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How do you like function in like a world of scoundrels?

I mean, the nation is a nation.

No, no, no, come on.

Hello and welcome back to the Adam Friedland Show.

I'm Adam Friedland.

And guys, let me start off by saying thank you to you, the fans, for the outpouring of enthusiasm and acclaim that we've received since the beginning of our second season.

But let me remind all of you, we're just getting started.

And for this week's guest, I was joined by none other than California Congressman Roe Khanna.

Now, as the Democratic Party has struggled to to redefine their message in the wake of the last election, Roe has emerged as a prominent voice from the progressive wing of the party.

Now, as many of you know, this show is the new kid on the block.

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So, in the promotional run-up to the show, we had to get a little crafty.

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So first,

this.

New York City Hall.

For some, a hallowed ground of civic engagement, but to me, another stage for one of my hilarious jokes.

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For the council members, a moment of biting satire.

For the concerned citizens, a comedy show from a celebrity free of charge.

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Adam Friedland.

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Hello.

Hi.

My name's Adam.

I prepared a statement.

If you'll excuse me, I've never been to a committee session before.

I've never been to the city council.

And in light of what we've heard today and the gravity of the subject matter,

I don't feel like it's,

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It was about something totally different.

I just want to let you guys know,

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myself included,

people have like kind of lost faith in our institutions and

seeing

people standing up for children

today.

And I'm inspired by the work of the chairman and

Mr.

Jumani and

Councilperson Cabin and Stevens.

You guys are awesome.

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This actually matters.

Most everything is bullshit.

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And

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if by any chance he's watching it,

you know,

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We could talk about it.

And

it hurt my feelings.

But who am I to call out a fellow citizen, especially in light of everything we've heard today?

So keep kicking ass, everyone.

Give it up for yourselves.

This is.

Oh, it's okay.

Thank you a lot, everyone.

All right.

All right.

Thank you.

Hello, my name is Sharon Brown.

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This is Adam Friedman signing off.

Democratic Congressman from California, Rokana.

Everyone.

Normally I do the introduction, but okay.

That's a new thing.

That's our Andy Richter over there.

That's our Jimmy Parda Congressman.

Thanks for watching.

Great to be on.

We talked briefly on Zoom.

We talked, and I followed you during the whole Bernie thing.

I mean, you were a

whole, what do you mean the whole since the 2016?

The Bernie 2020 campaign.

That's when I was a coach.

2020.

I know.

And you were, you were.

You followed me?

I mean, I followed that you were a very

big advocate for him.

There weren't a lot of people or the media, I mean, you were independent media who were supporting it.

That's how I came to know who you were.

Is that right?

That's really true.

Politicians are such good liars.

I was on a podcast called Come Town at the time.

You were active.

I mean, yeah.

I was a big supporter of.

I was at the Queen's Rally.

What do you think of her?

Just because you're a comedian?

No?

Because you're a progressive.

You saw me in the

VIP section of the Queen's Rally.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which I had to lie my way into.

I wasn't at the Queen's Rally.

That was the one with AOC, right?

I stood right next to her.

Yeah.

I didn't say anything, but I think she probably knew who I was, too.

I met Michael Moore, though, on the other hand.

He's very good.

He's the man.

Yeah.

I mean he kind of like was Trump before Trump in terms of understanding what was going on.

I agree.

He was the only guy that was like Trump's going to win.

And he was the only guy who understood the two basic things, which was people's jobs were being snatched from them, shipped offshore by greedy corporations, and we're going in all these dumb wars.

And those were the two, I mean, Trump had a lot of other BS, but those are the two central things that Trump ran on in 16.

Well, and also throwing Hillary in a dungeon.

Oh, there was that part too.

Yeah, yeah.

That was a big winner for him, I think.

And he didn't follow through.

And that's the thing about Trump.

He doesn't follow through on his promises to throw the former first lady Hillary Clinton in a dungeon.

That's not a good thing.

Actually, for me, it was Michael Moore and then every single one of my black comedian friends

were like, yeah, there's no way Hillary Clinton's winning it.

And I was like, Jamel, if you look at the 538th polls, there's absolutely no this is going to happen.

And he's like, no, I'm telling you, they're not going to give it to a lady after a black guy.

And I was like, but the Nate Silva, if you, he's doing, he's crunching the numbers.

And

he still gets us all to do it every cycle, even though he's always wrong.

How?

I mean, he does it every time.

And I fall for it too.

And we're all like watching the 538 thing.

And he turns out to be spectacularly wrong, and we all forget two years later, four years later.

It's crazy how some people, and campaigns and elections people, I used to live in DC.

Yeah.

And campaigns and elections people,

you're not going to, I'm going to say some things that you're not going to be able to agree with, but you can just wink at me or pull an earlobe.

But like they were perhaps the worst people I met in D.C.

I think to some extent I had more respect for lobbyists because at least they were having a nice time.

But campaigns and election people, you could literally

literally lose every single time and somehow get a promotion in every new election cycle.

Yeah.

Well you get these consultants and they're like, I just love your vision, Roe.

I love that you're for Medicare for all and for free college.

We're going to change the world together.

And then three days later, how about doing a $25,000 video on this?

And I commissioned, you know, it's sort of, it's a very, very like, how do we make

money?

How?

Okay.

I didn't want to get into this till later, but how the fuck?

Can I curse in Congress?

You could curse.

Can you cuss in Congress?

I could curse, yeah, of course.

Who's the number one cusser in Congress?

Who's it?

Marjorie Taliban on our side?

Who's that?

Jimmy Gomez curses a lot.

Name names.

Jamal Bowman used to curse.

Jamal Bowman.

Bowman, yeah.

Rashida.

Rashida Tlaib.

Oh, really?

She's a big cusser.

I've been asking.

Name names.

Anyway,

how in 100 days did they manage to spend $2 billion?

That's crazy.

And then end up in debt.

What?

They had concerts.

Oh, they entertained America.

Well, no, but they didn't have enough money for Beyoncé to sing.

No, that was, she came and she gave the statement.

You know, that was just like, you know, it's like if you have a, people go to the Super Bowl and the players don't play, they just like make some statement.

I mean, it's a, you know, I think we don't realize that.

Oprah got paid and she's a billionaire.

Yeah, she claims it was for the production.

Do you have a million dollar production here?

I don't know how much does the production here cost.

Well, you're certainly not getting paid for this.

I'm just saying that.

I owe a lot of money around town, okay?

Yeah.

No,

but we'd have to pay you.

It's the other way around.

What are we talking about?

What are we talking about?

I think we kind of just watched an election cycle

where you had one guy with his weird family around him as an inner circle, and then kind of Bannon and then kind of Elon Musk, which you can't really discredit because he owns a massive social media platform.

But you had like this, like you have 12 guys on one side, and then you had to have had like

thousands and thousands of algorithm experts, PR consultants, like the amount of people that were just grifting.

How good I'm expert.

I didn't even know that was a thing.

Maybe there is.

I thought you were a tech.

But I'm sure they are.

I'm sure they.

$2 billion

is an insane amount of money.

It is.

It wasn't Granny's writing checks, right?

No, I mean, look, there were some of the grassroots folks.

There were a lot of billionaires.

There were more billionaires who funded our side than billionaires that funded their side.

Right.

I mean, that's the reality.

What we talked about, you know, get super PAC money out, get PAC money out, lobbyist money out.

I mean, we relied on a lot of these billionaires.

That's why it's not fully credible.

And

what interests, like, primarily did they align with?

It was a status quo, right?

I mean, the reality is that a lot of people...

Wall Street.

Wall Street tech, pharmaceutical, but it's not as clear.

It's just a sense that

we're not going to be for transformative economic change.

What does that mean?

Well, we're not going to be talking about raising the living wage.

We're not going to be talking about raising taxes on wealthy.

We're not going to be talking about Medicare for all.

We're not going to be talking about free public college.

We're not going to be talking about child care $10 a day.

We'll talk about let's have more startup businesses and let's have more entrepreneurship and let's have more opportunity.

In terms of electoral politics, like every single plan

just seems so like

just, I don't know, overly complicated.

I agree.

And the central thing, Trump said, you've been shafted.

Your life, you know, it's not working out that well right now.

And we were like, you've got joy.

We're doing great.

We're going to continue.

And people are like, no, I've been shafted.

You know, I don't have enough money.

I've got groceries cost too much, child care costs too much, healthcare costs too much.

I keep getting denied, denied, denied from health insurance, and all those good jobs left because we allowed for corporate offshoring.

And Trump then comes in with no real actual proposal.

Like his proposal

literally is like, okay, we're going to give these tax breaks to corporations and we're going to get Musk and Doge to stop these benefit payments because we've got a deficit.

But people don't pay attention as much to what he's going to do.

They just say, change this system.

I think in a simpler sense, like I'm a comedian, right?

And like during lockdown,

Trump was working the road.

I mean, he was doing stadiums, baby.

He killed Herman Cain at one of them.

But my boy was having fun.

He was crushing.

It was kind of like I was a comedian.

I was like, he's still allowed to work the road, and he's just crushing stadiums.

These are the rallies.

Yeah, the rallies.

And it's like, to some extent,

what you see is that

he makes people feel good.

He's entertaining.

I mean,

he makes his guys feel great.

Well, he's got a simple thing.

He says, it's not your fault.

You've been screwed.

There are all these things that have made your life

not work out as you want it to work out.

And it's the Mexicans.

And he blames the Indians, the Mexicans, the Chinese, it's all the immigration, and

it's all these companies.

And they screwed you, and you built America.

Roe's family didn't fight in the Revolutionary War, didn't fight in World War II,

didn't build the steel, didn't build the coal.

They just got here.

Roe was just born in 76.

But what about your grandparents?

They're the ones who fought the wars.

You're the ones who built the coal, built the steel.

So what did your family do World War II?

You were a regular Jaden Fondas?

Well, my grandfather was in jail with Gandhi, with Gandhi, alongside Gandhi, fighting for India's independence.

That's what moved my politics.

But my point is that he is appealing to this sense of people who have really been shafted.

Now, Bernie, and the reason we're, you know,

I was a co-chair of his campaign, Bernie got that.

He got that there is fundamental income inequality in this country.

There are a lot of people who don't have good-paying jobs.

And it's ridiculous that they can't get...

health care.

It's ridiculous they can't get child care.

It's ridiculous that we're not taxing these billionaires and millionaires.

And he said, okay, we're going to fix it in a hopeful way, in an aspirational way.

And Trump wants to fix it in a very dark, destructive way.

You grew up in Philadelphia?

Right outside Bucks County.

Bucks County?

Go Birds?

I got to admit, I became a 49ers fan, but my family's all good.

I'm fucking politician.

Well, no, if I was a politician.

If I was a fucking politician.

If I was a politician, I'd feel like, go birds, yay, birds, when I'm not really

still rooting for them as much.

But my brother and family do, so I'm going to go see them.

And how much respect do they have?

Oh, but the 49ers, because my district.

Come on, what are you talking about?

Remember who you are.

My wife says, never trust a guy who changes his sports allegiance.

I do not.

I will not.

Okay.

Yeah.

Wait, I thought, Roe, I thought you said after the last championship with Nick Foles that you were the guy that licked the poo-poo off the horse.

Nick Foles,

that was a good quarterback.

You don't seem like a Philly guy, though.

I'm not like a guy on the 700 level.

I went to the bottom.

Would you boo Santa Claus?

Would you throw batteries at Santa Claus?

No, but I was in the 700 levels.

You know the vet, right there?

The The 700 Club, Pat Robertson.

Well,

the vet used to be the old stadium before the new stadium.

And I've gone to it.

Nothing but respect for the vets.

And I've gone to the 700 level where basically, you know, they throw the beer cans and they boo.

And then I was like, how did I turn out like this?

I mean, maybe I should have gotten some more Philly spirit.

How did you turn out like that?

Oh, like a nerd politician.

Just like, you know, proper.

That's why I said I grew up in Bucks County.

Because if you tell a Philly person that you grew up in Philly, you actually grew up in Bucks County, like that is very insulting.

You're trying to be something you're not.

It's a different thing.

Yeah, go home.

You know, like Philly,

Bucks County is

a middle-class suburban.

Philly is.

What's in that mug right now?

Water, isn't it?

Sparkling water, yeah.

Water?

But I will, you know,

from Philly.

Water.

Wait, say it for real.

Water.

Water?

You're not from Philly at all.

Where are you from?

I don't know.

Are you AI or something?

I mean, you know, J.D.

Vance probably says, I'm from India, right?

That's like you have to.

I saw that last night on Twitter.

You know, they're like, the comments are like, what is Rokana?

Deport him.

Who is he?

What is a Rokana?

That's, you know, like the Twitter.

You don't follow your Twitter much?

I saw it last night.

Yeah.

It's kind of good for us, you know that.

What is?

Because it's been ju, ju, ju this last year.

Now you guys are

Vivek.

Vivek ran a little interference interference for us,

for the Jews.

Well, he had to realize that.

Do you feel like Vivek's embarrassing for you like Netanyahu is for me?

He was, look, I debated big shots.

I'm going to tell you, when you're an Indian-American guy politician who's an immigrant, you probably don't want to insult people who've been born in America, white Americans.

Like, it's just dumb what he did.

Like, I just, I don't understand what he was thinking.

Well, the tweet was funny, bro.

It was dumb.

No, no, no.

Come on, bro.

He was basically like...

He shouted out Steve Urkel.

Did he shout out Steve Urkel?

I forgot that.

The tweet was like, we used to have Bob Hope, Johnny Cash, Steve Jobs, Steve Urkel.

You know what the funny thing is?

Now we have no hope, no jobs, no cash, and no, and Stefan Urkell,

the sexy one.

The thing I would ask him if I'd ask him was like, you know,

you're upholding like this

Indian immigrant experience.

Have you been to India?

Because in India, they're obsessed with Bollywood and cricket.

It's not like they're all studying math.

They've got movies and cricket.

So it's this idea that...

They're obsessed with Pakistan, too.

They are obsessed with Pakistan, unfortunately.

Yeah, yeah.

Are you Hindu?

I am Hindu.

Yeah, yeah.

I am Hindu.

What do you make of

old Modi over there?

Is it Meet the Press or something?

Listen, I'm a guy who once pooped my pants on a podcast.

I know who Modi is.

I don't like his politics.

I don't like it.

You You know, I am,

you know, I talked about my grandfather.

He was part of India when it was founded with Gandhi and Nehru.

It was much more pluralistic.

You know, you were Hindu, you were Jewish.

Well, I was African, so old Gandhi spent a lot of time.

And that inspired Mandela, some of his efforts to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But the point is now, Modi, I mean, Modi's done some things fine for the country, but he's too aligned with a Hindu nationalism in India that I just don't think is the right approach.

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So you're an attorney, Chicago.

Yeah.

And then you campaigned for Obama.

Yeah.

And then you were appointed in 09 by Barack Obama.

I mean, I want to exaggerate Kent Payroll.

He was running for the state Senate.

I knocked on a few doors for him back then.

Yeah, yeah.

He was running against Alan Keyes, right?

That was the Senate.

When I was a student in Chicago in 96, he was running for the state Senate, and I knocked on...

Is it Blagoevich's former seat or something?

Well, the Senate seat was,

this is what I worked on.

He was running for the state Senate, state legislature, in 1996.

How much interaction did you have with the former President Obama?

As an appointee, as an appointment,

none, because I was like a deputy assistant secretary of Congress, which is like, you know, funny, but not like, come on.

Don't shit on it.

You're a deputy assistant assistant.

The longer your title in DC, the less important you are.

Were your parents like, I can't believe you're the only deputy assistant to

what is it?

Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce.

Sounds nice to me.

Yeah, but

then after I got to Congress, probably now is more a couple times a year.

A couple times a year.

Yeah.

And what's his vibe?

He's very cerebral.

He's

calm.

Yeah.

He's got a sarcastic sense of humor.

Really?

And he's relaxed.

You know, I mean, he's not, he's not, you know, he's no longer in the whole zone.

Okay, and I want to mention this.

You were co-chair of Bernie's campaign in 2020, right?

It seems like our former president,

if you think about everything that's happened since he was president, it's been now the third

presidential election since he's left office, that

his influence on that primary was pretty much, it was that, and now he's making Netflix.

Well, I mean,

come on.

Come on, bro.

I didn't agree.

Look, I didn't agree.

I don't know what his role was, but certainly I didn't agree with people coordinating to drop out of the primary, but Buddha Jigndora said.

So who was it?

I mean, I don't know if it was Pelosi or I don't know who there was.

There were certainly powers that be in the Democratic primary, DNC.

You can't take the shot.

Well, I.

You're still with the boys.

With who?

With Bernie?

You're still in the world.

But you blame him?

You don't blame

all the other things that happened, the DNC.

They basically cut deals, Biden's team,

with these other candidates to get them out of the race.

And they all dropped.

They all endorsed.

How did that feel?

Terrible.

I mean, it felt like it was taken from us.

They fucked us.

They did.

I mean, look, it never has happened that someone in modern times wins these early states, New Hampshire, Iowa, Nevada, and loses.

I mean, it's just usually it's like you're off to the races.

And I think Bernie would have won in 2020.

I'm not sure, to be honest, whether he would have won as decisively as Biden, but he would have won.

Yeah, he would have won Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.

Whether he would have won Georgia and Arizona, it's an open question, but he would have won.

And had he won, we would have fought for a living wage, $15 wage.

You know, Bernie and I called for firing the parliamentarian to get that wage increased.

We didn't get the wage increase.

As you said, that felt terrible in 2020.

You were the co-chair of this campaign.

Yeah.

It felt like collusion.

You stayed in the government, right?

That was when I stayed in the party.

I said I supported Biden.

Like, this feels like the most beaten down Americans have ever been.

And most people feel like

they don't most people don't like the fucking government.

Sorry.

That's right.

Right?

Yeah.

And like, so, you know, simple says,

why do you want to be in the government?

No,

this is our real problem.

No, but you as a guy.

I'm telling you, because the only solution to it is to get the government to work.

Because you've got massive, massive

inequality

in income.

The countries that I grew up in, in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, I grew up in the 80s, that my parents came through, the sense that everyone is going to have a real shot, that there's a dynamism.

You know, I grew up on a street where you had HVAC technicians, electricians, nurses.

How do we build that?

And the only way to build that for everyone in every place is to have a government that works, that's good.

And yet we've got this problem that you basically have an economic aristocracy.

You've got a bunch of people, many in my district.

They think that they're entitled to rule.

They think that they know better.

They're the smartest.

They're going to figure things out.

All the wealth is piling up there.

there, $12 trillion in my district, Apple, Google, Nvidia, Tesla.

And

the only protection, the only way that we actually don't just let them dictate the rules and make all the wealth is to have an effective government.

And yet you've got 70, 80% of Americans saying, we don't want government.

And so how, this is the central problem.

It's not like, what's our message or who do we run?

Our central problem is how do we transform the economic opportunity in place for an American when we can't convince Americans about government?

And there are a couple of things I think, this is why it was so much for Bernie.

Bernie was basically saying he was making the case for government in the best way that someone has since FDR.

And he was saying that given this economic aristocracy where you have this wealth and power coming together in campaign finance, the only shot we have is a people-centered movement.

But if you go to the 2020 campaign, they did kind of try to incorporate more of the

multiracial aspect or yeah.

Not that the what's it called?

The

what's the word?

Intersectional.

Intersectionality into his campaign.

I think Bernie kind of got confused and lost inside of that.

He was like, my name is Bernie Sanders, like them, my pronouns, like,

I'm a pansexual, of course.

Jane and I are getting into pansexuality.

I don't know what this means, but I've never listened to one song, song, but

you do a pretty good Bernie impression.

Can you tell them that?

I will tell them that.

I will tell them that.

I want to know, I think this is an interesting question that you're never asked, but like, you're in Congress, right?

Right.

You have a cafeteria on Congress?

We do.

It's like the Longworth Cafe.

What's your go-to in the cafeteria?

I would get

tacos.

They got a good taco?

They have a decent taco.

You know where they have a good taco bowl?

Trump Tower, apparently.

Do you go in there?

Is there a poker night?

I don't do poker night.

I'm sure there are.

Do you play basketball?

I do, but not with people in Congress now.

Really?

No.

Like

with my family when like I've ordered, but I'll go after the business.

You only play against Indians.

I only play against Jews.

Seriously, as a matter of the tenacity on display when it's an all-Jewish basketball game,

the skill level could not be lower, but the passion, I can't explain it.

We play like Thanksgiving.

It's a family tradition.

We all go to like play basketball.

You've never hooped with Bernie?

I have not hooped with Bernie.

I imagine it's just the sharpest elbows.

I Bernie's pretty good.

The sharpest movie.

Bernie's pretty good, actually.

Who are your boys?

Jonathan Jackson.

You go to the bar with him?

Yeah, I mean, we'll have a drink here.

Yeah.

You have Movie Night Ever, Congress?

These are stupid questions.

I don't know why these aren't on the card.

You know, the movies they have.

It's like Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan.

Oh, they made a movie, right?

They made a movie of Reagan.

So they're the movies.

Did they show that?

They showed that.

Oh, because the Republicans are in charge, they get to pick the movies?

I mean, you could have any movie.

So if the Democrats, wait, so there's an FC.

So when Pelosi was speaker, she got to choose like the birdcage and stuff.

And they pick what?

Any memory, if you could get the actor, director, I mean, or sometimes they'll have these things where they'll bring them in for a movie showing.

But the last one they did was Reagan.

What's it like being in Congress?

We do do stuff.

What's your day?

We go vote.

You know, that's the basic first.

Yeah, but no one shows up.

We watch C-SPAN.

It's empty.

Well,

they don't show up when you're making speeches onto the.

It's very rude.

They don't show up, but they show up, the bells go off.

It's kind of like school.

You know, a lot of being in Congress actually is just having a voice and speaking out.

And so.

That sounds like a bullshit.

No, I mean, it's.

What does it mean?

Like, you have to, you're surrounded by some of these people are

the dregs of humanity.

Right.

You know, know?

In these marble halls.

You see a guy walking down the hall, you're like, oh, that guy's been accused of like potentially sleeping with a minor.

Like,

how do you like function in like a world of scoundrels?

You know what I mean?

How do you like.

I mean, the nation is a nation.

No, no, no, come on.

I mean, it's...

How do you like function in that world and not like,

you know, you're also a politician.

You have to play a game, right?

Yeah.

You have to make deals.

You have to co-sponsor legislation.

You have to find Republican parties.

Well, there are two ways you could do it about it.

You could go about it being, okay, I'm not going to work with anyone who doesn't meet a certain moral threshold.

That hasn't been my approach.

My approach has been, I want to go there and get stuff done for people

and pass my bills.

And so

they were elected and I...

I will work to see how I can get them to support it.

I mean, that's, you know, that's

the reality is you don't get people who are pure who are coming into these positions.

Well, you got you.

Yeah, I'm not pure.

You're not pure?

Come on, how can you be pure?

You don't got demons?

You know, Bernie may be the closest to being pure, but even Bernie's got, you know, but Bernie, but Bernie, you know, Bernie really

has a very, very high standard that he sat.

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You're a Democrat, and you guys are just fucking getting your asses kicked right now.

We did this election.

It doesn't seem like there's a cohesive message that's being employed against Trump right now.

Well, I think the message, I agree with you, for two months or so there was it, but I think the message now is you can't just be Elon Musk and stop all payments to people who need it for Social Security and Medicare and childcare, and that the Democrats are going to make sure that they don't cut all these benefits.

How is it possible that someone that hasn't been vetted by Congress, someone that, I mean, it's a new department of the executive branch.

How is it possible that

it seems kind of like the executive power has just mushroomed at this point, right?

Like how can Congress provide a check on that?

Well, Congress can provide a check on it by insisting that they can't make any cuts unless they come to Congress.

And we can do that by not giving Trump a increase in the debt ceiling or not helping fund what he wants to fund.

But we've got to assert our power.

We've got to be willing to say that, look, we're not going to vote for the funding you want or the debt ceiling increase.

But what power do you guys have now that you're kind of out of power?

Well, they still need our votes for the debt ceiling because the Republicans never vote for increasing the debt ceiling.

Yeah, yeah.

But let's say he's cutting all these programs so that

he's saving money by like, I don't know, now we're going to get screws in our cans of tuna and planes are going to collide into each other.

Is it just going to take like

a slapstick level catastrophe, like nuclear waste like pouring into streets in order to stop this?

Well, I hope not.

I feel like they're going to fuck up so badly at some point.

You know, I mean, I certainly hope that it doesn't come to that.

But I think what's going to trigger people also is if their benefits start to get cut, if they don't get a Social Security check, don't get a Medicaid check, don't get a check for their kids' education.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but half the federal budget is the military.

Has he indicated that they're willing to go in and actually

in a tangible sense?

No, not in a tangible sense.

They got into all the Treasury stuff.

They haven't gotten into the Pentagon stuff.

But

the point is that I

told Elon that I would be willing to work with him on Pentagon Cuts.

Bernie even said that, but that wasn't where he focused.

He's focused on U.S.

aid, which is less than 0.1% of the entire federal budget.

The defense is 56%.

What's your relationship like with Mr.

Musk?

Not good these days, but it used to be cordial.

Is it Mr.

Musk, or is he now he's the grand poo-bah of what is it?

I don't know what he's doing.

I don't know his title.

He's become the czar of.

When did you first meet this gentleman?

2010 or 11, around the time.

And you were at Burning Man with him?

No.

I was not at Burning Man with him.

Yeah, yeah.

I just sent him a copy of my first book.

And he blurred.

And what was the response?

Whether he read it or not, I don't know, but he gave me a good blurb.

He said, ah, this is good.

We need more American manufacturing in America.

You think he didn't read it?

I mean, I don't know.

He's a smart guy.

I mean, so he may have read it.

Is he a smart guy?

Who the fuck is this guy?

He's a smart guy.

I mean, I.

Is he a smart guy?

Yeah, like once I had asked him, hey, Elon, what do you think of nuclear energy?

He said, yeah, it's a great idea.

It's called the sun.

We should capture it.

I mean, he's quick on his feet.

That's smart.

You would have thought of it?

Yeah, what do you mean?

Like, yeah, solar energy?

What do you mean?

The connection that's in nuclear energy?

Maybe.

The sun has a lot of fire in it.

That's like what?

Neil deGrasse-Tyson level.

No, I mean,

you're in an interesting position right now.

That's one way way of saying it.

Because your district is Silicon Valley, right?

Okay?

And there's been a realignment in tech, like, to the right, right?

We saw that

to the right, yeah.

A move.

I mean, they're still 70% Democrats, but it used to be 95% Democrats, so people feel they're hearing the 25%.

The thing that drives me nuts about these people, and you're really not going to agree with me on this because you can't, and you shouldn't agree with me.

But these are some of the biggest dildos in American society.

How do you define dildos?

They're people that understand

the, they're capable of understanding the flaws and inefficiencies and the ills of society.

Correct.

But they have the ego that says that only I, a genius, philosopher, king, am the one that...

They love my speech.

Make my speech go viral.

Everyone needs to listen to my FDO speech.

I call it the aristocracy of talent, which this is what they believe.

I have a line in there saying that they even believe that they want to separate the distinction between man and God.

They want to get rid of immortality, which is true.

They're trying to make us immortal.

I mean, they really have this complex that they are entitled to rule.

Let me Steve banned you, Ro.

Let me see.

I'll write jokes for you.

That would be good.

You can give your like, this is going to be your city on the hill speech.

Silicon Valley are some of the biggest dildos in society.

Okay.

It seems to me as if most of those companies don't ever make any freaking money, right?

It seems like there's all these VC

old guys that get hoodwinked into giving an app that makes no, like Theranos is a perfect example of a person.

Theranos obviously was a fraud, but...

Oh, it was a fraud.

I thought it was a great idea.

But, you know, I mean, like.

Does Uber actually make money?

I don't know if Uber does.

They don't pay the lawsuit.

I think it's money.

Is it money laundering for the Saudis?

They don't pay the workers.

But in fairness, I mean, do you have an iPhone or a Samsung?

Don't do this crap.

Do you use Google?

Oh, are you a socialist?

So why do you have a cell phone?

No, no, I'm not saying that.

What are you, freaking Marjorie Taylor Greene?

I'm saying those things are actually used.

You know, get Amazon packages.

So it's not like they aren't.

No, no, that's the one guy that makes sense.

Bezos makes sense.

People have phones.

You know, they use the phones.

Bezos makes sense.

Any Google search.

People do Google searches.

Apple makes money.

Bezos,

what?

Okay.

Anytime I want any crap, I get it.

It's my house tomorrow.

He reinvented the supply chain.

I don't know what about Google search.

And he's also still a Miami guy.

You got the muscles and stuff.

Bezos is like in a simple sense, it's like if you're in the old West and there's a general store, and then the Sears catalog comes, they're like, it's going to destroy the general stores.

I mean, that's what Amazon's technically done.

Plus,

your whole thing is on YouTube.

You're a Google guy.

Google makes money.

Yeah.

There's three companies that that make money.

No, we're just talking about Apple, Google, Amazon, and now Nvidia, because you need all the chips, right?

Yeah, I know exactly what the NVIDIA is.

I know what that is.

I love NVIDIA's.

I watch them all the time.

And Microsoft, you need the stuff to be somewhere in the servers.

Windows 98 for an occasional incredible.

No, no, but it's like what this freaking Musk.

Is it just that he posts the lamest memes for Reddit guys, right?

And basically pumped a stock price of a company that made four cars that explode constantly and the new one is just

obviously it's he's your best friend.

You don't have to talk shit about him.

Don't be a dick.

He called you a dick?

Yes.

You say, so say what he is.

Use my line.

Which is, look at the cat.

Dildo.

Just say,

say he's a dildo.

No, okay.

He calls me a dick.

I call him a dildo.

I don't know if that's a fully symmetrical word.

You're not, you're a real human penis.

This guy is a plastic.

Okay, we're getting off.

Do you think that the Democratic Party lost faith in the electorate by

their constant assurance that Joseph Robinette Biden's intellectual faculties were, there was nothing wrong?

Yeah, I think we, I think, yes.

I mean, not that I think he was capable of still being president, but I think we had to acknowledge that there was a decline.

When that debate happened,

I just felt so sad for America, right?

It was like the rest of the world was watching it.

We were being so embarrassing.

Getting to that point,

right, like, as a party, like,

just indicates that there is...

What is the DNC?

And there's no one actually at the wheel right now.

But, like, if you think about it this way, in 2016,

Ryan's Priebus lost control of the GOP, but there was still a power structure, right?

The question is, what the hell is the DNC at this point?

Well, it's a new guy now, Ken Martin.

He was a Minnesota State Party chair, but he's not going to define the party.

The party is going to be defined based on

where the fight is for: are we going to be a progressive party or not?

Are we going to stand up for Medicare for all of us?

You just saw Jamal Bowman

get executed for.

but I look, I think that for your listeners and stuff, because

we are very, very close to having like a progressive takeover of the Democratic Party.

I mean, Bernie was fighting uphill.

He was fighting all of the establishment forces, and he still almost won.

And now we're

the game plan is next to make sure that we have, just like you had Bill Clinton, you have 20 years of these centrist corporate Democrats, to make sure you have 20 years of progressive Democrats.

They have money.

Who?

The Centrists.

The Centrists have the money.

The Centrists have name ID.

So, how do you beat money?

You need a progressive base energized and mobilized, just like they were with Bernie, but they're more off us now.

I mean, it's, you know, but the next presidential election will be 2028.

That's eight years from when Bernie ran.

That means there are

a lot more people who can be part of the progressive base.

And Bernie is only going to be 98 years old.

I'm convinced.

If Bernie was 10 years younger, he'd be prisoner of the United States in 2028.

I have no doubt about it.

Because I think...

Well, what about me?

You play.

And you've got the comedian thing going for you, because people kind of want an outsider.

Maybe, okay, I'll do VP, Stephen A.

Smith, president.

We've got to make Stephen, you've got to get him to be progressive.

The slogan is, that is preposterous.

I like Stephen.

There was a moment in 2016 where I knew Trump was for real, right?

Where I think

Lying Ted or Little Marco.

Do you remember how funny that show was?

I mean, it was the best show, the Republican primary.

Unreal, these people.

And he was being so mean to all of them.

He was like, he was just being like,

oh, look at this loser over here.

He told Jed that his dad killed

Kennedy and did 9-11.

Okay.

He said,

Lying Ted said,

or Little Marco, I love the nicknames.

Do you have a nickname?

Has he given you one?

No.

Slow row or something?

I don't know.

Whatever.

He said, they said,

how can we trust Donald when he gave money to Hillary Clinton?

And Trump goes, yeah,

of course I did.

I'm rich.

I give money to everyone.

It was a moment.

He's like, everyone, here's how it works.

It was a moment where

everyone knows that's true.

But no one's willing to say it.

And even though he's a liar, right?

It was a moment where we were like, oh, this guy's actually saying the thing we know is all true.

So I'm going to give you an opportunity.

okay okay this is like how the fuck

do you really think you can fix this

legitimately it seems

yeah it seems so broken I'll tell you why I do

for two reasons

one because Trump is gonna break this thing so much he's gonna fuck up so bad and it's gonna be such a moment of crisis that something new can emerge honestly if Harris had won I think, you know, obviously I worked really hard to see that happen, but to have big progressive change would have probably been harder because it would just kind of be more status quo.

Here, we're really going, Trump's really breaking everything down, and people are going to be desperate for something new.

Now, maybe that new will be like J.D.

Vance's,

you know,

we own the Libs politics.

I don't.

Or it could be something progressive and bold.

I mean, so it's going to be a moment.

The second reason is that Bernie Sanders did 90% of the work.

You know, the movement he built in 2020 got to like the top of the mountaintop and then they cut his legs from him after South Carolina.

So everyone's like forgotten how close he came.

And we're going to be four to six, you know, six years later now in 2026.

And so the movement is there.

to bring real change.

And they want, what the establishment wants is people listening to your show to think ah it's not possible it's not change can't happen but if that movement exists we're gonna have for the next 20 years progressives actually winning in the Democratic primary parties and change is possible I just in a very cold calculated way it's it's it's it's different and this is where you know I we may disagree I have a lot I admire Obama but Obama was running in 20 2008 it was before any of the progressive movement it was he couldn't do a lot of the change you can't no politician can bring the change if the movement and the people aren't there.

The movement and the people there are there.

So now

what we need is just a politician that's going to be like, I'm not going to fight the movement.

I'm going to try to do what the movement wants.

But does the movement exist?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it needs to be sparked.

You know, the standard, the sense we're going to have as a party, I don't know what we're going to go.

The one way, and I don't want to mention names, the one thing will be like, let's figure out how do we have like the younger, more charismatic Joe Biden lead us, you know, safe, someone who's going to get not

rattle too many people.

And maybe we'll go that way.

And then we'll have more of the same status quo, but we won't be like firing FBI agents and we won't be stopping the Department of Education from funding things.

So it'll be better than Donald Trump, but it's going to be, people are still going to be upset.

And what I'm going to say, remind people is the establishment is

one for four in the last national elections.

Hillary Clinton lost, Joe Biden won, then Joe Biden lost, and Kamala Harris lost in 2024.

They both had a, it's one for four.

That's not a great track record.

And I wish, I honestly wish Bernie Sanders was 10 to 15 years younger, because I think it would be a no-brainer he'd be president.

But given

that that's not the case, we're going to have to

build that movement again, but it exists.

And you're going to get Bernie on the show?

I'm going to try.

I'm going to try.

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