"Tig Notaro"

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Speaker 1 Hey guys, welcome to the show today. I hope you're feeling really good.
I got a hat on. You guys don't.

Speaker 1 Are you jealous of my hat?

Speaker 2 I've got a microphone, though. I'm ready to go with a microphone and

Speaker 2 a couple of headphones here. Let's see.

Speaker 1 That just leaves me, and all I got is a really bad attitude.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, and a bad speech thing.

Speaker 1 We're doing

Speaker 1 smart.

Speaker 1 Smart,

Speaker 1 less.

Speaker 1 Smart.

Speaker 1 Let us.

Speaker 1 You know, Sean, you look like you look a little bit more blonde today. I know, I got it.
Did you do a rinse this morning? No, I got a haircut yesterday and I didn't color it. I got to color it.

Speaker 1 It's a little different. Nice try.

Speaker 1 I saw Sean yesterday. I happened to be at CVS and he was buying.
He bought three things of sun in.

Speaker 1 And he sprayed a bunch of Sun in. It is a little lighter than normal, and I don't like it.
So I'm going to color it a little bit. No,

Speaker 1 Skevo's going to get it. Sorry, go ahead.
You go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because I hang on a sec, Will.

Speaker 1 This is important.

Speaker 2 What kind of

Speaker 1 color is it? Skevo, though.

Speaker 2 Skevo, the greatest name in all of hairdressing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sean, what is the color that one tries to target? Usually, is there a name for it?

Speaker 1 A name for it. There's no name for Burnt Sienna.
No, it's like number five and number two or whatever they have.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But you blend.
It's a blend.

Speaker 1 It's a blend. But I know you don't like when I color my hair, but I like it.

Speaker 2 Well, you, well, I like what you like.

Speaker 2 But I just want to make sure you know that I need no color to love you any more than I do. Oh, that's true.
I'm at Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm sorry.
I'm still reeling. I can't believe you blend five and two.

Speaker 1 I think the coloring world is going to be. I'm going to have to call Eli, our buddy Eli Thomas, Skevo.
We should have a conference of all the hair guys we know. We'll get Macmillan in there.

Speaker 2 Old, sweet, sweet Chris.

Speaker 1 Chris McMillan. And we'll bring them all in.

Speaker 2 Is Skevo short for anything?

Speaker 1 No, he is a shorter fellow, but no, his name is full name is Skevo. I met him.

Speaker 2 Do you call him anything for short?

Speaker 1 What would be short for Skevo? Hey, Skevo.

Speaker 1 Oh, sometimes you drop the O, huh? Like if you're in a rack.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you just got it, if you're running a bunch of errands and what's his last name because usually last name's more spicy than the first i'm gonna tell you right now we can cut out this pause while i look it up uh please please be miller his um last name is zambila zambila zambila zamboni zambilas

Speaker 1 would you say that you guys are tired

Speaker 2 Hey, Will, by the way, I played golf the other day with the guy whose grandmother, I believe I'm getting this right, semi-right,

Speaker 2 invented the Zamboni.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh,

Speaker 1 I've played golf with that guy too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it happened down here in like Paramount, California, surprisingly, not in Canada.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Tracy, the Zamboni is the machine,

Speaker 2 the sweet little car or truck or minivan that you drive over the ice rinks to make it smooth and

Speaker 1 shiny. Cleans the ice, uses hot water and thing, and then drags and smooths it out.

Speaker 1 It's the one thing for hockey that's hurt it in terms of viewing because they have to ice between periods and therefore the intermissions are so long.

Speaker 1 It's, you know, 20 minutes and it's detrimental.

Speaker 2 There is no alternative.

Speaker 1 Why don't they get two out there? They do. They generally do.
Pro games, they do, yeah. Maybe they need three.
They might need three. I don't know.
I was, you know,

Speaker 2 Sean's got something on this. Yep.

Speaker 1 Well, Michelle Pfeiffer's character's name in Greece too was Stephanie Zanoni. I always thought it was Zamboni.
Huh.

Speaker 1 So listen.

Speaker 1 sorry, do you want to go down? Do you have a list of stuff you misheard over the years?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Dudes, every once in a while, we get to have a guest on that is also our friend. Today is one of those days.
I love every moment I spend with this woman and always wish for more.

Speaker 3 She's funny, but never on.

Speaker 2 She's kind and warm, but never one of those smiley creeps. She's done movies, television, radio, podcasts, written a bestseller.
She's been nominated for Emmys and Grammys.

Speaker 2 She's got two kids, one wife. She started in Mississippi, and now she's right here.
Say good morning to the great Tig Notaro.

Speaker 1 Oh, Tig. Tig

Speaker 1 Tig Nataro.

Speaker 1 I love that I was described to a T, and Sean's still like, who could this possibly be? Yeah, I had to zip through it. I didn't sound remotely familiar.

Speaker 1 I knew, and I knew, and I didn't, I knew, and I didn't say anything because I didn't want my disappointment to come through the microphone so early.

Speaker 1 I didn't want my, and not even disappointment, outrage.

Speaker 1 Now, hey, Tig. Tig, your hair is growing out.
It looks good. Oh, it just started today.
I'm surprised you noticed.

Speaker 2 No way has it grown out. Yeah, you really

Speaker 1 started out today.

Speaker 1 I just started growing it out today.

Speaker 1 I woke up and I was like, you know what? I'm going to grow my hair out.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I can't believe you noticed. Day one, please do one of those things where you take a snapshot every day for 365 and then put it together as a video and set it to a really sad song.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Hey, Tig, speaking of sad songs, are both your parents still with us?

Speaker 1 All three are dead. Three? Three.
Well, I had a stepfather that raised me.

Speaker 1 Okay. And in fact, not only is he dead,

Speaker 1 but he's not coming back.

Speaker 1 He has no way back to town. A couple of years ago, when he died, and we were having his funeral in Mississippi,

Speaker 1 it was an outdoor burial.

Speaker 1 And we were talking to the priest, was saying, How do you want to do this? It's more casual outside. I said, Well, I was gonna say something, and my brother said, Um, well, I'll go first.

Speaker 1 I'll just say something really quick. And he walks up and he fell into the grave.
No, no, yeah,

Speaker 1 yes, he did. What is that true?

Speaker 1 It is very true. And my entire family is sitting there, and you see everyone just go, Oh, shit, oh,

Speaker 1 and my brother, and there's like this tarp over the hole. And you just see my brother slowly, it like it caught him a little bit, but he's slowly going down.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I mean, that might go. It's overwritten in a comedy.
I know, it's too much. And we're trying to help him out.
He's had a few.

Speaker 2 Had he had a few?

Speaker 1 No, no, it was, it was no. He's just blind.
No, they, the place messed up. They were supposed to put plywood over it.
And you see the people from the,

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 1 i love that the i love that the lawsuit says uh that place messed up we're suing you because you messed up that's the legal terminology yeah we messed up we messed up what was the effort like getting him out was it tough to get him out well we were like oh my gosh trying to help him out he's like no no no i'm okay and he's pulling himself out like the knight of the living dead like

Speaker 1 with this dirty suit just grab you know grabbing dirt and grass trying to pull himself out of the hole like he he was not gonna to let anybody pull him out. Have you ever had a nightmare with that?

Speaker 1 Has that imagery ever come back to you? Like, sort of,

Speaker 1 no, that was like a dream come true. That wasn't a nightmare.
That was like, oh my God, I couldn't believe my stepfather did not get to see that happen. Right.

Speaker 1 And you could believe your luck that you got to witness it, too. Well, and immediately I thought, oh my God, this must happen all the time.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, wait, this can't happen all the time. In Mississippi.
Fall in a grave.

Speaker 1 In Mississippi is the end of that story. And people ask, they're like, oh, how come, what's it with, you know, all of these

Speaker 1 stories from the South and Mississippi? And I'm like, I have no idea, but I truly just show up, look around, and

Speaker 1 head home with stories like that.

Speaker 2 I really.

Speaker 2 Was that what about is that

Speaker 2 did you was Army of the Dead about zombies? You did an Army of the Dead.

Speaker 1 Ooh, good transition. Army of the Dead, I did do Army of the Dead.
Yeah. In fact, I did it on green screen.

Speaker 1 Right, because famously, you replaced Ophella on that.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 2 And so you had to shoot everything on green screen and then they superimposed you into a film that was already shot.

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah.
Easy.

Speaker 2 Were there zombies in it?

Speaker 1 There were.

Speaker 1 There were zombies. So were you like, ah, ah, but nothing was there? Oh.

Speaker 1 Sean, you saw the movie, I guess.

Speaker 1 Well, I've done it. Clearly, Redforth.
I've done some green screen acting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had to, I flew the

Speaker 1 escape, like the helicopter to. Get in.
Yeah. I've got to take off.

Speaker 1 And I had to do, that's not my typical, you know, acting role where I'm yelling things and fighting things and had to do it all.

Speaker 1 Just literally like three feet away is craft service, just three feet away. Yeah,

Speaker 1 every scene you see me grabbing a donut and it's all on camera.

Speaker 2 But you didn't have to, you weren't a zombie yourself. You didn't have to get into any zombie makeup, did you?

Speaker 1 No, I was just,

Speaker 1 I think, a lesbian. Zombies aren't funny.

Speaker 1 I was just a lesbian flying a helicopter. That's it what you said? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's what I am and everything.

Speaker 1 No take.

Speaker 2 Now, what about in Star Trek?

Speaker 1 I'm a lesbian in space.

Speaker 2 There's lesbians in space?

Speaker 1 There are now. There are? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Now, do you have to wear any alien makeup in Star Trek?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 In fact, they barely put any makeup on me, I think, because they really want to

Speaker 1 have jobs of lipstick and like really big eyelashes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Or you're just sexually active.

Speaker 1 Massive cleavage, too.

Speaker 1 No, truly? No. Wow, no.
My tits are in a dumpster. Yeah.

Speaker 1 In Hollywood.

Speaker 2 Isn't that the title of your new special?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Hey, Tig, let's go back to the very beginning.
All right. So we're in Mississippi.

Speaker 2 All right. We're in Mississippi.

Speaker 1 Everyone's alive.

Speaker 2 Everybody's alive.

Speaker 1 Everybody's happy. That's a good way to start.

Speaker 2 Now, but you did start as a rock band manager

Speaker 1 type of

Speaker 1 promoter.

Speaker 2 I'll help you get on stage and from city to city type of person.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Dude, have you ever spoken English before? What What the fuck is going on? I'm such a journalist.

Speaker 2 But, you know, I do love that about our show.

Speaker 2 Every once in a while, as I said in the intro, we get a friend on here, and I end up learning so much more about them than I've ever learned in our personal life.

Speaker 1 And why do you think that is?

Speaker 1 I'm going to sidebar for a second.

Speaker 1 You don't ask questions about other people, right? Hey, Wayne, keep it quiet.

Speaker 1 Wayne. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 but what about this? So

Speaker 2 you managed bands?

Speaker 1 Well, I really love music. And I play a little guitar, a little drum.

Speaker 1 Drums, yeah, I read that. I read that.
And you're a lesbian, you said. Just a lesbian.
And I'm a lesbian.

Speaker 1 Oh, just a little bit. Sorry, I got confused.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 these are drums with sticks, not the hand drums.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. No.
That's

Speaker 1 I see, I'm still dabbling as a lesbian, so I'm playing actual drums.

Speaker 1 Once you cross over, then you start doing drum circles.

Speaker 1 I've been dabbling for decades, not sold on it.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 I was too shy to perform. I tried, and it was

Speaker 1 nerve-wracking. And so my first girlfriend played in a band.
And so I just started booking the band and working in music in the music. How long was that? You did that?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe three years.

Speaker 2 And are we we driving around in a van? Are we?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Like we went on tour in a van.
You mean like that? Like when we were touring? Yeah, we were in a van. One time we actually rented a friend of ours Bronco.

Speaker 1 And while we were on tour, the hood

Speaker 1 flew up and like bent in half. And

Speaker 1 you couldn't see anything? We couldn't see anything. My God, that's my worst nightmare.

Speaker 2 I literally thought about that just the other day. I was watching.
I could have sworn the hood was vibrating a little bit. I thought, what if this thing flies up? It's like a

Speaker 1 hood of the, it's hood of the, like an SUV type type of thing. A bronze? Yeah, but it was like an old Bronco.
And so if the top goes off, why can't you see? Because there's still a windshield.

Speaker 1 The hood.

Speaker 1 The hood, the hood. Sorry, sorry.
I thought you meant the roof of the car.

Speaker 1 Are you catching every third word?

Speaker 1 I've actually got every fourth word.

Speaker 2 So now, but tick.

Speaker 1 What kind of music was what kind of music did was the band or the band sing?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 folk rock,

Speaker 1 of course, of course.

Speaker 2 What else? So, but now, but you decided to help this band out because you wanted to have a seat that was less exposed to the spotlight.

Speaker 2 But then, while you're doing this, you said, well, hang on a second. Maybe I actually want to

Speaker 2 be upfront again. I want to do stand-up now where there's nothing between you and the audience.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well,

Speaker 1 I moved.

Speaker 1 My very good friends that I grew up with that are still very close to me. We moved from Denver.
We were living in Denver at the time. And

Speaker 1 we moved from Denver to LA and they moved there to pursue TV and film.

Speaker 1 And I was newly out of a relationship. And

Speaker 1 I was like, well, I guess I'll just go with you. And so I went.

Speaker 1 And then when I got there, I saw in the LA Weekly all of the different opportunities to do stand-up, which which had been my top secret dream. Oh, how about that?

Speaker 2 Even though you were shy.

Speaker 1 Even though I was shy.

Speaker 1 And so I spent the first two weeks going to every open mic I could possibly go to.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, how nerve-wracked. I'm getting nervous just thinking about it.
What was that first?

Speaker 1 Don't worry. It all works out okay.
I end up on Smartless. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Now, wait,

Speaker 2 would you just like climb into a bottom of a bottle before you got up there? Like, how did you get over this initial stage fright and and get up there and start doing it?

Speaker 1 Well, somebody had canceled at the show that I was watching. And I asked the person, which is so, I should dig this footage up.

Speaker 1 I have footage of myself. talking into

Speaker 1 a flashlight in a mirror working out material in my studio apartment. Amazing.

Speaker 1 For those two weeks. And so I was practicing in the mirror with in my flashlight.
You just, just, all you have to do is flip it on. You can tell ghost stories right now.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 I had all this stuff worked out over those two weeks that I had been living in L.A. And then I asked the person, I was like, hey,

Speaker 1 could I go on stage? And she was like, sure. And so I did.
And when I say it went well, if you showed me the footage now,

Speaker 1 it would be horrifying.

Speaker 1 But Tig,

Speaker 1 what was the first thing you said? Okay. The very first thing is a true story.

Speaker 1 My friend who I rented the Bronco from

Speaker 1 mad at you because of the returned it without a hood. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We moved beyond that. We got the car fixed and remained friends.

Speaker 1 So my friend, his name was Roe.

Speaker 1 Hey, Ro.

Speaker 1 Well, he passed away, sadly.

Speaker 1 Sorry, everyone's awesome. Anyway,

Speaker 1 Roe called me and told me our mutual friend, Johnny, was going to be in Denver. Can we say hi to Johnny? Johnny's still with us? I don't know where Johnny is.
Say hi to Johnny. Hey, Johnny, Johnny.

Speaker 1 Hey, Johnny. Johnny isn't here.

Speaker 1 So he told me that our mutual friend was going to be in town when I was living in Denver. He said, Johnny's band is going to be there.
You should go see him.

Speaker 1 And he hooked me up with the road manager for me to get tickets to Johnny's show. This is some backstory.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll say. I'll say.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's more.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 I called Johnny's road manager. This is the number.

Speaker 1 This is where the story kicks in. Okay.
So I called the road manager and

Speaker 1 I said, I'm Johnny's friend, could I get tickets to the show? And he said, yes.

Speaker 1 And then at the end of the conversation, he says, now I don't feel comfortable calling you this, but I guess I'll see you tonight, pig.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I said, oh,

Speaker 1 I said, I actually don't feel comfortable calling you or with you calling me pig either. I said, my name is actually Tig.

Speaker 1 And he said, yeah, that's what I said, pig. And I said, no, it's Tig with a T.
And he said, tit?

Speaker 1 And then I just say, yeah, that's right. It's pig tit.
I'll see you tonight.

Speaker 1 So anyway,

Speaker 1 that was my first story.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 1 That must have killed.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 your name, Tig, was given to you by your brother when you were two years old yeah see guys i know how to research

Speaker 1 um and well it's more fun to just ask her how she got it and then she tells us that rather you know what i mean oh

Speaker 1 wait

Speaker 1 okay we can do it now we still roll it a few different ways and then just see which just gets why are you sweating baby i mean okay

Speaker 2 um he loves me your real name i think is one of the best names in the history of nation i don't even i've known you for 75,000 years.

Speaker 1 I don't even know you. Can we say it? We can say it.
It's on Wikipedia. I don't even know if you'd pronounce it correctly.
I know what you think it is. Oh, well, then no, but that's it.

Speaker 1 Well, let's hear that. Let's hear what he thinks.

Speaker 2 Can I guess

Speaker 2 the correct pronunciation? Yes.

Speaker 1 Mathilste.

Speaker 1 That's correct. Matilste.
No, it's Matile.

Speaker 1 Oh. Matile.
Well, then what happens to the principle? M-A-A-T-H-I-L-L.

Speaker 1 M-A-T-H-I-L-D-E. But it's pronounced Mathille.
Mathille. So you don't just the D-E is no, there's no use of it.

Speaker 2 That's French Creole.

Speaker 1 Yes?

Speaker 1 I think it's just French. French.

Speaker 1 My mother was Mathiel. My grandmother was Mathiel.
My grandmother went by Teal. My mother went by Susie, and I go by TIG.

Speaker 2 Wow. And then

Speaker 2 why did your young brother come up with TIG?

Speaker 1 He was older than me. He couldn't pronounce TIG.
Or he couldn't pronounce Mathiel. And somehow he came up with TIG.
And so.

Speaker 2 And his name is

Speaker 1 Ron. Rudd.

Speaker 1 Renault. Renault.
Renaud. R-E-N-A-U-L-T.
Renault. R-E-N-A-U-D.

Speaker 1 A-U-D. Renault.
Renault. Renault.

Speaker 1 Who was French? So people speak French? My mother. Is Renault still with us? Yes, he's the one that fell in the grave and left.
Oh, he's the one who. Renault, let's just say shout out to Renaud Savar.

Speaker 1 Renault.

Speaker 1 One cigarette.

Speaker 1 One cigarette.

Speaker 1 Baguette. Wow.

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Speaker 1 And now, back to the show.

Speaker 1 Wait, I want to know, like, back to the stand-up, and that was a really funny story. Did you know? Because one of the things you're welcome.

Speaker 1 Jesus. Was there a...

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 You don't know.

Speaker 1 We'll stay out of this, okay? Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Was there,

Speaker 1 did you know, because when I first did it, I was too bad.

Speaker 1 This is where we take a break. Sorry, Tig.

Speaker 1 Stand-up? Hang on. This is Tig.
We always do this where we take a break. Sean, and why don't you just tell our audience knows, but tell Tig what your first joke was.

Speaker 1 Let's go ahead. Well, I think.
It's not pigtit, is it?

Speaker 1 Sean wasn't. That's a callback.

Speaker 1 Sean wasn't.

Speaker 1 My first joke was, well, I'll do two because one's not even. One was they say ballet is one of the most difficult things you could do, so just don't do it.
That was the first one.

Speaker 1 And then the second one was.

Speaker 1 Wait, I'm sorry. That was the joke? There was a joke.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 You got it. Say it again.
You're with it. So they say

Speaker 1 that. They say doing ballet is one of the the most difficult things you could do.
So I say just don't do it.

Speaker 1 And then the second one was...

Speaker 1 What was the second part of your speech? Appropriate joke. Appropriate response.
And then the second one was really bad. There's not even a joke.
Wait a second. It did get worse.

Speaker 1 Go ahead with the second one, John.

Speaker 1 Sean, you've got the audience. Now you've got the audience.
He's on a roll. Let him go.
And then what? He had the audience with that first one.

Speaker 1 I didn't know how to write a joke. What was your closer?

Speaker 1 my closer something like hey isn't it funny when you see people outside in public call their pet for the first time like you know hey spot hey whatever but like what if it's like hey mustard come here hey ketchup and it was there's not even a joke it's just bad no but at night at 22 years old i'm like this is gonna kill and it was hair i mean i don't even know what the joke is it's honestly it's mystifying yeah that that somebody would

Speaker 1 just have the not just have the balls to get up and and do it. We know how scary that is.
I'm not a stand-up, and neither

Speaker 1 would be that bad.

Speaker 1 But to go up and think. Think.
Right. That you could just talk.

Speaker 1 I thought I'd put things to say in front of an open way.

Speaker 1 Fuck as a comedy, just to say out loud as a thought.

Speaker 2 And to relay that in front of someone who was...

Speaker 2 Take, you had the number one-selling comedy album in the world

Speaker 2 in 2013.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 number one.

Speaker 1 Even without Sean writing my material.

Speaker 1 Is there any way you can make Sean's, either of Sean's, and I punch the term joke loosely? Would you ever be able to make that work on stage? Do you think that that's...

Speaker 2 Change the name of the animal from mustard or ketchup to something that would be a little bit funnier to hear yelled across a park.

Speaker 1 Or just set that set or just construct a joke about it, which was my question, which I was getting at, which was like, did when you got up and, because you're a very great storyteller, and a lot of your comedy comes from things that have happened to you in life.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Did you, you're welcome to

Speaker 1 honest to fucking God.

Speaker 1 Did you, how did you learn how to craft

Speaker 1 like the rhythm of a joke or a story? Because I got up, the point of me telling you all how bad I was, I got up and thought I could just talk. And were you that way when you first started?

Speaker 1 Or did you know how to write? I thought, and I realized I must be like everybody else that you go watch stand-up and you think, oh my God, I can do this.

Speaker 1 Everybody that does stand-up thinks, oh my God, this is, and you know, there's, I get calls from people that are like, oh, my friend at work is so funny. He's moving to L.A.
Can you meet with him?

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, everybody in the office is hilarious. Everybody watching stand-up thinks they can do it.
And it just was, you know, I took the leap like everybody else.

Speaker 1 And I think my first one did go well. And then I signed up for a competition the second time I did stand up.
And I bombed so hard.

Speaker 1 And the only thing I heard in the audience aside from silence was my friend Derek choking to death laughing at me. And then I ran off stage and we drove back from Orange County back to LA.

Speaker 1 But, um, but it's just been a process of, you know, of,

Speaker 1 I mean, I thought I could do it. I have been doing it.
And, you know, I started out doing kind of deadpan one-liners and then they

Speaker 1 kind of got longer. And I

Speaker 1 will say Will I'm talking no I was going to tell you something I know we always interrupt this is our hallmark of our show is interrupting our show

Speaker 1 and once I was finally no go ahead Will well I just wanted to say what I was kind of agreeing

Speaker 1 I wanted to say that it's not surprising and kind of going off what Sean says it's not surprising because you have one of those things you are the type of person and I don't know you that well but we've known each other over the years a little bit and gotten to know each other a little bit more.

Speaker 1 You are a very funny person and it's not true for all stand-ups. And you're not just a stand-up, but you are a very naturally funny person.
You don't have a choice in it. I will say that.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think that...

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Sean gets that one.

Speaker 1 And you are a very naturally, so

Speaker 1 I think that it does come to, I'm not surprised that the first time you went up, that you were able to sort of connect with the audience because you're a very naturally funny person. I will say that.

Speaker 1 That's what I wanted to say. Well, I appreciate that.
Well, and certainly, after I thought I had gotten my bearings and stand-up, I thought, well, I've got this. And I booked my first

Speaker 1 gig on the road. And it was like in this comedy club in a strip mall.
And I had only done shows in Los Angeles in like kind of hip rooms and whatever.

Speaker 1 And then now I'm like in the middle of nowhere strip mall. And I was staying with friends and they let me use their car.
But the venue

Speaker 1 actually will put you up at a condo and they have a car for comedians. And I was like, oh, I don't need the car, but thanks.
And

Speaker 1 this club was called Wit's End in Denver. Oh, that's good.
And I bombed. This is my first road gig.
I bomb the entire weekend.

Speaker 1 and then i hear before the the second show on friday or saturday i hear the owner saying where is our emergency fill-in comedian and i was thinking oh no

Speaker 1 what happened to nancy because i was thinking something must have happened

Speaker 1 i was mortified i thought she died and and he was like has anyone heard from the emergency fill-in comedian and i'm like what the hell and and then

Speaker 1 then he walks up to me and gives me my check and fires me. And it was so mortifying.
It's again, my first gig on the road. It's the holiday season.

Speaker 1 I walk out the front door and I'm like, oh no, I forgot my friends were coming that night. So my friends are in line to get into the show.
And they're like, woo, we're so excited.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I said, oh,

Speaker 1 I was just fired.

Speaker 1 My comedy was so bad, it caused an emergency.

Speaker 1 And so they're bringing in a fill-in comedian.

Speaker 1 Like they couldn't even stomach me for the rest, like that last night.

Speaker 1 So they said, let's all go meet at the Mercury Cafe. I'm like, okay, I go to get my friend's car and I drive off, hit an ice patch.
No.

Speaker 1 Spin. out of control like in a cartoon.
I'm still in the parking lot of Wits End. Oh my my God.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And then the car stops and I'm of course pointed in the wrong direction. I'm mortified.
I'm like, I thought for sure I was going to be wrapped around a pole.

Speaker 1 And then I start laughing when I realize I live through it because I immediately thought, what if I had used their car?

Speaker 1 Their car was a station wagon from the 70s that had clowns painted on it that said, follow me to Wit's End Comedy Club. And if I had died

Speaker 1 in that moment wrapped around a light post.

Speaker 1 After being fired. After being fired.
Fuck. Fired.
So anyway, it's been a long road, but I'm almost 30 years in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, how did you stick with it with that kind of a start? Why didn't you say, yeah, fuck this. I'm going to start a different career.

Speaker 1 You know, I feel like stand-up is like, if you're in an abusive relationship and you keep thinking,

Speaker 1 it was good once. I can get that feeling back.
Right. You know, because the first time I did stand-up, it was,

Speaker 1 I do think it went well enough. And then the second time, I did not win the $100

Speaker 1 in the competition I signed up for.

Speaker 1 Did you ever think about sending the charts from your number one

Speaker 1 comedy and sending it to the dude in Denver? Well, he also died.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Black widow.
Wow. She must stay away from her.
Out of the path of pig. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Well, how about, do you think that

Speaker 2 your talent, your skill, your angle on all of this has progressively been arcing up? Like, does it continue to get better and better and better and better?

Speaker 1 My attitude?

Speaker 2 No, no, doing stand-up and your experience with it.

Speaker 1 And like, are you getting a- My question is your attitude, yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you find, do you find that, that you're getting is stand-up a thing that can be? I find that I'm getting hopefully a little bit better each year. I continue on doing whatever the hell I'm doing.

Speaker 2 Um, oh, really?

Speaker 1 Do you? I think, I hope. I'm not asking.
He's talking about golfing. Let's be clear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's golf.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 uh, is that something that you're still enjoying? Uh, are you still ascendant in?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I

Speaker 1 finished my last tour and put out my stand-up special.

Speaker 1 And my last tour really kind of ran me into the ground. And

Speaker 1 I'm working in Toronto right now.

Speaker 1 So this painting behind me is not mine.

Speaker 2 That's not you.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask you about that.

Speaker 2 Listener, it's just a shot of

Speaker 2 basically Jesus' home. It's up there in the clouds somewhere.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. It's a nice hotel painting.
But

Speaker 1 I've been working on new material when I have nights off here. and

Speaker 1 that's felt good. But I've had this

Speaker 1 building need and interest

Speaker 1 in doing a one-person show.

Speaker 1 And so.

Speaker 2 But isn't that what you do?

Speaker 1 No, I want it to be a little more of a theme.

Speaker 1 Like a two-act, three-act structure. On Broadway.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 More of a like, but like more like I Love You, You're Perfect, Now Change, like one of those ones that used to pass down.

Speaker 1 dancing.

Speaker 1 Well, my Big Fat Greek Wedding was a one-woman show that turned into a movie because it was her story. So you mean something like that?

Speaker 1 Like a Spalding Gray type of thing? Something. Something like that.
Or like a talk radio? Are we going to keep going with

Speaker 1 more examples?

Speaker 1 So I'll have a copy of it to you today.

Speaker 2 So then it is, so then there's a theme to it and it's a little bit more scripted or fully scripted.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, my stand-up is scripted, but I do interact with the audience.

Speaker 1 If an idea comes to me while I'm doing a show, I'll just go with that and just kind of explore it. Because I don't sit down and write my comedy.
I write on stage in front of a live audience.

Speaker 1 So I do it fully,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 without a net type writing. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Do you, do you, I know you're up there in Toronto working. Do you, when you have

Speaker 1 free nights or whatever, do you still go and perform out like at clubs in Toronto? Are you doing that?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm doing. There's a comedy club

Speaker 1 out here in Toronto Comedy Bar, and I've been doing shows like, I don't know, two or three nights a week. Wow.
Wow.

Speaker 1 You got a comedy bar car?

Speaker 1 They send you a car. It's a comedy bar.
It's a Zamboni. It's a Zamboni.
Comedy bar. Just for a callback.

Speaker 2 Now, you dabbled in,

Speaker 2 you do the acting as well, and then you dabbled in directing with Stephanie, your wife, right?

Speaker 1 And we directed Sean Hayes. Yeah, good luck, oh boy.
I was talking about that. Talk a little bit about that.
Go ahead. Stage two.

Speaker 1 We did. We made this decision last minute to hire him.
We couldn't get anyone else in the room. That was the emergency actor.

Speaker 1 Nancy. That was the emergency fill-in actor.
That was Nancy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was super fun. I laughed so hard those two days.
It was really fun. Is this a project we should plug? What's that? Yes, it's called Am I Okay, starring Dakota Johnson.
Am I okay?

Speaker 1 It came out a couple years ago, right, or something like that? It came out this year. So thanks for being on top of that, promoting

Speaker 1 my hard work. You've been such a good friend.

Speaker 2 So what

Speaker 1 don't forget, he does, or you don't forget, he doesn't ask any questions. He has no idea, and he's not curious about your life.
Yes. Go ahead, Jason.

Speaker 1 You know, I want to say something about the stand-up thing, though, because you know what always blows my mind. You want to change the subject from yourself? No, he has more bits that he used to

Speaker 1 see him. You know what blows my mind is like when when people get up there and they can just, how can you just talk?

Speaker 1 Like, how do you have so much material that you don't, because I'm used to memorizing a script, right?

Speaker 1 And so, but there's nothing, and I know you've written it all, but just to like, if somebody says a topic, you can, you can have the perfectly constructed joke about that thing and you have it all in your, at the bank of your head.

Speaker 1 But it's not all perfectly constructed. It's that I just try to leave my mind open outside of what I've already written or thought about.

Speaker 1 And then, if something crosses my mind or somebody in the audience says something, I allow myself to go with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I got it. And explore and find what's funny about it.

Speaker 1 And now that you've had all of this tremendous success over the years, do people come up to you all the time and say, hey, I'm such a fan. Can you just do, can you say that funny thing?

Speaker 1 Or like, do they try to prompt you to perform for them? I would say

Speaker 1 the most common thing I get is that

Speaker 1 nope no people don't do that but I did this like 15 minute bit about running into the pop star Taylor Dane I did this story years ago and I did it on this American life I ran into her so many

Speaker 1 times

Speaker 1 and the first time I ran into her I genuinely said excuse me I'm sorry to bother you I just have to tell you I love your voice. And she was rude to me and she said, yeah, I don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 And then turned and kept talking to somebody. And then I kept running into her.
And every time I saw her, I was like, oh my God, I'm going to go up and say the exact same thing I said to her.

Speaker 1 Just for my sister, Taylor Dane was a big 80s pop star.

Speaker 1 Just in case people don't know who Taylor Dane was. Was your sister born after the 80s? The fuck are you doing?

Speaker 1 That was mine, too.

Speaker 1 Was it really? You didn't know who Taylor Daniel was. You know who Taylor Dane? Tell it to my heart.
That's a dumb thing to do. Tell it to my heart.
Love will lead me back. Nope.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so you see her a bunch of times. You keep it.
So I see her out to dinner. I see her at cafes.
I see her everywhere.

Speaker 1 And I just walk up and I interrupted her every time and would say, hi, excuse me.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry to bother you. I just have to tell you, I love your voice.
I love your voice. Yeah.
Every time. And it became this.
Who's who the fuck are you? It became this

Speaker 1 experiment that I was doing because I was like. She know was you every time at this point? No, no, she never, never, never did, never did.
Way. Yeah.
And did she, but anyway,

Speaker 1 huh? Is she alive?

Speaker 1 No, she's alive. And then, and then we actually became friendly because of this because word got out that, you know, I was doing this story and then whatever.

Speaker 1 And I did this on this American Life. They did the story and

Speaker 1 then invited Taylor Dane to that performance. And so I met her there.
No way.

Speaker 1 But anyway, people come up to me all the time and say, excuse me, I'm sorry to bother you, but I just have to tell you, I love your voice.

Speaker 1 Amazing. Wait, Tig, that's so good.
I love that you did that. First of all, I love your commitment to shit like that.

Speaker 1 You've told me umpteen stories of things that you do. And one of my favorite, please tell us about some of the things you'll do at parties.
Because it's my,

Speaker 1 these are my favorite. Party bits.
Sure. Party bits.
Actually, you know what, a bit that I did on radio, morning radio, when I first started doing stand-up.

Speaker 1 I'd have to go at six in the morning to, you know, some like Fargo or something to do, to promote my show. And I would always ask the radio hosts to please.

Speaker 1 talk like as soon as I come on the show please talk about how gorgeous I am and just like

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 go on and on like like Howard Stern and certain people just like you are beautiful I mean, look at you.

Speaker 1 And because I thought, oh, maybe that'll get people to the show, but also it really made me laugh to think of people showing up to see.

Speaker 1 This is years ago, and just seeing a disheveled, monotone lesbian on stage, you know, talking about my cats.

Speaker 1 You're like, I didn't know I was going to an indigo girls concert.

Speaker 1 Hey, wait a second, but talk about

Speaker 1 the party bit. Party bits.
It's the fucking

Speaker 1 shit. Oh, one of, I feel like you really liked this one.
But

Speaker 1 my friend Henry Phillips, who is one of the funniest comedians, please look him up and watch everything he does. He's so funny.
Hi, Henry.

Speaker 1 And he has a couple of movies out, Punching Henry, Punching the Clown. I'm in one of the movies.
But anyway,

Speaker 1 he and I do so many bits together. Yeah.
He's so good. And he, I used to live in Venice in California.
And he was like, hey, he's like, like, I'm at a party near your house.

Speaker 1 He was like, I don't know any of these people. He's like, you got to come do some bits with me.
And I was like, yeah, sure. I'll head over.
I love the mischief of it. So I go meet him.

Speaker 1 And we're just loose at this party doing all these different bits that are truly for our own amusement, which is what I do things for.

Speaker 1 And if people catch on or they enjoy it too, that's fine. But

Speaker 1 I love looking foolish. So I go in.
I don't know anybody at this party except Henry. I go into the kitchen.

Speaker 1 There's like five people standing around, you know, leaning against the kitchen counter, having a drink, chatting. And it's a Saturday night, maybe 9.30.

Speaker 1 And I lean in and I just tap the wall and I go, hey, guys, I'm going to be going to bed in like 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 I have no idea if the owner of the house is in there.

Speaker 1 I have no idea if if the host is in the kitchen. I don't know who those people are.
And then I go find Henry and I'm dying laughing.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh my God, I just told five people in the kitchen I was going to bed in 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 And he's like, oh my God. He said, there's like 200 people in the backyard.
You have to go out on the deck and announce that. And I was like, no problem.

Speaker 1 And this is years ago before I was like on TV regularly and whatever. Is it really? And I walk out on the back deck.
Everyone's holding their solo cups and whatever. And I'm like, hey, everybody,

Speaker 1 just so you know, I'm going to be going to bed in like 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 to me, I'm like, you know, it, it, it, I am, I, for all you know, I could be going home and going to bed in 10 minutes. That doesn't mean I own the house.
You know,

Speaker 2 they're bagging, not yours.

Speaker 1 See, there's something about that that I've just always loved. I think it's the funny, it's so funny.
That is profoundly funny.

Speaker 1 It reminds me, I used to always want to do this, but I never had the guts.

Speaker 1 I wanted to drive around like Beverly Hills, Bel Air, like in a fancy car and pull up to gardeners as they're about to start on these big fucking estates and just go,

Speaker 1 roll my window down and go. I just spoke to the missus.
She said, you guys can take the day off

Speaker 1 fully paid and just start relieving gardening crews around Beverly Hills and Bel Air. And they're looking at each other like, fully paid.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys, the missus said, go ahead and take the office off. She had a long night.
You guys, don't turn that shit on. Get out of here.

Speaker 1 I remember one time you texted me to, you said, I'm about to drive by your house. I want you to stand outside and look on your phone, but don't look at me

Speaker 1 as I drive by. And so I was like, okay, I'll do it.
And

Speaker 1 I stood by and I couldn't look up. And you drove by and you said, hey, Sean, hey, Sean.
And I didn't look up. That was the bit.
That was the bit. I had a beat buried in my phone.

Speaker 1 I didn't quite understand it, but it made me laugh.

Speaker 1 You don't understand it? It was like performance art. Yeah.
God, that is so good. You know, Tig, you'd like this.
My buddy, Pete Sarah Finwich and all these English guys, they did this bit once.

Speaker 1 They'd go to a restaurant in London, and they all learned beforehand. They got together, they conspired, and they learned and they...
They sang it was somebody's birthday. So they sang happy birthday.

Speaker 1 And then everybody at the table, like eight of them, launched into a second verse that they had written. So they start singing a second verse to happy birthday.

Speaker 1 And everybody in the restaurant starts looking at each other like, hey, what is this? As if they've never done this second verse.

Speaker 1 How fucking funny is that? Yeah. That's crazy.
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Speaker 2 All right, back to the show.

Speaker 1 Kick, what about the kids? You and now have, with your wife, Stephanie, you have two little, the cutest boys ever.

Speaker 1 Yes, Max and Finn, they're doing well. They have a sense of humor.

Speaker 1 Seven, eight. They are eight.
They will be eight and a half

Speaker 1 this month and huge into golf these days. Truly?

Speaker 1 They are so into golf. It is

Speaker 1 they're so into they're into baseball, basketball, they're on swim team.

Speaker 1 And but yes, Sean,

Speaker 1 they have a sense of humor. My son, Max, I think that,

Speaker 1 well, I tell everyone he's bone dry, and we don't know where he got that.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 2 Who was it? Was there a bone-dry comedian that really kind of defined your comedic sensibility? Like, was it like Stephen Wright or somebody?

Speaker 1 I was really into Stephen Wright. And I also really loved Paula Poundstone.
I thought she was so great at writing jokes, telling stories, and also interacting interacting with the audience.

Speaker 1 I felt like she could do everything

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 still feel that way.

Speaker 1 But yeah, my kids,

Speaker 1 they're like little, a friend of ours described them as like little Midwestern uncles because

Speaker 1 they're just, they have like a certain maturity about them. And

Speaker 1 my son, Max, one of my favorite things that he said when he was four, Stephanie and I were sitting on the couch with Max, Finn, her dad, and our three cats. And Max got up when he was four,

Speaker 1 just got off the couch, and he said,

Speaker 1 I'm getting the hell out of here. All these damn cats

Speaker 1 walked out of the room. I was like, I like your style, kid.

Speaker 1 No way. That is so funny.
Yeah, they're the best.

Speaker 2 Never dogs for you.

Speaker 1 No, I've had dogs.

Speaker 1 I've had a couple of dogs in my life, but

Speaker 1 we call our house Kitty City.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And do you like that the cats just sort of, they take care of themselves? They don't bother you.
You don't bother them.

Speaker 1 I like that in a person.

Speaker 2 Yeah. A dog needs shit, right?

Speaker 1 A cat needs nothing.

Speaker 1 I mean, but I do love an excited dog that's just like about to have a stroke. They're so excited to see it.

Speaker 2 Zoomies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Now, Stephanie, you really make Stephanie laugh too, which is great.
You guys laugh. I love Stephanie.
Stephanie really makes me laugh a lot. Yeah, yeah, and she's really funny too.
She's

Speaker 1 she's so funny, and she's in love with Will.

Speaker 1 I'm in love with Jason, and we don't know where Sean fits into this equation. Sean was with the kids? I love Stephanie.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love Stephanie.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love Stephanie.

Speaker 2 Is there a meet cute there you want to share with us?

Speaker 1 Yeah. We met on the movie, Lake Bell's movie, called In a World.

Speaker 2 The Great Lake Bell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I was deathly ill. I didn't know I had three deadly diseases at one time.
And then

Speaker 1 I collapsed, went away, and dealt with.

Speaker 2 Wait, was this the cancer?

Speaker 1 It was cancer, pneumonia, and this intestinal disease called C. diff.
I had it all three at once. Great.
So I go away. And I was in a relationship.
Stephanie had never dated a woman.

Speaker 1 We really enjoyed each other on set, but I wasn't thinking I was into her romantically. And she wasn't thinking that about me.
So I collapse, I go away. Six months later, I resurface in the world.

Speaker 1 And the movie's going to Sundance.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we exchanged numbers.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I told her, I said, you know, I'm not the biggest texter. And I told her about this girl that texted me incessantly after coffee.
And that she texted that night.

Speaker 1 She said, Sweet Dreams, the girl I had gone out with. And not that I thought Stephanie was into me, but I was just giving her the example that I'm not great at this.

Speaker 1 And that night, Stephanie texted me sweet dreams. And I was like, oh, that is hilarious.

Speaker 1 And then we start texting and it's kind of building. And I'm thinking, oh, I'm really into her.

Speaker 1 And she had invited me. I was writing my book at the time.
She invited me to come meet her and her friends at La Pubelle in Los Angeles. And I thought, oh my God, it's 11 o'clock.
I haven't showered.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing this big wool, Canadian wool sweater with an eagle on my back. I can't go meet her.

Speaker 1 And then I thought, oh, well, she's not even into me. So who cares what I look like?

Speaker 1 And it happened to be Valentine's Day. And so she's sitting at this table.

Speaker 1 But truly,

Speaker 1 she wasn't into women. And

Speaker 1 so she's at this table with friends. I walk into the bar.
She is wearing... a dark blue Canadian wool sweater with an eagle on her back.
No way. And I was like,

Speaker 1 this is insane. I said, let's switch sweaters.
So we switch sweaters and her friend says, get together so I can take a picture of you.

Speaker 1 We go to hug each other and we start making out immediately when we touch each other. And

Speaker 1 then so we end up making out that night. And then she writes me a five million page email the next day.
I get it that's telling me how much she loves hanging out with me, how funny she thinks I am.

Speaker 1 She's not gay, but that she wants to be friendly. Like, goes, I can't tell you how long this email was.

Speaker 1 I'm reading this going, ah, I, because I realize I do like her, you know, but I thought, well, I can't chase her because she's not into it. So I wrote back,

Speaker 1 okay, Dyke.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's the only thing I wrote.

Speaker 1 And then she said when she got that response, she just thought, okay, I like this person. And so now.
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 And then, so, I mean,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 2 however, you're comfortable relaying this, if there's any further in the story, you're willing to go. How does that do you guys just start seeing each other for what?

Speaker 2 Because you want to respect her sexuality, but you want to continue seeing her, but you also don't want to like, you know, work on flipping her or like, how do do you, how does that go?

Speaker 1 What,

Speaker 1 what happens?

Speaker 1 Well, so, um,

Speaker 1 I mean, I just don't like, how do you protect your own?

Speaker 2 How do you protect your own heart? And like, you know,

Speaker 1 go to work. What you're flipping her.

Speaker 1 I didn't, I didn't know that she had

Speaker 1 that, okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't know okay dyke made the impression that it did. I just thought, I need to be lighthearted, let this go and just see her as a friend down the road.
But I knew it was going to take me a beat.

Speaker 1 So I told her, I said, I get it. You know, like when we talked again, I said, I just need some space and then I'll be able to see you as a friend and everything's fine.

Speaker 1 And so I went to Montreal and was doing shows there. And

Speaker 1 she reached out to me like a few weeks later and she said, I'd like to see you when you get home. And I said to my friend who was there with me and I was like, why does she want to what?

Speaker 1 And he was like, because she likes you and i was like no no no i know but she told me she doesn't want he was like what do you think she's like oh i want to see you again so i can tell you for sure i don't like you right and i was like i don't know maybe

Speaker 2 and then you had multiple friends that were females that weren't gay right you had multiple friends that were females that weren't gay so you you were thinking you know maybe this is just another one of those perhaps right yeah i just didn't know what to think but i i got back to la and she came over and she's just a very

Speaker 1 she's a very confident comfortable person. And she's very straightforward.
And, and it's what I realized I'm so into about her.

Speaker 1 Um, and so she sat down on my couch and she just turned to me and said, um, I realize that I, I want to be with you. And I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? And she said, like, I want to be with you. I don't want to, I'm not saying I want to see how it goes or check things out.
I want to be with you.

Speaker 1 And I was like, what? I was so,

Speaker 1 I was so.

Speaker 1 Did you still have the eagle jacket on?

Speaker 1 You still hadn't shouted. You still got a shot.
We took our eagle jackets off and we got down to it.

Speaker 2 And it was just pure.

Speaker 2 It wasn't about declaring as a label or anything. It was just like, all I know is I just really want to be with you, whatever that is.

Speaker 1 It is. And

Speaker 1 that's great. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 we make each other laugh a lot. And very cool.
I love that. I love her so much.
And I love you so much. And I remember one time you had, you were doing your live show and you wanted me as a guest.

Speaker 1 And it was at the Cornwall. Largo.
Where was that? Largo, at Largo. And so we had such a good time and we laughed really hard.
And then the next day, literally the next day,

Speaker 1 I go, yeah, the next morning I go to Le Pan, this restaurant on Larchmont.

Speaker 1 And you walk in and we both had the exact same outfit on that we had, that we were on stage in.

Speaker 1 No wow.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. In those clothes.
And then woke up thinking, well, it's early.

Speaker 1 I just want an egg. I want a couple eggs and I'm going to go home and shower and change.

Speaker 2 Across the city. No one from the show is going to be there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you remember that? Except we live close to each other and dress alike.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, and you know what? I have to say, also, Stephanie directed my latest stand-up special. Oh, no way.

Speaker 1 And was nominated for NEMI, and so was the editor, and so was everyone else except me. I was the problem.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Now, wait, what is the name of that one? Is that one Hello Again?

Speaker 1 That is Hello Again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Very, very nice.

Speaker 1 Very nice. So, wait, are you in Toronto doing stand-up or a movie?

Speaker 1 Stand-up. Show.

Speaker 1 I'm doing a show. Yeah.
I pay attention because I know what she's doing.

Speaker 1 I'm doing Star Trek with Holly Hunter and Paul Giamatti. Yeah.
Oh, great. Wow.

Speaker 2 Do they have to wear the alien makeup?

Speaker 1 Paul, yes. Holly, no.
Are they lesbians in space too? I have to ask. Just for just for full

Speaker 1 academy, lesbians in space.

Speaker 1 That's the new series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't know. I don't know Holly Hunter, but we love Paul Giamatti.
He's just a gem. He's a gem, gem, gem.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And Holly's great too.
And

Speaker 1 obviously a real talent. And then I'm thrown in the mix.
Don't you dare. Don't you dare.
Don't you say that about it?

Speaker 1 But I do have, I mean, close to lesbians. Well, it's across the spectrum.
But my podcast, Handsome, is right here on Planet Earth. It's like my fourth podcast.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know, I've been podcasting for a long time, you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And how are you loving it?

Speaker 1 Are you loving it?

Speaker 2 You're still loving it.

Speaker 1 I really enjoy podcasting. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was so baffled by it in the early days. I think I started in like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, 2006 or something. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 But I do enjoy it. It's such a different way to be comedic and

Speaker 1 tell stories. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you can do it inside the comfort of an air-conditioned room.

Speaker 1 In the comfort of an air-conditioned or heated

Speaker 1 furnished apartment in Toronto.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Up there

Speaker 2 with the Jesus painting behind you.

Speaker 1 Do you want, do do you want, I can, I'll text her real quick, guaranteed she's available. Do you want to have lunch with my mom today?

Speaker 1 I would love to. Would you? She's close.
She's a character. She's a lot of fun.
She'll keep you on your tongue. I'll cook up the lunch.
Okay, let me get up.

Speaker 2 Tig, hurry home and get back to our Sunday rhythm.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we miss you.

Speaker 1 We miss you. I have missed you.
We would love to see you. When does this come out?

Speaker 2 Today.

Speaker 1 It's on right now.

Speaker 1 You're going to tell your family. Yeah.
I'm going to tell all my dead parents to listen.

Speaker 2 But hurry home so we can hang out again.

Speaker 1 There's a better chance of them listening than of Sean's dad listening.

Speaker 1 Wait, how can I naturally mention? Because I wanted to naturally mention something. I'm doing it.
Naturally mention it. You're doing it.

Speaker 1 I have a documentary that just got accepted to Sundance.

Speaker 1 You ready for this? You ready for this?

Speaker 1 And weren't you working on a documentary for a while?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was going to get to that, Will. You know, I've got a bunch of questions.

Speaker 1 Jason, no, Sean, you didn't, Jason, you didn't even know about it. Thank you for asking, Will.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I have been working on a documentary,

Speaker 1 and it is, I had called,

Speaker 1 they're incredible filmmakers. They did the Pamela documentary and the Dr.
Ruth documentary, Serena Williams, all this.

Speaker 1 But I was like, I can't sell you on this person. You have to do a deep dive, not even that deep, on Andrea Gibson.
And

Speaker 1 they called me three days later and they were like, We're in. And they got on a plane, flew to Boulder, Colorado, and started filming.
When does it come out?

Speaker 1 Well, it's going to be at Sundance.

Speaker 1 That's January, right?

Speaker 1 It's January. But Andrea is a brilliant poet, just a brilliant poet, mind-blowing.
Yeah, what's it called? Yeah, where's the documentary going? I believe right now it's Come See Me in the Good Light.

Speaker 1 The title is kind of shifting a little bit as we get closer to finish.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, that's the last I've heard. That's the working title: Come See Me in the Good Light.
But

Speaker 1 it's a phenomenal documentary about a phenomenal person.

Speaker 1 Sorry, mention Andrea's full name again for the book. Andrea Gibson.
Andrew Gibson. Written eight books.
Oh, amazing. Wow.
Incredible. I'll check her out online.
Amazing.

Speaker 1 These guys will love the books yeah we did yeah is there an audio version and there's their pictures

Speaker 2 um now uh that's uh are you gonna go to sundance uh when okay good i'm gonna go to sundance and um

Speaker 1 yeah yeah going to sundance yeah well that's good luck with it um congratulations on that uh finish strong there in toronto and get your ass back home here

Speaker 1 send our love uh to stephanie uh whom we also miss and all of my love to your families

Speaker 1 And I'll see you at Sunday, Funday, anytime I'm home. Very soon.
Yeah, you're wonderful.

Speaker 1 Very wonderful.

Speaker 2 All right. Love you.
Thank you for doing this.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the rest of your day and stay warm up there. Well, truly, thanks for having me.
Of course. Love you all, dear Lady.
Love you. It was awesome.
Love you, honey. It was awesome.
Bye. Bye.

Speaker 2 Guys, that was Tig Notaro.

Speaker 1 Yep. That was

Speaker 2 Tig Nataro spelled T-I-G.

Speaker 1 Yep. That was such a funny story about her name, Good Gord.

Speaker 2 About the pig teeth. You know,

Speaker 1 pigs do have teeth.

Speaker 2 And you can get, you know, did you know you can get milk from a pig?

Speaker 1 That there's pig milk?

Speaker 2 That there's certain countries they drink pig milk.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 2 I'll try. Did you know that? Will, did you know that? I'll try.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know what you're talking about, man. Pig milk.
Okay. Pig milk.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
And people drink pig milk. They put it in cream.
Yeah. You knew that.
Put it in cereal. I'll put it in cereal.

Speaker 1 I didn't. No, no.
Good. I actually, I actually feel worse for now.

Speaker 2 It's not true.

Speaker 1 I was hoping you would say, yeah, of course I fucking knew that.

Speaker 1 You fucking.

Speaker 1 How great is Tig? Take we've known for a long time. I've known Tig for a long, long, long, long time.
She's always been so funny and so unique. Like, there's nobody like her.
They're really, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I just, I love, I just love, because I usually end up sitting next to her at Sunday.

Speaker 1 And I just, I love, I just drink it all up. I love her.
I love every minute with her. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, Willie, I say you call your mom. And um I might do it.

Speaker 2 I would have lunch with your mother in a heartbeat if I was in.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, I would too. I would love.
When is she gonna come down here? I want to talk to her. Um, you know what else I'd like to do?

Speaker 2 I'd like to go to your childhood home. I'd like to see your bedroom, which I bet is still pretty much intact.

Speaker 1 Yes, no, sir. No, no, no, no, no.
I've moved a few times since. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What would we see in your boyhood wall when you were growing up in the house there? Were there like posters of hockey, hockey players? What a

Speaker 2 12, 13, 14.

Speaker 1 Okay, well,

Speaker 1 these are various. So like 11, you know, from the time I was like six to 11, I had a map of the world.
Sure.

Speaker 1 This is true. Huge map of the world.
And then underneath, on the sort of the legend underneath, it had all the countries. And it just had listen, just basic info about every country.
Capital,

Speaker 1 the size,

Speaker 1 it's, you know, sort of square mileage, population, et cetera, for every country in the world. So I had that.
Wow. And then

Speaker 1 when I was a teenager, I ended up having like, I went to boarding school, as you know, for a few years. And then I came back and

Speaker 1 I had a Smith's poster on my wall. Yeah sure

Speaker 1 I had a big the world won't listen and a Morrissey poster. Yeah

Speaker 2 were you kind of like a mod? Did you ever wear like eyeliner?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. But I wore like I wore like tapered like green sort of dickies type pants.
I wore a lot of that. And

Speaker 1 I wore Doc Martin's. Doc Martin brogues.
What are brogues? Like like shoes, right? Like wingtips sort of like. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Like ducky from Pretty and Protection.
Yeah, but I never, but yeah, but like, but never, I wasn't a mod

Speaker 1 in that sense.

Speaker 1 But I, yeah,

Speaker 2 you kept it tasteful, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 You keep it timeless. That's the key.
Oh, okay. Okay, 12 or 13.
12 or 13. Did you have posters of yourself on your wall? Because you were in like Tiger Beat and 16 and all that shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, all the different hairstyles.

Speaker 2 Because there was a different sweater in each one, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. God, I wish it revealed that Sean had a poster review in in his room.
It would be the poster.

Speaker 1 That would be the life of it. I literally had a review.

Speaker 2 I think we said this when Rashida was on the show. I had a life-size poster of Quincy Jones on my wall.

Speaker 1 Did you really? Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 That my dad just put up there for me, and I just never took it down.

Speaker 1 That weird. You never had.
Yeah. All I had was Michael Jackson posters everywhere.
Did you really? When I was a kid. And

Speaker 1 my favorite one was probably

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