Sawbones: The Heartmobile

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I'm your co-host, Justin McElroy.

And I'm Sidney McElroy.

Oh, man.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It is really, really interesting that you guys cheered so loud for Sydney.

Just interesting.

Go ahead.

Sorry.

That's for you.

No, no, no.

That's for you.

Somebody just who was just walking in the back just rose their fists like it was for them, though.

Cheers to you.

Whoever just did that is a good silhouette.

I got a good laugh out of that.

Thank you.

Cheers to all of us.

We're here back back in the home of Kosai.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

Kosai is such an interesting place, Sydney.

And you know what?

It's really interesting that you mentioned Kosai.

God, it's like every word you're saying tonight is so interesting to me.

And I think I know, Paul, can you just show?

That's right.

That's the new Huntington Quarterly issue of the most interesting people.

And who is that?

Yes.

okay

yeah thank you

I wanted to save time because I was showing it to everybody backstage individually and I thought here let me save some time I'll just show it to everybody at the same time I'm very proud so uh there that this uh I just want to show you that because I'm proud of Sydney that's all

I just think it's a shame they wasted pages on other people.

You know what I mean?

Just like one big Sydney issue.

That's what I demand.

No, I appreciate that.

Thank you, honey.

Thank you.

I will say, and I love Huntington.

We were born in Huntington.

I grew up in Huntington.

I still live in Huntington.

So clearly I love Huntington.

I am just one of the most interesting people in Huntington.

So like that,

it's good to keep yourself humble, you know, in Huntington.

You know, I know some other people who live in Huntington.

They also do it every year.

So like there's a whole new crop of people every year.

I've been on it.

I don't think, though.

though.

And I am in Huntington, Texas.

To be fair, that's Huntington Quarterly is that magazine.

And your dad writes an article every issue in that.

Yeah, I didn't take a picture of dad's like closing article.

Every issue is even more embarrassing that I haven't been in it now.

It's kind of a little bit shameful now that I think about it.

But hey, but you know what?

We're thrilled to be here.

We're Huntingtonians at heart and always will be, but if you want to see a concert, you're going to Columbus.

That's the Huntington motto.

That's right.

You want to see a concert.

You want to go to a beer hotel.

You're going to Columbus.

You want to go to a Children's Science Museum?

Close to Huntington, Columbus.

You know what?

It's funny.

Kosai was actually,

part of the reason we wanted to found the Huntington Children's Museum is because I love Kosai so much, because it's the best.

It's the best.

And we checked out Other World today, which is a good thing.

Oh, we went to Other World.

That was cool.

Incredible.

Yeah.

Incredible.

So whenever we tour, we haven't toured in a long time.

Sawbones, you have, but Sawbones hasn't.

And whenever we do, we like to try to find something related to the area to talk about.

And my first thought, which was not my best thought,

was,

isn't Wendy's from Columbus?

And

it is.

I love Wendy's.

It's my favorite fast food restaurant.

The junior bacon cheeseburger is, yeah.

Nothing beats it.

It is the perfect, it is what, that's what you need.

If you need a fast food hamburger, you need a junior bacon cheeseburger.

Yeah.

Did you all tear down my first hand Wendy's or is it still up?

It's gone.

It used to be near the old Kosai, right?

The old Kosai spot is where the first Wendy's was.

This is how we're going to be.

I don't have a

something I remember because I'm old.

That's all.

This is very Huntington talk, though.

Like, oh, yeah, that's where the old Kosai.

That's the old.

It used to be the McIndaves.

I remember that place.

No, so I was going to talk about, I was like, well, I should talk about Wendy's.

I'm not going to talk about Wendy's, so let me just get that out there.

Because I was like, oh, what could I talk about?

Medical history plus fast food restaurant.

That's not going to be pleasant.

No, thanks.

You're not going to want to hear about that.

Because immediately I was like, didn't they have an E.

coli thing?

I think they had, like, every fast food restaurant has had like an E.

coli thing.

It's almost weirder if you haven't had one.

It's like, what are you hiding?

You know what I mean?

Right.

And then I had this thought, like, well, that's not a fun, that's not fun of a live episode.

And then what if, and I don't know, you all can tell me this if you're from Columbus.

Do you regard Wendy's the way that like when we think of our like beloved local eateries, like the local spots that like, if you know, you know.

Is Wendy's that in Columbus?

Okay, well, never mind this.

That was the, guys, I've been asking audiences questions for a long time.

That is the most united I have ever heard.

And y'all, y'all, I have asked people in Michigan how they feel about Ohio, and that is still the most unified I have ever heard an audience in a sentiment.

Is there Wendy's resentment?

That's what I feel like.

You're like, no.

Okay.

Maybe this year.

This is fascinating.

Well, maybe I should have talked about E.

coli at Wendy's.

I was pitching this idea to Justin.

I was like, we could talk about this one major E.

coli outbreak tied to a Wendy's.

It was like in their romaine lettuce there.

And I mean, it's great because nobody died.

So it's a good one to talk about.

And I feel like if that's your number one like sales pitch is like, nobody died.

So it's a good one.

So that wasn't good.

So.

So we're not going to talk about that.

So as I was like going through what are the things about Columbus, I mean, you've got a lot of like great medical institutions here and universities and a lot of, you know, academia that we could dig into.

You've got 10 sister cities.

Did you know that?

Columbus has 10 sister cities?

I read every article.

I know so much about Columbus.

But then I found something that hit close to home, and it's called the Heartmobile.

So I want to talk about, if you haven't heard about it, Columbus's Heartmobile.

And I'm excited because nobody's cheering, so it makes me think you haven't.

That's better.

You haven't heard of the Heartmobile.

This was close to home for me because very recently, Justin and I made a purchase.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you want to talk about what we bought?

It's still very ill-advised, but Sydney has had it in her head that she's going to branch out from the

population of people experiencing homelessness in Huntington and start spreading out to other counties.

So she found a bus.

She found a bus

on Facebook.

She found a bus on Facebook Marketplace that we went and bought in Hurricane.

No, it wasn't, no, it was in Salt Rock.

You know Salt Rock.

You You go out past the last Billy Bobs that still exists.

You don't want to get to Hurricane.

You know, you know, Salt Rock.

That's right.

Spell Hurricane, but pronounce Hurricane.

Yeah, Hurricane.

And so we bought, it's like, it's one of the shorter school buses that had been already converted into a camper by these guys, and it's painted kind of purple.

And I'm going to do medical outreach in it.

Yeah.

So we're trying to figure that out.

That, hey, you should know that that sounds very nice, but you are not the person whose house it is parked outside

and has been for several weeks.

My mom called it Grimace once

and now it's Grimace.

Now it's Grimace, my medical bus.

I can see your business.

Okay, so I'm going to tell you about the heartmobile, your very own Columbus Grimace.

It's not purple, though.

So that's okay.

That's okay.

We will forgive that.

So we have done a whole Sawbones before on the history of ambulances.

That's a very specific idea, right?

Like people are sick somewhere.

We need to get them to the place where the medical care, the doctors and everything are.

How do we transport them?

And a lot of the origins of that, as we've talked about before, came from like wartime.

How do we get people from the battlefield to somewhere where they can get to medical care?

And specifically, like, is there stuff that we could do in the field?

And that was really the origin of the idea of an ambulance.

Like, instead of just picking somebody up, throwing them in a car and driving them to medical care is there more that we could do out in the field and a lot of the original care came from firefighters from fire departments because they would send people to the scene of a fire and either the firefighters or the civilians would need care during the fire oh there's Sydney's bus in case Harry would like to see well there's my school bus

I didn't expect Grimace to be part of it.

No, but we'll go.

There's a futon in it, and I got to get the futon out before I can take care of people.

If you go into a place to get a shot and you see a futon, leave.

Don't stay there.

Go somewhere else to get the shot.

Right?

Yeah.

Like, I can't say, come into my school bus.

I have a futon.

I guess the bunk beds cover the emergency exit.

We're working on it.

Yeah, it's a work in progress.

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So let's go back.

We're talking about ambulances in the, and specifically in Columbus.

In 1931,

we're talking about the Ohio, the Columbus Fire Department.

They added something called a lion's palm motor, which was like a resuscitator, an early days sort of like

respiration, like ventilator kind of device.

They added something like that to a vehicle that they could take out into the field.

And those were, that was the first attempt to, if somebody is injured, severely injured out in the field, instead of just like throwing them in somewhere and taking them somewhere, let's do something about it, right?

And this was very exciting.

And so they put this in there and they started using it out in the field.

They got a report, and I mean, almost immediately afterwards, of somebody who had been electrocuted out in the field.

So they took it out to the scene.

Sadly, it didn't necessarily work, but we're not going to dwell on that.

But

it made a lot of headlines.

People all heard about this.

Did you hear?

They took this fancy machine way out in a car.

They drove it to somebody.

They took it out in the field and they tried to make them better out in the field.

You know, the next time I'm hurt or sick or injured, I think I'm going to call the fire department.

And so this really promoted this idea that, you know, when you need somebody, when you're sick, you should call the fire department.

That was where those were the origins of that idea, where they will bring care to you instead of just taking you to the hospital.

Okay.

And that was really exciting.

So like Columbus was sort of leading the way.

And there were other cities that were also starting to do this, but Columbus was already leading the way in like out-of-hospital emergency care as a way to improve outcomes.

Because that was the big thing is that if somebody's severely injured, you know, there's a time factor.

The faster you can get care to them, the faster you can, you know, ensure they're stable and maybe save their life.

And so Columbus was kind of leading the way.

It wasn't until the 60s, though, that we really started to get this attention nationally on what could we do with emergency medical services.

And a lot of this came with the idea that heart attacks were the leading cause of death.

So we started thinking about like heart disease and cardiovascular events and isn't there more that we could be doing before somebody gets to the hospital?

Wouldn't we improve outcomes if those kinds of things happen?

And at the time, a lot of our ambulances, so there were fire departments who had vehicles that could come.

That wasn't standardized though.

You wouldn't necessarily call the fire department no matter where you were.

In a lot of cities, what you would call was a hearse,

a funeral home.

I mean, and I don't mean that facetiously.

They were the ambulances.

I mean, you can fit a laying down person in there.

I have two different laying laying-down cars, right?

No, literally, that was your ambulance.

You called the funeral home and they drove you to the hospital.

I don't, I mean, this isn't, I'm not, I feel like this is like

dark humor.

No, this isn't dark humor.

You would call the funeral home and they would send the hearse and they would take you to the hospital.

They probably have a bit of a preamble, though, right?

Like, listen, I'm sure this is freaking you out a little bit.

You got to understand,

you won't definitely die.

Definitely.

No, I mean, I'm not saying they wouldn't wait outside.

They're already there.

Like, it's wild to go back.

It's actually bad for the planet to go back to the funeral home and go back to the hospital.

Think about it.

Or somebody else, they're not picky.

Like any.

But no, that really was in a lot of communities.

That was the best you could hope for.

If you, you know, somebody.

I don't know, gets hit by a car, falls out of a tree, whatever, you would call the funeral home and they would drive

stuck in a tree.

You would call a funeral home.

No, I don't.

it's true i mean i don't know they may have

but so they were there really was this need we know that heart disease is this big problem we think that if we could do things out in the field the the hearses are not going to be the ticket this is these these are not people depressing everyone yes firefighters seem to have an idea but we don't really have something.

What is the missing piece?

What is the vehicle?

What is the thing that we're missing?

And what really inspired people at that point was a project that started in Belfast in Northern Ireland, where they started creating these mobile heart coronary care, mobile heart care units.

And they were basically like these, they would call them flying squads that would come to the site of some sort of, you know, you think somebody's having a heart attack, they're having chest pain, whatever, and they would actually give them some sort of care, whether it was resuscitating them with, you know, chest compressions or some kind of medication or whatever they had available at the time, they were going to give them right there in a vehicle at the site instead of waiting until they got to the hospital.

And this was really inspirational.

Some of the doctors who got on board with this really quickly were again right here in Columbus.

There were two doctors, Dr.

James Warren and Dr.

Richard Lewis, who were of Ohio State University Hospitals, were watching what was happening in Belfast.

Are they here?

That would have been something though, huh?

Okay, sorry.

Probably not.

I said it would have been something.

I mean.

So

they had this idea, we need a vehicle.

We need something.

If we're going to go out into the community and provide care, it can't just be like us in our

neon.

I don't know, whatever car.

You think they had neon?

No, that was my first car.

That's always what I think of.

You know, a dodge neon.

That's probably what they had, right?

Oh, like the car, the neon.

Okay, sorry I thought you meant like their clothing

their dodge us in our Corolla like okay coming up with like pulling some paddles out of the back like hold on let me get this out of the trunk like we need something something right we need a vehicle what's hard is that they already had the hearse and if they just put the lights on the hearse we're at ecto one like we're there you know what I mean like we were so close

Well, they wanted something bigger and they really were thinking big.

They were thinking like a big enough vehicle that we could have essentially a whole coronary care unit in the back, like a huge exam table, like operating table is what you would think of, the thing that they put in there.

And all of the equipment that you would need to resuscitate somebody, almost like in an ER, right there in the back of this mobile unit.

And so they actually got a grant from the Federal Highway Commission, and a couple different cities got it.

Columbus was just the first to jump on this and create something that they called the Heart Mobile.

It was the first mobile coronary care unit in the United States.

It was created right here in Columbus.

And yeah.

And the whole idea is that they would staff it with one of the cardiologists from Ohio State University, and then they would also have firefighters on board.

And then together they would go to the site if they were called.

I mean, these are essentially, we're seeing the beginning of paramedics.

We're seeing the beginning of an ambulance with paramedics in it.

They did have a doctor initially that would help out.

And the idea was we're going to pilot pilot this for a couple years.

And it was a study.

We're going to see if the outcomes of the people that we go take care of out in the field improve if we take care to them before we get them to the hospital instead of waiting till they get to the hospital.

And obviously,

it was a rousing success.

Like, it was just, it was amazing.

Because you're doing it earlier.

Yeah, Justin.

Because you're doing it earlier.

And it was really easy.

You would call the fire department.

If there was, you know, somebody says, I'm having chest pain.

You call the the fire department, which a lot of people were already sort of, you know, predisposed to do because of this history in Columbus.

I think that's why this caught on here so quickly, is because the fire department had already been kind of unofficially providing this care out in the community.

And so people were sort of already programmed to do that.

So they knew to call the fire department.

The heartmobile,

which actually we have a picture of the heartmobile.

Paul, will you show our first?

This is what the heartmobile looked like.

I know, right?

It's really cool.

So,

I mean, can you imagine this rolling up outside your house?

I'd be so excited.

Except for the fact that you or your loved one was experiencing a severe cardiac event.

Well, there is that.

You probably are pretty excited about, just not the kind of excited you mean.

So, this was the heartmobile as they created it.

It was housed in a building right next

to the hospital emergency room.

This is called the heart shack.

Tin roof.

Crusted.

So what you would do is you'd have somebody on call in the hospital.

One of the doctors' job that evening was to be on the heart mobile if it was called.

I'm assuming they like spilled something earlier that day or like missed a shift or something and they had to go stay in the heart shack as punishment.

And if you, if there was a call, then they would call the emergency emergency room and say like paging the heart mobile doctor get to the heart shack it's time to go i assume you know what in in my fiction the doctor's driving probably not they wouldn't let us drive the doctor's probably in the back but somebody would drive the heart mobile to the site of the emergency And again,

so they did this for a couple years and then they published, this was very much supposed to be a study.

So will this work?

So they published all their results after two years.

And

again, the results were so compelling to the rest of the nation that this is a way to save lives, this is a way to improve outcomes if we bring care to people, that it fundamentally changed the way we think about emergency medical services and ambulances and paramedics forever.

The only changes are pretty quickly they realized that there were things we don't necessarily need all these things.

The heart mobile would go through several different iterations, and they also figured out pretty quickly that they don't need doctors.

I always tell the kids this: if we like drive past the site of an accident or something, if an ambulance is already there, the girls will ask me, like, do you need to stop, mommy?

And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

The experts are there.

They do not need a doctor.

The people who they need are already there.

And they realize that pretty quickly is you really don't need a doctor on there.

And this was great because that was a barrier, right?

There are only so many physicians.

There are only so many.

cardiologists.

I mean, initially they were only sending out cardiologists.

So that could be a big barrier to a smaller community hospital setting up a program like this.

Well now they're like, no, no, no, we can train firefighters, we can train EMTs, we can train people to do the care that's needed out in the community, and we don't need a cardiologist to do that.

It lowers the cost too overall if you don't staff with a physician all the time.

That's true, Justin.

I like that you're always cost-conscious with these sorts of endeavors.

It's all dollars and cents with me.

You know, it's interesting.

I was thinking about you when we were talking about how these would get out.

I was wondering about like dispatching, like how would you get those calls out?

And it occurred to me like that whole system kind of has to rise with this.

You know what I mean?

Like, we have to build those sort of systems too.

They aren't in place yet.

So, like, calling this would have to be a pretty like specific local thing when it's just like a test program like that.

Yeah.

And it was.

And it, but they published the results and it was really compelling.

So compelling that they immediately began improving upon it.

And the Heartmobile in that original iteration was retired after really like two years because they just got better ambulances, things that looked more like what you would think of as an ambulance today.

And we continued to modify that into the ambulance that would arrive if you, I hope you don't, if you unfortunately had an emergency.

But what happened?

This is the question to me.

What happened to the heartmobile?

Because here's this cool thing.

It's this amazing little quirky piece of medical history.

And then it kind of became vestigial really quickly.

So

initially, there was some talk like, this is a great thing that we've created.

We know we don't need it anymore, but we should save it.

But there really wasn't a big movement for that.

People are like, I don't know, it's this big giant van.

We should probably use it for something.

So they retired it from emergency response in 1972.

They took all of the EMS equipment out of it pretty quickly and they actually changed it into like a recruiting station for the fire department.

So they repainted the entire thing and they took it out into communities and tried to recruit people to be firefighters with it for a while.

So it served as that for several years.

After that was done, they started the Columbus Columbus Fire Honor Guard started using it as a transport vehicle for a while, so it had kind of a third life as that.

And then eventually it was given to the training division where it was used to transport recruits back and forth because it's a big van.

You could put a lot of seats, you could put a lot of people in it.

And then around 1985, they said, I don't know what we're going to do with this big van anymore.

We don't need to take it out anywhere.

We don't need to move anybody anymore.

It's the fate of all big vans eventually.

You hate to think about it.

There's so many Pixar movies about it, but eventually every big van has to die.

Go ahead.

Well, I mean, it's true.

It was in terrible shape.

It had rusted.

The paint had faded.

The lights were hanging off of it.

It was in bad shape.

They just kind of let it

fall apart.

And a lot of people didn't remember it.

I mean, because it really, it didn't serve for very long, right?

The chances that you had encountered the Hartmobile in its heyday were pretty slim.

It was like two years.

The chances that you'd see the next day are even slimmer.

No disrespect to the great cardiologists of Columbus.

I hope you all appreciate a good ribbing.

I'm usually the bummer in these episodes.

So anyway, so here we have this big van that's this piece of medical history that is just sort of falling apart.

And they finally decide like, there's nothing there were some people with the with the fire department who wanted to preserve it But nobody had the the money or the power to do that and

selling little chunks of it necklaces.

That's what I

They were gonna put it up at a surplus auction.

So then who knows what it was gonna become right

Yeah

This is a true story.

I read this and I I

if I if I had the time to just go find the people involved with this story and do a deep dive.

I am not a journalist.

I wish I was because this is a fantastic story.

So,

a few weeks before they're going to put this van up for auction, an anonymous tip was received at the Columbus Fire Department at Station 2.

And the department historian received this call.

So, that's lucky.

That would be Robert Throckmorton.

And

he was told, He was told, if you want to save the Hartmobile,

now would be the time

and that a gate quote may be unlocked

if you want to get the heartmobile out of there

Columbus nice

And that is exactly what happens happened after hours.

Two firefighters drove to the station.

They found a gate unlocked.

They,

I'll say it, stole it

they had to they they had to get a mechanic to jumpstart the heart mobile and they stole it

okay here's what i'm thinking tom hardy is both of the firefighters and also the voice of the bus now hear me out

So this is a great heist.

And I want to know all the people involved.

I wish I could do just a history of interviewing everybody involved.

So they stole the heartmobile mobile or appropriated it is how they keep wording it in the history they appropriated we thought we saw a fire there i don't know what to tell you because

eyes are playing tricks but we thought it was a fire so legally we had jurisdiction they moved it around to different fire stations around columbus to keep people guessing into like the 80s they just kept moving it around and then finally it landed at station 28 and there were some people there who were like we're really interested in trying to rebuild this thing so they started working on rebuilding the engine And I'm talking about like just people who know stuff about rebuilding fire trucks, who start or fire, well, fire trucks and then obviously these kinds of vehicles started rebuilding this in their free time.

Like guys would just meet after work and get together and work on this heartmobile because they really believed it should be preserved and they really loved it.

And so you can see, Paul, we have another picture of in process.

They were restoring it.

It was, it took a lot of fundraising and cooperation.

It took some detective work.

They had to like track down where the different components, if they could find them, that had been inside the heartmobile ended up.

And they were like, they found the original EKG machine was owned by a local physician who was using it as a coffee table.

The noise I just

the noise I heard you nerds make when she was like the EKG machine was like oh

ah

They got the original clock and then there were a lot of things that they just had to kind of of find like this would be appropriate for the time period.

Paul, will you show the next?

Yeah, and you can see this is what the inside of it looks like now.

They had to rebuild that exam table.

That's an original from the time period.

And that is exactly what it would have looked like if it showed up.

I mean, you can see this is pretty state-of-the-art for, I mean, an ambulance usually doesn't have all of this space to do all of this.

It was huge.

It looks like, you know, it's funny.

And the time period kind of lines up.

It looks like how airplanes used to look, like when we would think about we need this much space to do this.

Like you got to be able to walk around.

You got to have room for a piano.

Otherwise, what are you doing?

You can see there's the original clock.

There's the original EKG and defibrillator.

All of this was right there in the wall.

So if they pulled up, they could go ahead and do an EKG.

They could do defibrillation if your heart stopped.

What's our next?

There you go.

There's oxygen masks and regulators.

I mean, a really well-equipped vehicle, especially for the time.

And then we'll talk about one more.

And there's the, I love this.

There's the tape recorder for our EKG.

We don't usually do this now.

There's your tape recorder for your EKG transmission.

So you can bring that to the hospital and have people read that.

So all of that was inside the Heartmobile, and now it is restored.

And what's really cool is if you want to see this, if you want to see the Heartmobile, you can visit it now at the Central Ohio Fire Museum, which is like...3 miles from here.

It's like down the street.

So there it is.

send us your pictures of you with the heart mobile.

I know.

So you can visit it.

It's super close.

I couldn't convince the girls to do that over Other World today.

I was like, can we come see

this big van that has old medical equipment in it, please?

No dice.

Hey, Columbus, thank you so much for

being here with us.

Thanks for rebuilding that cool bus.

Thanks for being so kind to us.

Thanks to the taxpayers for using their song Medicine as the intro and outro of our program.

And thanks to you for listening.

That's going to do it for us.

Until next time, my name is Justin McElroy.

I'm Sidney McEroy.

And as always, don't drill a hole in your head.

All right.

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