"Woody Harrelson"

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Well, guys, listen, do you feel the chill in the air?

Do you feel the holiday spirit?

I do.

I feel the crackling of the fire.

Oh, it's so nice, huh?

It's really chilly outside.

Nothing says holidays like, oh, wait a second. We're not doing an ad.

What are you doing?

Like, we have. This is just for Smartless.

Never go to the post office again.

I think we're just doing a nice little holiday lead-in for this week's Smartless.

Oh, my God.

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Jason, you look beautiful today.

You look really smiley, and you're wearing a nice collared shirt.

That must mean that you're going to the office. Is that it? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got a bunch of work to do today.
Yeah look really smiley and you're wearing a nice collared shirt. That must mean that you're going to the office.

Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got a bunch of work to do today. Yeah, at the office.

You do? Yeah. Where you got like a driver off the

tee.

No, I don't take a drive. I self-drive.

I don't drive myself to work.

Oh, man. You don't have a

self-driving car. Here's the thing.

Last night was really fun. We all hung out.

Yeah, we did. And Will was dabbing

like crazy with the dab moves. And then

Jason Googles dab because you didn't quite get it. Wait, no, hang on.
Yeah. Don't forget.
Jason held his phone up and said, hey Siri, what does dab mean? Well, I want to know, is it an acronym?

My phone just answered.

It was so... And then what came up?

One's father.

And I said,

oh, she thought I said dad.

And then I said dab

and nothing.

She ignored me.

And you'd never seen someone dab before?

No, I've seen the dab,

but I want to know what...

You tell me, what does dab mean?

I don't know.

Don't get on my face about it.

I don't know what it is.

What's the history of the dab?

or and had you not and you'd never seen someone dab before no I've seen the dab but I want to know you tell me what does dab mean I don't know don't get in my face about it I don't know what it is what's the history of the dab or maybe Tracy knows Tracy might well Tracy knows she lives in Wisconsin she would know what dab is dab capital of the world and then Jay and then Jay went on a little like side side thing where he was like should I wear overalls you want to know why overalls aren't popular anymore yeah Yeah, I wore them a lot when I was 12, 13, 14, 15.

I mean, that was fashion back then.

And now, like, there's, you know, like the Beastie Boys have, like, the boiler suits, you know, those little onesies.

Or, like, prison onesies.

I'd like to wear that.

I'd like to just zip into something and just get out the door.

Because it's easy.

Yeah.

So what are you waiting for?

Just bring them back.

You'll be the one to bring him back.

I don't think I have that kind of style status

where I can just, you know, make something happen.

Jason's nervous that he'd be judged.

If we can be honest, he wouldn't want to be judged in that way.

It's not so much that.

I just don't want to be distracted by people yelling at me

saying, hey, loser, get off the street.

You don't have to wear overalls to hear that. You're not going to pay attention to what you're doing.
People could give two fucks what you're doing. Listen, let me say this.
I suggested that I want to go back to wearing overalls with no shirt, sort of Dexys, Midnight Runners style. I can't do that.
Why? And then just dance around on a street corner? Come on, Eileen. Okay.
Get ready for this. Will's got new earphones on.
Headphones, whatever they're called. Did you...
Little monitors. Oh, yeah, you don't have your big things on.
Why is that? No, the little monitors. Did you pay for those? What do you think? I bet you didn't.
I can't confirm or deny anything right now. But it looks like they might be molded for your ears because you're a professional voiceover artist.
Oh, look at that. What do you think about them? They're pretty good, right? Yeah, they are pretty good.
And they keep the things away from your hair. Well, here's the thing.
If you really want to know, so cans, what you guys are wearing and what I usually use and have worn for years and everybody does it, it's very traditional like this. Yeah.
As you know, you wear them. They're fine to wear for a little while if you're recording.
If I'm doing some spots for GMC,

which is a superior vehicle,

especially the new GMC Sierra

AT4X.

Wait, wait, wait. What's the new catch

phrase you've got? It's sophisticated, but

strong? Something like that? Well, it's about...

Speaking of

sophisticated and strong, let's get to our

guests, because he's waiting. Wow.

Hang on. Don't cut off Will with his great story about the progression of the cans.
They get hot is my point. No, that's enough.
We got it. Sean, let's hear the guest.
Okay. Jesus Christ.
Okay. Fuck.
Okay, guys. I'm super excited.
You're like my mom, by the way. You like bring up a subject and I agree with it and then you're like, why are you just talking about that stupid thing? You brought it up.
You fall into our trap. My mom humiliated me the other day with that about sweaters.
Anyway, sorry. Go ahead.
Here we go. This person today.
One more time. He's an amazing human being.
An incredible actor. One of the best actors of our lifetime.
Truly, everybody loves this guy. I've had the immense pleasure of working him many times over the years.
He's won an Emmy. He's been nominated for three Academy Awards.
And he doesn't know it, but I watch him every single night. On reruns of Cheers, it's Woody Harrelson.
Woody! No. Hello.
Oh, boy. Woody! What's up, gentle? Woody! How long? Did you enjoy waiting that long? I really enjoyed it.
I didn't even want to come on. I was, I was trying to keep myself from laughing, but I was laughing.
He took a quick nap. How did Sean, how did Sean beat me and Will to getting you on this show? I know.
We worked together back in the day. Because me and Woody are tight.
You know, you are, you are surprisingly tight with a lot of folks, Sean. Oh, no.
Sean knows everybody. What did you and Sean work on together? We worked on Cheers.
Will and Grace. I'm sorry.
Will and Grace. We worked on Will and Grace, and then we did that live sitcom together where he played Archie Bunker and I played the neighbor.
Oh, no way. Okay, well, why don't we let him answer that? I asked Woody, not you.
He's the guest.

Sorry, sorry.

Well, just in case he didn't remember.

Ditto.

Well, also,

Woody, I was at a party at your house years and years

ago where I made out with Alicia Silverstone.

She was one of the sweetest

people. She knew I was gay.
It was like no big deal.

But we were just being silly. But that's what I remember

of that party. Wait, what? Yeah, hang on.

Sorry, Woody. We'll be to you in one second.

I had no idea. Sean, walk me through what that negotiation was like.
Hey, Alicia. Oh, we were children.
We were children. How old is that? Like early 20s.
Okay. And you said to her, not that she needed to hear it, that you are gay, but that you've forgotten what it's like to kiss a girl's mouth.
And you asked her, would you like to kiss a gay man's mouth? Let's get, let's. Change it up.
We were just, we were being silly. We were, you know, we'd been drinking.
We were young. We were drinking and it was Woody Woody Harrelson's house, and it was fun.
It was a party.

Wow.

Woody, where do we find you today?

You look like you're in a beach community.

No, I'm in Winnipeg.

It's a beautiful day in Winnipeg.

Here comes the Canadian.

Wait a second.

Wait a second.

Wait a second.

Woody, my whole family, both sides of my family are from Winnipeg.

Really?

Yeah.

Okay.

Is there anyone you want me to look up? Yes. Quick, what are their names, Will? Wait, Woody, ask them what their names are.
Yeah, what are their names? He has no idea. That's not true.
I got my cousin Sally, my cousin Joni, and lots of people. You're making all this up in Chachi.
My great aunt. No, no, no.
Go visit my great aunt. What's her name? N.E.N.? N.E.M.? No, we're not doing...
N.E.N. There's a Wizard of Oz polls here.
What are you doing in Winnipeg? I'm doing this movie called Champions with Bobby Fairley's directing. Oh, great.
Yeah. Now, is it one of his newer films that are more dramatic in tone?

Or are we back to Semen in the Hair?

That was the original time.

It didn't clear.

Someone had it already.

So they went with something about Mary.

This is a comedy.

It's a comedy.

Oh, good. Yeah.
Are you all done with Justin Theroux? Yeah. Yeah, we finished that.
Six months we did that. Good Lord.
That was crazy. Because of COVID stuff? Is that why it took so long, or was it a bunch of episodes? Well, there was a couple of shutdowns, actually.
Yeah. Was that due to Thoreau lack of sleeves?

Did that enter into it?

Was that part of the... Yeah.

Why they had to shut it down?

Did the sleeve local come over and shut you down?

Listener, we're talking about a Watergate show

that Woody did with Justin for HBO, I think.

It should be pretty funny.

Yeah.

White House Plumbers.

Oh, I'm very looking forward to that.

Oh, it's going to be great. I got to say, Justin really knocked it out of the park.
Must have been a pretty small park. Dog park.
Dog park. Wait, wait, wait, Woody.
Let me ask you this. I've always wanted to know this about, first of all, great to see you, man.
I'm so happy you're here. Great to see you.
I wanted to get you on this thing so bad, too. And then, so you started, your first big thing was Cheers.
Obviously, you came on after Coach, I forget the actor's name. He was really terrific.
Yeah, Nicholas Calasanto. Yeah, Nicholas Calasanto.
But you came in, and it was like big shoes to fill and you came in woody man and you were shot out of the first episode it felt like you had been on the show forever drilled it you were great i loved you on the show i i mean there's so many i still to this day do kelly kelly kelly kelly kelly k-e-L-Y. I mean, I fucking love it.

How did Cheers come about?

How did it come into your orbit?

How did you audition for?

What was that experience like?

Sorry to go way back, but we have to go back there.

We have to.

And just to tag onto that, Woody, before you answer that,

I didn't know this until I was researching some of the stuff

that you're from Hanover.

So Will's question about how did it start and how did you get it?

And also the Hanover Woody,

obviously they took your name

and they took your hometown too.

Was that your idea, their idea?

Well, the character was already called Woody Boyd.

But, and the character was from Indiana.

I'm not from there,

but I went to college at Hanover.

So I did ask him to use that.

But, you know, to answer your question,

I was, I got a little break from this, uh, show I was doing, or I was an understudy, um, in this, uh, Neil Simon, Biloxi blues. And, uh, so I got a little break to go do a movie with Goldie Hawn.
And, and then as that was wrapping up, they fired the two guys I was understudying. So I was going to get to go on stage, which is, well, that was my dream.
I was 23. Anyway, this buddy of mine, Leo Jeter in LA, I run into him and, you know, my agent hadn't said anything, but he says, you know, there's this part on the show called Cheers that you should look into, you know? And I was like, well, He says, the guy's from Indiana.
He's named Woody. I'm like, yeah.
That's so crazy. And had you seen the show before? Wait, wait, wait.
No way. And the agent commissioned 10% for how many years? Yeah, yeah.
For doing Italy. But, yeah, no.
But anyway, so I was, at the time, I was really into this idea. I'll just do theater.
I will not be, you know, doing television. But then I watched it and I was like, oh man, this is pretty good.
Yeah. And was it a hit? I know it took a while to become a hit, but was it a hit when you joined? Yeah, it had been on for three years.
It was a hit, but it did. Then it kept going, you know, the Archie Bunker thing, was it nice to get back into that rhythm, into that schedule again, into the sitcom stuff and with Jimmy Burroughs and all that? Did it bring back a bunch of memories? Isn't that fun? Yeah, that was really cool.
Getting to work with Jimmy, you know, Sean, I mean, fuck. That was awesome.
But I was a little scared, you know, just, you know, Archie Bunker, you know. Oh, you were so great.
You were so great. Oh, thanks, man.
You were so good. Perfect.
You're never bad. You're never bad.
And, you know, like, I think the public and maybe the industry probably thought they've had you pegged and pigeonholed probably five or six times. And inevitably, your next job is like, wait, he's in what? And he's playing what character? And then you watch it and you're like, Jesus, I never knew Woody had that side.
I mean, there's just nothing you can't do, truly. And I remember seeing you, to Jason's point, you pop up here and there in your career.
and i saw you natural born killers i was like wait that's woody harrelson from cheers and natural born killers and that was one of the best performances i'd ever seen you just it was incredible everything like jason just everything you do is is amazing i mean keep going out of the furnace it's just like crazy good just on and on and on so tell me about natural born killers and what it

was like working with oliver stone because i'm sure you have some insane moments or stories oh there were some insane moments for sure but uh no i i liked working with them he can be a little uh you guys ever hung out with him you must have never you know he tries to stir shit up all the Really?

But I'll give you an example.

Like one time there's this scene where there's all these windows outside of this pharmacy that these cops have me trapped inside this pharmacy. So all the windows get blown out from them shooting at me in the pharmacy, and I'm supposed to run and do whatever.
And so there's huge, giant windows. And it's all three of these mega windows getting blown out.
And Oliver comes to me just before the take and goes, this is an hour and a half reset. Don't fuck it up.
Rolling. Thanks for the pep dog.
Oh, geez. But you nailed it.
Nailed it. You know, Woody, I mean, about that, that whole sort of that, that discipline toggle switch, I think everyone has got a hit, you know, when you're, when you're, when you're doing stuff, you, you come across as someone who just kind of, you know, is real casual about a lot of things in life.
You don't get hung up on a lot of stressful stuff, but there's gotta be a side of you that knows how to flick that switch and just be an assassin when you need to, whether it be just discipline on preparing for work or at the moment, uh, hitting the switch and delivering. Is there a side to you that is a side that you, you don show a lot of us but is sort of your private sort of secret weapon where you can really get small and execute? No.
No? It's all casual. Jason, what you need to know, Jason, is that guys like Woody and me, it just comes to us organically.
We just fucking, we don't think about it. We don't think, we don't, we're not premeditated dude like you.
Woody and I are just operating on a different plane, bro. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Hey Will, by the way, I've seen you in quite a number of things and then I'm like watching the morning show and then you pop up in the morning show.
He's got a high overhead. just what you're doing everything you got a lot of overhead i'm just trying to i'm just trying

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Woody and I have that I can barely remember. So I know, Woody, you probably can't remember because you're, are you, are you, are you older than I am? I'm 52.
How old are you? Yes, I'm older than you, dude. Remember when I met you, you were like 17.
Right. We've got some history.
So, yeah, Woody and I, I think, did we first meet doing the car race? Well, no, I think I met you before that, you know, because I was so overhanging out with Mike and your sister. I might have met you before that, but that's where we really, you know, started to get to know each other was in that.
Yeah, so Justine and I do this car race, this celebrity car race, Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach that Woody was in as well. How'd you do it? I did well.
He won. I think I won that one.
You won that. Yeah.
Yeah. So we were training.
And they didn't test for cocaine back then? Wait, no, Will. So we're training at Willow Springs, and Woody and I are driving the same color car, and Woody drops a couple of wheels over into the dirt on a real high-speed turn, so he skids across the track and does like 14 cartwheels, and his car's ripped apart, like the whole back end, the whole back half was ripped off, and it's upside down, and it's resting on the side of the track.
And all of us cars come driving by it because, you know, he's ahead of us, and's upside down, there's smoke everywhere and you can see him hanging upside down in his driver's chair, hanging from his five-point harness because the whole back half of the car had been ripped off and he's in the same color car as I, and Justine thinks it's me. So she pulls over her car, she's all, she's freaked out, she's screaming and crying and then I come driving up.
I'm like, oh my God, who is that? Is that Woody?'s like, oh, my God, you're alive. Oh, my God, it's Woody.
So we all go and try to help him and get out and all that stuff. Wow.
Yeah, that was a real – that was a scary moment. And I remember you only broke a little bone in your hand.
Is that right? Yeah, I broke two bones in my hand and a couple of teeth got cracked.

But yeah, pretty lucky because everybody saw it,

said they thought it was a fatality.

Because I did.

Well, you know, it was one of those where I looked at my speedometer,

which I shouldn't have done.

Remember turn nine there, Jason?

Yeah, it's flat out. And you could go flat out on turn nine and i looked down at my speedometer and said 105 and then my god when i look back up i'd just gone think just a little bit off the track and then of course i overcompensated which caused the car to skid for a moment and then whoosh just launched and um but 40 feet before it landed because the guys went and looked at the headlights, taillights and everything.
Did six and a half endos after that. And yeah, I did the whole white light thing.
Really? It was incredible. And did that keep you from racing? No, it didn't.
That was just training. We went on and did the race like a few weeks later.
And then he crushed it in the race, of course. Do you still race, Woody? It's all the coke.
No, I don't. I got over it after that.
Yeah, my God. I was shortly behind you.
Oh, and then Woody and I picked up our dangerous escapades probably, what was it, a year later in New York City. We were hanging out late, late, late at night, walking around the streets with a couple of buddies of mine, all banged up.
And you know all those piles of trash, all the trash bags that get put out on the sidewalk? They just, they're like create these big, large lumps of trash bags, like 20 of them. I thought it'd be fun to do like a diving contest into these trash bags, like a flip contest.
Do you remember that, Woody? Am I remembering this correctly? We do like flips and cartwheels into it and land into the bags. Yeah, you were wild, dude.
You were actually wild. I lost my privileges shortly after that.
But you got it together. But we made it.
We made it. We're still making a living.
Yeah, we're still. Good for us.
We're okay. So, Woody, it seems to me like you're one of those guys who just doesn't stop working.
I mean, you're, by the way, you're in Solo, which is one of my favorite movies ever, the Star Wars movie, Solo. Thank you.
You seem to constantly work, never, ever stop. Do you love that? Do you wish like, oh God, I need a break.
It doesn't seem like you ever take a break because you still love it. Well, you know, that's a good question because like, I haven't been home since April.
Imagine not being home since April. Wow.
And you would think that I love nothing more than to work. But honestly, I'm a very lazy hippie who somehow just got himself in this predicament.
And once I get through this, you know, once I make it to Christmas, I'm taking some time off for sure. And then where's home nowadays? Is it Costa Rica? No, I moved from Costa Rica.
I live in Maui. Okay.
Oh, that's great. Yeah.
All right. Oh, that's awesome.
I do have a question from... From a listener? A listener in New York City named Justin T.
Oh, hello, caller. That you may or may not have worked with.
I was chatting with him. He has a question for you.
This is literally his question. I didn't know that we were taking questions from listeners.
It's a random listener named Justin T oh my god he wants to know you're well known for your love and abuse this is his words not mine you're well known for your love and abuse of marijuana and other mind altering substances has work ever gotten in the way of your drug problem and wait andup question, has your drug problem ever suffered as a result of your work? Thank you, caller. Justin T., that's a very insightful question.
As a matter of fact, it does sometimes get in the way

because I'll wake up, I want to wake and bake.

I'll be like, I can't wake and bake.

I can't fucking wake and bake.

Got to wait till lunch.

So yeah, thanks for asking that.

I can't believe that he had time to write that question down

just because he's usually just avoiding paparazzi.

That's his number one job. So the fact that he had the time to write that down god bless uh no but seriously have you have what do you have you ever worked totally stoned like and it's like on cheers or anything where you you're in a scene you're like i don't know where i am oh yeah i uh i i was doing cheers and you know we've been doing it for a while.
So, I don't know, several years. And then I thought we were done and I went up and I was smoking a joint with George Wendt.
And I hear over the intercom, Woody, come down for your monologue in scene C? And I'm like, oh, uh-oh. Oops.
And I go down, and it's like first take, disaster. Second take, worse.
You know, takes me 10 takes. And Jimmy's like, Woody, everything? Yeah, everything's fine, Jimmy.
Everything's fine. Let's just try it again.
You know, so what would have been one simple, you know, it just took like 10 fucking takes. It was a disaster.
So I learned that I can't, you know, all the things that you just take for granted just kind of go out the window. Yeah.
I mean, you probably, Will and Jason, I'm sure, have done cocaine while filming. And, you know, it just doesn't work.
Jason. It's not fun.
I did it once and I spent my whole time trying to not look like I was all beaked up. Beaked up.
I remember we asked Seth Rogen last year. We were like, Sean, you asked him, do you ever gotten high before you work? And he was like, I've never not worked high.
That's crazy. I know.
Is that right? Yes. Yeah.
He said, that's what he said. I heard Chris Walken would get high before doing Shakespeare in the park.
Oh my God. How do you, if you get lost, how do you start improvising in iambic pentameter? Like, how's that work? Wow.
I know, that's crazy. How do you get that back? But I guess the old guys, they used to, all those old Shakespearean actors, those guys used to booze it up like over, you know, on the other side there in the UK.
Those guys used to all get hammered and drank. But I feel like that might be different than weed.
Like weed would, for me, it would be tough to remember my lines. I'd get too distracted probably.
Yeah. It's more about just like going home and powering down for me.
What about a gummy, Jason? Could you do it on a gummy? I might be able to just because, you know, it goes into the blood system a little bit slower. It doesn't punch you in the neck like a big fat hit off a doobie or a bomb.
You know? Yeah. Woody, I think the last time I saw you, this is a great, not much of a name drop,

but the last time I saw you was at your birthday at Bono's place in the south of France.

Is that true?

Yeah, dude.

I was so psyched to see you.

You know, I love Arrested Development.

I fucking love that show.

Love it.

Sean's never seen it.

Thank you, Woody.

Sean has not seen it.

Sean, you got to watch it.

It's really good.

What's it called?

It's a group called Arrested Development. It's a hip-hop band out of Atlanta.
And that moment you had where you come in the window to break up with your teenage girlfriend. With Ann.
And then the next morning it cuts to you're sitting there eating your eggs. And she says, so what was it you wanted to talk to me about? And you're like, well, what is it? And then you get into that, should the guy, should the guy, should the, $35.
I do it all the time, by the way. And people have no idea what I'm doing, and I'm like, I have to then explain, this is actually money.
$3,500 suit. Yeah.
What was confusing about that scene was that I come out and I'm wearing her nightgown, and she's wearing my shirt from the night before. So we realized as we were rolling, I was kind of, I knew that Mitch was going to get what I was trying to do, so that I started to downgrade how much her thing was worth, and then I started to upgrade what she was wearing because she was wearing my shirt.
So it was like such a fucking, like, and then Mitch was like, I can't believe this is happening, But it was so funny to me that I'm like, should the guy? And I start sort of complimenting how much hers is worth. Anyway, so Woody, so we're at Bono's place and there's this big birthday party for Woody.
And his wife's there and his daughter comes in, surprises him. And a bunch of people are there.
And it's a really beautiful night. And Woody's like, oh, man.

And we start laughing about that scene.

And he was doing the scene to me.

And then, like, dinner was served.

And Bono comes over.

And he kept going, guys, dinner's served.

And Woody's on the ground doing the scene.

And finally, I think he got a little bit pissed.

And he was like, hey, Woody, well, you guys can do it over there at the table. And we're like, all right, man, sorry.
We're doing scenes from Arrested Development, Bono. It really, to me, it's one of the, it's maybe the greatest comedic moment ever in television.
Well, there we go. That's nice.
I still watch it and just, I tear up laughing. I love it.

And I know you were going through a hard time that day because you told me.

So it's amazing you were able to do that.

Oh, Will, what happened?

I was having a, that was one of the worst days of my life.

That's true.

I did tell you that that night.

It was a very, I was going through a lot of stuff personally.

Couldn't find the moose for your hair?

Because it was moose back then, right? It was a dep. It was dep.
L'Oreal Spritz. God damn it.
It was fun times. Woody, speaking of lines you quote and stuff, like I said at the beginning when you popped on here that I'm obsessed with chairs.
I've seen every episode so many times and what you achieved

we touched on this a little bit before you achieved what a lot of actors in tv don't do which is kind of cultivate a massive gigantic film career afterwards what did that kind of happen to you did you seek it out like how what how did that transition happen for you Well, I mean, I guess we're all seeking it out, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

So, but, you know, it really was, I got to do Doc Hollywood with Mike, Michael Fox, and then that did well. Yeah.
And then it was lucky that I played basketball. You know, my agent told me later, you know, all those times I was trying to get you and you were down playing hoops down in Santa Monica or whatever, you know, paid off because of white men can't jump.
And Ron Shelton, who actually, I call it, I guess it was Bush War One at the time was going on and he had heard me, you know, protest it. I said something like the war on terrorism is terrorism, which upset a lot of people and caused me to lose, you know, lucrative other things that were going on.
It didn't matter, but Ron Shelton very much liked it. I was glad I did that.
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All right. So there's Ron Shelton.
He puts you in White Men Can't Jump. That is hugely successful.
Huge, huge. And then on from there, right? Yeah.
I mean, it hasn't stopped. That's there been has there been a slow period that that was not by design has it slowed down for you it was uh after people versus larry flint um so things uh kind of because that was disappointing to uh sony even though a lot of people maybe watched it after, you know, but at the time they didn't.

And also it was really, Gloria Steinem had gone on a, went from one place to another

all over the country, telling people not to see it.

This is Op-Ed, which was devastating.

And anyway, so people would tell me,

look, I'd like to watch it,

but my wife won't let me see it.

So that was a real...

God, isn't that weird?

Things kind of went down after that.

And that was also when I decided,

oh, I'm going to just stop working for a while.

So I did for five years.

Weren't you nominated for that?

Yeah.

Yeah, you were nominated for an Oscar and things went down after that. Wait, wait, wait.
Hang on a second. You cut them off.
So for five years? Woody, five years? You basically? Yeah, from like around 97 to 02. Other than I did one thing, which I'm glad I did for Ron Howard, Ed TV, you know, which is where I got to know Matthew.
And then I did one other little thing. Other than that, yeah, I didn't work.
Oh, and I did theater. I was like, I want to get in touch with my roots, you know.
So like from around 97 to 2002, yeah, I didn't do anything. and probably, you know, the from around 97 to 2002 yeah i i didn't do anything and probably you know the phone wasn't ringing off the wall or anything during that time yeah and then when i started when i came back to work again i was like you know i'm not expecting a ticker tape parade or anything but i thought there'd be no i.
It was completely, I was completely forgotten. And I was just trying desperately to get anything.
And anyway, it was a slow. What was the first big thing that restarted it? Well, I did this movie, um, after the sunset, uh, Pierce Brosnan, Sam Hayek, uh, Brett Ratner.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
And, yeah. And even though it didn't do that well, I think it started, you know, just kicking things off.
You know how it goes, guys. You know.
Yeah, it's up and down. Yeah, well, I'm sure.
But you know what's great, Woody's? I bet that people, like, love to take credit of going, like, that they rediscovered you. Like, yeah, you know, Woody, yeah, Woody be really great.
Like, you haven't changed. You've been great since you started.
And it's like everything else takes, you know, it's so funny, perspective is fucking crazy because you do that, People vs. Larry Flint, and as Sean said, you were awesome.
Obviously, you were nominated. You were awesome.
My recollection, seeing that film in the theater, was how great it was and how great you were. And if you were to ask me, like, well, if you were to say, like, what, you know, how is Woody Harrell?

Oh, he's great, man.

Yeah, he just did that People vs. Larry Flynn.

He was incredible.

He was nominated.

He's a great actor, and he's so good, and he's so diverse, and he can do kind of anything.

And when the reality of your perspective is totally different, and it's so fucking crazy, and it's so subjective, right? I mean, it's bizarre. It's gig to gig still.
Yeah. Always.
Yeah. Always.
It's crazy. Always.
Jason's about to take five years off. He didn't know it.
Oh, no. Yeah.
Yeah. Shit.
Yeah, I just talked to Showbiz. They said you're taking five years off.
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Let me switch for a second into, I know that you've got some beliefs and some passions in sort of like a lot of sort of our environmental stuff, and I do as well. And if you're like me, sometimes you get a little bit frustrated with the slow pace of things.
How do you manage your happiness or lack of based on the progression or lack of on sort of tackling some of these things that are really kind of existential? We don't want to get into politics too much. We don't like to on this show that much.
But I'm just wondering if you've got a tip for me, is it about not watching the news or not reading the paper to see the slow pace of things, or is it the opposite? How do you manage your frustration? Well, I mean, I do feel like the world's kind of going to hell in a handbasket. And I feel like sometimes, you know, with the global warming and you see the effect of it even here where it's unnaturally warm, although it's fucking freezing balls here.
For them, it's unnaturally warm. And, you know, you see it everywhere.
You see the signs of it. It's not a mystery that the global warming is having a devastating impact.
And all these predictions that were made, you know, 30 years ago, 40 years ago are coming true. And then, you know, people say, well, you know, well, things are moving.
Well, I don't know. I mean, it seems like the big oil companies and all the giant frickin' industries that have raped Mother Earth on a daily basis forever, it seems like they just keep doing business as usual, and I don't see changes happening.
So how do you manage your frustration with that? I don't know. I think about, I really.
But I was going to say, Jason, I was going to say one of the things, and Woody, you can speak to this. You know, I remember when we did semi-pro 10, 12 years ago with Will Ferrell and you had that, your bus, which I think you still have that you use as your trailer.
And Woody's got this bus that runs, that runs on vegetable oil. Biodiesel.
Biod like a cork floor it's got all this stuff it's like renewable you've been doing it you've been kind of walking the walk for a long time and it's like yeah the first you know the thing that you can do is everybody could do it if everybody thought like that more it's it's about changing and once again changing we approach stuff. Right.
Yeah. I mean, I think it really has to do with how we feed, how we feed ourselves, uh, you know, how we feed ourselves planetarily, you know, what our fuel is and also what our personal fuel is, uh, I think is also incredibly important.
What would they say they saying? I was watching on the news the other day that growing cows for food is two-thirds of the world's pollution. Is that right? What it takes to farm cows? Is that right? Or is it one-third? Something like that? Well, I think it's a huge thing.
The methane generated from cows.

And what is that?

Is it like from their poop?

Is that the methane?

Yeah, I think it's from just their... Really?

Yeah.

Meanwhile, throw it on your flowers and it's okay.

Cow crap is killing our planet.

Is that right?

It's their farts.

It's the farts.

Cow farts.

The farts.

You know, farting, there was a time when farting was really funny. Yeah, now it's killing us.
Now it's killing us. Woody, what type of stuff are you eating nowadays? Are you a full vegan? Oh, yeah.
Well, I've been a vegan since 1990, January 1. But I'm mostly raw.
I try to eat mostly raw. You know, you got to like a salad if you're eating mostly raw.
Yeah, I love salad. I just, you know, I want to eat as clean as possible, you know, to compensate for my other issues.
Pollutions? Uh-huh. Now, do you find it difficult to get raw, clean food as you travel around the world? I imagine it's got to be a lot easier in the major cities.
But when you're on location in different parts, you have to bring food with you or you have like a cook or something like that? Yeah, I have a chef here named Mish Cole. She's great.
Yeah. Uh-huh.
But yeah, I know, I know. It's a little bit of a privileged lifestyle, guys.
I guess it is. No, no, but it's difficult.
You have to apologize to us. Yeah, I know.
You're the privileged, of course. Yeah.
I know. Now, Woody, let me ask you this.
Now, when you do go city to city, how do you get your weed? Do you have connects in every city? That's what I need to know. It's legal everywhere, isn't it? Most places it's legal.
You know, look, I mean, I used to carry it with me, which was a stupid move. But, and then I realized at one point, oh my God, it's everywhere.
Now, is it legal up in Canada? Yeah, it's legal. Oh, there you go.
So you just go down to the store. You just pick up some milk and do that.
I remember when you had me, you of your spirulina or something like that. Yeah, that stuff's good.
I almost fucking threw up. That's sea algae.
It gives you nice energy. It's good for you.
It's really good for you. You mix it up with stuff.
Woody, before I forget, Freak Brothers. It's a new cartoon you're in with John Goodman, Tiffany Haddish.
What? Who else is in it? Pete Davidson is in it. Fucking that's crazy.
It looks great. You and John Goodman, perfect.

I love that because you guys are both so sad.

What cartoon is that?

What's it on?

It's called Freak Brothers.

What is it on?

Tubi, right?

Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers.

Yeah, it's on Tubi.

Tubi.

Do I have Tubi?

Hey, can we get that as an audio bite, guys?

Rob, just peg that. Just remember that.
Do I have Tubi? That's their tagline. Do I need to go on hypochondriactor to figure out if I've got Tubi or not? No, I want to get this on a clip so I can be like Fred on Howard Stern where I can just keep clicking.
Do I have Tubi? How does one get Tubi? Oh, my God. Keep going.
You're asking me how to get Tubi? Yeah, man. You're the spokesman.
What he doesn't know? What he said, Tubi, with a question mark on the end. What did he get an app for? I don't know.
Just ask one of your assistants to download it for you there. Yeah, man.
Wait, what did he go back? I want to talk about Matthew McConaughey. I didn't know you guys were so close.
You guys are good buds, right? You and Matthew? Yeah. Speaking of you and Matthew, are you aware of what you have done for this industry with what you guys did with True Detective in making the limited series a cool thing? Yeah, the television space for like when two big shot film actors like you guys and, like, I would equate it to when Fincher did House of Cards on Netflix.

The combination of those two things, I think, will, it's just expanded so much more, so many more places for everyone to work.

Well, it made it feel okay and not like, because there used to always be that thing of, like, it wasn't cool to do.

And then you guys came in.

I do film, I don't do TV.

Unapologetically, you guys fucking kill it. God, I love that.
What do you, you and Matthew and that thing was so good. Oh, thank you.
Such a great job. Yeah.
It was so good. Fucking good.
And then it's just like, made it okay for everybody to do that. Yeah.
That was huge. Did you love doing that project? Yeah.
I mean, you know, there were times I would get kind of angry with Matthew. You know, one of my best buddies, so it felt weird.
But he was in character, and that fucking character just made me want to fucking slap him. He's so good, you know, that he'd stay in character.
You know, not after work, but while we were at work, you know, there wasn't like, hey buddy, you know, none of that. So that was a little, but anyway, it turned out good.
Yeah. Did you have a sense while you were doing it, how good it was and what the style of it was, or did Cary Fukunaga sort of not really, was it, was it not not that clear you had to really watch a lot of playback to get a sense of it or could you tell while you were shooting it i mean i thought it was going to be good but you know it's rare you find a thing like hit the zeitgeist like that that that's extreme i mean you have it already you know you got ozark you got the uh arrested development uh know you you're mr zeitgeist jason but for the rest of us it's a very it's a very rare uh so yeah it was wild i had no idea that it would be you know that kind of thing and i i thought it did turn out really good so good yeah fantastic you're so great now so um what about um i want to know because these guys hate it hate this but i'm a huge huge huge star wars freak and when you were in solo i was like oh my god that's so cool and um were you uh a fan of it before or were you just like i'd say what is pretty close to our to today's new harrison ford i i would i would annoy him the new harrison ford right if you cast Han Solo today, I'd put Woody Harrelson.
That's a big thing to say. That's a big thing to say.
Yeah. I'm sorry.
Go ahead. Wow.
Thank you. Do I have to be? It's from that guy.
That's where your compliment came from. No, I want to know if you were a fan of the Star Wars franchise or were you kind of a fan and just was like, oh, I could learn to like this or whatever.
No, I was kind of a fan. I wasn't like a mega fan because these fans out here of the Star Wars stuff, I mean, those guys are pretty serious.
So I don't think it's fair to call myself that kind of fan, but I, you know, I liked it, of course. Wasn't there a director swap in the middle there? And you had to redo a bunch of stuff, right? With Ron, Ron Howard.
Yeah, that was a long, long shoot, I'll bet. It was.
It was like maybe nine, ten months total by the time we were done. Yeah, at least nine months retooling it.
How did you like living in England that long? Yeah, and I'd been there on a project just before, so I was in London for a year. Wow.
Which, you know, I like London, but that was a year. Wait, what, you did that thing? Didn't you do a live TV thing? Was that the thing you were doing before? Yeah, that's what I did before, yeah.
It was cool. What was that deal? Yeah, it's called Lost in London.
I wrote it and directed it. And yeah, it went live in the theaters, which was cool.
That had never happened. Oh, wow.
Yeah. I remember that.
Yeah, how did you like doing that? Was it more stress than it was was worth or was it super exciting? Well, yeah, you know, it was like theater, but like on a, you know, on another scale with 500 extras and 500 crew and, you know, it was wild. The stress nearly, nearly killed me.
I got to say, I don't know when I've ever been that fucking stressed. All kinds of shit.
The sound wouldn't work. I got to see that.
And we did a run through the night before. The video goes out for 45 minutes.
The feed. I mean, it's like...
So this was basically a live movie that you were beaming into movie theaters? Yeah. Wow.
Where did that idea come from? That sounds like a total, like masochistic. It was masochistic.
Well, I had already decided I wanted to do it in a one-er, you know? So it was a single camera. And I'd already decided.
And then someone else mentioned, a buddy of mine, Tom Kartsotis, mentioned, hey, why don't you just beam it right into a theater while you, what? That's a crazy idea. And then started finding out, you know, went to different people to see if it could be done.
And everybody was like, well, no, it can't be done. And then finally someone said yes.

So awesome. Did that kill the desire to direct anything else after that,

or did you go on and direct other stuff?

Well, I would like to direct something else,

but I don't want to do it in a one-er.

Or live.

I'd rather have multiple tapes.

There's a million things I would have done different, honestly.

But it turned out pretty good.

Yeah. And Owen Wilson's in it, and Willie Nelson.
It was good. I'd love to see that.
I know. How cool is that? I think you can find it on Tubi or something.
Jason, do you have Tubi? Wait, I don't know. Do I have Tubi? Oh, my God.
It's my favorite. Woody, we've taken a lot of your time today.
I really appreciate you being here, and I know you're stuck in Winnipeg working, so please get some rest. Don't stay stuck in Winnipeg.
To all our friends in Winnipeg, we love you. We support you, especially my family.
Woody, I'm going to send you some people you've got to go see. Yeah, send me the people.
Oh, I'm sure he's going to love that. Oh, great.
Obligate him to a couple of at-home dinners. Do they cook raw?

I mean, come on, Will.

Do they cook raw?

They got to uncook it.

Well, I'd sure love to see you in person when you're done up there in Canada.

And maybe while you're switching planes down here on your way to Maui,

just let us know.

We'll meet you down at LAX.

I would love that. Woody, come to town and come to hang out with us, man.
Come on, Woody. I would love it.
Do you guys ever hang out with each other or just always zooming in? Last night, always. Just last night.
No, last night. Every night.
Wednesday night and Thursday night, every night. These are the only people we see live.
You'd fit right in. Come on in.
This has really been a pleasure. I gotta say, you know, I hate doing interviews, but this was a fucking fun one.
Thank you so much, guys, for making it so fun. I can't remember one question we asked you.
I know, but wow, I'm glad you did it. We love you, Woody.
You're the best. Yeah, I love you, pal.
Thanks, Will. Love you too, man.

Sean, love you, brother.

Jason, what a pleasure.

Love you.

Love you, pal.

And guys, see you next time.

See you at LAX.

See you next time, Wood.

Okay, buddy.

All right.

Okay, pal.

Bye, buddy.

See you, pal.

I love Woody.

Who doesn't?

He's the best.

He's such a great dude. I know.
It's terrible that he lives all the way out there in Maui. I didn't know he lived there.
Let's pitch in and get him a small studio apartment in Los Angeles so he can spend more time in L.A. and more time with us.
Yeah, we'll get him a place like in North Hollywood, just like a nice little unassuming so it won't cost us much. 500 square feet.
by the way, let's get wise. Let's go visit him in Maui.
What are we doing? That sounds smarter. That sounds better.
And we'll go... I do feel like we should be seeing more of him and we never do.
We see him on the big screen. On the TV.
And the big screen. And Tubi, don't forget.
Oh my God. Do you? Do I Tubi? Do you have Tubi do you have i would love to tubi i know you would it's not enough snow out there to by the way this is turned into an ad for tubi they should be so lucky what it what is but how would you pronounce how do you pronounce that i on oh that's quick let's get right to it do you not want to are you done you don't want to talk he was your guest i think well it's not it's not speltB-E, right? It's spelled, if you were to say it like it's spelled, Sean, what would it sound like? To buy! Buy! Buy! Buy! Smart.
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