these two guys to go out and win you one football game. Go one for one in football games.

Speaker 4 And if you get it wrong, boom, sleeping with the fishies. Dead.
The quarterbacks are J.J. McCarthy and Shador Sanders.

Speaker 9 I think I'm dying, whichever one I pick.

Speaker 9 Say goodnight, you know, no. Get all your hook.
My papers in order. I'm done.

Speaker 9 Look, I was one of the few guys that didn't think J.J. McCarthy would be good in the NFL.
I just didn't.

Speaker 9 And for reasons that, you know, stories I heard and he's tightly wound and the whole deal, I just, I didn't think it would work. And a lot of the things that I thought, I'm seeing.

Speaker 9 You know, trying to be perfect and he's not perfect. You can't be perfect.
You got to play off script. You got to be able to do things.
You can't overthink it in the pocket like he does.

Speaker 9 And so I think,

Speaker 9 look, if Shadur Sanders, we have no idea. But if I had to pick one or I was going to die, I would probably go with J.J.
McCarthy and just hope like hell that there was nothing in the chamber. Okay.

Speaker 1 Because I don't want to die.

Speaker 7 Well, if you just pick J.J. McCarthy, now there's like 35 million people coming to like dropkick you, Pete Prisco.
You got to understand that because

Speaker 7 Shadur has a lot of fans. I'll say this.
I've seen J.J. McCarthy lead his team down the field.

Speaker 7 I haven't seen Shadur do it in the National Football League yet, but I I am anxiously awaiting his first real start this week against the Raiders.

Speaker 7 And obviously, I've kept my eye on Shadur for a long time because, you know, I too grew up in the shadow of somebody who was a Hall of Famer and a legend, and the pressure is immense.

Speaker 7 And that's from somebody who played at the line of scrimmage. Now we're talking about a quarterback in Shadur.

Speaker 7 I'm looking forward to seeing what he does because... I love good ball like the next guy, and I hope we get another quarterback that can play because it's great for the league.

Speaker 1 it's great for me and pete it's great for you guys everybody wins wait you said something there that's interesting so like obviously your dad's a hall of famer and and you know you and your brother played in the nfl did you feel the pressure of like or or maybe people were you know pointing you out being like from the first

Speaker 7 from the first day i put a helmet on i had a you know how they say when you're on a good team you got a target on your back well when you got a name that people know, you got a target on your back too.

Speaker 7 From the minute you step onto the field.

Speaker 7 And I just just remember whether it was verbal or guys you know trying me as the kids would say after the play stuff like that it was like head on a swivel all the time and it benefited me greatly at my position um

Speaker 7 because you know you have to have a little bit of that

Speaker 7 feel like you're backed up against the wall and you got haters everywhere when you come from a private school like i did you have to kind of create those that those fires that a lot that inspire a lot a lot of other people but shadur i mean he's had his bumps in the road and he's said things that he probably regrets, but everybody has.

Speaker 7 He's just under a different microscope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 It is interesting. So, when you were coming up playing ball, like in high school,

Speaker 4 what was your dad like in terms of

Speaker 4 how much praise he would give you after the game? Was it easy to earn the praise? Like, he was trying to encourage you, or was it like you got to earn it?

Speaker 7 It was definitely effort-based,

Speaker 7 effort-based grading scale. And, you know,

Speaker 7 whether or not I played well or played like shit, you know, we were going to go home and be a family and it was all going to be good.

Speaker 7 But, you know, when you were out there busting ass, because my younger brother was the quarterback. So when I was out there protecting him and flying around and being a demon,

Speaker 7 it was fun to hear from my dad, hey, like, that was, you know, that was some special stuff. That was really good.

Speaker 9 He didn't tell the story about when you played bad, your dad locked you in a room and you weren't allowed to eat for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he put me on the Harry Potter staircase and

Speaker 1 he made me eat roaches.

Speaker 4 Pete, so you played offensive line too, right? How much did you weigh when you played

Speaker 9 165 pounds?

Speaker 4 As a guard. Yes.

Speaker 1 Were you good? Yeah, really good.

Speaker 7 I was annoying as shit.

Speaker 9 I was dirty as dirty can be.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 9 it was anything and everything. Because the guys, you know, we played St.
Thomas Aquinas, which is one of the best schools in the country, and they weren't as good back then.

Speaker 9 But we played those schools.

Speaker 9 And so had to be i had to be dirty and nasty and and yeah i was a pig i mean i'll be honest about it i was dirty and and you know what's amazing about that this is a true story the toughest kid i ever faced was no bigger than me and he was like this kid from the country and his hair was in his eyes the whole hell that came it down and he's hitting me and hitting me and i'm hitting him and i'm hitting him and i'm telling you it was as dirty as it can get and at the end of the game i saw him standing over the pile and i go i'm getting one last one in and I came running across the field and blasted him and sent him another thing.

Speaker 9 And they threw me out of the game with about 15 seconds left.

Speaker 4 I need footage of Prisco playing O-line so bad. I wish there was like Huddle back then so I could get my hands on it.
I wish I could see it too.

Speaker 9 We used to have to go back, we could go watch the tape. It wasn't tape then, it was a film.
You'd have to go in and sit in the room turn on a projector.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Pete, do you bench more than Kyle?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 9 But I can say this, though, with 100% certainty. I turned 65 on October 5th, and that morning I was in the gym throwing 75-pound dumbos up 12 times.
How about that?

Speaker 1 Oh, I love that.

Speaker 7 I felt Pete's arm when walking. I gave him one of the, like, I cupped his tricep walking into the studio the other day, and

Speaker 7 it was like a horse's leg.

Speaker 4 You got the barbed wire tattoo, right, Pete? What's that? You have the barbed wire tattoo. I have road tattoos.

Speaker 1 You got the Urlacher?

Speaker 1 Kyle, that is something, like, is that just an offensive lineman thing where, because Kadick does that all the time in the office, where if you walk by Kadik, he's just going to grab you.

Speaker 1 It's like, dude, can you please not?

Speaker 7 I'm touchy feely.

Speaker 7 I feel like all offensive linemen get it from a coach that at one point touched them like that. And it usually happened on a recruiting visit.

Speaker 7 The easiest way to recruit these high school guys, this sounds so horrible out of context, but if

Speaker 7 you've got a 17-year-old young man on your campus, the easiest way to find out about him is give him the old cup, cup to the hamstring, cup to the tricep in intro in introducing yourself you get to see if he makes eye contact get his name find out what his voice is like and then you get to feel a little hamstring and tricep that's where they do the recruiting all the other is just fluff

Speaker 1 so so you could you could touch a guy's leg and you could tell us if he's going to be someone i could look at somebody's leg but you know if there's any deliberation i got it i got to get my hands on it

Speaker 9 it's like the guy who you ever see the guy that walks around he's all yoked and everything and then you look at his legs and he's got these tiny, skinny legs.

Speaker 9 You know, he skipped leg day, and he couldn't play offensive line. That's a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's like there was that clip of Harbaugh when Joe Alt got drafted, and he had Joe Alt and his dad go back to back, and he was just like, he was just marveling

Speaker 1 at the size.

Speaker 7 Joe Alta created in a lab.

Speaker 1 Yeah. By the way, the Chargers, I feel like, you know, they're struggling right now, or at least they were against the Jaguars.
Are they in deep waters without Joe Alt?

Speaker 1 Because it does feel like they're a different team. Obviously, they lost for sean slater what is there any fix for their offensive line and what they want to do or is it

Speaker 7 time and treatment and uh getting ready to run it out there again because dude when slater and alt are on the field and justin herbert is a quarterback it is like

Speaker 7 Unbelievable to watch the pockets this guy can stand in and just launch his rocket launcher from. Now he's got to move around, get creative in the backfield.
The pockets always collapsing.

Speaker 7 They had to friggin get him off the turf the other day with a skit, you know, one of those little spatulas. The guy stuck to the ground.

Speaker 7 And it's just like the concerns I have with Philadelphia without Lane. There's so many things you can do from a protection standpoint with Joe Alt on the field.

Speaker 7 And then obviously with Slater on the field, too, it just becomes peeling bananas in the middle three.

Speaker 7 But yeah, the Chargers, without those two guys, their identity is not.

Speaker 1 uh grabbable for them yeah yeah pete you're out on the chargers they're not making the playoffs

Speaker 1 Oh. They're not.

Speaker 9 And it's going to come down to that Chiefs-Chargers game, and I think the Chiefs will beat them. They're 7-4, but if you look at their schedule, it's brutal.
And that offensive line is horrible.

Speaker 9 Look, last week, Jacksville went into that game, couldn't rush the passer at all, and they rushed the passer. They got after the quarterback.
It's so bad.

Speaker 9 You know, you think Penning's going to fix it in left tackle? They yanked him out of the game. He was so bad.
It's a terrible offensive line.

Speaker 9 And he just got there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was awful.

Speaker 9 He was awful.

Speaker 1 Pete, you're a big uh schedule guy the patriots have had a pretty easy schedule do you believe in them or you think it's like hey once they play because they have had two tests the bucks and the bills and they passed both both those tests so where do you where do you think that they you know come into the picture for the afc playoffs i think they're a year ahead of schedule so whatever they get this year is gravy i really i thought they were going to be good next year they're they're ahead of that for me at least and so you're right they but they went to buffalo and beat the bills and and they beat tampa and those are are two, you know, those are the games you looked at.

Speaker 9 You say, prove it to me, games. And they proved it.
So it's hard to doubt them. Now they got the Bengals this week and then the, what, the Giants next week, and then they go to the buy.

Speaker 9 They're going to go probably go to the buy on a 10-game winning streak, and nobody knows if they're that good. I mean, that's the reality of it.

Speaker 9 We've got to be impressed with the quarterback. They do some good things on defense.
They can cover on the back end.

Speaker 9 But do you really, again, I go back to what I said earlier, do you really believe in that team? If Buffalo and New England played on a neutral field, who would you pick?

Speaker 7 Well, I've watched the Buffalo Bills get beat by them in a write out.

Speaker 9 That was a time ago, though.

Speaker 1 That was a while ago.

Speaker 7 That was like week 20 for Drake May, bro.

Speaker 9 But now the Bills are getting healthier on defense because, look, the run defense has been awful. They haven't had guys in there who could stop the run.
They're getting healthier on defense.

Speaker 9 I think getting Harrison back is big for them. But again, give Frable a ton of credit.
He showed the formula. Coach, quarterback.
If you have that, you're winning.

Speaker 9 Everything else, you can supplement around.

Speaker 7 Coach, quarterback, and $330 million worth of acquisitions in the offseason. Good point.
Oh, yeah. And all of them hit.
You know, like, it's oftentimes we see these guys that get out.

Speaker 7 So, like, let's say after four years in Chicago, Chicago liked me, but they didn't love me. And I got to test free agency.
And then I get to go to New England.

Speaker 7 Well, what if I showed up and I sucked there? That's usually what happens. You're not getting what you pay for.

Speaker 1 New England got what they paid for.

Speaker 7 And I credit Mike Vrabel and his staff for really identifying those guys because they just got a bunch of tough, crazy sons of bucks.

Speaker 7 And it starts with Drake May, dude, and the calm and the confidence that he has. There is no elixir, there is no antidote for extreme accuracy.
And his completion percentage is

Speaker 7 all that I need to see. And the explosive plays, the distribution of the football, guys like Stefan Diggs having a renaissance,

Speaker 7 the New England Patriots are for real.

Speaker 7 And then they're not going to fumble it when it comes down to situational awareness, game management, clock management, because who's better than Mike Vrabel at that?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And you're right about the free agency stuff.
Usually when you're a free agent, you're a free agent for a reason, and it doesn't work out.

Speaker 7 They don't let good players walk, big gang.

Speaker 9 You know what's funny about Drake May?

Speaker 9 Drake May is like, to me, and there were some people during the draft because he worked out with him and he trained with him before the draft is that he's like Philip Rivers.

Speaker 9 And, you know, Philip Rivers, I once told Philip Rivers, I go, Philip, I've talked to many a player about you, and you know what they say?

Speaker 9 They say you're the biggest asshole on the field and the nicest guy in the world off it. And you know what he said? He goes, I'll take it.
And that's what Drake May is. Drake May is awesome.

Speaker 9 And then he gets on the field and he's a killer. That's what he is.
He's an on-the-field killer, but oh, shucks, awesome, shucks off the field, you know?

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 4 What about the Steelers? I feel like this conversation's been disrespectful to our friends in Pittsburgh. Talking about the Ravens, how you trust them, how they'll get into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 It's like every game's a playoff game now for them. The Steelers are still in first place in that division.

Speaker 4 And the Steelers, they are kind of, they do control their own destiny, but everyone's just putting the, we're writing the Ravens in.

Speaker 4 So is there anything about the Steelers that could make you believe? Like, what do you need to see out of them for you to say, okay,

Speaker 4 I think that the Steelers are going to be just fine?

Speaker 9 Well, where's Rogers in terms of his health? I mean, that's number one. And number two, he wasn't playing that well even before this injury.
The last couple weeks, he hadn't been that good.

Speaker 9 And so that's concerning to me. They've had, you know what they've been? They've been one of the most inconsistent teams out there when you think about it.

Speaker 9 There were weeks where they were really good on offense and terrible on defense and weeks where they were really bad on offense and good on defense.

Speaker 9 And so I think at some point that catches up with you. I don't think there's a consistency there.
And what was it, two weeks ago, the Chargers just

Speaker 9 waylaid them. I mean, they didn't do anything.
And Rodgers looked old in that game. So I'm concerned about the Steelers.
I know Tomlin does a great job. They have two games with the Ravens.

Speaker 9 Like you said, it's there for you. Go take it.
It's yours if you want it.

Speaker 7 Now, those divisional games, particularly in the AFC North, I mean, it kind of, I feel like everybody gets nerfed in those games.

Speaker 7 And by that, I mean, like, the Browns, we expect the Browns to beat the Ravens when they play. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that happens in the AFC North.
It's like the Wild West.

Speaker 7 If I'm a Steelers fan, I'm like, I'm kind of glad that people have been disrespectfully not talking about us because you get Aaron Rodgers and everybody on the planet wants to talk about him. And

Speaker 7 Mike Tomlin is a guy that we talk about every offseason, Pete.

Speaker 7 I feel like you're right where you got him right where we want him. And in addition to that, Aaron Rodgers is about to get the script for some perks.

Speaker 7 And if you've ever been on TikTok, Perk Rodgers is about as dangerous a human being as you can ever have. And he's going to Chicago this week.

Speaker 7 And if you know anything about Aaron Rodgers, he loves that shit. And so I'm cautiously optimistic about the Bears.

Speaker 7 And a little bit of me is like, well, you got the most expensive defense on the planet, Pittsburgh Steelers. Eventually, these guys are going to show up and start playing.

Speaker 7 And to Pete's point, defense and the offense, once they match up, I feel like they can beat anybody, but they can also be beat by anybody because of their inconsistency, particularly defensively.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when it comes to Spitgate,

Speaker 4 to

Speaker 4 getting spat on Colin, have you ever been spit on during a game? Little Hawk 2 action.

Speaker 7 I don't think I've been spit on during a game. I've seen it happen.
And when I was growing up, it was Romanowski, I think, spit on somebody.

Speaker 7 And that was like in my house, I was like, you don't do that. I remember my dad being like, you don't do that.
I like Bill, but you don't do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can imagine nobody, yeah. You seem like a guy that would not get spit on.
Yeah. You have to deal with the repercussions.

Speaker 1 Pete, you seem like a guy who'd spit on people.

Speaker 9 No, I never spit on anybody. Even like when I was a kid, I thought, because that's something like a second grader does when he's backed into a corner, he starts spitting on kids.
Get out of here.

Speaker 4 Dinosaur interest.

Speaker 9 It's one of the most vile, disgusting things you can do. It's an insult to the oomph degree.
And Jalen Ramsey held back. He should have beat the daylights out of him for getting spit on.

Speaker 9 I think it's gross. I never spit on anybody in my life.
I can honestly say that, nor would I, and nor has anybody ever spit on me. I can tell you that with 100% certainty.

Speaker 7 Pete talked to a story about one time a guy dumped a beer on his head. That's true.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 9 Oh, that's a true story.

Speaker 9 I was in a bar, and this guy was acting up, and he was enormous. He was an enormous guy.
He started in with my brother, and I go, let me stand there.

Speaker 9 And all I'm doing is standing, minding my own business, you know, talking to my buddies, you know, having a good old time.

Speaker 9 And he looked at me, gave me an elbow, and I said, dude, I go, you better back the hell off. You know, I think I might have said I might stab him or something, kinned around him.

Speaker 9 And next thing I know,

Speaker 9 about an hour later, I feel, whoosh, he dumped like a 32-ounce beer right on my head.

Speaker 1 Well, faster than mini-friends.

Speaker 9 And like, I was like stunned. I'm like, what's going on here? So with one, not without even thinking, I reared back and threw the best punch I've ever thrown in my entire life.

Speaker 9 And he fell like a tree.

Speaker 1 Oh, let's go.

Speaker 9 And next thing I know, me and my brother were like stomping him like out of a scene of goodfellas. And they pulled the bouncers come in and pulled me out.

Speaker 9 And then they pull Norman's bastard, and then they pull him out. And I go, Uh-oh, we better get out of here.

Speaker 9 The amazing thing about that, and I told Kyle this: I said, if that guy squared up and just regular combat with me, he would have beat the daylights out of me.

Speaker 9 He just was that big and everything, but I got one in and he fell like a tree.

Speaker 7 Flashbanged.

Speaker 1 That worked. Fucked yes.

Speaker 4 No such thing as a sucker punch if he pours a beer on you. No, no, no.

Speaker 9 He should have expected it.

Speaker 9 I mean, mean that was it was like i mean i you i can't you never threw a punch that good in my life nor will i ever again it was unbelievable but word got around to all the other big guys no i remember what i mean i was like

Speaker 1 we had a big guy meeting actually no i got a big meal

Speaker 9 i'd go in the bar and hope my god never came back again

Speaker 1 pete's off the list pete's and we're we're not going to mess with pete anymore yeah all right boys has been awesome we got to do this again i i got one last question roback question r-h-o-b-ac-c-k.com promo code code take 20% off your first purchase.

Speaker 1 Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com, promo code take. So we've danced around it.
Let's get it on the record. We'll do the seven teams to make the playoffs in the AFC and the NFC.

Speaker 1 Let's start. We'll start with Pete in the AFC and then move to Kyle AFC, then we'll go to the NFC.
So, Pete, AFC, seven teams in the playoffs when we start them in January.

Speaker 9 No order, right?

Speaker 1 No order. Yeah, don't do seedings.
Just give me the seven teams: Buffalo, New England,

Speaker 1 Baltimore,

Speaker 9 Denver, Kansas City,

Speaker 9 Indy, and Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jacksonville.

Speaker 9 Look at their schedule. It's a joke.

Speaker 4 I've heard you talk about the Jaguars schedule before.

Speaker 4 I jumped ahead of the curve a little bit on that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit. I mean,

Speaker 4 I don't hate that take. The Jaguars, I just don't trust them.
Yeah. Whatever happened to you are who you are with Trevor Lawrence.
So that means that

Speaker 1 he hasn't been great.

Speaker 9 I'll be honest with you. Trevor Lawrence is on his seventh mixtape now.

Speaker 9 If they beat the Cardinals this week, then they got the Titans and then the Colts at home, and they never lose to him and the Jets at home. They should win three or four of those games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and so for everyone at home, that means the Chargers and the Steelers are out. What about you, Kyle?

Speaker 7 This is so crazy, and I hate doing these because it involves counting.

Speaker 7 But Patriots, just stop me when I get to seven.

Speaker 1 Patriots, Broncos, Bills, Ravens,

Speaker 1 Colts.

Speaker 7 I guess you got to go

Speaker 7 Jags.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 would the Chiefs be able to get in there statistically?

Speaker 7 I'm not putting the Chiefs out of the playoffs. Is that seven?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's seven. So you guys have the same seven.
You got the same seven. All right.
NFC, I think, will differ because I know where Pete's going to go. Go ahead, Pete.

Speaker 1 Eagles. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Packers. Lions,

Speaker 9 Seahawks, Rams,

Speaker 1 Bucks.

Speaker 9 That last one's tough for me. Niners.

Speaker 1 I knew you were going to do it, you fucking asshole.

Speaker 1 Kyle, I assume you have the same except Niners out, Bears in.

Speaker 7 Eagles, Rams, Bucks, Lions, Seahawks,

Speaker 7 Niners, Bears.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. I mean, mean, look, hey,

Speaker 7 take the Packers out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Pete, you want to talk schedule? The Packers got a tough schedule as well.

Speaker 9 What about the Cowboys possibly sneaking in?

Speaker 1 What about the Dolphins sneaking in?

Speaker 9 No, stop with that.

Speaker 1 Stop with that.

Speaker 1 You want to get crazy? You want to get crazy, Pete? The Dolphins and the Cowboys in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 They've been wiping the shit out of the ball the last couple weeks.

Speaker 7 They're kind of

Speaker 7 like a bad game.

Speaker 9 The Cowboys beat the Eagles this week. I mean, you know, then they got the Packers on Thanksgiving and they win that.
I mean, you know.

Speaker 1 they got the Chiefs, Chiefs on Thanksgiving. I do think that the defense and Dallas got way better.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, like the defense tie, but that tie could actually play to the advantage of those teams down the road, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Cowboys have the Eagles this week. If they win that game, they have the Chiefs at home.
They then have to go to the Lions, which would be a tough game.

Speaker 1 And they finish with the Vikings, Chargers at home, Commanders, Giants on the road. Those are four games they could win.
So if they can go,

Speaker 1 if they can go, what, two and one in the next three? Yes.

Speaker 1 They could end up with 10 wins.

Speaker 4 And they might be the team that nobody wants to play. Wow.
Because the offense is, it seems unstoppable. And then the defense might be average.

Speaker 1 Well, no, the defense back.

Speaker 9 You get those guys back on defense. That changes the whole.
And you add those guys. You had Quentin Williams in the middle.
It changes the whole way they play. Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I meant average as a compliment for him. That's a massive compliment compared to what they were at the start of the year.

Speaker 7 I just thought of what we disagree on, and we'll leave on this one. But Pete hates that Dan Campbell goes for it all the time.

Speaker 1 Oh, of course he does.

Speaker 7 And I love that he goes for it all the time. Yeah, Pete,

Speaker 4 he is who he is. You said it yourself.
Dan Campbell is who he is. Dance the dance that got you to the dance, buddy.

Speaker 4 Pete wants him to change because he's tasted a little bit of success because that's how Pete handled success because now he's a diva. But Dan Campbell is not going to change at all.

Speaker 4 He's going to keep going for it on fourth down, and his team loves him for it.

Speaker 7 And if he doesn't go in on fourth down, then he sees, when he looks in the mirror, he sees every coach that he hated they're either gonna have pitchforks or or fireworks in detroit at the end of every season you know who used to go for it will happen because of dan campbell you know who used to go for it brandon staley used to go for it all the time how did that work out for him he changed brandon staley changed the way he did

Speaker 9 look if he had kicked field goals the other night would he have won the game maybe not it's a it's a possibility he might have won even that win but would the would the lions be as good of a team if he kicked a bunch of field goals i'm okay with aggression i'm not okay with aggressive stupidity.

Speaker 9 That's the

Speaker 1 aggression. You're a pussy.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 9 I love it. I think these teams are careful.

Speaker 1 I think these teams are all playing like pussy.

Speaker 9 They're all soft. They don't throw the ball down the field anymore.
Everybody's scared. All the coordinators are scared.
Look at the completion percentage.

Speaker 9 Some of the greatest in the history of the league have happened the last two years because everybody's a little dinker and a dunker. Throwing a damn ball down the field.

Speaker 1 I love it. Pete, I got one last thing here for you.

Speaker 4 This might be a little bit of gotcha journalism on my part, but in my defense, I was getting my hair cut the other day, and they had the TV that was on CBS, and I forget what show it was, but behind one of the guys on there, they had an old fantasy draft board that was the guy's background.

Speaker 4 And I got to look at your fantasy draft choices. I want to say this was probably 2019 or 2020.

Speaker 4 Your first two picks in your fantasy league were Trevor Lawrence and Travis Atien. Oh, no,

Speaker 1 that tracks. I have it right here.

Speaker 4 I have the big board right here.

Speaker 9 Let me see it.

Speaker 4 Pug took a picture of it.

Speaker 4 I'll text it to you. I'll text it to you right now.

Speaker 9 I'm curious to see, because

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 2019?

Speaker 4 Maybe 2020? I'm not sure. It doesn't say the year.
You also had Sam Darnold.

Speaker 9 That's got to be somebody's playing a joke on me by putting that up.

Speaker 4 I'm curious to know how bad your team was that year. Well, Mike.

Speaker 1 Your record was.

Speaker 9 You know what? My fantasy team's always stunk. And you know why? Because I don't like fantasy football, to be honest with you.
You play real football, Pete.

Speaker 1 We don't mess around with that fantasy bullshit.

Speaker 9 That wizard bullshit. A guy can rush for 150 yards and not get a touchdown.
And some idiot comes in and gets two one-yard touchdowns. They get the same number of points.
Is that the same game? Amen.

Speaker 1 Amen. In my day, we played man football, Kyle Long.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't know about.

Speaker 1 Amen. All right.
Well, boys, you guys are the best. Thank you so much.

Speaker 10 Everyone watch them.

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Speaker 1 Thank you guys. Thanks, y'all.
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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, Fire Fest of the week time wrapping up the show, getting us ready for week 12, Henry.

Speaker 6 This one, it's a fire turning into a fire, F-I-R-E.

Speaker 6 Oh, no. I'm starting to get into, I'm starting to enjoy my reading of Don Quixote.

Speaker 1 No way. Tell me about it.

Speaker 6 I don't, I finally, I think I actually took a picture of when it finally I realized the windmill thing because it happened like 20 paid or it happened 64 pages in.

Speaker 1 Was the first windmill?

Speaker 6 Was the first like that windmills are the enemy. Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 And that's when you start to really identify with the main character. Well, that's when I was like, oh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 I love that you're reading this.

Speaker 6 It's... I don't exactly know when it takes place.

Speaker 6 I don't know, 1400s, Mexico, 1500s, somewhere in between

Speaker 6 yeah whatever yeah uh

Speaker 6 not the same you're the one reading it 60 pages in yeah it's just about a guy with special needs okay who hates windmills who read a bunch of books went crazy convinced himself he was a knight and then goes out on this quest but then there was a big like last night i was reading and i was like i'm gonna finish this chapter at the end of the chapter the the author just stopped writing What do you mean?

Speaker 6 It was like he was in a battle. I thought he was about to die.
It was honestly, honestly,

Speaker 6 I don't want to spoil task, but I thought he was about to die.

Speaker 4 The book came out in the 1400s.

Speaker 6 No, I'm saying I was going to relate it to another show, but I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 He's in a battle.

Speaker 6 Seems like he's overmatched. He's about to die.
And then it's like, and this is where the author stopped writing.

Speaker 6 So then I think the story becomes about another author who read an unfinished work and then sets out to find the finished works.

Speaker 4 That's very relatable. He just, he was like, I'm done writing.
It's too much. Yeah.
I don't know.

Speaker 6 It's basically of this shit. It reminds me of, it's like Trailer Park Boys, Ricky and Bubbles is the best way I could describe Don Quixote.

Speaker 6 He convinced his simple-minded neighbor to be his squire, and they just set off and he just gets in fights.

Speaker 4 I gotta be honest, Hank, this is an excellent book report so far.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm enjoying this.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I've got it's there's a lot of work, like, you know, a little bit, the language is kind of a lot, but it's like Game of Thrones where it's like they just speak, you know, a little bit ridiculously, but it's not, it's not bad.

Speaker 6 I was like a little, I was like, literally had a what the fuck, like at the end of the chapter, where I was like, wait, it was like, you know, he charged at the guy with his spear, and that's where the author stopped writing.

Speaker 1 Are you becoming a book guy? It's peaceful.

Speaker 6 It's good. It's good, you know, a couple chapters a night.
And then last night I was like, actually, like, I kept, I read another chapter.

Speaker 1 Oh, my last chapter.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Careful.

Speaker 4 Are you, are you having to like stop and go back and reread a page that you just because I do that sometimes where I'll finish the end of a page and then I'll think to myself, I actually wasn't reading.

Speaker 4 My eyes were just going down the page. I don't, I didn't absorb anything that was on there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it's fun.

Speaker 6 It's not bad.

Speaker 1 I like it. I like that you're reading.
Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 It'll be good.

Speaker 6 I actually think I'll be done with it. Like, I'm going to spend Thanksgiving

Speaker 6 in New Hampshire and won't have much to do. So I think I'll be able to bang it out.
A thousand pages? I'm like 100 in. Okay.

Speaker 4 Has it made you reconsider your windmill take?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Can you do me a favor? Can you just, after you finish this book, I would like you to just make references to it all the time. Yeah, that would be awesome.
There's some good quotes in there. Okay.

Speaker 6 They also, there's an F slur. There's an F slur just in there out of context.

Speaker 4 Talk about cigarettes?

Speaker 6 No, talking about...

Speaker 6 I don't even know what it was talking about.

Speaker 1 What F slur?

Speaker 4 Like, these windmills are a bunch of F slurs.

Speaker 6 They were burning books because he goes crazy and they're like his helpers and like, you know, people that work at his house were like, we got to burn all the books so he doesn't go crazy.

Speaker 6 And they said the first, talking talking about a book the first f-word in the fire oh yeah it's a yeah piece of wood

Speaker 1 yeah it's a thing yeah got it yeah a bundle of wood yeah

Speaker 1 okay good not really a fire fest but i like fire turning into like it's like it was a yeah it's starting to be awesome yeah it's really cool okay pft uh my fire fest is i i lost a dm today

Speaker 4 And I think you might understand what I mean in a second, but I was I've been doing a lot of plane tracking because it's college football coaching search season and I

Speaker 4 have people that track some of the planes for me. I dabble in it, but I've got guys that really know what they're doing tracking the planes and give me updates.
And

Speaker 4 I received one update today, which I then tried to verify with another guy to get the extended itinerary of this jet.

Speaker 4 So I took a screenshot of the private flight that was entering and departing a certain college town for a different college town.

Speaker 4 And then I wrote about a paragraph about how I want to find the different stopover locations that this jet has been on, excluding all the repositioning flights, which don't mean anything.

Speaker 4 They're like red herrings in the coaching search. And it was a very detailed request of what I was looking for.

Speaker 4 And I was writing it as I was walking, and I was also talking to like two different people. And then I sat down on the couch.
I exited Twitter and I went back in.

Speaker 4 I did like a couple other things on my phone. I went back into Twitter.
The DM was not there. I hit, I attached the photo, I hit send,

Speaker 4 and it's not there.

Speaker 4 And now I'm thinking that I might have texted it to somebody

Speaker 4 like the wrong number

Speaker 4 that has no idea what the hell I'm asking about. I might have DM'd it to the wrong person that I had an open DM conversation with.
Whatever it is, it's lost.

Speaker 4 And somebody out there got the most confusing text of all time from me demanding updates on the flight logs. Right.
There's a lot of that going around.

Speaker 1 So, so what's the solution here?

Speaker 4 So I don't know. The solution is it's just out there, and now I'm just, I'm dealing with the anxiety of not needing to.
Yeah, knowing where this message went.

Speaker 4 Where this very strange request went out into the ether.

Speaker 1 That actually is very scary. It is kind of scary.

Speaker 4 So if I freaked anybody out, if you're listening to me and I freaked you out, that was not meant for you. And I apologize.

Speaker 4 But at the same time, if you could get me those flight logs, I would really appreciate it. If you could figure out how to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's someone find them. Now.

Speaker 4 The Fire Fest behind the Fire Fest is worse than the Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 Of course, it always is.

Speaker 4 Because the real Fire Fest was the nature of these flight logs that I'm looking at. And

Speaker 4 congratulations, Max, is all I'm going to say. Whoa.

Speaker 1 What happened, Max?

Speaker 4 Nitney Lions.

Speaker 1 It means nothing. What? Who?

Speaker 4 There's only one reason in the entire world that a flight would go to State College from another unnamed.

Speaker 1 Wait, I thought it went from State College to...

Speaker 4 It is, and going back to state college.

Speaker 1 Wait, is it your coach?

Speaker 4 I don't want to get into rumors. It is?

Speaker 4 There is a there's only one reason why

Speaker 4 anybody would take a private jet from state college

Speaker 4 to the Shenandoah Regional Airport back to state college.

Speaker 1 I think it could just be a visit.

Speaker 4 It might just be a visit. Could it be James Tray?

Speaker 1 I think it's just a visit.

Speaker 4 They might be having, they might be, you know what?

Speaker 1 What if he's moving?

Speaker 4 You know what? Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes, that's the airport.

Speaker 4 The Stanton, shenando air the stanton airport is where you would go yeah he's just moving james franklin is using the penn state private jet yeah to move to blacksburgh yeah they save him so much money they're probably

Speaker 1 left that was probably part of the buyout why not yeah that's exactly what it is okay we're good all right also clean up on that my brother was my brother said that who's the real penn state fan in my family said that he loves james franklin for what for how he left and that i was wrong for for even mentioning i like that I like that your brother's giving you, like, hey, you fucked up, you idiot.

Speaker 1 No, he told me. Wrong take.
He was like, that's a bad take. You got to clean that up.
Wrong take. So, this is me cleaning that up.

Speaker 4 I'm so pumped. I'm so pumped.
Of course, that's the other reason why a jet would go there.

Speaker 1 All right, now

Speaker 4 I can continue to live in delusion for a little bit, but I do think that Prob Chessey's going to be the next coach at Penn State. Somewhere else.
Yeah, somewhere else next year.

Speaker 4 But I hope that he doesn't take the job before the season's over. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all I hope. Yeah.
Okay, my firefest. I don't, this is good.
You're back. You're back.

Speaker 1 I don't have one other than I'm just trying desperately to stave off. I feel like I'm like five years in a row getting sick right as Thanksgiving starts.
And I thought I had something on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Just a little, you know, just a little tummy stinger for about 24 hours

Speaker 1 where I just was diarrhea everywhere. But that's fine.
I'm trying to stave it off. I'm going to just, we have a case race, knock on wood.
That'll probably help. Stay a little, sleep a little, baby.

Speaker 1 Get a little extra sleep. But yeah, this has happened to me, I think, pretty much every single year where Thanksgiving week comes and I finally get a break and then I just immediately get sick.

Speaker 4 I had a little tummy stinger yesterday.

Speaker 1 I think it's going round. Titus had a little tummy stinger, too.

Speaker 4 I chalked mine up to having a salad the other night.

Speaker 4 That's a problem. My body was like, what's going on? Where's

Speaker 1 the sleep last week for with tummy stinger?

Speaker 1 No, it was just like I was just full-on sick. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was like one day, slept for 20 hours, Hydrated, sweated it all out.

Speaker 1 Tummy stinger. I didn't eat for a whole day.
It was crazy. That's awesome.
Come on in, Venn. Yeah, but then I ate so much.
I've eaten so much since.

Speaker 1 As soon as I got my, as soon as I, I, it cleared up, I was like, well, now I can eat everything.

Speaker 1 So it's a problem.

Speaker 1 Zach.

Speaker 5 My favorite face this week, Quick One Night.

Speaker 5 I had a misread at my front door the other day.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 5 You guys know when you first wake up in the morning, you're like half asleep, but you're in bed awake, but you're just kind of like head on the pillow in like flow state between all the way up and like half up.

Speaker 1 I had a knock in my front door.

Speaker 5 It's a dangerous place to be. I agree because you could very well go back

Speaker 5 all the way asleep.

Speaker 6 It's happened many times.

Speaker 5 I had like a kind of aggressive knock at my front door in that state laying down either Monday or Tuesday morning. So I got up, like shuffled my feet to the front door, looked through the peephole.

Speaker 5 It's my neighbor. or like a woman who lives on the floor and she looked like visibly like

Speaker 5 kind of angry but I've never had like an interaction with her so I read it as like she must have the wrong the wrong apartment number she has to be upset with someone else and I just went about getting ready for the rest of my morning but now I'm thinking I should have answered the door to see if she was upset with me because now I feel like I kind of left it something up in the air that I don't know about was the bomb alarm going off what do you mean don't you have like a bomb alarm

Speaker 5 Yeah, the bomb alarm could have been going off.

Speaker 1 Wait, wouldn't you have known?

Speaker 5 Yeah, the alarm is going off, I guess.

Speaker 1 yeah so was it maybe waking up you think she could hear that i don't know it's your neighbor it's the bomb she's on the floor she's either right next to me or across next to me there is something to be said for uh like realizing at some point as an adult you don't have to answer the door i do it all the time where like a package or someone's like standing there's like i'm just not i'm just not going to go to the door

Speaker 4 It's kind of nice. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I just like for some reason just assumed she had to have the wrong apartment this early in the morning and just went took shower and came to work and my best guess is bomb alarm.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's probably bomb alarm. Yeah, sounds like bomb alarm.

Speaker 1 So bomb alarm was going off and you were standing at the door

Speaker 1 Maybe okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know like I feel like we might need to upgrade the bomb alarm if you don't remember when it was like that

Speaker 1 weird state of half up half not up.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's dangerous.

Speaker 5 Now I keep thinking like what if like now I don't like the idea of like I could have addressed a situation that I just decided to

Speaker 1 how long could the bomb alarm

Speaker 5 I guess in theory it could go for a while

Speaker 5 so in theory it could have been going for like five minutes but it has the snooze up top so you snooze it like you go like if the bomb goes off and it go and it bombs too early you just hit the little top button and then it'll turn the vibrator and the noise off and then think you get like five minutes to rebomb

Speaker 1 you're rebombing so how many times do you think you snoozed it that morning

Speaker 5 usually it's like two or three snoozes

Speaker 5 But there's no way she could be upset about the rebomb. It only goes for like a

Speaker 1 rebomb.

Speaker 1 How loud is it?

Speaker 6 What time was it at?

Speaker 5 Like between 8 and 8.30 is when the first couple alarms go.

Speaker 1 It's not bad.

Speaker 4 But if it goes off three times.

Speaker 1 The thing that I'm thinking of, maybe

Speaker 1 she like...

Speaker 1 Was she in work-from-home clothes? Oh, I don't have that much. Like, she could have been on a work call or something

Speaker 1 and the bomb alarm keeps going off. Yeah.
I could see how that happened.

Speaker 4 If it goes off a third time, then you're like, I got to go to

Speaker 4 this. Like,

Speaker 1 I'm on an important call right now, and I just keep hearing bombs.

Speaker 4 Or if she has like a sleeping baby,

Speaker 1 also a possibility. Like the bombs.
Could have been a porno situation. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh. I've heard your bomb.
Let me suck your cock. Oh.

Speaker 1 The world's ending. Yeah.
I want to find someone. I want to get me a Zach.
You got to open that door.

Speaker 4 I heard that vibrator going, big boy. So we're coming.

Speaker 1 Is she hot?

Speaker 5 She's probably great. She's probably fully.

Speaker 1 She's probably cool.

Speaker 1 I think you're re-bombing too much. So we're coming to a conclusion I might be a bad neighbor?

Speaker 5 Is that what we're?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 So I should like say, I should apologize next time I see her. No, you ace? But you got to keep bombing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that's me junior at work.

Speaker 5 Now he goes, well, I have to just take those noise complaints if I get a bomb complaint. Right.

Speaker 4 Here's what you do tomorrow. Hit the snooze button three times and re-bomb it a few times and see if she comes over.
If she does again, then you could be like, oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 I didn't know that my bomb was affecting you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, would you like to come in and check out my bomb? Make sure you have the chest tattoo out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't know you went to prison. No prison time.

Speaker 5 So non-prison time.

Speaker 1 Maybe a little bit of prison time. This is a tiny bit.

Speaker 1 No incarceration.

Speaker 1 All right. Good show, boys.
Numbers. 33.

Speaker 1 You notice anything different about

Speaker 1 trying to get it. Let him press it.
33.

Speaker 1 What's different? Oh, there's a.

Speaker 4 What's in there? What's in there, guys?

Speaker 1 Oh, there's a hank toy in there. Little hank.
Well, now

Speaker 1 this doesn't count.

Speaker 1 It's hank on the shelf.

Speaker 5 You never know where he's going to be.

Speaker 4 No, but that's a good point by Big Cat, though. This can't be.
We can't count.

Speaker 1 This can't be an official spin. Why? Because there's

Speaker 4 what happens if it's a foreign body inside the machine.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. Let it go.

Speaker 4 The machine's been hacked.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I mean, this would be very suspect. Yeah.
It's hank. Oh, this has astronomy.

Speaker 4 This has astro.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. That's why Astrid said it.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? That's why I said let it go. I'll take 15.

Speaker 4 That was good.

Speaker 1 82. 21.

Speaker 7 99.

Speaker 1 44.

Speaker 6 86.

Speaker 1 I do like to see little Hank just floating in there.

Speaker 1 He looks awesome. 34.

Speaker 1 Lil Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 15. 15.
Does anyone? Oh, yeah, it was me.

Speaker 4 Oh, it doesn't count, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 Oh, BFT, where'd you go? That's funny.

Speaker 4 I can't get excited about that. I don't care.
I don't care that I got it. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 You're just doing it for fun. Not really.

Speaker 4 I've gotten it a bunch of times.

Speaker 4 You only got it once?

Speaker 1 No, I mean,

Speaker 1 twice.

Speaker 4 I guess that counts, right, memes? I got it twice because I just got... Doesn't.
That doesn't count because the number came up that I said. Hank assisted.
But I said the number, and then it came up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, that counts.

Speaker 1 No. It maybe counts, but I don't.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm not. Who cares? We'll let Lil Hank decide.

Speaker 1 I mean, for everyone else, it doesn't even really matter.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got zero joy out of that. But I did pick the correct number, which is kind of crazy.
That's that easy. Nope.
But I'm this non-short

Speaker 4 about it. We'll hank there.
Who put that in there? Wait, so memes. Zach.

Speaker 1 Memes, if you had gotten that, if you had gotten that, you would have said it was real? We'll never know.

Speaker 1 We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Speaker 4 That was allegations right there.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 1 I'll take that on the chin, yeah.

Speaker 4 Zach, no,

Speaker 4 don't take anything on the chin.

Speaker 1 The look on Zach's face made it seem like

Speaker 1 that was not true. Zach, whose idea was it?

Speaker 5 I just asked what you thought if we we thought he could float.

Speaker 4 I think we were gonna leave him in. Zach, who put it in there? Who actually physically? That was me.
I put it in there. Oh, so it was.

Speaker 1 I was using it. I spent too much time on it.
That was on me. Okay.

Speaker 1 Don't it could float?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's good promo. That's great promo.

Speaker 4 Store at BarcelonaSports.com.

Speaker 5 Like I got it.

Speaker 4 15. That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 Hank on a shelf.

Speaker 1 It's just very funny to just think of Zach and memes, like, you know, at one o'clock today, you should be like, You think Hank could float?

Speaker 1 That's good promo.

Speaker 1 We're trying to sell some merch. Black Friday's coming up.

Speaker 4 That's a very lucky toy.

Speaker 1 Store.partialsports.com.

Speaker 1 Hey, look, Lil Hank. He's right there.
Look, Hank. So it's Lil Hank one.
Little Hank hasn't said one word about Little Hank. Little Hank doesn't like Lil Hank.
No, Big Hank doesn't like Little Hank.

Speaker 1 Big Hank hates Lil Hank.

Speaker 4 Fierce rivalry.

Speaker 1 You got nothing to say? Nothing to say. He's passing.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers. Three.

Speaker 1 33. I like the idea.
34. Passing.
82.

Speaker 1 61.

Speaker 1 I'll go with 50.

Speaker 1 86. 99 pick.

Speaker 4 26.

Speaker 1 26. Memes trying to rig the lottery ball still has no chance of getting it.

Speaker 4 Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy though.
Congrats on the win, PF.

Speaker 1 They're rigging. No, congrats on the win.
No, I didn't win.

Speaker 4 I did pick it, but listen, we can't get excited.

Speaker 1 Little Hank assisted. I assisted.
You need help?

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 on trails.

Speaker 4 Not a win. I've also gotten before memes.
Yeah, I've gotten it.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you remember that memes.

Speaker 4 This doesn't count, clearly doesn't count because the rules were officially stated beforehand. And as per the rules, I acknowledge that.
And

Speaker 4 I didn't get it. You've never gotten it.

Speaker 1 All right, one more.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Plus, like, I'll do it again

Speaker 4 at some point.

Speaker 4 Does this one count?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this one counts. New numbers, three.
Oh, new numbers? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Nah, that's I'll go back to 15.

Speaker 1 That's fucked up.

Speaker 6 I'll do 22. Seven.

Speaker 1 So I can't do 82. New numbers.

Speaker 1 77.

Speaker 7 81.

Speaker 7 43.

Speaker 1 48.

Speaker 7 11. Poke.

Speaker 1 You said 48? Yeah. I love 48.

Speaker 1 51. Pretty close, man.

Speaker 1 Closest you ever gotten.

Speaker 1 That's also close. I was thinking about picking 52.

Speaker 4 Same numbers as what I just picked. You were thinking about thinking pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 He's a linebacker for the 49ers, Patrick.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 So you're even in your

Speaker 1 thinking about numbers, you don't get it. Yeah.
Who's the linebacker on the 49ers?

Speaker 1 No, don't.

Speaker 4 Patrick. He's going to try to.

Speaker 4 Willis?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Willis dick figure mouth.
Oh,

Speaker 1 you got me.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 Good one, memes. That's all you got.
That's all I needed.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. Wins a win.
Good one.

Speaker 4 Love you guys. That was a good one.