From Root of Evil to So Supernatural: AMA with Rasha & Yvette

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Surprise! In this bonus AMA, Rasha and Yvette answer your questions – from honoring the legacy of their mom, Fauna Hodel, to sharing the supernatural moments that shaped their lives. Come for the stories, stay for the sisterhood… and just a touch of the mystical!

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Miss, I've been hitting up McDonald's for years.

Now it's back.

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So I know we said that we would be off this week.

We sure did.

But then we thought, hey, let's try something different.

And we're going to be sharing more about ourselves with all of you and and answering all of your burning questions.

So welcome to our AMA episode.

Oh my God.

So we just can't tell you guys how grateful we are that you have stuck around ever since Miss Ashley passed the mic over to us.

And today,

we really would just love to share more about who we are.

Exactly.

So please stick around and let's peel back the curtain a little bit, if you will.

I'm Rasha Pecaro.

And I am her big big sister, Yvette Gin Teele.

And a como mai or welcome to a very special bonus episode of So Supernatural.

So our first question is, can we hear more about what you and your mom experienced?

And to answer this question, let us just take y'all back a little bit.

So if you are new to us as sisters or new to So Supernatural and don't know a lot about us, all it would take would be a quick Google,

really.

And don't believe TMZ, I did not leave my ex-husband for my wife, okay?

That is not what happened, but we'll get into that another day.

But our origin story really comes from our beautiful mother, Fauna Hodel.

Yeah, mom was an angel.

She was the biggest, brightest, most positive light on this planet.

And she had a mission.

She had a mission to tell her story.

She was a young white child given away at birth to a black family.

She experienced all kind of trials and tribulations, but it made her stronger.

And she,

like,

she just fought tooth and nail to bring her story to light.

And I won't go into all the details because it was a long, long,

long haul before she met Patty Jenkins and Patty did I Am the Night with TNT.

And our mother's story finally came to fruition.

But With that all being said, we lost our beautiful mother on September 30th, 2017.

And this was just months before her dream was to actually come to life.

So Rasha and I had to

grieve, you know, as we were on the set watching what our mother put,

what our mother made happen without her.

So it was So bittersweet for so many reasons.

You know, it was sweet because she did it.

You know, we were like, she did it.

But at the same time, it was shit.

Why isn't she here to witness this?

She was with us, though.

I know she was.

But when somebody works that hard for their life mission and then is not present, physically present to be there.

Yeah,

it was a lot.

It was a lot.

But then we got this opportunity to get involved in podcasting.

podcasting.

And we just had to figure out what a podcast was.

Yeah, we had no idea.

We were like, sure, we'll do it.

No clue.

And we did Root of Evil.

Root of Evil, the true story of the Hodell family and the black dahlia, was our very first podcast.

And the amazing showrunner, Sam Sheridan, Patty Jenkins' husband, asked us to do a companion podcast to I am the night.

And that is what Root of Evil ended up being.

And it involved our entire family it was written directed and produced by the amazing zach levitt and it changed our lives and like yvette said we were grieving but at the same time we became almost famous overnight during the today show dr oz dr phil all

all the things

and our mom wasn't there with us

but

She raised us

for that moment, for this moment.

Truly.

To be telling supernatural stories, to be telling other people's stories, because at the root of everything, mom was a storyteller.

She wanted to tell her story, but then she wanted to know yours.

Yeah, always.

And when we talk about supernatural, just to go back to so supernatural, when we got the call and they said, do the girls, would they be interested in doing supernatural, anything supernatural?

We're like, ah, yes.

Because when we look back, like on my mom's, on our mom's journey, I'm the oldest.

Our mom.

I know.

I'm the oldest.

So I always tend to say, my.

We're 11 years apart, different fathers, but we were raised together.

Yes, our mom.

But mom had me when she was, you know, 15.

So I was like her, her baby, her sister, her daughter, like all the things, you know.

But when I look back on mom's story of her growing up, she always experienced so many different supernatural occurrences, you know, where she had a grandmother who came to her, Big Mama, and warned her in the middle of the night to get out of the house, to leave this particular house that she was living in, or she would not survive.

The spirit of Big Mama.

The spirit of Big Mama, yes.

So a ghost of Big Mama.

And all through her life, she had these supernatural happenings that kind of guided her, not kind of, but most definitely guided her throughout her life.

So when you say supernatural, supernatural is truly in our DNA.

Yes.

And after we did Root of Evil, we did Facing Evil, and that was other people's stories.

But supernatural, we get to tell all these amazing stories and still

weave ourselves into it because you can't tell a story without feeling some type of connection to it, right?

Yeah, 100%.

And I think that's, that's the beauty of it.

You know, when you hear these stories, yes, some of them are so far-fetched and a lot of people are so skeptical, like,

no, that didn't really happen.

But when you listen to these people, like they have had an experience that a lot of them has changed the trajectory of their lives.

You know, when you talk about people that have had encounters with aliens or saw spaceships, I mean, I can think of one that sticks out to me.

You know, it's the Phoenix Lights, which I love.

And

Dr.

Lynn Katai, like it changed the course of her life because she kept seeing and experiencing these flying spaceships, right?

Or aircraft, whatever you want to call them.

And she fullheartedly believed in what she saw.

And we believed her.

For sure.

For sure.

So one of the other questions that we got is which one of us is more skeptical about the supernatural?

I think we're pretty split.

I think my personality is probably a slight bit more skeptical.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Are you trying to say that I'm gullible and naive?

Is that what you're saying?

Oh, no, I'm not saying that.

Okay, no, I'm just saying that I'm the older, wiser.

No, it's right.

She loves to say that.

I know I do love to say that, but no, you are very wise for your age, for certain.

I'm not trying to be, you know, cynical.

No.

Yeah,

says the one who is obsessed with aliens and believes every single alien story that we've ever told.

That is not true.

I don't believe every single one, but I do believe that there are aliens that walk among us.

I do believe that.

So there is that.

Okay, I got one for you, Rash.

Okay.

Have you ever had an experience with a supernatural force?

Like

physically you yourself?

So I have one story that I think I've told you this before, but if you haven't, our listeners definitely don't know it.

So I was about 14.

This was at my dad's house in Wai Laiki.

And this is way before I realized I was gay.

So I snuck a boy into our house.

No one else was home.

And I was doing things I shouldn't have been doing.

And right as I was about to do something that no 14 year old should do, Leilani, if you're listening, listen to mommy.

Don't do what mommy did.

And

I heard

glass just shattering.

Like

every sound you can think of, just glasses shattering all over the place.

And I got so nervous.

I was like, oh my God, my parents are home.

My dad and my stepmom are home and I'm going to get in trouble.

So I kicked him out, ran out to the kitchen where I heard the noise coming from.

And we used to have these just display wine glasses that were on the table.

And all of the windows were closed.

There was no wind blowing.

And all of those glasses, these beautiful translucent glass wine glasses and a wine carafe

were on the ground on the carpet, but they weren't shattered at all.

They were sitting perfectly on the ground on the carpet.

I'm like, there is no way that they fell down.

Yeah, and made that noise on the carpet.

Never, never.

There's no way.

And a little backstory to the Wailaiki house, my father was convinced that it was haunted by the spirit of Pele.

He said he always saw Pele in her tutu form and tutu in Hawaiian means grandma.

So I was convinced.

I'm like, oh my God, Pele did that because she didn't want me messing around with a boy

and doing something I just wanted to do.

Like, I don't know how to get him out.

Right, right.

And so I know that was supernatural because there was no physical way that could have happened.

Yeah.

And just to clarify, like, we didn't live in the same house at that time.

You lived with your dad and I lived with mom.

I knew you were going to be a little bit more.

And I would go back and forth.

Yes.

Just to clarify, I had 50-50 time.

Well,

one of my

supernatural stories, and I think I've definitely told you and I've written about it before.

When I was probably about five years old, my grandmother, Jimmy Lee, was babysitting me.

Mom was at work.

I had just come from Aunt Rosie's house with a bunch of kids and I was begging to go back.

And she had just about had enough of me, my grandmother, Jimmy Lee.

So she was kind of in one of her moods.

She did drink a lot.

So there is that.

And she kicked me out of the house at five years old.

I remember she put on my red little coat and and said, well, if you want to go, just get out and kicked me out.

Snowing.

This is in Reno.

In Reno, Nevada, where I was born.

I started walking and I had no idea where I was going, but I crossed a main street.

I thought I knew where I was going, you know, as a child, like trying to remember.

At five years old.

At five years old, trying, right?

Anyhow, I get across the street and all of a sudden I've, I felt this presence.

My grandfather, Homer, who had passed probably a year before, this is like in the 70s, the early 70s, right?

71, 72.

And it said a voice, I could hear a voice saying, go this way, walk this direction, right?

So I changed my path.

I went to the left.

I started walking.

And somehow I ended up in front of my godmother's house.

And she looked out the window just at that time and it was like, what is Little Ybet doing in front of my house?

But my point in this story is I was so close to my grandfather that his spirit was literally carrying me, this five-year-old child, you know, not knowing which way she was supposed to be going, carrying me, walking me to safety.

And ever since that moment in my life as a five-year-old,

I've always known that I would be divinely blessed and protected.

That's what mom always used to say to us.

And that's what mom always used to say as well.

Oh, that's beautiful.

I love that story.

And you left out the part where you were wearing a little red coat.

No, I said that.

Oh, you did.

You missed it.

So rude.

Pay attention to your sister.

Linda, listen.

Lisa.

Listen, Linda.

Oh, sorry.

Oh, so that, I mean, that's a miracle in itself.

That's a question that we got.

Anything, you know, that is good and supernatural, like miracles or supernatural protection, like that is an example of it.

Yes, 100%.

And I believe that every single thing that's happened to us as sisters,

and

really truly, that's happened to us since mom passed away in 2017, from being on set of I'm the night, from being asked to do root of evil, to do facing evil, to so supernatural, each path that led us there, I think, was supernatural and was a true miracle because we've always wanted to be in the entertainment industry in some capacity.

Our mom literally raised us

for all of these moments.

Well, truly, mom did.

And what mom, what our mother really wanted us, she always wanted us to work together because we were doing it, you know, we're 11 years apart.

So I was always doing my modeling and my acting and my own thing.

And you were doing your own sports.

Yeah, sports.

Another reason.

Hello.

Rasha, you're a lesbian.

You should have known that when you were seven and you threw your first softball.

I didn't come out till I was 30.

So

there's so many stories with that, too.

That would be a whole episode.

But she, she always wanted us to be together, you know, because she loved.

When you talk about a mother who loved her children, her girls, like we were her everything.

And still in the afterlife, we are her everything.

And everything that we do is for her right absolutely but she so wanted us to be together you know and share stories because she was the best storyteller so for us to be sitting here at this moment when you talk about divine timing that's supernatural that's supernatural

Another question we got was, if we have had any experiences with the Night Marchers or any other supernatural forces in Hawaii.

So growing up in Hawaii, thank God I did not experience the Night Marchers like in person, but there was a time growing up when I was probably, I was, I don't know,

16, 17, we would go to the graveyard in Pearl City in Hawaii and we would like sit out there, do things we probably weren't supposed to be doing.

What were you doing?

Probably drinking or

I mean, I didn't smoke, but probably you know whatever and we would sit around and like

wait until midnight to hear the night marchers oh my goodness but then you start getting freaked out because every little noise that you hear in a cemetery you think is the night marchers

so that didn't last too long and for those of you that don't know who or what the night marchers are They are basically ali'i or from the kingdom of Hawaii and they're warriors that take a path normally from the mountains so from the mountains to the ocean and they're spirits but if you cross their path you could be killed or it's just it's about respect right so like if you see them you're supposed to turn away you're supposed to say

yeah it's yeah stay tuned i'm sure we'll do an episode on night marchers and i want to interview lopaka kapunui from mysteries of hawaii because he's the most amazing storyteller and has even written a book about the Night Marchers.

And anyway, I digress, but

we are, you know, we are island girls through and through.

So there are so many incredible Hawaiian folklore stories that we want to dive into, you know, and we want to take you on that journey as well.

And I feel like I was always protected, even though I had a very tumultuous childhood on one side, not with you and mom, of course, course, but I always felt that I was surrounded by spirits and protection.

And I think that's probably because mom always, you know, instilled that in us.

Well, I have to say, I think that that is Hawaii because

The Aina, the land, right, is so sacred.

And for those people who have never been, once you go, you will understand exactly what I mean the moment you step off that plane.

There is just this energy there, and it's you can't explain it, but you can feel it like from the bottom of your toes to the top of your head, that it is some deep, sacred stuff.

Yes, absolutely.

And that's one thing I'll always be proud of being born and raised in Hawaii because

it has what we call mana, which is

spirit and magical and energy.

The energy of the Aina, the land.

It's so magical.

Okay, here is another question.

If you could have any supernatural experience, what would you want that experience to be and why?

Don't make me cry.

Well, we're both going to say the same thing.

I know.

It would be to see our mom.

Yeah.

To see her smile, to feel her embrace.

We want her to happily haunt us.

I mean, I know I'm crying right now.

You probably can't see that, but I, I want her to happily haunt us.

And she promised me

when I was little, I used to hate getting my hair brushed.

Do you remember this?

Yes, no, I do.

I do.

And I would, I'd be like, no, mom, don't brush my hair again.

And she'd be like, just wait.

I'm going to haunt you one day when I die and I'm going to be brushing your hair.

And she hasn't done it.

Yes.

She's done it.

I know.

So that's a, you know, I think for

anybody out there who has lost a parent you know we call it excuse my french we call it the fucked up club

because it is and it's like especially when you have a parent that loved you like

unconditionally and you the same with them it's so

it's just the hardest thing you will ever experience in your life and to be able to have one more moment

is everything yeah So haunt us, mom, please.

Yeah, please haunt us.

Please haunt us.

When I think about one of this, a haunting for me, right, with mom, my mom loved my hair naturally curly.

She did.

So whenever I wear it straight or have it blown out, like I could hear my mom saying,

why are you doing that?

Like, you need to wear your hair naturally curly more.

Well, today, mom, hello.

I'm in studio and guess what?

My hair is curly.

Yeah, and our mom rarely got mad at us.

Mom was the most supportive, loving human being ever.

Yeah, she was our, our biggest cheerleader.

Okay, so we're switching gears a little bit.

We got the question, what unsolved true crime case would you love to know the answer to?

I think you know

what you're going to say.

I

have been obsessed, not, I mean, okay, yes, I should say, yes.

John Benet Ramsey.

I knew you'd say her.

I

just

remember this happening when I was at home in Hawaii and I had done pageants early on.

So I

was just

so devastated, so sad.

But this case is just never ending because first you think it's the mom, then you think it's the dad, then you think it's an intruder and then you think it's the bru like yeah that's and i know ashley just did this you know with the father and yeah i would love to know that but i'd also

okay i might get some hate for this but i'm gonna say it because i need to know the absolute 100 truth because i'm 99.9 sure that he did commit the crimes, but I want to 100%

for sure know

that O.J.

Simpson.

Oh, that's what you're going to say.

Who did you think I was going to say?

I thought you were going to say Scott Peterson.

Well, I was thinking about that too.

Okay.

So really, there's two.

So I'd want to know 100% that O.J.

Simpson killed Nicole Brown, Simpson, and Ron Goldman.

And I want to know 100% what happened to Lacey Peterson because I'm not.

And her son, her unborn son.

Of course.

And her unborn son, Connor.

Yeah.

I think that's where I became a crime junkie first was with, you know, the Nicole Brown, Simpson, and Ron Goldman case.

And I always like to lead with the victims rather than the perpetrator.

Always.

Always.

But I'd want to know 100%

for sure.

Because justice needs to be served, even if those people are long gone, the people who need to be convicted.

Yes, agreed.

Okay, what is the next question we have for y'all?

Okay, what episode of So Supernatural has been your favorite to look into and record so far?

La Lorona is my absolute favorite episode we've ever recorded.

And the reason being is because one of our family friends, one of my best friends in the entire world, Jessica Ariza, we called her when we were preparing for La Lorona and she told us all sorts of stories because she is of Mexican descent.

Yeah, Mexican descent.

And when we asked her, have you ever heard of La Lorona?

And the first thing she said is, what Mexican hasn't.

And then I went down the TikTok, you know, rabbit hole and saw all of these videos that are pretty believable.

And you were in Mexico.

And I was in Mexico back.

This is in the year 2000.

I was there for like three weeks.

I was in Solchimilco and I actually saw, I can't remember the Spanish name of the island, or no, it's the island of the island of the dolls.

It's where all these dolls are hanging from these trees and where they think La Lorona was.

And I actually was there, but I didn't connect the dots until Jessica was telling us the story.

And it was so heartbreaking and so fascinating at the same time.

Yeah, it's a wild Mexican folklore story.

And I remember watching the legend of La Lorona with Danny Trejo.

Oh, the movie the movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And

they go to the island of the dolls.

One, I was there in person in 2000, and I was dating someone from Mexico at the time.

And he had, again, I wasn't out yet.

And he didn't have a really good, he wasn't very good at translating between English and Spanish.

So I thought it was a man that had killed his children, not La Lorona that had killed her children.

And there was this old man on the island of the dolls.

And I'm like, why is there a killer on the island of the dolls?

And I was so freaked out on my little boat ride.

Jeez.

But it was a tourist attraction in, you know, right outside of Mexico City in Solchimilco.

But when Jessica was telling us the stories, then it all connected for me.

It was nuts.

But what episode of So Supernatural has been your favorite?

There's so many.

At the top of my mind, there's two right now.

Okay.

So there's the Bell Air House that we just did, which is in Ohio.

And this, this story just, again, it's one of those houses, you know, that have crazy supernatural energy going on.

But the thing that, I guess, that gets into my psyche so much is what happened on the land before

the house was built.

What Native Americans lived on this property before or what

happened in the 1900s?

There was a man who lived there who had a coal mine and there was supposedly an explosion and a bunch of people passed away.

Like there's that energy.

Then there's also something that I had never heard of before, which is called the ley lines.

Right.

And these are spiritual

cross lines of where there are possible portals of energy that could come through.

And that house sits on one of these particular ley lines this just baffles me to

i can't even i get so like i get a little i get worked out worked up and i get a little geeked out because i think oh my god okay so you have the spiritual right and then you have the scientific because is it just electromagnetic energy that is under these grounds or is it an actual spiritual portal of of some kind right right and I said this on one of the episodes I wish we could have the medium Allison Dubois and Neil deGrasse Tyson come and like we can have a like talk to

a battle science versus spiritual

but that that particular story was fascinating to me there's another one the Carol a Deering about this ghost ship that you're obsessed with that I'm obsessed with that all of the people on the ship just disappeared no trace.

Gone.

Like, what do you think happened?

This is the thing.

Again, I'm the type, I like to read.

I like to watch documentaries.

I like to watch movies.

So I started watching 1899 on Netflix, which talks about a ghost ship.

Well, they, they're describing like all these different portals that these people could have disappeared through.

Now, do I think that happened?

I don't know.

Is it interesting to assume that happened?

very much so but i it's just like where where do they go like how can there still be food like on the tables and then there's nobody there was it a mutiny did they just disappear out of thin air like the bodies have never been found granted there could have been sharks or animals you know that ate the bodies but i don't know it just doesn't add up so these are like mysteries that i can't seem to get out of my mind

Okay, here we go.

We got another one.

What supernatural story do you believe is 100% true?

I know what you're going to say, so I can't take that answer.

I will say,

even though I've never physically seen one myself, I would say ghosts or spirits.

I 100%

believe in them.

I have felt things, I have heard things, but I have never seen things, but I still 100% believe that ghosts and spirits exist in this world.

I absolutely 100% agree with you.

And I just want to backtrack a little bit when I was telling that story when I was a little girl, remember?

Fast forward years later, I was in Oregon.

I was modeling in Portland, Oregon, and I was with my friend Shayla.

Do you remember this story?

I do.

We were at this cute little restaurant in Lake Oswego, and she started to tell me that there is a, there's a presence of a woman here who wants to speak to you.

And I was like, wait, what?

And she said, she's coming through as your grandmother

and she wants to apologize to you for throwing you out of the house when you were five years old or however old I was.

And that was Jimmy Lee.

And that was Jimmy Lee.

And she started to describe like our house, my grandmother's house.

Like my grandmother had plastic over her couch back then, and

like the window frame, the curtains.

And it, it brought me to tears in that restaurant that she was actually coming through

Shayla

to apologize to me.

So I

100%

agree with that as well.

As well,

as you all know what I'm going to say, aliens, aliens, and aliens.

I absolutely believe that they do walk among us.

I just feel like there's too much out there to not believe that they don't exist.

Couldn't agree more.

Actually, I have to tell you the story.

I didn't tell you this story.

Oh my gosh.

So I was just home in Hawaii.

Gino and I were home in Hawaii.

We were out on the balcony in Waikiki.

And it was probably about 10 o'clock at night.

And we were looking to the Ebeside, you know, the mountain range of the Ebeside from where we were.

And there was this light that kept bouncing in and out, like over the range and then back.

And I'm not talking like an airplane.

An airplane, you know, it was like something unotherly.

And I was like, Gino, did you see that?

Did you see that?

And he, and we got, we actually, we had our binoculars and he took a look and he's like, I do, I see it.

But it was, I couldn't explain it.

It was, it was moving way too fast.

Granted, it wasn't close like some people have had encounters because let me just tell you, I would love to be one of those people who saw it up close.

You just want to see the spacecrafts.

You don't want to see the actual aliens.

I don't know.

I mean, probably, but I think I would, I want to see the spacecraft first.

Just to know.

Just to know that it's real.

Yeah.

That's so funny.

I know.

I don't think you told me that story.

Yeah, I've totally forgot.

I know.

And listeners, you have to know, Yvette and I talk like five or six times a day.

So I'm shocked that she didn't tell me that story.

You've had a lot going on in the last couple of months, too.

So this is true.

This is true.

But I would love, I would love to see a spaceship.

Spaceship.

All right.

Have you ever changed your opinion on a supernatural story while looking into it and working on an episode of So Supernatural?

I have to say when we did the episode on the monoliths,

at first my mind, because you know my mind always goes directly to, it's got an alien alien.

They put it there.

They did it, you know.

But what I think about that story and how easy it was to dismantle this, I thought, you know, I think this is definitely probably an artist

that put it there.

Maybe an artist that passed away.

I think we spoke about that in the episode.

And maybe someone who carried on that legacy, right, of this particular artist and then just started putting them up in other places.

But I don't believe that those were put there by aliens per se.

Hmm.

What about you?

Well, for me,

when...

We first started, you know, doing our research and diving into Dear David.

I like really believed everything that happened.

happened, but I think,

and again, everyone's truth is their truth.

Yeah.

Right.

But I think that the BuzzFeed writer that experienced seeing Dear David, I have a feeling it was more of very vivid bad dreams.

I think, like, especially because like I went to his Instagram and I like kind of like went on a rabbit hole.

Stalked him a little bit.

And I was like, oh, this is like his whole identity.

You know what I mean?

Like he talked about it.

I mean which is fine but I was like I don't I don't know because in the moment when I saw the photos of dear David you know I could like I know you couldn't really see I couldn't I couldn't you know see dear David on the the camera but I thought that I could but then going back I was like no it was kind of a stretch a little bit but again everyone's truth is their truth

yeah and I think I was always a little skeptical well I mean I teeter a little bit back and forth because he was a comedic writer.

You know what I mean?

And then to go from something, you know, funny to something so dark.

Again,

these people are experiencing whatever they're experiencing in real time to them, right?

So whether it be true or not to us, it is definitely true to them.

Yeah.

All right, another question we got.

If you really knew me, you would know that.

I am a very old soul.

I feel like I have walked this earth a few times over.

I don't sweat the small stuff.

I live in the moment and I always project for people to do the same, to take their moments, to take their breaths, to go to the ocean because that, the ocean, is my happy place.

It is my peace of mind.

It is my sanctuary.

I love life.

I love people.

I love giving.

I think the most important thing in this world

is to be kind to one another.

And that is what our mother like so instilled in my sister and I.

And I think that is what is so infectious and contagious

about us.

Yeah.

We try to lead with kindness always.

Even when you want to punch someone in the head.

Yeah, even

then.

Even then.

Lead with aloha.

Lead with kindness.

What about you, Russia?

So for me, if you really knew me, you would know that first and foremost, I am from the beautiful island of Oahu in Honolulu, Hawaii.

I always lead with that.

Always, because that is so much of who I am as a human being.

And I think that our mom made the conscious decision to raise both of us there.

I'm blonde-haired, blue-eyed.

Yvette is this beautiful biracial goddess.

And she, our mom, decided to raise us in a place where racism isn't as prevalent as it is in other places in the world because she didn't want us to experience what she experienced.

So I think that's such a huge thing for me.

And I'm a huge advocate.

Even before I came out as a lesbian at the age of 30, I always wanted to fight for what was right.

Always.

I always try to lead with kindness, even when I'm fighting.

But I believe in human rights.

I believe in equality.

And I think that stems from our mom.

Right.

Well, we believe in humanity for all.

Yes.

And that is what mom fought for her entire life, you know,

a white woman raised in a black environment at a very

thinking she was mixed, but years later finding out.

But, you know, always wanting to just show kindness and love, she just thought racism was the most stupidest thing on the planet, you know, and to have

two girls that were so different,

she just, she wanted us to empower and

hold the highest and the best for ourselves and for the world itself, right?

Absolutely.

Okay, y'all, so now we're going to go into some rapid fire questions.

What would you say to someone that is new to you and So Supernatural?

If you're new here, hey Como Mai, welcome to So Supernatural.

We're going to giggle, we're going to cry, we're going to go through all of it, and we'll give you all the theories.

Okay, what's your biggest pet peeve?

When people don't don't believe that Yvette and I are sisters because of the way that we look.

And when they say, oh, you're only half sisters.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We're sisters.

Yeah, I have to agree.

That is my biggest pet peeve as well, because yes, hello, we are sisters.

It is possible.

I know.

We came out of the same womb, people.

Yeah.

Just have different.

But I guess one of my other biggest pet peeves is when people don't listen and just form their own opinion without hearing what someone else is truly saying.

That's a good one.

All right, here's another one.

What's your go-to energy drink?

I do not have a go-to energy drink.

You used to.

And then I got heart palpitations, so I could not drink it anymore.

She gives me stink eye every time I have a Rud Bull, but I don't care.

I love them.

Let's just say, my go-to energy drink is green tea.

Oh my God, you're so boring.

We got another one.

Are you a morning or afternoon person?

I am a morning person.

I am not a morning person.

I am more of an afternoon person.

Because to be honest, after I was diagnosed with breast cancer, I feel like this was in April of 2024 when I was diagnosed, eight years to the day of when our mom was diagnosed, April 8th, to be exact.

And since...

that diagnosis, I had to go through several surgeries.

And so I've been more of a napper because of all the surgeries.

And I feel like I'm my best self after I have a nap.

Yeah, that's because your body is recuperating from everything that it's been through.

Yeah, for sure.

But a glimmer of brightness is that the cancer is gone.

No more surgeries.

And I haven't napped in like two weeks.

So I have more time throughout the entire day to enjoy life.

Oh, my God.

And I am definitely a morning person.

I am the boot camp chick who gets up and goes to boot camp with my husband at 6 a.m.

And I get all these memes from my friends sending them to me.

Like I'm the one calling them at 5:30 in the morning for them to go get up and they're like still sleeping, sound asleep.

So I am that girl.

Yes.

All right.

Here's another one.

What is your favorite karaoke song?

My go-to karaoke song, I have to say it in Chinese.

Karaoke

is You Make Me Feel Like a Natural woman from Aretha Franklin.

And my go-to karaoke song.

Let me get my song in my head.

We are family.

Hey, hey, hey, now.

I got all my sisters with me.

Hey, hey, hey.

All right, friends, we hope you enjoyed this just as much as we did.

If there is anything, and we mean anything, anything more that you'd love to hear or know about us that we didn't get to today, we would love to hear from you.

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