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All right, so we're here.

Are we

cold open?

Did you say bowl open?

Yeah, I said bowl open.

Oh, you're trying to do like a shameless post of a thing about the Hollywood Bowl that we're going to be at the Hollywood Bowl on November 15th, yeah.

On November 15th.

Oh, you think that I'm going to sit here and do a cold open that's just a shameless plug of Smartlist Live at the Hollywood Bowl on November 15th?

Sean, get a grip.

I'm not going to do it.

Tickets are on sale now.

You want me to say that?

You want me to say smartlist.com slash live you want me to say that well no i didn't want to i wasn't saying you should say no i'm just saying it's gross maybe it's gross

because then i'm sitting here and i'm going smartlist live at the hollywood bowl november 15th you know tickets on sale now at smartlist.com slash live gross dude

gross let's just get so sorry i'm so sorry okay just don't insult me again smartlist live november 15th let's go to the show also welcome to smartlist yeah obviously that smart

Smart

less.

Oh,

Willie, where are you?

New York City?

It's my new place in New York, yeah.

Do you love it?

What do you mean, you got a place?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, that's amazing.

Yeah.

Where are you?

Are you doing press, Willie, for your movie?

No, no, no.

I'm just,

not yet.

I'm about to, but I'm just getting sort of sorted here in my place.

Sure, you might be seeing a friend.

Oh, look at that.

Look at these guys.

He's got a $1 bill.

He's kind of gambling issue.

He likes to be as close to Atlantic City as possible

without going.

Uh-huh.

Wait, how are you?

How is everybody doing?

We haven't seen each other in like two weeks.

I know.

I don't like it.

I saw JB last week a couple times.

We played golf and then we went

to an event.

We did a little charity work together.

Oh, yeah.

Will did some

MCing of a very special charity event, the Yes Charity.

Yes.

What is that about?

So our friend Eric Eisner's charity, the Young Eisner Scholars, it's a really great, actually look it up.

It's a very worthy cause and they identify

kids from underserved communities who are really smart and helps might not otherwise have access to funds for higher education or for secondary education.

However, you can.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

That is nice.

I was part of the tag group when I was a kid.

It stood for talented and gifted.

And I couldn't do math, couldn't do anything.

Don't know what to do.

I'd love to just kind of just send it out to the group there, just freestyle on that acronym there.

I know.

Will?

Want to try a shot at that acronym?

I mean,

I do.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

No, let's not.

Talented and gay.

Is that what it is?

No.

No.

Oh, you think I'm going to say tight-ass gays?

Doesn't take cheap shots.

I'm going to take a cheap shot, dude.

Oh, my God.

I'm just walking into your bullshit.

Oh, did Will just get a coffee from someone special?

I might have.

Is it the chef that just brought you some?

Today she is.

Today she is.

Wait, everybody is so excited about your new love, Willie.

I got to tell you one thing really quick.

Yesterday, we visited Sean Levy, our friend Sean Levy, on the same same Star Wars show.

Oh, my God.

Did you guys even get to sleep last night?

No, it was incredible.

Are you going to be able to do the show with a boner?

You're in hour 19 of that boner.

Your lightsaber.

Who needs Viagra?

The people from Viagra called and they're like, hey, can we take your blood?

Because we need to know what.

Let me see that picture.

Let me see that photo again.

Well, you can't.

You can see that.

So listeners, this is right.

This is

the new droid in the new film.

Wow.

How do they let you get a picture of that?

Well, we went to go to the creature shop and you promised that you wouldn't show it to Scotty.

Right, listen to this.

It's a trap for me.

It's a trap.

Remember, it's a trap.

Scotty, look at Scotty's making our Admiral Akbar move.

Isn't that wild?

No, that's weird that he's remembering

a line of dialogue from, oh, my God, he's making the move.

Return of the Jedi.

Yeah, look at that.

Oh, my God.

You guys, it must have been like the best day ever.

It was incredible.

And Sean Levy, of course, is the greatest.

The nicest show.

Jason, you would do so so well at directing one of those movies.

I don't know why.

Like one of those, let him know.

Let him know.

All right.

Thanks, mom.

My mom once said, you know what?

You should call Steven Spielberg and let him know you'd like to work with them.

I was like,

what a great idea.

I know.

I love stuff like that.

How come you don't work with better?

I remember

somebody who we know who, but years ago, and she said that another person we know who is very famous said to her, like, you know, you should work with the greats and the Scorsese.

And then she was like, oh, okay.

Or just give me their number.

Sign up like the.

Why didn't I think of that?

Yeah, you're right.

Listen, speaking of one of the greats, guys.

I love greats.

My guest today had quite the historic beginning.

I just wrote this last night.

When she was born, Martin Luther King Jr.

and his wife Coretta paid the hospital bill.

What?

I didn't know this until I looked it up.

She grew up in Georgia playing the clarinet in the school band, which I loved learning about.

After graduation, she moved to New York, sold running shoes.

Guess what?

Chased an acting dream.

On a film set 30 years ago, she picked up knitting, hasn't put the needles down since.

Her kids once asked her if she was more famous than Taylor Swift.

These days, she's happiest at her ranch in New Mexico.

You could call her an Oscar winner, you could call her America's sweetheart, you call her my sweetheart.

But today, I'll just call her the brilliant and always

Julia Roberts.

Yeah, I got it.

Oh my gosh.

Julia Roberts.

Hello, Julia.

Ooh, the bright yellow.

That's so cute.

She's wearing a firefighter uniform, folks.

It's Boy Scouts.

Oh, Boy Scouts.

It's Boy Scouts.

Oh, it is Boy Scouts.

I did a little Boy Scouts.

Roberts.

Hi.

How cool that you're doing this.

Thank you, Sean, for that.

For that

intro.

All my research.

This is sort of like a haiku about one's grandmother or something.

The clarinet and the knitting.

Wait, I didn't know you played the clarinet and the oboe.

Those are two of the hardest.

Those are the two hardest instruments.

Wait a second.

You don't want to get into Martin Luther King paid for those.

I was going to get there too.

So let's start with that.

Martin Luther King paid the bill why.

They were friends with your parents.

Yes.

And my, and I, and I,

not knowing the state of my family's financial situation as a brand newborn baby, I guess they were maybe just going to have to smuggle me out in the middle of the night.

And so this made it we could go go out the front door.

I'm going to sound dumber than usual.

Boy, this is going to be a stretch.

Okay, good.

What is the bill for having a baby?

Isn't that usually in 1975?

Right.

Like, but is it?

Thanks for my new favorite, Will Arnett.

Yeah, he's slick.

Yeah, you've got kids, you know.

This is not, these are not cheap endeavors.

He's so out of touch.

He has SAGS, but by Screen Actors Guild insurance.

Wait, but isn't it all paid by the mystery elves that are insurance?

Isn't that

the same people that do the laundry, right?

Julia Williams,

Jason, I love you so much for this.

But you know what's amazing is I am such a Jason Bateman fan, and this up close exchange now, though we've

seen each other in person.

We've never really, I'm like, really, just like staring at you right now.

And you can't even tell.

I could spend years with you.

You're the greatest.

Do you know the first Bateman I ever truly loved is your mom?

Oh, my mom.

Your mom.

When I met your mom.

On a plane?

She is just

like, she's just such a, you just, she just has sparks that kind of shoot off.

She's so beautiful and so sweet and the accent and the whole thing.

And just British accent.

She nails it.

Yeah.

Now, was she, because she was a flight attendant for Pan Am.

Did you meet her?

Pan Am.

I mean, that just adds to the allure.

With the bowler hat and everything.

Yeah.

Or was it on set of

it was, yeah, it was on satisfaction.

Yeah.

Wait, why was your mom on the set of satisfaction?

Because I guess Justine wasn't yet 18, maybe, or was she, or was my mom just there visiting maybe?

So Julia was in a movie with my sister Justine way back.

It was before we were on location.

We were in Los Angeles for a long time because I came out to California and I was probably there for like

at least three weeks before we went on location because we had all that band practice, you see.

So cringy.

If only I could have played the clarinet in that movie.

Will does a great

horn player.

Eric Clarinet.

Eric Clarinet, just making sure the reed is nice and wet.

And wet.

I just like it.

I only do it out.

It's a theme song of Law and Order.

Oh, right.

And I wet the reed as I'm waiting to flip the page.

Scotty does that too all the time.

You ever let the spit out at the bottom?

So dumb.

Yeah, careful.

Spit valves.

All right.

So,

wait, where were we?

So we were Martin Luther King

paid the bill.

Yeah, that's just incredible.

Isn't that wild?

And incredible, yeah.

Right.

And I mean,

how did they know each other, Julia?

My parents had a theater school and

the King kids went to that school.

Oh, wow.

And then so then my parents became friends with them.

And that's amazing.

So the King kids wanted to be actors.

I mean,

I think one of them, and again, this is, I'm reaching back into my first days of life, but as I recall,

I think one of them did have maybe some acting aspirations, but it was more than anything.

I think it was just sort of,

you know, hobbyist after-school weekend kind of thing to do

with your kids.

And

wait, so your parents ran a theater school or like a theater thing.

Sean, imagine the stories they the theater stories.

I can't even.

Sean is going crazy now.

Oh, he loves a good theater story.

Sean loves a theater story.

Well, Julia, you've done a lot of great

broadly.

Do you have any, like anybody ever of a heart attack in the crowd?

Let's just get right to it.

Yeah, let's go.

He usually saves these winners for the end.

No.

Well, I have an opening night story that is pretty good, but it might be long.

Maybe it's better.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we've got 45 minutes left.

Never too long.

Yeah.

Well, so I did a play with Bradley Cooper and Paul Rudd.

I saw this one.

This one with the rain.

The rain.

Yes.

What a cost.

Yes.

I was there.

What a cost.

Ah, pravista.

It rained inside the theater, which was

great for everyone but the people in the front row,

which we discovered they were all kind of being pelted.

But

three days of rain was good.

Every day someone would go like, oh my God, I'm wet.

And it's like, well, yeah, that's the.

Congrats.

You got front rows.

Well, I don't think you go to the theater thinking that the rain in the show is going to get on you.

I wouldn't think that.

No, right.

But, you know, we had rehearsed this play.

As you guys know,

it goes on and on and on forever.

And then it just, all you want to do is just start the thing.

The opening night comes and

nerves are high, just even thinking about it.

I'm getting a little short of breath.

And

intro beta blocker.

Yeah.

So the play starts.

Paul's on stage by himself, and

it's his apartment set, and there's just this sort of like bare mattress, you know, apartment in New York.

And he's reading this, he's thumbing through this book, and then there's a knock at the door.

Open the door, and it's his sister.

played by yours truly, clarinet player.

And

I come in, and he's, what's in his hand is our father's diary that he's just found.

And he's been reading it and he's crazed and he's manic over what he's discovered and he's talking about it and he's talking about it.

And he tosses it on the bed as he has done 9,458 times in rehearsal.

Right.

And this book skitters across the mattress, hits the front of the stage and into the aisle.

No way.

No way.

Which is fine for the next four and a half minutes until I say,

but

you gotta open it.

Look at this.

Right, right, right, right.

Or Paul says, Paul says it.

He picks it up.

And so we keep going, but we're looking at each other like, this has never happened before.

What happens when this happens?

Because this has never happened before.

Meanwhile, someone working on the show who has seen this happen sort of

commando crawls down the aisle and says to the man in the front row, sir, you know, pick that up and just put it on the stage.

And the man's like, what?

Huh?

What?

Paul and I are acting our little hearts out.

Just pick it up.

Put it up.

Look how excited Sean is.

This is one of the greatest.

So the man picks it up and he kind of like doesn't quite know.

I mean, I wouldn't want to touch a prop or, you know, and he puts it on the stage at the exact, you couldn't have planned it better at the exact moment that Paul goes, no, I'll read it to you.

And he picks it up.

Ah, that's great.

At the second, and then Paul, being the amazing human being that he is,

just turns and looks at the man.

He goes, Thank you.

And everybody in the audience, you could just feel everybody just let out their breath that we didn't realize we were holding.

And we sort of went on for their own.

This is the magic of theater, you know?

Yeah.

I want to get back to the beginning, Julia, because I did all this research.

And it was, you know, you think you know somebody and then you actually do read about them.

You're like, oh, I didn't know anybody.

And then you realize, wow, nothing that I've read is actually factual.

We believe it.

So wait, so when you were a kid, you wanted to, so you played the clarinet, we covered that.

You were a vet, you sold shoes.

I really haven't covered that.

I'm gonna double back.

I was a doctor.

Did you hear?

He goes, You were a vet and you sold shoes.

No, you wanted to be a veterinarian of pets.

I didn't know that.

That's okay.

Well, wait, how old were you before the vet thing went away?

Because doesn't every kid want to be a vet?

Everybody does.

I was in the 4-H club.

I mean, like, I thought this was great.

And it wasn't until I discovered

that I don't really have a mind for science.

Right, right, right.

I just wanted to do the petting and the, you know, I could take out a toothbrush and put some mange medicine on if necessary, but I didn't want to do

surgeries.

What was the most involved thing you've ever done with an animal?

Like, have you milked a cow?

Have you changed horseshoe?

I haven't milked a cow.

I have not changed.

I've watched the farrier do it, but I've not done it myself.

What's that called?

A farrier?

A farrier.

See, I would lose that on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

I wouldn't know what that means.

You could call me.

I could call you.

You would know.

Oh, my God.

She'd be your security caller.

I like to call Trump Robert.

Yeah, exactly.

That'd be so good.

Well, how, well, then when did the acting, when you say, yeah, no, screw veterinarian, I want to be an actor.

I mean, I don't know that I had

that kind of moment where I thought

this is the path I want my life to take.

I mean, my parents were artists.

I have an older brother and sister.

They were their artists.

My sister was going to the neighborhood playhouse when I moved to New York

and moved in with her.

And that's when I was working at the Athlete's Foot on 72nd and Broadway, right by the Raised Popeye and Popeyes.

That's great.

And I worked there for a while.

And I think it was just realizing that college was not going to be in the cards for me.

And

I didn't really know what, I didn't know what I was going to do.

I mean, I had moved to New York really just because I wanted to be back with my sister because she had been gone for two years and we were so close and I missed her.

And I.

Gone from Georgia?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you were like,

you were thinking, what, that you were just going to go to New York and something was going to happen, something different was going to happen.

I don't want to embarrass you, but was modeling a poll at all?

I did get called in to a couple of agencies, and there was an agency called Click Models.

God, I completely forgot about this.

You have jogged a piece of the puzzle out of my mind.

Let's get into it.

And

I did go meet a really nice woman there.

Flick and click.

Wasn't it flick and click?

I don't think so.

That was so.

No, that doesn't sound good at all.

I think that's something else.

No, no, no.

I think it was.

I actually think it was.

No, it was click modeling, click like a camera click.

There's no flicking.

Click and flick.

So it was something.

I swear to God.

Anyway.

I think that's a massage.

Okay.

So

wait.

So, Julia, but really to answer the question, you weren't like, okay, I'm leaving Georgia now.

I'm going to be an actor.

So I'm moving to New York.

You were going because your sister was there and you've just.

But Eric had already been working, though.

He's 11 years older than I am.

So

he had a career.

Yeah.

By the time I graduated from high school.

But to answer your question, everybody was sort of leaving home to go to school.

Yeah.

And I did not want to be

like, okay, I'll see you guys when you get back.

Right, right.

Right here in my mom's apartment.

Nobody worry.

What about college?

You said college wasn't a thing for you.

Why was that?

Because it wasn't for me.

It wasn't financially feasible, and I certainly didn't have the grades for any kind of a scholarship.

Should have called the King family.

I've relied on them once already.

I just felt felt like they they i didn't want them to have to support me the whole way around yeah yeah and were were you to study something in college at that age had the the the vet the veterinary thing had gone had passed

right i think i probably would at that time because you have to remember this is

1985 i graduated from high school

and I probably would have wanted to be a home economics teacher.

Oh, wow.

Something I'm happy to bring back into the school system now, if asked.

What's a home, what does that mean, home economics?

What does that mean?

Professionalism.

So many things.

I'm glad you asked.

Yeah.

Like, oh, here we go.

Here we go.

Well, I'm an idiot.

I don't know what that is.

No, it was such a great class because it covered, it was like, yeah, sewing, but it was like sewing, mending, it was practical things.

You learn how to write a check.

You learn how to sew on a button.

You learn how to iron a shirt.

You learn how to do it.

Is that where you learn knitting?

No, that I learned.

I learned how to knit from the standby painter on the Pelican Brief.

Eric Bart taught me how to knit.

Wow.

The standby painter.

Yeah.

They got a lot of kit stuff right there.

Right at your disposal.

Oh, yeah.

They got that

bucket they sit on.

It's got a bunch of stuff in there.

Yeah.

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Hey,

I feel like I'm not a great parent for many reasons.

One of them is that I haven't taught my kids how to iron, how to wash a window without getting streaks on it.

Like my parents, like I had 20 chores every weekend until the day I moved out when I was 18.

Have you been good about teaching your kids?

Like, do they know how to like iron a shirt without wrinkling the fabric that's underneath it?

How to separate it over an ironing board and put the sleeve over the little, the little wedge portion of the board and like all that stuff.

Like you don't know it till you know it.

You don't know it till you know it.

Well, I would say there's a yes and a no here because I feel like a lot of the things that I learned from my mom, I either learned because, like you, long list of chores that started right when I got home from school, yeah, and paused only to watch the Mike Douglas show and then right back to the chores.

Um, Mike Douglas, I love that.

Yeah, yeah, and Phil Donahue.

Yeah, I mean, JB, were you ever on the Mike Douglas show?

No, no, I got bumped a couple times, but uh, no, I'm kidding.

Did you?

Um, no, you couldn't possibly, even in your

I did do Murph Griffin.

I did Oprah.

What else?

Phil Donahue?

Yeah,

never Phil Donahue.

You know what?

I slept with this guy

in Chicago.

He was named Phil Donahue.

What a headline this is going to be.

Sean Hayes slept with Phil Donahue.

Not B, Phil Donahue.

A Phil Donahue.

You know, his wife.

Philip K.

Donahue.

No, I just slept with a guy once in Chicago, and then he ended up on the Phil Donahue show because he was the Chicago.

He was the Chicago weatherman that then did porn.

It was so crazy.

And my family.

Wow,

you just said so many things in one sentence.

I know.

Isn't that crazy?

I slept with him once, and I remember his name.

And he was a Chicago weatherman on the TV.

And then one day he was on Phil Donahue because he left that career and was a porn star.

I was like, what?

It was the craziest thing.

Wait,

you had no warning on this.

You were just watching your Donahue.

Yep.

Yep, that's it.

Wow, there he is.

And there's your guy, and he's on there because it was like a porn story that had gone wrong.

No, it was in America.

It was like, wow, there's a gay person on television.

Yep.

That's it.

Yeah, that was way before.

Oh, Shawnee.

Anyway, let's get back to you.

Let's get back.

You know what I want to get?

Everybody take a quick shower.

Yeah.

So, Julia, what I don't know, and maybe Wikipedia can answer this, but I'd love to hear from you.

What was your first professional acting gig?

Yeah.

crime story

one precursor to uh law and order am i being a dumb dennis farina 1950s michael man tv show in las vegas

dennis farina the nicest man the great you could imagine great dennis freena um

and

what was your what was your character were you were you uh were you a damsel in distress or were you a bad i was a 15-year-old girl living with my mother, played by Hannah Cox,

and her,

I feel like, kind of newish husband, and he was maybe not being a good stepfather to me.

No, Julia.

If you catch my

bringing the mood down with this, this is me,

Weatherman turned porn star story.

But

yeah, so did that, and that was a great experience.

And, you know, but

you were living in New York at the time you got cast out of New York?

Yes.

Okay.

So it's a big, it was a big moment.

It was exciting at the time.

Oh, yes.

Oh, it was huge.

It was, it was huge.

So then you were able to sort of start your work and start to gain momentum before there was huge pressure on you to to sort of pay a lot of rent and to really like declare this is what my career is going to be.

So you were still young enough to kind of like dip your toe in it and see if you get any traction.

Is that kind of how things started?

That sounds nice, the way you put all that.

Let's

jot that down.

Well, you know what it is, too?

He likes to bundle.

He's bundling.

I met,

just to say, I met,

there was an agent.

I was with my brother and his girlfriend coming from dinner one night.

And,

you know, they lived uptown.

And so they sort of ran into some people they knew.

And one of one of the women they were chatting with was a talent agent.

And

she, I don't know if she called my brother later or his girlfriend or something and said, oh, you know, does she

act?

And she called me into her office.

And

after a nice conversation, she said, well, I can't do anything for you, but

I know someone who

might be able to, you know, guide you here.

And she sent me to meet this man called Bob McGowan,

who

was from Atlantic City and

was dating the star of all my children, Kim Delaney.

Yes, I know him.

And he was just this, he seemed to me to be

the nicest, most energetic guy with time and money to spare.

And he loved helping young people realize their dreams.

I mean, I once went into, he became my manager.

I once went into his office and said, Bob, I was at the Empire Diner today, and there's this guy.

He was our waiter, and he wants to be an actor.

And I said, you've got to come meet Bob.

He did, and he signed him.

And that was Dylan Walsh.

Oh, my God.

Wow.

So Bob was just this kind of incredible man who just loved being the facilitator.

You know, he just loved putting people together.

And

that was kind of a nice early advocate.

And you stayed with him for a while?

Yes.

Yeah.

And then what was then the project that gave you the kind of momentum that would push you into

sort of like, well, I need not pursue other things.

I think this might work out for at least a few years.

Mystic Pizza.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

You got a pizza.

Didn't you get, did you get nominated for that or no no okay way to go sean

you know

is there

and is it i did get nominated for independent spirit award for mystic pizza that's what you're thinking of sean right that is that's what you're thinking of and i lost to jody foster for five corners all right julia was there was there and

again i say this a lot but at risk of embarrassing you was there sort of mystic pizza you know crime story then mystic pizza and everything was there a kind of a

life before Pretty Woman and life after Pretty Woman?

Is that fair to say?

It must have changed your life in every way.

Well, I, you know,

I kind of,

it was a joke to start with, but it's actually completely true.

When people say, oh, you know, when Pretty Woman came out, did it, did it just completely change your life?

And I said, well, I was out of town when it came out, which is the joke, but I was on location shooting sleeping with the enemy in

a tiny little town, thank you.

And

it wasn't playing at the sticky shoe theater where I was.

And I remember one of the crew guys was reading USA Today and he goes, hey, hey, your movie's in the paper.

And it just kind of said like, you know, box office.

There was like a little square and it said pretty woman and it said what the box office was.

Number meant nothing to me.

I was like, hey,

great.

I mean, I didn't know if it was a great number, if it was a good number, if it was like...

Wow.

And yeah, so in a way,

the momentum of that moment passed me by a little bit.

So I think I was probably spared.

Well, you were also in work mode, and that helps as a distraction to.

that kind of stuff, right?

Do you long for those days of sort of the naivete and sort of just like, well, just kind of just doing the work and having fun and playing make-believe and not being aware of

sort of the machinations of this interesting business?

Or do you like how complicated this business is?

Is it complicated?

Well,

in certain areas, in the areas that are completely unpredictable and without any sort of meritocracy, I guess.

I just feel like

there's so much more

choice

than we allow ourselves to believe.

Like I can choose to get super caught up in some of the things that really we have no control over.

I have long given up reading anything.

Yeah.

And

I still just love doing it for what you're doing, right?

It's so fun.

I love it so much.

It's It's such a goofy little job.

And

I have a Google news alert on you.

Just don't worry.

So I'm reading all your stuff.

And

you're fine.

I'm listening and I'm reading.

Wait, so when Steel, so I, so you were filming Sleeping with the Anime before Steel Magnolias?

No, Steel Magnolias was first.

So I filmed Steel Magnolias.

I filmed Mystic Pizza.

And then I don't you have my IMDB help?

Yeah, I know.

Then I did Mystic Pizza.

Then I did

Steel Magnolias.

Yeah.

Then I did Pretty Woman.

Yeah.

Then I did Flatliners.

Then I did Sleeping with the Enemy.

And then, you know, you know, the thing in Steel Magnolias, Scotty's diabetic.

And when you had that scene, Scotty had a scene like that in real life.

And I had, I'd only watch Steel Magnolias for the first time, like

eight years ago.

Crazy.

What?

No.

Thanks for the support.

Six or seven years.

Oh, my God.

I've seen Sleeping with the Enemy like 17 times.

But I have.

I've seen it a billion times.

But

no,

yeah, that scene was so real.

Scotty's flatlining.

That scene was so real when you had the diabetic thing.

And when he was, when we first started dating, we've been together almost 20 years.

And he would be, he would do.

Let's go on to the next question.

Good lord.

Well, I feel like you're circling the airport.

You're about to take the land.

Can I tell you?

Because you said,

has anything crazy ever happened during a play?

But during screening of Steel Magnolias, there were a lot of reports of people having sort of like physical responses,

reactions to

that.

People who are predisposed to these

outbursts, these crazy wilds.

Julian,

I'm going to tell you a true story, truer than Sean.

and Scotty, I guess, flatlining watching Steel Magnolia.

I don't know what happened, but

he almost died, and it was, but he was going into that kind of shaking, kind of amazing.

And he

here we come.

The landing air is down.

I think the lighting is

down.

It's fine.

It was just amazing.

It was amazing.

It's an amazing performance and how true to life to actually was.

Thank you.

I'm with you.

Someone just told me that there's, I think, a smoothie place or something on Fire Island, and they have a smoothie called Drink Your Juice, Shelby.

Ah, yeah, very good.

Very good.

I want to shake.

I'm going to say that.

Will any Fire Island smoothie jokes?

Hey, Jason.

Come on, Jason.

I just like to see him up, you know?

I'm going to say December 1991.

Thank you, Mary Lou.

I'm in Stowe.

Mary Lou Henner.

I'm with you.

Skiing.

Skiing with my dad and my brother.

I went to Stowe, Vermont.

And I saw you having breakfast in this little breakfast place.

I just remembered that.

I haven't thought about this in years.

And you were with a bunch of people and you were having breakfast.

And

what did I eat?

Not for nothing.

Wow.

And mine was bad.

Yeah.

Well, it just

great stories.

Mine was short.

Yeah.

And I was only there one time.

Stove either.

The one time you were in Soviet.

There you go.

Can we talk about, I think,

I mean, your career is just incredible and enormous and something we can do.

And Aaron Bragovich.

I mean, I want to talk to the extent you're comfortable.

I think one of the greatest things in your life is your marriage.

Forever, and that's not common.

And this guy is like a great guy, incredibly talented.

I'm like, I really dork out over cinematographers.

Can you, would you, are you comfortable talking about like,

is there a key?

Is there a secret?

I mean, this is like a great success story.

And how you met

Danny Motor, everybody.

Danny Motor.

Well, first, let me just say this: is that he,

I mean, I really like your podcast.

He loves this podcast.

And I'm trying to

be on it without telling him so that he would just like be tuning in and all of a sudden

there's his old lady's voice, but it didn't.

That's nice.

And he saw my agenda book and he was like, smartlist.

Yeah, I love that.

I remember seeing you at a charity event and you were with Danny and you just looked at him and you go, and you looked at me and you go, isn't he the best I just love him and it was so sweet I just thought that was so sweet

Julia what's

what's the secret Zon I know I'm getting all sweaty um

you know I it's really

buddies yeah well he's my best friend there you go and

but also the only person I want to make out with so I think it's that combination of things is

amen

yeah but you know what here's the thing because you you just don't know, and you never want to give all the credit away to one person and say, I owe it all to this one person.

But honestly,

the section about Kevin Hubain.

Okay.

Here we go.

I wanted to talk about Danny.

For Tracy, he's an agent.

He's a big agent in Hollywood.

But 25 years later, I mean, I just think, gosh, my life could have gone off the rails.

a hundred different ways in the last 25 years, were it not for

finding my person.

I don't know how, I don't know what small nation of people I saved in a former life.

I feel the same way.

Did you guys work on a project together?

Is that how you met?

Yes, we met on a movie called The Mexican.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, good-looking movie.

Yeah.

And he was, uh,

he was

on that movie.

And I,

they had been shooting for about three weeks and

he

God what was he he was the focus puller in that movie yeah

and he and Brad were always next to each other and always talking right Brad picking sister so I come in and and I'm like the new one and I I'm like you know you know they're talking about I don't know a new

you know record that's come out or something.

I'm like, oh, I love that.

Trying to jump jump in there.

I love that band.

Oh, yeah.

I kind of start humming it and be like, music.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I know.

And they're just like so locked into each other.

I was just looking for a way.

And the conversation

and not realizing that one day this man that I was just trying to have a conversation with would be my husband.

Wow.

That's so cute.

And then you finally, then you finally had a conversation.

We had a conversation and he has not gotten me to shut up in 24 hours.

I love that.

I love that.

I love the fact that you're able to schedule and work out all these kinds of things, you go away, he goes away, let's meet up every couple of weeks.

Like, it's got to be just so difficult.

I know, high-class problems, listener.

These are high-class problems, but you want to know something?

We have, in all these years, and we have three awesome kids,

and

only

one time

in

our lives, and the kids were probably

they were all under five for sure.

And now they're all in college.

But there was one time when I was doing Eat, Pray, Love,

and Danny was shooting a movie in Detroit.

And we were a popular

for seven weeks.

Oh, wow.

That's long.

And I mean, I was lucky because I at least had the kids with me.

But he,

and there was just no way.

Even one time I did have three days off in a row.

And I thought, oh, great.

We can, you know, and even if I went as the crow flies from New Delhi to Detroit,

it wouldn't stop.

We could have hugged and I'd have to turn around.

Like it was so, it was seven weeks.

And when he finished and he came and joined us and

we were just like, wow, that, that will never work.

All right.

You said the kids are in college now.

How recent

have you become an empty nester?

It's been two and a half weeks.

Oh, my God.

So I just, I just sent my first one away, but it was just down the street to USC.

So I'm happy about that.

But

I'm not anticipating doing well when the 13-year-old goes away in five years and being empty, empty.

How are you doing?

Yes, but you and your wife.

are crazy about each other.

So it's all going to be okay.

I think it's when the kids leave and you turn around and you're like,

who are you?

What are you still doing here?

Yeah.

That's when you run into troubles.

You were supposed to go too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, are you still here?

Yeah.

It's amazing.

I love that you revealed just in that, you know, you're the first cover star of the brand new 72 magazine, which is really cool.

And you, and you revealed, George Clooney interviewed you, and you revealed your dream seven-person dinner guest list, which I love.

And the first person you named was Danny, which was great.

Oh, that's good.

And Jesus and Virginia Wolfe and Joni Mitchell.

It was a great list.

I loved it.

Yeah, I mean, it's so funny because whenever someone asks you a question like that and you have to, you know,

rapid fire answer and you feel like, and then afterwards you go like, oh, that'd be a good dinner party.

And then, of course, for the rest of the day, it's like, oh, well, what?

Oh, it should have been this person.

And what about that person?

Yeah, yeah.

But I think I did.

I think I, I mean, wouldn't it Jesus coming to dinner?

Yeah, I was trying to think, what would I ask him?

What would I ask him today?

You know, what was it like last year or something?

Yeah.

George would be a good guest at that, right?

George Clooney.

Yeah, guy can talk.

Yeah.

Very good storyteller.

Great storyteller.

Yeah, he told us that classic about crapping in the cat box.

Oh, my.

It's one of the greatest stories of all time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That is.

And I hadn't heard it until he came out of the pocket.

It was great.

But even better than hearing George tell it is Richard telling it because the voice, Richard's voice is so

great.

i love that guy

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Wait, so I read that you saved a seven-page love letter from Danny to someday show your kids and have you showed your kids?

I that's the first letter he ever wrote me.

I have all the letters, and in fact, someone gave us a great present many years ago: these two beautiful sort of ceramic earthen pots.

And the lid on one pot inside is painted love letters to Julia from Danny and the other one is to Danny from Julia.

And so there's all these like, we're just shoving stuff in there for years.

There's just no telling what's at the bottom of these jars.

But yeah, we are,

we're big on paper.

in our house and our our kids are now too so it's nice to like i opened a book the other day and there was a post-it

from my oldest son in the handwriting of maybe like a seven-year-old, which is not too dissimilar from his handwriting now, but I could see the time.

And it just said,

Mom, I'm so, so, so, so, so, so sorry.

What did I do?

And I thought, oh, I wish I had written on the other side of the post-it, like,

what the

what the what the grievance was.

Other than your wedding day and the birth of your gorgeous children, if you could pick one year to relive,

what would it be?

Because it was so great.

Because it was so great.

Yeah.

I love that.

Somebody just asked me that the other day.

Yeah, Sean's coming with a class.

A whole year.

A whole year or a day.

Or is there one day?

Don't back off, Sean.

Yeah.

No,

mine was

any year in college.

I just loved my college life.

I loved it.

Cool, I'd love to see that.

I was a crazy person.

It was great.

You know,

I don't know.

I'm just thinking any year

that

I could go back and spend with before my father passed away.

He passed away when I was young.

And so I feel like even though I don't kind of say, oh, this was a great year and I want to relive that year, just to have.

any year with the knowledge that this is special because it's not going to last.

Was he the one that was running the theater school?

Was it your dad and your mom together?

It was my dad and my mom together, but I think my dad

was the captain.

Was he alive long enough to start to experience some of your

momentum?

No, I was a child.

Oh, okay.

Very well.

We would have loved it.

Yeah.

Did that, I mean, well, that's just a dumb question, but like, what did you, how did you word it?

How did that affect my life?

How do you still do that now?

No, because my dad, I mean, I guess I haven't thought about it either.

My dad left.

I really will.

My dad left when I was like five or six.

He did?

How?

He just left

the door.

He did?

With the keys?

Yeah.

But I surely came back.

These guys

are cruel.

Was there a vehicle involved?

We got to have one of those things like Stern with the little sound things, just the screeching tires.

Anytime his parents come.

Oh, you're right.

We do.

We need Fred here to do that.

No, but there was there was something like with the fact that i think growing up abandonment can be funny yeah

well it has to be

if you didn't laugh you'd cry i think that that's the kind of you know yeah i mean my mom had alzheimer's too which is once you i cried so she doesn't remember him leaving

oh my god

that's the good news i cannot play like this we find the good in everything

you have to this is julia

this is how we love.

We love each other.

This is how we love.

And also, but if I didn't make jokes or laugh about, I cried for three years straight about my mom having Alzheimer's.

She's passed away since then, but I cried and cried and cried and tried to take care of her.

And every one of our family members tried to care.

And then after a while, you're just, you have to have some levity.

So anyway, one time she was at this

memory care place, and there was a band there.

It was a live band.

And I was sitting with Scotty and his mom.

And we...

What a gig.

Yeah.

And

was one of the top bands.

There are some people who won't remember you.

They're like, should we play some of the old hits?

Doesn't matter.

They don't know.

It's new to them.

Everything's new to them.

You could play a Beatles song and just say, we just wrote this.

That's what I said.

That's what I'm saying.

That's why you have to make light of it because otherwise you'll die crying.

Okay.

so

anyway, this one's satisfaction.

I just wrote it on the car the way here.

So, we're sitting there, and I'm sitting there with Scotty and Scotty's mom.

And all of a sudden, Scotty's mom, who's one of the sweetest people in the world, she gets up and starts dancing.

She says to my mom, Mary, she's like, Mary, come on and dance.

And she's like, Yeah.

And she's like, She's going to get up now.

She tries to grab me.

She goes, Sean, come on, let's dance.

I go, Mom, I don't want to dance.

There's all these people watching in this room, and there's a dance floor.

And I'm like, No, mom, I don't want to watch it.

She goes, come on, let's dance.

I go, no, mom, I don't.

She goes, don't be such a pussy.

And I was like, what?

She would have never said that.

Did you die laughing, though?

Oh, my God.

I laughed.

Did you dance with her?

No.

I was too embarrassed.

Come on.

I know.

I wish I could now.

Blah, blah, blah.

So, anyway, no, she was sweet though.

But anyway, Tracy must have laughed at that one over there.

Oh, God.

So my whole family, we obviously loved her so much.

But anyway, so this is a good one I wrote down because somebody asked me this the other day.

If you had to marry, this is for everybody.

Julia, if you had to marry a woman, guys, if you had to marry a guy, me, if I had to marry a woman, who would it be?

Mine would be Carrie or Raina or Allie or Jen or Amanda.

I would marry Jason's wife, Amanda.

If you had to marry a guy.

That's a lot of people.

And I didn't even make the top 10.

And hang on, I'm not done.

Julia.

Okay, there you go.

I would marry either Francis McNormond or Kate Blanchette or

Emma Thompson.

Nice.

Wow.

Those are good answers.

Those are pretty good.

There's more, but I'm limiting myself to three.

Yeah.

Guys,

I would marry one of these two guys because of the formula you were talking about before, which is you got to marry a friend if you want it to last.

That's what I'm saying.

I've always thought.

And so far I'm right, because

I do really like that, Amanda.

I'd marry, I'd same thing.

I'd marry one of these two guys because they're guys that I love and that I like.

And Jason,

we'd be able to share golf clubs.

And because we have, like, I tried his wedge the other day, it was great.

And also Jason, because I'd love to marry a known bottom.

You don't want to have to do any fighting, right?

No negotiating.

Right.

And no, truly, truly, I would be one of these two guys.

I love these guys so much.

I love you guys, too.

I want to hear about your new thingy, Killia.

So I just watched it last night.

I couldn't watch it.

Notes, you know, they're locked.

They're locked, Sean.

So I watched that.

I loved it so much.

After the hunt.

It's called After the Hunt.

I just watched it last night.

What an awesome,

dark, complicated character you're playing.

As always, I believed every moment, every word coming out of your mouth.

Yeah, you're aware of that.

And it was crafted in such a way that reminded me of, and now After the Hunt will be on that list, Doubt,

what's the other one?

Like Conclave, After the Hunt.

Like they're all kind of brilliantly made, brilliantly performed.

Your performance was incredible.

And the end, I was like, because the whole time I'm like, what's going on?

What is happening?

And then the reveal was so cool.

I mean, crazy, but cool.

Yeah.

Anyway, thanks for coming.

Love to be.

You must be proud of it.

It sounds like it sounds like a pretty high-level

what drew you to the material.

Luca Guadanino, who is just

Call Me By Your Name.

I mean, tons of great ones.

He is so wonderful as a person and so innovative and

the most curious person I've ever met.

He's so curious about people and why we do the things we do and why we don't do things and

just every detail of every

everything

he is

there's nothing that you're seeing that hasn't been specifically chosen in this shade of color and this statue and this painting being slightly askew or you know whatever i mean it's just really it's

a really cool moment too when you guys you and um oh forgive me i aya right io io debrief so sorry so when you and I, I are, it's kind of towards the end, and you have this incredible scene outside of this building, and

it starts as like regular over the shoulder, and then it just cuts to you guys, looking right into the camera.

I love that.

It was so effective as you're finishing this argument, just right into the camera, cutting back and forth directly.

It was really cool.

Oh, I can't wait.

By the way, six-minute standing ovation at the Venice Film Festival.

Yeah, yeah, wow, really.

People tried to sit down.

I was like, oh, no, no, no,

Don't be rude.

I just loved it.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm glad.

Thank you.

I'm glad you got to see it.

Luca just texted me.

How crazy?

Crazy.

Wow.

Tell him he's doing well.

He must have felt us talking about it.

Is it nice to launch a film at a festival like that as opposed to just sort of a standard kind of release where it just kind of comes out?

I've never really had an experience like this before.

So it's nice to do new things, you know, especially this.

What do you mean?

What do you mean you haven't had an experience?

Well, I mean, I've never been to the Venice Film Festival for one thing.

And

I mean, I guess George and I went to Cannes a few years ago, but that was the first time I'd ever been to Cannes.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Because on television, they all look so terrifying.

Like, why would you want to put yourself there?

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

You know, so if people say, oh, do you want to go to Cannes?

No, thank you.

Off season.

Off-season.

Yeah.

It just looks so terrifying.

People screaming.

But what about all the, what about all the glam and festivities of it all?

Is that

appealing in the, just in the slightest, playing dress up and all that stuff?

Once you say yes, like once you commit to it, then you have to have a sporting event mentality about it.

You have to, you're going to have a great time.

Danny had on a tuxedo.

I was just,

oh, it was great.

That part was great.

One final question before we let you go, because we've taken up way too much of your time.

What is the coolest or weirdest or amazing piece of memorabilia from any film?

Have you kept anything that you love?

That's a good question.

That is a good question.

Because there are so many iconic films.

Non-contaminated soil from Aaron Brockovich, surely.

But no, water samples, no.

But I haven't done anything cool like

a

or a costume or like a shirt or anything.

I have a lot of costumes.

I have a lot of costumes.

Yeah.

And

somewhere I actually think I have

some wedding dresses from Runaway Bride.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

Yeah.

Do you have a place you keep them?

Like, I mean, like a scepter from your house.

Probably dangerously just in the garage in New Mexico.

And maybe there's just

generations of mice that have made homes now that they're on it.

They're trying it on.

They're on these boxes.

Yeah, but not really more like I have a beautiful

drawing that Meryl Streep did for me of my character that she gave me as a rap gift from August Osage County.

Oh, I love that movie.

That's so good.

I love some things like that.

I love that.

What a a cute

fish produced that movie.

Yeah, Eat of Fish Bitch.

George Clooney produced that movie.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah, that's very good.

Okay, so it premieres.

So it's called After the Hunt.

It premieres.

Wait, Select Theaters, October 10th, and Wider, October 17th.

It's so good.

I mean, I just loved it.

I loved it so much.

Thank you.

Julia, you're the greatest.

You guys are so fun.

I honestly,

this has just zipped by, and I.

It was quick, right?

I just want, I want a chance chance to do it again and be quick and witty and

one of the dudes.

No,

you are.

You are amazing.

Come back anytime you want to.

Can we just talk about the microphone that Will Arnett has in his apartment?

Yeah, of course.

What is up with that?

It's janky right now.

I'm in a makeshift situation because I just moved in here yesterday.

Yo, let's get the whisper booth all set up, huh?

I know, I know, I know.

It's nothing's great.

The internet's not great.

I got the windows open because the AC is broken.

I got a guy here.

You got a real

vital VO career.

You got a real career.

Don't we get to see?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, those chairs are nice.

These chairs.

Do we get to see

your guest star?

Yeah.

Where's your babe?

Let's pull your babe in real quick.

She just went out.

She just went out.

Oh, sure.

Oh, she just went out.

She just left.

I think it's all fake.

I think what you guys, yeah, it's like it's a fake media story.

No, we're thrilled for you.

Well, yeah, we are.

I'm thrilled.

Julia, Julia, thank you.

You're incredible.

Thank you for saying yes to me.

Talk about a thrill.

Come back anytime you want, Mrs.

Oh, thanks.

Thank you.

Just proud of Danny.

It goes without saying, I've been such a fan of yours for so long.

You're so great at what you do.

Yes.

Thank you.

Sure, please.

Truly.

Thank you.

And can I just say, and sorry to leave you out, Sean, because I am your guest and I appreciate you so much.

That's a good advice.

But arrested development.

Danny and I ate that show up like ice cream.

And I'm happy to report that our youngest son, who's 18, just started college.

Episode one, pilot, we just started all over again, me and him together.

We are

invite me over because I haven't seen them since then, and I want to watch them all again.

And my kids won't watch anything I do.

Come over.

We'll go back to the pilot.

We will back this right up.

Jason and I haven't watched.

We used to watch when it first came on the air, I'd go over Sundays.

We'd watch football together and we'd watch the episodes as it aired.

We were like, wow, this is so crazy.

Yeah.

And then we'd wake up in the morning and we'd call in for the overnights.

It's

how much is going on all the time is

extraordinary.

It is extraordinary.

Well, you know Mitch Hurwitz.

Julie, I know you know Mitch a little bit.

Yeah.

And I just spoke to for the first time in a few months two days ago out of the block.

How's he doing?

He's doing okay.

Yeah.

You know, he's the funniest guy.

Immediately you start texting with him and he's the funniest person of all time.

Yeah, a great guy.

I mean, that show really is one in a million for Sean's going to catch it one of these days.

We're going to give you some tapes, Sean.

We're going to make him watch it clock record style.

Yeah.

Well, thank you, Julia, for being with us today.

Enjoy the rest of your day and good luck with the film.

After the hunt.

Can't wait.

Coming in October.

After the hunt.

October 10th.

October 10th.

Wide, October 17th.

My birthday, October 28th.

Oh, great.

That's Frannie's birthday.

My aunt.

October.

It's the

great day.

It's the big month now.

It's three days after my son Archie and Wendell Clark's birthday.

Okay, it doesn't matter.

It's like three and a half months and a week, a couple of weeks after.

Anyway, so

I love you to pieces.

Thank you for being here.

Must have love you guys.

Thank you.

You too.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

Wow, Sean.

Isn't she great?

I love her.

By the way, for so long, she's been on my list for so long.

I'm sure she's on our list.

Yeah, of every list.

I know.

Name the list.

She's at the top.

Iconic.

I was looking at her list of credits and you're just like, bang, bang, bang, bang, one big movie after another.

It's just.

Has even taken pauses, you know, as

she's elected to take pauses and the industry just keeps her place in line.

And she comes back in and she's just, bang, another incredible director she works with.

Yeah.

You know, it's it's an incredible career, yeah.

And that movie's really good, yeah.

That's I can't wait to see that movie.

It's not, it's not about it's not in the English countryside chasing foxes on horses, right?

No, this is this is not

none of that.

It's not about a salon after the hunt wherever you're sitting in the drawing room talking about the hunt, wonderful shot back then, Jeans.

Oh, that's tricky little fox,

Tricky little fox.

Yeah, what else can you say?

She is, you know, I was going to talk, ask her about being called America's sweetheart because she's been called that for her whole life and what that means.

Like, if she hates that anymore, you know, it's like, it's true.

Everybody, there's nobody that doesn't love her.

Right.

But it's also like you can, you can hate it, but like, it is something maybe you could look back on when you're, you know, lying on the bed, taking your last 25 breaths and going, like, it was pretty cool that I held that title, you know?

Yeah, I mean, for so long.

She's awesome.

And there's other friends of ours that have that title as well.

There are those that share it for sure.

I share it.

Well, hang on.

So many people.

I don't know.

Who was thinking of a buy?

Yo, I know.

Well, you're Googling something.

Let's see what you found.

I just loved her story about that.

She kept the dresses from runaway.

Rye.

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