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You and Skiop are the only smart people.

How's he doing you checking on?

I've not really he and I it's a listen is wrong, but that amount one and a half million dollars Like for for someone to say no, I won't have sex with you for a million and a half dollars He's got it that really has to hurt your feelings Skip must be so like he's like what's I'm that repulsive a million would like okay Would you have sex with your wife is here?

I'm sure she would say go for a million and a half dollars. Would you let Skip crack

I'm sorry I'm sorry would you tell him if it was on the table still if skip was like all right Nick you're second your rank second would you be like yeah

he would get you something so nice

a million and a half dollars

I would let him do whatever he wants to be you're not gonna be gay the rest I'd be like it doesn't make you gay it's me sorry I'm on a rant right now and I should be doing this on uh Fox Sports One

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Thank you. My guest this week is sports broadcaster and host of First Things First on FS1 The Goat, Nick Wright.

For me, this is a big opportunity, both a debut and also a greatest hits album. I've been saving up these takes for 38 years and my whole life.
And here I am to finally unleash them.

So for a few short hours, I got to feel like some of my heroes, like, you know, Ski up or Unk or Big Perk

or, you know,

Ryan Rasillo,

Cousin Sal,

Keith Oberman,

yeah, Chuck Diesel,

Roy Keene,

Jimmy Johnson, Pat McAfee, and, you know,

and let's not forget Joe Rogan, Chris Collinsworth, Doris Burke,

girl, Colin Cowherd, pause,

Dan Patrick, Jimmy the Greek, Mike Francesa, Malika Andrews, Scott Van Pel, Matt Barnes, oh, Steven, Matt Barnes, Steven Jackson, all the smoke. You know, the list.
The list obviously goes on.

Osho Sinko, Travis Kelsey, the fat brother.

Thierry Henry.

you got Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young, Mace, Cam,

Hassan Picare,

Stav,

Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Gus Johnson,

Harry Carey,

Marv Albert,

Kenny the Jet Smith, of course,

Ernie,

Ernie E.J. Johnson, you know, the voice of Velvet.
I mean, mean, the guys, I mean, I could go, I mean, I could go on forever, you know.

Like John Madden, Brent Musberger, you know, I could keep going to Chick Chick Hearn, Vin Scully, Dick Emberg, Dick Bergeron, Dick Vital,

Dick Button,

Dick Ebersoll,

fuck, but there was a

Dick Trickle,

You know.

Dick Stockton. So guys, this is a big one for me.
And in my opinion, it's my favorite episode I've ever done. I killed Nick Wright.
I end his career. I ethered him, but he's still a good guy.

And I liked him a lot. And I feel like we're friends now.
And I don't know. Maybe we do a podcast together.
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It's kind of, I don't know if it's what I'm best at. I used to,

if you'd asked me 20 years ago what my plan was,

President of the United States. No, but the idea was to

get a big enough name by doing sports that I could. It was basically Olbermann's career path.

Become a big enough name doing sports that I could then do politics.

But I've

I think we've started already, right, Thomas? Yeah, you gotta go. Yeah, really? Okay, great.
We're all kind of exhausted right now. This is the third interview in three days.
Oh, who is that?

And then we have the mayor. And then the mayor is coming on.
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I'm MSM now, dude.
I'm made. Mainstream, yeah.
Yeah, crossed over. I'm going to bring out

a long way from the Come Town podcast. No, it's the same thing.

But it's a smart rebrand. It's like two chains.
It's not deliberate at all.

Titty Boy? Yeah, exactly. I think Titty Boy's coming on.

Oh, really? Are you a big Tech Nine head? Yeah.

He's the guy of your city. Yeah, I like him a lot.
And he's a really good dude. Is he, oh, you know him

from the celebrity Kansas City city? Well, yeah, I mean, there's very...

There's not a ton of folks that are born and raised Kansas Cityans with like national. There's a bunch of people in the comedy world.
Really? Stone Street. That never moves.
Rutt. Well, I don't know.

No, I think they moved, but I mean, they're born and raised there. Like Paul Rudd, Stone Street, John Hamm.
Are you Casey Kay or Casey? Casey Moe. Casey Moe.
Yeah.

Almost everyone you'd meet is Casey Moe. Do you fuck with Case K?

Yeah. It's more posh, right? No, it's the opposite.
Oh, yeah. So here's, so this is what's going to.
Oh, I wouldn't. Kansas City, Kansas is a really tough area.

Because to me, it all sounds terrible.

It sounds, I feel like they're all eating meat and just 900 pounds.

Wow. You went Kansas City to Houston?

I went Kansas City to Houston, LA to New York. How are you so slim? You're so trim.

You went to some big place. I went to some big place.

I mean, you went to the gastric bypass capital of America. Houston is.
Houston, yeah, yeah. Is that a fact? I watched 600-pound life

when ball is among. Yeah, they're always, and yeah, the guy's always like, please stop eating.
And then they have to go home and they just can't, they can't suck it. They can't suck.

But yeah, so the... Sorry.
No, you're fine.

But no, the reason you thought Kansas City, Kansas, more posh is, I don't know if anyone cares about this. There's a road in Kansas City, literally called State Line Road.

That's exactly what it sounds like. That sounds awesome.
And

the Kansas, like, so if you are in KC Mo and you cross over into Kansas, it's mostly suburbs and stuff. But that's not Kansas City, Kansas.
That's like places called Lee Wood and Overland Park.

And so there's a part like... So the burbs in Kansas are nice.
Very nice.

And fun fact, the state of Kansas, people are like, why is Kansas City in Missouri? Because the state of Kansas was named after the city of Kansas City.

Kansas City, Missouri exists. It's kind of pathetic.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. They named the whole state after us.

Yeah, now they're trying to take the Chiefs and the Royals. They're trying to get the Chiefs and the Royals to move across state line.
Yeah. Be a travesty.
To go to K. To go to K-State.

So there's local rivalries there? Oh, you all fuck with the other guys?

You all put on for Pat, though. Of course.
Yes.

That's where you make peace. Well, the Chiefs and Royals are everyone's, but a lot of those folks went to local colleges.
So MU, KU, and K-State are like the local rivalries. Jayhawks.
KU Jayhawks.

Yeah. You're a ball knower.

I love ball.

Football or basketball?

At this point, basketball, kind of

tuck game, kind of, I cried because I'm a Raiders fan.

And it wasn't fair. And I remember.
Remember the same age? You're literally. You're 18.
You're 42. 41, but you're.
41. Sorry.
I know.

You don't look a day over.

But yeah, I thought it was really cute. Like the, you were like a kid, the kid, the Casey kid.

Yeah, what were you called?

Nick, Nick. You mean when I called into the radio? Casey's kid.
Nick the Kid. I called into all the Chiefs post games.
And you yell about Marty Schottenheimer and Andre Risen. Yeah, that's right.

Andre Risen and Mennonite ones. We hate each other.

Because you're a Raiders fan. Yeah, you guys.
I'm not anymore. I'm a whole decades.

I literally grew up in Vegas, too. I was born in LA and then grew up in Vegas.

Very similar to my dad. When they moved to Vegas,

I stopped being a fan. It's just not real.

Half of the stadium is traveling fans because they want to go get fucked up. Yeah, same with those LAs and same with Chargers.

That's not an LA team. If you talk to

the Mexicans in LA, they're still loyal to the Raiders. Yes.
A hundred. They're the most loyal people in the world.

Well, the Raiders are like one of the biggest national brands. In large part,

in Mexico, too. Yes, that's what I was going to say.
And their Latin fan base is crazy. It's Dallas and the Raiders.
Yeah. Yeah.
America's team.

They should kind of like stop liking the Cowboys then, if it's America's team. We've been pretty mean to Mexico for a while.

You know, I hadn't thought about that. The moral conundrum of being a Hispanic Cowboys fan.
It's strange. Yeah, and honestly, you know, they should probably just embrace the Kansas City Chiefs.

I know a guy who has a...

He used to help out with the show. He has a tattoo on his ass, and it's a Dallas Cowboys star and a Palestine flag.
And I was like, that is the only one in the world. That is the only one.

And it's on his ass. Why'd you fire him? I didn't fire him.
No, he was like a freelance kind of guy. Why didn't you bring him back?

I don't know. He lives in Jersey.
He's a good guy. I like him a lot.
He's a documentarian.

He's a documentarian with a Cowboys tattoo on his ass? No, he's not showing the people in the documentary.

No, I got that, but it just seems like a highbrow job.

And maybe a. I don't know.
You're saying he's stupid? No, I'm not saying he's stupid. A Jersey Cowboys fan, that has to be the worst kind of guy.
Well, so I so I agree, and I also now,

when people

meet people and they don't know me and they're like, oh, you know, who's your team? Uh-huh. I have to preface it with,

well, I'm born and raised in Kansas City. Or else they'll think of me like, oh, you're a Chiefs fan living in New York.
You're just a front runner.

No one does that, though, even though you guys are good. No one does it.
You know that. You know that.
Well, we, we, they're just not, I don't know.

We took on, you know, the all of the Swift, Taylor Swift fans. Yeah.
Yeah. So the.
Now you have to pretend it's not baby music? music.

You have to

love Shake It Off. No, you want to see some guy get his head knocked off.
You're not there for fucking Shake It Off.

I wish I could talk about this stuff on TV. Why don't you? I'm on the I do long-form

Jewish style

late night talk. I don't know what the fuck this is.
The cute thing about

the kid radio station.

I was a very precocious kid myself. And when I was four, I think, I was at a party, like a parents' party with my parents, and I would talk to parents, yeah, and they were

people from the Raiders' front office, and uh, I like was yelling at them, like badgering them that they had a fiery art show.

So, I think I heard my dad say it, you know, when I was

10,

I happened to

like

I was somewhere, and

my

one of my mom's friends said, Hey, that guy is the president of the Miami Dolphins.

And I walked. I think Palinga or no, I think it was, I think it, I don't remember.
What is it? Wayne Huisinga, I think who it was at the time.

And

I walked over to him and I was like, I just want to let you know, hiring Jimmy Johnson's the greatest move you've ever made. Fuck it, of course.
Right.

And so, yeah, so it's very similar to. Yeah, at 10, you're like, yo, he's leaving the Canes and he's coming to the the Big League.

Well, no, he had just left the Cowboys. Oh, he came after.
That's right. Yeah,

the Kings Cowboys. Yeah, once Jerry and him fell out.
Dude, your wife likes these kind of cars. You have to be the most bored, unless you like it.

How boring is it?

When my girlfriend says, oh, did your team lose? And I have to be like, did my team lose? And I'm like, my feelings are hurt because I care about men with great bodies.

I realized as an adult that we shouldn't be wearing wearing jerseys. No, of course.
I can't be wearing a man's name on my shit on my jersey. Yeah, I think there is.

We came up with rules actually in the office. Oh, can I hear them?

If you're sorry, if you're white,

not past 13.

If you're black, like, do your thing.

And if you're, no, and if you're Mexican, you know, come on, you're the real.

So I. Even if a white guy can't wear a jersey past 13.

Here is the, there are, to me, a couple exceptions.

I'm not a hockey fan.

I think hockey sweaters

just like look like an awesome

outfit almost.

And I think

baseball jerseys, two baseball games.

I never, I never, when my team's playing, I can't wear the jersey. I'm very superstitious.
Clearly. I can't touch the jersey, in fact.
Really? Yeah, and I'm primarily at this point into soccer.

Who's your team? Who's your Arsenal team? Oh, I was going to... Just because they're in first place? No.

It's been 20 years of hell. Well, I mean,

yeah, but right now you're a fan there in first place. No, you're...

I'm just fucking.

It's really.

My buddy...

This is going to sound funny. It means so much, and it's ridiculous.
So our...

The guy who does stats for the TV show, this great kid named Josh. He's a die-hard Arsenal fan.

yeah yeah he doesn't know like me the I mean I think he probably knows a lot the mayor knows ball the the mayor of New York City

Zora oh I would buy that I met him like before the election and we were talking about our worst most humiliating losses over the years for Arsenal yeah is his team Arsenal yeah oh okay he knows the I play I play cards with a guy who is come on you can't be talking about that what cards dude why can't I be talking about cards it's a biggest

you're gonna get in trouble

I don't want to see you locked up. I play in legal games.

What do you mean, legal games? So, this is what nobody understands about poker. If all of us in this room agreed to play in a card game, we could play for $10 a man.

But you don't want to play with us? You want to play with cool guys like movies? I understand, but just hear me out. Or a million dollars a man, and that's totally legal.

I play you in a million dollars. Yeah.
Okay, let's do it.

I'm going to vanquish you on sports takes after this.

Okay, but no, the reason I was saying it, this guy, he's a Die sports fan who lives in New York City, has the two best courtside Knicks seats in the building, right next to Mike Brown now, not Thibodeau, and has a box at Arsenal that he just goes to for every home game.

The fuck, bro. Yeah.

I should introduce you to that. This guy, I don't even like him, but he just knows at the same level, and we talk every day about this.

The amount that I care, like, if my girlfriend knew, she would like, she would leave me.

Are you in a bad mood all week if they lose?

What happens is this: you get the games in the morning, right?

And so it's like a Saturday morning, you're a little bit hungover, your girlfriend's still in bed, and you go to the living room, and you're sitting there, and they just

ruin you before your weekend starts. So

the saying is, it's the hope that kills you. So, yeah,

listen, I've been obviously the Chiefs have been very good the last half decade. This year's been tough.
Does it feel worse and worse each time? Yes. It doesn't feel each chip, each chip

doesn't hit it as heavy, right?

Well, yeah, nothing will ever match the first one.

But being a football fan and having your team lose, it doesn't ruin your weekend, but like we're doing this on a Friday.

Yesterday was the first day that I was not in a depression based on the Chiefs-Broncos game.

Who's the coolest guy on the Chiefs? The coolest guy on the Chiefs?

I mean,

I'm buddies with Patrick, so I would say him.

Travis certainly had that mantle. Travis has, you know, Travis has become so famous, he has to be kind of more careful now.
Yeah, yeah, he fell off. Yeah.
No, I didn't say he fell off.

I think I agree. I didn't say that this guy fell off.
I didn't say he fell off. He asked me.
By far, the coolest guy on your team is Andy. Well, he's not on the team, but yes.

Yeah, but he's the coolest guy in that vicinity. Everyone else is a real Dorcas.

I mean it. Chris Jones, pretty cool.
I saw him at a restaurant and it's one of the most massive people I've ever seen in my entire life. Did you see him run the 40 at the Combine? No,

not at a restaurant with my parents. I understand, but this is funny for you.
Oh, no, Penis fell out. There you go.
Yeah, yeah. I never miss a Penis sports thing.
I imagine that.

When Braun's dick came out,

everyone relaxed. Everyone was chill about it.

How did that happen? Before a finals game,

he was adjusting his shorts and we saw his dick.

How do you not know? You're in the media. I did not know.
You're in the fucking mainstream fake news media. Yeah.

You didn't know that? He's your favorite guy. He is my favorite player.
Are you like stoked? Are you stoked about it? Stoked about what? That there's a LeBron.

Come on, bro.

So you went Fox 2016?

Yes. How have you? You've been in TV for nine years? Yeah.
How have you enjoyed it? What's the vibe at Fox? Is it like more Republican sports?

No, it's so it's super listen, it is super siloed. Like the Fox sports, we're owned by the same people, but Fox Sports is, I've never, I've been doing it for nine years.

I'm a pretty openly liberal guy. I've never had, I think one of my most famous things ever was right when the show started.

some impassioned Kaepernick stuff. And I never...
How were you the only guy?

How are you like one of the it's like you want to to know something? It's so bizarre to me. I'll tell you something.
You just caught the easiest ones. What do you mean?

He took a knee and he was like, what the fuck did he do wrong? Of course. And then, like,

LeBron James is the best basketball player. Oh, you mean? Oh, that.
Yes. I just filled vacancies there where I'm like, they were just there.
They were just there.

Everyone, and then my hometown team becomes the greatest football team ever. I have become very lucky.
Yeah, yeah.

I am very lucky that somehow. How stupid are the other guys doing this? Well, that's, again, I love that.
really they must be morons I'm not gonna say everyone's a moron but I will say that I

it is you and Skip are the only smart people in the

how's he doing you checking on him I've not really he and I it's like listen it's wrong but that amount one and a half million dollars that like for for someone to say no I won't have sex with you for a million and a half dollars he's got it that really has to hurt your feelings skip must be so like he's like, what's I'm that repulsive?

Okay, would you have sex with your wife is here? I'm sure she would say go for a million and a half dollars, would you let Skip crack?

I'm sorry. I would

it but it must be listen, it's wrong. He shouldn't do that in a workplace.

I'm not defending Skip, but walking away.

He must be just he must be hurting. And I'm not saying you should check in, but maybe we should call him right now and see.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Would you tell him if it was on the table still, if Ski up was like, All right, Nick, you're second, you're ranking second, would you be like, Yeah,

he would get you something so nice,

a million and a half dollars?

I would let him do whatever he wants to be. You're not gonna be gay the rest of the year.
I'm like, it doesn't make you gay, it's me.

Sorry, I'm on a rant right now, and I should be doing this on uh Fox Sports One.

What about, have you checked in on Unk?

This squad is having a rant. So I listen, I have been,

I moved to New York. I got hired by Fox in 2016.

And then the show started in New York in 2017. So I never, those, I never really was on campus with those guys.
So they were colleagues, but I don't know them like.

They must have been so funny to see them at the office. Oh, yeah.
yeah i would have come on now ski yeah they're do they have arguments off this

dude i mean i'm saying it's just that they were box office for a while they kind of it kind of uh they found something there oh yeah yeah that yeah see that show that show

skip and shannon at its peak yeah was one of the greatest sports television shows of all time it was perfect and it's just like

Are there bad faith takes? Are some guys bullshitting? Some guys 100%. Yeah, like

Skip doesn't think LeBron is that bad. No, see, I don't think Skip's bullshitting.
Why does he hate LeBron?

That's weird. That one is a weird one.
It's like perverse, in fact.

It makes sense that Stephen A. Why Stephen A is the best.
Yeah, Stephen A is mad that LeBron won't pay him attention. That's what it is.
No, it's kind of maybe someone's.

Okay.

Without naming names,

does Mike.

Does he have influence?

Oh,

you mean the fact that

Stephen A and Mike are buddies? I feel like that. Yeah, of course, obviously.
Mike is at the crib, North Carolina, hitting tequila, and he's like, go fuck with Braun a little bit more.

Don't you think?

A little bit.

Yeah. He's been making his life hell for 22 years.
Yeah.

Yeah. I mean,

that's. I think there's.
I'm a Kobe fan, too. Like, it's just, but it's so obvious to me.
It is. And, well, I think there's a lot of.

I think there's a lot there, but I think you,

some of the most

ardent either bron critics or MJ sycophants are also texting with MJ. I do think that's an audience.
Okay, so for our audience that's not familiar with what you do, how would you describe your job?

I think we should, obviously, as a sports.

I mean,

I'm a, what they call, they call me an opinionist. I'm a sports talk show host.
When people... Pundit?

Pundit? I don't know.

When people ask me,

I'm definitely not a journalist. Really? When people

because I don't practice journalism. Oh, you don't snitch? No, that's no, that's, I just don't.
I'm not out there like reporting on stories and stuff.

When people ask me what I do, I say I'm one of those people that argues about sports on TV. So sick.
I mean, it's such a, in concept, it's such a funny concept, right?

And I think it really comes from Mike, right? It comes from Mike and the Mad Dog. I think they're the genesis of all this.
100%.

The concept, the loose concept of two men at a table having a point counterpoint, like

let's do it.

You really want to argue. Let's just pretend.
No, I kind of want to ask you to. I'm more interested in

what the ecosystem is nowadays because,

I mean, like, okay,

you came in nine years ago. Bron was what? In his 13th season? Yeah, I mean, I started at Fox

three months before the 3-1 comeback against Golden State. And I looked around.
And so, like,

three months before the block.

And he's a smart guy.

25%, right? 25% what? As smart. Oh,

dude, as Jewish.

Businessman was a bitch. What would I be?

What would I be? My mom's grandfather was Jewish.

So is that 25? That means you filling the LeBron James is good at basketball vacancies. Well, so that's the, that was the unbelievable.
That was the unbelievable thing. So he was.

Bron and I are the same high school class. I came from Kansas City doesn't have an NBA team.
You said same high school class?

So there's a reason I'm saying this.

Ohio. No, I got it, but just listen to me for a second.
You're right. Oh, you're my best friend.
So, in, no, but so in high school, me and my basketball teammates would watch the St. Vincent and St.

Mary's games and they were on TV because it was so fucking cool. It's so my age.

Right. We thought it was like, this guy is our age.
It's crazy. And Kansas City didn't have a team.
So I was just like, you know what? Wherever that guy goes, that's going to be...

There was no high school basketball in Kansas City? No, we didn't have an NBA team. Oh, okay.
And so I was like, that's got, I didn't have, I was unaffiliated from NBA fandom.

So LeBron was always my favorite player. And then I get on national TV

and everyone is, the argument people are having is, one day will he pass Michael Jordan? And that's like as far as anyone will go.

Like the third rail was, he might one day be able to be as good as him.

And then I was on TV during the 3-1 comeback, the greatest three-game stretch in the history of the sport, 41-16 and 7, 41, 8-11, and then 29-point, triple-double with the greatest offensive play ever.

And the next day on TV, I said, he just passed him. It's over.
The block was his moment in his career. That was his moment.

And that was 10 years ago. Brunson had the shot, right, over Brian Russell.

That's like kind of their. Yes, they each have their moments.
Luckily, Bronze, you didn't have to push off.

But

they were playing against truck drivers. And so, well,

it's a little overstrained. They're so good right now.
They're certainly

so much better than previous eras. But everybody, you just play in the era you're in.
But to your point, it was remarkable that that corner was unguarded.

That, like, hey, just say the guy who's obviously the greatest player ever is the greatest player ever, and I became famous for it. So why? I think.
Why isn't everyone the LeBron guy? Right?

I think because people are, I think there's a lot of, a lot of the most influential media folks, a lot of their legacies are tied to the Jordan-era Bulls. And so they are very protective of that.

We watched that as kids. Yeah, but

we were very young. It's like, what's your favorite music?

Pretty much eclectic. But like, if you,

for a lot of people, their favorite song is like the first...

One of the first songs they listened to the first time they were driving their own car.

And I think there's a lot of media folks that the greatest era of sports is the era when I broke into sports broadcasting. That was going on.
They're all from Boston.

It doesn't compute. Yeah, but so.
There's obviously a nostalgia factor, but like also, there might just be,

there might be like, do you think the media has elevated this like goat debate, right?

I think I have.

But like, people like,

do you think, to some extent, you've kind of been lucky that like LeBron is like,

you know, like you're doing the right thing.

I'm not saying like you're, this is like disingenuous, but you've benefited from like LeBron getting pummeled you know by oh a hundred percent the fact that it is the fact that it was controversial to say the greatest high school the greatest prospect ever who has played the has all of the youngest ever do records and oldest ever do records who who has every record imaginable that that it's still controversial to be like he's the best has been hugely beneficial for me.

It would be. But why is it uniformly, it was like, no, there are guys that weren't like

nostalgic for the Bulls championship. Like, is it personality driven? Yeah, I mean, I think that...

So here's...

Again, this might be too inside sports for your viewers. No, no, I know.

So I have a theory that if Jordan never had a lot of theories. If Jordan never existed

and the greatest play, the universally accepted greatest player of all time was Karim, because that's who it would have been. I know what you're going to say.

If Jordan never existed, 9-11 wouldn't have. Yeah.
Right.

Then

a guy like Tim Duncan would be in the GOAT debate. Because

what people turned the GOAT debate into was not who's the greatest player ever, it's who reminds me of Michael Jordan the most, which is why Kobe is probably

a touch historically overrated because

he is the most similar to Michael Jordan. Not today, Satan.

But I'm just telling, like, like if Magic was considered the GOAT, then no one would argue that LeBron was, because LeBron is a better Magic.

But because Mike was considered the GOAT, people elevated Kobe past a guy like Tim Duncan who was just objectively better than him. They said one B.
That's right. Exactly, and that's crazy.

So you're saying that he benefited from Michael Jordan? I'm saying that instead of the argument being... Michael benefited from it.

Right.

Instead of the question being, who's the greatest basketball player of all time, people asked that question, but what they were really asking is who's the the most similar to michael jordan and those are not the same thing yeah i i i agree i i just think that um

i think tim didn't like carry like a he didn't have the aura no gravity like he didn't like uh he had good players he had manu and he had tall oh yeah kobe only had shaquille o'neal what kobe like kobe like the second two or like the second right but what what hurts again what hurts kobe is the three years in the middle of his prime when he missed the playoffs or lost in round one smack dab in the middle of his prime.

With who? Andrew Biden? Well, that's the thing. But in the NBA, like, you're supposed to, you know, you carry guys.
He was left alone. And he was, listen, here's the thing about Braun, okay?

Like, he is the beta tester for like a new type of superstar in the NBA, right? Not like Jordan marketed sneakers, right? Now they have to also market themselves as human beings, right? And

let's be Christian for a second.

100%, 25%.

But I'm still still a live and let-live Christian, right?

Obviously, the first guy to have to do it is going to be a clumsy adjustment, right? Sure. And I don't think that that's afforded to LeBron enough, right?

And I do think that the decision was potentially the first kind of

brick in the social media era.

And I think that one year, he just had a rough one because when he lost the Mavs, he just said, if you don't like me, you're poor.

Yeah. He did that thing.
And it's just a lot of fun. It's the only real...

That press conference after that finals loss

in a 25 years in the public eye, it's the only

indefensible misstep.

When he picked up the purse, yeah, the suit was shorts.

I'm also UTA, Clutch Sports. We're family.
I love you. LeBron,

I'm so happy you're back. Anyway,

he actually shorts the suit in the middle. Well,

that was right before the 3-1 comeback.

That was the same. I know.
But he was like being an awesome. Yeah, the Tom Ford suits

would have been better had they won. The worst was the Shutter Shades,

the Miami. And like the

nerd glasses, the D-Wade LeBron. Oh, yeah.

I just think that

LeBron was beloved. We all knew that he was so good.
We all knew that those fucking Cavs teams were doo-doo cheeks, right? And like, I don't think he would have been blamed for leaving, right?

Potentially, if he went to the Knicks, I think, and did the decision like that, no one would have cared.

But there was something about the not two, not three, not four, which is like he's still like he's adjusting to a pressure that no one's ever applied to it. Yeah, listen, and I think the, but the

that's the remarkable thing about the guy's career is like the thing in Miami or in against Dallas happened. And for you're asking.
That was a sick team, dude.

That Dirk Rudd was awesome. Oh, it's highly the he lost to J.J.
Berea. I mean, it's a little more.
Well, he lost to Dirk Nowitzki.

J.J. Berea was pretty much the.

I know that's what the myth is, but it's not true. They say it is a mean thing.

But that, no, that, the, folks, to answer your question of why it's controversial to say he's the greatest, a lot of people decided in that moment he's ineligible. He'll never be able to overcome it.

But that was 14 years, nine finals appearances, and

four championships ago.

You have his number?

Do you like to text?

No.

Has he ever said you're selfie or no no has he ever liked Instagram of yours no the I have a good relationship with him but I don't I don't I mean he you put on for him has he said thank you ever actually oh yeah yeah he should as well he should well but like what I'm what I'm saying is this is like

it is a ridiculous standard to hold him to but what I think is I don't know if you get his number just text him just be yourself you're the best basketball player ever I think at this point in his career he is what is the the decision for a fucking Hennessy?

It's just like, come on, dude.

Anybody that was tricked by that fucking Hennessy

pre-ad is a moron. Why? Because anybody that thought

that anybody that thought LeBron was going to announce his retirement at noon on a Tuesday online.

Yeah. What are you, did you use the USSR, the state media? That makes no sense.
What do you mean? Tuesday is not a retirement day? that what does that even mean i'll tell you exactly what

anyone that thinks that uh tuesday is a retirement anybody is more on it anybody that that thought

that lebron that's bizarre sin it's not bizarre at all no it's just it's he's 41 and we're like well how much longer is he gonna go he's right

anybody wondering whether or not he might retire was does not make you an idiot thinking it's gonna be one day notice and i'm gonna do it in the middle of a work uh middle of a week middle of a workday as opposed to a major event in prime time.

I don't know. He doesn't know how the guy's hand.
So I guess I'm calling you an idiot. So he's never retired on a Tuesday before? He's not going to retire at noon on a Tuesday online.
Who knew that?

Anybody with a. Literally, 99.9% of people don't know that.
You're putting on for your boy. I'm not putting on for your boy.

It's just not the way that you're going to. Let me ask you this.

How do you think he will announce I'm going to retire? I will. Okay.

He'd probably do

the Kobe year was like the video tributes and like it was all the same.

so he would get for me that was the worst year and but uh and then it was the best sports game I've ever seen in my entire life at the end the 60-point game it was just the most I was weeping like I called my dad weeping and and it was kind of like also just sorry to get stuck on Kobe but no it's cool all of the fucking math nerds that were like he's inefficient is it he just he

no one saw an inefficient shooting performance for like a 13 win team. They saw a god.
They saw like somebody that we thought we'd never see again. And then he came back for one shot.
Channeled it.

It's one of the greatest sports performances ever. I think it is the best sports game I've

ever seen. You can just say game.
What? You don't have to say sports game.

Well,

there are other types of games. Like girls play games.

I understand, but even if we included that, do any of those trumpet? Or is it

the best game you've ever seen? You're trying to flex on me in terms of sports game? No. I'm saying it in a nerd way because that's how I i do the interview okay but going back to like uh

like um

it's just like he doesn't need he doesn't need to do that just to protect himself right he's like he's already the best basketball player ever and i do think it's like it's similar to kd right he's a he's a that is a basketball angel that is a savant that is an offensive savant and we got to watch him and he's the burner accounts indicated that like the boys are going into the comments the boys are checking reddit yeah And it's like it's really depressing for me because I'm like, you know, if I had like, let's say $100 million,

like I wouldn't give a fuck about it. I'd disappear, right? Don't you think though that

maybe you wouldn't?

The fact that the people who have it don't makes doesn't make you doubt whether or not if you had it, you'd have to. I'm not judging him for it.
I think that it's just like

it just indicates a vulnerability and an insecurity when it's like, bro, like, you're the best. You literally are the best.

And I think the GOAT GOAT debate being perpetuated has

kind of perhaps influenced that. You know, like people saying that he's not the best basketball player.
When he's 41, what is he? 24, 6, and 6 last year?

He's sixth in MVP voting, second team all NBA, and you're 22.

Was it 24, 6, and 6? Yeah, that's right. At 41.
Well, at 40. And he was a yeah, but he was like.
Yeah, no, listen. It's nobody ever seen.
Here's the thing. Yeah.

It will.

people

in 40 years won't believe

that it was an argument. That it was, like, people will think, no,

and so

that part is unequivocally true that this is going to age as, you got to be kidding me. People argued for someone else.
Like, and

it's like a mad men where they're at a picnic and then they just shake out all their garbage into a field and you're like, oh, they didn't have littering back then. You know what I mean?

That's the only prestige great show that I've never seen. It's not good? It's just fashion.
No, no, it's good.

My wife owns a women's boutique and is a style.

Do you dress him? Yes. Give it up for her.

He's a peacock.

You have some of the best.

I think like you're that, I think in a debate, I think you dressed like, like, I don't know, peaky blinders, kind of like

Atlanta church peaky blinders. Yeah.
Is that,

I'm sorry.

It's a powerful move. You're like a sharp blue dresser.
Well, I try, listen, there is,

I do not have a

face for traditional TV. We wear what they tell us.
Come on. No, no, no.
Right. So I have to, I do a lot of things, whether it be the hair, the jewelry, or the clothes, to kind of distract from.

You're not distracting. It's a flex against the guy you're arguing.
Because you're like being like a, you're like doing a closing argument at like defense attorney. Well, I thought you were going to.

You're like defense attorney of a client who's so guilty

I was worried you were gonna do that to me because you when I walked in you said you had to go change for the show but then you just put on a worse t-shirt well this was under my thing

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This, you know, pundit says this about that pundit. People for some reason love that shit.
It's like streamers. Doesn't it feel trashy sometimes?

Yeah, and I think you have to walk a fine line on what you want to,

you know, how seriously you want to be taken. I think you should go all in on it.
The Stephen A fucking wind horse LeBron thing was just, it felt like fly. It was, I was locked in on that.

Right. It was yellow journalist.
I mean, like, like, and I listen, I don't think, I think Wendy is in a separate category. I think Wendy's one of the most respected guys in the business.

Well, when Braun did that, I thought what Braun did. Did you say then there was one? That was.

Did you? That's the.

I thought Braun taking that shot at Wendy was unnecessary. Yeah.
I think the I think everything he has said about it. It's like you don't have to say it.

And this guy went to your high school or something. The action is covering you the liar.
And then, like, you know, he thinks you're awesome. And he's like, he's been like, put it, like, he's been

celebrating you for 20 hours. I thought that one was weird.
I thought he could have gone harder at Stephen A. But, yeah.

Well, first of all, okay, just on a basic moral level, if some guy's shitting on your son constantly and he's a two-way player and he's getting mentioned more than

the fucking MVP, like SGA. Like he's a dad.

He's going to be like, shut the fuck up. But it also, but it wasn't, it was.

He's entirely within his rights. Of course, but it's also, that whole thing was, all of it was,

in my opinion, misleading. What Bron was so upset about was when Stephen A.

flipped it from criticizing Bronny the player to criticizing Bron the father. When he's like, I'm pleading with you as a father.

That's not the right thing. The being the dad, protecting the son, is better.

That nigga is better. I understand, but it is what it is.

Don't attack me. That's rough.

Either way. He's just

a two-way player. He's in the G League half the time, the South Bay Lakers.
And they're just like, it's because it's Braun's son, and he's just getting all this fucking attention.

And plus, he's a real one kind of for going to LA. Can you imagine being on a team with your dad? It'd be so annoying.

My dad would be fucking like just, I would go to Phoenix, get blowjob after blowjob. I wouldn't go on a team with my dad.
That sucks. He's a real one for actually doing it.
I mean it. I mean that.

Yeah. He's like, I'm going to, yeah, my dad's going to, like, if I miss something, a shot, like, my dad's going to be like,

it's annoying. And your dad's the best basketball player ever.
Well, that's the other, that's the other tough. So good on Brody.

But beyond that, it was the first time I didn't, I think it was at the beginning of the administration. It was the first time I just didn't think of Trump and Elon for a week.
I got a vacation.

Because LeBron-Steven A stuff? Well, because LeBron takes Sean Windy. And then I'm like, that's peculiar.
And then

Stephen A., okay, first off, he said, like,

and if you, and if you touch me, I will have no choice but to put hands on you. Who are you, who, seriously? That's the part that was.
Who are you taking in that?

Well, I mean, that's, I mean, it was such an insane

statement.

And then, like, it was like,

he's 6'8. He's 6'8.

6'8, the greatest athlete of all time. What do you think about it?

All of it, and then wouldn't, and then

Stephen A wouldn't stop talking about it. He talked about it again right before this season started.
The funeral thing is a little bit my fault. It's your fault? Yeah.

How? I told Pablo, I met him at

the Nets game right after we got Luca, the Lakers were in town, and we were at a bar. And I was like,

Why wasn't LeBron at the memorial? And he's like, he was. And I was like, I don't, we didn't see him, right? And then

he was like, yeah, well, his daughter was being born that day. And then that happened.
And right before that happened, he texted me. He's like, I've talked to like 25 people.
This is my white whale.

So you're the genesis of that story?

I told my dad, and he's like, you fucked up our playoff run, you fucking idiot. I just like, I wanted to know where he was.
The other thing is this, these two guys were, like, not nice to him.

Can you imagine Bron wore 23?

He wore 23. And this guy's being a dickhead to him

forever. Forever.

Jordan's relationship with Braun is really fascinating.

Yeah. Do you think that Kobe and MJ thought it was soft that he has friends?

Really?

They were two guys like, as a man, you shouldn't have friends. Seriously.
I mean, I haven't thought about it that way, but maybe. Yeah.

The other thing was this, is like Braun was dipped into the river sticks. Like God gave us that human being.
Like those two guys had to become sociopaths to like achieve their greatness.

And like there was a,

there was a dissimilarity, I think.

Well, yeah, I mean, listen,

Kobe's path is Jordan's path.

And with the exception of like,

Kobe's dad obviously played in the NBA. Obviously, all these guys have a lot of people.
Where is it? Jordan's dad play.

Not in the NBA.

That's why I said, with that exception. I'm going to get killed.
He's going to kill him.

And

Braun's path, I would say, is closer to

Magic's as far as. Brown's like Wemby.
He's a freak of nature.

Maybe that's a better example.

I think.

Yeah, I mean, I think

he was 18 years old. He was already built for the NBA.
Yeah,

at 20, he was the best player in the league. Yeah, I remember.

Second in MVP voting.

MVP voting is just suck-ups like you. I don't have a vote.
Try to suck up to him. I don't have a vote.

I'm sure. when

you vote i should vote i'm sure when braun was 20 and kobe missed the playoffs uh because he didn't have enough players you still thought kobe was better and then even kobe and then was that was that goat uh 81 the

yeah that yes i mean or that that era yeah and then the next year when i was abroad that year when you were um you know crying about sashiro vujacic and braun was taking delante west to the nba finals crying he was the the machine the the machine

the the eyebrows yeah vuly chicich was good The thing is this, like, I'm a Kobe fan, but I accept that LeBron is the GOAT, right? And when we won in the bubble, which is, by the way, was

the toughest championship ever. Correct.
Right? And the fact that... And then they had home court, and they were the team that didn't get to use it.
There's no home. Oh, exactly.

My point is they had earned home court, and then nobody got home court. And like, it's just,

from what I understand, like, it was draining. I mean, we saw Jimmy

that game, he just won single-handedly. Well,

no, I mean,

the Clippers fell apart.

The Nuggets fell apart.

A.D. hit the shot.

Oh, I'm sorry. The Nuggets didn't fall apart.

The Clippers fell apart against the Nuggets. I can't believe the Clippers fell apart.

I cannot believe it. It's one of the greatest.

And do you know? You know that the fucking Thunder have the Clippers draft pick this coming year? Yeah. It might be the fourth pick of the draft.
How do they know Shea was good? Man, I don't know.

I mean, everybody thought he was like, oh, he's better than expected. Nobody thought this.

Nobody in the world thought this was possible.

Comparing it to the Luca trade is crazy.

Oh, no.

That's insane. No, well, the Luca trade was just a.
Israel.

No, it wasn't. That was.
Miriam Elsa. It goes all the way to the top.

That is one of the.

You can't get spicy. No,

that is one of the most frustrating conspiracies is that

the... It's for the casino? Yeah, that it's for the casino to move them or to move it to Vegas.
When it was very, very simple,

Nico Harrison did not like that there was someone more powerful than him in the organization, so he fucking shook it. He had a bad attitude.
He was a fat boy.

Yeah, but I mean, I don't even think that I think those were his excuses when reality was he was like, as long as Luke is here, I won't really be in charge. He will be.
He sold it as a wind win now?

He sold it as win now in the hotel.

And now they're going to trade AD. I love him.
Anthony Davis?

In the bubble, honestly, when we won, I had this thought to myself, does it feel the same? And it kind of didn't. Because the Lakers,

I kind of liked JaVail and Dwight. They were fun.

But it was a mercenary kind of team. And I kind of thought to myself,

Does it feel like, you know, we had all these kids and then we threw them away for AD. I was so happy for AD.
Like, when he was, like, crying, you could tell it meant so much to him.

And I think they would have won again the next year if Braun didn't get hurt.

The problem was that they started the season three weeks later, and the organization should have protected their two assets, their two biggest assets.

They should have sat out the first half of that season. Yeah, but I mean,

they had the best record in the West when Solomon Hill did the cartwheel into LeBron's ankle.

There was that, and then A.D. also went down.

But AD's gone down every year of his career, except for the championship. Really?

Are you being a smart ass? I don't know. I don't know, dude.
I feel bad for that guy. He seemed like...
Do you remember Kentucky during that tournament? Yeah.

I just remember, I was like, this guy is just an absolute comprehensive monster. Yeah.
Yeah.

I think he's...

I think the best prospect...

You could argue that from Braun to Wimby.

In that timeframe, the single best prospect was Anthony Davis. Yeah.
Well, your 40-year thing, I have a counterpoint. Sure.
They're not going to care about Braun MJ. Because of Wimby? Yeah.

I don't think he gets there. Why? Because every single player in the history of the league that's 7'5 or taller has just had terrible.
Yeah, but his body's different, dude. Really?

Yeah, he's not thick. What's he doing right now? He's not thick.
He's not like Greg Odin.

Yeah, but neither was. I mean, who's your favorite body? Me was Ralph Samson.
Who do you think has the best body out of all the guys? I don't know. Really? I don't know.
Probably Dwight, right?

Dwight? I don't know, probably. He's strong.
Yeah, I mean, Dwight's like a bodybuilder. Yeah, yeah.

But I just don't think Wimby will stay healthy, sadly. And so far that's been true.

Did Dwight get kind of like blacklisted a little bit? I don't think so. After

that stuff,

now we're doing celebrity gossip. We are now doing celebrity gossip.
But he was good still.

I mean, he wasn't that good at that point. He played a long time.
Dwight played a long time. Was it after the championship? How did he...

Where did he go after 2020? I think he went to China.

I think he played with one other year.

That team was big and strong. Well, yeah, that team had a lot of...

They were built like...

What's the best comp for that?

The football team. No.

Kevin Jones's.

Like the 08 Celtics. Like, just a lot of length.

I don't like Celtics either, but stink.

That team also is just.

Do you think, how do you compare the current era to Deadball? Like, do you think that those competitive, is there competitive parody there? What do you mean? Because, like,

everyone that played against Kobe,

the impressive thing about Braun is that he transitioned between eras. Multiple eras, yeah.
Yeah. But, like, now it's just, like, Steve Kerr, like, woked the league.

He, you think it is? It's wokeness. What do you mean? The three-ball.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
Do you think it's, it's just utter wokeness? I don't, I don't think.

But, like, like that era where it was like 87-83 and like those like Lakers-Celtics finals. Sure.

Was that more difficult? Like

the rule changes. I think that I

think that they

it just totally changed the way the sports played. I don't know if one's more difficult than the other.
You're just trying to figure out a way to compliment LeBron. No, I'm not by that.

I'm not.

I just so like the 80s were

prior to the 20. No, prior to the 2020s, the 80s were the highest scoring decade of the last 50 years.

And then the 90s were the lowest scoring because, and it's all, it's not the same guys in the 80s and 90s. It's just the rule changes.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
My shirt's dirty.

My girlfriend's out of town right now. Dude, how long have you been with your girlfriend? Five and a half years, fiancé.
I was going to say, yeah, it's about time if it's five and a half years.

Fabulous. How'd you propose? Oh, I bricked it so bad.
How'd you do it? Oh, my God. Okay, I was in.
So

we got together on New Year's.

It was going to be our five-year anniversary. So this is.
I'm just 10 months ago. Does he come up with like plans, like romantic plans? Yeah.
Yeah, he definitely does.

Look how romantic of a guy this is. I'm a mess of a guy.
So yeah,

she was going to Mexico City to see a friend. I said, she's like, do you want to come? And so then her friend.
So it's New Year's Eve. Yeah, her friend was my man.

You might be the first person to ever propose on New Year's Eve.

Dude I don't fucking go ahead. I want to hear

God damn it, dude. I want to hear.

What did he do?

She hated it. She hated it? Yeah.
No, she, but I, but it was, it was, she hated it. It was a great plan.
Okay, fine. But go ahead.
So I'm like, how can I not fuck it up? Right?

And so I, so I told her friend, I was like, well, just do like 10, 9, 8, 7, kiss, and then I'll hand her, right? Simple. Like, no way I could fuck it up.

And then that night, my inside man was like way, like, trashed by like 9.30. Then the girls were like, let's make a move.
And then, so I had to, and they're like, you're good at directions.

And I'm like, oh, God.

And I was like, and then we show up at a place at like 11.

No one's there. It's completely empty.
And I was like, you have to find a fucking. And also, I ran my mouth to like too many people.
So my phone buzz, buzz, buzz. Like,

her brother hit me up. He's like, you guys are being fucking sussed, dude.
Like, he's like, I know it's going down. I want, like, let me see pigs.

My family was convinced that I didn't want to include them in this special moment in my life. 25%.

That's how they act.

But like, yeah, so then I was like, I told her friend, who also she laughs when she's nervous. So I was like, why are you laughing at me? And then I was like, you have to find a fucking party.

I was like, this is my life. And then, so then she found a party and we went into Uber and dropped us off.
And then I looked and I was like, where is it? She's like, it's here. And it was a hospital.

It dropped us off at a hospital. And then like, we found this place where

she was invited, and then it was like eight people around a coffee table. And then I was like, I'm not gonna fucking propose here.

And then, some guy was like, Yo, the last episode was fire, and I was like, I'm not gonna propose in front of these people.

And then, like, all night, we were trying to find a place, and it was like, I was acting bad. She was like, Why have you had such a bad attitude to New Year's? And I'm like, I'm great, I feel great.

And then, like, finally, like 3 a.m., we found a place, and it was great.

And there was like people, they're playing playing like kumbia or whatever it just looked looked fun right and so i get patted down and then it was cold you know how they get cold

sorry i apologize that was rude of me you know how they fucking they're always cold yeah so she was wearing my jacket and then she got patted down and then like the ring was in the inner pocket and they pulled it out and then i've been i've been so badly

I've been so badly behaved that I was like,

you know, and she was like, and then she said something so sweet. she says something so sweet I can't believe I'm telling Nick right this

I love you dude thanks I appreciate it um uh

and uh she said something so sweet but like literally like it was so emasculated like my penis like went in my body she was like she said well it didn't work out tonight but like maybe another time and I was like yeah but

maybe another time and then like yeah and then the whole next day I was like trying I for the first time in my life you know that like um at men they're supposed to um like, if you're, you, you feel terrible about somebody, you're supposed to not mention it.

Yeah. I've never, it was the first time I've ever done that, yeah.
You just, I let my phone die. There was like 50 missed texts because I ran my dumbass mouth to everyone.

And then at the end of the day, I was like, I feel terrible all day. And she's like, why don't you just fucking ask me?

And I was like, I thought I could do a plan, like, just one fucking plan for the first time in my fucking life.

She's like, no, like, you're terrible at plans. That's why I make all the plans.
You call me a micromanager, but you're incapable of plans. That's why you're lucky to be with me.

And I was like, you're right. That's so us.

And then she was like, she's like, why did you just fucking ask me? And I was like,

really? She's like, yeah, you think I would have liked that?

And I was like, it sounded good. I was like, I thought girls would like that kind of thing.

And she was like, no. She's like, I don't have, like, I'm not like a dumb bitch.

So then I was like,

and then she took it, and then I was weeping.

Sick ring, though? It's like

my late mother's, and it's like a great-great-grandmother, or great-grandmother's, yeah, from back in the day. That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah.
And then I was crying.

She was like, why are you being so dramatic? I was like, you were crying? Yeah, so much. Yeah, you cried, too.
I didn't cry. Have you ever cried at sports?

Not when you got engaged to your acquitted over here?

I didn't cry. No, I didn't cry.
I cry a lot. I cried the first Lakers chip with Shaq and Kobe because I'd never seen a team of mine win.
Yeah. I remember I was peeing.

Notice how you said Shaq's name first.

Shut the fuck up, man.

All right, let's do this dumb thing. What's the 10? What's your 10? What's my 10? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Players ever? That's what you want to do.

We're just talking hoop, but I'm not going to be able to do that. Okay, that's fine.
Hoop is my order.

In order, that's fine. Bron Kareem, Jordan,

Magic,

Russell Wilt, Duncan Kobe.

Why Russell Overwilt? Because of the chips. I mean, he owned him repeatedly.
Yeah, but then you're playing into the LeBum

argument that the chips matter.

Well, they were head-to-head, and it's 11-2. Yeah, but that guy was having so much sex, he was probably tired.

And then, so by that math, how many did I just name? Robert Ory's the second best player, though. No.
Yeah.

Again, if you're going to, no.

Who else is up there randomly? Randomly up there that I have higher than others? Bill Ruth. I'm saying championships.
Oh, well, I mean, Russell's teammates. Yeah, yeah.

Have the check. Yeah.

And... Dude,

it wasn't basketball, dude. You see what they're doing?

I understand, but what do you want them to do? I'm just saying, like, we can't, like, pretend like.

Dante DiVincenzo just murders everyone there. That was a good pull, actually.
Dante DiVincenzo was a good one. Are you just saying it because also he'd be allowed to play because he was white?

Well, they let in Boston, they let Bill.

Yeah, but there's limitations on how many black guys you could have.

Well, beyond that, it was a racist stage. Oh, yeah.
Oh, horrible. Kyrie, also,

they're still about that.

It's a well-earned reputation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The greed had.

But then, and then, so then after

Kobe, what number is Kobe?

Fucking ass. Bron Scream, Michael, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe.

So Kobe's eight, Bird's nine, and then 10, 11, 12 gets hard because it's Shaq, Akeem,

Joker, and Steph are all fighting for that first spot. You don't like him.
No, I just didn't believe in him. I was just late to the party.
I was wrong about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's all. Yeah.

What is it? Like,

we argue about sports. people

just like uh someone uh not uh knowing the future someone's like you hate them like who cares? Yeah, you're like, yeah, Nikola Jokic was a fat guy from

the Balkans, and he ended up being incredible. One of the greatest players of all time.
How are you supposed to know? But although

you, Caleb Williams,

you said before you ever played, you're like, he will play in the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, I picked him up.
That's a what. That's a whiff.
Did you feel like... Now,

blood coursing through your veins. In my defense, you're like, I have a new boy.
So

let me ask you this. I'm buying in.

So let me ask you this. So I predicted that Caleb Williams, as a rookie, would play in the Super Bowl.
Is he good?

I think nail polish. That's what I know.
Yeah, his mom's a nail tech. It's like a bonding thing between them.

People are rude to him about it, though. No, yeah.
People are. I don't care.

That apart, I totally agree.

Yeah, people think he's too effeminate. I don't think that fucking.
Well, they do that to the Sixers guy, too. Jared.
Oh, yeah. The TikTokers.
But he does TikTokers. And that is where I draw the line.

Just stop it. Well, that just seems childish.
Yeah, why is he doing that?

His TikToks just seem very childish. But I mean, he's a kid.
Your boy's brother, he loves TikTok also. Oh, I know.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Do you think that's why he gets crap?

It's not because...

Obviously, what's the argument? You're like, Mahomes is really good. What is the argument that you're getting back there? Oh, I mean, it's all bullshit.
It's because, what?

He talks like Kirbert the Frog. No, I mean, it's just brother.
He's just one.

He's won too much.

Does that make him good? No, of course, but I'm saying because of that, he has a lot of people that don't like him. So you just talk to people that are like 35 IQ all day long about sports?

No, I think the reason the TV I do is good is because

Brew and Wilds are both really sharp guys. But to your point earlier, like the barrier for entry of being like a smart sports TV guy is not very high.
I'm jealous.

I mean, I'm not even a LeBron stan, but if I could have seen that there was a vacancy there, you would have jumped. I mean, it's brilliant business.

I tell you.

And, yeah,

I mean, the things I'm most known for are being big supporters of the two guys who are going to go down in the greatest in the history of their sports, Mahomes and Britain. Better than Brady.

Yeah, I do. Right.
Why is that?

Because

he was individually great immediately, and Tom wasn't.

He was. He came in for Drew Blenzel.
Right, but Tom, so Tom was considered those first. You remember, remember,

everybody thought Peyton Manning's the better quarterback, but Tom Brady's clutch for like the first decade. And it wasn't really until Brady got moss and they had those crazy stats.
Mahomes

won league MVP his first year as a starter. So he was, and he's always, and he's won amazingly at a higher level than Brady through the limited time.

And he went to a party, too, with the, and they had Chase Smokers, DJ Khaled. You see that clip? No.
So funny. I'll show you.

He's like, yeah, we went to a hotel. We were partying.
They had chain smokers. DJ Khaled.
Yeah, dude.

He's awesome. I mean, what? But

people like...

The goddamn spoon man for the sound guard videos coming to my shit.

No way. Oh, yeah.

Talking to six sprills bar and all that. Tiki Torch.

Three whole pigs. Fucking shitload of the shit.
Chain smokers came through. DJ Khaled.
That's your boy, dude. Tell him I'm nice.

I will.

Tell him I'm nice.

We'll text him. Adam Friedland is nice.
I'm kind of like,

I will tell you after the show, but I kind of have

involvement with the Kelsey thing. Oh, so tell us now.
No, no.

They know, the audience knows. Oh, okay.

But,

yeah. Taylor Swift and I have been through a lot.
We're pretty fine right now, yeah.

Yeah. Am I supposed to know? Should I have done my research on that? No, it's boring.
It's like some guy came on my podcast that was dating Taylor Swift and then

because my friend said

someone mentioned ice spice and he said, is that the Eskimo spice girl? Because of ice. Yeah.
And then they said it was

insensitive to

Eskimos or whatever. Really? Yeah, it's like kind of a, and then like, and then the.
I miss a lot of the internet that you see. No, I am not online at all.

Dude, I miss that Ronaldo was at the White House yesterday.

i don't believe that you're not online at all bro dude i'm here working on this on this brilliant

you just said you've worked three days in a row and you're exhausted you can't be working that interviews in a row because i grind on them not for this one because this is light work all right all right let's see this is light work dude i could do this if i wanted to but wait let me let me uh

i want i want to i want to let's do a segment right lightning round right lightning round you're gonna get like let's say five seconds to argue back five seconds okay all right sure. And then, okay.

Offensive linemen shouldn't be on TV as pundits. I don't care what Jeff Saturday thinks about something.
If you don't get TDs or sacks, just like get off the screen.

And also, like, we don't know what you look like.

That's your take? Yeah, they should have. I don't want to see them.

You absolutely need them because... Okay.

Okay.

They should go back to business suits, the coaches. I love that take.
I agree. Yeah, they look like they're at a Kia finance event.

nba coaches yeah

nba coaches should wear suits i 100 agree yeah and baseball coaches wearing the the uniforms the uniforms is the dopest thing of all time you love it oh it's hilarious see don zimmer's fat ass like wearing uniforms i think one day a year the other sports should do the same thing suits no what wearing uniforms

The coaches like the NFL,

yeah. One day a year.

You just see them in a tank top. Yeah.
I guess JJ would look fine. So if David Stern were commissioner, Pablo would be dead.

What do you think about that? Okay.

Agreed? That's a great take.

I think if Stern were go ahead. If AI

went to NFL, he'd be potentially top five ever. Allen Iverson? Yeah.
Agreed. Dude, those guys.

I also think he could have been

Arsenal's striker. He was one of the best pure athletes I've ever seen.
And when he talks about Kobe, like, those guys put Kobe maybe one.

Yeah, I know. And I trust like what AI thinks about basketball more than a guy that doesn't know how to play sports.

Sorry, bro.

Soccer is the best sport. The talent pool is wider.
It's the whole world, right? The talent pool is wider, and there's not a

height barrier to entry the way there is in other sports. Yes, and there is

just by far, the atmosphere is there's no comparison. The atmosphere is the best.
There's no comparison. I agree.

And it's just like, there is also like, I guess the Packers are technically like this, but there's a notion of like belonging to a club and that the supporters, I pay Arsenal.

I pay them what do you pay? Yeah, of course. What do you mean? What do you pay? 38 pounds a year? For what? To be in my club.
That's my club.

You just give them money? Yeah. What do you give them?

I'm a member of Arcelor. And then the players are the first team.

The manager is the coach, and then there's a board. There's four.
It's kind of beautiful.

But then what's your role my role is that i'm a member of arsenal so like do you get to vote on stuff i get to maybe try and get tickets but

we get to watch preseason games yeah we get to watch upstream preseason games i watch i literally watch everything so you're just paying for arsenal league pass buddy no i i get that on peacock well and on no parents but i right so then you're just you're just giving them 40 pounds a year whatever you should just watch the better sport

i like i like embarrassing being a guy from brooklyn saying that it's the best sport sport. Listen, I like it.
World Cup's on my network.

World Cup is going to... We're going to brick it.
The United States is going to bring it. Oh, no shot.
We got no shot. No, no, no.
I don't care about the team.

Oh, you mean as a host nation? Yeah, yeah. It's going to be...
Like, the ticket prices are insane. Yeah, but ticket prices are insane every World Cup.

There's like, my friend tried to get five tickets, and it was like $50,000. Oh, he's trying to go to the final? No, he's trying to go to a random game in Miami.
I don't think that's a good idea.

we're friends to you. Group stage.
Mark would never lie. I'll put him on the phone after this.
He's the finest man I know.

Kobe Farrell game was the best sports game in the last 25 years, probably ever. Stephan, Wardell Stefan Curry is the best point guard of all time.
No.

And anyone who doesn't have him in their top five is a, I don't have, I have no respect for you. Top five player of all time? Yes.
Yes. Okay, so I've never seen anyone shoot basketball.

He's the best shooter of all time.

But that's what basketball is. That's how you make basketball.

It's a big part of what basketball is.

Have you ever seen anything remotely like that no he's the best shooter of all time he's not better than magic johnson there's no goat debate for shooting no okay and what what what i okay i'll get sidetracked i the story of the 1980 finals is uh on paper incredible right he's a rookie yeah it's game six kareem's hurt yeah he's in la trying to rehab They're like, let's just throw it.

He plays five positions

and

he wins MVPs. Shouldn't have won MVP, but yeah.

Have you watched Game Six? Yeah.

Come on. What? It's not.

He's

no one's league.

Magic, because he's a big guard.

And Michael Cooper, he could be a 3D. The rest of them aren't league.
Kareem is definitively. He wasn't playing that game.
Oh, you're talking about literally just that. It's just crappy.
It's just.

But it's just, there's no comparison. The era is.

This is like saying. I'm with you, dude.
I'm a bro comedian. I'm a bro homosexual like you.
Let me ask you this. You're a comedian.
Yeah.

Who's the fucking Jackie Gleason or whatever? Very good. Yeah.

He was a rabbi.

If

his routines right now look pedestrian compared to the current comedian. Absolutely not.

There isn't a comparison. No, hold on.
Who's the guy that used Henny Youngman? Take my wife, please. That is the best joke ever written.

Oh, people are just like, oh, no, no, no, because they say, because of word economy, they say that is

best joke ever written. But I guess my

love Lucy, that type of stuff like doesn't hold up today, but we assume those people, if they were born today, would be the funniest people alive. It's a girl.
What?

It's a girl. She's being annoying.
It's not funny that. Can I ask you a question? When you said,

I have a question from 10 minutes ago. Yeah, yeah, when you said they get cold and then you apologize to my wife.
Because I was sexist, but it was a joke here.

So I didn't know if you were being sexist or racist. That's what I was asking.
I was trying to figure out if

your girlfriend was black, and you were saying black people.

We're on a first guy date.

You thought the same thing, right? I was like, oh, are you also engaged with black people?

What is that stereotype? What do you mean? Black people get cold?

I didn't know if that's what you were saying. Women get cold is cold.
Because you've heard a million times.

And I did a joke like, I'm sorry. And then I'm like, they get cold.
Yeah, that's why I couldn't figure out. Oh, because I was your wife is here, and we're on a first date, and she's chaperoning us.

Yeah.

And how's it going? What do you think?

Yeah, I'm destroying it, right? Okay.

They should let more people that aren't jocks be the coach.

Why?

Because

there's no overlap. Like, if you could learn the game cerebrally, you don't have to have played when you were 21 years old.

I disagree. Why? Because I do.
You know who Jose Mourinho was.

Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He did play.

Right. I'm not saying that it's impossible to be done.
I think the best,

particularly in the NFL. You're sucking up to the jocks right now.
No, I'm not. You're sucking up to the jocks.
I'm not sucking.

We could do it. I think there are elements of it that we could do, but I think like, to me, the boy coach of an NFL coach.
I'm not crazy.

Correct. Yeah, yeah.

And I think a huge part of being an NFL head coach is being able to command the respect of the room. And I think that's very difficult if you weren't a player.
You're absolutely right.

Now I'm imagining like, I'm your coach.

You don't have to imagine it that much. Just look at the dollar.
Listen to me. We're doing spider-why banana.
I learned about it in YouTube.

It's bullshit that the NFL has non-guaranteed contracts. And that these guys are like literally

destroying their brains. And

you could just cancel someone's deal.

deal like why is showhey getting uh like a billion dollars so it's just for a less popular sport the yeah i mean i the the union for the nfl has been bad for a long time they're pro like the the owners the union just hasn't had any teeth it's really like actually like it's yeah brutally sad the because of the especially the sacrifice they make physically the and now listen the they anybody can get a guaranteed contract they just guys

the they don't have the leverage to negotiate it When you hear about Bobby Badilla, are you like sick, dude? Well, yeah. Yeah,

fuck the man. He's got to pay.
Well, listen, I'm a union guy. I think that,

yeah, but the football union's been bad for a long time, and the guys don't have enough juice to really... Who's the rep? Who's the main guy?

It was Dean Marie Smith forever. Who is it now? I don't even know.

Ask Pavel. He just got him all in trouble.
He got the union. NFL Union guy.
He's a Pinkerton. He's a union buster.
Well, I don't think he he meant to be, but kind of, yeah. He did, because he tattled.

I ruined the Lakers playoff run. Did you have a take that you were wrong because of me?

Did you have a take that I was wrong? That was my fault. I apologize.

The T-Wolves. Did you say we were going to beat the T-Wolves? That's your fault? I apologize.
You threw it off with your tattling deposit. My dad is pissed off at me.
Yeah, my dad, my parents.

What do your parents do? My mother passed away. My dad was an architect, and then they're from Cape Town.
They were Jews. And then my dad, the apartheid regime, had him on an enemies list.
Really?

And then he got called up to go to Angola to the Civil War, and then they moved to L.A.

But then my dad, the reason I'm kind of into sports is my dad

got into sports. And it was the 80s in L.A., so it was Showtime, Dodgers, Fernando.

And so my dad was at the Gibson game. Really? Yeah.
That's sick. But he learned American sports to have something to share with his kid, who's American.
And so we shared it.

So does your dad have have a sick accent?

I don't think it's a very good one. Is it sitting in?

Have you seen the blood diamond? Yeah.

He sounds nice. I love my dad.
But

at this age, he's 74, he turns the TV off like

25 times a game. He cannot take the stress.
Really? And it could be like a regular season game, too. And his favorite team is Lakers?

During the World Series game seven, I'm backing on baseball. I know.
This was an unbelievable playoff. Yeah, yeah.
It's an unbelievable playoff.

During the World Series, I called like 40 times just to make sure he didn't die. Yeah.

And he's like, I can't take this. It's not good for my health, Adam.
It's not good for my health. Do you go to LA and go to games?

No. We're going to LA on Tuesday for Thanksgiving to see our son.

Yeah.

And I get to meet my granddaughter

for the first time.

After.

Yeah. Congratulations, by the way.
Oh, thanks for that. I didn't say on the show yet.
You're a grandfather. I'm a grandfather as of 12 12 days ago.

Do you think that the other guys should have more respect for you? It was more subjective. 100%.

As an unc.

Elk.

Gramps, yeah. OG.
Exactly. That's how I feel.
Yeah.

But we're going to go to Lakers Mavs the day after Thanksgiving. And the question is.

Well,

here's the question that I've been talking about. I have not yet talked to my wife about.
Yeah.

So my granddaughter will be at that point 20 days old. Yeah.

Also, though, it would be super sick for her when she's 70. Uh-huh.
It'd be like meeting someone. It's like, I watched Babe Ruth to take her to the game.

She's 20 days old. I understand.

But she can say she was there. She won't remember it, but she'll be told you actually were.
Who's going to respect that? Who's?

Seriously. Dude, you'll say that.
So it was like when you were a very small baby, you were in the same. If your dad saw Babe Ruth play, that wouldn't be cool.
If he was a baby? Yeah.

No.

He wouldn't remember it.

You went to Kaufman? That was your first game? Kaufman. Kaufman.
Yeah. It was a shit stadium, though.
It's still there.

The fountain. The fountains are great.
You guys should change your uniforms. Why? Because they look too much like Dodgers.
No, they're powder blue. Oh, you are.
Powder blue ones are better.

They used to have like Dodgers' uniforms. No, they had Royals' uniforms.
Maybe you guys copied us.

No way. You guys are

Tech 9?

You guys

have like Brad Pitt,

Brad Pitt from actually, that's a bad poll because where's Brad Pitt from? Just north of Kansas. We talked about Fox Sports.
Exactly. Fox Sports.
Okay. The Brooklyn Nets shouldn't exist.
Agreed.

I live five minutes from the stadium, walking. It's just,

their fans aren't there. No fans.
We had the year they got Katie, Kyrie, and Hardin.

We had season tickets. Yeah.

And my wife, after that year, said, I would rather go to five Knicks games a year

than all of the Nets games. I mean, it's just, I feel bad for them because every game is a road game.
Yeah, no, I, the,

I don't know where, so where, what city, is there a city on the East Coast they should go to? Newark, New Jersey, where they used to be.

They put on for the fucking devils. Here's, I got a good one for you.
Yeah. The Los Angeles Clippers should not exist.
They should go to Seattle. Or Vegas.
Totally agree. Vegas, I don't care.

I'm not from there. The Las Vegas Raiders should not exist, and nor should the A's.
And Oakland should have something.

I agree. Oakland should have something.

But the Raiders have moved so many times.

LA, Oakland, LA, Oakland, Vegas. They're Oakland.
Okay. The best, speaking of Oakland, the best sports movie is Moneyball.

Because they save so much. No,

they do. It's incredible.

What's yours, Titans? No, it's not. Remember the Titans.

Coach Boot, he brought those boys. I mean, taught him how to play.
Objectively speaking, the best sports movie of all time is probably Rocky.

Yeah, I guess so. Raging Bull's pretty great.

That's up there.

The new Space Jam that Braun created. Incredible.

Incredible.

UTA family, Clutch Sports, Rich Paul, Mav Carter. I asked my agents if I could have a meeting with Rich Paul when I go to LA.

I could.

What am I going to talk to him about? I don't know. He'd like you.
Rich is a great guy. Is he? Yeah, Rich is a great guy.
Really?

Yeah. And Maverick's one of my dearest friends.
Really? Yeah.

So

you're like in too deep.

That's why you did that Tuesday take. That was ridiculous.
Tuesday at noon? Everyone should know that a Tuesday is not a retirement.

What the fuck?

What was that?

Did they text you that good one, bro?

Okay.

All right, here's the last one. I'm just putting it out there.
For a million and a half dollars, you can have your way with it.

Literally, I don't care. Freaky, un-Christian, whatever you want.
You could use any hole you want.

I just want to buy a house, really.

I got to imagine you do really well, bro.

It's like good.

It's going to be good, I think. This year has been a

reinvestment cycle.

Oh, reinvest in yourself. You're probably...
Yeah, in my own damn self. I'm drinking water.
Yeah. I'm doing meditation.
How's this going?

Really?

You like me more than Broussard?

I love Broussard, but I like you a lot. Thank you.

As your coworker, you shouldn't be saying that, but kind of.

He's a great guy.

I never do stuff like this ever. Really? Why'd you do it? Because he needs to.

No. He needs to? Why? She thinks I should do more stuff like this, but that's not why I'm doing it.
I'm doing it because I actually.

You like the show? Yeah. I think you do a good job.
We're going to have a Richie Torres moment after this. Okay.
Okay. Last take, and we're going to cut this.

College basketball is bad, but it's not as bad. It's way better than girl.

I think women's college basketball is actually... Women's college basketball.
I think women's college basketball is. I'm talking about the league.
I understand.

I think women's college basketball is more consistently watchable than men's college basketball at this point. Why? Because you're

hoardier for them. No.
Yeah. That's not.
Sexier? No, I think that the men's college basketball doesn't work in its current state. And I think women's college basketball.
The cockpit is too long.

I think college basketball, having people that stay for all four years makes the product really good, and that never happens in men's ball. Steph?

Steph stayed for three, I think.

Oh, he almost got there. Duncan stayed for four, but that's long.
Nerd ass. Nerd ass Duncan.

That's classic Duncan. Fundamentals.

Yeah.

Didn't he learn how to play basketball when he was like 17?

He was a swimmer.

He was a swimmer, yeah. Yeah.
There was like the aquatic center was destroyed. Yeah, he's from the U.S.
Virgin Islands. Yeah, yeah.
Same, bro. Basically.
Not one time. Actually, was that...

Never mind.

Was that where the

Did you are you on the logs or no?

Did you ever meet Epstein?

Oh, that's I didn't know what you were talking about. No.
No.

Do you know anyone that's met him? I don't think so. Can you imagine some guy's like, you want a private plane to a private island and it's my crib.

And then you just walk in and you like didn't expect that.

I think most of the people who went were aware of what was going on. I mean,

I don't, of course. But what if some guy was like, there's this guy, Jeff,

fucking rich.

He's so rich. And then, yeah, he wants to take me to an island.
My goat, Dershowitz, is there.

You're a big Dershowitz fan? No.

The worst guy ever.

Okay.

I think we got it. I mean, like, is there anything you want to debate me on? I can beat you.
Well, that's what. I didn't talk about Kobe, but it's fine.

I don't need to stoop down. like to the level of the the inefficient the math guys you know no he's a he's a great player.
I said he was one of the 10 greatest players of all time.

For some folks, that's not enough because they want

the myth rather than the facts. But being one of the 10 greatest in the history of something is really good.

Like, if at the end of this thing, they were like, the Adam Friedland show is one of the 10 best digital interview shows ever,

you wouldn't be like,

that's bullshit when I'm nine. One B, dude.
One B. Yeah, see? Chelsea lately? One A? Adam Friedland, one B.

I don't know. I hate the math stuff.

Is it race? Is it driven by race?

Is it that it's a white pundit class talking about a black production? So I do think

there is an unintentional element to that

where I think that some of the

it has been a way for people who didn't, especially NBA front offices, way for people who didn't play to get a seat at the table. And in an overwhelmingly black sport,

it has made a lot more, given a lot more white people seats at the table. Oh, I didn't mean it that way.
I mean it like they could like criticize a black player with math.

No, I mean it like that, what, black, what you don't think, are there any players that do the math? No, what I'm saying is the front offices that are dominated by

guys who didn't play, analytics folks, that's overwhelmingly white. And the front offices that are dominated by X players,

that's overwhelmingly blunt right in a front office context I don't mind it but on TV it's just not entertaining okay

yeah the people arguing about efficiency Zach may Zach is the one that's fun about it because he gets so excited I don't even know what the numbers mean well so I yeah so Zach

Zach is the best to ever do what he's doing because he's having fun and because he's smarter than all these guys yeah and so what is

Folks who are not as smart and don't know as much basketball as Zach trying to do what Zach does is a disaster because now it's like, wait, you don't have all the information and you're boring.

That's not going to work. Yeah.

Do you think it's divorced from what is great about sports, though? The math? Some of it, yeah. But you're a math because you're like, LeBron is the best.

No, I mean, I'm a little bit of both, but I do think that. Is your favorite movie, like, the top box office? No.
Yeah. You're like, it's the best movie, it's the best thing.

I think there will be one's the greatest movie ever. Oh, fire, yeah.
Great movie. Best movie.

Wait, so let's, I want to finish this point because I think it's interesting. Like, what do you identify? Like, when you were a kid, calling in, say, Marty Schottenheimer should be taken out back and

fired. Like, yeah, and fired, yeah.
Taken out back and taken out back and

old yeller.

What do we like about it? And why do we get so mad at each other about it? We've been getting along, but when you're on TV, you're pissed.

You get heated about shit, and I don't think you're doing show business. I think you're actually like...
Yeah.

No, I like to...

Much to the chagrin of my lovely wife, who we've referenced a few times, I like to argue. And I really, I have always...
You have to be bad over there? Maybe. I try not to, but it's sometimes hard.

I have always had, maybe it's a mental defect, but it's also probably of what's made me, however good I am at what I do.

I'm really convinced that if after I make my argument, you don't agree with me, you must not have understood my argument. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, everyone feels that way, right?

Well, I think some people have more humility in it than I do.

But I mean, what you're doing on TV is something that people do when they're hanging out, right? Yeah. We do.
At a barbershop, wherever.

And it's like, why does it retain meaning, right, to people, right?

Oh, I don't. That I don't know.
I think it's because we attach narrative to it, right? Yeah. So, like,

Kobe shooting a hundred times and getting a 60-year-old. I think, by the way, way, it's the story of a career, right? Correct.
I don't think there's a lot of criticism of Kobe's final game.

I don't think that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that's what made it special.
Yeah.

It's not debatable. Everyone had a great time watching it.

But it made it special not because of anything other than we thought we'd never see him again. It's like when Tiger won the Masters.

That is,

that's pro. That's one of my two or three favorite sports moments ever.
Yeah. Tiger winning the Masters.
Because when we were kids, he was like, it was

also a kid.

Did you get SI kids?

I got all of it, man. I got

Grant Hill magazine. SI kids.

Growing up, I had every, because ESP and the magazine came out when we were teens.

And I would

read the whole thing and pin it up on my wall. And I had all of them on my wall when I graduated high school.
Do you remember the commercial? With KG and KG and Stephon Marvin. Tastefully done.

I took it serious. They said all nude.
Yeah, they said no bikinis. Yeah.
They're like, the punchline was all nude. All nude.
But tastefully done. Yeah.
I mean, but they actually didn't.

I mean, Fox Sports would never do that. ESPN, they would never lie about putting

real boobs in it. At that age, you're hunting for boobs.
Yeah.

I was like, I gotta get ESP in the magazine because Stephon Marberry told me there's gonna be sluts in it. And there was nothing.

I think that, I mean, if we're really trying to reash that commercial, I think he was implying that he was going to be nude in it. Oh, really? And you had to get it.

It's like, you know, Burt Reynolds, he

posed in Playgirl

and he thought it was because girls were reading it. And then he found out afterwards that it was

gay guys, gay guys. And then he got pissed off.
He was like, what the hell? No, I don't believe it.

Of course not. Dude, this has been a pleasure.
Thank you. Wait.
I should wait.

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