"Billy Crudup"

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Speaker 3 Hey guys, welcome to my cold open.

Speaker 3 And it's a real cold open because I have a cold. And this is the open of the show that we call Smartless.
Let's go.

Speaker 3 Smart.

Speaker 3 Smart.

Speaker 3 Wait, JB, let's talk about this. Sometimes I get more excited about Jason's life than Jason does.
And I'm so excited about Carry On with Taryn Edgerton, which you just wrapped filming. I know Seville.

Speaker 3 So I'm super, super, super excited about that movie.

Speaker 3 I was excited because Jason last week,

Speaker 3 this is not hurtful, was about to shoot a scene where where he, I don't want to wreck the ending.

Speaker 3 Right, I know the story. This is funny.
But you know the end, and I was so happy to hear what he had to do on the last day.

Speaker 3 It is really funny. Can you say, Jay,

Speaker 3 I had to perform an extremely dramatic scene. Right.
I've imagined the most dramatic thing you could ever do.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it's just, it's the kind of thing you never want to have to act out.

Speaker 3 And I, and I had to, and I think I averted or I avoided the larger mines in the minefield. But

Speaker 3 I did smell my SAG card burning in my back pocket just a little bit. I don't know if you burned it all the way through, but it's not.

Speaker 3 Can you tell the thing how you re-blocked the fight choreography?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 For a minimum. I'm supposed to have this big fight with Taryn.
And, of course, we go in there and the stunt coordinators are, you know, are always amazing and they always come up with great stunts.

Speaker 3 But inevitably,

Speaker 3 if you're a soft sort of

Speaker 3 54-year-old guy like me who only swings hammers when there's a large insect around,

Speaker 3 you're going to say, no, thanks. I don't want to do the real intense stunt stuff.

Speaker 3 Can we reimagine this fight to where I just get him in an immediate chokehold?

Speaker 3 And we just have, we do our two pages of dialogue with both of us on our backs, and I've got him sort of, you know, neutralized. And there were supposed to be like 25 karate chop moves.

Speaker 3 Because I'm supposed to be a very skilled bad guy that knows how to really and you're like just one headlock and done.

Speaker 3 I'm like, yeah, I feel like my character is kind of bored with all that stuff now. I feel like my character would be in slippers at home by now.

Speaker 3 I feel like my character would go out for dinner once a month.

Speaker 3 I feel like my character's a little bit more of a podcaster.

Speaker 3 By the way, Amanda kept sorry. Amanda kept going,

Speaker 3 you know, this era is after, but Amanda kept going, and he's coming back next week, and then he's done with the movie, and he's going to go, and you guys get to go to Pebble Beach, and then done.

Speaker 3 And then golf is done, and then I'm done with it.

Speaker 3 We've got the Genesis. We've got the Genesis Pro-AM a week after that.
I thought, but we're doing the pro-AM. I thought it was pro-AM because it took place in the morning, right?

Speaker 3 Like, is there a pro-PM? Oh, God.

Speaker 3 I'm dead serious. That's what I'm saying.
You're going to get fired off of this.

Speaker 3 What's AM? Why is it AM? Play. Amateur.
Professional amateur pro-am.

Speaker 3 Is that what you? Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 There it is. Oh, my God.
I hear our guests laugh. I know me too.
I hear our guests.

Speaker 3 Let's get

Speaker 3 to it. While we're talking about actors, let's go ahead and get to this guy.
So sometimes an actor has talent, and then sometimes they have good looks, and then sometimes they got both.

Speaker 3 Our next guest has got neither. Huh.
Yeah. That's a good one.
No real bone structure to speak of.

Speaker 3 He's got not much of a speaking voice.

Speaker 3 His talent has been questioned by some of the greats after working with him.

Speaker 3 Folks like De Niro, Pitt, Blanchette, Christian Bale, Albert Finney, Tom Cruise, Matt Damon, directors Woody Allen, Cameron Crowe, Tom Stoppard. They all worked with him just the once.
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 3 Award givers have been equally circumspect, giving him one Tony Award. Not 10, not 12.

Speaker 3 He's received one Emmy. Again, not 10, not 12.

Speaker 3 He's not a rookie, but at 54, he's only been doing this for 30 years.

Speaker 3 And finally, he could be a bit brighter, having received not a Ph.D., just a master's.

Speaker 3 So let's try to lift his spirits up.

Speaker 3 Let's get the word out there for this guy, because while he may have a bunch of fancy credits out there, he may need some work because he's starring in only two television series at the current time.

Speaker 3 Let's give a warm welcome, a supporting welcome to Thomas and George Ann's boy, Billy Crudup. Oh my gosh.
William.

Speaker 3 Look, it's our dinner pal. Hi.
Hi.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 3 That's an awful lot not to live up to. Well, right? So that was sort of complimentary, yet kind of hurtful at the same time, right?

Speaker 3 It was the kind of greeting I would expect from a close, close friend who doesn't ever have to call. Yeah, we've never met.

Speaker 3 You know what Billigan on this? Don't wait. It's the kind of friendship I text you regularly.

Speaker 3 For me. It's important to keep boundaries, and I'm pleased that Will is so skilled at exercising that talent in his relationship.

Speaker 3 Will's worse than me. First of all, not true.

Speaker 3 Actually, no. Of all of us, you're the one.
I want to look up our chain, Will. And I'm going to fuck off.

Speaker 3 Will is pretty good at that. Sean,

Speaker 3 you and Will are actually pretty good at keeping.

Speaker 3 You guys text and call. You guys FaceTime all the time, right? Like kids.
You guys FaceTime? It's not just a phone call.

Speaker 3 Well, just like, first of all, wipe that shit, that face, look off your face. You FaceTimed me the other night out of the blue from the city.
Because I know that's how you like to do it. Like kids.

Speaker 3 And you said, wait, and then I FaceTimed him right after you did.

Speaker 3 And Jason, he just told me you made fun of him for the same reason I made fun of him because he was covering his furniture outside when it wasn't raining. Yeah, what's the matter with you, Will?

Speaker 3 Hey, Billy, Will's got... Why do you cover your furniture when it's not raining? He covers his outdoor furniture with a plastic.
I was worried about misting and stuff, and I was just out of the way.

Speaker 3 Misting? You're worried about misting? But they're ounce. I just don't like to get wet.
My grandparents used to have plastic on their furniture.

Speaker 3 And we used to come up with the metaphor, when are you going to take the plastic off for like living your life? So you don't have to like keep all the furniture covered all the time.

Speaker 3 You just kind of like because it's outdoor furniture. It's made to be outdoor.
So it can be well as everybody knows we've had the rain out here has been biblical in the last

Speaker 3 so everybody's been

Speaker 3 kind of past that. Yeah.
Whatever. Anyway, anyway, Billy, Billy, Billy, we don't want to waste Billy.
Here's Billy, the great Billy Crude. Guys, Poolside furniture is my specialty.

Speaker 3 I'm hoping that is Poolside and not just an outdoor deck. He does have a pool over there, a real nice pool.
Hey, Bill, I'm just taking a look at your studio apartment. How's everything going?

Speaker 3 Are you okay

Speaker 3 hey he's out here on location i will keep the cost of living low so i can keep the art high he's working two shows out here he lives in he lives in the new york city i know he does um wait what's the other show you're and we know you're on the morning show what's the other show it's hello tomorrow oh yes yeah now guess i want you both to guess what it's about will you first hello tomorrow time travel Wow, good.

Speaker 3 What do you got? You got a Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi signal over there or something? What about you, Sean? Hello Tomorrow. Tomorrow.
Exclamation point.

Speaker 3 It's like a romantic story. Like you're going to tell your girlfriend hello tomorrow because you can't wait to see her all the time.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 Will's got it. That's going to make it a beautiful musical that we're going to start in together for the first time finally making an appearance on stage.
That's it. Really, I'm hearing

Speaker 3 this is about lunar timeshare. What? This is correct.
So Will was in the ballpark there. It takes place in

Speaker 3 a sort of imagined future for America where door-to-door salesmen still exist.

Speaker 3 And we're selling timeshares on the moon. Because travel up there is common.

Speaker 3 It's that like the future is going to hold all of the incredible promises that we've all been

Speaker 3 waiting for. The hover cars, the jet packs, timeshares on the moon.
It's all going to happen and life will be so much better. When does it come out? February 17th.
February 17th. I'm so watching this.

Speaker 3 Wait a second. Holy shit, Billy, you kind of made this this on the slide.
You didn't tell any of us. I didn't know you were doing it.
I tell you, it's on our chain, Will. I told you all about it.

Speaker 3 No, it's not.

Speaker 3 You thought he was being rude about, I'll say hello to you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 Tomorrow's exclamation point, like really sticking the dagger in there. I can see the misunderstanding.
Classic screwed up. So, so this is on the Apple, right? It's on the Apple.

Speaker 3 What kind of place would you be offering timeshares

Speaker 3 in up there on the moon? Are they condos?

Speaker 3 Are they they like our like ranches? You can take your pick. We've got A through D units.
The A units have pool side,

Speaker 3 three bedrooms,

Speaker 3 expansive master

Speaker 3 overlooking a lunar crater. There are pools up there

Speaker 3 on the moon. That's correct.
Really? That's well, this is what we're selling, Jason.

Speaker 3 The

Speaker 3 Bright side is a corporation that was started to make affordable housing, luxury but affordable housing for people on the moon so that all of their dreams will come true when they rid themselves of the cesspool that is Earth.

Speaker 3 All right. Wow, let me tell you something.
Bateman, if this were real, we all know, the three of us know, that Jason would be the first person.

Speaker 3 He'd love to go live on the moon and he doesn't have to talk to anybody.

Speaker 3 Imagine how far you drive the ball in almost zero gravity. I mean, I'd get such carry from my wedges.
Three and a half mile drive. So, so, Billy,

Speaker 3 I want to get, there's so many things that we, I want to get into, but the first thing I want to get into is tell us a little bit about how Billy started. I mean, I don't even know if I know this.

Speaker 3 I don't know this.

Speaker 3 What was your first introduction to acting?

Speaker 3 That's my first question. I don't know Billy's story in that way.
What got you started? I know. Hey, Bill.
Guys, I have been waiting to tell you my story. How long is this podcast?

Speaker 3 We're going to double up. Or whatever you want.
Double F. For you,

Speaker 3 you're a friend of the program. Music to my ears.
So parents were one. Dad was an attorney, maybe?

Speaker 3 Dad was not

Speaker 3 an attorney. Dad was a salesman.
Wikipedia. He was a traveling salesman.
My grandfather was an attorney, so there was an attorney in the family.

Speaker 3 Also a congressman.

Speaker 3 That was previous to that. Yeah, that was several generations ago.

Speaker 3 Both a state senator and a congressman.

Speaker 3 But that's going back into the 19th and 18th centuries. But there's pedigree.
But I wasn't, well, there was a Baptist preacher.

Speaker 3 And in the article that my grandfather kept

Speaker 3 that was, I guess, an homage to him or an obituary, I couldn't tell which.

Speaker 3 But it was told there was no man of greater pulpit power. So there's a kind of performative

Speaker 3 streak in the crude up veins there. Yeah.
But my dad was not an actor. My mom was not an actor.

Speaker 3 So all that performing that I did, just as a way to fit in, guys, I'm sure you're familiar with that, feeling a little bit lonely, a little bit on the outside. There was school in Florida.
Yes.

Speaker 3 There was high school in Florida. Yeah, I went to about eight different schools before I finished high school because we moved around quite a bit.

Speaker 3 And so my way of fitting in was being the class clown. I was not

Speaker 3 prodigious in height.

Speaker 3 So getting the attention of anybody around me required. You had to throw your voice quite a bit higher.
So did you

Speaker 3 travel but traveling from school to school and always moving homes and stuff like that how did that affect you like because scotty had to do that scotty moved like 17 times in his life so he's always so whenever he sees moving boxes he he gets stressed out that was more law motivated though right

Speaker 3 being on the limb is a little different there was some proximity my dad like he skirted the edges as well so there was there was some anxiety surrounding it but truthfully you you the adaptability is what you begin to to really

Speaker 3 rely upon and and and um listening to people reading people figuring out what different

Speaker 3 what the new group that you you want to be friends with and in grammar school is into who they who they need you to be who who do they need exactly yeah so that kind of accommodation works terrific in telling a story who do you need me to be in this but did you see a movie or tv show or or or a play that was like oh that that looks really fun i i bet i could buy it

Speaker 3 yes Wow.

Speaker 3 Really? Caligula. Wow.
That was the thing that really got me going. Wait,

Speaker 3 so you moved around a lot and then did you what? You became, all of a sudden you decided

Speaker 3 you were a teenager and you sort of getting into theater and any performance that would come up, Will, in school. For instance,

Speaker 3 if you had to do

Speaker 3 a presentation for history where they required you to dress up as somebody, I always went a little too far.

Speaker 3 I always was more comfortable than other people at memorizing the lines and pretending to be.

Speaker 3 But I went full bore and it was clear that I didn't have any shame. There was no problem being up in front of people and worried that they were going to lash it.
You should have become a politician.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, having no shame must have really prepared you for the time that we live in now, which is just all it takes is having no shame. Bill, you just mentioned memorizing all the lines.

Speaker 3 I will say something. Okay.

Speaker 3 Having gone over and having a little fun with the folks, the gang over there at the morning show the last couple years. Hold for a pause.
Oh, yeah, baby. And being a fan of the show

Speaker 3 before being Doug. I love it when Billy calls me Doug, which is just as a character.
Oh, God, you're such a Doug, Will.

Speaker 3 Doug. I'd like to, Billy and I had like two scenes together, and he just kept calling me Doug.
And Billy's got to be. Yeah, but I got to refer to you in a lot of scenes you were at there.

Speaker 3 And every time I did, I would go, now you got to make sure you get rid of duh.

Speaker 3 It was really fun to lean into.

Speaker 3 It's rich coming from a Corey. He really did.
I know it is rich coming from Corey,

Speaker 3 but he would. But here's the thing.
Your character on that show, you're so good on that show, and you were well deserved in winning the Emmy for it. You have your dialogue.

Speaker 3 You don't just have dialogue. You have monologues virtually every time you speak.
And

Speaker 3 the amount of dialogue you had to memorize for every episode goes above and beyond normally what people have to for TV programs. It's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 It is crazy. Yeah, it's a lot.
How do you do it? It's definitely a lot. And I made some poor choices

Speaker 3 because

Speaker 3 it was born out of desperation, another quality I think a lot of actors share. And I really wanted this part.
I thought it was a fantastic part.

Speaker 3 I had to convince a few people that I knew how to play it in a way that would help the show.

Speaker 3 And part of my pitch was that his mind is extremely facile and he can come up with big ideas and express them over the course of a single breath. So as long as you give me enough time to,

Speaker 3 I need, you know, a week, two weeks at best to parse one of those out, but you just,

Speaker 3 there's these things called mnemonics that you can use to try to memorize dialogue. You know, I think everybody who's an actor, I can guarantee,

Speaker 3 never had a problem memorizing anything. Their brains are built to internalize dialogue.

Speaker 3 As they get older and that facility starts to evaporate, that's when you see people start to get panic attacks because the one thing that they took for granted that everybody gets, everybody's afraid of public speaking because they're worried they'll forget what they're going to say.

Speaker 3 People who are actors have a brain that can accommodate internalizing text in the same way that people who are good at math do. So that's one of the things that is not a problem for me.

Speaker 3 However, speaking that fast and having thoughts that expansive is extremely difficult, as Jason noted in his introduction, I am not

Speaker 3 bright

Speaker 3 bright sorry and so were you gonna say that

Speaker 3 i was gonna say bright you off i was gonna i was gonna use a different word smart but right bright yeah no i use the word

Speaker 3 definitely because more on point

Speaker 3 has i'm not that right uh uh bright so what i do though is i work yeah yeah

Speaker 3 no one's gonna outwork him i apply pressure through work yes exactly and you can't talk to billy before the scene because he's just like got so much shit that he's got to say.

Speaker 3 I do. I sit at the corner.
I stare at the corner when it's your life.

Speaker 3 And he'll kind of like, you walk in, you're like, hey, man, he's like, hey, just, and you're like, oh, fuck, he's got this, his energy is like a fucking corner, corner.

Speaker 3 Are you saying that my ability to learn lines is going to leave me one of these days? I'm just going to say it's

Speaker 3 Jason's one of the all-time greats. Yeah, I'm telling you, Jason can look at a page and boom.
But you're saying that that's, because once that's gone, I'm screwed. Not for you.
You're.

Speaker 3 let him finish. I don't know.
You're on so many drugs, you're not aging anymore at all. I mean, you look so much, I don't even know what it is.
Where do you want to port it from? It's pretty nice.

Speaker 3 That's my question. The serums.
I know you're not. The serums.
It's the serums, guys. And probably the

Speaker 3 autoniacin or something. No, it's a facial toner.
Okay.

Speaker 3 And then there's a new eye cream. that Amanda gave me.

Speaker 3 And I wear

Speaker 3 the receipt.

Speaker 3 All right, now hang on a second. Who was your biggest influence growing up? Well, my dad loved Paul Newman movies, and uh, so

Speaker 3 that's why you did, is that why you did the voice in the documentary?

Speaker 3 Definitely.

Speaker 3 When I saw Cool Hand Luke, uh, that changed my idea of what actors and movie stars and movies could do. I wrote a paper on it in college.
I loved it so much.

Speaker 3 And so, when Ethan was doing that thing on Paul Newman, of course, I wanted to be a part of it. But

Speaker 3 the stage to my mom, because we were born on Long Island, my mom would take us into the city to see plays. Oh, Arnett Summer's out there.
What's that?

Speaker 3 Will?

Speaker 3 I spend time out on Long Island in the summertime, yeah. You do in Port Washington? Just like they're like in the center of it? I mean, just east of there.
That's exit 34, exit 35.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it is exit 34, like near South. Or do you go further? You go further east.
I go a little further east and a little further south.

Speaker 3 But it's still on the island, right? It's It's still on the island for sure. For sure.
Just past Manorville.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 And past Quag and everything? Is it getting you?

Speaker 3 A little bit past.

Speaker 3 Past East Quag?

Speaker 3 Even

Speaker 3 East Quag. Is it past Sabonic? You know that golf course, Sabonic? Oh, Sabanic.
Is it a little past? It's a little past Sabonic.

Speaker 3 So that's not where I was from. Okay.
That's

Speaker 3 Manhassenette.

Speaker 3 Manhasset's actually closer to Port Washington. It's kind of one town over, basically.
Correct. It is one town over.
In fact, that's where we shot the exteriors for Hello Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 And the hospital that was on the call sheet was the hospital that I was born in, North Shore Hospital. So I was playing my father in the town where I was first born.
It was a pretty

Speaker 3 strange experience. No way, Billy.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's where they get the exclamation point from because it's like,

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Speaker 3 and now back to the show

Speaker 3 now um when you were at

Speaker 3 nyu not getting a phd um

Speaker 3 do you

Speaker 3 do you still use things that you learned there while getting just your masters or do you feel like

Speaker 3 you are

Speaker 3 you're impressive jason i will say that uh to make getting a master's in anything sound like a disappointment is that's a rare gift you should see

Speaker 3 as kids some people don't you should see as good they're in teeth broke up there just for a second there Will would you say

Speaker 3 do you still I mean like I would imagine let me guess here I would imagine the stuff that you learned there which is good high quality acting lessons you learn more or you

Speaker 3 you use more in theater than you do in television or film, correct or not, correct? Some of the tools, you know, for using your body in an expansive way, if you know what I mean, caligula,

Speaker 3 are best exhibited. Yes, on stage.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 if I had one of those TiVo 10-second things here,

Speaker 3 I would back that up. And I would

Speaker 3 back it up.

Speaker 3 I would listen up, Wills, fuck you out.

Speaker 3 A bunch of times.

Speaker 3 my ringtones you better fucking finish with the direction you're going finish

Speaker 3 finish keep fucking eye contact

Speaker 3 keep goddamn eye contact

Speaker 3 so finish the story so it is not look at Will Square finish the story

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 have found that on stage you can apply many of the skills.

Speaker 3 However, with this part that I'm doing right now, it simply would not be possible were I not not to have acquired the skills that I did in graduate school because my mouth doesn't move as fast as this guy does.

Speaker 3 Well, I think if we're going to build a clickable headline here, we're going to say Billy needs no acting lessons whatsoever to

Speaker 3 take on the character of

Speaker 3 which Apple show are we talking about right now? I was talking about the morning show. The morning show.

Speaker 3 Nate takes no talent to do

Speaker 3 that. me.
Or perhaps

Speaker 3 the rigor that we put into setting up this

Speaker 3 system that I've got in my home now has not been effective, and you didn't hear me. Point was

Speaker 3 the work.

Speaker 3 Did you hear it, Will? I did, but

Speaker 3 I just want to implore you, because I think Jason said he's putting you into a trap, because as we both, as we all know,

Speaker 3 there's one critic who, were she to read the morning show, just takes, it's a breeze for me to do, and I don't have to put in any work. There's only one critic,

Speaker 3 and she listens to every episode,

Speaker 3 and your fucking phone will blow up, Billy, so fucking fast.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you check your email. Again, I would like to articulate.
Aniston just fired you. I should just go get my iPad and show you my application that has the notes in there.

Speaker 3 But for this particular character, I have to employ every single device that I have at my disposal, which include

Speaker 3 memorization. No, this is the morning show.

Speaker 3 We're still on the morning show the okay so hello tomorrow i i'm playing a version of my dad and he speaks a lot slower i just had to connect to some uh emotions and some existential despair in the morning show there are no emotions he's really enjoying his position in life but he does speak very fast so that's one thing i don't do i do speak slow and i am connected to my emotions jason okay i have feelings so billy you did you you have spent a lot of time in you talk about the theater.

Speaker 3 You spent a lot of time early on. Actually, we were mentioning Ethan.
Didn't you and Ethan Hawk at one point do like two or three plays in a row? We most certainly did. It was a few years running.

Speaker 3 Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, I know Jason wasn't going to.
It was called Coast of Utopia. Yeah, and I will now do all three plays for Jason, playing each part.
Coast of Utopia

Speaker 3 is the play you won the Tony for, correct? That is correct. And that was written by Tom Stoppard.
There's a big deal. As Jason knows, it was about Russian philosophers at the turn of the century.
Yes.

Speaker 3 And if you can imagine an 11-hour... Underreported on.

Speaker 3 If you can imagine an 11-hour meditation on that, that's what you would have gotten if you had seen Coast of Utopia with Ethan and I. And a number of other players.
Was it really 11 hours?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we did.

Speaker 3 There was three plays that we did in repertory. So we did the first play

Speaker 3 on, say, a Tuesday night. And then the second play, we would do a Wednesday Wednesday matinee, and then the third play we would do a Wednesday night, and then we'd start again on Thursday.

Speaker 3 But then on Saturday, we would do a marathon where we at 11 o'clock we would do the first play, then there would be a lunch break, and then at three o'clock, we would do the next play, and then there would be a dinner break, and then eight o'clock, we would do the last play.

Speaker 3 And every single one of those performances, 1,500 people at the Vivian Beaumont Theater was packed. People liked the event, even if it was about Russian philosophy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they liked being a part of the. And my character died in the middle of the second play.

Speaker 3 So I got to get on my little Vespa, wheel my ass home, have a little nap, maybe cook some dinner for my son, and then take the Vespa back up to Lincoln Center for the curtain call at 11 o'clock.

Speaker 3 Wow. How about that?

Speaker 3 Wow. Wow.

Speaker 3 Do you have, like, when you're a younger actor, though, first of all,

Speaker 3 we chatted on my other podcast called Hypochondria Actor quite a while ago.

Speaker 3 Had a blast. What's it called?

Speaker 3 Where do we find it?

Speaker 3 It's fine. Anyway, so listen, so, but I never asked you this because you're in some of my favorite movies.
We talked about this.

Speaker 3 I got Alien Covenant. Good.
Mission Impossible 3. Was it 2, 3, 4? Yeah.

Speaker 3 But anyway, like tons of

Speaker 3 Spotlight. You were in Spotlight, which I love.

Speaker 3 By the way, your name, Billy, your name came up when we had Krasinski on a few weeks ago, and we were talking about that scene where you and Cruz are mouthing to each other because they're speaking, but you're not saying anything.

Speaker 3 And we were talking because we oh yeah because we love that yeah i love when you do that when you were younger though and you got like some of these big you know jobs like working with ridley scott or whoever tom cruise or you know uh you were almost famous too weren't you i think oh yeah

Speaker 3 yeah

Speaker 3 cameron crow like when you're younger and you're like working with these bigger names directors or whatever it is where don't you kind of freak out like i can't believe i'm here i can't believe i'm i can't believe i got the part i can't you know what i mean Like, for me, I would be like, I don't know, it would be distracting almost.

Speaker 3 Like, I couldn't get past, oh my God, I'm working with Ridley Scott. It was awful.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, it was an absolutely terrible experience because the only thing you can do is react the opposite way because you don't want to be fired.

Speaker 3 So you end up acting overconfident and pissing off the people that you've admired because you're just trying to act like you're not going to shit yourself, which is all you're thinking about.

Speaker 3 The entire movie is a little bit different. Is that true? Is that true? Oh, I was doing Barry Levinson.

Speaker 3 i loved his movies growing up speaking of influences like diner and then the whole baltimore trilogy avalon um the uh tin men actually is do you guys remember remember that movie about um guys who sold alum aluminum side richard yeah richard dreyfus exactly so there's a lot of uh um hello tomorrow has a lot of the same kind of spirit you know that glenn gehry glenn ross we got uh the the You can sell your way into a better future.

Speaker 3 It doesn't matter what you're selling. The product is irrelevant.

Speaker 3 You can, as an American,

Speaker 3 just take some gumption. The land of opportunity selling is

Speaker 3 the purest example of that.

Speaker 3 Jason takes two gumptions every night before bed, right, Billy? Well, yeah, he's up to two. You're up to two.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And one before a podcast.
It helps, it helps. Now, I want to talk about that.
Hang on, no, hang on. He's making a point.
He's making a point. Yes, we see that, Billy.
Land the plane. Sorry.

Speaker 3 Right. No, no, no.
So

Speaker 3 I was working with Barry Levinson.

Speaker 3 One of the first things I did was he directed Sleepers, and that was starring

Speaker 3 Robert De Niro, Dustin Hoffman,

Speaker 3 Brad Pitt,

Speaker 3 amongst others. Kevin Bacon.
I was shitting myself. This was your first time.
First film was Kevin Bacon.

Speaker 3 I did one independent movie that I don't know if you guys saw called Grind.

Speaker 3 No, but I had an R onto the end of the day. You have the Sean as the app, though, don't you?

Speaker 3 It's different. Am I thinking of the same thing? Okay,

Speaker 3 I want to get to the film you did called pillow no i want to talk about barry levinson

Speaker 3 i want him to finish with barry levinson so oh so you see so you're admired barry so to sean's point before um it the last thing that you think to do is uh

Speaker 3 act giddy you know because first of all we're playing gangsters but secondly you you have to feel like you you want to make them feel like you fit in that you can handle the job consequently you miss the opportunity to tell them all how much you love them and how much their

Speaker 3 work has inspired you throughout your lives. I was thinking about because when I did Without Limits, which was about this runner, Steve Prefontaine, Robert Towne directed it.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 he was like always thoughtful and poetic and a bit cantankerous and stuff. And so, like, we were constantly working together trying to figure out the scripts.
But Conrad Hall

Speaker 3 was shooting it. And

Speaker 3 now, as an adult, the fact that I didn't spend all the time asking him every possible question I could about the incredible career that he had had up to that point, rather than screaming at him that I understood the character better than he did,

Speaker 3 that would have been a

Speaker 3 memorable way. You never know if the person wants to talk about all that or not.
You know, it's a delicate kind of thing.

Speaker 3 For sure. But those are those things of like, as you get older,

Speaker 3 you're able to appreciate it in a way that you couldn't when you're that young, of course, right? Yeah, and that you and the idea that you can take a moment to go, like, hey, I

Speaker 3 really appreciate what you've done. I need to tell you this, and I want to carve some time out.
And I feel like, Jason, do you want to say that? I'll give you a minute here.

Speaker 3 Jason's great at that time. Actually, he was like that on the longest week.
Every single day, he would start with a positive affirmation with me.

Speaker 3 He would bring me a clip from either something I did on film or read to me something, a review of me on stage, just to keep my chin up. Because he admired that.

Speaker 3 That sounds good. And I appreciate it.
And that's because he's a veteran. He's been working since he was two.

Speaker 3 I was late to the game. I didn't start professionally working until I was in my late 20s.
Well, I did ask you quite a bit about how you kept your water weight down during the Pre-Fontaine thing.

Speaker 3 Right? So

Speaker 3 Jason has a photo of you. Jason has a photo of you at the end of his treadmill, and that's what keeps him going.
He just stares at it.

Speaker 3 Hey, what about, did you have to turn into a long-distance runner for Pre-Fontaine? Pre-Fontaine? Great question.

Speaker 3 No. And I did not have to turn into a killer for sleepers.
Nobody asked that one.

Speaker 3 Sometimes it's just pretend. Yeah.
Somebody's just pretend. It's called acting, Jason.
Look into it, you dick. When they

Speaker 3 thank God, the woman, there was a woman on it who was our consultant, our running consultant, because she had, she was a professional runner. She ran in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 And she was also in Personal Best, which was Robert Towne's first movie on running. With Margo Hemingway.
Mary Elle Hemingway. Mary L.
Hemingway. And

Speaker 3 so she understood the difference between running as a sport and running on film. And it turns out when you run on film, you're only doing intervals.

Speaker 3 So you don't want to ever train for more than 200 meters because the camera is not going to do like a pan of the entire stadium.

Speaker 3 So you're going to do little segments at a time for each part of the race. So what she trained me to do was intervals.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it was funny, some of the professional runners, they wanted to keep just running and running and running. And she was right.
They would burn out. By the end of the day, they were done.

Speaker 3 And,

Speaker 3 but, you know, it does, it does. Sean, you do that, right? For intervals of, you said you've had a lot of intervals.
You've had the runs now for about two months, haven't you?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 Bill cracked himself up on that.

Speaker 3 But I managed to. I plowed through.
I plowed through. Hey, Bill.

Speaker 3 Now, this is

Speaker 3 chat bot

Speaker 3 499, whatever, that new AI thing kicked out some questions. Chat GBT, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 chatbot wants to know, what do you feel your most underrated performance is? And then as a follow-up, what's your most overrated performance? Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 He put in, what were your search terms into ChatGBT, you fucking psycho?

Speaker 3 By the way, and

Speaker 3 did it reveal Billy's answers? A lot of this is for Billy Corbin, but I'm just, I think this works.

Speaker 3 I think my most underrated performance is in Ozark.

Speaker 3 And the most. God, why did we cut you out? I know.
I think that's one of the reasons.

Speaker 3 Nearly everything. Everything is overrated.

Speaker 3 It's a shame that I'm on your program because it signaled the beginning of the decline for you all.

Speaker 3 Meaning this is the peak right now. You're at the zenith.

Speaker 3 Well, you have the zenith was just over here, and like

Speaker 3 as soon as this arrived on the radar, as soon as you got some crude-up magic.

Speaker 3 I want to know, here's something else Chatbot wants to know.

Speaker 3 Archie was locked out. Sorry.
Archie was locked out. Oh, were you gone? We didn't notice.

Speaker 3 So you're an EP on Hello Tomorrow. You are.
And for Tracy, that means executive producer.

Speaker 3 Now, aside from the incredible contractual perk that Aline Kashishian gave you by getting you that

Speaker 3 position. She's a manager.
That salary. I mean,

Speaker 3 Jimmy Darmady knows how to do it. And Jimmy Darmady,

Speaker 3 another great golfer. Now, what are you doing as EP? Are you out there as executive producer? Are you cracking the whip? Are you showing up on set on the days you're not acting?

Speaker 3 A lot of silence

Speaker 3 because I didn't do a lot of that on Os Arc.

Speaker 3 But, but I was watching dailies. I'm in there.
I'm looking at cuts.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I'll be frank.

Speaker 3 I was not in the lead on that idea.

Speaker 3 I was informed after the contract negotiations were completed that I was a producer on this program. But

Speaker 3 you're being very, very modest here, and I'm teasing you a bit, but you're a part of the brain trust there

Speaker 3 that's doing stuff to that show that is more than what you could do as an actor. Yes.
Well, let's guiding you.

Speaker 3 Let's just say,

Speaker 3 Billy, I'll help you out here.

Speaker 3 Let's just say that you get to a certain point in your career, and this especially often comes with experience as well, that it gives you a voice at the table that allows you to participate in conversations about

Speaker 3 the

Speaker 3 creative direction of whatever it is you're working on. And you've earned that to be able to go.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because if you're just an actor for hire, you can, as the actor, you can go, I don't know about this, but they can go, okay, well, we'll take that on board.

Speaker 3 As an EP, you can go, hey, my voice, I get a vote on this. And are you enjoying that, Billy? Are you

Speaker 3 so

Speaker 3 it's taken, and I'm going to answer this seriously, okay, guys? Yeah, and I mean to

Speaker 3 ask it seriously. I'll stop to you.
Okay.

Speaker 3 So I've always thought of myself as

Speaker 3 an interpretive. Perfect time.
So just

Speaker 3 one second.

Speaker 3 But we're going to have you back.

Speaker 3 Back to Fort Washington. Big fan.
Okay, I never talked about being a clown and my young mime work.

Speaker 3 No, seriously, go ahead, seriously. Seriously, Seriously, go ahead.
Go ahead. Also, my first job was as a reenactor.
We'll get back to that, though. Okay, good.

Speaker 3 That's not a wicky page. I have thought of myself.
I am not somebody who, like the three of you, I'm sure,

Speaker 3 can create things, write things themselves, collaborate with a friend on a script, improve. I read something, and if it speaks to me, or some part of it speaks to me, I want to do it.

Speaker 3 If I don't understand it, or there's a part of it that I don't understand at all, I don't do it. I don't go, oh, I understand in the third act.
We just need to polish on antagonism there.

Speaker 3 The guy gets to the peak of his arc too soon, and then what are we doing for the last 20 minutes? I just don't think like that.

Speaker 3 I think, okay, there's something about this material that I think makes for an exciting story, and I bet I could help with that part.

Speaker 3 And if the director can explain the way in which they plan on making that story come to life in a way that I can understand, then I do it.

Speaker 3 And I leave everything to the director, everything, all the producer,

Speaker 3 all the editing.

Speaker 3 Well, of course, we talk about my interpretation of the character and how, on a scale of bad to terrible, where it is at that point in the shoot, and what I can do to improve and live up to my promise.

Speaker 3 But I don't go, let me get into the editing, let me fix it. I never think, ah, I know how this movie would have worked.
I could have now, it's just not a part.

Speaker 3 I mean, Justin has had that instinct throw since you know, I knew him 30 years ago. He's wanted to be a part of

Speaker 3 that creative storytelling, and it has always always eluded me. And look at him now.
Arrested, incarcerated for what, what did he get? 10 years? I think?

Speaker 3 10 to 20, I think. But

Speaker 3 we're going to be here with the best. I wanted to get to throw in a second because I want to hear the end of your thing.
But he's going to be great. He's going to be great.
He's going to be okay.

Speaker 3 Have you noticed, don't you see lately the photos lately that his arms have gotten a little bit smaller? Yeah, well, those are going to bulk up in prison, right? You betcha.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, because prison is a great place for arms.

Speaker 3 It's a good place, but I'm just, I don't know. I just sort of feel like he's finally catching up with him.

Speaker 3 He's looked good and sort of young for his age, and now it's really catching up to him, and he doesn't look so high. Use that box of sleeves that you sent him for.

Speaker 3 It happens to everybody, but once he gets a hold of Jason's niacin and beatroop, he'll be fine.

Speaker 3 Wait, Billy, anyway, so you've never, so wait, so you've never been part of that process? Oh, yeah, so I didn't want to do any of that. And

Speaker 3 so when it actually came to this, and

Speaker 3 we had to go through the casting, that was the first part of it where I got to have some

Speaker 3 agency, for lack of a better word, and say that maybe that's the tone we're looking for. Maybe we don't need Arnett.
You know, maybe Bateman is not right for anything. Maybe he, you know,

Speaker 3 when it came to those discussions, can we get more haze? Is there a possibility? Is it even available? No, he's got two podcasts.

Speaker 3 Those kinds of conversations. Sure, sure.
They were moderately exciting.

Speaker 3 But the work is what I really liked. And then when,

Speaker 3 to your point before, I did watch dailies and I got to have a point of view about when I saw the assemblies, whether or not the work that that I was responding to was actually in the cut.

Speaker 3 And that I got to exert quite a bit of influence, which I felt very proud about.

Speaker 3 Now, when this comes out, and if people have problems with certain takes that were the ones that I leaned into, I think we'll have an idea what kind of producer I am.

Speaker 3 It's just a lot of character, like a secondary characteristic going, hey, you know, I got to take off, I got to leave early for work. And you're going, Why?

Speaker 3 Why?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 Now, trying to go to the boat.

Speaker 3 By the way, that's a great,

Speaker 3 that's a great scene.

Speaker 3 Hey, I got to take off.

Speaker 3 I got to get home. I'm late for this.
I've just got to head out.

Speaker 3 The beginnings.

Speaker 3 When you're not with your kid, your incredible kid, I love him. Oh, you've done a good job.
Terrific.

Speaker 3 By the way, he's in film school right now, looking to get into the business there, kicking some ass. He's a real nice kid, your son Will.
And I will say, I hadn't seen him in a few years.

Speaker 3 The leap I made was, I want to say probably almost 10 years from the time

Speaker 3 when you and I were staying in that place years ago,

Speaker 3 that weird place

Speaker 3 in West Hollywood.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 Will was probably four or five or something at the time. Yeah, that's right.
And Archie had just been born.

Speaker 3 And then cut to all of a sudden we were out at our friend's place having, and then there's this like full, full-blown adult sitting next to you between you and me, and you're like, hey, and this is Will.

Speaker 3 And I go, wait a second, this is your.

Speaker 3 And we will be right back.

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Speaker 3 All right. Back to the show.

Speaker 3 I have a question about, you know, when you, because you,

Speaker 3 thank you. When you work a ton and it seems like you don't stop, and part of that includes travel.

Speaker 3 What's that? Where am I calling from? Oh, I thought you were going to say, what are you running from?

Speaker 3 And you're constantly, you know different cities different whatever hotels or one or studio bed one studio one bedroom apartments whatever you say do you ever feel like an energy pulling you home wherever you are or can you be present and go oh my god this is fun i love being away from home for this long i like this job like can you be fully present wherever you are or do you constantly feel like god i kind of wish i was home sean it's a great question you know i didn't actually um spend a lot of time working outside of new york for a while uh for that exact reason.

Speaker 3 The draw of home is pretty strong. And obviously, when you got a child in school, that's a pretty strong draw.
Never stop, baby. And also, to Jason's point, looking at him now, he's a typical carney.

Speaker 3 I like the carney life too. I like

Speaker 3 being on the road, but not the way that I did when I was younger.

Speaker 3 I much prefer to be at home now. Well, then, what would a perfect day be for you today? Like, first of all, what city would you be in? Perfect, perfect day.
What city are you in? I'm in New York.

Speaker 3 You're in New York. What are you doing? I wake up.
What time are you going to get up? I wake up around 7.30, have myself a couple of cups of coffee

Speaker 3 because I was up late watching Carolina basketball. And I sleep in till 7.30.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 then I make some coffee and I calm my...

Speaker 3 You make the coffee. You don't have the coffee like one of those people.
I make the coffee. And drip coffee, just drip coffee, like an espresso roast, a little milk and sugar.

Speaker 3 And I put that in my to-go

Speaker 3 my to-go cup. Sure.
And you're going to leave the house before

Speaker 3 you've met my girlfriend.

Speaker 3 He's kissing people. Shut up.
Sorry.

Speaker 3 I meet my friend John Conley

Speaker 3 at the golf course. And the two of us walk around in about three and a half hours or so.
Not in Jersey. Maybe shoot somewhere in the low 80s,

Speaker 3 Have a nice day. Oh, we're still sleeping.

Speaker 3 No, this is now we're not. Jason, I thought he was dreaming.

Speaker 3 It's better if I take it back from the beginning. It's better when I get back.
Okay,

Speaker 3 so I wake up at 7:30:30. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So, so, so you finish, so, so, so, well, that's that's lunchtime. Now, you go home, that's right.
So, and, and, and you're gonna have a little nap ski. Oh,

Speaker 3 good. Welcome to middle age,

Speaker 3 maybe a 20-minute power nap or something. Uh, Shower, have an early dinner because the lady and I are taking in some theater.
And we're going to go see a show. That's nice.

Speaker 3 And we meet a couple of the cast afterwards, Barce and Trolley. Bars and Trolley.
And then that's a perfect day.

Speaker 3 What show you seeing? Yeah. What do we like? We like to look musical.
What is up now? That's a great question.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of good stuff. That's a great question.

Speaker 3 There's a great new play opening this spring. Tell us, Will.
At the Belasco. Oh, at the Belasco.
If you can get tickets. If you can get tickets.

Speaker 3 It's called Good Night, Oscar. Wait, the Belasco.
Good night, Oscar. It's called Good Night Comma, Oscar.

Speaker 3 Starring Good Night Oscar Mom. Starring

Speaker 3 our

Speaker 3 Sean Hayes.

Speaker 3 That opens. What in the world? That opens at the end of Sean Hayes back on Broadway.

Speaker 3 Is this happening?

Speaker 3 B-O-B.

Speaker 3 On the Great White Way. When is this opening, Sean? We're all going opening night.
We're all going open. No pressure, Billy.

Speaker 3 It opens April 23rd. Preview is.
April 23rd. Yeah.
That's so nice. April 20th.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 the opening night is the 24th. Or 24th.
Maybe it's the 24th. Yeah.
Trust us.

Speaker 3 It's the 44th. So now, Sean, would you like

Speaker 3 four tickets? Sean, would you like us there at opening night or do you want us in the preview so we can give you a nice day?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I actually really, truly, honestly, don't want to know if you guys come. And by the way, if you don't come, that's okay, too.
But if you do come, are you kidding?

Speaker 3 I'm going to be like, okay, Dominican, we'll be there opening night. We won't let you know, but as soon as the curtain goes up, we're going to go shut it.
Shut it. Shut it.
There it is.

Speaker 3 Shut it! Shut it! Can you see the shot? I've been saying

Speaker 3 Sean! I can see him! He can't see me. There's a future wall.
Works on their side, doesn't work on ours. Like that reflected mirror.
No, wait, in Chicago.

Speaker 3 It's like we're in the Billy in Chicago. Sean, you did it, huh?

Speaker 3 It's happening. Look around.
Stay that line again. Enjoy it.
Enjoy it. Soak it in.
When we did it in Chicago, I entered my entrance and somebody from away in the back goes, Just Jack!

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 3 This was a matinee audience. Absolutely, it was a matinee.
Matinee. There it is.
Fucking fucking.

Speaker 3 Well, that's exciting.

Speaker 3 Can't wait to see that, Sean. Hang on.
So, Billy, I want to get to this too before, because you've done so many. First of all, we like glossed over Almost Famous because you did that.

Speaker 3 You were so good in that, and you just shot out of a cannon on that movie. Like, it really took everybody, like, it was awesome.
So, I are you listening, Jason? Yeah, no, I, I, I, I was, I was just

Speaker 3 highlighting what William

Speaker 3 Jesus' son. I said that to you before when I saw you in Jesus' son, I was like, oh my God.
But so, so good. And,

Speaker 3 you know, you've been so good on so many things over everything over the years. And you were just one of those guys that also

Speaker 3 you feel like we're always rooting for it. Like you just wanted good things to happen to you because you're a great guy.
But one of the things that you and I have talked about

Speaker 3 many times, Billy, no, it's not a butt. It's in addition to that, is

Speaker 3 as you're a guy who did one of the great voiceover campaigns

Speaker 3 of all time. Really priceless.
Just priceless.

Speaker 3 MasterCard, when you go, going to the movies, whatever, $5.

Speaker 3 Getting a ride home in the next video. That was you.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Having a night that you remember forever, priceless. Priceless.
Wait, what? There's something human money can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard.
That's the tagline. No way.

Speaker 3 I didn't know that. That was him for a long time.
That's not exactly how it went, Will. Yeah,

Speaker 3 let's let the guy do it, Will. Yeah, here we go.
Here we go. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 microphone, $2,450.

Speaker 3 New computer, $1,600.

Speaker 3 One hour of Smartless,

Speaker 3 priceless.

Speaker 3 There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's Bastard Card.
Baster card.

Speaker 3 Bastard card.

Speaker 3 That's crazy. I didn't didn't know that was.

Speaker 3 It was an iconic

Speaker 3 campaign. Will and I had it in common because he's been doing, obviously, every other voiceover that has been available.
Yes, everything.

Speaker 3 And Billy, Billy, as a guy, as a voiceover guy back in the day,

Speaker 3 when there weren't as many people doing it at the time, you did that for a long time. I forget how many years ago.
13 years, yeah. 13 years.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I remember how it was very singular. It was, you know, when that commercial came on and that voice, and it was different than, I think, all the other stuff beforehand.
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 It was a game changer. Yeah.
What a great campaign. I don't know what it was about it.
You know, sometimes we get lucky and stuff. I think all of you guys know, especially you, Jason.

Speaker 3 A lot of luck is a big part of a career.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was in the right place at the right time. I actually,

Speaker 3 I did,

Speaker 3 I did a session recording for this woman who produced, you know,

Speaker 3 her ad agency obviously was looking for a contract. We did one for champion.
And I just did it for the session fee. She goes, We're going to try to do it for MasterCard, $250 session fee.

Speaker 3 Why don't you come in and do it? And then she called me a little later. She said, we won the campaign and they listened.
And they said, can you just use the voice that you used in the,

Speaker 3 and I was kind of like, ah, all right. I mean,

Speaker 3 how many of these are we going to do? And then by the third year, I'm like, can we please never stop this? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Locked into it.
Well, you know what it is? It's the stability of the salary.

Speaker 3 So even if it's 10 grand just knowing that you're going to get 10 grand that year um there's a it it helps with a lot of the uh nervous anxiety in a in a young career but as will well knows you start to get good enough at it that you can roll in and do 10 or 15 of them in 20 minutes and well will does it from home yeah i i mean he's been voting in from home for a while

Speaker 3 jesus christ screwed up you know what? I tell you this.

Speaker 3 I did say to him this summer, we were talking because, you know, John does the, as we all know, he does the Mercedes. And he's like, I go,

Speaker 3 Johnny Hamm. Johnny Hammer.

Speaker 3 How long have you been doing that? And he goes,

Speaker 3 he goes,

Speaker 3 13 years. And I go, oh, that's cute.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? That's cute. Has he been doing it for 13 years? Yeah.
Yeah, he has. What in the now? What's your longest one, Will? I mean, you've been doing

Speaker 3 GMC for 60 years, right? GMC's, I mean,

Speaker 3 this year it'll be 25 years. That's not true.
25 years. That's a true story.
Yeah. That's amazing.
Are you kidding me? No, at the end of this year, it'll be 25 years. I've been the voice of Jesus.

Speaker 3 Is there a better thing in the world? I mean, no, it's the greatest. But you know what, though? It is cool.
It is cool knowing you, Will.

Speaker 3 And every time that Reese's thing comes, I was like, oh my God, there's Will. It's like.

Speaker 3 It's a fun thing, but I will say that, you know, in the 90s, Billy, when you were doing that, and the reason I brought it up, because, yeah, for me as well,

Speaker 3 as a young actor who was like living paycheck to paycheck, when I would get voiceover gigs, it meant that

Speaker 3 I didn't have to go and do other jobs. And I could rely on that.
So you'd have time to, so you could audition for everything else.

Speaker 3 Because if you got a job working somewhere else, then it was always complicated trying to, you know, audition. And all I did was audition because I wasn't getting a lot of parts.

Speaker 3 I was only getting auditions. I think it's disgusting the way you guys are talking about your clients is just some sort of like, you know, know, job security.

Speaker 3 You know, when I talk about Hyundai, well, when I talk about Hyundai, I'm doing it because it's an incredible vehicle. Okay.

Speaker 3 It's everything you want in the mirage. Okay.

Speaker 3 I don't do it for money. I don't do it for the fame.
Oh, they hurt that. You don't do it for money, huh? No.

Speaker 3 I enjoy the money, please. But I don't do it for the money.
I do it because I believe. I stand corrected.
You are absolutely right. Hyundai.
It's your journey, guys.

Speaker 3 Jesus.

Speaker 3 Is that the tag? I believe it is. I believe it is.
Boy.

Speaker 3 Really, really resonates.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 well, listen, only one company can be professional grade. The other one can supply a journey.
Huh?

Speaker 3 That's true. That's true.

Speaker 3 I drive an Audi. Oh, beep, beep.
We can tell. We can tell.

Speaker 3 Okay. That's the tag, which Jason just goes.
I just go beep, beep. Sean, you should have said, I drive an Audi through my gate at the end of my driveway.

Speaker 3 Don't you have an innie? I drive an Audi, but I have an innie.

Speaker 3 All right, so

Speaker 3 that goes on a campaign.

Speaker 3 Billy, God, Billy, you've just done, you've just done it all, and now it's full circle. And now

Speaker 3 you, you and Thoreau have been friends for a long time.

Speaker 3 True story. We did a very, very sleepy production of the three sisters, the

Speaker 3 anton chekhov yes of course

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 3 at um

Speaker 3 the roundabout theater company oh we had uh amy amy irving gene triplehorn and lily taylor as the sisters david stratherin hell of a cat love that gene triplehorn jerry stiller was in that production no jerry

Speaker 3 um yeah and giamatti what and i love giamati giamati is what a jam act dude i mean i don't know him but what a great actor he's fantastic you've been close with Thoreau since then. How did you do it?

Speaker 3 Since then, and then we lived next door to each other when we were on Washington Square Park. He was two doors down from me.
And so we used to, back in the days when we smoked cigarettes.

Speaker 3 Tell me if this is true. And I heard that you had to move because of the paparazzi, that he was calling, that he was calling to come because he would call and go, hey, I'm home, guys.

Speaker 3 I'm about to go out. Right? Is that true?

Speaker 3 That is true. And then they would treat me my tank top.
They'd start taking pictures.

Speaker 3 I'd put on my messenger bag. I'd get on my

Speaker 3 stunt double agent. I'll be stepping out in three, two, one.

Speaker 3 If you can get me as soon as I get on the bike, as my leg is going over the bike,

Speaker 3 that's why I moved.

Speaker 3 That's why he moved.

Speaker 3 God, remember how quickly Thoreau gave up smoking? He was really quick on it, wasn't he? Wait, what?

Speaker 3 I don't remember that. Yeah, he quit smoking.
smoking yeah he just dropped well i put them down 200

Speaker 3 eight i want to say and then he just like one day he was we have a friend that did uh uh uh hypnosis and that worked no more smoking yeah the hypnosis has worked for a friend of mine too yeah yeah i just stopped but i mean justin is putting a hurden on the uh nicarad industry he never he never stopped he and another good friend of ours uh never stopped chewing the gum and they are fucking crazy yeah they just drop those little turds all over the place they give me anxiety.

Speaker 3 They give me anxiety and sort of, I don't know. So you just stuck with the cigarettes well.
Right. I think go back to the smokes movie.
I'm not a doctor. Well, listen to this.

Speaker 3 I'm glad you say it. I say it all the time.
I'm not a doctor

Speaker 3 that I'm not a doctor.

Speaker 3 But I will say, I tried to do one of those,

Speaker 3 you know, the vape thing for a minute. That gave me anxiety too.
It made me feel like shit.

Speaker 3 Thoreau, by the way, let's be honest, Thoreau likes to get into the little jewelry type things too. Okay.
Wow, he's chewing the guns. He's got one of those.
He's taking a lot of fire on this episode.

Speaker 3 I know he's got one of them on his face. Well, we haven't lobbed any grenades his way in a while, so it's about time that he took some.
We've lobbed about 25 today. Wake up, JT.

Speaker 3 Oh, boy. All right,

Speaker 3 this is enough. We've taken up enough of your time.
You probably got to

Speaker 3 do a re-record on Hypochondriac, probably maybe, you know, do some pickups on that.

Speaker 3 I think we got everything we needed on that. You guys can let me know.

Speaker 3 If I'm the gang over at MasterCard, I'm thinking, I'm hearing this. I'm going, and I'm a new young executive.
I don't know about the history and go fire up. I still fucking got it.

Speaker 3 And they love reboots and remakes. I'd be like, let's get Kudup in here.
Fucking. That's a great point.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. And why haven't Aline and Jimmy thought about that?

Speaker 3 Maybe just the MasterCard folks just need your number. Give them your cell phone roll number.
Let's just get the

Speaker 3 credit card number.

Speaker 3 917. It's 800.

Speaker 3 Yep. Wow, he's still on the 800.
Over.

Speaker 3 God.

Speaker 3 Sounds. I missed a couple.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, listen, William, guys, it's been a pleasure. It's been such a pleasure.
It's been mine. No, mine.
You know, I've enjoyed this more than anyone.

Speaker 3 We all see each other for dinner from time to time, and this is nice to just kind of see each other on this.

Speaker 3 I know.

Speaker 3 Let's go. Let's do.
Let's go, the four of us, out to dinner one. This is a safe space, right? Come on, Jason.
You do. Let's go.
Right? Let's go. Billy, what a delight.

Speaker 3 Listen, having you on the program here today, and let me know about it. Guys, this just started, right? This Smartlist thing.
How long has this been going on? Great rehearsal.

Speaker 3 Let's go ahead and roll, guys. Rob Bennett.
I mean, what episode am I? Am I top 10? I mean, am I

Speaker 3 chronological? We're going to cut it together and we'll see if it's really erroneous. How many of these have you done? Probably.
150. Bennett, how many episodes there were? Like 137.
137. 137.
40.

Speaker 3 140. Because

Speaker 3 I've, you know, been around. Is there a number you would like to be? Because it's a long time ago.

Speaker 3 You were busy memorizing

Speaker 3 dialogue, and we didn't want to interrupt. So let me think about that dinner.
Yeah. Oh, fuck.
This just took a turn.

Speaker 3 I'll see what kind of texts I get from Marnette over the next 24 hours and see if we can make this shit happen.

Speaker 3 Billy, we love you. Billy, we love you.
We do love you.

Speaker 3 Love you guys. Stop working so far.
So hard promoting Hello Tomorrow. Hello Tomorrow.
Hello Tomorrow. Hello Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 If you like MasterCard, you'll love Hello Tomorrow. Watching Hello Tomorrow with your friends? Priceless.
There you go. There are some things money can't buy for everything else.
I can't wait, Billy.

Speaker 3 That sounds like everything I'm for that show. I can't wait.
Excellent. I hope you enjoy.
There's some sci-fi in it. You'll like that.

Speaker 3 That's why I'm going to tune in. Yes.
Yes. All right.
Good afternoon. All right, guys.
Mean it. Bye, Billy.
Bye. Love you guys.
Bye. Bye, bye, bye.
Bye. Oh, bye.

Speaker 3 Jay, when did you ask him to be on? Like, Billy's so great.

Speaker 3 I can't remember when. If I'm Billy, I'm mad at you.

Speaker 3 Wait, no, oh, really? Like Krasinski mad? Hey, you know, that was inexcusable. What part? What are you talking about? Was it Will took 136 episodes before he invited John Krasinski on? Oh, I know.

Speaker 3 Like, we're not friends with him or something.

Speaker 3 God. I know.

Speaker 3 Fuck off.

Speaker 3 No, that Billy crude up. I kept trying to figure out a joke to turn his last name into Crudete somehow.
Crude up. Or crude up.
Like, he's a real crude up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Boy, I'm glad you did. Yeah, just to have it.
Yeah, it would have been a real side slapper. Oh, man.
Is that what it is? Or no, knee slapper. But one of those actors that

Speaker 3 one of the sort of things about being a wordsmith is you have to know words.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 But Billy's one of those actors that's been in like a million things and he holds

Speaker 3 all been great and he's never sucked and never

Speaker 3 sucked.

Speaker 3 He's the kind of thing, well, like if you see his name in a cast, you're like, oh, this is

Speaker 3 a high-quality project. That's exactly right.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's so good and he's so sweet and he's so handsome and he's just got it all and he's handsome. Hey, hey, hey, hey, really handsome.
Hey, man. Sorry.

Speaker 3 I'm going to take a shower or something. Sorry.
You know what, though?

Speaker 3 I can't wait to see his new show, Hello Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 I wonder what the sequel would be.

Speaker 3 It's Hello Tomorrow. And then maybe would it be

Speaker 3 Don't Go Up High. Don't Go Up High.

Speaker 3 And then don't repeat it three times. Bye tomorrow.
Bye tomorrow. Bye, bye.
Bye tomorrow.

Speaker 3 Bye tomorrow. Hello tomorrow.
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