"Craig Robinson"

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Speaker 1 All right, we have a special guest here introing the show today.

Speaker 1 Right, Craig? Yes, welcome to the show, everybody.

Speaker 1 Wait, hang on a second. Before you go, just welcome to Smartless.
Enjoy yourself. I don't know.
Okay, so welcome to Smartless.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was good. But again, Craig, it doesn't seem like you're really welcoming me.

Speaker 1 Hey, how are your kids, Will?

Speaker 1 They're really good.

Speaker 1 When's the last time you saw them? What month are we?

Speaker 1 waiting by the way we're still craig we're still doing the intro so just say welcome to smartlist hi welcome to smartlist smart

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Speaker 1 hi

Speaker 1 there's everybody hi sean hi guys

Speaker 1 listener Listener, Sean is busy doing incredible work in Chicago per a very nice very tough to please critic apparently Sean's got a very nice review that's very nice in the Chicago Tribune.

Speaker 1 We're all very nice and When do we get to when do we get to see it? Should we do you want people coming out to Chicago to see it or do you want us to wait till New York or do you want to see it? Oh,

Speaker 1 you don't even here's the other thing. You don't even have to see it because here's why I want to.

Speaker 1 I don't I'm not a I'm not a huge fan of when other friends are like you've got to see my movie oh you gotta see

Speaker 1 no you're not that guy yeah so I really truly uh don't well can I ask can I suggest this is there a world where when you're done and you come back home that we just do a dinner with our usual crew and then Sean we have you kind of like a salon we'll have you stand up and just do some choice monologues or you can do the whole thing

Speaker 1 with vlogs that would be great but just privately so it's just us I I could do like a speed line through. Speed through would be great.

Speaker 1 And maybe just, I mean, not too much blocking, like a little bit so we get a sense of the space, obviously. And Will, can I double back to your use of the word salon?

Speaker 1 Did you throw a salon in there? I sure did.

Speaker 1 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Well, look it up.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm familiar with a salon wall. A salon wall is the wall with a bunch of pictures all put next to one another that form a larger singular square.
Is that right?

Speaker 1 I think it is. Well, did you get a haircut? I I did yeah you got a body a body cut too and a fat face cut too you look great man

Speaker 1 what happened

Speaker 1 are you sick

Speaker 1 from your face thank you I love it when people say you say thank you so much you know what's so crazy so when I go to the theater I have to have a COVID test every week right sure and so still and so I missed this one day So they said, oh, well, you have to just go to one of these like free clinic places.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I Google it.
It says, you can come in for, you know, just like walk in. You don't have to make an appointment.
So I walk in, and I'm not kidding, you guys. There's nobody there.

Speaker 1 And the woman standing right when you walk in, goes, do you have an appointment?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 And she goes,

Speaker 1 you have to make an appointment. I go, but it said walk in.
She goes, yeah, but you still have to make one. So you can go back outside and scan the little digital thing on your phone.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I go, you're joking me right now. She goes, no.
I go, you want me to walk outside? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I walk out. I go, watch this.
And I looked at her through the glass, through the door. Never, never broke eye contact.

Speaker 1 This sounds like a real Bateman.

Speaker 1 I was so angry. I just

Speaker 1 pictured a thing and I'm filling it out, just giving her evil looks. While I'm filling this out, I log in all my information.
I walk in. She goes, can I help you?

Speaker 1 I go, yeah.

Speaker 1 She wasn't even kidding. And she goes, do you have an appointment? Was it Edie McClerrick from Embarrass Bewley? I go, wait, this is not.

Speaker 1 This is like a joke. So she goes, yeah, I have an appointment.
She goes, right over here to a line that doesn't exist. And then this guy at the front desk, he's like, do you have an appointment?

Speaker 1 I go, yes, I do. She's like, great.
And then he tells me to go wait in this other line. There's no line.
It's just a thing to go get tested. How good.

Speaker 1 And then you go outside and you look up at the, when you finally leave, you look up and you look back at the place and you look at the sign and it says, Kafka COVID tests.

Speaker 1 Kafka. Wow.
How have you guys been? What's new? It's been a minute since we've all been hanging out. I know.
I know. you guys were so kind to

Speaker 1 let us all take a couple weeks off while I was in tech for Tracy tech is when

Speaker 1 you light the whole play and you're don't be short with don't be testy with Tracy right then like you're exhausted to have to tell her what tech is you're like Tracy is

Speaker 1 technical

Speaker 1 anyway so thank you guys so that's why we haven't seen each other in a while sorry I just want to go this is a little off topic but Jake you've gone back to uh penis hair oh I know remember when Jimmy said the top of your hair looked

Speaker 1 at the miat? He did leave a mark. Yeah.
It's

Speaker 1 so, listener,

Speaker 1 what happens?

Speaker 1 What are you doing? If there's a direct part right in the middle. Well, it's a double cowlick.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm not upstairs styling that and creating a double cowlick. But yeah, it is

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 those familiar with the circumcised. It does look like a cow licked it twice.
Yeah. There's a well, I'm assuming what Jimmy meant when he said penis hair.
Do you think he was talking about

Speaker 1 because listener, we've got a double calic here, right? So we've got a cascade on one side and another one on the, like an M. They got it.
Okay. They got it.
They got it. Okay.

Speaker 1 So what do you, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 All they got to do is look at what they're talking about. There's a lot of parts.
Let me finish. I'm on something really crass here.
Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 What part of the penis, there's so many parts of the penis that could be this. I'm going to say penis one more time.
No, no.

Speaker 1 If they look at the art right now to the podcast that they're listening to, they can see what we're talking about. Look, either way, you look like a dickhead.

Speaker 1 Here we go, guys. Listen.
Listen. We've got to get to it because...

Speaker 1 I know it's so bad.

Speaker 1 I tell you what's so good, though, is

Speaker 1 our guest today. Boy, they're not going to like this segue right off the...

Speaker 1 They're going to like it just fine. They're going to like it just fine because our guest is a very, very funny person.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 knows what it's like to be very funny all the time and likes to laugh.

Speaker 1 And that's because our friend, our guest today, has participated in so many comedic films and TV shows, it's almost pointless to name them all. It's almost funny.

Speaker 1 But you, you see, Jason, you might know him. You might know him from the office.

Speaker 1 You might know him from

Speaker 1 what else you might know him from. Mr.
Correll. Is it Mr.
Core? Hang on a second. Hang on a second.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm working my way there. So you might know him from the office.
You might know him from Brooklyn 99.

Speaker 1 You might know him from

Speaker 1 Pineapple Express. You might know him from any one of these movies.
You might know him from his new show, Killing It on Peacock.

Speaker 1 And Sean, you just might know him from college because it's none other than Craig Robinson. Oh, my God, Sean.

Speaker 1 There he is. Oh, look at him.
He's got a picture of himself, puff. He's got a painting of himself behind him.
Oh, listener, we have a two-shot.

Speaker 1 Craig Robinson, well, listen, first of all, how crazy is this to be on here with Sean? So walk us through this a little bit, Craig. I know, Craig's so sick of me too.

Speaker 1 Every time I see Craig, I tell him the same goddamn thing. He's like, Yeah, Sean, when are you going to drop it? It's enough.
But for Tracy, who doesn't know, or other

Speaker 1 people,

Speaker 1 or these guys? So, Craig, well, you tell it if you want. We went to college together, we were both piano majors at Illinois State University.
Well, let him tell it. Now, you're telling it again.

Speaker 1 We went to college together, and we were both piano majors at Illinois State University,

Speaker 1 Sean and I.

Speaker 1 I mean, down to we were in the same classroom,

Speaker 1 and Sean was making everybody laugh well but especially when we just be in the back just

Speaker 1 quiet not supposed to talk that was that was the best yeah now craig are are you as uh um impressive as sean is uh on the oh craig's amazing piano a thousand percent less impressive sean is no super genius but you are a major um like uh you don't just major in piano playing without being somewhat impressive i mean i i do my thing but no no sean will sean could sit down and and play with the orchestra.

Speaker 1 I could sit down and play with a gospel choir. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 Still, that's what

Speaker 1 I was doing. That's very impressive.
I'm more by ear. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that song you wrote, Someone's Fucking My Lady? Someone's fucking my lady.

Speaker 1 My girl. Remember that?

Speaker 1 Donkey style. Of course.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, is that, did you perform that with the,

Speaker 1 when you used to do that, you and Jerry Minor used to do that thing together?

Speaker 1 Absolutely. And you would perform that, and then it would be revealed that it was him who was fucking your lady? No, no, no.
Jerry would be Jerry's El Witherspoon and Chucky.

Speaker 1 I played Chucky, and Jerry,

Speaker 1 and El Witherspoon would be like, you know, I don't mean to be suspicious, but last night, when my woman come home. So he's assuming somebody's fucking his lady.
So he sings about it.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, somebody's fucking your lady.

Speaker 1 Somebody's fucking your girl. And then in the middle of the song, he's like, Chucky,

Speaker 1 I found a piece of paper in my woman's pants pocket. I'm like, what did it say? He says, it's a phone number.

Speaker 1 And I said, call it. And so

Speaker 1 he's like, it's ringing. So, you know, it's back and forth.
And then the phone rings, and I answer the phone. He's like, are you fucking my land? Yes, I'm fucking yo.

Speaker 1 And, you know, Jerry explained this to me. Jerry Minor.

Speaker 1 What's up, brother?

Speaker 1 He was like, he told me the concept.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we were, it was i i cracked up i think it was based on a on the r kelly and uh

Speaker 1 r kelly would have ron isley in his videos as mr big so it's kind of based on that it was such a genius jerry told me a lot even long before that he said i'm gonna make you famous Here's my Craig Robinson journey.

Speaker 1 I want to hear you chime in. So we met in college.
We were music majors in college. Then we started dancing to Janet Jackson in the hallways.

Speaker 1 We would dance Rhythm Nation with each other. And then

Speaker 1 we were in the... The new number was supposed to come out, by the way.

Speaker 1 We would, we would do. We would do five, four, three, two, one.
Who do you think led that charge? I'm going to give you one guess.

Speaker 1 And then, and then one of the funniest things, I was in a play called Love for Love by William Coz. Sure.

Speaker 1 No, no, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah.
It was a restoration comedy. And Craig was my understudy.
So in the play, I had like one scene, and I had to play the harpsichord.

Speaker 1 And as my understudy, he had had to wear a powdered wig and like a whole regalia like the 17th century it was

Speaker 1 i can't even remember that i wrote a song and craig sang it now um sean is busy using uh a lot of this uh a lot of this education and talent uh craig when's the last time you really put your musical degree to work Oh, two nights ago.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah, you're always playing out, aren't you? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I play play and sing in my comedy act.

Speaker 1 Yeah? You got very serious when you said that. It's a serious act.
Yeah. Where is the act currently? And can we go see it? I'll be at the Laugh Factory this evening.

Speaker 1 Here in Los Angeles? Here in Los Angeles. Oh, wow.
At the late show. So, boom, you're on the list.
Just like. What time does that start? 9.30.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jason's, he's two hours into the heavy, the heavy gummy. The second gummy, which is...
you don't want me behind a wheel by 9:30.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, May 4 at the Chubador, Craig Robinson and the Nasty Delicious. And you will get to see my master's degree on.
I would love to see that.

Speaker 1 And that's my birthday. Come on.
May the 4th be with you.

Speaker 1 What's nice?

Speaker 1 What's the Nasty Delicious? That's a multi-member band? Yes. There are nine of us.
Let me see if I can. Nine? Yeah, yeah.
Because I got the horn section, including Reggie Hines, Winston,

Speaker 1 Winston Bird, and Lakeisha Benjamin. These are all, and then my drummer's Asa Watkins.
Sure. Ben Giolantis, my conga player, and then David Sampson on guitar.

Speaker 1 And then my brother, Chris Robb, on key synthesizer, and several of us do voice. That's great.
Your actual brother. My actual brother.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, wait, Craig, I'm just going to back up for two seconds. I also remember.

Speaker 1 You called me at my mom's house in Glen Ellen, Illinois, when you saw me in a McDonald's commercial, and you were still a teacher, I think. And you're like, how did you do that? I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 You said, how do you get a commercial? And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, and I was like, you got to get your headshots. You got to make a resume.

Speaker 1 And we talked on the phone. I don't know if you remember that.
For a long time, I must have been, I don't know, 20, 19 years old, 20 years old, 21, something like that. Remember that?

Speaker 1 Do you remember that, Craig? No. No, Craig.

Speaker 1 So moving on. My favorite part of this story is that Craig doesn't know.

Speaker 1 Craig, do you remember teaching anybody? I I used to teach. I taught kindergarten through eighth grade here in Chicago and Indiana.
What? Yeah, I wanted to get into that.

Speaker 1 So, Craig, so hang on a second. So, let's back up even further and we're going to get into the teaching.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your mom, was your mom a teacher or is a teacher? She was a teacher. She taught it when young high school.

Speaker 1 She was my music teacher. She was your music teacher.
So, no wonder you and your brother are both musically inclined. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Our whole house was,

Speaker 1 you know, pianos, drums, horns, all kinds of stuff was in there. It was like a music hall.
That's wild. Okay, so your mom was a music teacher.
So then you

Speaker 1 grew up with music all around you. And did you guys all, did you jam out like everybody in the family? You and your brother? Jam out.
Shut up. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 I thought everybody at Christmas. Like, I thought every family in the world was like playing and singing harmony until one Christmas I was in LA and it was just quiet over.

Speaker 1 And I went went and got the keyboard out the car and they were like, what?

Speaker 1 Christmas carols at Christmas.

Speaker 1 Sean, you keep threatening to play the piano at our Christmas gatherings. It hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 1 It's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding? Yeah, I was. Can we not make your deal or something like that? Is it a deal thing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys have to make a deal with me. No,

Speaker 1 yeah, I was going to pull out the, I was going to get a piano at the last.

Speaker 1 I just want to hear some Christmas. Christmas carols.
It kind of like stops a party. No, it doesn't.
It stops a party.

Speaker 1 Remember one time at Jimmy's house, at Jimmy Burrow's house, you got on the piano. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which was fun. And Jason, remember that we were all like, oh, Jason, don't nobody tell Jason.
Don't invite Jason. I think Amanda was even there too, his wife.

Speaker 1 But everybody's like, don't mention it to Jason. Will, it stops the party.
People are like, oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1 And then everybody goes, and then everybody goes home when it's done.

Speaker 1 You stop playing piano, then everybody goes home. You're right.
It's like when somebody goes, hey, watch this video. And as soon as you pull a video out, you show somebody, everything's over.

Speaker 1 I did that last night, and that exact thing happened. Wait, what happened, Craig? I did that.

Speaker 1 I I put out a video and I started showing people because I was, I'm so proud of this show and this one scene.

Speaker 1 And then the lights went off and everybody left home.

Speaker 1 And you did it on purpose or no? No, no.

Speaker 1 I did it not knowing if that's what happens when you show up with the video. It's true.
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Speaker 1 Craig, so let me. So, so your mom's a teacher, music teacher.
You and your brother were musically inclined. You were surrounded by it your whole time.

Speaker 1 So, then you go to college and major in music with Sean Hayes.

Speaker 1 And, Sean, you had already done Will and Grace by that point, right? I forget the timeline on that. No, McDonald's.
He had been selling McCribs. He'd done McDonald's as a sitcom.
I don't.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm not paying attention.

Speaker 1 I'm exclusive to the McCribb campaign, I believe. I had already done

Speaker 1 McRibby, the sitcom. I want to hear about like hungry, young, not knowing anything about the business, Craig.
Yeah, exactly. So, so he calls Sean and so that's what I'm getting to.
Take your time.

Speaker 1 So, you go, you go to college, and then what is that moment when you graduate college? Because then you become a music teacher. How did you make the leap from being a music major at Illinois State?

Speaker 1 That's a good question. It's a great question.
To coming out to California and working as an actor. Well, I called Sean's mother's house.

Speaker 1 I remember that phone call.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but to that point, Craig, I had the same question that I can't believe I waited 30 years to ask you, which was what was that? Exactly what Will just asked. Like, I remember that phone call.

Speaker 1 I'm not offended that you don't, but I was like, oh, that's so cool. Craig wants to get into acting.
But what made you want to do that?

Speaker 1 I was chosen by comedy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Comedy chose me.

Speaker 1 Call it bitten by the bug, whatever you want. But

Speaker 1 I was in college, I was like, I'm going to do stand-up.

Speaker 1 I think my father, who was a like serious attorney, serious, a corporate attorney, I think he inadvertently sparked it one day because he was like, because I was always so silly.

Speaker 1 And, you know, just, he's like, you know, people get paid to be silly like that. And I was like, excuse me? Comedians.
People get paid to do this stuff. And

Speaker 1 that was one of the things that sat with me. Then in college, as I'm

Speaker 1 feeling this comedy button, like comedians were like superheroes to me. Like you could see them, you just couldn't touch them or anything.
But then I saw some people doing comedy in college.

Speaker 1 And that's what made me go, okay,

Speaker 1 I'm getting to this. Because it was people I could see and touch and knew.
And like, what do you think? You have an act. How do you do that? So then once I graduated, I was full on.

Speaker 1 Even by that point, I had driven to Chicago and back to go go to like the laugh, the funding firm to see Richard Ginney speak just on a Saturday afternoon or something.

Speaker 1 But were you working, were you working on stand-up material at that point? At that point, in college, I had like a couple of jokes. I would go, Sean, do you remember this?

Speaker 1 The theater department would have these like Tuesday night, like almost like an open mic, but there was no mic. It was just somebody would come up and.
It was called Theater of Ted. Theater of Ted.

Speaker 1 Ted's theater. And people would just perform with her.

Speaker 1 and i and i got up the nerve and went up and kind of played the piano messed around and told some jokes and uh the the first joke i think i ever wrote was uh was a poem

Speaker 1 like sometimes my father you know he comforts me he'll say stop crying and i want to do this poem for you stop crying stop crying right now before i give you something to cry about

Speaker 1 you're making a scene you know that's wrong just wait till we get home and then you know we got a little reaction whatever

Speaker 1 and a couple of mothers and i start so anyway go to,

Speaker 1 I graduate, and then immediately I'm hitting the open mics and going to Second City. And, you know, things kind of progress from there.
And at some point,

Speaker 1 my buddy Owen Smith, who's a big time Hollywood writer now, he goes, he's like, you probably, you know, get on the sitcom or whatever.

Speaker 1 I forget what we talked about, but it was something about made me go, if I go into acting, I want to know what I'm doing. So I started, I went to Act One.
I went to Second City.

Speaker 1 I went to Audition Center.

Speaker 1 Then I I did, I got Deaf Comedy Jam from doing comedy, what have you. That got me some eyes in Hollywood.
I forced a manager to tell me I need to move to Hollywood.

Speaker 1 Like, you think I should move here, right? You think I should? You think I should? And I ended up winning this contest.

Speaker 1 I won a few contests, but the,

Speaker 1 oh, I did it, got a development deal. I went to Montreal and got a development deal.
You went to Just for Laughs? Went to Just for Laughs. Yeah, and the idea, it was New Faces.
Came back.

Speaker 1 I went on 14 meetings. And I'm getting a development deal from one of them.
And that's what eventually got me to move to Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Did Sean say anything on that first phone call that was helpful at all?

Speaker 1 I'm sure he did. Sean was always very positive, very sure.
Very helpful, probably. So, Craig, but I'm trying to go along the time because

Speaker 1 we're all the same age, roughly. Jason's the oldest here, obviously.
72.

Speaker 1 But you, Sean, and I are about the same age. I'm 51.
Sean's 51. Are you 51 as well? I'll be 51 in October.

Speaker 1 Okay. So we're we're all in the same ballpark, and I, you know, whatever, 50 and young play, obviously skew way younger in

Speaker 1 have lots and a big presence on social media. So obviously in touch with young people too.
And if you just reach out and look for my handles and subscribe here. But the point is this.

Speaker 1 The point is this.

Speaker 1 There are a few. Subscribe.
Nothing made me sound older than that.

Speaker 1 The point is, what are those gap?

Speaker 1 How long were you teaching before you, because you're doing all this stuff in college, you realize like, okay, I want to be a stand-up. Your dad tells you,

Speaker 1 by the way, my dad was also a lawyer for many years, a corporate lawyer. And they were always like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 Not like, hey, you're silly people that make money. They're like, stop goofing around and get serious.
But what are you doing from that moment?

Speaker 1 You graduate college, you've got it in your mind you want to do comedy. You start teaching

Speaker 1 instead for a while.

Speaker 1 But while you're teaching, you have a foot out the door. Exactly.
The whole time, I think.

Speaker 1 I remember the first year I started teaching, the teachers were like, watch Mr. Holland's Opus.

Speaker 1 They were like, don't get stuck here. So

Speaker 1 I taught one year in Indiana and Franklin Elementary and then also Edgars Elementary. And so one was like in Whiting and then one was in this other part of town, Indiana.

Speaker 1 But it was a good 45-minute drive in between. And it was sweet because two days a week, I had like a two-hour break to drive in between schools.

Speaker 1 And one was like a white school, one was like a black school. It was amazing.
So

Speaker 1 I taught there for a year. Then I got into a program called Teachers for Chicago, where you get paid to teach and they get you your master's.

Speaker 1 So I was getting my, I got my master's to Teachers for Chicago, and then you're supposed to be there for a few years, you know, committed to Chicago. That's amazing.
And your master's was, was it,

Speaker 1 was it music? Yes, music education. Gotcha.
That's so cool. Wow.

Speaker 1 Talk to me about was it, was teaching these, these kids, these young kids, was it

Speaker 1 lovely on the whole or frustrating? Like,

Speaker 1 I always marvel at the patience that teachers of young, young, young children have.

Speaker 1 You know, obviously, I love kids, but you spend

Speaker 1 seven hours with

Speaker 1 kids trying to teach them X, Y, and Z, trying to figure out

Speaker 1 how to manage their attention and their focus. The hand goes up, the mouth goes shut, that kind of thing.
Yeah. How'd you do with that? Did you have like this teacher of my

Speaker 1 youngest daughter? Like, they did this little,

Speaker 1 you like, there, there's like, there's like, there's clap signals to like, you go quiet when you hear that. Like, did you have, how did you, how did you manage with all that?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say, like, uh,

Speaker 1 yo, shut the fuck up. Yeah, good, yeah, that's efficient.
Something like that, you know, clapping. That's clear.
That's very clear. The uh,

Speaker 1 I, they were the most, for the most part, the kids were,

Speaker 1 were cool, you know.

Speaker 1 Then there were a few classes.

Speaker 1 One class was like this special ed class, this behavior kind of thing, where they had a security guard and a teacher in there all day until they came to music.

Speaker 1 So then, but then I have to like play the dozens and do your mama jokes

Speaker 1 and then jump in and be like, so anyway, Beethoven, you know.

Speaker 1 Right. You had to kind of hide it a little bit.
That was that. But then the other ones, you know, if you were interested enough, they would sit and pay attention.
And then

Speaker 1 if you weren't. Were there kids, did you, were you able to identify kids who were like really talented and go like that? Okay, yeah.
Yeah. For sure.
For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And could you identify the kids that were the problems too?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 there were kids who just needed a little bit more than others. Yeah.
Yeah. I needed you.
I was a problem. I needed you.

Speaker 1 You know, I wouldn't have got kicked out so much. Yeah.
But you turned out great. Turned out all right.
You turned out okay.

Speaker 1 There's probably, there were probably kids that were like, that you probably didn't connect with like on a personality level too, but you had to, right? You're like,

Speaker 1 1000%. Yeah, yeah.
Coming in now, I can't stand this kid. And then you have to act like, but you can't, right?

Speaker 1 It's nothing because Tana was just like, they couldn't stand me. You know, it just didn't, you in an

Speaker 1 authoritative position.

Speaker 1 It wasn't, you know, it just didn't sit well. What's the worst punishment you ever gave to a kid?

Speaker 1 Worst punishment?

Speaker 1 I'll send them back to their teacher.

Speaker 1 I had them 40 minutes a week. Were you trying any of your material out on these youngsters? Funny question.
I did. Once I started

Speaker 1 learning, you know, really, really, I mean, you know, getting to comedy, I was, you know, obviously going to the open mics weekly, nightly. And, yeah, I would practice my stagemanship.

Speaker 1 It wasn't necessarily the jokes that I would do. You know what I mean? Yeah, you've got a locked-in audience.
They have to be there. Yeah.
They're not locked in. They do have to be there.

Speaker 1 You learn how to deal with hecklers, too. A little bit.
You know, little shitty little eight-year-olds running their mouths.

Speaker 1 Jesus, man. Hey, dad of the year.
Cool.

Speaker 1 By the way, Maple gave me a great joke the other day. She said, this is my 10-year-old.
She said,

Speaker 1 How do you make holy water? I said, How? She goes, You boil the hell out of it.

Speaker 1 That's good, actually.

Speaker 1 You can use that one tonight, Craig. That's free.
That's good. Tell her,

Speaker 1 ask her, what kind of car did Jesus drive

Speaker 1 what would she say a Chrysler

Speaker 1 we'll be right back after these messages you're welcome no hang on a second so Craig yeah how did

Speaker 1 the office come about because that was what a question you were so thank you you were so uh I loved you on the office by the way and I've told you I always think you're a hilarious dude thank you bro but But I loved you on the office.

Speaker 1 Tell me, how did that, what was that process? Before that, too, I remember driving on the CBS Radford lot, and you were the car behind me or in front of me or something. And I was like,

Speaker 1 Craig? And you just moved to L.A.? I was like, this is what? You're in L.A. now.
It's so cool. And then you said you were going on audition and audition.
And then you just popped up on the office.

Speaker 1 It was just so awesome. And you know what you told me? You were like,

Speaker 1 tell me about all the auditions you went on and how you want to be sitting in the corner with a razor blade, you know,

Speaker 1 because it's just denial, denial, denial.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I've thought about that actually a lot. Wow, that sounds like great advice, Sean, that you gave Craig.

Speaker 1 No, he, no, how you would be getting denied, and he'd be like,

Speaker 1 that's how you feel. Like, you just want to, oh, I'm on the

Speaker 1 wars. Craig, welcome to LA.
You're going to spend most of your time in a corner with a razor blade.

Speaker 1 Good luck.

Speaker 1 Oh, thanks, Sean. Thanks, old friend.

Speaker 1 Let me know how it goes. Tell me if you want to grab a bite.

Speaker 1 Wait, so the office is what, 2004, 2005, something like that? Yes. Let me see.
Yeah. Yeah.
2005, I think. There goes Mary Lou Arnett.
I know. I'm good with dates.

Speaker 1 So was that just like a standard audition process on that or anything colorful about that process of landing that sweet gig? So I went in and

Speaker 1 full circle. Greg Daniels and I don't know, 13 other people sitting there.
Greg, front and center. And he goes, I saw your video.

Speaker 1 You're talking about somebody's fucking my lady. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 And he was like, not getting any funnier than that, which

Speaker 1 probably should be a vote of confidence, a shot for me. But for me, I'm like, oh, fuck.
Yeah. Well, if it's not getting any funnier, then this obviously is not going to be funny.

Speaker 1 He should have shaken the script pages and said, yeah, not with this shit, you know, and then just walked out. That would have killed.

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 You know, they had us do

Speaker 1 one of the little mono, the assigns to the camera. What do they call it? Confessionals.
And they had us, you know, do that paragraph. And Deadpan is like,

Speaker 1 I'm a huge fan of. Yeah, that's your thing.
You know, like Harvey Cormann and

Speaker 1 Leslie. what's what's leslie nestle from police squad nilson lesli nils yeah yeah

Speaker 1 those are my cats man so i went in there just like so the office i thought was tailor-made for my style yeah it's true so you do that you do that audition you do you do that uh talking head and you do the deadpan thing for greg and the 13 people in the room You walk out and you think, what?

Speaker 1 Nailed it? I want to be on the office? Or you let it go and just like, I'm with my day oh you gotta gotta let it go move on this i didn't know it was it was another audition

Speaker 1 yeah i would throw my script away or my sides away like this like that'll show them you know like i'm not gonna think about that at all and all you do is think about it yeah i would always i would love to say uh as i was leaving good luck with this like in other words like i'm gonna not give myself this part before you not give this to me i did it after every audition so bad really Really?

Speaker 1 God, the arrogance is so gross. Well, but it was also sort of like, you know, feigned humility.
Like, well, you know, I'm not assuming I'm going to get this.

Speaker 1 And in the probability that I do not, please, good luck with this. Not a lot of people know this.
Jason also invented pray hands.

Speaker 1 Yeah, after prayer hands. I started that.

Speaker 1 Small bow, tiny hands. Pray hand.

Speaker 1 The worst is when you put the audition out of your mind and then, you know, two months later,

Speaker 1 your mom's like, Hey, so what happened with the Spider-Man?

Speaker 1 Audition, did you get that? Right. My mom's favorite thing to always do was always just to sort of just let me know what A-list directors I should be working with.

Speaker 1 You know what? You know what? You should do a film with Steven Spielberg. Like, oh, is that

Speaker 1 boy? Hang on, let me write this down.

Speaker 1 My father would be like, You look like David Allen Greer, you should do something with him.

Speaker 1 Call him, call him up, just call him up. All right, so, Craig,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 how's your music passion nowadays? Are you, is it still,

Speaker 1 what's a bigger passion for you, the acting or the music? The music. It's always going to be the music.

Speaker 1 The music is the first love. So

Speaker 1 what are you listening to mostly right now?

Speaker 1 At least what genre of music? Some Chris Robb. Chris Robb.
That's my brother. That's his brother.
That's my brother, yeah. And some Craig Robb.
We've been working on something

Speaker 1 that I don't know if it'll ever ever come out because I'm the head of it. But we have several songs about ready to go.
What's it sound like mostly? What type is it? Hard rock.

Speaker 1 The first one is like a

Speaker 1 kind of smooth RB. Smooth.
All I want to do is love you, babe. Sure.
So is it safe to say then that you act to pay the bills for your music passion and like follow that? Oh, Sean.

Speaker 1 Sometimes.

Speaker 1 Like some, like I'll do a bunch of comedy shows.

Speaker 1 And if I know the band is going to do a show at a House of the Blues and only get, you know, 10 grand, I might do a bunch of shows around there to make sure. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 House of Blues still going. House of Blues still up and around? Yes.
Is that a close? Is it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I take that back. I'll resend my answer.
I don't know. Okay.

Speaker 1 We'll strike it. We'll strike that.
We'll strike it. I'm sorry.
You're committed already. No, no, you strike it.

Speaker 1 Can you re-ask me?

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Speaker 1 Craig, is there a dream project where you want to combine music and a dream film of yours or a dream role? Or musical theater, Sean? Six. Anything?

Speaker 1 But can you think of anything that Craig could just fall right into? Yeah, a million things. A beautiful glove.
A million things. How about promises, promises? I saw that on Broadway.

Speaker 1 Did you see it?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, that was very sweet of you to come.
I remember that. Do you? He was amazing.
You were amazing in this way. Thank you.
Thank you. He was amazing and I saw this with Broadway.

Speaker 1 Would you like to do a run on Broadway?

Speaker 1 I would love it. Yeah, absolutely.
Really? What about you? Sean, what could you and Craig do together?

Speaker 1 That would be a great two-hander. Star Crazy, the musical.
Yeah. Wait a minute.
Wait, what? Wait, Craig. That's a really good idea.
That's a great idea.

Speaker 1 Well, who's someone's going to steal that right now? You guys have how many weeks before we air this episode to write it? They can't steal it. They can't steal it.

Speaker 1 He's already got it. That's a good idea, Craig.
Who holds the rights for that? Craig owns it, and now Sean works for Craig. Hey, listen, this is a great idea.
I'm here. We're witnesses.

Speaker 1 Craig's dad's a lawyer. We're going to get the papers drawn up.

Speaker 1 that was fast. It was very fast.

Speaker 1 Do you like that idea of going to Broadway and doing eight shows a week and all the rehearsal and all that stuff?

Speaker 1 I had a taste of it a few years back with Chris Rock. We were doing Pearly, and it wasn't even the music.

Speaker 1 And it was Chris Rock and

Speaker 1 I wish I could remember everybody's name. Kimberly, Aber,

Speaker 1 and then some real heavy-hitter Broadway people. And then Bo.
What's Bo's brother? Bridges. Bo Bridges.
Bo Bridges, yeah.

Speaker 1 Bo Bridges was in it, too. So they flew us to New York.
Played my dad, too. And we were there for like, you know, a whole week just rehearsing the shit out of this play.

Speaker 1 And then the first day, this big producer comes in. He also does music.
Can't think of his name. Big time director was working with us throughout the week.
And the last day he came in.

Speaker 1 So, you know, first and let's see where it was from the beginning to the end. So I wouldn't mind.
I didn't mind. I know it wasn't a, you know, rigorous,

Speaker 1 but they did, they did ultimately, they did not end up doing the play. Is that the deal? Yeah, we we uh i don't know what happened, I think it was because of covet.

Speaker 1 You know, what I think it was, and this is, I'm just guessing. You know what I think it happened? What happened? I think that maybe because you couldn't remember anybody's name, and maybe if you're

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 it came to me eventually, all the names I thought of just came to me, it's too late. No, they moved on.
Rick Rubin, is that a

Speaker 1 Rick Rubin? Sure,

Speaker 1 the poor name was

Speaker 1 he was a part of it, and it did not go forward. Is Rick Rubin in the music? And I think Scott Rudin was producing it.
And Sam Mendez, I think, was direction. And they did not go forward.

Speaker 1 Like the biggest names, and Craig's like, I'm sorry, one more time with your name.

Speaker 1 So you have not yet tested your stamina in a Broadway run yet. Is that correct? I have not.

Speaker 1 I have done 14 shows a week doing comedy, though. Whoa, wow.
Well, there you go. That's something.
That's something.

Speaker 1 Two shows a night. That's a lot.
Sean is just coming off. Sean's starting.
he's embarking. I know you heard us yammering on earlier.

Speaker 1 He just got unbelievable reviews there at the Goodman in Chicago, like unbelievable. And he's being very modest about it.
And I ended up tweeting out his review because I'm

Speaker 1 so proud of him because I just love it. Congratulations, Sean.
Thank you. What are you in? It's a new show called Good Night Oscar.
Hold for applause.

Speaker 1 Still holding.

Speaker 1 And still holding. And

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 this is about the movie industry completely

Speaker 1 going away and it only being television, right? And therefore just the

Speaker 1 Emmy Awards. Oh, I see.
Good night, Oscar. There we go.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Jason, good for you. Thanks.
That's fun.

Speaker 1 That's a fun joke, Jason.

Speaker 1 So, Craig. You mentioned Greg Daniels.
So you work with Greg on the office and also with Mike Schur on the office. Oh,

Speaker 1 our old friend. And then Mike goes on to do Parks and Wreck,

Speaker 1 Brooklyn 9-9, which you do

Speaker 1 with Mike and Dan Gore, who created it.

Speaker 1 And then you have tremendous success on Brooklyn 9-9. And then you and Dan Gore

Speaker 1 start a new show together that's coming out soon on Peacock

Speaker 1 that might already be out. Right? Yes, yes.
Called Killing It. Killing It.

Speaker 1 It. So you've reunited with the great Dan Gore, whom I also know from Parson Rec, who's an absolutely hilarious guy.
Agreed. And

Speaker 1 how did Killing It come about? This is about the singing hitman. Yes?

Speaker 1 Guys. That's what I thought about it.
They're just, they come so fast, and I just got to share them with you. And anyway, continue.
That's what they say. That's what the lady says.

Speaker 1 Craig, please cut him off.

Speaker 1 Had a meeting with Dan. He was like, dude, you know, we love working with you.
And you're the best part about a lot of of the things that you're in. Let's figure something out.
So

Speaker 1 Mark Schulman, my manager, happy birthday, Mark. It's his birthday today, but this is.
Hey, Mark.

Speaker 1 And then Luke Del Tredici. Did I say it, right? Luke.

Speaker 1 We all got together, you know, and then they kept pitching, they were pitching these ideas. And like, well, which, you know, and it was a musical ideas or this idea and this.
And then there was this

Speaker 1 really interesting thing about snake snake killing in Florida,

Speaker 1 where people were killing snakes for money because they're overrun.

Speaker 1 Because back in the day, drug dealers would buy them to be, you know, like Scarface would have you, but then they send them out and nothing eats the snakes. They eat everything.
So

Speaker 1 they need to be. That's the show.
You're a snake kid. That's the show.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Hang on a second.

Speaker 1 The cock is putting up a snake killer hitman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do it for the cock.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 Jason, this is actually not a terrible idea of rebranding for Peacock to go simply as the cock. The cock.

Speaker 1 Or maybe, and it's coming next on the cock.

Speaker 1 No?

Speaker 1 Coming out. It's good.
No, wait.

Speaker 1 We got it. Hang on.
We're all around it. Let's just hold on a second.
We are really close to the corner.

Speaker 1 Streaming from the cock. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 I think we got it. There we have it.
Yep. Okay.
So, continuing. So you're literally a snake killer.

Speaker 1 Come on. Kill snakes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Craig, that's the pitch.

Speaker 1 You have the world listening right now.

Speaker 1 I'm giving you one more shot.

Speaker 1 Literally killing snakes. Yeah.
Okay. That's what it is.
I'd watch it. I'd watch it.
And what time can we find this on? It's streaming on the cock. It's streaming on the cock.

Speaker 1 It's streaming on the snow. It's streaming on the cock.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. We've got a lot of interesting things coming from the cock this season.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 On the cock stream.

Speaker 1 So you're, okay, but listen, come on. Listen.
Wait, I want to talk about, like, what about ladies in your life? Like, are you dating anybody? Anybody special in the Craig Robinson?

Speaker 1 I'm single, AF.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You're single, AF? Should we be on the lookout for you? No, no, no. I'm happily

Speaker 1 single.

Speaker 1 Well, what does that mean? When you say you're happy single, does that mean that you've got it all worked out?

Speaker 1 You've got you're swiping on certain nights, you're going out to certain clubs on other nights, certain bars on the nights, and you've got a great routine going.

Speaker 1 No dating, anything at this point whatsoever. No dating?

Speaker 1 Zero, yeah.

Speaker 1 What's behind that? No distractions, just

Speaker 1 enjoying.

Speaker 1 I'm very, very busy. And

Speaker 1 it's all good.

Speaker 1 Because,

Speaker 1 like, in the past,

Speaker 1 last year or so, like,

Speaker 1 women would get mad at me and just be like, break up. That's a whole nother podcast.
But

Speaker 1 they've been, you know, removing themselves from my life. So it's brought me a peace that I'm like, oh, this is, this is nice.
And then, so maybe I got to.

Speaker 1 Could you maybe instead maybe think about why you're upsetting these women and therefore be able to continue dating women? Bro, that's a whole nother podcast. It's still put it on, Craig.

Speaker 1 Okay, here, how about that? I'll tell you this. One girl hit me, she was like,

Speaker 1 why have you never

Speaker 1 put me in anything but gave me a job? So this is the question. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Well, what?

Speaker 1 And I said, well, you don't sing or do comedy or play music. You know, she texted me.

Speaker 1 I'm playing music right now.

Speaker 1 Because I'm

Speaker 1 like, oh, she was just listening to music.

Speaker 1 I'm playing music right now. So then she was like, you know what? I'm fine with not

Speaker 1 speaking with you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But then take this other girl who I just met in New York, who wrote me a whole show and

Speaker 1 came to see my show. And I'm like, well, here's somebody I could use on the squad.
This girl's amazing. Sure.

Speaker 1 Let's tell us. And then what happened? Oh, no, we stayed in touch.
Oh, so

Speaker 1 that's romantically.

Speaker 1 Not romantically. Not romantically.
So you got her on ice romantically, but

Speaker 1 I'll put it like this. I got my eye on somebody, but I'm not, you know.
Okay, okay. That's fair enough.
That's fair enough.

Speaker 1 We're not going to push you.

Speaker 1 It's fun. It's fun to have a crush.
Did your mom and dad give you any pressure? Like, come on, Craig. Is your mom like all over you about settling down? No.

Speaker 1 No? Living my life. You're living your life.

Speaker 1 Now, is it. Living my life like this gold.
Was dad ever pissed off that you weren't going into corporate law and that you were going into comedy and music instead? Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Not pissed that I wasn't going into corporate law, but

Speaker 1 he saw this as pie in the sky. Yeah.
And I think his quote was, you're going to lose that good job. Right.

Speaker 1 And now you've proven him wrong. And now does he give it up? Does he say,

Speaker 1 I was wrong, you were right. Good for you? I don't think he'll ever say that.

Speaker 1 There's always something he's twisting the needle. Right, right.
They don't know you. Parents know how to do that.
Like the white people know,

Speaker 1 the black people don't know you that well, huh? And then

Speaker 1 people don't really want your autograph. And then people start wanting to autograph.
People don't, there's always something

Speaker 1 to keep going. Right, right.
Well, it keeps you hungry, right? Keep chasing the approval. But I think that that's a parenting style.
I think you're right.

Speaker 1 It's just like if they give it up, then they think that you're going to get lazy or something.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? So they're like, in their mind, it's like, even subconsciously, they're like, I'm motivating him. And I feel like I'm doing the opposite.
And it's wrong. I'm making a mistake.

Speaker 1 I'm the problem, like the whole participation award thing. I think I'm complimenting my kids too quickly

Speaker 1 for what is at some some sometimes just mediocrity, right?

Speaker 1 In an unkind view of things. But I'm trying to say, well, that was great.

Speaker 1 Keep doing, keep doing more. But

Speaker 1 am I conditioning them for an unrealistic world where they're going to get applauded for just doing the normal? I think it's a balance, like everything. I think it's a balance.

Speaker 1 You got to praise them and you got to teach them, right? Craig, when you were teaching these kids,

Speaker 1 would you give them a pat on the back for a C or would you wait for at least a B?

Speaker 1 Oh, you got to, no, Sean hit it on the head. You definitely got to praise them and you got to teach them.

Speaker 1 I could tell you my

Speaker 1 niece and nephew, you know,

Speaker 1 they want to be in the business. And my niece was like, here, I have an idea.

Speaker 1 It's a dope, dope idea. And then she told me an idea and it was like,

Speaker 1 there was zero development, put it like that.

Speaker 1 And it was, you know,

Speaker 1 you have to show something. Say, I'm writing.

Speaker 1 And then you got to explain to them that, hey, when you take these scripts in, you're competing against people who are going to school for scripts and this, that, and the other. So it's, it's hard to,

Speaker 1 because I know some of the stuff comes off harsh, but I do let them know that, or both of them know that, hey, you can do this.

Speaker 1 It's not as easy as you think it is. Are you more, are you like into the business of the business at all, Craig? Or are you more like a hands-off call me when it's the cake is made?

Speaker 1 Do you have the deadline app?

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I like the

Speaker 1 made cake.

Speaker 1 I have my hands are in some things, but

Speaker 1 like my band and stuff like that, but for the most part,

Speaker 1 but the acting thing and the and the whole Hollywood thing, you're just like, just call me if something comes in.

Speaker 1 You're not like one to seek out development and put projects together and write that.

Speaker 1 There's been a couple of things, but yeah,

Speaker 1 not enough. It's like somebody saying, hey, you play the drums.
Look, I can keep a beat, right? But I'm not a drummer. You know what I mean? Got it.
Got it. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 I've had my hand a couple of things. For the most part, things will come and be like, okay, let's, you know, let's see that through.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a, you know, sorry, just to, just to interrupt for one second. Jason, any interesting developments in any of the trades this morning? Well, listen,

Speaker 1 everyone is really monitoring the, you know, the merger there at the Warner Brothers and Discovery Plus.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 no big Hillmer's ankled any projects this morning?

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, listen, Disney's still having trouble with the don't say gay thing, and everyone's keeping their eye on that.

Speaker 1 They got a retreat coming up here, and so there's a problem with the excellent. And you get alerts.
You definitely get alerts. Oh, sure.
Well, anyway.

Speaker 1 Instead of a date,

Speaker 1 what is it called? Deadline app, I have a Bateman app. Yeah.
It just really gives me the highlights of the daylight.

Speaker 1 Anytime I have anything in the trades, the first person to congratulate me is Jason. That was a long time ago, Will.
Remember when you used to compliment me when I had releases?

Speaker 1 There used to be a lot of support. Well, I don't read the trades anymore.
I should. I probably should.
I don't either. So tonight's show is a combination of music and of jokes.
Yes? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 I really want to come see it. So May 4th,

Speaker 1 I will see that. May 4th at the Troubadour.
Yeah. May 4th of the Troubadour.
That's not hard to remember.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy the Troubadour is back in action because it feels like it was closed there for a minute.

Speaker 1 No? Confirmation? Jason? Yeah. Anyone? Sean? Not sure, but I think there was a virus that was going around for a little while.
World virus.

Speaker 1 That's right. No, let me check deadline.

Speaker 1 So, Killing It, Craig Robinson, is coming out. It's going to be available on the cock, streaming on the cock.

Speaker 1 Man, I'm excited to see it. I love everything you do.
You're such a hilarious dude. And on top of it all, and it's not, you can't always say this about everybody.
You're a super nice guy.

Speaker 1 And every time I see you, you're one of those guys, like, when you see you, you're like, I'm so happy to see Craig Robinson. For sure.
You got a good vibe.

Speaker 1 Say the same for all of you guys. Great vibe, dude.
We wish you all the best. We've taken up way too much of your time.
Thanks for joining us, man. Yeah.
Thanks for being here, Craig.

Speaker 1 It's always so fun to see you. Pleasure was mario.
Appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you, Craig.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Palace. Bye, buddy.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Craig Robinson. Craig Robinson.
Super fun.

Speaker 1 I got to see you. I keep saying Craig.
No, I did. Craig.
Craig Robinson. Did you say Craig? Okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, my G

Speaker 1 is C adjacent for sure.

Speaker 1 By the way, that reminds me of, I think, a dumb joke I told before on this thing.

Speaker 1 Definitely tell it again. My new company,

Speaker 1 we're working on

Speaker 1 mold is big. So it's called Adjacent Abatement

Speaker 1 that we are.

Speaker 1 That's really tight.

Speaker 1 Share that one with Maple. Yeah.
So I got to see the snake killing show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to know how

Speaker 1 they're shaping 30 minutes of entertainment weekly on that.

Speaker 1 I want to see that. That's a challenge.
Although, if anybody could do it, it's Craig because he's so...

Speaker 1 He was one of those. I loved his character, Daryl, on the office.
He was so funny. He was so straightforward.

Speaker 1 He kind of oftentimes felt like the only one who he and our buddy Kraz playing Jim over there, they were the only two who weren't completely insane.

Speaker 1 And Jenna, obviously, who played Pam.

Speaker 1 Now I've just named three characters.

Speaker 1 But he seemed to be the guy who was always like,

Speaker 1 and he really enjoyed. I love the dynamic between him and Michael Scott

Speaker 1 because Daryl kind of would

Speaker 1 egg him on Corell's character to do stupid things.

Speaker 1 Isn't that, but don't you think it's, I know, I've gone on too much about it. We both had the exact same major in college, and we both followed the exact same path.
Isn't that weird?

Speaker 1 Is it because there's no money to be made as a classical pianist? Well, there's that, but I didn't really think about that before when I was young.

Speaker 1 Well, great, Jason. You just enraged eight people in the planet.
I'm joking.

Speaker 1 Of course, there's great money to be made. Weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, but

Speaker 1 he made me laugh so hard in college.

Speaker 1 And we would always hang out and make each other laugh. It's just so wild to see his journey.

Speaker 1 It's funny that you guys have been on this journey for so long, kind of together, like a Jason, and you come in and out of each other's lives.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 now that you're older, to look back and you both, no, there's no but. It's just been, you guys have both been really successful, and that's kind of rare.
Yeah, it is rare.

Speaker 1 We used to walk down the halls and singing. I was like, I'm going to go to a by there.
Sorry. I know.

Speaker 1 No. We used to sing the harmony to more than words.
Do you remember that single?

Speaker 1 I'm usually, I'm not great with those kinds of songs, like pop songs. I'm usually better with lulla.

Speaker 1 Bye.

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