"Rob Lowe"

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Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Most meek laugh you can do, Will.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Okay, Sean, meek laugh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't, you can't just blow your nose. We're recording.

Speaker 1 Talk about, wait, I didn't say do the most meek nose blowing you can do.

Speaker 1 You nailed it. Yeah, I sneezed right before I came.
But how about every time, every time you have like a slight cough or how about every time you sneeze in public? Now, anybody who anybody forgets.

Speaker 1 They look at you like, what's your problem? Why are you even out of the house? I'm like, well,

Speaker 1 they look at you like you're a war criminal. You're like, what? But I guess I'm guilty of that too.
I know. If somebody coughs more than once, right?

Speaker 1 If they cough twice, I'm I'm like, I give them, I try to get eye contact with them like, are you okay?

Speaker 1 Is this something I need to worry about?

Speaker 1 I still get surprised at the people who cough and don't, especially after everything we've been through, who still just cover your mouth. That's all I ask.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or just into the shirt.

Speaker 1 I used to think into the shirt was super gross, but you know what?

Speaker 1 It's a nice gesture. It'll leave a spot, but it's better than getting someone sick.
Well, it depends on the shirt, right? And the blood content in your cough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, what do you mean spot

Speaker 1 um i had a friend over last night that he was bleeding he was like congested and i'm like what why did you come over he's like i'm not sick i'm not sick yeah and look you woke up blowing your nose so well i just had a situation was it at least worth it sean you old war horse what was scotty without

Speaker 1 stupid what dumb

Speaker 1 we missed you all weekend uh i know did you go sunday yeah we went we went we went i didn't go sunday because granddad pulled his back he pulled his back

Speaker 1 everybody was calling into question whether everybody kept going, yeah, Jason pulled his back.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 it's not great. I was,

Speaker 1 I'm in ashamed to say it is a golf injury.

Speaker 1 I was simply leaning over to address the ball about to swing, not even swinging, and it just slid out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's painful. But then Dion Faneuf, our incredible friend,

Speaker 1 golfer,

Speaker 1 NHL star,

Speaker 1 gave me some some of his CBD cream. I use that.
Let's plug it right now. It's like Canny, right?

Speaker 1 Canny Ease or Canny something.

Speaker 1 That's right, because now you're plugged.

Speaker 1 Canny 1200. I think it's called Canny Golf.
Can I, Can I 1200?

Speaker 1 Can he not pull his back out over 50?

Speaker 1 I'm going to get the right word there, the right title, and we're going to.

Speaker 1 I mean, do you think the fact that you were just addressing the ball, obviously you're brittle and you have no nutrients in your your body. Do you think that that is of concern to you?

Speaker 1 Are you worried about snapping some of your limbs at any point? Because, I mean, you have,

Speaker 1 there's literally nothing holding you together anymore.

Speaker 1 It's not true. I wish I was as thin as you think I am.
We saw a guy at least.

Speaker 1 As thin as I should be for the lack of food on yourself. Sean, do you remember this? About a year ago, we were playing with Chuck Day and Mac Laney and those guys up there in the valley.

Speaker 1 And there's a guy

Speaker 1 on this other hole. I don't know, maybe 92, 93.
And he was just, God bless him, he's making his way around this guy, this old, old, old timer. And he shuffled up to the bomb and he was leaning over.

Speaker 1 And I just look over and I point, and Jason just goes, that's not me, motherfucker. I go, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 That's you. I would have thought that you

Speaker 1 now.

Speaker 1 Jason, you are so thin. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 I am so not. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I'm 70 pounds.
You're very thin.

Speaker 1 No, I just don't have any muscle mass because I'm not out there

Speaker 1 blasting backs and byes on Tuesdays and Thursdays, pushing weight, you fucking. Oh, you joined.
Why don't you? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Lifting weight. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Moving weight has, there's no science that says it's good for you as you get older. Oh, hang on a second.
Look it up. Yeah, you're right.
By the way, here's an update on the sweaters.

Speaker 1 I talked to Alex.

Speaker 1 We're moving on to sweaters.

Speaker 1 Well, remember we talked about my mom knitting sweaters for you guys. Oh, yeah.
And so I guess. Why don't you have to do with pushing weight?

Speaker 1 We're just talking about getting older because you'll hear why. And she says, okay, well, listen, I'm going to need, she texts me out of the blue as she does, just apropos of nothing.

Speaker 1 I'm going to need sizes and blah, blah, blah. And I'm going to guess that Sean is a little slighter, a little slimmer than Jason.
Oh, God, no. You know, she's just mixed up the names.
That's all.

Speaker 1 That's all. No, that's all.
It's just that, like, Sean looks slimmer.

Speaker 1 And you're right. I mean, you are.
And I will go on record saying you're very skinny and stuff, but you just, you're never going to lose that look. You have the look.

Speaker 1 You're so right. That's the problem.
I wasn't born with a beautifully angled face like you with great bone structure and strong superhero chin.

Speaker 1 I am, I am doughy, I am round, I am, I am, I'm, I came out puffy, okay?

Speaker 1 No, you didn't.

Speaker 1 You both have chiseled, good-looking faces. You don't.

Speaker 1 Damn, on-camera job. By the way, you want to talk about a chiseled good-looking face? Here we go.

Speaker 1 This is the segue of all segues. That's amazing.
Let me tell you something, guest. You better not look puffy after that intro.

Speaker 1 Check your lighting right now. Don't worry, he won't.
I've never seen him look puffy, and I've never seen him look bad. It's impossible for him.
And he is

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 and he's maintained it for so long, which is really admirable. On top of which, the really most admirable thing about him is that how well he's maintained a career that has spanned decades.

Speaker 1 For decades, this this guy has been at the top of the list. It is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 We knew when we were kids. I'm talking about Angular Facebook.
Again, again, we know him, so I can't. I got to be really careful because I just want to get a little bit of that before you guys start.

Speaker 1 Before you start guessing, you don't know Robert Pattinson, and he doesn't want to know you. Angular face.
I know, but he has no interest in seeing you.

Speaker 1 But this guy, Robert, even Robert Pattinson looks up to this guy. Willem Defoe.
This guy has done everything.

Speaker 1 He's done every

Speaker 1 top of the game in film and television he's done some of the most iconic films some of the most iconic television uh he's been nominated for two emmys six golden globes four sag awards uh which he's won two he's starred in so many 80s classics he was part of what was then known as here we go the brat pack

Speaker 1 he's been in stores about last night the

Speaker 1 west wing parks and recreation it's our friend

Speaker 1 mr robert Robert Lowe. Now that is a beautiful man.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. Are you on set right now? He's in a copy.
Listener, he's got a cop uniform on.

Speaker 2 It's a fireman's uniform. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's a fireman's uniform. He's a fireman.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 I told the whole crew.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I said, I got to go see my boys.
I got to go see.

Speaker 2 See my guys.

Speaker 1 This is so lovely.

Speaker 1 He's on the set of 911 Lone Star, which is the show that he stars in, and he produces in your fourth season. You're shooting your fifth season, maybe?

Speaker 2 We are almost done with season four.

Speaker 1 Almost done with season four. Season four.
Unbelievable. I see clips of that show, and I'm tired looking at it.
Like, I guess it looks like a 15-hour episode, you rude bastard. What?

Speaker 1 Try watching a full episode. Not the clips.

Speaker 2 Wait, watch the episodes. Don't watch the clips.
The clips are going to be a little bit more.

Speaker 1 No, no, like the promos. I mean, the promos.
And I look, and I see your face, and I'm like, God, Rob just finished a 15-hour day on that episode. Like, it's just looks so like.

Speaker 1 Do you sleep in olive oil, Rob? Is there a, is there a mattress that's got a zip-in olive oil pouch that you sleep in? I know, look at the best skin in the world.

Speaker 2 I'm an Olympic sleeper. I think we've talked about it.
I get a lot of sleep.

Speaker 2 I have shame around how much I sleep

Speaker 2 because it makes me feel like...

Speaker 1 Do you still sleep like you're a teenager? Yes. How many hours are you?

Speaker 1 What time are you in the rack every night, Rob?

Speaker 2 Well, today

Speaker 2 I had to be in the car at 5.15 in the morning.

Speaker 2 Now, but as you know, know, I live in Santa Barbara, and I'm lucky enough to be driven, so I can sleep in the car. So I get an extra hour and a half in the car, but

Speaker 2 I was in bed at 9:30 last night.

Speaker 1 And then you're up at, so what time are you getting up for a 5.15, get in the car? 5.14. Truly.

Speaker 2 5.14.

Speaker 1 Because I don't really want to. Now

Speaker 1 you're going to get my typical morning questions now, and I'm going to try to keep this clean.

Speaker 1 Well, but hang on now. Why are you leaving the house without a shower or without emptying yourself? You're doing that in your trailer?

Speaker 1 All of that?

Speaker 2 I don't do the morning shower.

Speaker 2 I do the nighttime shower.

Speaker 1 Nice. Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 I do the nighttime shower.

Speaker 1 So then what do you do about your bedhead then? You let the people in the makeup hair trailer do all that?

Speaker 2 That's what the professionals are for.

Speaker 1 Hold it, Sean.

Speaker 1 You could save yourself an hour if you don't do makeup and you do your own hair before you leave the house.

Speaker 2 How does it save me an hour? That costs me an hour.

Speaker 2 That means I have to wake up earlier.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. God, that's great math.

Speaker 1 Isn't it nice to take a shower at night? Yeah. It makes you feel like a kid.
I sometimes take a shower, put my pajamas on, watch TV, and then you go straight to bed.

Speaker 1 You brush your teeth, you go to bed. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Now, I look forward to going to sleep. I'm like, I'm going to do that.
I do.

Speaker 1 I do love that.

Speaker 1 Now, Rob, you know, you're an incredibly talented actor. You can't get this far without being a really good actor.
Did it ever bother you that, like...

Speaker 1 It seems like the only people that get real good accolades as an actor are those that look like character actors. You don't.
You look like a leading man.

Speaker 1 Was it ever frustrating to you that you didn't get the character roles because you were born with leading man looks?

Speaker 2 Well, first of all, thank you for saying that. And I do feel like I'm a character actor trapped in a leading man's body.

Speaker 1 Well, look at Austin Powers. You were hysterical in Austin Powers.
Well, thank you. It's a long list.

Speaker 2 And when I get to,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 Johnny Depps made a career of not, you know, he's so handsome, but he always wears prosthetics and stuff. And so he gets to do these insane characters.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 every time I've been able to do that, I've found it very freeing.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 1 let's talk about that because your trajectory is been,

Speaker 1 it's so hard. I mean, everybody's got their own sort of path that they have, but yours has gone through so many different areas.
And I was, a lot of people have peaks and valleys.

Speaker 1 You haven't even had any valleys. It's been sort of like from peak to peak.
And you've just kind of jumped.

Speaker 1 You started in, and I mentioned sort of the Brad Pack, but you started in, was The Outsiders your first big film?

Speaker 2 Was my first movie, period. I mean, I okay, so

Speaker 1 talk about that. Talk about that process, how you got it, and how it came about and what it was like.
I mean, Jesus.

Speaker 2 I wish you guys had been, you know, in that mix. You would have, it was, it was an incredible thing.
And all of us who went through it are like bonded, like, band of brothers because

Speaker 2 Coppola put us through such an arduous, insane, and I think actually illegal screen actors guild-wise

Speaker 1 type of boot camp.

Speaker 2 Um, Really? It went on for months, months and months and months, mixing and matching. And you'd go into this soundstage and there'd be like Mickey Rourke

Speaker 2 with roller skates on, stinking like an animal, and

Speaker 2 being treated like he was the Marlon Brando reincarnated. And then you'd have Scott Bayo

Speaker 2 coming in in a limousine and telling Francis he had to get back to his show.

Speaker 1 And Francis going, what show?

Speaker 1 And he goes, happy days.

Speaker 2 And Francis going, what's that? Oh, my god and then you'd have like ricky schroeder and uh

Speaker 1 you know dennis quaid and i mean just anybody and everybody

Speaker 2 so he was doing like mixing and matching or were these like kind of forced bonding kind of uh chemistry reads the the forced bonding came later the but these were mix and matches with everybody present So you showed up, everybody showed up at eight o'clock in the morning and you left at, you know, seven o'clock at night and you just sat on the floor and he would go, okay, I want to see Dennis Quaid with

Speaker 2 Henry Thomas and Ricky Schroeder and, you know, whatever.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's wild. Wow.
What was the name of your character again? It wasn't Soda Pop. Soda Pop.
Soda Pop. Yes.

Speaker 2 Soda Pop. You know what's really cool about the Outsiders is

Speaker 2 every, you know, it's part of the seventh grade curriculum of almost every school in the country. So every year there's a new group of seventh graders who get introduced to

Speaker 2 not only to the outsiders, but the, you know, like, Soda Pop Curtis, yay. So that's super cool.

Speaker 1 And look at you now from Soda Pop to Cop. I literally just had a guy send me a text this morning and he said,

Speaker 1 stay gold, pony boy.

Speaker 1 He literally said that on a text this morning from Harry Chung, Will. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
I like Harry. I was about to lay into whoever did it, but I like Harry a lot.
He's a friend. Harry's a good man.

Speaker 1 He's a good man.

Speaker 1 I remember when you were in contact. I remember when you were in contact, and it was like, I guess one of my favorite movies of all time.
Yeah, I love it. And I was like, and you showed up on screen.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, that's Rob Lowe. I was like, I don't know, 22 years old when it came out of swing.
And I was like, wait, Rob Lowe is in this movie. That's so crazy and amazing.
Like,

Speaker 1 to Will's point, you would take no peak,

Speaker 1 just all peaks, right? No valleys.

Speaker 1 And you would appear, even if it was the smallest role or a leading role or whatever, there were always seems, at least the perception was that they were all super high-quality movies and TV shows.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 1 And by the way, sometimes with Sean, Rob, as you'll, as you know, sometimes it's like having it, like a kid come in because he just goes, I remember when you were in contact and you're like, okay, man,

Speaker 1 we're not just fucking doing free form, just whatever pops into our fucking head. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 I remember one time I saw you on a fucking what, man?

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 Remember, she had a billboard once. Nominated for a nominated of the three of us.
he was nominated for the host of the singled out. But Rob, but Rob, you

Speaker 1 singled out. Pulls out of the trifecta.

Speaker 2 No, is this true? This is amazing.

Speaker 1 It's true. 100% true.

Speaker 1 The best host of a podcast. Well, there's three of us.
No, just Sean.

Speaker 1 Sean.

Speaker 2 That is the greatest thing I've ever heard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He didn't win. Okay.
That's the greatest thing I've ever heard. Why?

Speaker 1 Missed it. Because they finally went and listened to it, and then they were like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 not him uh you know because yeah you know but but but rob so you do like the outsiders and it is true what sean says and what we were saying which is like you do all these things that are amazing that have that each one of them have a place in you know culturally a place in our everybody's lives whether whether it's it's um the outsiders and then san elmo's fire uh which i just saw i just watched it for the first time ever are you serious swear to god never saw it i watched it like he's saying are you serious that you're just interrupting and going slurs?

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 So, so you do the outsiders. What was film number two? After the outsiders, which was a big sensation, and everybody, we all saw it.
What was the next thing? What was the move when that came out?

Speaker 1 Was it like you had everything offered to you?

Speaker 1 All of us, all of us got a lot of a lot of offers.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think

Speaker 2 Tom

Speaker 2 did the best with it because he followed it up with Risky Business. And that was, you know, the beginning for him.
I did a movie called Class with Andrew McCarthy and Jacqueline Bassett.

Speaker 1 Yes, you do. Oh,

Speaker 1 I know it well. Good for you, Rob.
All right. Yeah, great for you.
Good for you. Okay.
Class act. I don't know what was going on there.

Speaker 2 Okay. Go ahead.
You know, no, no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You don't have to admit anything on this podcast. You just keep going with your answer.
I thought. Dude, I have something I want to say about contact after Will gets there.
Holy fuck.

Speaker 2 I love that he's obsessed with contact. I had two lines in it, but it's

Speaker 1 I'm obsessed with you in it, too. Clearly, obsessed, Will.
I used it, obsessed, and it's his favorite movie of all time. Go figure.
Hey, listen, Rob. So you do

Speaker 1 next to Star Trek. Sometimes it's like you just gotta breathe.
They're right. You just do have to breathe.
Finish your juice box, Sean.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 so, Rob, so you do, you do class with uh, with Andy McCarthy, Jacqueline Bassett, yep, and Jaclyn Bassett. And then what was after?

Speaker 2 Then it's Sean's favorite actor, Jodi Foster.

Speaker 1 Yes. Can I say something about that? Hotel New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 And Hotel New Hampshire was going to be, that was the one everybody, all the young actors wanted to do because they thought it was going to be Oscar-type movie. Because in those days,

Speaker 2 however you want to call the Bratbach movies, teen movies, John Hughes movies, whatever you want to call them,

Speaker 2 they were like the guilty pleasure of the movie business.

Speaker 1 Like today, they'd be straight movies.

Speaker 2 There'd be no guilt associated with them at all. In fact, they'd be the tentpole.
But in those days, it was like terms of endearments, the real movie this year, okay? And, oh, you're doing

Speaker 2 that trifle over here? Like, that's the way it was.

Speaker 2 That's what it was.

Speaker 2 It was very segregated in that way. But Hotel New Hampshire felt like a real movie.

Speaker 2 Of course, then it came out the same weekend as Splash, and that was the end of it.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wasn't that a John Irving book? It's a John Irving book.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And it did, I remember when that came out. God, what was that? Like

Speaker 1 there he goes. 85?

Speaker 2 84, 83? 83.

Speaker 1 Late 83.

Speaker 1 So, so I know I messed up on that one. I'm usually confusing.

Speaker 1 I was like, I've been just inside the same decade, which is incredible.

Speaker 1 But you did, I know that you're sort of, you're saying that these are the films that were the trivia, but these were the films that people were going to see, that all of us were going to see.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean,

Speaker 1 I wasn't, I wasn't a huge student of the cinema yet.

Speaker 1 And those are the movies I wanted to go see. I wanted to go see you guys in those.
I wanted to go see Youngblood, by the way, as a Canadian. Hey, huh? Dude, Rob, let's talk about Youngblood first.

Speaker 2 Youngblood.

Speaker 1 Sean, quick five for us?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead. Rob, talk about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, go ahead. Youngblood is,

Speaker 2 I think it might be the second best hockey movie.

Speaker 1 At first is Slapshot. Let's face it.

Speaker 2 Slapshot is one of the greatest movies ever made.

Speaker 1 Mighty Dex, Mighty Decks, Mighty Decks.

Speaker 2 No, I'm thrown down. I'm sorry.
I'm not having it.

Speaker 2 I'm just not having it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. At all.
I'm with Rob. I'm with Rob.

Speaker 2 No, yeah, Youngblood is fun because whenever I get to go to a hockey game, people are super excited because there aren't that many hockey movies.

Speaker 1 There aren't that many. If you're a hockey fan, there aren't all that many, really.
No, dude. And we loved, as a Canadian, we loved Youngblood.
And

Speaker 1 I would say this, Slapshot, maybe because it came before and Paul Newman, et cetera, but they're kind of different. They fall into different categories within hockey.

Speaker 1 So it's in terms of like a pure hockey movie that's not a comedy. That's right.
Youngblood is the best in that regard. So they're very different.

Speaker 1 It's pure hockey, particularly if you're a young hockey player.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 everybody who's played hockey has worn that movie out because it's about coming up into the league.

Speaker 1 Now, were you a good skater?

Speaker 1 Were you playing hockey at that time?

Speaker 2 No. I was horrible.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I could Rockefeller Center

Speaker 2 date, hold hands, skate.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 And so I had, it was the first time I ever had a trainer or I had to work out.

Speaker 2 And we, and I, Swayze was my co-star, Patrick Swayze, and we, we trained every day for, I went to almost eight weeks, six hours a day.

Speaker 1 Brutal, brutal, brutal training.

Speaker 2 And I got to be pretty good on skates at that point.

Speaker 1 Wow. And Keanu.
And Keanu was in it too. No, what? As the goalie goalie.
He was the goalie.

Speaker 2 I thought he was an actual French-Canadian goalie.

Speaker 1 He was, right? We had him on the podcast. He just had him on the podcast.
He said that he was a goalie. He was a goalie.
Yeah. Yeah.
There you go. Someone listens.

Speaker 1 Do you remember interacting with Keanu back then and thinking like, oh, this kid's going to do something? Like, do you have anything like that?

Speaker 2 Will, I'm telling you, and this is no slight to Keanu Reeves, who I adore, I thought he was a French-Canadian goalie.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wow.

Speaker 1 I thought,

Speaker 2 I mean, which probably tells you all you need to know, because I thought he was the real thing.

Speaker 1 That's how good he is.

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Speaker 1 Well, on the same sort of question on outsiders,

Speaker 1 was it clear to you

Speaker 1 or or if you had to bet on one of those horses to have the kind of longevity that you ended up having in your career, who did you think was going to be? Pony Boy would be the horse I'd bet on.

Speaker 1 Pony Boy's the horse I'd bet on.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 again, and it's funny because Tom has obviously become

Speaker 2 a legendary, legendary actor, and I'm not sure you would have

Speaker 2 back in the day, but he had such drive, such,

Speaker 2 he had an intensity that none of us have.

Speaker 1 And then Taps, I think, put him over the top, right? Or was over the top?

Speaker 2 Taps was right before.

Speaker 1 Taps was

Speaker 2 that made him, yeah.

Speaker 1 And he was so good in that movie.

Speaker 2 I've got it. Taps was my first Hollywood, big Hollywood premiere.

Speaker 1 That was, I remember that movie really knocking me out. Yeah.
Wait, can we go like go back

Speaker 1 to contact? Sure. And so our contact.

Speaker 1 No, I want.

Speaker 1 No, I want it. But like.
You didn't say, were you scared?

Speaker 2 Did you think the ads were really coming out?

Speaker 1 He's all hopped up on apple juice now. Go let him go.

Speaker 1 Do it.

Speaker 1 Well, no. Well, since you brought it up, the content, but I want to know, I want to go back

Speaker 1 before the outsiders. But I just want to get this out about contact.
My favorite line in the movie.

Speaker 1 You are the worst.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Only person I know gets drunk on apple juice. Just swerving all over the podcast.

Speaker 1 I am dying. I can't.
Pull over and take a nap. I can't believe you're torturing Rob like this.
I wanted to get out my favorite line in contact, which was Jodi Foster and Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 1 William McConaughey was in it? Yeah, Jodi Foster and Matthew McConaughey. And I think it's like the second time they kiss in the movie.

Speaker 1 And Jodi pulls away and she's, and her first line, and I'm making this up, is I'm so confused.

Speaker 1 And that's your favorite.

Speaker 1 There goes your nomination for this year. So, no, Jodi Foster's a friend, and she would laugh at that.
So, fuck me. I want to go back.

Speaker 2 You are literally crying.

Speaker 1 Will is literally crying too much of laughter.

Speaker 1 Rob, you've got your own podcast. You could say, you see, it's not easy, right? It's not easy at all.
You got to deal with

Speaker 1 anyway. This is why I do mine alone.
exactly if you deal with the nonsense thank you no i love you

Speaker 1 i love you too so much um so robbie before the outsiders we kind of just skipped over like i don't know anything about your like past or you like how did you get that like wasn't that such a huge deal to what were you doing before that like theater or anything

Speaker 2 i I was doing theater when I lived in Ohio. My family lived there.
I was eight years old and I went and saw a local school production and fell in love with the kid.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, like I was like, I want to do that.

Speaker 1 And my parents are like, yeah, sure, whatever. So you had a love for it when you were super young.

Speaker 2 Super young. It's all I ever wanted.
Knew exactly what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 Wow. Isn't that wild? Wow.
But you couldn't pursue it in Ohio, right? Was there a move out to Los Angeles that triggered like, okay, I actually want to do this now?

Speaker 2 Well, my thing was I'm going to do, I did every sort of university.

Speaker 2 There was

Speaker 2 a traveling, oh God, this thing called the Kenley Players. You got to look this up, guys.
It's the best. We should make a movie about this.

Speaker 2 It would be summer, professional summer. It's like waiting for Guffman, but real.
John Kenley was

Speaker 2 a musical theater producer, lived as a woman in Florida

Speaker 2 during part of the year, and then was John Kenley in the Midwest. And of course, the Midwestern people were never the wiser.

Speaker 2 And he would get whoever's the hottest TV star and put them in Camelot or something like that. And then they would tour Dayton, Cincinnati, Akron, Columbus, Flint, Michigan.

Speaker 2 And you'd like Henry Winkler would come and just crush for four weeks in the summer. And you'd see like Vic Taback in Man of La Mansa.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And it was, it was the most delicious. Sandy Duncan is Peter Pan.

Speaker 1 Of course. Yes.

Speaker 1 Jason's old co-star. Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah. Wait, so, so, Rob, but that's a good point.
So you do it. So you're doing this thing, this, this touring theater thing, which does sound amazing.

Speaker 2 And then what?

Speaker 2 What do I tell you my Paul Lynn stories?

Speaker 1 Whoa, fucking. Let's go.
Yeah. Look at you, you little jiblet.

Speaker 2 That actually sounded more like Charles Nelson Riley.

Speaker 1 No, a mix of the two.

Speaker 2 This is definitely a mix of the two.

Speaker 1 One of my favorite Paul Lynn lines on Hollywood Squares was

Speaker 1 the host said, okay, for the center square, for the ex, Paul,

Speaker 1 when a man falls over a boat, you yell man overboard. What do you you yell when a woman falls over a boat? And he goes, false spade ahead.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, how did you, where did you encounter Paul Lind, first of all, Rob? Oh,

Speaker 2 the Kenley Players.

Speaker 1 Not on Hollywood Squares. Did you ever do Hollywood Squares?

Speaker 2 No, I did the $10,000. This is how long it was, how long ago it was.
The $10,000 pyramid.

Speaker 1 Oh, before it was $25 or 100.

Speaker 2 Yes, with Dick Clark. And that was a, that was my first trip to New York, publicity trip.
And I played against Tony Danza, and I eviscerated him.

Speaker 1 I once took Tony Danza deep at the Hollywood Stars night at Dodge. No way.
Yeah, he threw a little cookie over the plate, and I took it out to right center field. I love that.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Past the sprinting Lou Ferrigno

Speaker 1 inside the park home run.

Speaker 1 You went around the bases on a gurney or what? You probably pulled something.

Speaker 1 At that time,

Speaker 1 I was pretty limber.

Speaker 1 Oh God.

Speaker 2 I love those old, the old-time Dodger Hollywood stars. The first one I played in, it was such a huge thrill.
It was 1979, and I stepped up to the play.

Speaker 1 They went, now about him, Rob Lode.

Speaker 1 No way. No way.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it was amazing.

Speaker 2 And I think I might have got a fielder's choice to first base or whatever. And I was like super, because in those days it was super competitive, actually.

Speaker 2 And then at a certain point, it devolved into hijinks. And then you'd get Kareem Abdul-Jabbar pitching to Billy Bardie.

Speaker 1 Right. With a huge, with, with a large

Speaker 1 bat. That's right.
Right. Yes.

Speaker 2 And that's what happened. And then it all, but it was, that was my moment at the Hollywood.

Speaker 1 I talk to Kimmel about this sometimes. Like, we should approach them

Speaker 1 and ask them if they, if, if they would be interested in, in us just sort of just like, let's make this thing overhand overhand again, you know, fast pitch, baseball, because like now I think it's like softball.

Speaker 1 They bring in a fence and we should get it back to. Listen, I'm going to make that picture.

Speaker 1 Jason's like, how can we suck the fun back out of it? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Do you ever hear, Rob, do you ever hear about the golf trip we went on last year and Jason on our way there? There were like eight of us and Jason's like, okay, here's the deal.

Speaker 1 Everybody has to putt everything out. We're going to keep score.
It's going to be and everybody. I'm not going to get score over four days.
And everybody's like, hey, man,

Speaker 1 fucking relax. We haven't even started the trip trip yet.
And he's already one of takes the fun out.

Speaker 1 Wait, so Rob, okay, we're jumping all over the place. But what I do want to know is, when was the move?

Speaker 1 Because you did all these really successful, great movies, like I pointed out before, Samuel's Fire, about last night, whatever it was, class, one of my favorites, Masquerade, which I loved as well.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I like that.
I thought that was a very underappreciated movie.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, you start, you made like this switch and you're like, well, I'm going to do comedies.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, you became a guy who was like in every comedy in the 90s. Uh, you were in them, and it was a big, was that like a

Speaker 1 did you make a conscious decision? Like, yeah, fuck it, I'm done with this, I'm now gonna do that. How did that happen?

Speaker 2 Well, I'd loved, always loved comedy, and it was my first love, and was obsessed with SNL. I did for my sixth-grade talent show, I did Ackroyd's Basomatic sketch.

Speaker 1 I loved,

Speaker 1 loved.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That's that thing where he sells the Basomatic and he talks really fast.

Speaker 2 How many times has this happened to you? You have a bass.

Speaker 1 It wiggles off the hook. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so I hosted SNL and had a really good show and hit it off with Lauren. And I think Lauren saw something in me that nobody had really seen before that I could really be funny.
And then

Speaker 2 when they made Wayne's World into a movie,

Speaker 2 I had also connected with Mike on the show.

Speaker 2 And we sort of just got each other. And so

Speaker 2 when they were making Wayne's World, they were looking for somebody who had been in a movie.

Speaker 1 I mean, Mike and Dana, literally. It was just that simple.

Speaker 1 I think Rob's been in a movie. Sean, tell Tracy who he's talking about really quickly.
Oh, what, Mike Myers and dana carvey there we go thank you yeah mike myers and dana carve

Speaker 1 okay um you have to use them sparingly rob you know you give them easy ones like that and then you move forward i know i got so nervous no no sean so so you do so yeah of course of course it's it's wayne's world and that makes sense that you get brought in as not only had you been in a movie you've been in a lot of big movies and you're a movie star so for them it's a great get

Speaker 1 and lauren's like so you're gonna mike's gonna going to write it, and you're doing it, Rob, and you start tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And you've already said yes, and here's your wardrobe, and you've said yes, and let's go into action.

Speaker 2 I just, by the way, Will, I just walked with him last week.

Speaker 2 I hadn't had a good Lauren Michaels walk through Beverly Hills in a long time, and there were so many great quotes. I really, really, really, and we have to do a coffee table book.

Speaker 1 We have all, we have to of Lauren quotes.

Speaker 1 They're the best.

Speaker 1 One of my favorite, and I love Lauren.

Speaker 1 I haven't done the walk with him in a few years now, any of the walks. I've done the beach walk.
I've done, obviously, the Beverly Hills Flats walk many times. Wait, this is a known thing? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That he walks with people? Yeah. Yes.
Like John Sykes said to me the other day, I just did a walk with Lauren, and then I saw him with Gold. I see him Goldwyn every time he's in town, John Goldwyn.

Speaker 1 But I said,

Speaker 1 He one time said, we were talking about the South and he just goes, it's a Mason-Dixon line thing. And I was like,

Speaker 1 which I fucking loved. But Rob, what you did with that, with that comedy turn, though, that I sort of felt was it was just, I just thought it was really admirable that you were doing this.

Speaker 1 It's, if I remember correctly, at a time when people really were still kind of taking themselves pretty seriously and you were not.

Speaker 1 And you were assigned a lane, too. Yeah.
And you said, yeah, you know what? I'm not going to bust out of that lane for a lane of I am a character actor and I'm doing Shakespeare.

Speaker 1 Now you actually went the opposite direction. You said, I'm actually going to kind of make fun of myself a little bit here and

Speaker 1 just pull my pants down a little bit, you know, and kind of not be quite as

Speaker 1 gorgeous. You know, it was pretty cool.
Yeah, really cool. Well, thanks.
I mean, I love it.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I still love,

Speaker 2 you know, you guys know there's nothing.

Speaker 2 Look, I'm talking to a bunch of guys who get to do,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 get to play in both pools and to do,

Speaker 2 you know, like to do be doing Lone Star Now

Speaker 2 and then the show, which is now on Netflix, Unstable with my son, Hard Comedy.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you do that.

Speaker 2 Like, that's the fun of it because they're so different. But, but when I first got into, when I first got into comedy, when I first got into humor,

Speaker 2 you know, when I first,

Speaker 2 it was, no one else was in that lane for sure. No one

Speaker 1 knew.

Speaker 2 They weren't. And also SNL was a thing where like

Speaker 2 people,

Speaker 2 like now, everybody wants to do it, does it, doesn't think about it. But in those days, like, oh, you better be careful.

Speaker 1 Ooh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Like, there was all of that shit going on.

Speaker 1 It's like, be careful of what? Right. Yeah.
But you do, you do Wayne's World, you do Tommy Boy, you do

Speaker 1 Austin Powers, and then you jump back and you start doing things like

Speaker 1 you do a bunch of serious dramas. You, you did Brothers and Sisters.

Speaker 1 West Wing.

Speaker 1 Well, I was going to say West Wing,

Speaker 1 sorry, West Wing First. I was getting to West Wing, but West Wing First, which was a phenomenal show.

Speaker 1 Then Brothers and Sisters with Robbie Bates.

Speaker 1 Then you go and you make the jump, and then you start doing. I remember the day that Amy's like, I think Rob Lowe's going to do Parson Rec.
And I was like, what? That's amazing.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, like, you're on a serious drama. And then the next year, you're on a sitcom and

Speaker 1 you're on a full-fledged comedy. Yeah, you're an agent's dream.
Yeah. Very few people get that kind of

Speaker 1 leeway and can pull it off. And nobody, and there's no part of you that's like, oh, he can't do that.
You're like, yeah, well, yeah, it's Rob Law. Yeah, Rob can do it.
Like, that's fucking rad, dude.

Speaker 1 I mean, you kind of.

Speaker 1 So, for as much as you feel like you're like a leading, you know, a character actor trapped inside a leading man's body, you did what you wanted to do anyway, which I think is super fucking rad.

Speaker 1 Still are doing it. And they're still doing it.
Yeah. It's pretty rad.
Thanks. And then now you're doing your show with Johnny, who's a great kid, whom I know a little bit.
Yeah, you're signed Johnny.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. That's so cool.
I remember you telling me. talk about this, dude.

Speaker 2 It's, it's so, it's, I mean, to be able to work with, with my son, I mean, it all started with

Speaker 2 him sort of trolling me on

Speaker 2 social media, like just brutalizing me.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 2 mercilessly,

Speaker 2 just for nothing other than to just do it. And it, people started to notice.

Speaker 2 And it got to the point that if I was out doing an interview to promote something, whether it was, you know, the Today Show or Ellen Show, it didn't matter what the venue was.

Speaker 2 All they really wanted to talk about was, your son just loves to make fun of you. We have some of his greatest hits here.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 So it got to the point where

Speaker 2 we both were like, people really like this. I wonder,

Speaker 1 is there some there there?

Speaker 2 Because I mean, literally the audience is saying,

Speaker 1 We want this. We want more of this.

Speaker 2 So we tried to figure out what it would be. And we're like, well, we're not going to do a reality show.

Speaker 2 And I don't want to do that thing of playing a heightened version of me because Larry David did it so well, it feels kind of done. So what is it? So

Speaker 2 we've distilled it down to really what it is: like a larger-than-life, benevolent narcissist dad who may or may not be as in touch with the real world as he would like to think.

Speaker 2 And the world just applauds him. And the son who's just like, oh my God, really?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so we built this show called Unstable. And I play a, you know, like an almost like an Elon Musk

Speaker 2 tech genius who's unstable on his best days and maybe insane in his others. And John Owen is the son who can, is the only one who can speak truth to power.

Speaker 2 It's super fun.

Speaker 1 It's called Unstable, by the way.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yes.
It's on Netflix now.

Speaker 1 It's on Netflix because it's streaming. Click it.

Speaker 1 uh wow go ahead sean oh no i was just gonna say that i i i know tommy boy so well and you're i'm just i'm such a fan of you in it uh everything but i i just love that movie i think that movie is so beloved by so many people are you guys amazing by the way when when sorry when when so when two people start talking at the same time and then somebody goes no no you go ahead i can't help but say

Speaker 1 oh no i was just gonna say like i can't stop myself from saying it and i tell myself not to say it but that's okay but but but you too like you just said it. It's it's impossible not to say.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I was just going to say,

Speaker 1 right? Yeah, it's like you have to say it as an acknowledgement. But it's like, it's like yawning when someone else yawns next to you.
You can't help it. Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I was just going to say, Tommy Boy

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 2 a movie where like Wayne's World we thought might do well and Austin Powers had that thing. Tommy Boy, no one ever expected that movie ever to do.

Speaker 2 And that started with playing tennis, was playing tennis with Lauren. I'll never forget it.
Lauren, Bernie Brillstein, myself, John Goldwyn, playing doubles. Perfect.
And Lauren saying,

Speaker 2 you know, I think there's something with you and Farley playing brothers.

Speaker 2 Really? And I was like, wow, that'd be great. And I never heard another thing about it.
And then, you know, whatever, six months later, Tommy Boy morphs into

Speaker 2 what it is. But I don't think anybody thought.
and that's the one that I do think has,

Speaker 2 you know, who did I just talk to?

Speaker 1 Oh, Jonah Hill.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Jonah Hill, and I'm not kidding, will tell you that his favorite movie in the world is Tommy Boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd be pretty close to Tommy. Over the Goodfellas, Over the God.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you, Tommy Boy. It's insane.

Speaker 1 No, it's one of the greatest comedies of all time. I mean, it's right up there with all of the classics.

Speaker 1 Did Chris make you laugh as much offset as uh as on camera because he did and when you were doing your meek laugh i thought you were doing farley

Speaker 1 that do your meek laugh jason because it literally is who it

Speaker 1 that's that's farley's laugh

Speaker 1 he killed me i mean chris farley and will farrell is just there's no one funnier than those two guys to me no one

Speaker 1 ever

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Speaker 1 All right, back to the show.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you do Tommy Boy, you do all this. So then you do, talk about Westwing because West Wing was such a,

Speaker 1 I mean, that show just still, you can watch it, you can turn it on today, and it just completely holds up.

Speaker 1 Isn't it kind of making a resurgence? Like, I hear people talking about that. They now watch it a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because politics is such a big part of society now, more so than then, I think. Right.

Speaker 2 It's interesting about Westwing is it kind of comes and goes.

Speaker 2 People liked it when it was on. And then in the early years of Netflix, the early years, I think it was

Speaker 2 that and friends drove

Speaker 1 Netflix.

Speaker 2 Yep. And then it.
went off the platform.

Speaker 2 And now something's going on that they're into it again. I don't know what it is, but I'm hearing a lot about it again, too.

Speaker 1 I don't know. So, Rob, like us, you've been doing the podcast, you've been in the podcast space.
I like calling it the space

Speaker 1 for a time. It does sound good.
It does good, right? We're in the podcast space.

Speaker 1 It's better than content. You should hear me go off about Rob.
I hate when people go, I'm a content creator. So, you just make fucking shit or storyteller.
If you're a storyteller or a content

Speaker 1 provider,

Speaker 1 how have you liked doing the podcasts literally with Rob Lowe?

Speaker 2 I love it. I have so much fun.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 you guys are just riffing, you're having a good time, you're saying what's on your mind. And

Speaker 2 sometimes the most trivial stuff is the most fun to talk about. And then you get guests on.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 a lot of them I have known forever and ever and ever and know them in a very specific way that no one else is ever going to know them in the way that I do.

Speaker 2 So I'm able to bring out sides of them

Speaker 2 that no one else is going to be able to do because they don't have the history that I have with them. And,

Speaker 2 you know, I had Whoopi Goldberg on recently and I was like, Whoopi, do you remember when we were on the California Toxic Clean Water Caravan with Michael J. Fox, Jane Fonda, Cher.

Speaker 1 Just picking up trash down at Santa Monica Pierre?

Speaker 2 And we went through the... and we went through the McDonald's drive-through.
Do you remember, like,

Speaker 2 where are you going to, where else are you going to get that?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 So it's super fun.

Speaker 1 Bob has got so many unbelievable,

Speaker 1 you're kind of like, and we always, we always hammer Jason, and Kimmel loves hammering Jason for stories about, you know, back when he was a teen actor and stuff.

Speaker 1 You guys have such a long history in this town of doing stuff like that, weird ass shit, where you're like, yeah, I went on a 10-hour overnight train journey with LaVara Burton.

Speaker 1 We were going to Vienna on our way to Vienna to see the scene. Like, what the fuck? I know.
And that Jason went to school with Janet Jackson is so crazy.

Speaker 1 crazy jason was on the massage bus with janet jackson which is like crazy that's a whole other thing

Speaker 2 i once saw rob on a boat in the south of france and he comes out and he goes we were just uh we just got washed out right you got washed out by a flooded river or some shit remember that yeah i survived a flash flood in france it was like a legit like real flash flood got saved i would be rescued by the police oh by the way jason we so i did jimmy's show and there's a game that's named after you that they're now renaming after me i just want you to know.

Speaker 2 The game.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 So it's the game where you put the names in the hat.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 And then you pull the hat out.

Speaker 2 And then you have to tell a story.

Speaker 1 He pulls a name out of a hat. It's some random celebrity from years past, and you have to say what you have.
I have a story associated with that. Oh, I bet, Rob.
Rob, you must crush that.

Speaker 1 You must crush that.

Speaker 2 I want you and I to play that game. We should go mono a mono.

Speaker 1 I would give anything to watch you two fucking go. Let's just play.

Speaker 2 Let's just play. Let's just play a version right now.

Speaker 2 I'll pick a name for you, and then you pick a name for me.

Speaker 1 That's a great idea. That's a great idea.
Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Telly Stavalas.

Speaker 1 I don't have any direct interaction with him,

Speaker 1 but I believe my wife that that might, or no,

Speaker 1 he may be her godfather, or maybe he's the godfather of Jen Aniston. I think,

Speaker 1 I think he's Jen's godfather, right? I think he's Jen's godfather, and Amanda and she are so close, so that's why it's pretty.

Speaker 1 So it's sort of it's it's adjacent too, which reminds me of my new construction company. It's called Adjacent Abatement, and we, what we do is we go in and we take mold out

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 1 here's my one for you: uh, Piazadora.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, you have one. So I was wow, I making out on the colony beach with Gregory Peck's daughter.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Fucking hey.
Everyone, shut up. Keep going, Rob.

Speaker 2 And I hear this woman going, that's disgusting.

Speaker 1 You should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 2 Don't you have any common decency?

Speaker 2 There are children on this beach.

Speaker 2 And I looked up and it was Piazadora.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. But how about for bonus points, we get Gregory Peck's daughter and the Malibu colony? I I mean,

Speaker 1 Pablo, this man is royalty. You're a hero.
Man, come on. Rob, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 How long have you known Downey?

Speaker 2 Ninth grade history class.

Speaker 1 Wow. Out there in Malibu?

Speaker 2 Samo High, Santa Monica High School.

Speaker 1 Wow. I could see it.
I remember at Christmas when I saw you

Speaker 1 at the Christmas party, and then I saw you talk to Rob, and I to Downey, and I was like, I could immediately see like, oh, this is deep. This is deep, long, deep, deep.

Speaker 1 You guys have that shorthand of knowing each other since being kids.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was so.

Speaker 2 And there was no one more fun to party with. Downey made me laugh harder than any human being in the world.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 I just love what he's done with his life. And he's such an inspiration and a great guy.
And, oh, by the way, Downey was on the bus with Cher and

Speaker 2 Whoopi Goldberg as well. I mean, he was, we were always doing that stuff.

Speaker 1 My mom used to call her hoopie.

Speaker 1 Well, because in her defense, she couldn't see the whole word because the W was covered because that's where the I,

Speaker 1 the buttons.

Speaker 1 Rob, do you think you'd be able to recall enough to write a satisfying book? He's written a book. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Let me finish. And he's turned very successfully.

Speaker 1 But in a book, when I say book, I mean a follow-up. Like a series.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. What's it called? The stories I only tell my friends, is that right?

Speaker 2 Stories I only tell my friends and

Speaker 1 the follow-up, Love Life. So we were talking about

Speaker 1 the third one.

Speaker 1 The third one is called Names and Dates.

Speaker 1 It's just names and dates and what fucking happened. Gregory Peck's daughter, March 12th, is adorable.

Speaker 1 You know, it's fucking... So now, Rob, and now you're back.
I know that your new thing, you're, well, not new, but you're obsessed with golf. You've been playing a lot.

Speaker 1 You and I played a couple months ago with Danny Dees, by the way. Rob's good buddies with Danny, who's a friend of the program.

Speaker 1 He's the best. He's the best.

Speaker 1 He's the world's only good finance guy.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you are talking about how obsessed you are with, and your game is getting really good.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're just

Speaker 1 on it, right? Like you're practicing a lot. Oh, I practice all the time.

Speaker 2 I don't get to play as much because I don't have that much time, really, but I'm practicing easily four days a week. Like today, I'm at Fox.

Speaker 1 Is there a goal?

Speaker 2 Yes, yes. My goal is to do what you did.
I want to play it, I want to play in the ATT. How was that for you?

Speaker 1 That was incredible. I mean, Will almost won the damn thing, but

Speaker 1 I had a really good time myself, too. And all you got to do is just put your hand up.
They'll have you up there. I mean, Rob, you're in.
You're in for next year with us. Come on.
It was such a blast.

Speaker 1 It was amazing. I'm doing it.
No, guys,

Speaker 2 I'm doing it. I'm 100% doing it.

Speaker 2 It always falls right in the middle of the production schedule, but I'm actually going to ask for the time off next year, and I'm absolutely committing to doing it.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 2 I got to follow Tiger Inside the Ropes at Genesis.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 And yeah, I got to be inside the ropes with Tiger, Rory, and JT. It was insane.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Those rounds were incredible.
Were you there the day when

Speaker 1 Tiger birdied the last three holes and they all birdied 18 together?

Speaker 2 No, that was the day after. I was there the day that he almost had the hole in one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, that that was incredible.

Speaker 2 Yeah. One revolution.
But I also saw him, you know, the green with the, with the sand trap in the middle of it?

Speaker 1 Oh, God, yeah. Totally.
You saw him putt into the sand trap.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Did you see that? I saw Tiger Woods

Speaker 2 putt into the sand trap, which just to me was the most beautiful thing in the world because I'm like, okay, that's the greatest who ever hoisted a golf club.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And even he came up.

Speaker 2 And even it was the thing was he was going to take his medicine. He was going to, you know, it's that thing we always do where we can't quite bring ourselves to take our medicine, yeah.

Speaker 2 We kind of also want to do the he kind of

Speaker 1 and he did get up and down before, though. He did, but yeah, I've putted into that uh bunker twice, yeah, uh, in my life, so I bet he did four twice.

Speaker 2 Uh, and the other thing he did that I noticed was whenever he would do something like that, he would go to another gear in whatever the next hole was, like another, like a another gear.

Speaker 1 I want to get Tiger on this show. I know, it would be great to have him

Speaker 1 wild. Uh, God, I just rob i could just listen to you talk about all your stuff all your i know i love god it's just everything you whether it's his movies or his shows or his life

Speaker 2 by the way well this is this is what the podcast is i mean because a lot of times somebody will bring up something and i'll go that reminds me because i do have a telly civala story where I was eight years old and Kojak was coming to Dayton, Ohio to sign autographs in the ladies' undergarments of Reich's department store.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 2 It was, yeah, absolutely true. And so I got my bus fared.

Speaker 1 Autographing underwear on the third floor is Telly Savalis.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. And he was probably doing a Kenley Players.
It was probably Telly Savalis and,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 some Arthur Miller show. And I take the bus and I wait in line forever.
And I bought him a sucker because I know Telly Savalis likes, remember Kojak always had the sucker? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he always had up like a charms blow pop.

Speaker 1 That was his thing.

Speaker 2 And so I bought him one and I brought it and I was going to give it to him. And it's a three and a half hour line, and I'm waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.

Speaker 2 I finally get right to the front of the line, and they go, That's it, Mr. Savalis has to leave.

Speaker 2 And he bails, and I'm standing here with my sucker.

Speaker 2 And I kind of look for somebody I think is important. And I go, Excuse me, would you give Mr.
Savalis my sucker? And he goes, Oh, kid, that's so thoughtful. I sure will.

Speaker 2 And I walk away, and I'm going down the escalator. I turn around to watch, and the guy throws it in the trash can.

Speaker 1 And that's awful.

Speaker 2 That actually stayed with me forever

Speaker 2 because whenever I meet someone, I'm always like, don't be Telly Sephales.

Speaker 1 Don't throw it in the sun. Don't be

Speaker 1 a bag of freshly cooked homemade cookies. And you're like, no, I'm going to eat these.
In fairness, it wasn't Telly who did it. It was a guy.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 2 It wasn't Telly.

Speaker 1 He probably would have taken it. Telly would have sucked it for sure.

Speaker 1 He probably would have. He probably

Speaker 1 thrown it at you.

Speaker 1 Well, I want to listen.

Speaker 1 I haven't listened. I don't, I'm not really into podcasts.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 2 Well, you make a hit podcast. You don't need to listen to another one.
I get it.

Speaker 1 It's a radio show. To Will, he's doing radio.
It is radio. It's Morning Zoo.
I feel like it's Morning Zoo. Drive time.
Yeah, drive time.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to copy my buddy Johnny Vaughan over there in the UK.

Speaker 1 And Rob, you're a helicopter pilot. How's the traffic on the five? Yeah.
You know, it's looking a little backed up over here as a pull of the pass.

Speaker 2 It's tail lights as far as you can see.

Speaker 1 I got the uniform for it. Well, Rob, let's get out again.
Let's get out and play again. That's really fun.

Speaker 1 I want to be a part of that as soon as my granddad back heals up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's not good, man. No, I know.
Don't come back too soon.

Speaker 1 I know. I got a date coming up in two days.

Speaker 1 Are you doing ice baths? You got a date in two days? And Meta's cool with that? She's just like...

Speaker 1 She wants me to be smart and safe, and she's letting letting me make my own decision, which is nice. And

Speaker 1 so she doesn't mind that you're, are you both dating, or is it just you?

Speaker 1 I am icing it. That does seem to help.
Good. Yeah.
I'll tell you one of the nicest things, and this is a true story. This is not a bit.

Speaker 1 I hurt my back a couple of years ago now, and I was at, and I was texting JB. I was like, my back really hurts.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I was at home, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere into my backyard comes Jason, and he's got like a back heating thing and like an icy hot thing

Speaker 1 and a bunch of stuff that he brought for my back. I just dropped it off in the night.
He just dropped it off.

Speaker 1 And he came into my backyard. I was in the sawning.
He came in and he knocked and he's like, I got all this stuff. I was like, just like a little angel.
And then got back in his car and left.

Speaker 1 That's right. Once a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Once, once, yeah.

Speaker 1 Even a stop clock. I thought, even a stopped clock, you know? Yeah.
Tells the right time twice a day. Okay, listen, Rob.

Speaker 1 We love you, man. I'm so excited about your show with John, and he's such a nice kid.
Would you please say hi to him for me. Yeah.
And also say hi to Cheryl.

Speaker 1 And to Cheryl, your lovely wife of many years.

Speaker 1 So sweet.

Speaker 1 God, you guys are such nice peeps. And it couldn't happen to a better one.
I love you guys.

Speaker 2 I was so excited. You're three of my favorite, in all seriousness, three of my favorite people.
I love everything about you guys. I love hanging with you.

Speaker 1 I love your work.

Speaker 2 I love your podcast.

Speaker 2 Dude, Bateman, you're making me laugh right now so hard in the fucking trailer for the Air Jordan movie.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 It's like only, only you can fucking steal a trailer with one left. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 It's so great. It's so great.
It's so nice. You're so nice.
It's amazing. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 It's amazing. Love you, Miss You Mean it.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Love you, Miss You Mean it.

Speaker 1 Santa Barbara. Yep.

Speaker 2 We'll go, you know, and hang or in, but let's make a house.

Speaker 1 Let's get fired off one of these 10,000 jobs you're doing and free some time up and let's go hang out. I know.

Speaker 1 It has to be working so hard. All right.
Has to be the weekends. Thank you, the great Rob Lowe.
We love you.

Speaker 1 Love you. It's load.

Speaker 1 It's load. Load.
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 Don't forget podcasts.

Speaker 2 Rob Lowe, literally, wherever you get your podcast.

Speaker 1 Listen to Rob's podcast. Listen, Rob's podcast.

Speaker 1 And Unstable on Netflix. You're watching it.
You're loving it.

Speaker 1 Everything, Rob Load all the time.

Speaker 1 Love you, boys. Love you.
Thanks for doing this, Rob. Bye, buddy.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Lovely man. That Rob Lowe that Rob Lowe he's um

Speaker 1 he's just always been nice always been talented always been handsome yeah that's uh another guy I'd like to come back as I think there's a long list here of guests we've had that I'd like to yeah you could talk to him for hours

Speaker 1 we tried to we tried to get him on uh I tried to get him on before he was when we had technical glitch a couple weeks ago and we had

Speaker 1 that was Rob yes and oh that was Rob oh I didn't know so I've been trying to get him on here forever and you know, we had a technical glitch with

Speaker 1 McConaughey way back when, right? When are you going to rebook him? I don't know. I want to get it back on here.

Speaker 1 That was a great because when we do have McConaughey on, then we can go through. Hopefully we have the recording of

Speaker 1 me having my hissy fit. When you had your...
Didn't I snap at him a little bit? Didn't I tell him your laughing is not making things helpful, surprised guest. And then you, and then you slashed it.

Speaker 1 Who was laughing? And you slammed your.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was so great. And then, and we can talk about contact with with you.
And we can talk about contact with you. You know, but I was

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 it occurred to me earlier, like, it is somewhat, it's either dangerous or good or whatever about this thing is that we do this all the time.

Speaker 1 We're always just sort of just, you know, almost every day, we're picking up the, we're talking with one another, no matter what mood we're in.

Speaker 1 And we drag that into these, these interviews, these conversations for the public. And oftentimes we're doing this thing in a bad mood.

Speaker 1 And like, what if we like, what if we get in a fight with one another? I mean, I know it's been, it's been tense a couple of times, but like every people just get like warts and all on this.

Speaker 1 Is that smart for us to be doing that? Why not? It's real. It's normal.
It's real, I guess. Yeah.
Also, who cares? Who cares? We're not going to get in a fight. Like, what's the worst number?

Speaker 1 Fuck you, Sean. Fuck you.
Don't you disagree with what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 We've had, I think it's,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just think like,

Speaker 1 I really mean it when I say who cares? We might as well, right? Because it's going to be lights out at some point. And then

Speaker 1 anyway, Rob Lowe. You know,

Speaker 1 Rob Rob, huh? This Rob Lowe. Hey, you know, Rob was in contact.
Rob was in contact. He was.
He was in contact. And by the way,

Speaker 1 he's not allergic to work. Boy, he works a lot.
By the way, just for the record, no recollection of him in contact or Matthew McConaughey for that matter.

Speaker 1 Well, Matthew McConaughey and Jerry Foster were the stars. Yeah, yeah.
But I only remember her in it. And wasn't there a kid, too? No? There were no kids.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm conflating. You're thinking of Nell?

Speaker 1 Another Jodie Foster vehicle. I do remember the incredible opening pullback, right? From Earl

Speaker 1 all the way back. Oh, and I emailed you that one shot where she runs into the mirror.
The mirror? Yep. How'd they do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's how they, that's the kid when she was a little kid. Yes, thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 But wait, but

Speaker 1 in his show that he's doing now, the 911 Lone Star,

Speaker 1 I thought, I couldn't tell if he was a cop or a cia or an f

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