Ep 183. Emma Sidi - Junior Taskmaster S1 Ep.2

Hello, and welcome to the Taskmaster Podcast, the Junior Taskmaster Podcast.

Today, we will be talking about Junior Taskmaster episode two.

Episode one was an absolute belter, and there's another one to follow it up with.

Quite exciting, this, isn't it?

Having a fresh lineup every week, a new heat every single week.

And we will be seeing the returning top two from every episode later on in the semifinals.

But for now, it's quite fun getting to know new contestants and seeing how wildly differently they approach all of these fantastic tasks.

So today we'll be talking to the brilliant Emma Siddy, Taskmaster contestant, fabulous comedian, and also good friends with the junior taskmaster, Rose Matafeo.

So we have the inside track here.

Looking forward to talking to Emma.

I think we should just get on with it.

Go and watch the episode if you haven't seen it.

Channel4.com to catch up.

But this is Junior Taskmaster episode two, as discussed by Emma Siddy.

Welcome back, Emma Siddy, to the Taskmaster podcast.

Thank you so much for having me.

How are you doing?

Very, very well.

It's a quick turnaround getting you back on the podcast because we thought, who better to talk about Taskmaster Juniors than Emma Siddy?

Of course, very good friends with the Junior Taskmaster herself, Rose Matafeo.

Yes, that is true, actually.

I can't deny that.

It would be rude to deny that, actually.

Yeah, I mean, you have the inside track with the junior taskmaster, which means I get to ask the question: how did you feel?

And what was your immediate reaction when Rose was first given the job as the junior taskmaster?

Ooh.

Oh, what was my reaction?

I think my reaction was, oh, this sounds so

goody two-shoes.

It was, wow, that's fantastic.

You will be amazing.

So, yeah, I wish I could say something a little bit more edgy than that.

But honestly, I was just like, girl, of all the people, this is freaking fantastic.

Also, what is Junior Taskmaster?

I think I didn't know that was in the pipeline.

So I asked a

very polite question about what the hell it was.

And then when I found out what it was, I was like, there is no better person.

Mainly because because Rose is both super nice well super funny super nice and also strict like she's got an energy in her that is very you know no bullshit and surely that's the energy you need for this yeah I mean she's uh she likes rules yeah oh you know that yeah because you're big escape room people aren't you yes she enjoys she enjoys rules very much but she's also fun she's you know she manages to walk that line she does

with the kids I agree I think I couldn't think of many better people to do this job.

And likewise, with Mike Wozniak being the Taskmaster's assistant,

he's perfect.

Yeah,

he's so perfect for it as well.

And I think he's one of the only comedians I know who would not have to change their persona and the way they are

compared to how they would do normal Taskmaster, as we've seen Mike do.

you know,

being the Taskmaster's assistant for kids, because there's just something about him that kids kids find incredibly intriguing, I think.

Yeah, definitely.

And I think Mike also highlights something very important about kids, which is that they're actually quite clever.

You know, the worst kind of people with kids are people who talk down to kids.

Yeah.

And especially nine-year-olds, 10-year-olds, 11-year-olds, they know what's going on.

You know, arguably too much.

It's a problem.

So Mike has that amazing thing of, I will speak on my Mike Wozniak level to you.

Yeah.

And they they will more than get it.

They will more than get it.

And there's something about Mike that invites, I'd say, I mean, from the feel of the last two episodes, 80% of children want to be horrible to Mike.

Yeah, he does attract that.

Is it the moustache?

I think it might be the moustache.

Just the general, he's just like an understated but very silly man.

And I think they feel like they can be like, you're a weirdo, mate.

I'm not going to do what you tell me.

Also, do kids still watch Thunderbirds?

Is there a slight Thunderbirds connection there?

And I say that with light and love and I would say it to Mike's face.

Yeah, he's got a

puppet vibe going on.

Like a very attractive, sorted out, good-looking, well-moving puppet.

Yeah, yeah, he's definitely one of the Tracy's, isn't he?

He, yeah, he is a bit like a puppet, actually.

And in answer to your previous question, no, I don't think kids still watch Thunderbirds.

Okay, fine.

I take it all back.

That's not why they're being mean to him then.

The intelligence of these kids is something we should definitely talk about, though, because I find it terrifying.

I don't know what I was expecting, but it's so, it's crazy how smart they are, how quick they are, how funny they are.

It's really, it's really, really scary.

Yeah, because they're generally year five and year six, aren't they?

And I used to be a substitute teacher in primary schools for specifically like languages.

And I just remember because you do year three, year four, fine, great.

You do the colours with them.

You do weather.

the second you're substitute teacher for year six they're suddenly questioning the nature of weather and you're just like oh you know what guys i'm substitute i'm out they're hardcore i think it's a great show for reminding us of that yeah it is and also i mean i i this is probably a bit of a hacky old hat thing to say it is very interesting how the gender divide in in the attitude of them whereas the boys a lot of of the time, yeah, you're 10 and 11.

You're doing things you would expect 10 or 11-year-old boys to be doing.

The girls, you could put them next to people at a dinner party and they'd handle themselves in conversation.

I know.

That actually stressed me out a little bit.

I was like, am I 10?

Oh, don't.

Yeah, mad.

But also, well, we'll get on to it later.

There's a moment in the biscuits task that I was like, there's something in these blokes approach that is, sorry, blokes, I shouldn't say that.

Tiny blokes, I mean.

Tiny blokes, little lads.

There's something in their approach that I was like, wow, that's interesting.

And it's very effective.

Yes.

We'll get onto it.

We'll get onto it.

So, of course, the lineup for this heat, because of course, in Junior Taskmaster, we will be doing heats and then semifinals and then a final, which I think is a really fun way of doing it.

We have Syrah, Gwen, Maisie, Ollie, and Zach,

all of whom do a fantastic job in this, all of whom have very distinct ways of doing things and distinct approaches.

Let's talk about the prize task, which is the most glamorous object ever.

Oh, yeah.

What I'm really enjoying about Junior Taskmaster so far, and we've only had two episodes, is that

because it's kids and because it's members of the public, of course, as well, it's distinct from regular Taskmaster.

So a lot of the tasks and a lot of the prize tasks have been stripped back to almost what they were initially in Taskmaster.

So, it's almost like a little rebirth of it, which is quite interesting.

Yeah, I think that's true.

It's got a kind of a simplicity to it that really allows you to think, hang on, how would I do this?

And weirdly, it's even harder thinking about it of like, yeah, because of the kind of more basicness to it.

And I love that with these prize tasks, the attraction of gems, of gemstones, that is, you know, the child's

instinct to go towards the gemstone.

I remember that so vividly.

Plastic gemstones are glamour.

It's just, yeah, it's what an idea of what a kid thinks is glamorous is a very funny idea to me.

And the fact that

Syrah is first up and it's silk napkins.

They look gorgeous, to be fair.

I love it.

I love it.

And then Mike tries to make the distinction between being rich and being glamorous,

which I think they all sort of go towards the idea of glamour is money.

Yes.

And that is a shame, to be honest.

I would like to tell those kids: look, I can tell you, I've lived a few years now.

You don't need money to have relentless class style and glamour.

Sometimes you just need a pair of ripped tights.

Do you know what I mean?

And sometimes...

Money almost negates glamour.

Yes.

Because there's nothing glamorous about showing off money, right?

So they'll learn that in good time.

But for now, okay, we hear you.

Silk napkins, it was lovely.

I love the idea that silk napkins are glamorous.

You know,

mopping your brow with a silk napkin, is that glamorous?

There is something very glamorous in that.

Yeah.

I think anything silk where it could be cloth.

I can see where Syra's coming from with that.

And also, as it turned out, she was first, but it was already refreshing because she was pretty much the only one that didn't have gold or gems on.

Yep, so true.

Yeah.

So then we get Gwen, who really sells the price task absolutely perfectly.

She's, I think, Gwen's clearly seen the show before.

Yeah, there's something that Gwen does that really disturbs me.

It's exactly what I do.

I was like, the second they said, right, Gwen, and she goes, right,

and is about to make a pitch.

And I was like, oh, great.

So that's exactly what I do.

So I saw real sisterhood in her.

I was like, hey, girl, you mini me.

But at the same time,

it was very confronting.

Speaking of going, that's exactly how I present my prize task.

Good on you.

She really works with her arms a lot as well.

She's good at gesturing.

She's really, she's got it sewn up on her.

Totally.

But also, the lady does protest too much a little bit.

Like, she goes so hard.

And I just want to say with light and love, that's exactly what I do, Gwen.

That is exactly it.

I hear you.

So,

yeah, but no, she smashes it though.

The bejewelled toilet scene, fantastic.

Mike, Mike makes a point about comfort, and I think she fires back with something like, You come, you don't have to be comfortable to be glamorous.

Yeah, 100%.

High heels, the high heels point, it's it's

stunning retort.

Yeah, it's incredible, and really, I think, on a conceptual level, this is well, this is kind of similar to Syrah, I think those things that are actually really prosaic, really basic, but have that extra pizzazz to them.

The kind of the scatological with the gems, with the silk.

I think that's a great mix.

I think these guys are on it.

Yeah, I think the true glamour is sitting on a bejeweled toilet seat and then wiping with a silk napkin, isn't it?

Absolutely.

Let's not think about it too deeply, but yes.

See, that's the sort of thing I'd say if I was involved in Junior Taskmaster, and that's why I'm not involved in Junior Taskmaster.

Yeah.

Because I'm only making the boys laugh at that.

These girls would be absolutely horrifying.

Alienating the girls and making two good friends to the boys.

100%.

Maisie, who, you know, I don't have favorites on Junior Taskmaster, but her whole vibe, I'm very, I absolutely love Maisie.

I completely agree.

Oh, my God.

That little witch.

Love it.

Absolutely love it.

It's also because when she first speaks, she's very quiet, very polite.

Yeah.

And then you find out she's a witch and she starts doing these like evil eyes at Mike, like she's going to do a spell on him.

And I was like, great, you've got so much going on.

She starts to really, it's like drip coffee, Maisie.

It's, she starts to drip on through that show.

And by the end, you've got this amazing cup of coffee and you go, Christ, this is strong stuff.

She's incredible.

She's amazing.

She just brings in a gem.

To be fair to her, she didn't know people would be bringing multiple gems plastered across multiple objects.

She just brings in a gemstone that she bought in a Liverpool shop for five pounds.

See, this is what I love about it.

It's almost like Taskmaster was bottom of her list to do.

Like she had a busy week.

I'm arranging the coven.

I'm sorting out spells.

I'm literally buying kit for my hexes as is.

Oh, crap.

I've got to do junior taskmaster.

I'll have that gem.

She just seems really like she's got a big to-do list.

This wasn't very high up on it.

And I respect that to Helen Highwater.

It's awesome.

There's just a moment as well where I'm like,

the language skills of some of these kids are off the chain.

I think Rose maybe says, how are you?

And she goes, quite well.

I know.

Like, what?

Quite well.

Yeah, yeah.

I've never said that.

We can all learn from that.

It's like you're from a book.

Quite well.

Incredible.

Quite well.

Ollie, again, we're going gems.

Ollie brings in a top hat covered in gems.

What are gems popular with the youth?

You're saying you remember being drawn to gems.

I don't remember having having that moment with gems when I was between the age of

it's hard.

You know, it's very gendered.

Yes, is my answer.

I had little gemmed kitten heels, plastic kitten heels from the Disney store, gemmed head, whatever.

I think there was actually a limit on the amount of gems I was allowed.

You know, my parents were very strict.

My dad also had this really strong concept of I wasn't allowed.

Sorry, this will sound outrageous, but this is true.

All the time, he'd say, you're not allowed to be a tart.

and so being a tart involved uh like high-heeled sparkly jelly shoes involved posing and photos in a certain way it involved like excessive amounts of gems okay so couldn't be a tart and so it made me want gems even more because i i didn't get to have quite as many as i would have liked

there was a no tart rule in my household

oh god

it was this really iconic moment it was me and my brothers he took us out to London and we were in front of Buckingham Palace and he took a photo and he goes, right,

Emma, you are in huge trouble.

You looked like a tart.

And I was like, no, no, I didn't.

But in my head, I knew what he meant.

I was like, I kind of did.

I was giving tart then on purpose.

You were giving tart in front of Buckingham Palace of all places.

I was serving tart.

Now, so Jem's obviously very popular with the youth.

Were you aware?

I certainly wasn't.

I don't have kids.

You know, I'm very rarely

hanging around with kids.

Were you aware of how popular slogan t-shirts were amongst the youth community?

I'd say, are there three people wearing slogan t-shirts?

I think so.

Do you not

Did you were you not into slogan t-shirts?

I think they might have been around a long time and we didn't really realize we were even wearing them.

Yeah, maybe.

I mean, maybe, you know, I used to have a lot of clothes from, say, Debenham's, those sorts of shops, Gap, but they wouldn't have been like slogan slogans.

They might have said like rock and roll on it.

So you're absolutely right.

I had one that said support your local youth club that I was, I thought was the coolest thing in the world.

So yeah, slightly more ironic.

So because Ollie's got like a drum, a drumming one, because he's a drummer, that's mentioned.

I think Zach's got one saying I shouldn't have been left unattended.

And Maisie's obviously got one that says you can do anything, which comes up later on in the show.

Yeah,

that's such a good point.

I guess it's just an extra, you know, this, what are they?

They gen alpha, these guys, they're probably just better at communicating than literally any other generation since them in terms of the different methods.

Like, you've got your Snapchat, you've got your

something.com, you know, they just know how to use words in a succinct way to get their point across.

Maybe.

They're constantly broadcasting.

Even when they're not on their phones, they've always got a status update on their t-shirt.

I think so, and they're always aware of a character limit.

Yeah.

Zach, who is fantastic fun, I've got to say, brings in golden Greg's sausage rolls.

Now, this is good.

This hat to win.

Yeah, but he maintains that Gregg's is the fanciest British food shit.

I love that.

I love that.

Sometimes you need extreme subjectivity in a prize task, I think.

You just need to go for, this is how I see the world.

That has never served me well from experience.

You know, my Furby got nothing.

It was brutal.

But yeah, I really respect this approach.

And yeah, Greg's does have a kind of, you know, there's a royalty to Gregg's.

It's very, very important in our culture.

So, yeah, I just love that it's a Golden Greggs.

I know, I know it's subjective, but I wouldn't say it's the fanciest British food chain.

It's not even a sit-down establishment.

Look, this for him means a lot.

I think it's great.

And also, it's the glamour of it.

I do agree it's glamorous because if you go to Salt Bay's restaurant, right, and you get a steak, you get the golden steak because you're at Salt Bays.

It's almost like this is the salt bayification of Greg's.

And I just don't think I'm ready to argue that that's not glamorous.

I will argue that salt bayification is not glamorous.

Look, have you been to that restaurant?

No, and I will never go to that restaurant.

Well, Ed, you are so thick.

i can't even talk to you about it there i have been to salt bay no i no don't don't just stop i will leave i will leave this podcast i can't be bothered i went to the istanbul grand bazaar location of salt bay that is

that's glamour that's a party

and was he there

well if you count uh a wax model and maybe

five

10 foot billboards oh no 20 foot, I don't know how, as big as you can get.

If you count that as him being there, yeah, he was.

He was very present in both visually and in spirit.

You know what?

You saying that you've been to a Salt Bay restaurant and it's very glamorous.

You know what that's giving me?

That's giving me Tarte.

And you know what?

You're right.

That's it.

That's the problem.

I am so, I can't escape.

I can't avoid my compulsion to tart.

Yeah, you and your sparkly jelly shoes at Salt Bay's restaurant in Istanbul.

You don't know how true this is.

Okay.

But look,

I'd rather go to Greg's than a Salt Bay restaurant.

I think, you know, Greg's sausage rolls, they're an amazing piece of food architecture.

Yeah, they're UNESCO, really.

So, yeah.

Yeah, they are.

So it was a fantastic prize task.

It felt more individual than some of the others, maybe, because there's no gemstones.

He's gone with gold.

Yeah.

It stands out a bit more.

It tells you more about Zach.

That's it.

It's true to him.

It's true to him.

That's what I love to see in a prize task for sure.

Maisie gets the one point, which is dangerous as she's a witch.

Sarah gets two points.

Ollie gets three points.

Gwen gets four points and Zach gets five points.

Do you think, knowing Rose as you do, do you think the first time that she had to assign points to the children and actually give a child one point, do you think that was a nerve-wracking moment for her?

Because I think it would have been for me.

100%.

I think forward slash, I know it was

very, very difficult.

Not quite heartbreaking, but whatever's just before heartbreaking, I think it was really tough.

It's not in her nature either, really, to

like judge.

I don't know.

I know it was really hard.

I just remember her texting during it being like,

I'm loving doing this, but this bit is hard.

She does an amazing job with it.

And I think there's a way of doing it where you couch it within a compliment and say, you know,

that was really good, but I think maybe, you know, that I preferred this or whatever.

And I think she does a really good job of it.

And also, kids are hardier than we give them credit for, I think.

Yeah, that might be true.

And also, yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

She does it in a way that's quite clinical and just moves on.

You know, she doesn't really sit with, you know, Greg going, well, you get one point because you're the worst person that's ever lived.

You know, she moves past that.

So, no, she smashes it.

Really impressed.

Well, we've not seen all the episodes yet.

Maybe, maybe she does call one of the kids the worst person that's ever lived at some point.

I would love to know what glamorous object you brought in for us tonight.

I brought in a gemstone.

Okay.

Why are you so into gemstones, man?

No idea, but

I think it's got something to do with the fact that they are glamorous.

I brought in a Liverpool shop for five pounds.

Do you think it might have any magic in it?

You into that kind of thing at all?

Yeah.

Um,

I have an a coven that I started.

Does that make you like a witch or a warlock or something?

Yeah.

What?

How many people are in the coven?

Not including myself.

Do you do good in the coven or you...

It depends.

Okay, we'll keep an eye on you, Maisie.

Let's talk about task one then, which is safely deliver Mike's mate, Mark, a medium mocker.

You may not walk on the grass, fullest delivered cup wins.

You have 15 minutes.

Your time starts now.

I love this.

A hard task.

A hard task in any version of Taskmaster.

I wanted to have this task in my series.

I loved this.

What would you have done?

Yeah, what would I, so I did have a feeling I would have.

I don't think the mocker station needed to be where it was.

I think I might have taken the kit else.

There was something about the bath in the distance, right?

I almost wanted to kind of get Mike to help me with the bath, get all the kit in the bath, transfer me over there in the bath, and then make it over there.

I think they were slightly beholden to where the mocker making station was.

And it's almost like, get your kit over there, right?

In whichever mad way you want to do it.

And then right by Mark, let's mocker him up.

I think just because it was specifically about millilitres as well,

I think that would have been helpful.

And I just couldn't ignore the bath in the corner there.

It just felt really, I wanted to get in that tub and be moved around in it.

But that might be a bit ambitious as well.

Well, I mean, as we know from your series of Taskmaster, you see the bath, you're getting in it for at least one task, you know.

That's exactly it.

And do I do well in the task?

No, of course not.

I do terribly.

But that was my sort of instinct.

What did you think?

What would you have done?

Well, it's it's interesting you bring that up because obviously the mocker station doesn't have to be in the same place but mark doesn't have to be in the same place oh that's so true get just get mark over there move mark next to the mocker station you just make him a mocker and it's right in front of him you've delivered it yeah i think that's this this we're doing our boring old taskmaster veteran way of picking everything apart yeah sometimes you just want to see some kids trying to get across grass without walking on it yeah totally and look i do want to i want to call them all out here here.

I think they all cheated to death.

There were so many feet,

you know, treading away on that grass.

That was the only thing that I was like, look, you're lucky any of you to get any points.

But

that is why I'm not the junior taskmaster.

I'd be awful.

So what do you, do you think?

So Gwen, for example, says I can run on the grass instead of.

Oh, I thought that was a dreadful.

I thought, no, as in not in a, Gwen's dreadful, I was just very strict on that.

I was like, girl.

Do you really?

Yeah.

I thought it was smart.

I was into that idea.

Just Maisie hopping, I thought, was good as well.

The problem is she can't really hop.

So there's a lot of like just walking in between hops.

I know.

It's so cute.

So cute.

But again, yeah, completely, completely not allowed.

So I...

Okay, I see it like this.

If you're outside Hampton Court Palace, right?

And it says, you do not walk in the grass, they're not letting the kids run on it.

I'm seeing it in a kind of like overall what that means way.

But I don't,

but the taskmaster way is reading what the task doesn't say and then doing it to help you.

Yeah, but Ed, have you not seen my approach?

I get constantly mulled for not being like that.

I don't.

I have such a miserable time and so many Taskmaster tasks because

I try not to sort of, you know, break or undo the rules.

So yes, you're absolutely right, but I, that's not my approach at all i wish it was

i really enjoyed the the chat with gwen um saying that she makes her uh tea for tea for her parents all the time i know so sweet and then mike saying do you get paid for that and she just said no it's child labor like what is this

she still does it though she knows she has to do it she knows she's got to do it and doesn't she say medium brew i love that she just straight off gives the recipe

She does the wrapping paper across the grass, does a bit of running across the grass.

I think it was a look, it was a great attempt.

She had the nice mockery in there.

Maisie, Maisie, like we say, tries to do a hop across the grass.

There is some walking in there.

They're so sweet, those little hops.

They're tiny.

They're great.

But yeah, there is walking in there, 100%.

Yeah, only manages to deliver 110 mils of mocker.

I mean, really, she should have got naught points, but we won't go into that.

No.

Because she does walk on the grass.

Also, the task finishes and she carries on hopping, which I feel like you would have done 100%.

I think sadly, yeah.

My mind wouldn't have stopped at the end of the task.

Yeah.

Sarah, the mocha looks absolutely awful.

It's not even mixed.

I don't think it's just powder piled up.

I love that Sarah says, I would drink that just in case.

She, you know, she's like covering her bases.

She's like, if you don't think that's good mocha, well, I would drink it.

Happily.

Well, when I was a kid, I probably would have done that as well.

If I'm making a drink like that, it's the sort of drink I'd make at a friend's house if we had full run of the kitchen.

But I'm just remembering, actually, I used to purposely not

dissolve all my chocolate powder into hot chocolate because I loved the sensation of the powder.

So, yeah, you know what, Cyra?

I hear you completely agree.

I think I'm still the same.

Like, it's not, if there's like, in a drink like that, if there's like a nugget of wet chocolate powder at the bottom,

right into it and it's dry in the middle.

Oh, that's good stuff.

Nothing like that.

It's like chewy.

Chewy.

She uses, again, smart uses vests from the shed to make a path across the grass.

Very good.

I mean, this is what I mean.

Like, the task is potentially has less caveats than normal Taskmaster because you want to give the kids the opportunity to work those things out for themselves.

Yeah.

Do you think initially when they started filming it, they were like, oh man, they're so much smarter than we thought.

We should have given them all the caveats that we give to the adults.

Yeah, that's I'd love to ask and find out.

Yeah, yeah, because also, though, it does

you say that it is still challenging.

Like, do you, you know, almost everyone goes for the wrapping paper, and for almost everyone, it blows away.

That gave me great pleasure.

And being like, hey, guys, look, this is hard.

This is hard.

You get some paper weights on this because you're going to need it.

I liked all the people who worked out that they could just stand on paper and just

sort of shuffle

across.

Yeah, shuffle.

That's more of a picture.

No, shoosh is fantastic as well.

But yeah, no, I agree.

I think that even felt like a revelation.

I hadn't thought of shuffling on paper.

And when you see that, you're like, yeah, great, brilliant.

It does make you think, what counts as walking on the grass, though?

Because could they have crawled?

In your shoes is walking on the grass, but stepping on a thin piece of paper isn't walking.

I don't know.

No one crawls.

I probably would have tried to crawl.

Yeah, crawling, I think, is okay.

And again, outside Hampton Court Palace, they'd probably let you crawl.

They'd be so weirded out by it.

Yeah.

I don't know why you have decided the rules are the same as Hampton Court Palace, Emma.

I think it's a helpful framework to use for everything in life.

I can imagine you now in the studio shouting in Andy's face, just going, Would you do that at Hampton Court Palace?

Would you do that at Hampton Court, Andy's Ottoman?

Zach uses bricks.

I mean, look,

it's, I think this was a bad idea from Zach in terms of I get the idea, but once you're the reality of it, of trying to balance on rubber bricks walking across grass, I think he found out pretty quickly that that was perhaps not the best pathway to use.

That's it.

It's what the bricks are made of.

You know,

he needed to dismiss that, but still, very fun to watch.

Very, very fun to watch.

So fun to watch.

And still manages to get 80 mils of money.

Yeah, which isn't bad, actually, considering what he had to go through.

Yeah.

Ollie does the wrapping paper and this is the most stressful one to watch by far

because he sets up this path, goes onto another bit of wrapping paper, the previous pathway blows away in the wind.

So he just strands himself over and over again.

It is.

I also want to shout out the absolute composure of these children.

Yeah, that's true actually.

Yeah.

Do you mean that they don't sort of get upset or lose hope or whatever?

Yeah, completely agree.

Like I would have done.

Absolutely.

I would have been screaming at the top of my lungs every time a piece of paper blew.

Yeah, because also the wind feels a bit, it's like Mike's put the wind on there.

As in I would blame, there's something about the wind that feels very on purpose.

And none of them seem to do that, but blame the wind.

So good on him.

And he's stepping on the grass loads as well.

Yeah.

Yeah, very, very stressful watch, but still gets 150 mils a mocha.

They all delivered mark a mocha.

Yeah.

So they did all achieve the task.

There was some stepping.

There's some things that you're disputing because of the Hampton Court rule that you've invented.

But it's Gwen who gets the five points.

Syrah gets four points.

Maisie gets three points.

And Ollie and Zach both on one point.

Wow.

It's a good start.

It's a good start.

So what's the mocha?

Probably coffee, I'm assuming.

Well, that looks nice.

I think that's cocoa.

I'm pretty sure it's edible though.

That's the

main thing.

Well, you don't want to poison Mark, do you?

Oh gosh, this isn't working, is it?

It's leafing everywhere.

Did you say that in a cafe?

Yeah.

Okay.

I mean, I would drink it.

Is that Mark?

Of course that's Mark.

He looks like he needs a coffee.

Yeah.

Did I ever tell you the story of how Mark and I met?

How?

We were both backing dancers for Shakira's 2009 Tree Wolf tour.

Shakira?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Long story short.

He saved my life in Vegas.

How?

I'm not sure I can tell you until you're 18.

Oh.

Just look at the eyes.

It makes him look desperate.

Sad.

Sad.

He has no one to love him.

He's got me.

Here, Mark.

Task two.

I love this task.

Again,

simple, but so many options.

Make a paper airplane out of one of these things.

You must use the paper you touch first.

You may not cut or tear the piece of paper.

Your paper aeroplane must look like an aeroplane.

Once your paper aeroplane is complete, you have one attempt to launch it from the departure window.

Furthest flight wins.

You have 10 minutes.

Your time starts now.

So a little bit of like harsh trickery.

Yeah.

I wasn't sure they were going to employ on the junior taskmaster, but they've done it and I appreciate it.

Do you mean the first piece of paper you touch has to be the one?

Yes.

Yeah.

And also, bearing in mind, the only appropriate piece of paper for a paper aeroplane is hidden by a toilet roll and it's got a massive hole in the middle.

I know.

I know, but they should have thought of that.

So the majority of them do go for that.

Yeah.

Three of them go for it

and have the one with the hole in the middle.

And they're just sort of exasperated.

I think they must know by this point.

They're like, right, yeah, very clever.

Very clever, Mike.

Yeah.

I also,

and again, I can't be too critical of this because we don't quite know the circumstance.

I would have wanted to see the departure window.

I would have said, show me the departure window, had a good look there and then thought, right, okay,

how is that affected my choice at all?

Because, you know, you sometimes have that taskmaster thing where the window is actually a tiny hatch.

And, you know, it's just, I don't know.

That was my, that was my reaction.

I don't think they would have let you look at the departure window because you've got 10 minutes.

There's that, the time pressure of touching the thing and then making the plane.

i just don't think probably right yeah and they would have had to set it up as as you said but yeah zach maisie and ollie all uh end up with the piece of paper with the hole in the middle gwen picks the tiny piece of paper

which is a wild decision but i liked it i'm glad she she was just like right let's but let's set this on hard mode um and sarah gets very taskmaster confused

She thinks she's going to be docked points, I think, if she uses another piece of paper because the the task is the first piece of it.

I wouldn't have thought of that myself, but it was a good.

I understand where she was coming from there, definitely.

Yeah, because you're constantly worried that they're going to go, you're disqualified, because that was the first piece of paper you touched.

And also, paper card, probably quite a good way of making a present.

Yeah, I think it was a great material, to be honest.

I was really hoping that she was going to smash it with that.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

Even though Zach, you know, Zach did what I would have done in the studio, picked her up on it and said, oh,

why did you use that?

It wasn't paper, but I think it is paper, isn't it?

It still comes under the umbrella of paper.

It feels like really nice paper.

Because what's it called?

GSM or something?

It's high GSM.

It's just high GSM paper, I'm afraid, Zach.

I hear you, but I disagree with you.

I'm Team Sire.

Oh, and look, they all make things that look like airplanes just about as well.

Yeah, they're all pretty good.

I actually think they're all better than i could have done i've i've never been a paper aeroplane person i feel as many times as i learned how to do it i could never actually do it so this would be some kids were amazing at it weren't they some kids had like different fins on it and stuff was it ollie who was just like

or maybe somebody was just made it so perfectly so quick well they all look like i guess the the saying they have to look like airplanes is trying to stop them just screwing up the paper and throwing it out the window yes yeah.

Yeah, Hen, could you read me the task at the top again quickly?

Make a paper airplane.

Is that what it says?

Yeah, you must use the paper you touch first.

You may not cut or tear the piece of paper.

Your paper airplane must look like an airplane.

Oh, you can't cut or tear.

Now that's hard, isn't it?

Because what would anyone do with that toilet roll?

Nothing.

Nothing.

I mean, no one, surely no one would ever go for the toilet roll.

I love that it was in a different colour though.

Wasn't that fantastic?

Yeah.

I was just thinking, what Rymans are you going to to get that toilet paper?

That is stunning.

Obviously, PSA, please don't use red toilet paper because it will stop you picking up on any medical emergency.

Wow, that's so true.

Christ.

Thanks for that, Ed.

No worries.

You know, I heard this, have you heard that rumor about the specific celebrity that I can't mention who they are who uses only black toilet paper?

Have you never heard about that?

What's the rumour?

And then afterwards you can tell me.

Just that they only use black toilet paper, and they're quite a powerful person.

So, in their office, like in their sort of thing that they own, all the loser has to be black toilet paper.

And if they're coming in, there's no black toilet paper, you have to get it in.

Wow.

What's the reason?

Well, I think it's because that person can't bear to see their own poo, as in they refuse to acknowledge the abject.

Yeah, damn mate.

Do you agree with that?

That's Grape Davis.

Yeah.

It is Grape Davis.

It isn't.

Yeah, yeah.

And if he likes black toilet paper,

you could use white toilet paper and not look, but then how do you know when you're.

I think this person is weird for this.

Yes.

Oh, it's weird, Emma.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's definitely weird.

They all make airplanes that look like airplanes, I would say.

Obviously, some of them are dealing with different sizes.

Gwen is using the tiny one.

It obviously doesn't do well because it's absolutely tiny.

I would have done the same thing.

Yeah.

I mean,

mine would have been absolutely awful.

I think mine would would have been more like Maisie goes with a very basic paper aeroplane.

She says she's not very good at making them,

but it does okay.

She goes with the basic design

and she gets the four points.

Ollie, of course, bags the five points.

And I think this is a wonderful, inspiring lesson for Taskmaster and life.

You might be disappointed at what you've done at the time, but it turns out it's actually quite good in the scheme of things.

It's so true.

And I love to me, he's got that sort of

masculine urge to make this thing go insanely far.

And even though it goes six meters or whatever, it's just not far enough.

He wanted it to go into the trees.

He's going to go over the stones by the shed.

No, he did great.

He wanted it to fly to Dubai or something.

He wanted a fly.

Any less than that, and he's gutted.

But no, they all do do pretty well.

And bearing in mind, they've got to contend with Mike pretending to be an air traffic controller guy.

I love that.

I love Maisie saying, I like your lightsabers.

It was so nice.

It felt

rather fetching.

It was like a genuine compliment.

Oh, God.

You look rather fetching.

Who has that command of vocabulary when you're

that age?

10-year-old witch.

Nine-year-old witch.

Yeah.

Incredible.

It is one point for Gwen, two points for Syrah three points for Zach, four points for Maisie, and five points for Ollie.

An easier one for Rose to judge because it's all on distance.

There's no messing around with subjective judgments.

It's not like a rice task.

Take any

accusations of bias out of this.

This is simply a plane's flight.

Lucky Rose.

Yes.

Ollie, are you ready?

Yes.

Zach.

Yes.

Syrah.

Yeah.

Have you secured the buffet trolley?

Yep.

When?

Check the oil and water.

Yeah.

Maisie.

I like your lightsaber toys.

Thank you.

You look very fetching in your jacket.

I really appreciate that, Maisie.

It means a lot to me.

Prepare for launch on my mark.

Three,

two,

one.

Shots away.

Task three, get the most digestive biscuits through a sieve.

You have two minutes to plan and six minutes to complete the task.

Your time starts now.

Again, lovely task.

Love this so much.

You know, you're instantly thinking of ways around it because actually getting the, as Maisie found out, because she said, this is going to take forever, isn't it?

There's like, no, girl, it's going to take as long as you have.

She doesn't do great compared to the others.

She gets 0.44 biscuits through the sieve because she's trying to crush them and get them through.

But great revelation that she does jiu-jitsu.

She's busy.

This girl is busy.

She's busy.

She's cool.

She's got extra curriculum.

I wanted her to use her jiu-jitsu

more effectively.

Like, surely

there was a way.

I mean, I don't know anything anything about jiu-jitsu but i just feel she'll know some of the moves get some planks of wood out and get those biscuits smashed i just yeah i think jiu-jitsu is there's more like uh sort of submission holds and more uh things like that so i feel like she would have had to have chunks

on a digestive yeah

i mean that's tv basically does do that

she's trying to get the biscuits through the sieve but i think if you go route one on this and just try and push it through a sieve, it's you're not going to, you're not going to do great.

I don't think so.

I mean, can I say something very arrogant?

At this age, I would have absolutely smashed this task.

And I was really addicted to baking this thing.

It's probably the reason I have fillings now.

I had made this thing called Annabelle Carmel's Chocolate Fridge Cake.

And if you are a kid listening to this, look up this recipe because it is the most delicious and easy thing to make.

And a massive part of it.

so it's like this chocolate fridge cake with dried apricots in it and stuff.

It's condensed milk, it's chocolatey.

Oh my god, it's actually so good.

I want to make it this afternoon.

Anyway, a big part of the process to make this, and it involves no cooking, that's why it's, you know, no heat.

It's all in the fridge.

You have to fill a bag, as big a freezer bag as you can, with digestives and then beat up the digestives until they are this tiny grainy pulp.

You know, they need to be tiny breadcrumbs that would go through a sieve.

so i was doing this maybe weekly to make this fridge cake so i was kind of begging these guys in my head i was like someone get a plastic bag seal it and then just go nuts for it then you will have in this plastic bag all of these grains get them through the sieve and the boys actually they've got that sort of like maybe natural compulsion to hammer stuff

that they really went for that kind of style very quickly and i was like like, that is how you make Annabelle Carmel's fridge cake.

Yes, lads.

Yes.

I mean, they both did it.

I mean, Zach's first instinct was to get a big rock,

which is fantastic.

And when, you know, when consulted on what else a big rock could deal with, he says Edmund.

Incredible.

It's very male celebrity chef coded, isn't it?

It's very like Marco Pierre White or something, just being like, right, the pig, the hooves, the trotters.

But he goes with the the steak tenderizer onto a stool, which I really like as well.

He's showing these biscuits absolutely no respect.

Ollie goes with blender, which I think in my head, I'd go like, yeah, blender.

But then the reality of trying to blend dry biscuits is

he needed maybe a bit of liquid, but then would that affect the sieve?

I was really interested in this task.

I would love to do it.

I'd love to have a go in the blender with a bit of liquid, see if that sieves through.

Obviously, experience that it doesn't work.

No, but it was good.

It was good to watch that.

I liked it a lot.

Yeah, it was.

And it's good to see the

range of approaches to tasks as well.

Like, even at a young age, everyone's brains are different.

There's no one really doing exactly the same thing in the same way.

Like, even if they're doing a similar technique, they're taking it in a different direction.

So the blender, the steak tenderizer, just crushing them with your hands.

Like, they're all trying something a little bit different.

I think it's.

Again, like you said earlier, the lack of despair.

You know, I think I would, well, how the hell do I do this?

I mean, I wouldn't have been like that because, of course, my Annabelle Fridge Carmel, yeah, Annabelle Fridge cake that I'm so good at, but in general, that that feeling of Maisie's kind of thing of how can I get this done in the time, she doesn't get upset, she just mildly gets on with it and makes 0.5 grams of biscuits.

My only thought with this was

you

cut a hole in the sieve.

Ah, yes.

Yes.

Because hang on, what did you think of Gwen's?

What did you think of Gwen's approach?

Well, I thought it was.

I think Gwen is playing 3D chess.

Yes.

Yeah.

I think Gwen has definitely watched a lot of Taskmaster before.

I think all of that knowledge and the fact that she's clearly thinking on some different plane that I can't even conceive of means that she has philosophically rebranded the sieve and decided that if you name something something, it becomes that thing, even if it doesn't mean what it previously did.

It does get very deep, doesn't it?

It does get very

ceci ne pair peep or cessi et un peep.

What's that thing?

The René Magritte, you know.

So you've got René Magritte, it's like an apple with a bowler hat, and this is not a pipe, or this is a pipe, or whatever.

Sorry, I've got it wrong.

But she's in the weeds of surrealism here, yeah, or the yeah, the

found that.

Yeah, and I think once you're chucking those sorts of concepts around, you almost can't deny it.

Like, I think there's a lot of chat in the studio, people saying, well, it's not that anymore.

And even if it was, then you should be putting, you should be, you've labeled the tape.

So the tape is the sieve, not the bag.

Yeah.

It just, it gets very deep very quickly.

And I think it almost to end the conversation, Rose goes, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Rose is like, I can't have, I can't live with the consequences of this.

I'm going to make these consequences minimal.

Yeah.

But yeah, I thought cutting a hole in the sieve, so at least then it's still going through what was previously the sieve, even if the sieve is broken.

But I don't think they're going to let kids grab a pair of scissors and cut some high-tensile foil wire on it.

Probably not, Ed.

Probably not.

I did love, was it Ollie?

No, Zach.

Zach being like,

I ideally would have liked a chainsaw.

And Mike just really calmly being like, yeah, no, you're totally right.

We should have that in the Junior Taskmaster shed for next time.

Yeah,

I really feel like I can't.

Yeah.

And crucially, not when I was his age.

I mean,

yeah.

Go to a gig together, rock out.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, look,

I think Gwen is thinking so differently to everyone else in this task.

You do have to.

know, absolutely true.

I think I,

what do I want to say about that?

I almost think she was too clever, but how can you not reward that?

You know, and it was, it was really satisfying seeing those biscuits go through the short, the sort of chute of the plastic bag.

It was pretty iconic.

Yeah.

Like it was like Syrah's idea of

putting the biscuits through the handle at the top.

Yeah, if she'd got there straight away, she would have done, she would have got way more biscuits biscuits through

because that was very, very smart.

Oh, God, it really is a semantics freak fest, this, isn't it?

It's hard work.

But no,

they all did a good job.

Maisie, though, got the one point.

Syrah got the two points.

Ollie got the three points.

Zach got the four points.

And Gwen got the five.

Fair enough.

Oh, I do like digestifs.

Is that your favourite kind of biscuit?

I don't think

they're dead.

It's quite sinister.

Well, let's just say

if you eat it, it's dead.

Right, it's nothing.

You know what?

I'm going to try a different...

Crushing several biscuits with my fist at the same time.

I do do a martial arts class.

Do you?

Yes.

What do you do?

Jiu-Jitsu.

It's Japanese.

How far could you throw me, do you think?

Mmm.

30, 40 centimetres.

Okay, that's quite good, I think.

Nine seconds left.

Oh gosh, it's all spilling out the sieve.

This is part of the sieve.

Can I just do that?

Get it through the sieve.

Thank you, Maisie.

Do you know where I can wash my hands?

I do, yes.

Yes, okay.

There's a lot of biscuits that are not quite dead yet.

A haunting idea to finish with.

Did any of the biscuits scream on the way through?

Yeah, I guess.

Let's talk about the live task.

This is almost what I'd be most worried about with Junior Taskmaster: the live task, because it's sort of easier to just get on with tasks and do them when you can't see what anyone else is doing.

That's right.

But the pressure of being on a stage when you can see what everyone else is doing, that would be personally, I mean, look, it literally happened happened to me on the show, but you know, as a kid, that's when I probably would have got the most worried or just a bit of a.

I think maybe I was even watching it going, oh my God, the difference, a big difference between normal, normal taskmaster and junior taskmaster is normal taskmaster, everybody's very different ages.

So you sort of just see this like weird rainbow of freaks.

When it's like kids that are all kind of the same year, I suddenly was like, oh my God, we're at school.

you know suddenly feel like oh my god this is a year group this is a generation this is I don't know there was something very um I hadn't really thought that before that you know because they're all so different and such amazing different approaches suddenly in the live task they were all around 10 years old and you just go okay it's on the pressure is on Huge pressure, especially with this one that would have thrown me for a loop.

Write the names of all of your colours in different colours.

You must not write the name of your colour in that color or use the same colour twice.

Every word must be legible.

You must not remove your gloves.

Most correct words in the correct colours wins.

You have 100 seconds.

So they're obviously all wearing these gloves with all have a different pen on the end of them, but the lids don't match the colours on the pens.

There's an extra twist in the whole thing.

My view on this is that those kids did so much better than adults would have done.

I don't know why

something happens to our brains where, as in adult brains, where we get slow at stuff stuff like this, I just, when I saw how well they're done, I was like, nah, this, this accidentally is a live task for adults who would fail in such pathetic ways.

And I'm talking about myself.

Yeah, yes, me too.

I would say that.

I just.

So, yeah, with some of these, you know, some of how people did, I was just like, incredible.

You know, your mind is free, flexible, and ready to work.

You're at the peak of your life.

I think it's the legibility that surprised me the most because

mine would be all over the place trying to write with my little finger.

Yeah, you're so right.

Don't, isn't it on the left-hand some of them as well?

You know, oh, I'm sorry, that everybody's left or right-handed, yeah.

Yeah, oh, I'm really impressed.

I wonder whether you can grab them, grab them with your dominant hand and write normally.

So grab the finger

of the pen you want to use and write.

But at that point, you know, I'm still, I'm thinking about the fact that the colour I want

has a different lid on it.

I'm trying to think of a colour to write, make sure it's not in that colour and make it legible.

I'd be all, I'd be all over.

Oh my god, you always think about your own contestants, I think.

But seeing Jack D doing this, I just don't think he could have coped with it.

Well, I mean, I see your Jack D and raisy David Badil.

That is so you probably would have had an itchy nose and scratched his face and ended up with a purple face, you know?

God, no, I thought, I really thought they all did did really amazingly.

And there was so barely anything in it.

Because no one had made some big mistake of writing green in green.

They all had different levels of

how many they'd got in there.

But overall, people smashed it.

It was literally just based on the amount of words that they managed to write in the end because they didn't fall for any of the tricks that

the taskmaster tried to put in front of them.

Maybe at that age, coloured pens are a lot more part of your life.

I think, you know, if you said to any of them, when did you last use a coloured pen?

They say, oh, God, 8 a.m.

this morning.

Yeah.

Because what would we say?

We'd say, oh,

somebody died two years ago and

I used a coloured gel pen for the sympathy card.

Sorry.

What an interesting thing.

That's not relatable either.

That was at the front of your brain.

Who are you writing a sympathy card in memory?

It wasn't a sympathy card.

Are you using a coloured jar?

I just feel like occasionally a coloured pen will come out for a greeting card.

Maybe.

Yes.

For a greeting card, but not a grieving card.

Not a grieving card, but who knows?

This person could have been a very eclectic person that would have liked coloured jar pen.

No, look, that was a terrible example.

But I'm trying to say that it's hard to think of an example.

When did you last use a coloured jar?

Yes.

I couldn't tell you, to be honest.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't have sort of an array of coloured pens.

Although I'm pretty sure my wife has some

colour pens.

But that's it.

It becomes a hobby.

Whereas for kids, it's more like a lifestyle that you can't avoid.

Yeah.

Sorry, now I'm just imagining what this funeral is.

Is it Groovy Chick?

As Groovy Chick died.

Yeah, exactly.

It's the death of Groovy Chick.

The death of the creator of Groovy Chick.

And you just know that card's got to be in gel pens.

God, imagine how many tarts would be at that funeral.

Bone Ed.

I'd love it.

Don't let my dad know.

It was two points for Maisie, three points for Ollie, four points for Zach, and five points each for Cyra and Gwen.

They both get eight words, which is very, very impressive.

Meaning the final scores of this heat, Maisie on 10 points, Ollie on 14 points, Cyra on 15 points.

Zach gets 16 points, meaning he's through to the semifinals, and the winner with an outstanding 20 points is Gwen through to the semifinals as well.

There was sort of no doubt for me when Gwen introduced herself at the top of the episode with the right.

She was in with a good job.

And I also love when Zach's a runner-up, you can hear him go, oh my God, it's very X-Factor.

Yeah.

And he's very like older than you'd think as well.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

He's brilliant.

But I hope, I hope the three who didn't make it through, I hope they know how brilliant they were.

And I even needed to be told this a little bit last week.

I was, the episode I did, whenever you're listening to this, but the episode that was

for me last week, I was in this hot dog costume and it went horribly wrong for me.

It just, I couldn't have done worse.

And I actually watched it and for the first time felt like quite gutted and embarrassed.

And I needed,

I think it was my mum who was just like no you did great and it was very funny like as in I did so shit I did so bad and I just want these

the three of them who haven't gone through to know how fantastic they were how brilliant they were to watch

and that it was just it's so not about this show just isn't about how well you do or the points you get they were just incredible i thought as much as it pains me to say this it's not about winning.

It's not about getting loads of points.

It is about having fun.

You're kind of lying, though.

Oh, well, yeah.

To me, to me, it's about winning.

No, but no, you're totally right, though.

And they were all brilliant.

So we will look forward to seeing Zach and Gwen again.

But well done to Maisie, Ollie, and Syra.

And thank you to you, Emma.

You are so welcome.

What a joy.

And I feel so excited for the rest of this series.

It's absolutely brilliant.

Yes.

And I love Rose Motorfeit.

Yes, she's very good.

You are on tour, of course.

I'm not sure of the age range of your audience, but this will hopefully get the 8 to 11 year old.

Yes, I would say definitely you cannot come if you are age 8 to 11.

There is no way it's appropriate for you.

But send your parent or guardian.

I think it's a 16 plus show.

16 plus just because of some of the themes.

But, and some of the themes are maybe boring as well.

They're political themes, and that's why it's 16 plus.

Now, there are some other slightly more sexy themes that are probably why not younger people can come.

But, yes, I am on tour.

Loads of dates are still going on.

So, you've got leave

to Glasgow.

Yeah, exactly.

End of November, back in London as well.

So, yeah, do it's called Emma Sidious Sue Gray is the name of the tour.

And I'd love anyone to come over the age of 16.

And we're going to put a link to buy tickets in the show notes.

So, if you're listening to this now, you need a quick candy link.

That's where to click.

Now, on our regular Taskmaster episodes, we ask our guests to rate their experience on the podcast.

I feel like we should do that on this as well.

Feel free.

I don't know.

I've tried to think of a way of theming it to Taskmaster Juniors, but

I can't be bothered.

So we'll just do it as a bad one.

Yeah, perfect.

So hang on.

What was it?

Rating it out of five again?

Yeah, just out of five for how much you've enjoyed yourself, et cetera.

I was quite harsh last time, I think.

Didn't I give you a three or something?

Maybe, yeah, maybe.

That was awful of me, Ed, honestly.

I haven't been able to sleep since.

Oh, don't worry.

Rosie Jones gave it a one.

Oh, my God.

I need to learn that.

And then deconstructed my personality for a full five minutes.

Good on her.

She earns her keep, that girl.

I would give this, I would give this five.

It's been really nice.

It is a lovely episode to watch.

Those contestants are wicked.

It's the beginning of a whole new series and kind of side of Taskmaster.

So look, I would say I've got something to complain about, but I just don't, mate.

You've been great.

Just for listeners, we did have to stop halfway through because Emma had to go and get a small biscuit because her tummy was rumbling.

So I don't know whether that affects the points or not, but you got a biscuit.

I mean, that's probably what's brought it to five.

If I hadn't been able to get a biscuit, I'd go, you know, you just get a bit hangry, don't you?

And you go, yeah, this has been fine.

Just piss off off now, whatever.

I'm over it.

But because I had a biscuit halfway through, literally halfway through, that has just set me up.

Yeah, that's wonderful.

You're ready for the day.

Yeah.

Are you going to have a biscuit today?

I'm going to go have lunch, I think, because literally, as I was making fun of you for your stomach rumbling, my stomach rumbled rumbled.

That's mad.

Well, I think that's karma.

Sympathy rumble.

Yeah.

Thank you very much, Emma Siddy.

Goodbye.

Bye-bye.

Thank you so much to Emma for coming on.

Don't forget, you can go and see Emma on tour until the end of November.

Emma City is Sue Gray.

Tickets are available.

I think we've stuck a little link in the episode notes so you can go and buy tickets.

Otherwise, just go and follow Emma on social media, check out her website, and all the details will be there.

We will be back next week, of course, to talk about Junior Taskmaster episode three.

A fresh bunch will be coming in to tackle the tasks, and I'm sure it will be wonderful.

So we will see you next week.

Thanks again to Emma, and thanks again to you for listening.

Bye-bye.