SmartLess

"Bradley Cooper"

June 13, 2022 1h 1m Episode 100
Grab your Pepcid AC; it’s time for a spicy-hot Episode 100 of SmartLess. Come laugh and cry with us, as we wet the reed and snap with both hands for our special guest, Mr. Bradley Cooper. Shabbat shalom and good yontif.

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Welcome to the 100th episode of Smartless.

I am your new host, Bradley Cooper.

The other guys have, they resign.

They just asked for too much money.

No, I'm just kidding.

These guys are going to be right up.

Here's a new episode of Smartless.

Smart.

Less.

Smart.

Less.

Smart. Less.
Smart.

Less.

Sean, I just wanted to ask you about...

Happy 100th episode, by the way.

Oh, thank you.

This is the 100th episode?

Congrats, fellas.

This is the 100th episode.

Happy 100.

Wait a minute.

This is our 100th episode?

This is our 100th episode.

What is that? That's crazy.

What is that?

That's not...

Isn't 50 is gold, right?

What's the golden...

25 is...

I guess there isn't a 100th anniversary

because you'd be dead.

25 is silver.

Yeah, there's no 100.

There's no 100th anniversary.

Who's married for a 100?

Well, it'd be platinum.

I think it would be platinum, wouldn't it?

Well, I think 75th is diamond.

Okay.

75th is diamond.

Okay. Let's is diamond.
Okay.

Let's look it up.

Has anybody been married 100 years?

Well, I know a couple who it feels like 100.

Oh, no.

Is it you?

What?

No.

How dare you?

It says, I Googled it.

It says, what is the 100th anniversary?

Color is purple.

Ideas is, you could do a photo spread. You could do historical games.
Wait, what site is that, weirdo? Google. Google.
It's not Google is not giving it to you. They've routed you to some other third-party aftermarket site.
But let's not get past the headline here, our own pathetic internal headline. 100.
100 means that we've done two years of shows, right? Can you believe that anybody would want to listen to us for a minute? Let's take a second here and thank that single listener we have out there. Mr.
or Mrs., thank you for, you know, making it seem to yourself like listening to us three morons talk for an hour qualifies as entertainment. But please don't stop because we like doing it.
Doesn't it feel like a week? It does feel like a week. You sounded like, but doesn't it seem like...
Like Jiminy Glick? Doesn't it seem like... It does seem like Jiminy Glick.
We've talked to a hundred people. JB, did you play golf today on your 100th? No, I just woke up late and I couldn't wash my hair.
I've even gone to, I'm on Amanda's computer. I don't have my glasses on.
Walk us through. Look at this, what's going on.
If you could smell me right now. When are you going to cut the hair? Oh my God, it's so hot.
I'm kind of loving the hair these days. I got to say the other day, I really loved it.
It was coming out every side of your visor. I don't.

I don't like it. And why do I listen

to my wife about the length of my hair?

Can't I just keep it short and dorky

and dumb and

square and... No, don't

worry. You look dumb and square a lot of the time.

You son of a... By the

way, the thing about Jason is,

I think everybody knows, Sean, you and everybody

knows him knows, the one truth actually doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

Wow.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

What is it?

It sounded like it might be a compliment, so continue?

It doesn't matter.

Well, what?

No, I'm not going to get it because it's not fair.

We all know this, but we're not going to say it to him and forget it.

It doesn't matter.

All right.

Well, you want to talk about it?

Fucking hook, line, and sinker.

There is no thing.

That was a test, but I was going to say, Sean, I just want to say this.

I want to tell a true story that happened the last couple days, and this is Jason, and I love him so much. We're playing golf against these guys, and if you understand golf, and if you're bored, you know, go wash the dishes for a second or turn.
Sean, not you, not you. By the way, we're just trying to stay connected to the people, by the way.

When we're out there playing golf, we're just trying to keep it real.

We're just out there.

We're playing with randos.

We're going out to the public course,

and we're just picking up a couple of randos,

and we're saying, come hit with us.

That's how much it's got to.

Anyway, these guys, Jason and I are playing against these guys,

and they're crushing us on the front nine.

They're beating us.

I'm all over the place.

I'm playing terrible.

Jason's not playing.

He's pretty great, but he's not playing his normal great. And so after nine holes, they're beating us.
On the back nine, totally different. And you don't know these guys.
We barely know. We sort of know one of the guys.
We know one of the guys. The other guy, we don't know.
On the back nine, we start to come back and there's one hole left and we're walking from the 17th green to the 18th tee, and we have a chance to eradicate the loss.

And Jason goes, all we got to do, they're up ahead of us.

I don't speak like a dude from Bayonne when I want to get down to business.

All we got to do is we got to get a nice piece of sausage.

A piece of salmon.

Get some sausage.

No, he says, all we got to do is we got to win this hole.

He goes, I'm telling you, man, if we beat these guys, they should kill themselves.

What's that? It's for salmon. Get some sausage.
No, he says, all we got to do is we got to win this hole. And he goes, I'm telling you, man, if we beat these guys, they should kill themselves.
What is this, the karate kid? And I go, kill themselves. I go, take your foot off the gas, man.
Yeah. It's Wednesday, okay? They should kill themselves.
I was trying. I had to get myself up.

He went so psycho, Sean.

I believe it.

It was crazy. That's where my wars are fought.

You know, it's out there.

You take it really seriously.

Listen, we've come,

we're at 100 episodes.

I also want to just say this

because this is the last time

we're going to say it

because the next time

we record an episode

we're not going to be able

to say this.

In four days,

it's Will Arnett's birthday. Speaking of 100, Will, you look great.
It's a century. You're a century years old.
Oh, happy birthday, Will. We love you.
Sweet, sweet, Willie. How old are you going to be? Let's go.
I'm going to be 52. I'm going me Google it.
I'm going to be 52. So we know that this is recorded before my birthday, and very generously, our friend is having a nice dinner, birthday dinner for us tonight and the kids.
And I'm generously showing up. And I too am.
And I'm so excited to see you guys. I know, I'm too.
I haven't seen you guys in so long. I know, because you were in Chicago, and I've been in Atlanta.
I've seen Jason, you know Jason when he suggested those guys kill themselves. But I'm really excited.
What do you hope to get for your birthday? Yeah. I mean, I know it doesn't really matter about gifts once you get past about 12.
Oh, God. I don't even think of.
Are you looking for anything? No. I don't ever expect to get a gift.
You think you're going to get anything from your boys? I hope they get like a nice picture or like a poem or something.

They're able to, they're both really good.

They're really nice that way.

That would be redundant because I wrote you a poem.

Honestly, what are the odds of them writing you a poem?

I don't know.

I'm just really excited to, I don't know.

I'm just excited to see you guys and have all the people I love and around.

I don't know. It's going to be super fun.
I hope you cry tonight. That's going to be my goal is to get you to cry tonight, which might mean I might stand up and do a toast, which I can't.
I hate doing. I love it.
Nothing makes me more nervous than giving a toast. That's why you got to do it.
Is that true? Yeah. I could give me anything in front of the camera or whatever is fine, but making a toast or speech in front of yeah i i could give me i'd anything in front of the camera or whatever is fine but making a toast or speech in front of a bunch of people on stage when we did the tour on in front of a an auditorium full of people on stage with a spotlight is the most nerve-wracking thing but you were great you were great yeah you couldn't tell you were but you know i mean i, I've got acting skills.
I know how to bury the sweat.

You just don't like it.

But I just don't like it.

But especially not a toast.

I just feel like such a beach bag.

I can't wait for tonight.

I can't wait.

Expecting people to stop what you're doing

and listen to me as I hold up a glass.

It's the most arrogant thing ever, I think.

Nothing I love more.

No, but it's nice.

It's nice.

We're going to do it tonight.

We're going to do it tonight.

We're all going to toast each other. My toast is going to be, here's to Jason's toast, and then I'm going to force you to go.
Oh, and pass it on. That's nice.
Jason, you just don't, it's tough for you to connect on that emotional level. And I think that if you just connect to the feeling and forget what you have to say, nobody's judging you, and just connect to the feeling for once.
Could you imagine what a breakthrough that would be? Guess what? That's what you're going to get tonight. We're going to reference this tonight.
Great. And then I'm going to stumble my way through it.
I can't wait. And you're going to pick me up with a nice big joke at the end.
I am not going to break eye contact with you either. I am not breaking eye contact.
No matter what. Speaking of eye contact, our guest.
An ophthalmologist. Is someone, if you make eye contact, if you happen to get locked into this person's gaze.
Oh, boy. This is our hundredth episode guest.
Let me tell you something. Well, this better be fucking good.
And this is somebody that we've all locked. This better be good.
This is somebody we've all locked the gaze with. This is a real slot.
But not just us. The world has locked the gaze, and he is locked in on the world.
He has made a connection, a contact. Mike Tyson.
That is just, that is tough to be broken. Okay.
But this is somebody that we've been in contact with for a long time. The three of us are friends with this person.
This person is a friend of the show. This person is a friend of ours.
This person has seven more Academy Award nominations than the three of us.

Combined.

Which means that he has seven.

I don't know anyone that has seven.

Seven nominations.

I know this person.

Four for acting and three for like.

I'm getting nervous.

I'm getting nervous.

And directing.

I know.

And all of the above.

This is a person that we all adore. This is a person who's been part of our lives for a long time, that we've been on a journey with for a long time.
He can't fix my hair. He has single-handedly just absolutely done incredible things over the last 15 years, but he's always been an incredible person.
But on top of it, he's just an incredible guy. I don't want to talk about his work accolades because I want to talk about how much we love this person.
I can't wait to bring them in for our 100th episode. I have brought our dear friend, Mr.
Bradley Cooper. Holy crap.
For the 100th episode, it's Mr. Cooper.
Bradley, Mr. Cooper.
It couldn't be more fitting. It couldn't be more fitting.
Damn, that's good. That's really good.
And Bradley combed his hair today. I've admired Will for so long.
Honestly, you were talking, I was getting so excited that you were talking about me. What a nice bait and switch, though.
I can't believe he's talking about me. He's actually saying these things about me.
We used to share an apartment to best. I was like, does he ever even think about me? I love you.
Do you remember the apartment? You guys all remember the apartment. Remember we used to play cards downstairs in that apartment? What was the actor's name that lived below you? Ron Rifkin.
Ron Rifkin. And his wife, Isla, lived in the front.
Now, Bradley, you know, I thought this is, I would have never guessed because I thought we used all the favor you would give us by you making that cameo on the live version. I thought I used it up.
So when Will texted me, I was so excited because I thought that you guys had no more interest. No, people don't know, but you joined us on the tour socially backstage.
We were all hanging out for a long time. It was so fucking fun.
And you came on only briefly, so you haven't really done an episode. So this is great.
Now we get a full 60 minutes. Yes.
Although we have cut into your time a little bit. We've cut into your time.
Oh, boy. We always cut into people's time with our garbage.
No, that's the best part of the show. Wait, Bradley, are you in the middle of it? Bradley, what's your middle name? Oh.
Oh, God. And then Sean's going to go color.
I'm going to give a little history. Can I give a little history? Can I go history? Bradley, you go.
Because for everybody that knows the show, you know, I've had the great fortune to know all of these guys separately for about 20 years each. Yeah, that's crazy.
And in each one of their circles, they have always been the funniest person in the room, and everybody knows it. And I'll go as far as to say that Will's probably always been the king of every room combined.
That's literally what everybody's always said. It can't be Will.
Everyone's playing for the silver. So for all these guys to be together, and I said this on stage too, but I finally, like what I've been able to be a benefactor of, now everybody gets to as well.
And that's part of why it's so successful. But the other thing was like you have this way of talking, Jason, and the first like, I don't know, 15 years I knew you, I was always like, oh, he's fucking with me.
What's your middle name, Bradley? No, Bradley, what's your middle name? Like, I give a fuck what your answer is. I'm just looking for a way to demolish you.
So every time I'm like, oh, I don't know, Jason. It's Charlie.
It's Charles Cooper based on my dad who died. Are you going to make fun of that? Well, you know, I do.
Are you going to hit me there, Jason? I do admit that I sound and act a lot shittier than I really am. That is true.
By the way, can I say that? So that was the first 15 years. I'd say the last five years I've come to realize that Jason is really kind of a wonderful human being.
I'm not the asshole you thought I was. Or that everybody thinks I was.
But there is something about the tone, the prosody one could say of the way you speak. I'm just kidding.
I'm, I see, Will and I. Sean, can I get an amen here or am I crazy? You could get five amens.
You can get a shit girl shit. Will and I saw some time on the documentary, the behind the scenes special that we shot of this tour thing.
Yeah, Bradley, which you're in. You know when Sam was shooting that thing, right? Yeah, of course.
And so Will and I saw a couple hours of it. And I said to Will yesterday, right before I said that golfers should kill themselves, that I said, I think I'm just such an asshole on that thing.
Don't I seem like a real person? He's like, no, man, me. I think I'm just a crabby.
By the way, and this is why you were like, Sean, why didn't you come? I didn't want to go through this. Like, I don't want to like.
Well, let me tell you something, sunshine. You couldn't be sweeter.
You couldn't be nice. You look, you come off looking like.
When you're the prick. Yeah.
You're the mother. You're so happy-go-lucky.
Hey, guys, I don't mind. Turn the cameras off.
First of all, the first 20 minutes, we talk about food. Oh, my God, it's hilarious.
It's nothing but food. And what we kept in was, because Jason keeps bringing it up.
Bradley, you love this. What Sam kept in was me finally going to Jason, you're going to watch this, and you're going to see how obsessed with food you are, and you're going to be so ashamed at your fucking neuroses.
It's so true, though. It's not true, but you're not an asshole.
I'm an asshole, because anytime anybody says anything, I just, like, hammer them. But wait a minute.
I hope everybody knows that we all love each other, and that's why we can get after each other like brothers. Of course.
Bradley, you're obsessed with food. Jason's not the only one.
Oh, look who's here. It's Bradley.
Right? Because you are... Your body is insane.
What? My body? Your body's insane. You're always in such fucking great shape.
Always. Oh, that's not Sean.
That is just incorrect. Oh, my God.
That is an incorrect statement. No, it's not.
No, it's pretty close to the truth. I literally was just at the rehearsal today with all these dancers because we're doing this part of the movie.

I'm about to start a movie,

so we're in prep.

Bradley's playing Leonard Bernstein

and it's going to be...

I was watching the playback

and I was like,

I look like a fucking

like a wrestler.

My shoulders...

I was like,

how is this...

Dude, what are we going to do?

It's like all these

beautiful bodies.

This is fucking me

like dancing

like I got fucking

lead on my feet.

But by the way,

you are like... You know, I thought...
You know when you see somebody who's like super fucking talented, super fucking nice, super fucking handsome, and then you see them do another thing really well, and you're like, oh, my God, life's not fair. Every time you dance on something, it's incredible.
Like, I can't. I actually do love to dance.
That was like the one thing bar mitzvahs. I couldn't wait for the bar mitzvah.
That was all my time for women to get women's attention. I'm not kidding.
I'm like, let's get on the dance floor. Shabbat shalom.
Good yontif. Good yontif.
Good yontif. But I will say this.
I mean, Bradley, dancing or whatever it is, when you did Star is Born, I had this like Bradley and I had this surreal moment years ago. Oh, that was amazing.
Remember that? I was at CinemaCon. CinemaCon.
yeah. And I got to introduce Bradley Cummins.
He was showing a trailer for his movie. And he had just directed this huge, and written this, and in this movie, and produced.
And we stood there on this stage with the whole audience and watched it. And it was so surreal.
We both had tears in our eyes. It was unbelievable.
Yeah, we were back crying. It was great.
You had that, like, and you had to host this whole thing, which was nuts. And you had this, like, did you have a white suit on? Am I crazy? It was like, it was so surreal we both had tears in our eyes yeah we were crying it's great you had that like remember you and you were and you had to host this whole thing which was nuts and you had this like did you have a white suit on am i crazy thing it was like it was like i think that's right like this like like really like cool suit on and you were sweating like like you were like i mean you were working your ass off dude yeah yeah i was working my ass off it was fucking crazy it was like elvis and ve like literally it felt like vegas because that that that cinema con stadium is very vertical.
Remember? It's like, there's not much depth. It feels like you're in the Thunderdome.
I looked like I had just eaten a million fried banana sandwiches, too. I looked so huge at the time.
I was a dump. Tan as fuck, too.
I remember that. Tan as fuck.
Bradley, is Leonard Bernstein dancing in this movie? No. Yeah.
Yes. Well, I don't want to give up, but there is this sort of magical moment.
But tell people, I don't know if you heard me, Bradley's written, directed, and starring again in a movie. This time he's playing Leonard Bernstein.
I'm so excited. It's a movie about marriage.
It's not a biopic. But yes, yeah, I do play Leonard Bernstein.
Yeah. Yeah.
We started shooting May 21st. We just got back from Massachusetts yesterday.
We drove there. That's so exciting.
I can't wait. Yeah, I have to say, you know, it's been four and a half years in the making, and I feel very grateful.
I feel so grateful. This has been such a labor of love for you, man, and you have put in the work, and you've gone through so many stages of shooting pieces and developing it and writing it and researching it and learning.
And Jason was kind enough to sit through a lot of the test proofs that I showed you, remember? I love that. That was one of those times as I walked back in my car, I'm like, oh, he's just ripping me apart.
No. Are you out of your mind? You see me trying to pretend that I was like giving him that? I could sit there for 40 years and watch what you did, talk about, you know how I dork out on all that stuff.
But I'm so like could have picked anything to do a with your first film you could have taken a much smaller bite but no the huge scope and the scale of that thing with a big huge co-star and and a re and a remake of like a beloved yeah and now you're going to move into this epic about a beloved american icon and and going into like makeup, a little bit of prosthetics maybe, or like, no, a lot. I mean, he's 25 to, uh, to, till he's 69.
It's just, you're not phoning this in. I'm no different than all of you.
I mean, Sean, Sean, you're just Oscar Levant. I mean, you've created this whole entire world, Jason and, and Will, you've been, you, you've forged your own path that no one could even compare

with, so everybody's done what they love.

It's just the truth.

I don't know if I could play below 30 anymore.

I don't even know.

Well, you need the prosthetics.

Yeah, probably. Below 30?

If I had to dip below 30? Probably.

I said that Bradley, because Bradley's playing

Leonard Bernstein, and he's gay.

Well, part of his life he was gay.

And I said, you're going to be making out with dudes? Is this the bottom part? Holding for a laugh and rejoining. Which part? You waited.
I said you're going to be making out. You waited.
He just went, bam. I'm going to wait.
I'm going to stay back here in the five-yard line i could see it my man's gonna get open okay do you have to make out with dudes in the movie and everything and he said yeah and i go look i can run lines with you if you want um did uh was so was there nothing that was right for sean in the film I mean, yeah. You know who's in the movie, Sean?

Who's in the movie?

Scott Ellis.

Huge. Is there nothing that was right for Sean in the film? I mean.
Yeah. You know who's in the movie, Sean? Who's in the movie? Scott Ellis.
Huge part. No way.
You're joking. I'm not joking.
Yeah. Scott Ellis, the director of theater on the Broadway.
No way. Yeah, he's perfect for this role.
I asked him to do it. He said, yes, we just closed the deal today.
I'm so excited. That's so exciting.
That's great. That's cool.
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I was going to go back to something Jason said about choosing a star. I want to get, thank you for talking about me, but I do just, I just feel like I want to educate the audience about you guys.
So let me know when you're done. They're so sick and tired of us, Bradley.
I don't think, no, they just know like the stuff about the kids and like the other stuff. But like, guess what? Anyone who clicked on this said, oh, Bradley, this's a Bradley episode.
We want to listen. It's okay.
It's all about you right now. Fuck.
Bradley has nine nominations. I fucked up.
Whoa. Academy Award nominations? Come on, Will.
Yeah, nine, motherfucker. What, did you just finally click on Wikipedia? Yeah, just finally.
So I was at this party. I was at this party.
I mean, I know Will's like this. You know, I never forget anything anybody mean has ever said, right? It's like cataloged.
I can tell I know exactly where I was. What are you talking about? And if they challenge the verbiage, the sentence structure, I'm like, no, bro, it's not what you said.
I'll never forget. I was like, you know, the CAA party like four years ago.
I remember at that time it was like seven nominations, which is crazy. I mean, it's nuts.
And everybody's like, huh? It's crazy. But this director guy, I'm standing next to a woman

who's a dear friend who's an actress, and he

goes, how many do you have?

And I was like, oh, yeah, seven.

How many do you have? Three. What world

are we living in where you

have seven nominations?

What? She's only got three. What is

wrong that you... And I remember I was like,

I fucking hate this business.

No way. Oh, I'll never forget it.
I remember, and I remember and i'm looking i'm like bro why are you such an asshole i would never fucking forget that fuck yourself i would make it a point to fucking crush that person and then the first time first time i was nominated never forget this i'm at that same party this 2011 nominee with daniel day fucking lewis right it was crazy and denzel washington i I couldn't believe it right I'm like levitating and uh this like hero female actress that I didn't know at all comes up to me she goes I think will you know this story she's like I saw your movie uh-oh you deserve the nom woof I was like what I'm sorry what the nom and then 20 minutes later, I'm not kidding. I pass her like going to the bathroom.
And she mouths it. The nom.
Wait, why was she trying to keep you down? Meaning like don't win. You're never going to win.
Why was she trying to keep you down? I don't know, dude. But I remember like, what the fuck is this town? Because people are fucked up, man.
Because it's all, most of the time when you encounter people,

I would say like 80% of interactions have to do with them.

It's got nothing to do with you.

You know what?

You know what?

You're 100% right.

Well, anytime anybody says anything negative,

it's about their self-hatred.

But could you imagine saying that to somebody?

I mean, like, you've got to be fucked up to do that.

No?

Yeah, here's where I'm gonna push back, Jason.

It's kind of what you were saying before

about feeling like you're an asshole.

None of us in here would ever actually

actually say something like that.

I will bust somebody's balls.

Well, funny though, Sean, 2012, we were at...

Oh, boy.

Play the tape.

Funny you should say that, Will.

Thank you.

We were at Victor Garber's on Sunset Plaza. It was 8.30.
We just had the tuna. I'm trying.
This smells like your career. Yeah.
Although I will say, you know, coming up in like 1999, 2000, and the comedians that were very popular back then, mean humor was the thing. Right.
And being an insecure person, you know, I was like, and I knew because of Amy, I got to know Will and all that circle and then doing Wedding Crashers, got to know those guys, right? So just around like, and seeing like, oh, and I remember there was a good like year where all I did was try to access mean humor only out of insecurity in hopes that people would think I'm funny and I still remember doing this like tv show um it's so embarrassing and like really hurting people's feelings only trying to mimic people that I thought were funny and Will do you remember this and I'll never forget man um we were living next to each other and Will came into where i was living and uh and he's like hey man we had dinner the night before i know you're not supposed to cry on the show sorry this is pretty emotional i'm not crying but um uh you're crying i'm not crying you're crying um no but i'll never i'll never forget it because will who you know can be mean but it's you know there no ill will. It's just like if you know each other, you feel safe the way we do.
But I didn't know Will that well then. And he was like, hey, man, do you remember we had dinner the other night? He goes, how did you think that went? And I was like, and I remember being at the dinner thinking I was so funny.
And I thought these two guys who were my heroes were so, thought that I was so funny. I don't know if you remember this, Will.
And you're like, I was like, oh, I thought it was great. I thought I was killing it.
He goes, hey, man, you were, and Will, or Annette, he's like, you were a real asshole, man. You were a real asshole.
And I was like, what? He's like, yeah. And by the way, have your dogs gone out to the bathroom? And I was like, what? What time is it? It's four o'clock.
Oh, no. I think they have to go to the bathroom.
They're literally standing by the door. And that was like the first time I ever realized I had a problem with drugs and alcohol.

And it was Will saying that to me.

And I'll just never forget it.

And I was like, oh, the guy that I think is doing mean humor is telling me like the truth about that.

And it was like it changed my entire life.

And that moment was when I stopped pursuing this sort of mean humor thing.

Wow. Yeah.
Do you remember that, Will? I stopped pursuing this sort of mean humor thing wow because I heard yeah I'll never forget do you remember that will I do remember that yeah wow wow thanks for sharing that Bradley that's yeah that's amazing and Bradley was it was it was it because you were trying to quote fit in and that's yeah of course I mean zero self-esteem uh you know zero and thinking like oh here's something like my brain works fast oh i can be i can be mean to people right if i'm like finding the holes and i can and then and then you realize that it's not mean it's just a sense it's a type of humor it's a sense of comedy kind of like don rickles was the king well actually i would argue that like i mean it's tricky that's a tricky conversation but i didn't i was so starving that it didn't that I was hurting people. I didn't even think that I was because I didn't think I was powerful enough to hurt anybody anyway.
So I never thought it was really hurting anybody because how could I if I'm worthless, right? So there was sort of the pre of that. So we had another friend.
And you and I had done not long before that. We both just randomly, had to do a photo shoot at the same studio.
Do you remember that? I forget what it was for, but anyway. And you were, there were a bunch of other people there we were doing in different stages in Hollywood, like on Formosa or something.
And you were kind of going through that stage where you were just being very aggressive. And, you know, and you were funny, but you were also like sometimes like really hardcore.
And it was like, whoa, man. And I remember thinking, and then that night was kind of that moment where I was like, and the truth was, I remember at that time being at that stage and this buddy who was there saying like, wow, I feel really bad.
Bradley's been coming on been coming on really strong and i go i think that it's okay i think he's just trying to fuck around and it's okay and then that happened with our other friend and i just remember thinking that's always a tricky thing but i just remember thinking you know i i love you and wanted you to be okay you know what mean? And I knew that you weren't feeling great about stuff. Was that the moment, Bradley, that you just described or was there something even more significant that clicked in your brain that says, oh, shit, I really have to look at myself and maybe take a left-hand turn? Well, I was so lost, I was so lost.
I was so lost. And I was, uh, you had a weird, you had, I was so, and I was addicted to cocaine, you know, that was the other thing.
And you injured your, remember you injured your leg. Oh yeah.
Severed my Achilles tendon right after I got fired slash quit alias. And that, you know, it was like, it was, it was, you know, people say, you know, success will show you who you are.
You know, it will bring out, it'll surface who you are because what it triggers is usually a pretty permissive environment around you. So, you know, you don't, you can drop whatever artifice you've been using heretofore, right? So what's great about your incredible level of success is that it did

the opposite of what is kind of traditional and cliche in this business where, you know, the more famous and rich you are, the bigger prick you are. It allowed you to be as kind and vulnerable and human as you innately are with no fear of that being misinterpreted.

I've talked about before about how Ron Howard is sort of this great North Star for me with that. Like he doesn't ever worry about anybody thinking that he's too eager to talk to them or too eager for a job when he walks into a room all smiles and chatty, you know, because he doesn't need it.
You are the same way. And it's allowed you to be what is universally agreed upon.
Uh, as far as your reputation goes, your attention to, uh, your coworkers, irrespective of the position that they hold on the set. Um, it's just, it's, I think it's an incredibly admirable thing and you can't hide from that any longer.
But I will say this. I did have the benefit of that happening when I was 29, and I definitely would not— I mean, I thought I made it when I got a Wendy's commercial, and I called my dad saying, you know, I'm in a hotel that has a window that opens, and it's paying for it.
So, I mean, in terms of the made it thing, that's when I made it. But I definitely did not feel moving to Los Angeles for Alias, feeling like I was back in high school, couldn't get in at any clubs, like no girls wanted to really look at me.
It was like, what? I mean, totally depressed, you know. So at 29, it wasn't until really Hangover.
I was 36 when I did the Hangover. So I got to go through all of those things before fame even played into my existence on a daily level.
So all that happened before any of that. Which makes you so appreciative of where you are now.
Yeah, and then it's just like, that's like, oh, it's an element. It has nothing to do with anything.
Well, I was going to say, so that's what I was going to say, Jason, because Jason has made that point before, but I agree with Bradley. Bradley, you actually went through this metamorphosis before hangover, like you said, before all this stuff.
And having those realizations and having that change allowed you, that's what opened you up and allowed you to be you and allowed you to be. It's true.
What is, when you say that, what do you mean? Just going through all those things, and even though, again, still working on self-esteem up until a year ago, and still do, but I definitely made major breakthroughs, 29 to 32, 33, 34, where at least I was able to stand in front of somebody and breathe and listen and talk. By touching bottom? Was touching bottom one of the things that allowed you to kind of push off? Oh, I mean, that was the, of course.
That's a game Scotty and I play. Touching bottoms.
Yeah, I was going to say, Sean, touching bottoms for you. No, it was different than that, Sean.
It was different than that. Started as a board game.
It probably was. I can't relate.
I can't relate. Probably was.
But the fact that Will, they call it your Eskimo. will is the reason um the he took that risk of having that hard conversation with me uh in like july of 2004 um that that that put me on a path of uh deciding to change my life and it is truly will arnett he is the reason and there's nobody else i'm not the reason no No, no.
You're the reason that I was like, oh. And it helped that it was the guy that I thought I was emulating.
Do you understand what I'm saying? It's not like somebody else said it. Like the king told me.
That was the thing that was so crazy. I'm like, wait.
The king came down to tell you that what you're doing is not what you really should be doing or what's right or who you even are. I was just going to ask the simple question of how did you learn esteem then? How did you get it back or discover it? Was there a specific moment or was it a gradual, you know, increase over of events that led you to go, okay, I can, it's okay to like myself.
It's not a selfish thing to like myself and all of those kinds of things. I mean, I don't know about all of you, but it's a lifelong exploration.
I definitely felt like it occurs and has occurred in increments. It started out by my relationships to men.
I think I would always idolize male figures and then have them fall off the pedestal because I created something that wasn't even, you know, one couldn't live up to. Then in one's art, I think that was sort of the second thing, to be okay to feel comfortable in the things I want to create and having a voice.
And then just intimacy, the hardest intimacy. And quite honestly, it hasn't been until about a year and a half ago that I decided, like, I'm just at sea and I love so much of my life, but I'm so lost, and it wasn't to, you know, working with a new therapist, and quite honestly, like, today, I can sit in front of you saying I actually do have self-esteem that's not related to any outside thing, and I didn't have that for 46 years, so it's taken me quite a long time to do that.
That's great. Can I just say, Bradley, there is such a difference.
You know, we had the benefit over the last couple months. We were in New York and stuff and hanging out for the most we've hung out in a number of years.
Yeah. And it has been awesome seeing you in this place and seeing you comfortable.
Nothing has made me happier. Just even hanging out at the house with Leah and just seeing you be you and making food and I honest to God dude I was like now I'm gonna cry I I it's made me happy to see you so happy with who you are and you and I talked last year I called you do you remember this and i said um i had a moment last year where i was like i was so fucked up about like who i was and relationships and all this stuff and i had this moment i told bradley i woke up and i went to make coffee and i went holy shit it's me it's not everybody else it's me in that moment i talked I talked to Bradley, and Bradley bradley was like yes he was in the same spot and we talked about it we talked about this guy and he turned me on to this thing and it's been unbelievable anyway i'm really happy for you man jesus christ you guys you guys are awesome yeah i mean um is can you i've loved myself since the time i got out of the womb i got shot shot out loving the shit out of myself.
You're like, I cannot relate to any of this. Nobody can believe that you love yourself.
How could you possibly love yourself? Can you guys attribute any of this kind of newfound peace and centeredness and all that stuff to, is there a correlation to having your children and trying to provide them some guidance early on that perhaps you may have missed or didn't see coming? Or is that, I'm sure it's all part of it and it wouldn't be just the only thing, but I know you're both incredible dads. So I'm, I'm, that's, that's why I asked.
I mean, fatherhood is, um, I mean, everything changed. So the answer is absolutely yes.
Along with like, you know, how I drink water. I mean, it's like, you know, every single thing is absolutely shaded by, or, um, brought out in glorious colors by the fact that I get to um be a father to a wonderful human being i mean it's just the absolute greatest thing and and i think it really in regards to the work we do i was literally talking about this a couple days ago and um thinking about you know you have this wonderful thing or a breakthrough with the script right or you're like oh my, oh my gosh, this person, and you have a wonderful moment on a set or a wonderful moment in the editing room.
You have like 40 of those moments every day with your kid that are that level of joy. So it's like the idea, I mean, and that's just, that's not spinning it.
That is just the truth. Yeah.
You know? I was, like, Lee looked at me the other day, and it was like, this is kind of crude, so I'm probably, but like, you know, after she goes to the toilet, the way she sits there waiting for me to wipe her butt and it's like, I'm watching this again and she's like, okay, daddy. And I'm just like, this is the greatest moment of my life right now.
This is the fucking, this is the best moment of my life right now. I mean, it's just crazy.
Scotty and I were walking down the street in Chicago

and we saw this one woman carrying

like maybe a five-year-old kid in her hands.

So he's kind of a big kid.

And his shoe fell off and she was pissed.

She was walking like 50 miles an hour.

And then 20 steps behind was the husband

with two other kids in there.

Everybody's screaming and crying.

And I turned to Scotty and I go,

we both looked at each other. We like thank god like that we i have to say that is not my experience you know not only is that not my experience the other thing that's not people keep saying it flies by and i'm like i guess so i have not experienced that i feel like i have changed 20 000 diapers it's like groundhog day it's like things couldn't progress more, you know, faster.
It's hysterical. Yeah, there's fast parts and slow parts, but at least the reason I asked that question earlier is I did find for me that one of the things it does do is it accelerates your work on yourself because you want to not infect them with the crap you don't have yet figured out.
Yes, 100%. Yeah, of course, there's that saying that this guy says like you don't i don't want my kids to have to recover from their childhood yeah yeah oh i love that or recover from your childhood yeah or from mine but certainly from theirs and you know real quick sorry to interrupt just real quick on that self-esteem thing i do think a key element that i've discovered is i found myself saying telling me and myself and others a narrative about certain things, my childhood, my relationship to my parents, like this thing, press play.
I'm a kid from Philly. I got a chip on my shoulder.
It's like, ah, you know, I'm always going to look up. It's a, you know, whatever it is.
And eventually you're like, actually, what is the truth? Like, what was my childhood like? And the minute I actually had a real assessment of my childhood, my upbringing, then I had a foundation to work off of. Without the foundation, it is, I think, impossible, literally impossible to build self-esteem because you're building on something that's fabricated.
Because you chose not to acknowledge your childhood, you didn't remember it, or why? No, I remembered it. It was shaped by whatever insecurity or however I learned how to survive, I thought, in this world, right? I created a narrative that allowed me to survive in the way that I could.
But the older you get, the more narrow that your life becomes because you're not really living your true life because it's not even based on reality.

And it's really popular to keep telling a story.

Whatever story you're telling about yourself

is the way that your life is going to go.

And what you got to do is start to change the story.

It's like, you know, there's this idea

that anytime you take a memory out and look at it,

you change it every time and you put it back

and you change it.

So whatever you have happening now, Sean, it kind of goes to what you're saying. If you're not feeling good about yourself and then you take that memory out, you affect it.
And you go, well, this is what happened. Well, that's actually kind of what you're saying, Billy.
That's not what happened. And what you're doing is you've been telling yourself this fucked up story long and it starts to get worse.
And so the gap between what happened and what actually happened and what is,

that gap gets wider and wider,

and there's more and more pain in there when you do that.

Stolen election.

Anyway, so...

Oh, you won't stop.

Sean, Jesus, we're not going to check

the fucking voting machines again.

Sean, real quick, January 6th, where were you?

Real quick.

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And now, back to the show. Well, I wanted to ask a question about an hour ago about your career give it go ahead just get it over with no i just always wanted to know i've never asked you i can't believe i never asked you i'm sure you got this in the press junket and everything but i don't know the answer why did you pick a star is born to's point, way, way earlier when it was done, I don't know, two, three times before, and weren't you scared to take on such a massive, iconic kind of thing? I'm sorry to ask such a dumb question.
Because it does put a target on it. I mean, it takes a lot of guts to do that.
Yeah, and I know you've been asked that, I'm sure, a million times, but I've never asked you that. Well, I mean, as Jason knows, you can't really choose what it is is going to motivate you to do all that work that it fucking takes to write and direct something.
And it's just sort of, you know, I always deep down thought maybe I could, like, play a rock star. Only because I thought I could crush air guitar, you know, as Will knows.
So much so, but I'm so crazy about, sure that I went on Jimmy Fallon and I asked, I said, can I do an air guitar just to see if I believed it? Right. I'm not kidding.
So I went on The Tonight Show and I said, can I do Down by the River by Neil Young? And I did it. And I looked and I was like, yeah, I think I'll buy that.
Okay, I'll do a Starz board. That's hysterical.

That's fucking hysterical. I'm not kidding, dude.

I'm like, I think I could pull this off.

I wasn't sure before, but I think maybe I could pull this off.

I'm going to use the Tonight Show as a workshop.

Have you seen Arnett do air bass?

Oh, God, yeah.

Are you kidding?

Night Court?

Come on, Night Court?

Oh, yeah.

And then he goes right into Law and Order.

Law and Order.

Law and Order.

No, but I thought you did Night Court, too, didn't you? I've done Night Court. You know, the best, one of the best air guitarists of all time is John Glazer.
But we, I went, yeah, we did air guitar with Conan and I threw him the flute in the Law & Order's team song. And then Conan started doing the fucking, no, the clarinet.
The air clarinet. So you had to wet the reed, wet the reed, wet the reed.
Wait, so now I have another thing. So A Star Is Born and then Leonard Bernstein.
What is the music thing? When did the music love start? So the truth is A Star Is Born, I wanted to tell a love story. I always thought, like, that seemed moving to me.
That's what I, and then I thought, well, there's no better way. As you know, Sean, is like, you can't you can't hide when you sing I mean you literally cannot hide it's impossible because your voice is the instrument and it has to be loose for the chords to vibrate and if you're tense or you're stuck it's not gonna work so I thought gosh if I could like marry that in a way that would be that would be awesome and so that's how that sort of started and that was a property that was around Warner Brothers and Clint Eastwood was going to do it and he asked me, but I didn't think I could play Jackson Maine.
I hadn't done American Sniper yet. I hadn't done Elephant Man.
And I honestly thought that I would be acting. I was like, I just don't know enough, honestly, about life and shit.
I don't think I could play this guy. And then once I thought I could play it, he didn't want to do it.
And then I thought, well, you know what? I'm 40. All the directors I admire, they don't really want me to do their movies.
So what am I going to do? And all I want to do is be at the center of the creative experience. I'm going to have to fucking do it myself.
Wait a second. You say that the directors you admire want you to do their movies.
I mean, that's just the truth. Look, I had in no way.
Look, I've had an incredible opportunity to work with great directors, but, you know, like the Coen brothers, Martin Scorsese, Paul Thomas Sanders, David Fincher, you know, the list goes on and on. We, I just couldn't, you know, be in any of those guys' movies.
Catherine Bigelow. So, so, and I was 40 and I was like, I just spent a decade on the road, basically.
And, and had like, you know, two or three experiences where, you know, it took, it took like a pound of flesh out of me because I am so invested in the projects I do. And I felt like I wasn't working with people that I really wanted to work with to grow and get better.
And it was like, I'm 40. I want a kid.
I want to slow down and I want to do stuff that I really care about. And that's what started that.
So, so, so now that you're doing Bernstein... And that was another thing.
I always wanted to be a conductor, honestly. Like, since I was a kid, Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, you know, and then spending hundreds of hours by myself as a kid pretending I could conduct, like air guitar.
And then this project was around. I had just finished The Star is Born, and I thought, gosh, let me research Leonard Bernstein if I feel like there's a story in there that i could commit four and a half years to because i don't know how to do it any without any with shorter time uh may can i write it and do it and then that's how that started and i and i just did all this research about this incredible family the bernsteins and felicia montalegre his wife fascinating, fascinating.
Their relationship, fascinating.

The kids.

And how articulate they are about their feelings.

There's the movie.

A movie about marriage, a movie about family.

That's it.

And why is it nuclear?

Because it's this fucking music that is just, you know, music is nuclear.

I had a secret weapon in A Star Is Born.

It was Lady Gaga.

The secret weapon I have in this movie is fucking Leonard Bernstein and Guststein and gustav mauler that music and and but but what is the connect what is your connection with music like did you i don't remember you singing bradley before i never sang no no yeah so when you were like singing the thing i'm like wait bradley's singing all these songs but i will i worked my ass off i know i obviously i mean but again i thought maybe i could sing but you know i work really hard because we did everything live. We sang everything live.
Dude, it's incredible that you did it. It's fucking nuts.
It's fucking crazy. Yeah.
Look at Jason. Jason couldn't do anything.
No, no. If you ask him right now to do something.
I can't even do my hair. Jason, do something.
He's the most gorgeous man in the world. Look at him.
Look at him. He's so gorgeous.
Look at him snap. Both hands.
Same time. And talk.
And talk. What about...
Where does the uh i know this is kind of a trite question um i'm sure you've answered this one a bunch of times too but the passion between acting and directing they're completely different in their creative agendas endeavors and goals one is a bit more singular and uh and the other one is a bit more sort of global with multiple departments.

And you're – anyway, where do those two things balance for you and sit?

You know, I'm not going to say which do you like more, but what type of mood are you in when you gravitate more towards one versus the other?

The truth is it's always been the same thing.

It's never been different.

Whether it was being on Alias and asking for everybody's dailies on VHS tapes that I would watch at home and sit in the editing room every time I wasn't on set, because really all I did was do three scenes and ask Sidney Bristow how her trip was and make popcorn. So I wasn't doing anything.
But I learned I was fascinated about the process of making cinema, and it's always been that. And so it's never really changed, and I don't even see it as two separate things, Jason.
It's all part of the same thing. But the answer is there's nothing I enjoy more artistically than doing the things that you and I've talked about a lot, which is, you know, having an idea, exploring it, writing it, and then asking a group of people that you admire and inspire you to come help you do it and create it and put it out in the world.
It's the greatest gift ever. There's nothing better.
There's just nothing better. Yeah.
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Well, now a word from our sponsors. Yeah, I was just going to say, let's go from that to, I think you told this, Bradley, I was just thinking, he's talking about the 10 years of being on the road, and I was thinking about the Hangover movies.

I mean, you went and you did, like, we're not even mentioning the fact that you were in three of the top-grossing...

Can I show you this real quick?

Can I show you guys this real quick?

So I haven't talked to Ed and Zach together in years, and my daughter woke up this morning.

If I play this, can I play it?

So this is my daughter this morning.

Who that daughter is? woke up this morning. If Iover 4, let's do it.

Because remember

Who Let the Dogs Out?

That's like the thing

of us walking down the hall.

Dude,

that's amazing.

Did she get that

from watching the movie

or how did she know that?

Yeah,

I show it to her.

We watch it every Friday night.

Sure, yeah.

She's four years old.

Yeah,

way to go, Sean.

She's watching

fucking Hangover

already coming.

Oh my God.

You know what?

I'm glad you didn't have kids.

I'm glad you didn't have kids. And now I get why your father left, too.
Listen. Oh, Jesus.
Here we go. We're going to get real.
So, guys, mean humor. Here's the thing about mean humor.
Mean humor is a thing. Somebody at Franny's school, I guess, said to her that they liked horrible bosses or something.
So she says she wanted to watch it. So I started watching with Franny the other night and my 10-year-old.
So Franny's 15, Maple's 10. And we're five seconds

into the movie and Aniston

is talking about breaking her

finger, fingering herself to

Penn Badgley watching

CW. I thought, whoa, whoa!

I totally forgot how

inappropriate it was. And it's just like

you gotta be careful.

I know. I'm not very good at that, I have to say.

If you ask my daughter,

like,

White Lotus,

she'll go,

the guy who pooped

in the suitcase.

But she is not yet

watching Hangover,

right?

Bradley,

when you're knees deep

in a movie like this

that you're working on,

Oh, good,

in a movie.

No,

it's just that could have

gone either

in any direction.

Do you,

are you,

do you have

any kind of

other project

that you can think about

or any kind of

Thank you. Just that could have gone either any direction.
Do you have any kind of other project that you can think about or any kind of thing that you're thinking beyond that? Are you all in 24 hours a day on this one thing? And I can't imagine you can focus on it. I think every experience is different.
But I will say this. The last month, I have not been sleeping.
I really have not been able to sleep. I keep playing the movie in my head and uh and i have like uh acid reflex which i've never had i've like you know pepsi ac by the bedside now lenny lenny couldn't lenny was an insomniac and and there's actually a scene in the movie where where julia vega who was there with him for the whole life like wipes the thumbs off his face so i don't know what's happening but this one i have to say has uh me pretty possessed oh you have time to do anything stupid on the weekends or late at night is that and then being a dad it's literally that yeah yeah and leah's mother's incredible and but we share custody but when i have her you know it's just me and leah and um and thank god here's another thing about being sober and having humility is like i realized i can't do this movie and take care of it without any help.
So literally tonight, like minutes away, someone is coming that's going to stay in New York and help out until the end of the shoot, which I never would have done. But thank goodness I'm doing it.
I know, which is amazing you've never done. You're an incredible dad in that way.
Jason said it before, but we've all gotten to witness it. But only selfishly because of those things about the 40 moments of life moment.
I just love it. I don't want any moment that I could be with her not to be with her.
Yeah, for sure. That's why later she'll be like, Dad, you never were apart.
You stuck to me all the time. No, but I thought it was a good thing.
I know. It's why I'm fucked up, Dad.
That connection, no, that connection's in... Too much love.
Jason, your kid's name's quick. Three, two, one.
See, this is what I'm talking about. No, you guys are both great dads.
And yeah, you're right. You don't want to...
And it's not even that you don't want your kids to say that later. You just don't want to not do it now.
You don't want to miss it. I just enjoy it.
It's really... Of course.
I just enjoy hanging with her. I just love it.
Yeah. her i just love it yeah yeah same is that a picture of the elephant man behind you yeah there he is you you in that play was one of the best performances i've ever seen in my whole life oh man yeah at the booth theater right yes where it originated yeah so crazy i'm so sick that i didn.
That was so good. You know what I noticed? Bradley, every single night, correct me if I'm wrong,

but what I noticed is you-

You're wrong.

Oh, you mean about this story.

Okay.

You had, as your performance as The Elephant Man,

on your hand, you had a rubber band around your hand, right?

No.

No, no.

I did this thing that I used to do as a kid,

you know, that I'm sure you guys did.

Oh, you did that, and you just held it there the whole time? Hold the fingers over each other yeah yeah so you i thought you had a rubber band around your hand fingers but didn't you i think i remember you telling me that your back was all fucked oh yeah man not only that the left side of my face got larger than the right and my right hand because we did 365 performances and my right hand actually started to like have issues Yeah. Now, have you done theater since then? I have not, unfortunately.

And I, yeah, which sucks because I do, it's one of those things where it's the hardest thing, it's the most rewarding, and it's the most monotonous thing. It's like, it's all these things, right? And time consuming too, right? Yeah, but the monotony of it, and you're like, oh my God.
And then you're like, oh, it's kind of great. Oh, Jesus.
Oh, I kind of love it. I hope to do it right after right after maestro actually maybe williamstown because then it's a five-week thing bam you're in and out oh yeah that'd be good i remember there's nothing like being on stage i mean it's the greatest thing in the world what was the one you did before that uh three days i mean even right what'd you think of the tour i mean even the energy of the tour though right when you guys were there i mean i love it it's there's nothing like it there's funny though, Will, you're like, I got this crazy idea.
We're all talking about it, about doing this thing. Man, I think it sounds great, Will.
Cut to, this is the 100th episode. What? What the fuck? It's really ridiculous.
Dude, it was like a second ago, you're like, wait, this crazy thing, we're gonna do it. By the way, we couldn't have had the more perfect 100th guest.
I know. It really truly is.
It's perfection. It makes sense because we're all family.
About 50 times I've forgotten that we're doing the podcast right now. Me too.
I fucking totally forgot. I know.
You know? It's so nice. Yeah, Bradley, man.
I'm so glad that you're on this 100th episode with us. You're such a big part of all of our lives.
Yeah, for sure. And we love you, man.
And just keep fucking doing it. Keep reaching.
I don't think I'd ever say this earnestly to anybody, but keep fucking reaching for, you know, the stars and hitting for outside of the park and taking big swings. It's fucking awesome and inspiring.
Oh, inspiring. Just love you, dude.
Love you, Brandon. I love you guys love you guys really it really is it's very exciting to watch you go yeah oh man thank you and we wish you were here tonight I know I was listening and I thought oh fuck I wish I was there man I know when does the movie come out ish like the end of this year Jason will give a toast in your name please yeah It won't come out until the fall of 23, I think.

Okay.

Holy shit.

You're shooting the whole thing out in New York?

No, no.

We start in Massachusetts, then we're in New York, East Hampton,

and then we take a break, and then we go to Italy for three weeks,

and then we end in London.

And the last day, the last two days,

our Mahler's resurrection at Ely Cathedral.

I don't know if you know.

It's one of the large Gothic cathedrals in the world.

Live, conducting it with 180 chorus,

74 orchestra,

the soprano, mezzo-soprano, who we just cast

these incredible singers. I mean, it's going to be...

I can't even...

Bradley, I'm so friggin' excited.

Who knows if it'll work? Because we're going to do it live.

It either works or it doesn't.

Just taking on the scope and the scale

and just the logistics of it alone. You know? It's impressive.
I just couldn't admire you more. No, it's amazing.
And just to have that kind of, that ambition. Speaking of, Jason did, you know, he's going to tee off tomorrow and he's going to play 18.
And then he's going to do a six-mile run on a treadmill. I mean, that's ambition, too.
And I might have hit half a bucket of balls after, too. You know what I mean? That's ambition as well.
It's a lot. And Sean...
You never played golf back in the day, right? This is relatively new, right, Jason? Well, no, I started when I was 18, but then I stopped for a long time. Wow, I felt like when we first met, you were not, like, Will was obsessed with golf and you didn't play.
Is that not true? I think I had stopped for a while. Then Will got me back in during COVID.
By the way, real quick, the best thing in this, I think, in this smartest thing is that, like, who was the guest? And he's like, Jason, didn't you win that, like, Formula One race? And you're like, yeah, yeah, I did. Like, what? No, he's one of the...
It was a cheesy celebrity race. It wasn't Formula One.
Talking about an assassin guy who could do anything. No, but it's true.
Jason, please. It's like, just admit your power.
So so it's true it's like dude he fucking won

a Formula One race

it wasn't Formula One

Bradley

not only did he do that

it was the Long Beach

Grand Prix thing

and he did that

it was crazy

you won the whole thing

no he won

and then recently

we were talking about

a golf tournament

we were talking about

a different golf tournament

and he goes

the Bob Hope or whatever

he goes yeah I won that

twice out in the district

what do you mean

you won it

what are you talking about

I know

what are you talking

this is Bradley's time. It's really true.
Sean got, right, you got longest, you got the best customer ever at Shakey's Pizza. Whatever it was.
Right? A million miler, they said. A million miles of pizza.
You ate a million miles of pizza. Just as aggressive as it.
Oh, man. Bradley, you get fired and get out of here and come hang out.
Come on. That's enough already.
He'd have to fire himself. Bradley, thank you, man.
We love you. Thank you, everybody.
Love you, pal. Love you, buddy.
Guys. Thank you, buddy.
Thank you for this. Love you.
What an honor. Thank you.
Love you. Bye, buddy.
Great. Perfect guest for 100 episodes.
And like I said at the end, he feels like family. So it was a perfect idea.

I know. I know.
That's what I thought. I thought, you know, we need to have somebody that we all know and that there's history and family and that we hadn't had on.
And of course, it was wild that we hadn't had Bradley. We had him on the tour, but you know.
And just so generous to be so honest and open with knowing that it ain't just us three, you know, kicking around and old times.

I love chit-chats like that because how many people that helps, how many people relate to it. If you're having similar issues that you can relate to somebody even like Bradley Cooper who's going through the same thing as anybody else.
So it normalizes it. And so you-

It's a constant process.

But it's the ability

to actually connect with yourself

and be able to go.

And Bradley has,

and I mean it,

and you guys have noticed it too.

We talked about,

you know,

he has done a lot of work

and he's, you know,

and we know other people

have too in our lives

and we have members

of our family

and ourselves

who we talk about

these things all the time

about being in touch with where we're at and what's going on and being honest with yourself. What's great is Bradley.
And self-aware. Yeah, and that self-awareness comes from being honest about where you're at.
And, you know, I think that I love that stuff. I can talk all day about the, you know, the idea of whatever it is you are, whatever story it is you decide to tell about yourself.
Fucking people love getting hung up on their story.

They love it, they love it, they love it.

And it's the whole idea and they go,

and also like that goes for the future too.

If you're talking about, well, you know,

shit's going to be really hard,

then shit's going to be really hard.

And it's all you can decide.

And for more information, check out my Instagram stories.

Yeah, sorry.

I forgot to keep driving people to your socials.

If you want to see Sean and Scotty high in their living room dancing to commercials. Look, that's the story we tell ourselves.
That's the story we're telling. Sean and Scotty on a gummy.
The way we did last night. I know you did.
But truly, this 100 thing is a real... I'm surprised every time that we have a podcast I'm like oh there's a podcast tomorrow I can't believe we do a podcast I hope I never get used to it because it stays as soon as it's like oh yeah that's so great we get to go do that so thank you everybody for letting do this.
Like not only do we get to connect with our friends like Bradley, but we get to meet new people that we don't know and we get to kind of pick their brain and hopefully we're asking some of the questions you want asked and you keep listening. We'll keep doing it.
Yes. It means just the world to us.
So thank you. Thank you for listening.

Thank you for being there.

And I'm so grateful that you give us the opportunity to do it.

So thank you.

A big, genuine, sincere thank you.

Thank you, thank you, thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

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