CFB With Brandon Walker, CFP Rankings, Patriots Crush The Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Listener FAQ's

2h 23m

The CFP rankings are out and James Madison is finally ranked in the Top 25. We talk about the dumb committee rankings (00:00:00-00:16:32) and then talk MNF with the Patriots killing the Giants (00:16:32-00:34:52). More coaching carousel and Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Steelers in a bad bad place and Lebron stat padding plus we try to figure out F1 for the thousandth time (00:34:52-01:13:51). Brandon Walker joins the show to talk rivalry week, Lane Kiffin out of his state, his predictions for this year, why he's obsessed with Oklahoma and who could win the National Championship (01:13:51-02:07:29). We finish the show with listener FAQ's (02:07:29-02:21:54).


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Today is Wednesday, December 3rd, and PFT, James Madison University, is ranked in the top 25. Congratulations.
Thank you.

Thank you. Got a little number next to our name.
And listen, first of all, I just want to make this clear from the start.

There have been a lot of people that are like, PFT, you understand that JMU would get boat raced by any of the at-large teams. I just want to make it clear that I'm not going to address that.

I'm only focused on the opportunity in front of me, which is getting into the playoff.

It is absurd that we found ourselves in a situation because of the design of the playoff at-large, that you could have two group of five teams that get in to college football's championship crowning tournament and you have teams like Notre Dame that could be left out.

Does that mean that JMU is better than Notre Dame? I have no choice but to say yes, it does mean that because we would be in, Notre Dame would be out.

But yeah, it's an absurd situation that we found ourselves in given what happened with the ACC.

I think if they had to do it all over again, they would probably make it the four top-ranked conference champions that would get the automatic bid.

I feel like that would probably be a more fair way if you're really trying to get the best 12 teams into the mix. But what the committee did today, having

UNT ranked 24,

as I suspected, if UNT beat Tulane, I think that they would obviously be ahead of JMU to make it in.

I even thought that if UNT was not ranked, I thought that if they beat Tulane, that would be enough. They jumped JMU.
That's not really surprising to me. Whoever wins the American is going to get in.

JMU, the Brotherhood with Duke. If Duke wins, I don't see a world where they put Duke in.

I think they put JMU at 25 to signal that if JMU beats Troy, handles business in Harrisonburg, that JMU will be ranked above Duke if they win the ACC championship. But UVA obviously gets in

if they beat Duke. So

we got a long ways to go, but

it's a lot of chaos. It's just kind of cool to think about a world when JMU could be in the 12-team tournament.

I actually, so, you know, who's been texting me recently, Joey Harrington, getting the trash talk started, looking ahead to that JMU-Oregon potential matchup.

I think Oregon would be favored by like 18 points. But if we covered, that's my national championship right there.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

So I've seen the take thrown around because obviously people are mad about the potential of James Madison and a North Texas Circle Lane being in that we shouldn't let two automatic qualifiers.

Yeah, okay. Well then either make it 16, which I think is probably too many because we're going to talk about this with Brandon.
But this is last year we didn't have enough good teams.

This year we we have too many good teams.

So either make it 16 or if you want to, just make a different playoff for everyone who's not in the power four, which would suck, but that's the only solution because

you can't have a sport where it is just impossible for half of the teams to not be in the tournament.

You're just saying that it's going to be Big Ten in SEC, and that's going to ruin the sport even further. So it's chaos right now.

We knew it was going to be chaotic and weird for the first couple of years of this.

I think it eventually will get to 16, and then people will stop bitching as much because you're getting closer and closer to where the natural rankings are of a JMU in a two-lane.

But the big thing that came out tonight was that

we thought maybe there was a chance that Notre Dame and Miami, because they did play in August, there would be the committee trying to creep Miami up a little bit more. That did not happen.

Notre Dame did drop a spot for Alabama beating Auburn, but it's essentially set that the only thing that could keep Notre Dame out is if BYU beats Texas Tech.

If BYU beats Texas Tech, then they'll have to let BYU be in, and I would assume the Texas Tech wouldn't fall past Notre Dame. Other than that, there can't be a lot of movement left.

I guess they could maybe bounce Alabama with three losses if they lose to Georgia, but that would also be very chaotic because Alabama beat Georgia earlier in the year.

So you could say, well, they're one and one against each other.

But other than that, like, I didn't see a whole lot of stuff. The Ole Miss thing, they didn't penalize Ole Miss for losing Lane Kiffen.

In fact, they actually went up a spot and Texas A ⁇ M fell all the way to seven. So, yeah, I think it's pretty straightforward what we have coming up on Championship Saturday.

The thing that the committee does not want to happen is for Texas Tech to lose to BYU. and Alabama to lose to Georgia because then they have some hard decisions to make.

Yeah, I think if BYU BYU beats Texas Tech, what's going to happen is they're going to put Miami in.

They put Miami and Notre Dame so close.

Wait, so who would go out?

So, wait, so if BYU loses, then it would... They're out.

They're already out right now. Right, right.
But if BYU loses, then I think they would have Miami and Notre Dame ranked consecutively, right? But that's still Miami out.

But no, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that if they're ranked like right next to each other, I think the committee looks at that and they ultimately say, well, Miami and Notre Dame did play

and then Miami's in. I don't know.
So you're saying Miami would jump Notre Dame with both of them not playing?

It's as simple as this. It's as simple as their names being written directly next to each other, one number apart, and then one team beat the other team.
I think that's what the committee would do.

But

they also necessarily, they wouldn't have to do that if Bama loses because then they could just have Notre Dame at the nine, Bama at the 10, Miami at the 11. I guess they could do that.

And what this has really taught us,

it's made dudes do math. We don't know that we're doing math, but we're learning about the transitive property.

If like you grew up learning about the transitive property, but you had like a strong identification with one number and you grew up wearing that one number on all your hats and jackets as a kid, and you love that number.

And then now you have a reason to fight for that number and explain why that number is actually superior to the others. Yeah.
Hank, just had three. Good call, Hank.

The other thing that happened, I think we all knew it was going to happen, but Texas and Vanderbilt are just out. Like, we can stop.
We can stop with that.

It stinks because, you know, they are both two lost teams.

And I do understand

the one thing that I will agree with, and

I think you have to include

the automatic qualifiers because, again, you can't just eliminate half of the sport. You can't just be like half the sport has no chance of getting in.

But if you said to me right now, does James Madison, Tulane, or North Texas have a chance of winning at all? I'd say no.

Does Texas or Vanderbilt? I'd say maybe.

I don't know. Like, they played some of these teams.
They beat some of these teams. And so, yeah, like Texas beat Oklahoma, who's very much in.
You know, Vandi went and who did Vandi beat?

They didn't beat anyone who's in right now, but they obviously beat some top 25 teams throughout the course of the season. So, yeah, like they have played those type of games.

Yeah, it's all a mess. It's all stupid.
It's all not perfect.

We're deciding the champion of a sport not based on who the best 12 teams are at that sport. Yeah.
Which is kind of a fucked up way to do it.

But if that's the pool that I'm going to be swimming in, you better believe i'm going to be going for the world record yeah right like i i to me i'm just dealing i'm playing the hand that i was dealt here and if you're getting you're saying there's a chance for jmu to get in i am going to absolutely do everything that i can to refuse

all that but you have to you have to be realistic about it and there's no chance that a team that that plays in the sun belt would ever be considered to be one of the top 12 teams in the entire country yeah and and listen the the other thing that you have to, that this committee will continue to do that makes no sense, that is like, you know, antithetical to

sport and what we watch is that they still do the bias of what your preseason rank was.

Because if you just look at Oregon and Ole Miss, Oregon has not beaten the team that's in the playoffs right now. Ole Miss has.
They both have one loss. One, you know, Ole Miss lost to Georgia.

Oregon lost to Indiana. Those are two top four teams, but Oregon, but Ole Miss has a better win.
So it's like, but why is Ole Miss behind Oregon? Because Oregon was ranked higher to start the season.

That's just how it works. It's crazy.
In fact, I would like to speak on behalf of the Sun Belt Conference and just to the American Conference.

I think the winner of those two conferences should play a play-in game together. Yeah, that'd be cool.
I'd be okay with a play-in game. More football.
That'd be fun. That'd be fun.

Okay, so last thing I had before we get to ourselves talking Monday night football, I did want to give a shout out to

one of the best tweets. This might actually have to be in the takesies.
One of the best tweets of the year was from Seth Rohrabau

on

November 30th. So what was November 30th? Was that Sunday? That was Sunday.
Sunday night. He said, Mike Tomlin will say something like, we can't eat soup with forks.
We need spoons.

Then the Steelers will sign a 2018 Pro Bowler to the practice squad. The Steelers did sign Adam Thielen today, who was a 2018 Pro Bowler.
That might be the tweet of the year.

Mike Tomlin has gotten, and we're going to talk more Steelers in a minute, but Mike Tomman has gotten to the point where you can just perfectly troll him and predict everything he does.

And this came on the day that Aaron Rodgers turned 42. Happy birthday, Aaron Rodgers.
I did send him a happy birthday message. He did not respond.
Did not expect a response from him.

But this is where the Steelers are at.

He got a new phone, right? He he got a new phone yeah right right he uh this is it the steelers are in a spot where like yeah adam thielen let's get him

yeah

he's beyond parody you're never you're never really satirizing mike tomlin you're just early right right and the steelers are just become a retirement home for for players it's crazy it's absolutely insane respect to to the good people of pittsburgh for booing renegade i'd be i'd be upset too yeah they have every right to okay oh yeah one more thing Max, I had this idea right when we left the office.

Because after we left the office earlier, we taped this a little bit out of order.

Kalani Satake had not signed the extension, not agreed with BYU. It looked like it was trending in that direction.

But since it's official, he's going back. Penn State still looking for a head coach.
Max, what do you think about this?

What do you think about Penn State taking one for the team for the city of Philadelphia and hiring Kevin Petullo?

I saw that tweet.

Oh, that was

someone else's idea to just get Petulo? No, that was PFT. It was PFT tweeted it.
Yeah. I saw him tweet it.
I was thinking for Max. I was like, this could solve a problem for you, Max, because you just

get rid of the guy that's ruining your season right now. And then, yeah, maybe you just punt on one season for Penn State.
Fun fact, Max. I think I would rather

turn down a better deal

last week that ended up being true, but he didn't shake on the deal. So he fucked up because I tried to make him a deal.
Bears get a statement when Eagles fire Kevin Petullo. He wouldn't take that.

I don't know. And then the Bears did get a statement when, and they didn't fire Kevin Petullo.
So if he had shook on that deal, he would have had that.

I don't think you can hire an offensive, a brand new offensive coordinator with like four weeks to go in the season. Why not?

When has that ever worked out?

I don't know. Chip Kelly's out there.
Yeah, why not? No, why not, Max? Think outside the box. We're solutions, guys, not problems, guys.

Sirion has already said there will be drastic changes this week to the offense.

So you're saying that Chip Kelly coming in the door,

you would rather have Kevin Petullo than that? Yes. How the fuck are you supposed to implement an entire new offense in three days? Just tell him to fucking run and get open.
You just have to

tweak what you're already doing. You can't have a brand new guy in three days unless it's someone already inside the building.
Technically, you're a Kevin Petulo guy.

Also, technically, it's like five days you play Monday Night Football. Good point.
Yeah, so that's two extra days. What? You guys hit the trend.

Just get it going. Yeah.
First to do it.

Are you saying Jalen Hurts is dumb?

What? Thank you.

I still think Zach. Jalen Hurts has learned a new offense

every single year of his career. There you go.
Then just he's plenty of the future.

Okay, Max, you know what? I was trying to do a good thing for the city of Philadelphia for you. Pencils.
What's wrong, memes? Memes has his hand up. What's wrong, memes?

All right. So in 2012, the Ravens fired their offensive coordinator after starting 9-4.
And then they went on. Oh,

damn. Wow.

When has that ever worked? How about a Soupie?

13 years. Yeah, it happened one time in the past 25 years.

I mean,

one-for-one soupy. You keep having fun with Petulo then.

It's not one-for-one Soupy because offensive coordinators do get fired a lot in the middle of the season. They do.

I mean, the Bears fired Shane Waldron last year

and everyone else. Yeah, that's what, but you weren't trying to win it.
Like, you weren't going to win it either. Yeah, but look.

Yeah,

but look where we are now.

But you could just fire him in the offseason.

I thought you were trying to win a steamboat this year. I'm done with getting head starts.
I'm done with getting head starts. All right.
Head starts for nothing.

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Terms at pick six.draftkings.com slash promos. Okay, Hank, you're going in the bye week at 11 and 2.

That's pretty crazy. Insane.
Insane. I thought we were going to be the best team on this podcast.
I didn't think we were going to be this good. Yeah.

But then you thought that maybe you wouldn't be the best team on this podcast. Yeah.
Yeah. You said

you nailed on that after week one.

You were like, nah, it's not going to happen. We're 11 and 2 and it feels great.
Yeah, it's the patient. That's all that matters.
I mean, they looked, I mean, the Giants stink, but it doesn't matter.

They made them look like they stink, which is what a good team should do. Yeah.
And Drake. They look good.
Jersey's unreal. You love the Red Coats.
You're

love the Redcoats.

And now you have a bye, and then Bills and Ravens are your two biggest games, you know, on the rest of the schedule. And there's a chance the Bills could be a t-shirt and hat game.

Interesting. At home.
So if the Bills lose this week, it could be a t-shirt and hat game. Wow.

Wow. I thought the Patriots looked unbeatable last night.
Like a legitimately great team. That punt return was so sick.
The punt return was incredible. All three phases.

Did you see Vrabel's vest that he was wearing earlier this week? I think he was wearing it maybe

the one that said no naps on it. How do you feel about that?

If Vrabel says no naps, I'm no naps. Oh, that's just

true. That's kind of a game.
You have to nap. That's not a nap.
God, I'm not a green guy, though. If Vrabel's saying no naps, no naps.

You're done napping? Yeah, I mean, I got to make sure that is the correct. No nap December? Maybe it was like, it could have means something else.
I don't know. It means stay woke.

But if it's no naps, it's no naps. Okay, yeah.
I have no choice. I mean, Vrabel's obviously a great coach.
We love Rabel. He was, maybe it's like him and Ben Johnson.

You guys made great hires when it comes to coaches this offseason. That's very funny shirt.
I hadn't seen it. The no naps.
Yeah. And

it seemed like one team was excited, ready to play football. The other team, not so much.
Yeah, it was, I mean, he lost to the Giants.

It was definitely, I kind of realized that when they were showing all of the Eli Manning stuff, I was like, this is a revenge game for Ray Bo. Like, he hates, hates the Giants.
Yeah.

And the Giants, I mean, the Giants, I think the Giants hate the Giants.

The game started. I feel like for the first quarter, the Giants' offensive line was fighting more after the whistle than during the game.

And because Jackson Dark got blown up, but it was even before that. We had Young Wei Ku with still I don't understand,

that looked like me in the T-Box. I'm going to

defend Young Wei Ku. How? All right.
Well, first of all, of course he dug his foot on the ground. His name is not Young Housewife.
That's what hoes do.

Second of all, his explanation after the game actually made sense. When I watched it, like everybody else, I was like, that's the worst kick I've ever seen.
The Yips. Yeah, like the Yips.

I thought he had the Yips where it's like, you can't come back from that. He's just broken mentally.

Like, Giants kickers have had the weirdest history of physical ailments. Now it's moved its way upstairs into the brainstem.
But when I heard his explanation after the game, I watched it again.

It looked terrible. And

it was terrible. His terrible was after the ball was snapped, the holder, Gilliam, he caught it, and then the ball started to fall a little bit.
And so at the last second, Young Wei pulled up.

And that's him pulling up on the kick because he thought it was going to fall down.

If he was actually trying to kick the football, even if you hit the ground like that, your foot's going all all the way through. You're going to follow through at the end.

It's not getting stopped when you hit the ground.

Like, for example, Hank, if you're hitting a lob wedge, right, and you're 20 yards off the green, and you hit it really fat, you're not swinging that hard.

So it's going to get caught up in the ground and your club's not going to go anywhere, right? But if you're actually making an attempt, even if you hit the ground, it's going to bounce off the ground.

It's going to go forward. He was trying to pull up on the check swing.
It was a check swing, and it ended up looking like the biggest disaster of a field goal attempt.

They asked him about it after the game, and he said, yeah, that's actually happened one other time to me. So this is like the second time that he's had this disaster of a kick.

But it was, yeah, it was a terrible-looking attempt. I'll give him that.
Yeah, I'm going to say I don't care about his explanation.

That was just the dumbest play ever. Like, there's no way that's not carrying over.
Yeah, it was just a little bit more.

There's no way that's not going to, like, there's no way that's going to get in his head going forward. Yeah.

Even if he was like, yeah, I was trying to do that. There's no way that he's not going to maybe probably have the Yips for at least a week.
Well, yeah, he wasn't trying to do that.

And again, it's a disaster of an attempt. He just thought the ball, it's more of an insult to his holder, being like, I thought he was going to drop it.
Yeah.

And then just letting him get blown up on that. But yeah, the Giants, when Jackson Dart ran out of bounds

and then his team came to his defense, Jackson Dart was in bounds running, trying to get a first down.

The guy has to learn how to not die because he just like that's that's actually all the Giants should be focused on in the last five weeks of the season because they're not good.

Their fans are very upset that Joe Shane has not been fired, rightfully so. Just don't get Jackson Dart hurt because he doesn't know how to keep himself healthy.
Yeah, he doesn't.

And his explanation was like, yeah, that's how you ever watch me play football. That's how I play.
You don't have to be a fucking idiot. On a two-win team.
On a two-win team.

Like, yeah, and he was going for the first down. He was inbounds and he got lit up.

If I was a defensive player in the NFL and I see the Giants on my schedule, I'm like, I'm going to get to finally get, I'm going to to get to crush a quarterback this week. And he's not Mahomes.

Like Mahomes probably gets that call. And he also gets out of bounds.

It's the thing where he gets out of bounds. Yes.
That was at the last second. That was not a penalty at all.
No, I know, but I'm saying it was so violent that, like, yeah, no, you're right.

Mahomes gets it just pure what just happened. But it's Jackson Dart.
Like, that's where it's like, he's not playing high school football. He just can't.

You can't get injured. You have to have a full offseason.

I think Jackson Dart is a good quarterback. Like, I think that's the one saving grace for this Giants team in another terrible season.
You think you have a guy, you have to keep him healthy.

Also, you had Abdul Carter.

He now has more soft benchings than he does sacks on the season. So he didn't play the first two series.
That's the second time this year that he has been benched to start a game.

He has one and a half sacks. Mike Kafka afterwards just said he just didn't give an explanation.
He just kept on saying, I talked to him. I talked to him.
They're like, did he miss a meeting?

I know there was a fake report going around that was very funny that he unplugged his headphones in a meeting and porn was playing. That was not real, but also very well done.

Apparently, it has something to do with tardiness. Yeah, he's just late.
He's got a late problem.

I don't know if he was in the training room again, and that was another miscommunication, or if that was just a bullshit thing that they said the first time.

But I also feel like it's a bad sign if your interim head coach is becoming a disciplinary. Yeah.

That's not great vibes for the team.

Hank, I have a stat, not an insult stat, a real stat that you'll enjoy about. Do you have any bookmarks? You're in the same Patriots.
I have some bookmarks. I mean,

would Drake May have 300 yards? Drake May did not have 300 yards. It's funny that it's becoming a story that people are asking Drake May about it now.

Listen, I'm just trying to find something to nitpick about Drake May and his amazing season. Who gives a fuck if he throws for 300 yards? He's throwing for like 280 every week.
You got it.

No, you can't believe it. You got it.
Don't give up. Don't watch.
Don't give up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Max, Max, let me finish. Stay strong.
Let me finish.

You got to keep saying he sucks. But I'll be goddamned if I'm going to stop talking.

There we go.

There's an elite club, and all the players know about it. The 300 club.
The 300-yard club. Yeah.

There's a giant mural that they have in

Park Avenue in the NFL headquarters, and it's the movie poster from 300 with all the players that have gotten 300 with their shirts off with six-pack abs, and Drake May is not on it.

And it's kind of interesting that he's not on it. It's because you're leading the game so much.
What happens when you're going in the fourth quarter and you're up 20?

They were still passing in the fourth quarter. Yeah, but

they were trying to get him 300. Yeah, they were.

They were trying to get him 300. It's honestly, it's in Josh McDaniel's head.
Yeah. He's like, I got to get this guy 300.
100% not. What's your stat? Let's hear this.

He's definitely thought about it at least once. No.
Yeah, I mean, once. Why would you think about it? Your team's 11-2.
Your quarterbacks are not.

It may not affect his play calling, but he's definitely thought about it. He's getting asked about it after the game.

Someone has said something. 100%.
He might listen to this podcast. Big cat.
Lisa Salter

asked her about it after the game. She said, you haven't thrown for 300 yards yet.
What's up with that?

Like, he knows.

They talked about it on Patreon. Born out of a PFD Hank troll.
Yeah.

He's not in the 300 club. Mookie Betts is in the 300 club.
That's true. That's true.
That guy on 9-11. Yeah.

Osama. The other guy.
Yeah. The guy at the bowling hour.
Yeah. But no, a real good stat for the Patriots.

They're the first team in NFL history with 10 straight games where they score 23 points and allowing 23 or fewer points in a single season. They're dominating.
It's pretty impressive.

Now, could Drake May be this good if his defense wasn't so great? We don't know the answer to that question. Yeah, it's a team game.
But it's a question that you have to ask.

Sure, I guess. Yeah.
He had to ask it. I think he would be better.
Statistically, he'd be better if his defense was worse and he had the ball more and was playing from behind.

He would have better stats.

That's not necessarily

because they're still throwing the ball in the fourth quarter. And he also might feel more pressure like, oh, shit, I gotta score on every possession.
Also, what team was he on last year?

Great question, Max.

True.

Checkmate. Got him.

So really, I mean, yeah, I guess. He's just asking the question.
Pretty good game. That's a fair question.
From Drake, what are your bookmarks? I don't, listen, I wasn't, I didn't.

You said we sat down before we started recording.

How do you get to your bookmarks? I never said, uh-oh, Hank's been bookmarking? No, I was just, I was, I don't bookmark.

I bookmarked a couple things, but it's not, I was not planning on bringing him up unless it was, it got ugly and it has not got ugly. That was a good stat.

That was a good stat. You want to get ugly? Yeah, get ugly.
Get ugly with me.

I respond. I'm not.

Get ugly with him. I fight back.
Go with your father. I'm all love, all positive vibes.
No naps. No naps.
No naps. Good vibes, all love.
Hank. All of you guys.
I mean, they're calling him.

Well, there's two things about his nickname. He's got two nicknames.
One, the schedule. I prefer that one.
The second, Drake, Drake May, May.

They stole that from me.

Okay.

That was my nickname for John Beck when he was the quarterback of the Washington Redskins. Who the fuck is John Beck?

John Beck. He's just in 1942.
He's John, John Beck, Beck.

Were you like writing this in like your school notebook? No, this was John Beck, baby. John Beck.
Who is John Beck? John Beck was a quarterback. He was.

He was like, he was like, I think Kyle Shanahan might have stood on the name of the early 2000s. I think the worst part about John Beck is I searched his name and another guy popped up.

A different guy. Yeah, no, that's great.
I mean, that is John Beck. You're right to forget John Beck.
I only remember him because you have to search John Beck football to get to John Beck.

Yeah, but you get to him. Because I would call him John Beck Beck.

So they call him Drake

Drake May. They call him Drake Drake May May.
Shout out Drake May lover.

He played nine career games. Yep.
Love that. Yep.

He was great.

I don't understand the Drake. Drake.
There's, I mean, guy's a legend.

Because he doesn't have any other nicknames.

He's an Instagram account, Drake May Lover, and he just, he's everywhere. He comments everywhere on all types of pop culture, whatever posts, and he just writes Drake May.

That's it. Sounds like a bot.
It's not a bot. It's a good guy.
Is it you? No. What are your bookmarks? Guys, dedicated.
Reveal your bookmarks. I only had one bookmark.
It was just a Drake May stat.

Again, it was only if things got ugly. I was not planning on bringing this up.

Each of his last 10 starts, Drake May has passed for 200-plus yards, rushed for positive yardage, thrown no more than one interception, averaged eight yards per pass attempt to win the game.

No quarterback in NFL history has done that in more than five consecutive starts. He's done it in.
That's pretty damn good.

That's pretty damn good. Rush for positive yardage.

That deep ball is nasty. Every game.
Yeah, yeah. No, listen, Drake May, he's having an awesome season.
He's so accurate on his deep balls, too. It's kind of crazy.
Just great pocket presence, too.

Yep. Steps up, rushes when he needs to, hits his targets.
It's just beautiful to see. Did you know that when he has a child, he's going to name it Fox after Foxborough, Massachusetts? He said that?

He did, according to my preferred breaking news source, which is New England Gridiron Pulse, U.S.

Fox May?

It's a Facebook account that's run by somebody in Vietnam that just makes up stories. Ah, got it.
Yeah.

How many dudes do you think in the last month since they started revealing that you can look at locations for Twitter, how many dudes realize that they've just been jerking off to pictures of

accounts run by Indian dudes? A lot.

Yeah, I want to check those bookmarks out. Oh, shit.

This is actually my second favorite post by them recently. They just claimed that Justin Jefferson has expressed a desire to be traded to the Patriots.

I need a playing environment that truly demands and respects those who crave victory. Therefore, I only want to play for the Patriots.

Justin Jefferson said that, according to this Vietnamese New England Patriots Facebook page, would love that. It's a great Facebook page.
Okay, should we do hot seat cool throne? Or

I have a question for you, Max.

Who the hell is Penn State going to hire as their head coach?

I don't know.

I hate our coworker, Bluntman. Why?

He's told me 99.9% chance of one thing like three times. Oh, no, he can't do that.
He's getting in the breaking news day.

I saw last night that Kalani Satake had a handshake agreement with Penn State, and then the crumble cookie guy came in. He is.
He said that he had to insert himself into this.

He's like, we can't lose great people. This is why

I love this sport. I love America.
We have, you know, competing. On one hand, you had Ole Miss lose their coach because our guy, Todd Graves, chicken finger mogul,

got, you know, probably wrote a big check. And now you have at BYU, the crumble cookie guy.
He's like, here's my, that's my music. I got to get in here.
This is what he said.

Some people are not replaceable. Sounds like it is time for me to get off the sidelines and get to work.
It's great. Like,

this is exactly what college football should be. Yeah, so when it comes to the Penn State coaching search, I do have, I've got an update on their jet.

Their jet had a flight that was scheduled to Columbus, Ohio from college, from state college. Brian Hartline? Brian Hartline.
That flight got changed.

It got diverted because too many people were talking about it. Now they've got a flight to Lexington, Kentucky.
Oh. Mark Stoops.
Oh, my God. That's it.
To Penn State. First higher of all time.

Mark Stoops to Penn State. That's not going to happen.
That's not going to happen. However, I did some more digging.
You know who else lives in Lexington?

It's Brian Hartline's brother, who's on that coaching staff.

So they're going to give. So Brian Hartline's brother to Penn State.
Brian Hartline's brother might be getting picked up as a stop by that jet.

So they would both of them to Penn State? Both of them to Penn State.

I'm saying Hartline may be not out of it. Satake's a great coach.
Yeah. I don't know anything about nothing, but I would like them to have some coach.
Also, has anyone ever extended?

Yeah, I would like them to have some coach.

Have they ever extended it? It happens all the time. So we just do one more year of interim? I mean, that's how Coach O became the coach of LSU, Sharon Moore.

That's how Pete Golding is the coach of Ole Miss. I mean, I guess he was kind of made permanent right away.

But yeah, that can absolutely happen. You can play your way into it.

No, I'm saying, like, but keep, I want him to keep the interim. Oh, you want to keep him interim for the entire year? Yeah.
Oh, I don't think that's ever happened, but I like that. Yeah.

Because you like that. Are you expecting the next, like, next year's coaching availability is going to be better than this season's?

It can't be worse.

Every school had an opening this year. Yeah.
Yeah, it is true. A lot of very good openings.
James Madison. Yeah, Bob Chesney going to UCLA.
Good for him. Yeah.
Good for him.

He got paid like $8 million, and now the sales pitch is pretty clear for JMU. It's like, do you want to work for two years and then 10x your salary and get future earnings?

And get one of the highest-paying jobs in the entire country. That's a

pretty good sales pitch. The guy that I, I mean, I would like our offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator if they don't go to UCLA.

But the guy from Navy, Chronic, I want Chronic in Harrisonburg. I know that he played receiver there a while ago.

I don't know if he's interested in leaving Navy, but I'm just sure that there's it's an attractive opening. Yeah.

It sucks being a stepping stone, but I live in reality, and I want to be the best stepping stone there is.

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Wait, did you know how to pronounce the word ski? No, I did.

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My hot seat is Lando Norris. Okay, wow.
Do you remember F1?

F1, yeah. Do you guys remember? Yeah, do you remember F1?

I stopped watching probably two years ago.

I was locked in the first three seasons of the Drive to Survive. And then at one point, I was following the season kind of week by week.
I just watching the races never really did it for me.

But, you know, I still got, I still,

I still follow some accounts. And this season, it's been down to the wire.
Once Danny Ricardo got out, I lost interest.

This is an all-time, all-time season. I lost interest after I finished the first

iteration of whatever it was, Drive to Survive. First two or three seasons were good.
It's just watching the races. Racing, car racing is just never, never kind of like soccer.

It's just never clicked for me. I suspect that the same people that pushed F1 on America are the same.
I mean, it's huge.

It is massive. Like, every Instagram post is like millions and millions.

It's like soccer, where it's like,

you know, globally massive. It's international, but I feel like it was pushed on us by people that ran a bunch of media companies that saw F1 being like the next big thing.

It's like we were complicit. It's like, well, I bowed out after about a week.
Yeah, but I actually enjoyed doing, I enjoyed doing the interviews. The interviews are fun.
Yeah.

Interviewing race car drivers is kind of fun. You know, when we do an entire year of podcasts, like doing a couple is fun, but I just, I couldn't watch.
This is just a good sports story. Yeah, okay.

Give it to us. Lando Norris.
By the way, can I interrupt you for a sec?

What's the Denny Hamlin thing? Why are they in court? Couldn't tell you.

Zach, search it right now. Find it.
I saw Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin are in court.

Against each other? No. They're on the other side.
I thought they were friends, yeah. Yeah.
But I don't know why they're in court. I need someone to explain that to me.
Go ahead, Hank.

Lando Norris had a massive, massive lead. He was up 100 points at one point in the season.
Versapin was basically, he was like the Chiefs. He was more or less eliminated.

He's had an all-time comeback.

Finished first this week. Lando Norris had a chance to, like, if he finished ahead of Versapin, he would have clinched the the title with one race to go.

Finished third, Versapin finished first, has made a crazy comeback. He's 12 points back with one race to go, which basically is.

I might watch. Yeah.
When is this? Probably Sunday morning, I think. Where?

I don't know. Push, push.
Abu Dhabi. I think it was, it was just in Abu Dhabi.
So it's got to be somewhere also out there.

I'm. I'm in.

It's, it's, it's the old. It's literally like, you know, the one person you don't want want behind you.
Yeah, I'm a dabby. Oh, it is an Abadabi.

I'm a fucking.

I'm a racehead. Yeah,

the part of the reason why I stopped watching is that every single race was just for stapping one. And he dominated seasons where it's like he won wire to wire.
Yeah, right.

This season, he had a worse car, which that part I never understand. It's like he, McLaren has the best car.

He does not have a good car. He had a really, really bad start to the year.
And he basically was in a spot where he has to like win out. And he somehow has and has a chance to finish it off this day.

Why did he start driving a worse car? Because they do.

From what I understand is every

three years, they let you basically reconfigure your car. And whoever like nails it, they have that car for a while.
So like you get like one shot. Is that right, memes?

You get like one chance to perfect your car. And if it's perfect, you can't make like in-season drastic changes to your car.
I think so.

And then they also make like certain things illegal that you can't do on certain cars. I think that affected, was it McLaren? And

they do all the testing, but then you could get into the season and be like, fuck,

we have a quarterback and wide receiver that just hate each other and we can't complete a pass.

Yeah, it was explained to us by

the coach. Yeah.

He got fired. Yeah.

Yeah.

He was just fighting the regulations.

They're always trying to get an edge. So, so wait, what has to happen in Abu Dhabi for the crazy result?

Probably Verstappen has to finish first, and Lando Norris has to finish outside the points, I believe.

I don't know the points. Well, I think we're working our way through this.

Can't Max Verstappen's teammates just like fuck up Lando Norris? Well, he has one. Can't he just be like, I'm not, you shall not pass Lando? He could.
That's what I would do.

He could. Oh, so no, he could finish first, and

Lando has has to finish third or higher. Yeah.
Wow. Wow.

So if Lando finishes second, though. He's fine.
Yeah. And he's fine.
If he finishes third, he's fine. Oh.
Wait, he says it's third or higher. No, yeah, he could finish third or higher.

I thought he meant like. No, no, no.
Third or higher. He's down 12 points and

he can't. Yeah.
So if he finishes third, he's fine. It'd be very funny if...

That's all-time sports pressure. That's great sports pressure, Hank.
I liked it. I'm going to not tune in, but I'm going to.

You're going to follow the result. I'm going to.
You're going to check on Sunday. Someone tweet me on Sunday morning and remind me that it's happening, and that I might turn on the TV for a second.

If there was like a red zone for racing where it's just like the last lap, let me know when the last lap is happening. I'll tune in at the end.
But yeah, it seems like...

Can you imagine if F1 had a college football playoff style committee that after the season was over, they just arbitrarily said what cars were the fastest? That'd be cool. And who got to advance?

I mean, we talk about boot. They got like Russian oligarchs they got they got boosters on steroids

oh yeah people would be dying yeah Zach have you what are you gonna say Max

memes has such a clip brain he found the clip of the coach talking about this oh let's see memes so this is uh on part of this part of my take playing pardon my take

this is an exclusive report from pardon my take on an interview we've done that we none of us could remember except for memes because he had absolute clip brain i love this When we break news to ourselves that we already broke news.

Which coach was this? This was

the Red Bull guy, Christian Horner. Oh, yeah, yeah.
She's in Horner, yeah. Married to Spice Girl.
Jerry Halwell. Yes.
He got fired. Oh, I look fat.

Oh, that was.

That was the Tits interview. Those shirts are not good for me.
I found that out after a couple interviews. Canon.
I was just fucking stuffed into that shirt. Probably not great chairs either.
No.

Okay. Point during the the building of the car.
You're like, this is, we have something that no one else is going to have going forward. Well, that's the thing.
You just don't know. Really?

And, you know, last year was a big reset, new regulations. We turn up at the first test.
Everybody's car looks a bit different. And then Mercedes looked very different.

And you think, have we missed something dramatic here? And then, of course, 22 was an incredible year for us. And then we've just taken all those learnings and applied it into this car.

And, you know, the car was a little bit heavy last year. We got the car on the weight limit and that kind of stuff, and just evolved the theme.
And we've been surprised

that the others haven't been closer to us so far, but you know, feel that that will come later in the year.

Okay, so yeah, by the way, I remember when they rolled out the wild car. I remember that interview because it's similar to the Harbaugh.
That was right before my daughter was born, so sympathy, wait.

I get a pass. That was in a Harbaugh interview when my son was born, my first

all-time bad. Remember when we were at the

weight part, yeah. When you get sympathy,

you weren't pregnant. No, I know, but you get sympathy weight because you just like everyone kind of just gets weight.
That's how it works. Sympathy weight.

How much weight, how much like per pregnancy? It's 20 to 30. You ever heard the term dad bod? Yeah, you get sympathy weight.
That's it. You start eating.
That's what it means.

Everyone in the house is eating. You're eating for two.
Yeah, I was eating for

three.

The whole family had to make sure I was strong.

But yeah, no, there's, I mean, there's, there's heavy fluctuation. Okay, so where are we at? I don't.
Danny Hammond. I got to be honest.

Don't really care who wins the F1 race unless something crazy happens, in which case I'll think about it for like 30 seconds. I'll be like, damn, that was crazy.
Yeah, that was

a good one.

Do you want the guy that's dominated and already won like five times to win again? I want Lando. Or do you want Lando to, you know, I didn't like Verstaffe.

Hank, could you ever see yourself rooting for a franchise that just dominated and won all the time?

And then when there was an upstart, plucky team that was going against them, you would find yourself rooting against the underdog?

It's case by case because I don't like it when they go wire to wire, but I do like a story where it's like, you know, everyone counted him out and he's come all the way back.

Like, that's great sports. That's big dog shit.
Great sports.

Zach, why is Denny Hamlin in court? Denny Hamlin and Michael Jordan have a stock car racing team together, 23XI. They're in court over antitrust laws.

I've been trying to figure out what an antitrust law is

it's not going the best but I what I can tell you is I think what I have come the small conclusion I've come to is like it's about like NASCAR's making too much of the money they think it's like not the way they got it set up is like they're paying way too much up top yeah they own the tracks they own they won't let you do other races they're limiting the cars to like one size fits all They just want more money.

It's like, you guys are getting way too paid. We're paying out way too much.

Spider explained this to me a couple months ago, and it has a lot to do with NASCAR owning the tracks that all the NASCAR events are at. So they're saying it's a monopoly.

There's no room for competition. If you're a track out there, you can't get into the...
You can't break that glass ceiling to be a big boy.

So they're doing it for the smaller race teams to hopefully turn a profit. Yeah, you know what?

I'm on Denny Hamlin's side.

I'm all in. I am too.
Yeah. It's MJ and Denny Hamlin.
Yeah, I don't know any of the facts. I'm just going to blindly say

he should win in court. Apparently, he was tearing up in court.
Yeah. Yeah.
Getting real emotional. He's talking about the family and everything.
Yeah, talking about his dad. That's what I saw.

That's what I saw this morning. Very powerful.
Yeah. Okay, your cool throne?

My cool throne,

us, I guess the viewers, the listeners, maybe, probably be a disaster, but it'll be funny. Dickie V and Charles Barkley are calling a first four NCAA tournament.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I love it.

And a regular season game for ESPN. Wait, who's the play-by-play?

I don't know. That's the hardest job.
It's got to be, what's his name? Pash, who used to do Bill Walton's. Yeah, he's used to getting weird with.
Like, you can't.

That's just an insane.

I'm so excited. You need the straightest man to be the play-by-play guy.
Yeah. Jake Marsh.
Mm-hmm.

Let's see. Dave O'Brien.
Okay.

I think he's good. He's like a...

No offense, Dave. I think he's just...
Sounds like a

Syracuse. Play-by-play guy.
Play-by-play guy. This is great.
This is a perfect way to get everybody to watch the first four.

Yeah, there's Dave O'Brien. Did he go to Syracuse?

Tell me he went to Syracuse. Show us Syracuse.
Syracuse.

They're also doing Kentucky, Indiana, December 13th. Oh, so they're going to get a little warm-up.
Yeah, warm-up. Hank, you don't know who this guy is?

He does the Red Sox.

Oh, yeah, sure.

He is the lead play-by-play announcer for the New England Sports Network. Nessin.

Hank's locked in.

Not a regular season Red Sox guy. That's fine.

Hank's staring at the screen. I'm trying to think of a lot of people.
Wait, well, when did he start with Nesson? Like, you're going to be a good person. Good question.
By question. Bye Boston.

When did he start? He's probably pretty new.

He probably just started. Scroll down.
Let's see when he started with. No, I know him now.

Come on. Don't worry.
It's just 2007. Yeah.

No,

Hank.

No, 2015 was when he started doing the... I'm looking right now.
2015.

Okay. But you know what?

For a guy like that? No, 2016. That was when he moved to New York.
Yeah. For a guy like that,

he's almost like an umpire. It's almost better when you don't know their names sometimes.
Yeah. He is like

Sarah. I said Sarah Q,

they're all the same. Yeah.
Superfic replacement.

Okay.

Oh, see, yeah. It's the shirt and the sympathy weight.
What is that? Memes found the

memes found the harbor. I look like a late-stage Razor Ramon with that hair, too.
What is going on?

This looks like when we had to pick each other's outfits for Gritwee. No, I picked that myself.

Yeah. Big Kat, I gotta be honest with you.
Well, that was at a golf tournament. Yeah.
PFT outfit.

I gotta be honest with Big Kat. I've worn that exact same outfit probably like 50 times in my life.
I remember those shirts.

I thought they looked good, and in hindsight, they were just like sausage sausage cases. That is straight out of my closet.

Okay. It looks good.

This is like the same shirt.

I know. It's the same brand.

Listen, there's a reason why I wear black t-shirts now all the time. BFT, your hot seat cool drug.
My hot seat is Juice Kiffin.

Yeah. Lane Kiffin's dog.
Apparently, and this is according to the internet.

Lane did not bring Juice Kiffen, his dog, with him, to LSU. And the reason for that is Juice Kiffin might not have ever been Lane Kiffin's dog to begin with.
Dang.

It might have been a fake dog situation that they had. That he was an unofficial mascot of the university and he belonged to a local kennel, but they put Kiffin's last name on the dog.

And he acted like it was his dog.

And it was never his dog to begin with. It's kind of crazy.
That is crazy. It's crazy.
But they get Juice Kiffen in the breakup.

They do get Juice Kiffen, but is Juice Kiffen going to change his last name? Is he going to be Juice Golden now? Yeah, he'll get yelled at. Yeah.
If he shows up, if Kiffin shows up.

He's got to pick sides. I mean, the way Herb Street defended Lane Kiffen has me wondering about Peter and if his dogs actually belong to him or if they're property of ESPN.
Uh-oh.

How deep does this go with

this mess? But yeah,

I love... all the messiness behind the breakups, the jilted fans being like, that wasn't even your fucking dog, dude.

So yeah. It would have been funny if Lane Kiffen had just taken Juice with him.
Yeah. Just been like, yeah, that's my dog.

I'm taking him. Yeah,

does the dog come with the job? Is that one of the perks? I think it has to.

Yeah,

the next coach of Old Miss, Pete Golding,

should be Juice Golden. Juice Golding.
I actually do believe that Mike the Tiger belonged to Coach O, though, when he was there. Yeah, no, that's...
I think that's a Louisiana law.

Also, Coach O might be back, which is going to be awesome. He looks good.

Well, it's just Lane's going to hire him. Yeah.
Which I don't know.

I was wondering this. Coacho has one more payment from LSU.
I think December 15th. If Lane hires him, let's say tomorrow, is there offset language that LSU has to pay him half a month?

No, doesn't have to pay the rest of the buyout because he got a job at LSU?

Possibly.

I could see Coach O going back to LSU. No, I'm going to say 100%.
No, yeah.

I'm saying he almost, like, he definitely is going to. Is that actually confirmed? No, but the way that Lane Kippen was talking, I mean, Lane Kippen was smart in his press conference.

Instead of doing the Brian Kelly and trying to put on a southern accent, he just invoked Coach O. It's like, I called O,

and then he did the Southern accent copying O. But yeah, I think there's a high chance that he gets...

He puts Coach O on his staff. They can make anything work in Louisiana.
They don't give a fuck.

The governor of Louisiana. Also, Scott Woodward, the guy who fired Cocho, is gone.
Yeah, he's gone. So why not? And gone unceremoniously.
And why wouldn't you want Cocho on the LSU staff?

You want him back.

It's also like a great, if you're an LSU fan, you want it because if Lane Kiffen decides to leave you, you have your interim. I don't think Lane Kiffin would ever leave.
Nah.

This is the one destination for him.

I think that

there's been a lot of reporting over the last couple of weeks that was dismissed as fake news that now I'm going back at at and looking at and believing all of it.

There was a report that the governor of Louisiana, like two weeks ago, had a two-hour-long meeting with Lane Kiffen. And then that report was denied.

I believe, I think the governor actually sealed the deal for Lane. I think that that's how deep the LSU ties go in Louisiana, where the governor was actually leading the entire coaching search.

Yeah, and also, did you see there was a report that part of the reason why he picked LSU was he had a meeting with the AD of Florida, and apparently the Florida AD gave Lane Kiffen weird vibes, which is very funny because Lane Kiffen, like, again, I like him.

I think he's great for the sport. He's been on the show a couple times.
Lane Kiffen also does do weird vibes. So they just did weird vibes off.
You know what? They just didn't vibe. Yeah.

They just didn't vibe. And then

there's another report that Lane Kiffen now is going to get postseason bonuses

for how old Miss does in the playoffs. So because he left before the end of the season, he had bonuses in his contract.
I think it was like $250,000 if they made the playoff. Yep.

Up to, I forget, was it $2 million if they won? He's basically getting a bonus bet on LSU Moneyline. Or Ole Miss Moneyline.
Ole Miss Moneyline. Lane Kiffen.

Lane Kiffen might even hit up some of the coaches at Ole Miss and just like give them some ideas for how to win the game. He's like, listen, man, I'm tied into this too.

Please win for me. Yeah.
He also looks tanner. He looks way tanner.
I feel like there was maybe a tanning bed on that jet that he took down to Baton Rouge. He looks skinny.
He does. He did.

The other thing that's happening is the story about how Lane Kippen got his

start in coaching has gone re-viral. Do you remember that story?

The David Carr, so Lane Kiffen was a backup at Fresno, and David Carr was a starter, and Lane Kiffen came out for practice one day, and he didn't have

anything

like on. Like he had, he had like shorts on and he wasn't ready to practice.
And the coach was like, what are you doing?

He's like, well, you're not going to give me any snaps, so I'm not going to be dressed to practice.

And he kicked him off the field. And then, when he went back into the locker room, the coach called Monty Kiffin, and Monty Kiffen, Lane's dad, was like, You're not quitting.

And Lane was like, Fine, I guess I'll just coach, and just put on a polo and came back out on practice. And that was it.
That was the start of his coaching career. That's awesome.

Yeah, like Monty Kiffin's like, You're not quitting the team. He's like, Well, I guess I'll just coach.
Yeah, that's awesome. Boom.
Good way to start. Yeah.
My cool throne is Philly fans.

Max, Accountability on the Cool Throne. Philly fans, obviously not happy with the performance of Kevin Petullo.
Disavow, disavow. They egged his house.

They egged Kevin Petullo's house to show their displeasure.

At least it's not batteries, right?

Nah, that's fucked up. That's fucked up.
I don't like when it when

you can talk as much shit as you want, you know, at the field, in the tail, in the tailgate, online, but I you it shouldn't get to the family home. It can't get to the family home.

Not to the family home. Do you have any suspects?

Probably the guys I was sitting at in my section.

I mean, you got any names? I got no names. Listen.

Diana Rossini said this morning on Wake-Up Arcelor that Philly has very smart football fans. Named me personally.
Personally. Named me personally.
And that's why you boo.

Because we know. You know.
Yeah, we know. You know.
It should stop at the booze, though.

No eggs. It should stop at the.
It can stay on the the sports talk radio. It can stay at the stadium.
It can stay on Twitter. You can't go to the home.

What about booing if you see him on the street?

Depends. Like walking in the neighborhood.

Walking in the neighborhood, no, but like walking to the stadium, yes. Okay, all right, no.
Walking to the stadium. So like on Eagles'

property. Yeah, on Eagles' property.

Okay.

If he's wearing Eagles gear.

I'm still going to say no.

What about appropriate distance?

Family's off-limits. Yeah, family's off-limits.
What if he's walking into the stadium and he's got his kids with him? Don't bring your kids.

Don't bring your kids. Oh, that's so he actually.

It's on him. He should have known better.
What's the proper distance to boo him in person?

You got to be at the stadium. No, no, no.
But like, say you see him walking in South Philly.

Are we keeping 10 feet? I think you got to keep it like 10, 15 feet to boo. Because you don't want to be around him.
No, you don't want to get in in his face. No, longer than.

I'm trying to. Unless it's like in passing, you know, like you're

walking one way, he's walking one way. And then it's like, and you just boo, keep it going.
Or you just hit him with like a side out of the side of your mouth, like, boo.

Just a quick. Hey, coach.
Nah, no, boo. No, boo's got to stay at the stadium.
Boo's got to stay at the stadium.

What about if he's at the stadium?

If he's walking into the stadium, it's okay. What if you see him at the supermarket? No, no booze at the supermarket.
Wait, no booze, but can you walk past him and just do a thumbs down?

Thumbs down.

One thumbs down.

The thumbs down is really good.

What if you're driving through Philadelphia and you pull up to a red light and you look to your right and you just see that he happens to be stopped right to your right? Is there dice in your mirror?

And his window's down. No, you got to have the ball.
If you have the ball sack coming off the back of the pickup truck. Okay, if you have truck nuts and shuck nuts, then

that's just expected. Do you have any questions regarding the security around Kevin Batullo, Hank? No, I think he's fine.
Okay.

Private life's got to be private, though. Private.
Private life. Do you think that there's any way that they could protect him?

I mean, the people that threw those eggs are probably going to end up at the bottom of a river, but that's just, they should know that.

This problem can be solved with a lawn chair and Big Dom

just sitting in the front yard.

Yes, it will be. Yeah.
It will be. It will be taken care of.
It will be taken care of. Yeah, no, don't do that, though.
It's bad. Don't throw eggs.
Don't go to people's houses.

Don't go to people's houses. That's really, it's the kind of weird.
Like, don't, yeah, because when we say don't throw eggs, that means that it were

not implying, or we're kind of implying, like, oh, yeah, it's great to drive. Don't go to his house.
Don't go. You shouldn't know where your coaches live.
You shouldn't.

That means you actively looked for it. How did that get out? Yeah.
And also, you were looking for it. And it's probably, that means it's probably somebody in the neighborhood.

I would imagine they live in a nice house in Philly. Yeah.
So it's a neighbor that probably also owns a nice house.

Like a millionaire in Philadelphia went to the store, bought eggs, and then went to Kevin Petulo's house to egg it. Are you looking up the Don LeGreca rant? One of my favorites of all time.

Boo him at the mall.

What was it? Evan Neal said that flip.

Play just a little bit of it. It's so good.
Boo him everywhere. Do we know where

it was at this time? All right.

Here's the Don Legreca from a couple of years ago talking about Evan Neal after he made fun of the fans. Flip hot dogs and hamburgers somewhere? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

I'd cut his ass. I would.

How dare you? How dare you?

These people pay your salary. They pay an obnoxious amount of money to park, an obnoxious amount of money for PSLs to sit there and watch this pap and you call him hamburger flippers? What?

You're so much better.

I'd rather have a guy that's flipping hamburgers blocked than your piece of garbage ass.

Who the hell are you to talk to fans like that? You piece of garbage.

I hate when players do that. You're not above us.
What? Because you happen to play a sport? You make them, you're better than me. You're better than the people that pay your salary.

These giant fans were here before you, and they'll be here after your sorry ass is cut.

What a piece of human trash. And I don't want to hear some apology.
I don't want to hear, oh, I was taken out of contact.

I I don't want to hear, done,

done. I would cut his fat ass.

Oh, if I'm John Mara, I call him into the office and say,

you were a first-round pick, but you're not worth anything.

You don't talk to our fans that way. You don't talk to me that way.

You are out of a job. I doubt that.
You should boo him. If you see him in the mall of Bulletbrook, boo his ass.

If you see him on the DMV, boom.

Don't stop booing him. If He goes to the Pro Bowl.
Boom.

If he wins a Super Bowl, boo his sorry.

If he goes to the mall in Willowbrook, boom. Yeah, Petulo hasn't, he hasn't said anything like that about the fans.
No, that's what.

We got to keep it professional. We got to keep it professional.
What's about job performance?

It's got to be a final statement. It's only at the link.
Only at the link.

Maybe the Nova Care, the practice complex. But that's it.

It's got to be on Eagles' grounds for booing. You can't.

No personal booze. No personal booze.

It's family stuff. All right, cool turn.

I think that was my accountability. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
My hot seat is Mike Tomlin and the Steelers because I actually think that he might this might be it.

I don't know who's going to break up with who, though. I don't know who.
The Rudies don't feel like breaking up with coaches ever. They've had three coaches since like Vietnam.
Yeah.

And Mike Tomlin.

He can't be happy. Like the last, what, 10 years, no playoff wins? Yeah.
Tomlin's Tomlin's probably not happy with the situation either.

He doesn't really be, he doesn't seem to be trying to do anything different to change it. And it's just the same, it's the same thing

in every single year. So I saw this stat from Ben Solik.
He said,

the Steelers haven't completed a downfield pass in 36 days. They're...

0 for 13, three interceptions last five games combined on 20-plus air yard passes. They just can't, their whole offense stinks.
Their defense is the most expensive and it stinks.

I think you just have to get rid of them. It was, I don't think they completed a pass over 20 air yards in the entire month of November.
Yeah, 36 states. And Jameis at one point had,

I think, four of those passes in a single game. Yeah.
And it just, the offense is completely broken. Tomlin is not having fun.
The fans aren't having fun.

That's what I'm saying. I do think that

the Mars could be convinced to like they crave the uh the silent authoritative leadership and stability of nine and eight seasons in new york i could see i could see the giants trying to get i i rex ryan was saying on on get up that he would get a job in two seconds i don't know if he would anymore i think he would get another job i think he might have to take a year off

if it was this like it's been that bad where it's it's just the same football over and over and over and over and they don't change anything and it's i mean TJ Watts said it.

I think the Bills ran the same play 27 times on Sunday. That's insane.
Yeah, it's bad. It's bad.

But it feels like this is finally because we've been in this spot before where people will have murmurs about Mike Tomlin.

And I guess, yeah, you should probably just bet the Steelers this weekend because this is when he wins. And if he beats the Ravens, then everybody, like, the ownership's going to be happy.
Yeah.

If they make the playoffs, the ownership's going to be happy. Yeah.
But yeah,

it should be.

I don't even know who should break up with who at this point. No, I don't either.

I think he should just stop coming to work after the season's over. Yeah.
It's because we both know that it's time.

And then my cool throne is LeBron because congratulations to LeBron.

He kept his streak alive of scoring 10 games, which is a totally made-up streak that he cares a lot about because he scored his 10th point when they were down like 22 to the Suns in the fourth quarter.

Yeah, and then subbed himself out immediately. Yeah.
He had four points in the first half, I think. Yeah.
Yeah.

Also, this streak does not count postseason games because if it did, Jordan would have the streak, but whatever. It counts only regular season because LeBron did score eight points against him.

Can we just admit that LeBron's in his stat padding time? Like, it's fine. It's fine.

I'm not trying to be a hater. I am a hater, but I'm not trying to be a hater in this moment.

It's okay to just be like, when everyone says longevity and all this stuff, he's just stat-padding the rest of the season. Yeah.
Probably next season. Yeah.
Lucas. He's trying to golf.

He's moved on from basketball. Golf?

Yeah, he's going to golf. He is.
Like,

that's the first sign. But being being like, I have to score 10 points every game is,

I don't know. It's weird.
So if you get really into golf while you're still working at your current job, that's the first sign that you're checked out. Yeah.
Big time. No naps.
No naps. No naps.

No naps.

No, I would say that if you get really into watching golf on YouTube,

you're probably

checking his phone like during games. Yeah.
Like, let's see what the Bob Doves guys are up to this week. Oh, Bob Dubs is playing Max Homa again? This is fucking sick.
I actually am excited for that.

No,

Bob did tweet out that he has, like, they're doing a John Rahm and a Max Homa this week. So LeBron probably excited.
This is actually, I'm speaking from actual facts. I am excited for those.

I bet you LeBron is too. So, LeBron's going to watch Max Homa play golf.
Yeah. That's a lot of pressure on Max Homa.
Max, we miss you. I do miss having Max on the show.
We should get him back.

We should have him on.

I hit him up. He actually was, he texted me on Sunday about the Bears.
Or no, Friday, about the Bears. I heard from him in a while.
Last week as well.

We should try to do a video with him. Let's do it.
When we're going to be in Scottsdale.

I don't have to twist your arm.

Zach, Hot Seek Quilter on. My Hot Seat this week.
I'm going to try to.

I'm going to try to, moving forward, not bring this up anymore, but I would just like to say a lot of the blob doubters need to understand that we're in trouble. Have you guys seen what's going on?

I'm not doubting anymore. You're right.
A lot of doubters. It's going to fuck us up.
It's going to fuck up the whole country. Yeah, Big Hat.
We are.

Earth could be finished. We could be done.

I saw it, but I actually, does anyone else do this where if it's going to be a bad winter, I'm just...

I saw these models and people saying that I think the Northeast and the South is getting some snow and like having, as long as everyone's in it together.

Texas you're getting snow. I'm good.
I'm good with it. Tallahassee, panhandle snow.
Get ready.

If you can't pick a spot on the map outside of Southern California that's good, it's like, all right, fine. It all sucks for everyone.
Is the blob here?

Are we currently in the blob? The blob's here to stay. I think the blob is going to continue to be

a fixture of our lives. 500 flights canceled recently.
We're at 10 inches of snow for the year. We're at like 17 inches of snow for the entire last year.
Yeah. Last year was easy.
We're already at 10.

Last year was easy. But guess what? Here's how you got to think about it.
Winter. This one's going to suck.

But then comparatively, next year is going to be a breeze. There's a world the blob never goes away.
Oh, my God. So permanently.

Now you're being a little dramatic. I feel bad for Zach, obviously, because it is his first winter, but I also think it's like, if it was last winter, Zach would have been like, winter sucks.

Yeah, but winter was easy last winter.

It's still winter. Yeah, it was.

There was that like two-week stretch. December was easy, and there was no snow.

And it was money by St. Patrick's Day last year.
So, Zach, what I'm saying is this actually is a good ⁇ you got to think about the optimistic view of this.

This is actually a great thing for you because this is your first winter of your entire life.

It's going to be be bad, but then every winter after that's going to be easy. Unless the blob never goes away.
Unless the blob never goes away. So wait.

So the warm blob right now is over the Pacific. Yeah, and then

so Pacific is having like a permanent summer right now.

I think it's pushing the cold air down. We don't, I don't know.

Let's not make assumptions. We can't even do time.
Let's not make assumptions. There's a warm weather pattern.

There's a warm blob that's like just posted up over Hawaii.

It took us 20 minutes to get to the bottom of an F1 race.

Now we're going to do. We can't do meteorology on this show.
This is not a meteorologist show.

If I had to take an educated guess that's not educated, I think there's probably warm air sitting over the Pacific that then pushes the cold air from Canada further down.

That was a greatly educated guess.

I think that's like pretty close to what Blob's got going on. I do want to say, you're right.
I was being dramatic there. Blob will go away, but it's sinking its toes right now.

Listen, you got video games?

We got the game, but I'm just thinking like

outages. Huge.
The amount of snow. The other thing is, you didn't.

I actually am not going to hear any complaints from you because I'm remembering now that in the summer on Sundays when we'd come in and I'd ask what you did this weekend, and I said, would ask if you had gone outside, you'd say no.

Oh, I'm talking safety.

Your life is not changing at all. You're kind of built for the vlog.
Yeah.

You would not, like, I remember specifically like a beautiful 80 degree weekend in August and I was like, holy shit, what perfect weather. And you were like, yeah, I didn't go outside.

Those are 100% facts and I'm not going to dispute that. I'm speaking from more of a safety point of view.
You'll be safe. We'll be safe.
You're going to be safe. You'll be safe.

You're going to be safe. I'm still going to have to be able to do it.
You're going to be outside for a total of like 20 minutes in like December and January combined.

Which also means again, it's no different than July.

Is this going to be an extended?

What was that? Is this going going to be like an extended blob situation? Like, is the winter going to be longer or just worse? I think it's just going to be colder and more snow.

I don't mind the snow. It feels as if the seasons keep getting pushed back a little bit.
You know how

we crept into winter later? No, because we got snow in November. We had a great, great fall, though.
Incredible fall.

What if Hank's never able to play golf again and he's just really good left-handed and he can never play on a course? Damn. We'll be back.
How's the left summer going? Day two. It's going okay.

How was day one?

It was all right. It's grind.
Just trying to build on the fundamentals. Find something consistent.
You didn't take a single swing ready? Nope.

Are you cool throwing? My cool throne this week is going to be Playboy Cardi. He's the latest person to receive a Fortnite icon skin because we got Chapter 7 Season 1 dropping.

You guys see any clips from Chapter 7 Season 1? No Battle Bus.

Have not. Battle Bus going.
You can drive the reboot van.

Battle bus blew up. Tomato Town back.
Don't know any of these facts. Surfing in.
You just surf in. No more Battle Bus.
Tilted?

Good question. Not back.
Out. Don't understand anything that's happening right now.
Nope. And I'm kind of scared.
I never played Fortnite, but if Tilted's not in, I'm definitely not playing.

College Fortnite was elite.

Get icon skins.

You get to represent your IRL self in-game self. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Zach's going to show you.
I think you guys would make great icon skins. You guys had icon skins in college football.
Right.

Didn't they?

You did. Yeah, right.

So this is

Fortnite.

Fortnite is the game where you compete and one person wins. Battle Royale.
It depends if you're, you know, if you're doing duos or squads, then

your team wins. You got to think about duos.

Who's the best here?

Is the gold scar back?

I would assume Zach.

Oh, we can't make any assumptions.

I can't.

When was the last time you played?

I never claim to be good at any games. What's your KD? I just play a lot of games.
What's your KD?

Oh, I don't check KD right now because we're camo grinding. Okay.
Right. Gotcha.
Got it. Yep.
Makes sense.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is our college football expert for like three more weeks.
Well, yeah.

Yeah, but I don't know that you really took

last year's results and did anything with it. So you were the college football expert.
We've said it many times. You only used me one time after that.
No. So you didn't even really use me.

This doesn't count. This is the second time.

Right. By myself, this is the second time.
So Brandon Walker's here. We had you on the couch with Tom Fornelli when you were the rating champion.
But

I won the award, and the next time I was on the show, he was still here.

So that didn't seem like an award at all. Well,

I thought that you would want to gloat and to show him dominance face to face. Probably your last time time because you are going to lose this year.
I'm going to lose this year.

Which shows you what a messed-up year it was in college for well, not really. None of you picked, you went 12 deep.
Yeah, none of us picked Indiana. Indiana, it was the current two seed.

You also are going to lose it because you gave a guarantee over this past week, and uh, it turned to be wrong. So, you guaranteed that Lane Kiffen was going to stay at Ole Miss.

How did Brandon Walker get this so wrong?

Um,

This is tough.

You didn't tell me you were going to do this. Yeah, I did not tell you I was going to do this.
I did not tell you.

My credibility means a lot to me in the college football space.

And I believe from the sources that I was hearing was that Lane Kiffen loved Oxford and he thought it was the best place on earth and he would never leave anywhere.

Because Lane Kiffen himself said, I'm not going anywhere just for the money. And it turns out he went somewhere that gave him the biggest offer of money.
And

I felt in my heart that he was going to stay in Oxford. I think college football would have been better if he stayed at Ole Miss because that's just such a great place.

And I am heartbroken that he decided to leave those douchebags. Yeah.
Brandon, a quick follow-up here.

You said, yeah, PFT Comment are part of my Tick podcast. Sure.
You said that he didn't leave for the money, but then he actually did leave for the money.

I heard Lane Kiffen say in his press conference yesterday at LSU that he actually didn't know how much the schools were offering him. He told his agent, Jimmy Sexton, this is not about the money.

Yeah.

It was like a blind mystery box. It was like deal or no deal.
Yeah. And he had no idea if they were even going to pay him.
So at this point, why are we holding Lane Tiffin press conferences?

Who's believing a word he says? Okay, I got to go. Who's believing a word this guy says when it comes to it? He said, I'm not leaving for the money.
I immediately left for the money.

He says, My heart's here. He said, This is my dog.
It's not his dog. Like, everything he said ended up being real.

We already talked about the dog earlier in the show, so we're not going to talk about it. The dog thing is the most important thing in college football right now.
It wasn't his dog. It's not his dog.

But all right, so here's my question for you. We're actually looking at the updated standings and Branson only has Texas, Notre Dame, who both might not get in, and Oregon.
Oregon's going to be in.

Oregon will be in. And

I think you're mathematically eliminated. Yeah, I think I'm done.
Okay, so. How did you get this so wrong? Can I have the leftover teams?

And I would still, I think if I took all the leftover teams that aren't listed, I'll give you Indiana. I think I'm still competitive.
No Max Championship. And Tom, here's the thing.

Tom is blowing me out. Tom didn't do good either.
No, he did.

He did way much better. Ohio State.
He got Georgia. He got Tulane.
Texas. I think Alabama could do that.
Texas Tech with the last pick. Alabama could be green, right? Bama could be green.

Miami could be green. Yeah, like he might, he might do okay.
Okay, so Tulane. Like, he's actually, is that Tulane? Yep.
Yeah. Okay.

So, Brandon, I want to talk about the college football playoff, but before we do that,

I want to talk about Lane for a couple more seconds here. Sure.

Do you like Lane Kiffen? Because I love Lane Kiffen, and here's why I love Lane Kiffen.

He's Lane Kiffen. Yeah.
Nothing that he does, like when people are shocked by Lane Kiffen, it's like, well, dude, he's Lane Kiffen.

He's been the same guy his entire career. Yeah.

How anyone, like even this morning, I was on Wake Up Parcel and I asked T-Bob the simple question.

Do you think that Lane Kiffen found his forever home? Oh, you love it. And he does.
And I'm like, you're a moron. He's an idiot.
Like, Lane Kiffen will be at LSU. Lane Kiffen's a really good coach.

He might win a national title. He'll leave.
Right. He's going to leave for the Dolphins job job or the Bills' job.
He's going to leave for an NFL job in four years.

It's going to be hilarious when he's going to be in the business. He's got four years.
Of the top 10 exits, most incredible exits in college for all history, Lane Kiffen's got three of them.

He's got the Tarmac. He's got, well, I know this is NFL.
He's got the PowerPoint presentation with Al Davis. He's got Knoxville Riots.
He's got the Knoxville Riots.

And now he has stringing Ole Miss along for weeks and weeks and weeks, saying all these things, and then immediately going to LSU and trying to hold his team hostage. And LSU and Ole Miss are rivals.

They're rivals, yeah. They're secondary rivals.
They hate each other. Yeah, they hate each other.
They're secondary rivals for Ole Miss, but they are rivals.

I've heard that some Ole Miss fans hate LSU more than the Mississippi. Well, they're lying.
They're lying.

That's what I heard. You can't believe an Ole Mission at all.
They're lying pieces of shit. They lie all the time.

They're fake university.

They break the dog. That's what I heard.
I think I heard some Ole Miss fans hate LSU. They're lying to try to make themselves look superior.

No, after all this happens, you better believe that's the rivalry.

Now it's a big-time rivalry. Yeah.
Now it's even bigger bigger than it was. It is gigantic.
So who's just going to... Who's your rival? Because you don't have one.
Ours is Ole Miss.

Don't do this shit. Don't do this dumb shit.
I wouldn't see it. But Lane Kiffin.
So

you kind of like him.

If he wasn't coaching Ole Miss, I think you'd kind of like him because my whole thesis with Lane Kiffen is guys like this make sports, especially college football, more entertaining. So there it is.

This is the most college football for all time. We love it too much.
We're too passionate about it.

We believe when a coach comes to our school and wins, he not only is winning for our school, he loves our school. He is now home.
We're his family.

And now we're going to embrace his family like our own. And we're going to do all these things.
He's just a guy doing a job. Yeah.
That's what he is. And he just took, all he did was take another job.

And he took what he considered a better job.

But it is absolute knife-in-the-heart betrayal to Ole Miss fans that this family member, this man that we have worshiped for six years, would turn his back on us. The man just took a better job.

And to your question, do I like Lane Kiffen?

I like what he just did to Ole Miss. And I think college football is a better place when you have wild cards like Lane Kiffen.
And I think he is a top, probably, five coach in this country.

I think he's an elite coach. I don't know if he's an elite human being, but that's what makes him even more appealing.
Yeah, I mean, that's so sad. None of these guys are.

You've got to be an asshole to win the highest level. Who's an elite human being? It's like when you have a coach.
Who cares if they are?

Like a professional athlete or a high-level coach, they should not have any perspective whatsoever. They're psychopaths.
Yeah.

They think about like two things: one is football, and sometimes the other is where the hoes are at. So

I never had, I've had to hide my, I've never had a texting relationship with Lane. I don't have his phone number or anything.

But I've had to hide my DMs with him over the last few years where I would say, you know, I would send him a little jab. He'd send me a little jab.
He'd send me a scoreboard.

He'd send me the SEC standings.

But like, I do like that he exists. And I love that he absolutely made old Miss Fans feel.
good.

But I'll also say, as much as I'm defending Lane Kiffen here, I have no problem with Ole Miss fans being as upset as they are because they feel like it's the fact that it's a playoff.

Here's the thing. It's the playoffs.

And this guy, listen, shout out Ben Garrett for Own 3. He had the exact right line.
You cannot turn a hoe into a housewife. And when Ole Miss hired Lane Kiffen, Lane Kiffen was Lane Kiffen then.

And they knew, they knew Lane Kiffen was Lane Kiffen. For six years, they masked it and they covered it.

And they had ESPN do these documentaries about how he's a changed man, how he loves Oxford, then he's changed, he's matured, and boom, they turn on him, or he turns on them, they turn on him, and it's all but it's the playoff game.

Like, if they weren't in the playoffs, I think this would not have anywhere near the bad blood that it is. I think it was always going to end.

Poorly, but like you... If you're a fan of Ole Miss, like, you have every right to be like, are you fucking serious? You have a chance to win a national title this year.

I think Lane knows he doesn't have a chance to win a national title, and that's why he's leaving. I think he knows he doesn't have a national title.

If he thought he had a national title team, he would try to win it. Do you think they should have let him coach the Egg Bowl?

Because that was where, like, that's the only thing that Ole Miss screwed up in my mind. Is if Lane had said he was going to LSU a couple weeks ago, she'd be like, all right, go.

See you. I am of the belief they knew 10 days ago.
Right. 10 days ago, they announced the day after the Egg Bowl, we're going to announce something in those future.
They knew then.

They chose to let him coach the Egg Bowl to make sure they get that win, to make sure whatever. And maybe they thought in that 10-day interim, they could convince him to stay.

But in that 10 days, Alex Golish went off the market. John Summerall went off the market.
All the other coaches they could have gotten.

And I know John Summerall and Alex Golish would have taken that job. Mincy was trying to get John Summerall.
And

he was. They lost

all those guys and ended up having to hire their defense coordinator, Pete Golden.

So, what about the clause in the contract where Lane Kiffen is now getting paid his bonuses that Ole Miss would have paid them? I think this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

I love this football play. It's gambling, it's free bets.
The LSU Tigers are going to pay Lane Kiffen $1 million if Ole Miss wins the national title. What a stupid fucking sport.
Yeah.

What a stupid sport. Can you imagine the Yankees hiring the Dodgers manager and saying if the Dodgers won the World Series, we're going to give you a million dollars? Yeah.

No, you can't. It's crazy.
It's absolutely nuts. Do you think that Lane is going to be actively rooting for Ole Miss? Yes.

And he's for a win. I guess for the million dollars, maybe.

The totality of the situation. I think he's rooting for them to lose as soon as possible so he can go get his players.

I think he's rooting for that season to end as quick as possible, and he's going to end the post-game. Text messages are going to start lighting up in that locker room.
That's what I think.

Is he allowed to post the Trinidad flag emoji, or is that tampering? Trinidad's a country, is it not? It is, yeah.

He can support any country he wants. Okay.

Why can't he support Trinidad and Tobago? Mm-hmm. Well, thank you for remembering this tobago.
I think he's just supporting the Trinidad part of it. I'm not sure.
I mean, he put the Trinidad flag out.

Seems like he's a man of the world, a worldly man. You love Lane Kiffin.
All right, so I love what Lane Kiffen has become.

Lane Kiffen has become a means to an end for me, and it has been delicious. Last Lane Kiffen question for me.

What is the bare minimum for the bar for success at LSU? Let's see in the next four years. I think it's a national title honesty.
So they get to a national championship, don't win it,

bust.

With Brian Kelly, he never got past 9-3, 8-4. I think if he threw a 10-2 in there, he would probably still be safe, maybe an 11-1.

But Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss, a tougher job to win at, has won 10 games in a regular season four times. He's proven he can do it in the SEC.
Brian Kelly had never proven he could do it in the SEC.

And when he got here, there was such a clash of cultures, and he was just fighting from behind all the time.

And frankly, the difference in him winning 9-10 games a couple of those years was he had to play Lane Kiffin's Ole Miss, and Lane got him.

Now Lane's going to be playing Pete Golding's Ole Miss. I think Lane's going to get them.

So, like, I think he's going to raise the bar a little bit at LSU, but if in four years you haven't won a national title for a program that has won three national titles in the last two decades with three different coaches, frankly, only one of them probably as good as Lane.

I think that's reasonable expectations. So, can I just real quick? Yep.

I love Lane Kiffin. Yeah, yeah.
I knew you did. Lane's great.
Kiffy's the fucking best. He's a great story.

He faked that dog, though. He did fake.
Well, the dog is real. The dog's real.
It just never belonged to him. Yeah.

But we already talked about it, so we can't talk about it more time. Taking the the best story.

How big of a disaster? Hand company right now. How big of a disaster is the Penn State coaching search right now? It is a disaster.
They were the first ones to the buffet line.

They cut bait early on James Franklin. He went 11-1, 10-2, 11-1, 10-2 every single year.
And the second he lost a couple of games he wasn't supposed to lose, they said, nope, we're Penn State.

We're better than this. And now they watch LSU go hire Lane Kiffin.
They watch all these SEC jobs open and fill in front of them. And Kurt Signetti, he's not trying to coach.

You know, Mike Elko's not not coming. So now

they're down 15, 16, 20 coaches deep in this search.

And they've got nothing. Signing days tomorrow.
I don't think they just do the interim.

Max had the best idea. Just hire was Terry Smith? Terry Smith, yeah.
Terry Smith, hire him as the interim. But

that's a band-aid on a watch. No, no, but no, no, no, no.

Hire him. Don't take the interim off.
Just go a full year. Full year into a full year interim.
A year and a half interim.

Go to the first of the buffet next year. Yeah, right.

But they didn't do anything with their buffet line this year. So what you're telling me.
But you're staying at the buffet.

Because you have an interim. If I had sat there in September and said, yeah, Penn State, you're firing James Franklin this weekend so that you may hire a new coach in 16 months?

I would have said, yeah, interim Terry.

You're at the buffet line.

You never leave the Predator.

Let's never leave the Predator.

You've definitely done this move.

You've gone to Bob Evans or to Golden Corral and you've gone up to the buffet and you've had your plate and you just eat off your plate while you're standing next to the buffet.

So, I have done, not at a Bob Evans. Uh, I've only eaten at Bob Evans once, it was in Lexington, Kentucky in 2014.
And I thought Bob Evans was a nice restaurant.

And I like, I tried to call and make a reservation for it.

I was like, I'm going to Lexington for the first time. Let me Google restaurants.
I saw Bob Evans. I'm going to check it out.
And I got in there.

I was like, okay, well, this is just a Shones with a different name. Yeah.
And, but yeah, I've rolled some tricks at Buffet Lines. I always do that.
With the calendar of the week.

I used to go to the Pizza Hut Buffet every day after school for lunch.

And I knew what time they would put pizzas out, usually about 11.01, something like that. If they didn't have it by 11.01, I'm standing at the buffet one.
Oh, yeah.

My hometown growing up had a McDonald's breakfast buffet. That's crazy.
You could go to it. They had the hot cakes, the sausages, the eggs.

They had the egg McMuffins that you could just get under the city. My town had a KFC buffet.
That's pretty good. That's pretty awesome.

The buffet move that PFT described is, I've done that every single time I've ever been in a buffet. Why wouldn't you?

You put the food on your plate, and then you just eat off the plate as you go because you say to yourself, oh, I want a slice of pizza, but I really want the Chinese, So I'm going to eat the slice of pizza while I walk to the Chinese.

Well, let me ask you this because this is, I think, the fattest move I've ever told a buffet.

You go through the line, you make your plate, casino buffets, especially, because you almost never know what's coming. You just keep going.
Oh, you, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Rookie. No, I'm not a rookie.
Yeah. Okay.
That was a rookie move. Anyway, fine, fine.
You know what's coming because you do an entire pass-through. But let me say.
So you have a little bit.

Okay, so that's not a full plate. This is my fat move.
I go in. I see that.
Good. Fill it up.
Fill it up. Fill it up.
Fill it up. Plate's full.
I walk to the table. I put my plate down.
I go back.

Yeah,

double plate. Yeah.
Yeah, double plate. Double plate.
What you're describing, you did your reconnaissance move.

As you're eating.

I go literally plate in hand reconnaissance where I'm not filling up.

I'm just taking pieces to eat, and then I go back. I can't do that.
The second I get into the buffet restaurant, I have to get to the buffet and start getting things on. But I'm getting to the buffet.

No, but you're looking. No, no, no.

I'm looking and eating. You're reconnaissance, though.
I'm reconnaissance, but I'm also eating.

I'm just not.

I go, my reconnaissance. So you're taking 80% of the city.

I start at the front of the buffet, and I have a plate that's empty, and I will go through the entire buffet, and I'll start back at the front, and my plate will still be empty, but I've already eaten.

Does that make sense? I see. I'm seeing.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I've already had like a half.

You've had like three strips of bacon. But as I walk.
Yeah, exactly. You've had some tater tots and all that stuff.
That's correct. But there's nothing to show for it.
Pins great. Yeah.
Disaster.

They've got National Signing Day. They don't have a coach.
Right. Jay Franklin's getting all their recruits.
He's getting all their recruits. Everyone's going down to Virginia Tech right now.

How bad of a sign is it for Texas AM that Elko kicked the tires? That he thought he was.

I don't think it's a terrific sign that he didn't go.

Penn State, to me, is pretty easily a top 10 to 12 job nationally. I think it's the number three job in the Big Ten.

I disagree. Okay, tell me who.
Ohio State, Michigan, and what? USC.

Argument could be made. An Oregon is

an Oregon as well. But I, I, I, okay, but it's in that conversation.
You would agree.

It's in the second tier of the Big Ten firmly.

If I'm Mike Elko and I really had no ties to Texas A ⁇ M before I, or really no, I know he'd been there before, but really no ties to A ⁇ M before he ever coached there, and I had Pennsylvania ties, which I believe that he does have, that's something you, that's a conversation you have.

If I'm A ⁇ M and my coach goes out, talks to Penn State, comes back and signs with me, I feel really good. So he just, he clearly gisted it for the race.
He was playing the game. Listen, I think

in this crazy coaching care sale, every single year, you're going to have a lot of conversations that are solely intended to get more money from the school you're at.

You did the same thing with Brazzers when your contract was up. That's exactly what I did.
Yes, that's the extent of my

extent of my conversations with Brazzers. You had a Brazzers background? I did.

I have some ties to Brazzers.

I was conceived on Brazzers. Power user, yeah.
All right, so Penn State's fucked. Everything else kind of settled a little bit.

What, Let's talk about the playoff. Yeah.
Let's talk about the playoff. Because we're taping this in the afternoon.
At the beginning of the show, you would have heard us react to the live rankings.

I don't think there's going to be a lot of crazy things.

It's a chessboard night. Right.
Are they going to move?

So, all right, let's start in the back.

Texas is out.

I actually have a take,

and people will probably say this is wrong, but it's my take. Texas is bitching and moaning about this whole, like, Ohio State.

If we didn't schedule Ohio State, are we sure they would be in if they had scheduled no one?

Because that Florida losses. I know they have three

very good wins. I think they would be because they have the win over Oklahoma.

But that was also John Matthier coming back. B-I-A-A-Y, you're right.
You're right. They have the win over Oklahoma.
They have the win over Vanderbilt.

Like, they would be in conversation with teams they beat. They would be right on the edge, though.
They wouldn't be like a slam dump. They lost to Florida.
Florida was garbage.

I think Oklahoma, I think Oklahoma is the team that probably has the best resume and is in the best spot right now of the at-large teams. And

if Texas hadn't lost to Ohio State, they'd be ahead of Oklahoma. So they'd have the best spot.
I just know they take injuries into account, and Matir was like, he barely throw.

The thing about that injury is we say Matir struggled because of the injury. He struggled every game since then.
Don't say anything bad about Sean Matir.

He has not been good since then. So Joan, you're on thin ice, buddy.

And you're heavy.

I'm the heaviest I've ever been. You can't get out on thin ice.
I'm a smooth 282 right now. You're going to fall through.
Are you really? I'm at least 280.

I'm big right now. Yeah, plus or minus Darnell Washington.

You're cut about his size. I'm right at him, I think.
No, he's 311. Is he 311? He said he's 311.
He was before Thanksgiving. Yeah, I'm a little minus Darnell Washington, but he's.

Listen, we're all heavy right now. It's December, right? It's a heavy time.
So let's start at the back of it, though. Notre Dame and Miami.

I did a troll tweet on Sunday where I made my whole rankings based on loss. Good losses should matter more than good wins.
Obviously, I was joking. I understand the game was played in August.

I still think the games have to matter.

So I think it is the absolute perfect storm for this to be worst-case scenario for Notre Dame because they did spend the last three months just killing nobodies and killing USC.

And being a really good team. Being a really good team, looking like a really good team.
The quarterback's really good. The offense is really good.
They look every bit like a really good team.

And that's fine

in the beginning of November, the end of October, to look at Miami, look at Notre Dame after Miami loses two games to unranked teams and say, boy, Notre Dame really looks better right now.

I'm going to put them up. But now that we have a full picture, 12 games for every single team, the committee can look at 12 games for Miami, 12 games for Notre Dame.

They're so even on the surface that when Miami has that one the head-to-head, I don't know how the committee can reasonably look at the rest of college football and say, we looked at these two teams, one of them beat the other, we're choosing this one.

I don't know how they can do it. You can't do it.
I think that they've started to realize that. You can see in their rankings how they come out week by week.
They're squeezing them a little bit more.

They realized

the train crash that they put themselves on. Right.
Yeah, Miami kept on moving up without beating anyone. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like, wait, this makes no sense.
Because they have to,

you can't come back from that argument. Whenever they played this game, we know that that team won.
Let's be honest.

On October 15th, if you're putting together a ranking system and everything, you're thinking, I just saw Miami lose to SMU, or I saw him lose to Louisville, so I'm going to really dock them.

But as you get further and further away and you get more of a clear picture of what these teams have been the entire time, they squeeze back closer to Notre Dame.

Now, hypothetically speaking, though, if Notre Dame and Miami were to play a game, let's say, in Coral Gables on Saturday, you'd take Notre Dame.

I wouldn't be shocked with Miami won, though.

I like to do the hypotheticals we did it.

But like,

what the committee would be opening themselves up for,

and they've got a couple of these situations, right? Like, they got two teams this week, Alabama and BYU playing in conference championship games.

Can you imagine a world where Alabama loses and stays in, and BYU loses and does not? So, that to me is actually

that's the Armageddon scenario for the SEC: is you have a championship game,

and you could potentially end up punishing one of the teams for playing in and losing the championship game against a team that they already played earlier this season.

So, if you're Jimmy Sexton, the commissioner of the SEC,

what would happen? What would happen if Alabama loses, they get knocked out? Does this just end championship games? But I think BYU and Alabama are protecting each other.

No, no, no, but I disagree because Alabama, you could just say, well, they beat Georgia H. They have the wins.
Yeah, right.

BYU didn't beat Texas Tech, then lose the rematch.

If Alabama loses the rematch, you can be like, well, we can't die. But if Texas Tech kills BYU,

the committee, I think, has a right to be like, they played the best team on their schedule twice and they got killed twice. But BYU does have the fact they're 11-1, not 10-2, like Alabama.
Yeah.

It's tough.

It will be an awkward conversation for the committee chair to come out of that meeting next week if both Alabama and BYU lose and say, yeah, Alabama, we think they're good enough to go, BYU, they're not.

Unless they get killed by Texas Tech, which is very possible because Texas Tech is very good. Yeah, Texas Tech is very good.
Do you think Texas Tech is good enough to win it all?

I would like to list the teams I think are good enough to win it all. Because I'm asking this question maybe because I actually did make a bet on Texas Tech in September at 60 to 1.

That's pretty crazy.

How do you always end up with these bets? Listen, that one. I never end up with these bets.
That one was just after the Utah game. I was like, this team is fucking awesome.

Now, I made that bet being like, I don't think they can win it all. Yeah, but it's worth a shot.
But it's worth, especially because I have Ohio State futures, which are tied to other things.

Either way, give us your teams that can win it. So setting aside the idea that Ohio State's just way better than everybody, I think Ohio State can win it all, obviously.

Indiana, I'm going to pass on right now. I think Georgia.
Oh, yeah. Georgia probably.
I said pass on. I'll come back in a minute.
Georgia has the talent to win it all.

Weirdly, I don't know if they get in. I think Notre Dame's probably good enough to win it all.

I don't think Alabama is. Alabama just has a little bit of soft mentality when they get in these tough games.
I don't think they can.

When they got in that tough game against Oklahoma, like Oklahoma's tough. They can't run the ball.
Oklahoma's not good enough to win it all. Ole Miss is not good enough to win it all.

Vanderbilt, if they were to get in, not good enough to win it all. Miami, not good enough to win it all.
Texas Tech, yeah, I think I would say they are. And Indiana, I probably would say yes.

But Indiana's got this thing. They love to bully up on teams they're better than.

And when the talent advantage isn't in their favor, they struggle mightily like they did against Penn State.

Okay, so the one team that Indiana did beat that was shocking that I actually think could win it all.

Dante Moore is impressive, man.

Like, he just makes big throws. He's just, and they've got that speed.
He's impressive enough.

Like, they went at Iowa 18-16. He's impressive enough.
Well, that one doesn't count because when he played Iowa, you know, fair afternoon, night, and late in the year. That's not football.
He also

went 80 yards when he needed to and made some throws.

I don't think Orkin can come in at all.

I don't see them putting together four great playoff games.

The Indiana game was so damning to me. Like, Indiana just kind of pumped them in their own place.

They did.

I'm very interested in this Big Ten championship game. I wish it mattered.
Yeah. It just sucks that the

championship Saturday used to be awesome. It used to be like, oh, my God, we have seven games that we can just sink our teeth into.
You have it perfectly scheduled. I don't, I'm going to watch.

But I don't care. Like,

what does it matter who wins Ohio State, Indiana? I don't know. Well, let me ask this question.
Okay. So I know that as far as playoff rankings go, the winner's going to be the one seed.

The loser's probably going to be the three seed. If George.
It's going to be the four. Yeah.
Or the three or the four. Yeah.
The loser. Depending on how Texas is.

The loser at worst will be the four seed, right? So it doesn't really matter there. But how much would it fucking matter? Ohio State hadn't won the Big Ten in several years now.
No, I know.

Ohio State didn't even get there last year. Ohio State has now won 16 straight games after losing to Michigan last year.
They've beaten eight ranked teams in that span.

They're putting together a historic run. A title would mean something to them.
And how much would it fucking mean to Indianapolis to win the Big Ten? No, what you're saying is right. To the teams.

And the schools, it matters. Right.
To the people who don't matter.

To us. Whereas it used to matter.
Well, maybe we're being dumb bitches. Like SEC championships used to matter.

Are you pumped for this Alabama-Georgia game?

I'm excited to watch it, but

it doesn't feel like there's anything at stake. I'd be more pumped if it were teams that don't usually play in it.
Alabama and Georgia play in it all the time. So

Ohio State and Indiana is something new and fresh and still exciting because Indiana is still new to this. For sure.
I'm in Georgia, Japan and Georgia. I'm interested to see how Indiana does.

No, I am interested to see how Kirby Smart coaches because even after Sabin retired, he's still got this weird thing about Alabama. Yeah, he can't beat him.

And if he doesn't beat him this time, I don't know when he's going to beat them. Yeah.

What about AM? Would you use the F-word for him?

I have used it several times this year.

Not the slur that you usually use. English cigarettes.
Fraud is the word. Fraud is the word.

I know what you were saying. The F word.

Yeah, no, the one you say all the time. We're not saying that one.
We're saying, are they frauds? No, they are the F saying.

We don't care if they sleep with men or women.

Frauds. Texas AM has the classic look of a fraudulent team.
They beat Notre Notre Dame earlier this season in a game that's going to go either way.

There was a crazy holding call at the end that didn't get made. They win the game.
That is a very impressive win. That is their best win.

Their SEC schedule is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Their first seven SEC games where they started 7-0, they played teams ranked 9 through 16 in the SEC.

They played the bottom 16 teams, or the bottom seven teams in the SEC in their first seven SEC games. The second they played somebody in the top half of the league, Texas stumped them.

So this looks like a team that feels like a fraud. Marcel Reed is not Joe Montana.
Marcel Reed's a good, solid college quarterback. You can make him struggle a lot.

South Carolina almost got him. And when they did it, and I said, hey, listen, that first half is a problem because South Carolina is a bad football team.
And they made A ⁇ M look terrible for a half.

AM ended up coming back and winning. But that was a huge, huge red flag.
I know you've got a lot of friends from Texas A ⁇ M, a lot of people that respond to your tweets on Twitter. Yeah.

You get in some arguments with them.

What are they saying when you call them frauds? They are saying the F-slur that you're not

saying.

They are saying it, yeah. So you are a fraud.
Yeah, they're saying a lot of slurs back. Yeah.
Yeah, they're an angry group. Yeah, I saw your list of the most annoying fan bases.

Oklahoma's usually on that. Tennessee's on that.
The one that surprised me actually was Oklahoma. Oh, really? You don't feel that with Oklahoma? I don't.

You don't live in this space, buddy. Oklahoma is something.
I lived in Austin, Texas for about 10 years. And you didn't feel it?

And I did not, I didn't, I didn't share that same hatred towards the Oklahoma Sooner fan base. I just,

all the other ones on your list I thought were really good. I thought it was spot on.
And then Oklahoma was like, that one stands out.

They're one of those that only listen if you're talking about Oklahoma and get mad that you keep talking about Oklahoma because you're obsessed with Oklahoma. That's how you live.

You say Oklahoma lives rent-free in your brain. That's not what I say.

You're talking about them right now, dude. You can't stop me.
He asked me about them. You put them on your list.
They're on the list. I said, I don't really think about it.

I should have brought up Oklahoma. Yeah, you brought up Oklahoma.
In what way? He asked you the fan bases that are the most annoying. Yeah, it's bringing up Oklahoma.
So it's rent-free.

That's right. I gave you a question.
He asked about Oklahoma. You brought it up.
I gave you an open-ended question.

Tennis.

Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones.
Wait. I always fuck up getting it.

I always fuck up getting it.

Do it. You got it? No, no.
Indiana Jones was fine. I don't know.

That's

the end of it. But what's the

it goes down?

Okay. I had the end.
Hold on.

No, that's Indiana Jones.

Now I can't get it at all.

I got a picture of Homo walking.

It's such a great song. They just play it, and they just hammer you with it.

No, that's Indiana Jones, boy. That wasn't Indiana Jones.
That was Indiana Jones. Okay.
Whatever. Let's move on.
Da da da da da da da da da. Da da da da da da da da da da.
Da da da

Yep.

There we go.

It's a long intro.

Do it again.

It does sound like Indian Jones when you dun dun. We do the whole thing, though.

Dun dun dun dun. Oklahoma.

This is just, we're going to put that clip out rent-free.

I can't stop talking about it.

He's got the song in his head. You told me to do it.
He got a boomer sooner going in his head. You told me to do it.

Oklahoma is the worst team we're talking about for the playoff, and they have the best resume they have to be in, but they're going to. Their defense is awesome.

And I also believe in Matir. He was hurt for the middle of the season.
I know he's not been great. I think Matir is not going to be a good person.
It's not just Matir. They can't run it.
They can't.

They got nothing. But Matir can run it.
Not really. He hasn't.
He let him loose. He hadn't been doing it.

They're lucky to be like five teams in the SEC. But they beat Alabama.
And got Al-Keinelin by like 250 yards. I know.

They get Al-Keene in every game. That was less about their...
It's not that. Alabama's defense was that good.
It was Oklahoma's defense was great. Their offense is limited.

But the problem is they're half a playoff team. They're going to get in the playoffs.
They're going to lose 16-10. It's going to be the ugliest thing you've ever seen.

And we're going to be talking about, let's pull it back to an 18 playoff.

Do you have any resentment in your heart for the University of Texas after what they did to you? Is that why you're saying they're not in your personal life?

First of all, I have resentment in my heart for everybody that succeeds in college college football. Yeah, Notre Dame, I have resentment for that.
That's why we've gotten along so well.

I have resentment for everybody. I haven't succeeded at all.
Anyone who enjoys their Saturday afternoons watching their team, I resent that. Not me, buddy.
Yeah. Me and you are in the same right now.

We actually probably had our best friendship year in terms of college football discussion because we were just on Saturdays and be like, well, this sucks.

We would just text each other like, this is it. Can you just wear this together, buddy? Can you walk us through Brandon Walker Day at Mississippi State? It was Texas.

It was amazing.

We got up and we went and walked through the tailgates and I had

some jambalaya and did all the tailgate food. And I got to hang out with Hardy, the country music guy.
You asked about Brandon Walker Day, and the first thing he talked about is eating. Yeah.

That's Brandon Walker Day. And we're walking around.
You know, we did the dog walk.

He's really

hungry every day his entire life.

Yeah, we're doing the things. Every day is Brandon Walker Day.
We're taking pictures. We're having fun.
You know, Hardy, and we go up 17. We're beating their ass.

What did you eat at the game? Oh, my God. I stayed in the president's suite.
Not president's suite. I was in the

press box? No, with the athletic director's suite. Okay.
And they had the best food up there. They had a pot of boiled peanuts, and I was just going back to boiled peanuts.

Every touchdown, and it was a high-scoring game. I kept going and getting a scoop of boiled peanuts and throwing the shells away.
It was great, great day. And then

there were some barrilla tacos. I had burrilla tacos and boiled peanuts.
Oh, that's great. Mississippi tacos.
Yeah, they were delicious. And then during the game.
That was during the game.

What happened at the end of the game? We were up 17 with nine minutes and 37 seconds left. I remember looking at the clock and saying, that clock's going a little too slow.

And I thought, this game's going to be close at the end. And I didn't know.
It was all good. It was all well and good.
It was 17. Then they cut it to 10.

Then they cut it to 7 with a field goal, I think.

And it's okay. I'm over there taking pictures with.
I saw Dwayne Jefferson's dad, Clyde, and Clyde's like, hey, come over here. How's your dad? And I said, he's dead.

And then I turn around as we're having that conversation, and I'm delivering to my dad's lifelong friend that my dad's been dead for two years. I turn around.
I hear him go, oh, no.

And the punt returner for Texas is streaking past us. And I just fell to my knees, and I knew no matter what.
He said, I got to get down to the end zone. Once they tied it.

Well, it was going to overtime. And I said, which end zone's overtime in? And they said that one.
I said, well, we've got to be down there for whatever happens. In case you can break up a play.

And I picked the exact spot. They threw that route.
And when it wasn't Arch, it was the backup quarterback.

The backup quarterback drops back and turns, and I swear to God, he looks at me, and he turns that ball loose, and I think he is throwing that directly to me. And at the time,

I don't think the receiver had even made his break yet. That was a great thing.
And I was like, there's no way that ball is going out of bounds. And the guy just comes out of nowhere.

And as soon as it touches his hands,

I knew he caught it. Did you think about breaking the play up?

You could have made a play. 46-year-old Brandon Walker getting arrested for hitting.

Also, if I try to hit him, he kills me. Yeah.
He just goes through me like tinfoil. You just high point the ball.
You go out there, maybe you switch. So I go for the ball, not hit.

So you're not saying separate the man from the ball. You're saying go get the ball.
I'm saying go get that ball. Make a play.
I don't know that I had the leaping ability or the inclination or the...

I don't know. Did you still have boiled peanuts on your breath? Oh, I had peanuts.
So at least you had that. Dan, I had peanuts in my pocket.
Oh, I love that. All right, so, Brandon,

by the way, that's the other thing about Texas. I know that we talked about them, and I don't think they should be in because they have three losses, and I get the Ohio State thing.

They went to overtime against Kentucky and Old Man or Mississippi State. Back-to-back weeks.
Right.

They had four road games in the SEC, a loss to 4-8 Florida, a blowout loss in Athens, two overtime games in Lexington and Starkville. That's not a playoff team.

And they also played, like, when they're like, oh, we shouldn't schedule anyone. Their other three games that they played that weren't Ohio State were no one.
They were no one, yeah.

And they were, they were average. They spent six weeks being an average team.
Right. And they took them a while.

Now, they're better now, and they're greatly positioned to go into next year with Arch as being way better than he was. He has developed like an actual quarterback usually does.

So I think they're in a great position going forward. But who do they play? We don't have enough room at the end right now.

Who do they play week one?

I don't think they return Ohio State. Oh, they don't? Do they go? I don't know.

I don't know if it's a true home-at-home back-to-back years. They might open with Ohio State at home.
That would be very funny. Let's see.

After all, I think it's one of those with a two-year gap in them. It's not.
Yeah, it's not Ohio State. Who do they have? Oh, no, they do.
They do have Ohio State at home. Okay, well, they're two.

So they open with a nobody and then they open open with Texas State and then they play Ohio State.

But I think they'll be pretty positioned to do well in that game. Also, if you win that game, like if they won that game, guess what? The Florida loss means nothing.
Yeah.

Okay, real quick, are you a little upset that you spent, you know, because we do the college football show together.

That was the other part of our year is that we were surrounded by Dave, Big Ev, and Casey, and it was Mississippi State and Wisconsin.

And we were just like, all right, we'll talk about all the other games. But are you a little upset? You spent

three, four years being Buckeye Brandon. Then you went to Penn State.

And then Ohio State finally embarrassed Michigan, and they embarrassed Michigan. Michigan acted a fool.
The fact that Michigan defended their logo is one of the lamest things I've ever seen.

The most pathetic thing I've ever seen. They spent, they had to have talked about it while the game was still going on.
Maybe even a halftime. Yeah.
So do you have a little bit of remorse there?

And also, would you like to say, which we asked you, I think in September, we've been saying it for a long time, have we not, PFT? This Ohio State team's better than last year's.

So that's the fallacy of Dave Fortnoy being around Dave Fortnoy. I was never a Buckeye Brandon.
I was never, I was simply anti-Michigan during the entire run.

I was simply anti, when everybody was saying J.J. McCarthy is the best quarterback in the world.
I was like, no, he's not. They're not even asking him to throw.

He's just handing off all the time. I'm not going to participate in this fiction that J.J.
McCarthy is Joe Montana by the team. J.J.
McCarthy was really good when they asked him to hand the ball off.

Correct. Did you see Max Max Brosner? They lost 200 yards in that season.
Did you see Max Brosner last weekend? It was awful. Nine looked pretty good.
That is not really.

What you saw was the absence of nine.

Nine is pretty good. Nine was a picture of Michigan gathering lonely at the amps.
He was just desperate for somebody to defend against. Listen, respect.

Well, Ohio State goes and celebrates with their fans. Respect.
Damn. This is what it's about, Brandon.
The final score. What about the grawl band that got on his ground

on the ground in front of 100,000 people to wipe up the snow where Brutus had put Ohio? Brutus dotted the eye. This is what college football is about.
The score is an afterthought.

No, the college football is about faith. But if you have a relationship with a dog, if you can protect your logo after the game, that's as good as a win.
So, so that's a grown man.

Are you ready to admit that Ohio State's better this year? They are. Okay.
Now. Could you want to say anything to me in PFT? But

I would like to say this. You want to apologize? No, but can I just say the point and then we'll see if I'm going to apologize or not?

I'm not sure if the improvement of Ohio State happened all this year. I think it might have started last year.

When they lost to Michigan, they took that two or three week break and came into the playoff, and something changed in them right then because they had four straight.

They had the most impressive playoff run we will ever see. They had four straight dominations, four straight double-digit victories over some legit teams last year.

So whatever happened at Michigan, they changed then. And now we have the full year manifestation of what they turned into at the end of last year.
Are you saying steroids?

No, I'm just saying Ryan Day locked the fuck in. Ohio State locked the fuck in.
But Julian Saiyan is way better than Will. They've won.

Julian Saiyan is better. The defense is just as good.
And that's the bigger shot because they lost so many good defensive players.

But, you know, Arville Reese turning into Superman, Caleb Downs being Caleb Downs, and then the defensive line just, you know, throwing four or five guys out last year to the NFL and then just bringing in four or five new guys that are going to go to the NFL.

It's just incredible. So you're taking away.
The defensive coordinator. They lost Jim Knowles to Penn State.
We're like, oh, my goodness.

Ohio State just lost both their coordinators and they upgraded. Matt Patricia, that was actually the real winner of this entire offseason, Matt Patricia.
I would agree with that.

For saying, no, thank you to UNC. I'll go to Ohio State.
Yeah.

Would you take Ohio State or the field?

Ohio State. Yeah.

I think there's legitimately.

I think they'll be tested. I think Georgia could test them.
I think Notre Dame, if they were given the opportunity, could test them.

Texas Tech is the big wild card here. Defensively, they definitely

can slow down, say, in, and they can put some pressure on them. But I don't know if they're going to be able to.
I don't know what Baron Morton's doing against that Ohio State defense.

I think there's probably three to four teams that can beat him, but it would take perfect.

I also think there is, I do subscribe to the theory that Ohio State has not gone into the ultimate gear that they have. No, but they also haven't been dragged into deep water at all.
Of course.

They haven't had a lot of time. Although that first quarter was,

that.

That was like a spot where Ryan Day was probably clenching a little bit. But the second Michigan

took out their gun in the first five minutes and shot it and barely pierced the skin of Ohio State, when they only scored six points

after having the ball down there twice, that game was over. What's up with the headbutting with the official? Did we get a clarification on that after the game?

I'm guessing the official just decided in his heart of hearts the guy was, I believe the Michigan player was trying to say, this is what they're doing to me, man. They're doing this.

And I think he knew there was no intent or malice, and that's why, because usually that's getting you kicked out every time. Yeah, the official had a very funny reaction when it happened.

He did the thing that refs do where they like very angrily reach down for their flag, yeah, and then they blow their whistle super hard.

Yeah, and then it seemed like cooler heads prevailed a little bit. Yeah, it just seemed like, I mean, if you headbutt a ref, yeah, it's always you used to always get kicked out for that.

I feel like touch a ref. I feel like that refs walk to the other refs calmed him down.
I think the other refs might have gotten mad at him after the game. Like, you set a bad precedent here, dude.

Well, they're going to be head-butting us all day. Yeah, stand up for yourself.
Cole Kniple. What would be your would you have a signature flag toss?

Do you think the best flag toss is taking it out and throwing it down? You think as much air as you go through my legs. You go through your legs? I go Gronk Spike.
Gronk spike.

Just down at the ground. I think throwing it 75 feet in the air and just waiting for it to fall before you even blow your whistles.

I also would, like, we saw that ref we were talking about on Monday's show, the ref trying to grab his flag and couldn't get it. I would keep it cocked at all times.
I wouldn't have it in my pocket.

I'd have it in my hand. You rule, if you can't get your flag out in the first two times, it's not a penalty.
Yeah, I agree. Can't pump fake on it.

Did you ever look at refs' hands and how they have their whistle and the little bands around his fingers? Oh, yeah.

You know what that's for? No. That's how they keep track of the down.
Oh, they put it. Oh, yeah.
First down, second down, third down. Yeah, yeah.
Why can't they just look at the sign? I don't know.

It's just a time-honored thing. Some things are just traditional.
That Colorado game.

I would lose my place all the time. Well, you struggle with that.
You also have fat fingers. I don't have fat.

I don't have. I have skinny fingers.
Actually, you know what? You kind of do. I have skinny fingers.
I have skinny appendages. You have a fat cock.
I have a narrow cock.

I have skinny appendages. I have narrow toes, narrow fingers, and a narrow cock.
You got a small nose, too. Cock's a number two.
Big fat cock, Brandon.

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What is, let's play out the doomsday scenario for the committee and how you would, how you would seed them or put them in. So, Ohio State, Indiana, Tex AM, Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss.

That's the seven, yeah. That's the seven.
What's the doomsday scenario this coming weekend, and then who gets in? The doomsday scenario has to start with Duke beating Virginia. Yeah.

Duke beating Virginia

is crazy.

You know, is

Alabama losing and BYU winning?

Okay. Because BYU winning now puts Texas Tech on the chopping block.
I think they would much rather have BYU on the chopping block with two losses because there's a lot more clarity there.

BYU wins, but Satake takes the Penn State job. Oh, my goodness.
You realize how many teams we might have in this playoff with new coaches or with interim coaches? Yeah.

So, all right, so let's say this happens. Let's say Duke beats Virginia.
But can I ask a question? Is Duke winning a doomsday scenario? Because they might sneak Duke in.

Duke winning forces either two G5s

or it forces Duke in. But

if Duke doesn't, if Duke doesn't win, it's just Virginia. That's not just Virginia.

Yeah. So we're getting.

It's a doomsday scenario for the ACC. We're getting a G5 team and an undeserving ACC champ or two G5 teams.
Yes. All right.

I don't.

You can get to this in the doomsday. I don't think that they'd put Duke in.
I think that would be asking a lot. You think they'd put both Tulane and JMU in?

I think they would because Duke, I mean, come on. Tulane without a coach.

Yes. All right.
So here's the dude. Or UNT.
I think UNT actually jumps JMU if they beat Tulane. So BYU wins, Alabama wins.

That's the doomsday scenario. Yeah, because I think it puts Texas Tech on the chopping block, and they have a better, I think they have a better look to them than BYU does.

I feel like the committee, if BYU loses, can go into that room

if they so choose, can lose BYU, no problem. Now,

the scariest spot for this committee to be in, no matter who gets in, Oklahoma, if it comes down to spot number 12, Notre Dame or Miami. One's getting in, one's not getting in.

I believe the committee thinks Notre Dame is a better team. Yeah, so actually that's not.
BYU and Alabama winning is not the doomsday because then it would just be Oklahoma, Alabama, BYU.

And they'd keep Notre Dame and Miami out. Yeah.
So their doomsday comes when they have to choose between Notre Dame and Blacks. Correct.
So it's actually. If they can get them both in, great.

If they can get them both out, great. It's more Alabama winning, BYU losing, and then it would be between Notre Dame and Miami for that last year.

So then it becomes between BYU, Miami, and Notre Dame. Yeah, but BYU would say they're out in the middle.
And say BYU is out, and then it becomes...

And I truly think the committee, if you gave them true serum, who's the better team? They would say Notre Dame. I think they would be beholden to put Miami in.
They would have to. Yeah.

You played the game. Yeah, because they would be setting themselves up for a future of agony of every time something like this comes up.
Well, you know it's going to 16.

Yeah, but because that's what they do. But it's just, then we're just going to have different discussions.
I agree. Yeah, I agree.
And at this point, if you don't make it.

And if you don't make it, it's on you. It's on you.
Like Texas, it's on you. But listen, 8, 12, whatever.
Last year, we had a 12-team playoff. We did not have enough good teams for 12.

This year, Ripple. This year, we got 15.
We got 16. There's not a perfect number.
And you just got to deal with it. However, you're going to deal with it every year.

That's why this committee is going to get a lot of money. You're going to have to make some hard decisions, dude.
Just fucking do it.

Is there a way that they kick out Oklahoma and they keep Notre Dame and Miami? If Oklahoma hadn't beat Alabama, yes. But that Alabama win is doing a lot of work for Oklahoma.

That Alabama road win is doing a lot of work. If Alabama loses.
Look at that.

Look at Brandon talking about Oklahoma. That win wind gets worse.
Max. I didn't do anything.
Why are you looking at me? He asked me about Oklahoma there. I just can't stop talking about it.

You were talking about it. You were talking.
You opened the entire door of this playoff.

Every Oklahoma from here on out because you brought him up. There's not a world you can talk about the 12-team play.
It's still the same Oklahoma that you brought up the first time.

But there's not a world you can talk about the 12-team playoff without talking about Oklahoma.

We've stopped talking, though. Yeah, we've done it.
Can I ask you one crazy hypothetical? And I want to take my bias out and just ask you guys. Oh, I know where you're going.

Is there any world?

Listen,

like I said, 15 teams for 12 spots. Let's go in.

Do they have a discussion about OMS? About not having their offensive coaching staff, about not having Lane Kifflin? I personally don't think they do, but is that a world?

No, they're trying to make it. I bet you there's one guy in this room who's going to be like, hey, should we talk about this? And then they'd be like, nah.
Okay.

That will probably be the extent of it.

We blew it.

They killed us on Friday. If we beat OMS, 10-2, OMS without a coach is not getting the playoff.
They would be on the chopping block. But at 11-1,

they've got enough leeway where they're going to be fine. You had your chance.
Yeah. You blew it.

We didn't even blow it. They just killed us.
Somebody might bring it up inside that room.

They don't say. They can bring up everything.
They understand that

if they do that, then the entire premise of having a coach football player. I also don't think what you're about to say is disingenuous.
What? Well,

I was about to say that OMS beat Oklahoma, so you couldn't

beat Oklahoma. But I think the people saying, well, they kept Florida State out.
That was a four-team playoff. No,

these are not constant quarterbacks. I think if Olemes lost their starting quarterback, I think they would probably have the discussion.

They're going to lose the starting quarterback as soon as their game ends because Lane's going to call him. Oh, imagine if Lane.
Lane might send the plane back to Omega.

Imagine if Lane got Chambliss out before the playoff committee. That'd be amazing.
Like this week he got him out. Imagine he wouldn't do that.

He wants that money. Yeah.
I don't. What if LSU paid him $2 million to get Chambliss? $2 million for a a quarterback.

For a starting quarterback. If I were Lane Kiffen in Lane Kiffen's shoes right now,

I would take Chambliss

right now, and then I would say, I'm going to donate any extra bonuses I get from Ole Miss winning in the playoffs. Yes.

And I'm going to donate it to the Children's Hospital in Baton Rouge so that it just circles back

to my team anyway. I'll donate the winnings back to the NIA to

some disadvantaged youth out there that happen to be five-star recruits. Yeah, they've done that before.
Everything about them is okay. I love LSU.
Yeah. LSU is a fun player.

Oh, you're talking about old Miss again. Yeah.
They once recruited a five-star about adopting him and then making a movie about it. It was all fake.
It was all fake. The entire thing was fake.

No, no, I'm not. I'm talking.
I've never seen the movie, but it was all fake. Wait, so you've never seen the movie, but you know it's fake.
I've read the book. The actual play,

the guy involved texted me and said, this is all bullshit.

He sent that? Yeah, to me. Nah.
Yeah. Awesome.
Ben Mintz?

All right.

Michael Orr? Huh? Yes.

Well, Brandon, it's been a delight having you on the show. I don't.

Always. We love having you.
Is this my last time? Big Fat Cock, Brandon. Well, I don't think you're going to be the college football expert anymore, Brandon.
Seth didn't do anything for me.

Everyone in the chat, fat cocks. Pull up that spreadsheet.

What can they do to

seeds? Big eggplants in the chat for Brandon. Got fat cock.
Yeah. Let's do fat cocks.

Okay, so you still have. No, I'm done.
There's nothing I can do. You got Texas.
He's Oregon. He got Oregon.

I got Oregon. Yeah,

that was a bad effort. So what would

you do? What are you doing different next year?

There's like four or five teams.

What lessons have you learned? Because you've been wrong a lot this year. Not really.
Between this spreadsheet

and Lane Kiffin. Yeah,

no Oklahoma.

No miss. I was never going to pick on.
I'm keeping Texas as empty for you. That's generous.
I'm being

a bitch with that. No, they're not in.
You can make that random.

You don't have to. to they're they're in the conversation yeah

we're having the conversation yeah we're having the conversation also brandon what what if uh the committee just said you know what lane kiffin leaving ole miss that's a problem lane lane is a great coach you said yourself brandon one of the top five coaches in in football what if they put lsu in because now they have lane kiffen what was i doing i don't know i picked lsu penn state i i i believed in penn state that was wrong Boise State, you know, whatever.

It's actually funny, too, because Tom picked the team you believed in the most in Clemson.

no i believed in penn state the most i had penn state picked as your your four your four finalists this year before the season were penn state clemson lsu

and arizona state

i don't know if i was made that last yeah i i was i was i i wasn't big on arizona state because i knew we were going to beat them so i i don't know about that one um one last last question how many last questions uh this is the last last one all right uh michigan yeah sure they were number one on your list of fan bases you don't like it felt like that was just mostly about dave portnoy It is.

What are they going to do with their coaching situation?

So, you know, there's a lot of stuff out there. I personally choose not to believe it because if it were that big of a deal, it would have already happened.

I think they're going to go into next season with a lame duck coach, a bad coach.

They are a poorly coached football team for 2025. I think fundamentally, and they have a good approach, and if

they have the talent advantage on a team, they're going to beat them. But when they're up against these Ohio states of the world, these high-scoring offenses in 2025, they just

go into a gunfight with a knife. They just can't do it.

And Sharon Moore is, they're wasting their time with Sharon Moore as a head coach, and they wasted their money on Bryce Underwood, $12 million, to never even try to develop the kid into a passer.

They never even gave him a chance this year.

If you're going to throw a young guy out there, let him chunk it down the field and make his mistakes. They didn't even let him do it.
You know what? I'd like to see. What would you like to see?

I'd like to see John Harbaugh.

John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh.
John Harbaugh in Michigan. John Harbaugh in the middle.
Continuing the Harbaugh. Continuing the lineage.

Oh, Charlie Weiss is returning to Olemis as offensive coordinator to coach the playoffs. So there goes that discussion.

They didn't lose their offensive coordinator.

Charlie Weiss? What do we

know who that is? Jr. Nobody knows who that is.

I'm still mad at you, though, because you kept Bill Glasscock.

I didn't know you want to know about Bill Glasscock. I mean, the guy's name is Glasscock.
How do you not tell us that's Billy Glasscock? He's the key to Lane Kip of Success. Glasscock.
Yeah.

Yeah, he's just right-hand man. How weird is Scott Strickland?

If you weird out Lane Kippen, you're a weird dude. No, why again are we believing everything Lane Kippen says? I choose to believe.
Lane Kippen's a weird guy. Believe all lanes.

Lane Kippen fake the dog, Dan. Believe all Lanes.
I believe Scott Strickland has a dog, and it is his dog. Scott Strickland is a normal guy.
Not a very good Atlanta director, but he's a normal guy.

He weirded out Lane Kiffen. That's weird.
I believe all Lanes. All right, Brandon Walker, our college football expert for another month and a half.
Farewell. Farewell.

We'll have you on right before to hand over your trophy and your belt and everything. The key.
For key to the city.

Yeah. All right.
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And now, FAQs. Okay, FAQs time.

Wrap up the show. Henry?

Who is an athlete you would die on a hill for? For example, I'll always defend Jokeem Noah despite people not liking his jump shot slash free throw ability. Jokeim's high up there.

Schwarber.

Where's he going to go? I don't know.

This feels like A. Reds.
Cincinnati. He wants people to.
Yeah, he wants to be courted. I don't blame him.
But I was big on dying on a hill and Schwerber because

his defense was not great when he started. This was before the DH.

So I was big time.

It's fine. It doesn't matter the way he hits bombs.
You can deal with the defense. So, like, had to do a lot of defending of that.
I would say, Drake May.

You die on a hill for Drake. But I think they were asking for someone who has a flaw in their game.
Oh, okay.

300. Yeah, it's a big time flaw.
Hank, that's very brave of you. Thank you.
You must get a lot of shit for that.

I would say, I mean, Tom Wilson. Tom Wilson, I die on several hills for him every year.

I do think that he is targeted by the NHL. I think he's targeted by refs.

I think that any other team in hockey would kill to have Tom Wilson play for them because he's not only just like a fucking bruiser and a mountain of a dude, but he's very skilled, can score goals, one of the best goal scorers in the league.

I love Tom Williams. Future face of this league.
Future face of this league.

Yeah.

I loved it when he broke his cheek. And he scored two goals looking like

he had the mumps. And then that was the same day that Joelle Embiid was out for like three months because he broke his face.

That was a perfect day for me.

What do you guys pick? Embede? Embiid's the easy answer.

My favorite answer, though, people don't remember.

Hot in the streets

when I was

13, people hated Ryan Howard because they thought that he struck out too much.

And I was a big die on my hill for Ryan Howard, and I thought he got way too much hate in Philly. I was like that with Javi Baez, too, because he struck out a lot and couldn't.

And yeah, he struck out a lot. Ryan Howard struck out a lot, too.
But I fucking love Ryan Howard. And if you look back at some of Ryan Howard's seasons, he just had video game stats.
Yeah.

Zach memes?

Chad Pennington. Oh, noodle arm.
Elite. He was, I mean, he was a good quarterback.
Noodle arm. Elite.
But the noodle arm. No.
He sling it.

Well,

but he didn't. His arm.

He was good.

Who could throw it forward? We're doing it right now. We're doing the argument.
Chad Pennington or Tua? Tua.

You think Tua could outgun him? I think he could outgun him. No way.

We need to settle this.

Didn't Chad Pennington get hurt, and that's why his arm

was zapped? He never had the strongest arm. And he had, yeah, a bad shoulder, and that made it worse.
Also, put this in the bookmarks, Hank, for Friday's show.

Tua at the Jets on Sunday in the cold. Tua Fingers?

It's going to be chilly in New York, and he's 0-7 in his career below 46 degrees. Love that.

Let's just remember to talk about that. Also, I just reminded me of Michael Irvin.
Did you guys see his tweet about the big hit last night? Yeah, that was

all-time Michael Irvin. Oh, the when it was cold? No.
The big hit you just saw in the game between the Patriots and the Giants are the kind of hits all caps. We had to take on every damn play,

just trying to enlighten the young NFL fans who never saw passes caught, COU, GHT,

where great pain lived. Every pass caught where great pain lived.
Yeah, I love this. I love this because, yeah,

the game was pretty violent back then. It's pretty violent now.
Yeah, but it was more violent for sure. Every damn play.
There would be a hit like that every play.

I still laugh every now. Like, probably once a month, I just think about the random Jets fan giving, showing two of fingers to Jake.
Yeah. Just

being so beaten, like, shook up about it. Shattered his innocence.

Okay.

What's up, Big Cat and PFT? Would you all take it if the Bears and Commanders played every year, winner always makes NFC title games, loser season always becomes a disaster?

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that would be kind of cool. Absolutely.
Making the NFC championship game is awesome. Listen.

If you had asked me before that draft, would you take one NFC championship game in the next five years? I would be like, fuck yeah.

The amount of misery that we've had rooting for our shitty franchises, it makes you compromise on a lot of stuff, and your expectations are very low. So yes, I would 100% take that.

The only thing I would not take is

it'd have to change when the game is played every single day. Like it can't just be like week three.
I would want there to be a little bit more leeway. Where we both have some belief.
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like if it goes year to year, you don't play at the same time every single year.
So, there's some years where it's like, okay, we would play week one and the season would be over for one of us.

Some years we play week 16 and we just have belief the whole way, Thanksgiving, yeah, do it on Thanksgiving every year. I'd be okay with that, yeah.

In a hypothetical world, you have to pick one team in any sport to all root for together as a podcast. Which team would it be?

We should do this. That'd be funny if we picked, like, if we just became a huge

columbus blue jacket i don't know what would be yeah um like we could just do that with the mls and not even care about it oh we could do that with the mls should we get the water dogs oh yeah good point good point you guys want to do premier league nah nah that's too early

too many games i'm trying to think

yeah we could do pull up mls teams real quick let's pick an mls team that we're gonna just ride for yeah the whole squad do we just ride inner miami because they just get every guy at the end of their career?

Let's just, yeah, let's just become the biggest

fans of this team. All right.

There are way more MLS teams than the boss. That's holy.
Holy shit.

Holy fuck. That's so many teams.

Let's see.

What's the most random city that they have in there? Charlotte?

Yeah, we could do Charlotte.

What are they? We're not going to do this. Let's not not pretend.

We were just saying.

No, we just didn't say it.

What about Colorado? It'd be nice if we'll go to Colorado or San Diego.

San Diego, yes. There's a San Diego FCC.
Yeah, San Diego, San Diego. Yeah, San Diego FC.

I'm in on San Diego. We're the biggest San Diego FC guys in the world.
That's all they. They talked enough shit about the union.
I don't care. That's right.

When they come play in Chicago next year, we got to go. I think we should go there, show our support.
I agree with Hank.

Be one with San Diego. Be one with pitch.
You want to feel that grass under your feet. Yeah.

Love that. Love the FC.

Most

least original game of all time. I cannot believe that there's this many.
How many FCs are there? There's so many. Grow up.

Pick a fucking logo. I agree.
Well, they have logos. And they have SCs too.
Yeah. Which is crazy.
So dumb.

It's also just.

It's not American. Football.
Yeah. But why are we trying to be like England? Like, why are we FC? Just pick a name.
Like, with Real Salt Lake? Yeah. You're in Utah.
How come you're not in the FCC?

You're not in Madrid? Some of them say FC and some of them say football club.

It's just got to be one or the other. Oh, I kind of like Orlando City.

Orlando City? What are they called? We go to the Chilies. They're just going to

go to Orlando City. Shit.
A lot of golf in Orlando. Orlando City might be.
I think we go Orlando. I am golfing in Orlando in February.
I mean, cheaper flights. Orlando City.

Let's see the logo for Orlando City real quick. Give me Orlando City.
I don't even know where that is. Just click on them.

I can Florida. I can't see.
We're going to go logo. We're going to go.

It's a logo. Oh, that could be a lot of fun.
It looks like it's too. It's a good one.
Okay, now show us San Diego's.

I kind of like Orlando.

What's the logo? Oh, that's sick.

It's like you hate San Diego. All right.
San Diego looks kind of like a butthole. All right.
It's just like, if it's

look at that. If it's odd, we're doing San Diego.
If it's even, we're doing Orlando. Okay.
Fuck.

These are two, like,

blob, impenetrable cities.

Safety from the blob. Even Orlando FC got off.

Why?

Why did I see it?

What? The fireball machines kept lighting up right there. Uh-oh.

Signs.

There was like an LED light stream going on. Hey, that's cool.
Is Orlando won anything? I don't think Orlando's won anything. I feel like we would go to the right.

Do we have any others?

It looked like. I thought

oh, it's the same owners as the Vikings. Did we have that on the oh, the Wilfs? Yeah, the Wolfs.
We can end on that. Okay, well, let's wait.
Is there another one that you don't want to read, Hank?

They're not great. Okay, let's just see.

Let's see if we've ever won anything.

Us Orlando FC guys. I guess this is a book plug.
What's going on as an AWL that joined after the move to Chicago?

I'd love to hear more about the backstory of the change to the new office and how that all went down. Book.
Book. Book.
It'll be all in the book. Book.

Also, dock on YouTube.

But book. But book, yeah.

Oh, wait. We're held back on the dock for the book.
Kingston is our mascot. Sean Kingston?

He's an

anthropomorphiz. How do you say that word? Anthropomorphized.
Anthropologist. Anthropomorphized and bulked up lion complete with brown and purple dreadlocks.
Hey, that rocks.

Dude, I'm in on the Orlando FC. Combination.
Fuck it. Disqualification.
I do not think we've ever won anything.

I don't think we've ever won anything, which is good. That's my PFT tip of the day.
If you ever just want to have fun saying a word, say disqualification, Jamaican accent. You won't regret it.

Disqualification. Yeah, see? Disqualification.

Okay.

Hold on.

Disqualification.

Take it for a spin. Disqualification.

PFT, we've actually had this conversation before, which is not shocking.

No, it's like I can get I have to say companion, and then PFT automatically falls up with disqualification.

That's my version of.

I do not think we've ever won the whole thing. This is too much MLS talk.
I'm over it already. We have won the whole thing.
We've got the whole sports podcast. We've won the whole thing.
2022. MLS.

Yeah, we're really hitting all the stops today.

PLL. We've hit it.
Orlando.

NBA, NFL, MLB. We hit them all.
All right.

NHL.

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