"Kieran Culkin"

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Speaker 2 Guys, welcome to today's podcast. How are you both feeling? Does somebody have a gun to your head? Yeah, well, it's just out of frame.
It's not so much a gun as a crossbow. I've never seen you this.

Speaker 2 A crossbow.

Speaker 2 shit have you ever shot a crossbow? Oh

Speaker 2 no,

Speaker 2 did I blow it?

Speaker 2 Welcome to Smartless.

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Speaker 3 Surprise guests, give us a little snap or clap, clap, please.

Speaker 2 There we go.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 There we go. Oh, we are rolling.
The firecracker. Oh, shit.
Hi. Hi.
Hi. How are you guys? How are you? Can I just dive right in? Yeah, do you mind? Oh, you have some prepared material? Go ahead.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I have prepared. Guys, I was in the fucking ER again last night.

Speaker 2 Oh, here's what. Here's what.

Speaker 1 I had a kidney stone. I thought I was having appendicitis or something.
So I had a kidney stone.

Speaker 1 And so I haven't been to bed yet.

Speaker 2 Wait,

Speaker 2 why did you not cancel this record?

Speaker 1 No, it's fine. I'm fine.
I'm actually in a good mood.

Speaker 2 It would have been such a quick text for me.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I hear that's the most painful thing in the world.

Speaker 1 You can't even know. I haven't had one in years and years.

Speaker 2 So you had one out or you had one put in?

Speaker 1 I had one. So the pain was excuse me.
I'm like, oh, Scotty, I got it.

Speaker 2 Scotty, I got it.

Speaker 2 It was awful.

Speaker 2 Can you tell me where it hurts? Is it in the tinky or is it in the kidney?

Speaker 1 No, it's in your side. Yeah, I'm going to say it's in your kidney.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hey, hey.

Speaker 1 And then I'm still a little bit on morphine.

Speaker 2 I still like have a... Oh, that's a

Speaker 2 fun. That is kind of fun.

Speaker 2 Wait a second. I never had.
So, Shawnee, so you're in the hospital last week or whenever it was for a couple, a couple of times.

Speaker 2 Like a month ago, yeah. Right, twice in that one night.
And then

Speaker 2 this, and then you're back, and then you get the full scope thing that you went and had done. And then you have this.
And my question to you is this. Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Are you paying so much attention to your well-being and your condition that you're about,

Speaker 2 you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 What do you mean? No.

Speaker 2 That was a half a sentence. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That because you're so, I'm not saying that the experience isn't real.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, yeah, it's a fucking case. Obviously, it's real,

Speaker 2 but there is a lot of attention paid to your health and to your condition at all.

Speaker 2 Is he potentially creating some of this stuff by having such a public look at it? Because I'm psychosomatic?

Speaker 2 I should have prefaced it by saying I'm not a doctor, and I think that you guys are. But you're on morphine, too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 And also not from a doctor.

Speaker 1 No, but it's like a cycle. I know what you mean, but it's a cycle because if something happens to me, then I fear that I don't want that thing to happen again.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying it's psychosomatic,

Speaker 2 but I am suggesting that maybe you spend so much time and energy thinking about your health and your own condition. I know, I know.

Speaker 2 That if you were to think about other things or other people, and you do think about other people, you're a very thoughtful person.

Speaker 2 But I wonder, do you know what I mean? I don't, again, I don't know. People are going to say that.

Speaker 2 I know that's not, but he's being careless with the food that he eats, you know, so that's sort of like keeping his eye off the ball and being sort of relaxed.

Speaker 1 And that is true.

Speaker 2 You know, it's surprising for somebody who's so concerned with their health because you are quite on top of it.

Speaker 2 You should start smoking. And, you know,

Speaker 2 it's like me.

Speaker 1 You know what, though? I was lying there. I just had like bedhead and I have these scabs in my ankles and I have this IV in my arm.
And I looked at Scotty.

Speaker 2 I looked at Scotty and I go.

Speaker 1 to Scotty and I go, all this could be yours.

Speaker 2 Can I ask you about where the scabs from the ankles come from? Yeah, can I ask them?

Speaker 2 They just

Speaker 2 not to see him, just where they came from.

Speaker 1 I don't know. They just like, I don't know, just dry skin or whatever.

Speaker 2 Wait, so now you've just got like old man scabs? Yeah. Yeah, he's got old man scabs.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 Sean, I keep, I imagine walking into the gym at Sean Jim, walking into the men's locker room, and he's, and he's got a hair dryer to his nutsack.

Speaker 2 He's one of those guys. And you're like, fuck, man.
Morning. Dude, how you doing? You're like, fucking dude.

Speaker 2 These fuckers won't dry.

Speaker 2 What are you doing? That's funny.

Speaker 1 By the way, Jay, I switched the nutcracker to the 21st if you want to go.

Speaker 2 Oh, you did? Okay, great.

Speaker 1 And Willie, please come if you want to go.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go. I'm going to be back in New York.

Speaker 1 Okay. And Jay, we're going anyway.
So if you can go, great. If not, we'll do something else.

Speaker 2 Jay, are you going to be just you or are you going to bring your nutcracker with you?

Speaker 2 No, she'll be be there.

Speaker 2 It's just a great, it's a great, it's a great blow to the coffee chat. And here comes our guest.

Speaker 2 Wait a second. I just want to say one more thing.
I was just thinking about this. And obviously, I smoke from time to time.
And people are going to be, don't smoke.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm a world-class smoker. Yeah.
Yeah, you're great at it. You are.
I really do. And I feel like.
You never smell like cigarettes. You don't smoke a pack a day.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 Obviously, they're going to play this clip at my, you you know, TMZ will play this clip.

Speaker 2 But it should be noted,

Speaker 2 it's so great, isn't it?

Speaker 2 It's a hard thing to beat. Although, you know, when I quit, they didn't have the vapes and the gums and the stickers and shit.
So there are things to replace it now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There are things to replace it. You know what?

Speaker 2 You got a lot of shit in your, you'll, you'll get to it when you want to get to it. No, no one's pushing you.
I know.

Speaker 1 There are things to replace it, but there's nothing to replace our guest.

Speaker 2 Oh, great. You don't even know who our fucking guest is, but you're actually right, though.
Let Morphe and Molly go. By the way, did you know I was about to say that? You could.

Speaker 2 But one of my sort of cheap segues.

Speaker 2 By the way, I did move today from where I'm doing the podcast because I wanted to be a little bit cheerier. Oh, okay.
Good.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You used to be in the whisper booth. Now you're in the middle of the morning.

Speaker 2 I was now in my office just because I wanted to

Speaker 2 just wanted to be in the. Yeah.
I wasn't in the jacket.

Speaker 2 I forgot about my jacket. Remember the jack-shack? The guru.
I think it's the jack-shack

Speaker 2 is covered in cobwebs. I think they're cobwebs.
Okay.

Speaker 2 But you are right. You are right that our guest today cannot be replaced and certainly won't be forgotten.

Speaker 2 I don't know why we even begin to forget because this person is so alive and vibrant right now and has been for a long time.

Speaker 2 Snaps and clicks were very good. You're like this.
They were really good.

Speaker 2 Those are the kind of snaps and clicks of somebody who has confidence, the confidence of longevity in doing what they do. And I tell you, somebody who loves longevity is old JB.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you're going to love this guy because you have a lot. You have certain things in common in that both of you have been performing since you were really, really young

Speaker 2 on a professional level. And I love guests like this and particularly love this guest whom I do not know because they are so fucking talented

Speaker 2 and funny and cool and smart. It's not Kurt Russell, but this person has been nominated for

Speaker 2 and won won Emmys, Golden Globes,

Speaker 2 everything.

Speaker 2 You can't even imagine the number of films you Sally Struthers. You know him from Igby Goes Down, you know him from Scott Pilgrim vs.
the World.

Speaker 2 Michael Sarah. No, it's not Michael Sarah.
Ecker Wright.

Speaker 2 No, you also know him from Soderbergh's No Sudden Move, but you're really going to know him

Speaker 2 really, really, really, really, really well from his new film, A Real Pain, but also mostly Jesse Eisenberg. Succession.
Karen Kulkin. It's Kieran Kulkin.
God damn it. Finally got it.

Speaker 2 Bateman, you ruined the intro when it's just constant guessing. Sally Struthers was close, though.
Sally Struthers was not a bad guess. That was not.
Shirley McClain was pretty close, too.

Speaker 2 I thought, yeah. Oh, Kieran, I'm so happy to see you.

Speaker 3 It's crazy. This is really exciting for me.
This is one of my favorite shows.

Speaker 2 This has been a long time coming. We had a few times where we were going to have Kieran on, and then we couldn't for various reasons that we won't get into.
But anyway, Kieran, yes.

Speaker 1 So he's

Speaker 3 a month ago. And Sean, you can't, you didn't even cancel.

Speaker 2 You were in the emergency room? Yeah. What, Jay, what were you going to say?

Speaker 2 I just wanted to frame up the 90-second delay on Sean there going, oh, yes, it's Kieran. Just then.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Fucking morphine is because of the morphine, right?

Speaker 1 No, no, because I remember he was supposed to be on. I didn't know who it was, but you must have been that guest that

Speaker 3 mine was not kidney stones.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 2 but it was bee, but it was beyond his control. Have you ever had a kidney stone or have you ever seen one?

Speaker 3 No, to me, that's my biggest nightmare. But I thought the, like you said, I thought the pain came from the pee-pee, not the

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 it starts in your back and the kidney. That's why it's a kidney stone, and then it works its way through to the bladder.
And now it's out, so it's sitting in my bladder.

Speaker 1 So I have another painful thing coming when I pee it out.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. Because you're going to pee it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because when you pee it out, that's when it hurts, but it only hurts for five, you know, two seconds.

Speaker 1 They break it down, right?

Speaker 3 Don't they? Like, right?

Speaker 1 If it's big, this one wasn't big.

Speaker 2 I think they also have a small tool that can spread your aperture there at the end of your tinky. And I think that's a little bit.
That's the worst thing I ever heard. Yeah, meatis.
The meatis.

Speaker 2 The dime slot. It's a clamp.
When does that come out? A reverse clamp.

Speaker 2 When does that come out?

Speaker 3 When is that? Do you just like wait until it comes out?

Speaker 2 It comes out January 15th, right? Is President's Day weekend? Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 Buy a new mattress, pee out of kids them.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna, it's gonna be a huge opening weekend.
Wait, Shawnee, is that truly the next stage? Is the breakdown and then the pee out?

Speaker 1 Your body breaks it down. I mean, no, your body doesn't break it down.
It just passes through, what is that? The thing that the tube that goes from your kidney to your penis.

Speaker 2 Your penis.

Speaker 1 No, that's your penis hole.

Speaker 2 Tube. P-tube.
Oh, God. Something like that.

Speaker 1 Anyway, and then it hangs out in the bladder. Anyway, Kieran, how are you? A bunch of doctors.

Speaker 3 This is great.

Speaker 2 We're doing well.

Speaker 2 Welcome to our show.

Speaker 3 I love this. This is exactly what I thought I'd be talking about a bunch of bullshit.
I got my wife, or rather, Santa Claus got my wife a hoodie last year that said, explain it to me like I'm Tracy.

Speaker 2 No, come on.

Speaker 3 You should sue because I didn't buy it through you. That's merch money that you guys are.

Speaker 2 Is that an Etsy? Is that an Etsy?

Speaker 3 It was like something.

Speaker 3 I think it was, or like Redbubble or one of those fucking things, you know?

Speaker 2 Wait, hang on a second. Karen, I don't want to drink.
I'm not going to be Tracy. I want one of those.
I do, too. Hang on, I do want to say one thing.

Speaker 3 I can also talk at the same time.

Speaker 2 No, you can't. I can't believe that JB knows about Etsy.
That's the thing that I'm most shocked about.

Speaker 2 How do you know about Etsy? Dude, where do you think I get my throw pillows?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Karen, my sister is a big fan of yours, by the way.

Speaker 2 As am I.

Speaker 2 Wait, Tracy's. That's Tracy.

Speaker 3 You haven't seen anything of mine, right? Haven't you guys not watched it?

Speaker 2 I'm going to make a sweatshirt that says, find somebody who loves you the way that Tracy loves Kieran. Why don't we just say that? Get that one.
Karen, I do want to get this out of the way.

Speaker 2 I am very embarrassed to say I am the only person on the planet that is yet to start only because I'm very serious about my ingestion ingestion of quality product.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm waiting till I can sit down and just suck it up like the addict that I am.

Speaker 2 And it's one of it.

Speaker 1 It's one of the biggest shows ever.

Speaker 2 Everybody I know loves it. I've never heard a bad thing about it.
And I'm embarrassed to say I started it and then I got and then I was like, okay, I got to restart it and I haven't.

Speaker 2 But I did see most of season one. You are so fucking funny, dude, and so facile and so quick.

Speaker 2 You can tell that it's, obviously, it's really well written and there's a great cast, but you have a facility to you that is really unique and really like impressive. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Thank you. It seems very, I have seen enough clips of not only that, but everything else you've ever done.
I've seen those things. You do seem very comfortable with what you do.
You are.

Speaker 2 And that's like, it's fun to watch.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 then you were

Speaker 2 a greater actor than I thought you were because you always look like you're having fun. You're not working too hard in the best sense of the phrase.

Speaker 2 And as a viewer, you're just, you're relaxed watching you do your thing because it looks like you're having fun and you're not stressing about your performance. And are you hitting your beats?

Speaker 2 And, you know,

Speaker 3 I don't hit beats or marks or any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 2 I can't wait to see real pain.

Speaker 3 About like 10 years ago, my wife sort of made fun of me. I was doing a play and I was like, I need to go to work.
And she went, work. What you do is literally called play.

Speaker 2 Right. No, my wife has the same thing.
Doesn't give it up. Yeah.
Yeah. But she's like, she's kind of right.

Speaker 3 Maybe I'll go out there and just have fun with it and just stick around. This is not extra serious.
This is just us, you know, I don't know. I'd like to go out there and play.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And do you think that that level of comfort and ease is because you started so young and it was not really ever framed initially to you as like an occupation, a job, a way in which

Speaker 2 was it, though? Or was it, or was it framed as a way of paying the rent?

Speaker 3 There's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that I think because I started doing it at six, like that that's helped me now is like i learn lines incredibly fast i know i've listened to the show a lot jason i know you're the same way yeah like that's like chase i often like i'm on a real pain do you guys know jesse eisenberg oh not yet no oh no you should meet him he's just he's seems awesome anxiety personified um and nothing caused him more panic than me walking to set and going what are we shooting today and he's like

Speaker 2 No, I wrote, there's like a whole page-long speech.

Speaker 3 What's wrong with you? He was like, I learned the lines fast. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I I don't like to rehearse. And I just sort of like look it over really quickly and go, oh, those are the words.
I'll just, you know, I'll probably rely on instinct.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just go. I mean,

Speaker 2 yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 2 JB's really good at that. I think that that could be, obviously, it works for you and it's very freeing, right? So that you're not, yeah, you're not stuck into it.

Speaker 2 But there are certain parts, if I was more courageous, I would take on some parts that probably deserve a lot more research, study, practice.

Speaker 2 But I do really enjoy kind of not

Speaker 2 acting. I think we've talked about this before.

Speaker 2 I love watching actors that do act. I enjoy you not acting too.

Speaker 2 Believe me.

Speaker 2 I like being the audience as opposed to being the character.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Jason, do you take it personally when everybody keeps encouraging you to direct more?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's starting to burn.

Speaker 2 But wait, but Kieran,

Speaker 1 about on succession, though, those big scenes where there's lots of people fucking speeches and dialogue and like, I mean, you almost have to memorize everybody else's lines too, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, sort of. And I can do that fast.
There was, you know, I've done things like that. Like Sarah Snook and I had a really good rapport.
So sometimes I would say, hey, can you just take my lines?

Speaker 3 Or, you know, vice versa.

Speaker 3 We even did a scene once where like, by like the third take, I just jumped in and stole her line.

Speaker 2 and gave her a little side eye.

Speaker 3 And then she looked at me like, all right, game on. And then later on, she took mine, you know?

Speaker 2 That's right. I love that.
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 but we ran it like we sort of did it like a play there wasn't really a lot of rehearsing we would go in there we would always run the full scene like three four maybe five times cameras were always vaguely somewhere uh there was no such thing as like coverage pickup shots really

Speaker 3 wow wow i remember like in a camera system like he showed up it was like a new guy and uh we were kind of rehearsing he put a mark down and i just looked i stopped the rehearsal and looked at him and said first day yeah

Speaker 2 yeah that sounds like arrested development you got multiple cameras and they're just sort of tagging different stuff on each take And by the time you run it three or four times, it's fully covered.

Speaker 3 That's why that show was so freaking alive. I'm on my third viewing of that show.
That show was great.

Speaker 2 We were never, yeah, but it's true. We were never really aware of the cameras in that way.
And talk about a sense of play.

Speaker 2 Truly, we had that same feeling, which was it was super fun and you could kind of do anything.

Speaker 3 It's so alive that that's why, like, because you guys were connecting and like...

Speaker 2 you guys were very alive and that's what people respond to i think when we didn't learn we also didn't learn our lines before we would we would kind of do it we we'd have we'd have a sort of a camera blocking as it were it was pretty loose and and we would just kind of

Speaker 2 everybody would just kind of throw it out there and right jb and we yeah how many times do you remember when we that time we would come back to shoot uh that extra the first netflix season and the whole the first day jason and i had a 12-page two-man scene which was just just do you remember that and then we were walking towards stage mitch hurwitz comes up to us and he goes hey guys um so i kind of rewrote the thing and we're like uh-huh So he gave us, and we're just going like this on the way to going, uh-huh, uh-huh.

Speaker 2 And then, okay, you're going to come in here, you come in the front door. All right, I'm going to go there.
You're going to go there, and rolling, and here we go. Perfect.

Speaker 2 And you just kind of fucking go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, your back's against the wall.

Speaker 3 You got to go.

Speaker 2 And Karen, do you, do you, are, are you, are you

Speaker 2 excited to find another project that is, that is similar to that?

Speaker 2 Is it, is it now a way in which you love to work that you'd love to replicate on all future jobs, or do you want something like the polar opposite, you know, where it's very, you know, specific and measured?

Speaker 2 And what do you think?

Speaker 3 That is a really good question because I think, like, when I started working on succession, I had to throw

Speaker 3 everything that I used to do out the window because I'd never done a TV show before. My thing was like

Speaker 3 be off book months before, learn everyone else's lines and be extremely prepared.

Speaker 3 And then, because it's the nature of a TV show where you don't know the next episode, and also our show, we were getting rerates on the day, similar to what you just said,

Speaker 3 I had to abandon that and just go fly by the seat of my pants. But it it lent itself to that character because he was the kind of guy who

Speaker 3 could sort of talk his way in and out of any situation. So he didn't really have to think before he spoke.
So it was sort of like he was that guy.

Speaker 3 So I've been trying to mentally prepare for, like, as it feels like going backwards, like, you know,

Speaker 3 doing a job with coverage.

Speaker 3 And so when we started doing a real pain, I sort of thought we were going to do that, which we did kind of on the first day or so.

Speaker 3 But the character in that movie is like the most spontaneous, sort sort of surprising person.

Speaker 3 It's the kind of thing where just when you think you sort of have him down, just to spite you, he's going to give you a different reaction than what you're expecting.

Speaker 2 Which is a great counterbalance

Speaker 2 to Jesse's character, correct?

Speaker 3 Exactly. Yeah.
And he's, and you know, and he wrote it. He directed it.
He like shot listed the whole thing. Before I got there, he like shot it on his phone playing my character.

Speaker 3 And he would tell me things like, okay, so in this scene, you sit over there. And I would go, how do you know?

Speaker 2 He's like, well, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 How do you know? I was like, well, we haven't tried it. He goes, well, why can't you sit there? I said, well, maybe I could, but we haven't tried it.
What do you mean? Why doesn't it work?

Speaker 2 I'm sure it works. And we talk away in a freaking circle for a while.
I love you get you get to sit the first day. He's like, hey, I got to cut of the movie right here.

Speaker 2 You were great. We're just doing pickups today.

Speaker 2 So then, was it how was he

Speaker 2 would say, well, yeah, maybe I don't sit there. Maybe I'd stand over here.

Speaker 2 That way he would just like throw out all of his coverage and just be like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 3 He kind of abandoned it on like the second or third day.

Speaker 2 Wow. Really? You forced him to.

Speaker 3 Well, because, yeah, well, we had to shoot this sequence um that he had mapped out but the the whole idea of it was like we're gonna i want my picture taken in front of the statue and then i start gathering the other people on this tour group to come with me and he had um

Speaker 3 planned planned it all out and i was like well isn't sort of the point to just for me to get them into the idea and we're all going to take a photo together and he's like yes do you mind if we just try it once and then he basically just told the cinematographer like never mind the shot list pick up the camera that's cool dude that's great though how cool is that because then you guys ended up creating something together.

Speaker 2 It was much more collaborative.

Speaker 2 And I wonder if, and JB, you can kind of maybe address it a little bit, having directed so much now.

Speaker 2 Having that for Jesse, I don't know, we should ask him, having that sort of set, that shot list, everything the way he wants to see it. And he was so ready and so regimented.

Speaker 2 You come in, you kind of throw a wrench in that whole thing. And I bet you freed him up in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 Maybe. I think it freaked him out a lot, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think it took me. I think it scared the shit out of him.
But yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because the clock is ticking. You got this call sheet.
You got to get done in 12 hours. And it's like, yeah, now I got a fucking pain in the ass actor that's throwing it all up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but we ended up getting our scenes a lot faster, actually. That's how I felt anyway.

Speaker 3 I was sort of like, well, you know, let's just run the whole thing a couple of times instead of picking up these little pieces. And then, you know, you get to shoot it how you want.

Speaker 2 And we will be right back.

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Speaker 2 Kieran, now you're going to take all of that, that way you're working, all that kind of stuff. How is this going to be different?

Speaker 2 You're now going to go and you've worked, obviously,

Speaker 2 you've done theater before, but you're going back to Broadway. Is that right? In the spring?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I am. Glen Gary, Glen Ross.

Speaker 2 Glen Gary Glen Ross.

Speaker 2 With

Speaker 3 yes, but no.

Speaker 2 30 casts. With? You need an understudy? Who is it?

Speaker 3 Where it can be my understudy. Bob Odenkirk's in it.
Bill Burr, Michael McKean.

Speaker 2 Oh, great.

Speaker 2 Look at that. I know.
That's a good one. What a cast.
What a fucking cast.

Speaker 3 I'm terrified. I thought I was.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 When do you open?

Speaker 2 March-ish.

Speaker 3 I don't know. They don't even have a theater, but they keep telling me that.

Speaker 1 I think you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 Try the Tabasco. It's spicy.

Speaker 4 It's big.

Speaker 2 It's a great theater, the Tabasco.

Speaker 2 Goodbye, Oscar. And it was a great theater.

Speaker 1 Good night. Good night.
Good night, Oscar. Good night.

Speaker 3 Are you about to ask, Sean? Are you about to ask me about funny theater stories?

Speaker 2 Yes, if you have any things that happened.

Speaker 1 If you have any, please share them. I love it.
But

Speaker 2 look, Kieran, you can't. Let him tell a theater story.

Speaker 3 No, I wasn't actually prompting myself for a funny bit. I just know that she likes to ask that.
Or it's audition stories.

Speaker 1 Yes, jump in. I love those are my favorite stories if you have.

Speaker 3 I got a really quick one, which is I did a play 10 years ago with Michael Sarah.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 3 This is our youth. And I had food poisoning.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 3 the moment the show started and the lights came up, I realized, oh, I'm fucked. So I spent like an hour just trying not to vomit.

Speaker 3 And by the end of the first act, I had this whole speech and I realized I can't open my mouth. I'm going to vomit.

Speaker 3 And I have this whole speech where i have to get the money there's an amount and what i'm spending it on and i stood up next to the to the door to leave the apartment i'm wobbling and i have the speech and there's like a five six second long pause that's not supposed to be there and i hold my hand out and i just went money

Speaker 3 and he put the money in my hand i ran out and the stage manager i guess had put a bucket right next to the door and i started violently

Speaker 3 loudly vomiting in this bucket. They were trying to drag me away, but I couldn't.
I was just holding on to this bucket for dear life vomiting.

Speaker 3 I asked Michael afterwards, I said, Could you guys hear me? He goes, Are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 2 He goes, It was the most surreal shared experience I've ever had with a group of people of listening to a grown man vomit in a bucket.

Speaker 2 I'm just imagining Michael's just dry takes out to the house while everyone's hearing. Just like

Speaker 3 he said he grabbed a comic book and started trying to casually read a comic book as if this wasn't happening

Speaker 2 until you made your re-entrance.

Speaker 3 No, the understudy came in in act two.

Speaker 2 No, wow, really?

Speaker 3 While I spent, yeah, I was vomiting for upstairs for the next few hours and they somehow dragged me home for hours more of vomiting that's the best theater story we've heard yet that's really

Speaker 2 i think that's really great i love that so wait so this was in london then no that one was in new york but uh wikipedia is correct i did do that play in london uh like eight years before no no no no well you're the one who had time to actually do the research i actually do know that you did this is our youth also in london uh i have a very close relationship with this is our youth because the original cast uh missy yeager was in the original cast, whom I lived with at the time.

Speaker 2 She was my girlfriend in the 90s. I knew that.
And I remember when they first did it, she and Kenny first did it, and with Mark and Josh Hamilton, I saw it about 42 times. Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's a great play.

Speaker 2 It's such a

Speaker 2 brilliant play.

Speaker 3 I can't let it go. Like, I played it as the character Warren in London, and I felt like I never got it right.

Speaker 3 So I spent like years trying to do it again and then realized I actually was right for the other part. I just had to spend years convincing Kenny Laundering that I was right for that part.

Speaker 3 And then I got to do it like in Chicago, Sydney, you know,

Speaker 2 I can't seem to let it go. Yeah.
Oh, that I did not know. Would it make a good movie?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I've always tried to crack that one.
I don't think I, I don't know.

Speaker 2 What about that? What about what about directing a movie? Directing or anything.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I don't have that thing.

Speaker 2 You don't have a directing thing? I'm not that imaginary. I doubt that's true.
I doubt that. I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You've been around film, and you've been making films since you were, as you said, sexual. Well, first of all, what was the first, let's get into this.
What was the first professional

Speaker 2 experience you had working in TV, film, et cetera?

Speaker 3 The first professional experience I had was a commercial when I was six. And I actually don't quite know what it was for, but it was like for something to do with learning disabilities.

Speaker 3 And I remember that I was put, the concept was I'm standing in front of a chalkboard with chalk in my hand and I don't know how to solve the easy thing in front of me. And

Speaker 3 the kids in class are supposed to be calling me dummy and stupid, all that. And I have a distinct memory of being there and the director going, okay, he's like action.

Speaker 3 And he starts going, dummy, idiot, stupid.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. And like even then, even then, I'm thinking like, you know, I get it.

Speaker 3 I'm six. Like, stand here and look sad.
I'm not fucking method. I'm six.

Speaker 2 What's wrong with you? Right, right, right. Oh, my God.
I think you just got to be like, but why do I have, I have this image of you.

Speaker 1 I can't remember what I was watching where you were, either you hosted or your brother hosted SNL.

Speaker 2 Oh, good. I thought you were going to say I have this image of you in my hard drive.
Okay, keep going.

Speaker 2 Well, that's Leah.

Speaker 2 That too. But wait, why were you on?

Speaker 1 Where did I, what was I watching where they did a zoom in on you and you were like on stage on SNL or something?

Speaker 3 I, I, I hosted SNL a couple years ago, and it was 30 years.

Speaker 1 That's what it was.

Speaker 3 It was 30 years almost to the day. It was like a couple days shy of being 30 years from when my brother hosted.
And I got to be in like three sketches.

Speaker 2 So they have like, I got to be there for the good nights and stuff like that. That's really cool.
That was so cool. Was that surreal?

Speaker 3 That really was. And And it was one of those things I thought would never, ever happen, but was there's very few like things I um

Speaker 3 like I said, I'm not very ambitious. Uh, I don't like have these big aspiring dreams, but like hosting SNL was like that one.
That one and like voicing the Simpsons, which I still haven't done yet.

Speaker 3 Those are like the two things I've always wanted to do.

Speaker 2 Here they come. I remember, I remember one time, I remember when JB got was asked to host the first time.
This is a true story. And

Speaker 2 you probably don't remember this. And you were first,

Speaker 2 you got asked asked to do it. This was in, you did it in like January of 2005, I think.
It wasn't after like the first year or second year about it. Second year, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was January 2005. And I remember you going, dude, they just asked me, I'm going to host SNL.
And I go, that's fucking great. And you go, I mean, it's like a dream come true.

Speaker 2 And I was like, yeah, no shit.

Speaker 2 Obviously, it's a fucking, what do you think you're fucking this?

Speaker 2 Well, this wasn't a dream coming true for me. Oh, is it?

Speaker 2 No, but a lot of people, but there's a lot of people, and I won't mention their names here because maybe they're not excited about it, but

Speaker 2 they will never host SNL because it's so frightening to them. I've heard that.

Speaker 2 It's like the thing they would least like to do. And they've turned it down a million times.
There's tons of them. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 That's probably where I was coming from. Okay, that's.

Speaker 3 I don't know my favorite, my favorite good nights stories, you know, like, because when you, when you do the good nights at the end, all that's on the cue card is like the musical guest and anybody else that showed up.

Speaker 3 And like, while you're like five seconds TV, Lauren goes, Okay,

Speaker 3 enjoy. And I go, What do I say? He goes, anything you want, and walks away.

Speaker 3 And all I'm doing is looking at the cue cards. And then, you know, but I said the normal good nights, but my favorite I've ever seen was Liam Neeson hosted like in early 2000s.

Speaker 3 And the camera cuts to him and he just goes, modest mouse.

Speaker 2 And that's just quiet.

Speaker 3 And then they just start playing the music.

Speaker 2 It's so good. It's just reading the cards, not doing anything.

Speaker 3 You literally just read the cue card on his mouse.

Speaker 2 I had started hugging.

Speaker 2 Karen,

Speaker 1 you can't be you and not be super smart.

Speaker 1 Like, you seem hyper-intelligent because while you talk fast, like I usually do, not today on morphine, but you talk, but you, you, it seems like you're firing an all-cylinder.

Speaker 2 You had to smoke the morphine. I don't get it.
So

Speaker 2 they give you the option. You're like, no,

Speaker 2 I still have it.

Speaker 1 I have a what is it called? A drip.

Speaker 1 But you seem really like, you talk fast, which means you think fast, which means you can probably, like,

Speaker 1 when Will was talking to you or Jason talking about directing, it seems like people who fire in all cylinders all the time can do stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So if you don't want to do that, what do you do to like occupy all that extra bandwidth?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 God, I don't, I don't know, drive my wife crazy. I don't even have like hobbies.
I don't like, not even, I do like, you know, wordle cordle bullshit.

Speaker 2 Like I know you guys do. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Isn't weird weird that I know stuff about you because I listen to your show too much will pull him in there'sn't there's that that empty seat have you guys ever filled my seat yeah no we haven't

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 we still play every morning yeah I'm still wordle quirdle and octurtle

Speaker 3 I haven't done in a while yeah I also like

Speaker 2 in a widel

Speaker 3 what a dipshit yeah you just said I'm smart and I speak fast

Speaker 2 quirdle was really I will say today was really tough and it was a bust uh we had three busts

Speaker 2 on Cordle today, which was a big, it was sending shockwaves through our

Speaker 2 octurdle, Cordle, Wordle. What we call Nurdle.
Now, Karen, I find

Speaker 2 Nurdle does exist. It's a map one.
You're really saying you do not have a hobby.

Speaker 2 I don't buy it. Tell me.

Speaker 2 Well, you live in New York full-time. Are you in New York guys?

Speaker 3 I live in New York full-time, but also I'm amazed that people do things in a day. I just don't, I don't get it.

Speaker 2 But so you wake up.

Speaker 2 Exactly. You get the kid kid off to school.
How many kids you have?

Speaker 3 That's it. That's the whole, I just woke up, and then suddenly, like, I'm already getting ready for bed.

Speaker 2 How did that happen? What did I, what did I say? How many kids do you have?

Speaker 3 I got two, a three-year-old and a five-year-old. So that's my hobby, I guess.

Speaker 3 Is that anytime I'm not like, this is really lovely and I really want to be here, but I feel like any time I'm doing something, I'm just trying to get home to be with the kids.

Speaker 2 Right, right. Exactly.
And then are you like me? Do you put on the PJs as soon as you're home if you know you're not leaving again the rest of the day, even if it's 1:30 in the afternoon?

Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 I mean, like my walking around, like it's a pair of shorts and a big t-shirt, but yeah, it's the same idea.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then, so, then, is it television? Is it a book? Like, what are you? You're not just sitting on a couch staring at the wall.

Speaker 3 God, I haven't read a book since I had a kid, so that would be five years ago.

Speaker 3 I forgot you're not a reader because words just keep coming at you, right, Jason?

Speaker 2 Yeah, TV, yes, it's too much.

Speaker 2 We're watching TV, the words just keep coming at you, they really do.

Speaker 3 They just, it's relentless. Like, you know,

Speaker 3 almost no time for TV or movies, unless like I can put it like in a schedule. I don't know.

Speaker 2 So when you're done with us today, you log off and then what? What happens?

Speaker 3 I have like a little Zoom meeting right after you and then I have to go do some. I'm still doing press for the movie.
So then like about an hour after that Zoom, I go do a press.

Speaker 3 I actually don't know what the thing is I'm going to. I stopped looking at the itinerary.
They tell me to like get in the car at 11.30. I get in at like 12.15 and hope for the best.

Speaker 3 I literally.

Speaker 3 This happened a couple weeks ago. I got in the back of a car about 45 minutes late and the guy said Delta Airlines and I went I don't know know and he said uh-huh he goes JFK and I said beats me man.

Speaker 2 I really don't fucking know you probably know

Speaker 3 literally I wasn't even sure if I was going to the airport except for that I had a bag that was already packed I got to the airport I put my passport in the machine and as I put it in I realized I don't know where I'm going today.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it was a good thing too, because it was a long flight. I was going to Warsaw.

Speaker 2 I'm glad I brought my passport. Oh, why are we going to Warsaw? Warsaw?

Speaker 3 The movie was shot in. Oh,

Speaker 2 this movie.

Speaker 3 Okay, sorry. Yeah, this movie.
It was shot there. Had like a.

Speaker 2 How did you like Warsaw? Yeah, I was about to say.

Speaker 3 I hardly saw it. We were shooting like six-day weeks.

Speaker 2 More like No Saw. That was great.

Speaker 2 All right. Yeah,

Speaker 2 that was good. Good for you, Will.
I like it.

Speaker 2 Poland, I hear, is a very, very beautiful country.

Speaker 2 Oh, you've been hearing that? I have been hearing that. I have not yet visited yet.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We're like

Speaker 2 on the grapevine or

Speaker 2 text threads.

Speaker 3 Really nice parks. And my wife's from London, and she always brags about how the parks in London are the best in the world.

Speaker 3 the best parks she's ever seen were in warsaw really

Speaker 3 yeah so she went with you the kids went with you at the beginning they were there for the first like 11 to 12 days and then once they left i was yeah popping and how long how long were you alone uh without them 25 days uh that was yeah

Speaker 3 oh no that was murderous yes 25 shooting days that's five 25 full no 25 full days 25 full days and actually yeah i tried to actually back out of the movie once i saw that that was the schedule jesse didn't know about that wow um Because I had recently, I don't know if you guys have these rules.

Speaker 3 Like I just did, when I was doing succession, I had to do eight days away and I was like, that was tough, but manageable. And then I had to do 11 and went, I can't do that.

Speaker 3 Eight is my, that's my new rule.

Speaker 2 Wait, you live in New York. The show is shot in New York.
Why would you? Jason, that's the opposite of your rule, right? Which is it's minimum six months away

Speaker 2 or you're out. Oh, they're just so noisy, these kids.

Speaker 2 What about, wait, where did you have to go for succession that took you out for eight and 11 days out of West New York?

Speaker 3 A lot of places, you know, like there's usually like once per season watch the show that we ended up somewhere else in,

Speaker 3 you know, Italy, Norway.

Speaker 2 Sean's never seen development, and we've been doing this, Pod, and we've been friends for years. I know, still? Yeah, I'm not.
Still, I haven't seen it. I always watched it three times.

Speaker 3 I haven't seen Ozark. It's okay.

Speaker 1 I always say I've seen it as much as they've watched Will and Grace.

Speaker 2 I've seen a lot of Will and Grace, and I was fucking on Will and Grace.

Speaker 2 You are on Will and Grace. Yeah, so why don't you fucking, when you're sitting there passing your stone and nothing else, you can't do do fuck all watch a couple episodes.
So so

Speaker 2 you guys shot in incredible locations for succession that I do know. You guys shot like in Croatia, Tuscany, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Norway. We were all over the

Speaker 3 house.

Speaker 2 I know. How good is that?

Speaker 3 But it wasn't that, no, it wasn't that like nice. I remember like at the end of season two, my wife was like heavily pregnant.
It was August.

Speaker 3 She's back in New York and she was basically complaining about hot it was and she was alone and all this stuff. And she's like, and you're on a yacht in Croatia.
I'm like, I'm not on a yacht.

Speaker 2 I'm on a fucking set it's not like I'm going swimming between cakes and all that it's like that's the thing when we travel to all these places unless you can specifically get some time off after you're not really seeing the stuff yeah i don't know right um wait wait karen so so you've always been in new yorker i want to get back to this because i saw a video uh uh something of you recently um not even not even in anticipation of doing this i just saw it out in the world of you revisiting your childhood apartment oh wow yeah oh yeah that was on cbs sunday morning which is a great show Yeah.

Speaker 2 Right. That was a great show.
Yeah. And it was really cool.
And I loved you going in and then seeing your former neighbor. And

Speaker 3 that was not planned at all. We were just like, they were setting up a camera outside, and he was like, oh, hi, Kieran.

Speaker 2 That was a palace. Oh, thanks.
Yeah. So

Speaker 2 talk a little bit about like growing up in New York and auditioning for stuff and what that was like. And

Speaker 2 now,

Speaker 2 as I mentioned in the lead-in,

Speaker 2 Jason, we often talk about people about being able to have that longevity and be able to kind of take what you be a child actor and have that translate into becoming an adult actor as well is

Speaker 2 really rare. Yeah.
Petrifying.

Speaker 3 I feel like I feel like other than what I mentioned earlier about like learning lines fast and knowing like that stuff, I feel like everything I did as a kid, like, I don't think I apply any of the acting stuff I used to do as a kid to what I do now.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I think it's the

Speaker 3 Yeah, because sometimes I see that in former kid actors.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, where there's sort of of like bad habits you can sort of pick up along the way that you just have to be mindful to.

Speaker 2 Right, you mentioned in Igby,

Speaker 2 the director was like, I'm seeing the kid tricks. Just fucking knock it off and be better, basically.

Speaker 3 Yeah, stop showing me what you're doing. You know, stop, you know.

Speaker 3 Yeah, stop trying to show me what the character is doing or stop showing me what's happening in the scene.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, that's my job.

Speaker 2 Yeah, force us to lean in and read your mind, right? So you kind of, you shifted what you did. Like, Jason, I'm sure a lot of stuff that you used to do, like on growing pains, is now different.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, that's Kurt Cameron. Will.

Speaker 2 I'm so sorry. Can I talk to you for a second? Yes.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cameron.

Speaker 2 This whole time? The whole time. I've never been.
Yeah. But now, Karen, did you have the same level of

Speaker 2 panic and horror

Speaker 2 when you were start thinking about, my God, am I going to be able to

Speaker 2 transition

Speaker 2 my ability to make a dollar into adulthood?

Speaker 2 like or should I go to college should I get something where I have a diploma and I have a reasonable expectation of sort of a base salary and some consistency and predictability in my life god I don't really think all that often so um all I know is

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 3 I suddenly found myself at like 20 and I remember my manager uh who I'm still with I've been with her for 30 years she like used the word career and I kind of panicked because I've been doing it since six but it's like a six-year-old shouldn't really pick their occupation for the rest of their life that's not not really, they're not really qualified to do that, you know?

Speaker 3 Um, so I think I kind of panicked and was like, okay, well, I don't know if this is what I want to do.

Speaker 3 Um, so I think I spent many years trying to figure out what I want to do, and but at that point, you're 20

Speaker 2 time, yeah, at that point, you're 20, so you could still kind of start college, you'd be a 20-year-old freshman, which is not cute, but you're still

Speaker 3 a little bit more of a high school dropout as well.

Speaker 2 I don't really, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, but but but like Chason, you asked, remember we asked this recently to Carrie Russell, and she was like, no, I had no thought about making the leap from being a

Speaker 2 child actor to a, like, she didn't worry about it at all. You did.
You were cognizant of it. I did, but I still didn't do anything to mitigate the risk.

Speaker 2 In other words, I wasn't taking like night classes in real estate, you know, like it was just, I mean, it's really fucking stupid what I did and what you did, Karen, what Carrie did.

Speaker 2 Like, we're still at this. I'm 55.
I'm still running sort of wild. Great show, by the way.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know,

Speaker 2 that was

Speaker 2 what, like, if this doesn't work out in the next, what, six months, things could go completely dry at any point in any of our careers, and we don't have a diploma or a degree in something that says, no, no, no, I'm knocking on the door.

Speaker 2 I should give me a job.

Speaker 4 But isn't that the thing that drives you?

Speaker 1 Is that fear? I got it.

Speaker 2 You know, this anxiety that's behind all the time.

Speaker 2 I think a really good antidote to that also for me has been rich parents.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you fucker. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. They're not.
You want to be really nice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm being flippant. It's true.
It's not true. It's not true.

Speaker 3 I remember my grandma, like about 20 years ago, she was in North Dakota. She asked me, she goes, you still acting? I said, yeah.
And she goes, when was your last job?

Speaker 3 And I said, oh, God, like a little over a year ago. And she goes, you should get into meat.
People always need meat.

Speaker 2 Really? Really? Your grandma's not terrible. Not terrible.

Speaker 2 Terrible advice. People will always eat it.

Speaker 2 We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 And now back to the show.

Speaker 1 Forgive me, is it just you and Macaulay that were actors, or were there other people in your family?

Speaker 3 My brother, Rory, actually, at some point, we were all sort of like given the opportunity to act and some of them just didn't take to it. Some did.

Speaker 1 And then of all seven of us.

Speaker 2 And then parents and seven kids. Seven kids.
Seven kids, yeah.

Speaker 2 Sorry, where do you fall in that?

Speaker 3 Right in the middle. Yeah.
Okay. But I don't really have that middle child thing.
Uh-huh. Because I was like the favorite.

Speaker 2 Yep. There you go.
I don't. I don't really believe in birth order as much as other people do.
Yeah. You had, you're one of four, right, Willie? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was the baby, like my whole thing, I was the baby for almost 10 years than my brother was born. So, you know, I have two older sisters.
And I don't know. I just don't buy into it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Yeah, you make of it.

Speaker 1 You make of it what you will, like anybody. Anyway, exactly.

Speaker 2 Whatever the

Speaker 2 whole of them. Will, real, real quick, their names?

Speaker 2 Calam,

Speaker 2 Jack, what? And

Speaker 2 we'll let you come back on that.

Speaker 2 I do love them, I think. Look at it.

Speaker 2 You have a question for our guest.

Speaker 1 No, I was just saying, so, but then

Speaker 1 as far as the lineage of

Speaker 2 the lineage of the cult lover, Sean just threw up right now.

Speaker 1 And the kidney stone comes out my throat instead of my pen.

Speaker 1 No, but parents and grandparents and like, or did it, or did this acting bug start with you, the kids of the culture?

Speaker 3 It's like my, I think my father and his siblings did it as kids. That's okay.
That's sort of my understanding.

Speaker 3 Because actually, I only know that because a few years ago, we went through an old storage unit and I found this like pamphlet of, I guess, what his parents were trying to, like,

Speaker 3 I don't know what exactly what it was, but it was like, hey, we have a son that's an actor, and we have this other son that's a magician.

Speaker 3 And it was like, sort of like, we have these performing arts kids.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 Isn't it amazing? This, the stuff you find out about your parents way later.

Speaker 1 Like, I grew up, I grew up without knowing anything about my mom or obviously my dad, but my mom did your dad was such a great driver.

Speaker 2 I know. Do you know the make of the car?

Speaker 2 At least

Speaker 2 you didn't know that your dad didn't own a map, I guess.

Speaker 2 He had a bad memory, or he had a bad memory.

Speaker 1 Wait, do you guys remember that car, the MG? The MG.

Speaker 1 My dad owned that.

Speaker 2 No kidding. He built a car built for one.

Speaker 2 Built for barely two people. And he had five kids.

Speaker 2 That's the first sign, man.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 You should have punctured the tires. I know.

Speaker 2 Isn't that the truth?

Speaker 2 Isn't that the truth? Like, that's such a red flag. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 You know what the other red flag was? When he said, I'm fucking out of here.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 Fucking funny.

Speaker 3 It's so weird for me because it feels like

Speaker 3 you're just meeting me, but I feel like I'm hanging out with my old friends that are just fucking with each other.

Speaker 3 My wife used to tell me for months, she was listening to the show before I listened to it. She would, this happened on more than one occasion.

Speaker 3 She'd be like, oh, my friend said blah, blah, blah the other day. We were having this chat.
And I said, which friend was it? And she'd think, go, oh, fuck.

Speaker 2 That was smartless.

Speaker 2 It happens all the time.

Speaker 2 Who is that?

Speaker 3 Was that Shams that will?

Speaker 2 No, I know.

Speaker 3 She actually, like a couple months ago, we were at this, because her favorite episode is the one you guys did with Matthew Reese.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 she loved it.

Speaker 3 She listened to it more than once. And she, so we're at this party, and she goes, oh, Matthew's here.
Let's go say hi. And And she started dragging me over.

Speaker 2 And I was like, Matthew, who?

Speaker 3 And then she, right before we got to him, she stopped me and started pushing me away. She goes, never mind.
We haven't met him. We're not friends.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 That's hysterical. I love her already.
What is her name? Sweet.

Speaker 3 Jazz.

Speaker 2 Jazz.

Speaker 2 Jazz.

Speaker 2 J-A-Z-Z.

Speaker 3 And it's not short for anything. Actually, right when I met her, that was one of the first things I said.
It's not. It's dumb.

Speaker 3 When I first met her, I shook her hand and I said, I said, what's your name? She went, Jazz. I said, J-A-Z-Z, like the music.
She went, yeah. I said, well, that's fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 It just came out of me. And right away, I was like, I blew it.
But instead, she laughed. So it worked out all right.

Speaker 2 Where were you when you guys met?

Speaker 2 Tell us the story. Is it a meeting? At a bar.

Speaker 3 But that was it. I mean, what I love about the story is it's fast.
That was pretty much it. The only other thing was when I walked into a bar, I was with a friend.
Is that your.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's

Speaker 2 this is New York City.

Speaker 1 You're like, I don't know where the car is taking me, but it's my dealer.

Speaker 2 That's my dealer.

Speaker 3 I walked in a bar, I saw her, and I yelled, holy shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I, what city? What city were you? New York.
New York.

Speaker 3 New York. And I was with this dude.
And I said, like, hey, we need to go stand near this girl, which I'm realizing now sounds kind of creepy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And so we stood near her.

Speaker 2 That's what we had to do before these dating apps. You just had to like kind of circle.
You show up. It's fucking easy now, right?

Speaker 3 This was 13 years ago. She was sitting at a table with some dude.
And the moment he got up to leave to go to the bathroom, I just jumped in there and stole his seat.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 3 And I literally, like, all I did is I sat down and said, sorry, I just stole your friend's seat. And she went, that's okay.
I said, was that your boyfriend? She said, no.

Speaker 3 I said, do you have a boyfriend? She went, no. I said, then I'm Kieran.

Speaker 2 Wow. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 I've never been to that forward in my life.

Speaker 2 And then she said, I'm jazz. And you said, that's fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 And I said, that's fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 And then what are you drinking?

Speaker 1 You guys have been making music ever since.

Speaker 2 What part of town were you? Do you remember?

Speaker 3 It was,

Speaker 3 what the hell was the name of the place? It was on

Speaker 3 7th and A. It was called

Speaker 3 Cabin Down Below.

Speaker 2 Oh, nice. Do you know that one? I don't know if I know Cabin Down Blow.
7th Seventh and A. So that is Lower East Side.
I want to say that. Lower East Side.

Speaker 3 It was one of those places where I kept getting like turned away because they kept every time I tried to go there, they were like, it's a private party because I wasn't dressed cool or I wasn't famous.

Speaker 3 But they knew my wife. Like there was one time I went there and I was with a couple of like, I'm not meaning to name drop, I was there with a couple like famousy people.

Speaker 3 And I walked up first and they were like, sorry, private party. And I looked back at one of my friends.
It was, I'll just tell you who it was. It was Scarlett Johansson.
She's like, I got this.

Speaker 3 And she walked up. She goes, hi, they're with me.
And he looked at her and said, it's a private party.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 3 he looked up and went, jazz? And she was like, yeah. I was like, oh, are they with you?

Speaker 2 And she would, yeah, come on. Ah, jazz for the win.

Speaker 3 That's one of those fucking people.

Speaker 2 She's like, that's one of those New York fucking jazzy jazz.

Speaker 2 She's just one of those people, man.

Speaker 3 She makes friends everywhere.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 since you guys are, since acting is generational,

Speaker 2 what about the three-year-old and the five-year-old? What are you thinking?

Speaker 3 I'm not against that.

Speaker 2 Are you going to support it?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, I had a really nice experience with it growing up.

Speaker 3 You did, yeah.

Speaker 2 It was nice.

Speaker 2 However, it is that thing, getting back to that other point, it's like, are you going to, at some point, you, I would imagine you would say, now, would, do you want to kind of, uh, kind of help your odds a little bit by going to college at the same time, maybe?

Speaker 3 I would probably encourage an education. I never got one, but

Speaker 3 I don't know. Yeah, I would probably encourage that.

Speaker 2 But I don't really know.

Speaker 3 And I've also heard of people, this is something I kind of wish I

Speaker 3 it hasn't come to bite me in the ass really, but I remember doing like a lot of press as a kid, and I feel like I would maybe try to protect them from doing that a bit because sometimes I'll get quoted on something stupid.

Speaker 3 I said, I'm like, I was 13, that's not what I actually think.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't, you know, what about remember that Sean, remember that time you paid that guy to bite you in the ass?

Speaker 2 Sorry, it just reminded me of that story.

Speaker 2 Surprisingly cheap, too, wasn't it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 he lowered his rates for me.

Speaker 2 That's really funny.

Speaker 2 There's also the part about training yourself to

Speaker 2 believably be someone else at a time when you're trying to figure out who you are. Like starting to act when you're a little kid.
Did that ever screw you up at all?

Speaker 3 No, I think other things probably screw me up. I don't know if that was it.

Speaker 3 What fucked you guys up?

Speaker 2 Are you feeling pretty balanced now?

Speaker 2 Self-analysis or professional analysis from a big fan?

Speaker 3 No therapy. I prefer to go undiagnosed.

Speaker 1 I love therapy.

Speaker 3 I should. I know if you guys

Speaker 2 long walks work too.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Sean, you go to the grow work in progress.

Speaker 4 I go to therapy every week.

Speaker 2 Oh, you love it. I do.

Speaker 1 Instead of dumping it all on Scotty, I just pay somebody to listen again.

Speaker 2 Again,

Speaker 2 fuse the TV to it.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. All right, Karen, what about are we a

Speaker 2 sports fan, television show fan? You've said no,

Speaker 2 no, no hobbies. I don't do anything.
Zero. It's so like it's so, yeah, I don't understand it.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I just don't have time.
I don't even get to the channel. So do you go?

Speaker 2 Do you meet people for coffee? Do you like?

Speaker 3 No, I don't really even have friends anymore.

Speaker 2 What will you have?

Speaker 1 Click and you just hang up? Kind of. What will you do after this, Karen, after you're done with this little...

Speaker 2 He's got to Zoom and then he's got to go do more press.

Speaker 3 Not like a press thing and I got the thing.

Speaker 3 I like doing this. Hey, this is kind of a new one.
I think I need therapy because I like flower arrangements now. Do you really?

Speaker 2 Okay, there you go. I do.
I like doing it.

Speaker 3 That gives me some calm.

Speaker 2 What about a garden on the roof of your apartment?

Speaker 3 That's such a nightmare. It's New York.
That's not going to be nice. No matter what.

Speaker 2 But there's public gardens. You can rent a public square, a garden in a public square.
A bit of a bummer, too.

Speaker 3 I find.

Speaker 1 I'll do crafts with you till we fucking

Speaker 2 all the time.

Speaker 2 Until what? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. But Les, we could get macaroni and glue and make stuff on a paper plate.

Speaker 3 I could do that with my children, but yeah, please come on over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 2 You can join us. We got all that stuff.
He's turning into a morphing addict. He's going to steal your silverware.

Speaker 2 It's not.

Speaker 3 I'll never leave him alone with the kids.

Speaker 2 But yeah, he can come over. He's supervised.
Now, when do you start rehearsals on the play? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, gosh, February or something like that. That's terrible.

Speaker 2 Can we get a commitment?

Speaker 2 Can the three of us come to the opening night of your play? Yeah, you're invited. Of course you're not going to be able to do it.
The public is invited, stupid ass.

Speaker 2 No, I'm going to ask you to publicize this. You need me to give up one of my five tickets to you three? Yes.

Speaker 3 I mean, I could. Yeah, fine.

Speaker 2 Fuck it. Yeah.
No, leave them alone.

Speaker 3 I'm sure you have connections yourself, but fine. You three are my guests.

Speaker 2 We want to come.

Speaker 3 No plus ones, though.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Now, is jazz in the business as well?

Speaker 3 No, not at all.

Speaker 2 But she understands enough about what you do to...

Speaker 2 It's taken a while.

Speaker 3 She used to think that like, she goes, I don't understand why actors get awards and things.

Speaker 3 She literally thought that directors puppeteered the actor, told him where to sit and the cadence on how to speak. That's literally what her point of view was on it.

Speaker 3 She had never been on a set or anything around it, but she's she's come to understand. Where'd she grow up, Chet?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like what's going on.

Speaker 2 London, but yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 Closer than you do like. You guys spend a lot of time over there as a result? We do.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I love it out there. We always

Speaker 2 don't know what that is. And yeah,

Speaker 3 that's what we do here.

Speaker 2 Look at Sean. Look at Sean's right eye.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. is it open no no the whole show it's just been half open the left one's fully open it the right one is really tired

Speaker 2 this morning sean spent 45 he spent 45 minutes bent at the waist outside the front door this morning

Speaker 2 and that it's so true it's so true i was at the er at cedars and there's like it was a seven hour wait what what is wrong with you why aren't why didn't you cancel uh because i had there's no other option was scotty with you yeah so you didn't you didn't take the uh the driverless cab this time i told him i'm like fuck off i'll just take the thing that's what's it called again that's sweet waymo waymo waymo and you did have a good experience right yeah i love the waymo yeah do they have that yet in new york

Speaker 2 i would i've never seen the driverless it's the it's the driverless oh that scares the shit out of me no i haven't seen any here no how do you get around new york are you a bike rider oh god no i don't do that either see that would fall under hobby probably or at least exercise and i don't do that yeah no are you a subway guy guy?

Speaker 3 Subway, yeah, yeah. That's the best way to get my kids to school.

Speaker 2 And if it's raining, you'd take a cab. Yeah,

Speaker 3 no, it's not today. It's rainy today.

Speaker 2 How do you, what do I, you know what I've never figured out about the subways? Once you come up out of the stairs after you've reached your destination,

Speaker 2 I can't figure out whether I'm looking north, south, east, or west because I can't find the sun.

Speaker 3 Because you're used to getting in the back seat and your driver just taking you places?

Speaker 2 Sir, can you change your radio station?

Speaker 2 A whole host. I actually requested nobody talk to me on this ride.

Speaker 2 You know how you know a lot of the times, JB is because on the avenues, certainly on the avenues, you know which direction they go, whether they go uptown or downtown, so you can get

Speaker 3 you can look at the numbers. I think if you can count, you can sort of figure out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that necessitates walking a block to see if the numbers are going up or down. That's that's a gasp.
Yes.

Speaker 3 You might walk one block out of the way.

Speaker 2 But like, I shouldn't have to walk a block to figure out which way I'm going.

Speaker 3 Well, you also have like smarty phones.

Speaker 2 Do you want to go to a council meeting in New York? Maybe you can be heard. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 What would you suggest? There's somebody at the exit of every station telling you where to go?

Speaker 2 In England, they take the time to paint on the road there, look left.

Speaker 2 Maybe

Speaker 2 New York can say, you are facing north.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it doesn't say which direction you're facing. No, but I'm saying.
It's north or south. It's not dismissed.

Speaker 3 That's so you don't get hit by a car.

Speaker 2 No, I understand, but I'm saying there are efforts that the infrastructure folks can go to, you know, to help out the people on the road. This is real stuff.

Speaker 2 Sean, Sean, remember last week we have dinner at Richard and Jenny's and you came outside and I was bent over at the waist. This is true.
And I said, and I looked at him and I go, yeah, Aaron.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 That was, I was one of the hardest

Speaker 2 being hunched over at the waist.

Speaker 1 You know, Richard, Richard Ehrlich?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The world's best realtor. If you're looking for a house in Los Angeles area, contact Richard Ehrlich.
That's a true story.

Speaker 1 That is a true story. And Will, and we walk out to our car as the night's over and we're walking out

Speaker 1 to his driveway. And Will goes acting like he's completely bombed out of his mind.
He goes, Hey, hey, man, can I ask you something? I go, Yeah.

Speaker 2 He goes, Do you know where I can? Do you know where I can get some heroin?

Speaker 1 I'm just asking for a friend.

Speaker 2 I'm asking for heroin. I'm asking for a friend.
I don't want it. I don't want anything to do with it.
By the way, let's not make light of people who are struggling with it. No, of course.

Speaker 2 We're not.

Speaker 2 We're just having fun because Sean happens to be hooked on morphine.

Speaker 2 Hook on. I don't even think he's addicted to.

Speaker 2 Kieran.

Speaker 2 Karen, this is it. We could just talk to you all day knowing that you have nothing else to do.

Speaker 2 He's got to do it all over again. Right.
Is there anything you want to ask Sean? Is there anything, because you've listened to a few episodes, is there anything you need to know from Sean? Go ahead.

Speaker 2 Ask him why he hates his colon so much.

Speaker 3 Yeah, why he's always in the hospital.

Speaker 2 What is wrong with you? No, because, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm not, just my heart thing was the big thing but it's all being taken care of well you know why kieran if you went if you went to shauna scotty's house every day every meal it's like a 12-year-old's birthday party this is true okay

Speaker 3 it's true it's true napkins on lambda kind of eat the same i i'm i'm i'm i'm kind of the same when it comes to the food thing yeah

Speaker 3 you like the food i do and i was and it's the shitty stuff like my wife the other day reached in and

Speaker 3 grabbed some Cheetos that I was eating, was about to, and then she let go and said, what am I doing? Wait, what are you doing? Where did these come from? And I said, They were in the house.

Speaker 3 She goes, How? Stop putting this in our house.

Speaker 2 Right. How old? How old a man are you?

Speaker 3 42. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I can't be eating like that. So do you go to the, do you go to the, do you guys take turns going to the market and doing the shopping?

Speaker 3 Yeah. And then, you know, I do that thing where I shop hungry and then I'm buying the book.
I find that they have like that chicken and a biscuit. Do you know those like box crackers?

Speaker 2 Chicken and a biscuit. I love those.

Speaker 3 I'll buy like, I buy them by the case.

Speaker 2 I love just pushing the cart row by row by row. No list at all.
I'm just going to go down each row, however long it takes, and look at everything and see what what I want.

Speaker 3 But you don't put anything in the cart, right?

Speaker 2 Because you know,

Speaker 2 I feel it. JB, I love hearing you describe sort of normal, you know, everyday necessities for people as a novel idea.
You know what I mean? It's like a fun tag relatable. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 I just want to walk into an office and

Speaker 2 get into all the places.

Speaker 3 I like to pretend I have a job.

Speaker 2 Work, work, work.

Speaker 2 Amazing. Amazing.
Kieran College, what a delight you are. You are.
I have to see you.

Speaker 3 You're fun.

Speaker 2 You're a good man. You'd be a good dinner hanger.
Maybe we'll hit you up for dinner in New York.

Speaker 2 Come see the show.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want to see the show.

Speaker 1 I really want to see the show.

Speaker 3 Hang out and do the thing.

Speaker 3 You guys never do repeat guests on your show either, right?

Speaker 2 We have done it on live when we did the tour. We did some repeats and had some friends.
I remember that.

Speaker 3 I watched that doc. It was great.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 That's when I learned from you, Jason. And I think about it every time I'm about to shake a salad.
You said, don't shake it.

Speaker 3 You remember that? You put like whenever you put the dressing in a salad, you went, don't shake it. Don't shake it.

Speaker 3 I think of it every time now, and I go, oh, wait, I'm not not supposed to shake it and i go wait why what's wrong with you cascade why

Speaker 2 no you gotta you gotta you gotta shake it to get it even

Speaker 2 i'm a pretty vigorous shaker now i've

Speaker 2 a shaker

Speaker 2 cascade you want to

Speaker 3 let that dressing let it see merch this is what you guys need more clothes like that let it cascade that's a sweater right there and the tracy one That's right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and the Tracy one, which she wears.

Speaker 2 You are a guy who you deserve all the success that you're having now, especially considering how hard you worked and how talented you are. Such a massive fan.

Speaker 2 Dude, honestly, what a thrill to have you. Yeah, keep it.
This is a dream come true.

Speaker 3 I mean it. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 2 Big, big fan. See you in a few months.
Go get it. Bye, guys.
Bye, Caroline.

Speaker 2 Thanks, pal. And he's slamming it.

Speaker 3 They told me to not slam it, but I'm slamming it.

Speaker 2 Who says not? No, no, no, don't slam it.

Speaker 3 They said don't slam it.

Speaker 2 Because you've got a redundant record. Redunding a record at home redundant record.

Speaker 3 I am. That's why I got to do a thing.
Wait, do I do a thing now?

Speaker 2 And then I do your thing and then you can.

Speaker 3 This is a great goodbye.

Speaker 2 I don't know how to do it.

Speaker 2 What do I do? What do I do with the thing? I don't know what to do. So if you bring your mouse to the bottom, do you see that little sound icon? No.

Speaker 3 Yes. No.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 Click on that. Yes, and then I hit stop.
Stop and then hit save. You guys got to use this as part of the goodbye.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I press stop and then no. I just press stop.
I don't see anything that says save. We're fucked.
At the top left, file and save.

Speaker 2 Share, save. So embarrassing.

Speaker 3 Saves these. So embarrassing.
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 This is such a great goodbye.

Speaker 3 Yeah, use it. I'm done.

Speaker 2 Do I can slam it now? Yeah, slam it. Slam it.
Love you bye. Love you bye.

Speaker 2 Now, there's a nice young fellow, Will. There is a nice young fellow.
You're right. What a great guest.

Speaker 2 I've been excited. It's a good guest.
Good guest. I've been excited to have him.
And like I said, we had a sort of, we had to reschedule, and that was, you know, a whole thing.

Speaker 2 But I was like, oh, God, we were so close to getting him. I'm so glad we had him on.
He's so good. I've always wanted to be a good person.
He's worth

Speaker 2 it. The interviews I've seen him do, I used to be like, God, that's a great guy.
I wonder if they just got him on a good day. Right.
You know, I hope he's really like that. And he really is.

Speaker 2 What a guy. He really is like that.
I want to work with him. I want to hang with them.
Hey, Sean, no, as you scan the bi,

Speaker 1 I wanted to talk to him about

Speaker 1 to watch Home Alone again because we watch it every year, and he's kind of loving it. He's in it, Home Alone.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
I love it. He's in it.
Yeah. I bet you're still getting residuals on that.

Speaker 2 They're not thick ones anymore, but

Speaker 2 fun to see. Actually, you know what film he was in? He was in the first one.

Speaker 2 And also the second one?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Which was what?

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