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During the early morning hours of December 30th, 2011, some Good Samaritans were driving down the Gainesville Raceway and noticed a brush fire just off the side of the road.

Smoke billowed in the dawn as they pulled their vehicle closer and called police.

When the cops arrived on the scene, they quickly realized that this wasn't just a brush fire.

The contents of the flames were clearly human.

Limbs, a torso, a bra,

and a face were visible amongst the black char and soot.

The woman was long gone, of course.

Just the center of her face.

Her nose, lips, and cheeks had escaped incineration.

A tiny glimpse of a human being was looking up at the cops, and the stale smell of gasoline hung in the air.

What a sickeningly sweet aroma that must have been.

After an autopsy on January 3rd, 2012, the police were able to use the body's fingerprints to identify the victim as Celia Huda, a 22-year-old cheerleader from the University of Florida in Gainesville.

They found out that Celia had been reported missing by her family at the start of the new year, after No one had heard from her.

Now her silver Nissan was also unaccounted for.

The members of her family were, of course, devastated as they talked with the local news.

People are still in shock.

People are still, you know, in pain.

And it's just like the sorrow that has, you know, come upon us is just,

we never expected this, never expected anything like this to happen.

This is...

This is just horrible what has happened.

Salia was a college senior, majoring in family, youth, and community sciences.

But her true passion was dance.

She had been dancing her whole life and now competed for the UF club team as a cheerleader.

You know, she was this big,

but just had, you know, the personality and the spirit of a giant.

And because she was so little, she was when we always threw up in the air.

Yeah.

Always.

It's like, okay, we need to go up in the air.

She's like, okay, I'm ready.

And because she did cheerleading, because she did gymnastics, she ran track.

She was born in Ghana and came to America as a young child with her family.

She was studious, creative, and accomplished.

It's tragic and it's hurtful and it's disrespectful the way that, you know, this has happened.

Nobody deserves this,

not anybody at all.

The last person to see Celia was her new boyfriend, Michael Carter.

He soon found himself sitting across the table from two detectives.

Mike, you're here in your own free will.

You're here, you know, basically as a witness.

Okay,

we're investigating the death of Celia.

Celia?

Celia, yeah.

And you'd just like to know, you know, start from the beginning, where'd you meet her?

And

we met online on Facebook or whatever.

Celia and Mike flirted back and forth over Messenger, but soon exchanged numbers.

But I got a number, so she didn't even know, so we started talking and texting.

How long ago did you meet?

Like, it was on a Sunday.

Because she had came back from her sister's graduation from Tampa or whatever.

And so she came back.

So we've seen each other and we're talking and whatever.

She came to the house or whatever.

We talked, chill.

Was it like a month ago, two months ago, one month ago?

It was last month or whatever.

One of the Sundays when she came back to Tampa.

Celia and Mike's relationship was fresh.

But they had been hanging out for the last few weeks pretty consistently.

Keep going out.

Were you pretty serious with one another or just dating everything?

Yeah, we was like talking at first and then we got serious or whatever.

I guess she started liking me a little bit more and she had told me so.

We had made an agreement that we were going to start like talking and dating and stuff like that.

So that's what happened.

And we were just talking here on out, whatever, seeing each other.

I stayed at her place a couple nights and she came to my place.

My woman allowed her to come or whatever like that.

And we've just been together like almost every day from then on out.

Alright.

So you talk to her every day just about?

Talk to her every day.

She calls me every day.

Okay.

When's the last time?

And I'm going to ask you some personal questions.

Yeah, it's just the way it is.

This is serious.

Okay.

When's the last time y'all slept together?

Probably that Wednesday,

that Tuesday night, where we stayed...

She didn't like hang with each other all that Wednesday at the afternoon.

And she brought me back by like six or seven.

So she said she was going to her parents house i guess and gets home so it was past wednesday

okay it was past wednesday in the afternoon yes sir at her house yes sir salia lived in the district apartments in gainesville which was

sort of

a student housing unit she had a modest place When detectives went to her house after they discovered her body, her dog had been trapped in the bathroom for days.

Dishes were piled up in the sink, but her laptops and other valuables were still in the home.

There was a note taped to the outside of the door that read,

Sally, call me when you get home.

Mike had spent the night at Sally's house earlier that week on a Tuesday.

Her body was found on the Friday.

Mike didn't try to call her again until the weekend, and when he did, a woman picked up that wasn't Celia.

I called it, and the girl answered the phone said she was asleep so I asked him, like, put on the phone or whatever.

It's important.

She's like, well, she said she'll call you tomorrow.

So I waited.

And then I ain't never get no call back or whatever.

So I called him straight to the answer.

So I'm like, I know she don't wait this long to charge her phone up or whatever.

So I kept on calling, trying, whatever.

Like, my phone must be dead or broken or whatever.

Mike thought it was weird that Salia had not called him back in days.

Still,

he kept trying her number and it would go to voicemail again and again.

That's when he logged into Facebook.

I didn't believe it at first and whatever.

And then I s I had called her her friend, her name Amitris or whatever.

Like she told me or whatever.

I like, for real?

You know, I told her I called her Mara and asked her what I was.

I didn't know what I was too hurt last night.

Do you know any of her friends?

Only friend.

I didn't know none of her friends besides Amitris or whatever.

Her Amita, like, got along.

They went to school together.

What is her name?

Amitia.

Amitris.

Amitris?

Smith.

Mike hadn't met any of the people Salia was close with, except one other friend.

Did she ever say anything about anybody else?

Like

an ex-boyfriend?

Yeah, she had an ex-boyfriend who she had an altercation with like a while back that had got her in trouble or whatever and all that so I guess they were trying to work something out.

He'll come by the house when I was there and knock on the window and the door or whatever, but she never opened.

I asked her say, why you answer?

She's like, I won't feel right like let him in or whatever and me and you go together and all that.

Bring another man to the house.

When was the last time that happened?

I think it happened that Tuesday or that Wednesday, yeah, Tuesday morning or whatever, because he's bringing movie back.

I guess that was just the way you're trying to get with her, like talk to her, her, but she didn't open the door.

You know his name.

The only message she had in the phone was AD.

Mike said that Celia's ex-boyfriend had knocked on her apartment window to bring back a DVD when the two of them were hanging out earlier in the week.

He had no clue what the guy's name was.

All that he knew was that Celia

had him listed in her cell phone as

AD.

She's told me a whole bunch of serious stuff that she never told her parents or nobody to or whatever about her personal life or whatever.

Like what?

Like how she got in trouble with him, about another girl, and all that, and went to jail or whatever.

Her mama didn't never know.

Until I guess she finally seen her dad came to the house and seen some papers or whatever when she went to jail and got in trouble or whatever.

Celia had confessed to Mike that A.D.

and her used to fight a lot.

And at one point the cops had been called.

Salia even admitted that she had been recently arrested for violating a restraining order that AD's new girlfriend had taken out on her.

It was all really messy and embarrassing.

Their relationship was a revolving door of chaos until recently when Celia had put a stop to it and started dating Mike.

She ever talked about how he treated her?

Yeah, like they argue and they fight or whatever when they were together like a while while back or whatever.

It wasn't recent though.

Anything about her getting getting hurt by him?

Did she ever mention anything like that?

No, he hit her before.

If she said, then,

like, one time, I think he got mad and threw a brick through a window.

She had to get a whole new window, whatever.

I guess because she didn't want to talk to him, whatever.

But she didn't mention any words, she got beat up by him or anything like that.

No, they said they got into her hand, he hit her, whatever, when they were together.

The cops would have to look into AD,

but first, they had to make sure that this wasn't a lie to get police off of Mike's back.

Still, Mike swore he hadn't seen Celia since Wednesday.

Wednesday night, in fact, when she dropped him off back at his house at 7.10 p.m.

How sure are you about the 7?

He said 7.10 p.m.

How come you know that?

We were like, I look at the time or whatever, I was trying to see because my mom's was in Chiefland, but I came home by myself or whatever.

So a lot of times at

a time where I was like, okay, well, she left at like 10, so something seven something so i want i'm gonna see what she's gonna get back like ten something because she wasn't getting came back so this is in how you you don't you wear a watch no sir this is her car

i had on my phone too what kind of purse was did she have it was either i think coochie or a coach purse i mean was it big small it was one of the big like big purses

Would you normally carry?

She carried everything with her?

Like that's where her wallet would be maybe?

Wallet, phone, everything.

A A sleep medication, I mean, a medication that she takes like at 11 o'clock or whatever.

She takes every night.

What does her phone look like on her cell phone?

She had, um, I think a Galaxy T-mobile phone with a pink cover on it.

Then Mike agreed to hand over his cell phone and give his fingerprints.

He said he had nothing to hide.

Do you know what happened to her?

You didn't hear anything on the news?

I didn't even see the new

Facebook.

They said rest in peace.

When they had told me, me girl Mitch told me she like somebody burnt her up in her car or whatever.

As Mike was talking with a detective, another team of officers was over at Celia's apartment collecting evidence.

Security guards confirmed that Celia's car had left the complex when Mike said it did.

and hadn't been seen again.

As they combed through her belongings and canvassed the complex, a man approached Celia's door.

He was tall, black, and muscular.

He walked right up to the group of officers outside and introduced himself.

His name was Antonio Drayton.

A.

D.

He claimed he was Celia's boyfriend and he wanted to know if they needed his help.

A.D.

would prove to be even more helpful than he seemed.

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22-year-old cheerleader and University senior Celia Huda had been found dead on the side of the road and set on fire.

Her car was gone, and no one had seen her in a week.

Her boyfriend, Mike Carter, had been the last one to see her alive, but as the police were searching her apartment for clues, another black male showed up and introduced himself as Antonio Drayton, claiming he was Celia's boyfriend and offering to help them with their investigation.

But Mike had warned the cops about a man who Celia had been dating, who he knew as A.D.,

and now A.D.

was here.

So Antonio, or A.D.,

voluntarily went to the police station.

They asked him to start at the top.

How did he first meet Celia?

I recall going into the mall and she was working in Empire, a clothing store.

I saw her there and she helped me get my clothes.

Like, I was trying to pick out an outfit.

That's the yog small?

Yeah, it was called Empire.

That's

a clothing store.

She helped me get an outfit.

I didn't answer her name or anything.

I saw her out in the club.

In the menu.

How long do you say it?

About two years ago.

Two years ago.

I saw her out at the club.

I see her a few times in the club and I used to just walk up to her and like miss Empire.

or whatever but it was a couple times I did that but it was about three times about three times i went out like three three times and the next time i wake up i have a um i check my myspace and she wrote me on myspace and she was looking for my page she saw my picture found out my name and we we exchanged numbers over to myspace and we began talking

just hanging out

on february 1st i want to say oh no Still it's a Super Bowl.

I asked her to be my girlfriend.

Antonio or Tony and Salia got serious after that Super Bowl party, and the two became an item.

They were big in the club scene.

Celia loved to dance, after all, and Tony was a notorious flirt who stationed himself at the bar and let women flock to him.

He was the kind of guy who'd have a few girls in his back pocket at all times.

You know, the type.

We've seen him before.

Anywho, Celia would often get jealous, confront him, and he'd gaslight her.

A pattern I'm sure many of us are familiar with.

Cheaters do what cheaters do.

Then they would get into a huge fight, of course, and eventually they'd always end up back together.

It's just how it goes.

It was a cycle of chaos and drama until a girl named Angela Owens came along.

Tony started seeing Angela behind Celia's back, but Celia kind of sensed sensed something was up.

I'm gonna let Tony explain and I'll fill in the gaps.

Like months, it was months, months back, months back,

and it was around last year.

June was Angela's birthday, June 21st, I think.

I was that same day, previous that day, me and Leah got into it.

We got into it,

and I asked for my

stuff back.

I was like, man, just give me all my stuff I bought for you,

that I bought for you.

She was like, no, no, at first, we was making so much commotion.

She was living in the States then.

I'll translate.

Basically, it was Angela's birthday, and Tony was trying to be a boyfriend to both her and Celia.

Celia found out, and she lost it, of course.

They got into a big fight at her place, and Tony left.

Angela's birthday was that same night.

I was going to a party at Stannis Nightclub.

I goes downtown in the apartment garage.

The same officer's always there.

They know me by name.

Mr.

Draydon, we got to talk to you.

I was in the restroom.

I was like, you need to go talk to me now.

He's like, yeah, man.

In the time that Tony had left Celia's and showed up at the club, Celia had called the police and reported that Tony hurt her during their fight.

The cops found him easily.

Yes, we just gonna do our job.

We know if you knew anything about it, you probably wouldn't even came out, but we knew where you were going to be.

And he was like, yeah, you got a

dispatch against you from being in the States against Celia Huda.

And it's looking pretty bad.

Some serious charges.

She said you strangled her.

You took some things that belonged to her.

And

it was all felon charges.

It was all felony charges.

Okay, so this happened in June.

Yeah.

You all had this argument.

You wanted your stuff back.

Yep.

And she gave me the stuff back.

She gave me the stuff back.

I left.

You left.

That's it.

I was trying to call him.

She wouldn't talk to him, say nothing to to me.

So then, what?

A few days?

It played.

No, the same day.

You were at the club.

Same day.

I went out to the club.

The officer seemed Mr.

Drake before I even went to before I got to the club.

I was headed there.

What downstairs?

He said he needed to talk to me.

He was like, Man, we knew you were going to be.

You know nothing about this.

Do you know a slit who?

I said, Yes.

I said, Yeah, that's my ex-girlfriend, right?

Girl, told me everything that was against me.

He was like, Well, cooperated.

I was locked up.

Tony was arrested on domestic violence charges and spent two months in jail.

He got out, and who did Tony run to?

Well,

Angela and Celia, of course.

This brings us to December 2011 when Celia went missing.

A few nights before her body was found, Tony and Celia had a date.

But he knew that Angela would also be at the club out looking for him.

And Celia.

Did y'all meet up at the club?

Oh, no.

They went.

I try to go to the obviously club with Celia.

I don't like to be in the same club because

I'm well known in the clubs.

So, and it's like different girls.

So, if she sees something, it's going to make her mad or she'll end up fighting or, you know, and it's vice versa.

So, I try to, she'll want me to be in the same club, but I try to not go.

I try not to go to the same club.

So, Tony brought Celia to another club to avoid Angela.

and his other little friends.

But it didn't work.

Celia and Angela met face face to face and they ended up talking because of this injunction thing they didn't have an understanding between each other and it was like well Angela told her well I had sex Tony two days ago and where'd you see Tony well Tony just left my house two hours ago and he gave me money they

basically

got caught up in all my lives I was telling between the two of them and all the other girls

When they talked she was about to fight some girls and they told me and Celia called I like well Celia where are you?

She called me.

No, I called her first.

She didn't answer, and I called her back.

And she was like, It's crazy.

I'm headed home.

I'm headed home.

I messed up.

Me and Sam got into it, and I'm going home.

So I'm like, okay, she's home.

She's messed up.

I know she's gonna go home.

Messed up, what's that mean?

She's just intoxicating.

I mean, she's

did she drink a bunch?

Yeah, Celia drank a lot.

That was the last he heard from Celia that night.

He went home, slept, and then tried to reach her the next day, but she was gone.

She wasn't answering the phone.

So

I got um,

I got Quan.

I went over there.

I went over there

and she wouldn't answer.

She wouldn't answer the door.

She went home.

She wouldn't answer the door.

Antonio said that he hadn't seen Salia in days.

You wanting to give us a DNA swab, you know, just a swab of your mouth.

A swab of my mouth?

Yeah, we just take a swab and it's a DNA sample.

Sample.

DNA sample.

You You want to do that?

Well, then, is that

I can do that, but what am I.

Well,

you want to prove it.

You're not involved in this anyway.

No, I'm not involved in this.

So if you're not involved in this, then you have to.

I get them.

Yeah, I get them swab.

It's exclusionary.

Yeah.

Exclusionary at all.

Separate.

It's like we take fingerprints of people.

They're exclusionary prints.

Yeah, my prints are already in the system, so.

Well, I know that, but we'll do that anyway.

It's exclusionary.

That's basically all it is.

You willing to do that?

Yeah, I'll do it.

Now, police had to find Angela and get her side of the story.

The words of Mike Carter still hung at the forefront of their investigation.

I called it, and the girl answered the phone said she was asleep, so I asked her, like, you put on the phone or whatever.

It's important.

She's like, well, she said she'll call you tomorrow, so I waited.

And then I ain't never get no call back or whatever.

So I called her and went straight to the answer machine.

So they had to find the woman who answered Celia's cell phone after she'd gone missing.

First, they'd start with Angela Owens.

It would be easy to find her.

She was the only one who had given Tony a ride to the police station.

Angela explained that tensions had been so high between herself, Tony, and Celia that she'd taken out a restraining order against Celia.

She was afraid of her because Tony had made it seem like Celia was after her.

But that night at the club, Celia was at the bar with her friends when Angela approached, and Salia reached out and grabbed her arm, asking to talk.

We went to the bathroom and talked and in the bathroom she was just saying, like, she was kind of asking questions, like, when did me and Antonio make it official that we were together?

And I told her May 16th.

And

she had asked me,

she was just mainly like saying that like he

like even if she wanted to be with him, she knew that she couldn't because he didn't make her happy.

And she felt like the only reason why she was still holding on is because

she felt like she needed him to get the injunction dropped because me and her never talked.

She apologized about the whole situation as to like how she wanted to fight me.

That's the whole reason why we had the injunction.

So she apologized about that.

And

I just, I basically was just like, if me and her could have talked from the beginning, then I would have never put a restraining word out against her.

But I guess just the lack of communication and whatever he was telling her versus whatever he was telling me while they talked in the bathroom the two women realized how tony had been playing them both there was no need for any of this craziness how did that end the last thing ended with me and her is i was just like well i'm telling you now that i'm done like i don't have

you can have him whatever you guys have going on and she was just like i don't even want to be with him she's just like i just want to get this injunction dropped so that i can graduate and move on with my life So there was no argument

between you guys, no physical.

No argument, no confrontation.

And that was the first time we had ever even had a conversation.

In person?

In person.

Angela agreed to lift the restraining order, and the two parted ways back into the nightclub.

A few days passed, and even though Angela told Celia that she was done with Tony, she kept seeing him.

He lured her back in and she fell for his charms.

On Friday evening, she got off work and went over to Tony's house to meet up.

That day,

it seems he was strange because

when I got over there, he was sitting on the couch.

And I'm like, what's up?

And

he's just like, just thinking, got a lot of stuff on my mind, but he always says that.

So I'm like, okay, whatever.

And then

Cass kept calling him.

I don't know if you guys know who that is.

Cass Cass is short for Cassandra Kimbrough, a 42-year-old mother of six who was also in Tony's back pocket.

Did you ever met Cass before?

Yeah.

She's like this 40-year-old lady who's like, I don't know.

I really don't know.

She's been around him ever since I've known him.

She like, I guess, just does a lot of stuff for him.

Are they like family or something?

No, not.

She's not his family.

But she just like.

I mean, did they used to date?

now?

They're just friends or I mean

relationships

They never he said they never dated he she was his boss at Dollar General when he used to work there in the warehouse and I guess something transpired between them.

I don't know

but ever since I've known him she's always been like

around kind of like

she's been at his place has she ever been there when you got there?

I mean she's been like, yeah, she's been there.

Like, his apartment is in her name.

Like, she's just weird.

Unbeknownst to Angela, Cassandra and Tony had dated back when she was his boss at the Dollar General.

Are you surprised by his career ambitions?

I'm not.

Yeah, so the two were dating.

But Angela didn't know that.

Salia didn't know that.

And Tony made sure to cover his tracks by painting Cassandra as some sort of crazy middle-aged nut.

What do you think the reason behind that is?

I think I see it as he has a lot of dirt on her and so he uses that to get stuff from her.

So he's blackmailing her.

Yeah, that's what I see it as.

What dirt does he have on her?

I don't know.

He just always, he'll never tell me, but he'll just always be like, there's so much stuff that I have on that lady.

That's why she just does what she does because she's scared.

Hmm.

Because he'll call her and be like, oh, can you bring me something to eat?

I'm hungry.

And it'll be like four o'clock in the morning.

And she jumps up and does it.

Yeah.

Does he ever turn out when you're at the house?

Yeah.

Originally, she'll show up when you're there.

Yeah.

According to Angela, Cassandra was like Tony's personal slave, bringing him snacks at 4 a.m.

when he asked.

I don't care who it is.

No one should be jumping out of bed to bring a man in his 20s snacks at that hour.

Let me walk that back because I like snacks.

What I'm trying to say is, there's a balance, you know?

So you said Cass kept calling or texting?

Calling.

Calling Tony.

And

what would, you know, why she kept calling?

I don't know.

I

had asked him, I'm like, what are you guys doing?

And because on the phone, he kept saying stuff like,

I need like bleach.

rags

stuff like that that's what he was telling her on the phone uh-huh

And then I don't know what she was saying.

And then he was just like, get off the phone.

And I'm like, what are you guys doing?

Are you cleaning?

And so then we just got back.

Like, he never really said.

He just, we never said what the bleach and the rags were for.

No.

This is the whole time it's ticked, and you guys are where?

I'm at his house.

He's on the phone.

This is Friday night.

This is Friday night.

This is after I leave the mall and I've come to his house.

But when the police asked Cassandra about the bleach in the rags, she she started talking about laundry.

Like, sometimes he'll call me and say, you know, I got a load of clothes that he wanted me to do for him.

Did you do them at your house?

Sometimes.

So you just go pick them up at him?

Yeah, I'll come take a bring a basket and it'll take me a couple days.

I don't.

I take my time.

No, I take my time.

I might have had some of his towels and stuff that he probably, because if he don't have them, he's all, you know, I need my, you know, some rags or whatever.

so

oh for like rack when you say when you say rags like

so face rags oh wash rags yeah yeah sorry about the audio on that clip we do have some incredible equipment and very talented engineers here but uh it doesn't really work like you see it in the movies it's not like csi miami

zoom in doesn't really work that way just so you know anyway back to the story when cassandra showed up at the police station she was wearing a black Hillary Clinton-style pantsuit.

Stylish.

Her short hair was neatly combed to the side, showing off her gold hoop earrings.

She was naturally friendly, yet meek.

But there was something a little...

off

about her.

Cassandra Kimbrough was originally from New York.

Nine years ago, She was working for FedEx when they transferred her down to Florida, and after six months, she and her husband split up.

Now she had two part-time jobs, her six kids, she took care of her aging mother, and apparently she was bending over backwards to do everything and anything for Tony.

Well, we just want more detail about really that week, you know, your relationship with Antonio and

also you knew the victim, is that right?

Yeah, I knew her.

Okay, did you?

I wasn't familiar with her, but I knew her.

Okay.

When was the last time you talked with

I want to say she had, because she was planning a Christmas party, and she had invited me to it, and she had asked me that night if I wanted to come.

I told her, No, you guys just have fun.

I didn't want to.

Oh, the night she had the Christmas party?

Yeah, I think it was the night she had the Christmas party.

She had asked me if I was coming.

I told her, No, I wasn't coming.

We didn't talk on a regular basis, but we weren't enemies.

I see, I would see her on the bus, I would say hello to her, or she would, if she saw me, she would say hello to me.

So

Animasi for what?

I don't understand.

With the whole Tony

stuff, she didn't see me.

I don't know.

When she first, like two years ago, when she first started seeing him,

she didn't really know about me.

Nobody in Tony's life knew about Cassandra.

Angela thought she was some weird ex-boss Tony was blackmailing for rent and food.

Salia had her suspicions that Tony and Cassandra had slept together, but the truth was that Tony and Cassandra were in a sexual exchange.

They had been sleeping together for years.

She was basically his sugar mama, and she had been with Tony longer than any of the other girls.

You kind of look over him.

You look after him a little bit.

I mean, you pay for his apartment.

You know, it's in your name.

I mean, you look after him a little bit.

I do, if I can.

I mean, you do.

I mean, I'm not saying that's not a bad thing.

I'm just saying you're trying to help him out.

A little.

I don't help him out as much as he may see me.

He doesn't have a roommate, does he?

No.

So he lives there by himself?

Yes.

Okay.

Well, I mean, he did say you pay for his apartment.

I helped him pay for it.

Cassandra knew that Tony was embarrassed about their relationship and that he kept her a secret, which he said she was fine with.

After all, her oldest son was Tony's age.

What was it that he had over?

What was the son that he had over me?

He had nothing over me.

He would say that to people because they, you know, why are you with he,

to be honest, the biggest issue he had was my age.

I think if I was 20 something, we probably would have been together.

But his issue was, you know, because they, if like he meet, why you like that old lady and why you?

I would tell him, you know, you could just tell him you know me be cool you could just say that i mean but i've gotten over it how old are you i'm 42 42 yeah

was she really cool with all this let's just take a step back here cassandra had been sleeping with tony for years longer than angela salia or any of the other club girls tony was with he also had a baby with another girl just fyi

who he still had sex with on a regular basis.

Cassandra worked non-stop to provide for everyone in her life, including Tony, a grown fucking man.

She was a doormat, basically.

And there's no way in hell that she didn't feel stepped on every time she did something for Tony, only to find out he'd spent the night with Celia.

Still, she insisted she was fine with all of this.

Celia came on board at why y'all were dating, or seeing each other or whatever.

Yeah, he got serious with her while we were.

How'd you feel about that?

I just backed off.

You know, it didn't make me no difference.

Well, you don't seem like the jealous type.

No, I'm not.

You don't seem like it to me, but I don't know.

I mean, under different circumstances.

No, I've been through two horrible relationships, so I was just.

You're not really looking to get something serious, are you?

No, not with Tony.

Even Tony said she was fine with all this.

See, Cass

knows everything that goes on, and she plays like the friendly part, or whatever.

I do my thing, she don't say nothing.

She knows Liz.

Well, I'm seeing Lynn, I'm seeing Angela, I'm seeing such and such.

Cass don't say nothing.

It's like Cass can come to the house and

nobody knows.

She's just a friend of me.

That's all they see.

She won't say nothing to none of them.

Cassandra may have been fine with being Tony's side chick, but Celia certainly wasn't.

Angela knew this well, which was why she was scared of Celia.

When Celia cried and begged Tony to be faithful, Cassandra situated herself in the wings as the calm, cool, older woman who Tony could share everything with.

She would never get jealous.

as he whined about the hysterical girls he was sleeping with.

There's really something something to be said about traditional values because when you find yourself in a situation like this, you know things are gonna go fucked up in some way.

You just know it.

Especially if you're hearing my voice retell your story.

He just couldn't take her crying to him.

He liked, you know, he'd sit and listen to it and

then he'd be like, all she did was cry, all she did was cry.

So.

What was their issue?

Do you know their issue?

Same as everybody.

Is what?

Him

not being

monogamous, I guess it is.

Not being faithful to every state.

Yeah.

And did you ever know him?

Did he ever say anything about hurting her in any way?

No.

Still, she swore she had nothing to do with Salia's murder.

And we need you to be completely truthful with us.

Okay.

Do you know who killed Selena?

No.

Honestly, I don't.

I wish I did.

Did you kill Selena?

No.

No way.

I have no.

I did not kill that girl.

Do you have any knowledge of who killed Selena?

No.

No, I don't.

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22-year-old celia huda had been murdered and left burning like trash on the side of the gainsville raceway her ex-boyfriend tony drayton had volunteered to help the police and ended up revealing that he had three main women he was was seeing: Celia, Angela, and Cassandra, and they were all jealous of one another.

The cops also knew that a woman had answered Celia's cell phone after she went missing, but they still had no clue who that was.

Then they found Celia's silver Nissan abandoned in an apartment complex just down the road from Tony's apartment.

Her purse was inside, and nothing had been removed.

Her money, her apartment keys, her cell phone, they were all still in there.

But the car reeked of gasoline.

The smell was so intense, in fact, that when the officers opened the trunk, they expected to find a full can of gasoline, but there was none.

All they found was a comforter that matched the pattern of a burned piece of cloth found on Celia's corpse.

It was clear Celia had been murdered, then the killer had used her car to get gasoline gasoline and burn her body.

The police subpoenaed security footage from all the nearby gas stations and soon found the last known footage of Celia's Nissan.

At the kangaroo gas station during the early morning hours on the night that Celia was killed, video showed a woman exiting the vehicle with her hood up.

She filled a can with two dollars worth of gasoline, then slipped back into the car.

The woman had her hood pulled up over her face, but her long hair was sticking out.

Angela had long hair.

Cassandra did not.

When they brought Angela back in, they had even more ammo.

A tissue had been found at the crime scene with her DNA on it.

The other thing is we sent there was a napkin, sound of paper towel thing found at the scene where Celia's body was.

That's the side of the road, and that's it in the bigger picture, and this is where her body was.

We sent that off to have testing done from FDLE, and Tony's DNA came back on it, but yours did too.

But do you know how

your DNA?

Oh, I don't know.

I have no idea.

Have you ever, you said you never were in her car?

No.

Tony's DNA was on the tissue along with Angela's, and things were not looking good for her.

Because what we had was called a mixture.

We had a mixture of

his and yours, but they were able to separate it out to identify the person.

I mean, unless he had something in his pocket that fell out, like you said, but other than that,

did you guys use condoms when you had sex?

Or

so, I mean, he would, like, clean up with something afterwards, or what, or nothing?

Yeah, okay.

Is that possible?

I mean,

that we had sex when this happened?

No, we're like, no, I'm saying, is it possible that we don't think like you laid down here and had sex like at the crime scene or anything like that?

No, I'm just saying, like, obviously, he had this on him somehow.

So, if there's a mixture of your DNA and his, we're just trying to figure out how that came about.

Oh, I mean, it could be from that.

That you all had sex, and then, you know, he just basically cleaned up with that a little bit himself, and your DNA would be on there too.

It doesn't take much.

That could be an option.

Then the cops brought up the confrontation with Celia.

Angela said that everything went fine and that she had told Tony she was done with him.

That's when she revealed how angry he got.

I text him after I got in the car, and I was like, I spoke with Celia and I'm done with you.

You know, all I want from your house is my glasses.

And he was like, okay.

And then the next day I was like, just to let you know, because it was the day after Christmas, the mall closes at 7:30.

So

I'll get my glasses from your house when I get off.

And he's like, oh, I'll have Cass bring them to you.

You know, I don't want you to think I'm trying to keep.

Like, he was kind of seemed angry at the time.

And I was like, okay, I didn't argue with him or anything.

Right.

Argue back with him.

And then Cass never showed up.

So I text Cass and I was like, I don't know if Tony told you, but I guess you're supposed to be giving me my glasses.

And she's like, well, I don't know anything about it, but I'll call him.

So I guess she did.

And then he texted me an hour before the mall closed and was like, can you come over?

I just want to talk.

And then you can get your glasses.

And I was like, I'll come by, but I'm not coming inside.

I went over there.

He came out.

We sat in the car for like two hours.

He talked, begged, cried, whatever.

I still said, no, I'm not going to take you back.

And he gave me my glasses and I went.

Angela agreed to give the police her cell phone for data collection.

And as they were doing that, the results from Tony, Celia, and Cassandra's phones came in.

It turned out that they were all pinging off the same tower at 2:27 a.m.

on the night Celia was murdered.

How could that be?

Were they all together?

Cassandra had told police that she worked a triple shift that evening, but there was a small sliver of time between her work hours that she claimed she was at Tony's apartment, and they just hung out.

But when they talked to Tony's family, his brother admitted that Tony had showed up late that night, looking for money and acting strange.

The cops knew that Cassandra and Tony were not snuggling on the couch that evening.

Either both of them or Cassandra was driving Celia's car around with her dead body inside.

So they brought Tony and Cassandra back in

and this time they were both under arrest.

You realize how serious this is?

I understand how serious this is.

You really understand how serious this is?

Yes.

this is

someone dying, a murder case.

I understand how serious it is, but I had nothing to do with her murder.

And you had your phone with you the whole time?

Yeah, I guess.

I think I had it with me.

It was up.

I usually just, like I said, I usually either leave it in the car or I bring it and just sit on the dresser in the house.

We've been working on this for

33 days?

33 days.

Okay?

And to get somebody in handcuffs to get them arrested is that means you have to have evidence.

We have evidence.

Okay, we have evidence that you didn't stay in his apartment the whole night.

We have you're in the car, so that is car.

We have evidence that you bought gas up in Stark,

wearing that blue jacket that's on the search warrant.

We have more than just that shot of just the back shot of you.

Okay?

Honestly, I don't think you killed Selena who.

Okay?

Okay.

But I believe Antonio told you what happened.

And maybe it was an accident.

I don't know what it was.

Maybe he never intended her to die.

That's fine.

And he freaked out and called you.

And then you came over, and then, like, what you do for Antonio is everything.

I don't do everything.

Yeah, but we know.

I don't do everything.

You're there for Antonio.

You're there for Antonio, regardless of what you do and what you don't do.

You're there for Antonio.

And he asked you,

basically, he put you in a really bad jam, in my opinion, of how it went down.

I could be wrong, but I'm based on our conversations, you know, and correct me if I'm wrong,

but I think he puts you in a really bad spot.

And then you helped him.

Cassandra sat tensely as the officers leaned in and pressed harder.

They were unrelenting.

Cassandra denied everything despite the cold, hard evidence right in front of her face.

She wouldn't give it up for her precious Tony.

Okay, then we can

continue this conversation.

I'm not sure y'all got him.

What?

Tony is down there?

Yeah, I mean, if I don't say nothing, we can prove that he's in the hall.

I bet you might paycheck on it.

Do you want us to walk him down here and we'll let you see him in Hayden?

I don't want to see him.

Okay.

Can you peek through the window?

We can peek.

Maybe.

Do you want to see him in Haineshouse?

I don't want to see him.

I know y'all got him.

Okay.

And he's not going anywhere.

Like he just said, his bond is a million dollars.

The evidence against Tony was overwhelming.

His DNA was found at the crime scene in Salia's car, on her cell phone, and his family had revealed that he'd come home asking for money and to borrow a gas can.

Yikes.

Another friend told the police that they overheard Tony admitting to the murder at breakfast.

I wonder if he was having one of those delicious Denny's moons over my hammy.

Those are quite tasty.

Anyway, the tips were flying in.

You need me to throw more out here for you?

We know you left with Tony.

We know you went up there.

We know you went to the convenience store.

We know you bought the gas for $2.

We know you were in the same car.

We know you answered the telephone when Selena's new boyfriend called and said she's asleep.

And then he said,

he said,

she'll call you tomorrow.

Cassandra was the strange woman on Celia's phone.

She was the one who had paid for the gas in a wig with her hood up.

It was all crashing down on her.

She hung her head in her hands and started to cry.

I don't hate him.

I do love him, but he's not,

he's a horrible person.

I told him a hundred times.

I just told him to be right, do right by her, man.

That's all he had to do.

Just do right by her.

That's all I ever did was tell him to be right with Celine because she was a nice girl.

She was crazy, but I tried to tell her about him.

She got mad at me, so I left it alone.

That's why I just leave, I just started leaving all this stuff alone.

I tried to be on the girls.

This is the kind of man he is.

And everybody gets mad at me for his castness.

And because he calls me, y'all want to be in my position.

I'm not in a position for somebody to want to be in.

It's not just not a great place to be.

Cassandra said that Tony killed Celia.

She didn't know how or why.

She didn't ask questions.

She was just trying to get out of his apartment.

But she knew he wouldn't let her leave.

Did he threaten you?

You know, if you don't, did he say something?

I knew if I refused,

he would have.

If I said no, I'm not.

He did.

I mean, I didn't try to fight with him.

Sure.

Because if I did, I knew what would have happened.

I tried to stay calm to keep him calm so he don't attack me.

Right.

I should have.

I should have said something.

I should have been more.

Well, you're looking out for yourself.

You didn't.

You were scared.

You didn't know what to do.

Tony used his power to get Cassandra to help him dispose of Celia's body, the same way he used his power over her to get snacks at 4 a.m.

or...

free rent.

She just could not say no to him.

Is this really power he had over her?

Or is this a decision she made herself?

Who drove the car?

You drove the car.

Did you see Celia at that point?

You don't know if she was in the back seat or in the car, too.

I didn't want to see her.

He tried to show you her?

I said, I don't want to see it.

Where did he sit?

In the passenger seat.

Okay, so you drove the car and he sat in the passenger seat.

Should I speak to a woman?

Because I'm incriminating myself on her.

I mean, I want to be a witness, but it's too little.

I don't think at this point you're hurting yourself by telling us.

Too late, Cassandra.

It's a little too late to ask for a lawyer.

I mean, you kind of have to feel sorry for her a little bit.

No?

Cassandra said that Tony made her drive Celia's car to run the errands to finish the job.

She said she was afraid that Tony would hurt her if she didn't go along with what he wanted.

So, like a dutiful side girlfriend, she got the gas and helped him dump Celia's body, as you would.

We was driving and trying to find an area that, you know, was kind of secluded.

And we saw no other cars coming.

But we pulled over one time that we saw a car coming, so.

We kept driving.

And when we got there I said let's just throw it over of the bushes.

You know, just let it go over the bushes

You made me grab the can

It's the problem I'm scared

Because you put the gasoline on

We know you're scared and I can't I mean

yeah, but that's the point he said by saying that because I did that.

All I wanted, I said, just throw it over.

You know what I'm talking about?

We were just going to throw it over.

You're going to throw gasoline over.

That's what he knows.

He made me do the gasoline.

That's what he kept over.

That's what he kept holding over me.

You can't say nothing because

you're the one that did this and you're the one that did that.

Y'all gonna look at me and I did it too, but I because you were scared i just wanted to come home that's why i said just throw my body up i figured the bushes would be big enough no one would find it just he was trying to make you equally guilty that way

protects him because that's all he cares about is himself it was true all tony cared about was himself that's pretty obvious but we can't blame it all on tony can we he was a true sociopathic narcissist the word narcissist is thrown around all the time these days, especially by middle-aged women whose relationships have fallen apart.

It gets used again and again and again and overused and loses its true meaning.

There are actual real narcissists out there who care about nothing other than their own comfort, their own pleasure, their own gain at the expense of everyone else's.

Make no mistake about that.

The word gets thrown around to describe any kind of douchebag that does any kind of thing we don't like.

But Tony Drayton truly is a narcissist who used every woman he ever met.

Only the most selfish animal could commit a crime like this and brazenly walk towards the police, offering his assistance and solving the very crime that he committed.

The arrogance,

the

husband, you know,

the gall of this pile of shit.

So he had a lighter or matches?

I think a lighter.

A lighter?

I don't see.

Did he light something else?

Did you see him do this when he lit it?

I was in the car.

You were in the car?

So you lit the fire.

And what did he say?

He didn't say anything.

He was burned.

That was it.

Cassandra gave it all up.

But she still didn't know how Tony killed Celia.

Alright, well, I just said we'll have a deputy deputy who transports you.

You will let him see it.

The deputy?

No, Antonio is down the hall.

He can't see you.

He can't see you.

We're not going to let him see you.

We're not going to go ahead and transport you.

And he won't see you leave.

He's in a whole nother room.

Okay.

Come on.

Whether he finds out tonight or wherever this ends up, trial or whatever.

I mean, I don't know.

Like I said, I just don't want him to know nothing

of what was said.

What I said.

I don't want nobody coming to meet to my family.

Cassandra was terrified of Tony and and didn't want him to know that she had squealed.

You have to wonder, was she afraid because she thought Tony would do something to her family?

Or was she scared because she didn't want to disappoint him?

She's very hard to read.

Then, they let Cassandra call her mother before they took her to jail.

She didn't want her aging mom to find out about this on the six o'clock news, after all.

I know, ma, I know, I know.

Ma, I know.

I know.

That's why I wanted to call you.

I wanted to tell you before you saw anything.

I just was.

I don't know.

I know, Ma.

I'm sorry, Ma.

What can I do?

I'm sorry.

I know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

We kept threatening the kids and threatening.

Everybody just wanted to keep everybody safe.

I figured everybody said nothing.

Everybody.

I was scared.

He was sitting here walking around.

Before they could get him, she could have done something.

I'm sorry.

I don't know.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Mom.

Then the police had to deal with Tony.

If anyone should have asked for a lawyer, it was this guy.

Tony, listen to me.

What I'm telling you.

Because what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, man, If you have something to tell me,

you're saying you got enough evidence.

You got enough evidence saying this, this shit here.

I can't even,

it don't make any sense because I know him do this.

Look, we wouldn't have come picked you up today if we didn't have.

No matter what degrees.

No matter what degrees.

You know what degrees is.

No matter if you intentionally hurt somebody, or you don't intentionally, it's just it just happened or it's accidental.

That all plays a part in how things come out.

Tony denied everything.

He babbled on and tried to twist and turn his stories.

Maybe his smooch talking and mind tricks worked on the girls at the club that he manipulated, but detectives are slightly smarter than that.

Slightly.

They'd seen a million boneheads like Tony, and they weren't going to give up.

Tony, this is your life, man.

This is your life.

This is your life.

This ain't nobody's life but yours right now, Okay?

This is yours.

This is your chance.

I'm trying to give that to you, man.

I'm trying.

You talk me through this, okay?

Talk me through it.

Cassin forgot to abide.

Cassin forgot to invite.

We're at.

At whose apartment?

Elaine's apartment?

Okay.

Please, bring me the world's tiniest violin for old Tony Boy.

Tony had a big, dramatic story about how Cassandra went to Salia's apartment, unbeknownst to him, and attacked Salia, killing her with a fire extinguisher, of all things.

Then she called Tony for help.

But that didn't make any sense because, you know, cops aren't as dumb as he is.

Of course, you can say I'm saying what Kaz said to me.

That's what I'm saying.

What Kaz said to me.

But I'm saying you told Kaz to go

over around there.

To go over there, yeah, to go over there.

Yeah, when she got out, you say she got out working at nine or something, whatever.

Somewhere.

To go over or whatever.

Right, right.

But how?

How would she get Celestia's keys?

How would she get her car keys?

She don't have sets of Celia's car keys.

How would she drive?

She'd have to go in the apartment and get the car keys to drive it over to your house with the body and the truck.

And I'm just trying to make some sense.

What I'm saying is, it can be bogus.

What I'm saying, it can be bogus.

But what I'm saying is, though, you saying I did this at my house.

Well, I'm no deal with this shit ain't going on at my house.

Tony continued to argue, manipulate, and twist his way around the truth.

He leaned back in his chair and threw up his arms.

He did his usual drama routine, and when that didn't work, he softened up and tried to play the victim.

He said that Cassandra killed killed Celia and she forced him to help her clean up the mess.

He panicked and went along because, you know, he's just a scared little boy.

I helped him take the body out,

but I made sure I didn't light that match.

Cause that gas and lit the match.

Caz poured the gas.

I made sure she did it.

I didn't, I made sure she did it.

I wasn't, I wasn't going to touch it.

So she

poured the gas and she lit the

body.

She lit the body up.

But the fire extinguisher story didn't make sense because,

well,

forensics.

Tony was a liar, but Salia's corpse would tell the truth.

Even

with everything said and done, you know, I know the body is burned and things like that, okay?

You can still see whether or not there's any kind of marks or anything.

And

there's no gouges or nothing on the top of her head, so I don't get how.

You have to have some kind of

fire story without waiting.

He has money.

Right?

You know what I'm saying?

You can knock yourself out with a fire stage.

And you're right, I get that, but I can't understand how there ain't going to be no marks at all.

You see what I'm saying?

Tony stuck to his lies.

Unfortunately, Salia's body had been burned so badly that it was hard for the medical examiners to determine the actual cause of death.

But based on Tony's track record of putting hands on his girlfriends when he got overly emotional, and the fact that there were no signs of blood force trauma, it was assumed that he strangled her to death.

This is it, man.

I can't go to bat for you no more.

I need you to.

I understand.

I understand my husband.

I just need you to be honest, buddy.

I got some.

They fall.

And I've no need for that penny.

And I've no need to be dead.

They fought.

They fought.

Who hit her in the head?

I don't even know what he did.

Are you sure she got hit in the head with a fire extinguisher?

Tony was taken to jail where he continued to call Angela because she was the only one who would answer.

He was charged with first-degree murder.

But as time went on, Tony had a change of heart, or maybe just some good legal advice from his public defender.

By the way, in May of 2012, right before Celia's birthday, Tony Drayton, TD,

pleaded guilty to second-degree murder.

He would avoid a trial and the judge sentenced him to 45 years in prison.

Cassandra Kimbrough pleaded guilty to accessory after the fact and received two years in prison.

A slap on the wrist, if you ask me.

Tony Drayton was your textbook narcissist who thought that he ran the world.

That's probably why he kept his world so small, so he'd always be the big fish in the little pond of his Gainesville college club scene.

Tony thought that the women in his life were inferior to him, especially Cassandra, who he used and used and abused

for years just because she was weak and let him.

He wanted these girls to fight over him, to actually scratch and claw at each other.

over his affection.

He liked the fact that Angela took a restraining order out out on Celia.

But when the girls settled their differences and Angela told Tony she wanted nothing more to do with him, that's when Celia lost her life.

Was that his motive?

Did the fight with Celia start because Tony was furious that she had ruined his fling with Angela?

Tony was a serial cheater who relished in the fact that he could jump from one girl to the next, doling out lies like candy to make sure he he had a constant stream of admiration, attention, and sex coming his way.

In fact, dishing out lie after lie to the police was just as easy, and he did it with such prowess that had his crimes not been so sloppy, the cops may have just believed him.

Tony was willing to go to any measure to maintain his hedonistic and shallow life.

Celia Huda just happened to be the tiny yet mighty cheerleader who tried to stand up to this creep when he finally took it too far.

You know, sometimes it's the little,

tiny, seemingly inconsequential decisions

that make all the difference.

So if you hear my voice talking to you right now, and you find yourself in a similar situation to any of these women, maybe

let go of that ego just a little bit.

You're not all that smart.

None of us are.

And truly give it some real hard, deep thought.

Think real hard about what you may be unintentionally setting into motion.

Just a thought.

Stay safe.

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