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Smart. Hey, yes, so Will is joining us from over the pond there in London.
It looks like you went ahead and treated yourself to a nice, at least a one-bed a two-bedroom suite dude look who's counting other than you i mean yeah it looks uh looks like you're doing pretty well yeah sitting in a wingback sitting in a wingback you know i felt like this is the chair that i've always deserved yeah you know and you're also taught you kind of you sound like you're keeping it down because somebody's sleeping or something. Yeah, you're trying to stay quiet

because the kids are asleep?

No, you know why?

It's kind of echoey in here.

Yeah.

So I'm just trying to be like not as echoey.

Oh, because you probably have hardwood floors

in that nice hotel.

Sure do.

And high ceilings, right?

Sure do, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I'm over here visiting some friends

and then of course I'm going to the football on Sunday, which I'm really excited about the nfl is having a game on this this weekend over there's trying to expand the league you are something you are something else i um i'm going to see liverpool um play west ham up at anfield their their home ground in liverpool on sunday chappy and i are going. And I'm very, very excited.
I can't. Would you ever consider getting each other rings, you and Chappie? Maybe just tattoo it around your ring finger.
You know who we went and saw yesterday? We went last night and saw Johnny Vaughn, my buddy who I've mentioned, who's on the radio over here, and he's a great's a great oh yeah and uh so i went and joined the 407 thing with his crew everybody from gab the woodman woods to uh dr santa templeton to big si and little si it was just uh and then we went out for um nice chinese food uh dinner at a casino oh so yeah how, yeah. How about that?

Like a betting casino?

It was, yeah, it was very, it was different.

But it was great.

This guy hosted us.

It was amazing.

The incredible Chinese food restaurant in the basement of this casino.

Yeah.

Good times, man.

I can't picture, look at Jason's face.

I know.

I can't picture anybody.

He doesn't know.

I can't picture gambling anywhere other than Vegas.

So they have casinos there. Does it feel like Vegas? They got casinos everywhere, Sean.
Really? Yeah. You ever heard of Macau? I'm going to be going to Vegas in a few weeks here, and I'm anticipating not going to the tables at all um because i don't drink anymore and i feel like i need to be um inebriated to enjoy the mindlessness of gambling and the the fear of gambling not sean sean sean can do it at breakfast yeah i could do it oh my I love it.
Wait, Sean, are you one of those at like a buffet? Do you sit at the table, fill out the bingo cart and everything? Yeah, and then I go to Vegas. I went with Sean once.
You remember that? Years ago, we went to Vegas. Oh, my God.
That was a long time ago. Do you remember that? That was like 2002.
Was this after Istanbul, you guys? It was before Istanbul. Well before.
I went to Vegas one day. But maybe after Venice.
Oh, boy. Because we did Venice, Italy too.
Does Chaffee know about Sean? Is he okay with him? I'm trying to keep him on my laps right now. Will and I have tattooed rings.
Toe rings. I saw Sean one time at the blackjack table just go nuts, and he was splitting and doubling down.
And at one point, he was playing like an eight-hand thing. It was so many splits and double things.
But it was $2 units, right? It was just a $2 table. No, it was great.
And that one time, I think it was that time or another time. You won? Yeah, I kept winning.
I was really drunk, and I was really young. See, that's what I mean.
I don't think you can win when you're sober. No, and yeah, because you make horrible choices.
Well, you make pragmatic decisions and that's sort of at odds with successful gambling, I think. Yeah, and anyway, I had like 300 bucks or 200 bucks left or something like that.
And I turned it into like 10,000 bucks and I gave it all the way to the people at the table. The people.
robin like the like just like a second if you work for the irs if you work for the irs just it was 9999 right yeah how are you with the how are you with the jet lag can you i'm okay really fast it kind of hit me i actually left in a little bit early because the jet lag kind of hit me between the eyes, and I was like, guys, I've got to go to sleep. But I can tell you this.
I'm really excited to go to my first – as you guys know, I do love Liverpool, and I love what they call football over here. So I'm excited to go.
It's a big thrill. And Jay, as a sports fan, you can appreciate how cool it is to go to a new stadium.
Yeah, they make sports fans look bad here in the states because you guys got the or they guys you're you're you're one of them they they all the songs that you sang incredible it's real good fan stuff i'd be into that it's super super fun and it's a great environment i've only been to one match over in europe and that was in spain a few years ago but i haven't been here and i'm so excited and i love the football and i'm'm glad I'm saying football because it's reminding me. Uh-oh, here we go.
It's reminding me. Nice going with the guest.
Watch this. You know, our guest today, I'm so excited because I just want to get to him.
This guy will. Our guest today is an incredible entrepreneur.
He's a philanthropist. He's involved in all sorts of businesses from media consulting to management to blenders to sports apparel.
Oh, blenders. To team ownership.
This is a guy who's done so much. And it started, a lot of it started because he had so much success on the football field.
And, you know, you talk about people who do amazing things. And then you talk about guys who went in the first round of the NFL draft, who played three seasons in Buffalo.
This is football. I'm going to get excited.
Twice led the league in touchdowns, voted to four consecutive Pro Bowls. I'm into this.
Won a Super Bowl. And also, I think he got really well-known for his incredible, what they called the Beastquake.
What? Touchdown run. What? During the 2010-2011 nfl playoffs he rushed 67 yards while breaking nine tackles considered one of the greatest nfl runs of all time he's an all-time great he's an all-time great guy and he's also more importantly my friend you guys it's mr marshawn lynch no way marshawn marshawn good morning What's going on? Oh, my God.
Marshawn, can I ask you a question?

Why? No way. Marshawn.
Marshawn, good morning. What's going on? Oh, my God.
Marshawn, can I ask you a question? Why do you spend so much time with this guy, Will Arnett? What happened? Does he have photos on you or something? You guys are so close. It's the weirdest couple in all of Hollywood.
Nah, man. I told him, like, if you ever call my phone or bang my line, I'm going to make it work.
Because he gave me an opportunity to do some shit that I ain't never done before. So anytime he hit my phone, I mean, I'm coming through.
So that's just for forever. In perpetuity, he's got you as a guy throwing favors.
For sure. Can we know what that was or no? No, murder-ville.
Yeah yeah a lot of people don't realize how hilarious marshawn is yeah because they think of him as like a football you know icon and i'm like this is a funny dude um and i'm so lucky you know i'm so happy that you do return my calls and and you know marshawn we've never really talked about football like in a a way, or like how you started. Think about it.
Over the last few years, we've talked about so much other weird stuff. Honeymoon and all that other kind of stuff.
Well, we went, we covered the World Cup last year. We did this thing together.
And we never talked about how you started in pro, well, just in football in general. And I guess that's on me, I should have asked, but I'm asking now, how did you, what was your first, were you in love with football when you first started, when you were a kid? Like, what was the deal? What was your relationship like with football starting out? I mean, the relationship with football was, I was big on playing it, Not too much of a fan sitting down and watching it.
Really? That's interesting. But when it came to it, it was like, yeah, if we had the opportunity, every opportunity I had to play it, I was for sure getting down.
But I really wasn't, like I said, I wasn't big on sitting down and watching a game. It wasn't like no big-ass tradition that we did where everybody come through on Sunday and watch the games.
Or, you know, Monday nights wasn't like, we got to watch this Thursday night. No, I wouldn't, no shit like that.
And then the opportunity to go to college and, you know, play there, I thought it would all end for me after high school. and then, you know, we started sending letters like, oh, yeah, you got opportunity to go to college and shit.
That wasn't something that was, you know, really talked about in my household as well. So really, I mean, it just all seemed, yeah, that shit all seemed like a little fairy tale or whatever.
But which colleges you ended up going to Cal University. Oh, yeah.
California. Berkeley?

Yeah.

So, I mean, the shit worked out for me in the long run.

Yeah, for sure.

When I first found out, I'm like, hell no, you want me to go to more school?

More voluntary school?

Like, nah, hell no, I'm cool off that.

But I ain't gonna lie.

Luckily, I had two cousins who was really into that shit. What's that, schoolwork? Yeah, for sure.
Really into schoolwork? Yeah. Yeah, man.
I'll say they took on the jobs of the teachers by making sure I maintained a reasonable grade point average to even be able to give college an opportunity. That's awesome.
Wow. But then once it was like, once I got there and, you know, seeing what type of time it was on, what I had to do in order to accomplish, you know, going to the next level, then shit just made sense.
And it was like that shit clicked. Because now it was like, oh, I got a goal and I got to do X, Y, and Z to accomplish this.
Then let me just do what I need to do and see how far I can take. Do you remember the process of getting used to getting hit? Like, did you start playing football so young? Oh, sorry for him.
Were you so young when you started that you don't remember it? Or do you remember, like, because, you know, I never was allowed to play football. My mom was British.
She wanted me to play soccer. But I got this one part in a football movie where I actually got to put on pads and a helmet and I played like a defensive back or something.
And this one take, I had to tackle a guy. And I didn't know what to do with my head.
I felt like, well, if my head hits that person's shoulder, it's going to break my neck. So what I thought would be smart to do is just to kind of shrug my shoulders up and trap my helmet in the hole that the shoulder pads create so it's locked in there.
Like a turtle. Yeah, exactly.
I'm not sure when you did this role in that movie, but you sound like you got that move from the Little Giants. Exactly.
I'm just a small, soft actor, and they all laughed at me. The movie was a comedy, thank God.
That's right, though, Jay. I wouldn't think of that.
That is true. Because, Marshawn, I'm the opposite of you.
I'd rather watch it than play it. Because I played it when I was a kid.
I was terrible. But when i watch it then when i see the heads hit the bodies i think the same thing i was like how does their neck yeah so do you remember that process was is there a learning curve that's painful on that or were you too young most definitely uh so i mean i got the i probably got the latest start out of because it was a group group of us.
And, I mean, you know, it was more family, you know, close friends, like, in the neighborhood. And, you know, I think I was probably one of the later ones that started maybe around age 13.
Yeah. So a few of them started maybe age 6.
6, 8 was around the normal time for them to start. So they were called, like, considered the veterans.
Right. And, you know, one of my closest friends, rest in peace, we were doing hitting drills, angling, tackling.
It's the biggest thing in football. Is what? Is angle tackling? Angling, tackling, tackling drill.
What does that mean? It's's line up on opposite sides, put a cone out, and you come to a point where you have to earn your manhood. Uh-huh.
It's not a lot of us. Sure.
A lot of us. We're a lot of us seeing it.
And, you know, he was a veteran. This was my first year.
It was my first year uh uh sports and um somehow he he convinced me to go first which you know i mean was not a good idea but uh so he called go and we ran and we hit like like a couple of rams hitting each other with their horns right yep except for I didn't lower my shoulders or my helmet, and I went in standing straight up like I was trying to give him a bear hug. Like Frankenstein.
And he actually put his stomach, exactly. He actually put his helmet right in my stomach.
Ouch. And I'm talking about all the wind was blowing.
I'm like, ooh, shit, I don't know. And I had to make a decision because as soon as, you know what I mean, as soon as he had hit me, all you can hear is the coach is like, man, what the hell y'all doing? Like, line up.
And I'm like, line up? Like, oh, you want me to do this again? I'm laying down. You want me to do this again right after? I'm like, I don't know what to say.
Because I want to tell him, like, hey, you know I just went. But then, you know, everybody, they, hey, line up, line up.
We got to line it up, Coach. You see him? So I'm like, oh, you want me to do this again? So it was like, oh, hell no.
I seen what you just did to me. And I was like, all right.
Now this time, I'm going to duck my shoulder in my head and run it into you. So the thing was, I was a little faster than him.
So I was able to get to the point quicker than him. So in the midst of him lowering his helmet and his shoulders, I had already been lowered and smashing.
Bam! Coach is like, oh, okay, the little rookie got something to him. Line up again.
And now he's calling all his veterans to the front of the line. And now he want to see the rookie hit with all the veterans.
And so it was a thing of like, oh, this is just what you got to do in order to be, you know, a hitter on the team. Those are the people who get all the praise, all the cheerleaders, make love.
Gold number, you know what I mean? Whoever your number is. And I'm like, oh, shit.
So if I become a hitter, then I could be one of them. And then, I mean, you know, my first position I played, offensive line.
So that's where all my little, I guess my toughness and all that, ain't afraid to hit somebody. And then, you know, as much as, so for y'all who don't know, I'm an offensive player, but my mentality is defense.
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No, man. To be honest with you, I take care of my offensive linemen.
And one of the things that I don't do is I don't run into the back of them. I'd rather, if I see a pileup or something like that, I'd rather bounce outside and run into a defender than hit my offensive linemen in the back.
Is that something that offensive linemen do complain about? Hell yeah. Yeah.
Because it's like, damn, pick your eyes up. Because they feel like, hey, look, I'm doing my job.
I'm running this dude out of there and you running into my back. If you want to hit somebody, hit one of the guys.
The guy with the other color on. Yeah, for real, for real.
Yeah. During the, well, was work harder during football or is work harder now with the acting? You know, because the hours in acting can be, you know, usually 12 hours.
And sometimes that hard work is simply trying to manage boredom because no one, there's no two people that are working at the same time and concentration though when you're caught when it's called right yeah or or was or is the football harder because of you know all the obvious parts of it the traveling and strenuousness and well see the thing was uh you know the traveling meetings uh you know practice games being able to take care of my body, you know, making sure I don't lose my mind. That became like second nature.
That was more so like just my walk in life. And then with this, you know, with, you know, going over into, I guess you would call it entertainment entertainment is more of like a challenge to me.
So I'm not looking at it as, is it hard or is it strenuous? It's more so like, I want to understand it. I want to, I want to get a, I want to get a understanding for this, the way that I did for when I was playing my sport.
But, but ultimately, if I'm just looking at it from a time management point,

when I lock in for football, I had to lock in for eight months out the year.

That was just what it was, regardless.

And why is it important to you, just out of curiosity?

Have you always had this thing in the back of your head that's like,

you know what, I want to stretch this muscle in my head about this acting thing or this artistic kind of side of me?

Nah, it's just that, realistically, I don't want to be bad. Yeah.
Because, I mean, shit. I mean, you know, you hear about it all the time.
Like, for individuals, after their first career, they go and get into something else, and it kind of don't pan out for them. Right.
But in the same breath in which, you know, damn, he was a great football player or he was a good football player. However you view me as a football player, you're not going to say I was bad unless I done something to your team.
Right, right. Then maybe I'm shitty to you, but otherwise, you know what I mean? But otherwise, you're going to say, you know what I mean? He brought something to the game, and then, you know what I mean, going into my second career, when the motherfucker see me on T, like, oh, you know what? He ain't bad.
He did a good job. So it's almost like a challenge.
You enjoy the challenge of it. Yeah, I can say that.
What about the gym? I imagine the gym would have been a big part of every day during your football career. What's the amount of hours you're doing in the gym per week? To be honest with you, that was probably the place where I spent the least work at.
I mean, you got to think about it. My career, I played in the league with 12, 13 years, you gotta think college was another three high school four in the little league i got about three in so you 20 plus years of doing the same shit you gotta think like all right i gotta figure out a way to do some other shit in order to stay in shape or to get my body right.
So then, I mean, you start getting creative.

Yeah.

And, I mean, you know, I would say realistically maybe two,

maybe three times in the gym a week. And it ain't to do like, you know, like you see that you probably be like

pumping all this weights and all that shit.

It might be just to get a stretch.

You know what I mean?

Or to utilize the swimming pool. Or just see who's in the steam.
Yeah, that should work too. Sign a steam room for sure.
But so I have like a, I have a two-parter, Marshawn. Like, so when you were playing football, was there a person or a moment that made you want to, that kind of clicked your brain into, what if I did this, you know, expanded into entrepreneurial stuff? And what if I, was there a person that you're like, gosh, I really admire the way he handled his career after football or during football? Or was there a moment? And the second part is, what is your favorite or most rewarding entrepreneurial effort so far? Well, the first part is before I even knew about money or anything, because it wasn't like that was something I came from, I remember they was having these financial advisors come into the facility and get and you can, you know, choose a financial advisor that way.
That was the way in which we met financial advisors. So the team brings people in to talk to players and sort of help them kind of figure out what they want to do.
That's good, actually. Yeah, the player personnel, like, you know, the guy who looks after the players on a more personal level.
They'll bring in individuals who they know maybe through dealings with or maybe got introduced by another player. But I remember the first time my financial advisor came in and he came in there and he was talking, and shit, I had this thing where I could go to sleep standing straight up.
And so he came in, and he started talking all the time, and I fell asleep straight up. Yeah, I know, because in one ear or the other.
Man, shit, it didn't go in no ear. I'm asleep, dead to the world.
Yeah, yeah. And he make a, he don't say nothing.
So as he finishing up, and he, you know what I mean, kind of come to him up on the board, I see all these names. And these are names of NFL players who, you know, I thought if you play in the NFL, you like the richest person in the world.
I'm looking at, looking at all these names and I'm like, you know, they got a number to the right of their name in another column. And I'm like, damn, like, fuck, they got all this money.
And then at the end of it, you know, he go through, like, three slides, and I'm talking about maybe some of the most notable names in football. And at the end, he say, all bankrupt.
And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, no money. I'm like, nah, hell nah.
Right. Now I'm up.
Yeah. But now it's presentation.
Now I'm awake, yeah. So I'm like, hey, hold on.
What you mean they bankrupt? Like, you know, I seen some of the names of individuals who, you know, I looked up to. Nah, what the fuck? So after he said, man, you slept through my whole meeting.
I said, yeah, I did. You know what? My bad.
But can you start from the beginning again? I said to the part where you said, all of these players up here is broke now. Like, what the fuck is going on? And the number next to them are the millions in debt they are.
Man, and I'm like, how do I not become one of them? Yeah, good for you. Good for you.
Well, you know what, Marshawn? First of all, you can't go to sleep in my meeting how do you look right right quit bringing up oh shit we talking about moving forward was there what what was early on one of the if you if you did make like a just foolish you know uh purchase do you remember like one of the dumbest things you've ever bought you said one of the dumbest things i ever bought like when you first start started out, you're like, oh, I got an extra, you know.

Did you ever buy an animal that should probably be in a zoo?

Yes, I have.

But that didn't come, that wasn't early on.

That was after everything was sitting.

Oh, really?

And what kind of animal was this?

I brought a monkey.

A monkey.

You did really?

I've always wanted a monkey.

What kind of monkey?

A red-hand tamarind.

Is that true?

Did you really buy one?

Yeah, about as big as my hand.

Lil Pimp was his name.

Oh, my God.

Lil Pimp.

That's L-I-L apostrophe?

Man.

Nah, no apostrophes.

Is this the kind that throws stuff at you?

Nah, he don't throw no shit at you.

Nah, he will get to yelling at you, though.

He'll yell.

Really?

He'll yell at you.

Is he still with us?

Hell yeah. No, no, no, no.
See, they got a short lifespan. Yeah.
I was always nervous. I wouldn't want to get, like, a monkey would come and, like, end up, like, ripping my arms and my balls off or something.
Or my face. Like, eat my face.
He was about as big as my hand. About as big as my hand.
Yeah. And, I mean, that little motherfucker was fascinating.
Oh my God. He did some of the most crazy shit I've ever seen before.
Do you have to get a trainer for that? Or do you train him yourself? No, to be honest with you, he really cool though. They come trained.
No, I won't say that. But as far as like, I mean, he's so little.
Like, if he take his shit somewhere, it's like, damn, is that rat shit? Oh, he's so tiny. So it ain't like there's no messy-ass shit like that.
Never a diaper on Lil Pimp? Nah, man. He wasn't confining me, man.
Lil Pimp was, he was, hey, man, he was a real true one. He was a true one.
Lil Pimp, R.I.P. Lil Pimp.
R.I.P. Lil Pimp.
But there was a few, I mean, there was a lot of guys that, you know what I mean, I started to see turn, you know, like used to watch O.J. in movies, Jim Brown in movies.
And, I mean, you know, just to see them being able to do it again, like, oh, it's an opportunity there to do that. And then, I mean, you know, throughout the league, you know, you have players who, you know, get into investments and like, hey, man, you know, I'm working with this company, you know, blah, jay, blah.
Like, you doing what? Like, oh, yeah. You know, I'm an outreach person.
And I'm like, okay, outreach. Like, well, I mean, you you know I don't really like people like that but for the for the simple fact that I'm seeing you being able to be on a level of professionalism even after you're done playing football you know I kind of got inspired by that and I wanted to see what was actually out there and a lot of this of this shit that I did learn or that I did get into,

it basically all started off like a joke, kind of like, you know,

damn, well, see if they'll let me get ownership.

Right.

Okay.

And then it's like, okay, yeah, you put a couple dollars up

and they give you some ownership, like, all right.

Yeah, you did that with the Seattle Kraken. You got ownership you got ownership in that you know sean you might not know this marshall's like part owner of a bunch of sports teams including the nhl seattle kraken marshall and i did this thing with for soccer for the world cup last year and then like like two weeks into it he sends me this sweatshirt from the oakland roots and i go what's what's that? And he goes, yeah, this is this MLS2 team that I co-own.
And I go, we've been talking about soccer every day for two weeks, and you're only telling me now that you're an owner of a team? That's amazing. But he's got all these pieces of these teams, which is so, so cool.
Very cool. Very savvy.
Yeah, no kidding. Like team ownership, that's where it's at yeah yeah man just trying to try to try

to position myself i mean i have i have one thousand dollars to uh invest in this team can i see look you just a little bit too late we just did a round where uh you could have bought into uh that's his nickname too late too late you could have bought into the uh to the oakland roots we just raised $2 million in Oakland.

More so, like, you know, my team, my team. He could have bought into the Oakland roots.
We just raised $2 million in Oakland.

More so, like, you know, my team, my city.

It's something big going on within the Bay Area just because, you know,

within the last, what, five years, we done lost, what, the Raiders, the Warriors.

And the A's.

And I think I just heard the A's is going to be leaving too.

Wow.

Yeah. Why don't you start doing a show like our friends Rob and Ryan and just have cameras following you around.
You go visit all the teams that you own pieces of. That would be a good show.
Yeah, that would be a good show, actually. That's a good idea.
Thank you. It's not a bad idea.
Or a podcast. Thank you.
And we'll produce it through Smartless Media. Yeah, we will.
Great. We just made some money.
Well, that was why i came on here i'm trying to see here we go let's do that podcast going with you popping around and visiting on the teams that you own i want to hear locker room speeches i want to hear play-by-play there's all kinds of things we can wait wait a second i wanted i was going to ask you about locker room speeches because you worked with some great coaches you You worked with great players. You've got to know that Marshawn's quarterback when he was at Cal was none other than Aaron Rodgers.
And then his quarterback, while he was a pro for most of his career, was Russell Wilson, two of the all-time great quarterbacks. Coach was, for a long time, was Pete Carroll in Seattle.
I mean, you've been, it's funny. I feel like sometimes like great players and talents are attracted to each other.
And you got in with, you were with a lot of talented people. What was your relationship like with, with coaches? Well, specifically like Pete Carroll, but, but coaches in general through college and then into the pros early, early on in my career, like from, I'm going to go like this, Pop Warner High School, it was easy because all the coaches was, you know, from my neighborhood.
They understand how to speak to me, understand how to get the most out of me. Then going to college, considering I ain't, because I ain't growing up with no father in the household.
So going to college and then I have, I mean, in Oakland at this time, probably 90% black. I got a white head coach and this motherfucker don't got no filter.
And I'm talking about maybe one of the most, how could I say that? At the time, I thought, like, I regretted it. I'm like, man, this motherfucker racist.
I can't do nothing right. And then it was like, all of a sudden, it just clicked for me.
Like, oh, shit, no, he's not racist. This dude was preparing me for going to the league and what I was about to go through in the real world.
Knowing where I'm coming from, I mean, I was basically trapped in a box and he was opening my mind to shit that I didn't even know exist. Coaching was something that I didn't take lightly.
Like, man, fuck you. How you going to tell me what to do? Like, motherfucker, you ain't playing.
You ain't, you know what I mean? And then the running back coach that I had when I was in college, I found out he played DB. And I'm like, how the fuck you going to tell me how to be the greatest running back? And your motherfucking ass played DB.
Didn't make sense to me. But what it did was it taught me to learn from individuals from different perspectives.
He knew what it looked like as a running back coming downhill at a defensive back. Oh, interesting.
He didn't know what it looked like as a running back running down a defensive back. So he's able to tell me, when he tell me, Marshawn right here, square your shoulders up, he knew that DBs don't want to tackle running backs.
No. So make him make a business decision.
Make him stick his head through his shoulder pad. Yeah.
Make him wiggle his head through his shoulder pad. It doesn't work.
You know what I mean? It doesn't work. But I wasn't...
Only in the movies. It hurts.
Yeah, I wasn't paying attention to that early on. But like I said, when I figured it out, okay, this shit makes sense now.
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it seems to me that a guy like Pete Carroll, does he coach? I feel like a lot of his speeches are really esoteric, like really out there kind of like, are they football related? Or does he make a lot of like big sort of inspirational speeches about life? Am I right on that? I fuck with Pete pete i won the championship with him but as far as speeches and all you know i would i would leave out of his meetings did you do any standing up sleeping in the pete carroll meetings no i'd sit down sleeping in that motherfucker i wanted my good race dig in yeah yeah i would i, I would. You know, after a while, it just started to become repetitive for me.
Right. And then I'm not a guy who you need to, like, to get me ready to go and bust somebody.
Because I'm already at a disadvantage because that's what my lifestyle was. So I don't need that.

That extra shit, that shit just going to make me upset.

Make me like, all right, bro, you talking too much.

Like, I don't want to talk.

I just want to bust motherfuckers head.

And you keep talking.

You damn near talking me out of going to go bust a motherfucking head.

Now, I want to let them do something to you because you talk too much.

So I don't need rah, rah, rah.

Thank you. bust a motherfucking head.
Now, I want to let them do something to you because you talk too much, type situation. So I don't need rah, rah, rah.
And he was, you know, that type of guy. So, you know, anytime I could eliminate the rah, rah, rah, I would do that.
But, I mean, you know, I done had some great coaches along the way. You know, men who I feel has taught me, you know, to stand on principle, morals, and values, which I feel that that shit is a thing of the past.
Like, that shit is a myth. If you hear somebody standing on principle, morals, and values, like, for real, he did? Like, he must be hella old or something.
Like, that ain't something right now that is looked at as a good thing. And they taught me that walk, to walk with conviction as a man.
And, you know, I hold conversations with them till this day. Still, you know what I mean, contact with them and reach out to me, reach out to them, check on them.
But, I mean, you know, it's a funny thing because, mean, like I said, from my mindset before on the coach, like, was like, what you talking about right now? That shit don't concern me to, okay, no, these are individuals who have lives, families, and they actually walk with a purpose. And I feel that, you know what I mean? Once I opened up my mind to that, thanks to Coach Teffert, to seeing them for more than just telling me, okay, Marshawn, you got to run through the B gap.
You got to run through the C gap. Or you got to cut back right here.
And I took it for more than what it was worth. Shit started to open up for me.
And it was a big thing for me. And, you know what I mean, it's funny you talk about Pete Carroll because at the time he had got another coach over there, Tom Cable.
And that was, like, my connection. Tom Cable and Coach Sherman, those were my connections to the team.
That was how I got the information about what was going on because, you know, Pete was a little bit, he was too much for me. You know what I mean? Like, you wake, I'm telling you, you come in at, because I had weird-ass hours when you start talking about the gym and shit.
Like, I would come into the locker room maybe at 4 o'clock in the morning and, you know, I'd go do some extra work, sign a steam room, you know, maybe a little bike swimming or whatever. And it'll be about 5 o'clock in the morning, and I'll see Pete coming into the office, and he, hey, buddy, hey, how you doing? It's going to be a great day today.
Like, hey, hey. And he'll be like, what the fuck? Like, hey, look, it's 5 o'clock in the morning, bro.
Cool out. And he'll be like, hold on, man.
I just seen this motherfucker didn't leave out of the facility until like 11, 12 o'clock at night. And he's back at 5.
And he was leaving. Hey, buddy, I'm going home.
You can have a great night. I'll see you tomorrow.
Make sure you're ready on time. And you're like, hold on, this motherfucker.
Bro, this motherfucker. And then it ain't no difference when you see him at breakfast.
He come in that meeting the same way. You see the motherfucker at lunch the same way.
You see him on a practice field. You see him after practice and the meetings after that.
And when he going home, he the same way. And best believe, if you dare to see him come in in the morning, it's like, man, this motherfucker got to be a robot.
Marshawn, tell me, do I remember this right? Did you spend an entire season not talking to the media? A few seasons. What do you mean a season? There was a few of them.
Where you refused to talk to the media, right? What'd they do? What'd they do to make you take that position? What they did was they showed me who they was. They showed me who they was.
And the thing, like I said, I started to stand on principle, morals, and values. And because, I mean, you know, like I said, I was raised different.
I seen things through different lenses. And then I listened.
They used to come into the rooms and they tell, oh,, this, that, and the third, they're not your friend, Blasier, Blasier. And then they'll double back and say, you got to remember, no press is bad press.
What the fuck? So that was a conflict for me. And then you had a situation where it was a point in my career where everybody wasn't fucking with me, where I was doing shit that you would think a 20-year-old with a couple dollars in his pocket.
Some mistakes that would be made. And it would go from, I'll be here one day.
Hey, Marshawn, you're greatest. This, that, and the third.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And then I'd get in trouble, and then it was like, oh, I knew that motherfucker was a thug.
Oh, that motherfucker ain't shit. Oh, fuck him.
He needs to be in jail, not on the football. And then it was all this shit started to, and I'm like, damn, this the same motherfucker who I just seen last week was just telling me how much of a good run, and you know what I mean? He looked forward to seeing what comes out next week.
And then the motherfucker fucked up. They turned on you.
Motherfucker make a mistake. Or a motherfucker got caught doing some shit he shouldn't have been doing.
But the thing was, I seen how judgmental they was. And the thing was, all right, when y'all not recording and doing all of that shit,

it's hee-hee, and I'm, hold on, you motherfuckers,

it's too confusing.

It's too confusing to try to find out who you individuals truly are.

So in my terms, instead of, I'm thinking like,

you know what I mean?

If we was back in the hood, I'd beat your ass.

I'd roll your ass up. I'd take your camera, all that.
And I was like, oh, no, you can't. You can't do that.
You can't act that way. So it was more so like, hey, if you ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all.
Now, these individuals who, you know, talking big shit about me, I could care less what anybody else think about me. And if this is my way to get people to understand where I'm coming from and X, Y, and Z, fuck that.
Who I need to deal with, I'll talk to them individuals, let them know what's up. And then I just go about my business.
I didn't feel I needed to broadcast it to the. Sadly, we live, we live in times where, we're obviously we're, we're sort of negativity cells.
I've seen movie reviews that start off with like a negative headline and then you read it and it's like not a bad review. And I'm like, oh, you just wanted people to click on the shit and people just want that kind of shit, which sucks.
And it's not positive. I will say this.
One of the great positive things you do, I know, Marshawn, you've got your Fam First Family Foundation, which is pretty awesome. And I know you've been, like, doing a lot of giving back through that.
You want to talk about that for a little bit, how that came to be? Well, yeah, that's probably the longest standing business that I got. And probably the, I mean, that's, I started that immediately.
Well, I'm not going to say I. we started that immediately after I decided to enter the draft.
And, I mean, since then, we've just been on a tear. Like, I mean, it didn't matter.
Wherever help was needed, we tried to fill that gap. And what specifically, like, what's the mission? Like, who are you trying to help? Like, what's the main? The inner city youth, we looked at a lot of the kids, you know, from our neighborhood.
They don't get a fair shot. So we just tried to, you know what I mean, even it up a little bit by, you know, supplying some of the needs that they needed in order to, you know what I mean, be able to, you know, compete with, you know, somebody from a higher background or education level.
And I mean, you know, it just started as a football camp, but then it turned into architect camps. Like, we do an architect camp for the kids over at Cal.
Shout out to Cal for letting us utilize their facilities. We do, you know, reading programs, math programs, entrepreneur programs.
We got Shopify supplied us with some shit. And we do beast mode of business where they create their own business and, you know, able to have it go live on Shopify site.
I mean, anything that you could think of from coding to fucking building a shoe, creating clothing lines. I mean, teaching them ways in order to, you know, think outside the box of what, you know, I mean? We call it the 580 and the 880.
But to think outside of that and show them many ways, like with the production company, everybody think, like, you got to be the individual that's on the screen to make their money. Like, they don't know that there's a guy back there holding a mic, that there's a guy holding a camera, that you got grips, that you got motherfucking ADs and all these other things.
Like I said, I'm watching y'all right now to see. I see two people on this boat.
They don't know this. All they see is they're going to see the clip go from me talking my bullshit to Will to YouTube, and that's all they're going to see and say,

oh, I want to do that, not knowing it's a whole team that made all of this shit come alive.

Yeah, there's actually a group of people that are making it.

The people on screen are just in it.

Jason, you said this once, and I love this.

Everybody on set, when you go on a movie,

everybody from catering to background holding to locations to teams, the driver, you know, everybody's a filmmaker, right? Yeah. Everybody on that set is a filmmaker, and it's what makes it so great.
There's no one there that doesn't need to be there. That's exactly right.
I love, Marshall, I love that you're doing that, and it doesn't surprise me because I know, you know, I've gotten to know you're such a great guy. And, man, I'm just, it's so great to be able to talk to you.
We've held you here too long, kind of held you hostage. But I just want to, I could.
No, I told you, you folks, Brad, you good in the hood, man, anytime. So it's good.
I had no problem with that. Marshawn, you're the best, man.
Thank you. Continued success, my friend.
Thank you, Marshawn. You're just always you.
Yeah. Yeah.
And we'll talk soon. Thanks for being here.
Thank you, Marshawn. All right, all good, man.
Y'all have a blessed day, man. Nice meeting you.
You too. Thank you, Marshawn.
What a sweet fella. What a great guy, huh? Yeah.
How cool is it that here's a guy who has not just a football career, but he wins a Super Bowl and he goes to the Pro Bowl and he's a first team all pro. He does every basically thing he can do as an NFL player.
Superstar. And then has this, retires three times, by the way, he retired because he kept coming back.
And then he retires and he turns all that into, becomes this entrepreneur and he goes into the arts and goes into all this stuff. And I'm like, this dude is unbelievable.
He truly is. He's gone beast mode through life,

not just on the football field.

He's just gone beast mode into everything he does.

And I have so much respect for the guy.

He's such a cool dude.

It sounds like he didn't need to.

He held onto his money and he probably doesn't need

to continue working so hard,

but that's just part of his makeup.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that too.

He's such a savvy dude and he's just so cool.

And again, I should point out,

he's such a good, good person too. So I'm lucky.
I'm lucky that he came and did it. I'm lucky that I know him.
Yeah, he seems very kind. Yeah, he is very kind.
Did you guys see Jason's headline, that meltdown thing? No. Yeah, the little stuff you guys chopped together and put on the show.
It's like Bateman has meltdown. What are you talking about? No, no, I know.
But to your point earlier, you said in the interview here that people will find a headline just so you can click through. Yeah, click right.
And the fact that I said in it that I had a full meltdown, they were able to use that, put quotes around it, and then say Bateman has, quote quote full meltdown on podcast so it's dumb it's the headline they need yeah but it's good it's good press for us i guess i haven't looked on the internet and i'm so stymied by that well you'd you'd need a google a google alert on smartless and or me oh i'm gonna get one i'm gonna look into that i might lease one you're gonna Google Alert? Yeah. What does it cost you to get into one of those? Well, the rental's pretty steep, but...
Well, you know what, though? Maybe I can... Yeah.
Go ahead, Shane. No, you go ahead.
We're going to do it first. I was going to say, maybe you could, if you can't afford a full subscription, maybe you could do a bye monthly.
Bye monthly.

Why are you holding your stomach?

Bye.

You have an Abe Froman t-shirt on.

That's pretty good.

Sausage King of Chicago.

That's right.

Jason, say bye.

Bye.

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