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Speaker 1 Coming up on this podcast, Cousin Sal and I went live on YouTube right after Packers Steelers, an entertaining game that wasn't as much of a throw as we thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 1 We're live on the YouTubes following Packers, Steelers, a game that I thought would be a little more thrilling because it looked like the Steelers were going to do all the stuff they normally do.

Speaker 1 They were somehow plus 18 in field goals with their four, and then the

Speaker 1 Green Bay misses two. I was waiting for the fourth quarter fumble right when the Packers had momentum, that all of a sudden the guy was just going to bobble it.

Speaker 1 Steelers recovery, Steelers going, but it didn't happen. The Packers actually took care of business, and that was that.
Who'd you have in that game? I had Green Bay. I had them all over the place.

Speaker 1 I had them minus 13 and a half. So that would have been fun if they didn't give up that last touchdown.
But I can't get greedy. What a nice week for favorites.
Idiots like you and I.

Speaker 1 put money line parlays all over the place. I hope you don't have too much attached to Kansas City because that's where they're going to get us, right, tomorrow.

Speaker 1 But anyway, I do do have some stuff with kansas city yeah i was i was smart enough to not attach anything to uh kirk cousins once we found out we got bait and switched with the panics cousins thing we can talk about that later um do you want to start with steelers or packers because i thought this game said a lot about both I mean, we could talk about either, you know, I mean, the only way to escape the shadow, Bill, is by beating the shadow.

Speaker 1 And that's what Jordan Love did tonight.

Speaker 1 Do people even really link Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers together? I felt like the Rodgers Sparrow thing was a way bigger deal than Jordan Love and Rodgers, right? I didn't think so.

Speaker 1 And especially then they went on to talk about how, oh, they've, they've maintained the relationship throughout and watch for them to switch jerseys after the game.

Speaker 1 It's like, all right, well, that's no fun. What do I care about that? Yeah, I'd rather have them eyeballing each other.
Yeah. So Steelers, we've been saying this for a while.

Speaker 1 We thought they were a little fraudulent, right? And they lose that Thursday night game to the Bengals. And then this game, I thought they got overpowered.

Speaker 1 I thought Collins Worth had a good point in the fourth quarter when he was, he was saying one of the coaches was saying, watch the pile.

Speaker 1 If the pile is moving, you know, our way toward them and they're moving backwards, that's what we think is going to happen in this game. And that's actually what happened.

Speaker 1 I thought the Steelers got a little overpowered. Their defense got torched.
And, you know, they've been duct tape and scotch tape for a few weeks here, but I think this is who they are.

Speaker 1 I think they're like a nine and eight team. And by the way, that might be good enough to win the AFC North.
That could be. Yeah, we'll look at those odds.
But yeah, you're right. And

Speaker 1 I think the key is, like you said, this Steelers defense is garbage. It really is like 31st in the league against the pass.
I think people don't want to admit it because they have TJ Watt.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, no, no, rough and tough Steelers. But they, you know, it just took a matter of time for Jordan Love to heat up.

Speaker 1 And by the way, the way he heated up was kind of weird, like these underthrown passes to Tucker Kraft and then another one.

Speaker 1 So, but whatever got him going, then he put a string of, I don't know how many in a row he threw complete. And yeah, they just, they're not, they don't show up, the Steelers defense.

Speaker 1 And we talk about them against the Ravens. The Ravens were the bad defense, right? They're going to give up 40 a game.
We might see that with the Steelers. Yeah, there was a moment.

Speaker 1 So if I'm a Steelers fan, I'm looking at that play where it looked like the Steelers were off sides. I mean, I'm sorry, the Packers.

Speaker 1 And Rodgers whipped one off, incomplete, but it seemed like he took a little bit of a chance because he thought it was an offsides. And it seemed like an offside.
They didn't call it.

Speaker 1 And then the Packers come right back down.

Speaker 1 They get that crazy Jordan Love bloop pass to Kraft that easily could have been a pick, too, but ended up being a great play, and it felt like the game flipped from that point on.

Speaker 1 But if I was a Steelers fan, I'd be looking at, oh man, if they had called that offsides, we had momentum, the Packers, yeah, but you know, the Packers, I've noticed this a few times, they're, they remind me a little of the Eagles, where it's the pace of whatever they're doing, it takes a while for them to

Speaker 1 get going. And it's it, you know, it's a three and out, and it's slow, and it's methodical.
And you're like, you have all these weapons. Why aren't you guys just going, going, going?

Speaker 1 And then the second half, they kind of did that. I think they're pretty scary.

Speaker 1 Like, I, I, House and I, we took them in Ringer 107, partly because we thought they haven't really played an awesome game in a while and we think it hasn't in them.

Speaker 1 I don't know if this was an awesome game, but it was a really good game. But I think they have the most pieces of anyone in the NFC other than the Eagles, right? I've

Speaker 1 offensively, yeah. I mean, well, first of all, both.
I mean, Micah Parsons, again, in everyone's grill. Gary

Speaker 1 Gary's right there, Rashawn Gary. And, you know, and like the one completion there, that pass interference, like Rodgers had to let it go.
And that, that was a long pass downfield.

Speaker 1 But that's what the Packers do. That's exciting.
They throw downfield, right? So they're always going to be in it. They have eight or nine talented pass catchers now.

Speaker 1 Now that Christian Watson's back, it's kind of ridiculous. I don't even know how Jordan Love knows who to throw to, but yeah, they throw downfield.
They get big plays. Tucker Kraft is insane.

Speaker 1 And yeah,

Speaker 1 that looked more like the week one team we saw against the Lions for for sure. And they can run the ball.
They can rush the passer, like you said. They can defend the pass enough.

Speaker 1 Special teams is good, although even the field goal kicker costs them tonight.

Speaker 1 But, you know, I always keep tally of like wins, losses, and then either or games. That was a legitimate win.
So they have four legitimate wins, three either or games. They don't have a loss yet.

Speaker 1 Where it was like, oh, man, they got their, they lost. They got their butt kick for three hours, or they were never in that game.
They don't have one of those yet. They're playing the Panthers.

Speaker 1 Cowboy's tie should count as a loss

Speaker 1 more we see of Dallas, but

Speaker 1 they play the Panthers next week at home. Eagles home on a Monday night.
They play the Giants who lost Scatterbu

Speaker 1 and have nobody left. Vikings week 12, who they're a mess.
And really, their next tough game is week 13

Speaker 1 at Lions for Thanksgiving. So they could go on a little run here.
And if you're them, I think you think you might have a legitimate chance at, could you get a one or a two seed?

Speaker 1 I think would be the goal. Yeah, at this point, it has to be.
It's funny. I look at these schedules.
I remember thinking, oh, the Steelers have a really tough November.

Speaker 1 And now you look at it like three weeks later. It's like, oh man, oh, Viking, you know, they could beat the Bears.
Like, this is, no one's that good, right? So no one really stands out.

Speaker 1 And therefore, like, kind of everyone's in it. But those odds for the AFC North are just insane.

Speaker 1 Baltimore's minus 110. Baltimore's two and five, and they're minus 110 to win that division.
The Steelers are plus 175. That was with like three minutes left.
Maybe that changed. I don't know.
Well,

Speaker 1 one of the things I wrote down in the second half was, so Baltimore plays Miami Thursday night.

Speaker 1 They could be one win behind Pittsburgh after Thursday night. Pittsburgh was feeling like everything was going in their favor.

Speaker 1 I still don't know what I didn't really fully understand that Lamar Jackson story and why it was a big deal. Why do you think that was a big deal?

Speaker 1 Why do I think that people are making a big deal of it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, there's a lot of money on the line to say what we have firsthand why it was a big deal. Like everybody bet them at six and a half thinking Lamar Jackson was playing.

Speaker 1 Everyone had fantasy implications. I don't know.
Other than that, you should just be honest with your injury report, right? Did he practice or did he not?

Speaker 1 Well, but they never said he was officially playing it on Sunday. It was a little leap of faith-ish, right? I think it was

Speaker 1 Friday range.

Speaker 1 Did he practice or not? I think was the question.

Speaker 1 So the

Speaker 1 because I didn't follow this because there was so many stuff happening today. So is the theory that

Speaker 1 is the theory that they just blatantly lied about him practicing when he didn't,

Speaker 1 and that's affecting all this different stuff. And this is like the one no-no for the league.
So that's, that's a conclusion you could jump to.

Speaker 1 And then people, of course, because they're crazy, have to jump to the next conclusion that they wanted people to bet the Ravens.

Speaker 1 And then, I don't know, Fandel split the money with the league because not that it mattered because they covered. I was like, everyone covered.
See this in the conspiracy corner. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, for me, this is always the same thing. It's like, okay, what's to be gained? And what happens if they find out you actually did this, right? What's to be gained?

Speaker 1 Nothing compared to the trillions of dollars that the, you know, the league makes. And what's to be lost? Well, you're already being accused of it.
Like, that's terrible.

Speaker 1 And if you're found guilty, like this, you know, it's good. Players like Roger, it's going to happen to one-off players every now and then.

Speaker 1 Organizations and leagues are not going to cheat to get gambling money. People betting.
And I just don't know. But that's why I was asking why this was a big deal.

Speaker 1 It's so absurd that the Ravens, you know, this is a franchise worth $7 billion.

Speaker 1 They're going to be like, yo, we might be able to make a couple hundred thousand here if we can deceive the public and get some bets both ways. It's ludicrous.
I don't think so. To me,

Speaker 1 the bigger disgrace was the Falcons all week,

Speaker 1 whatever that number was, everyone thought Penix was playing. And then they bring in the Kirk Cousins corpse for today.
And it was like, you knew within, what, 25 minutes?

Speaker 1 I had, House and I had the Falcons and Ringer 107. We thought Pennex was playing by 10.35 Pacific time.
I was like, ah, it just has no chance. Cousins just is done.

Speaker 1 It was so funny that he was in trade rumors this year. Who's trading for him?

Speaker 1 Nobody could trade. I mean, maybe it's just a joke.
I mean, because they open the bag for him wherever he goes, but I just, yeah, the Atlanta games, I think we have to learn.

Speaker 1 I think we have to put a block on our YouTube 4 box to not let us put Atlanta in it. We have to put a parental control on it.
Can we block all parts of them? Can we block gambling?

Speaker 1 I mean, you should be able to put a parental control. I'm not betting it.
Don't let me bet Atlanta. Don't let me bet Atlanta games because that's it.
But yeah, Cousins was bad, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 I find myself trying to defend these bad bad, especially the 1 p.m. window quarterbacks, and they just didn't have the ball at all in the first half.
Like it was like 20 to 10 time of possession.

Speaker 1 I think they had like 16 plays or something. Crazy Atlanta.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 let's just stay away from them. When Cousins does the thing where he holds his head,

Speaker 1 a little kid who has sensory disorder and there's like a loud alarm going off and he starts hitting his head.

Speaker 1 You don't want the quarterback who's just hitting their head and doing this. That's usually a sign that something is going horribly wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when you have to send the quarterback to the blue tent because he's trying to hear,

Speaker 1 he's trying to concussion. He jostled his brain too much because he's trying to hear the play.
Not good. So Jordan Love today in that, to put a bow in that Steelers game, he finished with 360,

Speaker 1 three touchdowns, no picks, completed 20 straight at one point. Thought he needed it.
Thought it had been kind of an underwhelming Jordan Love year.

Speaker 1 And then on the flip side, I think this has been a gravy season for Rodgers. I thought he was pretty good today.
He was under duress the whole time.

Speaker 1 I thought he was pretty creative and it's certainly a little better than we ever could have expected with him. I just don't think that's a very good team.
This game was not his fault.

Speaker 1 The defense is going to be a problem.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he would have taken this gig if he knew the defense was going to be so lackluster, right? Give up between 35 and 40 a game.

Speaker 1 I will say, though, Rodgers, mouthing effing cocksucker, losing his mind, you know, in the first half, like while wearing the bumblebee, half bumblebee, half traffic sign costume.

Speaker 1 It was kind of pretty funny. So

Speaker 1 he does have the mid-40s dad golf luck now.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, the passes, like, somebody should have caught the interception. They drop it.
It's like

Speaker 1 the dad hitting the ball down the

Speaker 1 hits the tree and bounces in the fairway. Basically, all the breaks Dixon gets.

Speaker 1 Ravens Bears was the other AC North game. That's not fair, baby.
I'm killing the ball right now.

Speaker 1 So, Ravens had their first win in six weeks.

Speaker 1 This was a tough Caleb game, and I don't feel like the stats properly reflected it.

Speaker 1 It was one of those, you actually had to watch the game, like some of the red zone stuff, the intentional grounding he took, the way he was missing some guys, and there's just a general lack of craftsmanship/slash

Speaker 1 something

Speaker 1 with him. And I had theorized, I had the fantasy fantasy guys on my podcast on Tuesday.
We did one crazy prediction at the end of the pod, like the craziest thing you could think of.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Tyson Bajant's the bears quarterback in week 13. And we're like, whoa.

Speaker 1 But I was watching this game thinking, like, if they had a better quarterback performance, I think they could have beaten Baltimore today. And he wasn't good enough.

Speaker 1 You just got that from today because I think he's been

Speaker 1 every week. Yeah, and he's benefited because Chicago's pulled more turnovers this year than they have

Speaker 1 through seven weeks and they had like all last year or something.

Speaker 1 So maybe mask the fact that, you know, Caleb Williams is not performing with some good receivers and a good running back and a good tight end and everything else that they set him up with.

Speaker 1 So I don't know. I would say if you gave Ben Johnson some truth serum right now, like you'd be like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Bill, you're right. What'd you say? Week 13? I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 The case I had for on Tuesday was just that

Speaker 1 they love Bayjant. They signed him to to an extension during the offseason and they went out of their way to talk about how great he is and what a, what an incredible teammate and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And I don't think it would be a benching, but I just, I wonder like if he got dinged up or something.

Speaker 1 And I'm just in the back of my head, I have this scenario where Bajin comes in and you just feel that flip with the new guy.

Speaker 1 But that Caleb, you know, it was Jada Daniels last year. It's Drake May this year from that draft.
And Caleb's never really had his moment.

Speaker 1 And this was the guy that was supposed to be the franchise dude out of all these guys. But I thought, you know, this is a game.
I know it was a kitchen sink game for the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I like the Ravens today, but they, you know, they did have Huntley. And it's a game the Bears, I think, could have stolen.
I thought they were pretty close in that game. They ended up losing by 14.

Speaker 1 We saw Captain Kirk. We saw Snoop Huntley.
We saw the Red Rifle. All the greats really lined up.
Yeah. I don't know.
And then there's, well, listen, the league had to fix it, right, Bill?

Speaker 1 So that the Ravens covered that original Thursday spread that they had. Otherwise, there'd be too many complaints.
30, 16.

Speaker 1 We had a big controversy in our Ringer 107 that you guys talked about in the Sunday pregame.

Speaker 1 The Ringer 107, one of the teams is the fantasy show, and Craig wanted to redo the Ravens pick without Lamar. And we had to explain to him that picks lock in and that's it.
And

Speaker 1 we just basically ridiculed him for about an hour straight. Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, it was kind of adorable.

Speaker 1 Is that a millennial thing? I don't know. It was kind of adorable that he just thought he got a redo.
And then, of course, they win the bet anyway.

Speaker 1 The Bears, how many times were they inside like the 10-yard line in that game where they didn't get anything? Was it three different times? It looked like a bunch.

Speaker 1 And that last one was crazy where the offensive lineman was looking for an, like, they wouldn't snap the ball. They just wouldn't snap it.
And then they had to fly it through the end zone.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, I think they had like first and goal.

Speaker 1 It felt like it was like at the two or three, and they somehow didn't score to

Speaker 1 get it. So

Speaker 1 do we have, do you think, our seven seven

Speaker 1 NFC playoff teams already, if I gave you Philadelphia, Tampa, Seattle, and the Rams,

Speaker 1 and then Detroit and San Francisco, and then Green Bay

Speaker 1 as the seven?

Speaker 1 Wait, say it again? Philly is the only team in the East, right? Philly, Detroit, Green Bay, and the team. Let's give those to the divisions.
We'll do three NFC West teams,

Speaker 1 San Francisco, Seattle, and the Rams, and two in the NFC North, Detroit and Green Bay, and that's just going to be the playoffs. So

Speaker 1 you're saying Minnesota and Atlanta have sufficiently fallen off. Like they don't, they're not getting.
Like if you had to bet that right now, and I gave you door A, these are the seven.

Speaker 1 Door B, anybody else can crash the party. I think I would pick those seven.
Interesting. I've been watching a lot of prices write AI things with Bob Barker giving ridiculous prizes.

Speaker 1 I think you're right. I'll send you a hundred of them and then you'll.
But there's AI prices, right? You'll do nothing else.

Speaker 1 I don't even understand what that is. It's like a bonus with a with a fat guy, yeah, because I think you could take advantage of dead people more if you're AI.

Speaker 1 I don't know what they think now, but yeah, like a fat guy getting like an all-you-can-eat buffet and going nuts. Uh, but anyway, uh, I think that's the I would say that's the seven.

Speaker 1 Washington not sneaking in, my terrible teams not sneaking in. I don't like Minnesota at all.
We don't like Chicago. I mean, we've just run out of teams, and now watch Atlanta screw us.

Speaker 1 So, Green Bay, Tampa, Philly, Detroit. They don't have all the teams up yet.
I was going to try to figure out a good fan duel if that was a parlay. I think that's better than even odds.

Speaker 1 So if you had to pick a party crasher, who would you pick? I can't

Speaker 1 think. I don't like Washington.
I don't like my team. I think there's a slight Chicago case if they could figure, because I feel like they're hanging around these games.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Minnesota, no. I think that too much has happened for them.
It would have to be Chicago. It's not going to be Arizona in the West, right? It's not going to be any of the South teams.
I think it's

Speaker 1 Chicago or Atlanta just eats us up again like they always do.

Speaker 1 But I like the seven. I would take the seven.
I would take that prize,

Speaker 1 the seven you picked up. Well, and then the 49ers lost to the Texans today.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I felt this was one of the ones I liked the most this week because I thought the Niners really.

Speaker 1 smoke and mirrors it last week.

Speaker 1 And then you could do that for a week when you don't have any guys on defense, but then you can just look at the tape and see what they did and go, oh, they're doing this. Okay.

Speaker 1 Stroud looked really good. Great.
Wasn't getting pressure at all. Didn't have Nico Collins.
There was a lot of Woody Marks.

Speaker 1 He had his young receivers, but he just looked like the Stroud from two years ago again. Yep.
And San Francisco's defense

Speaker 1 did not look salvageable to me. And yet I still think they're going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 They're five and three, and I think they can get probably four more wins, maybe five, but they'll be in the nine or 10 range. But

Speaker 1 well, how many more injuries do they suffer, right? Like, I guess like if McCaffrey went out,

Speaker 1 who's like, who's bulletproof at this point?

Speaker 1 As long as McCaffrey doesn't go out, what are we looking at here with San Francisco? Because McCaffrey is the only one. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The defense with homes. Maybe somebody in the offensive line.
I mean, they all have 475 yards and they gained 223. McCaffrey did almost nothing.

Speaker 1 I still would say they're a playoff team because the NFC is weak, but you're right. I mean, Stroud threw it to nine guys, and that really did look like rookie C.J.
Stroud. Yeah, the

Speaker 1 Jalen Noel, I like.

Speaker 1 I think they might have something with him. And I've liked Woody Marks.
I've had him on all my fantasy teams for a couple of weeks, kind of waiting for the moment.

Speaker 1 It feels like there's five or six guys with the exact same body on different teams. And I have most of them, but it's Kamani Vidal, R.J.
Harvey, Woody Marks, Trayvion Henderson.

Speaker 1 There's just a certain prototype running back. You're looking at their bodies? No, they're like these 5'9, 5'10, like power,

Speaker 1 speed, like can catch the ball out of the backfield. There's just all over the place now in the league.

Speaker 1 I think Harvey might be my favorite out of all of them. And Denver unleashed him a little bit today, but it just wasn't that much today.
But yeah, I could see why he might be a fan.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 1 That was tough for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, anyway, Houston got back into it. Kitchen Sink game for them.

Speaker 1 They're not going to catch Indianapolis because I don't think anybody is, but I think they could still, you know. Well, I wonder what they are.
Um, they were minus 400 to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Houston was before the year, no, no, before before this week, and now they are

Speaker 1 wait. I'm sorry, now they're

Speaker 1 not to not make the playoffs. Sorry, yeah, yeah.
And now I can't even find them. Did they take why would they take him off? Is there an injury?

Speaker 1 Probably because

Speaker 1 plus 260 to make it.

Speaker 1 I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 So, who are your seven in the AFC then? If you give me Buffalo and the Pats, one AFC North team, Indianapolis, Denver, and KC, that's five.

Speaker 1 So, then I would, you'd have the Chargers would be lurking. Um, you don't want to give three to the West?

Speaker 1 That's that would be the Chargers would be probably the number one pick. I think so.
Um,

Speaker 1 maybe there's going to be a bad AFC team is what's actually how it's going to play out, I think. Right.

Speaker 1 It'll be like

Speaker 1 Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 Or if it's three in the west and you get two in the east, then you just have the division champs from the north. Oh, yeah, you're right.
Yeah. Yeah, you're always better at this thing.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 So the Chargers would be the seventh then. Yeah, I would think so.
I mean, you should start thinking about who you want to play here.

Speaker 1 I tried to get you going last week, but you're like, no, we're getting a buy. I'm like, all right, whatever.
But if you don't get a buy, you'd rather have the Chargers come to Foxborough than

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 Denver, right?

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What were the favorites? What did the favorites end up today? 10 and 10.

Speaker 1 Including Thursday night, 10 and 2. Include Thursday, yeah.
10 and 2. And didn't didn't last week the favorites crushed? It was the same.
Well, it was 9 and 2. I don't know what was happening.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 What is happening? What's going on? We're making money. Why are we kidding?

Speaker 1 I don't trust this now. The favorites are basically 20 and 4 on Thursdays and Sundays.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't want to say anything because

Speaker 1 they've fixed it a little bit, as I guessed the lines.

Speaker 1 Prematurely, not good. But yeah, it looks like looks like everyone's supposed to win this winning.

Speaker 1 And yet i don't know it's just probably because there's like nine bad quarterbacks out there well we had seven blowouts and um the only one where the underdog blew out somebody was the dolphins over the falcons where we thought we did the pod last week we thought mcdaniel was done right

Speaker 1 he wasn't they came back they actually ran the ball um two was dying I i it's another one you had to see it. Like at one point, Tua, a pass gets tipped in the air and it's up.

Speaker 1 It's like a, it's almost like a jump ball. Yeah.
Two Falcons defenders,

Speaker 1 they're like arguing over who should intercept it and they crash into each other and they drop it. But it was just like one of those games.

Speaker 1 Then there was another one where Bijan Robinson's basically running the ball. Was it either into the end zone or inside the five?

Speaker 1 And his knee hits the ball as he's running and he causes his own fumble. So you had that one.
It was just one of those games.

Speaker 1 But it does did seem like McDana is going going to keep his job tua still looks you know like tua but anyway dancing should keep his job past halloween i mean it's his favorite

Speaker 1 it's got to be his favorite holiday right but so that that's a poetic glasses alone he could try different glasses every day fake glasses so blowout day the broncos killed your team bonics

Speaker 1 who threw for four touchdowns, but also had his typical two overthrows of wide open guys on bombs. I don't know what he's batting on those bombs, but he's got to be like two for 55 this year.

Speaker 1 Your defense just looked awful. But what was interesting, Dak wasn't good.

Speaker 1 That was the first kind of Rocky Dak game of the year, right? You've watched all of them. He was kind of due for that, something like that.

Speaker 1 Every facet of this team was bad. Like the defense, the play calling Schottenheimer.
Who's that? Big John Studd? Yeah, Big John Studd.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace. Yeah.
Legends. Would you slam him? Could you slam him? Would you take that $15,000 check? I could film small John Studd.
Yeah, not Big John Studd. Okay.
But yeah, Dak sucked.

Speaker 1 It was bad. And I don't know why a few of my Cowboy fan friends like loved them this week.
I was like, guys, you know how this goes, right? Raheem was one of them.

Speaker 1 I had some other buddies that I was like, they're like, no, we're going to win this plus three and a half. That's a steal.
I was like, have you seen our defense?

Speaker 1 Did you see it two weeks ago against the against the Panthers? And I think like... people misinterpreted that Denver game against the Giants.

Speaker 1 Like to me, I came out of that like, well, Denver was lucky, but also they scored 33 fucking points in the fourth quarter. Right.
And now they have to go up against my defense, right?

Speaker 1 So, whether Bo Nix figures it out in the first quarter, second, or third, and then they just ran over everything. I mean, you saw your RJ Harvey guy.

Speaker 1 So, um, when you don't have a run defense, that's always fun. But yeah, they were, they were bad.

Speaker 1 I had a lot of Denver stuff, as you know, for the futures with overs and number one seed stuff and alt overs and um to win the division.

Speaker 1 Today was the first day I thought they might actually get to like 12 wins, right?

Speaker 1 When like they're six and two, which is kind of hard to believe because I

Speaker 1 don't even think they've been really that happy with how consistent they've been, especially on defense.

Speaker 1 But right now I have them with four legitimate wins, zero legitimate losses and four either or games. And they're going at Texans, Home Raiders,

Speaker 1 home Chiefs, at Commanders on a Sunday night, which might be like a shit game now, right? Because Washington might be thrown away the season by then.

Speaker 1 At the Raiders in week 14, home Packers, home Jags, at Chiefs, home Chargers, a schedule that just looked a lot harder than I think it does now. You know, they're at the Texans next week.

Speaker 1 Maybe no Nico Collins, maybe he comes back. That's not going to be an easy game, but

Speaker 1 yeah, I think 12 wins is conceivable for them, like a 12 and 5. I mean, I'd be very surprised if they didn't make the play.

Speaker 1 I'd be much more surprised if they didn't make it than if the Chargers didn't make it. Both teams blew out their opponents this week.

Speaker 1 So I think we could compare them equally, but they're minus 355 to make the playoffs. They're too good.
I think that defense is one of, I don't know if there's a scarier defense, right?

Speaker 1 Like people were against them. They had 15 sacks in three games before today.
They constantly pressure the quarterback, right?

Speaker 1 And that's why Dak was rattled and had to take off more than he needed to. And that's going to, that's going to screw with some of the bad quarterbacks they have coming up.

Speaker 1 And everybody does. Everybody's going to play like between three, your team will play like all 18 bad quarterbacks, but

Speaker 1 yeah, everybody. We did that before this season.
That was the case for them. I know.
I know.

Speaker 1 You know, the Pats, we've played, we have seven cross-off teams, if you include Cleveland, which I think is the new cross-off team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the cross-off teams are the Jets, Browns, Tennessee, Miami, New Orleans, Vegas, and Cleveland. None of those teams are making the playoffs.
Oh, we didn't have Cleveland last week?

Speaker 1 No, we've added them right now. That's good.
That's seven. Yeah, that's fine.
The Pats have played six of the seven, and we're five and one against

Speaker 1 the seven crossoff teams. I just, I was thinking about it today.
Like, would you trade the Pat schedule? If someone else could play the Pat schedule, would somebody trade it for a second-round pick?

Speaker 1 Like, coming into this year, like, and I know people like, well, the schedules are made years in advance. Like, yes, except for seven games.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't know if you're playing the fourth-place team in, you know, in the three AFC divisions or

Speaker 1 the NFC outside of it.

Speaker 1 But they're good. I'll give you everything.
I kickstarted maybe again today by tweeting something stupid. What did you tweet? I missed it.

Speaker 1 When he threw the interception, I posted the video and wrote, the B is back, BE.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 he made me P-A-Y big time.

Speaker 1 That Browns defense is good, and he was under siege, and it was a really impressive Drake May game, especially in the third quarter. Garrett was running him off.
Garrett had five sacks. I know.

Speaker 1 May had the worst pass he's had since probably week three

Speaker 1 when he got picked early and just he just went in that mode. I've never seen a quarterback throw the deep ball better than this.

Speaker 1 He doesn't miss ever.

Speaker 1 Like Buddha today,

Speaker 1 he had a step on the guy.

Speaker 1 But when we have a guy down the field and he's got a step, like May hits him in stride, it feels like 90% of the time, not to mention mention all the other stuff, not to mention the running.

Speaker 1 And he's been so smart about not taking hits anymore and sliding and sliding two yards too early now instead of like putting his head down. He's just trying to stay on the field and making plays.

Speaker 1 And I think I watch all the social media stuff after the game, as you know. I like to have the best.
This has been the best part of the season. They show.
Frabel stands in the runway and he

Speaker 1 high fives and hugs every guy coming off. And they show all of it.
And for some reason, it's riveting. Then the post-game speech stuff, and then the press conference stuff.

Speaker 1 They really believe in Drake as like a special guy. Like, they're starting to talk about it pretty openly.
Like, they're like, this guy's the MVP. This guy's amazing.
If we have him, we got a chance.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know. I don't know where this goes.
I don't know what to say either. You're right about all of it.

Speaker 1 When they show the stats, where he has like more 20-plus-yard passes in a game than the other team has points, like it's

Speaker 1 depressing. This shouldn't be happening for you.
You should have a Cleveland Browns situation where you served our six-year penance. Worse than middle and quarterbacks for like 25 years.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 You get right back on the horse. I think it's crazier that there was such like adamant debate about him heading into that draft.
Yeah. So now, yeah, I know.
The hens and everybody redrafting.

Speaker 1 No, but some people heading into that draft,

Speaker 1 some people are like, this guy's going to be a bust.

Speaker 1 This guy's like Mitch Trubisky. He has the tools.
He's not going to be able to put it together. And

Speaker 1 I was all in. I really

Speaker 1 was all in on him, but he's way better than I thought.

Speaker 1 To be this good at this age with this few games and to be this dramatically better than you were a year ago when you had no coach, no weapons, no blocking.

Speaker 1 You know, they don't have the greatest blocking, but it's okay. The weapons are better, and he's just way smarter about everything.
What could I say? He would have had 700 yards against the

Speaker 1 least. No, I did, because they were the second half bet.
They were definitely that. That was the way to play it, I thought.
And yeah, they were rock solid, and he's great.

Speaker 1 I don't even know, you know, the fact that you moved on from Mac Jones, like other teams would have stayed with him another seven years and he's fine, but that's what you would have had.

Speaker 1 You would have had fine.

Speaker 1 He was sacked six times and he had a bad pick and it just didn't matter.

Speaker 1 He's third for MVP. Now it's like a three-man race for MVP.
There's no Jonathan Taylor momentum.

Speaker 1 Although I think this week it'll be the talking point because it was a pretty boring week for the most part.

Speaker 1 So the next 48 hours will be about why can't jonathan taylor be the mvp right i'm telling you guys jonathan taylor and it's just not happening running backs don't win the mvp and he's not going to win the mvp and he could have two touchdowns every game which is basically what he's doing it's not going to happen he's not winning mvp he's got the barkley buzz from last year right in terms of like the running back that's in some years you and i have fallen for it and we've done the segment but i'm not doing it anymore they don't win no i don't quarterbacks win i will say this when they kept showing the stat like this is the first time a running back has had three consecutive games with three plus touchdowns against the same team i would be like shut up i don't want people to know that i'm just beating up on the titans here right

Speaker 1 i'm doing good things otherwise but to your point about drake may could this be like a russell westbrook year where they give it to not a top two seed I mean, we're kind of due for that, aren't we?

Speaker 1 And the same guys win over and over. We saw Mahomes at 15 wins last year and didn't get any votes.
I know his stats weren't good, but

Speaker 1 I think the Bills can win the division and Drake May can win MVP. I really do.
I think that's in the cards right now.

Speaker 1 Well, the question for me is, why couldn't they be a one or a two seed with their schedule? And

Speaker 1 they're six and two.

Speaker 1 So could they go seven and two the rest of the way?

Speaker 1 six and three gets them to 12 and five. Yeah, with that.
Yeah, sure. It's conceivable.
I'll be interested. When's the the trade deadline? It's coming up, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's was it the week after Halloween, or was that that? Yeah, it's right around there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't, I'll be interested to see if they mess with the team because I think the chemistry is great. All of them are talking about like they play for each other, we love each other.

Speaker 1 It's one of those teams, and I think it's legit. A lot of it has to do with the guys Brabo went after in the offseason.

Speaker 1 He went after like all these character dudes, like Spillane and Matt Collins, and just these guys that and they draft Will Campbell, all these like just teammate guys.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if they're going to mess with that, but I still feel like

Speaker 1 they, I like the offensive line, that would be the thing that I think sinks them ultimately. Because they, they just have these stretches where they just feel like they're under siege.

Speaker 1 And May has been so good, he's been hiding some of it, but that would be my biggest. If you get a veteran lineman in there, I don't think it's going to crush team chemistry.
I think you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about somebody else now? Let's talk about your team.

Speaker 1 Wait, we did. What are you talking about? We did.

Speaker 1 Blowout number three was Eagles Giants. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Poor Scataboo. Can't the Giants fans have nice things? Do they have to pay for the sins of the two Super Bowls that never should have won for the rest of their lives?

Speaker 1 This is just how it goes for them now.

Speaker 1 It's not their fault that their team won one Super Bowl because of a helmet catch and the other because of an intentional grounding in the end zone that's never been called before or since and 19 other terrible calls.

Speaker 1 And then Eli makes his one throw to Manningham.

Speaker 1 that's somehow going to get him in the Hall of Fame and we had Gronk playing with you know whatever his injury was and yeah um I don't even I feel bad for the Giants fans now yeah I don't um do we have them as a cross-off do we we didn't have them last week did we they're a cross-off we have seven cross-offs we have jets both new york teams yeah

Speaker 1 oh I don't have them as a cross-off we did we didn't have them because

Speaker 1 they we thought they had some juice yeah and it's not that no more Like, things will be different. They'll be good next year, right? With Scatabo, neighbors, if,

Speaker 1 you know, Jackson Dart doesn't kill himself, I think they'll be good. But,

Speaker 1 you know, I'm not going to complain about the tush push. It was 180-yard difference in the game and the Eagles had 10 more first downs.

Speaker 1 But for God's sakes, are they just going to wait until everyone outside of Philly throws a remote through their television to get rid of this dumb thing?

Speaker 1 It's not placeable. What are they doing? It's got to go.
It's got to go.

Speaker 1 No one can win the division otherwise. I got to push back on your Giants thing a little bit.
What is this? Because I think it's been a fun story.

Speaker 1 People like DARP, people like Scataboo, Neighbors comes back next year. They have good pass rush.
They have one of the worst run defenses in the recent history of the league.

Speaker 1 They were giving up 5-2 a game before the game today. And today they gave up, I don't know, like seven.

Speaker 1 For all this money and capital and draft pick stuff that they've spent on this front four,

Speaker 1 you can just ram it down their throats. Now, their linebackers are terrible.
And I was thinking, like, it's almost like you hire

Speaker 1 the best chef ever for your restaurant, and then you just get cheap with the waiters and the busboys.

Speaker 1 And that's kind of what they've done with the linebackers and the D-Backs. It's like, cool, you have an awesome chef.

Speaker 1 Your servers are just dropping the food every time they bring the food out to the table. So congrats.
Well, they're congratulating this great chef.

Speaker 1 We saw the hard knocks or whatever that was called of the inner workings of the GM and stuff. So yeah, they kind of maybe even lucked into how good or talented they are right now.
But right now,

Speaker 1 the only thing Giants fans, the only saving grace is you can watch Brian Dayball, who's just hilarious on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 I mean, he is, every time they go to him, he's pulling a Costanza, just getting freaked out, pissed off, like they can't fire me. Look how mad I am.
And it gets better and better and better.

Speaker 1 Fighting headset. He should start stress eating during the games.
They just cut to him and he's just like fucking eating french fries and bright red, going nuts.

Speaker 1 The Saquon roller coaster for fantasy owners breaks off the long touchdown. You feel like he's headed for the 300-yard game, then gets the groin injury in the third quarter.
So that happened.

Speaker 1 But anyway,

Speaker 1 I mean, they played two weeks ago. The Giants and probably beat them in another dumb Thursday night game, which we've just had a slew of.
So it seemed pretty.

Speaker 1 Pretty realistic that the Eagles were going to get the revenge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of people like taking the seven and a half today, but I'm like, all right, you believe in the revenge factor for Aaron Rodgers for, you know, leaving a team he threatened to leave 25 times, but you don't believe in Philadelphia two weeks later, the better team.

Speaker 1 But I think the thing is, Philly, if we want to talk about Philly for a second, like they, their differential is plus five going in, right? And now they're six and two. Like, so that's

Speaker 1 as far as the six and two and five and three teams, I don't put them at the top of the list of teams I trust. I'll say that.
Yeah, so we have Indy 7-1.

Speaker 1 We have New England, Denver, Philly, Tampa,

Speaker 1 Seattle, and the Rams

Speaker 1 as our six and two teams. What's Green Bay? Did you say Green Bay? Or the Rams are, I guess, our 5-2.
I think I screwed that up. Oh, and then Green Bay is 5-1-1 because they tied your stupid team.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's interesting. Denver, Seattle, and New England were my three favorite overs.

Speaker 1 You're going to get there. I could get there with all of them.
Get there by Chris. You mentioned the defenses before.
Seattle, I think, has a defense that stands out.

Speaker 1 Houston,

Speaker 1 Denver,

Speaker 1 Cleveland at home. I don't think they can do it on the road.
Is there any other defense you like?

Speaker 1 It's kind of it, right? Houston's defense is really good. I thought they were good Monday night.
I thought they were really good today. Cowboys are pretty good.
No, that's it. That's Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Jacksonville, it might have been a lot of bells and whistles, right? I mean, another team that just forced turnovers, but it might be catching up to them now. Maybe the Chiefs, we'll see when they get

Speaker 1 as the season goes along. They always go.

Speaker 1 Another blowout, Bills Panthers.

Speaker 1 Look, Buffalo hadn't kicked anyone's ass in seven weeks, and this was due. I actually liked the Panthers for Ringer 107.
House talked me out of it.

Speaker 1 Pointed out how their Buffalo was coming off two losses in a bye week. We talked it out.
It was good conciliary stuff from House.

Speaker 1 The legacy of this game,

Speaker 1 somehow Andy Dalton was worse than Kirk Cousins, and Kirk Cousins was bad.

Speaker 1 Andy Dalton was worse. That might have been it.
I could see him, that could be the last star for him. The only thing he can't do here is take a sack.
Oh, and he takes a sack. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 Two fumbles. He had a really bad pick.
He just was bad. They were hanging around in this game for about an hour.
Right. And it just wasn't going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was a, we should have made all our money off this game, right?

Speaker 1 Like, you know, there's not a better spot for a playoff team having lost twice, coming off a buy, and here's Andy Dalton for them.

Speaker 1 Buck Saints was a blowout because of nothing that the Bucs offense did.

Speaker 1 Baker finally had a bad fantasy game. I think his MVP run, it's not dead, it's in a coma.

Speaker 1 But somehow they're six and two with a buy coming. Rattler.

Speaker 1 So he was awful again. Six turnovers in his final three halves as Saints QB.
And they finally turned it over to Shuck.

Speaker 1 He's a final three half. That's it.
Probably is. It's final three halves.
Final three halves. I don't think we see him again unless there's an injury.
But

Speaker 1 yeah, that was another one. Like, just stay away.
Don't bet this game. I was hoping Tyler Shuck would have do something there, throw a touchdown at the end.

Speaker 1 There's just so we could like just have something with New Orleans, have some fun with their name.

Speaker 1 Who's the group that roots for Tyler Shuck? Is it the Shuckheads or the Mother Shuckers or the Shuck Heads? Mother Shuckers. yeah yeah

Speaker 1 i like the shuckheads shuckhead we'll see if he's even around it was a really awful early slate because it was late afternoon right well yeah yeah i'm saying but there was a really awful early slate and it was like well maybe the late slate would be better and then the late slate was bad too early slate i had there were seven games i had the six six the multi-view and two other tvs so i had six i didn't want to watch i didn't care about jet spangles i'm like that's the sacrifice

Speaker 1 And that turned out to be the best game. You had to get it back on.
Yeah. That was the best short.
And then Indy, Tennessee somehow ended up as a four o'clock game.

Speaker 1 Like they, that snuck in, should have been a London game.

Speaker 1 Not even London worthy. Like, what's a terrible city in like Coventry or something?

Speaker 1 Like the first Scotland game ever. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Terrible. Well, let's talk about that Colts game because

Speaker 1 that's their fifth blowout win.

Speaker 1 Like real blowouts, like like where the game is like done in the third quarter kind of blowouts. And

Speaker 1 it just feels like they're answering every challenge you would have for, can you actually be the one seed?

Speaker 1 Every they have the long balls. I didn't even think Jones played that well for the first part of the game today, but Taylor was great.
Pierce had his one long play. Pierce.

Speaker 1 Pierce is the most interesting deep threat. We were talking about today, watching the games, where it's almost like in basketball when

Speaker 1 a point guard gets into the paint and has somebody on their hip, and then they lean in and they use their body.

Speaker 1 They use that step they have on the guy to kind of to keep the momentum and they'll either get a foul and an end one. Pierce will do that on a 45-yard pass.
He'll get a step on a guy.

Speaker 1 He'll veer into the guy's path. He'll slow up a little bit.
He'll also make the catch. But he's kind of the most unconventional deep threat in the league.

Speaker 1 And then Warren on top of everything else, they just have a lot of weapons. I'm sold on them as a one-seed, yeah.
I like them a lot, too.

Speaker 1 There's not, and you know what, we shouldn't put too much praise on any team that just beat up on the Titans, but they took everybody.

Speaker 1 No, they did, and Jonathan Taylor should have been minus 600 to score today. He's just excellent.
I want to say something about the Titans coach, they're down 17-7.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God! And they punt on fourth and fourth

Speaker 1 from the 44, Mike McCoy.

Speaker 1 Now, even if you want to punt there,

Speaker 1 what is the downside of going for it? If you want to keep this job, don't you want like a three and four plays the way you're, yeah, I converted the fourth and four. They show them on the sideline.

Speaker 1 So, what if you don't convert? You're not going to be there and getting, you know, colon plays next year. Take a chance.
It's not even a chance, fourth and four from the 44. Draw them off sides.

Speaker 1 It was awful. Kim Ward was mad about it.
Yep. So they play at the Steelers next week.

Speaker 1 Home Falcons. This is the Colts.
Home Falcons.

Speaker 1 Bye week at the Chiefs, home Texans.

Speaker 1 And that Falcons game is in Berlin, just FYI. I like the Steelers game as a test for them at Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh doing all their dumb tricks. Pittsburgh needs the game.

Speaker 1 You know, you figure Baltimore is going to win. There's going to be a little pressure finally on Pittsburgh.
They're going to be playing all the hits. Bosmore will be hitting his 59-yard field goals.

Speaker 1 There'll be some stupid Aaron Rodgers tip pass that'll go for 40 yards. Taylor or somebody will have some sort of fumble.

Speaker 1 It'll be all the check marks you need. And I want to see how they respond.
I want to see what Daniel Jones looks like in that game. I think so, too.

Speaker 1 But I won't count them out even if they lose this, right? Like you read their schedule. That's a nice test.
There's not one team they should be scared of at this point.

Speaker 1 Well, are they favored every game the rest of the year except for at Chiefs week 12? Well, I'm not going to give you a game.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to give you a freebie this week and tell you if they're favored or not. All right, that's fair.
You tell me. That's fine.
I think they could be favored.

Speaker 1 By the way, they could even be favored in that Chiefs game. Stranger things have happened.
So, anyway, they took care of business. And then,

Speaker 1 oh, and then we talked about Dolphin. Oh, and then the last one was Jet Spangles.
Just

Speaker 1 a lot, probably had the most storylines of all the games.

Speaker 1 Jets owner takes a shot at Justin Fields. He played pretty well from what I read because I refused to watch this until the last four minutes.
Aaron Glenn got off the Schneider. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Zach Taylor

Speaker 1 maybe threw in his hat in the next coach fired ring?

Speaker 1 I mean, that was as bad a call as any with 38 seconds left. They still need, what, 18, 20 yards to get in field goal range at the end and first down calls right up the middle

Speaker 1 for a no gain. And I think they didn't have three touches.
They had two timeouts, I think. So, yeah, he's always in the ring.
I just think like Burrow kind of saves this guy every time.

Speaker 1 Not one run they had, I think. People just look back and point to.
Right.

Speaker 1 Which I don't know how long he gets to ride on that one. But

Speaker 1 yeah, look, we say this all the time. That could have been one where, if you're a Jets fan, maybe

Speaker 1 you wish you didn't win that game in January. You're like, why are we three and 14 and we don't have the number one pick? Oh,

Speaker 1 well, that's you got to get

Speaker 1 you got to get it for Aaron Glenn. You got to have to get a win before Thanksgiving.
It's crazy. And the fact that he went for it down, what was it? It was like 38.

Speaker 1 It was 38.24 and he went for two, right? And he got it to get it there and barely got it, by the way.

Speaker 1 Like, I still haven't seen a replay where he definitively got it, but that was a great Fields play. And even like Fields, like very emotional after the, in the press conference afterwards.

Speaker 1 So good for the Jets. Now they could go back to being the Jets.

Speaker 1 Really good post-game speech from a comedy standpoint by Glenn,

Speaker 1 which, of course, I watched. He started out and he's like,

Speaker 1 First of all, how about that defense? And it's like,

Speaker 1 with that big stop.

Speaker 1 It's like, well you gave up 38 points 39 38 and then he's like in our offense 500 yards they're like yeah and he's like this is who we are this is our identity what you saw today and it's like i don't know maybe maybe you also should have lost by 10.

Speaker 1 i really i really like those how about our defense yeah you did get a stop you got one one stop

Speaker 1 would you i mean what's the converse he goes in there i was like man we are so lucky we should be 0-15. How do we pull this one out? We're so terrible.

Speaker 1 I think you should have to, it should be like when you have a, you're on a bad AYSO team or a bad Little League team. It's like, everyone's getting ice cream.

Speaker 1 You should be like, he's got 11-year-olds.

Speaker 1 So proud of you guys.

Speaker 1 A poker tournament when you're beat 98 to 2%,

Speaker 1 but you like pull a flush on the last three cards. And the guy who wins is like,

Speaker 1 sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like he apologizes for the win. A tennis player, like, it hits the net and barely goes over.
Like,

Speaker 1 we're good. We're good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you learn from that Chargers Vikings Thursday night game? Anything?

Speaker 1 I love the Chargers in that spot. I don't know.
I learned that the Vikings.

Speaker 1 So I think they're plus 770 to make the playoffs now, and they really have nowhere to go. Cause now you're looking at J.J.
McCarthy, and you covered it last week. What kind of injury is this anyway?

Speaker 1 And you don't have anything to look forward to after Wentz, really, right? Pretty tough, yeah.

Speaker 1 Regular season MVP:

Speaker 1 Mahomes

Speaker 1 plus 150, Allen plus 350, Drake May now, plus 450.

Speaker 1 Everybody else is 12 to 1 or higher, and then uh, Super Bowl odds, Chiefs still the favorites, Lions, Bills, Packers, Eagles, Colts down 11 to 1, but still have not gone in a single digits yet,

Speaker 1 which I thought was uh strange

Speaker 1 from a value standpoint.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 I mean, the Pats are 33 to 1 and really have a chance to be a two seed. It just, that seems too high.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're going to win the Super Bowl, but I think if you can get anybody who can possibly be a two seed

Speaker 1 at 33 to 1, it has to be considered. And then Seattle at 25 to 1 was the other one that jumped out to me.
What's bad? That also seems too high. 22?

Speaker 1 Almost 25. They're 22 now after the...
after the win. That's interesting too.

Speaker 1 Maybe if they're actually favored to win the division, get their shit together. But I think as

Speaker 1 far as those odds, an MVP, your guy, your team, and your guy is the only ones that are going to shrink considerably. Because the case for it is,

Speaker 1 and I don't want to jinx it. I'm obeying all jinxing laws.
The case is people haven't looked at your freaking schedule. And now, and then they're just going to see the wins rack up.

Speaker 1 It's the schedule, but it's also the history of the league with young QBs.

Speaker 1 We've seen this happen, right? And if he's really special, like if there's something really, really special there, we've seen that translate into, oh, my God, I can't believe they're here this fast.

Speaker 1 It happened with Burrow. It happened with Mahomes recently.
And if he's on that level, it's realistic that they could at least get to the AFC title game because he's that good.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's that good, but he certainly checked every button.

Speaker 1 You put him number five. You put him number five right now, best quarterback.

Speaker 1 And you don't even want to put Burrow ahead of him at this point.

Speaker 1 I think he's playing the best of anyone at that position right now. I don't know if that means he's the best quarterback, but I've just watched it for five straight weeks.

Speaker 1 He completes 75 to 80% of his passes. He runs for first downs, whatever he wants, and he completes every deep ball.
I don't know what else you can do as the quarterback.

Speaker 1 He doesn't miss throws really ever. When he misses a throw, you're surprised.
His teammates love him. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know what's going on. It doesn't make a lot of sense because even week one, that Vegas game, he was not good.
and it was like fuck did we go backwards what's going on here and now

Speaker 1 in week eight he looks like this is like he looks like a finished product and I know he's not he's 23 22 discounting the past right yeah

Speaker 1 would you rather have Daniel Jones or Drake May forget about what you know about Daniel Jones before the before this year before if you forget about it what what you knew the giants daniel jones because you can make the same case of everything you said about drake may daniel jones is doing it too maybe not as great deep throw daniel Jones looks great.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, May,

Speaker 1 it just, it looks a lot like some of those other great guys

Speaker 1 when it just happens early. I mean, going way back to when we were kids, Elway,

Speaker 1 like, what was that, year three or year four, all of a sudden they were in the AFC title game and it was like, Jesus, we're here already. Marino got there as a rookie in Miami.

Speaker 1 If a really great quarterback, if it happens early, it's not unusual.

Speaker 1 That would be the case.

Speaker 1 Take a look at Elway's stats this first few years even though even when everyone thought he was great it's always like it was like 22 touchdowns 17 interceptions you know you're not going to see that as at a drake i shouldn't have engaged you in this this is no but here's the thing about those stats because i've looked at those

Speaker 1 it's so unfair to compare them versus now because you could beat the out of those guys well you beat their share the receivers but you could also

Speaker 1 you could kill the quarterback after they threw it you could dive at their legs like they're like navigating their livelihood at the same time as they're trying to to win games and now these guys even saw today there was what was that time

Speaker 1 who got hit love was in sunday night game like love got kind of hit a little bit on the head as he threw and he was like looking at the ref like this like that oh right right yeah the football we grew up with these guys were getting annihilated yeah you couldn't come you you can't come near the head anymore you couldn't throw over the middle

Speaker 1 you had to fear for your life guys were trying to pile drive you into the ground i just so i look at those oway stats i'm like that's amazing that he even was able to play 16 games a year or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can we, before we go on, because you mentioned love and it made me think of this, the replay assist thing,

Speaker 1 I don't buy it. I don't think it's even a real thing.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's a real thing. I think the refs get together and they'll be like, we fucked up this call.
Let's pretend.

Speaker 1 Some ominous voice came in and told us that they don't even have to go to replay. And then that doesn't make us look bad.
It doesn't make us look good. We'll just move on immediately.

Speaker 1 I think that's what it is. Doesn't exist.
They just call it something. Interesting.
It's just,

Speaker 1 it's like they're just doing a little mini podcast. Yeah.
One of the refs rolled his eyes to the other ref and he was like, okay, that's all right. You're right.
That wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 When they, that offsides play, when they gathered together after that. Yeah, that would have been bad.
Yeah. And who is it? Pereira was like, yeah, I've never seen this before.

Speaker 1 If they call it belated offsides, there's no way.

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Guess the lines, week eight. I am up four to three.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. Five, three.
It's week nine. Yeah.
Oh, week nine, five, three. Thursday night, Ravens at Miami.

Speaker 1 Hey, can I say something? You did that well.

Speaker 1 People are complaining, like important people that listen to this show, that you're not saying

Speaker 1 who the home team is and who the road team is. That time you did it.
Good job by bullshit. I say it all the time.
These people can fuck off. Yeah.
Oh my God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If I would have told you who is former President Obama actually put in the complaint and you're telling him to fuck off. No, it wasn't.
It's not him. It's not him.

Speaker 1 But okay, you know, you did good there. That's it.
That's how you do it. If it was Gavin Newsom, he could fuck off again.

Speaker 1 Ravens, Miami, at Miami. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I couldn't have crammed this harder and more violently into the Vegas zone. I have Ravens minus five and a half.

Speaker 1 You're going to win this week. I'm telling you right now, I was so off on these.
I said five, it's seven and a half. Oh, that's too high.

Speaker 1 Well, too many favorites are covering.

Speaker 1 But it's a Thursday night game, though. They have to cover themselves.
Yeah, that's true. That's too high for a Thursday night.

Speaker 1 Lamar's just going to waltz back in after during a whole whatever scandal, injury report scandal. I still don't understand the scandal.
Sunday Marquee, we finally have a Sunday marquee game.

Speaker 1 Bills, Chiefs. It's in Buffalo.
Good one.

Speaker 1 Tic-Tac,

Speaker 1 Bills minus one and a half. How's that sound? Sounded good to me.
It's exactly what I said. It's Chiefs minus one and a half.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Wow. It's Tic-Tac, all right.
But that's going to flip, right? Six times between now and when we next talk. The Bills had their D-linemen all back finally.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they were were actually having an impact against the Panthers running backs. And then Ed Oliver got hurt.
It lasted like an hour and a half. And then Ed Oliver got hurt.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think what would be the best overreactions coming out of this Chiefs-Bills game. Chiefs win.

Speaker 1 Overreaction is Mahomes is back.

Speaker 1 It's been Mahomes' league all along. Anyone who said Allen was the best QB, you must feel fucking stupid.
Right. Why did we doubt the Chiefs ever? Let's never do that again.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Bills win. This is Josh Allen's league.

Speaker 1 He's outplayed Mahomes for the last two years.

Speaker 1 This rivalry's flipping. It's like the Patriots Colts in the mid-2000s when all of a sudden the Colts started being the Patriots.
What else? Chiefs have trouble scoring.

Speaker 1 I imagine if they lost, it would be like 23-20 or something. Take too long to score, all that shit.
These receivers didn't actually pan out. The ones that came back, everything.

Speaker 1 chris jones getting old yeah he's not the impact guy that he was two years ago yeah this will be good there'd be some good overactions coming up taylor bad voodoo yeah all of it the watchables would you put pats in new england against the falcons a watchable or a fairly watchable

Speaker 1 oh we're done with um

Speaker 1 see i would have put indie pittsburgh as uh what's that before fairly watchable i think that's no i mean i had three watchables including pats falcons but i didn't know if that was a watchable just for me i think just for you you could watch you You could watch it if you want.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm going to move it to fairly watchables. Trying to obey.

Speaker 1 You know, it is watchable.

Speaker 1 Colts at Pittsburgh,

Speaker 1 which would have been the Sunday marquee game in a lot of other weeks. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's in the early slate, too.

Speaker 1 So, Packers, Packers were favored by three in Pittsburgh this week. I think the Colts are a point better than the Packers.
I'm going to go Colts minus four. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 I thought they were a point worse power rating-wise. I said two, and it's two and a half.

Speaker 1 Let me see if that's changed. Oh, it's three now.
Shit.

Speaker 1 I can't catch a break. So we pushed? We pushed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I could have lied there.

Speaker 1 I think that's fair. That's right.

Speaker 1 I like the Colts.

Speaker 1 Unless. We haven't had it yet, the Daniel Jones, oh no, game.

Speaker 1 It's lurking in there.

Speaker 1 You You know,

Speaker 1 it's deep down in the recesses of

Speaker 1 his cells and his DNA. You know, it's somewhere in there.
Well, I'll tell you what the Steelers need. They need some weather and they kind of need it fast, right?

Speaker 1 If it's going to be like clean pockets and just brisk air at the end of October, like I don't know if they could. Daniel Jones should have a good game.

Speaker 1 They need some of those 18-16 games to come back.

Speaker 1 Broncos home. Oh, no, Broncos at Houston.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 as we said, probably two of the three best defenses, two of the best four defenses.

Speaker 1 And I have the Broncos favored. And I think it's in the tick-sack zone.
I'm going to go Broncos minus one and a half.

Speaker 1 I said Broncos minus two. It is Broncos minus one and a half.

Speaker 1 I thought that was a pretty easy one. Good call.

Speaker 1 Does that go to two and a half by Sunday?

Speaker 1 I think if anything moves, it's to the over-under, which is 39.5, which in this day and age, yeah, I think it's one of the few that'll go down after, by the way, a lot of the overs hit today, too, right?

Speaker 1 What was that also nine and two? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a really good game. I mean, that's

Speaker 1 that could be the 2-7

Speaker 1 Shaky's game.

Speaker 1 2-7. Denver games.
That could be our 2-7. Denver if Houston freaks Houston.
Yeah. Right, right.
Let's just see a good version of Houston. Can we do that? Can we see that two weeks in a row?

Speaker 1 Fairly watchables. Patriots home for the Falcons.

Speaker 1 And no idea if Pennex is playing. I think this has to go past the minus four into the Vegas zone.
And I have Pat's minus four and a half. All right, that's what I had, and it's five and a half.

Speaker 1 Oh, still in the Vegas zone. Okay.

Speaker 1 You should be a seven-point favorite, probably, really, if you think about it. Kicking the crap at everyone.
Pat's money line was something in the seven range. Oh, call it a day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, you could use the Chiefs again just because it's Monday,

Speaker 1 just because it's a different week, technically. Oh, do the lookout.

Speaker 1 So who were the teaser teams that killed people today? It was the. Just the Falcons.
And the Bengals, right? If you had the...

Speaker 1 That was like six and a half. Putting the Bengals in a tease.
You need your head examined. That's insane behavior.
Didn't have a lot of wins before today.

Speaker 1 I know, but you can't put the bengals in a tease

Speaker 1 but those are the only two i think yeah

Speaker 1 so there's a really interesting pat stat

Speaker 1 their run defense hasn't given up over 50 yards rushing yet in the first eight weeks and it hasn't happened since 1950.

Speaker 1 wait a minute nobody can run on them a 50 yard rusher you're saying yeah yeah yeah okay yeah since 1950 wow um and i mentioned that because bijan's coming in week nine, coming off a bad game that he was pissed off about.

Speaker 1 And the quotes after were like, that one's on me. Right.
Blah, blah, blah. I got to do better.
So it's just, it'll be an interesting

Speaker 1 rock in a hard place kind of battle because the Pats' defense has been awesome against the run.

Speaker 1 The way to beat them is to throw in their linebackers, put Spillane in open space, try to get running backs or tight ends over the middle or running backs leaking out of the back.

Speaker 1 That's been the weakness, but you can't run on them. No, you just jinxed the bejesus out of him, the bejanas out of him, I think.
So I'm going over here.

Speaker 1 What we have, well, I wonder what his total will be. Any wheel route with him one-on-one against Spillane is going to end badly.
And I'll just tell you, our crazy friend Hench,

Speaker 1 eight weeks, probably 135 techs about Robert Spillane and pass coverage. What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Basically, anytime he's in pass coverage, it's a three text barrage from Hench.

Speaker 1 It's hard when you have a bodybuilder trying to guard third-down running back.

Speaker 1 Just enjoy it, Hench. For God's sakes, this is as good as it gets for real.

Speaker 1 This is about as Zen-like as he's been. Like, we went from not having a QB or a coach to having a QB and a coach.

Speaker 1 The only two things that matter in the NFL is having a QB and a coach. You can find everything else.
Does this move cousins? If Cousins plays, could this go to seven?

Speaker 1 I mean, it should have a chance. They don't have a chance.

Speaker 1 No, Drake London today, but I bet he plays next week, right? Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Lions home, Detroit

Speaker 1 against the Minnesota Vikings, either Carson Wentz, who's been pounded like a piece of veal the last couple weeks,

Speaker 1 or the immortal J.J. McCarthy, who's recovering from the longest high ankle sprain in recorded history.

Speaker 1 This could be our teaser game with the Pats. I have Lions minus eight.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 they're not going to let us tease tease it the way we want to do it. I said seven and a half, it's nine and a half.
Now, that's dumb. You win that one too.
You're up six, three. That's too high.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I wouldn't take Minnesota. No, I know, but first of all, this is the only division game.
Isn't that weird? Like, when was the last time we had one division game in a week? Right.

Speaker 1 In a whole week, four teams off, but anyway.

Speaker 1 And for that reason, I thought they give them the division discount, like where everybody plays everybody else. Well, so this is this is pretty damn high vandals giving up on minnesota here

Speaker 1 you know house and i we did ringer 107 last week or thursday and we're talking about that jets line the jets bangles line which was just stupid it was the bangles should have been favored by three and a half and it was six and a half because it was the jets right and it was like you're so if you take the jets you're just getting three free points And I was thinking that's a good just concept in general.

Speaker 1 What's the, what's the three free points bet where they're just like, just

Speaker 1 this is on a discount today. It's a flash sale.

Speaker 1 The Vikings, normally at six and a half. We're giving him today at plus nine and a half for the next 24 hours.
First 100 customers. Damn, I was on the three free points.
I gotta take a different line.

Speaker 1 Vikings, plus nine and a half is a three free points bet. That's a flash sale.
Like, they shouldn't be getting that many points.

Speaker 1 So the problem with the three free points thing is I get what you're saying, but now you're back in a shitty quarterback every single time. That's where the three points are.

Speaker 1 But that's why we have the flash sale. It's like when the Criterion collection is like 50% off our entire collection right now.

Speaker 1 Cars and Lance is in the clearance bin right now.

Speaker 1 Grab them now. It's Robert Altman's unknown movie.

Speaker 1 Packers, Panthers in Green Bay. Oh, I'm going to change my pick on this.
I had minus nine.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bump this because they looked today good at Sunday night came to nine and a half. Packers.
No pumping. No bumping a lot.
I bumped it by a half point. Packers nine and a half.

Speaker 1 You win anyway. I had eight and a half.
It's 10 and a a half

Speaker 1 there's a good old-fashioned bill and sal go to college three-teamer i was thinking about that yeah there's some there's one i was trying to think who would screw up lions packers with the third team

Speaker 1 the glory years of 2004 oh so nice the best 12 weeks of our lives we'll get them back you me pookie black tony albanian bruce we were just all cleaning up

Speaker 1 We had our cleaners. Camon Jones on.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We were just going nuts.

Speaker 1 I want to congratulate us, you and I, for really not falling into just not becoming true degenerates, right? Like we to be like in one of those things. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we bet and it hurts when we lose. We have enough money on it where it sucks when we lose.
And we come on and we're distraught and everything, but we never fell down that hole.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we, we had opportunities to align ourselves with some interesting people. And I'm sure Pablo Torrey will reveal this like Wednesday that we fixed a preseason Clippers game or something.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 good job by us for keeping our heads above water. Well, Thursday, 7.40 a.m., text from my mom.
I hope you and Sal aren't involved in this NBA betting scheme. Exclamation point.

Speaker 1 Did you screw with her a little bit? Say you need bail money?

Speaker 1 I should have texted her back. I can't talk about this right now or just something obvious.

Speaker 1 Mom,

Speaker 1 we have to take this to a phone.

Speaker 1 Call my friend Pookie right now with this number.

Speaker 1 Mom, I'll move Black Tony. Let me get back to you.
Albanian Bruce is going to drive me over. There were two Bruces, right? It was Albanian Bruce, and there was another.
What was the other Bruce?

Speaker 1 I couldn't get enough of it. Yeah, there were two.
There was a Flappy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just couldn't get enough of the name. The week the Bruce Springsteen movie comes out.
What a week for Bruces. It really.

Speaker 1 It couldn't just be Bruce.

Speaker 1 49ers Giants in New York. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yikes. Maybe Brock Purdy for this?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you would think at some point.

Speaker 1 I don't think I hit this. 49ers, I had minus three and a half.

Speaker 1 I get this. I said three, it is two and a half.
Yeah, I couldn't figure that one out.

Speaker 1 Tough one.

Speaker 1 Boy, the Giants just aren't very good. I'm probably leaning toward Niners in that one.
Well, we crossed them off. So, whenever we have a playoff team,

Speaker 1 we think the Niners are making the playoffs, right? And we crossed the Giants off. So, just based on that, 49ers can't keep losing.
Last one is Rams Saints.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to be another flash sale. Oh, all right.
I think this is a seven and a half, but I think we get three free points. I think it's Rams minus 10 and a half flash sale.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is a sale even beyond your wildest dreams. Oh, what is it? So, wait, so so what's your official thing? Minus 10 and a half.
Okay, so you get it. I said nine and a half, 13 and a half.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 50% off.

Speaker 1 You can't keep it on the shelves. This is great.

Speaker 1 Do you want to combine that with a Blu-ray?

Speaker 1 Wow. 13 and a half.
The shuck wagons coming to town. What are you going to do? Come to SoFi.
Do you think there'll be Saints fans there? There's some New Orleans transports, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I think the Rams, you might get

Speaker 1 a rare reprieve here in L.A. where the Rams have more fans.

Speaker 1 Poop Fecta, three games. First one is Bears at Cincinnati,

Speaker 1 which is lining up as Joe Flacco against the embattled Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 somebody's favored by one and a half. I went with the Bears.
It might be the Bengals. It's a one and a half for somebody.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm not going to let you do that. I had Bears minus one and a half.
Oh, Bears minus one and a half. Okay.

Speaker 1 I had Cincinnati minus one. You're going to get it.
It's Bears minus two and a half. Oh.

Speaker 1 I don't agree with that. What were the Bears today?

Speaker 1 Plus six and a half in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 it was plus two and a half. Plus two and a half.
This is a similar thing, I guess, right? But they were plus. I don't know.
This is tough.

Speaker 1 I'm out on the Bears, I think, for a while. Chargers at Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Um, it has to be a touchdown. I think the Pats were minus six in Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Chargers have to be minus seven. That's my pick.
Chargers minus seven in Tennessee. Another flash sale here.
I get this. I said nine.
It's ten and a half. Oh,

Speaker 1 wow.

Speaker 1 You can get a free, free, uh,

Speaker 1 free, what's what are those little cards you put?

Speaker 1 What do we put? I don't know. What do we, we what are the cards we put ss card yeah the flash cards yeah with this thing i could have landed that joke a lot better that's all right

Speaker 1 oh we're live no we're live a hey why don't who screws that up then green bay over carolina chargers over tennessee

Speaker 1 oh come on if harbaugh loses to this i don't like those double digits on the road games no it's fine double digits get with we're taking 10 points off we're good i went to the lakers game on friday against minnesota

Speaker 1 Herbert was there sitting under the basket with Madison Beer. Oh, nice.
And it was the day after

Speaker 1 they beat the Vikings.

Speaker 1 They showed him on the Jumbotron, like mild applause.

Speaker 1 I just don't think the Chargers are resonating in L.A. yet.

Speaker 1 This guy's the star quarterback. He's one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the league, and he plays for an L.A.
team. They're like, there's Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 People are like, they still think he's a college quarterback.

Speaker 1 If they had showed like Flea, the place would have gone nuts. Right.
It's just you know, it's just interesting. Did you see his Halloween photo? Who?

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert. What is it? I don't know.
It's like a photo booth thing. Look it up, Justin Herbert Halloween.
And

Speaker 1 I forget who the receiver is that he's with, and he's with a woman. It's interesting.
Take a look. You'll get a nice little laugh.
Yeah. Can't wait.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 One more game in the Poop Fecta. Jags

Speaker 1 at Vegas.

Speaker 1 And I think the Jags are going to be favored in this one, which would give us all three home underdogs in the poop facta. I have Jags minus two and a half.
Yeah, good call. I said five.

Speaker 1 Why was anyone giving the

Speaker 1 Raiders two and a half? But it's three. You're closer.
Man, you smoked me. You smoked me this week.
Raiders coming off a bye.

Speaker 1 Bowers back.

Speaker 1 A little bit of a kitchen sink game for Vegas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all I can think of. I mean, if the only thing Jacksonville does does right is force turnovers, it should be an easy one.
Sunday night is Seattle at Washington. No Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 House, very bleak on the Ringer Sunday pregame today, talking about how. Very upset.
First of all,

Speaker 1 he's quit our bet. He's already conceded the Patriots' Washington bet.
He was saying the Washington's three and

Speaker 1 what was it, three and four? We're going to be three and seven in three weeks. They should think about trading people, bench sit Daniels for a year, get him healthy.

Speaker 1 Um, they shot their wigtime under six and a half. Just today, he bet him under six and a half.
Yeah, yeah, it was tough. It was tough to hear him just bailing.

Speaker 1 Uh, he should have just listened to us pre preseason. We went against Washington with everything.
He did listen to us, and he bet me on Washington versus the Pats. That's true.

Speaker 1 I have Seattle minus four at Washington. Uh, let me see if this moved.
It is still three, and I had three and a half, so we split it. Oh, no.
No, you win it. I get it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got to take the wins I actually get. You're up 10 to 6.
Doesn't matter. Monday night, Dallas home

Speaker 1 for Arizona, the Rod Tidwall Bowl. I love when Dallas and Arizona plays.
Great times.

Speaker 1 Another Tic-Tac. I went with Dallas favorite in this one, minus one and a half.
Wow.

Speaker 1 You know, I hate my team, but I also think they deserve a little more praise than. one and a half.
I said four and a half, and it's three.

Speaker 1 So we split it, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. And you're going to hear all week about how Kyler Murray has never lost at ATT Stadium.
He played like in college there.

Speaker 1 He played, I don't know, he snuck on there as like a six-year-old and won some kind of game. He's never lost there.

Speaker 1 I want to flag something. So we talked about all the favorites winning covering this week and last week.
Favorites are on a heater.

Speaker 1 I am counting home underdogs this week: Dolphins, Bills, Steelers, Texans, Giants, Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Washington,

Speaker 1 nine home dogs. I think this is an official let's be careful week.
Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Favorites just crushing. Everybody's confidence is up.
All these home dogs, all stuff like Chargers minus 10 and a half at Tennessee. Yeah, throw them in a three-teamer.
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 My shit detector is going off. Well, you were better than me today, but even you were light on everything.
Like, they're juicing everything up. So

Speaker 1 it would make sense that it would come back. Flash sale for Halloween.
So many. Yeah.
Halloween havoc. How many people

Speaker 1 brought up the big NBA scandal to you over the last 72 hours? Everyone I know needed it explained to me. I had explained it to them.

Speaker 1 It really did pass the how many people are texting me that don't normally text me about sports. Right.
It really did cross the threshold. It was pretty funny.
I

Speaker 1 feel bad for you because you and House did like a seven-hour, you know, preseason over-under podcast and the season didn't even last that long. Now they have to cancel the season and it's all over.

Speaker 1 Luca scores a billion points in two games and here you

Speaker 1 are. But yeah, I don't obviously this is bigger than anything we've dealt with in the past, but what are the ramifications? Like, I'll get rid of the other way props.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's not as big as it felt like in the moment, the way it was presented, where they combine these two different stories.

Speaker 1 I think it's just starting dialogue that probably should have been happening anyway. Like some of the stuff House and I talked about Thursday night was the

Speaker 1 just how careful these players have to be with information about themselves and their teams, giving it to the people around them.

Speaker 1 And just

Speaker 1 people making stupid decisions that are attached peripherally to these guys. And I don't know how you police that necessarily, but we certainly hear stuff all the time from all kinds of people, right?

Speaker 1 And you can act on it. You can not act on it, whatever.
But when you're directly tied to a player and you're using information and selling it and leveraging,

Speaker 1 I think this is a real issue for the league. I was talking to people over the weekend about it.
And it's, you know, it's going to take years to kind of play out.

Speaker 1 But the thing that is fascinating is how quickly all the books can sniff it out. Yeah.
Where they know some, oh, what, wait, what's going on with this under?

Speaker 1 Like they just know almost immediately that something's wrong, which I think is a good thing. I think so too.

Speaker 1 Hopefully it acts as a deterrent and people are like, no, the books have us, whether they're using AI or whatever, they're going to be able to snuff this out in a minute.

Speaker 1 But I also, and I think you've said this before, like this has probably been going on for a while, right? But we just test for it now. It's like anything else.

Speaker 1 Like more kids probably had ADHD 30 years ago too, but now we're all over that stuff. We're all over like taking out and looking for player props.

Speaker 1 But the problem is like there's always going to be one or two or five guys who are going to do it. Like gambling's a real addiction.

Speaker 1 It might be guys like, I get it, they do scratch off tickets, even though they've made $40 million,

Speaker 1 you know, just because they have the itch. The other thing.
They competitively want to game the system. That's all.
Right. The other part is guys get in trouble with some bad dudes, right?

Speaker 1 So if you made $40 or $40 million, if you're a million in the hole and you owe the wrong guys and all your money's in like cars and houses and jewelry, and you can't come up with like a million liquid.

Speaker 1 They're going to ask you to, you know, play an under. They're going to ask you to miss some shots.
It just, it's kind of how it is, and it sucks. And you might see some props go away as a result.

Speaker 1 And if that's what it is, so be it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we talked about that Thursday night. How many of these unders we need? Like, do you need to have the under for longest Matthew Golden catch?

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Matthew Golden, longest catch under 15 and a half yards. Like, maybe those those just go away.
Right.

Speaker 1 And maybe it steers more toward the overs and Jordan Love, passing yards and, you know, the big, the big players in each game, whether it's football, basketball, whatever.

Speaker 1 I've never understood the pitch-by-pitch baseball stuff. Oh, that's insanity.
Right. Even

Speaker 1 if you write it. No.
Even you're not like, oh, the top of the eighth, I'm going to bet on a ball. Like, that's like the height of insanity.
I can't think of a single scenario where I would do that.

Speaker 1 I would do it if there was no way I I was going to get caught and I knew my buddy was going to bounce the first pitch into the dirt. That's when I would do it.

Speaker 1 But my brother Brian was on the knee for the Dodgers. He's like, I'm going to fall top of the eighth.
This one's hitting the backstop, but I don't,

Speaker 1 but you have to be smart about it. I'm not going to tell people criminals how to do their job.

Speaker 1 Don't not bet anything else and then just bet $7,000 that the first pitch is going to be a ball in the third inning. You're going to get busted.
Well, what you said about people

Speaker 1 being able to have pressure put on them because of losses,

Speaker 1 I think is something that's happened since the 50s and 60s.

Speaker 1 And this is why the illegal poker game thing, to me, is going to be a much bigger story than a couple of this betting, the couple betting things versus like how deep the poker stuff, because we've both heard so many stories about these games.

Speaker 1 And they have athletes and actors. and musicians,

Speaker 1 billionaires, and they're all competitive. The games are all arranged.

Speaker 1 They always try to have the one person who's got money, who's famous, who thinks he can beat these guys, and the game's rigged against them. And that's where I think things go sideways.

Speaker 1 And there's no way to police that. But I promise you, this has been going on since the 90s with some of these games.

Speaker 1 And this is, by the way, how Jordan got in trouble in the 90s with some of the golf betting when he fell behind by millions with...

Speaker 1 allegedly with that richard isquinas whatever his name was who wrote the book and uh you know this is just these guys are super competitive. No doubt about it.

Speaker 1 And then, so what did Terry Rogier should be forced to play baseball? I mean, what's the, that's what they did to Jordan. I don't know.
Send them out. I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's one where I still don't know what happened with that one. Cause, because

Speaker 1 to me, like, they, like the league checked the MRI and he, he was hurt.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 And, and yet.

Speaker 1 There was so much action on that under and he just left the game after nine minutes. And there's that video of him grabbing his foot and like, could you rig that? I guess you could.

Speaker 1 He's making $26 million a year, though. Like, I just don't understand the upside of that.
Yeah, it was just a one-two punch that. And knowing that LeBron was going to be out.

Speaker 1 And it was like, you know, that was

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 so much to hit everybody with and release right when the season starts, too. Well, the bummer, and a lot of people have made this point, but it was an awesome first week for the NBA.
It was,

Speaker 1 you know, the Wemby storyline was awesome. Some of the games were great.
All the televised games, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday were really good. And then

Speaker 1 I thought Amazon on Friday, like that, I thought it was really cool. You know, it's going to be work in progress.
You have a five-man show that's going to be tough for basketball.

Speaker 1 But the set, the fact that they were going a little more hardcore basketball and it was more celebrating the game, which is what I think people want.

Speaker 1 Between NBC and Amazon, the way they're presenting the game is what people have been asking for for 10 years. Like, we don't want the hot take shit.

Speaker 1 Like, teach us about basketball, give us guys we like, and try to be a little more positive. So, I don't know.
I thought it was a really good week.

Speaker 1 It was a really good week, except for the story that became the story that dominated everything. Did you see this, though, that just came in? What?

Speaker 1 No, now they're saying Wemby is one of the guys who robbed the Louvre.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know. He probably has to sit like two weeks or something.

Speaker 1 They didn't use a crane. It was just Wemby.
It was him.

Speaker 1 Dunk, grab, out.

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What do you got? All right. So wrestling season, even though it's not really here, is here.

Speaker 1 We had, yes, we had a a preseason tournament in Cerritos.

Speaker 1 By the way, you remember Super Dave and the Cerritos commercials? I don't know if you were here yet, but Super Dave would do Cerritos Auto Square. Come to Cerritos Auto Square.

Speaker 1 We're giving these cars away. It was kind of like your discount.
So we had to go to Cerritos. We drive there.
The weigh-ins are Friday night at a satellite location.

Speaker 1 And then the wrestling is Saturday. It starts from like 12.30 and goes till double elimination.
So I take Jack out there. We're driving to Cerritos, not to the auto square, but to the college.
And

Speaker 1 so, and he's starting in the drive, he is breathing very heavily. Like he's like, yeah, he's like starting it, but he won't say like anything's wrong.
So I try to ignore it.

Speaker 1 I like make the radio louder and like finally I like listen to this. I'm like, like he's getting nervous breathing? Getting nervous breathing.
Yeah. And I feel bad for him.
And I'm like, this sucks.

Speaker 1 This is really, you know, and wrestling is like, it's, it's so much harder now. And they have like

Speaker 1 four, four hour practices a week. And it's not even wrestling season yet.
Wrestling season starts like mid-November. Anyway, so this is a preseason tournament.
He's breathing heavy.

Speaker 1 And I've been there before. I've had all like the anxiety.
And I don't know what to say to him. Cause I know like if no one, nothing anyone said to me would work.

Speaker 1 And so I'm like, hey, man, I know you're probably nervous, but, you know. In a few hours, we're going to be in this car.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go back and your life's going to be the same, no matter what happens on the mat, you know? And that didn't seem to phase him. The breathing kept

Speaker 1 consistent. It was constant and it kept going.

Speaker 1 You should have said, last year you threw up on the mat. They cleaned it up and you got the win.
And you got the win. Yeah.
So this would be fine.

Speaker 1 I ran through everything I could in my head, like trying to calm this poor boy down. And then I thought, like the day before,

Speaker 1 Harrison, my youngest, had a flag football game and my father came and I walk up like I'm, you know, I'm keeping score actually on the game changer.

Speaker 1 And then I left my father for a minute and I come back like 20 minutes later and his entire ass crack is exposed. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 Like he's sitting down, but his pants, so so I have to tell him about it.

Speaker 1 But first I have to take a picture of him talking to the coaches with his ass out and then talking to like a grandmother of one of the players with his ass out.

Speaker 1 And I send this to Archie and Jack and I'm like, well, you guys are really missing out today, you know? And so I say to Jack, I'm like, hey,

Speaker 1 listen, before you go on the mat, you can't bring your phone to the mat, but before you get ready to go on the mat to be on deck, on double deck, just look at that picture.

Speaker 1 You know, it'll loosen you up a little bit, you know? And he said,

Speaker 1 oh, well, but yeah, but isn't that going to just like make me laugh? Like, aren't I supposed to be serious going into these things?

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'd rather you listen to AC DC to get pumped for this, but I also don't want you getting a heart attack, like, you know, worrying about it. Right.
So he did it.

Speaker 1 So like, I'm sitting on the other side of the bleachers. I see him.
He takes it. He looks at the phone.
He kind of laughs. This is now.
He's going onto the mat. He gets on there and he loses 16 to 1.

Speaker 1 And so I think it really worked, you know, like I think

Speaker 1 tech fall first period, but it got rid of the butterflies. And that's what coaches look for.
Yeah. Not to clean up vomit on the mat.
So no, so no ass crack next time. No ass crack.
No.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to step it up. But he did better in the second match.
But anyway, I don't know what that says about me as a father, but wrestling. Wow.
The worst.

Speaker 1 We were talking about parent corner this week, and my wife's like, what's the parent corner going to be this week? And Ben said,

Speaker 1 I'm not, I haven't been in a parent corner all year. I used to carry parent corner, and now I'm never in it.
And I'm like, well, I don't know. You're a pretty mellow kid.
Like, you got a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 You're just applying to college. And he's like, why don't you do a thing about how I've been working on all my college stuff and I've just been a complete asshole to you and mom all the time?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I mean, I can relay the message. He's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
There's got to be some story in there, right? And I'm like,

Speaker 1 about how you're a huge asshole and you leave the house every day. And

Speaker 1 your mom says stuff like, I can't believe I spent all that time passing him out of my body. And then he just grunts as he leaves in the morning and doesn't say goodbye.

Speaker 1 And then goes up to his room and barely talks to us. He's like, yeah, you can do something like that.

Speaker 1 Well, don't do that. You're not going to do that.
Yeah, so I don't know. I'm still workshopping it.
Don't do that. Yeah, I'm still workshopping it.

Speaker 1 He's been occasionally friendly lately, more friendly. But anyway,

Speaker 1 that was his suggestion.

Speaker 1 I wanted to actually steer this to friend corner for my side. Our friend Daniel,

Speaker 1 who was in Boston last week and texted, we have a group text that we really enjoy with a bunch of us and sends a text bill i'm at an italian restaurant in boston called il bano now do you know it and i said i do not

Speaker 1 and he said my buddy said it was brady's favorite it was pretty good so then james baby doll dixon chimes in el bano means the bathroom in italian

Speaker 1 and daniel texts back haha you're right the restaurant is lemora it said el bano in the door as i walked out i thought that was the name of the restaurant he thought the name of the restaurant was el bano the bathroom And I think we got two straight days of jokes about this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we did. About El Bano.
My My dad got a reservation at Obano tonight. Should I tell him to cancel? It just like, it just went on and on.

Speaker 1 Were you in trouble when you were ordering from a Caesar salad for the bathroom attendant? It just never

Speaker 1 ended. And it made me wonder, like, we're hitting that age where our friends are going to just start having moments like this.

Speaker 1 And I think it's going to be great for all of us. It was, we should read some of these.
Like, I think Rob Mills said, why is this bathroom attendant handing me lifesavers? Give me the lasagna ready.

Speaker 1 What are we doing?

Speaker 1 Did I order too much shit on a shingle?

Speaker 1 Stop trying to offer me a mint.

Speaker 1 It just kept going and going. And

Speaker 1 so anyway, Daniel's at El Mora, not El Banyo.

Speaker 1 We might have to change Parent Corner to Daniel Corner. Daniel Corner would be great.
Daniel Corner, there's one every week. Has he been on the Red Sox for the 26 World Series yet or no?

Speaker 1 Not just yet. I mean, there must be somebody you're looking to get that he's waiting to jump on yet.

Speaker 1 Oh, that would be great if it had gotten out that Brady's favorite restaurant is called El Banya in Boston. They created some kind of.
We shouldn't leak that.

Speaker 1 People, you can't get a reservation at this place because it's a bathroom in the North End. Don't bother washing your hands.

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Visit scoutmotors.com for details. How much NBA have you been betting? A lot.

Speaker 1 I'm doing it. You know, I'm going money line favorites for now.

Speaker 1 It hasn't killed me, except for that first night. Was that with House with the Wizards? That sucked.
But I bounced back. How about you?

Speaker 1 I've been pretty careful. Just a couple.
couple teams that I liked heading into the season, like the Spurs and the Bucs. But

Speaker 1 the only betting revelation, it's a weird one because it's my team, but my team just, I don't think is good, the Celtics. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, I actually thought they were going to be a little, oh, people are discounting them. They still have some good players.
They have an infrastructure. They're going to shoot a ton of threes.

Speaker 1 It turns out

Speaker 1 rebounding and defense is also important.

Speaker 1 That's one of the things we're learning through these games. Yeah, they.

Speaker 1 Detroit killed them on the boards today. They don't get stops in the last couple of minutes.
They're just, and it's, it's not just all the guys they lost. It's really Tatum and Cornette.

Speaker 1 I've been the two major losses because those were big rebound guys for them. And I'm starting to wonder if they're just not going to be good.
Like, are they going to throw away the season?

Speaker 1 I think it's in play. I don't know what their over-under is now.
It was 42 and a half before this season. And right now, it is off.
They don't even have it. That means zero.

Speaker 1 They're not going to win a game after this. Yeah, for the division, they're 9-1.
But I think

Speaker 1 this team's in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 1 So, are they a three-point thing at least true? Is that what you thought would happen? Were they going to be spiteful with the three? They're not.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're shooting about where they were last year.

Speaker 1 So, they're 0-3 right now.

Speaker 1 They're playing at New Orleans, fourth game, and five nights tomorrow. Home for Cleveland on Wednesday, and then at Philly on Halloween.

Speaker 1 And then they play Houston the day after at home on November 1st. Like 0-7's legitimately in play for wow.
Well, that'd be fun. And

Speaker 1 as you know, I'm usually more glass half-full on my teams. I'm very concerned.
I think, and there's been some Celtic fans who are like, this is how we knew this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 We knew that we weren't going to be good. We lost too many guys, but I think

Speaker 1 I don't know why, but I just thought, I thought they would be able to patch it together. And I don't think it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 There's a very interesting moment right now for this team because because they have their own first-round pick.

Speaker 1 Whether they just do you just toss away the season, like Philly tossed away last season, they got Vijay Edgecombe, who's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 You know, they might, if Tatum's not coming back till February, March.

Speaker 1 So, I just wonder, like, that's a team I would probably bet against these next couple of games if that wasn't my what does that mean toss away the season?

Speaker 1 You're not gonna, you're not gonna be the bottom three or four, right? Are you just like banking on like what Dallas did, like miracle in the lottery?

Speaker 1 And uh, no, I think this is, I think this might be a bottom five team in the East. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hmm. Okay.
They're really, they don't know who to play at the end of these games. They don't know

Speaker 1 like Detroit just destroyed them on the boards tonight. Like they couldn't get a rebound.
And in the Philly game, they couldn't, they just couldn't get a stop.

Speaker 1 So I'm concerned because like Jalen played, Jalen had 41 today and they still lost in Detroit. They couldn't get a stop.

Speaker 1 I think I just, I misread this one. I I had some good ones with the overrunners.
I think I missed on this Celtics. And then Indiana is the other one.
They lost Numhard.

Speaker 1 I think Indiana actually was the right play to think they were still going to be pretty good, but no, Numhard. Now it's like, I think they're in major trouble.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I think those two are going to be in real trouble.
Can I make you feel better about your team?

Speaker 1 We could talk about this off air, but Pookie and Albanian Bruce told me about a Peyton Pritchard player prop that is just out of this world.

Speaker 1 Under? Is it an under? I don't want to say it in front of everybody because then we'll get Pablo will get us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we can't have Pablo come after us.

Speaker 1 The other one was Dallas. I've been watching just because of the, I've watched all the Dallas stuff, including tonight because of flag

Speaker 1 and seeing how they're using him with the point guard. He's a dunker.
He's a pretty good dunker.

Speaker 1 The flag's really good, but I thought maybe there was going to be a chance to kind of zag against them because this flag point guard thing is kind of a disaster.

Speaker 1 But today they looked a lot better so they're i think they have a lot of talent i listened to you a lot on that so i hope that they make the playoffs and they get over 44 you know all that stuff well i hope you listen to me on san antonio because that's the one that if i did i did if if wemby is going to be healthy that's going to be a monster team i think and then i really like milwaukee i think milwaukee is legitimately good um They had a tough loss today to Cleveland, but they were in that game and came down in the last minute.

Speaker 1 But I think Milwaukee is for real. And they can shoot.
is there oh you can't talk awards really but um i wonder i just talk awards is there one on them

Speaker 1 yeah i'm trying to think if anyone moved a lot wemby wemby was 12 to 1 before the season he's plus 360 now yeah right

Speaker 1 so are we still with the top two top three seed thing or we think they can get there for him well wemby could have the this season was so spectacular doesn't matter we have to commemorate it yeah i just think jokic is four to one now and anytime he's like mahomes where there's some sort of early season over.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you've seen him, but he looks like he's playing himself into shape this year. Yeah.
He's definitely the chunkiest he's been in a while.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 yeah, the Wemby, I think, was the biggest flip. And there's the Luca.

Speaker 1 Luca's six to one.

Speaker 1 What's his seat? The points per game leader.

Speaker 1 Luca's plus 340 to be the points per game leader this year. I don't know how he's not going to lead the league in points.
What's the threshold for that?

Speaker 1 It's different from like how to qualify for MVP. Points per game and I think it's like 60 games.
So 65 for awards, 60 for these things? Something like that. Yeah.
All right. Yeah.
340.

Speaker 1 I would bet Luca. I can actually bet on that one, but I would bet Luca plus 340.
I'm doing that. As long as we don't hear he's out like three weeks and stuff.
Like this is. That would be the issue.

Speaker 1 You know, it was interesting going to the game on Friday. First of all, he's in good shape.
Like it was the best shape I've seen in a couple of years, but

Speaker 1 the Laker crowd crowd just loves him.

Speaker 1 They really do.

Speaker 1 They're just really into it. And he has such disdain for his opponents.
He's talking shit the whole time. He's mad at the refs.
Like it's a whole,

Speaker 1 it really feels like a performance, and it just kind of makes sense in L.A. So,

Speaker 1 you know, they're not going to win the title or anything this year, but I think long-term it's a great fit for him.

Speaker 1 Well, they love him because he's their Ozempic dealer, half these fans, or they have to.

Speaker 1 Well, it was weird because LeBron is on the bench, and it's like, yeah, you know, he's the second best player of all time, one of the most famous basketball players ever.

Speaker 1 And it's kind of not his team anymore. Right.

Speaker 1 And he's sitting there and he's very polite and he, you know, good energy, it seemed like or okay energy, but it's just a weird situation. I don't remember anything like this.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I can't imagine Kobe just being on the bench as this became somebody else's team, you know? Right, right. Well, that was a big issue, but that's why one of them had to go.

Speaker 1 Hey, we real quick before I go, big, big disparity in opinion here um bronnie and lebron plus yannis and his two brothers they're the starters you get an average bench right let's say an average whatever the 16th best bench is how many games does that team win

Speaker 1 so i'm starting bronnie and the two yannis brothers but i have giannis and lebron how many minutes do i have to play the three the the two brothers in the sun

Speaker 1 like you know mostly whatever a starting lineup would mostly play so like 30 to 35 minutes right and the bench is average

Speaker 1 but i have giannis giannis and lebron yeah but i don't have any shooting with those five other than lebron

Speaker 1 i think that's like a 20-win team that's what i think yeah yeah tate said 45 house said like 37 38. no it's we got to see this to believe it i mean tate it's probably not going to happen come on tate

Speaker 1 He's positive. He's a very, very positive guy.
I actually like, though, that they signed the other brother, the Bucs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they should sign more family members because you really only play 10 guys, right? Like, what, what would be

Speaker 1 how

Speaker 1 shady could you get with it? Like, if you just sign his cousin who's like never, let's say he had like a 5'9 cousin who was like a wrestler, who never played basketball.

Speaker 1 And he's like, he's our 15th man. Yeah.
And he just never played, but he was one of the 15th guys. Like, technically, that's legal.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're signing Albanian Bruce and Pookie to 10-day contracts, like, yeah, I think that's, that's when you have to maybe it's a red flag. I can't get enough Albania Bruce and everybody.

Speaker 1 Let's have him on. One of my favorites.
He's going to be fine. Let's have him on next week.
All right. Cuz

Speaker 1 we're going to be back next Sunday. What's the Sunday night again next week? It's a good one, right? Seattle at Washington.
Oh, not a good one. We're probably not going live after that one next week.

Speaker 1 I never know why or when we go live, but you'll be surprised.

Speaker 1 It's usually when it's a good game. We want to go live.

Speaker 1 We'll see if the Pats,

Speaker 1 the Pats play next week? Yeah. They play in Atlanta.
Okay. We'll see if the Pats can be seven to two.
Cuz, as always, a pleasure. Good job by you.
Good job by you, buddy.

Speaker 1 All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Sal, thanks to Gahal.
Thanks to Eduardo. I will be back on this feed on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1 So now I've done one, two, and four.

Speaker 1 I guess H2O would be the only one left that we'd, who knows when we do H2O, H2O, might be in the in the tail end, maybe around when we're when we've done like 750 movies.

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