Philly Ruins the Chiefs and Mahomes Craps the Bed With Cousin Sal
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Guest: Cousin Sal
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Speaker 1 Coming up, I went to Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans and I talked to Sal about it. And it's next.
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Speaker 1 I went to Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans. Cousin Sal watched it from home in L.A.
Speaker 1 It was a disappointing game,
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but it had a lot of subplots. And we're going to talk about all of them next.
First, our friends from Pro Joe.
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All right, we're recording about 20 minutes after Super Bowl 59. A true dud, cousin Sal is here.
I was shellacked. My bets were shellacked.
Million dollar picks were shellacked.
Speaker 1 I can't wait to talk about something that happened in the game.
Speaker 1 Mahomes was terrible. Talk slow, Bill.
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I don't want it to end. The season ends after this hour.
So time to talk. Just talk very slowly.
Let's savor the conversation.
Speaker 1 I'm going to talk slow, as slow as that Eagles when they had the interception touchdown
Speaker 1 on the offsides, when the guy just should have basically run back and forth on the one-yard line like you would do in Madden and make one of the Chiefs have to run 70 yards to tackle him.
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He could have run off like a minute of the clock. You're right.
He could have killed the last seven minutes, but it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 Well, so let's go positive because there's so many Chiefs' angles, but let's go positive.
Speaker 1 The Eagles, who had an awesome season, who had three losses that if like three plays went different than the three losses, they were like an undefeated level team. Nobody kicked their ass.
Speaker 1 And then the last two games of the season, they kicked Washington's ass. They kicked the Chiefs' ass.
Speaker 1 How good was this team for you?
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I think they were excellent, and they peaked at the right time. I don't want to take a damn thing away from them.
I mean, I'm a Cowboys fan, so this is a nightmare.
Speaker 1 I mean, just being a Cowboys fan is a nightmare, that part. But
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did you ever, when did you put them in your top three? Because I don't think it's in the last two weeks, maybe the three weeks. It's just weird.
Like we should remember this.
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Like the best team may not even be on our radar until week like 21, but kudos to them. They deserve it.
Both sides of the ball dominant. Good for them.
Speaker 1 Well, we always felt like Baltimore and Philly were the best on paper teams, but we didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 1 And then when you think like Baltimore has got to be just absolutely kicking themselves so hard, where it's like, oh man, we probably could have done what Philly did to the Chiefs and we just weren't able to get to the game.
Speaker 1 But, you know, we knew the defense was there. I remember doing the million-dollar pick scenario on Thursday, and it was like, there were two games I felt like this could be.
Speaker 1 It could either be like that awesome past Seattle game, back and forth, Chiefs win in the end, or it could end up being like that, that Bucs Chiefs game, the 31-9 game, when they couldn't block anybody, when they were off the whole game.
Speaker 1 And we talked on a bunch of different pods about how if you like the Eagles, just take them minus nine and a half, take them minus 19 and a half, just take them in some sort of blowout situation.
Speaker 1 Because if it was a close game, the Chiefs history was they're going to win. You were on Ringer Sunday pregame talking about all the same stats everyone else was.
Speaker 1 17-0 in the one-score games for Mahomes,
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17-3 in the playoffs. The recipe to beat him was to basically beat the shit out of him and blow blow him out, which is easier said than done.
The Eagles did it. It was great.
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I think Mahomes actually may have been smart. He purposely got blown out so that he could still say he's 117 straight, one score game.
He's streaks alive.
Speaker 1 I was like, guys, I got the shrink going.
Speaker 1 It was,
Speaker 1 yes, you're right. I mean,
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this was the recipe. And like these, you know, they drafted all these SEC guys, right? The defensive linemen, all these Georgia guys.
And it's like, maybe the first year or two, they weren't great.
Speaker 1 A A couple of more, Jalen Carter, you could tell was going to be great. But it's almost like they had to go to college a second time in the pros to get great for two or three years.
Speaker 1 And now they're spectacular. I mean, that had to remind you in a bad way of, I mean, it's great because you can brag on Brady now and the Patriots dynasty of the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 I'm sure you don't have the segment for that. But
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on the other hand, this is how the Giants beat the Patriots. This is how the Giants beat Jim Kelly and the Bills, right? This is how Tampa beat the Chiefs a couple of years ago.
So that's
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six sacks. Six sacks with no blitzes.
Like, it's insane. You're, you're, you're toast, if that's the case.
Speaker 1 It was the worst fear if you were a Chiefs fan because you were already nervous about your line. You already felt like you were sneaking by game after game.
Speaker 1 You have a left guard playing left tackle, which we saw Jeff Saturday on Friday night. We were asking him about it.
Speaker 1 Just like, how hard is that to go from guard to tackle? And he was, he was basically saying,
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well, when you're a guard, you're a guard for a reason. Your arms are too short.
You're not tall enough. You're not quite strong enough.
Your footwork's not quite good enough.
Speaker 1 That's how you end up being a guard instead of a tackle. And it's like when you're playing a guard as a tackle, it's usually a little bit of a dangerous sign.
Speaker 1 He meant to say it's as hard as going from NFL analyst to head coach.
Speaker 1 He was good.
Speaker 1 But so if you're the Chiefs, you're going in the game and you're going, well,
Speaker 1 we've gotten pretty lucky in some of these close games. Everyone's taking us.
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And we do have some holes that the right team could maybe get. But the recipe of this game wasn't what I thought, even though it was the blowout part.
Mahomes was awful. Hurts was really good.
Speaker 1 Hurts didn't just outplay Mahomes. Like he badly, badly outclassed Mahomes, which I thought was
Speaker 1 pretty nuts.
Speaker 1 Sorry, my computer's doing some weird stuff. I'm in a hotel room.
Speaker 1 But yeah, I don't have to go into the detail. Oh, weird stuff.
Speaker 1 well i was my hands up on the youtube the whole time i got nervous yeah yeah so hurts how plays mahomes and everybody was saying all week yeah the eagles have a better team but you know qb and coach late game stuff i got to take the chiefs and then the qb coach thing they didn't get either of them no they certainly didn't and now there's a lot of love and probably deservedly so for siriani right he always does make the playoffs all he goes to championship games and won the super bowl and lost one but um yeah i mean i i it looked like he was going to be fired in September.
Speaker 1 It looked like he was going to make it to Halloween. It's really, really weird what goes on.
Speaker 1 And Mahomes, like, I don't want to blame him fully because he's been great and that offensive line just got manhandled. But early on, he didn't help himself out
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trying to wedge, you know, get those passes into Kelsey, who couldn't bend over to catch him. They were bad throws anyway.
And then those interceptions were just abysmal.
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So we can't do the worst jobs. Yeah.
And Hurts was great. Like even Hurts had that on the first drive.
He had a perfect throw down the sideline to A.J.
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Brown that got called back for a pretty shaky pass interference. And then everybody had the same reaction.
Here we go. Yeah.
Yeah. I have all that written down.
Speaker 1 And that is the one good thing about this. Like we, it didn't come down to that.
Speaker 1 And I was like, okay, they called the PI on Brown, but the Eagles got it back on that dumb call, that even worse call on Goddard. So thank God we're not talking about the reps.
Speaker 1 We're not leading with them. I don't even know why I'm talking about him now, but that's the one good thing about a blowout like this.
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But I wasn't sure that Hurts was going to get like MVP until the second half. Until he started running, he ran for like two first downs.
He was really good.
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Cooper Dejine could maybe sneak in, but yeah, they had to give it to him by the end. Yeah, he was, I thought, I mean, he only had five incompletions.
He was 11 for 72 running.
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He had some pretty backbreaking runs at the perfect times. He had some really nice throws.
I didn't feel like other than that pick,
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which it was a pick, but it also wasn't like the worst thing in the world. The guy got tackled at the two.
It was a nice play, and they went three and out.
Speaker 1 I mean, they could not get a first down um early on yeah but you think like barkley was 25 for 57 the chiefs were saying you're not beating you're not beating us with barkley that didn't matter because you know hurts was getting these plays and then mahomes was just awful i mean so i'm looking big picture for the uh
Speaker 1 for the eagles side of this incredible drafting yeah for a couple years in a row which is the key to everything and this was
Speaker 1 as you know obviously was so focused on that 20-year Pats run. And it always ebbed and flowed with the drafts.
Speaker 1 They always had Brady and Belichick, and it always came down to could they get two or three good drafts in a row? And if they didn't, that's when the team started to fall apart.
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The Eagles had the opposite. They just nailed drafts.
They had some luck. Like Jalen Carter falls to nine because he had a pretty terrible car accident or car crash incident with one of his teammates.
Speaker 1 And he falls seven spots lower than he should have.
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Even our guy Coop, I mean, he fell to 39. He was the third best defensive back in the draft.
The Pats passed on him, traded back, passed on him again.
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And it's just over and over again. They're nailing these dudes.
And then Barkley was one of the best signings of the decade.
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Yeah, it really has been just a masterclass for the last two, two and a half years. I'm killing you.
I could see the pain in your eyes. You're like, oh, it's really been a masterclass.
Fuck this shit.
Speaker 1
Like, what could be worse for Cowboys fan? I don't want to make it about me, but that now, you know, Jaden Dennis. That's what we do in this pod.
We make it about us. What do you mean?
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Could be around for a decade in the division. Oh, and the Eagles are great after losing the same last six inexplicably last year.
And my team has gone to shit.
Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, I can't say enough about this Eagles team. I mean, really,
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just, I don't know. But then again, if you look at, if you saw 25 for 57 for Barkley, how much more would we have put on the Chiefs? I know.
It's so you think like even with this,
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even with the playoffs for the Eagles, right? First round, they played Green Bay. Solid game.
Yeah. 22-10.
Shut Green Bay down.
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Offense wasn't great. Some Hurts questions remained.
The Rams game. They're up comfortably the whole game.
Then at the end, defense gets tired and it felt like the Rams were going to steal the game.
Speaker 1
And there were some signs. And it's like Hurts couldn't put them away.
And
Speaker 1 it was like, huh, what's that? But then those last two games, the Washington and the Casey games, are about as skid. And we'd that on the other side of this where we've ridden teams over the years.
Speaker 1 Like the 2000 Ravens was one of my favorite. That Bucs team with Brady, that was another one.
Speaker 1 This was another one of those teams that just got better over the four rounds, had this defense, just felt like they peaked at the perfect time, unlike the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and we did the opposite of peaking. Because all those games you mentioned, the Eagles won the turnover battle, right? And the Chiefs pretty much won the turnover battle, except against Buffalo.
Speaker 1 But you always thought like, all right, it's not going to be the case that the Chiefs are going to get crushed in turnovers, right? And they, right. And it was three to one is a crushing.
Speaker 1 And, you know, 37-23 for time of possession is even worse. I mean, we, you know, Mahomes ends up with decent numbers, but
Speaker 1 we can't say enough. We're saving that for the next segment.
Speaker 1 A couple of things with the Eagles that we should just remember from a playoff manifesto standpoint.
Speaker 1 Casey was negotiating for that three-peat.
Speaker 1 That story came out during the week
Speaker 1 that they were negotiating with Pat Riley about the three-peat and how to pay.
Speaker 1
That's going in the manifesto. I'm putting it next year in the playoff manifesto.
If one team is negotiating for what's going to happen after they win the title, that's immediately a fuck you.
Speaker 1 Like, I wish, I can't believe I didn't like factor that into any of that. Oh, come on.
Speaker 1
You put that right on the chalkboard. This team's already like negotiating after they think they're going to win.
Like, are we going to, it just, I don't know, that seemed like not nothing.
Speaker 1 You don't think? Did Pat Riley bet the Eagles? I mean, that would have been a nice hedge because he lost a lot of money on t-shirts and everything else now for this three.
Speaker 1 But Pat Riley had five million dollars on Barley and Jimmy Butler's first game with the Warriors. And uh, yeah, I guess it is.
Speaker 1 I guess there were a bunch of red, red flags, but there's a revenge thing, too, right? Because they lost to the Chiefs a couple years ago, so that was in there. But
Speaker 1 the lesson for me,
Speaker 1 and this was the single worst game to talk about ever since we've been doing this, because everybody it did almost the analysis didn't matter because it all came down to, well, the Eagles are better really everywhere, but, you know, you can't go against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1
Like that, that was literally including me and including you. It was like that.
So now I feel like we're back. Now we can analyze football games correctly again.
Speaker 1 And now we can actually have takes because the Chiefs have kind of ruined it.
Speaker 1 Like the fucking Luka trade took over the Super Bowl discourse all week because it was like, it wasn't even fun to talk about this Eagles game. Well, now AD is out a month.
Speaker 1
And so now it looks like Dallas didn't get a steal. Like everybody was clamoring that they really won that trend now, though.
No.
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Yeah, you're right. Yes, you're right.
We can go back to,
Speaker 1 I just don't think that, I don't know. Well, yeah, I know we spend like hours talking about, should this be one? Should this be one and a half? Why? Oh, is the number going to flip? It never matters.
Speaker 1 And you're right. We don't have to go because I felt like.
Speaker 1 Anybody I was just at a Super Bowl party who didn't know a thing about football can come in not watching and be like, oh, it's just tough to pick against the Chiefs.
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I'm like, shit, that's what I've been saying with Simmons for the last two weeks. That's what everyone was saying.
I was like,
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should we just lose the world? What is the world since Friday? That was everybody's analysis was, well, you can't go against the Chiefs. Nothing else to add.
The Chiefs are good.
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They win the coach quarterback and they win closed game. So don't, you know, it's a long offseason.
I'll feel okay betting the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 I didn't want to lose this way, though, where Mahomes doesn't show up at all and the line gets, there were like no signs that the line was going to get overpowered. Was it like this?
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I didn't think that was the case. I don't feel.
Why didn't this happen to the Rams? You know, even Washington, like last week, Daniels moved the ball really well against the Eagles.
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And when you look back at the mistakes that they made, it was nothing that had to do with him. He was moving around.
He felt like he was in control of the game.
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And then his supporting cast kind of screwed the game up. So, you know, but on the other hand, they had two weeks to prepare.
They obviously came in thinking, if we can get a lead,
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we can, you know, we're going to be able to dominate this game. And that's what I did.
I was in the, I watched the game. I was in the FanDuel suite.
Our friends.
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Look at you. Yeah.
It was great. It was actually really fun getting some of the insights of, you know, where people had too much money, not enough money, some of the props like that.
Speaker 1
Everybody, the Barkley, Barkley was under on everything. He didn't score a touchdown.
Like, so all those hit. The Kelsey stuff was way under.
Mahomes was under for a while.
Speaker 1 But the big thing they were saying was the line never moved.
Speaker 1 And even though everybody that we saw all weekend in New Orleans was like KC, KC, KC, KC,
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the betting was pretty even. And a lot of the sharp money was on Philly.
So the line stayed the same, which, you know, is usually kind of a red flag.
Speaker 1 I think the public all thinks the Chiefs are going to win, but yet the line's not moving.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And like the adjusted lines won, right? If they did take your advice and take the minus nine and a half and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 And the over, which wasn't looking good for a while, ended up coming in in a big way. So,
Speaker 1 but I mean, there are some, you know, there are some crazy things. I don't know, like Hurts' first touchdown.
Speaker 1 You said they got beat on that, right?
Speaker 1
Oh, let's talk about that. So Dotson catches a long touchdown.
Yeah. Dotson was 85 to 1.
Incredible.
Speaker 1 To be the first touchdown.
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They're celebrating. It seemed like a touchdown, watching from the stance, unquestionably a touchdown.
And then they revealed it. It's like, whoop, not a touchdown.
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All of a sudden, we're tush-pushing. Right.
They had Hurts anytime touchdown. Hurts' first touchdown.
was one of the most popular bets. So that was a loss.
No question. I had both of those.
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And I had under one and a half for shortest touchdowns. So it was either going to come from Hurts or Barkley or Kareem Hunt or something like that.
So that was about the only thing I won. But 85 to 1.
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I know they give money back sometimes. If a guy gets hurt on the first snap, you should get a little money back if you had dots in it 85 to 1.
Right. It's just a pity about it.
Eight-inch line. Yeah.
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Well, I had one of the because Gambling's legal here in Louisiana. So I did a bunch of Super Bowl bets.
And that, and you're not going to believe it, but I didn't do great.
Speaker 1 But one of the ones I had was
Speaker 1 Hurts' first touchdown with Chiefs to win the game, and it was 15 to 1.
Speaker 1 So, Hurts scored, and then you go in the app and you can be like, You can get out of this right now. And I'm like, Do I get out of this? I don't really like the way the Chiefs like
Speaker 1 it's the Chiefs, it's Mahomes. Like, to the bitter end, even when it was what, 17-0 after the pick six, you're going, Ah, this is his 28-3, he's going to come back, and he just never did.
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Speaker 1 All right, so with Mahomes, it was feeling at some point, if you were pro Mahomes, pro, this is the guy on par with Brady, all that stuff. It was like, could this be his 28 to 3 game? Including
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when Coop got the pick six. It's like, oh, we're now following the recipe for the 28-3 Falcons game.
Then it gets to, what was it, 24-0? And it was the same thing. It's like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 This would be it. Maybe we're joking in the suite, like,
Speaker 1 oh, maybe he's doing this intentionally. Maybe
Speaker 1 he wanted to add this degree of difficulty comeback thing to the whole Mahomes goat legacy that he ends up with the 3P with a huge comeback.
Speaker 1 That was not what happened, so it was not even close to what happened. And I got to say, he was terrible.
Speaker 1 he was terrible from the first drive he had that second down pass to kelsey they were moving the ball they got a first down they seemed like they had a little momentum kelsey over the middle and throws it way behind him and i i swear he must have had 10 terrible passes i'm not counting what happened in the fourth quarter the game was over when the game mattered he was it was the worst he's ever played by far We were like, I don't know if you could bet on something like this, but like, do we hear Tuesday that he had rotator cuff tear or something?
Speaker 1 Because
Speaker 1 like a torn labrum. Yeah, or like a hip flexor yeah i don't know because there was a couple places where he was scrambling around and it looked like he seems physically 100
Speaker 1 right and then that that's where it usually hurts you but yeah he could not he could not get it i i didn't know what i was looking at i was like is it raining in there i'm is it poor like it looked like a bad weather game too i just hadn't seen him like that i i don't know i don't count that tampa bay game like when they lost in the super bowl to tampa bay you were like oh well that game was ugly for a couple of quarters and yeah they had they
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thing that happened a couple of days before with this family. And it's just the whole vibe of that game was off.
This was different. This was, he was specifically missing guys.
Speaker 1
Like there was that one when he rolled out and he had Hopkins on the third down. And it felt like he could have scrambled for 20 yards or just thrown Hopkins a good pass.
And he did neither.
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And Hopkins dropped it. But it was like over and over again.
He just sucked. Yeah.
It was bizarre. It was like people were like incredulous in the stadium.
Everyone was like, what's going on?
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Is he sick? What's happening? Your boy was kiddy, kiddy, too. I mean, I don't think he, I think he went like three minutes without talking, Brady.
He was just like giggling in the corner. Good friend.
Speaker 1 Well, that's the thing. If it had been on Mahomes, his version of 28-3 with Brady announcing,
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that would have been great. Instead, this is probably the best moment of Brady's career since he retired because it was a lot of Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes.
Is he the goat? I don't know.
Speaker 1
If he gets his three P, Brady's never done that. And now he goes down with two Super Bowl blowout losses.
Brady's had zero.
Speaker 1
Brady lost three times in the Super Bowl, all one-score games where he had the ball on the last drive with a chance to like steal the game. Never got blown out.
And then
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he beat Mahomes twice. That's it.
2-0 in the playoffs. And it's like, can we fucking settle down now for five years with the Mahomes goat stuff, please? Thank you.
Speaker 1 I think you did buy yourself at least three years. Five years.
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1 Because I thought, like, if he wins four, next year, you could make a good case for it. But you're not going to like this.
Speaker 1 I still think his best Super Bowl in terms of grading this legacy versus Mahomes is the one where he beat Mahomes.
Speaker 1
Now, that wasn't with the Patriots, I'm sorry to say, but I feel like that's his greatest claim. That's his greatest claim to him being better than Mahomes.
Is him crushing Mahomes? Of course it is.
Speaker 1 His best Super Bowls were the Seahawks one and the Falcons one.
Speaker 1 Those were the ones.
Speaker 1 Come back.
Speaker 1 But then that Seahawks game, being down 10, those two drives that he had against Seattle, that was outrageous.
Speaker 1
Well, I'm saying in terms of comparing him to Mahomes, I think you have to do the head-to-head. But I know he's beat him in the chat.
But the three-peat was the only thing Mahomes could have done
Speaker 1 that surpassed anything Brady did. So now, you know, Mahomes is going to be hit his 30s.
Speaker 1 He's 3-2 in the Super Bowl. And the thing about the Super Bowl is it's really hard to actually win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1
Brady made it 10 times. It went 7-3.
He easily could have been 3-7.
Speaker 1 Easley could have been 10-0, you know, but Mahomes, 3-2. So we'll see because Kelsey,
Speaker 1
I think, you know, if they had won the Super Bowl, would Kelsey have retired? I would have bet yes. Yeah.
I don't know what happens with that now. Chris Jones getting older.
Speaker 1
When we talked about hitting the drafts, they hit that McDuffie Carlaftis draft. Looks like they hit the worthy pick, but the offensive line is like really rough.
There's other teams coming.
Speaker 1
The Chargers are going to be better. We saw Tyreek Hill on Friday.
I was trying to get him to come to the Pats. Wasn't happening, but
Speaker 1 there was a team.
Speaker 1 Are you going to to tell him what he said afterwards what did he say after i said come to the cowboys and then he did the eyes thing like i'm looking at you i said you may have to be our running back too he's like that's all right i'm ready so here we go that is good news for dallas well and then somebody that was with him was like watch out for the chargers and walked off i was like what do you mean can we bet this
Speaker 1 i will say though but everyone's going oh the division the coaches are so great in the division you know for the in the afc west look out they're still four games better than any of those teams they're still a a month better than the Chargers, right?
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So, you know, they're not going away anytime soon. I don't think the Chiefs.
As far as Brady goes, if you were in a coma for a year and you came out of it and you said, how is Brady?
Speaker 1 And I would have told you, oh my God, he had his best year ever.
Speaker 1 He took a gigantic leap ahead of Patrick Mahomes. You're like, what do you mean? By doing that.
Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, he was a C-plus in the booth, but this was his best year ever. He somehow
Speaker 1 bought a majority stake of Vegas for $10 million. bucks.
Speaker 1
He's the goat again. The goat almost got taken of him.
Now he's back.
Speaker 1
I thank you for calling him a C in the booth, by the way. Is that generous? Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good teacher. I didn't.
Speaker 1 So tell me about this, the broadcast and Brady and how he was talking about Mahomes. And was there anything interesting? Because I was saying he was just laughing the whole time.
Speaker 1
I thought it was embarrassing. It was like pointing and laughing.
They cut away to him. No, I thought he was just fine.
I,
Speaker 1 you know,
Speaker 1 I'm not one to watch a lot, but
Speaker 1
I have like 44 bets. I'm not kidding.
I have like 44 bets and I'm constantly checking on them throughout, but he was fine. And he was like, sometimes this happens.
And
Speaker 1 it seemed like he blamed the line and praised the Eagles, which he should have defensively more than getting on Mahomes' case. Their defense was, their deep acts were great.
Speaker 1 They broke up that fourth and three that that guy broke on him perfectly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I was thinking about it from a Pat's perspective because just trying to figure out, because they almost have this blank slate for how to put together a team now, right?
Speaker 1
Because they have the coach and the QBA. They have basically nothing else except Christian Gonzalez and Bar Morph comes back.
And it's like, how would you build this team?
Speaker 1
And it really feels like you just spend everything on the lines. You can figure out everything else after.
So there's that Mason Graham, the Michigan defensive tackle.
Speaker 1 And it's like, let's just get that guy. Maybe he could be Jalen Carter and just push the line like that.
Speaker 1 But it would seem like the sweet spot would just be having these four guys that can just push the pocket.
Speaker 1
And then you don't have to blitz, you don't have to do any of this gimmick shit, and then you can kind of patch together everything else. Would be one.
How about the other part of the line?
Speaker 1 The one that Saquon ran for over 2,000 yards.
Speaker 1
You couldn't get it going with the Giants. Like, it's just, it makes a world of difference if you could figure it out.
You know, you don't turn the ball over as much when you own both lines.
Speaker 1
You win time of possession by 13 minutes, 14 minutes in the Super Bowl. It's a pretty good one.
That's why, like, when the Dolphins, they spend half of their salary cap on Tua and the two receivers.
Speaker 1 It's like, what do you, yeah, how's this going to play out?
Speaker 1 I thought the Chiefs fan base, I got to be honest, and I'm sure I say this knowing this will immediately be thrown back at my face with, because the Patriot fans did the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Just needed maybe a 16-ounce cup of settled-down juice. Oh, really? There was the Chets were out.
The Chets were out this weekend.
Speaker 1 I'll just, there was a lot of confidence, rightly so, because they had the best guy in the league and they win every one of these games down the stretch. And
Speaker 1 it was a fan base that maybe needed their version of what happened to the Pats in 07 and what happened to the Pats and the Nick Foles, Doug Peterson Super Bowl and some other great teams where sometimes
Speaker 1
you should have told Ham to calm down. Say something.
Ham was introducing the starters before the game. That's what I'm saying.
It's like, relax. He'll never do that again.
They can't have him back.
Speaker 1
Wasn't Ham a Rams fan for like 40 years? He says he hasn't forgotten that St. Louis, Kansas City thing.
No, he was with the Rams when they moved. He jumped to the Chiefs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Has anyone, have we litigated that? Do we need to have him on the podcast and really like dive into what's going on here? I'm sure, you know, he'll come on.
Speaker 1
You'll get lost in his eyes and you'll be like, all right, that's good. Good enough excuse me.
He's so handsome.
Speaker 1 Can we talk about,
Speaker 1 have you ever seen anything like how bad Mahomes was in this game from a great player standpoint? I was rocking my brain because there was so much dead time during this game.
Speaker 1
I was like taking notes of my, I wasn't expecting to take this many notes, but like I was taking like Magic in the 1984 NBA finals. Sorry, I had to work the NBA in.
There we go.
Speaker 1
But Magic, like, just sucked in the finals. Like, he cost them a couple games.
He wasn't quite Magic yet, though.
Speaker 1 They had won the 80 and 82 titles, but he wasn't like, he's the best player in the league.
Speaker 1 Peyton Manning had that New Orleans Super Bowl where he threw the pick six, and he was kind of the, he was either the best player in the league or one of the best players. Yeah.
Speaker 1 But I can't really remember somebody who was like, this guy, everyone agrees, is the best player in the league, and he's in his prime,
Speaker 1 sucking this badly. It was almost like it was like a Greg Norman golf major
Speaker 1
type of performance. Like the amount of throws that he missed and how frazzled he seemed.
And then they're doing the stats at halftime.
Speaker 1
And this is one of the 10 worst EPAs of the last 50, all that shit. It's like, oh, my God, this is the best guy in the league.
This doesn't happen ever.
Speaker 1 Well, I'm trying to think what were, I mean, you know, you can go like Clayton Kershaw and everything, but I'm not about
Speaker 1 one game. I mean,
Speaker 1 I was thinking about Kobe's picks for 24 the first three quarters of that Celtic game when it when it just seemed like he couldn't hit anything. And he was like,
Speaker 1
They won. He came back.
You want to tell everybody they won? Yeah.
Speaker 1
They did win. I'm trying.
Cam Newton won MVP that year. Denver won MPP.
We never thought Cam Newton was the best guy. He was MVP.
Speaker 1
I know, but nobody was like, Cam Newton is the road ghost through Cam Newton. It was like he had a great season.
No, I get it. I get it.
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1 I guess like Montana against the Giants one year when they knocked him out, but he got knocked out.
Speaker 1 If you're counting on Super Bowls,
Speaker 1
I think this is the best case. I mean, in the 70s, everyone threw for 125 yards and either won or lost.
So L. Way had some bad ones, right, before he won.
Speaker 1
He did, but it always felt like his teams were so overmatched. This was one where I felt like the plays were there.
I know their pass rush was good, but he was also missing everything he did.
Speaker 1 He was missing open guys.
Speaker 1 And it was one of those things that almost became like the Luca trade where you start texting people in the second quarter: like, is he hurt? What's going on with Mahomes?
Speaker 1
What's is there something wrong? Is he sick? What does he have? I've never seen anything like this. So, um, yeah, I'm looking at all of them now.
I really don't think like Carolina scored 10.
Speaker 1 Uh, what did you say? Manning against Seattle? Is that what you were saying? No, Manning.
Speaker 1 Manning again, Peyton Manning against New Orleans when he threw the pick six to lose the game, but it wasn't like he was like horrific the entire game, right?
Speaker 1 You know, Brady's had Brady had some bad playoff losses, like we had a bad loss to the Ravens.
Speaker 1 Um, there was a weird Denver Broncos game after the third Super Bowl they won when he wasn't great, but it never anything like this.
Speaker 1 Where he was, yeah, if you go playoffs, you can probably, maybe pick some off. But Super Bowls, like the big game, if it's down to one game, this is tough.
Speaker 1
I mean, Jim Kelly was great and had some bad ones, but this was a class by itself. I am shocked at this.
I really am. I'm like, me too.
You know, I know we were due for a bad one, right?
Speaker 1
We had three three-point games in a row. Is that right? Yeah.
And then the Tampa, Kansas City was the last bad one four years ago. But it just makes me sadder because the season's ending and
Speaker 1 when it ends on a dud like that,
Speaker 1 it's harder to take. Well, I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of pieces the next two days trying to put this performance in perspective historically.
Speaker 1
Yeah. At least from a football standpoint.
They'll have stats.
Speaker 1 And what he did in the last two drives will kind of fuck it up a little bit because it'll make it seem like it was better than it is. So you almost have to do like
Speaker 1 the first three quarters. Guys, what's the equivalent in other sports of somebody who's fallen behind 40? Tom Brady?
Speaker 1 You're going to compare him to Tom Brady? He, you start calling, compare him to Marsha Brady. How about that? How about we start there?
Speaker 1 Hands flying.
Speaker 1 I don't want to hear about Patrick Mohammed again.
Speaker 1 I don't want to hear about him again.
Speaker 1
That's it. We're done with the goat argument.
That's it.
Speaker 1 I'm there.
Speaker 1
I'm done. Get it out.
Okay. Time to go.
Okay, Stephen A. We're done.
We're done. I'm sorry.
I wasn't even doing Stephen A. I was doing generic
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network ex-athlete guy. All right.
Compared to 20 of them.
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No, I'm sure Stephen A would not be kind of Mahomes. I have some silver linings for the Chiefs now.
Hey, real quick, what was it when I left New Orleans? I left on Saturday. We were sad to see you go.
Speaker 1
Felt like 70, 30 Eagles fans. What was it in the building? Half and half.
Really? A lot of Chiefs fans. Yeah.
A lot. Oh, it didn't sound that way.
Wow. Yeah, the Eagles fans were just louder.
Speaker 1 Silver linings for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1
I think Kelsey comes back now. I don't think he retires on that game.
One more year for him. Another dumb narrative that we got killed on.
What did he have? Two for 24?
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he might have had a third catch in there.
Speaker 1 Another silver lining.
Speaker 1
We could talk about them normally again. Yeah.
They're not Michael Myers anymore. You can't do it anymore.
We can't do the, I I know there's 17 reasons to pick this other team, but it's the Chiefs.
Speaker 1
Like that's done. We can now talk about football games rationally and normally without these fucking weird fear of this team.
Pat Riley doesn't make any money. I think that's great.
Speaker 1 Terrible 2025 Pat Riley.
Speaker 1 Brady wasn't that popular as an announcer. I think that was a win for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 Wait, what? Why? I don't know. I'm just throwing that in there.
Speaker 1 These are silver linings.
Speaker 1 They didn't trade Luka Donchich in the last 10 days.
Speaker 1 They didn't trade Mahomes for Anthony Davis at a number one and then have Davis get hurt in his first game right after they gave an interview about how smart they were because they want guys who were in shape, but then mentioned Shaq as one of the guys, the great guys historically who stayed in shape.
Speaker 1 Shaq, like famously, never in shape ever at any point in his career. That was hilarious.
Speaker 1
I have no more silver linings unless you can think of any. I don't think they're in it for the for the Chiefs.
Yeah. Not too many, except that maybe they could stun us again, right?
Speaker 1 So it wasn't even this year, it was last year when they did it all on the road that we were like, right, oh crap, oh, they're back and they're a beast and they're better than ever.
Speaker 1 Um, I don't know if you want to look at next year's lines yet, or if we save that to the end, or uh, no, I want to, I want to do that next segment. I know, I know,
Speaker 1 so if I'm the Chiefs, if I'm the PR, if I'm the Lewis K of the Chiefs,
Speaker 1 and
Speaker 1 you know, in my spare time when I'm not just focused on,
Speaker 1 you know, my three clients that I care about and I spend barely any time with the other ones. Wait, if you're the Lewis, that means the Chiefs are going to get canceled in like three weeks.
Speaker 1 No, if I'm the Lewis K of the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 So Jimmy would be the Chiefs in this scenario because that would be a client you would actually care about, unlike some of the others.
Speaker 1
I'm spinning it. We were never that good the whole time.
It was amazing we got there. Like, look at our record.
You saw us in the Super Bowl when we played an awesome team. We couldn't hold that.
Speaker 1
We had no offensive line, we had no explosive playmakers. Um, our coaching staff is old, like, it's a miracle we made the Super Bowl.
We should be getting kudos for that.
Speaker 1
Interesting. That would be my spin.
That's what Louis. That's what a couple is supposed to say.
My client,
Speaker 1
yeah. No, it's just be like, no, maybe you should spin it the other way.
We were pretty good. We're proud of the season we had.
Just making the Super Bowl is an achievement. Yeah,
Speaker 1
we've been five Super Bowls. Your Patriots won like the first three Super Bowls by a field goal, right? Yeah.
I think so. So that's what we were thinking.
Speaker 1 But Tom Brady showed up for Super Bowls, unlike Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1
We are fucking back. Drake Day, Mike Brabo.
Tom Brady's the goat. We're back.
Fuck you, Chiefs. Don't you dare call Mahomes the GOAT.
Speaker 1
He is not the GOAT. Take it back.
Get off Goat Island.
Speaker 1 We are going to take a break and then I want to talk about some of the gambling stuff.
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All right, so some gambling stuff from this game. We mentioned the Hurts Anytime TD first touchdown score.
We had a
Speaker 1 Coop had a pick six.
Speaker 1 Yeah. What were the odds on the pick six? Did we know? I think we'd be like 30 to 1, right? 40 to 10.
Speaker 1
I saw 15 that there wasn't pick six, and then it was like 30 to 35 for the Eagles. I think I saw that.
So,
Speaker 1
yeah, that was amazing. Although we saw a few in the playoffs.
Was that the greatest moment ever for a white defensive back? Or do we have to go?
Speaker 1 Do we have to go to like
Speaker 1
Paul Krauss on the Minnesota Vikings? Did he do it? Yeah. Cowboys had a guy named Charlie Waters who did well.
Oh, Charlie Waters. Yeah, I think that's it, though.
I think that's it.
Speaker 1
Don't worry about comparing Mahomes to their bad performances ever. We would need the white defensive backings in Black History Month.
Did Jason Seahor never do this? No.
Speaker 1
He was in that good team, right? That got blown out by the Ravens. Yeah.
That was it.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so at one point in this game,
Speaker 1 Mahomes was... This was with...
Speaker 1 449 left in the second quarter,
Speaker 1 and it's 17-0.
Speaker 1 And the the Chiefs go two terrible runs, Mahomes sack, and now they're giving the ball back to the Eagles again. Mahomes was 5-4-10 for 24 yards, a pick six, and three sacks.
Speaker 1 And this is 25 minutes into the game. It was just shocking.
Speaker 1 Yeah. So
Speaker 1 we were looking,
Speaker 1 how many over the years, how many times when the Chiefs are losing, do we text each other or the Chiefs' live line, right? Stays there.
Speaker 1
We needed them to get a first down in the end of the second quarter. Like, we all got to see some life out of them before we even consider it.
Thank God they didn't give us that opportunity. Well, so
Speaker 1
five for 10 for 24 yards. And then we get to halftime, and it's not much better.
He misses Hopkins on that third and 11. Sal, he ended 21 for 32 for 257 with three touchdowns.
Yeah. He hit every over.
Speaker 1
And I'm sitting there. So this is my bad beat gambling story.
So a million dollar picks. My biggest bet was Chiefs minus one and a half.
That was for 500 fake K.
Speaker 1 And then the second bet
Speaker 1
was a part. parlay.
Yeah. Well, it's fake.
I don't even know. Okay.
Second bet was this 250K parlay.
Speaker 1 Eagles take eight and a half. Mahomes, 200-plus passing yards.
Speaker 1
And I'm rooting. And there's a third leg that I'll get to.
So the 200-plus passing yards seem inconceivable. And then they start having these garbage time drives.
Speaker 1
And when they scored the second touchdown, And he had like 187, 193. They're inside the 15-yard line.
I'm going nuts in the suite. suite.
I'm like, oh, he's going to get it. He's going to get it.
Speaker 1 He gets it. The Eagles go three and out.
Speaker 1
And the Chiefs, and now I'm hustling back to the pod. The Chiefs get the all-time garbage time touchdown to Worthy, and it gets to 62.
The third leg of my parlay was under 60 and a half.
Speaker 1
And the final score was 40 and 22. They scored two touchdowns in the last four minutes to fucking beat.
So I lost that one too.
Speaker 1 I think I had a losing year for million dollar picks because of that last touchdown.
Speaker 1 So the Chiefs just sticking it to me every way i love that these uh you're with these fandal executives they're they're watching through their fingers because of the hurts touchdown they're losing tens of millions of dollars like i'm losing 500 000 fake dollars
Speaker 1 let's get out of here
Speaker 1 well you know house took a shot because uh a christian one of the fando execs who loves house And we're talking about the bets on the Ringer Sunday pregame.
Speaker 1 And he's like, well, House, he did his usual house move of he took the eagles in a tease with the over like classic house like uh kind of getting in but not totally being in like halfway i was like yeah that's house i have a grateful story
Speaker 1 great house story i guess we'll talk about vegas later right we're gonna do all that new orleans yeah new orleans
Speaker 1 it seemed like vegas because we were in a casino yeah and that i have a house should i tell this house story now that like just that oh do it now let's hear it typifies it house
Speaker 1
we're in the casino he goes to the atm because we had a bad run run at blackjack. And I'm proud of you for making us get out.
Like,
Speaker 1 I've known you to sit at the same blackjack table, win or lose, till like five in the morning.
Speaker 1
The five wasn't there. This is Friday night.
Oh, yeah. Three of us.
Speaker 1
I think I was like three out of 15. And House lost like almost every hand.
I don't know how he did it.
Speaker 1
He was, I was like, you're letting us leave. This is great.
Like, a lot of times I would go to the ATM. I'm like, how many times do I have to go to the ATM?
Speaker 1 Is Bill, am I going to lose his friendship if I don't sit and lose more money with Sam? But anyway, so we
Speaker 1
leave the blackjack table. House goes to the ATM.
He's got like a new card or something. It doesn't let him take money out.
So he has to cash advance.
Speaker 1
So he's not getting the $12 vig that you would normally get on $30. $330 to take out.
It was $344. He had to take out.
And he had to wait on the long cashier line to get that money out.
Speaker 1
Now he had to show his slip. And then he doesn't even gamble with us.
He didn't gamble.
Speaker 1 So we ended up at a craps table with
Speaker 1
fantasy football guys. He got vigged out.
He said no. After he lost to the ATM, he said no.
Like, that's responsible gambling. He's like, I can't even beat the ATM.
I'm out. I'm not playing.
Speaker 1 But for some reason, paid them 40 extra dollars
Speaker 1
not to gamble. Yeah.
So we ended up at a craps table with Craig and Danny and Danny from the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, who were having a great time playing cross.
Speaker 1 And JJ is there. JJ Jadrzkrepsky, host of New York, New York, who's had a couple and
Speaker 1
is dialed up to 10. And it was, he was locked in.
He's yelling at dealers.
Speaker 1 He's hitting points, going, pay it, pay it,
Speaker 1 screaming, screaming.
Speaker 1
And then Raheem comes in, also from the Ringer Sunday pregame. Yeah.
And he's not really doing anything. And then all of a sudden, he just bets on the don't come line.
Speaker 1 for the shooter across the table because he thinks the guy looks like a bad bet.
Speaker 1 And we're all on the come line, which is like on on the poker table for the craps table people listening. Like, y'all want the craps table to be aligned betting on the shooter, rooting for them.
Speaker 1
Like there's this weird dynamic that develops. Raheem's just shorting it, basically.
The guy hits and JJ just gets mad at Raheem, which he should have.
Speaker 1 It's like, don't take sides against the family, Raheem.
Speaker 1 This is indefensible. Indefensible, Raheem.
Speaker 1
He's yelling at him. And I was like, it is.
It's indefensible. So Raheem ends up not doing it.
So anyway, Raheem became the don't come guy.
Speaker 1
But we were there. House is there.
Van is behind us. We're all pooling bets together because it's a $50 crabs table, which is absurd.
And we ended up, we were there till almost four in the morning.
Speaker 1
We were there. We were down to, we saw it like 600, right? We were down to 40 bucks in the tin, right? Yeah, we just couldn't get momentum.
Built it back up to 1400. So that was nice for us.
Speaker 1
And that's real. That's not like million dollar pill.
That's real money. Yeah.
Craig had a nice little run. Yeah.
Speaker 1
And then at the end of the night, I had like, I just got on a heater and I just wasn't throwing a seven for like 30 minutes. Yeah.
It was great.
Speaker 1 But what happens is when you, when you start doing one like that and more and more people come over to the table and people start betting and everyone's betting points and it's like three minutes between throws.
Speaker 1
I know. That's you're just like, I'm hot.
Get me the dice back. And this guy's like, give me a hard 10, give me a hard six, give me two on this.
Speaker 1
And it's, and by the time he, so I, I, I, could I, I blame the guy at the other side of the table. You know what? I don't blame.
I think it's, I think it's intentional.
Speaker 1 I think they slow play it because we were pretty conservative. We were playing the pass line, then we were playing
Speaker 1 fun and we were playing the comp. But if you get bored and they take forever, that's when you're like, shit, if I have to wait three minutes between each roll, I'm going to play the field.
Speaker 1 I'm going to play a couple more numbers. I think that's where they rake you out.
Speaker 1 You were getting mad because there was a guy on the other end of the table who was pumping his fist because you were hitting every number except ours, right? Right.
Speaker 1 This guy probably made 15 grand off of me. You know, it's like getting crazy.
Speaker 1 See, motherfucker, you're icing me and making money for me at the same time then we finally hit the number and then the best part was there's some bet that the fantasy guys were doing which is like you can bet eight nine ten eleven twelve and somebody has to hit all five of those numbers before they throw a seven and it's 30 to one odds it seems inconceivable
Speaker 1 and i was throwing it for so long only the 11 was left and then i finally hit the 11 and i've never seen those guys happier they were like they were joint first of all they were arm in arm like you should post that they were a lot i should post that picture on instagram for like 40 minutes whenever they weren't rolling they were like come on we could do this they were locked arms together
Speaker 1 they were like when the defensive line is watching somebody about to attempt a game-winning field goal they had their arms around each other but but literally for an hour yeah i love it it was a damn kelly right that when they what he they had a bet i don't know what the bet was but between the three of them whoever lost i think it was like a season-long bet whoever lost had to sit in the middle seat coming home and they were on my flight and couldn't be entertained couldn't listen to music couldn't watch tv couldn't read a book the whole time and if they fell asleep they would just wake them up and danny was in the middle they let him watch the map they let him watch the map on the dopamine flight i was like these guys are good this is it that's hilarious yeah it was great it was a good hang every everybody was in rare form including raheem who was trying to short the table for some reason
Speaker 1 i'm going to talk to hr about raheem i know it might have been an hr violation yeah it might have been a little bit jj was jj was the mvp though and he blew out my right eardrum.
Speaker 1 And uh, I was covered in spit by the end of the night, but I loved it.
Speaker 1 It was great when he showed up, you turned around to greet him, and you were about to roll, and so you took the dice over the table a little bit. Because I got excited,
Speaker 1
that's a dice violation. I'm like, oh, and then I'm calling it like an announcement.
He's got one more dice violation, then he's out of here. He's going to have to go back.
It's like a flagrant foul.
Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. But then when you roll it and would kick off the table, JJ would yell, same dice, same dice.
Speaker 1
He'd yell at the dealer, and the dealer's like, It's not, you're not even rolling. Shut up.
I know.
Speaker 1 He had the superstition about same dice.
Speaker 1
I gotta say, he really did get the energy going. Screaming, pay it at the dealer.
You're not gonna believe it, but the dealers,
Speaker 1 they don't love being screamed, pay it. Right.
Speaker 1 You hit the eight, pay it, pay it.
Speaker 1
And that's all for you, bro. Do what you want with this.
This is a dollar. So that casino used to be called Harris.
Speaker 1 And I guess technically still is, but now it's a Caesars. But
Speaker 1 I've had, I think, of the most fun gambling moments of my life,
Speaker 1
for some reason, at least five or six of them have been. It's just my favorite place to probably play Blackjack or Craps.
The dealers are all nice. They're all from Harris.
They seem like they are.
Speaker 1 And they're just like, they move at a pace so you feel like they're not just trying to rush you out. You know, it seems like they're rooting for you.
Speaker 1
Like when you bet for them, they really appreciate it. And I really always really enjoyed it.
It's right in the middle of downtown.
Speaker 1
You can leave and just walk to where you're going. I thought it would be packed, by the way.
I was there the night before. We could have sat any blackjack table on
Speaker 1 Thursday night. Well, they checked Friday night.
Speaker 1 Yeah, but $50 is a, you know, in Vegas, that's any Saturday night, right?
Speaker 1 I guess.
Speaker 1 But it seemed like everything was $50, $100. So I think it was scaring off people a little bit.
Speaker 1
Any other gambling stuff? Jake Elliott was way over on all his total points. I thought he had a shot at MVP for a minute.
I mean, he had four extra points and four field goals.
Speaker 1 He actually had to kick seven field goals, but with all the false starts and everything.
Speaker 1 Hurts MVP was what?
Speaker 1
Plus 280? Yeah, plus 280. But Hurtsmost rushing yards was like six to one, I think, right? Oh, did that hit? Yeah, he had 72.
Barkley had 57. And then Mahomes at 25.
Speaker 1
Like that was the highest on the Chiefs. So that triple crown bet that I stayed away from because it seemed like just a trap.
It seemed like impossible to hit all three.
Speaker 1
It ended up being Mahomes passing, Xavier Worthy receiving. And Hurts rushing.
And Hurts rushing. So I wonder what that must have been like 20 to 1.
I have no idea. What are the odds of that?
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least.
Yeah. Worthy had probably like the sixth or seventh best odds.
Triple crown bet. That was bizarre.
Can't recommend it. We both had Hurts touchdown, right?
Speaker 1 I mean, I guess that's good that we did that.
Speaker 1 I don't want to talk out of school, but
Speaker 1
I wouldn't call the FanDuel guys elated that the game went over. No.
I wouldn't say there was high-fiving in the suite.
Speaker 1 And the Mahomes yardage props going up.
Speaker 1
I wouldn't say that was a high-five special either. No way.
The Kelsey and Barkley stuff. They told me, and I said this on Million Dollar Picks, that the...
Speaker 1 The most one-sided bet of the week from a prop standpoint was Barkley to score a touchdown. Oh, really? It's like 99.9% of the bets were on it.
Speaker 1 And the no TD was plus 150 and there were like, it was like $0 on it or like $7 or something. You know,
Speaker 1
Barkley ended up not getting it. It's his birthday on Sunday thing picked up steam like somewhere around Friday.
And I was like, I don't think that matters. I really don't.
Speaker 1
I think if he scores three touchdowns, I don't think we have to say it's because he turned 28 today. There's nothing to do with it.
I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 Especially it's not like it's like a major birthday. It's like, oh, cool, 28.
Speaker 1 How do we feel about any other betting stuff that you wanted to hit? What was going on at the Super Bowl party you went to? Yellow was plus 280.
Speaker 1 Tails for the coin toss.
Speaker 1 Tails for the coin toss.
Speaker 1 Let's get rid of the anthem betting because it went over, but they're grading it under, I think, because
Speaker 1 he said.
Speaker 1 He repeated a line three times,
Speaker 1
like just for flair, just to show off. He said the land of the free because he bet the over, I think.
And the land of the free, and the land of the whatever it was he did. Why didn't that count?
Speaker 1
That was his performance. I don't know.
You can't do that. Well, you can't like sing the song and then ad where you can't launch into American Pie like halfway through the song.
Speaker 1
It's how long the performances it was two hours, two minutes, and whatever. You can't pay.
And then, of course, it was closed and they cut to the fighter jets.
Speaker 1 And you never know when the word brave ends because it's loud. But
Speaker 1 I don't want to hear ever again that John Batiste's the national anthem goat.
Speaker 1 Get that shit out of here. Was mahomes listening to the anthem i don't know i don't think so was he thrown up about the anthem because there's no other excuse
Speaker 1 john batiste held the ball would hold the note longer than mahomes could hold the ball after patrick mahomes get out of here just get out you gotta leave the nightclub you're out oh
Speaker 1 um well mahomes hit all the overs he hit his touchdown over
Speaker 1 did he hit how many rushes did he have because that was another one he needed what four and a half right
Speaker 1 so he didn't hit any of the rushing stuff i know we were counting on the kneel downs you know that's that's an underrated aspect of the game that we didn't talk about like we could we could kill mahomes but they had 24 yards rushing outside of what he did you could get him a running back at some point hunt three for nine pacheco three for seven that was like one of the reasons i loved all the mahomes overs when i was planning the game out in my head was i didn't think the chiefs were going to be able to run the ball and it turns out they didn't think so either because they started the game and they basically threw the ball every down, it seemed like.
Speaker 1
And they were trying to keep the seven carries outside of Mahomes's. Yeah.
Didn't work. Did you have Matt Ariza punting for over 310 yards? No.
No, I did not. Was that even a bet?
Speaker 1 Did you bet on the total number of punting? Yeah, I think they did. I think they did.
Speaker 1
That's a pretty good one. Wait, how many did he have? He had six punts.
Yeah, 311. Six months for 311.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Weird game, man.
Speaker 1 Elliot.
Speaker 1 50-yard field goal. Oh, you had people in the suite were congratulating me on your behalf that you, the Devontae Smith, that long
Speaker 1
pass. That was one of your favorite props.
20 and a half. Yeah.
I mean,
Speaker 1
he had killed this defense, Spagnola's defense. I mean, that's another thing.
Spagnola's got to take a hit, too. But yeah, his last three games were averaged like 95 yards against Casey.
Speaker 1 It's tough, though, when
Speaker 1 your offense is such dog shit. I think it has to start affecting the defense at some point because the defense can't get a couple stops.
Speaker 1 And, you know, they got the interception when it seemed like the Eagles might be going up 14-0. They got the ball back, and it's just over and over again.
Speaker 1
They were just getting kicked in the nuts by the offense. Yeah.
It's unusual.
Speaker 1 We'll take one more break and then we'll talk about your week in New Orleans
Speaker 1 plus some look-ahead bets for next season.
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Speaker 1 Two legends fell this season, me and Guest Alliance. That's right.
Speaker 1
It was always like, well, Simmons, when it gets to the big moments, he'll win and Sal's going to lose again. You beat me.
And then Mahomes, he got kicked off Goat Island.
Speaker 1 And the Chiefs are now mortal. And now we can actually talk about them rationally again.
Speaker 1
And we could talk about the refereeing. I was like, it was really getting me mad.
You saw like me and Hench going at it. I'm like, yeah, you got mad at Hench.
Speaker 1
I know, but everybody's got to go crazy with the calls. And it was like, you know, he got Brown.
A.J. Brown passed interference.
He started the game.
Speaker 1 He like, he, he hit the guy in the face mask three times. Everyone's like, that, you know, when the booth says,
Speaker 1 oh, man, I don't know if I call that there. That doesn't mean it was a terrible call.
Speaker 1 Like, why do we have to make that leap from, eh, that could have gone either way to, oh, my God, that was the worst call. Oh, it's fixed.
Speaker 1
Calm the hell down, everybody. Geez, but at least we don't have to worry about that for a minute, I hope.
I don't know. It's nice to not have to talk about the referees.
Speaker 1 So we have NFL next year i'm going on
Speaker 1 going on fan duel right now do you have the odds i do okay
Speaker 1 i'm gonna see if i can find eagles and chiefs favored wow
Speaker 1 that never happens
Speaker 1 what anything surprise you on those odds i'm seeing 650 plus 650 for chiefs and eagles ravens 7 to 1 bills 8 to 1 lions 9.
Speaker 1 oh i that lions 9 to 1 and
Speaker 1 niners 14 to 1 i'd like to i'll I'll book those bets from people if
Speaker 1
they want. Those two.
I think those are. So we should talk about this with the Chiefs too.
Speaker 1 I don't think the Chiefs have missed their long-term window, but I wonder like how much rehab repair they have to do with this nucleus they have.
Speaker 1
Because they have a lot of stuff to fix, but they're also, they have money going out in all these different directions. Right.
You know, it's not like, oh, we need a left tackle. Cool.
Speaker 1
Fucking 12 teams need a left tackle. You're not the only one.
You drafted a left tackle last year at the end of the second round.
Speaker 1 If you missed on that pick, that's what gets into what we talked about earlier with if you start missing these drafts or missing picks, it starts to have this cumulative effect.
Speaker 1
So that the stuff that they need, it's not like you just go to the store and buy it. Like everyone wants a left tackle.
But we talk about the, what do we call it? The KCD?
Speaker 1
Like it's a CD, like plus 650. You keep pounding it.
They'll win once in the next six and a half years, right? So that should, that should be okay. But I also think these other numbers are fair too.
Speaker 1
Like the Ravens have to be licking their chops a little too. The Bills at eight to one.
Your team, I got scared. I thought my team and your team were the same.
Cowboys, 55.
Speaker 1
You want to guess the Patriots? Don't look. I just looked, but tell us anyway.
150.
Speaker 1
Fourth from the bottom. Is that fair? Ridiculous.
I promise you we won't be the fourth worst team. I love this.
I love it. We're going to go 10 and 7 next year.
Wow.
Speaker 1
Yeah, we're going 10 and 7 next year. I don't know that for a fact.
If we hit the base. Just because Brady is better than Mahomes conclusively, it doesn't mean the 2026 Patriots are going to be good.
Speaker 1
It's not just that Brady is better than Mahomes. Mahomes has to leave Coat Island.
Get off.
Speaker 1
Take a hike. Get a suitcase and leave.
Take your wife with you. Take your dad.
Take everybody. You're out.
You could take a ferry. You could swim back.
You could jump on a raft. I don't care.
Speaker 1 Get off the island. You're off Coat Island.
Speaker 1 You can take Donna Kelsey. Take her, too.
Speaker 1 But just looking at these blindly, Chargers 29-1 jumped out of me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Commanders 23-1 have to be taken seriously because they laid a nice foundation, have a good QB and a good coaching staff, and have some stuff that they can do in the offseason.
Speaker 1
What about the Rams at 30? I know it went a lot. Well, it seems like they're selling off guys, though.
Like they're trading Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1 What did he do?
Speaker 1 He wasn't key to their success.
Speaker 1 They kind of played the Eagles Eagles better than anybody, though. Is Minnesota at 33 to 1 nuts?
Speaker 1 Like, what if J.J. McCarthy is good next year?
Speaker 1 Right.
Speaker 1 I was going to say, what if I told you Sam Darnold sat in an aisle seat and coached with me on the way back? Does that true? Does that affect your odds anymore?
Speaker 1 Did that happen? It did. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1 He's going to sign like a 50. Well, maybe he couldn't find a flight.
Speaker 1 It was a tough flight
Speaker 1
to book if you wanted to. You're trying to leave New Orleans on a Saturday.
Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker 1 Baltimore 7-1.
Speaker 1 I wish those odds were better because that's a team I would think too.
Speaker 1 If they were in the 10-1 to 12-torn range, I'd be excited about it. Green Bay 8, 2-1 will be a sexy pick.
Speaker 1 I'm not doing it. Houston, 27-1 with some receivers coming back and a couple more draft picks, maybe.
Speaker 1 Bad division.
Speaker 1 I don't know. I like the Rams, and I like
Speaker 1
the Bills again. The Bills, also, we didn't talk about them.
How pissed must they be that they couldn't beat this Chiefs team, get to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 Or that they couldn't do anything against the offensive line like what the Eagles did.
Speaker 1 You watched the offensive line this week, and you could tell pretty quickly because they were doing those design rollout plays that gave me PTSD to Brady against the Giants that first Super Bowl.
Speaker 1
Yeah. When he was under such siege, he had to like do the quick rollouts with extra lockers, plant your feet, and then chuck it.
And they were running those in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 And I thought, I was saying to Tommy, who I went to the game with, I was like,
Speaker 1
this is not good if they're running that kind of shit. That means they think they can't block these guys at all.
Tommy Hearn. And then we could watch Tommy Hearns.
Speaker 1
Tommy Hearns was with me. But you could see it.
I don't know what I was picking up during the game that whether the TV was, but you could.
Speaker 1
You could just watch the four guys pushing the line and all the other guys kind of coming back. And the Chiefs' receivers weren't really good enough to get open, you know.
So, Mahomes
Speaker 1 advantage in sports being able to rush a quarterback without blitzing.
Speaker 1 Yeah, so Mahomes was bad because he missed guys, but I could also, there were other plays where he just didn't have guys, there was nobody to throw to.
Speaker 1
You didn't want to throw interceptions real quick. MVP, don't look.
Who do you think's favorite?
Speaker 1 No, it just looked.
Speaker 1 Well, we would have said we would have said Lamar or Josh.
Speaker 1
Yeah, Lamar plus 450, Allen, 500. It's Drake May.
Holmes, 700.
Speaker 1
Oh, Drake May, 60 to 1. He's not on there, is he? Yeah, he sure is.
He's right in there with Sam Dardle and Michael Pennix. Sam Dardley.
Just a whim and Geno Smith.
Speaker 1 By the way, Bryce Young is on there too.
Speaker 1
I went to a party yesterday that Shaq was at and Bryce Young, and they were talking to each other, and it was amazing. It was like Mr.
Work in tattoo. I was like fascinated.
Speaker 1 He was a foot and a half smaller than than shaq
Speaker 1 does he is smaller because he's smaller i mean everyone's smaller than shaq but he but he's
Speaker 1 bryce young's 5'8 and shaq's like 7'1.
Speaker 1 it was just amazing to see them next to each other and be like which guy's the professional athlete right now shaq is always at any party is uh just ribboning he's the best shaq he's he's the best guy he's like the nicest guy he's the coolest guy to everybody he's like just really a genuinely nice guy but he's also gigantic he looks like Shaq.
Speaker 1
You just see him moving through. You can't not see him.
Everybody's looking at him. He handles it great.
He's just a nice guy. He's got to be the greatest on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 1 You can sit on his shoulders. You don't have to deal with the slop and everything.
Speaker 1 He's a practical joker. He'll slap guys in the ass with beads and look the other way.
Speaker 1 He's the best athlete to play.
Speaker 1 Barkley's the best celebrity I've ever seen in public just with how he navigates all the people around him. Because he's big.
Speaker 1 He's obviously 6'6 ⁇ , so you notice him right away, but he just loves every people just gravitate to him. Shaq's a little like that, too.
Speaker 1 So we have any other future ads?
Speaker 1 I guess they have like who's trying to share.
Speaker 1
Give me some of the New Orleans highlights. You were here doing a bunch of great ringer stuff, including getting hit in the face with a slim gym.
Yeah, that, yeah, Paige
Speaker 1
hit me. I was doing a prop challenge with a bunch of celebrities and sports personalities, and we put a video together, and you can catch it.
It's all up on the ringer.
Speaker 1 One of them, we had Paige come over and she's an influencer. I don't know if people don't, people know who she is, right?
Speaker 1
And we had a bunch of challenges. We listen, oh, you could hit this golf ball.
I know she's into golf. You could catch this roll of toilet paper.
Speaker 1
We could do a Slim Jim slap fight. And she's like, I want to do that.
And so we each hit each other with a Slim Jim and I hit her lightly as a gentleman. And then she gets, stands up.
Speaker 1 and smacks the crap out of me in the neck with a slim jim and i welt on my neck for the next i'm like interviewing marshall falk with this giant welt on my neck.
Speaker 1 And I'm like, when did the welt go away? Like,
Speaker 1 like on the plane, when you saw me, like it was still, it was dark, so you probably couldn't tell, but uh, it was staring at me at the craps table.
Speaker 1 But yeah, so I was like, wow, she has, this has to, it's got over a million views. I'm like, how does I make this the biggest thing I've ever done and my wife not find out about it?
Speaker 1
It's um, so anyway, um, that was a lot of fun. It was a lot of great stuff.
On uh, JJ said, don't put makeup on that welt, bro. Roll the dice, same dice, same welt.
Don't go against the family.
Speaker 1 Don't have a watch. Same welt.
Speaker 1 Can we do a fandil show where just people play crafts with JJ after he's had three drinks? I feel like that would be an amazing show. How does he gain steam at four in the morning?
Speaker 1
Like, it's so crazy. He, man.
He's like when you turn the TV up, the volume up, and it's just going, and that's just the volume. And never, there was no sign at all of him being tired.
Speaker 1
I think he would just, he'd still be there if we didn't want to leave. The Fandle ring of party was great Friday night.
We had Megan Dee Stallion and Blink 182.
Speaker 1
I guess they insist on touring together. I don't know.
I didn't know. Yeah, I couldn't believe they played all those songs together, too.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 We talked to some fun people.
Speaker 1 I'd never talked to Diana Rossini before.
Speaker 1
She's a delight. We talked to her for like a half hour.
And she's like seven of your cousins. Yeah, she is.
It's like the honorary member of your family almost. The good ones.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 I thought, you know, she was great. I thought the Tyreek Hill announcing he's playing for the Cowboys was going to be the highlight, but she was up there too.
Speaker 1 that was a fun yeah we talked to some fun people i got you know i've been to a bunch of different super bowls i hadn't come in a while there was the one in la that doesn't count that was the last the last super bowl that was in la that i went to was ironically ravens niners i just kind of thought
Speaker 1 really yeah
Speaker 1 i hadn't gone hadn't gone forever and
Speaker 1 um liked watching the game i liked doing the pod with you after the game and i just kind of never never went never wanted to go for the pats after the second giants game because it was it was just so emotionally it's so bad to be there when your team like I was feeling for the Chiefs fans, when you're limping out of out of the stadium, it's the worst.
Speaker 1
It's and the other, you half of the people are the happiest, and you're just like in fucking sports hell. It's the worst.
So last time it was in New Orleans, I you remember I had to do a bit.
Speaker 1 You had to do the bit, yeah. For Grantley, yeah, it was a Sal hugs fans of the losing team.
Speaker 1 And I wasn't quite sure who the losing team was because we had to leave and set up in a good spot before the last drive. It was Ravens.
Speaker 1
Who was it? Ravens 49ers. It was Ravens Niners.
That was the blackout game. That was Kaepernick.
Yeah, we were watching that.
Speaker 1
First down and goal from the four, and they don't score the go-ahead touchdown. And payments.
It was just zombies walking out of there. Like a lot of people are like, get the fuck away from me.
Speaker 1
I'm not hugging you. I don't know who you are.
Get the cat. Yeah.
So
Speaker 1 it's a big risk going down there
Speaker 1 if your team's playing. I mean, Chiefs fans must be demoralized tonight.
Speaker 1 Well, the other, so I saw Pat's Rams was the first Super Bowl I ever went to, which was like, honestly, one of like the 25 best moments of my life, probably that whole day. It was amazing.
Speaker 1
And then the second game was the blackout game. And so when I had a chance to go to this one, I was like, this is going to be an amazing game.
It's the Super Dome.
Speaker 1
This is just going to be magical. And everything was great except for the game.
But New Orleans is the funny thing about New Orleans is it just never changes.
Speaker 1
Like you go to you go to and I mean that in a good way. It just feels exactly like it did 23 years ago.
All the streets are the same. All the, a lot of the hotels are the same.
Speaker 1 They don't really, it's not one of those places where there's like 17 crazy new things that are up.
Speaker 1 They just really keep the soul of the place intact. It's really a special place.
Speaker 1
I love it. And it was especially like, I don't want to bum everyone out, but, you know, there was a, you know, it was a National Guard presence in the streets because of that asshole last month.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 That, you know, that, that attack. Yeah.
Speaker 1 So that like, that was a bummer, but the spirit of the city, I mean, it's one of,
Speaker 1 would you keep it if they said bill three or four cities rotating, or do you just do New Orleans? Do you Vegas? I said this for 20 years. No, to me, it's Miami, New Orleans,
Speaker 1
Vegas. That's it.
And I think you can make a case for L.A. because of,
Speaker 1 but it's like, you know, it's a little spread out. I think if you're just I was watching the Rose Bowl highlight.
Speaker 1 I mean, that's my favorite game of all time anyway, 52-17 Cowboys over Bills, but it just looked beautiful, right? With the sun setting and everything. Like, it's nice to have an outdoor option, too.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I would say New Orleans, Miami, and Vegas for the way the city kind of blends in with the game.
Speaker 1
When it gets like they've, they'd love to have it in like Glendale, but Glendale, people are staying in Phoenix. They're staying in Scottsdale.
It's all over the map.
Speaker 1 It seems like they're getting out of the habit of putting it in cities just because they built a stadium.
Speaker 1
Like when they were in that with Jackson. Yeah, no, Atlanta.
We don't need Atlanta. We got New Orleans.
Yeah, I would, I would go New Orleans 10 times over Atlanta.
Speaker 1 Well, the other thing with New Orleans is it's really hard to get hotel rooms here. So
Speaker 1
the ticket demand, it's almost easier to get tickets than it is a hotel room anywhere near where the game is. So a lot of people.
Tickets were down lower than
Speaker 1
face value, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Tickets dropped
Speaker 1
and you could get it on the market today for face value or lower. But what you couldn't get was a hotel room because there was none.
And it's really hard to get in and out, obviously. But
Speaker 1 that's why they dropped, right? Because
Speaker 1
if you're not going to get in a hotel, then the tickets drop. It's a fascinating market.
Yeah, did we Super Bowl in Dallas? Did we do that? Yeah, we did. I went to that one.
Speaker 1
That was kind of, I thought that was a pretty good one. The weather was terrible, but it was, you know, that was okay.
But yeah, wouldn't you say Vegas, New Orleans, and Miami?
Speaker 1
Those are the four. I would add LA back into it.
I really love watching that, those Rose Bowl games. But yeah, if you have to go three, I think those are the three.
Speaker 1 Because San Diego's out because they don't have a team. Right.
Speaker 1
So they can't have it anymore. Yeah.
Yeah. So they try Atlanta.
I'm just trying to think of the southern, the hotter cities that we don't need to see in that anymore.
Speaker 1 Well, one of my things, I really didn't want to, this is a bad city for me. And you've seen it in action, especially like the Super Bowl 12 years ago and NBA All-Star and just bad.
Speaker 1 It's a lot of bad choices here in New Orleans. It's not,
Speaker 1
and I, I'm not unproud of the decisions. It's just like you kind of lose.
It's got food that you probably shouldn't keep eating, but you can't help it. It's got the best dessert.
It's got the casino.
Speaker 1
It's got a bunch of other stuff. It never closes down.
And
Speaker 1 you can really make some mistakes. And
Speaker 1
I try to be on my good behavior. I was so proud of myself.
Didn't have a drunk cigarette. No cigarettes? I bet over one and a half cigarettes.
No, you lost.
Speaker 1
That was in hell. Yeah.
I lost all my prop bets. You lost on that and you lost on Mahomes.
Being good at it.
Speaker 1 And you can forget about going to Santa Clara next year for the super bowl the 29th worst city to have a super bowl by the way oh that's so that's the other thing we were talking about is like next year is santa clara which is like i we did the we did the wrestlemania in santa clara it was a mess and that was wrestlemania super bowl is like a way bigger event it's really hard to remember
Speaker 1 yeah i know yeah new orleans great job as a great city great food love being here it's a one of a kind i said wednesday i was like i have to mix a blackened chicken salad into this
Speaker 1 this rotation because
Speaker 1
I'm just going to die with these roasted oysters with Parmesan. This is the best thing I've ever had.
Never got it. Never got it.
So I can kill over any day. Never happened.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they're frying just, and they'll fry anything here. Yeah.
Speaker 1
They just don't care. Anything's possible.
Anything else you want to hit from the week?
Speaker 1
That's it. I mean, I have like a parent corner kind of thing, but I don't know.
Is that another break?
Speaker 1
No, do a parent corner. We're good.
Well, well, first of all, you know, I went to a small party.
Speaker 1 Oh, no, before that, what's the age where you stop buying your kids anything at the airport when you come home from a city or a game? Or think about bringing them home a gift or anything? Yes.
Speaker 1
I'm going to say probably age seven or eight. Thank you.
Okay, good. Yeah.
All right. I win that argument.
I'm going to, I'm going to quote you as the gospel. I don't
Speaker 1
hear why I have to hear from everybody. I didn't bring a gift back.
These kids are bigger than that. People who make you feel bad? Who made you feel bad? Of course.
Yeah, the people in this house.
Speaker 1 The second thing is, you know, I've been down on squares and pools and and stuff for Super Bowl, but when I see how excited the kids get and it's like their first
Speaker 1 dipping their toe into gambling, I like the Super Bowl squares, pools at parties now. I really do.
Speaker 1 And even though it's me collecting at the last second and drawing the numbers like while they're kicking off and everything, it's terrific. I hate putting it together.
Speaker 1
And then I see like kids like, no, I know I have 2-1. Like, oh, no, all the mile-wide.
They're going for two-point conversions.
Speaker 1 Like eight-year-olds screaming at each other whether they should go for two two points or one so um i'm backing well this one with the zero that's zero two is the final could not have been on a lot of uh zero two not good yes that's not something you would buy from fan yes yes seriously but uh my my oldest kid who's in oregon won because i put his name in and he's like uh he's like you know what just give it to all the little kids at the party and i was like well you're no son of mine i would never do that but sure i'll do that so that's that um that's really the paranoid i'm i'm back in on squares.
Speaker 1 But also, is this the biggest Venmo day of the year?
Speaker 1
Oh, that's interesting. That would be a good Venmo ad.
That should be a Venmo Super Bowl ad. Biggest day of the year.
We won't tell anyone if you don't tell anyone.
Speaker 1
It's what happened. Oh, what happens in Venmo stays in Venmo.
Yeah, that should be their strategy. Right.
You know, we forgot to talk about the halftime show, by the way. The Kendrick thing.
Speaker 1 where I knew he was playing not like us because I was tipped off, but they teased it so that it was like, am I going to do it? Am I going to do it? And then they did it.
Speaker 1 And the whole crowd, at least part of the crowd, was singing the chorus. And it was
Speaker 1 pretty great.
Speaker 1 I mean, he had already decisively won the beef.
Speaker 1 And then this was like, you know, almost like going for two and running the Philly special when you're up 52 to 7 with two minutes left and just like the all-time F you exclamation point.
Speaker 1 It was pretty great. Did people love it? I feel like on
Speaker 1 social, it's getting killed a little bit. It was exactly as polarizing as I think he wanted it.
Speaker 1
Like, he didn't play all of like, here are my five best songs. He didn't do the usually thing, and it was all leading.
Something else
Speaker 1 wasn't as polarizing.
Speaker 1 Kanye had a freaking commercial on Fox.
Speaker 1
What? I'm not joking. Look at the commercial.
I don't even know what the hell it was. We were all staring at each other like,
Speaker 1
what is going on? He seemed to be in a dentist chair. He was just saying gibberish.
And this is after an insane week on Twitter.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, we don't have to get into it, but we live in a room.
Speaker 1
I mean, he went after everybody. He's probably going to go after us.
Yeah. I was like, and Fox let him
Speaker 1 go down.
Speaker 1
Unbelievable. Yeah, kick him off the island, too.
But that was the biggest shock. That and the Chiefs losing by 35 points, whatever it was.
Speaker 1
You know, you know, it wasn't a great, wasn't a great year so far for the gambling. Didn't do well on any of the Chiefs bets.
Million dollar picks got killed in the playoffs. Just not great.
But
Speaker 1 my mom's text about what the hell is going on during the halftime show made up for 90% of it. She didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 1 It should almost be like its own social media channel of old people trying to understand the Super Bowl halftime show act, which I think is part of the point of the halftime show act, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1 To just
Speaker 1 make, make like at least one-third of the country go, what's going on? What's he saying?
Speaker 1 Um, yeah, that should be the ratings. That should be like, hey, how many mom texts were sent? Uh, what the hell?
Speaker 1
Dad texts. Yeah, this is terrible.
No, but I don't think anyone over 60 enjoyed it. Right.
Um,
Speaker 1 I don't necessarily have a parent corner, I have a wife corner, and you kind of know this story, but I'm going to tell it again just for the pod. So,
Speaker 1 you guys are all here, and House is here. And House posts a picture picture of him and Paige Sparaneck on
Speaker 1 his Instagram. It's him and Van and Paige Sparaneck and
Speaker 1 arms around them. You took the picture.
Speaker 1 So my wife that night is like, hey, what's going on with House? And I'm like, what do you mean? And she's like, did you see his Instagram? I'm like, no, I didn't. What happened? And she shows me.
Speaker 1
I'm like, this is crazy. Like, his wife's like, what's...
Is it his wife's going to like, like, put all his stuff outside? Like, how do you do this? If you did this, I would fucking kill you. Really?
Speaker 1 And I'm like,
Speaker 1 and I'm like, this, that's Paige Sparring. So now I have to walk her through the whole, this isn't just like, I took a picture with like an attractive blonde.
Speaker 1
Like, this is actually like somebody in the golf community. She's got 4 million followers on Instagram.
You showing her the Instagram pictures?
Speaker 1
I brought her on Instagram. I'm like, this is who it is.
It's a celebrity. It's actually a very smart move by House.
for social media to take a picture with her.
Speaker 1 Like this will probably be like the most looked at
Speaker 1
Instagram post. Joe House, a man in his mid-50s, is probably going to have this year.
So he has to do the post. And so now I'm explaining to her this whole, you know, cottage industry of, of, uh,
Speaker 1 of what, what Paige, like leveraging social media.
Speaker 1
Paige's Instagram page would be the move, but this works. No, she, she was pro paid.
She was like, oh, I get it now. I get, I see it.
Yeah. More power to her.
Speaker 1 She just didn't, she didn't understand understand why House was doing that. She thought it was like some sort of like midlife crisis.
Speaker 1
My marriage is in the tank thing. So I had to walk her through it and then also introduce her into the world of social media and sports and how it takes some twists and turns.
It was very exciting.
Speaker 1 So when you, when you said later that your wife might not have been thrilled about the Slim Jam, like, you know what? We're all just trying to
Speaker 1
stay relevant here in the old sports media world. It's all about clicks.
I could, I'm not going to end up professing
Speaker 1
that woman. Yeah, I don't think, you know, I'm not interested in her.
It's fine. It's fine.
But, you know, Joe House,
Speaker 1
not a polarizing guy. I've never had a fight with him in 37 years.
Of course.
Speaker 1 One of the highest approval rating people of anybody who I'm friends with and beloved by my wife. And it was like the first time she's ever been mad at Joe House.
Speaker 1
Didn't laugh, but it was like shocking. For taking money out of an ATM and not gambling.
Like that to me is a worse offense than any of the pages. Knocked him out of Goat Island.
Speaker 1
My wife today, the Chiefs are down. I don't even know what the hell score it was.
And she comes up to me and I obviously have a lot of money on the Chiefs
Speaker 1 and
Speaker 1
she says, boy, Chiefs are getting beat bad. This is not what I expected.
Is this what you expected? And I'm fucking
Speaker 1 hemorrhaging money at this point. And so I think I just,
Speaker 1 I think I ran to the bathroom and cried. You have no belt for your pants anymore.
Speaker 1 You've lost everything. It's still there.
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's weird. Like, dead wrong about the game.
Don't even feel that bad about it.
Speaker 1
Like, what are we going to do? Like, the Chiefs did this over and over again. It was idiotic to go against them.
And I just didn't want to do it again. After that Ravens game last year, I just don't.
Speaker 1
I just didn't want to. So now, now we can treat a football season normally.
Yep. Now we can just bet against them.
Now we don't have to talk about this mystical thing and whatever.
Speaker 1
Just have some opinions. And now there's room on the island.
Now the room, the island is back.
Speaker 1 The penthouse suite has opened up on Goat Island. Tom Brady's back.
Speaker 1
That's it. All right, Sal.
So this is it for yet another football season for us. This is season 07 to 16.
Speaker 1 I think this is season 19 for us. Unlike Sirianni with the anthems.
Speaker 1
Next year is our 20th season for Guest Alliance. Oh, it is.
Oh, we got to do something. Yeah.
Yeah, because we started in 07 and next year is, oh, no, is it? No, it's our 18th. I can't count.
Speaker 1
Maybe 19th. This is 2024 season heading into the 25 play.
Yeah, so like an SNL thing, like do like a retrospective, have all the great music that's played, everything.
Speaker 1
Well, this is about as bad as I can remember doing the playoffs in a while. Just never had a feel for it this year.
The playoffs. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 The playoffs in general.
Speaker 1
But we're going to do some basketball stuff. You still got Against All Odds, and you still have the Against All Odds, Drew.
I'm Red Gate Show. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 You're going to come out a couple of times. And then we're doing Masters.
Speaker 1 we're bringing baby doll to the masters this year and that's the most important sports moment of the year for everybody we got basketball coming you got the nba now you can watch nba now you can care about nba i'm excited uh i could draft the ad didn't work we could bet on the draft we got draft props yeah we'll be right there yep shudor sanders shador sanders over unders pro day in a few days we'll find out who won the next gen stat uh prop on fanbool the fastest player wouldn't that be worthy?
Speaker 1
Worthy had to have gotten the fastest. Oh, I guess so.
Yeah. With that.
Yeah, I don't know. Yes.
Speaker 1
It's got down the field pretty quickly, too. Anyway, yeah.
Well, I'm going to miss you. This is always bittersweet for me.
I love the good things.
Speaker 1 We can always just call each other on the phone and
Speaker 1
just see each other in person. There's that.
Yeah.
Speaker 1
All right. Thanks to Steve Ceruti, Kyle Creighton, and Kahal as well for producing this all the way through.
We did not do YouTube live this week because I'm in New Orleans, but
Speaker 1
we had a lot of fun doing that too. Thanks to everybody for spreading the word for us.
And I got a new rewatchable coming tomorrow night, too. So it's a big movie.
Big movie from the 80s. Any guesses?
Speaker 1
Really? Big famous 80s movie. Oh, I'm going to guess wrong.
Haven't done it yet. Well, I've done all of them.
Now there's a couple left. This is a big one.
Very excited about it.
Speaker 1 It's SNL related. Cone heads.
Speaker 1
It's not coneheads. Oh, forget it.
Blues Brothers. We did the Blues Brothers.
Oh, that was close. Yeah, it was time.
Speaker 1
Anyway, that's coming on Monday night. So, Sal, last time of the year.
Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy.
Speaker 1 I wanna see them
Speaker 1 on the wayside.
Speaker 1 I don't have
Speaker 1 a few years with him
Speaker 1 on the wayside.
Speaker 1 On the Bruce Sun, Liverpool say,
Speaker 1 I don't have
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