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Hello, and welcome to our newest supplemental concept idea, Regulation Takes.

I am hosting this.

I can't believe it.

I am joined alongside Eric, Gavin, and Nick.

I'm excited to hear some takes.

Let me explain the takes format before we get going.

We have all prepared takes, which are stances and which we feel passionate about.

We will...

Share our takes one at a time.

I'm not sure how many we'll do.

This is the first time we're doing it.

Who knows how long this is going to be?

We'll have to figure that out.

You'll see.

I guess you'll know going into it.

You'll see the timer, but we don't know.

So we'll all say our takes.

Then after this comes out, I will put out a poll on our Patreon, which is the regulation pod.

And you can vote on who had the worst take.

And whoever has the worst take or takes gets the idiot flag.

Till the next episode.

Dean the Idiot.

But it's not a draft.

It's not a draft.

No.

I'll be honest.

I was like 80% sure you were somehow going to call a blind side and we'll be doing fucking ratty

because this sounds like a fake idea.

Oh, this is so far from a fake idea.

This is like the most popular idea in any show format ever.

Yeah, this is a I could tell it was a real Andrew idea because this is the closest we're going to get to like sports

meteor.

You know what I mean?

Like this is so close to hot take, first take, like that kind of thing that I it read is true to me all the way.

Well, until we do a March Madness bracket.

Right.

True.

Yeah, but this is again not a draft.

The first thing Gavin asked when he got here today, is this a draft?

We reassured him, no, it's not.

The pool is takes.

Yeah, yeah, the pool is takes, but

also there's no real pool because it's not a draft.

So, Andrew, how many takes are, I mean, we'll go one at a time, but how many takes are we going to be giving each?

Well, that's the thing.

I don't know how long it'll take for us to go through everybody's takes.

It'll be interesting to see.

So, maybe we'll do one each.

Maybe we'll do two each.

We will state our take, and then

you can sort of defend, or maybe people just agree.

And that's the support of the take.

This is a thing I largely wanted to do because I have a take that I think about all the time that I don't know how else to put it.

Like, there's this can't be a draft, this isn't really a podcast subject.

So, I had to create a show around

being able to discuss this take.

I have an opinion.

I need a show first.

I have an opinion.

We need a vehicle to discuss this opinion.

It's an opinion I have not heard often.

But how do we determine the order of delivering these takes?

Well, you should go first because you built a show around your takes.

Yeah, I absolutely think you should go first.

I think we could also go in Discord order, which is just our names in order here, which appears to be alphabetical.

So maybe we just go that way.

And

we'll see how it goes.

Now, you mentioned a timer.

Is there a timer?

No, no, not a timer for the take, but I just know maybe like somebody's take will take four minutes to do.

Maybe somebody's will take

ahead.

Like I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to run a time.

No, no, no.

You don't have to.

This isn't like a strict debate format or anything.

I don't know.

Gavin didn't even know if this was a draft or not.

So I just don't kind of ask.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really?

Gavin rebuttal.

Yeah.

Andrew, why don't you lead us off with your first take?

My first take is something I think about all the time.

It's a weird thing to think about all the time.

I'll acknowledge that.

But it is something I think about quite frequently.

My first take is that Taylor Kitch deserves better.

Taylor Kitch has one of the worst acting careers in modern times.

And I don't think it's his fault at all.

I think he's pretty good.

I think he's a solid actor.

He was on Friday Night Lights, which is incredibly popular.

And he has a run of things that just like were terrible, but not terrible because it was his fault.

My first example of this is he got to be Gambit and X-Men Origins Wolverine.

He was Gambit.

And he was fine.

He was a guy as Gambit.

But that movie was terrible.

And like nothing expanded beyond that.

It was a weird thing to read about the history of it where they always wanted Shanning Tatum, but he was always busy.

And so they booked him because it's like, he wasn't available.

But they gave him a three-movie deal, deal which did not happen there was only a singular cameo because nobody liked x-men origins wolverine yeah a beloved character in a beloved series of films i think this is the most hated one by far oh he just happened to be in the worst wolverine that they could possibly make you created an entire show for that take

no i'm not done i'm not done let me establish more right to and to be fair it will still be the same take as he continues to argue argue this.

So the answer is that you're not going to be able to do that.

I'm just solidifying the take.

Right.

And so the answer to all your question is yes, Gavin.

We often talk about 1994, amazing Jim Carrey year.

One of the best years

for any actor.

Three absolute bangers.

Taylor Kitch had maybe the worst version of that, where he had a...

2012

John Carter from Mars, Battleship, and Savages.

Yeah.

All three of those.

Not his fault.

Yep.

John Carter was terrible.

It was just like a soulless CG.

It just was weird.

There's no heart to it.

Nobody came out of John Carter looking good.

Battleship, absolute disaster.

Just a terrible film.

Not his fault.

Savages, an Oliver Stone movie that had like all the pieces to be good.

Like you'd understand from the outside wanting to be in an Oliver Stone movie as the lead.

All the acting in that movie is great all around.

Just a really dumb, bad story.

Yeah, not great.

Savages has like Benicio del Toro and Aaron Taylor Johnson and stuff.

It has like a bunch of people.

It is a weird thing where I would argue he was the only one impacted by the failure of Savage.

100%.

Because

John Carter was like this also $300 million Disney movie that was terrible.

It just, nobody saw it.

It was a huge flop.

It was a summer flop for Taylor Kitch.

And I feel like that completely broke the wings off of what his career trajectory could be.

But he had to fade into the distance.

And so he was, he went, he went quiet for a little bit, off the grid.

He went dark.

He then came back.

I mean, he had Lone Survivor, which was like, it was fine.

But then he got booked on True Detective season two.

True Detective.

The biggest show of that year.

Everyone's loving it.

It's a critical darling.

They're running it back for season two.

Everyone's so excited.

And then everybody hated season two.

It is the worst reviewed season of True Detective with a 61%.

Once again, he was totally fine.

And he was good, I would say.

Good performance by Taylor Kitch.

Just everything he touches is the worst version of that thing, but it is in no way his fault.

He should be in most of the action roles that John Krasinski has had in like the last five years.

Like, he should be so much better in all these sorts of things.

I'm not saying that he's an Oscar-winning actor and that he should have been in these epic dramas, but like any kind of generic John Krasinski action movie, I think he would have been significantly better at.

Oh, I think that he's the reason his career is what it is is because of Aaron Taylor Johnson.

He that that role is filled by Aaron Taylor Johnson.

If Aaron Taylor Johnson did not exist, this guy's working.

This guy's working everything without him.

It has been an interesting one.

He's had to go on like Netflix type series and he's building things back up.

But I just think it's such a weird career where everything that he did, like I understand, accepting and being like, yeah, I'm going to be in a fucking Wolverine movie.

I'm going to be in this.

I'm going to be the lead of a Disney epic for like 400 million, like a huge box office movie.

But none of it worked and none of it was his fault.

And I just think that's incredibly fascinating.

The king of good franchise, like stick out stinkers.

Like he's always in the most dog shit version of the actual product.

Absolutely.

And

I just, I think it's such a fascinating career trajectory.

If you gave me an infinite amount of time and 500 million different guesses on what your take was going to be, I still wouldn't have come up with this.

No, no, absolutely.

So he created a show, Gavin.

He created a show so he can explain this to us.

I think everyone is going to have fun takes.

It's just, I think about Taylor Kitch's career a lot.

Guy I've never heard of in a bunch of movies and shows I've never seen.

Deserves better.

You tell me you're not a big Friday Night Lights head?

Never seen it.

You weren't into the Texas high school football team drama?

I guess not.

Crazy.

I guess it never spoke to me.

It was great.

I'd highly recommend the show.

There's an actor in the show that feels like he's not an actor and they just made a show around him.

And he's wonderful.

Highly recommend it just for his performance alone.

Not Taylor Kitch, but he runs like a car dealership and he's great.

Taylor Kitch is also very good in the show.

But that is my take.

Taylor Kitch deserves so much better than he got.

And I'm happy to see that he's getting a little bit of a resurgence.

I think Taylor Kitch is exactly where he probably needs to be.

I don't think that there's...

I'm not clamoring for, dude, the other guy from the Savages to be in.

Because you didn't get to see him in those roles.

That's what I'd argue.

I think he could be a dynamic, fun action star, and we just never got that.

I think that if TV was still around, this guy would be Spike TV

hero of whatever show is on Spike TV.

This is a cable actor.

That is what this guy reads to me.

I mean, that's that's fair.

I mean, that's certainly where he's found his most success.

Yeah.

But I think he deserves it.

He was Gambit.

He was Gambit for four minutes.

He was Gambit.

Four minutes of Gambit.

I guess I have seen him as Gambit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's

yeah.

And like, I feel like he's the only person from like this Deadpool Wolverine era that we're in where they're bringing everybody back.

He's never going to get brought back.

No.

Well, did they bring back the guy who was the blob?

No.

What about Will I Am?

Will I Am wasn't in anything else?

No.

Should your take be that Will I Am should be in more X-Men movies?

No.

I didn't think he was that good.

Oh, but Taylor Kitch was?

Yeah, he was fine.

He was solid.

I think you should edit Taylor Kitch's next reel.

Yeah.

I think you should reach out and see if Taylor Kitch has any hot takes he wants to give, because I bet you could get him.

I'll see what I can do.

Maybe you can help him get on an Australian morning show.

Yeah.

He's nice just promoting, he's promoting our podcast.

Yeah, dude.

I think he'd, if it was based on how it worked with Gavin, he'd be promoting Friday Night Lights the show.

How did it all start?

How'd you get into acting?

Oh, man.

Well, that's my take.

Eric.

That's crazy.

What is your take if we're going in Discord order?

Your take was so interesting.

I don't find mine to be as interesting, but I feel kind of dumb.

Yeah.

No, no, I don't, I definitely don't feel dumb.

I definitely feel like,

I don't know.

We'll see how my takes.

I'm not sure I did this right.

No.

I'm so excited to get to Gavin's.

My take

is that the take of

there are too many podcasts is a hack take from people who would kill to have a podcast.

Ooh, You hear it all the time.

There are too many podcasts.

We should put tariffs on podcast equipment.

It is, it's a, it's a hack, it's a hack take from hack people who it's, it's the low-hanging fruit, it's the easy punching bag.

Do I love how many podcasts there are?

No, but

the more podcasts that come out, the more listening hours are consumed monthly, month on month,

since podcasts have become a large source of entertainment.

I don't think there are too many podcasts.

I don't think it should discourage anyone from starting a podcast.

I think anyone

with some ideas and everything can do this.

I think that it's a lot easier to have the take online of there are too many podcasts than there are to try it yourself and see if you're successful.

That's where that take comes from.

And if you were to give those people microphones, they couldn't fucking wait to make three episodes and abandon it.

That is the

true way of podcasts is that.

I think just because they are so popular and trending in such a big way, it's just an easy thing to say, but nobody really truly believes it by and large.

That's that is that's my take.

Yeah.

How many podcasts do you work on?

I have right now.

Well, Good Morning Gus is

actually coming out right now.

So there's one, 100% eat, and there's this one.

We have creating character, which we can change.

Yeah, I didn't say promote them all.

I'm just looking for a number here.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, we can say four.

I think four feels good.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I agree with the take only because like I think it's a weird situation in which, sure, there are too many podcasts, but like, who cares?

Like, why?

And there's also too much TV and too much radio.

Yeah.

It's on all the time.

Everything's on all the time.

Yes.

I think that the there's too many podcast thing is just an easy thing to like tweet out and be like, that's right.

I'm above this.

And it's like, okay.

I will say there are a lot of the same guy making the same podcast there.

There are.

There are.

There's also a lot of YouTube channels.

And I think having the take in 2025 that there's too many YouTube channels is the same thing.

as there are too many podcasts, but that'll be in the next few years when the next sort of wave of whatever entertainment comes out.

I don't think it's necessarily so groundbreaking or really correct that there are too many podcasts.

I think that shouldn't discourage anyone from picking up a mic and giving it a try.

That doesn't mean you're absolved from consequences of things.

It just means that I don't think that there are too many.

I think there's a lot more stories to be told out there that people could be doing or saying.

I think three guys who just went to a

like a bar and coming home and then they don't have anything to say, but then get on a mic, that's what people people think a podcast is, but that's not necessarily what you get from a lot of this stuff.

So, that's my take.

There are not actually too many podcasts.

I think it's also a thing of like what you expect to get out of the podcast that you're making.

Yeah.

Like, if you're, let's say, maybe there's a philosophical thing of like, I'm going to get into podcasting and make a ton of money.

That is not an easy or like a realistic thing to expect.

There are so many podcasts, like, just the, I mean, that is like a, from a budgetary or like a marketing standpoint of ads and all that, like, sure.

But if you're just making a podcast because you want to do it and you think it would be fun, like, it seems absurd to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no too many.

Can't do it.

Not allowed.

That's how I feel about it.

That's my take.

I do respect the person that's making it also having that take, though, because I feel that way a lot of the time of like making a show and then being like, why the fuck am I doing this?

I got nothing of interest to say.

I don't, this,

more qualified people should be making these things it is wild that i can just do this but yeah but anyone can and i think that's what's i think that's what's cool about it is that anyone can oh totally absolutely it is very it is very like 2009 youtube yes to go out there

to do it because without without podcasts how would we know about jack's exotic bird that's such a good point the world would know you all would just have to hoard that knowledge yeah yeah we would have to just like the 20 people at that party would know about Jack's exotic bird and not so, so, so many more.

And I need as many people as possible to know about Jack's exotic bird.

And that's the magic of podcasts.

It really is.

I'm so excited for when we record our next episode.

I watched a movie and it opened up a whole new thing of lore for me that I'm very excited to share.

It's fun.

It's fun.

Sort of a joy of podcasting is you will do something for yourself and then it will create an opportunity to discuss something in a way you never anticipated.

Yeah.

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Well,

Gavin, those are our first two takes.

What about you?

What takes do you have?

If you manage to fit it in your asshole, you should be allowed to smuggle it.

Okay.

Interesting.

very interesting.

But you've got some trouble talking about

in your anus.

Uh-huh.

It should just be anything goes in the anus.

Interesting.

Okay.

So if I

if I'm bringing in a bunch of drugs and they catch me, let's say, but it's in my anus, I am no longer going to be penalized for attempting to smuggle drugs.

Yeah, I mean, you put it in your own anus.

You went through the trouble of that.

They're yours.

Is there a consideration, though, that putting something in an anus is maybe too easy to be an immunity spot?

It's sort of like a bag.

I mean, you got a lot of runway there.

You could lube it up.

Like, it depends on.

I guess what I'll say to that is that's big talk from someone who's not doing it.

Oh,

I guess, I don't know.

I just, I feel like, here's the thing.

And this is going in a direction that I didn't anticipate going.

I've had some pretty massive shits which give me

a concept of what's possible in there.

I've never, I'm not putting things in.

I'm just putting stuff.

I just don't agree.

I just don't agree.

No, no.

I feel like it doesn't deserve complete immunity.

You feel like you would have an advantage because you could smuggle a much bigger item than me?

I don't think it's like, I'm not bragging or anything.

I'm not saying I have an abnormal...

like anus stretchability.

I'm not like fantastic for

anally,

but I do think that it might be, I don't know, it feels like it could be too, I don't know, it's an interesting take.

What were you thinking of smuggling?

I just, there's a lot of people getting their anuses looked at by other people, innit?

Sure.

Getting stuff taken from their own anus.

I just feel like that should be a safe space for people.

You can't smuggle a lot.

It's not like you could smuggle a boatload of heroin, just enough for you.

I think you'd be surprised how much heroin.

Yeah, I don't know how much you're going to be.

It'd probably be quite a bit.

I think it would be a lot.

I think it'd be like a lot more than you think it would be in that case.

Let's say then that it's only for the stuff that went up.

It's not for the stuff you swallowed.

What?

I didn't even think about what you're saying, but like, I assume that was a rule.

I assume it has to be the entry point of anal as opposed to swallowing.

Yeah, because you can swallow a lot more than you can put up.

At that point, your take would just be anything inside of you is fair game.

what are you i'm confused i'm confused about what could be swallowed that you would smuggle heroin well no because i think your stomach would definitely break that down and you would die yeah you don't swallow the raw heroin you would put it in a johnny wouldn't you right but even even still you don't think like the the risk of swallow i just don't think it would pass through you that was a movie

where like

i think there was a thing where like i've definitely seen a thing where someone swallowed a bunch of heroin and one of the bags burst that yeah that's what I'm talking about.

Is that and like, I just feel like the risk of swallowing it and it bursting his way is so much higher than just sticking it up.

I, because I agree.

I think if you swallow it, no fair game.

But if you put it up, fair game.

I wouldn't be using it for drugs, though.

I'd be using it just to avoid importing something.

Like what?

Like what?

Yeah.

I don't know.

It's like a small but high-value item.

I know.

Like

if I had a fancy ring or something, I'd put it in my ass.

And then I wouldn't have have yeah like say i went to a place where the ring was cheaper to buy i'd buy it pop it in my ass and travel back with it just couldn't you just wear it that's a bad example uh

are you just are you just trying to put stuff what are you talking about what about

christopher walking did it yeah christopher walking did do it you put a watch in his ass yeah in pulp fiction oh the whole monologue yeah um

What about this?

What if...

Okay, so let's say you smuggle something legally through your ass.

Okay.

Then you pop it out of your ass and commit a crime with it.

Is that crime also legal?

Or is that a crime?

No, no, no.

It's not like a golden bullet.

It's not a golden bullet situation.

It's just...

You know, what made me think of it was, you know, in Left 4 Dead, you got like the safe houses where zombies just can't affect you.

It's your moment to chill.

It's your safe space.

You're guaranteed that nothing bad's going to happen until you open the door.

I just want a real life safe space.

And what better space than my natural God-given pocket?

But I keep wondering, like, what do you, like, what do you mean about having stuff up that?

Like, what is your example of stuff?

Lump of gold?

Okay.

But why is it?

But why do you have to do that, I guess, is my question.

Like, I don't know.

I just wanted a place that no one would ever look.

But they do look.

Yeah,

that's my point.

They shouldn't.

do they have to manually look still i feel like we should be at a point with technology that they could just tell if you have something in your ass or not i like the idea of getting put in the in the x-ray and they can see the watcher there and they're like oh you little rascal you put it in your ass go on get out of here

yep yeah with their watch yep

now

okay let's just expand on this for you personally yeah let's say that this was a socially acceptable thing what do you think you would just carry in it whenever you went out would it be something you regularly used

I'm trying to think.

Nothing.

I've never like I've just always been scared of moving stuff between countries that I own because I'm like, oh, they're going to like think I've bought that and I'm illegally importing it.

And I just want the security of my ass, but I can't, or I also couldn't fit like an Xbox in my ass and stuff.

Yeah, that would be a problem.

That would have to be several flights and piece by piece.

I like this take because it's truly insane.

And I keep asking for examples and I don't feel like I'm getting any.

So I'm really on board for this.

I'll be honest, I can't think of a single item that I would actually use this on.

I just think people who put stuff up their ass to go through,

to like go through passport checks and stuff, they've gone through a lot.

They've got a lot of effort involved.

It just, it feels like the worst surprise you could have.

Yeah.

Like if we went out on a picnic and I was like, oh, man, I forgot.

I forgot to bring dessert.

And you're like, don't worry, I got some cookies right here.

Just give me a second.

Why would he pull that with cookies?

I was just thinking like a bag of cookies.

Why, why, right, right.

Why would he do that with cookies?

Why is he storing anything in his anus?

Because it seems like it's illegal to get

this from country to country.

He started arguing.

You're talking about using it, but he's saying a safe place for people won't go.

That makes sense for maybe potentially illegal activities.

What you're saying is we go on a picnic and he pulls Oreos out of his ass.

Yeah, why?

Because he did mention that he just wants to use his God-given pouch or whatever.

I don't know what that wording was, but

I don't know what he said, but it was something about he wanted to use his anal pouch.

So at the point in which he just wants to use it, then I think you have to like, it becomes a day-to-day thing for him.

Does it?

I feel like it becomes a day-to-day thing to you.

I don't need to use it every day.

I'd hardly ever use it.

This feels like a really weird thing to fight for then, if it's something you don't want to really use.

Okay, okay.

What about this?

What about this, right?

Okay.

Sometimes I have trouble sleeping.

Get some of those melatonin gummies, right?

To help you sleep.

But I don't think you're allowed to bring those to England.

So whenever I come to England, I'm all like insomnia and stuff.

If I just pulled a week's worth of gummies out of my ass, fine.

I also don't know if they're checking for those.

I would have no idea if they'd actually confiscate that.

Now, that's the world I want to live in, is that you're smuggling things anally that you don't have to, but just assume aren't allowed.

I like that reality a lot.

Can I bring melatonin from the US to the UK?

Not finding a clear answer.

First comment: it's not illegal to bring in, it's just illegal for someone to sell to you in the UK without a prescription.

Okay.

Second comment, yes, you can bring it.

Third comment, I'm asking you can order melatonin over the internet into the UK from the U.S.

I bring a tub home every time I go.

Now imagine how embarrassing it is if he's huddled over a toilet while reading this trying to get his mouth out of it.

Wow.

Here's the thing.

I think I like your take.

I don't think I like any of your uses for the take.

I think that's the thing.

I like the idea of my take, but

not only do I not know what I put in my ass, I've never experienced putting anything in my ass apart from the occasional woman's finger.

Sure.

You've never had like a,

what's the word I'm looking for?

They put the tube in your ass.

Medical procedure.

Like colonoscopy?

Colonoscopy.

Thank you.

Like one of those or like an enema?

No.

Oh, no, no, just a finger.

Just a

surprising finger.

I'm going to be thinking about your take all day, Gavin.

It's all I'm going to be thinking about for the rest of this day.

Look, I told you I thought I've done this wrong, so I don't know.

Well, you did it right, but you didn't.

I don't think you did it wrong.

No, I don't think you did wrong at all.

It's just really

don't think you did it wrong.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't think I've ever heard Nick so confused in the background.

It's very exciting.

I'm just, I'm thrilled.

I'm thrilled about this.

So great.

But that's Gavin's take.

That's pretty exciting.

Nick, we have your very first take.

I I feel, well,

what an act to follow.

I feel that I'm going to take some heat for this.

In fact, I know I'm going to take heat for this because I believe I am very much in the minority on this.

I would like to say that the inverted control scheme is the correct

control scheme.

You're in your scheme.

I think we talked about this.

You're nuts.

Like, I

like made a comment about something we played recently and saw that you did like inverted controls and thought you were crazy.

So does that mean Nick that when you get in a vehicle like a plane in a video game or a Banshee or something, are you now not inverted or are you inverted on both?

Inverted on both.

It makes no sense.

What do you mean?

I mean think about how your head moves.

Yeah, I move my head.

It's moved by my neck up and down.

It's not flown like a plane.

No one's steering my head with a stick

through the back of my head.

You tilt your head to look up.

You're tilting your head backward, which is the way that you're doing it on the controller.

Yeah, but there's no stick coming out the back of my head no one's got a thumb okay

fine fine gavin let's look at it from your perspective then let's talk about operating a camera when you tilt to look up which way do you pull the camera if i tilt to look gavin up

you want the camera to go on the stick because it's a stick coming out the back you pull it back but if the camera was on my head you would look up still tilting your head

i would look up

to to look up.

You're tilting back to look up.

You're tilting forward to look down.

You don't look back or forwards.

You look up and down.

So you invert up and down.

Do you invert left and right?

No, God, no, that's wrong.

Right, but you're steering your head to the right.

I don't understand what the fuck you're saying then.

Okay, so Nick, I've got a camera, right?

I want the camera to look to the right.

I take the stick coming off the back of the camera and I move it in which direction?

I turn the camera right.

You turn the camera right by doing what?

By turning it right.

Yeah, by pushing the stick to the left, huh?

If you invert your up and down,

you should be inverting your left and right.

That's the take.

Now that's a take right there.

That is a take.

I will say this, touche.

But also.

Now I'm just going to go back to the flying one.

You go left, you turn lefty, you go lefty.

You turn righty, you go righty.

You pull back to go up,

you push down, go down.

Wait,

or push forward, go down.

So I'm going to stick with the flight controls.

Inverted is correct, but only on the y-axis.

So how did you become inverted?

Halo.

It's literally thanks to Halo.

Yeah, but Halo isn't by default inverted.

It's not, but I remember.

No, but listen, but listen, but listen.

They do that whole tutorial bit at the beginning where Chief comes out of cryo sleep and they have you do the control thing like look left, look right, look up, look down.

down and then i remember it being like we'll try this up and down and i in the moment i was like i don't feel anything different so i just went with whatever the second one was

and ever since then inverted is the way to be so why are you blaming halo then did you only because it gave me the option

like i'm trying to understand like i get like halo playing that way but then you go to a different game And then you have to go into the settings and change it.

Yeah, well, I mean, at that point, it was so ingrained because I I played a lot of Halo that it was just everything else made me feel sick and slow.

Did you not play like a first-person shooter prior to Halo?

I mean, there weren't a ton, though.

There are so many.

Like, Doom.

On a controller?

On a controller?

Goldeneye?

I mean, but Goldeneye was...

I think Goldeneye was inverted.

Goldeneye, you didn't look up or down unless young aiming.

I guess.

Right.

So you looked up and down.

No, I mean, unless you were going through the crosshairs.

Most of the time you can just shoot in that.

Right.

So you would look up and down.

I would not look up and down that much in Golden.

I would never look up and down.

Me neither.

I'm not saying that I did it.

I'm saying that it was there and you could do it.

I mean, yeah, now.

What does that mean?

What do you mean?

So

is your take

that every game should be inverted by default?

Yeah, and I think that people should give it a shot because it is better.

It's more comfortable.

Why would everyone...

Inverted, the word inverted basically just means like backwards or flipped.

It's like it's not the default.

It says there's no verted.

There's normal

inverted.

Hey, you guys playing this game?

Inverted or verted?

Oh, these controls are verted.

As someone who plays everything verted, and then I swap controls as someone who doesn't, I'm just like, all it does for you, Nick, surely, is cause arguments from verted people.

Well, yes, it does.

And that's why I decided to be brave and

tell my story about how

to do that in my life.

Well, that means I am all these verts coming for you.

Are you going to pass down

this hindrance to your child?

That's exactly what I wanted to know.

Interesting question.

Is he going to get a choice in this?

Are you just going to start feeding him inverted controls without him knowing?

You know?

I wouldn't have to switch the control scheme when we handed the controller off.

Yeah.

He's going to learn inverted.

He's flying right.

Yeah.

Wait, that sounded wrong.

He's flying true.

But right, but right is left or right is right.

No.

Y-axis.

This take is crap.

I can't wait for the verts to come after you.

I thought Gavin's take was going to get slammed.

I definitely think Nick's take is going to get slammed.

Well,

Gavin emboldened me to be wrong.

Yeah, I know.

I've played GTA with both of you.

I've seen how it works.

We should film a let's play at some point where Nick has to play verted and the rest of us all have to do inverted.

That is such a good idea.

I mean, I don't want to do it, but that's going to be terrible, but I just think it's funny for us all to suffer.

Easier for the verteds to use inverted because we fly planes inverted in games.

Oh, that's an interesting idea.

It's a very interesting take, yeah.

Backwards.

Yeah.

Or normally.

Very curious.

Well, Nick, great take.

I think we could do one more take each.

Do you think one more take each or do you think we wrap up at like?

No, no, we got to do one more take each.

I'm so curious to see what else Gavin has to say.

That's fair.

Do you have another take, Gavin, or do you only have one take?

Oh, I wrote like 10.

I thought this is

cool.

All right, then

let's go back around the horn.

Let's start with Andrew and then let's go back around the horn.

My second take:

we get one real animal movie a year.

I know making movies with real animals isn't ethical.

So we use CG animals now almost all the time, but it just doesn't hit the same.

It's not as fun.

It's not as entertaining.

I think we should be allowed morally to have one film a year that is real animals in all of the roles.

And it's like the big real animal movie of the summer or year.

That is my take.

I really have almost truly no opinion on this.

Who's the board that decides, oh, this is the movie that gets the real animal?

Oh, that's a question.

I, you know, I think maybe it rotates by major studio.

Each year, a major studio has the,

I don't know if you want to say right or like they've been penalized with making a fully real animal movie and it just rotates.

But there's only one and there's a lot of expectation on that movie delivering because of that.

Because I'm sick of these CG.

I saw a trailer for Cats vs.

Dogs 3 recently, which I didn't know was a thing they made a third of.

And they're all CG and it looks like shit.

That's just now they look like shit.

What do you mean?

Surely eventually, 20 years from now, you won't be able to tell.

I don't think that's true.

I think all of that.

He doesn't want to wait.

He doesn't want to wait the 20 years, though.

I don't want to wait.

He wants a real cat and a real dog doing something.

And I also, yeah, I want to know that it's a real dog playing football.

I want a real dog running out there getting that ball.

Dude, if the end of Homeward Bound was

CG dogs and a cat walking back home, it would not be as impactful.

So maybe I agree with this.

Oh,

I think it just doesn't hit the same.

Do you want the animal to be doing its own stunts as well?

Or are you okay with a CG double?

No, I want it doing the stunts.

All right.

Well, this might be where we

escape a burning building with a zip line.

How you doing that?

I don't know.

I'm not a fucking stunt coordinator.

Staying on an airplane with me.

There are people that are professionals that figure out how to film that.

Fucking know what, Devon.

You're asking me how do I set up a safe safe stunt?

I don't do that, but there's an industry of people that that's their job.

I will trust them.

Gavin, take that and show it up, Yana.

He does MVP.

He doesn't give a fuck about how it's done.

He just wants to watch the end result.

Here's the thing.

I want it to be done safely.

How is it done safely?

I don't fucking know.

That's not my job.

I don't live in that world.

There are professionals that do.

And I trust that they will figure it out.

Oh, my God.

Well, that took a turn.

I just want a real animal movie because they all suck now.

Just watch

Earth.

They're not like doing goofy stuff.

You're not going to see Bingo on trial on planet Earth.

Bingo on trial.

Remember the bingo movie?

Something we should watch?

He's on the stand.

Now, are you okay with the movie?

You just can't do it.

The animal's probably going to get uncomfortable and hurt while it's filming.

That's the thing.

That's why it's morally unethical and why we stopped doing this as a culture.

But I think we can be allowed one per year.

Did we stop doing it?

There's still animals in films.

Not really, like, not in the way it used to be.

He wants full animal film.

Like, he doesn't want like, here's a section about animal.

He wants like full animal.

Not like these people are riding a horse sort of thing.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

If the movie was about the horse all the way, then absolutely.

I want MVP4 with a real monkey.

It's all I want.

I don't feel like it's a huge ask.

But I understand it's not ethical.

When I emailed that zoo where Louie from MVP is currently residing, they were very clear that they do not support the MVP movies or animals and film in general.

I get it.

I support it.

But just wait, we could do one.

We could do one per year and make sure it's really safe and everything's all good.

I support it.

That's my take.

One real animal movie per year should be allowed.

That's uh

well, there you go.

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That's it.

Eric, what's your take?

Wow.

My take is one that in my lifetime, I think has become, it was something that we wanted and then got, but too much of a good thing has become sort of what this thing is.

I think my hot take is not everything needs lore.

At one point in movies, a movie would just be a movie and we didn't have to know everything about every character.

We didn't have to have backstories about every single thing.

Not everything was a big franchise.

Sometimes a movie was just a movie.

Sometimes a TV show is just a TV show.

And sometimes

we didn't need the alternate reality game that nobody really cared about to put all these pieces together to solve a mystery that nobody wants for a show that's canceled in season two.

But how would characters, how would a movie exist without lore?

No, no, no.

I'm not talking about the

what you're seeing on screen.

I'm talking about what happens when everyone extrapolates every little detail in becoming the most lore-focused thing.

Where I guess my example is like, how come the timeline for Donkey Kong doesn't make sense?

We don't need a timeline for Donkey Kong.

He's Donkey Kong.

He is the monkey and he wants the banana.

So it's more of like a consumer thing then.

It's like the fans stroke groups.

Yes.

Okay.

Because I don't think Nintendo

are that strict with their law.

Like, look at Zelda.

Yes.

And everyone is like, not everyone, but like weird nerds are pissed about, well, where does this fit in the timeline?

Who gives a shit?

So it does not matter.

Basically, if someone's there asking, like, oh, what order are the Zelda games in?

Like, is this the same link from this game as it is in that game?

Your answer is shut up.

Shut up.

Okay.

Shut up.

It does not matter.

Play the game.

I hope you enjoy the game.

If there's stuff there and people want to, if the creator is like, hey, I developed it with this stuff in mind or whatever.

Great.

Whatever.

When people start going like, well, here's how it fits in with the Star Wars, like Star Wars is, I guess, like the big example.

Cause when I was a kid, it was all of the books and everything of like the Star Wars like extended universe.

And like, you read these books and all this stuff.

And then they just went, none of that's real.

Yeah, none of that's canon, actually.

And so it was like, but I read all these books and I really enjoyed them.

And they go, yeah, none of that fucking means anything here.

So fuck you.

And it was like, okay, sick.

So I guess it doesn't matter.

And that's really what was like my turning point on not everything that you like has to become the biggest volume encyclopedia.

It can just be a thing you enjoy for a little while and then you can put it away and move on.

And you don't have to know what the timeline for Donkey Kong is.

It can just be Donkey Kong and that's fine.

Like, I

people trying to figure out the Mario Brothers timeline is like the craziest thing in the world to me.

Mario Brothers, you go right.

You just go right.

And now you can go forward and backward.

You pull back on the stick.

Maybe you go forward.

I don't know.

Nick's controls are working.

I just think the lore focus of stuff is really, really frustrating to me.

And I'm sick of it.

I'm done with it.

Now, to be clear, you're not opposed to all lore.

You just don't think everything needs it.

Yes.

And I don't think that fans need to deep dive on every detail of everything, like Donkey Kong timelines.

That is, I

think sometimes stupidity of lore is sometimes my favorite thing about the thing.

Like, I love,

I truly love and fast and furious how fucked up that lore is because they tried to make something make sense and then they decided it didn't matter anyway after doing all of the work to explain it where they had a very popular character die in Tokyo Drift, which was the third film.

And in like movie five, they're like, fuck, we want to bring him back, but he's dead.

How do we do that?

Okay, we'll set five, six, and seven before three.

We'll do that.

Like, we'll, this timeline is all fucked now because we want to explain how Han can be around.

And then they do all that.

And then we get to the point of his death.

And then they just bring him back anyway in the most recent installment.

And it was like, well, why did you need to do any of that work?

Like, none of it actually mattered.

He was just coming back regardless of what you did.

Yeah.

None of it matters.

But I love that they tried so hard to explain it in a way.

Maybe the only attempt to like logically explain anything in any of those movies.

And it's just crazy that they did it.

So i love personally lore uh i don't the the fan feedback around it can definitely be annoying at times yes i think i like it because frustrating because i grew up in a time where video games didn't look anything like the cover and you'd have like pixels for like an enemy and i would always be like oh i'm gonna read the booklet and see what this enemy actually looks like and i want to i want to learn about it and why it's doing what it's doing

so that's interesting and and

when i was younger, I felt the same way because we didn't have it.

It was a thing that I was desperate for.

I wanted more lore and every, what if all these things connected?

And now everything's a franchise.

Everything connects.

Nothing can be just on its own.

Everything has to be, well, how does this make sense with the lore?

And it's like, this sucks.

I just, I don't want it to go back to the amount that it was before where it was zero, but it cannot continue to be the amount where, that it is, which is 100.

It's too much.

It's too much lore for every single thing.

Yeah, I don't know.

I think that's fair.

As long as we're okay with lore existing, I'm with you.

Oh, yeah.

I'm fine with the logic thing.

I'm not fine with people being mad about Donkey Kong timelines.

I'm never going to let that go.

Donkey Kong timeline is like the craziest thing in the world to me.

You care about when the Donkey Kong games take place?

Donkey Kong?

The Donkey Kong?

God damn.

It makes me nuts.

That's crazy.

So what is that lore?

Is Cranky Kong the original Donkey Kong?

Right, but that's what people posited.

Like, oh, yeah, the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong.

But then this new game is coming out and Cranky Kong's in it.

And people are like, how can there be Kid Pauline, but Cranky Kong?

Like, is people getting mad about that stuff?

And you just go, I don't, I don't know, man.

Who cares?

I don't know.

Is anyone wondering where Lanky Kong is these days?

I don't think anybody wants.

I don't think anybody wants that.

He's got, he has no style.

He has no grace.

Is Lanky Kong the Taylor Kitsch of

the Kong universe?

Absolutely.

None of it is his fault.

Yeah, donkey is Aaron Taylor Johnson.

That's my take.

Thank you very much.

Gavin, so excited.

Go for it.

I can't wait.

Every time the CEO of a major global corporation takes a bonus, he first has to stand in front of each employee one by one and tell them what his bonus is about to be and tell them how long it would take that employee to earn the same amount of money

on their current salary

just to see if after going through all that he still wants to take the bonus.

I love it.

I think it can't be over a Zoom call or anything.

It has to be in the same room.

It's like direct face-to-face.

So he'll be like,

hi,

Edwin Jenkins.

Okay.

My bonus this year is $25 million.

And at your current salary, it would take you 175 years to earn.

Good to see you.

Yeah.

And just to see if

being overloaded with that would cause any kind of guilt.

I don't think it would, unfortunately.

I think a lot of the people in these positions are kind of psychotic

or just void of emotion.

I really like this idea.

I would almost like to see a scenario in which they have to pitch why they deserve their bonus, and then it's squid game style where every employee has to vote by hitting a yes or no button, whether they receive it or not.

Oh, I like that.

So, what if it's like a mixed vote?

Whatever's the majority wins.

Oh, well, no one, yeah, they would never get a bonus.

Yeah,

well, great.

Well, that's why you have to state your case really well.

Yeah, I just think there's no, can you imagine any corporation on the planet that would have

I think they they wouldn't even get 10, let alone 100.

Right.

I think that's fair.

Yeah, I think that's totally fine.

Yeah.

Make a stronger case.

If you're really that good and that much of a leader, you can make your case to these people that you deserve more.

I could imagine a CEO walking out and being like, listen, y'all, I know I'm not going to get my bonus this year.

So I just want to take this time to talk about the fact that we are not smuggling enough things.

Let's get into this.

This could be the future.

I like this steak just because I want to see a CEO have to do that.

I just wonder if how many CEOs at the end of that experience would actually think twice about it or whether they'd just be like, and that's done with for another year?

I think it's that.

Do you think

I think so too?

What part of you is going, kid?

And David Zaslov changed his mind?

I'm also so interested to see what his compelling case is about why he deserves to be done.

Well,

he changed his mind.

They're splintering now.

It's just like, oh, man,

I would love to still be an employee for that that meeting.

That would be phenomenal.

Think about how many subsidiaries some of these companies have.

They would have to come to our company, sit down with us and meet with Drew Saplin and every other person

to make the case about, all right, and here's how long you'd have to work.

It would almost be, because here's what's going to happen eventually on these big companies, potentially the employee will be like asking the CEO, like, well, what have you actually done?

this year?

Like, what's the kind of work you've done?

And he'll just be like, mainly standing in front of all my employees, telling them what my bonus is going to be.

Because it would take

freaking long.

Yep.

I had the courage to rename the thing what it was originally called because I just had that vision.

You're welcome.

And you're welcome.

Oh, man.

That's a good take.

I like that.

That's really good.

I like that.

That's an interesting take.

I like that a lot.

Yep.

Sweet.

Okay, Nick, round us out.

What is your take?

I keep getting to follow Gavin on some pretty big, crucial takes.

And then I get to

get to dive bomb a little bit.

So this one, I think a lot of people try to say that you should never put ketchup on a hot dog, right?

Sure.

Like that, that's a thing that I don't know if you grew up with it, but all the people I knew were like, you should never put ketchup on a hot dog.

No problem with ketchup like on a hot dog with something else.

My

you mean ketchup, right?

Yes, I mean you're saying ketchup, but you mean ketchup.

Ketchup?

up?

Ketchup.

Yeah, catch up.

Whatever.

Thank you, Gavin.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you, Gavin.

Okay.

I also say helicopter, helicopter, most of the time.

So you wanna do that.

Oh, I never heard of it.

Anyway, me neither.

Now I will.

Oh, sweet.

Glad to hear it.

If you push forward on a helicopter, which direction does it go?

Well, is it attached to a neck or not?

It depends.

Are the controls inverted or not?

All right, go ahead.

Damn it.

Are they verted?

My argument is that ketchup should never be alone on a hot dog.

Ketchup has no place being the sole condiment on a hot dog because it's too sweet and takes away from the rest of the dog itself.

If it's ketchup and mustard, you've got that nice bit of, you know, comparison, more the acidity of the...

mustard going with the ketchup sweetness and that complements the dog pretty well right with a relish it's pretty good with onion it's cutting through a little bit, even if you had like chili.

So, my argument is ketchup alone on a hot dog, gross with other stuff, good.

I wonder if you're going to lose this poll just because of the catch-up thing.

Yeah, like in the same way that people get so upset when people call Mario Mario because of just that's that's where they that's how they pronounce that there.

I'm so fascinated to see the catch-up reaction.

I also feel like never before have you said catch-up so much like catch.

I I felt like even after calling it out, you went even harder on it somehow.

Like some of them, you were just saying catch.

Ketchup.

Ketchup?

Is it ketchup?

It's ketchup?

Okay.

Ketchup.

Okay, so

in the event of no condiment at all or just plain hot dog, it's plain hot dog for you?

Is that the...

In the event of no condiment at all or plain hot dogs.

So if you're going to get a hot dog and the only thing they have is ketchup, that means you're just going to have that.

Oh, yeah.

A plain dog.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'll take a dry dog over a ketchup dog.

Would Would you allow some solo mustard, though?

Yeah, that's totally acceptable.

Mustard is a very complimentary flavor to the hot dog.

How do you feel about ketchup generally?

I love it.

It's good on fries.

It works well, you know, with a burger, ketchup mustard, good stuff.

Huh.

But on its own, on a dog, just a weird flavor profile.

Don't like it.

Shouldn't allow it.

Wow.

I've never...

Wow.

And you think it's so bad that people shouldn't be allowed to do it?

Just generally?

Should just be outlawed?

Should be a banned combination?

Well, I hadn't thought about it that way until you mentioned it, but yeah.

Fuck them.

Oh.

I'm a ketchup-only dog guy, so I'm going to have to completely change.

Yeah.

Wow.

Absolutely.

I am.

So sorry to.

Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to change how it is.

I think it's so inoffensive.

And I think the benefits of ketchup compared with a plain dog,

like absolutely astronomical.

I would always go for the ketchup over nothing and i'm not even a big catch up guy hey nick yeah yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna go with you why not yeah

surely you don't believe that you wouldn't no absolutely no i don't but i got it somebody's gotta be on the side here hold on no they don't i don't i don't want non-believers on my team yeah he's gotta he doesn't want you charity support someone's someone's gotta help this guy just hanging by a thread here he's telling people they're not allowed to

look archie will learn both things No catch up on dog alone.

Oh, is this something that he does right now?

No, he doesn't fucking eat condiments.

That little

what are you about to say?

That little non-sauce monkey.

He is the opposite of that character.

Wow.

Sauce guy banning sauces.

That's crazy.

But I think that it's in lieu of, it's not just banning the sauce.

It's in lieu of like, you need more sauces.

I can't just be the single sauce.

I think a hot dog might be the most in need of condiment food that exists.

Yeah, I don't disagree.

Like, I would have a dry.

So, he's telling you, put a bunch of condiments on that sucker.

Yeah, together.

There's a certain point where when I'm putting condiments on a dog, right, I feel like the effort is more than what it's worth.

I don't want to have to open three different bottles for my hot dog.

It doesn't, it's too much.

If you had one bottle with three nozzles and it was just a singular squeeze for all the

condiments, somebody, somebody get uniform on the phone.

The relish hole would have to be quite big.

Didn't they do that with like a peanut butter and jelly back in the day?

I mean, you can get all the jars of the same shit.

Yes.

Like all that goober, gross-looking goob shit.

That is what it was called.

It was called goober.

It was like striped.

Yeah.

It looked disgusting.

Yeah, I saw that in stores the first time I came to America.

I was like,

what the hell is wrong with that?

What have they done?

Is it illegal to have it in England or is it just sort of frowned upon so you have to put it in your ass to get it there?

British customs looking for looking for goober and bites in my ass and they can't do anything about it.

We know he has goober and we know his Castle ratings are off the chart on this

goddamn goober.

Doing a 10-hour flight with an arseload of goober would be an absolute nightmare.

You hear the jar crack?

Oh no.

Oh man.

Oh, that'd be terrible.

Oh man.

What a bunch of interesting takes.

Really, really, really interesting takes.

I mean, this show was created so that way Taylor Kitch could have something to do, but it really took us down some rabbit holes.

Very, very interesting.

I'm so excited to see how the audience feels about these takes.

I'm interested in

getting opinion on the poll.

I'm interested in the audience's takes.

I'm interested in if they want us to do another round of takes, Jeff's takes included.

Oh,

Jeff makes great takes.

Yeah.

I mean, it's definitely, it's not going to be inverted versus verted, but it will be something.

So I'm very curious.

I don't know that.

Maybe he's a secret inverter.

A secret inverter?

He's not.

You know, it's crazy.

I feel like

my first take was so wild and useless, yet somehow I still agree with it more than both of Nick's picks.

Well, incredible.

What's it like to

be wrong?

I'm wrong.

We'll see.

Maybe he's right.

Maybe the audience will.

No confidence in asking him that question.

How does it, how does it

just, you know.

Anyway, vote in the poll.

Oh, my God.

Vote in the poll.

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I can't wait to see what happens.

So they're voting for, they're voting for the worst take.

Is that what it is?

They're voting for the worst take to see who will have to pang the idiot flag on themselves.

Pretty exciting.

Well, that's good stuff.

Pretty cool.

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Maybe that helps.

That'd be fun.

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