The Chiefs Break Buffalo’s Heart, Philly Rolls, and Guess the SB Lines With Cousin Sal

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Speaker 1 All right, we are on YouTube. Cousin Sal is here taping the BS podcast after another magical NFL playoff game.

Speaker 1 Sal, I've had the worst weekend, and I can't wait to talk to you about it this game reinvigorated me it poured a red bowl and a coffee and a giant line of cocaine into my body i am ready for this podcast baby all right so okay so good that means you took the chiefs and i had them too

Speaker 1 and but just as an emotional hedge and then you look back i'm like oh my god i have so much money on this team as an emotional hedge it's going to be emotional the other way when I have to explain to the family we have to move if the bills win.

Speaker 1 So wow, what a game. Do it every year.
Do it every year. Who cares? Yeah.
so there's going to be a lot of stuff over the next two weeks about Chiefs, Eagles. We had this already.
The Chiefs are back.

Speaker 1 Come on. Here's where I've landed.
And I feel like I've been here for most of my life, but really, especially as I get older, I really like true greatness. Like, I really appreciate this Chiefs team.

Speaker 1 I bet on them.

Speaker 1 I really wanted them to cover the bet, obviously, but I also really like the fact that every once in a while in sports, you have this measuring stick, not just for the sport, but for all the sports, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I hated the Yankees in the late 80s, you know, or late 90s. I hated that team, but I respected the shit out of them.
When Arizona beat them in 2001, it was like, this is momentous.

Speaker 1 The Pats were able to get that in the mid-2010s, and Philly beat them with Foles and Peterson. It was like, this feels momentous.
I think you need teams like that.

Speaker 1 When the Warriors lost in 2019, you need teams every once in a while that are truly great. And then you see how everyone measures up.
And they did it again. I don't know when this stops.

Speaker 1 Of course you do. Yeah.
You don't want parody in everything all the time everywhere.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, I think if you ask people honestly, they would want Washington and Buffalo to have advanced today, right? So that wasn't going to happen because everybody wanted it, right?

Speaker 1 But other than that, I love that the Chiefs are in it. Mahomes is great.
And we saw the greatest quarterback of all time in Brady. And now we're possibly seeing his greatest successor in Mahomes.

Speaker 1 And that is exactly why I hate when people lead with, oh, the referees screwed them.

Speaker 1 No, I don't like the negative stigma because that then football could turn into your crappy sport. Sorry, the NBA.
And where everybody's talking bad about it.

Speaker 1 And like, we're forgetting the fact that we're seeing Mahomes and he's the greatest

Speaker 1 or close to the greatest. So stop that talk, you know? Yeah, that Buffalo doesn't get the two point.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And Casey gets the ball down one fourth quarter and you're just going, Mahomes is, Mahomes is taking this down.
He's going to score.

Speaker 1 He's going to get the two point and they're going to be up seven. I was already mentally in the stage of if Buffalo then gets the ball and scores the TD, will they go for one or two?

Speaker 1 Like the Chiefs hadn't even done anything yet. You just knew they were going to go down and do it.
I mean, the Mahomes thing, just big picture, this is now five Super Bowl appearances before age 30.

Speaker 1 He's 20 and three in the playoffs. He's beaten Josh Allen, who I think along with Burrow, but I think Allen over Burrow and probably over Lamar, Allen's his number one rival.

Speaker 1 He's beaten him four times in a row row now in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he just feels like it feels like that Brady versus Mahomes, that first playoff game, that the first playoff loss Mahomes had. Brady beats him.
And then it's like he just handed a torch to him.

Speaker 1 And he's like, all right, go ahead, take it. And now it just feels like the Chiefs became the pets.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He handed the torch and Mahomes, I think, like played a little game with the Bills. Like, look, we don't turn the ball over.
We haven't turned the ball over since November.

Speaker 1 There's been like 280 turnovers in the NFL. And of them, none of them attributed to the Chiefs.
So what do they do? They fumble

Speaker 1 recovered, but they're off sides, the Bills, so it doesn't count. Like two plays later, like, all right, we're going to give you one more chance.
This is it. And even this isn't going to matter.

Speaker 1 And they fumble. And that was the only turnover of the game, right?

Speaker 1 And still, they couldn't get it done because you got the Chiefs with the ball last, and that's what's going to happen. Well, you have on the flip side, Buffalo.

Speaker 1 Allen comes out, first drive, he throws two picks that get dropped. Right.
Allen fumbles twice, pulls back both of them, recovers both of them, including on that fourth and one.

Speaker 1 I did have a moment where I thought to myself, maybe this doesn't happen. Because I remember in the Pats Eagles Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 which I sadly watched with nephew Kyle.

Speaker 1 Even at the bitter end,

Speaker 1 I don't even remember what the score was, but the Pats did get the ball with like a little over two minutes left. And they were on like the 20.
And

Speaker 1 we were all like, we're winning this. And then when Brady got stripped, it was, it was so shocking.
It was like, oh my God, somebody beat us.

Speaker 1 That's, there was a moment in this game. It was when Buffalo was driving, wondering if they were going to go for two or not

Speaker 1 and thinking, like, what happens if like they go for two, they get it?

Speaker 1 And Casey just something weird happens, and all of a sudden they're punting and they're down one, and Buffalo has a chance to just run out the clock on them. But that's the thing.
Case avoided this.

Speaker 1 They say, what did they say? 17 straight, one possession wins. Yeah.
It was 16 straight. It was crazy steps.

Speaker 1 And because of that, when they're driving at the end and they're minus 146, I'm crazy about the numbers, as you know. I yeah, you were taking guys on your track every time out.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the hell to do with the numbers, but I'm wild about them. I just love it.
And it's minus 146.

Speaker 1 I'm like, wow, that's suspiciously low for this team that's going for a three piece and never loses one score games. And then they were minus 154 when they had the three-point lead

Speaker 1 and the bills were driving or whatever with that last possession there. So

Speaker 1 it is just amazing what the hell they've done. And I look at the numbers.
I'm like, it doesn't even really add up with Mahomes and his stats and how they keep winning. And, you know,

Speaker 1 he didn't have an incredible game. He ran for two touchdowns.
He only threw for one. Yeah.
The stats, the team stats were pretty even.

Speaker 1 How'd the Bills outrush them by just 12 yards? Like, I don't remember a lot.

Speaker 1 It felt like 200.

Speaker 1 And my cook wasn't in the game on a couple of big plays. I do think McDermott, who, by the way, they found out he's Bill Burr's brother.
I didn't even know this.

Speaker 1 Oh, is is he? Yeah. Yeah.
Isn't that something? They talked about that. I didn't hear them announce that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He got out-coached. He got bailed out, I think, early when they scored on fourth down, but he was out-coached, and Spaggs wasn't going to let it happen twice in an hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was a weird game because Lombardi, shout out to Lombardi, always used to talk about the middle eight, the last four minutes of the first half, first four minutes of the second half.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs have the ball and they're driving down in the last four minutes of the first half. They get that crazy word call that

Speaker 1 we do this all the time. I still don't understand the rules of football.
And I watch football.

Speaker 1 Neither guy had possession. The ball touched the ground.
And it just seems like that's a dead play. Nobody gets it.

Speaker 1 And they're back at, they should have gone back to the 20 instead of the five, whatever.

Speaker 1 So they score, and you start going, wow, this could be a blowout. They're up 21-10.

Speaker 1 They stop the Buffalo here at the end of the half. They get the ball at the Chiefs at the start of the thing.

Speaker 1 Well, they didn't stop them. The Bills scored.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying before the Bills went down, it felt like the Chiefs were going to blow the game open. I got you.
Yeah, yeah. Right.
Buffalo comes back down. He hits Matt Collins and that touchdown.

Speaker 1 It's 21-16. Now, all of a sudden, the Chiefs get stopped at the top of the.
So they actually lost the middle eight because then Buffalo came down and took the lead.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they still won the Chiefs somehow. Yeah.
Yeah. It was weird because, yeah, you're right.
Because the Chiefs got the ball in the second half. Is that what you're saying? And then they.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought they were going to get last possession in the first half, first possession, second half. You score both times.
You're up 28-10. Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 The Bills had the ball and then hooked. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was interesting. It really was.
And let's put everything in perspective. But that play that hit the ground and should have been called incomplete.
It was holding on Hamlin.

Speaker 1 He like mugged Kelsey, like backpacked him, jumped out his back. So it would have been first down at the 20.
Maybe the Bills don't have enough time to drive back and get the six.

Speaker 1 I don't know that the Chiefs score either. But, you know, but let's.
Before everybody points to, oh, the Chiefs got lucky again. No, that turned out to help Buffalo.

Speaker 1 Because the challenge had been overturned. You're right.
They probably don't get the ball in the first half.

Speaker 1 And that was the one real mistake that the Chiefs made was leaving Hollins open on that one play. Hollins ended up having two big plays.

Speaker 1 His over-under for catches was basically, I think it was one catch. It was around even.
It was like minus 130, something like that.

Speaker 1 If I'm Buffalo.

Speaker 1 And I leave this game, do you leave this game going, how did we not win that game? Or do you leave that game going,

Speaker 1 we're just like

Speaker 1 three plays short every time we play this team? We have the fourth and one, the QB sneak, where Allen actually gets stuffed. Who knows if he actually got stuffed or not, but they called it Casey Ball.

Speaker 1 You have the Kincaid play

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 I don't know. That was the fourth and five.
Spags calls the blitz. You knew it was coming.

Speaker 1 Allen makes a great, just to jump up and heave it toward Kincaid was great, but they had that wide shot of it. And it seemed like the ball was almost like spinning.
It was almost like

Speaker 1 when a baseball, when they hit like the pop fly, that just has some weird thing to it. And Kincaid dropped it.

Speaker 1 And I'm sure he's going to take shit tomorrow, but I actually thought that seemed like a pretty tough catch. Did you think that was a drop or a catch? It was rough.
There was traffic around him.

Speaker 1 It was kind of like a moon ball, you know, and he's got to catch it at his feet. Probably should have grabbed it.

Speaker 1 But in that situation, like that's, he was running for his life and he's just trying to get good positioning on that ball. But if it's the kind of play that a D-back drops over and over again,

Speaker 1 like the tip play at the line or the flutter, and it's like, oh, I can't believe he dropped that. And, but Kincaid was on offense.

Speaker 1 But to answer your original question, the Bills are looking at this, like, not that we're three plays away, that they should have won the game. Like, they're done losing to this team, right?

Speaker 1 They already beat them in the regular season. They're not like us where we could rationalize it and be like, well, they just can't beat him at Arrowhead.
It's a different beast.

Speaker 1 They know deep down they're just as good, and they can't take it. This is a demoralizing loss for them.
I mean, after a while, you do maybe believe that

Speaker 1 you can't overtake the beast, but yeah, another. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Well, there's the what more do we have to do factor, right? They won time of possession, they won the they won the turnover battle, they outrushed them. Mahomes had fewer than 20 completions, right?

Speaker 1 You know, like

Speaker 1 I don't know. They scored 29 and they became the first team to give up over 30 to the Chiefs.
Weird.

Speaker 1 Well, so the Chiefs have the ball after the two-minute warning. The Bills don't get it.
And the Bills need to get a stop.

Speaker 1 Did you think they were going to get the stop? Because I did not.

Speaker 1 And as it turns out, they had two chances to get a stop because the Bills scored, they got the first down on second down, but the guy stepped out of bounds. So now they have this fresh set of downs.

Speaker 1 And each time the Chiefs were able to get the eight, nine plays. Conversely, Buffalo had a bunch of chances to make a big play in a fourth and one or a fourth and five, fourth and three.

Speaker 1 And there was a couple they didn't get. So

Speaker 1 I would assume that would probably be

Speaker 1 driving them crazy, too. They did get that when they were down, what was it, seven when they got the fourth down play in the end zone to Samuel.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which was a nice play.

Speaker 1 I didn't think they were going to get that one. McDermott need, oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 Spags needed to dial up what he did for the very last Bills offensive play for that fourth down play because it came out of a timeout.

Speaker 1 They have a a timeout and then one play on third down and then that play so that was bad for the chiefs defense but i'll tell you you're right with the short yardage and i think we i think we watched almost three and a half hours of quarterbacks plunging on fourth and one today between the two games the most fourth and ones it felt like ever in the history of the league i like that they don't make it sometimes i really do like maybe maybe teams will i don't like it like when we were growing up in the 70s and 80s where you know it was a fourth and one attempt on offense every six weeks or something, but

Speaker 1 I don't know, just be a little more creative on the fourth and ones. But Cook wasn't even in the backfield for a lot of those.
So Buffalo missed two points, right?

Speaker 1 Two two points. Then they missed the fourth and short.

Speaker 1 And you would think with Allen, they would be the most devastating team in the league with any fourth and one, fourth and short, two-point, which was,

Speaker 1 I don't know, one of the legacies of this game. It was kind of shocking not to see them get certain plays.

Speaker 1 I felt like the Chiefs were slightly better just because I felt like their defense, I trusted their D a little bit more to maybe get a stop when they really, really, really, really needed it.

Speaker 1 Even that you mentioned that spag splits on the last play, that fourth and five. This goes back to what I was saying earlier about.

Speaker 1 how fun it is to have a team like this that we have a real history with it.

Speaker 1 You know, we root for these NFL teams and the entire team changes over in two years, you know, or you have these teams, like, look at what's going to happen to the Cowboys and they haven't even made the Super Bowl, but two years from now.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 We lost the connection. What did you say?

Speaker 1 Two years from now, are Dak, C.D. Liam, and Prescott all going to be on the team? Probably not.

Speaker 1 And that's usually how it plays out. I know.
You're right.

Speaker 1 But in this team, same infrastructure. It's Mahomes.
It's always some cast of running backs and wide receivers with Kelsey. They always have a decent line.
Chris Jones is always there.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid always is doing some funky plays that seem like they're going to work. And then Spaggs, every time they need it, seems to dial up the perfect blitz.
That blitz on Allen was a great call.

Speaker 1 I was waiting for it the whole game and it didn't seem like they could find it. Then they found it.
That's what they needed before the last score. But you and I, I think, thought, we were texting.

Speaker 1 We thought this game was over. Like you said, that second.
I did. I thought when it was 21-10, I thought they were going to blow it out.
Well, because, I mean, they were picking on that.

Speaker 1 Elon guy, like, you know, like Romo said it. He was like, you know,

Speaker 1 cover one, single safety, it's just going to be the stop right route all time with Worthy picking on this. Great, yeah.
So, by the way, the Bills Romo crushed Brady today, like by 35 points.

Speaker 1 That was the biggest blow up. Yeah, Romo, I thought, was uh, that was about as good as he's been in a few years.

Speaker 1 I thought he was all over the game, spelling, spotting stuff, spelling stuff out, telling us what was going to happen. Um,

Speaker 1 I, with, with the Buffalo piece,

Speaker 1 the defense had a couple injuries, and it was pretty.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say flimsy, but it was a, it was okay, never like a great defense to begin with. It reminded me a little of what happened to Washington today.

Speaker 1 Washington probably would have lost anyway, but when it came out over the weekend that they were losing their run-stopping defensive tackle, yeah.

Speaker 1 And you can kind of pass the point in overturn, and it felt like they're secondary. I just didn't trust the people they had.

Speaker 1 That poor Benford got two concussions in a week, it looks like you and I haven't mentioned Christian Benford or Deron Payne

Speaker 1 at all over 23 weeks. Yes, no, ever.
Yes, you're right. And those arguably were the two biggest, you know, one, you know, neither, both for not being able to play.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Benford actually got out with the second concussion, we think. And it was like the first series.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you have these things where you, you've already decided mentally where you're going in a game.

Speaker 1 And it's already like if you're taking Washington, it's a pretty flimsy case. It's like they're not going to turn the ball over.
Jaden Daniels is going to go up a level.

Speaker 1 He's going to be able to match Philly and Hurts is going to kind of suck. Like that was the case.
The other case was Philly's going to run all over them.

Speaker 1 Washington's going to run out turnovers and Philly's going to blow them out. You could see the two cases.
It was like, I like the Washington case more. So I took that one.

Speaker 1 And then you find out their run stuffers

Speaker 1 done.

Speaker 1 When I didn't really like the run defense to begin with,

Speaker 1 it's like a 15-yard difference when he's out than when he's in. It's like, oh, this isn't a great sign.
But yeah, I mean, we'll talk about that game later, but Philly was also great.

Speaker 1 The Buffalo thing, this might have been their best chance. Cause I'll say this.

Speaker 1 I still think Baltimore might have been the best team from a talent standpoint.

Speaker 1 And I watched in this game, I guarantee, like the Ravens, the Ravens fan watching this game today, you had to, I was texting Mallory about it, and she's like, still sick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's, because you watch what was working against the Chiefs. The Ravens were better at pounding the ball, running the ball, being physical, and they had a better defense than the Bills.

Speaker 1 And I'm sure they felt like, shit, if we had just gotten in there, we could have beaten that team, but they didn't.

Speaker 1 I mean, we talked about it last week, how important so stupid, but how important turnovers are. And we'll get to it in the Philly game, which absolutely dominated the discussion.

Speaker 1 But yeah, if the Ravens don't turn the ball over, it's a different story altogether. And maybe if they get a home game too against Buffalo, but does it seem like football is just now about

Speaker 1 the turnover battle? Who wins? Yeah. How you did on fourth and one and fourth and two? Because there's so so many of them now and the variance of those is huge.

Speaker 1 And did you just avoid having a massive fuck-up?

Speaker 1 And it seems like in a game like this, in Buffalo, all season was kind of pulling off games like this, and their luck finally ran out today.

Speaker 1 And I know the Buffalo fans last week were pissed because everyone was dwelling on how Baltimore blew the game. And they're like, well, we also won the game.
We didn't mess up.

Speaker 1 We didn't make mistakes. This game, they made some mistakes.
Yeah. Well, that's why I took the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to take a lap because I recognize like whoever had the ball last pretty much when the last six minutes are going to decide this game.

Speaker 1 But when I was thinking about it, I'm like, wait a minute, I'm going to go against the Chiefs, who, like I said, haven't turned the ball over since November and they're trying to repeat and they're an arrowhead and they have a chip on their shoulder against Buffalo who beat them in the regular season.

Speaker 1 Like, no freaking way. It's a point and a half.
That's stupid. The line was too low.
I think if it was Chiefs by three, it was a different

Speaker 1 thought process. But the one and a half, how can you not?

Speaker 1 We did this last year. You hit the Ravens too last year, right? Yeah.
In the AFC title game.

Speaker 1 And that was my never again moment. It was just like, as long as they're three and a half.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 As long as the Chiefs are the Chiefs, it's just not worth it because they're going to figure this out year after year. So

Speaker 1 on the plus side for Allen, before we get to some of the negative stuff,

Speaker 1 that pass he threw to Matt Collins before halftime was fantastic. Factor.
I don't, the list of QBs who can hit that one with with the speed and the accuracy that he hit is not.

Speaker 1 It's basically him and Drake May.

Speaker 1 Oh, him and Jake. Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I lost consciousness for a second there. That was serious.
That was a chip. It was him, Drake May, a couple others.
But he hit that one.

Speaker 1 He also had that big drive to

Speaker 1 give them the lead in the third quarter. He had the other comeback drive when it was 29-22.
He brought them down again and they scored.

Speaker 1 And I was thinking, like,

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I don't blame this loss on Allen in any respect.

Speaker 1 He's in that zone now that I'm not sure you want to be in as a great athlete. And I would call it the Tommy Hearns zone

Speaker 1 where

Speaker 1 you're awesome, you're memorable, you're a generational talent, and yet you're the other guy in the sports movie over and over again. And how do you get out of that? How do you snap out of that?

Speaker 1 Hearns was in all these great sports moments and he lost most of them, but he was still great. Like he's like one of the best boxers I've ever seen in my life.
He was a 101. Nobody like him.

Speaker 1 Six foot one, 147. It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Crazy punchy power. He fought everybody.

Speaker 1 And yet his legacy was like he lost the Leonard fight. He lost the Hager fight.

Speaker 1 So how is he different from Lamar then in that respect? Because they're pointing the same fingers, right?

Speaker 1 I think Lamar is a little bit of a different case because he's kind of come up short in these big moments. Allen's had these moments.

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Roberto Duran,

Speaker 1 who's Lamar?

Speaker 1 Drake May. No.

Speaker 1 That's a, who is Lamar? I feel like Lamar's story hasn't.

Speaker 1 I want to, I'll answer that next year. Not quite ready to next year.

Speaker 1 Enable him. I want to see one more.
I want to write this down. Well, it's tough for like what boxer didn't come through every time it mattered.

Speaker 1 I don't know who that is. But no, the point with Josh is like, they've lost games where he was really good in the game.
I thought he was really good in the game today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't know if you're a Bills fan, you're like, man, Josh has to do more. That's not why he lost.
No, there's a bunch of people. I thought the play calling was atrocious.

Speaker 1 I thought the OC,

Speaker 1 I just don't understand some of those third and short, fourth and short. It felt like anytime they play action, they had guys all over the place.

Speaker 1 So I would be more mad about that if I were them. Yeah, I think the Bills fans, at least early on, I could see they're very upset with the coaching staff.

Speaker 1 Because when you can't blame the kicker, when you can't kill the kicker and they can't, it goes right to the quarterback or coaching staff. And it seems like the coaches are getting.

Speaker 1 We should real quick shout out to James Cook. I mean, that was a spectacular, spectacular play on fourth and two.
By the way, good job.

Speaker 1 Another great play by Josh Allen flipping that to him on the quarterback option. With some speed.
Sometimes the toss is too soft. Right.

Speaker 1 That one kind of whipped it to the point that Cook might have like, whatever. But it it kind of had to get there then, right? It had to get there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And for him to be able to stay horizontally and bridge on his hand without the elbow falling and extended over the goal line with the other hand was really one of the better plays I've seen all year.

Speaker 1 We've had a real resurgence with good running backs. This position that everybody thought didn't matter.
And then you look around, it's like Barkley and Jameer Gibbs and Cook and going down the line.

Speaker 1 It seems like it's more important than it used to be.

Speaker 1 Back to the Alan Tommy Hearns thing for a second.

Speaker 1 The sad shot at the end when the team's running out the clock

Speaker 1 and they cut to the guy, the losing QB on the, just sitting on the bench with that deer in the headlights look. It's a tough one.

Speaker 1 You don't want that to be the legacy. In a weird way, from a career move standpoint, I actually think he gains human interest stature.
Because now he's come so close

Speaker 1 and he just can't get over this. Like next year's Cheap Spills game is even more interesting.
This year's game was so interesting. Kyle Brandt did a Rocky IV

Speaker 1 mountain parody

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 him as Sly and Mahomes as Drago. And I don't even know what next year's version of that is.
Right. Oh, maybe it's Clubber Lang than Lamar.
No, no. Lang won a

Speaker 1 title. No,

Speaker 1 yeah, Lamar is. Yeah, I don't know what you're doing with Josh Allen.
That sucks with the cutaways. You need more cutaways of his fiancé, right? I mean, that's.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's losing that battle, too, Taylor Swift. So, but yeah,

Speaker 1 he's playing as well as he can and just can't beat this team. Well, and then there's the Buffalo piece of it too, right? So even it's always lingering with the Bills game.
Like even it's 29-28.

Speaker 1 They had just scored a touchdown. They have all this momentum and there's Bass.
And I'm sitting there going, I've watched Bass miss this.

Speaker 1 Like you're watching the PAT intently. It's like, it's the Bills.
I've seen Bass miss this. I'm not positive this is going through.
I'm thinking about Casey minus one and a half, minus one.

Speaker 1 And he made it. But the baggage of the Bills is another thing.
This is, there's some franchises like the Lions, that playoff loss they had

Speaker 1 two weeks ago or last week. Last week.
It was last week. Yeah.
It feels like January has been 75 days.

Speaker 1 That playoff loss they had, they haven't had a lot of those because they're never in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, the Bills have had, you know, it feels like 100 of these.

Speaker 1 They're racking them up. They got to get this game at home.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe with Pete Carroll in the division, the AFC West, and some of these teams getting better, you know, the Chiefs won't go 15-2 or 15-1 going to the last game. That's a hard ass, though, Sal.

Speaker 1 I know. Because

Speaker 1 you look around the AFC and there's just a bunch of teams that feel like they're poised to maybe jump up a level or teams that had bad luck in 24. What are the Texans going to look like next year?

Speaker 1 You know, even in their own division, could the Jets be better next year if Aaron Glenn turns out to be a good coach? Could the Patriots be next year's Washington? Keep my fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 Could the Chargers make a jump up? Could the Broncos, like, you go on down.

Speaker 1 I think the AFC is just going to be better next year.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to pick all the over-unders correctly with you again. You're going to be doing such a good job that last year.
Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 But the Chiefs, as I run my mouth on this whole thing, they went through the whole thing on the road too last year. So I don't even know what matters.
Well, you know, they lose Rashid Rice

Speaker 1 before the season. He's just a non-factor.
This guy who seemed like he was going to be Mahomes' number one target. They're able to patch together.

Speaker 1 Smith Schuster was so bad in the preseason for the Pats. It was like, how are we?

Speaker 1 Can anyone take this guy from us? And then he's making big plays today. Hopkins, who really didn't do that much today.

Speaker 1 Kelsey, who looked like he was 55, but then Worthy becomes the key guy, this number one pick that they really shrewdly traded up for.

Speaker 1 Their drafts, the way that they've nailed the drafts, this is the difference between them and what happened in the second part of the pats dynasty with in the late 2010s when they just started missing drafts the chiefs are getting carlaftis they're getting mcduffy uh they're getting worthy over and over again they're nailing guys who are like playing big roles in these playoff games and that's that's how the pats that's why it ended yeah seven the seven 16 17 18 drafts they just weren't getting people and that was it yeah thank god um i you know i will say the one thing we we skipped over with kelsey like that's another thing the Bills would be like, oh my god, we held that guy to nothing.

Speaker 1 He had 14 straight games with 75 or more, 14 straight playoff games. He was invisible, two catches for 19 yards, and they embarrassed him most of the game and still couldn't get it done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a lot of rough moments there for the Bills. Yeah, they felt what was their rushing passing.
So they did

Speaker 1 they ran the ball 32

Speaker 1 times. Yeah, 32 to 22, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they ran 32. Oh, 32, 34 attempts.
34 passes, 32 carries. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs were 35 carries, 26 passes.

Speaker 1 Did people look at this box score like 75 years from now, assuming the Earth hasn't melted yet and be like, whoa, that game, that seemed pretty close. Right.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey? What? He did nothing. What did the Bills win by? Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Well, then Hollywood Brown had that huge brain fart on the play when he was open and didn't realize he was standing out of bounds right that's another thing with the chiefs hollywood brown was supposed to be their big right you know that this big guy that helped them out and yeah he plants his right foot directly out of bounds on a ball that was uh it should have been catchable yeah they keep finding little things around the fringes like uh the kick returner

Speaker 1 made a couple big plays today you know these guys

Speaker 1 They they owe it. They are always able to locate them.
And it's a really, it's its own skill because that's the biggest way you can uh

Speaker 1 lose the checko and kelcey 43 total yards like how much would we pull back on our chiefs bet if we had known that was going to happen well don't you think part of it is everybody and their brother had the kelcey over yeah that is i think that was that and dallas godder were the two dallas godder hit his but those two seemed like they were the they gave everyone free barkley money and then they're like no no we gotta figure something out so one other thing with so we'll be talking about the chiefs going for the three-peat

Speaker 1 And I was going through looking who's three-peated in the last 50 years, which is half a century. That's a long time.

Speaker 1 Jordan's Bulls twice,

Speaker 1 the Shacobe Lakers,

Speaker 1 the late 90s Yankees,

Speaker 1 the Canadiens

Speaker 1 four in a row in the 70s, and then the Islanders four in a row in the 80s. And that's really it.
Unless you want to count the comments in the first four years of WNBA. This three-peat thing,

Speaker 1 especially in the age of parody, the Pats never did it. I I can't believe the Pats never did it.
I mean, I looked through it too. Obviously, they haven't.
And the Steelers game.

Speaker 1 It was the Cowboys game. And the Niners.
It was the Nick Foles, Doug Peterson game. Yeah.
But out of Cowboys, Steelers, Patriots, Niners, it's shocking that there was no three-peat.

Speaker 1 And shocking that the Bears only won one. We didn't do a three-peat in a game where Brady threw for over 500 yards.
Yeah. Like, think about that.

Speaker 1 That was that we didn't get it. But this is fucking hard.
And you have these games where it's like they tipped our pass to the wide open guy on a fourth down.

Speaker 1 We missed the two point where the guy was, his foot was out of bounds. We missed the field goal at the end of the first half.
We needed those.

Speaker 1 There's so many things to get that right for three years in a row feels in a league with a salary cap feels impossible. Do you really? Mahomes is great, but it's not like Mahomes was like.

Speaker 1 you know, throw everyone on my back. I'm going to carry us all through the season.
I don't even think he was one of the three best QBs this year. How is it? It is Mahomes.
They were 15 and two.

Speaker 1 They were 15 and one heading into the week that they sat everyone, and he wasn't even a top three or four consideration for MVP.

Speaker 1 That's insane because his stats weren't Patrick Mahomes-esque is the problem. But as a Patriot fan and one of the few teams that have had two Petes, how much are you rooting for?

Speaker 1 It's not like 72 Dolphins are thrilled and do the champagne toast when a team loses.

Speaker 1 Are you rooting hard? Because I've talked to some people who have been part of like a two-peat

Speaker 1 and are rooting hard against anyone having a three-peat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's an interesting one. Like my dad really doesn't like when the Chiefs do well because he wants the Pats to be better historically than the Chiefs.
My thing is like

Speaker 1 whatever the Pats did, that's what they did. The Chiefs belong to this different generation.
And I, you know, like if the Chiefs win three in a row, it doesn't diminish what the Pats did.

Speaker 1 But I think other Pats fans are like, really need the Chiefs to lose, need the Bills to come through. It depends on your perspective on it.

Speaker 1 I personally was more, I'm probably leaning more toward it would be cool if the bills never won and we were like the last good AFC East team, but I'm more spiteful. Oh, wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's pretty specific. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But if the Bills never get one and then now we now with Vrabel and Drake May and 130 million in cap space and whoever we get number four and some shrew, and all of a sudden we can like try to take the AFCs from him.

Speaker 1 I'm in that mindset. But you're trading that for Mahomes could eventually pass Brady as the greatest ever in every conversation.

Speaker 1 You're willing to put that up for debate?

Speaker 1 So much is left for him to do that. Brady won seven.
Brady beat Mahomes twice. Brady had the Atlanta game, which is the greatest feat probably any quarterback's pulled off in a game.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of people. If he wins four in a row, if he four-peats,

Speaker 1 which you know, he's a game and a season away from doing, then the conversation becomes real. I don't know.
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Speaker 1 Seems like so long ago.

Speaker 1 I wrote down, Daniels kept trying to throw on a Superman cape and his teammates kept pulling it off.

Speaker 1 That's my, that's my, half of my take of the game. The other take is the Eagles are really talented and just had more talent all over the place and actually played really well.

Speaker 1 I thought Hurts was good.

Speaker 1 They used A.J. Brown correctly.
Barkley was incredible.

Speaker 1 Their defense made a couple,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 yet another punch fumble play, a couple stops when they needed it.

Speaker 1 There's a different version of this game without a couple of the turnovers that I think would have been really fun to watch if it was the Washington within a score with 10 minutes left with the ball.

Speaker 1 But instead, it became an absolute blowout. I don't feel terrible about picking Washington, but you knew in the first quarter it was a bad pick.

Speaker 1 Well, except for that first drive, they did everything you could ask for them, right? So I wrote for Washington, my big thing was Philly's going to run the ball.

Speaker 1 When Deron Payne went out, I'm like, this is going to be a disaster. And especially because

Speaker 1 Washington is one-time possession the last two times. I think it was 34-26

Speaker 1 last week against the Lions and 36-24 against Tampa. Maybe I mixed those two up, but I'm like, they're not going to win that.
They're not going to win time and possession. It was dead even.

Speaker 1 I was a little bit wrong about that because it was dead even time of possession. But that first drive, you must have been excited when he's converting fourth and twos and fourth and threes.

Speaker 1 Then we set

Speaker 1 a field goal that sucked. But I also don't know why they went for a field goal.
Like they, they were surviving fourth and threes all the way down the field and they have a shady kicker.

Speaker 1 So yeah, it was like Dan Quinn ran out of place. I was really surprised they went for it.

Speaker 1 I know the book probably said it was a wash, take the points, all that stuff, but the longer they're on the field, the longer the Eagles' offense isn't on the field. Right.

Speaker 1 And Barkley crushes their spirit three plays later. So Barkley gets it.
Deami Brown is the punch fumble.

Speaker 1 Eagles score again. Washton's about to punt.

Speaker 1 I thought it was the most obvious.

Speaker 1 I swear, I'm not just saying this.

Speaker 1 I was watching the line because I was like, this is the most obvious fake punt situation I've ever seen because they know if they're punting it back the and I'm watching and I and I was watching the whole play develop and I'm like, oh, they're doing it.

Speaker 1 Like as it was happening, and the Eagles were completely blindsided, which I didn't really understand.

Speaker 1 But then they end up settling for I thought they were. They only had one guy to cover two guys.
Yeah, but so, oh man, it was such a good throw.

Speaker 1 I think the word gets like, because it was like two tight ends like going out. And he had to judge the way the middle linebacker.
And he just shifted towards the guy on the right.

Speaker 1 And then he completed. And it was a good throw and everything else.
But yeah, they should have been a little more prepared. But

Speaker 1 kudos. So they only got three out of that, right? That made it 14-6.
Yeah. Yeah, I wrote down it was 14-6.
Washington had run 30 plays, and Philly had won seven, and Washington was losing by eight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But,

Speaker 1 and then Elliott missed the field goal. Right.
McLaurin scores. It's 14-12.

Speaker 1 And Washington goes for two, which I didn't understand at all, even though like, I don't understand how you're not going for the fourth and three. Yeah, right.
But then you're going for the two.

Speaker 1 It's second quarter. Who cares if it's 14, 13? So they don't get that.
And then you start doing the math. 14, 12.
Uh-oh, this is going to be a two-score game soon.

Speaker 1 And then Philly made a couple big plays. Like A.J.
Brown had that big fourth and five catch. I thought Hurts was good.

Speaker 1 Like, if Hurts had shown what he showed today in previous games, I probably would have taken Philly, but we hadn't seen it.

Speaker 1 For sure. I mean, we saw how successful he is with this team in the playoffs when he throws for 130 and 140 and 150.

Speaker 1 And this one, this is the anomaly or I don't know, the outlier game because what did he throw for this? He threw for

Speaker 1 246. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And a couple big runs too. Running for three touchdowns.
So

Speaker 1 I was like, with that, with that field goal miss, I was like, you're playing right into Washington's hands.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like with this team on third and six, they should run every time on third and six or third and five. They're going to go for it on fourth and one or two and make it.

Speaker 1 Instead, third and six, the one thing he can't do is get sacked. And he did.
And then, what's his name? Misses the field goal. And that was, and that was, I was like, all right, they're back in it.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was just too much, too much firepower eventually. 20 and 12, under two minutes left.
And the guy fumbles the kickoff and gives Philly the ball back. And now it's 27-12.

Speaker 1 It's 20-12, minute 44. I feel like they could have gone down, gotten a field goal, and it's 20-15 halftime.
Right. They take it.
Instead, it's 27-15 halftime.

Speaker 1 And then Philly gets the ball and they stop him top of the third quarter. But then

Speaker 1 just kind of flamed out. They got the three and out and then Philly got the touchdown.

Speaker 1 That was that.

Speaker 1 And then right when it seemed like Philly might or Washington might be able to drive down and get the

Speaker 1 super fun cover,

Speaker 1 Ecker fumbled. Right.
And that was that. I thought Daniels was a winner in the game regardless.
I thought he was really, really good. And

Speaker 1 a couple of

Speaker 1 the fact that they put that team together with duct tape kind of got exposed in round three. Great, great season for them, though.
It's such a tough spot, right? A rookie just can't,

Speaker 1 especially in Philly, to go to Detroit and Philly and do that and be

Speaker 1 a bad lineman.

Speaker 1 Four straight road games. Yeah.
They lose their best guard and they lose their run stuff for going into Philly.

Speaker 1 And yet I kind of needed to see it from Philly. I wasn't positive they had it.
Like just in general. Like I, you know, were they going to do weird shit?

Speaker 1 Well, Hertz was good, but then you hear about him showing up in the knee brace, and I started getting PTSD from the Tyson Paul fight.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, Tyson showed up with a knee brace, and I lost a lot of money. I don't know, maybe this isn't a good idea.

Speaker 1 Well, then they have this weird center situation where one guy's got the knee brace and the other guy has a bad back. And right.

Speaker 1 And Brady kept talking about it because I think he, you know, he's he knows how important the center is because he played QB. That never really mattered.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially with the tush push and everything. I hate that we have to say tush push.
My God.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 do we need to ban this play

Speaker 1 like is it or is it just not going to be until somebody breaks their back in a tush push and then they're like we have to stop this somebody was seriously hurt so i want to know what year they brought it back because it was banned right you couldn't pull a guy you still can't pull a guy right forward even though they don't call it a lot and you there was a time when you couldn't push it so uh you you couldn't push.

Speaker 1 So I don't know. It doesn't jive with the current rules about like, all right, we don't want guys hitting each other's heads in the wedge and we want safety.
We care about physical safety. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, it doesn't look like a football play and it's boring. And then they have a little problem on their hand with what Washington was doing.

Speaker 1 I think the whole world that wasn't rooting for Philly was like, good, keep hitting them. Keep hitting him.
Keep getting a personal foul.

Speaker 1 And then the ref admonished them is like, we're going to spank you. There's going to be a spanking that goes on here.
If you do it again, we're going to give them a touchdown.

Speaker 1 So you give them the touchdown. So we don't have to give them a touchdown.
It's so weird. So, would you get rid of it? Because, like, Buffalo tried a couple of times and it didn't work.

Speaker 1 I'm the wrong guy to ask. I hate it.

Speaker 1 I don't like it either. The team I hate most uses it most effectively.
And, but

Speaker 1 I don't like it.

Speaker 1 So, he's going to have to get hurt, though. I think.
I think that's the problem with this, right?

Speaker 1 Eagles, big picture. Do you feel better about them than you did a week ago? Or do you feel like Washton out-kicked its coverage and gave a valiant underdog effort, but this is what happens.

Speaker 1 This is the March Madness team that made the Final Four. Now they're playing UNLV in 1990 and it's Larry Johnson and Stacey Ogman.
And they're going, uh-oh, all right, this is running out now.

Speaker 1 I like that. You're such a college basketball fan.
I think it's just

Speaker 1 a little of both.

Speaker 1 Definitely Washington, the Cinderella thing, it came to an end. But I do feel pretty good about Philadelphia in the trenches there.

Speaker 1 So, and they could, you know, I'm not saying I'm taking Philly, but they could present problems like Tampa Bay did to Kansas City in that Super Bowl, where it's Mahomes is just running for his life.

Speaker 1 And there'll be one highlight where he's horizontal to the ground, completing a pass, but otherwise it's a long night. So

Speaker 1 they were excellent. I mean, what'd they have? 229 on the ground, they averaged like 6.4 carry.
Well, Saquon, who's, if they win the Super Bowl, I think will go down as

Speaker 1 the most popular Philly athlete, just moving into that, basically taking the Bryce Harper spot, but in the pantheon of like guys that the Philly fans love.

Speaker 1 He was 15 for 118 and three TDs today. The touchdown was spectacular, the first one.
Last week, he was 26 for 205.

Speaker 1 So in the two games, he's 41 for 323 with five touchdowns.

Speaker 1 And it's like, you remember in the late 90s when Terrell Davis was just ripping off like these crazy postseasons, like with the stats, you go back and you look like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 That's why he made the Hall of Fame for those two years. And this feels like a very Terrell Davis-y.
Yeah, you should start saluting.

Speaker 1 And the question you posed earlier, did he do a good deed for all running backs or just for himself and Derrick Henry? I mean,

Speaker 1 it's going to be a tough decision for GMs the rest of the way, but he did make a difference. I mean, the Eagles are much better because they got Barkley.
And he only had, like you said, 15 carries.

Speaker 1 Like, that's bizarre. They could add another 100 yards if he had another 10.

Speaker 1 Nothing. His rookie season, I think I said to you on this podcast that I thought he was the best running back I've ever seen.
And we fought about it. And then it became a clip that got

Speaker 1 no, we just argued about it. I was like, this is the best running back I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 I'll send out the, it's somewhere on Twitter.

Speaker 1 And we cut a social clip about it. And then when he hurt his knee and then he was in the Giants and it became one of those like, oh my God, that was one of my worst takes.

Speaker 1 But now I think, I think I'm back in it with the take. Like, what running backs that you've seen in your life?

Speaker 1 I guess the one thing with him, the pass catching, like, he even dropped the one today. The pass catching is a little iffy with him.
I still have Peyton as the best running back I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Only Barry Sanders, Peyton, and for a small stretch, Terrell Davis, like you brought up. I don't really.
Yeah, Terrell Davis is in there.

Speaker 1 I still think for one game, Emmett has to be discussed seriously. If it's like

Speaker 1 22 degrees outside, Yep. And I need a running back who will rush the ball 35 times today.
Who's your pick? I'd probably take Emmett. So I guess it would depend.

Speaker 1 Terrell is still the most dominant running back on a good team I've seen. Just felt like it was six yards every time.
Peyton was the best all-around, just special running back.

Speaker 1 But Barkley's,

Speaker 1 wait,

Speaker 1 it's a little video game-ish with him. This is a crazy year.
Like, this is, you know, I know they're not going to give him MVP, but 2,000 plus.

Speaker 1 Is he going to get 2,000 in the playoffs also? I don't know. Could he get to 2,500 for the regular season playoffs combined? Oh, I think so.
Yeah. That's in there, right?

Speaker 1 Well, no, it'd be, he needs like 150.

Speaker 1 And what's interesting is he gets screwed because of the one-yard plunge by Jalen Hurts, right? He had three of those. Otherwise, like, Barkley would probably have like 30 touchdowns.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I forgot that they played. What did he have in the Green Bay game? Oh, 25 for 119.
Yeah. So he's

Speaker 1 been over 100 in the three games. So, yeah, even though he was two or three before that, the last regular season games, he was spectacular.
So, he'll get over 2,500 combined. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, who's your number one running back ever? Is it TD? Well, I don't know. I mean, just from what I've seen,

Speaker 1 I think we missed a lot of Walter Payton's greatness, right? But I'll trust it.

Speaker 1 And if we want to keep going back to I mean, he wasn't on, I promise you, he wasn't on on the East Coast more than twice a year for his entire prime. But

Speaker 1 you always knew he would, the clips are amazing. The NFL film stuff was amazing.
And then the way everyone talked about how he's the best blocking running back ever. He's the best pass catch.

Speaker 1 Like he checked all these boxes that he threw. Nobody in that era was like that.
Tomlinson hit some of that stuff too, but I was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Peyton stuff is the most fun NFL films to me other than Barry Sanders. For sure.

Speaker 1 But like short yardage is so important now.

Speaker 1 I would say Davis and Barkley over like a Barry Sanders, but Barry Sanders was spectacular in his own right, too.

Speaker 1 Well, my Barry Sanders take, I've done this before, but my Barry Sanders take is probably more in your wheelhouse. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm like in the, probably the minority, but I would rather have Emmett Smith than Barry Sanders. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd rather have the four, five, six yards a pop than the guy who every once in a while can run for 70,

Speaker 1 but what, but was always looking to break the big play. I've, I've had a million arguments.
Oh, I would used to get in fist fights over this when I loved Emmett more than Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 And I don't think anyone has as many negative carries for negative yards as Barry Sanders, but there was something.

Speaker 1 I mean, you just go by Sports Center highlights, were so important back then, you know.

Speaker 1 So we have Jalen Hurts in the second Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 which is twice as many appearances as Matt Stafford, Drew Brees,

Speaker 1 Dan Marino,

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 We have Nick Nick Siriani in the Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 where it looked like he was going to get fired in September and early October. And since then, I think they've lost once

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You already won. You won your first title.
I got to say,

Speaker 1 my team has noticed a lot of talk with this win, and now we're rededicated for next season. Oh, I made a nice little breakout clip of it.
And yeah, I don't know what the NFL could do.

Speaker 1 I won like 10 years in a row, and I just sheepishly accepted my trophy and just kept my head down

Speaker 1 with my fans. Shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 You won once, and you're talking a lot of shit. So next year it's on baby.
Big freaking deal. And I don't know.
Like I said, the NFL has a problem because now this is a waste of a week.

Speaker 1 I don't know what they could do scheduling wise to make this interesting with me having won the title.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what's really annoying? The NBA

Speaker 1 has their trade deadline the Thursday of Super Bowl week. Oh, really? And it should either be this week or next week.

Speaker 1 Like, just for content, the NBA just shoots themselves in the foot over and over again. I've never seen anything like it.
Like, why would you have your trade deadline during Super Bowl week?

Speaker 1 It's so fucking stupid. Are they announcing it in the parking lot of Media Day? Like, how close are they getting? How much attention do they need? I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 Like, by Thursday, everyone is either at the Super Bowl or talking about the Super Bowl. I just don't get it.
I don't understand how they screw up shit like this. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 You think Jimmy Butler's going to the Dodgers? Yeah, they get everybody.

Speaker 1 Guest Alliance:

Speaker 1 Chiefs,

Speaker 1 Eagles.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to say

Speaker 1 it's in New Orleans. I'm going to say Chiefs

Speaker 1 by two and a half. Okay.

Speaker 1 I said, I've not seen it yet. Swear.
I've said it has to be one and a half because every line has been one and a half this year. And I'm going to say the Chiefs are favored.
And so now let's look.

Speaker 1 I pulled out my starters, by the way. Joe Milton made that guess.
Yeah. Well, you should have.
It is one and a half. Of course.
It's the biggest practical joke in sports gambling. Chiefs are to start.

Speaker 1 Why did the football scores get so weird? How did we never had 29 versus 20, 29, 29 in the fourth quarter never happened in our entire childhood?

Speaker 1 Like, everything's weird. The lions are weird.
Everything's weird. And not only that, I was like, oh, 29, 29.
All right. The one and a half isn't going to come into play.

Speaker 1 And then, like, we, you, me, and Hench, we listed like 10 ways the one and a half can come into play. Oh, the Bills can miss the extra point.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Chiefs could go for two and like, oh, yeah, I forgot. It's the NFL.
One and a half.

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What's everything up? Tell me, let's talk talk about it. Barkley over under.

Speaker 1 Let's do a quick tour. You want to guess

Speaker 1 for our fans on YouTube? Yeah. On the YouTubes.

Speaker 1 Barkley over under. Can I guess something? Yeah, you can do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Barkley over under, I'm going to say 85.5. No.

Speaker 1 114.5.

Speaker 1 What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just read his stats. I can't get back to Freeman.
He's playing the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 That means Cook almost had that, right? What did James Cook have today?

Speaker 1 I don't even know. It was

Speaker 1 70, 70, 80, somewhere in there. What else do you want to see?

Speaker 1 James Cook had 85 yards. Yeah.
Why was that a bad guess?

Speaker 1 114 is offensive with the Super Bowl. That means you're probably winning if you rush for 114.
They can't give him 15. They can't give him the ball 15 times.

Speaker 1 Plus, the Chiefs can kind of try to jam the line and make him.

Speaker 1 I dare you. I dare you.

Speaker 1 I'm betting the under okay um um do they have mahomes they do rushing attempts yet because that's my favorite bet oh okay you got to be hit 11 rushes today that that bet hits every single time in the mahomes of the playoffs rushing attempts is the safest prop in sports i'm not seeing uh rush attempts yet oh wait oh wait uh yeah i do see it okay what do you think

Speaker 1 i think they jack it up to like five and a half because it keeps hitting oh they jacked it even further. Six and a half.
I still like it.

Speaker 1 The over is a plus, but we like this bet more than Mahomes rushing yards, right? Because of the kneel-down factor. He takes jackets.
Yeah, the kneel-down factor kills the rushing yard thing.

Speaker 1 They got to figure that out. But you get three free.
We didn't talk about that moment today when the official was slapping the

Speaker 1 slapping Washington with the newspaper because they kept jumping off sides. And he's like, if this happens one more time, I did say it.
We're awarding a score to Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 So what would have happened from a gambling standpoint? Who gets on the score? Oh, right, right, right. We were trying to figure that out.

Speaker 1 Is there a way we could have bet on this? Somebody, like, could we bet on this at the Super Bowl? Philly's, no, no player on Philly scores a touchdown. Yeah, the scolding score.

Speaker 1 Does the center get it? Does the center get it? I'm not sure. That's good because it's like an own goal, kind of, right?

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen a ref say that before? I didn't even know that was

Speaker 1 like they made that up. Yeah.
It's not a lot of brotherly love being sent that way.

Speaker 1 one other play was that the measurement and again the chiefs won because they're better and everything else

Speaker 1 the measurement on that fourth down where the the line judges the two refs yeah wildly wildly different and they just don't measure anymore they don't take those chains they're embarrassed of the chains like why don't they measure so like they guessed and then that guess has to be conclusively overruled to change like measure it put put it down first of all that there's that there's not a change i think the ball wasn't hitting the hash mark and the the the chain was actually on the hash market how they knew it just missed it interesting all right this is a 500 billion dollar league put a freaking chip in the ball like it's one thing if the guy's knee is down but if we're really just measuring to see where the ball the furthest the ball got i think we could do that wow you're a put a chip in the ball guy well what are we doing the chains do you get along with the make the goalpost hires guys do you guys have meetings together or are you like rival gangs this is a big meeting it's also an aa meeting so yeah it's uh

Speaker 1 well, but bringing chains out there, like these guys are surveyors in the 1650s, so stupid. So, what do we have for the over-under? Can I guess that one? Oh, yeah, sure, that's easy.

Speaker 1 That's right there. I mean, not easy.
49 and a half. Uh,

Speaker 1 now I lost it. 49 and a half is exactly right.
You know what? I'll give you

Speaker 1 this week. I'll give you that win for that.
I got one. Yeah.
So, the two games today went crazy over. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, by over by 15, 20 points. Usually, there was a lot of dialogue about, well, Eagles, Washington.

Speaker 1 Each team will only get seven possessions. They'll be the slow game.
It was like, nope, that's wrong. And then KC Buffalo just kept moving the ball up and down the field.

Speaker 1 And last week, was it the over four and out? No, Chiefs, Texans went under. But we had Eagles Rams had 50, Bills, Ravens at 52, and the Lions Commanders had 76.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, you had like five out of the last six go over in cold weather, most of those games. So for a Super Bowl rematch,

Speaker 1 there's not a lot of those either. Pat's Giants was probably the most famous one of this century, but we've had some other ones.

Speaker 1 When we were growing up, Steelers, Cowboys was like an exciting rematch. I think I get the feeling people now don't like rematches as much, like the Casey Philly.
We've already done this.

Speaker 1 I wrote it in the Jalen Hurts thing. People like to complain.
Better than the Mahomes thing. Yeah, like Buffalo or Washington being in there would have been content fodder.
Right.

Speaker 1 But I think this is a really good game. It's great.
And first of all, Fox is delighted and the NFL is delighted, right? Because you got Hurts, Barkley, you got Mahomes, you got Taylor, everything.

Speaker 1 If the Rizzler shows up again, I don't know. But I think the casual fan probably is bummed about this matchup a little bit.
No question.

Speaker 1 Like, I think maybe Cowboys Chiefs would bum them out a little more. But other than that, I think this is right up there.

Speaker 1 My son, who follows football on TikTok and through YouTube shorts, he watched the most of the second half with me.

Speaker 1 And at one point, he turned to me and said, Dad, isn't every football season the same? Oh, no. Like the Bills come super close and then they lose.
The Chiefs make the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 They play somebody from the other team. It seems good.
Then the Chiefs win. And I was like, nope, you're wrong.
I'm going to lie to you right now. Nope.

Speaker 1 No. That's not true at all, son.

Speaker 1 Every season's way different.

Speaker 1 There's no chip in the ball. Of course it's the same.
Yeah, no. Jaden Daniels, you never know, son.

Speaker 1 Jaden Daniels last week in Detroit, he shocked the world, son. Yeah.

Speaker 1 McDermott's not going to blow this game. Well, you could just tell him that every year he could rely on a great AFC title match, right?

Speaker 1 Like seven of the last nine have been seven points or few, decided by seven points or fewer.

Speaker 1 My son, I always impress my son by predicting what plays are going to happen. I've been playing a lot of Madden lately.
I'm like, oh, empty back.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to, and half the time, that's how predictable some of these plays are, though.

Speaker 1 I think it's actually a bad sign if I'm on my couch and I can figure out where the ball's going half the time. Like they, the, uh, especially on those like swing screen passes, you can kind of see.

Speaker 1 Do you do that when you're watching the games? Do you try to predict what they're going to do? Sure. Yeah.
Yeah. Everyone wants to be like Romo in that regard.
I just can't.

Speaker 1 He doesn't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think he's.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't know because people are assholes and they're like, we don't want to hear what's about to happen. So stop circling the screen.
I think.

Speaker 1 I don't think he was told to stop, but I think he's just like, forget. The one I got wrong, I would have bet my life on.
It was before the Samuel touchdown when Buffalo tied it.

Speaker 1 It was like third and goal from the five. I would have bet my life that Allen was going to do the QB draw on that point.
Take off? Yeah. Yeah.
I just think it's been so obvious.

Speaker 1 They've been relying on it to the point that I think they even they realize they probably can't do it.

Speaker 1 Can I ask you when the shotgun from the one started? Well, listen, you know that's my, you know, my least favorite plays are fourth and goal or

Speaker 1 fourth and short, fourth and one, the QB not over the center. To me, you're like just throwing away an advantage.
Who started it? Did it start in college? Was it like Vince Young or like Thibault?

Speaker 1 Like, it wasn't that long ago. I mean, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't like in the 70s or 80s.
I really feel like it's

Speaker 1 this. It's the cousin of it's a Thai NBA game with under 10 seconds left.
And they do the ISO where then the guy does a step back three to win the game.

Speaker 1 But it was a tie game. It's like we just need a basket.
Doesn't need to be. You don't need to do your step back 27-footer.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Same thing for the shotgun snap. I don't understand it.
I don't know. I also don't understand why Mahomes doesn't sneak, which we always talk about.
Right.

Speaker 1 Because he got hurt that one time, like five years ago. Like, they can't sneak him anymore.
It's kind of funny. They can't.
He can't just lean down and burrow in and go for half a yard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Although I'll say that fourth and two, where they rushed up to the line after a timeout and he rolled right. It's like, wow, this guy's got it, man.
This is why it's so freaking hard to beat them.

Speaker 1 It's really impressive.

Speaker 1 We have two weeks to talk about the Super Bowl on your podcast, on my podcast. People are going to be in New Orleans, a whole bunch of things.
You have a new Cowboys coach.

Speaker 1 Oh, we can skip. We can go right to Parrot Corner, right? We'll have to talk about this.
You hired Marty Schottenheimer's son, Brian. They are related.
I had a feeling, yeah.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say Brian was a red-hot coaching candidate,

Speaker 1 which might be a good thing or a bad thing. He's the kind of guy I would have expected.
Oh, the Patriots have hired Brian Schottenheimer as the QB coach for Drake May. I'd be like, good hire, veteran.

Speaker 1 He's your head coach.

Speaker 1 I don't understand it. Why didn't you hire Cliff Kingsbury? At least he's like from Texas and he's young and you could make excuses for the first job.

Speaker 1 It's like maybe you didn't get along with Kyler Murray. I don't understand Brian Schottheimer at all.

Speaker 1 I don't understand it either. And nothing against the guy.
I'll give him a chance. I hope he does well.
But I really think Jerry Jones is fucking with us.

Speaker 1 I mean, the way he's even introduced him, he's like, ah, he was known as a career assistant. It's like, yes, yeah, great, Jerry.
That's what we're talking about. Career assistant.
That's what he said.

Speaker 1 That's how he,

Speaker 1 he's not just Brian anymore. He's the head coach.
I'm like, you just don't care about us. You don't care about this team.
This is just a joke.

Speaker 1 I kind of want to enter the fan trend, you know, the portal. I really want to get into the portal and pick a different.
Like, look at what Joe House did.

Speaker 1 No, look at the Washington fans this year. You got to

Speaker 1 stay with your, stay with the marriage. Joe House.

Speaker 1 Hate watched the Washington team until they switched to ownership. And now he gets a seat in the luxury box, courtesy of Washington.
I'm like, all right, I'll do that.

Speaker 1 Like, why can't I just watch from afar? This is disgusting. Brian Schottheimer, like you said, wasn't on anybody's list.

Speaker 1 It's like in fantasy, if you're doing like a snake draft and someone drafts like

Speaker 1 in the seventh round, drafts like Ray Ray McLeod, and you're like, all right, well, wait, hold on. I'm still looking down my list to cross.
Right, you're making the joke. Hold on.

Speaker 1 I got to get to page 12. Got to keep going.
Got to keep going. Like, there's something to be said about at least going through the motions and interviewing a Kellen Moore.

Speaker 1 Is Jones broke?

Speaker 1 Like, is it possible he doesn't have as much money anymore? Because

Speaker 1 he paid Mike McCarthy to the last minute of the contract and then just let it expire. And then he's obviously trying to save money with this coaching hire.

Speaker 1 Really weird. He's there are better people, there are better versions of this guy out there.
Maybe the landman thing, he I think he said that. He's a dumb book.
I'm an actor.

Speaker 1 I can fall back on that if the team's bad, and the team will be bad. So

Speaker 1 that's just

Speaker 1 it was an interesting one because the Jets interviewed, I think, 230 possibilities for their head coach, and I don't even think he cracked that list.

Speaker 1 And they were interviewing people that you didn't even know were still, yeah, you know, professionally working.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's our guy he's been in the building three years and they still have to interview him the fact the funny part is that they actually interviewed him like yeah i think you know what you're getting with him it's fine but

Speaker 1 uh i'm sorry does the interview start like brian what went wrong with your career

Speaker 1 why are you still here brian

Speaker 1 why did it peak five years ago uh conversely i'm on an absolute high with the patriots again Like this Vrabel, Vrabel's putting together this awesome coaching staff that's like the complete opposite of what we had last year.

Speaker 1 We have all these overqualified, like we have Doug Marone. Doug Marone, like almost beat the Pats

Speaker 1 in a round three playoff game five years ago. Like he was a good head coach.

Speaker 1 I'm really pumped. I really feel like I think the Washington thing has given all the Pats fans so much energy that it's like.
They did this in a year. They just, they hit the quarterback.

Speaker 1 They did all that. So now I'm going to be more into this NFL draft than I was last year.

Speaker 1 It's so funny how Washington has affected other teams near the bottom right and yeah the exact opposite effect on dallas because now we have jaden daniels in our division for anywhere from next year to the next 12 years right and uh and we celebrate he even took a win today i felt like i thought he was

Speaker 1 you know he he maybe a couple passes were a little low But for the most part, like his poise and the way he kind of kept them at that two-point conversion he had was great.

Speaker 1 I just thought that's so much fun watching. It's very cool.
It's very cool. Never freaks out.
Threw a couple bad passes, but it's to be expected. I mean, how many weeks are you going to do this for?

Speaker 1 Well, the cool thing for us, selfishly, just like for the Sundays where we're trying to watch all these games at once, we just want as many fun QBs as we can get.

Speaker 1 And now it seems like at least May and

Speaker 1 Daniels are two more to the list. Hopefully, Caleb can get there.

Speaker 1 You know, hopefully, Herbert will

Speaker 1 take some sort of leap. Hopefully, the new Jacksonville coach will resuscitate Lawrence.
Like, we might get into a situation where

Speaker 1 half of the teams have a fun QB. Wouldn't that be something? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What if J.J. McCarthy's good?

Speaker 1 Fun QBs and Dax coming back and bad coaches, shut up, or what's going to keep Gesalines going for another 17 years. Well, the one thing we know is we're always going to have bad owners and

Speaker 1 bad coaches. Yeah.
By the way, the Celtics,

Speaker 1 here's a little tidbit. The Celtics, they have, it was the first round of the buyers

Speaker 1 that they had to cut down all the prospective buyers. And like, I don't know, five people made the first round, four or five people.

Speaker 1 One of the people was the Eagles owner. Really? Jeffrey Laurie, who's apparently from Massachusetts.
So he was, he was,

Speaker 1 because there's been a couple like, hmm, I wonder who these guys are.

Speaker 1 And there was a couple I couldn't figure out, but that's, that's one that, uh,

Speaker 1 do you like that?

Speaker 1 I mean, that happened with your Red Sox, too, right? Isn't there like the whole so the precedent is Josh Harris owned the owned the Sixers and then bought Washington's football team.

Speaker 1 The Crockies owned the Nuggets and they own the Rams. So there's been a couple of NBA NFL things, but I mean, I always thought the Eagles were one of the best run football teams, right? So if

Speaker 1 he bought the Celtics, that's a decent outcome. There's a couple of decent outcomes in this.

Speaker 1 It's so funny how there's only like a few owners, there's only a few quarterbacks to get, and there's only a few coaches. And if you don't get them, you're kind of screwed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you're way more likely to have a mediocre to bad coach and a bad owner.

Speaker 1 All right, anything else before we hit parent corner?

Speaker 1 Did you hit the sad point of the season yet? Where

Speaker 1 you're just going to like wrestling tournaments on a Saturday and thinking about how you have no games? That is pretty sad.

Speaker 1 I told you, when you can't make a three-team teaser unless you use the over-under, that is a

Speaker 1 milestone.

Speaker 1 Official sadness day? Really bad. Really sad.

Speaker 1 And after next week, after we do our prop podcast, that'll be sad too.

Speaker 1 It's a step.

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Speaker 1 Parent Corner, you go first. All right, I'll go first.
Speaking of wrestling tournaments, so yeah, wrestling season's coming to a merciful end for me.

Speaker 1 And so that's my middle kid, and my youngest kid has traveled baseball. and rec league basketball.
So Saturday, I have to go from Jack League. Rec League basketball.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's all all over the basketball too. It's fun.
It is fun at that age. Yeah.
Running around. So Saturday, I have to go from Jack's tournament to Harrison's basketball game.

Speaker 1 I'm about, I'm going to catch just the end of his basketball game. So I walk in there.
It's the fourth quarter, and I see my wife's there.

Speaker 1 And the game, it's 18, 17, and she's talking to this woman seated next to her. And I have no idea who the woman is.
And I mentioned that. I was like, wow, the gym seems tense.

Speaker 1 And my wife's like, yeah, the refs aren't calling anything. These kids are really going at it.
And then she goes back to talking to this woman that I don't know. So,

Speaker 1 and then it's clear to me, I'm like, well, she must be guessing that the refs aren't calling anything because she's not watching a second of this. And so I'm starting to get annoyed.

Speaker 1 I'm like, it's 18, 17 with like two and a half minutes left. Like Harrison's taking shots and he's playing defense and everything.
But anyway, okay. So

Speaker 1 she's still talking to this woman. There's eight seconds left.
We're up by three. The opponent inbounds it, dribbles down the court, runs down the court.

Speaker 1 And just before he pulls up for the three, Harrison hard fouls him before he goes into shooting motion. And I was like, that's freaking smart.
That's like one of the smartest.

Speaker 1 The announcers must have loved it. The announcers loved it.
The gym did not love it. The referees didn't love it either.
And everyone's like, oh, oh, boy. But now there's like 0.6 on the clock.

Speaker 1 What was the hard foul? Was it like a shove or was it like a karate chove? Right, right shove to the chest, maybe a little elbow. Kids off balance.
This is great.

Speaker 1 Before, before, way before the shot, definitely before the shot, but he saw that the kid was about to pull up. And there's 0.6 on the clock.
And there's like no, it's not a shooting foul.

Speaker 1 And they're just going to inbound it. And the ref like mildly scolds Harrison, much like the refs did to

Speaker 1 play Philly today or already lost.

Speaker 1 Washington when they were jumping off the sides

Speaker 1 over and over. But he's like, game's over.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so that was it. And everyone's like, oh, man, oh, boy.
All right.

Speaker 1 So I was like, oh, geez i'm like i can't wait to high five them in in private later like like a yeah small fist pump yeah and then the kid who he shoved is like crying um after the game and i say and i'm like now i'm by my wife and this woman i'm like oh god look at this this kid's crying now and she turns to me and mouths

Speaker 1 that's that's this woman's son his name is bob i'll say bob uh because i don't want to say the real name but that's off by one letter she's like that's bob and this woman's son. I'm like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 Now she's looking at me. And so now I have to eat shit a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like I let like a minute pass and I go up to her after the game and I'm like, hey, I just want you to let you, you know, Bob played a great game. Okay.

Speaker 1 And she's giving me the look like, yeah, I fucking saw you walk in like with four minutes left in the game. Don't give me this crap.
You didn't even see him play. Oh, you made it worse.

Speaker 1 I made it worse. She didn't say that, but she gave me that look.
But anyway, talking to Harrison afterwards, I'm like, look, you know, you're not supposed to film.

Speaker 1 I was like, dad, we lost a game game like that last week. I wasn't going to let him get the shot off.

Speaker 1 That's my boy.

Speaker 1 He did hard-nosed stuff. I like it.
That's it. So I'm the jerk

Speaker 1 again.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 so 10 and 11, Harrison's 11. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are really emotional ages for boys' sports.

Speaker 1 There's a lot more crying than I was ever prepared for, like in the baseball and the basketball. Like kids really melt down.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It made made me think how funny it would be if, like, we did this as adults. Like, if it was like in the game today, like, Don Kikade drops the pass.
He's just sobbing on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 When did they grow out of that at age 12? We do. We do this as families.

Speaker 1 Well, what's interesting with basketball from 10 to 11, which makes it even more intense, at 11, they start, they start calling double dribble a lot and they start calling uh travel and they and you could play backcourt defense.

Speaker 1 So it gets pretty rough and stupid. Um, yeah, 10, 10 and and under you couldn't play defense until like crossed half court

Speaker 1 yeah because i i was visiting our cousin jimmy yesterday yeah uh in south bay and uh

Speaker 1 i called you to see if you were around and i just heard whistles in the background and i'm like oh i forgot on saturday you just drive around to different my son gets sporting events yeah that was yeah

Speaker 1 uh my parent corner so My wife went away for a couple of days with some friends.

Speaker 1 She still lives here. It's not a Michelle Obama thing.

Speaker 1 And I was left alone with

Speaker 1 me and Ben and the dog,

Speaker 1 Murph, who, if you've noticed, has not been really on Parent Corner

Speaker 1 all year because he's four, like he really has blossomed into a great dog, mature, no accidents. We have no gates in any of the rooms in the house, anything like that.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 my son had

Speaker 1 a friend over and and they made a cake. Oh.
And, uh, it was a female friend. And

Speaker 1 he left the, the, you know, there's the frosting. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Left,

Speaker 1 I think he left the frosting on the counter, but maybe not enough distance for Murph not to get it. So I come home on, on Thursday, and in the, in the TV room,

Speaker 1 there's just the remnants of something and it's like white. It almost looks like somebody spilled cocaine powder.
And I'm like, what is that? I'm smelling it. And it just smells like icing.

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 oh my God, Ben. So now I'm on Murph Watch.
Nothing's happening. Nothing's happening.

Speaker 1 And then Saturday morning,

Speaker 1 the apocalypse. I noticed him sneak away a couple of times.
Usually he's always where I am. Right.
If I'm home. And I noticed him sneak away a couple of times.
Like, that's what we're murph.

Speaker 1 Where are you going? He's like, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 It was a poopocalypse.

Speaker 1 My My office that I'm in right now, multiple shits. I could smell it.
Our living room, which we had a gate so that nobody could go in there that was a dog for months and months.

Speaker 1 And finally, like, we don't need the gate. It's ugly.
Murph never goes in there. Double shit on the rug in there.

Speaker 1 The, the, what was the other place? Oh, and then the TV room.

Speaker 1 Like, ruined the rug. Like, so like three different shits.

Speaker 1 And I had already closed the doors. So anyway, we have this machine that I would recommend to anybody who has a dog who likes to shit in their house.

Speaker 1 This water tank machine where you can scrub it and it picks the shit up. And I saved two of the rugs, but I haven't saved the third one.
And

Speaker 1 he ruined it. And so last night, I was like, so I didn't have a good night's sleep Friday night.
I'm like, last night, I'm like, hopefully this shit's done. I lock all the doors.

Speaker 1 He's locked in in our bedroom. There's no rug for him to pee on.
The bathroom doors close or poop on. Bathroom door is closed.
There's nothing he can get to.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, now I can just get a good night's sleep. We've got the pod tonight with the two games.
Like, I just want to be like rested and prepared.

Speaker 1 Fall asleep at one o'clock. Like 2.45, I just hear him circling around in the room, which means he has to go.
So bring him down. It's pouring rain.
Goes out. He does whatever.
Comes back.

Speaker 1 Towel him off.

Speaker 1 Hour and a half later, we repeat it again. 5.45.
Let's do it a third time. And now I'm up, and I've been up since 5:45.
So I don't know what I look like, but um, but three shits.

Speaker 1 And I haven't told my wife because she's away. And so, I guess this is if she hears this, this is how I was just gonna ask.
So, who will get in person?

Speaker 1 Well, did you reprimand your son or no?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's like, it wasn't my fault, he shouldn't have jumped on the counter. I'm like, no, it's 100% your fault.

Speaker 1 If you leave something on the counter, that like if you left poison on the counter and he ate it and he died is that his fault or yours he's a dog he has an iq of 20.

Speaker 1 so i've been mad at him all weekend right um

Speaker 1 and just like pay like i i've never picked up this many so it was like he had never in the house and then it was like a year and a half of saved up jesus just dropping him everywhere so anyway merf's back what the what they make a wedding cake what the how much ice did he i don't understand and then i was like do i have to take him to the vet today yeah and i'm like i'm not taking the the vet the games are about to come on if he dies he dies i was like rock it was like drago get some creed

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 but uh but it was just i like last and i actually felt bad for him because last night i just i was like i'm not even bringing it in just stay outside in for two hours and then i kind of forgot about him i was watching a movie for rewatchables and then i remember i heard him barking i came back down i brought him in and he was like so emotionally destroyed yeah you left me out there i didn't think you were gonna come get me.

Speaker 1 So anyway, it's been a roller coaster weekend and I've had, I think, three hours of sleep. Wow.
Can I say something? You said the lesson is don't get a dog. No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait on the dog or at least get that rug cleaner for sure. You said that the dogs have an IQ of 20.
This sounds like a smart dog. Like when you say like the dog left the room to do all this, he knew.

Speaker 1 He knew. Like that makes me think sometimes that dogs are smarter than humans.
Like he had the wherewithal to be crafty enough or embarrassed enough or whatever it was to do it in another room.

Speaker 1 cheating spouse, where it's like, I'll be right back. I just got to go to the bathroom.
And then they're on a phone call. I thought you said she went away with her friends.

Speaker 1 Oh, the dog. The dog.
The dog. Yeah.
Yeah. No, he's like, I'll be right back.
Just going to go get some water. And it's like, he's like, what rook I haven't had shit on yet.

Speaker 1 So anyway,

Speaker 1 I'm looking at our chat. What are they saying? People,

Speaker 1 Chris Shemmer says, I love how Bill still contends he's never done blow.

Speaker 1 I've never done cocaine.

Speaker 1 I swear on my kids. Yeah.
I'm not even positive I've been in the same room with it. I'm like very virginal with cocaine.
I'm not going to ask you if you've done it. I've not done it.
And

Speaker 1 I had the opportunity because I had gambling money once to loan my roommates who were dealing it money. It's like, you give me $150 and you can make $600 by the end of it.
I was like, I don't even,

Speaker 1 I don't know why I said no, but I started a good family. I wasn't even doing that.
No. Yeah.
So anyway, Murph ruined my weekend. Yeah.
And it looked like the two bets were going to ruin my weekend.

Speaker 1 And then the Chiefs came through, which brings us full circle. There we go.
You can always count on the Kansas City Chiefs to save your weekend, especially when they're the second team.

Speaker 1 I thought Romo was outstanding today. I want to mention that as well.
Really good. I really thought he did a great job.
Romo, we were in rough shape with him a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 It just didn't seem like he was putting in the work, but it feels like he is. Well, I like it because even last week, it was a little tiny bit wishy-washy.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh man, is he just not a cold weather announcer? But no, he came back.

Speaker 1 I think he did cocaine.

Speaker 1 That's it for

Speaker 1 Pericor.

Speaker 1 That's it. So, next time I see you will be next Sunday.
We're going to be doing our annual Super Bowl props podcast. I love that there's like 150 up already.
It's not even Monday. This is terrific.

Speaker 1 We always just have to wait until the second week. I have a quick NBA thing for you.

Speaker 1 You know we had that Pacers bet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell everybody what that is. Tell me.
No, we did. Well, it's Pacers over, Minnesota under, Sacramento under.
We did like four weeks ago.

Speaker 1 And now it seems like Sacramento might screw us because we need them to be under 42 inch.

Speaker 1 I think the Pacers

Speaker 1 are about to make a little run here.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking about from a gambling standpoint next couple weeks. I like what I'm, they have all their guys back.
I just think there's something interesting about them that I've been monitoring.

Speaker 1 What did we get? We have all the teams in each conference. That's, and I think Golden State's on the flip side.

Speaker 1 I think, did you see the stat Golden State is one in 20 after the third quarter when they don't have a lead? Like, to me, Golden State, if they don't make a trade, like this is this season's a punt.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What did we get the Pacers at? Wednesday.
Oh, we're going to hit that one. We got it at like

Speaker 1 41 and a half. Okay, so it's 46 and a half, but you wouldn't double back on it, would you? That's too much.
Oh, for regular season wins? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's their record?

Speaker 1 That doesn't matter. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Their record.
So they are

Speaker 1 25 and 20.

Speaker 1 So 47, they'd have to go 22.

Speaker 1 22 and 15. 22 and 15.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's pretty good. That seems like it comes out to last week.
Yeah. Yeah, at least.
Well, we already have that. Yeah.
Yeah. I was just wondering.

Speaker 1 I mean, so what are you you talking about how you play them at this point? What, what more? 46 and a half is high. So we, so we definitely hit that one.
Golden State is 41 and a half now.

Speaker 1 And unless they do a desperation trade, that one might be going under.

Speaker 1 The only other one

Speaker 1 that I think

Speaker 1 I can't believe I'm saying this, but the Lakers look good in that Celtic game. I know.
And then they look good against the Warriors.

Speaker 1 And I'm starting to wonder if maybe they found a little something because there's a physicality to them. I wrote them off.
I thought they should have traded Anthony Davis and it's only two games.

Speaker 1 I'm not zigzagging, but I'm just watching them because I saw a team in that Boston game in person that

Speaker 1 just seemed like they were figuring out an identity that I didn't think they had. And then they did the same thing against Golden State.
This was a tough

Speaker 1 physical team. Yeah, like they, they, three of the last four, the next four games, or they're in that four-game run that was going to be tough.
And I bet them to make the play-in.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, they're definitely going to get in the play-in because you could do that on FanDuel. I'm like, now they're minus 225.
Do you think they could actually make it?

Speaker 1 Well, now they're minus 225 to make the, to make the playoffs. So go, boy.
Yeah, they're seven games over 500. Right.
And I wasn't even considering them potentially being good until

Speaker 1 those last two games because they're defending way better than they did. They have, they, they have enough shooters now.
Gabe Vincent's giving them something

Speaker 1 that he was not giving earlier in the season. So it's, I, I don't want to put plant a flag on it yet, but I'm I might have been wrong about them.

Speaker 1 Well, I thought for sure once they let Bronny go to the G League, I'm like, that's a mistake. They're going to regret sending that generational talent somewhere else.
And

Speaker 1 who knows if he even comes back if they want him. No, Bronny's the best thing that happens to go into Laker games now because people want to they want to see him, but usually the game's over.
Right.

Speaker 1 So we I took Hench to the Laker game. We got out of there.
We were out of the garage in like

Speaker 1 30 seconds because every it was the easiest time to yeah, everyone's up 20. Usually people are fleeing, but everybody kind of wanted to stick around.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Everyone just wanted Hench to leave, I think.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was in rare form.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the only other one is Cleveland. I was thinking about this for next year, that team that starts out super hot.
Yeah, they're ridiculous.

Speaker 1 And then around the 40-game mark, they're huge favorites in every game, but they relax a little bit and they lose a couple. And I want to remember that for next year.

Speaker 1 Atkinson is minus 470 for coach of the year. What would they have to, what kind of, what kind of claps would they have to have for him not to win it at this point?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 What's crazy is the Thunder coach is 30 to 1, and that guy's doing an amazing job. He lost Holmgren for the whole season, basically.
Yeah. But he won line line every year, though, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm all for the guys that get votes, but I think that's,

Speaker 1 I don't think they give it two years in a row too much. Joker at plus 230 for MVP on FanDuel seems like

Speaker 1 really good odds. As you know, I'm not a left.
team. All right.
You promised me you get the vote. You give the vote.
No, but I'll tell you: here's why. Because,

Speaker 1 first of all, it's only game 45. Second of all, there's really only two candidates right now.
But Denver's a four-seed now.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't win the MVP unless it's either a shitty year or you're like a top three team.

Speaker 1 They're probably going to be a top three team in the West, which puts him in play and he's having this historic offensive season. It's at least an argument.

Speaker 1 So that's the hedge on Shea because I have SGA because of you, um your house and rasillo because i got like plus 350 now he's minus 350. oh when we were we were telling people early that

Speaker 1 yeah if you're just talking value yeah i it's a two-person race

Speaker 1 i would be really surprised tata oh man i mean yannis is 120.

Speaker 1 yeah everybody's triple figures anybody else

Speaker 1 Bizarre. No, it's those two.
So if you wanted to hedge it, I would hedge it with Jokic.

Speaker 1 The rookie of the year is funny because all of a sudden wear of Miami became the favorite because he was good for two weeks. Like that's how bad.

Speaker 1 I still think Castle plus 310 is probably cool. I have Saar from the beginning of that year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then most improved.
That one always changes right around like mid-February. All of a sudden, people get excited.
Same for Defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 1 I think six man's a little more open than Pritchard being minus 170 because he hasn't been

Speaker 1 like just looking at those odds. Ahmed Thompson, who's been incredible, especially lately, he's eight to one.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 he's having a, I think, a more impactful year than Pritchard is. Well, you can argue Thompson's the best rocket right now.
I mean, remember, Westbrook was a big favorite?

Speaker 1 Not Westbrook. Who did they make?

Speaker 1 Was it Westbrook with six-man? Did that make sense? Like a few years ago? Then

Speaker 1 it became a starter. And then the spirited gods went away.
So that's what you have to avoid. Like, which one of those top four can be getting the starting lineup?

Speaker 1 Because what do you got to put?

Speaker 1 What do I have? Against all odds, a couple of times this week. Through the ringer with Tate Frazier.
Cousin Sal's winning weekend at the end of the week.

Speaker 1 And Frontier Wireless Blows, and their customer service reps are fucking liars. That's it.
Bye. See you next week.

Speaker 1 Are you doing content with Tate this week? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you want me to ask him?

Speaker 1 Is he focused yet on Charlotte trading for Curry?

Speaker 1 That was always his dream scenario. Ooh, interesting.
I don't know. He's all I don't think Golden State's ever trading Curry, but

Speaker 1 Tate's dream was Golden State was going to become mediocre. And at some point, the move was just to cash in Curry before during the last stretch of his career.
What does that look like?

Speaker 1 He goes back to Charlotte. First round.
I think he grew up there. The number one? No, I know, but what do they have to give up?

Speaker 1 I think Lamello's in it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Two guys. I don't know who

Speaker 1 never want to play. That's what a great trade.

Speaker 1 Anyway, ask Tate, see what he thinks. All right, I will.
All right. Thanks to Kyle and Gahal.
Thanks to Sarudi, those not here.

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And then I got a new rewatchables coming tomorrow. So that's the spot.
Sal, congrats on the guest alliance title again. Good job by you.
Good job by you, buddy.

Speaker 1 And good job by the Chiefs. Thanks, everybody.

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