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First, our friends over the moon. I was going to come on dressed as Grimace or Jerry Seinfeld, but those costumes are in the cleaners, but I love it, man.
I'm so happy. I don't care that everyone hates us now.
I don't. It makes it better.
It really does. Who hates you? Who started the hating thing? What do you mean? Albert Pujols 2.0.
Ticket prices are going to be affordable now. Good luck.
Enjoy paying him $51 million at age 41. Listen, I don't care.
Were those texts that Hench sent you? That was the whole Kevin Hench. I love it.
I'm sorry your Red Sox lost out. I love beating the Yankees.
That's the best part is beating the, we beat, we beat them. They, they were outbid.
They bid seven 60 for 16 and we beat them. And, uh, I know you have to go on the field and win and all that stuff, but we never beat them at anything.
We're little brother, like forever. So you bid seven 60 for 15, seven, seven 65 for 15.
The Yankees were at 760 for 16. 765.
Was that what it was? 765 for 15.

The Yankees were at 760 for 16.

And then Boris is like,

do you want to drop the 16th year

and just go 15?

And the Yankees were like,

that's too rich for our blood.

That's crazy.

We can't do that.

That was it.

That was it.

Would you get over like 600 million?

At what point?

This is like funny money at this point. It is kind of like losing a house, a bid on a house for like $120 or something.
Really at that point, because everyone's like, yeah, 41 years old. Like, sure, I'll get 51 million at 41.
He'll be the lowest paid player at that point. But I just love beating the Yankees, man.
It's like little, it's like Casey Affleck dating Margot Robbie saying, take that, big brother, bring that to TMZ. This is great.
This is the best. Casey Affleck.
You're like the little brother? We're the little brother. You're like the freaking cousin.
I am the cousin, but thank you. Well, you're literally the cousin.
I don't even know if you're the brother. You haven't won in 38 years.
Oh, stop it. Stop it.
It's great. We won tonight.
We won tonight. We beat the Yankees.
That's all I care about. I was delighted because this really ruins the Yankees.
Yeah. There's no plan B.
This was the guy. They have this short window with Judge and Cole.
And this was the guy they were grooming to be like the next major guy. And now what do you do if you're the Yankees? Plus you lose them to the Mets, the team that

for the last, what, really since like the mid nineties, you've been kind of kicking their butt.

The Mets had a couple of little tiny runs here and there, but for the most part, it just felt

like the Yankees were in the driver's seat and now it doesn't. Now you just have this rich owner

who doesn't care. Yeah.
He's just like It's just like, here's money. How much? Oh, yeah.
800 million? Ah, I'm still worth $88 billion. What do I care? It's beautiful.
It really is. And he left the Yankees.
He played for the Yankees. Let's not forget.
Right? He left. It's sort of like, remember that girl, another Seinfeld reference, dated Newman, and Jerry couldn't figure out why he broke up with her? It's like, this is the same thing.
Juan Soto didn't care about playing for the Yankees anymore. How many Mets-Yankees crossovers have there been? Just for players? Yeah.
Like for stars. It's pretty rare, right? Oh, for stars, yeah.
Well, I mean, it's gone Mets to the Yankees. Yeah, Strawberry and Gooden were the two big ones.
Yeah, yeah. We haven't really.
I mean, we had Severino. There haven't been too many the other way.
We'll take it. So do you feel like you're the 1A in New York now? Like, for real? This is it.
Yeah, this is it. Our guy John Jastrzemski is disconsolate.
I think he knew it was coming. Because, again, they had all their eggs in this basket.
You asked how I felt as a Red Sox fan. I never thought the Red Sox were going to be in this.
The Red Sox are the person that just goes to a bar and pretends they talk to girls all night. And it's like, I got eight numbers.
I'm going to text a bunch of girls when I get home. It's like, yeah, you're going home alone.
That's the Red Sox. But also, are there going to be any girls available for them in the next five years? It's kind of such a bad...
The Red Sox are just riding on the coattails of the four World Series they won because they know people like me just wanted to see one before they died and we won four. And they've taken advantage of that for the entire 2020s.
I think the thing with Soto, just paying a guy like that once they get 36, 37 and up, you just kind of know where it's going to go. So you're really spending all the money in the first 10 years of the contract.
Then you have your fingers crossed for the last five, right? Right. It's not like he's like Mookie Betts where he's like this amazing athlete where he's going to be 38 and he'll still be able to play second base and be some sort of impactful player.
Your guys, it'll probably move more toward the Pujo Stanton. He'll get bigger, he'll get stiffer.
Yeah. It's dumb.
Ohtani, he's not Ohtani, but they compared it to Ohtani, right? So this deal had to be based on Ohtani, which is dumb. He's going to be a DH, you know, if not this year, in a few years.
So yeah, we'll take it. We stole him from the Yankees.
That's all that matters. So what are the biggest free agent signings of your lifetime? Because I'm old enough to remember, and you are too, when they got George Foster from the Reds.
And it was a huge deal. It was one of the big free agent signings in the seventies.
And he was awesome on the Reds. He was basically like National League Jim Rice.
And then he went to the Mets and it just did not go well. Nothing.
I remember the program, the two Georges, George Foster and the manager, George Bamberger and it was Foster and Kingman and they were all, they were both hit and miss back and forth but like I don't even know. Like I've gotten...
Bobby Bonilla was a big one. Bonilla was big.
Piazza obviously. You're still paying that one.
Piazza. Yeah, we're still paying.
Yeah. I can't even think.
I was like, I got excited about Saberhagen and Viola and stuff like that. But we'll take it, man.
We'll take it. It's pretty cool to have a guy hitting.
What is he? He's going to be 26 next year? Mm-hmm. You just get this guy.
You could be in your 70s, so he'll still be on the team. Yeah about it that way that's why I've been thinking about Drake May I'm like Drake May is going to take me to my 70s with a smile on my face I feel I'm not going to live that long and this is like me buying a turtle you know turtles last like 90 years it's like alright turtle you're going to be on your own in a few years but I'll enjoy you in the meantime what What is the reaction with all the Mets fan texts?

Is it like euphoria or is it like cautious euphoria? No, I think right now it's euphoria.

Honestly, the Yankee part of it is just so big. Our buddy Gus is on there and he had a really

funny thing he said. I'm going to read it about his dad.
He said, my dad says the four best words in English language are Mets win, Yankees lose. That's true.
I don't even know if that's English. It is.
The only two teams I hate are the Yankees and the Lakers. And it's been a rough weekend for both of them.
The LeBron trade rumors, the whispers have started. And they look like they're winning tonight against four of them.
But I'm always happy when those two teams aren't doing well.

Well, when you're in your 70s,

I think the Chiefs will still be winning stupid games.

Mahomes will be 41.

Collinsworth will have a walker,

and they'll just be like,

Mike, that Fugo hit both uprights in the crossbar,

and somehow went through back.

I can't believe it.

How many uprights do they have in Arrowhead? Come on, Mike. I just want to kiss Patrick Mahomes' neck.
That's all. I love all these quarterbacks.
I don't know. Why do we even get – when it boinked off and then you wait to see if it falls in the end zone, it's in.
What do we even get excited about? Well, the field goal the guy made earlier in the game from like 49 or 50, it went through and then ricocheted backwards. So it kind of landed in the end zone, which I hadn't seen very often either.
That guy did not inspire a lot of confidence. I think the mascot was even fooled.
Yeah. There were multiple chances to hedge all the Chiefs parlays and teasers you had if you had them.
I know I had a few. Halftime, 13-0, perfect time.
Because as Collinsworth was saying during that game, the Chargers were weirdly in it. They had missed a big, long pass for a touchdown.
It felt like it was pretty toe-to-toe. The score wasn't reflective.
Get to the third quarter, Chargers scored twice in a row. They have the lead and it's the perfect time for the hedge.
And I looked at it and it was Chargers, I think, plus two and a half. So it was basically like if the Chiefs win by a field goal, you could still win this Chargers bet.
And I was just like, you know, the Chiefs win this every time. Why am I hedging with it? Why am I nervous that the Chiefs, this will be the time they blow it.
I'm just going to ride the Chiefs. And that turned out to be the move.
Do you think they, in the beginning of the year, got together and Andy Reid's like, this is boring, guys. Let's try this.
31. 31's a number.
Let's never score 31 points. I think they've scored 30 twice.
And let's see if we can win all the games or all but one of the games. Because, I mean, really, that third and seven play, they really are challenging themselves, right? If they don't get a first down, they're kicking a field goal, and then the Chargers can go right down.
And he made it look so easy. And then just dumping it off to Kelsey makes the defender miss.
And then hitting the goalposts is like your uncle playing you in pool and saying, I'm going to call a bank shot on every ball. They're just screwing with you the whole time.
They never look comfortable. They have no explosive plays whatsoever anymore.
And when they try to run one, he'll miss the guy by like 10 yards. Or it'll be like his arm will get hit as he's throwing it.
it'll be like that Hopkins play where Hopkins catches it and he gets stripped they just have they have nothing um they'll run even like this last drive when it seemed like they would have momentum and then they'll just run the line the guy will fall down you you never feel comfortable play to play I was watching my homes today like trying to remember we like hey are you gonna do my home? I can barely remember what it looks like. And then he had two of them on the final drive.
But we just watched Josh Allen, the fucking Superman cape on in the earlier game. And it was, I didn't want to go there mentally because I know it's reactive and it's, but I was thinking like, shit, the way Josh Allen played versus the way I'm watching Mahomes play now, it just seems like Allen's better this season.
I'm not saying he's better career. I'm not saying he's past him.
But just this season, it seems like he's better. And then Mahomes did like five things.
And he's like, no, no, I'm still here. Let me ask you this.
You start a team, is it Josh Allen or Mahomes? And I guess I'm asking, are Mahomes' best years behind them, right? Because that's a different way of asking it. And I'm not sure.
I think maybe he has a clip. You can't say he's a better player because Mahomes has all the hardware.
But if you're starting a team, what are you doing? What are you? You setting up a computer? No, I have two iPads going because I knew you were going to ask me this. Oh, all right.
So as always, I'm going to bring a Boston team into this because, you know, there's so many Chiefs-Pats parallels. Bruins, I hope.
And I was trying to remember if Brady had hit a point where it was like, man, what's going on? And it happened. It was way later in his crib.
It was the 2013 Pats who finished 12-4, and it was a season very similar to this this chief season. But Brady that year was only 25 touchdowns,

11 interceptions, threw for 43, 43 yards.

The whole year, it was the year Gronk was hurt.

Hernandez was gone.

The two receivers were Edelman and Amendola.

The two running backs were Stefan Ridley

and LeGarrette Bount.

They just didn't have anybody.

And it led to this whole Brady conversation of what is is this manning was lighting it up for denver it's like what is brady is it over what do we need to find think about the future and it was just his supporting cast wasn't very good and i think that's the case with the homes this year like who are his good offensive weapons kelsey was gone in that game for two. I forgot he was in the game.
Hopkins is okay. Pacheco's okay.
Worthy's okay. They just, they don't have a single guy.
You watch these other teams, you know, like you watch that Bills-Rams game, like Nakua and Cooper Cup and Shakir. Like, all those guys are way better than anyone the Chiefs have.
But what about what you...

All right, so compare him to Josh Allen.

You think he's got a ton of great supporting cast?

Those names are interchangeable, I think, with the Shakirs.

I think his running backs are better.

Shakir, he's got a...

I'd rather have a Mario Cooper than Hopkins.

Yeah.

Tight ends, maybe Kelsey in a big game. But when Kinkade's out there, I'm not sure it's that much of a drop-off.
Yeah, I guess for what you're saying, the difference is Allen has these holy shit, you know, he had five of them in the game today. And Mahomes, the holy shit plays seem to be these third and sevens that bring drives, keep a drive going versus like the Allen type of play.
It's like, oh my God, he just ran for 38 yards. Yeah.
We get excited for Kelsey lumbering for eight yards after, you know, on third and seven. Right.
Whereas Allen is just zipping it in between two defenders and forget about what he does with his legs. It's insane.
He sent a fantasy record, right? 58 points or something. Oh yeah.
He was lun yeah. I was in that guillotine league I'm in.
We needed Allen to have a bad game. As soon as the Rams took a big lead, we were like, this is going to go terribly.
And then he had an awesome game. I think the other difference with them, at least this season, is Mahomes has just taken more hits.
They had that... Collinsworth is pointing out the whole game.
They had that stat at one point. He'd been back to pass 40 times.
He got hit 16. It just seems like physically there's a toll he's taking whereas Allen just seems superhuman at all times.
Even if he's getting hit a couple times in a game, I still feel like he's fine. It still feels like he's bigger than almost everyone he's playing against.
Mahomes had a couple ones today. Herbert did too.
I thought that was a really, really physical, playoff-y kind of game. I thought the Chargers were the big winner of the game, even though they lost.
Like that game made me think that team in January, I actually think could go toe-to-toe with some AFC teams. That defense is excellent, I think, for most of the games they play.
And you're right, they're physical. And like Collinsworth said it, when they were down 6-0, Harbaugh was like, I don't want to say Harbaugh's kind of got him where he wants, but this is the kind of game you want to play.
Anytime the Chiefs aren't scoring 40, which seems like forever now, you're in good shape. And they didn't have Dobbins, and they didn't have McConkie.
And I thought when McConkie got scratched, which I didn't even know when we did like million dollar picks on Thursday, figured McConkie was going to play. They scratched him.
And after watching what we watched from Quentin Johnston this season, Palmer's been hit or miss. It's like, how are they going to move the ball? They basically got two drives where they just bully balled the Chiefs down the field, which was unusual.
Then the Chiefs kind of figured out.

We got to figure something out.

He's going to try to play.

That's a new thing.

Like, yeah, he's going to try to play.

It's like when your kid the night before school is like,

I'm not feeling well, but I'm going to try to go to school.

It's like, no, that's a no.

No way.

Just email the teacher.

You're not doing it.

Ten-year-old staying home.

We got him all day.

Chiefs now 12-1. They're not doing it.
10-year-old staying home. We got him all day.
Chiefs now 12-1.

They clinched their division.

It looks like it's probably the one seed for them now.

There's only four games left.

The Steelers, I would say, maybe have a chance

because they play them. But don't the Chiefs and Steelers play on Christmas say, maybe have a chance because they play them.

But don't the Chiefs and Steelers play on Christmas?

They play on Christmas, and that's a Wednesday, right?

Yeah.

Why?

Really?

It's going to be three days rest for everybody?

They play on a Saturday and then a Wednesday.

Oh, Saturday and Wednesday.

Okay.

So you would say maybe the Steelers, if they beat them

and then the Chiefs lost one more and the Steelers ran the slate, but I'm not seeing it. It feels like Casey locked up the one seed.
Come on. Clanking it off the post.
Ridiculous team. So then that two seed goes between Buffalo and Pittsburgh, who are both 10-3.
And I'm going to say this, Sal. Yeah.

I officially think Pittsburgh's the best team in the AFC.

Come on.

You can't after a Jameis game.

You can't claim that.

I think they're the best team.

I feel the safest about them if you start nitpicking all these AFC teams.

Really?

I feel the most comfortable with Pittsburgh.

Great defense. I think their defense can make plays,

create turnovers, create pressure.

They can cover.

I just like them.

They can run the ball.

They always seem to get like two or three

30 to 40 yard plays per game

or a pass interference or something.

They have unbelievable special teams.

They have the best field goal kicker in the conference.

They're going to have home court,

home field advantage for at least the first two rounds.

And they have an awesome coach.

And I just think,

I think right now,

and I'll feel free to change my mind in two weeks,

but right now I feel the best about them.

All they have seat teams,

Buffalo's defense.

You saw today,

this chiefs team can't get to 20 points.

I think if the Steelers played the chiefs right now is what we're watching from the Chiefs and that the Steelers would beat them. I think it's unfair to judge the Bills' defense.
I think that was going to happen. And by the way, I had my best bet on the Ringer pregame show was the Rams over two and a half touchdowns.
I didn't think they scored six. I was waiting for you to bring this up.
I didn't think they scored six, but the point of this is, of course, I'm red hot and I'm wiping the mat with those other guys. I'm red hot too.
We're two red hot guys. I love that we're red hot, but I saw it come in the Bills defense flying east to west.
It was going to have to let up eventually, right? And it makes sense. It was very soft.
It was a very soft zone that Stafford threw against for three hours.

But I don't want to judge that. Just like I'm not going to judge how great the Steelers defense was against Jameis.
I know they're very good in general. I'm judging the three months.
I'm just been really impressed by... I thought they should have won the Colts game.
Right? That Browns Thursday game. They had the lead with three minutes left.
And, you know, that was stupid. I just think they've been the most impressively consistent

team in the AFC this year.

With that said, I'd have to take

a big gulp before I went against Mahomes in a

playoff game, especially if it was in

Kansas City.

But, I don't know.

Pittsburgh, week after week, people keep looking

for reasons not to, even today,

Pickens got scratched. It's like, oh my god, the blind move toward Cleveland.
You know, and it's like, they're fine. They're going to make plays.
They have 74 points fewer than the Bills, and they've allowed 30 points less. So that's the team that would scare me if I was a stealer.
It's like, I don't know, if you're going to Buffalo, that's a mess. I think it's rock, paper, scissors.
Because the Chiefs can't get explosive plays. So if they played Buffalo, that's actually bad if you're the Chiefs, right? Because the way to beat the Chiefs is to basically move the ball.
I think the Steelers could get explosive plays on the Bills. I think they would beat the Bills.
But I think the Bills, the way they're set up right now, would probably beat the Chiefs. And then maybe the Chiefs would beat the Steelers because it would be an 18 to 16 type game, which they specialize in.
Maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's our answer.
Maybe that's it. One thing the Bills showed me is that they can come back.
I think we figured that anyway, but that was a game that they really could have just walked off and be like, all right, we'll lose this by 21. But they were in it till the very end.
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Well, let's switch topics to that because that was the game of the season so far. I had some clinching questions.
So the first clinching question was, did Bill's Rams clinch game of the season so far? Yeah, it had my attention the whole time. I think so.
What other candidates? I'm trying to think what else. There were some good ones over the first third.
Even the week one, that Baltimore KC game was really good. There's been some good ones.
Cowboys, Giants, Thanksgiving was the highest rated. Was it the best? I don't know.
I didn't have that one. There's been a couple good Lions games.
Lions-Packers on Thursday was good. What was cool about this one was the Rams took that big lead and it was not a turn off the channel game.
It was like, Josh will get this back. Josh will bring them back into this.
They had 54 plays and scored 42 points. What was that stat Hench said us? They scored six touchdowns with zero turnovers.
The first team, 255 to lose. It's never been done.
Yeah, exactly. 265, I think it was.
Yeah. They got a pretty good crowd, too.
It was good. It was fun all around.
I don't know that, switch it to the Rams for a second. I don't think, is this too much to say? I don't know if I've ever seen a receiver like Puka Nakua.
As a possession receiver, he's phenomenal. And you can miss by three or four yards, and he's going to catch it.
And he's going to protect himself and all that good stuff. And they use him as a running back.
And he's one of the best blackhand receivers in the league. Right.
And just seems like he can get up whenever he wants. He's kind of like the 2.0 version of Debo.
Like whatever we thought Debo was, he's a better version of it. He's finally healthy and he's awesome.
More remarkable catches. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. It seems like now that those two guys are healthy, anytime he had like third and seven, third and nine, third and five, and they put those two guys on the same side and you didn't know if they were going to run little pick plays for each other or what.
It just felt like one of them was getting open. Absolutely.
Yeah. Like I said, it was a soft zone and everything else, but he's great.
Rams had 457 yards on nine drives. They were 11 for 15 on third down.
And it seemed like if the Bills had scored fast enough with the three timeouts, somehow they had a chance to possibly steal the game, leading to one of the weirdest calls of the season where they do QB sneak on first down. They don't get it, and they call timeout, which immediately made it impossible for them to just kick off and get the stops, which Brady, who was fantastic today for him, I thought he was really good.
But Brady called it out even before the first down. He's like, you don't want a QB sneak here because if you don't get it, then you're either going to burn too much clock or use the timeout.
He spelled out everything that was about to happen that it happened. If you use one timeout in that situation, you might as well use all three

because then you're just relying on getting

the onside kick versus

okay, if we don't get the onside kick, we could

stop the clock three times. I didn't understand

that at all. They would have been better off sneaking

up to the line of scrimmage and running a second down

play and letting the clock go to 45.

That was where it was a miracle they had three timeouts

in the first place and that was the hard part.

Then they blew it.

The play probably has to be like a rollout

where he's either going to run it or

Thank you. So that was where it was a miracle they had three timeouts in the first place.
And that was the hard part. Then they blew it.
Right. Yeah, the play probably has to be like a rollout where he's either going to run it or pass quick or throw it out of bounds or like a shotgun quick pass like the Malcolm Butler play or something like that.
But the thing you can't do is the QB sneak and then you can't then also call a timeout. No.
I'm always amazed that these coaches blow the basic video game stuff.

This is a pretty basic 1.0 video game thing.

I like math and I was good in math,

but I do think it is the video games. But for God's sakes, you should be able...

That was easy to me.

That jumped out right away.

How does McDermott not see that?

Do you think because of the YouTube multi-view and some of this other stuff and we're just watching all these games and we're seeing so many situations, we're getting in our 10,000 hours for game management now? I feel like I'm at the peak of my powers. Yeah, sure.
I watch these games. I'm just like, oh yeah, clearly you should never keep a sneak here.
But maybe when you're on the field and it's going so fast and there's 90 things you're worrying about, sometimes you lose a sense of just what the most normal thing to do would be. Maybe.
Maybe not sneak it there. I don't know.
But also, are they not watching enough situational things? I feel like we're putting ourselves on a pedestal here. But the guys that are getting to the facility at 4.30 in the morning, they're just watching tape of the opponent and not worried about what's going to happen at the end of the games and how they should use their timeouts and timing and stuff.
I don't think a lot of this stuff is that hard. It's like if you have the three timeouts and there's under two minutes left and it's a two-score game and you can somehow score a touchdown and keep your three time timeouts that's the goal.
You want to be able to kick off and try to get a stop and hopefully get the ball back for a field goal would be the ideal which they almost pulled off. I have friends that text me barely got through junior college and know the ins and outs of all these.
It's like this can't be hard stuff. Ultimately for the Bills not a either going to be the two-seeded or the three-seeded.
They've already clinched the AFC East a week ago. There's no chance they could follow the four-seeded.
They weren't going to catch the Chiefs probably anyway. And Josh, I think, probably clinched the MVP once and for all today.
Yeah, I can see odds. Let's see.
It was the rare loss that helped clinch somebody. Meanwhile, Lamar didn't even play.

I don't even know who else would be in the mix.

Minus 450 for Allen.

Well, Saquon was second last week, but he's gone up to plus 550.

That's not happening.

Sorry, Saquon.

Tom Brady was good.

And I think, you know, there are only three games. that I just, I put the three on the one TV together because I wanted to watch basketball.
Sorry. And I, I gave Brady the audio and I really listened like for the three hours and he's changed a couple of things that I thought were really important.
Like he's, he's definitely, it feels like you're hanging out with him a little bit more. Yeah.
He's reacting to what he's seeing. He's not doing like, oh, I have prep on this situation.
Now I'm going to do my prep. Doesn't feel like he's overproduced, but what we got, and I don't know if it was a case of like, we just had two awesome quarterbacks.
And when it's awesome quarterbacks, he can put himself in the mind of the quarterback, but he was pointing out like, oh, here's what... And Burkhart was doing a good job of saying, hey, when they're using all those words at the line, what does that mean? And then Brady's like, well, here's what that means.
And that's like, that's exactly what I want from him. And then he was explaining like how to, how they're using the receivers, how they're exploiting certain things.
The game management stuff, he was all over. I thought he was excellent.
I thought it helped that he had his Hubie Brown moment. He just went hoarse.
He went hoarse a little bit. And it felt like he was in the game.
All that stuff you said he did the previous weeks. No, he was in the game and he was liking it and he was doing it.
He was inside of it. Nakua had that incredible catch when he kept his feet in.
And Brady got so excited, it got me excited.

Because I'm like, this guy's the best quarterback ever.

If he's that excited about that catch, that must have been an awesome catch.

So anyway, I think the Brady thing, it started out as rocky as you would have thought.

I thought it was getting worse, like around week seven, week eight, week nine,

which we talked about on the pod.

And Thanksgiving was a little better.

And I thought today was really encouraging.

I really feel like he's getting the hang of it. Yeah.
All he needs is the best game of the year every week. I'm going to go.

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I'm going to go. I'm going really encouraging.
I really feel like he's getting the hang of it. Yeah.
All he needs is the best game of the year every week. And he'll be fine.
That's it. If he had Cooper Rush against Drew Locke, I wonder if he would have been that great.
Did the NFC West clinch division you've changed your mind on the most status today? Because we've had yet another shift at the top. Seattle's now 8-5 in the driver's seat, and they were dead two weeks ago.
Yeah, I think the good news is we're not going to change our minds again, right? We've changed it nine times. We'll be good for December.
And they're only minus 135 because I guess the Rams are right there at plus 160. But the Cardinals have fallen off at 13-1 now.
I'm seeing on Fanville. They're done.
They lost to Seattle twice, and they're two back. It's a wrap.
That's it. So it's just the Rams and Seattle for the division.
And I think Seattle showed some toughness. That's one of the narratives.
I feel like we drive some of these narratives. Whatever our top three or four narratives are going into Monday, we should scrap all of them and start over.
One of them was going to be like, oh, without Kenneth Walker, they're not going to be as tough as Arizona. Yeah, they were much tougher on both sides of the ball.
Yeah, they ran the ball. They're two running backs that weren't Kenneth Walker, 29 for 172.
Gino, no turnovers. And they got the middle of their defensive line back.
My big fear with them is that they couldn't block, but they actually seemed like they blocked a little bit better today. We have a lot of future stuff with Seattle.
We do. That was, I think, the one I had.
I had division bets with them. I had over bets with them.
Make the playoff bets. all kinds of things that look pretty bleak a couple

weeks ago.

Now we look at them.

I actually think they might be good.

I don't know if they're on the Detroit, Green Bay, maybe even Minnesota, Philly level.

They're probably fifth in that group, but they have a bunch of good players on both

sides of the ball.

When Gino's not making any mistakes, you watch them and you go, all right, I get this. So I think they're going to be their three seed.
Right now they would be playing Green Bay in the 3-6. I like it.
Two solid teams. It's a nice game.
Really good first round matchup. I do think there's a team out there that, not

that we owe an apology for, but

it's time we give them the recognition.

You mentioned it briefly, the Vikings.

Today was

great.

It's time, though.

We have to do it.

Wait, can we hold it for one second?

I just want to rip through the NFC West quick.

Arizona is 6-7. They're done.
Niners are 6-7. Not totally done.
You also have Washington at 8-5 with the last wildcard spot. Who the hell knows what's going to happen with them.
They have New Orleans on the road this week. Home Philly, home Atlanta.
At Dallas, I would assume that gets them to at least 10 wins, which would knock out a couple of these teams. But Seattle has Green Bay home, Minnesota home, Chicago on the road, Rams on the road.
And then the Rams have San Francisco and the Jets on the road. Home, Zona.

Home, Seattle.

So it might come down to that Rams-Seattle game.

Yeah.

Yeah, and that's what we thought.

I mean, I was like, this is the only division that's going to come down to week 18.

Now I'm not even sure if we get that.

But at San Francisco, now the 49ers are kind of back.

Not maybe in the mix, but they're going to be spoiler, I think.

If not next week, somewhere

in the road. That was the one.

So that was the bet I lost

this week. I did well this week, and that

was the one. And I didn't just lose it.

It was an annihilation. They look good,

but the Bears also look bad.

There's no such thing as the new coach,

apparently, but I don't know what to

believe with the Niners. Is that the Bears

were just bad or the Niners back? I honestly don't know. And I had that game on for three hours.
I don't know either. I mean, you see that stat in the second quarter or close to half.
It's 310 to two. Yeah.
Yeah, I think you're right. I think that means that there's no new coach energy.
There's no new coach. It's dead.
Two yards. We had the Jets didn't cover with the new coach, and they didn't cover.
The clogger covered. Right.
So. Yeah, that's it.
And what is San Francisco? They're like, that was another narrative that we could throw out. Like, they're done.
They have too many injuries. And then, you know, everybody bid $37 on Isaac Quarendo, and he got them into the playoffs in fantasy, He took over today.
There's one Arizona question that we have to ask because Kyler sucked again today. He had two terrible picks.
That game against Seattle a couple weeks ago, he had that awful play on 4th-1 that basically was the swing that blew the game for them. And Harrison, considering he's the fourth pick in the draft, I can't say he's been jumping off my TV.
Arizona was six and four three weeks ago, and we were feeling good about them. And I like them.
I like that they're playing. And now I'm wondering, what are these last four weeks going to mean for Kyler? And is this the guy that's going to be the QB for them?

Because they don't have a huge fan base.

They're not going to be leading first take tomorrow.

Nobody really cares.

But, you know, this has been a recurring thing with Kyler where it feels like he can keep you around,

but he's not quite good enough.

He can do the garbage time TD at the end of the game

that makes it seem like the game was closer than it was.

But I just, we have a lot of evidence now that you might not be able to trust them against a good defense. Yeah.
They don't finish drives. They don't, you know, they're just still some coaches in the division that they never beat or barely beat.
And like you said, they were winning despite the fact that Harrison wasn't having a great year. I think he probably has five or six touchdowns, but you know, you were expecting him to go for like six for 150 most games, and not that at all.
Now they've lost three in a row, right? Yeah. Well, Bowers turned out to be the receiver from the draft.
Alright, your guy Sam Darnold. So, 347 yards, five TDs today.
He's had clutch games over and over again. Last week, brought them down to win it.
Today, that Falcons game was a little closer. So I'm sure you watched it too.
I know the score and I had to blow up. But I was nervous about the Falcons for two hours in that game.
And Darnold was just winging it downfield. He really has energy with Jefferson and Addison.
Addison, about three touchdowns? It's crazy. So he has almost 3,300 yards, Darnold.
28 touchdowns and 10 picks. And if they earn round one, he'll probably be like a four-plus point favorite.
He's on a one-year deal. They have J.J.
McCarthy. I'd be really hesitant not to bring him back.
I think they have to, today was the first day where I was like, wow, they might have actually found their QB and maybe they should think about trading J.J. McCarthy.
It's interesting. There aren't too many out there like him.
And we're going to talk about some shitty franchises probably a little later. And this is the way to rebound.
You have to

kind of strike gold with a guy like this who's getting

$10 million a year, and you could do that

for a couple seasons.

Baker Mayfield, Geno on a

smaller scale, but I would say

Darnold has a higher upside than both of them

because of the pedigree he had once upon a time.

I think so, too. I think

the Yankees should offer him

$650 million for $15,000, for sure, if you you ask me. Well, so six teams need a quarterback next year.
Vegas, the Giants, Titans, Saints. Maybe the Seahawks if they can't agree to a deal with Geno.
And maybe the Niners if they can't figure out a Brock Purdy extension. And I was looking at those teams and it's like, if you're Vegas and you could get Sam Darnold and you draft Travis Hunter and you have the money to spend, I'm probably doing that.
This guy, the Niners really liked him. The Vikings seem like they love him.
And then if I'm the Vikings, I don't know. I'd have to really think about

this one. He's only 27.
It's not like he's

Kirk Cousins. He's not 37, like

heading into his late 30s. He's entering

the prime of his career and he's playing great.

And he has real

chemistry with the receivers.

They're loaded offensively, but

he's won them a few games now.

And you said 28 and 10.

What did he have? 3,300

yards? Like this is...

I don't know. He's not the reason they're 11 and 2.
But you get rid of them. Get used to being 7 and 6 with the new guy, whoever it is.
I think it's easy at this point, honestly. Yeah, if you're just watching them on Red Zone and you're just seeing the highlights, you've probably seen some of the long passes.
The thing that jumps out to me is they're really nice, long, beautiful, on-target passes. He got lucky today with the first touchdown he had.
His arm kind of got touched, so it was an underthrow, and Addison made a great play. But when you have two weapons like that, you want a guy who's not afraid to wing it down field and who has the confidence to, and if he makes a mistake, he's going to come back.
I think that's been the thing that's been the most impressive with him. We're at the point if I was a Jets fan, I'd actually be legitimately bummed out about it.
The good news is there's like a hundred things. I know he's been on three teams.
Listen, I get it. He's teams since but I was like oh my god like really this guy's like this good yeah so I remember the in the 70s when we lost we plunkett was the number one pick for the pats and he just got the shit kicked out of him they end up like trading him he gets waved then he ends up on the Raiders in the Super Bowl.
And our quarterbacks were terrible when I was a kid.

And then Plunkett's winning the Super Bowl.

And it was kind of like, wait, what's going on?

We had this guy?

It's really frustrating.

Well, I mean, on a different scale, it's like the Bears,

what they did for years with Mahomes.

Like, yeah, we could have had this guy.

I know people say they could have had him, but we were interested and we passed on him.

So, yeah, there's a million what-ifs like that, but the Jets for sure are kicking themselves. It's tough with these late bloomer reclamation guys because that Case Keenum year, we were doing pods and it was legitimate.
He was moving the ball and making plays, but physically he wasn't a big guy. He didn't have a cannon arm.
You there were some smoke and mirrors in it as it was happening, but they were winning with him. So you couldn't say much.
Darnold's like, kind of checks all the boxes for, you know, I don't think he would be like a top seven quarterback, but he has the size, he has the arm, he has the confidence. He can move around.
He had one touchdown that he created today where he like, somehow did this Jedi fucking move to get out of it. It seemed like he was going to get sacked and bought time and just winged it down.
And it's a touchdown. Like, I'm really impressed.
And my buddy who's a Vikes fan, like loves him. He's just like, I just love Darnold.
Like, I don't want him to go. Yeah.
I mean, if you rank the... Let's say we're

in the playoffs now. You rank the quarterbacks.

He wouldn't be at the bottom.

He wouldn't be at the bottom of the list.

And for teams that didn't make the playoffs, like

Tua, I'd have him over

Tua right now.

Yeah, no question.

Some of these other teams, I'm not...

I don't know. I just trust him more.

Do you think he's playing better than Love? I think it's close. I feel like we've all over.
I think he is. You know, we did a weird thing, right, with this division.
Like, we have so much in stock. We ranked them one through four in the beginning of the year, and we have all that stuff going on.
And then we have, oh, Lions are playing great. And then we're like, whoa, the Lions defense is decimated.
And then they hold the Packers to under 300 yards. Another narrative that went south.
But I think we were raising the stock of Jordan Love and the Packers when we probably should have been looking at the Vikings, right? At this point, I think I'd be more surprised if the Packers pulled off an upset in the playoffs than if the Vikings did. Well, the thing with them, they won a couple stupid games early on, right? Like that Jets game in London in week five when the Jets felt like the Jets were going to win the game and they didn't.
They lost to Detroit, the Rams, twice in a row. They had that weird stretch where they beat Indy and the Jags and Tennessee all in a row.
And it like what is this they barely beat the Bears in a game that it felt like the Bears should have won then last week against Arizona Arizona had the game it was 19-6 it felt like it was over this was a real statement game for them and it was also a statement for Atlanta because I don't know how long I just can't imagine they can keep playing Cousins. Yeah, that was a dumb pick by me, Atlanta, this week.
He has eight interceptions in the last four games. And I don't know, why did they draft Pennix? It's a genius pick if you start him, but otherwise it's a huge waste.
Unless there's something like, we don't know, like a Trey Lance situation. Like, no, he's just bad behind the scenes.
You know, trust

us, he's not ready.

We talked about this last week, right?

They had that six weeks after

they signed him? Right.

In March, yeah. Did they know something from

those six weeks?

Cousins, zero TDs in the last

four weeks, six picks in the last two weeks.

And two awful,

awful, awful picks today.

I mean, the problem with him is they're not just interceptions.

They're horrible.

They're like, suck the life out of the team, bad plays.

And like him compared to Darnold, there was no contest.

If you said which one of these guys got 100 million guaranteed last year

to somebody who just woke up from a coma, they would have thought it was Darnold. Oh, yeah.
A lot of big contracts for Cousins. Yeah.
I don't know how he does it. I really don't.
And if it's, you know, I haven't seen the metrics. Did he surpass 36 miles an hour? Because that was the big one.
That's when the DeLorean explodes. I felt like he had a couple that got into the low 40s today.
Oh, that's good. All right.
There's this narrative about how the Giants actually probably need Sam Darnold the most, but they can't sign him because he was on the Jets, and they'd be bringing him back to Giants Stadium. Interesting.
I think that's stupid, but I also can't speak for the despair of Giants and Jets fans these days, but to get somebody that was a Jets cast off,

like mentally is some sort of invisible hump for them, apparently.

Well, unless he thrives with the Giants.

Isn't that the best medicine, right?

There's a little bit of what I'm feeling with Juan Soto right now,

with the Yankees, but I think that would be great.

I'm sorry.

I would go Dome team if I was Sam.

Yeah.

Yeah. It does seem like he's better there.
And the Giants, I don't know if you watched that game. I tried not to.
Well, when they're driving to win, you know the front office is like, oh, what are you doing, Drew Locke? Just get tripped up here or something. That's the red zone I want to see.
The owner's box when the two-win team is driving. The players don't tank because they can't.
They'll get killed. But you know the front office is like, we've got to stay at two wins.
We have to get that top pick. We'll figure out who it is then.
I made a business decision to not watch that game or Jags-Titans and concentrate on all the other ones. And one of the games switched over to Giant Saints, right? That big Drew Locke drive at the end in a big long scramble.
Did you turn your head? No, I actually realized that I should have actually been more focused on it because if the Giants won, the Pats would have gotten, they would have been the number two pick in the draft basically,

unless they win again.

And so all of a sudden I'm rooting for the Giants.

And then of course they,

they Giants stood up at the end and that was,

that was it.

So Pats are at the number three spot right now.

Yeah.

Raiders and Giants are the top two.

Is that right?

Yeah.

So Tampa has,

Tampa is up by a game now.

I like it.

In the NFC South.

I bet that you made it,

I did not.

But,

they have Chargers next week at LA,

at Dallas.

Home for Carolina

in a game that's suddenly tough

because I guess Carolina

is just going to be frisky

every game now

and then New Orleans at home

to end it

with Derek Carr probably not playing.

So I think he might have made a good bet.

He was a little reckless today.

Yeah, but he was reckless.

He really was.

I mean, the Raiders can't help themselves and just blow it towards the end.

But, you know, they're like, you want to turn the ball over three times?

We got you.

We got you.

We got you back, Bucs, 28-13 before you look up. Well, and then Aiden O'Connell left.
The Riddler came in. Desmond Ritter.
He's back. So, the Steelers clinch the AFC North.
Maybe. I think if they split one of the next two games, they probably have it.
They lead the NFL in takeaways. And the most interesting thing to me about that game was just that they did that well without Pickens.
And then Mike Williams made a couple plays for them. Well, this is a tough week, right? Because they're at Philly, and Baltimore's got a walkover against the Giants.
So it could be cut to one, and then they have the head-to-head. Except they're catching Philly during a week

when they looked awful against

Carolina and then A.J. Brown had a

really weird interview after. It was just

like the Eagles, they

just don't want to be loved.

That's who they are. There was too much

love for them the last week. People, especially

when Detroit's defense got banged up, even

I was thinking, I thought they had a

chance to maybe be the best team in the league with Detroit's defense got banged up. Even I was thinking, I thought they had a chance to maybe be the best team in the league

with Detroit's defense,

you know, kind of cratering.

And they barely beat Carolina.

And if you missed the game,

I know you didn't,

but Leggett had the touchdown.

He dropped it.

The game was over.

I thought he caught it.

I was furious.

Like you, I probably had Philly

and five UFC NFL parlays that I made yesterday that were lingering over. I'm like, oh my God, really? They're going to lose this? But he dropped it.
Yeah. I don't know.
Believe me, I did him on Moneyline parlays with all those things you just said. And one guy had $3.1 million on the Eagles.
So that became a rooting interest as well. You know, when I saw that, that made me think Carolina had a chance because I was like, that's just too much money.
This has to get weird now. It's like when the bettors are getting up for the games more than the team, but that might be it.
Maybe you just don't, how much are you going to get up for the Panthers coming to town in December after you've rocked everybody? But yeah, the A.J. Brown thing is weird for sure.

I think if Green Bay had beaten Detroit on Thursday and Philly had a chance to be the one seed,

they might have approached that game a little differently.

Now they're like, eh, we are where we are.

They're basically locked into the two seed, right?

Yeah, I don't think...

There's no scenario where they're not the two seed.

They have a three-game lead over Seattle

and a four-game lead over Tampa. Yep, two seed.
Bryce Yug, though, so they're on their own two. They're down six.
I'm just getting excited for our stupid picks pool because I had Philly minus 12.5 or 13. I'm like, oh, Bryce will throw a pick six and somehow Philly's going to cover.
And then he just kind of started marching down the field. Thielen made a couple big plays.
I thought Bryce was really impressive. I thought I had that in my multi-view on for the whole game and was watching some of it.
And I thought Bryce, he clearly has salvaged whatever he needed to salvage. He's got to be the guy for them next year.
He is decent, man. He really is.

You went over it and how

fluky it was for him to get his job

back, right? It was like a Dalton

family car accident and stuff, but

I think the play you're talking about,

he scrambled on third down from his three.

He ran just up to...

I don't even know if he realized if he wasn't

over the line yet when he passed it,

and then got him down the field.

But yeah, they're going to be

a pain in the ass team. We no longer

All right. I don't even know if he realized if he wasn't over the line yet when he passed it and then got him down the field.
But yeah, they're going to be a pain in the ass team. We no longer have a team where we could just bet against.
And that's why I've been so kind of pissy about the Patriots. Because I think when you have these young teams that are going nowhere, once you hit late November, early December, it could go one of two ways.
Either you go the way the Giants are going, where you've lost eight straight, and it's just a comedy of errors. You can go the way the Patriots are going, where you're looking at every part of the team other than the quarterback going, are we better at one spot than we were eight weeks ago? And you look at Carolina, they've been in these close games now.
I think this was their sixth straight game. There was a point when they looked like they might be the worst team in the league.
They're still losing them all. They're losing them all, but starting, they beat the Saints, they beat the Giants, they lost to Casey by three, they lost to Tampa by three, they lost to Philly by six, and dropped the game-winning touchdown.
That's a six-week sample size if you include the bye week. I feel like they won that.
But then you look at the team like the Pats. Even Vegas has shown a little something.
When you consider they probably have the worst quarterback situation in the league. They almost beat Casey last week.
They kind of hung around against Tampa. Well, your Patriots have been in a couple of these.
I mean, I know it's not, you know, the Titans and stuff. It's not going to get too excited.
I feel like we could be seven and six. If we had Belichick, we'd be seven and six.
That's where I've landed. Steve Belichick? Which one? If we had Steve Belichick, or we had Belichick's girlfriend.
We had to talk about the Jets, who clinched 2024's most depressing team today. They played actually pretty well the whole game.
And Tua was bad, I thought. I thought he was all over the place.
He would have one good throw. He would have a terrible throw.
The team had no flow at all. A couple times, it just seems like he's leading his receivers

toward a spot where they're just going to get decked.

Waddle, a couple times, I almost felt like

pulled up a little because he's like,

nah, I'm not going to stop.

Don't you feel like the way he tilts his body

when he drops back to pass,

and maybe he looks weirder because he's a lefty,

but the way he turns his body,

it feels like anyone could know to jump a route. Right? Right.
Which is why he's throwing it so fast. He gets rid of it in two seconds.
He was fine, except when he can't. But yeah.
And Rodgers was okay for how he's been this year, but had some. I mean, the funniest one was he had Wilson open by 30 yards and somehow led him out of bounds on the throw.
He caught it and like just it was an

80-yard touchdown with anybody.

But they had the game and it felt

like they were going to win. Two-minute warning.

They get a first down on Miami's

27. Miami has two

timeouts left. Clock ticks down to like

under 120.

And here's what they did.

They ran for minus five.

Timeout Miami. Rogers gets sacked for minus six, timeout Miami.
Miami has no timeouts left, and we're close to a minute left. Rodgers throws a 14-yard out to Adams, who goes out of bounds with a minute left.
Jets kick a field goal, go up three, but now instead of having 15 seconds left, the Dolphins have a minute left. They return the kickoff to midfield.
They end up tying it. They win in an OT.
It was abominable. But the Jets suck, so nobody cares.
But it was about as bad clock management as we've seen this year. It was really bad.
The DJ was bad on the other side, too. But you're right.
I don't know why Adams is going out of bounds on that play. If you run for four yards and the clock runs, it's better.
Even if you miss the field goal, it's better than what they did there. No, they could have kneeled three times and it would have been better.
They could have kneeled. Yeah, just don't go backwards.
But the DJ, if I could bring that up for a second, McDaniel, this is my biggest pet peeve in sports. When you're fourth and three on plus territory at the 45, you have to, have to, have to go for the hard count.
You have to. You have to try.
When he punted without even doing it. You can't just bring the punt team on.
You have to line up. And then if you don't do it and they punted through the end zone, which they did, I think the authority should come down and just take you off the field right there because you just don't get it.
You're not trying. These guys are the jittery Jets.
You can get them to jump off sides. It happens like one out of every seven times, so just try it.
It's a great point. I like it.
I'm mad that he has a nickname already, thanks to Lombardi, the DJ, because I think young Dexter would have been a good nickname too because he's in Miami. He kind of looks like he's just going to go back to some room and plan some murders.
He could have a few nicknames. He could be like Shaq with just like six or seven nicknames.
There's no reason not to. Young Dexter.
I wonder like I've been thinking a lot about the head coach stuff because I really hope the Patriots, I don think they will but I'm really hoping the Patriots just get Vrabel I just don't understand why we wouldn't he's in the Patriots Hall of Fame I know he's a good coach like just let's admit the Mayo thing didn't work let's just get Vrabel let's get a real coach we have this unbelievable quarterback let's not waste one year with this let's just get him an awesome coach and let's try to build around the coach and the quarterback

like we did for 20 years in Belichick and Brady.

But I was thinking about what makes a coach succeed

and what doesn't.

Over and over again, it's like the hot play caller gets called in.

Or it's like this amazing defensive whiz.

Or like, this guy is...

Like, are we doing this wrong?

I guess is my point.

Because over and over again it seems

like if they

fired Mayo you know like we've

hired Ben Johnson the Lions

whiz kid offensive coordinator it's going to be great

for Drake May my response would be

is he are we sure

does he know how to coach like all aspects of

the team I know he could probably draw up

some cool plays like the DJ

yeah but does he know

how to like lead men does he know

understand game situations like

Thank you. of the team.
I know he could probably draw up some cool plays like the DJ. Yeah.
But does he know how to lead men? Does he

understand game situations?

We always rave about these great

coaches that we have in the league that you and I love to

bet on like Tomlin and Andy Reid

and the Harbaugh's.

These aren't like whiz

kids specialist things. They're like

attitude. They're like leaders of

men who look for specific things. They build through the lines.
I don't understand why everybody doesn't do that. Wow.
I think that's my soliloquy. I really, well, I think the answer is there might not be enough guys like that.
There just aren't right. I mean, it might be just be a handful leaders of men.
I mean, you got Dan Campbell, you love his post-game speeches. I saw the tweet.
He's another one exactly right. He's awesome.
He's going to win coach of the year, if not for the Lions' great record, because of these speeches. And these get on SportsCenter.
And if you're a Dan Quinn or a Mike Tomlin or an Andy Reid, you kind of have to step it up. You'd like take your shirt off in the locker room and let that get on TV if you're going to win this coach of the year thing, because he's pretty damn good.
And you're right. He's a leader of's a leader.
That's a good point. You got to think of.
Yeah. You almost have to think of the postgame YouTube clip or the Twitter clip on that.
You're right. You're trying to win coach of the year.
Yeah. You almost have to memorize lines like an actor.
Strip down, but wave the shirt over your head. Do something.
Campbell uses notes, which I thought was interesting. I don't know if you've noticed that.
Yeah. He has notes.

He's like,

all right,

first ball.

And he looks down.

Maybe that could be Tomlin's edge.

Tomlin has no notes.

He just knows who to,

who to give the game ball to.

Teleprompter.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway,

my point is I,

I just think the whiz kid thing,

I,

I think we're going to grow out of that soon.

It feels like that goes wrong way more than it goes.

Right.

Cliff Kingsbury last week was the number one guy for the bears in terms of like odds and stuff. Like feels like that goes wrong way more than it goes right.
Cliff Kingsbury last week was the

number one guy for the Bears in terms of

odds and stuff.

How much do you need to see with him?

Right. The Arizona thing went

so badly they paid him

to go away during the season. And even the

coordinator thing is a little sketchy at this point.

Also,

alright, let's say Steve

Sarkeesian is a good... No, that's

Steve. Steve Spagnuolo.

I got my double S's confused. Spagnuolo

Thank you. So also, all right, let's say Steve Sarkeesian is a good, no, that's not Steve, Steve Spagnuolo.

I got my double S's confused.

Spagnuolo is a good example.

Like he was a head coach, didn't work.

Right.

He might go to the Hall of Fame as a defensive coordinator.

Would you rather be like the most incredible offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator?

I know you make more money as a coach, but like Josh McDaniels is a good example. He was an excellent offensive coordinator and a terrible head coach.
So maybe sometimes it's okay maybe to be just like an overqualified, awesome, properly paid defensive coordinator versus getting thrown. I know they have to do it.
I know it's a bigger job. It's more money.
You got to do it, but. Well, maybe if Andy Reid had given him a nicer Christmas gift, Eric B.
Enomy would be around and they wouldn't be scoring 16 points a game. Things like that.
Do you know who the running backs coach is of the commanders? I don't. I don't think so.
It's Anthony Lynn. Oh, yeah.
Remember him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing.

These guys get one head coaching job,

and then they go back,

and they're like a coordinator,

or like a linebacker's coach,

or a running back's coach,

or like a D-back's coach,

or a special teams coach.

And a lot of times,

they get their one shot,

and that's it.

But the big picture point

is Vrabel stated there,

Belichick might go to college,

for God's sakes,

because he's so disgruntled. All right, next topic.
Oh, I want to do a quick Jets thing. The Jets had...
They went 0-7 in these games that they almost won. And I'm just going to remind you the games really quick.
The Denver bad weather game, 10-9, and the guy missed the field goal. Missed the field goal.
And they also lost the ball on downs. Minnesota and London, they had a first down inside the 30, down six, and then Rodgers threw a pick.
Bills, 23-20, they lost that. They were midfield, three minutes left, driving, Rodgers threw a pick.
Pats, 25-22, they lost. They missed a two point to go up seven, and then the Pats drove down the field and won the game on them.
Colts, 28-27, they actually scored, gave up a game-winning drive to Anthony Richardson, which that has somehow happened twice this year. Seattle, 26-21, first down inside the 30, lost the ball on downs.
And then Dolphins, they lose by six today, and I have no idea how they lost. Is it possible the Jets weren't bad? The Jets are three and ten.
Is it possible they actually weren't bad? Even if they go four and three in those games, they're seven and six right now, like battling for a seventh seed. They can't close games.
There are plenty of bad teams that are one score games. You can literally pinpoint Rodgers as the reason they're 3-10 instead of 7-6.

I didn't realize it was that easy to figure out.

All right.

I guess so.

By that, if you're going to measure it like that.

But I also think he should be tired. 0-7?

Yeah.

He went over 300 yards today.

He should be like, that's it.

It's not going to get better than that.

I have a Netflix documentary coming out next week, and I passed for 300 yards, and I'm never going to blame myself. You and I both had the Dolphins money on them.
Yeah, I was scared for a minute. They were reprehensible for most of that game.
They looked like they didn't really want to be there. They looked like they thought the game was three hours later than it was, and they all hustled over and got dressed and just kind of ran out and didn't warm up.
I was alarmed by how, and the Jets moved the ball up and down on them the whole game. They didn't have Brees Hall.
It was pretty disgusting. And then Miami ends up winning anyway.
Our buddy JJ was there. He goes there.
He's like an old man. He flies from New York.
He has to have the sun. He's there.
And he was like, by the end of the game, he texts us. He's like, I was shaking.
I was shaking at the end. I was like, why are you shaking? This is monumental win that puts it.
You lost like six, six and seven. We're one away from 500.
It's like, Oh man, if he was shaking about that, he's not going to be happy about Juan Soto. What's the, let's see the.
Okay. Right now, in your opinion, who is the most depressing franchise? If you're a fan and you're looking at the season you're having, the assets you have, your quarterback coach situation, what your picks are, your salary cap situation, the division you're in, the conference you're in, everything.
Who should be the most depressed right now? Cleveland Browns. I had them number one as well.
Without hesitation. Now the Jameis stuff, he's a miracle.
He's a lot of fun to watch. I think he should be like an all-time quarterback for Monday Night Football or something because he's so much fun.
And today we didn't even get a great Jameis game. We got like a four.
But if he could do anything from... He's actually kind of bad today.
Yeah, yeah. I don't like if he's just bad.
I want him to be great and bad, but ultimately worse. But yeah, they owe their quarterback $92 million over the next two years.
They're a losing franchise.

They have borderline criminal

owners, alleged bribery scandal

all over the place, and they're in a tough...

I mean, that division is gross.

How are they going to...

They'll play like today. They'll be close for

a minute, and that's it. But they're

looking at like 6-11 the next few years,

I think, at best.

I had them number one as well. My second pick was the giants.
Hmm. Eight straight losses, most incompetent NFL franchise really for the last decade.
If you, if you look at record, you look at all the stuff that's happened with them. They don't have a QB coach or GM.
I want at least one of the if I'm you know they're 0 for 3 today a plane flew over the stadium that said Mr. Mara enough please fix this dumpster fire was flying over the stadium and now they're going to have the number one pick and it's a draft where nobody really likes the QBs yeah it's rough and you're going to have to talk yourself into Sam Darnold.
I think they have to be second. Would you have anybody over them? If I had to go next, I would take the Bears, I think.
Oh, interesting. I had that Bears number nine.
Oh, you did? Oh, wow. Who do you have above them? Because I think you could talk yourself into Caleb, and they, you know, they've had some draft picks and.

I think that division is going to be very good for a while. And I feel like it's a little depressing, the Caleb thing right now.

And they, they just don't really,

I don't think they know what they're doing in the front office.

And I, you know, they're in a loud, much like the giants,

they're in a loud city, you know,

they're never going to hear the end of how bad they are forever.

So it gets amplified. Who do you have? I had the Raiders third for me.
They're paying three coaches right now. They have the worst record in the league.
They've had no results whatsoever other than that one year they made the playoffs with Carr when Max Crosby was fun. We had Pit Boss Rich.
That was fun, I guess. That was good.
No QB. I don't, I guess Tom Brady is now a part owner, but there's just not a lot going on.
And I'm in a division now with Mahomes and Harbaugh and Herbert and Sean Payton. And I'm just bummed if I'm a Raiders fan.
Yeah. I think they interviewed 31 agents.
Was James Babydoll Dixon one of them? I don't know. But they all said they were the worst run organization, the Raiders.
And they've been taking wild swings for 25 years and can't get there. Who'd you have for four? Okay.
For four, worst franchise. I'm going to go Quiznos.
We had someone work at Jimmy Kimmel Live and move to the Pacific Northwest 15 years ago,

open the Quiznos, and it closed immediately.

And now you hear less about it than Subway, Jimmy John's, Blimpies, Jersey Mike's, Fat

Sal's out here.

You make your own sandwiches.

There's too many options.

Let's prepare for that.

They're in trouble, Quiznos.

Quiznos.

Unless they sponsor us. In that case, they'll...
Jimmy Jets is taking their lunch. Yeah.
All right. Go ahead.
You go. Jets.
Yeah. They'll unwind this Rogers thing, but they've spent so much capital and cap picks, everything.
Their fans have no faith in anything they do. They don't have a coach.
They don't have a GM. They don't have a quarterback.
When you're 0 for 3, as I said earlier, that's where you get worried. I don't really know what the solutions are.
I guess the good news is they lost today. Those are pretty easy top four for me.
Browns, Giants, Raiders, Jets. Anybody else you would put up there? I thought what was interesting about this exercise was I would have the Panthers in the top three like two months ago.
And now, you know, I think they might have found a coach. And I think they at least have a QB that they know they can bring into the offseason and feel good about.
They're going to have another high draft pick. They've paid the Caleb thing.
The Caleb trade turned the way Caleb played this year. It's, you know, maybe not going to haunt them in the way we could have thought.

So I dropped them down to number eight.

Well, let me ask you this.

Who would you rather have?

So you'd rather have the Panthers franchise

than the Jaguars.

Yeah, because the thinking with the Panthers

was they're in such a funky division.

They're in with the Bucks and the Saints and the Falcons. Like, all I have to do is, you know, find a couple good players.
I can go to war. Whereas if I'm the Jags, I'm in a division with Stroud.
I don't know. I guess it's not that way.
I mean, they're paying Trevor Lawrence $2.75 for five, I think. So that's got to be your guy.
I had Titans five and Jags six. And the only difference is the Titans definitely don't have a QB, and I don't think they have a coach either or a GM.
The Jags might have a QB. Right.
That's it. And I do like Brian Thomas.
I do like some of the Jags.

I do wonder what would happen if you gave them a really good coach next year.

Because I do think they have some talent.

Whereas the Titans, they were awful today.

You also have to have an owner who wants to win.

Okay, most of them do.

And is not a freaking idiot, right?

Like, I don't know.

We can't put my team up there because it's just worth too much.

You did. Yeah.
Son of a bitch. I had the Bears ninth and the Cowboys tenth.
All right. But, you know, it's a distant tenth compared to Jets, Titans, Jags, four, five, six.
Like, you're miles away from those teams. They're kind of worth a lot, though, if you wanted to sell them.
I'm just talking about winning. The Saints, I had number seven.
That's another one where I don't really know long term what you got there. They're probably the weirdest ownership situation combined with what's going on with the basketball team.
No QB. They're in cap hell.
Peyton fled them a couple years ago for mysterious reasons. I think they have to be mentioned as well.
I think we have to mention the Patriots too. They haven't won their division in years.
In years they haven't won a division. They have an impossible time building a roster.
Listen, if we didn't have Drake May, we would be in the top five for this combo. You got a stadium, no one cares.
Nephew Kyle's the only one ballsy enough to wear the jersey. I have the majors, you know.
I wore it last week. That's true.
Want to do Guest Alliance?

Yeah,

let's do it.

I don't think we take

any breaks.

Do we take breaks?

No,

we're just flying through.

I like it.

All right.

Kyle's going to put

the breaks in.

Oh.

Thursday night,

Niners-Rans

in San Francisco.

Interesting one. A more exciting game than it was a week ago.
If you told me like Friday, how excited are you about Niners-Rams next Thursday, I would have been like, eh, four. Now it might be like a seven.
I like it. Seven and a half.
Play tough, San Francisco. Play like, give us your B-minus game at least for this one.
What's our record for guess the lens what are we I won the last

couple weeks seven six and one you still

have the lead

I have the Niners by three

over the Rams

yeah you get this by the way you're going to

win this week I was way off on a lot

I said one I said one

and a half it's two and a half so you're getting

pretty putting Rams on every teaser I know you are I said one and a half. It's two and a half.
So you're getting it.

You're putting Rams on every teaser.

I know you are.

Bengals tomorrow.

Rams Thursday.

Good.

Good job by you.

Something I don't trust about the Rams.

It's never easy with them.

You know?

Even today. What was that score? 35- 13 at one point.
Yeah. Something like that.
Just don't, never feel comfortable with them. And you watch that offense is so many weapons.
Yeah, I know it. That's the thing.
It feels like they, you watch their offense and they seem like they should be the, nobody wants to see these guys in the playoffs, but I feel like people will be fine seeing them.

Sunday's marquee game. We had two really good options for this, but I'm going to go with

Lions-Bills

in Detroit.

Jared Goff had the puncher's chance to steal

the MVP. I don't think he will.

Bills don't totally need the

game, as we mentioned earlier.

They're going to be their two-seater or three-seater. Lions kind of need the game as we mentioned earlier they're going to be their two seed or three seed

Lions kind of need the game

because the Vikings won't go away

and the Eagles won't go away either

so I had the Lions

by three and a half

we split this

I said one and a half

it is two and a half

you surprised?

that's fair

well I didn't think they were going to make it three I know it's not a must win for the Bills but I just don't see them losing back to back a lot it's a fun one I'm already fast forwarding to Dan Campbell's written speech excited I wonder it feels like they docked the Lions at least a point for the defensive injuries. Did you see Hutchinson might come back for round three? I saw.
I think it's far. I know.
They weren't bad, though, against Green Bay. I know it was a lot of points, but if you hold them less than 300 yards, this was my preseason Super Bowl pick, too, so it should be fun.
By the way, there's seven good games this week. Yeah.

Watchables.

I have four.

I have eight good games.

Texans home for the Dolphins.

I put some games in the Watchables and the Fairly Watchables

because they're kind of

loser-leave town matches for at least one of the

teams. Like in this case, Texans-Dolphins.
I don't think the Dolphins can lose again. I'm not even sure they're a playoff team.
But the Broncos are also playing the Colts. And that's one that normally would be like a fairly watchable, but that's actually a really good game.
That's probably a seventh seed. And there's a scenario where Dolphins beat the Texans, Colts beat the Broncos, and now all of a sudden we have all these scenarios to figure out.
So, Houston, Miami, I have the Texans by three and a half over Miami. Oh, do I get this one? I do.
I said two. It's two and a half.
No, that's too low. That's stupid.
I have some big, big misses coming up. I might bet Houston straight up in that one.

I was not impressed by the Dolphins today.

No.

They just look sloppy and asleep would be my scouting report.

Broncos, Colts.

Yeah.

You know, Broncos have been tough to gauge how the bookmakers think of them.

So I'm going to play it safe.

Broncos by three.

That's what I said.

It's five and a half.

Yeah.

See, that's what I mean.

Thank you. how the bookmakers think of them.
So I'm going to play it safe. Broncos by three.
That's what I said. It's five and a half.
Yeah, see, that's what I mean. I can't tell if Fando and company like the Broncos or not because sometimes it seems like they do, and then other times it seems like they don't.
Five and a half is rich. Well, I know you said Rams-Bills was the game of the year, but I don't think we could say enough about Denver Cleveland last Monday that was up there too that was at least the gambling moment of the year oh yeah Jameis somehow taking the depth of the one and then throwing another pick Eagles Steelers in Philly this was the other candidate for the marquee game.
And I think this has to be Eagles by three. That's what I said.
I can't believe this, actually. Four and a half.
See, this is what I was telling you before. People don't see the Steelers thing.
And I think it's good for us. All right.
Steelers special. Let's do it.
They dump the first half and win the game. The Steelers get no respect.
It's bizarre. I mean, Tomlin against Philly in Philly, getting like four and a half, five.
I guarantee I'd pick that game. Chargers home for the Bucs.
And the Bucs have been scotch taping it here for a while. Chargers look good today.
I had this at three this morning when I did this, but I'm going to bump at a half point. I'm going to say Chargers by three and a half.
Oh, shouldn't have bump. No bump.
I said one and a half. It's two and a half.
So we split this. God damn it.
Why did I touch it? What's going on? I like the Chargers. I think the Bucs are going to have a lot of trouble scoring against them.
Yeah, I think Baker's going to be a little jittery. They'll get to him in the pocket.
It's a fun one, though. You know, this could be...
They'll have more fans, right? The Chargers.

It's a rare home game with an advantage.

Yeah, how many Tampa fans would make the trip

from Florida to LA in mid-December?

Fairly watchables.

Chiefs.

At Cleveland.

In a game that, by law, has to be in the Vegas zone. And I'm going to say Chiefs by five and a half.
This makes me, people are going to think I've never done this before. And they might be.
I said nine and a half. It's six and a half.
Hmm. I don't know.
I mean, I guess. I don't know.
I hate them both for various reasons.

They just don't know what to make these Chiefs lines anymore.

Yeah.

They have no idea.

Washington is at the Saints.

I assume no Derek Carr, which means this line has to be at least three and a half.

And that's what I'm going to guess.

Washington by three and a half.

So that's what I said.

Unless they change this, it's seven. Washington by seven.
So Carr's out. Not a lot of Spencer Rattler fans? No, I guess not.
I'm trying to figure out why this would be. Washington off or buy? I don't love it.
Last fairly watchable. At least fairly watchable for me.
Cardinals at home for the Patriots. Probably the Pats' last chance to win a game.
Cardinals playing to stay in the playoff hunt. And I was in Denver on Thursday.
Here's how much I love Drake May. The Patriots over under on FanDuel was three and a half.
And the under was plus 152. Yeah.
And I'm like, we're not winning another game this year. Like this is, we're finishing three and 14 unless some crazy Drake May game happens.
Plus 152. What a great line.
I should bet that. I'm not betting it.
I didn't bet it. Wow.
I don't want to root against Drake May. I love Drake May.
I can't root against him. Nephew Kyle was telling me about this too.
You guys betting like crazy. And did he go for under three and a half? He would never.
No. We discussed it.
We were like very unlikely win-win again, but not betting against Drake May. Yeah.
This should be close. What do you think?

Yeah, I got to say,

so I'd have cards by six.

What'd you have?

I said six also.

That's six and a half.

Am I really matching?

I think the Pats could win this game.

Why not?

Poopfecta.

Bengals at Titans.

I have Bengals by six at Tennessee.

I swear I had the same thing and it's four and a half.

They put it in Vegas.

Ravens.

So we have a lot.

Oh, shit.

I just realized this.

Jesus.

What's the matter?

Just a lot of home underdogs.

Yeah.

So we have Browns, Saints, Titans, Giants, potentially a couple more here,

and then potentially a Monday nighter.

Thank you. underdogs.
Yeah. So we have Browns, Saints, Titans, Giants,

potentially a couple more here and then potentially

a Monday nighter.

Ravens at Giants.

I'm going to say Ravens

by 10 and a half

and I'm not going to put them

in a tease.

You're going to get this

because I said 10.

It's 14 and a half.

Oh my Lord.

That's stupid.

Obviously nobody's watched

Lamar and Jim and John Harbaugh against a shitty team in the road. If a team has given up, what can you say? And the Giants are up 14-3 heading into halftime here at Giants Stadium.
Cowboys-Panthers. Had a lot of trouble with this one.
I gave this the old one and a half. Cowboys by one and a half at Carolina.
I had a lot of trouble with this one. I gave this the

old one and a half. Cowboys by one and a

half at Carolina.

I had even more trouble. I said Cowboys

by three.

Get ready, Bill. Panthers

by one and a half.

That

is a low point for the franchise.

Maybe the Cowboys are the worst franchise.

Maybe we have to re-rank these franchise clowns. Oh my God.
Wow. I'm staring at it and it's not changing.
The Panthers are favored against the Cowboys. If I had told you six weeks ago that in week 15, the Panthers were going to be favored by a point and a half of the Cowboys, would you have assumed there was like a bus accident? If you told me six minutes ago, I wouldn't believe it.
I still don't believe what's going on here. Now, I guess it's...
Wow. The Panthers have been good.
This is what we talked about earlier. They've been good.
I mean, a good-bad team. Not good-good.
I know. They hang around in these games.
I'd rather have their quarterback. I'd rather have their running back.
I'd rather have one of their receivers. Yeah, you're right.
The defensive tackle. I guess it makes sense.
It's just very depressing. Jets are at Jacksonville speaking depressing.
I don't know if it gets more depressing than this. This is the Aaron Rodgers-Mac Jones game.
Nobody wanted. And I have the Jets favored by one and a half.

I got this exactly.

It's three.

They still like the Jets, the odds makers.

They do.

Yeah, they still do.

Did they end up covering today?

Because it was six and a half and it dropped to five and a half?

I think during the week it was five and a half.

And I'd kick off it with six and a half.

But you can't win by six and a half in overtime. Sunday night.
You're up 11-9. So if you win one of these, I think you're in good shape.
I'm hitting this one. Seahawks Packers in Seattle.
A very good one. Always a problem with the uniforms.
Always confusing. Oh, yeah.
Some good history with these two teams.

I'm going to say Seahawks by one and a half.

Oh, no, no, no.

I said Green Bay by one.

It is Green Bay by two and a half.

Oh, man.

Let's go.

That's a big mistake.

This could be good because I picked one.

There's two Monday night games, and I picked one of them exactly. Packers two and a half.
Wow. You're looking at a teaser.
I know you are. Did anyone watch the Seahawks the last couple of weeks? I guess they'll have the rest advantage, right? Green Bay.
Jordan Love in Seattle. Two Monday night games.
Yep. And I wish they were better.
You know, I don't care. I just, as long as they're seven early afternoon now.
I mean, because it would have been eight if there was one, right? True. It's fine.
It's fine. Vikings home for the Bears.
And I don't see how this is less than seven and a half.

So I'm going to say Vikings by seven and a half.

I said seven.

It is seven.

Jesus.

So I'm up one on you right now.

You're up one.

You're up one.

And wait, one, two, three.

Eleven, two.

No, it's eleven, eleven. I was off by a point and a half in this.
You should be able to maybe get it. Desmond Ritter against his whole team.
What a game. Atlanta at Vegas.
I'm going to say Atlanta by three and a half. Oh, I pulled it out.
Four.

It's five and a half. Oh, my God.
What a win. What a day.

Juan Soto. This is

great. Juan Soto, you've tied me and guessed the

lines.

I'm a little less depressed that the Cowboys

are on the dog to the Panthers.

Unbelievable.

All right, let's do parent corner.

What do you got? Let's do it. what do you got let's do it

what do I have

alright

a couple things

first of all

my youngest

my 10 year old

is in his travel baseball team

he got 5 hits this weekend

and he's batting like 360

and he's available Mets

I know you don't have any money left

but he is available

so he wants to hit 400

in the worst way

and I asked him

if he'd rather get all A's in school

and hit 300

or all C's

and hit 400

Thank you. So he wants to hit 400 in the worst way.
And I asked him if he'd rather get all A's in school and hit 300 or all C's and hit 400. And he gave the right answer.
He said he'd rather get all C's and hit 400. And I made sure his mother wasn't looking at it.
I high-fived him. So anyway, I'm a good father.
But the big one I want to talk about is the Spotify rap and how much of a loser I feel like because I'm embarrassed to say that even though this is what I like, Kenny Loggins, Billy Joel, Huey Lewis and the New, Chicago and Hall & Oates, those are my top five. Some of those bands are too old for even you to make a documentary about.
So I don't even know. I mean, I've heard you something a million times.
And all I've heard you about the Yacht Rock doc. Yeah, absolutely.
So you're just old. I'm just old and it's sad, but then it said like July was my psychedelic beach goth moment.
I was like, oh wow. And I was big into the growlers, the dead ghosts and the pesos.
I was like, this is terrific. I don't even remember listening to those.
It's my kids. It's my son.
It's my college kid who shares it with Spotify. And he puts me in a different realm, but it makes me feel bad.
Like, wow, those sound like cool bands. I couldn't name one song by any of them, but the growlers, I don't think the Spotify rap, even though the, the son comes in for the save, what's like some, uh, I assume hipster music.
I don't think the Spotify rap, even though the sun comes in for the save, what's like some, I assume, hipster music.

I don't know about the Spotify rap.

If an app tells you how many times you get up in the middle of the night to pee,

it's like, I don't want that getting out.

So thanks for trying to save me, kid.

But I'm old and dying.

The growlers.

The growlers. My daughter asked if she could Instacart some stuff in college.
And I said yes. And I just wanted to redo the order as my parent corner.
I'll do it. Almond Breeze Unsweetened.
Almond Breeze Unsweetened Original Almond Milk Non-Dairy milk alternative. Hood instant whip light cream.

Ready whip orange original dairy whip topping. These are the first four things she got.
Girardelli hot cocoa with chocolate chips. Swiss Miss milk chocolate hot cocoa K-cup pods.
Pillsbury eater bake chocolate chip cookie dough. Toll House chocolate chip lovers cookie dough with chocolate chips and chocolate chunks.

Peanut butter, 90% less fat, powdered. chocolate chip cookie dough.
Toll House, chocolate chip lovers, cookie dough with chocolate chips and chocolate chunks.

Peanut butter, 90% less fat,

powdered, original.

That was my favorite, less fat after all these other orders.

Archer Farms, women's plaid,

flannel holiday matching family

pajama set, small.

Archer Farms, women's plaid,

flannel holiday matching family

pajama set, large. Strawberries, Jet Puff mini marshmallows, and Skinny Pop microwave popcorn with sea salt.
Wow. That was the Instagram order.
And apparently she was at my dad's house and they decided to make cookies and drink hot chocolate. Oh, good.
And she wanted to wear all this stuff.

But I got the order and I'm like,

are you in college or you're in like second grade?

What's happening?

Remember in college,

like you used to go to college

and you were just on your own

and you had like,

somebody had like a toaster oven

and now you can just order whatever the fuck you want

and it comes.

That was it.

Yeah, you had a crock pot or something.

Having hot chocolate when we were in college, it would have been like a miracle. It'd be like, you have hot chocolate? It sounds amazing.
Do you have like a crock pot? You could make it? Now it's just, I don't know. The whole thing of being in college, I just feels like it's like in this delivery era.
Like, oh, I want pizza. Oh, our pizza place closed.
Oh shit. I guess we can't have pizza.
Now it's now it's like oh just order a pizza so easy yeah you're right does college make it too easy on our kids yeah like or just like 2024 it's it too easy to be a kid in college compared to the way it used to be like you used to like get sent off and that was it man you had to like sink or swim. You're on your own.
Fend for yourself. Right.

I don't know if I blame college, but she'd be doing this at home too, right? If you were

paying attention. Yeah, she definitely would have done that at home.

Yeah, I like it. Well, you see her every couple weeks,

but it'd be funny if she came back like for Christmas

break, 225 pounds. She's trusted red flail.

Yeah.

But that's the thing.

She'll take like two bites of all this stuff because we call her the maggot is her nickname in our house. Cause she, she'll like, there'll be a piece of pizza on the counter and she'll just take like, just enough of the cheese to ruin the piece, but not eat the pizza.
So I was like, Oh, the maggot got it. Um, you know what Sergeant Slaughter would call his opponents, a maggot.
You should get a sergeant camo. You know how maggots just eat away at the...
We call Ben the raccoon. Because when Ben gets into the kitchen, it's a lot different.
There's a lot of damage. Yeah.
Did you watch UFC last night? I did. I did.
It was great. Really good.
It was actually a better card than I thought. A couple weird decisions, but it was pretty good.
I had opposite of you. You had gone, right? I had Volkov.
Yeah, that was... I don't know if he won any round.
No, I wrote the bet off. I thought he lost all three rounds.
What did he do? Why do they have a Gracie in there? Just because of the name? And is that the best Gracie they could have? Because he seemed content to fight from his back. He just didn't half guard before he was thrown down.
He was like 36. But Rogan made a big case for him when he came out.
He was like, Gracie, we talked to him. He said he's feeling great.
And he just got completely annihilated. There's got to be a better Gracie is what I'm thinking.
The LA card is going to be unbelievable. Yeah, that's fun.
Is that in February? No, it's January 18th. Oh, okay.
That's it for Panic Corner. Anything else we got? That's it.
What number is Juan Soto going to wear? I don't know. It'd be funny if he had to pay someone like three and a half million dollars for it.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
What is he going to do? Whatever freaking number he wants. He could wear an ampersand.
Well, we should mention on the Ringer Sunday pregame show, you are now 12 and two on your best bets. That's pretty good, right? Like I brag and I'm an asshole on that show for sure.
And I asked these guys if they wanted to concede. But yeah, it's right there in the beginning of the show.
We give our best bets. We're giving bets the whole hour and a half.
It's a lot of fun. We're having a pretty good year just in general.
I think our futures did good. Million Dollar Picks is doing good.
The Ringer Sunday pregame is doing pretty good. Everybody's house has been hitting some underdogs.
Underdogs. The house heats up with the underdogs in December.
Who did he have today? He had Jacksonville? Jaguars. Yeah.
He made a case that said the Titans' numbers were fraudulent. They're defensive numbers.
And a defensive player, okay. But yeah, we have Cousin South's winning weekend on Friday against all odds.
By the way, you want winners 7-1 with our last eight basketball bets. Better anyone else on the ringer.
Actually, it's quite sad. No one can compete, but, um, yeah.
And then, uh, what else, uh, through the ringer with Tate Frazier. I want to thank our friend, Kurt Schwartz cough.
The general hooked me up at the into it dome. What did you do? Fun.
What'd you, what'd you, what'd youippers? I got tickets. I saw the Clippers and the Trailblazers.

I bet the Clippers that night.

I know you gave your review of the place.

I mean, I feel like I was buying a condo trying to get into the app and face scanning and all that shit.

But once you're in, it's pretty great.

It's fun.

They make it really hard.

Games for the kids at the seats and everything.

Ballmer did a nice job on the cheap.

Wait, before we go. Seahawks minus 135, Rams plus 160.
Yeah. Tampa's minus 230, Atlanta's plus 185.
Pittsburgh's minus 210, Baltimore's plus 175. They're just dying to get you to try to put Baltimore money down look at that Steelers schedule

and there's a whole path

but I think the Steelers are going to do it anyway

alright cuz as always good job by you

good job by you buddy

thanks to Kyle Creighton

thanks to Steve Cerruti

thanks to Gahal

and you can watch this on Spotify

you might not have even realized that

as you were listening to it

but you can watch it on the YouTube channel as well

I'm going to be back with the Rewatchables on Monday night

to the Michael Douglas movie

Thank you. I don't have a few years with them

on the wayside

on the first side

I don't have