"David Cross"

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Speaker 1 So the gum's back in. Wait, this is a do you have a date or something? You can't even tell them got the gum.
It's tucked in my lip. How do you know? You forget.
I'd never forget.

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Speaker 2 Or do they know by now?

Speaker 1 No, we're Smartless, and this is our show, but Jesus, baby. Oh, I didn't know we were recording right now.
I was yelling at you because we were about to record. He just put gum in your mouth.

Speaker 1 We got to get to the show. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Spit your gum out and we'll go.

Speaker 1 Fine. There it is.
Happy? Ew, don't put it behind your ear. What are you doing? I did it.
I put it on the table. This is Smartless.
Smart.

Speaker 1 Smart.

Speaker 1 I just listened to the radio this morning in the car and it posed a really good question and I kind of want to pose this to you guys and I think I know what it is.

Speaker 2 Who listens to the radio still?

Speaker 1 No, is that the question? No, it just came on, but let me say this. Are you human or are you dancer?

Speaker 2 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what does it mean? I don't know. It's a song by the killers, which I like.
I like the Killers a lot as a band.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm both. I think I'm a human dancer.

Speaker 1 Is that a current band or an older band? No, no, that's a current band, Granddad. I mean, you know, they've had hits.
They sound nasty.

Speaker 2 The killers are, yeah, I like the killers.

Speaker 1 They're really good. They're really good.
They don't sound friendly.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know, because of the name, you mean? Wait, are you intimidated by the killers?

Speaker 1 Well, I'd feel safer around, you know, me.

Speaker 2 Unicorn Wings.

Speaker 1 Is there a band called Unicorn Wings?

Speaker 1 Or

Speaker 1 Angel Breath? Angel Hair? Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 That would be

Speaker 1 real rocking, but they do sound like the kind of band I want to start my day with. Maybe

Speaker 2 remember Cherry Pie by Whitesnake?

Speaker 1 Well, it wasn't by Whitesnake. Whitesnake was here I go again on my own.
Cherry Pie was by Warrant. Oh, Jesus.
How about that?

Speaker 2 How do you know? I'm so scared that you know that.

Speaker 1 I know. You know what that reminds me of? That reminds me of that movie I want to see that you're in, Will,

Speaker 1 where you played

Speaker 1 like a death rock guy, like a hairband.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Didn't we have somebody on the podcast that was on that with you?

Speaker 1 We had.

Speaker 1 Was it with Galfinakis?

Speaker 1 Galfanakis was not in it, but the rock band that we, Rayden Wilson was the lead, and he had been in a band that ended up becoming a huge hairband, and the band was me and Freddie Armison

Speaker 1 and Bradley, Cooper. Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, Bradley made the mistake of going day one,

Speaker 1 I want to have all these tattoos. I want my character to have all these tattoos.
We're like, okay. Okay, rookie, we'll see you for the three-hour pre-call and the hair and makeup trailer.

Speaker 1 Day three, hair and makeup trailer, he's where he's there three hours early. It's like, fuck, man, I really, I really messed this one up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got to have Bradley on the show. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 We can't book a star that big.

Speaker 1 We got to dance a little faster first.

Speaker 1 I told him. I told told him.
We're going to have him on after we have Obama on. Yeah.
He's a post-Obama. Post-Obama booking.

Speaker 2 In order of billing. So we do billing.

Speaker 1 Will, this is your guest today? This is my guest. And my guest is kind of like the,

Speaker 1 he's the Bradley Cooper of comedy. Oh, whoa.
I'll say that.

Speaker 1 If we start guessing, why don't you give us some hints? You know, we never try to really guess. Okay, yeah, I don't guess.
Why don't you try to give us a couple of hints? Let's

Speaker 2 get it.

Speaker 1 Now, do we buzz in or do we just blurt?

Speaker 1 Okay, our guest, our guest,

Speaker 1 is a male

Speaker 1 at the Bradley Cooper sound, I'm sure. Comedic actor/slash stand-up.

Speaker 1 He's going to hate all of this, which is going to be great because he's really going to

Speaker 1 battle me on all of it. He's going to come at me hard on this.
He's a stand-up actor. Well, he's going to make me feel foolish for A, our preamble, and B, my description of him.

Speaker 1 And you might, Jason, that might help you guess who it is if he's going to clown me. Somebody who's going to clown you.
I mean, mean, is it Cross?

Speaker 1 Is it a guy who wrote on the Ben Siller show? Is it a guy who started one of the most impactful, certainly in my life, impactful comedies of all time, one of the great shows?

Speaker 1 We had his buddy on the show not too long ago. Bob Odenkirk.
They created a show called Mr. Show.
Well, this is David Cross. I already got it.

Speaker 1 No, it's David.

Speaker 1 There he is. Hey.

Speaker 2 He's holding up some kind of pillow.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. no, now he's making out with a making out with a face pillow.

Speaker 1 God, listener, if you could see this Santa Claus beard on our beautiful friend. No, you actually look like Baba Ramdas.
Thank you. You know who Ramdas is? Mm-hmm.
Yep. Uh-huh.
God rest his soul.

Speaker 3 My legally recognized great godfather.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 In Rhode Island.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 do you have other godparents who aren't legally recognized that you...

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, there's some that are pending, you know, and have been kind kind of in the pipeline for a while.

Speaker 3 I've got about 52

Speaker 3 in Wales.

Speaker 1 Uh, oh, wow, and

Speaker 3 uh, in the animal whales, who've been like

Speaker 3 inside, yeah, sorry, I didn't mean the country.

Speaker 1 Um, oh, sorry, I thought you meant the country. I was googling the country.
No, no, they're inside the bellies of uh large mammals. Yeah, Sean, do you know David? Do you guys know each other?

Speaker 2 Yes, of course. I mean, we've run into each other millions of times.

Speaker 3 yeah we had that we had brunch david is that a crib behind you uh yes it is oh bless you

Speaker 3 uh she can now get out of it though so we're we're in toronto right now she's 17.

Speaker 1 i don't know why you're still trying to keep her all boxed up

Speaker 3 uh you know just call it protective or i'm just looking out for her and uh you know that's a big scary world out there right wait david do you live in toronto where do you no i'm here uh my wife is working on on a show up here and because of COVID we had to move the whole family.

Speaker 1 Right, because you can't go back and forth without a two-week yeah exactly. Yeah.
You're playing

Speaker 1 Mr. Mom?

Speaker 1 Yeah. During all this?

Speaker 3 I have been able to actually pick up even more work than my wife has.

Speaker 1 I'm very, very popular and successful.

Speaker 1 Male breastfeeding doesn't count as an occupation, David.

Speaker 3 Well, it says you, maybe I'm Hollyweird.

Speaker 2 What does your wife do, David?

Speaker 3 My wife is Elizabeth Banks, and she has produced the Pitch Perfect movies

Speaker 3 in a couple other movies.

Speaker 2 Does her husband know that you guys are together?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 My wife is Amber Tamblin,

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 1 she is...

Speaker 3 She does a lot of things, but in the...

Speaker 1 Don't plug the show she's working right now. Don't say the name of it because they don't deserve it.
They don't deserve the plug.

Speaker 3 Really? Have you seen it?

Speaker 1 What have you been hearing? No, I'm just saying, I was just until they pay us, I don't want them to get the free plug.

Speaker 3 But why the last man is what it's called.

Speaker 3 Based on a really great graphic novel.

Speaker 1 Have you ever read that? Have you ever read Why The Last Man? It's really good. Really good.
Sorry, all bits aside, what is the book that it's based on?

Speaker 3 It's a graphic novel. It's the letter Y, like the chromosome.
Why The Last Man.

Speaker 3 It's really good. It came out a long time ago.

Speaker 2 And do you do a lot of junkets for your wife? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I mean, that's after you guys, I jump off here.

Speaker 1 I'm doing Ted Nabean.

Speaker 1 And then I'm doing

Speaker 3 Randy Quaid's

Speaker 1 From the Bunker, it's called.

Speaker 1 From the Bunker. David,

Speaker 1 what side work

Speaker 1 have you truly picked up there in Toronto while she's working?

Speaker 3 I'm on a show called Station 11, which is a sci-fi thing based on a book. I also did a movie called 8-Bit Christmas.

Speaker 3 Oh. And I did an episode of What We Do in the Shadows, which was a blast.

Speaker 1 And you take the baby with you, or does Amber take the baby with her? Who gets the baby on the set?

Speaker 3 We have a widow's walk thing up on the top of the house.

Speaker 1 She's safe up there. Yeah, and you just chain her to something that's just short enough where she doesn't go over the edge.

Speaker 3 Dude, I don't chain her.

Speaker 1 Sorry, rope tied up. And

Speaker 1 it's not like a binding thing.

Speaker 3 She is attached.

Speaker 1 I don't chain her. It's a soft rope.
It's a soft rope. Uh-huh.
David, tell us about one of my favorite shows, was Arrested Development. I just love what you did.

Speaker 2 So the elephant in the room for the listeners is Jason, Will, and David all together were on Arrested Development. If you haven't heard us talk about it, it was a show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, make sure you. Oh, Sean, why don't you describe it? Sean, tell us who our characters were.
Check the wiki page on this description. Sure.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 they were all relatives on the show.

Speaker 1 Relatives, okay, good.

Speaker 1 They were all related. And so,

Speaker 1 it's been a minute. What was the show about? Because it's been a minute for me.
Sure. So it was just about the Bluth family.
That's pretty good. Did I get that right? Question mark?

Speaker 1 That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 Bluth, and

Speaker 2 it was Jason's family and the chaos that

Speaker 2 Jason's character had to manage.

Speaker 1 Everybody was out of control. So Jason had to keep everybody together.
That sounds like you

Speaker 1 being dragged into Rupert Murdoch's office at Five News Court back in 2005 on why it should be kept on the air.

Speaker 1 And that's why it got canceled.

Speaker 1 You're really scared that not only the show is going to get canceled, but you're going to lose your job if you don't do a good job of explaining why the show is on the air. Right.

Speaker 1 When's the last time we did that what was it when was the last time we shot that show how long has it been it feels like a long time right um are you talking about the reshoots because of how up the actual shoot was or is right

Speaker 1 yeah was it 10 years ago jason standon yeah we had a lot of stand-ins there were several oh really oh my god david remember remember being up in like where we're like santa clarita and there's like all of us and we're shooting like in this weird

Speaker 1 all in a line so that we can't see Jason and we're talking to Jason Standin and we keep fucking around with Jason but what about we did that entire final season without Porsche because she wasn't available or something like that.

Speaker 1 And then we ended up doing all of her scenes on like one or two days. She was by herself just against a green screen and they just cut her into everything throughout the season, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just shuffled.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and then immediately people noticed. I mean, within hours of it.

Speaker 1 Seriously, within hours of it on.

Speaker 1 We didn't pull that off. Everyone's all over the internet going, what the fuck's going on with the green screen? People notice.

Speaker 1 David, let me ask you quickly, because I forget how it went down, but I remember when you, when we were doing the pilot, you were going to kind of do it.

Speaker 1 I remember Mitch pitched it to you and you were like, at first a little, is this right? And tell me if I'm wrong. You were kind of hesitant.

Speaker 3 I just, I didn't want to, I had basically just moved to New York after nine years in L.A. and wanting to get out of L.A.
and found

Speaker 3 an opportunity and just literally got a U-Haul, threw my stuff in it,

Speaker 3 got a sublet, and then just moved. And I would deal with all the ramifications later.

Speaker 3 And then I was kind of settled, and I just didn't want to go back to do a show that potentially could run for years and years and years.

Speaker 1 So you signed a one-year deal. He signed a series of one-year deals.
No, but you did, you had like an out.

Speaker 3 You had like an I said, I'd only do it if it was part-time for like six episodes. And then we went to shoot the pilot, and that was the deal.

Speaker 3 And I talked to Joe and Anthony, and I talked to Mitch about the character and da da da and I said okay I'll do I'll do it under these conditions and then during shooting the pilot I called my then girlfriend and I was like this show is amazing this cast is amazing I have to do it I'm so sorry I have to stay and do this

Speaker 1 when it's over was that

Speaker 1 can you send my U-Haul back

Speaker 1 you're fired but David I remember so many memories for me I remember from the pilot. And one of them that really stuck out was we were shooting all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Lucille's Penthouse, which, you know, obviously the set that we all got used to shooting on, was modeled after, and it was just a function of a location.

Speaker 1 It was modeled after this suite at the Ritz-Carlton and Marina Del Rey. Remember we shot down there?

Speaker 3 That's where we shot the pilot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And once we were locked into that look, that just became the look for the rest of the series.
That was the only reason. It was like an available suite to shoot in.

Speaker 1 But I remember we were all shooting, we shot all those scenes upstairs over a few days. And we were staying at that hotel, I think, too, when we were shooting.
It was weird.

Speaker 1 But I remember you having a scene with Jason and we were kind of in the living room. Jason leaves and he walks into the dining room and he says, Tobias, like, how are you doing? Or how's it going?

Speaker 1 And you go, it's good. And then there's just a pause.
It's going to be good. That was to me.
It's going to be good. It's going to be good.

Speaker 1 And that moment to me, I was like, fuck, this show is fucking funny. David is so fucking funny.
This is so fucking, there was something about that moment that stuck out to me.

Speaker 3 And that was, well, that was also when we were kind of able to improvise a little bit more during the pilot and the first, maybe

Speaker 3 half of the first season, you know, some of that stuff would make it in and you were encouraged to do that, which was kind of fun, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I want to go back to that thing you said, which was really interesting. You made a deal where you only did the first six episodes or something.
Is that what you said?

Speaker 3 Just six. Not the first six, but I wanted to, I didn't want to be a full-time.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to move back to L.A.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I was just, all I heard was like, I'm an actor and I, I don't want to be in something successful.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 I don't want to be in something that's very long.

Speaker 1 That's counterintuitive.

Speaker 3 I really, I mean, mentally, I had to get out of L.A. I was really

Speaker 3 and it was good for me. And leaving LA and moving to New York was, I got back in the stand-up and I went in a direction I had wanted to go through.

Speaker 3 And also, I knew I had to get kind of that stuff out of my system, what I spent the first couple of years in New York doing.

Speaker 3 And for my mental health, I wanted to get out of LA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I understand. A lot of actors would be like, oh my God, there's a job.
Where is it? Okay, I'll be there. I'll be there 10 minutes early.
And that you always had that. You've always had that.

Speaker 1 Don't mock me, Will. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Jason, not everything has something to do with you. For Christ's sake.

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 1 So sad. David, you've forgotten, but it's worse than it was before.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say that you've gone against the green, but you've always stood true to like kind of what you want to do. And you've always kind of done it your own way.

Speaker 1 You've, you know, obviously there are things that happen and you have jobs that you have to do. And I'm not going to bring up the chipmunks, but there are

Speaker 1 not the first one, but the one that they forced you to do, like the third one or whatever it was,

Speaker 1 which was one of the funniest. And I want to get into that story of the battle you had with that person, which was so epic.

Speaker 1 But David, when you started, like, I always wondered, like, who are the people that you liked in comedy? Like, who are the people that you looked up to?

Speaker 1 Or when you were younger, you're like, yeah, I want to kind of get, do that shit, because you've always done things to the beat of your own drum.

Speaker 3 I mean, I was,

Speaker 3 you know, as far as like stand-ups, and I think a lot of this is just because of, you know, I was in a rural part of Georgia, suburban, rural area, a very heavily Southern Baptist. And I was a weirdo.

Speaker 3 And I was, you know, I mean, there was the amount of like anti-Semitic shit that people just assumed was okay you know to say to you um and that's changed or is that i mean i i think the the where i grew up now is all atlanta's sprawling

Speaker 1 y'all shoot there you know what it's like i mean it's a big city now it's it's uh it's the san francisco of the south that's they call it yeah okay who calls it that i think i've san francisco calls it that I read that in the San Francisco Chronicle.

Speaker 3 It's just like five times as big as it was when I was growing up. And, you know, I'm old.
This was a long time ago. And

Speaker 3 it was just not a good place. So you really, I, you know, got into

Speaker 3 comedy and kind of, I loved Monty Python. I love, I would stay up, even though

Speaker 3 I couldn't physically stay up. I tried to stay up and watch SNL.

Speaker 3 any of that stuff and and I would watch stand-ups on the tonight show and um and I was way way way way way into Andy Kaufman, and it adversely influenced my early stuff.

Speaker 3 I was just a weirdo on stage, nothing like I am now. I mean, I just, it took me a long time to find my voice and what figure that thing out, but I was, I was like weird for weird's sake, you know,

Speaker 3 but I wasn't in New York, I was at the punchline in Sandy Springs, and people were like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 I drive to Sandy Springs every single morning, yeah.

Speaker 3 And Sandy Springs is closer to the city than where I was. I mean, I was further north in like Roswell, Alpharetta.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. That's gorgeous in Alpharetta.
Horse country. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, now it's, it's like all connected, but believe me, when I, when I was there, it was there. The, the high school hangout was McDonald's.
It was like a McDonald's parking lot. That was it.

Speaker 3 There was nothing. For sure.

Speaker 1 It was one of those places. Yeah.

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Speaker 2 I've been such a fan of yours, David, since Mr. Show with you and Bob.
And forgive me if this did happen, but would you guys ever do that again?

Speaker 2 Have you guys ever talked about just, hey, you know what? We should go back and just do like 10 episodes or something.

Speaker 3 We did, we don't own the names. That's why when we did something on Netflix, we did four episodes.

Speaker 1 You did, okay.

Speaker 3 And it was called With Bob and David.

Speaker 1 Okay. HBO.

Speaker 3 And there's a weird.

Speaker 3 I'm sure you witnessed this or know of it, but you know, HBO and Netflix are like enemies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they hate each other.

Speaker 3 They do not like each other.

Speaker 1 And they won't let people from...

Speaker 1 If you're on, I remember when we were doing arrested and tony hail was on veep at the time remember and hbo was like he can do he can be on a total of 19 minutes and he can't be on the remember he couldn't be on the cover of entertainment weekly yeah oh my god that's true because hbo was like no because he's crazy and it's like man come on

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 3 but they would not let us say mr show hbo so we we so to this day they still own mr show the name yeah i mean what it's the feeling like watch

Speaker 2 We're going to keep this name forever.

Speaker 1 Okay. Like, what?

Speaker 3 No, I don't get that sense. I don't think they care that much.
It's just sort of a blanket policy.

Speaker 1 Like, no, no, no. I guess if it becomes super successful on Netflix, then somebody worries that they'll lose their job.
Like, how did you let them take this? Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Tell me about LA and what it was about LA that felt kind of,

Speaker 1 it wasn't a fit for you, right?

Speaker 3 I mean, I try to to be really fair, and I've never said or even felt the, you know, oh, it's a bunch of, it's bullshit, and everybody's fake.

Speaker 1 I don't feel that way at all.

Speaker 3 In fact, and I've said this numerous times, and I've cited you as a big part of this,

Speaker 3 is the people that are born and raised in LA are some of the coolest, most grounded people I know.

Speaker 3 And it's really the people who come, you know, from other places. From Chicago.

Speaker 1 Like Sean, like sean or people from toronto

Speaker 3 i mean i mean from canada not not other places

Speaker 1 i didn't move to l a until i was 42 so give me a break i lived in new york but by the way i just read this great article about the the idea of like romanticizing um in the new yorker i don't know if you guys have ever heard of it it's a magazine um

Speaker 1 this is well established on the show that neither jason nor sean ever read a book um so but but there was a great article about like the idea of when people wear it as a badge, you know, that they're a New Yorker, that they love New York.

Speaker 1 I'm with you on the same thing of like, and I think I did it at a certain time.

Speaker 1 You and I were unarrested at the same, obviously at the same time, but we would, we were both living based out of New York and we would fly and we would often fly back and forth.

Speaker 1 And there was that temptation to be like, fuck everybody from L.A. and fuck, and I felt the same way that you did.

Speaker 1 I was like, no, I know a lot of really great, smart, interesting, talented people in L.A.

Speaker 1 And that notion, it's kind of like the New Yorkers you meet here in LA, older people who are like, yeah, I was born in a, you know, I'm from New Jersey.

Speaker 1 You want so badly to be identified with New York. It's okay, it's better, okay.

Speaker 2 There's a bigger defensive posture from New Yorkers than there is a defensive posture of people from LA, right?

Speaker 3 New York is the only place

Speaker 3 where people will preface their sentences with like, well, I'm from New York and, you know,

Speaker 3 I'm from LA and we,

Speaker 3 I'm from Chicago, and we, you know, nobody does that except New Yorkers. And, and, uh, you know, they're equally annoying in their own, in their own way.

Speaker 3 And I, this, this, what I don't care for about L.A.

Speaker 3 isn't about the people. It's just it's a, it's a great city for certain personality traits.
And I, the things that are good about L.A. and attractive about L.A., I don't give a shit about the ocean.

Speaker 3 I don't, I don't, the Pacific Ocean does nothing for me. I don't see.

Speaker 1 Wait, you don't want to be able to surf and ski in the same day i thought that was the big seller for you

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 3 you know i like walking i like density i like community i

Speaker 2 so where's the most ideal place you would and you think you would end up living you would choose to live bloomington indiana i'm i'm i've

Speaker 1 yeah you shouldn't live with that i'm a bloomer

Speaker 3 no i i bought a place in new york i i i love new york i've always loved it since i was a kid go would go there i I'm trying not to be like snobby about it, but New York has the things that I appreciate.

Speaker 3 And I bought a Brownstone and

Speaker 3 I've set up basically roots there. I plan to live there

Speaker 3 for the rest of my life. And my daughter is going to go to school.

Speaker 1 Which is 11 days, by the way. It's 11 days.
Did you just hear that? Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got a cross-forecast? Yeah, I feel so dude. Did you just get an email? I'm just shitty being the one.

Speaker 3 Okay, man, I've had a good life. And, you know, I don't, let me pull this gun out for God.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was a bit, it was a bit, it was a bit, it was a bit, it was a bit, it was a bit, it was a bit,

Speaker 1 I look, I feel the same way you do. I, you know, I love New York too, and I ended up selling my

Speaker 1 because all these New Yorkers who are listening are going to be like, you don't fucking get it. Like, fuck off.

Speaker 1 I lived there for almost 25 years and I just sold my apartment, but I have a place on Long Island. I love New York too.
It's a for all the reasons that you said, yeah, it's it's the best. And also

Speaker 3 I get why people don't like it.

Speaker 1 I get it. I understand.

Speaker 3 I understand why some of that stuff is annoying people. They don't want to deal with it.
They'd rather have space. They'd rather have.
I don't like the weather in LA.

Speaker 3 I like the weather, you know, some of the time, but

Speaker 3 I like four seasons.

Speaker 1 I don't like sweating on Christmas.

Speaker 1 It's pretty depressing out here right around Christmas when it's 75. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And David, are you still doing stand-up? Is it something you continue to do on a regular basis? And if not, do you miss it when you're not doing it?

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I have to answer that because of COVID COVID differently than I would.

Speaker 1 Because of what?

Speaker 1 You don't believe that, do you?

Speaker 3 Am I pronouncing that correctly?

Speaker 1 Savai? Comments.

Speaker 1 Savid?

Speaker 1 So what's

Speaker 3 company vids? Company video.

Speaker 1 The guys at company video right now are like, are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 3 And they just founded it in 2019.

Speaker 3 Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 The timing.

Speaker 1 This is the fucking worst.

Speaker 1 Get me Johnson in here right now.

Speaker 1 First aids and now company video.

Speaker 3 I invested heavily in that candy.

Speaker 1 The perfect acronym.

Speaker 1 So stand up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I always do it.

Speaker 3 It's kind of my first love and the thing that I miss more than anything when I don't get to do it.

Speaker 3 And I was actually about a, I have like three steps of getting material ready to go out on the road again.

Speaker 3 And I was through step one, which is, you know, kind of culling all the material before I start honing it and stuff like that. And I've been doing sets around New York and like

Speaker 3 little basements in Brooklyn that seat, you know, 99, you know, a couple hundred people, no more than that. And I was ready to, I was just about getting into phase two when COVID hit.

Speaker 3 And so I haven't done stand-up. I did a couple of outdoor shows that just didn't work.

Speaker 1 Are you going to kind of pick back up where you were at? Oh, fuck yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I have so much stuff.
I'm dying to get out there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 David, I love, you know, the guys know we ask this a lot of people because I'm obsessed with horror stories about like the word

Speaker 1 horror. Stories.
Yeah, horror. Good.
Okay. Horror.
Yeah. I just want to, because when you get clurry, it's a little, it's a different story.
Yeah, Sean, you got to enunciate.

Speaker 1 Open your mouth like this. Red leather, yellow leather.
Red leather, yellow leather.

Speaker 2 Teeth of the tongue.

Speaker 1 Tobias did that once. I loved it.

Speaker 2 So we're getting out horror stories about like stand-up or on a movie set or your favorite horrible like theater story. I love those stories.

Speaker 1 Do you have any like David's got a million of them? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean because I'm because Will talked about, mentioned earlier about the chipmunk thing, and I want to know that story.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, let's do the okay. So you're doing

Speaker 1 Albin.

Speaker 1 You do the first one that's super successful.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the first, the first two were, were fine. I, I mean, nobody expected it to make a billion dollars, but,

Speaker 1 you know, I got paid well.

Speaker 1 And you've also, not only do you get paid well, I've been with you many times where people like go crazy and their kids love it and they come up to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my daughter's like, why doesn't that guy hang out more often? You said you're friends with him. Yeah.
Yeah. So this is Alvin and the Chipmunks, listeners.

Speaker 3 Who are now not kids anymore, but I'll tell you this very, very quick little anecdote about the global popularity of Alvin the Chipmunks.

Speaker 3 I was in Mozambique in a rural beach, like a strip of beach where you had to go through like jungle to get to the beach. And

Speaker 3 it was a part of Mozambique that wasn't populated and was a long way to go to get to where they had very few kind of huts and hut, you know, not hotels, nothing fancy at all.

Speaker 3 And it's along the Indian Ocean, just no one there. And, but no, there's no city, there's no, there's no streets.
This is

Speaker 3 an hour from any kind of town.

Speaker 1 Remote. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I go through, there was this, uh, there was like this bullshitty rave thing at the well, first of all, hang on.

Speaker 1 How dare you? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You have a problem with glow sticks in your teeth? Come on.

Speaker 3 And Mike, do I have a problem with glow sticks in my sand? And

Speaker 3 so I was like, this, this, fuck this place.

Speaker 3 Let's see if there's anything. And I walk like a half a mile down the beach to another outcropping of, you know, hut places.
And I walk in and there's

Speaker 3 a woman in her like late 30s, early 40s. And like, hi, do you speak English? And she looks up and she goes, Alvin and the chipmunks.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh my God, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 You should have steadfastly, you should have argued. You're like, what are you talking about? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Look, lady, I'm not here to talk about my career.

Speaker 1 I'm not working right now. I'm not working.
You want to take a photo real quick?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So it was a huge movie. So it's a huge movie.
You do the first couple.

Speaker 1 The third one, you were working on David and I, Sean, David and I did a show over in the UK that David created called The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret. Todd Margaret.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that. And we did

Speaker 1 two seasons or three. I can't remember.
We did three, but this was happening during the second.

Speaker 1 During the second, and you were in the middle of writing the second one. You had like all these hard dates to write it and then production.

Speaker 3 We were in pre-production. We had already started pre-production.
And,

Speaker 3 you know, obviously you guys know this, this affects, there's a domino effect that would affect, you know, up to 100 people who are, you know, cast and crew and all kinds of people.

Speaker 3 you anyway so yes I was contractually obligated to do to do the third one

Speaker 3 we had been asking for nine months I'd say every seven to ten days am I gonna have to be in it because of the Todd Margaret situation and

Speaker 3 We don't know, we don't think so, maybe, yes, there's a possibility, no, doesn't look like it. Well, it's a strong possibility, you know, just constantly changing.

Speaker 3 And then we got kind of a enough of a go-ahead that it doesn't look like you're going to be in it. Okay,

Speaker 3 so I go to London and,

Speaker 3 you know, start setting up. And me and Mark Chappell, who you know well, and Sean Pai, we start writing.
We've got the production offices. We're in pre-production.
This is right before Christmas.

Speaker 3 And my wife, who was not my wife at the time, was over there.

Speaker 1 We're...

Speaker 3 I remember exactly where we were. We were in Harrods, and my phone rang, and it was my manager, and I answer it.

Speaker 1 I go, hi, David.

Speaker 3 I have, and then lists everybody on my team, right?

Speaker 3 You know, I have him and Jason and then Harris and then,

Speaker 3 and, and I know when you, when your whole team calls, it's one of only two things. It's either really good news or really bad news.

Speaker 1 And I go, okay.

Speaker 3 And I motion Amber. I go, I got to take this outside.
I walk outside. And then the very first thing I hear is, are you sitting down?

Speaker 3 I'm like,

Speaker 3 I just know it's bad.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 You said you think it's easy to get a seat at Herod's on a Saturday?

Speaker 3 And they tell me that not only am I going to be in the third Chipmunks, remember, this is shortly before Christmas. Not only am I going to be in the third chipmunks, I'm featured heavily in it.

Speaker 3 Also, I need to be in Hawaii, where it's shooting, for rehearsals

Speaker 3 on January 3rd, I think it was.

Speaker 3 And I'm freaking out.

Speaker 3 And they're all anticipating me freaking out. And they're telling me how awful they've been and

Speaker 3 how they said I couldn't do it. And they go, well, we'll just sue them for breach of contract and blah, blah, blah.
And

Speaker 3 keep in mind, I was nothing but professional.

Speaker 3 I think I elevated the part in the movies.

Speaker 1 Oh, you bet your ass.

Speaker 3 And, you know, and so I didn't know where this was coming from.

Speaker 1 It was really not cool.

Speaker 3 And, you know, and obviously explained all the things about, i'm in production this is going to affect uh a hundred people this you can't we can't do this i can't even be there i would have to go to new york to get my stuff and then fly to hawaii i have to go home first i don't even have anything i can't 30 hours of flying but the kicker is tell our listener uh what what your what your basic costume is going to be right so this is great so well this is kind of a separate issue but uh so, yeah, I'm in a pelican mascot outfit

Speaker 1 for completely

Speaker 1 unrecognizable. You're inside a mascot.
So, you can't even tell it's him. It's hilarious.
He's in a.

Speaker 3 But, you know, I think you guys are

Speaker 3 conflating two different stories. The other part of this, once we figured it out, and I'm like, we had to put it on hold, and it was just really awful for all the

Speaker 3 production folks and the writers and the cast who had been cast in London

Speaker 3 and the States and for Todd Margaret.

Speaker 1 Chappie took it really hard. Poor Chappie.
Mark Chappell, Chappie took it really hard. He got really charged.

Speaker 1 Well, Chappie, and we should just stop the podcast at one point to say that Mark Chappell, our good friend,

Speaker 1 he's a very sensitive fellow. And

Speaker 1 just our thoughts go out to him today.

Speaker 1 Keep going, Dad.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace, Mark. Wait.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's gone? No, not yet. Not yet.
Not yet, not yet. Mark, do not rest in peace, Mark.

Speaker 3 Not dead. I just mean I want him to rest peacefully.
Oh, when he went.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, that's nice. That's a nice sentiment.
That's sweet. Okay.

Speaker 3 So, yeah. So then we

Speaker 3 work it out. I'm like, you know, there's nothing to rehearse.
And they're like, and they're just making excuses.

Speaker 3 They're being really, really mean and petty and vindictive for what reason I don't know.

Speaker 1 They're just blindly exercising their option. Like, no, we own him, so we want him for the run of the production.
We'll decide what days he works.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yep.
And they, and, and, uh, but they were like, we need to get his sizes. And I'm like, haven't changed.
I, it's the same shoe size. I'm in a mascot outfit, guys.

Speaker 3 I'm in a Helican mascot outfit.

Speaker 3 So sizes don't apply. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 I don't need to rehearse.

Speaker 3 I mean, everything I do is on green screen anyway. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 And so we eventually got him to let me go back to New York to at least dump my stuff off and get new clothes to bring to Hawaii and Vancouver where the film was finished.

Speaker 3 But what you were referring to was two, and this is worse. This is, I don't know if anybody's ever been on a cruise, cruise ship.

Speaker 2 No, I tried to share it with Sean.

Speaker 1 Shauna, that's where you started, right? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's where. Hollywood Days, Hollywood Ways.
Hi, I'm Sean Hayes with Hollywood Hayes Ways.

Speaker 1 Oh, you've seen my show.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Welcome to the Carnivals Raxathon. You haven't been on a cruise, but you have cruised.
Yeah. Sorry, those are

Speaker 2 10 to 12 every night.

Speaker 1 Every night, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And why just 10 to 12?

Speaker 1 That's when they're out. That's when everybody's out.
You got to pack up early, I guess.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I gotta get to make sure that.

Speaker 1 He's very organized. Look at it.
Look at his shelf. He's very organized.
He also works real fast. He does work fast and hard.
By the way, nobody works harder and faster than Sean Hayes.

Speaker 1 Sean will call you go, like, we have five things to discuss. We have to do them, and it has to be done the next 30 seconds.
You're like, hang on a second, man. Anyway, so, David, you get to.

Speaker 1 That is me.

Speaker 3 So there's two weeks where

Speaker 3 they're shooting on a cruise ship carnival the carnival dream i believe uh at that point in time the second largest cruise ship out on the seas and um stop bragging so uh as scripted the pelican outfit is on the entire time for the bits that take place on the cruise ship and it's an actual cruise that you guys are shooting on oh here's yeah this this there are so many digressions here because they did not tell the people on the cruise ship that they were shooting and they would, you know, section off.

Speaker 3 And I had a whole

Speaker 3 like PowerPoint presentation that I would do in my stand-up where I had images and I did it to Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 And that would play while I play the slides and it did it like Ken Burns style. And then you would see the real people, the patrons of the cruise ship, and then you'd see like the hot

Speaker 3 extras that they brought in to be on the cruise ship.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 1 The disparity with clarity. The disparity is quite interesting.
Yeah. And let me guess, it probably wasn't cold on this Hawaii cruise while you're inside this Pelican fluffy mascot outfit, too, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, Ozarks.

Speaker 3 That's where I missed it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. God, this has been bugging me and bugging me.

Speaker 2 Oh, you've seen it? Have you checked it out?

Speaker 1 I've seen the ad. It's very blue.
It's a dark

Speaker 1 very blue. Are you very blue? That's your TV setting.
I get that a lot. Everybody

Speaker 1 has not calibrated their television correctly. It's actually amber.
It's very amber.

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Speaker 1 All right, back to the show.

Speaker 1 David, I want to ask you one last question, if you would.

Speaker 1 You, I feel like you were one of the first people that I know who does what we do, who went kind of oftentimes, people bring shows or formats from Europe, specifically the UK, and bring them to America and generally make them worse, try to remake them or whatever.

Speaker 1 You're one of the first people that I knew who kind of went the other way early on.

Speaker 1 You were, I remember when we were doing Todd Margaret, you called and you were like, hey, I'm working on this thing with these guys, you know, on this pilot at the time, running this pilot.

Speaker 1 We did a, remember, we did a table read one year, and then the next year shot the pilot, and then the next year shot the first season

Speaker 1 with the Russo's. But you kind of had the idea to go over there.

Speaker 1 Like, you identified what, that they were going to give you a green light, that they got your sensibility, or that that was just a whole untapped market. It was unusual.
You kind of did it in reverse.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, I had, I didn't have that much to do with it, though. It was, uh, it was Clelia and Jane who approached me uh they're doing stand-up actually and um

Speaker 3 and they came to one of the shows and said you know do you want to do something for uh we I think it was with channel four

Speaker 1 um yeah

Speaker 3 I was like I was just

Speaker 3 done the show and I we were drinking and I was like yeah whatever you know and they gave me a card okay thanks you seem like nice ladies and I didn't even think about it for like two or three days later and I was like hey wait I should do something that well that lady gave me her TV card.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 so they were the ones who kind of had the idea of doing a co-production and then doing it, you know, with Channel 4. I don't know if they had a deal or not, but

Speaker 3 it was really their idea. And I should say now it's Merman Productions, which is hugely successful.

Speaker 1 Sharon Horgan. Sharon Horgan.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And

Speaker 1 do you feel, can you take credit for Sharon Horgan's career? Do it right now.

Speaker 3 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. She would be nowhere without me.

Speaker 3 She wouldn't have done

Speaker 3 prior to me meeting her.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for the email from her. David, you just reminded me of something when you were talking about drinking.

Speaker 1 I remember us partying just a little bit back in the arrested days.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you mean when you climbed the lamppost? I don't remember. I remember that.
Remember that night? I remember that one. Wait, what? Were you there? Hang on.
No,

Speaker 1 I left earlier because it was getting... We left.
We left somebody's house and it got bad. And then I was like, fuck this, because you guys were getting too drunk.
And then...

Speaker 1 Wait, what are you talking about? Are you being serious about a lamppost? Yeah, remember I had Jason's belt for like a year? Yes.

Speaker 3 And the whole idea was we were going to wait years to give it to you.

Speaker 1 And then we just

Speaker 1 got it. I have no recollection of a lamppost.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 What happened on the lamppost? David, tell them. David, you climbed up a lamppost?

Speaker 3 No, you did.

Speaker 1 You did, dude.

Speaker 1 I swear on my kid's life, I don't remember what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 I don't. I just remember being really

Speaker 1 impressed with my climbing skills. Yeah.
That's what it is. No, I just remember the next day, David going, I said, How did it get worse after I left?

Speaker 1 And David was like, Well, at one point, we were trying to pull Jason down off a lamppost. I was like, Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 It was in front of Laura Stubsker's apartment. We were over at Laura Stubsker's, and

Speaker 3 I don't know what made you climb up the lamppost, but you climbed up. It was like a big one.

Speaker 1 It was like, not, you know,

Speaker 1 sounds good. Was I in danger? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was I doing up there? Was I trying to save me a cat? Mainly Coke. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, I honestly, Jason, I think the tiniest little flake of Coke came up of your hand. The wind took it.
It was up on the pole.

Speaker 1 And you were just, that was it. You were.
That's the last of it. I'll get it.

Speaker 1 But my question is:

Speaker 1 my life has changed significantly since I have procreated and gotten married.

Speaker 1 My question is to you, has your life changed significantly since your sweet, sweet baby little girl and big, big baby girl?

Speaker 3 Yeah, very much so.

Speaker 3 I only do Coke once a week now.

Speaker 1 Good for you.

Speaker 1 Good for you, David. Moderation.

Speaker 3 Good. I just, I don't do anything anymore.

Speaker 3 I mean, I still drink, but not excessively.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I don't want to. I don't have the desire,

Speaker 1 You want to get up early and you want to be with your family.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, that was part of it. It was like being kind of hungover.
And,

Speaker 3 you know, I think it was Amber's turn to be with her in the morning. And

Speaker 3 just, but, you know, you get up late. I'm like, what am I doing? This is crazy.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. I remember one time, like, years ago, I hurt my knee.
We were in New York and I hurt my knee doing something. And I called David and I said,

Speaker 1 I don't know what to do. My knee hurts.
And you go, oh, I got a couple of things that you could, that could probably help. And I go, really? And he goes, yeah.
So I was in the West Village.

Speaker 1 And so like, I went over to his apartment in the East Village. And he just, like, in his hand, this is like 2004.
Like in his hand, he's just got a bunch of loose stuff.

Speaker 1 He's like, I think this might be something.

Speaker 1 I think this might be something. I was pretty bad.

Speaker 3 I do not, it's nothing I'm proud of, and I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 Hey, I took it. I took it.
So what do I do? And the knee felt great.

Speaker 2 David, what's the worst that happened to you when you were under the influence of something?

Speaker 1 Were you ever arrested for being drunk or anything?

Speaker 3 I had a DUI that was knocked down to

Speaker 3 whatever a DUI is.

Speaker 1 Knocked down to a hard partying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was just hard partying.

Speaker 3 I spent the night in jail in L.A., lockup with like 100 other.

Speaker 1 That was brutal. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Wait, what was that like? Spending the night with a hundred, I would not do well with you. It was

Speaker 1 fucking awful.

Speaker 3 Let me tell you that initially I

Speaker 3 was smiling I thought this is kind of you know I was in the the little the area they put you in with like you know it's smaller and there's like four or five other guys right and while they're processing everything you can see all the cops and they're I don't know if you've ever been down there it's a big big big room

Speaker 3 looks it's you know looks like the DMV and then there's a little you know cells they put you in and there were a couple other guys in there and oh also I was on a date I was on a first date so I had like a nice sweater sweater you know i'll get a nice sweater off

Speaker 1 a sweater set i had some product in my beard you know

Speaker 1 and uh uh

Speaker 3 and i and i was i really stupidly naively was like this is fun this will be a good story that uh i'll get out of here there's you know i've i'm not drunk this is fine whatever and i'm in there for maybe

Speaker 3 Maybe 45 minutes and the guy, you know, is like double glass things into another room. And this guy comes up.
I'm like looking out.

Speaker 3 This guy walks up and just spits on, you know, on his side of the glass at me. And I'm like, oh, geez, that's not very nice.

Speaker 3 And then, and then

Speaker 3 maybe,

Speaker 3 and I'm like talking to these guys too, like, what are you in for? You know, whatever. And then I think I'm completely under the illusion that I'm going to be let out any minute now.
And

Speaker 3 they kind of announce my name, they open the door.

Speaker 1 I go, yeah, okay, see you. See you, guys.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 they lead me down, not not towards the desk, but lead me down this hallway.

Speaker 3 And the fluorescent lights and the, you know, puke green thing. And I'm like, huh? What? And they're like, pick a mattress, pick a pillow.

Speaker 3 There's literally these like sheets that there are rubbery things that are as thin as my pinky and

Speaker 3 just kind of a hard pillow thing. I'm like, wait, what do you, what is, what's going on? And they take me down

Speaker 3 about a, you know, another eight things turn left here, to walk on this side. Don't go on that side.
Stay on this side. Walk down here.

Speaker 3 And then they open up this cell with probably, I'm going to guess like 60 other guys, a toilet, you know, just a toilet right there and against the wall. And I

Speaker 1 you immediately went and took a dump. That would be a strong move.
If you walked in and did feel like that,

Speaker 1 I started to do a set. Like, I went over and I was like, yo, yo.

Speaker 1 Wait, David.

Speaker 1 By the way, by the way, David, you did a night in in prison, which is bad.

Speaker 1 But Jason, tell him one time at the Golden Globes, he had to sit in the upper level. Oh,

Speaker 1 he wasn't even...

Speaker 1 He was in the second, you remember? At what point did they take your cardigan from you?

Speaker 3 You know what? They let me keep it.

Speaker 3 They thought I looked cute in it.

Speaker 1 A lot of winks. Got a lot of winks.

Speaker 1 A lot of heavy winks.

Speaker 1 I love the strong move to go take a dump real quick, given a hard time. Immediately.

Speaker 1 And never break eye contact with everybody

Speaker 1 guys you don't you don't you don't want to be over here that guy is psycho that guy's a fucking psycho wow so how long ago was that david like don't and don't say a year ago no no i was living in la that would have been like 95 or something like that oh so like like mr show time

Speaker 3 it was like maybe mr show we've done one seat you know did four episodes something like that mate was way way way early did you get any sleep that night in the in the lock no no but they also do this thing where they blasted ACDC and they kept the lights on.

Speaker 3 And then I don't know what time I got out. It was early.

Speaker 3 It was probably like 9.30 in the morning, but I did the classic thing, not intentionally, I got out and, you know, the light with the LA sun was so harsh and I'd been inside.

Speaker 3 I did that, the classic like, you know, with the sun streaming through your fingers.

Speaker 1 I can't see. I can't.

Speaker 1 hail the taxi did somebody was somebody there to pick you up or did you get in a cab no i think i pulled wait i think i had to pull my car over so my car was where

Speaker 3 in fact do you know i don't know if this will ring a bell downtown there was like a fountain with really uh uh brightly colored flashing then i i got the dui because i did a ue there was nobody on the road i just was with a girl like oh let's check that out let's go over to that fountain and just kind of did a u-turn and

Speaker 1 Did you ever have another date with that girl? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Shocker.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She didn't even pick you up the next morning?

Speaker 3 No, it wasn't.

Speaker 3 We just weren't meant to be dating. Clearly, it was not about the.

Speaker 1 You never sent you a real clear message on that one. Sean, when was the last time you were incarcerated? Yeah.
Don't lie. What time is it?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Have you ever been locked up? Wait, wait, I didn't know you could do sound effects. Sean, have you been locked up?

Speaker 2 I was. In college, I stole a turkey sandwich from a 7-Eleven.
Bless your hand. And I had no money, and I stole it.
And outside, I was throwing the tomatoes at cars before I eat it.

Speaker 2 I was completely intoxicated.

Speaker 1 He was just delirious with hunger. Yeah.
By the way, 7-Eleven Japanese company.

Speaker 1 I was looking at it up on Wikipedia this morning.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. Yeah.
Yeah, they got a story in the New York Times. Yeah, did you read that story in the New York Times? Yeah, we're not changing the subject, though, Will, here.

Speaker 1 When was the last time you were incarcerated? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who, me?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you.

Speaker 1 Never? Never. Never once.
Soft. You're so soft.
Yeah. Too smart.
Yeah. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 When is that?

Speaker 1 Talk my way out of anything.

Speaker 1 And we've talked our way out of David. David, we've taken up way too much of your time.
Dude, thank you for doing this.

Speaker 1 If anything,

Speaker 1 if nothing else, just remind me how much I miss hanging out with you. Yeah, come on.

Speaker 3 I miss you guys too. I really do.

Speaker 3 Sean, not so much, but you guys for sure.

Speaker 2 Not an interesting audience.

Speaker 3 And it's very good to see you. Very good to hear your voices.

Speaker 1 You too, man.

Speaker 2 Thank you for being here, David.

Speaker 1 Love you, David Cross. Love you, David.
You're the best.

Speaker 3 This is a blast. Very good to see you.
Sean, Jason.

Speaker 1 Will. Will.
Will.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 So I just leave, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just leave, and that's it. It's just over.
Okay, man. Thank you, guys.
Thanks, David. Bye, Pal.

Speaker 3 Don't be strangers.

Speaker 1 We will. See you guys.
Bye, buddy.

Speaker 1 He's

Speaker 1 the best. I mean, it really was just a perfect blend of people

Speaker 1 on that set and that cast. He's got such a unique

Speaker 1 space there. Yeah.
And, God, I really, really miss listening to him talking about it. Same here.
I always found like he really, he's one of those,

Speaker 1 you know, when you play, like if you play somebody in a tennis or you play whatever with somebody who's better than you, it ups your game. And I always felt that way with David.

Speaker 1 Like I felt like he just

Speaker 1 always upped the game in every scene. He's so committed.
And sometimes he would come in and be so committed as Tobias.

Speaker 2 His delivery is so fucking funny and dry.

Speaker 1 So fucking good.

Speaker 1 He's so clearly not concerned with and I don't, he doesn't mean this, I don't think, in an obstinate way, but like he, I think he genuinely doesn't care what people think in the best sense of the, of, of the, you know, he's, um, he's really brave and unique with his as you said with his comedic deliveries with the way in which he conducts a conversation with the people he chooses to hang out with he's uh he's completely self-sufficient and i i did admire that a lot when we were working together i was just reminded by it and i think that also he's got that thing where he is you know his His comedy is so funny, it can be kind of acerbic and it can be sometimes almost feel controversial.

Speaker 1 But he is, as Jason will tell you, he's very sweet. He's such a sweet guy.

Speaker 1 And the more you get to know him, there's more to love about him. And what's crazy about the Mr.
Show thing, I was thinking

Speaker 1 that they don't own Mr. Show with Bob and David.

Speaker 1 They should just change it to Mr. Show.

Speaker 1 Bye.

Speaker 1 Bob and David.

Speaker 1 That was horrendous. Smart.

Speaker 1 Smart.

Speaker 1 Less.

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