"Daniel Ricciardo"

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Speaker 2 Hey guys, what's up? Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 1 Hey, we're out to a show.

Speaker 2 Sorry, I'm just trying to be quick. I'm trying to move with alacrity.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. Okay, so I'm Sean.
I'm Will. Are we in a row? Are we late for our guests or something like that? No, it's just we got to get to the show.

Speaker 2 It's like people are waiting to get to the show and then they got to get through this BS first. So we're trying to get to the thing.
It's Smartlist.

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Speaker 2 What if people are watching this at night and they are listening to it at night and watching anything? They're listening to it. What if they want to react? Just start the shower ball.
Mug on a swing.

Speaker 2 Smart.

Speaker 2 Listener, Will's in what we call a whisper booth in the biz, where he's got a sort of a fold-up

Speaker 2 sort of a fabric closet that he can get, you know, he can do all his VO work remotely, wherever he is on the planet. For some reason, he's got a white stick, one that a person without sight might use.

Speaker 2 Use, right? What is that for? Go ahead, Will. It's a light.
Oh, it's a light for what?

Speaker 1 To light yourself?

Speaker 2 No, it's just like a light fixture that I don't use, and it's in the background. So sometimes you see this part, the white part of it, and it makes Jason crazy.
Not sometimes. Always.

Speaker 2 Sean, I don't know if you noticed we had a meeting the other day, the three of us, with somebody else, right? And during the meeting,

Speaker 2 I saw it out of the corner of my eye and I brought it into frame just because I knew it made Jason crazy. Listen, it will, obviously.
It is not your fault. You're doing nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 I'm just, it's more of a comment on how crazy I am. Wow.
This is unbelievable growth from you. Yeah.
I hope you're not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 I kind of wish it wasn't a land. I wish it was something else that you needed it to get something from off a high shelf or something.

Speaker 2 Oh, right.

Speaker 2 Maybe you were losing your sight and you just wanted to have the stick nearby in case it takes full hold.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, no, no.
I mean, I'm blessing that. Wait, sorry, Sean.
I feel like you've got something you really need to talk about i do i really want to say i really got some really great news okay um

Speaker 2 i got an antibodies test yesterday to see where i am with my antibodies off the charts really super strong antibodies did you guys get tested i did i got tested recently tested all the time no no but for your antibodies is that a separate test yeah yes yeah i have been tested for antibodies it's good right it's it was good i mean you've been vaccinated it makes me feel real safe yeah i'm vaccinated sean's vaccinated no i know but the antibodies the next i vaccinated sean yeah he doesn't trust anybody with a needle but me right

Speaker 1 and he does it he he comes over at night to put me to sleep with some extra special something

Speaker 2 yeah yeah protocol what is it will protocol

Speaker 2 go husband

Speaker 2 get the rest out

Speaker 2 and you guys do that on a drip or is it a tablet or

Speaker 1 no it's a drip it's a drip Does he ever cook it up for you?

Speaker 2 And he sometimes

Speaker 2 sometimes. You guys are the worst.

Speaker 2 You're the worst. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I miss you guys. I got to say, I really miss you guys.
I know we haven't seen each other.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I miss you too. You guys are warming me up.
I've come onto this episode in a bad mood this morning. No, it's okay.

Speaker 2 Well, listen, I love you guys, and I'm happy that we have, that our guest today is some. I'm really excited.
Hopefully, this guest is a ray of sunshine, can bring me from my. No, I can say he is.

Speaker 2 Now, I've never met this guy, but from what I know, he is a ray of sunshine. Is that what it said on his breakdown when you swiped left? That's what it's

Speaker 2 the first line in his profile.

Speaker 2 Hello.

Speaker 1 I'm a ray of sunshine.

Speaker 2 I'm a fan of this guy for a while now. And Jason, you're kind of responsible for it in a way.
And you'll find out why in a second. And I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 And I kept asking, like, what is the day that he's coming on? What's the day he's coming on? Because I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 He's got great energy about him, which is one of the things I really liked when I was watching him do what he does, was his energy. But on top of that, he's really good at what he does.

Speaker 2 In fact, he's incredible, and I can't imagine doing what he does.

Speaker 2 Our friend is an Australian. He's from down under.
David Blaine.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 He has won a number

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 2 big championships in what it is that he does. Uh-oh.
He has been at the top of his game for 10 years since he moved from Australia to Europe to pursue becoming the world's greatest race car driver.

Speaker 2 He's won so many Grand Prix, including the Monaco Grand Prix. I don't want to wait any longer.
Our guest is Daniel Ricardo. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Formula One. Jesus.
Driver Daniel.

Speaker 2 Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 And look at Daniel. This is a big star, you guys.
This is

Speaker 2 a star struck. Wow.
Will, you must be. Will, are you, do you have anything on underneath frame?

Speaker 2 It's just the shirt today, I'll bet, right?

Speaker 2 God, Will's a big F1 fan listener.

Speaker 1 Do you know each other from before this?

Speaker 2 No, we've never met.

Speaker 2 Daniel, what a pleasure. Let me just start by saying, Daniel,

Speaker 2 welcome to Smartlist. We're so excited to have you.
It's a pleasure to meet you. How are you?

Speaker 3 I'm very well. I'm very well, thanks.

Speaker 2 This is awesome.

Speaker 3 That was quite an intro. And I got pressure on now.
I'm supposed to be a ray of sunshine, so I'll give it my best.

Speaker 2 Look at the smile. Look at the teeth and the smile.
What a great smile you got. Your smile is incredible.
It's the greatest smile in Formula One, potentially in all of sport.

Speaker 2 So much so that you should be allowed to race without a helmet just so we don't, so we can see you always going around the turn, smiling.

Speaker 2 200 miles an hour. Yes, they love it.
Oh, my God. So what part of the world do we have you in? Listener, if you're not familiar with Formula One,

Speaker 2 these rock stars travel around the world to do these races every other weekend, I want to say, because they wouldn't be able to do it every weekend because the apparatus that they have to put on these big, huge 747s, I think one, I think you get a 70, 747 per team.

Speaker 2 We're going to find out. We're going to find out.
But I mean, anyway, so where are you in the world?

Speaker 3 I'm in Monaco at the moment. So Monaco's like

Speaker 3 a little bit of a hub for tax haven. I guess race car drivers and that.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 any other athletes live there any other rich people looking to um

Speaker 2 save a bit there it's there's a lot of cyclists and tennis players yeah yeah and a lot of like german counts and stuff like that so so so daniel so you're in monaco that's your home base you grew up in australia You grew up in Perth, Australia, right?

Speaker 2 On the West Coast.

Speaker 2 And you got into,

Speaker 2 tell us a little bit about how you got in. How do you become a Formula One driver? Yeah, I want to know everyone.
Every person person who's in Perth, Australia to Formula One.

Speaker 2 What was that trajectory? Like, how old were you when you started, et cetera?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's absolutely one of the most weird sports.

Speaker 3 So it basically started in go-karting.

Speaker 2 Oh, really?

Speaker 3 But it was more like as a kid, like, I loved... I just liked going fast.
Like, I loved the adrenaline of even if it was like riding a pushbike down a hill, like all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 I was just like, let me go fast fast because that, that's what I enjoy to do. And when I was,

Speaker 3 yeah, like eight, nine years old, I basically begged mom and dad to get me a go-kart.

Speaker 3 And at the time, it was just to like, you know, maybe after school some days, they'll take me down to the track and just let off some steam.

Speaker 1 But let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 Even before that, because they all look like Hot Wheels. Right.
They all look like those little kind of cars that you race like at home.

Speaker 1 Did you ever play with those?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. I was like a massive nerd for that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 So it went from that to go-karts.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 But were you, were you like, were you a kid, like when you were a baby? I'll tell you why I'm asking this. So my toddler, my son, who's 14 months old, and I have two older boys.

Speaker 2 I've never seen anything like it. He's obsessed with the, his first word was car.
He wakes up in the morning, he points to outside, he wants to go in the car.

Speaker 2 And I'm not joking, the last two weeks has been I take him out and he wants to sit in the drive, stand in the driver's seat, and he holds onto the steering wheel and he's good for 25 minutes.

Speaker 2 And he says like four words. It's all he wants wants is to be in a car.

Speaker 2 What was the second word? Lawsuit. Lawsuit.

Speaker 2 Lawsuit, strangely.

Speaker 3 So, Will, you're in trouble.

Speaker 3 Not for the lawsuit, for the cast off.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I kind of left out some information in the first part.
So my dad loved cars. He raced a little bit, not professionally, but just as a hobby, I guess.

Speaker 2 Sean, your dad was pretty good at driving pretty fast away from the home.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 2 Some say, some say if you listen closely, you can hear it. You can hear the engine receding.
Healing away. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The screech carries. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Go ahead.

Speaker 3 Even before I came on, I was just listening, obviously, and I could listen and just, I'm sure you guys have a lot of banter, let's say.

Speaker 2 We're just such bored people with very

Speaker 2 much caffeine in our body.

Speaker 2 Most boring, dumb people on the three narcissists that like to hear their own voice so your dad we're not even letting you talk please we're not even so your dad was a car your dad was into racing a little bit not professionally and you were like at an early age you're like let me upstage my dad go on continue your words

Speaker 3 yeah so i so i guess like the truth is if he had the opportunity to race as when he was young, I'm sure he would have.

Speaker 3 It was his passion. And still to this day, like he knows more about cars than I do.
Like he's, he's the proper, proper enthusiast. And I'm, I mean, loves to, I mean, yeah, I won't sell myself short.

Speaker 3 I grew up watching it on TV when I was

Speaker 3 yeah, probably like your son, two, three years old. And it was like the noise.
It was the, and then if I'll go to the racetrack to watch dad, it was the smell.

Speaker 3 Like there was so many, so many kind of senses that I was just in love with.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Jason, you like, you like to smell.
You like to sniff what we call sniff gasoline, right? That was a boy.

Speaker 2 It's actually, it's huffing, but

Speaker 2 that's how he gets up in the morning. Right.
And then, and Sean, and then your, your sent there was alcohol, right? And then the sound of the door shutting, and then, and then the exhaust.

Speaker 2 You can smell the exhaust as it is receding.

Speaker 2 And just a very distant, fuck you.

Speaker 2 Wait, so Daniel, so, so, but so you do go, kerting, your parents take you out, all of a sudden, what age was it that people

Speaker 2 in Perth were like, you know, check this guy. He's gone really, really fast.

Speaker 2 This guy should be going to formula one like what was that moment that people had that conversation when they said crikey just like i did yeah who said crikey first

Speaker 2 who said this bogan should be racing overseas

Speaker 3 your accent's good uh so yeah from when i was pretty much born i had a passion for it and a love for it but i think even through like my teenage years so i was racing go-karts but i wasn't maybe i didn't have like massive self-confidence at that point.

Speaker 3 I was winning some races, but I wasn't the, I wasn't like dominating the Australian scene, so to speak. I was one of like the guys, but not the one.

Speaker 3 So then I was kind of like, all right, if I'm not like dominating in Australia, how am I going to take it to Europe where the real like hub is for motorsport, at least for Formula One related.

Speaker 3 So I basically got to, I was probably like 16.

Speaker 3 And I was really, I was enjoying racing more than anything else I was doing. And at school,

Speaker 3 I wasn't really

Speaker 2 focusing on your studies?

Speaker 2 Sorry. You weren't really focusing on your studies?

Speaker 3 Well, I tried, kind of.

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 3 You're looking at me really seriously.

Speaker 2 Well, no. I mean, Jason, listen, honestly, for Jason, his studies were in the back of a trailer on the Warner Brothers lot.
So, like, that was, he understands what how.

Speaker 2 I was saying, you know, you know, make sure you're in your key light and don't shadow the other actor and all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and, you know, lunchtime, we're going into Grace. He understood all this stuff was part of his school experience.

Speaker 2 So, so you're not striving at school, you're 16, you're not the number one guy in Australia. Are you even the number one guy in Western Australia?

Speaker 3 I was definitely up there.

Speaker 3 Like, I was in the group, and I guess there, I guess, long story short, I probably hit a point where I kind of just started finishing school 16, 17, and I kind of flipped a bit of a switch in terms of just like personal maturity.

Speaker 3 I kind of grew up and I was quite like young, immature.

Speaker 2 What's that like?

Speaker 3 I'm still figuring it out.

Speaker 2 How old are you now?

Speaker 3 32.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then I had kind of, there was a moment where I was like, all right, I'm going to go all in on this. And I did like a one-off race in Europe.

Speaker 3 And I think that was my, in a way, my fear was kind of thinking that. the European guys were so much better and I kind of had no chance.
And I surprised myself when I did this race.

Speaker 3 I finished fifth out of, I don't know, probably 35.

Speaker 3 And it was kind of like the best of my age group at the time. And then that was like, all right.
So I moved to Europe the following year and basically went all in.

Speaker 2 You're one of those people. This is the heart of a champion.
You needed more competition. You needed, because those, you weren't getting it.

Speaker 2 And look, this is not a slight to your countrymen down in Oz, but it kind of is. They weren't giving you the competition that you needed.
You needed to go to the big leagues.

Speaker 2 And once you got there, that kind of

Speaker 3 awoke something inside you and you're like oh i can do this and once you had that first taste of success it probably you probably never looked back a little bit in terms of confidence right i'm guessing yeah like 100 that that race gave me so much more um because like for us we put like europe on a pedestal as far as the the motor racing and so when i was like yeah i was kind of convinced myself i could do it So then when I moved to Europe, I was like, I was so disciplined, so strict.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 a few other guys, whether they were from Australia or from other parts of the world, let's say not Europe. Yeah.
There were some young kids who were kind of living.

Speaker 3 I was living in Italy at the time and there was a few living there as well. There was like a training kind of facility.

Speaker 3 And yeah, like I could see the tendency, like, okay, we're away from family, away from our parents. We're 17 years old and there was a bit of partying and this and that.

Speaker 3 And I was just, I was like, nah.

Speaker 2 I'm here to win.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't know. I just, as I said, I kind of flipped a switch.
And yeah, I was, that was the best.

Speaker 1 I want to go back to, because you think I'm joking but I'm not I really really really do want to do one of those things where you buy like an hour around a racetrack or something you know you go to those racetracks and you can race yourself sure and I really do want to try that what was that like the very very first time did you do it at your dad's where your dad raised like did you get in a car by yourself and he said okay great let's just try this and what was that like so it's like the The one word I'll associate racing with is freedom,

Speaker 3 especially at a young age, you know, like you're controlling this machine. And even though, like, you got a helmet on, you know, you still get some like sort of the wind in your face.

Speaker 3 And it's like, it's a, it's a free feeling. And that's, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 Talk to me about the euphoria of freedom and controlling that machine and gliding through the turns.

Speaker 2 You have to marry that with a management of fear too, because to really compete, you've got to sort of live on that

Speaker 2 sort of the limits of adhesion, right? Where the tire will sort of, you're pressing it too far and the tire loses adhesion to the road and you spin off and you'll hit the wall.

Speaker 2 So you have to constantly feel that literally in your seat

Speaker 2 where the car is and risk going just a little bit further, a little bit deeper into the turn. All that stuff.
How do you, is it, are you just not worried about it? How did, tell me about that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and by the way, Daniel, and Jason knows this because he actually won the Long Beach

Speaker 2 celebrity. He beat Richard Klein from from Three's Company and Tommy Katain

Speaker 2 in a qualifying. It was incredible.
I don't know if you've seen the replay. But anyway, I think you're actually right with those names.
He's done a little bit of racing himself.

Speaker 2 Back before

Speaker 2 gasoline was invented. But what is that fear? Is that real?

Speaker 3 So I'm not blowing smoke, but the way you put that forward was beautiful.

Speaker 2 Like I would

Speaker 3 have guessed you were an engineer or something.

Speaker 1 That was, how did you...

Speaker 2 I started at Pirelli and then I discovered acting but

Speaker 3 I'm confused because that was really that was quite quite something.

Speaker 2 Well I am always interested how you can tell when you drive with somebody whether they are when they're steering a car whether they're trying to literally just stay in between the lanes and so they're constantly adjusting the wheel to stay in the middle of the lane where some people drive they're looking much further down the road and they're just kind of generally going in that direction and they're kind of gliding a little bit and they're kind of at one with the car you can just see it just driving around on the streets and is that kind of how you you just kind of marry yourself to that seat and the whole car and you are one thing or or is it much more technical than that no you've basically nailed it that's really good awareness so we have yeah you should fist pump yeah ours is great i guess i mean what the fuck are you talking about by the way i know you live in in los angeles part of the time so next time you if you feel like some eyes burning in the back of your head, it's Jason watching you drive.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just watch you.

Speaker 2 So tell me what you do with that fear. What do you do with that fear? Do you just put it behind you because you can't win with it?

Speaker 3 Yeah, pretty much. I think because, I mean, the first time you get into a go-kart, so for me, eight years old, you're aware of already like the risk and the danger.

Speaker 3 And so that fear is something now that I've... call it lived with my whole, let's say, racing career.
And it's somewhere in the back. And I think sometimes like you need a little bit of that fear.

Speaker 2 Let's access it today. Let's access the fear today.
Let's get right. Will likes to make guests cry.

Speaker 2 What about when you're driving these really, really expensive cars? I mean, the go-karts were expensive at eight, I'm sure, but now you really have a good sense of what a dollar is worth.

Speaker 2 And these cars are multi-million dollar cars. You go into a turn and you get loose.
There's hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage done on that car.

Speaker 2 What's that process like? I mean, obviously some crashes are assumed and there's a backup car and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 But the day after or the week after, is there ever like a little like, can we talk to you for a second?

Speaker 2 You know, the budget this year, you've crashed four times. It's cost us $14 million.

Speaker 2 Are you ever talked to about like your responsibility for the crashes and the money and all that stuff? Does that happen?

Speaker 3 Fortunately,

Speaker 3 I don't do it often. So

Speaker 3 I haven't had that. But that sounds really like arrogant design.

Speaker 2 No, but does it happen? Do you hear about it in your industry that a driver will get pulled aside or be asked to leave a team because they're just costing him too much money?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think there's like the difference of being reckless

Speaker 3 and then there's the difference of exploring the limit.

Speaker 3 And I think a team will, especially in the early days, like a team will respect you for, okay, not crashing every weekend, but if you do have a crash every so often, but because you're testing the limit and really trying to get everything out of yourself and the car.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Or that particular setup on the car with suspension or tires or whatever, they would go, oh, okay, you know, he's just trying to see work. Exactly.

Speaker 2 Speaking of that, so what do you think about, and again, we can, we can totally take this out, Daniel, but just what do you think about a couple weeks ago,

Speaker 2 I think it was at Silverstone when, you know, when Lewis made that move on Verstapen and Verstapen ended up crashing out. Like that was a very aggressive move by Lewis.

Speaker 2 And people calling him out and saying that he did not make the right move in that moment. Well, they're racing in that moment.
That's kind of what they're there to do. Do you agree with that?

Speaker 2 Or do you think somebody was being too aggressive? Let's get Sean's opinion first.

Speaker 1 Well, I want to know if you'd want to know what race car backwards is.

Speaker 2 Uh-oh, here we come. Race car.
Yeah, thanks. Hey.
Go ahead, answer Will's question. What's that called? That's called a palindrome? Yeah.
Yeah. Great.

Speaker 1 That's all I was thinking about.

Speaker 2 There's the part we'll cut out.

Speaker 2 So, but, but you know, like, but it goes to sort of the crashing and stuff and being aggressive in those moments. And that was something that just happened the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 What do you think about aggressive driving like that?

Speaker 3 And in like that particular moment, so I'll go to that one and then I'll kind of talk about it in general.

Speaker 3 So that one was, you'd call it like a racing incident, I think, because so those two have been going at it all year.

Speaker 3 So they're they're currently fighting for the championship and they've been pushing the absolute edge with each other. And it was kind of, I feel everyone felt like it was inevitable.

Speaker 3 At some point, we got 20-something races this year. At some point, they're going to have a moment.
So I think that was it. And it all obviously happens so quick.

Speaker 3 I mean, we've been doing it our whole life. So we need to be able to, let's say, cope with it.

Speaker 3 But yeah, there's still, there's a lot of, especially the first slap of the race, which it was, that's like the most intense lap of the race. You know, you've got to start.

Speaker 3 You've got all kind of like the energy and the atmosphere of the crowd.

Speaker 2 You got to get through that first turn, right, Sean? Yeah, you got to really pull it tight around.

Speaker 2 Sean, you got to understand, too, like for, and for Daniel, I don't want to speak for you, but so Daniel, he came up with Toro Roso, which is owned by Red Bull, and then became a Red Bull driver for a number of years and had success.

Speaker 2 In fact, won Monaco and a bunch of other races under driving for the Red Bull team. And then he moved and now he races for McLaren.
So he has a history with those guys and with Max Verstapen.

Speaker 2 So there's like, you guys all know each other. You guys have been racing with, for, against each other.
Like, there's a lot of, it's like being in a big, huge, extended family in a way, I bet, right?

Speaker 3 It is. And there's only, I mean, there's 20 of us in the world.
Like, that's, there's 20 F1 drivers per year.

Speaker 2 And that's crazy.

Speaker 3 Maybe a couple seats will get changed each year, you know? So like you are spending a lot of time with kind of the current group.

Speaker 3 And yeah, you get to obviously, yeah, know each other a bit and this and that.

Speaker 3 But I think being like over-aggressive and all of that sort of stuff, like that was actually one of my, let's say, weaknesses or downfalls kind of growing up.

Speaker 3 And when I got to Formula One, I was kind of intimidated just by being there and who I was racing against. And I wasn't aggressive enough.
And I kind of got, I got kind of mauled,

Speaker 3 you know, a few times. And

Speaker 3 it was kind of like, yeah, I can, if I qualify well, that's nothing if I'm just going to get. eaten up on Sunday in the race.
So, you know, I then certainly switched my mentality to it all.

Speaker 3 And again, I think a team will always respect you for having a go, as opposed to, you know, like, this isn't the sport to sit back and be complacent.

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Speaker 1 When I was a kid, I would watch race car driving.

Speaker 2 My brother Mike loves racing.

Speaker 1 Used to, for his birthday, I would buy him like, you know, racing around the tracks and stuff.

Speaker 2 He lives for it.

Speaker 1 Lived for it. He passed away, but hold for laughs.

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 2 wow.

Speaker 1 No, he's great.

Speaker 2 He would have laughed at that. Your dad didn't run him over with the car leaving you.

Speaker 1 He didn't.

Speaker 1 He was a great brother. i love him very much but um

Speaker 2 he loved race car driving

Speaker 1 and but when we were when i was a kid i was like

Speaker 3 i i don't i don't know you well enough to

Speaker 2 it's okay to laugh because otherwise you'll cry oh please laugh yes it would he would love us talking about him he would love us laughing about him he was the best brother ever

Speaker 1 okay so anyway but when i was a kid he would be he would make me watch race car driving i would and i was like as a kid i don't get it they push the gas and they go around what's the skill right right and so and I've heard other people say that of course now that I'm older and I understand it there's tremendous skill about it there's tremendous talent behind it but what do you say to those people who don't quite understand that it's way more than that like especially kids who can't understand it yeah and and even I guess even like grown-ups, like I'm not, I'm not mad about it.

Speaker 3 And because it's, it's simple, like no one can really do it in terms of, like, even me, if I wanted to drive my F1 car today, I couldn't.

Speaker 3 Like, it's, you know, so no one can really relate because it's just racing is such a niche thing.

Speaker 3 And, you know, like, we can run around on a basketball court and understand that that is a physical sport. You know, like we can, we can do it and understand the stresses on your body.

Speaker 2 Sean, that's the one with the hoop and the net. Oh, got it.
Let me write that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I tried to use it like an American sport, I guess.

Speaker 3 Sure. But yeah, but racing, you know, like if they watch us on TV, it's like, well, yeah, I drive my car to work every day, so it's kind of the same, just faster.

Speaker 2 But, um, what kind of car do you drive to work every day?

Speaker 3 Well, now it's a McLaren, which I'm pretty excited about.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's nice. Now, you can't really open that thing up in Monaco, right? I mean, the fastest anybody drives on those streets is when they close it off for that race.

Speaker 2 And even when that racetrack is all set up, it's very hard to pass on that track, really, any track that you guys are on. Because, listener, Formula One is all road courses.

Speaker 2 So you're turning left, you're turning right, you know, whereas like NASCAR is a big circle or an oval. And one might think that a driver would get dizzy because they're just going around a circle.

Speaker 2 And much easier to pass in that situation.

Speaker 2 And Sean, Sean, just so you know, so by the way, I came to know you, Daniel, I think in a way that a lot of other, especially North American viewers, got to know you was on the Netflix show.

Speaker 2 13 Reasons Why? 13 Reasons Why I Drive.

Speaker 2 Drive Drive to survive. Drive to survive.

Speaker 3 Drive to survive.

Speaker 2 Drive to survive. And

Speaker 2 so, and by the way, you're the most personable guy on In Formula One by a long shot.

Speaker 2 And I don't want to get into naming names, but there are some real duds out there.

Speaker 2 There is. There is.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. It must be fucking.
It must be. God, you have to suffer some of these fools.
And there's some really cool guys. You know who I like a lot?

Speaker 2 And tell me if I'm wrong, I like that guy, Toto, who runs Mercedes. He seems like a really cool character, right? He's a cool guy.

Speaker 3 He's cool. He's he's definitely got a presence.
Yeah. But he's, I would say, very, very good at what he does.

Speaker 2 How much, how much socializing is there between teams? Like when you guys get to a destination, are teams, are drivers hanging out and going to dinner and stuff like that?

Speaker 2 Or does everyone kind of stay with their own team for the most part?

Speaker 3 Yeah, not much.

Speaker 3 Like maybe after a race, if we're staying there the Sunday night for whatever, and there might be like a, call it a party or something, like you might end up having having a drink with another driver but it's it's funny it's a very individual sport yeah yet it's not because our team like mclaren has two cars yeah and there's probably 800 people as part of that team itself so it's you and lando norris for instance who's the other driver for mclaren this year do you guys spend a lot of time together no uh away from the track no no and i imagine that's common right most most drivers even if you're on the same team don't really hang out with one another yeah you just end up kind of staying to yourself.

Speaker 3 I say stay to yourself. Like, I do get on with other drivers, but it's you're talking your mechanics and your team, the rest of your team.
That's yeah, yeah, like

Speaker 3 so on a race weekend, yeah.

Speaker 3 If we were to go out for dinner, it's yeah, you kind of take like your mechanics and your, you know, your race engineers to dinner, and then I'll have like my little kind of personal crew, whether it's my trainer and my agent or whatever.

Speaker 2 Oh, nice. You got like, you got like an F1 entourage.
Sure.

Speaker 1 I want to go back to the 800 people.

Speaker 2 There's 800 people per team. Sean, you can't believe the apparatus.

Speaker 1 But why, why so many people? Like, what do they do?

Speaker 3 It's so this like.

Speaker 1 I mean, you don't have to tell me what each one of them is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you need them all to travel to each one of these. Talk to us about how that, like, is there a plane? Is there a 747, like a like air air transport thing where you put all the cars on it?

Speaker 2 The, the, the, the touring bus that you need in the, in the paddock. Like, how do you get everything all over the world?

Speaker 2 I guess, like, within Europe, you guys can drive around in trucks, but if you're going from Hungary and then you've got to go to Australia, how does that happen?

Speaker 3 So, that's all through flight. And I'm pretty sure DHL's been like a partner of F1 for years and years.
So, that's all managed through them.

Speaker 2 Oh, so each team doesn't have their own cargo transport plane. You guys kind of sub that out with these

Speaker 2 bigger cargo carriers?

Speaker 3 I believe so. I should probably know, but yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 But, like, so after a race, the cars will get like stripped down oh put into to big containers oh all right and then away they go um at a race weekend there's a limited amount of personnel per team so i think it's it's roughly maybe 80 that will travel like part of the traveling circus per team but then yeah at the factory there's aerodynamicists there's strategy engineers there's like it's it's wild and then and then because it's a business the only track we have here in the us is in austin right in texas yes yeah yeah and that we're going to miami next year as well are you going to miami oh that'll be fun i can't wait to be there as your guest daniel so that was so nice of you daniel thank you

Speaker 2 i'm gonna be in the pit you need me in the pit i i don't know i've been in the pit during a form a couple of formula one races really um back back in the day it's so nerve-wracking because at least for me i just felt like i there are certain things you can't see as a guest there's like yeah you get inside the garages like there's private stuff in there about the way they set stuff up.

Speaker 2 And so you're afraid you might look at the wrong thing. It's so little

Speaker 2 stuff. Yeah, there's little pictures.

Speaker 2 I was buddies with Jacques Vilna for a half a second. And

Speaker 2 he invited me and my buddy to the race in Germany, the race in Monaco.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 3 you've done a few. No, I've got a lot.

Speaker 2 A couple of, yeah. It's, I actually, the only time I've ever been arrested, I was picked up on the incline in Monaco.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I was knocked out and was was woken up by a cop picking me up off the ground in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 Why were you knocked out? What happened? I had a dream. Did I not tell you the story? No.
Well, I mean, let's tell everybody. Well, it's just us, right?

Speaker 2 So I was overserved in the casino, in the Grand Casino. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Overserved. Yeah, I mean, it's completely irresponsible of them.

Speaker 2 But so I'm gambling.

Speaker 2 Are you sure that you would like another? You've had 30 drinks already. So I'm gambling like I think I'm James Bond and I'm winning all these large like rectangular chips and I'm in a leopard suit.

Speaker 2 You heard me? Are you? I'm in a leopard. Shirt and tie, shirt and tie or t-shirt.
No, there's no tie. It's wide open down to the navel and this leopard suit made by Costume Nationale.

Speaker 2 I mean, it was super douche, douche level was super high for me. I was 20, maybe I think.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, what year was this?

Speaker 2 Because it's relevant. It was like, let's see, if I was 20,

Speaker 2 it was 89. Hello, math.
Or 90, 99, something like that.

Speaker 3 I was born in 89.

Speaker 2 Does that make you feel old?

Speaker 2 It should.

Speaker 2 So anyway, so I'm all banged up and it's four in the morning and I need to ride back to my...

Speaker 2 hotel, which is just outside the city, and I can't find a cab. So I'll walk by this newspaper truck, local newspaper truck.

Speaker 2 There's stuff in the newspaper boxes because it's four in the morning with today's new paper. And I say to these guys in English, because I don't know French, where are you guys headed?

Speaker 2 Can I get a ride ride to my hotel? And of course, they looked at me like one might, you know, with not much of a response. They just kind of ignored me.

Speaker 2 So, of course, that upset me because as I said, I'm banged up.

Speaker 2 And so as I.

Speaker 3 That's not you, though. That's a French thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he's also. No, but still, I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 A drunk American asking some guys filling up a newspaper box for a ride. I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 So they told me to get lost. And as I walked by their truck, I just kind of smacked the side of their panel truck, you know, just out of frustration.
Mon Dieu. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Next thing I know, I'm waking up, but everything's sideways because I realize I'm on my side on the incline. They knocked me out, I guess, because they were pissed off at me.

Speaker 2 And it's a van that rolls up into my vision and the side door opens up. It's like a Wes Anderson movie.
And a cop gets out of the van because it's a cop van. And I go, oh, this is so great.

Speaker 2 You guys are going to be able to take me to my hotel. They pull me in.
They say, you can't be drunk in Monaco. They take me to jail.

Speaker 2 They put me in the drunk tank, which is one of the most beautiful rooms I've ever seen, by the way. There's a you can't be drunk in Monaco sounds like a pet shop boys song.

Speaker 2 There's a beautiful sort of Angora Pashmina sitting there in the drunk tank for me to keep myself warm.

Speaker 2 And I wake up in the morning to the sound of qualifying because the little you know, jail, the little cop station is right there near the pits. And so that way, the engines wake me up and

Speaker 2 I've broken my heel on my shoe. Okay.
So what are you wearing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's sort of like... You should have mentioned you're wearing leopards and

Speaker 2 platform groovy shoes. I mean, I don't know.
So I've got the extra heel or the broken heel in my pocket along with the chips.

Speaker 2 And the cops want to know if I want to file charges because I have a dislocated shoulder.

Speaker 2 Against yourself?

Speaker 2 That's what I realized. For looking that way?

Speaker 2 That's basically, they said, okay, so you're sure you want to file charges because, you know, you're in violation of being, you know, drunk in public or whatever. And I just said, screw it.

Speaker 2 And I kind of got in the cab and got home and nursed my hangover and my dislocated shoulder. But that's the only time I've been arrested in Monaco.

Speaker 1 Daniel, thank you for coming today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Daniel, thanks so much to hear that. Jason's story of debauchery.
It's one of many. So, Daniel, you won Monaco in 2018.

Speaker 3 You know your stuff.

Speaker 2 That's pretty good, right? How

Speaker 2 great was that feeling? Winning Monaco is because it's the most famous

Speaker 3 of the granddaddy, right isn't it it is like the let's say the ultimate ultimate is is the world title that's that's obviously what you want and if if you don't get that or let's say a runner up to a world title is is winning monaco it's like the it's the crown jewel and it's even from i mean the the circuit is so intense and it's so tight and it's so easy to crash there basically um So kind of like putting it together on that weekend and then with the kind of just the aura of Monaco.

Speaker 3 And I like 2018 was special because two years before that, in 2016, I was leading, and we had a slow pit stop. And then

Speaker 3 Lewis passed me during my pit stop, and he ended up winning the race.

Speaker 3 So I was so dark after that because it was, it's not often obviously you get a chance to win Monaco and it was obviously a childhood dream.

Speaker 2 And what does dark look like for you? I mean, is it just you're just hitting the bong every day and watching cartoons? Like it's just, are you a huffer like me? yeah

Speaker 2 or do you climb into the crispy creams like sean

Speaker 3 oh hey they're good um so yeah maybe well for for my levels of dark it was dark but um it was actually funny because that so the 2016 year let's say the dark year sure um on the podium i i was dark to call it and i wasn't smiling and all the things that were kind of said about me after that weekend other than like how unlucky I was was oh my god like Ricardo can, he actually can get mad.

Speaker 3 He can get angry because everyone just knows me for obviously just smiling and obviously loving it and having a good time.

Speaker 3 But it was just funny that I think everyone just thought, like, I don't have the ability to feel hurt or anger.

Speaker 2 And they were like, uh-oh, somebody poked the bear. Here he comes.
And he did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to know something. Like, I don't know anything about you personally.
Did you have somebody to celebrate your win with?

Speaker 1 Are you married? Do you have a girlfriend? Do you have children? Easy, Sean.

Speaker 3 Sorry. So

Speaker 3 don't, I don't, I'm not married, no kids. Um, I had, so I was very, I was very fortunate because 2018, the year I won, I had mom and dad there.

Speaker 3 I had some of like my best mates there who were kind of obviously there to see me, but also like coincidentally doing a bit of a Europe trip at the time.

Speaker 2 So, oh, the Aussies love to get around the world, don't they? Oh, yeah, they love, oh, coming soon to a bar near you, drunk Aussies. I mean,

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 I love them though. I love Aussies.
I love Haiti.

Speaker 2 I love, as a Canadian, I full, I love you.

Speaker 2 Americans love Aussies. I do.
I love Aussie's and I love Australia. I've been a number of times.
I think it's an awesome, awesome place. So you've got all your friends over there.

Speaker 2 You've got mom and dad, but you've got no significant other. No.
Have you ever been in a relationship is what Sean wants to know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I, yeah, I have. And

Speaker 3 I think, like, long story short, it is hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet with the schedule, yeah.

Speaker 3 The schedule, and you kind of need it for the sport, but it kind of teaches you to be selfish. You know, like you, you have to kind of go all in to like your own basket.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And even, like, I'll notice, even like with family or friends, because Formula One is so intense and everything's like so strict on time.

Speaker 3 And if a mate is late for dinner by like 10 minutes, I'm pissed. I'm like, mate, you've wasted 10 minutes of my time.

Speaker 3 So, some things that I've kind of grown with the sport, I do resent in like my personal life, but it's kind of a necessary evil, if you will.

Speaker 2 But you do have self-care in the sense that I noticed

Speaker 2 you live in Monaco, and I guess you spend a lot of time over in the UK because that's where McLaren is based. So you must go back and forth quite a bit to the UK.
Is that right? I'm guessing.

Speaker 3 Yes. And I so

Speaker 3 Dax said you are an Anglophile. What?

Speaker 3 I had to look up what that meant.

Speaker 2 No, you missed her.

Speaker 2 He said asshole. Wait, Dax.

Speaker 2 Dax said that about me.

Speaker 3 He said you're an anglophile, which is that someone who like wants to be British or something like that?

Speaker 2 Something like that.

Speaker 2 But it just has a great deal of sort of reverence for.

Speaker 2 And I'd say guilty is charged.

Speaker 2 And I love that Dak said that because it always makes Dax laugh. Because every time I'll mention, like, oh, yeah, I was with my friend, he'd go, let me guess, your bunny's from London.
You know?

Speaker 2 Oh, Barney's always got because he calls me Barney's.

Speaker 1 Will's Dax impression is pretty good.

Speaker 2 It's so good, right? Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1 Wait, do you know, like in other sports, Daniel, the, the, like in football and stuff, people,

Speaker 1 there is a ceiling of when you reach a certain age. Is that true in your sport as well? Do people age out or are there people of a certain age still doing it?

Speaker 3 Um, I would say it's uncommon to go like beyond 40.

Speaker 2 Um, I wonder why that is because

Speaker 2 reaction time.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah, yep

Speaker 2 i would say it's got to do with maybe some yeah like reflexes and that um and you can't be a fatty either right you gotta you gotta fit in those small cars here we go yeah oh here we go

Speaker 2 talk talk to me about how you manage your water weight and everything um

Speaker 2 what do you do you do you drink a lot of electrolytes or uh

Speaker 2 i

Speaker 2 i so um

Speaker 3 it's very like as soon as we like tell someone how how much we lose during a race just through yeah sweat and obviously fluids it's everyone's like i i need to become an f1 driver i need to lose weight in two hours what are you good for about you by the way you're about to make bateman cry when you tell him how much you lose let me guess you drop between five to ten pounds in water weight per race yeah exactly are you kidding me are you kidding me is that true i would say on average around like two and a half kilos which is what like maybe seven pounds sure wait how do you do that how how do you sweat quickly from sweat dude oh just sweat okay yeah is there any way we could just put jason's face in an F1 car?

Speaker 2 Could we just do that just so it could look? I could take two to three kilos out of my face right now. It'd be great.

Speaker 3 I can only see like

Speaker 3 basically from breasts and bumps.

Speaker 2 It looks okay from here. They shouldn't be breasts.
They should be pectorals.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 let's start there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What I'm going to do here is I'm going to just tilt my camera up. Oh, no.
Oh, no. There's the angel.
Look at the sweet angel.

Speaker 2 Wait, so what I was going to say before was so you spend a lot of time in the UK, but then because you go back and forth and uh and fuck that,

Speaker 2 but then you also spend, you also live in Los Angeles part of the time. You own a house in Los Angeles, quite near all of us, I think.
Not that I've Googled, but I have. Weird.

Speaker 2 And it is. And I think we're practically neighbors, Daniel.
What's in the garage over there? Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That was my next question.

Speaker 2 What's your LA car?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 3 being the bogan Australian that I am,

Speaker 3 I mean, we call them Utes back home, but because we don't really have anything big enough to call a truck. So when I got my place in the States, I was like, first thing I'm buying is a Raptor.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I have a Raptor.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 this is the most disappointing thing you said. First of all, it's so inland empire.
No, it's so Inland Empire of you. First of all, A.

Speaker 2 GMC contract is safe, Will. Let me just say this.
Friends don't let friends drive Fords. You know, GMC.
Oh, Lord. GMC Sierra is a tremendous vehicle.
This is the plum.

Speaker 2 Will's been doing the commercials for GMC for, what is it, Will? 25 years? 22. Coming up on 23 years, I've been the voice of GMC Trucks.
Are they professional grade?

Speaker 2 Well, they are professional grade, Jason. Thank you for asking.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, he's

Speaker 2 a great budget. Daniel, I've seen, it's the first moment I've seen Daniel's face respect you, Will, right there.
It just was like, oh,

Speaker 2 I'm going to drive over to your house in a brand new GMC UConn XL Denali, Daniel, and I am going to make a convert out of you. Wait, so you spend time in Los Angeles.
My point was this.

Speaker 2 That kind of must be for you the real getaway because Formula One is not huge in California. In Australia, I imagine you're a, I know you're a bit of a superstar.

Speaker 2 And Australia loves you and they've embraced you. When you're in Europe, everybody watches Formula One, and so that you're getting not harassed, but like you're Daniel Ricardo F1 champion driver.

Speaker 2 You come to Los Angeles, it's kind of you get to have a little

Speaker 2 and kind of have a life, right? Is that, am I right with that?

Speaker 3 I'm blushing now. But anyways,

Speaker 3 LA, like, you're right. Like there's two, two main reasons.
Like F1 is not very existent there. So you kind of can, it's more for me as well to like mentally get away from the sport and switch off.

Speaker 3 And I'm not, I'm not surrounded by. F1 people or F1 enthusiasts.
So it is like a good escape. And then it also reminds me a lot of home.
You know, it is like a lot of us.

Speaker 3 We've got the weather, we've got the beaches.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's like a bigger, a bigger version of home. So there's, there's like, I won't lie, like, there's a bit more to do there.

Speaker 3 So it's, it's, it's entertaining for me, but I can also just kind of switch off and lay low if I like as well. Sure.

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Speaker 2 What's the workout like? What's the keeping in shape like for Formula One? Is it how,

Speaker 2 you know, I'm kind of the guy, you know, on this podcast, I'm kind of the workout guy. I'm the guy who's known for the workout.
Workout stuff.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's constipated right now.

Speaker 1 You can tell.

Speaker 3 I could see your pictorials and not

Speaker 2 thank you. Oh no, Jason got breasts and I got pictorials.
You sure do. So hurtful.
So wait, so, but, but in all seriousness, what is that?

Speaker 2 What is that like in terms of you have to be in great you've got to be in great shape?

Speaker 2 Jesus. You've got to be in great shape to do that.
We talked about losing all that water weight. I mean, it's demanding physically, isn't it? And being in those cars, just doing one race.

Speaker 3 So there's a few challenges to come with, let's say, like the physical demand of the sport is that it's a lightweight sport.

Speaker 3 So I think in the perfect circumstances, we would be like a lot heavier than what we are in terms of just, I think we'd love to put on more muscle if we could.

Speaker 3 And why we need the muscle is basically for the G-forces. Right.
So like Silverstone, for example, the track in England.

Speaker 3 through some parts of the circuit we're pulling like 5.5 so five and a half g's to the corner like it's it's it's wild So is that because of the speed of the turn or the fact that the turn is so flat that there's no sort of banking that can offset the G's?

Speaker 3 It's mainly the speed of the turn. So there's like, there's several corners where seventh, eighth gear.
So that there's, there's eight gears in an F1 car.

Speaker 3 And yeah, so like one of them or two of them are eighth. And it's, I don't know, like whatever, 190 mile an hour through some of these corners.

Speaker 3 And we're just, so we need like a lot of strength through our neck, our core.

Speaker 3 Don't need a lot of leg leg strength though do you do you ever work your legs so like our right leg not crazy for the accelerator but for the brake i think if anyone drove got to like drive an f1 car they'll probably the biggest thing they'll say is how hard you have to smash the brake pedal oh wow really really to get like performance out of it wow yeah it's it's um it's mainly like yeah i guess glute and and carve like so we do like uh some stuff for that but again we we kind of have to do all endurance based i feel like i could do okay with that because I've got a pro, I've been described as having a pro dumper.

Speaker 2 And so like, I have a lot of glute strength.

Speaker 2 You know, like, I'm tough to get off the puck because I have this pro dumper that I should kind of get. So, so I'm just, yeah.
No, we got it.

Speaker 2 So the, um, you know, what they teach you is to drive with one foot, you know, unless you're driving a stick shift and you got to work the clutch with the left foot.

Speaker 2 You guys don't have a clutch, yet you're still using the left foot for the brake. I think you guys are doing it wrong.
I think it's unsafe. You tell them what to do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but no, just use just the right foot. So you're either on the gas or if you need to come off the gas and get on the brake, you can still use the right foot.

Speaker 2 They probably haven't even thought of that. I don't, it's not going to start that.
You know, it's just safer. It's good, so.
So, yeah. Now, now, do you miss a class?

Speaker 2 No, let him tell you why they don't, Jason. Let him tell you why.
I want to know anything.

Speaker 2 Explain the mistake.

Speaker 3 No, it's okay. So, actually, in a road car, I will do right foot braking.

Speaker 3 And I think because there's also like a lack of urgency on the road, you know, so you're like, you, you've got time to get off the throttle, get on the brake.

Speaker 3 Where in racing, we nearly overlap, you know, like as soon as we come off the throttle, we're smashing the brake. Gotcha.

Speaker 3 And also the steering column runs right down the middle, kind of in between our legs. Yeah.
So to get our right foot across, I don't even know if it's physically possible.

Speaker 2 And then you've got all the buttons on the steering wheel. Those are all the shifting the gears and shit.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So we do have a clutch, but it's on the steering wheel.
So it's like a hand clutch.

Speaker 2 So you're engaging the clutch as you change the gears or no? Don't you just isn't it on demand?

Speaker 3 Just for the start. So just to take off, you use the clutch.
Okay. And then it's all just, we can like flat shift.

Speaker 1 I want to know when you said you go to Los Angeles and you, you, to chill out and everything, do you, um, do you like the breaks in between races?

Speaker 1 Are you just constantly thinking about it, waiting to get back, and you love it so much? Or do you, does your brain need the break from constantly going?

Speaker 3 I think I've always had, like, yes, racing is my passion, but I've always loved just other things as well. Um, like, I don't, I don't live and breathe it.
So, yeah, I do enjoy breaks.

Speaker 3 I do enjoy doing other stuff. What do you like doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, what do you like to do? What do you like?

Speaker 2 Where can Sean take you next time you're in LA? Yeah, that's a great question. So, I do like tattoos? I love

Speaker 3 sports. I'm a big sports fan.
So, like, just seeing live sport makes me happy.

Speaker 2 And live music. Ice hockey.

Speaker 3 I love music.

Speaker 2 Jack, check. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Did you say ice hockey? You like ice hockey?

Speaker 3 You know what? I have not been, but I would love to go to a game.

Speaker 2 Well, done. Consider it done.

Speaker 3 Okay, so you guys, F1, and then I'll be a guest at ice hockey.

Speaker 2 I think he just told us to fuck off, didn't he?

Speaker 2 Wait, what?

Speaker 2 So, so you guys, FO. I'm pretty sure that's what he said.
Can we rewind that real quick?

Speaker 2 F1, F1.

Speaker 2 Okay, so now listen.

Speaker 2 So, so you like watching sports. You like...

Speaker 1 You're a gamer. I assume you're a gamer.

Speaker 2 No. Oh, really? No.

Speaker 2 You'd be good at gaming.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but I'm the kind of cooler generation.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm a bit past that.

Speaker 3 So I'm all you guys on that level.

Speaker 2 Sure. No, no.
Don't misunderstand Will. He's got a headset probably just out of frame, right? Why did you call it?

Speaker 2 Why did you tell him we're just becoming best friends? He and I are my handle. Better friends than him and Dax.
Tell him where to find you. You know, what's your handle?

Speaker 2 is it are you a game or is this is this like i'm a little bit of a gamer it should be noted for a guy who's 51 who has very little gray hair i might add and probably looks at like more like 32 you're looking at me like hey we're the same age or we're not

Speaker 2 i'm surprised i know did you say did you say 31

Speaker 2 Thank you so much, Daniel.

Speaker 2 We've noted that, and that is on the record officially. We just cut our teaser.

Speaker 2 So, you don't

Speaker 2 game, you like to, you like to watch sports, you like to play sports, you like to play basketball, right? I know that you like to sort of keep active in that way.

Speaker 2 Uh, what others, like, are you like a big movie guy? What do you do? You have so many, what do you, how do you feel your day? Do you travel all the time?

Speaker 3 I mean, so I love playing sports, um, but on the movie thing, it reminded me of, so I,

Speaker 3 so some of my like core friends from back home in Perth, like some childhood friends, we, so I I won't see them for like a year. Like, I'll get home for Christmas, and

Speaker 3 they're pretty good. Like, they know not to pest me with racing questions, and they don't really care too much either.
And

Speaker 3 we will like sit around a table and have a few drinks, and for hours, our conversation is just movie dialogue. It's just movie quotes, and it's the most immature conversation.

Speaker 3 But yeah, that reminded me very much of what a lot of people.

Speaker 2 What have you loved lately that's come out? Because I'd start imagining that you guys would be laughing about some comedies that come out.

Speaker 2 I mean, to you, Will, and to Sean, too. Like, what there's there been like a great comedy film that's come out for a while? Game Night.
Yeah, Game Night was.

Speaker 2 By the way, Jason, you remember Game Night.

Speaker 2 That's all I'm fishing for. Thanks.

Speaker 1 I'm actually being totally honest. It's a great.
I'm being totally truthful.

Speaker 1 That is one of the last times I laughed out loud in a movie. I agree.

Speaker 2 Those guys were true with that. Game Night, when it came out a couple of years ago, I've told you it's so good.
And I say this to Jason all the time.

Speaker 2 I want him to do more pure comedies because he is the funniest dude. And it's one of the only nice things I'll say about him today.
But the other thing is,

Speaker 2 have you guys seen, and I told him this when I saw it, and I watched it again last night with my kids, and I shouldn't have. It's a little irresponsible.
I watched Palm Springs with my kids.

Speaker 2 Have you guys seen that Sandberg's movie that he did, Andy Sandberg's movie from last year? Didn't Bennett's brother direct that? And right? And our friend Bennett's brother directed it.

Speaker 2 Max Barbacow directed it. It is a brilliant movie.
It's so funny. Daniel, watch this movie, Palm Springs with Andy Sandberg.
Yeah. It's a phenomenal movie.
I really.

Speaker 3 That'll give me a nice little California fix watching that.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you will love it.

Speaker 3 Speaking of Sandberg, so that reminds me of Hot Rod.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 3 one of the worst lines ever that I'll randomly say at times is,

Speaker 3 boom, there's the flavor.

Speaker 2 Is that a Will or Net line? Will, are you in that? Yeah, this is a Will Ornett line. You say, Boom, there's the flavor.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 All my friends will look at me, and it's so random.

Speaker 2 Give Daniel a quick, quick like that. I don't do this right now.
I don't do this with you. It's three, two, and action.
There's the flavor. Oh, there we go.

Speaker 2 Shelly, you chode. What do you say?

Speaker 3 I gotta kick you in the nuts or something.

Speaker 2 Shelly, I say, what do I say? I think I owe you a nutshot.

Speaker 2 I barely, I did that movie, I did that movie with Samberg and those guys, the Lonely Island guys, and I, I, um, Kiva directed it and Yorma's in it, and

Speaker 2 I went up to shoot in Vancouver and I got a really bad cold on the way up there, and so I was on cold medicine for the few days that I was there. I was, I barely remember being there.

Speaker 2 I was on so much cold medicine. And so I did all of that stuff, like even that when I'm yelling out all that, babe, babe, babe.
I was just doing it to make those guys laugh.

Speaker 2 And also, I guess I was just in some kind of other, I was high, I guess.

Speaker 2 Well, Jesus, well, hang on a second. I mean, what were you on, like, Robotussin or Theraflu? Like, this doesn't get us high.

Speaker 2 No, I was on. You got some sidecar of Matt? Hang on, sir.

Speaker 2 I was on a thing that was called Chrystal Methamphedimine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm going to have to have a little side chat with you after this session.

Speaker 2 Oh, Daniel.

Speaker 2 Daniel, we have taken up way too much of your time. I got to say, I'm just such a fan of how you hold yourself.
I've been watching you go from Red Bull to Renault, and then now you're with McLaren.

Speaker 2 And you've just always, truly always have a smile on your face in the best way. You had a great week.
You had a great race at Silverstone.

Speaker 2 Your fifth place was great. I feel like you're just, you're coming back into your own.
And you just, you're such a great dude and an awesome driver to watch. And it's been such a pleasure to meet you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, such a pleasure to meet you.

Speaker 2 Thank you for coming on. Yeah.
Very, very nice. Thanks.

Speaker 3 I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was good to meet you all as well.

Speaker 2 You too. Wait, wait, last question is.
And so how do you, so you and Dax are friends? I got to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I went on his podcast last year. And so one other thing I love is bikes.
I love motorbikes.

Speaker 2 Oh, he loves motorbikes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So we kind of hit it off through talking bikes.
And then, yeah, when I was, I spent, I actually couldn't get home for Christmas because of the quarantine and all the,

Speaker 3 let's say, the craziness with Australia. So I spent Christmas in LA and we caught up and we went riding and stuff.
So yeah, we

Speaker 3 hit it off like two school kids.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he loves that stuff. He's the best.
He's a friend of all of ours. And he was our first guest that we had on our podcast because we love him so much.
And

Speaker 2 so I get it. Two good guys having fun on

Speaker 2 Motocross that none of us do. So we can't join you on that.

Speaker 2 But anyway, well, what a pleasure, man. Thank you for coming by, and I wish you all the success.
And can't wait to see you in Miami. The three of us are going to be there with you in Miami.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're really looking forward to that. Should we just call you?

Speaker 2 We'll call you once you're down there, or should we call you beforehand? When we land, we'll text you when we go to the next one. You just said the lamb minutes over to the hotel.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I was going to offer to pick you up in the jet on the way.

Speaker 3 It's a detour, but I can do that.

Speaker 2 Sounds great. Even better.

Speaker 2 Even better. Even better.
We love Jets. We love Jets.
All right. Well, you go get your thoughts together.
You've still got time to hit the casino tonight, I'll bet.

Speaker 2 And make sure you arrange transportation before you get in there.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 a pleasure talking to you, my friend.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Daniel.

Speaker 2 Such a pleasure. Best of luck the rest of the season.

Speaker 3 Thank you. It was, yeah, likewise.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I hope you guys are enjoying it as well.
We are. This is all relatively new for you, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is. About a year, yeah.

Speaker 2 And we are loving Formula One. It's amazing and it's so good.
And we're, we're, I'm rooting for you every single week. Thank you.
Keep it going. All right, pal.
We'll see you guys soon.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Thanks, buddy.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Cheers.
Bye. Bye, bye.
Bye. See ya.

Speaker 2 Will, a very classy booking there. Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Really cool. I know nothing about, I really, really, really do want to do, try what he does once.
I really want to do that racetrack thing where you go, right? I'd probably be

Speaker 2 just show up and just say, hey, can I pop in?

Speaker 2 There's a place in Atlanta I can take you to, or even here in L.A. Yeah, we can go up to Willow Springs.

Speaker 1 I really do want to do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you should. It's a really fun thing to do.
Or just do that Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach just a celebrity race. I think they do.
I think I'd love to do that again. We should do that.

Speaker 2 I should all do that together. All jokes aside, you know that Jason's won it three times.
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 I've done it four times, and I think I finished first, second, third, and fourth.

Speaker 1 I think that's. Wow.
I didn't know that you liked to do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then I foolishly accepted an invite from Mitsubishi to race professionally for a couple of races

Speaker 2 in their sport truck series. And I raced.
When was this?

Speaker 2 This was when I was 23 or something like that.

Speaker 2 And I raced,

Speaker 2 my professional career lasted two races.

Speaker 2 I raced, or no, three, maybe. It was Lime Rock, and then maybe it was two, and then Pocono.
And there was a spill in front of me. And this guy was skidding across the track.

Speaker 2 And I T-boned him and my car or truck, it was a sport truck,

Speaker 2 flew up in the air, we were doing about 130, landed on its roof and skidded to a stop. And the impact was so hard that it sent my front left tire up through the wheel well and broke my left ankle.

Speaker 2 And after I slid to a stop, I was like, okay, that'll do it for the professional stuff. I'll let my cheesy celeb ass get out of here and

Speaker 2 let real men work.

Speaker 2 Wait a second.

Speaker 2 I did not know this.

Speaker 2 I thought I knew everything.

Speaker 2 No, there's a whole actual sequential of this crash that National Inquirer got back in the day, which was so great for me because I got to see it because it wasn't televised.

Speaker 2 You know, it was a silly little race. Anyway,

Speaker 2 I didn't even know that you had done this, though. That's what's so crazy.
I mean, I've spent hours when you and Amanda are away going through your stuff, like in your house.

Speaker 2 Well, why don't you have me on the show? You should have me on the show.

Speaker 2 We should have you on the show. It'd be great to finally meet the real you.
It's hard to schedule. It is hard to schedule.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But how great is Daniel Doe? I mean, talk about,

Speaker 2 it does boggle my mind. And I like what you said, Sean, which is like, how do you, what is that feeling that first time going around?

Speaker 1 Because when you, when you get, that's what I want to experience. I want to do that.

Speaker 1 What is that? When you're allowed to speed.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Yep.
When you are, when you are given permission to go over 110, 20, 30, 50, whatever that is.

Speaker 2 I remember Dax flew through Frankfurt and he, because he wanted to go to that famous, what's that famous track that you can go to? Like on Sundays, it's open to the public. The Nürburg Ring.

Speaker 2 Nürburg Ring. So

Speaker 2 Dax goes and he rents a through like Hertz. He rents a horse to pick up at the airport in Frankfurt.
I did the same thing, except I got mine in Monaco and drove it all the way up to

Speaker 2 realized too late. It was $5 a mile.

Speaker 2 Oh, are you serious? Yeah. Wow.
True story. So.
Well, at that time, it was probably five lira. I mean, think about it.
If it was you. That was a long time ago.
It was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 I paid in spices and rugs. So

Speaker 2 Dax language at Frankfurt and he goes to like, you know, Avis or Hertz or whatever. And he goes, so they're like, they give him the keys to the portion.
He goes, how do I get to the Nuremberg ring?

Speaker 2 And they're like,

Speaker 2 I'm very sorry, but you cannot take this car on the Nureberg ring, of course. It goes without saying you cannot do that.
He goes, oh, yeah, no, no, no, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 2 But anyway, how do I get there? And they're like, we are very serious.

Speaker 2 You must not take take these cards on you know on the thing and he goes no i totally won't i totally won't but so just tell me which

Speaker 2 and of course he got in it i think kaybell was with him too and they just drove out there and he popped on that thing in this rented porsche he said it was wild there's a sunny he's open to everybody he said there were like people going in like trucks with like campers on the back and like and then like dudes in in maseratis going 200 miles an hour

Speaker 2 it's really cool that'd be fun right if the three of us went and did that? My God. Yeah.
We'll save it for the European tour. Oh, yes, for the European tour.

Speaker 2 I'll talk about the European tour. We're not talking about the European tour.
Don't talk about the European tour.

Speaker 2 Wait, are we going to do a domestic tour?

Speaker 2 What cities are you guys going to? We're already doing a domestic tour. Yeah, well, maybe we'll take this opportunity to remind our listener.
What's here? What's here? Yes, that's right there.

Speaker 2 Sure, sure.

Speaker 2 What dates are there? Toronto? Are you going to go to Toronto?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Where would you go after Toronto? And what dates are you going to be in Toronto? I'll go to Boston.
Are there any tickets left even? I go to New York. There are a few tickets left.

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Speaker 1 My favorite thing, though, that he said all the entire interview is, bye, there's the flavor.

Speaker 2 Bye, there's the flavor. No, it was boom.
There's a flavor. That doesn't count.
That doesn't count. No.

Speaker 2 Sean, hang on. I got to pause for a second.
Please.

Speaker 2 That was so fucking sloppy. It was sloppy.
It was aggressive. It's

Speaker 2 maybe only the fifth word you've said in an hour. Yeah,

Speaker 2 you're just sitting there fucking cherry-picking, waiting.

Speaker 2 What happened? Did your toaster just go off? Like, all of a sudden, you had to get out of there? What the fuck is going on with you? My Ezekiel Brad just went off.

Speaker 2 Christ, oh, money. How about, how about instead of,

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