Philly Ruins the Chiefs and Mahomes Craps the Bed With Cousin Sal

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I went to Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans.

Cousin Sal watched it from home in LA.

It was a disappointing game,

but it had a lot of subplots and we're going to talk about all

them next first our friends from Pearl Jam All right, we're recording about 20 minutes after Super Bowl 59. A true dud.
Cousin Sal is here. I was shellacked.
My bets were shellacked. Million-dollar picks were shellacked.
I can't wait to talk about something that happened at the end of the game. Mahomes was terrible.
Talk slow, Bill. I don't want it to end.
The season ends after this hour. I know.
You're right. Talk very slowly.
Let's savor the conversation. I'm going to talk slow.
As slow as that Eagles when they had the interception touchdown on the offsides. When the guy just should have basically run back and forth on the one-yard line like you would do in Madden and make one of the Chiefs have to run 70 yards to tackle him.
He could have run off like a minute of the clock. You're right.
He could have killed the last seven minutes, but it didn't matter. Well, so let's go positive because there's so many Chiefs angles, but let's go positive.
The Eagles, who had an awesome season, who had three losses that if three plays went different than the three losses, they were like an undefeated level team. Nobody kicked their ass.
And then the last two games of the season, they kicked Washington's ass. They kicked the Chiefs ass.
How good was this team for you? I think they were excellent and they peaked at the right time. I don't want to take a damn thing away from them.
I mean, I'm a Cowboys fan, so this is a nightmare. I mean, just being a Cowboys fan is a nightmare, that part.
But when did you put them in your top three? Because I don't think it's in the last two weeks, maybe? The three weeks? It's just weird. We should remember this.
The best team may not even be on our radar until week 21. But kudos to them.
They deserve it. Both sides of both.
Dominant. Good for them.
Well, we always felt like Baltimore and Philly were the best on-paper teams, but we didn't know what that meant. And then when you think like Baltimore, who's got to be just absolutely kicking themselves so hard, where it's like, oh man, we probably could have done what Philly did to the Chiefs and we just weren't able to get to the game but you know that we knew the defense was there i remember doing the million dollar pick scenario on thursday and it was like there was two games i felt like this could be it could be to be like that awesome pat seattle game back and forth chiefs win in the end or it could end up being like that that bucks chiefs game the 31 to 9 game when they couldn't block, when they were off the whole game.
And we talked on a bunch of different pods about how if you like the Eagles, just take them minus 9.5, take them minus 19.5, just take them in some sort of blowout situation because if it was a close game, the Chiefs history was there going to win. You were on Ringer Sunday pregame talking about all the same stats everyone else was.
17-0 in the one-score games for Mahomes. 17-3 in the playoffs.
The recipe to beat him was to basically beat the shit out of him and blow him out, which is easier said than done. The Eagles did it.
It was great. I think Mahomes actually may have been smart.
He purposely got blown out so that he could still say he's won 17 straight one-score games. His streak's alive.
He's like, guys. I got the streak going.

It was, yes, you're right.

I mean, this was the recipe.

And like these, you know,

they drafted all these SEC guys, right?

The defensive linemen, all these Georgia guys.

And it's like, maybe the first year or two,

they weren't great.

A couple of more, Jalen Carter,

you could tell was going to be great.

But it's almost like they had to go to college a second time in the pros to get great for two or three years. And now they're spectacular.
I mean, that had to remind you in a bad way of, I mean, it's great because you can brag on Brady now and the Patriots dynasty. Oh, I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to be way closer than that. I'm sure you don't have a segment for that.
But on the other hand, this is how the Giants beat the Patriots. This is how the Giants beat Jim Kelly and the Bills, right? This is how Tampa beat the Chiefs a couple years ago.
Four-man rush. Six sacks with no blitzes.
It's insane. You're toast if that's the case.
It was the worst fear if you're a Chiefs fan because you were already nervous about your line. already felt like you were sneaking by game after game you have a left guard playing left tackle which we saw Jeff Saturday on Friday night we were asking him about it just like how hard is that to go from guard to tackle and he was basically saying well when you're a guard you're a guard for a reason your arms are too short you're not You're not quite strong enough.
Your footwork's not quite good enough. That's how you end up being a guard instead of a tackle.
And it's like when you're playing a guard as a tackle, it's usually a little bit of a dangerous sign. He meant to say it's as hard as going from NFL analyst to head coach.
I didn't know how to read that up. He's a good guy.
But so if you're the Chiefs or going into the into the game and you're going well we've gotten pretty lucky in some of these close games, everyone's taking us and we do have some holes that the right team could maybe get but the recipe of this game wasn't what I thought even though it was the blowout part, Mahomes was awful Hurts was really good. Hertz didn't just outplay Mahomes.
He badly, badly outclassed Mahomes, which I thought was pretty nuts. Sorry, my computer's doing some weird stuff.
I'm in a hotel room. But yeah, Hertz outplayed.
You don't have to go into the detail. Oh, weird stuff.
Well, I was up my hands up on the YouTube thing. The whole time, I got nervous.
Yeah, so Hertel plays Mahomes, and everybody was saying all week, the Eagles have a better team. But, you know, QB and coach, late game stuff, I got to take the Chiefs.
And then the QB coach said, and they didn't get either of them. No, they certainly didn't.
And now there's a lot of love, and probably deservedly so, for Sirianni, right? All he does is make the playoffs. He only goes to championship games and won the Super Bowl and lost one.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say. He looked like he was going to be fired in September.
He looked like he was going to make it to Halloween. It's really, really weird what goes on.
And Mahomes, like, I don't want to blame him fully because he's been great. And that offensive line just got manhandled.
But early on, he didn't help himself out trying to wedge, you know, get those passes into Kelsey who couldn't bend over to catch him. There were bad throws anyway, and then those interceptions were just abysmal.
So we saw about three of the worst jobs. And Hurts was great.
Like, even Hurts had that on the first drive. He had a perfect throw down the sideline to A.J.
Brown that got called back for a pretty shaky pass interference, and then everybody had the same reaction. Here we go.
Yeah, I have all that written down, and that is the one good thing about this. It didn't come down to that.
I was like, okay, they called the P.I. on Brown, but the Eagles got it back on that dumb call, that even worse call on Goddard.
Thank God we're not talking about the refs. We're not leading with them.
I don't even know why I'm talking about him now, but that's the one good thing about a blowout like this. But I wasn't sure that Hurts was going to get MVP until the second half.
Until he started running, he ran for two first downs. He was really good.
Cooper Dejean could maybe sneak in, but yeah, they had to give it to him by the end. Yeah, he was, I thought, I mean, he only had five incompletions.
He was 11 for 72 running. He had some pretty back-breaking runs at the perfect times.
He had some really nice throws. I didn't feel like, other than that pick, which it was a pick, but it also wasn't like the worst thing in the world.
The guy got tackled at the two. It was a nice play, and they went three and out.
I mean, they could not get a first down early on. Yeah, but you think that Barkley was 25 for 57.
The Chiefs were saying, you're not beating us with Barkley. That didn't matter because, you know, Hurts was getting these plays.
And then Mahomes was just awful. I mean, so I'm looking big picture for the Eagles side of this.
Incredible drafting. Yeah.
For a couple years in a row, which is the key to everything. And this was, as, you know, obviously was so focused on that 20-year Pats run.
And it always ebbed and flowed with the drafts. They always had Brady and Belichick.
And it always came down to, could they get two or three good drafts in a row? And if they didn't, that's when the team started to fall apart. The Eagles had the opposite.
They just nailed drafts. They had some luck.
Like Jalen Carter falls to nine because he had a pretty terrible car crash incident with one of his teammates and he falls seven spots lower than he should have. Even our guy Coop, I mean, he fell to 39.
He was the third best defensive back in the draft. The Pats passed on him, traded back, passed on him again.
And it's just over and over again. They're nailing these dudes.
And then Barkley was one of the best signings of the decade. Yeah, it really has been just a masterclass for the last two, two and a half years.
It's killing you. I can see the pain in your eyes.
I know. I hate it.
It's really been a master class. Fuck this shit.
What could be worse for a Cowboys fan?

I don't want to make it about me, but that

now, you know, Jaden Daniels... That's what we do in this

pod. We make it about us.
What do you mean?

Could be around for a decade in the division.

Oh, and the Eagles are great after

losing the same last six

inexplicably last year, and my

team has gone to shit, but

yeah, I mean, I can't say enough about this Eagles

team. I mean, really, just I don't know, but then again, if you look at, if you saw 25 for 57 for Barkley, how much more would we have put on the Chiefs? I know.
It's, so you think like even with this, even with the playoffs for the Eagles, right? First round, they played Green Bay. Solid game.
Yeah. 22-10.
Shut Green Bay down. Offense wasn't great.
Some Hurts questions remained. The Rams game.
They're up comfortably the whole game. Then at the end, defense gets tired and it felt like the Rams were going to steal the game and there were some signs and it's like Hurts couldn't put them away.
It was like, huh, what's that? But then those last two games, the Washington and the Casey games are about as good. And we've been on the other side of this where we've ridden teams over the years.
Like the 2000 Ravens was one of my favorite. That Bucks team with Brady.
That was another one. This was another one of those teams that just got better over the four rounds.
Had this defense. Just felt like they peaked at the perfect time.
unlike the Chiefs. Yeah, and we did the opposite of peaking.
Because all those games you mentioned, the Eagles won the turnover battle, right? And the Chiefs pretty much won the turnover battle except against Buffalo. But you always thought like, all right, it's not going to be the case that the Chiefs are going to get crushed in turnovers, right? And it was 3-1 is a crushing, and 37-23 for time of possession is even worse.
I mean, Mahomes ends up with decent numbers, but you can't say enough of how bad this is. We're saving that for the next segment.
A couple things with the Eagles that we should just remember from a playoff manifesto standpoint. Casey was negotiating for that three-peat.
That story came out during the week that they were negotiating with Pat Riley about the three-peat and how to pay. That's going in the manifesto.
I'm putting it in next year in the playoff manifesto. If one team is negotiating for what's going to happen after they win the title, that's immediately a fuck you.
I can't believe I didn't factor that in to anything. Oh, come on.
You put that right on the chalkboard. This team's already negotiating after they think they're going to win.
Are we going to... I don't know.
That seemed like not nothing. You don't think? Did Pat Riley bet the Eagles? I mean, that would have been a nice hedge because he lost a lot of money on T-shirts and everything else now for this three.
Pat Riley had $5 million under Harley and Jimmy Butler's first game with the Warriors. Yeah, I guess it is.
I guess there were a bunch of red flags. There's a revenge thing too, right? Because they lost to the Chiefs a couple of years ago.
So that was in there. But the lesson for me, and this was the single worst game to talk about ever since we've been doing this, because everybody, almost the analysis didn't matter because it all came down to, well, the Eagles are better really everywhere, but you can't go against the Chiefs.

That was literally including me and including you.

It was like that.

So now I feel like we're back.

Now we can analyze football games correctly again. And now we can actually have takes because the chiefs have kind of ruined it.
Like the fucking Luca trade took over the Superbowl discourse all week. Cause it was like, it wasn't even fun to talk about this Eagles game.
Well, now AD is out a month. And so now it looks like Dallas didn't get a steal.
Like everybody was clamoring that they really won that year. And now though, no, um, you're right.
Yes, you're right. We can go back to, I just don't think that, I don't know.
Well, yeah, I know we spend like hours talking about, should this be one? Should this be one and a half? Why? Oh, is the number going to flip? It never matters. And you're right.
We don't have to go, because I felt like anybody, I was just at a Super Bowl party who didn't know a thing about football can come in not watching and be like oh it's just tough to pick against the Chiefs I'm like shit that's what I've been saying with Simmons for the last two weeks that's what everyone was saying I was like should we just lose our jobs since Friday that was everybody's analysis was well you can't go against the Chiefs nothing else to add the Chiefs are good they win the coach quarterback coming and they win close games so uh don It's a long offseason. I'll feel okay betting the Chiefs.
I didn't want to lose this way, though, where Mahomes doesn't show up at all and the line gets... There were no signs that the line was going to get overpowered.
Was it like this? I didn't think that was the case. Why didn't this happen to the Rams? Even Washington, last week, Daniels moved the ball really well against the Eagles.
And when you look back at the mistakes that they made, it was nothing that had to do with him. He was moving around.
He was felt like he was in control of the game. And then his supporting cast kind of screwed the game up.
So, you know, but on the other hand, they had two weeks to prepare. They obviously came in thinking if we can get a lead, we can, you know, we're able to dominate this game and that's what i did i was in the i watched the game i was in the fando suite our friends look at you yeah it was great it was actually really fun getting some of the insights of you know where people had too much money not enough money some of the props like that everybody the barkley barkley everything.
He didn't score a touchdown. Like, so all those hit the Kelsey stuff was way under my homes was under for a while.
But the big thing they were saying was the line never moved. And even though everybody that we saw all weekend in new Orleans was like, Casey, Casey, Casey, Casey, the betting was pretty even.
And a lot of the sharp money was on Philly. So the line stayed the same, which, you know, is usually kind of a red flag.
So the public all thinks the Chiefs are going to win, but yet the line's not moving. Yeah.
Yeah. And like adjusted lines one, right.
If they did take your advice and take the minus nine and a half and stuff like that. And the over, which wasn't looking good for a while ended up coming in in a big way.
So, uh, but I mean, there are some, you know, there are some crazy things. I don't know, like Hurts' first touchdown? You said they got beat on that, right? Oh, let's talk about that.
So Dotson catches a long touchdown. Yeah.
Dotson was 85-1. Incredible.
To be the first touchdown. They're celebrating.
It seemed like a touchdown. Watching from the stands, unquestionably a touchdown, and then they reveal it.
It's like, whoop, not a touchdown. All of a sudden, we're tush pushing.
They had Hurts anytime touchdown. Hurts first touchdown was one of the most popular bets.
So that was a loss. I had both of those.
And I had under one and a half or shortest touchdown. So it was either going to come from Hurts or Barkley or Kareem Hunt or something like that.
So that was about the only thing I won.

But 85 to one, I know they give money back sometimes

if a guy gets hurt on the first snap.

You should get a little money back

if you had Dotson at 85 to one.

It's just some pity money.

Eight inch line, yeah.

Well, I had one of the,

because Gantwick's legal here in Louisiana.

So I did a bunch of Super Bowl bets.

And you're not going to believe it,

but I didn't do great.

But one of the ones I had was Hurts

Thank you. gambling's legal here in Louisiana.
So I did a bunch of Super Bowl bets and that you're not going to believe it, but I didn't do great. But one of the ones I had was was Hertz first touchdown with Chiefs to win the game.
And it was 15 to one. So Hertz scored.
And then you go in the app and you can be like, you can get out of this right now. And I'm like, do I get out of this? I don't really like the way the Chiefs like that.
It's the Chiefs. It's Mahomes.
Like to the end. Even when it was, what, 17-0 after the pick six, you're going, ah, this is his 28-3.
He's going to come back. And he just never did.
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It was like, could this be his 28 to three game? Including when, when, when Coop got the pick six, it's like, oh, we're now following the recipe for the 28-3 Falcons game. Then it gets to, what was it, 24-0.
It was the same thing. It's like, oh, okay.
This would be it. Maybe we're joking in the suite, like, oh, maybe he's doing this intentionally.
Maybe he wanted to add this degree of difficulty comeback thing to the whole Mahomes goat legacy that he ends up with the three P with a huge comeback. That was not what happened.
So it was not even close to what happened. And I got to say he was terrible.
He was terrible from the first drive. He had that second down pass to Kelsey.
They were moving the ball. They got a first down.
They seem like they had a little momentum. Kelsey over the middle and throws it way behind him.
And I, I swear he must add 10 terrible passes. I'm not counting what happened in the fourth quarter.
The game was over and the game mattered. He was, it was the worst he's ever played by far.
We were like, I don't know if you could bet on something like this, but like, do we hear Tuesday that he had rotator cuff tear or something? Because like a torn labrum. Yeah.
Or like a hip flexor. Yeah.
I don't know. Because there was a couple places where he was scrambling around, and it looked like he seemed physically 100%.
Right. And then that's where it usually hurts you, but yeah, he could not get it.
I didn't know what I was looking at. I was like, is it raining in there? It looked like a bad weather game, too.
I just hadn't seen him like that. I don't know.
I don't count that Tampa Bay game. When they lost in the Super Bowl to Tampa Bay, you were like, oh, well.
That game was ugly for a couple quarters. And yeah, they had the Andy Reid thing.
It happened a couple days before with his family. And it's just the whole vibe of that game was off.
This was different. He was specifically missing guys.
There was that one when he rolled out and he had Hopkins on the third down. And it felt like he could have scrambled for 20 yards or just thrown Hopkins a good pass and he did neither and Hopkins dropped it.
But it was like over and over again he just sucked. It was bizarre.
It was like people were incredulous in the stadium. Everyone was like, what's going on? Is he sick? What's happening? Your boy was giddy too.
I mean, I don't think he I think he went like three minutes without talking Brady. He was just like giggling in the corner.
Good for him. Well, that's the thing.
If it had been on Mahomes, his version of 28 to three with Brady announcing, that would have been great. Instead, this is probably the best moment of Brady's career since he retired because it was a lot of Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes.
Is he the goad? I don't know. If he gets his three-peat, Brady's never done that.
And now he goes down with two Super Bowl blowout losses. Brady's had zero.
Brady lost three times in the Super Bowl. All one-score games where he had the ball on the last drive with a chance to steal the game.
Never got blown out. And then he beat Mahomes twice.
That's it. Two and0 in the playoffs.
And it's like, can we fucking settle down now for five years with the Mahomes goat stuff, please? Thank you. I think you did by yourself at least three years.
Five might be a lot. Yes.
Because I thought if he wins four next year, you could make a good case for it. But you're not going to like this.
I still think his best Super Bowl in terms of grading this legacy versus Mahomes is the one where he beat Mahomes. Now, that wasn't with the Patriots, I'm sorry to say, but I feel like that's his greatest claim.
That's his greatest claim to him being better than Mahomes is him crushing Mahomes. Of course it is.
His best Super Bowls were the Seahawks one and the Falcons. Those were the ones.
The comeback. But then that Seahawks game, being down 10, those two drives that he had against Seattle, that was outrageous.
Well, I'm saying in terms of comparing him to Mahomes, I think you have to do the head-to-head. But I know he's beat him in the championship.
But the three-peat was the only thing Mahomes could have done that surpassed anything Brady did. So now,

you know,

Mahomes is going to,

it's about to hit his thirties.

Yeah.

He's got,

he's three and two in the Superbowl.

And the thing about the Superbowl is it's really hard to actually win the Superbowl.

Yeah.

Brady made it 10 times.

He went seven and three.

He easily could have been three and seven.

He easily could have been 10 and oh,

you know,

but,

but Mahomes three and two.

So we'll see.

Cause Kelsey,

I think, you know, if they'd won the Superbowl would Kelsey have retired? I would have bet yes. Yeah.
I don't know what happens with that now. Chris Jones getting older.
When we talked about hitting the drafts, they hit that McDuffie-Carlaftis draft. Looks like they hit the worthy pick, but the offensive line is like really rough.
There's other teams coming. The Chargers are going to be better.

We saw Tyreek Hill on Friday.

I was trying to get him to come to the Pats.

It wasn't happening, but there was a team. Are you going to tell him what he said afterwards?

What did he say after?

I said, come to the Cowboys.

And then he did the eyes thing.

Like, I'm looking at you.

I said, you might have to be our running back too.

He's like, that's all right.

I'm ready.

So here we go.

That is good news for Dallas. Well, and then somebody that was with them was like, watch out for the Chargers and walked off.
I was like, what do you mean? Can we bet this? I will say, though, but everyone's going, oh, the coaches are so great in the division, you know, in the AFC West. Look out.
They're still four games better than any of those teams. They're still a month better than the Chargers, right? So, you know, They're not going away anytime soon, I don't think, the Chiefs.
As far as Brady goes, if you were in a coma for a year and you came out of it and you said, how was Brady? I would have told you, oh my God, he had his best year ever. He took a gigantic leap ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
You're like, what do you mean? By doing nothing. He yeah, he was a C plus in the booth, but this was his best year ever.
He somehow bought a majority stake of Vegas for 10 million bucks. He owns a team.
He's the GOAT again. The GOAT almost got taken to him.
Now he's back. I thank you for calling him a C plus in the booth, by the way.
Is that generous? Yeah. Yeah.
That'd be a good teacher yeah i didn't so tell me about this the broadcast and brady and how he was talking about my homes and was there anything interesting because i was just laughing the whole time i thought it was embarrassing it was like pointing and laughing they cut away to him uh no i thought he was just fine i um you know i i'm not one to watch a lot uh but they're not i have like 44 bets i kidding. I have like 44 bets, and I'm constantly checking on them throughout.
But he was fine, and he was like, sometimes this happens. And it seemed like he blamed the line and praised the Eagles, which he should have defensively more than getting on Mahomes' case.
Their defense was – their D-backs were great. They broke up that fourth and three that, that guy broke on him perfectly.
Yeah. I was, I was thinking about it from a Pat's perspective because just trying to figure out, because they almost have this blank slate for how to put together a team now, right? Because they have the coach and the QB, they have basically nothing else except Christian Gonzalez and Barmarff comes back and it's like, how would you build this team? And it really feels like I, you just spend everything on the lines.
You can figure out everything else after. So there's that Mason Graham, the Michigan defensive tackle.
It's like, let's just get that guy. Maybe he can be Jalen Carter and just push the line like that.
But it would seem like the sweet spot would just be having these four guys that can just push the pocket and then you don't have to blitz. You don't have to do any of this gimmick shit, and then you can kind of patch together everything else would be one way to do it.
How about the other part of the line? The one that Saquon ran for over 2,000 yards on. Right.
Couldn't get it going with the Giants. It makes a world of difference if you could figure it out.
You don't turn the ball over as much when you own both lines. You win time of possession by 14 minutes in the Super Bowl.
It's a pretty good thing. That's why I like when the Dolphins, they spend half of their salary cap on Tua and the two receivers.
It's like, what do you, how's this going to play out? I thought the Chiefs fan base, I got to be honest, and I'm sure, I say this knowing this will immediately be thrown back in my face because the Patriot fans did the same thing. Yeah.
Just needed maybe a 16-ounce cup of settled-down juice. Oh, really? The chests were out.
The chests were out this weekend. There was a lot of confidence, rightly so, because they had the best guy in the league, and they win every one of these games down the stretch.
And it was a fan base that maybe needed their version of what happened to the Pats in 07 and what happened to the Pats and the Nick Foles, Doug Peterson Super Bowl and some other great teams. Why didn't you tell John? You should have told Ham to calm down.
Ham was introducing the starters before the game. That's what I'm saying.
It's like, relax. They'll never do that again.
They can't have him back. Wasn't Ham a Rams fan for like 40 years? He hasn't figured out that St.
Louis, Kansas City thing. No, he was with the Rams when they moved.
He jumped to the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Has anyone, have we litigated that? Do we need to have him on the podcast and really like dive into what's going on here? I'm sure, you know, he'll come on. You'll get lost in his eyes and you'll be like, all right, that's good.
Good enough excuse. So handsome.
Yeah. Can we talk about, have you ever seen anything like how bad my homes was in this game from a great player standpoint? I was rocking my brain.
Cause there was so much dead time during this game. I was like taking notes of my, it wasn't expecting to take this many notes, but like I was thinking like magic and then 1984 NBA finals.
Sorry. I had to work the NBA in,

but magic like just sucked in the finals. Like he cost them a couple of games.

He wasn't quite magic yet though.

They'd won the 80 and 82 titles,

but he wasn't like,

he's the best player in the league.

Peyton Manning had that new Orleans super bowl where he threw the pick six

and he was kind of the,

he was either the best part in the league or one of the best players.

Yeah.

But I can't really remember somebody who was like this guy, everyone agrees is the best player in the league or one of the best players. But I can't really remember somebody who was like, this guy, everyone agrees, is the best player in the league and he's in his prime sucking this badly.
It was almost like a Greg Norman golf major type of performance. The amount of throws that he missed and how frazzled he seemed.
And then they're doing the stats at halftime and this is one of the 10 worst EPAs of the last 50, all that shit. It's like, oh my God, this is the best guy in the league.
This doesn't happen ever. Well, I'm trying to think what we're, I mean, you know, you can go like Clayton Kershaw and everything, but I'm not about, not sure about the one game.
I mean, Cam Newton won MVP. I was thinking Kobe's 6-24, the first three quarters of that Celtic game when it just seemed like he couldn't hit anything.
They won that, though, right? They won. He came back.
You want to tell everybody they won? Yeah. They did win.
Cam Newton won MVP that year. Denver won 24-10.
We never thought Cam Newton was the best guy. He was MVP.
I know, but nobody was like, Cam Newton is the road goes through Cam Newton. It was like, he had a great season.
No, I get it. I get it.
Yeah. I don't know what to say.
Montana against the Giants one year when they knocked him out, but he got knocked out. If you count the Super Bowls, I think this is the best case.
I mean, in the 70s, everyone threw it for 125 yards and either won or lost. So Elway had some bad ones right before he won um he did but it always felt like his teams were so overmatched this was one where i felt like the plays were there i know their pass rush was good but he was also missing everything he did he was missing open guys um and it was one of those things that almost became like the Luka trade where you start texting people in the second quarter.

Like,

is he hurt?

What's going on with my homes?

What's,

is there something wrong?

Is he sick?

What does he have?

I've never seen anything like this.

So,

um,

yeah,

I'm looking at all of them now.

I really don't think like Carolina scored 10.

Uh,

when did you say Manning against Seattle?

Is that what you're saying?

Manning again,

Peyton Manning against New Orleans when he threw the pick six to lose the game,

but it wasn't like he was like horrific the entire game.

Thank you. Wouldn't you say Manning against Seattle? Is that what you're saying? Peyton Manning against New Orleans when he threw the pick six to lose the game.
But it wasn't like he was horrific the entire game. Brady had some bad playoff losses.
We had a bad loss to the Ravens. There was a weird Denver Broncos game after the third Super Bowl they won when he wasn't great, but never anything like this.
Yeah, if you go playoffs, you can maybe pick some off. But Super Bowls, like the big game, if it's down to one game, this is tough.
I mean, Jim Kelly was great and had some bad ones, but this was a class by itself. I'm shocked at this.
I really am. Me too.
I know we were due for a bad one, right? We had three three-point games in a row. Is that right? And then the Tampa-Kansas City was the last bad one four years ago.
But it just makes me sadder because the season's ending and when it ends on a dud like that, it's harder to take. Well, I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of pieces the next two days trying to put this performance in perspective historically.
At least from a football standpoint. They'll have stats.
So, and the, and and the what he did in the last two drives will kind of fuck it up a little bit because it'll make it seem like it was better than it is so you almost have to do like right the first three quarters guys what's the equivalent in other sports of somebody who's fallen behind 40 tom brady tom you're gonna compare him to tom brady he yeah you start compare him to Marsha Brady. How about that? How about we start there? Hands flying.
I don't want to hear about Patrick Mahomes again. I don't want to hear about it again.
That's it. We're done with the goat argument.
That's it. I'm done.
I'm done. Get it out.
Okay, Stephen A., we're done. We're done.
I'm sorry. I wasn't even doing Stephen A.
I was doing generic network ex-athlete guy. All right.
I was doing Stephen A. 20 of them.
No, I'm sure Stephen A. Would that be kind to my hopes? I have some silver linings for the Chiefs now.
Hey, real quick. What was it when I left New Orleans? I left on Saturday.
We were sad to see you go. It felt like 70, 30 Eagles fans.
What was it in the building? Half and half. Really? A lot of Chiefs fans.
Yeah, a lot. Oh, it didn't sound that way.
Wow. Yeah, the Eagles fans were just louder.
Silver linings for the Chiefs. I think Kelsey comes back now.
I don't think he retires on that game. One more year for

him. Another dumb narrative

that we got killed on. What did he have? Two for 24?

I think he might have

had a third catch in there.

Another silver lining.

We could talk about them normally again.

They're not Michael Myers

anymore. You can't do it anymore.
We can't do the

I know there's 17

reasons to pick this other team,

but it's the Chiefs. That's done.

We can now talk about I know there's 17 reasons to pick this other team, but

it's the Chiefs. That's done.

We can now talk about football games

rationally and normally without these

fucking weird fear of this team.

Pat Riley doesn't make any

money. I think that's great.
Terrible 2025

for Pat Riley.

Brady wasn't that popular

as an announcer. I think that was a

win for the Chiefs.

Wait, what? I don't know.

I'm just throwing that in there. These are silver linings.
Oh, God. They didn't trade Luka Doncic in the last 10 days.
They didn't trade Mahomes for Anthony Davis at a number one and then have Davis get hurt in his first game right after they gave an interview about how smart they were because they want guys who are in shape. But then mentioned Shaq as one of the guys, the great guys historically, who stayed in shape.
Shaq famously never in shape ever at any point in his career. That was hilarious.
I have no more silver linings unless you can think of any. I don't think there are any.
For the Chiefs? Yeah. Not too many, except that maybe they could stun us again, right? So it wasn't even this year was last year when they did it all on the road that we were like, Oh crap.
Oh, they're back and they're a beast and they're better than ever. Um, I don't know if you want to look at next year's lines yet, or if we save that to the end or, uh, no, I want to, I want to do that next segment.
I know. I, so if I'm the chiefs, if I'm the PR, if I'm the Louis K of the Chiefs, and in my spare time when I'm not just focused on my three clients that I care about and I spend barely any time with the other ones.
Wait, if you're the Louis K, that means the Chiefs are going to get canceled in like three weeks. No, if I'm the Louis K of the Chiefs.
Jimmy would be the Chiefs in this scenario. Cause that'd be a client he would actually care about.
Unlike some of the others. Um, I'm spinning it.
We were never that good the whole time. It was amazing.
We got there. Like, look at our record.
You saw us in the Superbowl. When we played an awesome team, we, we couldn't hold that.
We had no offensive line. We had no explosive playmakers.
Our coaching staff is old. It's a fucking miracle we made the Super Bowl.
We should be getting kudos for that. Interesting.
That would be my spin. That's what Lewis K.
That's what Lewis K. is supposed to say? My client actually sucks? That's what Lewis K.
would say. No, it would just be like, no, maybe you should spin it the other way.
We were pretty good. We're proud of the season we had.
Just making the Super Bowl was an achievement. Yeah.
We've made five Super Bowls. Your Patriots won like the first three Super Bowls by a field goal, right? Yeah.
I think so. So that's what we were thinking.
Because Tom Brady showed up for Super Bowls. I know.
So I wasn't showing up for two. We are fucking back.
Drake Bay, Mike Bram Bramble, top ratings to go. We're back.
Fuck you, Chiefs. Don't you dare call Mahomes a goat.
He's not the goat. Take it back.
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Always pay careful attention to the road and do not drive while distracted. All right, so some gambling stuff from this game.
We mentioned the Hertz Anytime TD, first touchdown score. We had a, Coop had a pick six.
Yeah. What were the odds on the pick six? Do we know? I think we had like 30 to one, right? Well, it was 15 for, um, I saw 15 that there was a pick six and then it was like 30 or 35 for the Eagles.
I think I saw that. So, um, yeah, that was amazing.
Although we saw a few in the playoffs. Was that the greatest moment ever for a white defensive back? Or do we have to go to the 60s? Do we have to go to like Paul Krause of the Minnesota Vikings? Did he do anything? Cowboys had a guy named Charlie Waters who did well.
Oh, Charlie Waters. Yeah, I think that's it though.
I think that really is. Don't worry about comparing Mahomes to their bad performances ever.
We need the white defensive back rankings. The white guys in Black History Month.
It's very sad. Did Jason Sehorne never do this? No.
He was in that good team, right? That got blown out by the Ravens. Yeah.
That was it. Yeah, so at one point in this game, Mahomes was, this was with 4.49 left in the second quarter, and it's 17-0, and the Chiefs go two terrible runs, Mahomes sack.
And now they're giving the ball back to the Eagles again. Mahomes was 5-10 for 24 yards, a pick six, and three sacks.
And this is 25 minutes into the game. It was just shocking.
Yeah. Because we were looking.
How many over the years, how many times when the Chiefs are losing, did we text each other? Uh, the, the chiefs live line, right? We needed them to get a first down in the end of the second quarter. Like we are going to see some life out of them before we even consider it.
Thank God they didn't give us that opportunity. well so 5 for 10 for 24 yards and then we get to halftime

and it's not much better

he misses Hopkins on that 3rd and 11

Sal he ended

21 five for 10 for 24 yards. And then we get to halftime and it's not much better.
He misses Hopkins on that third and 11. Sal, he ended 21 for 32 for two 57 with three touchdowns.
Yeah. He hit every over and I'm sitting there.
So this is my bad beat gambling story. So a million dollar picks.
My biggest bet was cheese minus one and a half. That was for 500 fake K.
And then the second bet. Oh, it's fake.
Yeah. Well, it's fake.
I don't even know. Okay.
Second bet was this 250 K parlay Eagles state and a half my homes, 200 plus passing yards. And I'm rooting.
And there's a third leg that I'll get to. So the 200 plus passing yards seem inconceivable.
And then they start having these garbage time drives. And when they scored the second touchdown and he, he had like one 87, one 93, they're inside the 15 yard line.
I'm going nuts in the suite. I'm like, Oh, he's going to get it.
He's going to get it. He gets it.
The Eagles go three and out and the chiefs. And now I'm hustling back to the pod.
The chief get the all-time garbage time touchdown to worthy and it gets to 62 the third leg of my parlay was under 60 and a half and the final score was 40 and 22 they scored two touchdowns in the last four minutes to fucking beat so i lost that one too i think i had a losing year for billion dollar picks because of that last touchdown so the the Chiefs just sticking it to me every way. I love that you're with these FanDuel executives they're watching through their fingers because the Hurts touchdown, they're losing tens of millions of dollars.
I'm losing 500,000 fake dollars! Get me out of here! Well, you know, House took a shot because Christian, one of the Fando execs who loves House, and we're talking about the bets on the ringer Sunday pregame, and he's like, well, House, he did his usual House move of he took the Eagles in a tease with the over. Like classic House.
Like kind of getting in, but not totally being in like halfway. I was like, yep, that's House.
I have a great have a great house story. I guess we'll talk about Vegas later, right? We're going to do all that.
New Orleans, yeah. New Orleans.
It seemed like Vegas because we were in a casino. Yeah.
And I have a house. Should I tell the house story now that just typifies it? House, we're in the casino.
He goes to the ATM because we had a bad

run at blackjack, and I'm proud of you for making

us get out. I've known

you to sit at the same blackjack table,

win or lose, till like five in the

morning. The vibe wasn't there.
This is Friday

night. The three of us,

I think I was like three

out of 15, and House lost

almost every hand. I don't know how he did it.

I was like, you're letting us leave. This is great.
A lot of times I would would go to the ATM. I'm like, how many times I have to go to the ATM? Is Bill going to lose his friendship if I don't sit and lose more money with him? But anyway, so we leave the blackjack table.
House goes to the ATM. He's got like a new card or something.
It doesn't let him take money out. So he has to cash advance.
So he's not getting the $12 VIG that you would normally get on 300. It'd be $30 to take out cash.
It was $344 he had to take out, and he had to wait on the long cashier line to get that money out now. He had to show his slip, and then he doesn't even gamble with us.
He didn't gamble. So we end up at a craps table with the fantasy football guys he got vigt out he said no after he lost to the ATM he said no like that's responsible gambling I can't even beat the ATM I'm out I'm not playing but for some reason paid them 40 extra dollars not to gamble so he ended up at a craps table with Craig and Danny.

Danny from the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.

We were having a great time playing craps.

And JJ is there.

JJ Jadjus-Skrepski, host of New York, New York,

who's had a couple and is dialed up to 10.

And he was locked in.

He's yelling at dealers.

He's hitting points going, pay it, pay it. Screaming, screaming.
And then Raheem comes in, also from the Ringer Sunday pregame. Yeah.
And he's not really doing anything. And then all of a sudden, he just bets on the don't come line for the shooter across the table because he thinks the guy looks like a bad bet.
And we're all on the comb line, which is like

on the poker table for the craps table

for people listening. Y'all want the craps

table to be a line, betting on the shooter,

rooting for them. There's this weird dynamic

that develops. Raheem's just shorting

it, basically. Guy hits,

and JJ just gets mad at Raheem,

which he should have. He's like,

don't take sides against the family, Raheem.

This is indefensible. Indefensible, Raheem.
He's yelling at it. And I was like, it is, it's indefensible.
So Raheem ends up not doing it. So anyway, Raheem became the don't come guy.
But we were there. House is there.
Van is behind us. We're all pulling bets together because it's a $50 craps table, which is absurd.
And we ended up, we were there till almost four in the morning. We were there, we were down to, um, we started with like 600, right? We were down to 40 bucks in the tent, right? Yeah.
We just couldn't get momentum. Built it back up to 1400.
So that was nice for us. And that's real.
That's not like a million dollar, that's real money. Yeah.
Craig had a nice little run. Yeah.
And then at the end of the night I had like, I just got on a heater and I just wasn't throwing a seven for like 30 minutes. Yeah, right.
It was great. But what happens is when you start doing one like that and more and more people come over the table and people start betting and everyone's betting points and it's like three minutes between throws.
I know. And he's like, I'm hot.
Get me the dice back. And this guy's like, give me a hard 10, give me a hard six, give me two on this.
And it's, and by the time he, so I, I, I know. And he's like, I'm hot.
Get me the dice back. And this guy's like, give me a hard 10.
Give me a hard six.

Give me two on this.

And by the time he... So I blame the guy at the other side of the table.

You know what?

I think it's intentional.

I think they slow play it because we were pretty conservative.

We were playing the pass line.

Then we were playing the odds behind it.

Yeah, we were just having fun.

And we were playing the comp.

But if you get bored and they take forever, that's when you're like, shit. If I have to wait three minutes between each role, I'm going to play the field.
I'm going to play a couple more numbers. I think that's where they rake out.
You were getting mad because there was a guy on the other end of the table who was pumping his fist because you were hitting every number except ours, right? Right. This guy probably made 15 grand off of me.
Right. He's getting crazy.
See, motherfucker, you're icing me and making money for me at the same time. Then we finally hit the number.
And then the best part was there's some bet that the fantasy guys were doing, which is like, you can bet eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. And somebody has to hit all five of those numbers before they throw a seven and it's 30 to one odds.
It seems inconceivable. And I was throwing it for so long.
Only the 11 was left. And then I finally hit the 11.
And I've never seen those guys happier. They were like euphoric.
First of all, they were arm in arm. You should post that picture.
They were locked. I should post that picture on Instagram.
For like 40 minutes, whenever they weren't rolling, they were like, come on, we could do this. They were locked arms together.
I love those freaking guys. When the defensive line is watching somebody about to attempt a game-winning field goal, they had their arms around each other, but literally for an hour.
Yeah, I love it. It was a Danny Kelly, right? They had a bet.
I don't know what the bet was, but between the three of them, whoever lost, I think it was like a season-long bet, whoever lost had to sit in the middle seat coming home, and they were on my flight and couldn't be entertained, couldn't listen to music, couldn't watch TV, couldn't read a book the whole time. And if they fell asleep, they would just wake them up.
And Danny was in the middle. They let him watch the map.
They let him watch the map on the Delta flight. I was like, these guys are good.
This is it. That's hilarious.
Yeah, it was great. It was a good hang.
Everybody was in rare form, including Raheem, who was trying to short the table for some reason. I'm going to talk to HR about Raheem.
I might have been an HR violation. Yeah, it might have been a little bit.
JJ was the MVP, though, and he blew out my right eardrum, and I was covered in spit by the end of the night, but I loved it. It was great.
When he showed up, you turned around to greet him and you were about to roll.

You took the dice over the table

a little bit. I know, because I got excited.

That's a dice violation. I'm like, oh!

Then I'm calling it like an announcement. He's got one

more dice violation, then he's out of here.

He's going to have to go back to Urban Street.

Yeah, exactly.

Then when you roll it and would kick off

the table, JJ would yell, same dice!

Same dice! He'd yell at the dealer and the dealer's like, you're not even rolling. Shut up.
He had this superstition about same dice. I got to say, he really did get the energy going.
Screaming pay it at the dealer. You're not going to believe it, but the dealers, they don't love screaming pay it.
Right. It's kind of a good job.
And you hit the, it's pay it, pay it. And a dollar for you, bro.
Do what you want with this. This is a dollar.
So that casino used to be called Harrah's, and I guess technically still is, but now it's the Caesars. I've had, I think, of the most fun gambling moments in my life.
For some reason, at least five or six of them have been. It's just my favorite place to probably play Blackjack or Craps.
The dealers are all nice. They're all from here.
They seem like they are. And they're just like, they move at a pace so you feel like they're not just trying to rush you out.
It seems like they're rooting for you. When you bet for them, they really appreciate it.
And I always really enjoy it. It's right in the middle of downtown.
So you can leave and just walk to where you're going. I thought it would be packed, by the way.
I was there the night before. We could have sat any blackjack table on Thursday night.
Well, they checked the prices up. Yeah, but $50 is, you know, in Vegas, that's any Saturday night, right? I guess.
But it seemed like everything was $50, $100, so I think it was scaring off people a little bit. Any other gambling stuff? Jake Elliott was way over on all his total points.
I thought he had a shot at MVP for a minute. He had four extra points and four field goals.
He actually had to kick seven field goals, but with all the false starts and everything um uh hurt was what two plus 280 yeah plus 280 but hurts most rushing yards was like six to one i think right oh did that hit yeah he had 72 barkley at 57 and then mahomes at 25 like that was the highest on the chiefs So that triple crown bet that I stayed away from because it seemed like just a trap.

It seemed like impossible to hit all three.

It ended up being Mahomes passing, Xavier Worthy receiving.

And Hurts rushing.

And Hurts rushing.

So I wonder what that must have been like 20 to 1.

I have no idea.

What are the odds of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least.
Yeah. Where they had probably like the sixth or seventh best thoughts, triple crown bet.
That was bizarre. I can't recommend it.
We both had Hertz touchdown, right? I mean, I guess that's good that we did that. Um, uh, I don't want to talk out of school, but, um, yeah, I wouldn't call the FanDuel guys elated that the game went over.
no. I wouldn't say there was high-fiving in the suite.
And the Mahomes yardage props going up, I wouldn't say that was a high-five special either. No way.
The Kelsey and Barkley stuff, they told me, and I said this on Million Dollar Picks, that the most one-sided bet of the week from a prop standpoint was Barkley to score a touchdown.

Oh, really?

It was like 99.9% of the bets were on it,

and the no TD was plus 150,

and it was like $0 on it or like $7 or something.

So Barkley ended up not getting it.

It's his birthday on Sunday thing,

picked up steam somewhere around Friday.

And I was like, I don't think that matters.

I really don't. I think if he scores three touchdowns,

I don't think we have to say it's because he turned

to picked up steam like somewhere around Friday. And I was like, I don't think that matters.
I really don't.

I think if he scores three touchdowns, I don't think we have to say it's because he turned 28

today. There's nothing to do with it.

I think that's fair. Especially it's not like it's

like a major birthday. It's like, oh, cool.

28. How do we feel

about any other betting stuff that you wanted to hit?

What was going on at the Super Bowl party you went

to? Yellow was plus 280.

Tails for the coin toss. Tails for the coin toss.
Let's get rid of the anthem betting because it went over, but they're grading it under, I think. Why? Because he said he repeated a line three times, like just for flair, just to show off.
He said the land of the free because he bet the over, I think. In the land, I live in the land, whatever it was, he did it three times.
Why didn't that count? That was his performance. I don't know.
You can't do that. Well, you can't like sing the song and then add where you can't launch into American Pie like halfway through the song.
It's how long the performance is. It was two hours, two minutes and whatever.
You can't pay. And then it was close, and they cut to the fighter jets, and you never know when the word brave ends, because it's loud.
I don't want to hear ever again that John Batiste is the national anthem goat. Get that shit out of here! Was Mahomes listening to the anthem? I don't know.
I don't think so. Was he thrown off by the anthem? Because there's no other excuse.

John Batiste held the ball.

Would hold a note longer than Mahomes

could hold the ball.

Patrick Mahomes, get out of here.

Just get out. You gotta leave

the nightclub. You're out.

Oh, shit.

Well, Mahomes hit all the overs. He hit his touchdown

over. Did he hit?

How many rushes did he have?

He had four. He needed five and a half,

right? Shit. So he didn't hit

any of the rushing stuff.

We were counting on the kneel downs.

That's an underrated aspect

of the game that we didn't talk about.

We could kill Mahomes, but they had

24 yards rushing outside

of what he did.

You could get him a running back at some point.

Hunt, three for nine. Pacheco, three for

seven. That was one of the reasons

I love it. 24 yards rushing outside of what he did.
You could get him a running back at some point. Hunt three for nine, Pacheco three for seven.
That was like one of the reasons I loved all the Mahomes overs when I was planning the game out of my head was I didn't think the Chiefs were going to be able to run the ball. And it turned out they didn't think so either because they started the game and they basically threw the ball every down it seemed like.
And they were trying to keep the Eagles off pace. Seven carries outside of Mahomes.
mahomes yeah didn't work did you have matt oriza punting for over 310 yards no no i did not was that even a bet they had on the total number of yeah i think they did i think they did so it's a pretty good one wait how many did he have he had six punts six punts. Yeah, 311.
Six punts for 311. Yeah, what a weird game, man.
Elliot's 50-yard field goal. Oh, you had people in the suite were congratulating me on your behalf that you, the Devontae Smith, that long pass.
Oh, yeah. Long pass.
That was one of your favorite props. 20 and a half.
Yeah, I mean, he had killed this defense, Spagnola's defense. I mean, that's another thing.
Spagnola's got to take a hit, too. But, yeah, his last three games were averaged like 95 yards against Casey.
It's tough, though, when your offense is such dog shit, I think it has to start affecting the defense at some point. Because the defense did get a couple stops.
And, you know, they got the interception when it seemed like the Eagles might be going up 14-0 they got the ball back and then just over and over again they were just getting kicked in the nuts by the offense it's unusual let's we'll take one more break and then we'll talk about your week in New Orleans plus plus some look ahead bets for next season This episode is brought to you by Verbo Private Vacation Rentals.

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That is L-O-O-M.com. Well, it's the saddest time of the season.
There's no football. There's no Guest Alliance for next week.
You are our Guest Alliance champion. Two legends fell this season.
Me and Guest Alliance. That's right.
It was always like, well, Simmons, when it gets to the big moments, he'll win and Sal's going to lose again. You beat me.
And then Mahomes, he got kicked off Goat Island. And the Chiefs are now mortal.
And now we can actually talk about them rationally again. And we can talk about the refereeing.
It was really getting me mad. You saw me and Hench going at it.
Yeah, you got mad at Hench. I know, but everybody's got to go crazy with the calls.
And it was like, he got Brown. The A.J.
Brown pass interference to start the game. He hit the guy in the face mask three times.
Everyone's like, when the booth says, oh man, I don't know if I call that

there. That doesn't mean it was a terrible call.

Why do we have to make that leap from

that could have gone either way to

oh my God, that was the worst call.

Oh, it's fixed. Calm the hell

down, everybody. Jeez.
But at least

we don't have to worry about that for a minute.

I hope. I don't know.
It's nice

to not have to talk about the referees.

So we

have NFL next

year. I'm going on

Thank you. I don't know.
It's nice to not have to talk about the referees. So we have NFL next year.
I'm going on Fandle right now. Do you have the odds? I do.
Okay. I'm going to see if I can find.
Eagles and Chiefs favored. Wow.
That never happens. What, anything surprise you on those odds? I'm seeing 650 plus 650 for Chiefs and eagles ravens 7-1 bills 8-1 lions 9 oh i that lions 9-1 and niners 14-1 i'd like to i'll book those bets from people if really they want those yeah i think those are so we should talk about this with the chiefs.
I don't think the chiefs have missed their long-term window, but I wonder like how much rehab repair they have to do with this nucleus they have. Cause they have a lot of stuff to fix, but they're also, they have a money going out and all these different directions.
Right. You know, it's not like, Oh, we need a left tackle.
Cool. Fucking 12 teams need a left tackle.
You're not the only. You drafted a left tackle last year at the end of the second round.

If you missed on that pick,

that's what gets into what we talked about earlier with.

If you start missing these drafts or missing picks,

it starts to have this cumulative effect.

So that the stuff that they need,

it's not like you just go to the store and buy it.

Like everyone wants a left tackle.

But we talk about the, what do we call it? The KCD?

Like it's a CD, like plus 650. You keep pounding it.
They'll win once in the next six and a half years, right? So that should be okay. But I also think these other numbers are fair too.
Like the Ravens have to be licking their chops a little too. The Bills at eight to one.
Your team, I got scared. I thought my team and your team were the same.
Cowboys 55, you want to guess the Patriots? Don't look. I just looked, but tell us anyway.
150. Fourth from the bottom.
Is that fair? Ridiculous. I promise you we won't be the fourth worst team.
I love this. I love it.
We're going to go 10-7 next year. Wow.
Yeah, we're going 10-7 next year. I don't know that for a fact.
If we hit the draft. Just because Brady is better than Mahomes conclusively, it doesn't mean the 2026 Patriots are going to be good.
It's not just that Brady's better than Mahomes. Mahomes has to leave Goat Island.
Get off. Take a hike.
Get your suitcase and leave. Take your wife with you.
Take your dad. Take everybody.
You're out. You could take a ferry.
You can swim back. You can jump on a raft.
I don't care. Get off the island.
You're off going island. You can take Donna Kelsey.
Take her too. Just looking at these blindly, Chargers 29-1 jumped out of me.
Commanders 23-1 have to be taken seriously because they laid a nice foundation, have a good QB and a good coaching staff, and have some stuff that they can do in the offseason. What about the Rams at 30? We don't love them.
Well, it seems like they're selling off guys, though. They're trading Cooper Cup.
How did he do? He wasn't key to their success.

They kind of played the Eagles better than anybody, though.

Is Minnesota at 33-1 nuts?

What if J.J. McCarthy's good next year?

Right.

I was going to say, what if I told you Sam Darnold

sat in an aisle seat and coached me on the way back?

Is that true? Does that affect your odds anymore? Did that happen? Really? Yeah. He's going to sign like a 50...
Well, maybe he couldn't find a flight. It was a tough flight to book if you weren't...
You're trying to leave New Orleans on a Saturday. Baltimore 7-1.
I wish those odds were better because that's a team I would think too. If they were in the 10-1 to 12-1 range, I'd be excited about it.
Green Bay 8-1 will be a sexy pick. I'm not doing it.
Houston 27-1 with some receivers coming back and a couple more draft picks maybe. Bad division.
I don't know. I like theams and i like the bills again the bills also we didn't talk about them how pissed must they be that they couldn't beat this chiefs team get the super bowl or that they couldn't do anything against the offensive line like what the eagles did you watch the offensive line this week and you could tell pretty quickly because they were doing those design rollout plays that gave me PTSD to Brady against the Giants that first Super Bowl.
When he was under such siege, he had to do the quick rollouts with extra blockers, plant your feet, and then chuck it. And they were running those in the first quarter.
And I thought, I was saying to Tommy, who I went to the game with, I was like,

this is not good if they're running that kind of shit.

That means they think they can't block these guys at all.

Tommy Hearns? And then we could watch Tommy Hearns.

Tommy Hearns was the thing.

But you could see it.

I don't know what I was picking up during the game

that whether the TV was,

but you could just watch the four guys pushing the line

and all the other guys kind of coming back, and the Chiefs receivers weren't really good enough to get open. It's the greatest advantage in sports, being able to rush a quarterback without blitzing.
Yeah, so Mahomes was bad because he missed guys, but there were other plays where he just didn't have guys. There was nobody to throw to him.
He didn't want to throw interceptions. Real quick, MVP, don't look.
Who do you think's favorite? I might just look. Well, we would have said Lamar or Josh.
Yeah, Lamar plus 450, Allen 500. It's Drake May.
Mahomes 700 700. Oh, Drake May.
60 to 1.

He's not on there, is he?

Yeah, he sure is.

He's right in there with Sam Darnold and Michael Penix.

Sam Darnold. Just a win for Gino Smith.

By the way, Bryce Young is on there too.

I went to a party yesterday that Shaq was at and Bryce Young,

and they were talking to each other, and it was amazing.

It was like Mr. Work and Tattoo.

I was fascinated. He was a foot and a half smaller than Shaq.
Is he smaller because he's smaller? I mean, everyone's smaller than Shaq, but he's especially small. Bryce Young's 5'8 and Shaq's like 7'1.
It was just amazing to see them next to each other and be like, which guy's the professional athlete right now? Shaq is always at any party is just riveting. He's the best.
Because it's Shaq. He's the best guy.
He's like the nicest guy. He's the coolest guy to everybody.
He's like just really a genuinely nice guy, but he's also gigantic. He looks like Shaq.
You just see him moving through. You can't not see him.
Everybody's looking at him. He handles it great.
He's just a nice guy. He's got to be the greatest on Bourbon Street.

You can sit on his shoulders.

You don't have to deal with the slop and everything.

He's a practical joker.

He'll slap guys in the ass with beads and look the other way.

He's the best athlete to party with that.

Barkley's the best celebrity I've ever seen in public,

just with how he navigates all the people around him.

Because he's big.

He's obviously 6'6", so you notice him right away. But he just loves everything.
People just gravitate to him. Shaq's a little like that too.
So we have any other future ads? I guess they don't have who's getting traded wherever. Give me some of the New Orleans highlights.
You were here doing a bunch of great ringer stuff, including getting hit in the face with a Slim Jim. Yeah.
That, um, yeah, Paige, I was doing a prop challenge with a bunch of celebrities and sports personalities. And we put a video together and you can catch it.
It's all up on the ringer. One of them, we had, we had Paige come over and she's an influencer.
I don't know if people don't, people know who she is. Right.
Um, and we had a bunch of challenges. We list, Oh, you could hit this golf ball.
I know she's into golf. You could catch this roll of toilet paper.
Uh, we could do a slim gym slap fight. And she's like, I want to do that.
And so we each hit each other with a slim gym and I hit her lightly, uh, as a gentleman. And then she gets, stands up and smacks the crap out of me in the neck with a slim gym.
And I welt on my neck for the next time. I'm like interviewing Marshall Falk with this giant welt on my neck.
And I'm like, when did the welt go away? Like on the planet, when you saw me, like it was still, it was dark. So you probably couldn't tell, but, uh, it was staring at me at the craps table, but yeah.
So I was like, wow, she has, this has to, it's got over a million. Like, how does I make this the biggest thing I've ever done and my wife not find out about it it's um so anyway um that was a lot of fun there's a lot of great stuff on uh JJ's like don't put makeup on that well bro roll the same days same well don't go against the family don't have don't have a watch same well can we can we do a fandom show where just people play crafts with JJ after he's had three drinks? I feel like that'd be an amazing show.
How does he gain steam at four in the morning? Like it's so crazy. He, he's like, when you turn the TV up, the volume up and it's just going and that's just the volume and never, there was no sign at all of him being tired.
He, I think he'd still be there if we didn't want to leave.

The FanDuel ringer party was great Friday night.

We had Megan Thee Stallion and Blink-182.

I guess they insist on touring together.

I don't know.

I didn't know.

I couldn't believe they played all those songs together too.

We talked to some fun people.

I'd never talked to Diana Rossini before.

She's a delight.

We talked to her for like a half hour.

And she's like seven of your cousins.

Yeah, she is.

It's like the honorary member of your family almost.

The good ones.

Yeah, yeah.

I thought she was great.

I thought the Tyreek Hill announcing he's playing for the Cowboys was going to be the

highlight.

But she was up there too.

That was a fun one.

Yeah, we talked to some fun people.

I've been to a bunch of different Super Bowls.

I hadn't come in a while.

There was the one in LA that doesn't count.

The last Super Bowl that was in LA that I went to

was, ironically, Ravens-Niners.

I just kind of felt like I'd gone.

Is it really?

Yeah, I hadn't gone forever.

Liked watching the game.

I liked doing the pod with you after the game,

and I just kind of never went.

Never wanted to go for the Pats after the second Giants game

because it was just so emotionally...

It's so bad to be there when your team...

I was feeling for the Chiefs fans.

When you're limping out of

the stadium,

it's the worst.

Half of the people are the happiest

and you're just in fucking sports

hell. It's the worst.

Last time it was in New Orleans,

you remember I had to do a bit. You had to do the bit.
Yeah. For Grant.
Yeah. It was a Sal hugs fans of the losing team.
And I wasn't quite sure who the losing team was because we had to leave and set up in a good spot before the last drive. It was Ravens.
Who was it? Ravens 49ers. Ravens Niners.
That was the blackout game. That was Kaepernick.
First down and goal from the four and they don don't score the go-ahead touchdown. And people are just zombies walking out of there.
A lot of people are like, get the fuck away from me. I'm not hugging you.
I don't know who you are. Yeah, so it's a big risk going down there if your team's playing.
I mean, Chiefs fans must be demoralized tonight. Well, the other...
So I saw Pat's Rams was the first Superbowl I ever went to, which was like, honestly, one of like the 25 best moments of my life, probably that whole day. It was amazing.
And then the second game was the blackout game. And so when I had a chance to go to this one, I was like, this is going to be an amazing game.
It's a super dome. This is just going to be magical.
And, and everything was great except for the game. But New Orleans is, the funny thing about New Orleans is it just never changes.
Like you go to, and I mean that in a good way. It just feels exactly like it did 23 years ago.
All the streets are the same. A lot of the hotels are the same.
They don't really, it's not one of those places where there's like 17 crazy new things that are up. They just really keep the soul of the place intact.
It's really a special place. I love it.
And it was especially like, I don't want to bum everyone out, but there was a National Guard presence in the streets because of that asshole last month. Yeah.
That attack. Yeah.
So that was a bummer. But the spirit of the city, I mean, it's one of, would you keep it? If they said bill three or four cities rotating or do you just do new Orleans? Do you vet 20 years? No, to me, it's Miami, new Orleans, Vegas.
That's it. And I think you can make a case for LA cause of, uh, cause of, but it's like, you know, it's think if you're just I was watching the Rose Bowl highlight I mean that's my favorite game of all time anyway 52 17 Cowboys over Bills but it just looked beautiful right with the sun setting and everything like it's nice to have an outdoor uh option too yeah I think I would say New Orleans Miami and Vegas for the way the city kind of blends in with the game when it gets like have it in Glendale, but Glendale, people are staying in Phoenix.
They're staying in Scottsdale. It's all over the map.
It seems like they're getting out of the habit of putting it in cities just because they built a stadium. Like when they were in that with Jacksonville.
We don't need Atlanta. I would go New Orleans 10 times over Atlanta.
Well, the other thing with New Orleans is, um, it's really hard to get hotel rooms here. So the ticket demand, it's almost easier to get tickets than it is a hotel room anywhere near where the game is.
So a lot of tickets were down lower than face value, right? Yeah. Tickets dropped.
Um, and you could get it on the market today for face value or lower.

What we couldn't get was a hotel room because there was none,

and it's really hard to get in and out, obviously.

But that's why they dropped, right?

Because if you're not going to get in a hotel, then the tickets drop.

It's a fascinating market.

Did we Super Bowl in Dallas?

Did we do that?

Yeah, we did.

I went to that one.

That was kind of... I thought that was a pretty good one.
The weather was terrible, but it was... You know, that was okay.
But yeah, wouldn't you say Vegas, New Orleans, and Miami? Those are the four. I would add LA back into it.
I really love watching that, those Rose Bowl games. But yeah, if you have to go three, I think those are the three.
Because San Diego's out because they don't have a team. Right.
So they can't have it anymore. Yeah.
So they try Atlanta. I'm just trying to think of the southern, the hotter cities that we don't need to see in that anymore.
Well, one of my things, I really didn't want to... This is a bad city for me.
And you've seen it in action. Yeah.
Especially like the Super Bowl 12 years ago and NBA All-Star. And just bad...
There's a lot of bad choices here in New Orleans. It's not, uh, and I, I'm not unproud of the decisions.
It's just like, you kind of lose. It's, it's got food that you probably shouldn't keep eating, but you can't help it.
It's got the best dessert. It's got the casino.
It's got a bunch of other stuff. It never closes down and, uh, you can really make some mistakes.
And I try to be on my good behavior. I was so proud of myself.
Didn't, didn't have a drunk cigarette. No cigarettes.
I bet over one and a half cigarettes. And now you lost.
That was real. Yeah.
I lost all my profits. You lost on that.
And you lost on my home. And you can forget about going to santa clara next year for the super bowl the 29th worst city to have a super bowl by the way oh that's so that's the other thing we were talking about is like next year santa clara which is like i we did the we did the wrestlemania in santa clara it was a mess and that was wrestlemania superbowl is like like a way bigger event.
It's really hard to move around. Yeah, New Orleans.
Great job. Great city.
Great food. Love being here.
It's a one-of-a-kind. I said Wednesday, I was like, I have to mix a blackened chicken salad into this rotation.
I'm just going to die with these roasted oysters with Parmesan. This is the best thing I've ever had.
Never got it. Never got it.
So I can keel over any day. Never happened.
Yeah, they're frying just, and they'll fry anything here. Yeah.
They just don't care. Anything's possible.
Anything else you want to hear from the week? That's it. I mean, I have like a parent corner kind of thing, but I don't know.
Is that another break? Yeah, no, do a parent corner. We're good.
Well, first of all, I went to a small party. Before that, what's the age where you stop buying your kids anything at the airport when you come home from a city or a game? Or thinking about bringing them home a gift or anything? Yes.
I'm going to say probably age seven or eight. Thank you.
Okay, good. Yeah.
All right. I win that argument.
I'm going to quote you as the gospel.

I don't want to hear why I have to hear from everybody and bring a gift back.

These kids are bigger than me.

The people who make you feel bad?

Who made you feel bad?

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, the people in this house.

The second thing is, I've been down on squares and pools and stuff for Super Bowl, but when

I see how excited the kids get and it's like their first dip in their toe into gambling. I like the Super Bowl squares pools at parties now.
I really do. And even though it's me collecting at the last second and drawing the numbers, like while they're kicking off and everything, it's terrific.
I hate putting it together. And then I see like kids like, no, I know I have two one, but oh no, oh no mile wide they're going for two point conversions like eight year olds

screaming at each other whether they should go for two

points or one so

I'm backing on the squares

0-2 is the final

could not have been on a lot of cards

0-2 not good yes that's not something

you would buy on Fandle

yes seriously

but my oldest kid who's in Oregon won

because I put his name in and he's like

he's like you know what just give it to all

the little kids at the in and he's like,

you know what, just give it to all the little kids at the party.

And I was like, well, you're no son of mine.

I would never do that, but sure, I'll do that.

So that's that.

That's really the paracord.

I'm back in on squares.

But also, is this the biggest Venmo day of the year?

Oh, that's interesting.

That would be a good Venmo ad.

That should be a Venmo Super Bowl ad. Biggest day of of the year we won't tell anyone if you don't tell anyone it's what happens oh what happens in venmo stays in venmo that should be their strategy right you know i we forgot to talk about the halftime show by the way the uh the kendrick thing where i knew he was playing not like us because i was tipped off but they they teased it so that it was like am i gonna do it am i gonna do it and then they did it and the whole crowd at least part of the crowd was singing the chorus and it was uh it was pretty great i i mean he had already decisively won the beef and then this was like you know almost like going for two and running the philly special when you're up 52 to seven with two minutes left and just like the all-time f-u exclamation point it was pretty great did people love it i feel like on on social it's getting killed a little bit it was exactly as polarizing as i think he wanted it to be like he didn't play all, like, here are my five best songs.
He didn't do the usual thing and it was all leading. Visually, it was pretty cool.
Wasn't as polarizing. Kanye had a freaking commercial on Fox.
What? I'm not joking. What was the commercial? I don't even know what the hell it was.
We were all staring at each other like, what is going on? He seemed to be in a dentist chair. He was just saying gibberish.
And this is after an insane week on Twitter. We don't have to get into it, but we live in a really messed up time.
He went after everybody. He's probably going to go after us.
Yeah. And Fox let him buy a spot.
Unbelievable. Yeah, kick him off the island too.
But that was the biggest shocker. That and the Chiefs losing by 35 points, whatever it was.
You know, it wasn't a great year so far for the gambling. Didn't do well on any of the Chiefs bets.
Million dollar picks got killed in the playoffs. Just not great.
But my mom's text about what the hell is going on during the halftime show made up for 90% of it. She didn't know what was happening.
It should almost be like its own social media channel of old people trying to understand the Super Bowl halftime show act. Which I think is part of the point of the halftime show act, right? To just make at least one third of the country go like, what's going on? What's he saying? Yeah, that should be the ratings.
That should be like, hey, how many mom texts were sent? What the hell is going on? Or dad texts. This is terrible.
I don't think anyone over 60 enjoyed it. Right.
I don't necessarily have a parent corner. I have a wife corner and you kind of know this story, but I'm going to tell it again just for the pod.
So you guys are all here and house is here and house posts a picture of him and page Sparonek on, on his Instagram. It's him and van and page Sparonek.
I took it. Arms around them.
You took the picture. So my wife that night is like, hey, what's going on with house? And I'm like, what do you mean? And she's like, did you see his Instagram? I'm like, no, I didn't.
What happened? And she shows me like, this is crazy. Like his wife's like, what's is it? His wife's going to like, like put all this stuff outside.
Like, how do you do this? If you did this, I would fucking kill you. Really? And I'm like, and I'm like this, that's Paige Sparrow.
So now I have to walk her through the whole, this isn't just like, I took a picture with like an attractive blonde. Like this is actually like somebody in the golf community.
She's got 4 million followers on Instagram. You showing her the Instagram pictures? I brought her on Instagram.
I'm like, this is who it is. It's a celebrity.
It's actually a very smart move by house for social media to take a picture with her. Like this will probably be like the most looked at Instagram post.
Joe house, a man in his mid fifties is probably going to have this year. So he has to do the post.
So now I'm explaining to her this whole cottage industry of what Paige leveraging social media the way she does. I wouldn't think leading your wife to Paige's Instagram page would be the move.
But this worked? No, she was pro-Page. She was like, oh, I get it now.
I see it. Yeah, more power to her.
She just didn't understand why House was doing that. She thought it was like some sort of midlife crisis.
My marriage is in the tank thing. So I had to walk her through it and then also introduce her into the world of social media and sports and how it takes some twists and turns.
It was very exciting. So when you said later that your wife might not have been thrilled

about the Slim Jim, like, you know what?

We're all just trying to stay relevant here

in the old sports media world.

It's all about clicks.

I'm not going to end up probably with that woman.

Yeah, I don't think, you know, I'm not interested in her.

It's fine.

But, you know, Joe Howe's not a polarizing guy. I've never had a fight with him in 37 years.
Of course. One of the highest approval rating people of anybody who I'm friends with and beloved by my wife.
And it was like the first time she's ever been mad at Joe House. Didn't last, but it was shocking.
She should have been mad at him for taking money out of an ATM and not gambling. That to me is a worse offense than any of the page knocked him out of goat island my wife today um the chiefs are down i don't even know what the hell score it was and she comes up to me and i obviously have a lot of money on the chiefs and um and she's uh and she says boy chiefs are getting beat bad this is not what i expected is this what you expected and i'm I'm fucking hemorrhaging money at this point.
And so I think I just, I think I ran to the bathroom and cried. You have no belt for your pants anymore.
You've lost everything. I'm still there.
Yeah, it's weird. Like, dead wrong about the game.
Don't even feel that bad about it. It's like, what are we going to to do? Like the Chiefs did this over and over again.

It was idiotic to go against them.

And I just didn't want to do it again.

After that Ravens game last year,

I just don't.

I just didn't want it.

So now,

now we can treat a football season normally.

Yeah.

Now we can just bet against them.

Now we don't have to talk about this mystical thing

that whatever.

Just have some opinions.

And now there's room on the island.

Now the room,

the island is back.

The penthouse suite

has opened up

on Goat Island.

Tom Brady's back.

That's it.

All right, Sal.

So this is it

for yet another

football season for us.

This is season

07 to 16.

I think this is season

19 for us.

I'm like Sirianni

with the anthem.

Next year is our 20th season for Guess the Lens.

Oh, it is.

Oh, we got to do something.

Yeah.

Yeah, because we started in 07 and next year is...

Oh, no, is it?

No, it's our 18th.

I can't count.

Maybe 19th.

This is 2024 season heading into the 25th.

Yeah, so next year is 19th.

We got to do like an SNL thing.

Do like a retrospective.

Have all the great music that's played. Everything.
Well, this is about as bad as I can remember doing the next year is 19. We're going to do like an SNL thing, like do like a retrospective, have all the great music that's played, everything.

Well, this is about as bad

as I can remember doing the playoffs in a while.

Just never had a feel for it this year.

The playoffs?

Oh, yeah.

The playoffs in general.

But we're going to do some basketball stuff.

You still got Against All Odds,

and you still have the Poplar Kate Show.

Yeah.

But you're going to come on a couple of times. And then we're doing Masters.
We're bringing baby to all the Masters this year. And that's the most important sports moment of the year for everybody.
We've got basketball coming. You've got the NBA.
Now you can watch NBA. Now you can care about NBA.
I'm excited. I can't believe the AD didn't work out.
We can bet on the draft. We got draft props.
Yeah. We'll be right there.
Yep. Shador Sanders over unders.
Pro day. In a few days, we'll find out who won the next-gen stat prop on FanDuel.
The fastest player. Wouldn't that be worthy? Worthy had to have gotten the fastest, right? Oh, I guess so.
Yeah, with that. I don't know.
Yes. It's got down the field pretty quickly, too.
Anyway. Yeah.
Well, I'm going to miss you. This is always bittersweet for me.
I would like to have gone out on the wind. We can always just call each other on the phone or just see each other in person.
There's that. Yeah.
All right. Thanks to Steve Cerruti, Kyle Creighton, and Gahal as well for producing this all the way through.
We did not do YouTube live this week because I'm in New Orleans, but we had a lot of fun

doing that too.

Thanks to everybody for spreading the word for us.

And I got a new rewatchable.

It's coming tomorrow night too.

So it's a big movie, big movie from the 80s.

Any guesses?

Really?

Big famous 80s movie.

I'm going to guess wrong.

Haven't done it yet.

You've done all of them.

No, there's a couple left.

This is a big one.

Very excited about it.

It's SNL related.

Coneheads.

It's not Coneheads.

Oh, forget it.

Blues Brothers.

We did the Blues Brothers.

Oh, that was close.

Yeah, it was time.

Anyway, that's coming on Monday night.

So, Sal, last time of the year.

Good job by you. Good job by you.

Good job by you,

buddy.

Bye. On the wayside On the blue side

Never on saying

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