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Coming right at you. Oh, that's genius.
Yes, wonderful. And cue the music.
Smart list. Smart list.
Smart list. Jason, hi.
Sorry. So stressful stressful that is so stressful we have sometimes every once in a while we'll have tech difficulties yeah listener we apologize if we were late today well would we have been late with the listener how does it work not like that but it's a good i get where you going with it.
And yeah, more an apology to our special guest. Yeah, I'm so sorry, special guest.
Sean and I don't know who it is yet. Yeah, so sorry.
Well, let me tell you something, Will. You're going to be mortified when you realize that you've embarrassed yourself.
You and your silly podcast operation have embarrassed yourself in front of this guest.

How did I do it?

I'm not in charge of Sean.

Yeah, but you're going to feel the most embarrassment.

No, no, no.

It should be.

It's not even Sean.

I mentioned Scotty.

This one's firmly on Scotty.

And I feel like this is his department.

He's in the tech department over at their house.

And he's head of IT and he fucked up.

I know nothing. I know nothing.

I know nothing.

I hand him my iPhone.

Where is Scotty today?

What's his excuse?

He's working in the back in his little studio.

So he's doing his things instead of doing your things.

That's right.

There's the problem.

Priorities have shifted.

Yeah, they have shifted.

We should bring him in front of the council.

And he probably can't step away from those duties for 10 minutes, can he? No, no, he have shifted. We should bring him in front of the council.
And he probably can't step away from those duties

for 10 minutes, can he?

No, no, he can't.

Maybe the 12 steps that it takes him

to walk from the back to the front.

By the way, Jay,

I didn't know that Franny was in 9 to 5.

Yes, yes.

I would have completely seen that.

Oh my God, you would have loved it.

Yes, so Franny Tracy, my 17-year-old,

she was in a musical last week at her school.

She was incredible, I can say.

I heard she was great, yeah.

Yeah, and I just, I'm so, so proud.

And she seems to, unfortunately,

have been bitten by the actor bug,

the performance bug, the audience bug, the whole thing.

I bet.

And so, you know, we're going to have to manage that.

I'm obviously going to support her.

No, I mean, I've tried.

Yeah.

Did she sing?

I heard she played Roz, right? Did she sing the theme song? Like the title song? As part of the ensemble, yes Now, 9 to 5 was on Broadway at one point, was it not? Correct, yes It seemed like it's a great show Yeah, I heard it's really good like, tumble out of bed, stumble to the kitchen,

pour myself a cup of ambition,

yawning, stretching, trying to come alive.

Oh, you know the song. I've never seen Jason.

I've never seen him sing.

Three times last week.

And Maple, our 12-year-old,

she was maybe even more obsessed by the whole experience.

Yes, she told me.

There are two on the loading dock. Here comes Hollywood better get maple liked it a lot too huh yeah she loved it she's going to get into theater when she gets to the upper school really she says she's not interested in the tech part at all yeah she doesn't want to get her hands dirty building sets and light cues and stuff like that she just wants a spotlight yeah yeah um but it was it was it was very very cool i loved it now watch that right now jade it's fun to watch that the painting behind you you'd painted that or you bought that or it seems like it's like why are we like that i would i would i know it's a little frame heavy left let me adjust oh nice position there let's that.
There we go. Let's go, man.

Oh, look at that nice

kitchenette. It looks like flowers, but

it's actually a broom. All right.

Sorry, listener. You know what?

It's been too long now.

We've kept our guest waiting.

Yeah, we really have. Scotty, ignoring

you, Sean. I know.

So, let me do my

best. Sean, just have a deep, deep pool of milk, though, before we get the guest out here.
Have a good one. He truly did, listener.
Just a big, hard shot of milk. So this is a fella that...
Will would probably do a better job introducing this guy.

And he probably will be driving this interview much more than me,

although I am a huge fan of his as well.

But I can't really elaborate with one of my incredible introductions

like I usually do.

When do you do those?

But I will... Sean, what did he say? So I will say that...
Well, let me... I'm going to say some things here.
And Willie, as soon as you guess it, you can go ahead and introduce them. All right? All right.
This guy, this stud, this world famous athlete. In the room.
Played for

Manchester United, Real Madrid, AC Milan, LA Galaxy, Paris Saint-Germain, and the England

national team. It's David Beckham.
Are you kidding me? David Beckham, get out here. What? What? No way.

Okay. Oh my God.
No, I'm not joking. You're welcome, Will.
Joking. It's not even your birthday.
Wait, I'm so sorry for keeping you waiting. Don't worry.
Shut up, Sean. You've done enough damage already.
Shut your mouth. David, thank you for joining us.
It's a pleasure. Thank you for having me on.
This is so exciting to me because I knew nothing about football, soccer. Watched the documentary.
It's all I can stop talking about. It was incredible.
I can't stop talking about it. It was incredible.
We're going to get to that. And the fact that you had to spend so much time with Fisher Stevens shows what great resolve you have as a human being.
Fisher's our friend. He's amazing.
He's amazing. It took us a while to find him as a director.
You know, I looked for a long time for the right person to help me tell the story. And the moment I met him, I knew he was firstly, unfortunately, he was a Liverpool fan, like you will.
But other than that, he's a great guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
David, what an absolute thrill to meet you, my friend. This is so cool.
I'm such a massive fan. First of all, where are we finding you right now? I'm actually in London.
Okay. I've been in the office all day, and then I have a premiere of a friend's series on Netflix tonight, so I'm heading there after here.
But that's why I've got a shirt and tie on. Yeah, I was going to say.
Now, let me guess. Is this for Ripley? This is Guy Ritchie's series tonight.
Yeah. So he's doing the Gentleman series.
I've seen the movie, but the series he's been working on for a while, so I'm heading there tonight. I think he's a great director.
Well, you know, it's no surprise, and you made an excuse for wearing a shirt and tie, but you always look really, really well turned out. Yeah.
Sorry you're not good looking. Yeah, he's working on it.
He's trying to distract from his ugly looks by dressing up a bit, you know? No, gonna say you know we can you do you follow that is something that has been a trademark of yours you've always been kind of into style and into fashion and that comes through in the in the docu series about your life um do you feel pressure in that i always want to know do you feel pressure in that way because you've set this standard like you're like oh oh shit, I better look good when I go to the store. Yes, to be honest, not at all.
I never feel pressure on that side. I think my wife added to the fashion side of my life when we met 27 years ago.
But even before then, I was always into fashion even at 8 years old when I tell the story about when I was page boy at one of our friends weddings my mum's friends wedding and she asked me if I wanted to wear a suit or I wanted to wear tights and a pair of ballet shoes and I chose the tights and ballet shoes. In all honesty, I never feel pressure.
I enjoy wearing suits, I enjoy wearing casual clothes, but I never feel the pressure to look in any certain way. So, you have a position somewhere in the English government or somehow with the fashion industry.
I should have this and I'm looking for it. I don't have it here.
Great research. Yeah, it's not great over here.
Sorry, David. But can you fill in where my dumbness is taking over? Yeah, I do a lot for the Fashion Council, which they made me...
Sounds like the Ministry of Magic. They kind of made me an ambassador of the Fashion Council.
And it was something that I was quite surprised about. But in all honesty, it's something that I've loved to be part of because it's about the new generation and the next generation of, you know, talented young designers.
And that's what I love doing. You know, the work that I do on the charity side, the work that I've done on the soccer side over the years, it's all about the young talent and bringing them through.
It's one of the reasons why I started the team in Miami, because I was excited about the talented players that we have in Florida, in South Florida, and obviously in Miami. And that excited me more than anything.
So, you know, stepping into the fashion world in that way was exciting for me. But here's the thing about fashion, because to me...
Oh, go ahead. Yeah, let's hear it from the expert.
Everyone's been dying to hear. So when you tie the baseball cap into the T-shirt what tell us what tell what the process is definitely interrupt david beckham to get your opinion on fashion go ahead no but my thing is like i scotty always with my husband scotty always another fashion firestorm always wishes i would dress better, right?

Like,

always like,

he's like,

are you really going to walk out of the house like looking like that?

Can't you just put like some nice pants

and a nice shirt?

And I was like,

you know,

like the looseness of a t-shirt

and the looseness of,

like,

it's more comfortable to me.

Comfort, yeah.

Like,

yeah,

that's what it is.

And to me,

comfort is like,

I don't like dressing in a shirt and a tie

because it's so restricting

and the pants are tight

and the tuxedo.

Like,

and you enjoy that? Well, if it fits right, if it fits right, then it's comfortable. So most of the time it does.
So I feel okay doing that. But most of the day you'd like to be in sweats and a T-shirt.
Absolutely. Or jeans and a T-shirt.
Yeah, of course. Now, can I ask you, David, do you like a little bit of stretch in your jeans? I do.
I do. It's nice to have a little bit of stretch in the jeans.
I get a lot of heat for the stretch I prefer in my jeans. But, you know, us athletes, David, we've got nice-sized legs and a real motor behind us.
And so we need some room when we sit down. We need room in our jeans.
I agree. Yes, we do.
Jason's a little different from you, David, in that he's got the kind of thighs that are made for playing video games. You know what I mean? He looks like he's been sitting in his, he's got atrophied limbs.
Well, I was, to be honest, I was a fan of Ozark, so I saw those thighs quite a lot of times. Oh, God.
Just take your time through good they look good thank you he's a very handsome boy i'm shy um tell we do well but to wrap up the fashion side of it i'm i'm i'm curious will i'm curious if you like going to these fashion shows do you like sitting front row and seeing all the fashion forward stuff to be honest i very rarely go to the shows other than my wife's show. You know, I've gone to a couple of shows over the years, but I don't go to as many as people think I do.
But the ones that I have to go to now and I want to go to, obviously, are my wife's ones. So I enjoy that.
Does she make men's clothing? She doesn't yet. She made me a pair of jeans, actually.
She should send you a pair, and they fit well. She made me a pair of jeans the other day.
So we'll see. I don't know what she's going to go into next, but she's doing very well.
She's a very hardworking woman. So, yeah, we'll see.
She's always looking for new projects. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think I saw a video of you at the show the other day and she came over

and gave you a big kiss.

Well, she gave me a big kiss

because obviously

it was quite an emotional one for her.

These shows are always emotional

for obviously the work

that she puts in

and then it's over

in like eight minutes.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

So I got invited to

an Armani one in Milan.

Yeah.

So I flew halfway across the world

because I didn't,

never been to a fashion show.

Who's mail were you accidentally

getting that week?

Fuck.

So we fly around,

halfway around the world.

I go sit in the front row

of this Armani fashion show.

It's two minutes long.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

I'm like, what?

It is amazing.

But she was emotional

because she's also got

a broken foot at the moment.

Oh.

Yes.

So she broke her foot.

Funny story. We went skiing uh she came for two days she kept on saying i'm not gonna ski i'm not gonna ski because i've got too much going on so she then went home after two days left me with all the kids she was stretching in the gym and by the way victoria's the biggest fan of the of the podcast by the way is she oh no she's this morning I don't think

I don't think

I've actually never had so many texts from her during the day on the lead up to this. She literally texted me at three o'clock.
She was like, have you done the podcast yet? And I was like, no. And then this morning at breakfast, she was like, okay, I'm going to give you some pointers.
Don't try and be funny. She said, you guys usually focus on actors and, you know, not so much athletes.
Obviously, I've listened to a few of the athletes you've had on. But she was like, don't talk too much about soccer because these guys are intelligent.
And all the people that are listening to these podcasts are people like me, she said. So she said, I don't want to listen to soccer the whole way through this.
So you're right. We're going to cover a little bit of it and Tracy's just going to have to deal with it.
Believe me. First of all, let's say that we're fans of Victoria's.

Yeah, huge, huge.

First and foremost.

So hello, Victoria.

I'm a huge fan, yeah.

Secondly, I'm sorry to say that when she says we're intelligent,

she must be talking about a different podcast.

And thirdly, we're going to talk about football, a.k.a. soccer,

which, by the way, we covered this.

Soccer is actually an English term.

Everybody thinks it's an American term, but you, David, probably know.

Soccer is an abbreviation of association football,

and they called it soccer.

Yes.

Right, David?

Yeah, that's true.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, it's not American.

So, David, so let's get into it.

Where did the ER come from?

Soccer.

Like the way they do rugby and they call it rugger?

It was the same idea.

It was kind of, right, David?

By the way, this is the first time I'm hearing this, so I'm just agreeing with you, Will. It's just, you know, I'm agreeing.
It's true. So the way that they took rugby and they called it rugger is like a sort of a slangy version.
And soccer, football, is called association football. To distinguish it from rugby, it's called association football.
And then they just took the sock from Association and called it soccer. Anyway.
I think we just ran out of time. Yeah, thanks for joining us, David.
David, so listen, so you started playing football when you were a kid, and your dad, and I love that they cover this in the documentary, your dad was a huge Man U fan. Yeah.
Growing up. And then you go and become one of the great Man U players.
When you say Manchester United, you think David Beckham. But you started the Man U Academy as a little kid, right? Well, I'm an East End boy.
So I'm from the East End of London. And obviously I started actually at Tottenham's Academy and Arsenal's Academy as a young kid.
Oh. So...
What about West Ham? Were you... I was...
Yeah. West Ham wanted me to go down and train with them, but I was obviously at that point, I was having to decide between Arsenal and Tottenham.
My grandfather was a season ticket holder for 50 years at Spurs at Tottenham. So I decided to go with Tottenham.
So I spent a couple of years training at Tottenham till I was 12 years old. And then Manchester United noticed me down in London.
They invited me up to Manchester and that's when it all started. And I moved up to Manchester when I was 15.
Wow. And let me bring Sean into the conversation.
Sean, when David said that he's an East End boy, did you start humming Pet Shop Boys to yourself? Absolutely. I love that song.
Wait, but I have a question about the doc, because now I know everything about you. And I'm obsessed with you like the rest of the world.
And so... Like the rest of the world? By the way, are you just going to go off topic because we're just getting on...
No, no. It about soccer it's about football so because in the documentary the thing that blew my mind was when the whole country turned on you in that moment that right in the moment of the documentary and the moment in your career and i was at home not knowing anything not involved with like the in and ins and outs of like the crowd and the game and everything like that i'm going why are they booing the greatest player? Like, they should be supporting you.

So what is the mob mentality of turning on the best player in England? Well, I think. In the world.
I think the English have always had that mentality of build someone up, knock them down, and then watch them get out of that again. And once they get out of that, there's a lot more respect there.
But I think, you know, I made a mistake in 1998 with the red card, and I owned up to that mistake. And then I had to spend the next three or four years trying to get through these games and the seasons and the abuse that I was getting.
But I think, you know, to your point, Sean, that I think one of the things that came out of the documentary is the fact that you know everyone in America remembers me playing for the Galaxy they remember me playing for my country and also other teams that I played for but they didn't know the story and what I'd gone through and all so every time that I'm in Miami or LA or New York or somewhere in the., people come up to me and were like, we didn't know that story. Just like you've said.
I suppose for a lot of people the documentary was a reminder of, firstly, how bad it was and also for people to actually know the story. So it was quite hard talking for it, actually.
It human it humanizes. And, you know, look, at a certain point, and you know this, David, and certainly you guys know this to a different degree, not the same way that David does, but you become, you are your own person, but then the public owns you in a way.
They own this idea of you and you play for England, you captain England.

They kind of, in

their mind, they kind of own you. So if

you fuck up in whatever way that they

perceive, they're like, hey man,

you don't get to

make mistakes. You don't get

to be human. And

oh boohoo David,

oh you're rich, famous

and it's like, well I'm still a

person who wakes up in the morning and makes

mistakes. Yeah, and you can't hide

I don't know. Oh, boo-hoo, David.
Oh, you're rich, famous. And it's like, well, I'm still a person who wakes up in the morning and makes mistakes.

Yeah, and you can't hide, I'll bet, right?

I mean, England is such a small place in comparison to America.

There's not a corner you can go without having to be ready

for either confrontation or adulation.

I know a couple corners in London I can show you.

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Visit ParamountPlus.com slash LiveSports to get started. Is there a place on the planet that you found that you can go and you can have relative anonymity and just bop around? Well, one of my, you know, and I talk about it in a documentary, after the World Cup, the place where I went was New York because Victoria was there with the Spice Girls and she was on tour and my escape was New York.
So I thought, you know, no one really kind of knew me in the US at that point. They kind of knew who I, some soccer fans knew who I was, but actually me.
Because of MLS, right? Yeah, but me actually going there was an escape for me. But then the media was so intense at that point, you know, I kind of disappeared for a few weeks.
and then by the time I came back, I thought, and I talk about it in a documentary, I thought, oh, they'd have forgot everything and they didn't. So it was kind of difficult at the time.
But obviously being with a Spice Girl at that time, they were at the height of their fame. So, you know, it was kind of both worlds colliding.
And then, you know, and I think that's why probably I got, you know, some of the abuse that I got. And in all honesty, I accepted it.
I got on with it. And I knew the only way of me getting over it was working harder and being protected by Sir Alex Ferguson.
I know, but you were so young to go through that process and to learn that that's how you get out of it. Like, how do you, you're so young.
Was it comforting at all to know that in England that is kind of what white hot fame looks like? That's the kind of treatment that you get. So therefore, need not take it too personally.
It's just that's the way they kind of do media there. Well, I suppose you do think like that to a certain point, but you do take a lot of the stuff that is going on personally.
You know, a lot of the things that are being said. But I kind of knew deep down, even though I'd not been through anything like that throughout my career up until that point, I knew deep down that I would be okay.
I don't know how. I just knew that I was protected at Manchester United.
I was protected by Sir Alex Ferguson. But the thing that I got upset mostly about was, you know, my grandparents got affected by it, my sisters, my parents.
And that was what upset me more than anything. Yeah, yeah.
Well, let me ask you this, David. And it it comes out it's it's something i've always sort of suspected but it comes out glaringly in the docuseries and is that how much is that support of you like you you mentioned your family sir alex ferguson how much was having that core group of people supporting you did was that the thing that got you through yeah that was exactly what got me through you know obviously my friends and my family you know I've always had good close friends and my family are an incredible support for me they always have been um and I've been lucky with that throughout my whole career even at you know a very young age my parents supported me with whatever I did but the one thing that got me through on the football side was the support of Sir Alex Ferguson, was the support of Manchester United, and probably the biggest was my teammates and the fans because every other stadium that I went to around the world, I got abused.
But at Old Trafford, whenever I went over and took a corner or a free kick,

you know, the whole stand, like, jumped up.

And that was, like, it was like a big family.

So, you know, that's what got me.

Yeah, you and your player,

you and your teammates were like brothers.

I've seen a few different things.

I saw that one.

I forget what it was.

It was the five of you kind of reminiscing and going. Do you remember we came out a couple years ago class of 92 class of 92 it's so good i watched that in when i was in the uk a couple years ago i just loved it and you know obviously known as the potentially the greatest dead ball kicker of all time i mean you had a movie named after you've been like that yeah that's so Yeah, that's so cool.
That's insane. It was kind of amazing, actually.
Sean, if they did it for you, they'd do eat sloppy Joes like Sean or something. You know what I mean? Wipe your mouth like Sean Hayes.
Hang on, hang on, hang on. But what I want to get into is you and your teammates, you guys had that class of 92, one of the great all-time classes.
I remember watching you guys. What was it, 99 when you guys were down? Was it Champions League and you won it? You got the two extra goals.
Two goals in three minutes. Yeah, wow.
It was un-fucking-believable. And so who were the tight guys in that group? Name them.
Well, we were all tight in all honesty. Yeah.
But obviously the lads that grew up together was me, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs. So we all grew up.
That was the class of 92 because obviously we all came through in 1992. The Neville brothers.
Those are the Neville brothers. Gary Neville, who's very outspoken and he's constantly sparring with my guy, Jamie Carragher, who's a Liverpool player.
Gary is always on Sky Sports saying something controversial. He can't help himself.
Is that right? I love that. That is exactly right.
And he's always been the same. He he's always been controversial he's always been able to talk a lot and and the funny thing the the the relationship between him and jamie carrigan they used to hate each other as players we all they did you know that that rivalry was so intense but they're best of friends now which is which is amazing to see i have a feeling victoria have a feeling Victoria is about to come in and stab David with her headphones.
I feel like this is the weed she's talking about. I wish I was at home and I'd bring her in.
Trust me, she actually said to me at breakfast, she was like, we should have done it. Why am I not doing it? Yeah, it's true.
We're going to give her her own hour. I will just say this and then we'll leave it.
I feel like I'm the David Beckham of my crew, of this marvelous crew. These guys are my supporting.
We're the ball. And I would...
Except for the looks, the fashion, and the athletic ability. Barely.
Barely. Now, David, what part of the documentary were you most excited for the public to learn about you that perhaps they didn't know before? To be honest, I was nervous about the whole thing.
You know, when I retired eight years before or 10 years before, it was actually 10 years, people wanted someone, they wanted me to do it then and there, there and then. And I wasn't actually ready to kind of look back.
I was ready to kind of just jump into something else, which was the club in Miami. But then about two years out from my 10-year retirement kind of anniversary, we started to discuss it and talk about it and think, okay, maybe this is the right I don't know I in all honesty one of the reasons why I wanted to do the documentary was for my family I wanted them to have something all in one place for them to watch and for them to look back and reminisce and that's what really we we created you know there know, there was a hell of a story there from, you know, the upbringing to the different clubs that I played for to the ups and the downs.
And my career was always kind of a roller coaster. But obviously, I was very lucky to be as successful as I was because of the teams that I played for and the teammates that I had.
Right. And now, did you have like, was there a moment where you thought, how am I going to chase this high of all of the success that I had? And if not, what made you get out of that feeling of like, God, I can't chase this high forever.
Like, what am I going to do? Well, in all honesty, I'm shocked with the reaction to the documentary. I can't believe the reaction that we've had to the documentary.
You should be surprised that even I watched it. In my wildest dreams, I couldn't have.
I wasn't expecting all of what has happened since we bought it out. But the hire, you know, I knew that once I finished my career, I kind of planned it 10 years out, you know, before I retired, I didn't know when I was going to retire.
But I always knew that I needed to step into something new. On the day that I retired the day after I knew that I'd have to go again, because that's just how I was brought up.
My parents worked really hard and they luckily, you know, built that into me. So I was ready to go straight after that.
And nothing was going to replace, you know, the feeling of playing soccer. But I knew I needed to be busy.
How long after you retired was it that you purchased Inter-Miami? Well, I announced I had to actually be finished playing soccer. So when I signed for LA, I put that in my contract so I could buy a franchise at the end of my time of playing in LA.
And luckily, they gave it to me. And it was for half the price of what they were worth at the time.
And then obviously six years later, I was able to announce it. And then I was playing in Paris.
My last game was in Paris. And the day after, I flew to Miami and I announced the team in Miami.
The day after. Wow, that's really cool.
How are you liking that new role in the process, the role of ownership? You know what? It's been one of the most challenging things that I've ever done. I bet.
Whether in my career or outside of my career in the business side. Because we had to jump over a lot of hurdles along the way.
There was so many difficult moments, you know, people turning around and saying Miami is a really difficult sporting city. Don't go there.
Don't take the team there. But I had a feeling that that was where I wanted to take the team.
And it took a long time to get it up and running. And we're still jumping through different challenges challenges but in all honesty my vision from day one when I presented the team uh and you know tried to put the logo together and the colors and all of that the the last slide of the presentation that I presented to the creative guys was a picture of Messi in the Miami jersey so So my dream was always to bring someone and him to our team.
Unbelievable. I mean, how crazy that you've ended up, you're Messi's boss.
I mean, let's just, you know, let's not dress up. I can't look at it like that.
I can't. I just can't.
But it's pretty wild. And you, not only have you been successful with this team in Miami, but you brought over Leo Messi.
In a time when, and as you are well aware, a lot of players are going east to get those big, you know, in search of riches in the Middle East. Yeah.
A lot of players from Europe, a lot of players from the UK, they're all going there and getting these huge paydays, famously Ronaldo and everybody else. And Messi comes to Miami.
And that must have felt like a real vindication for you, like a real sort of vote of confidence that he said, you know what? I'm going to go to Miami and I'm going to partner with David Beckham. I'm going to play for Miami.
I mean, that must have felt good. It felt unbelievable.
And I still can't believe it. Every time someone turns around to me and says, you have Messi in your team, you realize that, don't you? And it really is surreal, you know, to say that we have probably the greatest player to have ever played the game, the most successful player to ever play the game.

And he's playing in Miami in the MLS. But Leo, his vision was always, you know, he turned around to me many years ago.
He said, I love Miami. One day I want to live in Miami.
And it stuck in my head. And I thought I'm going to make that happen one day.
If ever we ever get a chance to bring a player like him and his caliber to Miami, then that's what I want to do. So it took a lot of time.
We started the process four or five years before he came. Wow.
I sneaked into his dad's hotel. You know, I said, I want to sign your son.
I know he won't come now, but at some point we want to bring him to Miami. So we started the process five years out, and then all of a sudden he decides to come.

And yeah, I actually cannot believe.

But you're right. A lot of players were wanting to go and going to Saudi at the time,

and he had a lot of offers, obviously, on the table.

But he's very clever.

He's very clever.

He knows what a massive market the US market is, the opportunities that you can have.

I don, yeah. It's quite a lineup.
I know. I do get a little bit of stick from my Madrid mates because we're building a Barcelona team at the moment.
So at some point, we might have to bring some Madrid players in. But yeah, it's very exciting.
Well, obviously bringing these global superstars into American soccer is hugely important. It's something that you basically started, if I'm correct.
And the sport has consequently been growing in the United States quite a lot since then. Since you started playing for the Galaxy, basically.
Yeah, yeah. And so you kind of started a thing going there and it's reached its zenith, current zenith with Messi.
Are you bullish? Are you confident that American soccer will continue to grow and someday be on par with our American football

and baseball and basketball as far as notoriety and attendance and licensing and TV rights,

all that stuff? At the end of the day, it's hard to be as big as baseball, American football, basketball, because it's just what it is. But I think we have a real opportunity with soccer in the MLS and in the US.
And I was bullish back in 2007. I knew that firstly, moving from Real Madrid to the LA Galaxy,

when at that time, I think there was 13 or 14 teams in the league,

the league wasn't as established as it was.

There wasn't a big TV deal there.

There wasn't a big Apple deal.

You know, all of these things weren't in place.

So I arrived and it wasn't as professional as I'm used to.

But I knew that I wanted that challenge. I knew that I wanted, I always loved the US.
I always wanted to live in US. And my decision at that time was criticized like quite heavily.
And I was criticized as an athlete at that time. But I wanted that, you know, I wanted that challenge.
And I could see, you know, what the future looked like in the MLS. And luckily there's been a lot of people that have really put a lot behind, you know, this league and now it's gone from one extreme to the other and now, you know, we need to continue to grow it.
What can we do to sort of grow the sport? I really, you know, as you pointed out, I'm a massive Liverpool fan. By the way, my only piece of advice I'll ever give you, David,

when it comes to football, because you

you're one of the all-time greats,

I will say this, is

and you've got a good

coach, manager over at

Intramiami, but you know what I'm going to say, who

needs to come in, because he's about to be available.

I know. He's my guy.

I know. And you know what? If you can bring

Jurgen over, and let me be the three of us will go for dinner. Don't you start crying again.
I love Jurgen Klopp so much. I must admit, even as a Manchester United fan, I love Jurgen.
I love his character. I love his personality.
You know, I love what he brings to the sport. And, you know, to hear him say that he leaving Liverpool, and obviously being a Manchester United fan, I'm going to get killed by some of my Manchester United friends.
Say it. Say it.
No one's listening. I'm sad to see him leave.
What he's done for the club and what he's done for the sport has been incredible. Pull him close to your breast in Miami.
David, you should know this. We've not got much money left, though.
Listen, we're going to put it together. We're going to put it together.
I want to help make this happen. You should know, a couple of weeks ago, I was in Canada for the hockey all-star game and they had me be like a...
Is that right, eh? They had me be sort of like a celebrity captain, whatever. Yeah.
And so I was with Connor McDavid, who's one of the greats of all time. And I gave a speech.
He said, do you have a speech for the boys in the locker room? I said, I sure do. And what I had done was I pulled together a bunch of Jurgen Klopp quotes and I made it into a speech.
And I started, because all his speeches are so inspiring, right? And it kind of goes beyond sport, the way he talks to people. And then I ended it by saying, when I first came to Dortmund, and then all the players looked at me like, Dortmund? What is he talking? Anyway, we're going to get you in a club.
But my question was, what can we do to make football sort of, how can we improve it in this country, you know, whether it's youth academies or just grow the sport? Because I really want young people to work. In all honesty, when I came in 2007, I sat with the commissioner.
I said, okay, talk to me about the academies that run through the MLS. He said, we don't have any.
I said, okay, well, then every team has to have an academy. And I'm proud to say that every team now has, you know, academy systems that run from 12 years old up until 23.
And, you know, we in Miami, that's one of the most exciting things for me. You know, the academy, because we had six young kids in our first team last last year.
And those are the things that you need to do. And also, you need to do that, but you also need to bring stars.
Bringing Leo to the league wasn't just about giving a gift to the U.S. and the MLS and obviously to the Miami fans.
It was more about what you know, what he can do for our academy players. And it's continuing what you started.
Yeah. Gareth Bale did it too.
The great Gareth Bale. Yeah.
We love Gareth. Exactly.
We love. He's a great golfer, by the way.
He's a great golfer. He's a great golfer.
Good Lord. How's your golf game, David? It's okay.
It's okay. I'll bet it's pretty damn good.
It's okay. Come play with us.
Come play with us next time you're in LA.

Okay.

I'm not that good.

Gareth embarrassed us.

Gareth, he literally embarrassed us.

Didn't he, JB?

And it wasn't just the hair.

No.

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What is your favorite sport aside from soccer that you enjoy playing and or watching? I love basketball. Do you? Basketball.
You know, I've always... Are you a Miami Heat fan? No, I'm a Lakers fan.
Are you? I've always been a Lakers fan. Yes.
All right. And then obviously when I moved to LA, you know, I was able to go to the games every week and I made sure that I go to the game every week.
And what I found a little bit strange, and I always say it, that, you know, even through the early games and the middle of the season games, you know, two minutes to go, people are leaving the seats and going home. No one wants to get caught in traffic in LA.
Well, Jason needs to get home. Yeah, I got on the slippies.
I always stayed right to the end. Firstly, because I'm a loyal fan.
David, you're also leaving in the SUV from the tunnel under the Staples Center, what was then called the Staples Center. You don't have to deal with the nonsense of traffic getting out of the big lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is true.
Don't embarrass him. And you've deserved that.
You've earned that. But Kobe was on the court.
So there was no way I was not going to watch every second of Kobe being on the court. Yeah, I get it.
So it was more about that than anything else. I'm a Lakers fan.
Yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
I'm a Lakers fan too. David, we have every once in a while we get a lucky caller will break through with a question.
Oh, no. I don't know if you're seeing it there on your board.
Oh, this is for Will. This caller is from New York City, named Justin T.
Fucking Thoreau. He is so good looking.
He says here. Don't say that.
Don't say that. His arms are cold, though.
So, Will, he says, I love the show, Will. You've always been a huge Liverpool supporter.
As you know, your guest, Mr. Beckham, has at times not had the warmest of receptions by Liverpool fans.
But because he is a wonderful man and a top bloke, he has generously forgiven them. My question is, as a Liverpool fan, would you like to use this moment on the record and on behalf of all Liverpoolians to apologize to Mr.
Beckham's beautiful face and admit that you were wrong and you should shut your big fat mouth? That's a question. First of all, less of a question and more of an opinion when he says There's a lot mouth.
There's a lot of opinion there. There's a lot of...
Any apologize? I will apologize for all the Reds fans out there because... Wow, you're not going to be able to go back to Anfield.
I know, it's true. I'm going back to Anfield in May because I want to see Juergen before he wraps it up.

But no, I will apologize for rude behavior.

For sure I will.

Looks like he's got a follow-up question here.

He's got a follow-up question also for Will.

Jesus.

At night, do you use moisturizer on your chest

or just regular prescription burn cream?

And he says he can just take the answer off air.

He's hanging up now.

He's unbelievable.

Yeah.

David,

I have a question.

I know.

We all do.

We all do.

He's got great arms.

What is the arms?

Why has he always

got his arms up?

Well,

why would you hide them?

I mean,

if you've got those arms.

I've never seen somebody

in such good shape for somebody who's so unathletic it's great you throw a ball at him he runs the other direction oh my god now david you you mentioned like uh you know my question about the documentary about all that drama that you encountered just sitting here talking to you never having met you before you seem like the guy, and I'm guessing you strike me as someone who, that recognizes people or situations that could potentially be drama or controversy, like you mentioned your mate that always gets himself into trouble because of all the controversy. Do you run from that now, having been through so much drama your whole life with reporters, journalism, the field that you were in or continue to be in.
Journalisms. I'm not going to learn that slide.
Journalism. Fuck.
Do you know what I mean? I'm going back for that. Like, do you recognize it now that you're older? I think he's got it.
Thank you, Sean. No.
No, I don't run for it. I don't run for me.
You really? No. Really? No.
God, I do. I really don't.
It's just, you know, it's been part of my life for a long time. And, you know, everything happens for a reason.
I had to go through that difficult time, you know, to maybe have the career that I had, you know. I'm just saying because you're so, like, you're so mellow and, like, cool and, like, easy.
Please tell my wife that. Please tell my wife that.
It's also conditioned you well to be a great husband, although she doesn't need any help navigating media, but a good father to help explain what some challenging stuff can be. Also a great owner for the team when some of these players start going through some of the same media scrutiny and stuff.
So you're in a, it's so great that you have a position that you've earned that is going to demand all of the things you've had to create, manage, you know. Well, let me say this, David.
Let me ask you this because this might help inform that if we can sort of backtrack. Are you, obviously you've done a lot, we've talked about a lot of these things.
Are you happy right now with where you are in life? I'm so happy. Without crying, answer that question.
Hang on. I am very happy.
I'm very happy because, you know, I feel very blessed to have had the career that I've had and played for the teams that I have and experienced that.

And the one thing that I always wanted for me,

you know, I was lucky I met Victoria when I met her

because I always wanted to have kids young.

I always wanted to have kids that lived through my career with me.

And I was lucky the three boys all lived through most of the teams

that I played for.

Yeah, that's great. That's really cool.
And that, for me, was a really important part of my life. Yes, and that was one of the coolest parts of the documentary when you were like, you looked at her on screen, and you're like, I'm going to marry that girl.
I mean, that's crazy. It is.
And then you met her, and then you married her. I mean, that's just nuts.
And you're still married. And you're still married, yeah.
25 years in July. That's awesome.
That is awesome. And I guess the reason I ask that is because if you're happy and you seem like you are and you've got great kids and you're really close to them, that's evident.
That really comes through. And you and your wife are really close.
But everybody goes through stuff in life, right? It's like you're always going to go through shit I actually you know what I quote all the time is I don't know if you watch that all or nothing the Tottenham season and Mourinho was on there for part of that right yeah it was great I advise people to watch it's really good but I love one of the things that he said and is is that he I remember at halftime he's talking to the players and he said, look, the other team is going to score.

They're going to have possession.

The question is, how do you cope?

And if you can cope with that, you know,

and it's true with life.

I think about it all the time.

There are going to be times

where you're not going to have your best day,

where somebody else is going to get the thing you want,

blah, blah, blah, blah.

But how do you cope with it?

And if at the end you end up being happy, then that was your journey, Yeah. And that's one of the things I think we both, me and Victoria probably both get emotional about.
And after watching the documentary, after everything was over and we watched it finally, that's the one thing that we looked at each other and was like, I don't know how we got through, you know, the last 27 years, but we did. And we have an amazing family.
We have amazing businesses and we're happy. And yeah, of course, when you're with someone for that amount of time, of course, you have your ups and downs.
Everybody knows that. And at the end of the day, we were lucky because we had each other at those moments.
You know, she was a Spice Girl girl i was playing for manchester united and even when we were going through the difficult times we actually we actually had each other to feed off and and and that was that was the that was the that was the best part you know we obviously we were 21 and 22 when we met we got married when he was 23 and 24 and we had our first son when he was 23 so 24, and we had our first son when he was 23. So as soon as we had our first son, Brooklyn, that really also added another layer to obviously the family, and our responsibilities then were to our son.
And that's, you know. Now, let me ask you this.
You said businesses as well as family, which is really cool. How did you, how did you craft a business mind? Because, you know, a lot of sports figures don't have that side of their brain that gets exercised like that.
Or do they want to exercise that part of the brain? But you seem to gravitate towards it. What was, how did you do that? I think throughout my career, I was lucky to go into different things, whether it was being the face of, you know, certain, you know, brands and things like that.
And I was able to work with great people over the years. You know, I've been with Adidas for almost 30 years now.
So a lot of the people that, and brands that I have and partners that I have are long-term partners. So the business was something I was always interested in.
You know, even from a young age, I knew that the moment I stopped playing, I wanted to have another life after that in the business world. And in all honesty, you know, putting the Miami part was in, was a big part of the legacy that I wanted to leave, you know, in the game.
You know, I wanted to be an owner of a team. I wanted to be in the U.S.

So if I got the opportunity to do that,

that was what I wanted.

But on the business side, you know,

there's a lot of things that have continued

throughout my business.

And I'm lucky to have, you know, the business that I have.

But it's something that I always wanted to do.

It's really impressive.

Sean, you were saying that a lot of your partners

were Adidas. It was hard to see because it was dark, but you would have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. David, are you traveling more now? Are you busier now than you ever were as a player? I'm so much more busy busier than I was when I was a player because in all honesty...
You're supposed to take it easy now. I know.
You're like every everything i see you're like in a different city like i know opening a thing i know but i enjoy that part of it i enjoy to travel i enjoy to work and in all honesty that's a big part of my business so that part of my life i enjoy it yeah david um i i i my my mother's british so i love people who are british and i would i'd love to know what is the most quintessentially British thing about you? I love a roast. I love a roast dinner.
Oh. That is probably the most quintessential part about me.
Now, that is a beef roast we're talking about, yes? Chicken roast? Chicken roast. I go it i got it jason that when you came over for dinner we had chicken roast yeah we did is that yes is that what you asked her to cook us you like being in the you like being in in england like on a sunday and having a proper thing to do it's my favorite thing to do do you like going for a pub lunch do you like on a sunday i do like a pub lunch i like a pub lunch and my kids love it so yeah what bands because i love british band i grew up on it's at will did too like i'm british pop and stuff like that who do you listen to um stone roses so i love the stone roses love the stone roses fan because obviously growing up in manchester you know in the 90s it was all was all about Stone Roses, Oasis.
Well, Oasis is Man City though, sadly. What is the best British slang word or phrase? And can you give us an example of how you'd use it? I was actually, my daughter started trying to ask me some slang the other day.
She was like, Dad, you always talk about these like slang words as a cockney. And I was like, okay, I'm trying to, because I don't really want her to start talking slang, in all honesty.
So I was like, okay, so Harper, you've just run up the apple and pears. And she was like, what do you mean? She was like, well, that's what it is.
It's stairs. You know, you've just run up the apple and pears.
So I've been trying.

Apple and pears.

Yeah.

Apple and pears.

Yeah.

Those kind of cockney, you know, slang she started to ask about.

But, you know, Victoria would kill me.

She would kill me.

But if I was trying to teach her those kind of words and things,

yeah, she would be happy.

You know, you're obviously still staying in incredible shape.

What about some of that British food there?

What's your favorite piece of crap over there in England?

Well, you know, I'm from the east end of London,

so I grew up on, it's pie and mash.

So it's simple.

It's a mince pie.

It's your most simple mash.

No butter, just salt. And then it's like a mince pie.
It's your most simple mash. No butter, just salt.

And then it's like a gravy called liquor.

And it's stew deals and parsley.

I'll do that.

I'll do that.

And then jelly deals.

So jelly deals.

What's that?

Jelly deals is eels.

Eels?

So you cut up eels.

Eel like the fish, the snake fish? The sea snake? Yeah, in gelatin. Jelly eels.
In gelatin. Oh, good Lord.
It's not for everyone. It's not for everyone.
No, not for anyone. Yeah.
David, you've been a very, very nice man to join us and a great man during this interview. I love you.
What a thrill. What an absolute thrill, man.
It's a thrill for me to be on here. You know, I'm a big fan of all you guys and obviously what you do.
And to be on here is a huge privilege. So thank you.
You set the bar very high for Victoria to try to jump over. Don't worry.
She'll kill it in a second. Don't worry.
We can't wait to have Victoria. She actually said to me, you can bring the looks and I'll bring the humor.
That's what she said this morning. Her words, not mine.
Let's all have bangers and all that stuff without the eel when you're here. Well, you're invited to come to Miami or when you come to London and we'll go to have pie mash.
I would love that. I would love that.
Fantastic. Thanks, pal.
You're welcome. Thank you very much.
David, thank you so, so much. Have a great rest of your night.
Thank you very much. Have fun, David.
Love to the families. Oh, cheers.
Yeah, yeah. And have fun at the premiere.
Thank you. Yes, sir.
Thank you, I will. Take care.
Bye. Bye-bye.
Bye, buddy. That was incredible.
Also, I'm good for your birthday, Christmas. That was incredible.
Yeah, wow. I did not see that coming.
Me neither. I was like, oh, I'm not going to know who the soccer player, I'm not going to know who the soccer player.
When you kept saying, like, Will, you're going to know, I'm like, what is he talking about? Yeah. But, you know, to our listeners out there.
Did we get Shani back on? Like, we got Shani again? No. But, like, so to our listeners, like me and Sean, we're not big soccer fans, but we make a commitment to you in the audience that if we're going to bring somebody on that does something you have no idea about, they're going to be charming.
They're going to be uber famous. Okay.
And they're going to walk you through it. And by the way, sometimes they're not going to be any of those things.
Yeah. And then we just won't air those episodes.
What are you, a lawyer? We've got a can full of them. But JB, you know what was great about him, and you kind of hit it on the head, which is he was able to articulate exactly what we want to know about him, right? Yes.
So you ask him, and he's so open and real. And I love that, and it's evident that he's, I think it's part of being English, so that he's very down to earth.

And he's so charming.

He's not over his skis.

He's very in tune with his family.

And he's just down to earth.

So he can talk in a way that's very accessible.

Yeah, that's why I'm like, well, how are you so mellow?

Yeah.

It's not, Sean, it's not hard.

If you just smile a little bit, Sean.

I know, I'm just like, oh, go, go.

And just get out into the world, too.

You know what I mean?

He's a guy that's out doing shit. You're exhausted if you go to Larchmont.
Like, what are you? You know what's so sad? That is true. It's fucking true.
This guy's going all over the world. You know what? He's getting into the world.
He's out there, man. I know.
No, here's the other thing. Every time you guys said MLS, I was like, ooh, real estate.
I thought you were talking about real estate. Exactly.
I got so excited about like. Was he sending a listing? By the way, maybe we can.
Can I see photos? I'm so giddy at the thought of, I mean, I don't, I guess I'm now a Miami fan because I really love Beckham. I think I'm on my, even though Will's going to, Farrell's going to be mad because he's a LAFC guy and we love Will a lot.
We like the battle. And we like the battle.
So we don't want to get in trouble with that but we, right now, we want to help David, help, Jurgen Klopp to enter Miami, to Miami, I will fucking. Don't you hear come the tears again.
Yeah. Well, if that happens though, Willie, then you'll have, well, but you'll have, you'll be, you'll be an LA FC fan and then, and then you'll be a Miami fan.
Yes. Yeah.
So you basically, your fandom will be literally by Crosso. I was going to say, I was going to say you're going to be so excited.
Thank God we cut before that.

That was fucking rad.

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We updated the Furon V8 for even faster performance on the pitch. Same ultra-lightweight, precision strike-focused design, now with even greater sense of speed.
A new speed control stud supports control during sudden stops, sharp pivots, and moves used by the fastest players, like Sock himself.

Step up your game in the new Furan V8.

Learn more and get yours at newbalance.com slash soccer.