"Tom Holland"

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Speaker 1 Hey, so you know, right off the bat, I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this.

Speaker 1 Listener, you two, this is the start of our fourth year. We have completed three years as of yesterday.
Right. Today is the first episode of our fourth year.
So it's our birthday, third year birthday.

Speaker 1 Sorry. I mean, we look terrible.
Just green people.

Speaker 1 We look terrible for three years old,

Speaker 1 but we feel good. We feel young.
And listen, I'm breathing in the fourth.

Speaker 1 And we wouldn't be in our fourth year if it wasn't for you guys. Thank you very much for listening and caring and giving a poop about anything we have to say for God.

Speaker 1 Thanks for not getting sick of Will and Sean yet. I mean, it's we just, it's surprising.
It's surprising that you're still here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe a little thanks to our team?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, shit. And thanks to our, and Bennett wanted me to mention thanks to the team, you know, who does it,

Speaker 1 Bennett and Rob and Michael, Bennett Barbico and

Speaker 1 Robert Armyarv. Armyarv.
Armyarv.

Speaker 1 And Michael Terry,

Speaker 1 who

Speaker 1 without them,

Speaker 1 well, we'd still make it happen. I mean, we would just be bad.
Our wings would not flap flap as fast. We would not fly as fast.
We just wouldn't be good. We would do it, but it would just suck.

Speaker 1 Certainly true.

Speaker 1 They make our lives better. And I also want to say a shout out to the woman out there who comments on one of our posts and said, Arnett will just shut up.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 just say, you're heard. Anyway, happy birthday to our night.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to us and to you guys and all of the smarties out there.

Speaker 1 Guys,

Speaker 1 here we are. Yep.
And

Speaker 1 it's a podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get podcasting.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, exactly. So, how do we get into podcasting? Do you guys do any

Speaker 1 stretching or anything like vocal exercises? Pod, pod, pod. I'll do pod leather.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll do like a vocal, like red leather, yellow leather,

Speaker 1 yellow leather.

Speaker 1 How about you? Try, try. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go. It's an all-new smart list.
What? Smart.

Speaker 1 Smart.

Speaker 1 Here comes Jay. Here comes Jason.
Uh-oh, everybody, be nervous. Everybody be nervous.
What are you wearing? I'm wearing... It looks like a 12-year-old's shirt with a...

Speaker 1 What's happening? Listen. No, he's playing golf today.

Speaker 1 But with a long sleeve on? Well, that's going to be warm out, dude. UV protection.
Okay. I'm trying to be smart with the sun.
And I'm also trying to be stylish at the same time.

Speaker 1 You know, I've got on G4 here. You can't go wrong with that.

Speaker 1 I'm a little fashion forward, you know?

Speaker 1 It's just, it's just, it's just forward towards

Speaker 1 it. I know.
I know. Yeah.
Okay. And the hair is friends.
You can't pull it off.

Speaker 1 I wear Foot Joy, which is what title is. I wear the Heritage brands.

Speaker 1 And you can't pull that off. You can't pull off a Heritage brand.

Speaker 1 It's not in your DNA. Hey, you know, speaking of DNA, you know what today is? Jay, you know, I talked about it with you last night, but Sean, you're going to be excited.

Speaker 1 I've had to have coffee with no cream this morning.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Wait, now, did you start? What do you mean? Well, I started in a couple hours. Today, I've got my first ever colonoscopy tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Oh, so you can't do.

Speaker 1 I see. You can't eat anything.
Wait, that's tomorrow. So you're doing a cleanse today.
Yeah. are you starving yeah i'm starving and i've really yeah i've done this i've done this like three four times

Speaker 1 why they're making you do it in the middle three four times yeah well i i had uh a a situation back in the uh when i was 30 or 10 yeah no i was with you i was with you

Speaker 1 you were 34 triggered it jason and i were doing a scene from rest of home we were in a

Speaker 1 fight scene and all of a sudden he got he went like white as a sheet like he was just

Speaker 1 exhausted. I just couldn't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 Will's a bit, you know, he's like

Speaker 1 wrestling a boa, you know, it's going to take some energy out of you. Sean knows he tried to wrestle me on the lake, the frozen lake, and was coming.
The frozen lake and the died. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, and the funny of this fight was supposedly that it just went on and on and on and on. You know, that was the joke.
And so

Speaker 1 we did have to do it for a long time. Yeah.
And I was like, I shouldn't be this tired. I'm not this out of shape.
And so I went and saw a doctor. I'm like, oh, you're battling something.

Speaker 1 It turned out to be something in my GI. So anyway, they should

Speaker 1 only have you do this like starting at like 6 p.m. So you're on the throne for a few hours.
You go to bed, you wake up and you do your procedure. But they have two options, right?

Speaker 1 You could go five in the morning or like at the moment. I'm going five in the morning.
Yeah. Oh, God.
That's the you should be able to eat all day, I think, and then clean out at night.

Speaker 1 They claim, no, they gave me explicit instructions starting this morning, do not eat anything, only have bone broth. I should call Gwyneth and get to her bone broth, actually.

Speaker 1 Could you start eliminating it? I have not. No, thank you.
They also said

Speaker 1 that they now do the procedure in a big shower

Speaker 1 wing. They have an operating room that's also doubles as a shower.
Is it the Bateman? Is it the Bateman EO? It's the new Bateman wing at Cedars.

Speaker 1 So you can clean as you go. Maybe colonoscopy is in the shower now.

Speaker 1 Everybody's in a bathing suit.

Speaker 1 It's kind of hot. Sean, if you, oh, yeah, no, you, you are, yes, you get that famous story about you told them to leave

Speaker 1 your rear door alone. You said, don't touch my asshole right before you went to the past.

Speaker 1 But wait a minute. I talked to a guy yesterday who had 35.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That sounds like a little bit of a drink. What do you mean by that? He's 35.
What? He's had 35

Speaker 1 colonoscopies. That sounds like

Speaker 1 a history. Little shop of horrors.
Yeah. Right? Didn't Bill Murray play that in the movie? He just keeps going to the dentist because he loves the pain.

Speaker 1 Nice. Remember that? There was an episode of Arrested Development, too.
I know everybody's like, stop mentioning Arrested Development, but

Speaker 1 when Cross's character became addicted to the side effects of a drug, wasn't that?

Speaker 1 Well, I know he got a hair transplant, and the hair transplant rejected the body instead of the body rejecting the hair transplant.

Speaker 1 So his hair just kept growing more and more and more luxurious, and his body was just atrophying. But he didn't want to reverse it because the hair was so beautiful.
So he was willing to die.

Speaker 1 I remember him saying something about he used the word shunt at some point.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so but tomorrow I'm expecting to be like

Speaker 1 20 pounds. Yeah, yeah.
I can't wait to do a lot of selfies tomorrow. Yo, when that when that bite comes out of your colon, that'll eliminate about nine pounds.

Speaker 1 You're going to be like a great white shark. They're going to cut you open.
There's going to be stuff in there, Willie.

Speaker 1 Do you know how much ice cream

Speaker 1 they're going to find in there? I know, me too.

Speaker 1 Is that your, is that your, well, who were we talking to the other night who eats a pint of ice cream every night? Other than Sean?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Uh, Will's Jimmy.
Does he eat a pint of ice cream every night? A pint of ice cream every night. And he's, he's a lean man.
He's a thin man. How does that work?

Speaker 1 Well, Sean, you're pretty lean and you, you eat like you're going to the chair.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 1 I do have ice cream almost every night. Almost every night.
I do. I do too.
I go through phases where I'll have. But I lose it the next day.
Yeah. You know, fall.
Well, we found it.

Speaker 1 And you see, I found it again.

Speaker 1 Well, my cookie pan. If you're looking for it, it's on your face.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get into our guest.

Speaker 1 Wow. Guys, I've really upped my game today in this cool department.
This is my guest. I don't know.
I'm not even cool enough to ask him the dumb questions I have.

Speaker 1 You've upped your game to the cool department. Got it.
Wait, this is a good question. You don't need to ask the dumb questions, by the way.
You can just go with the flow.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but I come prepared with some dumb questions. Did you write this intro? That's rare for you.
This must be somebody you have respect for.

Speaker 1 I did write a little bit of it. Yes, you write yours.

Speaker 1 I do, yeah. Willie just likes

Speaker 1 just kind of minor freestyle. Minor fun.
Today, guys, we know him as a superhero and Hollywood heartthrob.

Speaker 1 His lip sync battle mashup of Gene Kelly and Rihanna is still one of the most talked about and watched celebrity lip syncs of all time.

Speaker 1 Gwyneth Paltrow famously doesn't remember being in a movie with him. And before he entered the Marvel universe, he was performing ballet every night night in the West End.

Speaker 1 It's the infectious, lovable Tom Holland. Tom Holland.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Oh, God, you're aware. Good morning, Tom.
Tom, can I call you Tommy?

Speaker 2 Of course you can.

Speaker 1 Tommy, you've been on my list for like two years, and I've been trying to get you to come on the show. This is so exciting for me.
You almost said a year, and then you doubled it.

Speaker 1 I almost said a year, and then I remembered. It's been like two years.
Wait, now, Tom, you're a golfer.

Speaker 2 I'm mad.

Speaker 1 What do you think about this beautiful G4 shirt I've got on here? It's pink. I'm saying G4.
Well, it's a great company. I want to give you some props.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure about

Speaker 2 the underlayer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but there's son out here. Let him talk.

Speaker 2 I tell you what, actually, Jason, my brother Harry, we were shooting a movie in Atlanta, I think, probably at the same time. He was at the Bobby Jones driving range and saw you there.

Speaker 1 We were going to go play golf, I think, weren't we?

Speaker 2 And he said to me, I said, did you say hello? And he said, no, he's nursing a pretty intense slice right now.

Speaker 1 I didn't feel like it was the right time to go. I would have struck him with my butt with my club yeah just ripping slices off the tee Tom I heard that by the way

Speaker 1 great to meet you man and and I heard from a mutual friend that we have actually

Speaker 1 that you are a great golfer and he he claims that you're like a two

Speaker 1 can you confirm that

Speaker 2 I'm not a two no I'm a four

Speaker 2 oh yeah But I played this weekend. I just went upstate to play golf to get away from the city and enjoy some golf.

Speaker 2 I was one over the the front nine with like some serious golf being played and 13 over the back nine. Completely capitulating.

Speaker 1 Because you're working too much. You need to

Speaker 1 be a less good actor and you won't get hired. You know what they say? They say

Speaker 1 if you're shooting over 80,

Speaker 1 you have no business playing golf. And if you shoot under 80, you have no business.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you something. I don't know anything you're talking about.
What would my number be?

Speaker 1 130, probably. Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 I mean, it would probably, I bet you if if you, a guy who probably has never played before, you'd get a like a triple bogey on every hole. So that's a three times 18 is, what, 56? 56 on top.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's about 130. And so, and you're a four, Tom? 54.

Speaker 2 I'm a four, but I'm a loose four. You know, I couldn't consider myself to be a true four.
I just had some lessons.

Speaker 1 I haven't had a lot of money. I'm a loose 130.

Speaker 1 How did you get so good at golf? You're so young. Doesn't it? It takes a lifetime to become a four, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 I think I just played as a kid. My dad was really into it.
It's the thing that I've always done with my dad that we bonded over, that I've always had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 And then I gave up for a long time when I just thought it was boring as a kid. I just couldn't get into it.

Speaker 1 And then I was on set of

Speaker 2 Spider-Man 2. And I was outside.
I ended up speaking to one of the chippies on set who was building some sort of spaceship or something. And he ended up playing golf.

Speaker 2 We were shooting at a golf course. We all ended up going out playing golf and we all became best friends.
I have a collection of like 10 people. If I'm back in London, I play every single day.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 they're all, I mean, they're like plus one, plus two, like proper, proper golfers. So I'm constantly chasing them.
But I had some lessons the other day with this guy who's fantastic.

Speaker 2 And I know that what he's saying will ultimately make me a better player. But right now, I'm fucked.
Like literally, I'm missing both ways, fatting it, thinning it, missing putts.

Speaker 2 It's tough out there right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I feel you, Adriana.
Well, you're hitting all the stuff I wanted to talk about. Your questions are gone, I guess, though, right, Sean?

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you were going to say something like, Well, you're hitting it out of the park with your career, Mr. Holland.
Let me talk to you about

Speaker 1 well, that would have been better. By the way, happy belated birthday.
Thank you. June 1st.
June 1st. June 1st.

Speaker 1 How old does that make you?

Speaker 2 27, mate. 27.

Speaker 1 Good, good. Good for you.
Such a young man. Do you guys remember what were you doing at 27, Willie?

Speaker 1 Well, I wasn't crushing it. I'll tell you that much.
Sean? I got Will and Grace at 27. Did you really? There you go.
Nice. There you go.
27 years ago.

Speaker 2 I loved Will and Grace. I was always watching that.
My mom and I when I was a kid. Fuck me.

Speaker 1 That was cool.

Speaker 1 God bless you. I thought you were too young to know what that was.

Speaker 2 No, absolutely not. I love that show.

Speaker 1 You were born in Kingston upon Thames. Is that how you say it? Or Thames.
Thames, yeah.

Speaker 2 Thames. The River Thames, yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 West London, right? Correct. And you still live there?

Speaker 2 I do, yes.

Speaker 1 And who's in your house?

Speaker 2 In my house, it's me, my two brothers, two of my best friends live with me. Wait a minute.
That I went to drama school with. We have the most timid version of what a frat house would be.

Speaker 2 We're all obsessed with golf. We get early nights and we're on the tea early in the morning.

Speaker 1 So can I move in? I know this is our dream come true.

Speaker 2 I actually have spare space, please. I've been in here already.

Speaker 1 I'm living with somebody that has a deep allergy to golf, and it's not great for my game.

Speaker 1 I'm just picturing Jason living with all of you 20-somethings and there's a 54-year-old living with 20 something year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you have room for a really grumpy, hungry 54-year-old? Oh, I know my salads won't get eaten in the fridge. That's true.

Speaker 1 Those will be safe.

Speaker 1 So hang on. It's your two brothers and two friends that are in the house with you?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it's me, Sam, Harry, and then Harrison and Twain.

Speaker 2 And we're all in there together.

Speaker 2 You know, it's a pretty harmonious experience. Everyone kind of does their bit.
We look after the house. Someone cooks.
My brother Sam actually, thankfully, is a professional chef,

Speaker 1 which is a touch.

Speaker 2 Like, you come home and he's practicing and doing what he does best, and you get gourmet

Speaker 2 every night.

Speaker 1 You do it every night?

Speaker 2 Every night, yeah, it's glorious.

Speaker 1 So he's rent-free, then, right? Oh, absolutely, absolutely, rent-free. And

Speaker 1 how much do you want to bet? There's a big TV in the house.

Speaker 2 There's a glorious TV. I just actually put in a little drop-down screen for movies and we play poker, put the golf on, and sit down.
It's a vibe, man.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I was doing. I'm moving out of.

Speaker 2 Listen, if you're ever in London and you want to play some poker and watch the golf on a Sunday night, this master's weekend, past weekend, one of the best weekends of my life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Tom, keep it going.

Speaker 1 Be 27 when you're 27. Just knock it out of the park.
Good for you. Yeah.
So you're the oldest of four boys, Tom, right? Yes. And your parents were both artists.

Speaker 1 Tell me about growing up and like with your mom. Like, what did your mom and dad do?

Speaker 2 so my mom's a she was a photographer um and sort of like a lifestyle photographer like she'd take families out to the park and take pictures of them and do that sort of stuff nice my dad's a stand-up and he has been since he was what 201 I thought come on does he still do it oh yeah yeah he's still gigging all the time and really

Speaker 2 he's a pleasure like he's hilarious I can't bring anyone over to my house without him absolutely just ripping them a new one

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 2 you know

Speaker 2 i have to like prepare my friends like just so you know my dad's a stand-up especially when i was young i didn't understand what it was i was like apparently he goes out and tells jokes at night or something i don't know what it is that he does but he's gonna take the piss and you and you guys basically provide him material right 100 does all the family stuff work into work into his his sets Yeah, there's a few things.

Speaker 2 I've been to see him like a handful of times when he'll allow us to go and see him. And I don't know if he like plays up to it that we're in the audience or if he you know

Speaker 2 if that's what he's like all the time but it's pretty ruthless bless my poor mum my mum has got the thickest skin of anyone i've ever met in my life because the shit that he comes out with i mean he did a he did a um he did a charity gig for my school once

Speaker 2 so all my mum's best friends are there all my kids all of my school friends are there all the school teachers are there and the shit that he was coming out about my mum terrible idea is but the thing is is she finds it hilarious she she's sitting there there laughing.

Speaker 2 She gets the last laugh, and she's an amazing lady, my mom.

Speaker 1 So she's a little bit more. Jason does some stand-up.
He's got one joke. It's great.

Speaker 1 Well, which one? Oh, God. The only one you do.

Speaker 1 Please don't. No.

Speaker 1 God, it's the worst. I don't know how to tell it, but it's funny.
Just trust me, Tom, all right? So, and all your brother, everybody's in the biz.

Speaker 2 Well, sort of. I mean.

Speaker 1 Except for the chef.

Speaker 2 Except for the chef.

Speaker 1 He's a caterer, on-set caterer.

Speaker 2 On-set caterer. We could get him in there.

Speaker 2 Trap him in the cage that they keep those boys.

Speaker 1 But everybody works as actors, no?

Speaker 2 Patty's an actor. The younger one's an actor, but he's too young to really say he's an actor.
He's like still at school, still enjoying himself.

Speaker 2 He is lucky enough to be working in the summer and enjoys it. I don't think it's what he feels 100% that he wants to do.

Speaker 2 But he loves it, and he's really good at it. He's super, super talented, and he's very natural.
My younger brother, Harry, who's here with me in New York right now, he's a young, aspiring filmmaker.

Speaker 2 He has his first short premiering tomorrow at Tribeca, which is super exciting.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, Harry. That's great.

Speaker 1 That's really cool.

Speaker 1 We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 Does your dad, like, does he hang out with other comics? Were there other comics around the house growing up? Did you spend time with, are those his mates?

Speaker 2 I remember like as kids, like going to barbecues and stuff and being aware of the comic scene and like knowing them as dad's work friends and just thinking like wow dad has like the strangest group of friends like they are really sad people man like I thought he was supposed to fucking make people laugh and my dad is like my dad is a very happy go-lucky you know positive guy I feel like my dad's a giver he comes into a room and he gives a great energy and Fuck, some of his friends come in and you're like, wow, what happened to that guy?

Speaker 2 You know, and then you see him on TV and you're like, he's hilarious. I think he's fantastic.
It's a tricky one.

Speaker 1 Is his brand of humor... My mother's British, and so I got kind of like a dry appreciation for dry humor.
Is he dry like that? Or is your humor dry like that? He's dry.

Speaker 2 I'd say I'm pretty dry, too. He lets the material do the talking.
Like, he's not a performative comedian. Like, he really trusts his material and he relies on the joke and he knows it's funny.

Speaker 2 So he doesn't add to it. Everything is very kind of one note.
But I like that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 It means the material has to be better.

Speaker 1 And are you drawn towards comedy stuff? Do you want to start banging out a bunch of comedies and do that kind of thing or what?

Speaker 2 I've always, always, always wanted to do a comedy. And it wasn't too long ago I was doing, I was in Brazil and I did this show for, I think it was Spider-Man 2 or Spider-Man 1.

Speaker 2 There was like 7,000 people in the audience.

Speaker 2 And I was on stage for an hour. with a compare who was like asking me questions and stuff.

Speaker 2 And it was the greatest experience of my life because I felt like a rock star like everything I said everyone would fucking laugh so I called my dad and was like dad dad I just did like an hour on stage and like I fucking ripped the shit out of it like let's do this like help me write some comedy and he just hung up he was like yeah this never happened

Speaker 1 really

Speaker 2 But uh, but yeah, no,

Speaker 2 I'm not bold enough to step on stage and do what he does, but I'd love to, I'd love to do a comedy one day.

Speaker 1 Who are some of the actors that make you laugh? That are, that are, like, are you like a Will Farrell fan like me and

Speaker 1 those folks? Or do you like

Speaker 1 do you like comedy that comes a little bit more from actors that are doing a character as opposed to

Speaker 1 being broad? I guess Will does really deep characters that are like he those guys.

Speaker 2 I love Will's stuff.

Speaker 2 I love his ability to improv. The stuff that you do is my favorite without a shadow of a doubt.

Speaker 1 Well, but I'm not being funny, funny like Arnett or Farrell or folks that really know how to get people. I'm the guy you turn to

Speaker 1 to sort of like the guy who's not laughing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that's funny, though. I like that.
Yeah. It's that dry humor.
It's similar.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, I love it too.

Speaker 2 I fucking love that line you do when you said when you're like driving in a Prius or something, is it in Horrible Bosses?

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I was like, you were drag racing in a Prius?

Speaker 1 I don't win a lot. I like that.

Speaker 1 I should make a better choice.

Speaker 1 Tom, one of the things I think is super cool is that you're a straight guy who took ballet lessons. Like, I think that's,

Speaker 1 you know, not that straight guys can't or it's just gay guys do or whatever, but it's like, you know what I mean? It's just, it's, it's, it's refreshing to see you tackle that. And was nine years old?

Speaker 1 Was that what it was?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was, I was, um, I was training for this show on the West End at the time called Billie Elliott. Yeah.
And I went to like a very traditional rugby school.

Speaker 2 I, I, I was pretty good rugby player as a kid and then everyone just grew and I stayed the smallest kid even today. I couldn't compete in the under-12s league.
I beat two.

Speaker 2 And I just, I remember like getting bullied at school and trying to convince people, like, guys,

Speaker 2 there's me and 30 girls in tights on a daily basis. And I'm telling you, like, rugby is not where this is at.
Like, can you join me?

Speaker 2 But I could never convince anyone. But I loved ballet.
For me, as an actor, like, especially doing things like Spider-Man that are so physical.

Speaker 1 Comes in handy.

Speaker 2 It's been such a great resource to rely on. And that's that I've lost every ounce of flexibility.

Speaker 1 But you're obviously a big, and you mentioned that you play rugby, but and that you are physical, and that you're, that you like sports, you like golf.

Speaker 1 I saw you waving the checkered flag at Monaco last week. Nice.

Speaker 2 Yes, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 It's great going to those races, isn't it?

Speaker 2 Dude, like one of the best weekends I've ever had. I took all my brothers, I took some friends.
And until you've been there and like seen it for real,

Speaker 2 and hearing it.

Speaker 1 And you feel it, right? When they, I mean, it's insane.

Speaker 2 And it, like, you can feel your ribcage.

Speaker 1 Especially there, too. All those engine noises going through all those buildings, through those corridors.

Speaker 2 It's just excellent. And also, like, at the end of the day, like, qualifying's done, they open the track.

Speaker 2 You can walk from restaurant to restaurant via the track and like see the tire marks across the floor. It's, it's unlike, I love sport.
I'm obsessed.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's, you know, I'll watch anything that's on television.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do you watch, are you a, are you a big football fan?

Speaker 1 I'm like a soccer fan yeah yeah i'm yeah i'm a totnam fan regrettably are you yeah it's tough man man this is a tough spell you guys are going through i mean you've got that new manager but still it's a tough didn't gareth play for tottenham willie he sure did yeah yeah you're talking about gareth bale yeah we play golf with gareth a bunch yeah he's a good golfer i have really good he's a two yeah yeah you would love him he's yeah he's such a nice guy he's got a really pretty swing doesn't he yeah yeah willie you into your soccer do you sport a team yeah yeah i'm a liverpool supporter lives for it okay yeah I'm a massive, massive supporter.

Speaker 1 I watch. I was at World Cup.
I mean, I'm a massive fan.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. How did you come to Liverpool?

Speaker 1 My partner, my writing partner, not just to clarify, Chappelle. No, you're straight.
That's taken. Hey, man.
No, no, no. I'm just

Speaker 1 I would do ballet too, by the way. I have no problem.

Speaker 2 Come on, let's do it.

Speaker 1 I would. I would.

Speaker 1 Mark Chappell, the great chappie whom these guys know, is once an episode.

Speaker 1 He lives in London, but he's a big Liverpool sport, and he got me into Liverpool. Okay.

Speaker 1 And I was saying the other day, like, I wasn't really as aware of it. I mean, I love any sport.
Jason's the same. I'll watch anything.

Speaker 1 And then got into soccer, you know, football like 12 years ago. And once I got into it and got deeper into it, I just,

Speaker 1 I'm a massive hockey fan growing up in Canada. And then football has now surpassed hockey, I think.
I just, I can't get enough of it, man. Do you guys know all the chants?

Speaker 1 You know, I think it's so cool that there's chants. I wish we had chants in baseball.

Speaker 2 Some of the chants, like, I remember going to see a basketball game in New York and people are like, dude, you're not going to believe the atmosphere. Like, it's going to blow your socks off.

Speaker 1 And then you get there and it's like, let's get louder.

Speaker 1 Shut up. Like, let's come up with something better than this.
Wait, Jay, they have that organ.

Speaker 1 On charge, that's it. It's a one-word chant.

Speaker 1 The chants in football in Europe and in England, in the Premier League, are not only are they so good, some of them are so clever and hilarious. And they just sound haunting as they go through this.

Speaker 2 It's terrifying.

Speaker 2 And you go to some of these places, you go to Versailles, you go to Marseille, you go to Germany and Dortmund and see these teams, like the way they rally together and how song just like explodes out of people somehow in unison.

Speaker 2 I don't understand how it happened.

Speaker 1 That's a true home field advantage.

Speaker 1 The first professional football match I went to was in Madrid for Atletico Madrid at their old stadium.

Speaker 1 And I was not, and it was a Sunday night game. I remember at like sort of eight o'clock, and I was not prepared for the chance and the feeling in the crowd.
Nobody sat the entire match.

Speaker 1 Everybody was standing, and it was electric. Just even if you weren't a fan of the sport, as a human being, it was an experience.

Speaker 1 Are you still watching rugby?

Speaker 2 I like rugby. I mean, I love rugby.
I love the sport. I think it's amazing.

Speaker 2 I don't love rugby culture. Right.

Speaker 2 Rugby culture is so much about like, how much can you drink. Let's all get as drunk as possible.
And I don't drink, so I'm a little bit like out of that world. Right, right.

Speaker 1 You ever see Australian Rules?

Speaker 2 Aussie Rules is crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's sort of a hybrid of soccer. It's good.
Have you ever been to one of those matches down there? It's amazing.

Speaker 2 I haven't. It's somewhat like, have you ever seen Gaelic football?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Gaelic football is, I guess, like the Irish equivalent. to Aussie Rules.
But another sport you should check out, I think it's called hurling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hurling.

Speaker 2 And they have like a hockey stick, but the end of the hockey stick is slightly wider.

Speaker 2 They have, I think it's a wooden ball, and they basically like flick it up and they catch it on it and they're bloody or they're bruised.

Speaker 1 It sounds like you

Speaker 1 can get hurt. It's sort of like

Speaker 1 it's polo without the horses, right? Exactly. That's exactly what it is.
Sounds like Quidditch.

Speaker 1 Quidditch? Quidditch. Oh, shout out.
Quidditch.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys. Hey, hey, guys.

Speaker 1 Quick shout-out from the nerd department.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys, it reminds me a lot of Quinnage.

Speaker 1 According to the rules.

Speaker 1 Hey, Tom, how did, with all of this,

Speaker 1 what was your first, how did you start?

Speaker 1 What was your first thing as an actor?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 your first thing where you're like,

Speaker 1 I want to be an actor. I want to do this.
I want to be in a play.

Speaker 2 Apparently, I used to love this one Janet Jackson song when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 Which one? I live for her. Oh, boy.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 Apparently, my mom posted it for my birthday, a video of me as a kid dancing to it. And apparently, Janet Jackson actually reposted it.

Speaker 1 Like, was it like Rhythm Nation or something like that?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I could find it.
But anyway, my mom just.

Speaker 1 I was one of her backup dancers. I was one of her backgrounds.
Really? Yeah. On Will and Will and Grace.

Speaker 2 You weren't the picture of the hands. That wasn't you?

Speaker 1 No. Sean and I did a dance.
Sean and I had a dance-off on an episode of Will and Grace once. With Janet Jackson.
With Janet Jackson. Jason came to taping.
Yeah. Yeah, you got to Google that, Tom.

Speaker 1 It's life-changing.

Speaker 2 I'm going to look that up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty pretty good.

Speaker 1 Okay, so wait,

Speaker 1 so you were into Janet?

Speaker 2 I would do like these hip-hop classes on a Saturday, and I got spotted by this headmaster of this school to audition for Billie Elliott.

Speaker 2 They started training me and doing ballet and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 I ended up auditioning for this show because I thought it would be fun. I enjoyed the process of auditioning.
I got the gig.

Speaker 2 I got an agent through the gig. My parents were like, well, I mean, there's no harm in him having an agent.
They sent me one screen test, self-tape for a film.

Speaker 2 i did it i was like 12 and i got the part and it was this film called the impossible with yeah the watch which is about the tsunami it's another one of your questions sean i'm sure

Speaker 2 and then i just for you tom you get the picture now you're getting it welcome to our life and then i just never stopped doing it i just kind of i guess i reached that age where i was maybe 16 17 i was like i can either keep my head down and like stick with school and try and figure out what I would do if I'm going to go and get 15 millions and crushing ass, right?

Speaker 1 It's a tough choice.

Speaker 1 Tom, it sounds like from a young age, you had very naturally what Jason likes to call sexy indifference. We'll be right back after these movies.

Speaker 1 Because you're not. I just didn't care.
I love that he's like, I just didn't care. And I just thought, yeah, I got this part.
I got this movie. And then look what happens.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, Sean is begging. He's that casting director whose doors are flopped.

Speaker 1 He's got a new headshot. Don't know if you've seen anything.
Just make a cross under the door here. Slide it under their door.
Just so we can make a cross in a fucking, in a Hawaiian punch commercial.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, just anything, please. My payment with free product.
Tom, when did you start perfecting your American accent? Because it's just, it's, it's seamless.

Speaker 1 And is it hard? I've asked this before. Is American accent hard to do?

Speaker 1 I think as a Brit, we're so

Speaker 2 like surrounded by American culture. We watch your shows, we watch your films, we listen to your music.
It's a big part of our lives back.

Speaker 1 By the way, same.

Speaker 1 We watch, we're infatuated with the British. Right, but we don't understand all the class differences of the British accent.
Right. I do.

Speaker 2 But, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Somebody was on, I can't remember who we had on. They said one of the hardest words to say

Speaker 1 with an American accent being a Brit is murderer.

Speaker 1 Murderer.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's not easy. Murderer.

Speaker 1 Murderer. Oh, shit.

Speaker 2 I find L's difficult to say.

Speaker 1 Can you say Arnold Palmer?

Speaker 2 Arnold Palmer? See, that's hard.

Speaker 1 See, L is hard. Arnold Palmer.

Speaker 1 Now, do you get, it would be hard for me to do an accent as an actor because I would be thinking more about the pronunciation instead of the performance. Is that a hard thing for you to separate?

Speaker 2 I think for me, with accents, I like it because it's like an immediate, different

Speaker 2 side to yourself.

Speaker 2 I think that the jobs where I've struggled the most is where I'm doing it in my own accent.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 Because it doesn't feel like enough of a departure from who I am.

Speaker 1 You have trouble leaving Tom.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I don't know. My dad's a, you know, he's a comic, so he's always grown up doing accents.
It's something he's really good at. We grew up with him doing it always around the dinner table.
So

Speaker 2 I love doing accents.

Speaker 1 Now, it sounds like you have a lot of people. What about you? Have you done it?

Speaker 2 Have you tried a British accent?

Speaker 1 I mean, a bit here and there, yeah, but I would. I wouldn't.
No.

Speaker 1 No, let's see. It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 You don't want it right now? I mean, I would.

Speaker 1 I would do it. If I got cast in a part, part, I would definitely,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't shy away from the part. But I do think

Speaker 1 there is something to focus on. Will, you say you've got your hands around the class differences and all the different English.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I understand it. Yeah, I could hear Tom's accent, which is,

Speaker 1 and I figured you were sort of like Eastern Northeast London.

Speaker 1 Am I right about that?

Speaker 2 Southwest London, but

Speaker 1 really, that's Southwest?

Speaker 2 I have a bit of a weird accent. I don't really sound like where I'm from.
I sound like the people I surround myself with. Most of my mates are all facky, cockney blind.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's why you have a little bit of a

Speaker 1 little bit of that. Like, just get the job done, do the job.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right. I try, yeah.
I've lost the sort of posh twang I grew up with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my name is Ron.

Speaker 2 Father's telling me how I should and shouldn't speak, darling.

Speaker 1 My name's Ron. I'm a plastor.
He's Roddy's a plumber.

Speaker 1 We follow the Spurs.

Speaker 2 That's not bad at all. And also, because I'm Spurs as well, you'd think I'm North London.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So you say, well, the people you surround yourself with, it does sound like you keep a very normal circle around you

Speaker 1 and that that's not a struggle for you. You seem like a very, very normal guy.
Is it something that

Speaker 1 you battle with, all of this sort of fame and fortune and permissive people around you? Is it tough for you to keep your head on your shoulders or has it come easy?

Speaker 2 I don't think so. I think my parents did a good job of, you know, keeping us in check, especially later on.

Speaker 2 You know, I think I've seen lots of friends where you become successful and all of a sudden like your parents rely on you to, you know, bring in the bread or keep the family going and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 And I've been really lucky that my parents have never done that. They've always been my parents.
It's still, you know, I listen to my dad.

Speaker 2 If he's got something he wants to say, he won't shy away from it.

Speaker 2 And then my friends, they're all golf lads. They're all my golf mates.
All we do is play golf. There's no way of getting into trouble on the golf course.

Speaker 1 I snapped.

Speaker 2 my seven iron the other day, which is kind of the extent of my bad behavior in life.

Speaker 1 I felt like breaking a club the other day and I was like, what's going on with me? It would feel so good

Speaker 1 right now.

Speaker 2 And the thing that was even worse is I pured it. I absolutely like, I played a little buttery cut.
Like I was like, I really need this to land soft.

Speaker 1 And I hit the car path and it just,

Speaker 2 over the back of my head, I was like, bow.

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Speaker 1 So, Tom, when you were in the impossible,

Speaker 1 how old were you in that?

Speaker 2 I think I was just turning 14.

Speaker 1 Did you understand like the weight or the gravity of being in like a big movie like that, or did you not even think about it?

Speaker 2 I actually think my

Speaker 2 youth was a real

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 2 it was great for me because I was so naive. I just looked at those experiences like as some sort of summer camp.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's only now that I'm a little bit older that I'm starting to really understand like the responsibility of being in a big film or a big show.

Speaker 2 Um, I had my TV show come out, right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes, right. And so, uh, what's the show? Uh tell us about the show.

Speaker 2 The show is

Speaker 2 an anthology series called The Crowded Room. It's sort of my first kind of Akiva Goldman, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Akiva. Yeah, Akiva Goldsmith.
He's a buddy of ours. What a great guy.
Love Aviva. Yeah, we like Akiva.

Speaker 2 Honestly, like, working with him was a dream come true.

Speaker 2 Like, it's my first real-time producing, and he really took me under his wing and kind of explained to me the do's and the don'ts of how to do it properly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's just the sweetest, smartest,

Speaker 1 most experienced guy. I just can't say enough about him.
He's so sweet.

Speaker 1 How old were you when you went from

Speaker 1 when you got Captain America Civil War? Because that was the first one, right? Where you played Spider-Man?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was like 10 days after my 18th birthday.

Speaker 1 Wait, so

Speaker 1 that was before you did Spider-Man was

Speaker 2 which was actually really great because it was somewhat like my audition for the general public.

Speaker 2 Like I got cast. There wasn't the greatest public feeling about me being cast.

Speaker 2 And then Civil War happened. and for me, it felt like my opportunity to showcase what I could do in the character without having to take the weight of a standalone film.

Speaker 1 So I had

Speaker 1 three scenes in that movie. Why do you say it wasn't recently?

Speaker 1 Like the heavy-duty fans were just.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I tried not to read into it that much.
It just, I guess I wasn't the top pick.

Speaker 2 I don't know how, but the list of the final six people got out, and I definitely was at the bottom of the list. So I think being cast was like a bit of a shock to the system.

Speaker 2 But then when Civil War came out and people were really happy with it and they really enjoyed my performance and thought it was really, you know, it was unique and different, there was a big turnaround.

Speaker 2 So I was lucky to have Civil War.

Speaker 1 I'll bet the great Amy Pascal came in with her great taste and said, you know what? No, Tom is our guy.

Speaker 2 I love Amy Pascal.

Speaker 1 She's my greatest.

Speaker 2 She's my mom, my mom away from home.

Speaker 1 What was the first experience like meeting all the other Avengers actors? Like, were you starstruck?

Speaker 1 What was that like coming in the first day at work?

Speaker 2 I just think it's that interesting thing where it's you just realize that everyone's actors wearing crazy costumes sitting on the same set chairs eating the same Atlanta food, you know, like there's no, it was obviously really amazing.

Speaker 2 And I was 18, a huge fan of those shows, so it was super exciting. I think Downey

Speaker 2 really does a good job of like setting the tone.

Speaker 1 Oh, he does a good job.

Speaker 2 Of like how people should behave. He's on time.
He's professional. He knows his lines.
He knows everyone's name. He's respectful.

Speaker 1 Would you agree agree with

Speaker 1 with me on this and the guys might too

Speaker 2 downey's the funniest motherfucker around yeah he's right i mean how fucking funny is downey i love he's the most frustrating scene partner out there i've never come across anyone like him you sit down you get sent the pages i write stuff i try and come up with something funny i'm trying to bring my flavor to you know sometimes pretty stale stuff yeah and you You spit out your joke on set.

Speaker 2 You think that's going to land. That's so good.
And he just uses your joke to set up his joke that's kind of fresh off the dome.

Speaker 1 And you're like, fuck, man, like, that's so irritating. I love that.
He is the best.

Speaker 1 Didn't he come in on like a helicopter or something? Or on the first? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he did. Yeah, it was six of us, six kids that were auditioning.
It's the weirdest kind of meeting I've ever had. Like, we're all sitting down, having lunch, and like eyeing each other up.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, I could probably take... you lot physically.

Speaker 1 I don't know like how we could go in an acting thing.

Speaker 2 And then, and then Downey, yeah, he flew over us in his helicopter he landed on the the helipad next door to the stage he drove over that's not helpful you're already nervous and then here comes your scene partner in a helicopter i know i'm such a hopeless optimist though like as soon as i saw the helicopter i was like i'm getting this part and i'm flying away with him after the audition

Speaker 2 like genuinely was like this is that's how the end the day is gonna go the audition went so well i thought it was great didn't hear anything for like seven weeks what

Speaker 2 and you know at that point you sort of go you let it go go i didn't get it yeah called me back for a second audition i did a screen test with chris evans which was like a a fight test and you know i have a gymnastics background so i was like i'm going above and beyond i'm doing every flip side flip back flip whatever i can do to get this part i went home heard nothing for like another four or five weeks and then i was scrolling through instagram and marvel had posted a picture of Spider-Man and said like if you want to find out who the next Spider-Man is go to our website.

Speaker 2 So, I went to their website.

Speaker 1 You're like, I want to know who the next Spider-Man is like, yeah.

Speaker 2 But the thing is, is I was like, it's obviously not me because they'd have more respect than just putting it online.

Speaker 1 They would call you.

Speaker 2 I went online, I read the headline, it said my name.

Speaker 2 I remember like shutting my computer and being like, this isn't, this can't be real. And this was also right around the time that Sony had been hacked.
So I was like, there's something going on here.

Speaker 2 This isn't right.

Speaker 2 And then an hour later, I got a call from the studio. I got a call from Sony.
I got a call from my agents. Like, this is, we don't know how this has been leaked, but we've cast you.
Good luck.

Speaker 1 Like, we're really excited. But it was on the Marvel website?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I think they just tried to get ahead of the leak and make the announcement. And

Speaker 2 then I've, in every interview, basically said, that's how I found out. So that didn't work out for them.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 Was your level of excitement must have been through the roof, obviously? But did you, was your, was your anticipation of what was to come accurate with what you you now have lived? Like,

Speaker 1 did you see exactly what was coming or has it been better or worse?

Speaker 2 It's been so much better.

Speaker 2 I could not have anticipated it being as fun as it was and how rewarding it's been.

Speaker 2 I think there's a stigma with those types of films.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I bet a lot of that's your fault. You know, you probably just...

Speaker 1 really enjoyed it. You've been a great leader.

Speaker 1 You've had fun with it and you've created a great environment for yourself and everybody else and that that yields a lot of uh good stuff afterwards right well thank you yeah i appreciate that yeah i think so and i read didn't i isn't it true that you were you've been a spider-man fan since you were a kid right oh mate like my mom has got countless costumes that have never been washed of when i was like a four-year-old kid refusing to take it off

Speaker 2 you know bouncing off of the bunk beds and stuff like that i was obsessed and there's actually an interview of me when i was maybe 15 on a red carpet and someone said like if you could play any superhero Who would you play?

Speaker 2 This is like seven years before it happened Or maybe not as long as that and I said I'd love to play Spider-Man after Andrew Garfield like that would be my dream and it fucking came true That's crazy craziest day of my life.

Speaker 1 I couldn't believe it and now you've gone on you've done some really cool dramatic stuff in addition to that as well that must be nice to kind of construct your your year or a few years by you know sort of weaving in stuff that is very different from it and and working with your your folks to get all that stuff squared away is that is that is that your your goal is to try to find a real balance with with all that stuff

Speaker 2 it's not necessarily something i particularly think about i just yeah man not everybody's a psycho

Speaker 2 thinking about braiding everything in you know what i mean i think the crowded room for me like yeah it's a challenge and it's different

Speaker 2 i think meeting a kiva you know you know what he's like he is an amazing guy i think the show has an amazing message that's really important and i just felt I don't know, I felt compelled to kind of jump into it and accept the challenge and see how it goes.

Speaker 1 I love it. And

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't really know what I'm going to do next.
I have taken the year off. I haven't worked at all this year.
I've just been at home, honestly, just playing golf every day.

Speaker 2 You deserve it.

Speaker 1 And now you have such a massive following.

Speaker 1 Just huge. I mean, it's, and do you feel,

Speaker 1 this sounds like a cheesy question, but I really mean it.

Speaker 1 Do you feel pressure or any kind of responsibility to be kind of like a role model not that you asked for that but it kind of just happened or do you just go that's not me I didn't ask for it and don't look at me as a role model I'm just an actor or do you embrace it I'll tell you something that really does stress me out is that I am so severely dyslexic that when I post on Instagram for something I have to get like three people to proofread what I've written.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 It really, really stresses me out because it goes out to a lot of people and you don't want to look like an idiot.

Speaker 1 Right. You know, like my post.

Speaker 2 But no, I I guess I understand the responsibility. I'm lucky that I have someone like Zendaya in my life.

Speaker 2 It's interesting being in a romantic relationship with someone that is in the same boat as you.

Speaker 2 You know, you can share your experiences and all that sort of stuff. And that's worth its weight in gold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. I wonder because now you've done so many big movies and massive like press junkets.
And I remember speaking of, we started the interview saying you were 27 years old. I was 27.

Speaker 1 And that's when I first was like, I have to do how many interviews and go where and what and it's like all of that um press and the hours of the press junkets and which is an art in and of itself by the way but what about the first time you saw the amount of press required of you was that what was that like and do you like doing because you're really good at it thanks i i yeah i just always try and like smile and wave and never let them know how you're really feeling.

Speaker 2 You know, like you're on your 60th interview of the day and someone comes in and they're like,

Speaker 2 what side of the bed do you sleep on? And it's like, what?

Speaker 1 Fuck off. Why do you want to know that? Leave me alone.
Yeah. So, I mean, it's a bit of a minefield, too, right? Because you do so much of it.

Speaker 1 And I'll bet you probably want to change your answer a little bit here and there just to keep yourself entertained.

Speaker 1 But then you might get into something that's a little bit spicier than you even mean to say. And then now they've got a headline.
And that's the thing they grab that.

Speaker 2 And that's the thing that happened to me the other day. So I gave up drinking of January of last year, right?

Speaker 1 And by the way, congrats on your sobriety and congrats on speaking so publicly about it. And it helps lots and lots of people.
So

Speaker 1 that's very great, bud. Thank you.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I gave up for a multitude of reasons, but really just because I wanted to take a break.

Speaker 2 And in taking that break, it was the hardest thing I'd ever done and was like, oh, maybe I should look at this a little bit more seriously and elongate the break.

Speaker 2 Eventually, I took it to my birthday, June 1st. And by the time I'd done six months, I felt so amazing that I was like, I don't think I'll ever drink ever again.
Wow.

Speaker 2 But I did an interview the other day for like an hour where I spoke about giving up drinking.

Speaker 2 And then about 45 minutes later, I told a joke about having a meltdown on set and wanting to cut my hair off because my hair was so crazy for this show.

Speaker 2 And the headline of the article was, Tom Holland gave up drinking after having a meltdown on set.

Speaker 1 And it's like, that's not even. I know.
It makes you just want to just stop. tricky.
I know, it's so dumb. Yeah,

Speaker 1 well, it's really tough.

Speaker 1 It's tricky, yeah. You got it, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta pick and choose.
Uh, well, don't ever cut your hair. You got good hair, yeah, you do.
Uh, thank you. I like this bullshit.
My opinion.

Speaker 2 My dad, the other day, Jason was saying, my dad said, he said, Jason Bateman, he's definitely got a syrup in he, and a syrup in England means a wig.

Speaker 2 Because a syrup and fig, wig.

Speaker 1 And I said, no, I don't think so, dad.

Speaker 2 I think that's just his hair. And my dad's obviously bitter because my dad best of losing his hair.

Speaker 1 and he was like that jason bateman he's definitely wearing a syrup i said no dad i genuinely think that's just his hair yeah no plus jason um uh never colors his hair which is astounding he doesn't have a gray hair on him yeah people think it's either it's plugs or it's color or both and it's it's just not just luck just oh you've got luck it's got to be it's got to be thinned out um tom holland we've taken up way too much time you're awesome it's so nice to meet you i've been such a fan for so long and um and and and it's like you emit exactly what you are exactly who I would hope you'd be, just like the coolest, grounded, nicest.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what we've heard. Keep it up, buddy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, you're killing it. I'm a huge fan of the show.

Speaker 2 My brother and I, we're always listening to you guys. So it's an honor for me to be here.
And we should play some golf. And Sean, you should come.

Speaker 1 Come on, Sean. You know what, though? Count me in for the poker.
I love poker.

Speaker 2 Okay, done. If you're in London, we have a poker game the first weekend of every month.
If you fancy it, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 I'm going to hit you up, Tom, when I come to England england and we're gonna play a hundred percent and we'll go watch people game yeah nice fantastic

Speaker 1 uh thank you tommy i get to now call you absolutely

Speaker 1 thank you buddy have a great rest of the day thanks pal i appreciate it thank you guys yeah buddy bye-bye

Speaker 1 how nice yeah what a great guy i said it at the end there he's so uh wonderful and i didn't know that about his drinking that's great good for him yeah yeah i wonder if that's tough with all the living in a and basically a frat house i i wonder if they're all not drinking too.

Speaker 1 That could be tough. I'm always kind of

Speaker 1 astounded, too, when somebody like him who's so young and got

Speaker 1 such big, massive things happen for him in his career when he's so young, they always carry themselves so confidently. And like,

Speaker 1 you know, not to repeat the Jason Bateman thing over and over again, but the sexy indifference, like that. They always have this like

Speaker 1 swagger that's like, yeah, I'm good if we do it. I'm good if we don't.
Right. Like like, and, and, and, it's, it's a confidence thing that I never had at that age.

Speaker 1 It's, I don't know how, and, and so many people, you have it, you had it too, Jay, when you were younger too.

Speaker 1 They all have this like thing where I don't know how they, how they learn that or where they get that from.

Speaker 1 Well, mine, mine was, I bought mine and should have been renting it because it, it, it went away for me.

Speaker 1 And it was a, it was, uh, it was a, uh, an uncomfortable uh correction when, uh, you know, I had some, some quiet times. Yeah.
Um, and and it was like, oh, I don't feel so confident anymore.

Speaker 1 I'm no longer indifferent. I actually, I really want it back.
And

Speaker 1 it hurt my ability to even get it back because now I'm walking into auditions desperate

Speaker 1 and really wanting something. And you start squeezing the puppy and that starts to choke out.

Speaker 1 I squeeze the puppy and sometimes it chokes out. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, gosh. Okay.
Tom Holland was so great. So great having him on.
Love that, Tom Holland.

Speaker 1 I don't mean this disrespectfully.

Speaker 1 He's a great kid.

Speaker 1 Great kid.

Speaker 1 Well, because he looks,

Speaker 1 he wouldn't take it. I think he knows that he's a good person.
I use that with people my age. He looks healthy.

Speaker 1 He looks like, you know, looks thin. You know, it might be he, maybe he should have a sandwich or maybe just order a nice big juicy ribbon.

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