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Speaker 3 Light language is a higher frequency language. We can just go into the state that we do and then it channels through.
Let me switch.

Speaker 2 There.

Speaker 2 On this episode of the Commercial Break, but you go to like the super jazz heads, like the, you know, hey, man, Scotted to do Bob. Hey, do.
You know, that crazy,

Speaker 2 what do they call that?

Speaker 2 Skibby de Dupa Boop Bupedida.

Speaker 2 Skedaddling. Skedaddling.
Scattle. Scat.
Scat, that's right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yes.
It's skedaddling. Skedaddling.

Speaker 2 I think that's skedaddling.

Speaker 2 Sedaddaddladdled out of here. Skedaddle out of here.
Why do we bring that word back? What happened to skedaddle? What a great word. It is a great word.
Skedaddle.

Speaker 2 Next time I'm like in a road rage incident, I'm going to be like, you skedaddle out of here. Tell blue.
Oh, blue. I just go, get, get,

Speaker 2 get.

Speaker 2 The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, Cats and Kittens. Welcome back to the Commercial Break.
I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Chris and Joy.
Only best to you, Chris.

Speaker 2 Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe.
The hangover from the endless day continues. It does.

Speaker 2 You may not even know this, but we had a little recording issue yesterday, so I had to put out a canned episode.

Speaker 2 Break glass in case of emergency, put out a canned episode of the commercial break, which was, you know, only two and a half months old. So it didn't sound dated or anything.

Speaker 2 Are we revealing things? Yes, you got to listen to the bit on the front of that, by the way. Listen to it.
Placebatide for your measles. Placebatide.

Speaker 2 Oh, Brian's at it again with the AI music. There you go.
A lot of people said, hey,

Speaker 2 put out the playlist on Spotify. I'll listen to it.
So I double-checked to make sure I have commercial rights to my commercial break jingles. And indeed, I do.

Speaker 2 So I can put them on Spotify if I solve it. I can play your TCB playlist.
Yeah, the platform I use even has like a distribution place. Like you can copyright and distribute and all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 So that's coming. I don't know when.
But it's coming sometime. It's not in the notebook.

Speaker 2 It'll happen. No.
Don't worry. I figure

Speaker 2 I want to get like 30 really good songs and then maybe I'll publish it. But we're at like 20 right now.
So give me some time. Actually, I have like hundreds of songs in there right now.

Speaker 2 But the challenge is that you have to keep on refreshing and refreshing and refreshing the ideas.

Speaker 2 If you ask it to do something and it doesn't do quite what you want it to, then you have to go back and prompt it to do something else. So it's quite the

Speaker 2 ordeal of typing words in order to make beautiful music. Okay?

Speaker 2 And then I have to come up with the lyrics, which is always, you know, fun. My kid was in here.
One of the kids that could read was in here the other day.

Speaker 2 And I'm writing this bit about, writing the song about Frankie B.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 in the song, it says something about penis. So he can hear what's going on.
And he goes, why did you use the word penis in the song? And I go, we all got one, kid.

Speaker 2 It's all good. And he goes, are you writing a song about penises? And I said, not specifically about penises, but there is a penis that's a penis appearance.
A penis appearance.

Speaker 2 There's a peepee appearance.

Speaker 2 Popped its little head out of the hole. There you go.

Speaker 2 Turtle in its shell. Popped right out.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I want to talk about music because we had a very interesting conversation with a guest that you'll hear next week, Ricky Lindholm, who is married to Fred Armison,

Speaker 2 but a creator, an artist, a comedian, and a musician in her own right. And she said something very interesting during that interview that led me down a big rabbit hole last night.

Speaker 2 And I'll preview the conversation. We were talking about Holland Oates and that she had a relationship with Oates,

Speaker 2 like a friendly relationship with Oates.

Speaker 2 And she mentioned that, she mentioned. a story about how they got together, how Holland Oates got together.

Speaker 2 I don't want to give it away yet. That's right.
I remember that. Okay, so she said, but I don't know that this story is true.

Speaker 2 And the story sounded so outrageous that I was like, I've never heard that story about Holland Oates. Is it or isn't it true?

Speaker 2 And I went and did some homework and I found out that it is, in fact, true. And I'll share the story with you in just a little bit.
Okay.

Speaker 2 But I also, then I just started going down a rabbit hole on the internet of weird, wild musical stories, like, you know, things like that. Like how people met or got

Speaker 2 crazy stories, you know, people getting banned from countries for doing this or throwing things out of hotel rooms.

Speaker 2 I went from the really popular stories we all know to the super niche stories that maybe some of us don't know. Oh, I love that.
So let's talk about a bunch of them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But first, I wanted to update you on a story that we talked about last week, which was

Speaker 2 the Italian, the Italian Bitcoin investor who was supposedly kidnapped for three weeks and

Speaker 2 tortured. Yes.
In New York. And they arrested two other crypto bros who apparently.
And one was a woman.

Speaker 2 There was a woman involved in this. But now the story gets curiouser and curiouser, as you imagine it would.

Speaker 2 Because being kidnapped for three weeks and being asked for your Bitcoin password and then only escaping when you agree to give the password like three weeks is a whole shitload of time to be tortured right and yeah he had some bruises on him but he it didn't to me it appeared to be a little bit weird from the video of him running down the street in a robe not looking super beat up that he was tortured for three weeks and then only agreed three weeks later to give up his Bitcoin and then they let him go to go get his computer and he just ran out the front door.

Speaker 2 If you want millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and you take the step of kidnapping and torturing somebody, you're not going to let him run out the front door. No.

Speaker 2 You're not going to let him go get his computer downstairs near the front door. But I don't know what happened.
And no one does. We're all piecing the story together.

Speaker 2 It's the fog of war, so to speak, right now. It's only just happened a couple, like last week.

Speaker 2 But new information comes out every day about this. And there are a couple of news outlets, mainly TMZ, that's been following this story pretty closely.

Speaker 2 And so, a couple of days ago, a video comes out, a video supposedly from the time when this guy was in this brownstone townhouse in Manhattan, being tortured for three weeks.

Speaker 2 The video shows him cooking up crack cocaine in an air fryer, laughing, joking, having a good time, but he's tied to a chair. What?

Speaker 2 His waist is tied to a rolling chair. Okay, all right.
What? Some leads some validity to the story that he was kidnapped and tortured, leads some validity to the story that maybe it wasn't as

Speaker 2 tortured as he initially would have, you would have thought he'd been. Then other videos come out.
Wait, hold on. I'm focused for a second on tied to the rolling chair.
He's tied to a rolling chair.

Speaker 2 Like a chair that can move around? A chair that can roll around. His hands are free.
His legs are free, but his waist is tied up. But to a chair that can move.
A chair that can roll around.

Speaker 2 To an air fryer where he's cooking crack cocaine.

Speaker 2 wow that's a new one for me that really is i've seen it done on a on a stove i think one time there was a microwave involved i knew a crackhead i knew a crackhead he would take cocaine and cook it up he was a crackhead that's just the way he preferred to ingest his cocaine and he did it a couple different ways but air fryer the air fryer is a new one wow there you go i mean technology advances right you got to find new ways the kids are cooking their crack with the air fryer

Speaker 2 it doesn't surprise me that the crypto cocaine scene has now turned to crack cocaine either, because we say that's a street drug, but really the people who buy crack cocaine, by and large, are like white dudes from suburbia America, right?

Speaker 2 That's been like a well-known fact for a long time. Okay.
All right. So then I wake up this morning and I see yet another update.
You ready for this? I want to read this from TMZ.

Speaker 2 Crypto torture kidnap case, victim in wild sex party scenes around the time of alleged torture.

Speaker 2 Sex parties and x-rated pranks, not exactly kidnapping and torture, but a new bombshell video and photos reveal the kind of wild

Speaker 2 bacchanalian

Speaker 2 atmosphere during the bizarre crypto kidnapping case that's landed John Waltz and William Duplice in jail.

Speaker 2 TMZ obtained this footage showing their alleged victim, Italian businessman, Michael Valentino, hanging out, grinning, and frequently shirtless with other partygoers inside the Manahattan townhouse Duplice and Waltz were renting.

Speaker 2 Cops say the duo abducted and tortured

Speaker 2 this guy, this Michael Valentino, from May 6th to May 23rd to get him to turn over a password to the Bitcoin wallet worth millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 The suspects allegedly beat, shocked, and pistol whipped Valentino, but the new images captured around May 11th or 12th show him mostly smiling, laughing, and engaging with several women.

Speaker 2 One picture captures him shirtless and smiling with a nick collar that's attached to a leash. A woman is pulling, simulating an SNM sex scene.

Speaker 2 Two other women are sitting on a couch watching it all unfold. And there's another man on the couch, but his face is completely obscured.
So we can't tell if it's Duplezi or Waltz.

Speaker 2 And I think I'm saying his name right. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Perhaps the most shocking video shows Michael having sex with a woman in a bedroom when an unidentified man barrages in to press a pink sex toy against Valentino's ass.

Speaker 2 Other clips show Michael talking and cutting cocaine with baking soda and sleeping on a couch near two other people, one of whom has a large knife on his lap.

Speaker 2 There's also a video of Michael on his knees as a woman gently pulls on his leash.

Speaker 2 Another picture shows the Italian investor sitting in a wheelchair, sipping a drink and eating a sandwich while Blake Lively film plays in the background.

Speaker 2 While none of the images show Michael in distress, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's true.

Speaker 2 And we're told this footage was all captured within a day or two period near the during the nearly three weeks he was supposedly held against his will.

Speaker 2 As we reported, Woltson du Pleasi are being held without bail after prosecutors charge them with kidnapping, unlawful imprisonment, assault, and possession of a weapon.

Speaker 2 These images seem to call into question whether or for how long Valentino was held against his will.

Speaker 2 Indeed,

Speaker 2 wow. If I'm going to be kidnapped and tortured, sounds like my kind of party.
Yeah, exactly. Sex,

Speaker 2 pink sex toys,

Speaker 2 cocaine and baking soda. I mean, movies.
Movies

Speaker 2 on large screen projectors and a brownstone with pool in the background and catered food. That's the most fucked up part about this.
Cat food. Is that like

Speaker 2 two weeks ago, I guess, maybe, like when this first came out, there were videos that people who had been to this house, because supposedly it was the Crypto Bro party house for a while, that they would often have a private chef catering these big meals in this beautiful brownstone and then it just like would devolve into a cocaine induced haze for days and days on end this was

Speaker 2 my basement

Speaker 2 with bitcoin that's what it was it was my basement with bitcoin

Speaker 2 unbelievable yeah your basement um upgraded my basement upgrade that's right my basement with money there you go my basement with enough money This is a really insane story and one I would like to follow to the very end.

Speaker 2 Definitely keep us posted. Now I'm wrapped in.
Now you got me. I mean, you know, kidnapped and tortured.
Oh, wow. That's intense.

Speaker 2 Kidnapped and tortured and you're cooking cocaine in a rolling chair in an air fryer. Wow.
Now there's sex parties.

Speaker 2 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 2 Cocaine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the onion unfolds. It does.
The onion peels back. Doesn't mean that he wasn't kidnapped, tortured, or forced to give his Bitcoin wallet away.
Just muddies the water a little bit. It does.

Speaker 2 And where did the pictures come from? Were they like inside like house surveillance or were they just people? Taken by somebody else. Okay.
So this also calls into question.

Speaker 2 I think I understand maybe what's going on here.

Speaker 2 This guy goes to a party. Right.
Okay. Supposedly Michael Valentino had Bitcoin stolen from him a year, year and a half ago.
Oh, really?

Speaker 2 These two crypto bros then claim they know where it is and they know how to get it back. Just when you get to Manhattan, let us know and we'll all figure it out.

Speaker 2 So he takes a trip specifically to Manhattan to see these guys. This is the story he told to get his crypto back, to get his Bitcoin back, millions of dollars worth.

Speaker 2 I think that they invited him to come to a big fucking party. And it devolved into this three-week sexual orgy full of cocaine exploration into a crack-induced haze.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And at some point. Psychosis.
Yeah, psychosis. And Crypto Bro 1 and Crypto Bro 2 say he got hacked before and the police didn't get involved.
Let's do it again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We could use a couple million dollars.

Speaker 2 Let's force him to give us the Bitcoin. And just in a crack-induced craziness, these two

Speaker 2 for a couple of hours started like threatening him and saying, you got to give us your Bitcoin wallet. I don't think it happened for three weeks.

Speaker 2 I think he was likely partying for three weeks.

Speaker 2 And then at the very end, and we've all been there after a long night not torturing and kidnapping somebody but we've been in that weird place where we just don't know which way is up or which way is down yeah and people start getting strange around you right if you don't know how to handle your shit shit can go sideways real quick yeah and i think that's what happened and that's probably what's going to come out they likely will be charged with something you know threats with a deadly weapon or something like that but i think the kidnapping and the torture part not so sure that's going to stick when you're having sex cooking crack cocaine and making jokes while watching Blake Lively movies.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Just doesn't sound like the kind of kidnapping I'm familiar with.
No, no, that's not the one they show in the movies. No, indeed not.

Speaker 2 All right, let's talk about music. But first, a reaction video, if you will, Chrissy, I want to let you listen and see a song that is going around the internet right now.

Speaker 2 And it is extremely intense. And I love it.
I am all about it. This song is called Doll People, and it's by Sophia Isla Izella.
Izella, something like that. It's I-S-E-L-L-A, Izella.

Speaker 2 I guess that's how you say it. And she, as I think, she opened for Taylor Swift once or twice, if I'm not mistaken.
She's young. Her voice is haunting.

Speaker 2 I want to play this song for you, and I want you to tell me what you think. And I'm going to show you the video too.
All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 The doll people are not men. They are made of ice and glass.
Our skin is clay and painted blue. Our head can detach.

Speaker 2 We are statues with a pulse.

Speaker 2 We are art you can further.

Speaker 2 The doll people are quiet.

Speaker 2 What is there to say? Art does not interpret itself. There are men with a day to save.
We are paintings with flakes.

Speaker 2 We are art you can further.

Speaker 2 Okay, it goes on from there. I don't want to play too much of it.
It's her copyrighted music. Holy shit.

Speaker 2 First of all, whatever that is, I'm into it. Whatever that is, I'm into it.
Second of all, I hope my daughters hear this song. I mean, honestly, I hope my daughters hear this song.

Speaker 2 That is a crazy interpretation of the world around her, and I love it. I think it's great.
I'm not going to try to be the guy who, you know,

Speaker 2 but I just think it's an intensely emotional and

Speaker 2 thrashing song. I love it.
I love it every time. It plus the video that goes with it.
You know, she's got the green and her hair's in her face. And yeah.
It's haunting. Reminds me a lot of Tori Amos.

Speaker 2 I was going to say the same thing. Reminds me a lot of Torrey Amos, who I went and saw live one time.
And she was. Maybe a little Lord mixed in, too.
Yeah, Lord. Yep.
There you go. You know,

Speaker 2 I went and saw... Tori Amos one time.
Tori Amos in a piano. That's it.
On the stage, center stage, small theater. She's She's amazing.
A couple hundred people. I was 16 or 17 years old.

Speaker 2 I got the tickets for my girlfriend at the time, Brooke, who really enjoyed Tori Amos. She turned me on to her, and I just was in love with everything Tori Amos at the time.

Speaker 2 And we got there, and sitting in front of us was Michael Stipe

Speaker 2 was sitting in front of us at the show. And

Speaker 2 it was a rather intimate and intense experience in and of itself. It's like Torri Amos like bled out emotion as she was playing playing on that piano.
Center stage theater.

Speaker 2 So tiny. I mean, like 500, 600 people.

Speaker 2 And she was certainly very much

Speaker 2 like she was at the peak of kind of her fame. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Screwing that piano bench, thrashing at it, you know, banging on the piano. Everything about it was intense and beautiful.
And every note played with

Speaker 2 such dedication and almost like like God coming through her fingers, it was hard not to be moved by Tori Amos

Speaker 2 in that room. And I think part of why it was so intense is because you were literally feet from her.

Speaker 2 And so you were watching an artist at the top of her game, emotionally raw and vulnerable and in charge. And

Speaker 2 every, I mean, all the things. I can use all the words, but the reality was it's a concert that will be in my top three forever and ever.
Amen. Torrey Amos.
I love it. Center stage theater.
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Speaker 2 something.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 I love it. Yeah.
Good job, Sophia. I mean, you don't need my applause, but wow, intense, super beautiful.
The whole song is great. Go check her out on Instagram.
She's, it's blowing up right now.

Speaker 2 So, all right, let's take a break, and then I'm going to tell you some of the more wild stories from musical history. I can't wait.
I love that you went down this rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 Oh, I went way down it, actually. Way down it.
Let me, um, I can't find the liner. Oh, they're there.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I get lost. All right, let's take a break and we'll go down the musical rabbit hole.
We'll be back.

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Speaker 2 Okay, you ready to hear some wild stories in music history? Yes. Okay, let's go through them.
I'm just going to rapid-fire these and we can talk about them as we go along. Okay.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to talk, let's go from most well-known to least well-known stories. How's that? That's the order that I put them in.
Ready?

Speaker 2 The time Britney Spears performed with a live snake and almost got bit.

Speaker 2 I think most of us will. Yeah, that was the MTV Music Horror.
The 2001 VMAs. Oh, VMAs.
Yes. Britney performed I'm a Slave for You, wearing next to nothing and draped in a massive

Speaker 2 albino python. What viewers didn't know, the snake handler later claimed that Brittany was incredibly nervous and the snake was stressed out and hissing, ready to strike.

Speaker 2 At one point during rehearsals, the snake lunged toward her face and producers considered replacing it.

Speaker 2 Britney insisted on keeping it because, as legend has it, the snake was just too sexy and she wanted to keep it.

Speaker 2 Didn't know that little bit of tidbit of information, but I did hear that she was nervous around the snake. Makes sense.

Speaker 2 It's around your neck and you're on stage with all the people and lights and stuff, music. I don't mind the python.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, like, what?

Speaker 2 It's like those guys, you know, what's his name and what's his name, Siegfried and Roy, that performed with live lions, tigers, and ligers

Speaker 2 for three fucking decades, inches from audience members with nothing but a leash to hold the lions back and in some cases, nothing.

Speaker 2 And those. Animals, those majestic fucking creatures, wild as they could be, stood there on a stoop for most of the show for 30 years until one night, somebody got over it.

Speaker 2 Like somebody was done with it. And that was an interesting documentary.
Terrible tragedy. It was an interesting documentary and very sad.

Speaker 2 But you look back on it and you go, of course. Right.
You're lucky the audience didn't end up slaughtered. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 2 David Bowie's astronaut tribute almost crashed the ISS feed when Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield recorded a stunning cover of Space Oddity aboard the ISS, the International Space Station.

Speaker 2 It went viral, but here's the twist: David Bowie's team had to negotiate with NASA to even allow the song's use. And for months afterwards, the clip vanished from YouTube until rights were cleared.

Speaker 2 I did not know that, but I know the clip. Interesting.

Speaker 2 Let's see here. Wu-Tang once sold a copy of an album for $2 million to one person.
His name was Idiot Pharma Bro. Remember that guy? He's not in jail.
Oh, he got out. Yeah, he got out.

Speaker 2 Lim Biscuit played Woodstock 99 for $3.

Speaker 2 Oh, I did not know that. I didn't either.
Woodstock 99 was already a powder keg. There was no water, the heat, angry crowds, topless women.

Speaker 2 Then Lim Biscuit played Break Stuff and encouraged the crowd to break stuff. Yeah.
Riots broke out. People tore plywood from the stage.
Fires. and looting began to happen.

Speaker 2 Fred Durst later said, we didn't know what was happening. Promoters blamed the band.

Speaker 2 The band blamed the crowd. The crowd blamed the Porta Potties.

Speaker 2 And we all remember it because it happened live on MTV. Yeah, and there's that documentary.
There's a couple documentaries about Woodstock 99, actually. Go watch it.

Speaker 2 It is a lesson in what not to do when you're at a fucking live show from both the promoter's standpoint and the crowd's standpoint.

Speaker 2 Mid-performance at an iHeartRadio music fest, Green Day's set was suddenly cut short so Ursher could go on.

Speaker 2 But Billy Joe Armstrong exploded on stage, yelling, I'm not Justin fucking Bieber, motherfuckers. He smashed his guitar, stormed offstage, and checked into rehab the very next day.

Speaker 2 Really? Yes. I didn't know he checked into rehab.
I've seen the video of this happening, but I didn't know he checked into rehab. He had a bad drinking problem, I think is what it was.

Speaker 2 I remember B. Orc beat up a reporter in 1996.
I do remember that.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's go to less known stories. Ready? The time Keith Moon drove a Rolls-Royce into a pool on his birthday.
Keith Moon, the drummer for The Who,

Speaker 2 was

Speaker 2 when you hear crazy rock and roll stories, like that rock and rollers are crazy and they trash hotel rooms, they have sex.

Speaker 2 That is Keith Moon. Keith Moon is the reason why those stories are around.
He was, by all accounts, the craziest human being anybody had ever met.

Speaker 2 He also happened to be one of the better drummers that ever lived. Yes.
In 1967. That's one way to celebrate your birthday.
Hey, listen,

Speaker 2 if you can afford to drive a Rolls-Royce into a pool, drive a Rolls-Royce into a pool. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 I can afford to drive one of those like Flintstones cars. Yeah, my kids' Flintstone cars.

Speaker 2 I threw that in the pool once. It was just for fun.

Speaker 2 Then I had to go get it. I'm Keith Moon.
I'm Keith Boone, bitches. I'm making that video.
That's coming up over the summer.

Speaker 2 I'll probably drown.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, I lost my place.

Speaker 2 Brian lost his place in line.

Speaker 2 1967, the Who's drummer Keith Moon celebrates his 21st birthday by throwing a party in Flint, Michigan at a holiday inn.

Speaker 2 The night included naked cake fights, a TV thrown out a window, and Moon, allegedly driving a Lincoln Continental, not a Rolls-Royce, as the legend would have it, into the hotel pool.

Speaker 2 He lost a tooth and was arrested in his underwear. The hotel banned the Who for life, and the Holiday Inn chain used the story as a cautionary tale.

Speaker 2 They would put it in like... in hotels.
They would put like little flyers that said, you know,

Speaker 2 be respectful.

Speaker 2 Right. I'm sure that helped holiday innovatively.
Yeah. Holiday Inn is also where I put 27

Speaker 2 into

Speaker 2 an air conditioner and turned it up.

Speaker 2 The band, one band, signed their contract in literal blood. Blood? Yes.
In 2006, the band The Used, turned out well for them, decided signing a contract with a pen was just too boring.

Speaker 2 So they decided to use their own blood. They pricked their fingers and signed their Warner Brothers contract with their own blood.
I'm surprised Moore haven't done that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, honestly.

Speaker 2 Alice Cooper didn't do that first.

Speaker 2 Ozzy Osborne, somebody.

Speaker 2 Let's see. I don't care about Elvis Presley.
Frank Zappa was once pushed off stage by a fan and broke so many bones, he spent a year in a wheelchair.

Speaker 2 I think I remember hearing that in one of my autobiography books of rockers. Yeah, I can't imagine you would do that.

Speaker 2 You know, I also also was in a band once where there was a fall from stage, only it was Jose Cuevo that pushed me off of stage.

Speaker 2 And I was too broke to be in a wheelchair for a year.

Speaker 2 In 1971, during a show at the London's Rainbow Theater, a fan rushed the stage, shoved Zappa into the orchestra pit, claiming he was jealous of Zappa's relationship with his girlfriend.

Speaker 2 Zappa broke his leg, crushed his larynx, and suffered permanent damage to his voice. He spent a year in the wheelchair and had to relearn how to perform.

Speaker 2 His next album, The Grand Wazoo, was written as recovery.

Speaker 2 Angry, weirder, and more complex than anything before.

Speaker 2 Well, you could never

Speaker 2 angrier, weirder, and more complex is like it's a high bar for Frank Zappa. Yeah, the highest.
Yeah, Frank was a very interesting musician. Very.
I like a few of his things.

Speaker 2 It was never like my super flavor. What I like is when Frank got together with other musicians and created good music.
Yeah. And was never like a huge solo Frank Zappa.
However, Dweezel Zappa, now

Speaker 2 Dweezel, you named your kid Dweezel. I mean, honestly, Frank, you could have gone for Bob Zappa instead.
You went for Dweezel Zappa. Poor fucking kid.

Speaker 2 When Metallica and Lou Reed made a collab album so bad, it broke up the friendship. I didn't even remember that.
Yeah, I was about to say I had no idea they did an album together.

Speaker 2 In 2001, Metallica and Lou Reed made an experimental album called Lulu, which no one asked for and almost everybody disliked.

Speaker 2 Reed said it was the best thing anyone's ever done, while critics called it unlistenable. Like being yelled at by your dad after he drank too much red wine, said one fan.

Speaker 2 Lars later said some Metallica fans sent death threats. Reed laughed and said they just don't get it.
It's now a cult classic of music gone completely off the rails.

Speaker 2 I had no idea

Speaker 2 until I read that that they had done an album called Lulu. Let's see if

Speaker 2 Lulu. That's not the name of the album I would expect from either one of them.
No. Okay, here's just a taste.

Speaker 2 By Gaza Ross and Nightmare.

Speaker 2 Let's control me.

Speaker 2 Yep, that's about enough of that. All right.
I love everything Lou Reed, but that was not.

Speaker 2 As a guy who loves everything, Lou Reed and Velvet Underground, that was not anything that I was even aware of until I read that. Probably for good reason.
Right.

Speaker 2 There's a reason we didn't hear about it. Now, here's one I do remember, but many people may not.
Creed once played to an empty arena and then got sued for sucking so bad.

Speaker 2 In December of 2002, a show in Chicago, Creed was so bad that four fans filed a lawsuit, claiming that the band couldn't sing, play, or even perform, and that they were wasted beyond comprehension.

Speaker 2 Lead singer Scott Stapp reportedly laid on stage for long stretches and forgot most of the lyrics. The band later blamed a bad reaction to prescription medication.

Speaker 2 It's a reaction. Yeah, when you take 20 Vicodin at one time, you're going to have a bad reaction.
It didn't go to court, but Creed versus the People is

Speaker 2 an amazing moment in rock and roll history. It really is.

Speaker 2 I think they settled out of court, actually, on that one, gave them their money back, and then a couple hundred dollars and some merch for the trouble.

Speaker 2 I mean, Creed, it's just an amazing, amazing story. Creed is a story that, that's another one of those stories that I'll follow to the very end.

Speaker 2 I think Creed is doing another like

Speaker 2 boat cruise show, and all the 90s bands are getting back together. Gin Blossoms and Blues Traveler are playing with like better than Ezra or something.
Yeah. Yeah.
And

Speaker 2 okay, I guess that's the nostalgia tour none of us were asking for, but here it comes.

Speaker 2 The punk band that faked its own breakup by faking their own deaths. Did you hear about this one? Maybe.
Let me.

Speaker 2 The early 2000s, an obscure Swedish punk band called the Trumper, the Tupperware Remix Party claimed in a press release that they had all died in a synthesizer accident.

Speaker 2 A synthesizer accident.

Speaker 2 Fans took to mourning.

Speaker 2 Obituaries were written, but six months later, they showed up alive with fake mustaches, new stage names, and a resurrection tour.

Speaker 2 When asked why they did it, we wanted to see if we could become legends without doing anything particularly legendary. That's really smart.

Speaker 2 We should have thought about that 400 episodes ago, Christian. We should have.

Speaker 2 Bob Dylan was once held at gunpoint for looking suspicious, wearing a hoodie. 2009.
Oh, yeah, I think I remember this. 2009, Bob Dylan wandering

Speaker 2 alone in a hoodie in Long Branch, New Jersey, was stopped by two young cops who had no idea who he was. When asked what he was doing, Dylan said, just walking.
The cops thought he was casing a house.

Speaker 2 He didn't have an ID and gave a fake sounding name, Bob Dylan.

Speaker 2 They called for backup. Only when senior officers arrived and confirmed that this was indeed musical legend Bob Dylan did they let him go.
Dylan reportedly found it very funny.

Speaker 2 The cops, however, did not.

Speaker 2 I can see how that could happen to a young person. You know, if you're seeing

Speaker 2 Bob Dylan, yes, walking down the street and the way he looks, yeah, it could seem a little suspicious. It happens to me everywhere I go.
Young kids just don't recognize me.

Speaker 2 However, if you're in the over 60 crowd, you're like, how do you download a podcast?

Speaker 2 The Diva demands of Van Halen's MMs. Oh,

Speaker 2 the old MMs. The old MM story.

Speaker 2 You may have heard, speaking of young kids, you probably haven't heard this one. You may have heard the no brown MMs story, but you don't know that there's a twist.
It wasn't just rock star ego.

Speaker 2 In the early 1980s, Van Halen buried a clause in their concert writer requesting all brown MMs be removed backstage. Why?

Speaker 2 Because their production was so complex with pyro and weight limits that they'd hide this clause to see if promoters were really reading the rider clause. I did read that.

Speaker 2 If they saw the brown MMs, they knew the likely was,

Speaker 2 if they saw brown MMs, they knew the venue likely skipped on safety protocols. Also, it was less diva, more booby trap.
Wow. You know, that's pretty fucking smart.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 And when we start doing live shows, we're doing something very similar. I'm going to request a pound of cocaine, and if it doesn't show up, I'll know that they're not going to get me M ⁇ Ms either.

Speaker 2 Well, what do we do our live studio? Remember? Yeah. Down at the studio.
Yeah, they asked me if there was a rider, and I'm like, a rider?

Speaker 2 Yes. Can I get a bottle of water, please? Yes.

Speaker 2 Can I use the elevator? Please.

Speaker 2 I'm not a fucking diva. I'm not going to ask for a rider.
That's crazy. Was it for us or for our guests? It wasn't specified in the first email, but I assumed it was for the guests.

Speaker 2 So I said, Hey, listen, water, maybe a like potato chip. I don't know, something to nibble on if they were there for an extended amount of time.
Yeah, refreshments, some soda, and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 And I'm sure they have a vending machine somewhere. Like, I don't think we need to worry about it too much.
Yeah. And I don't think we have the kind of guests that have riders.

Speaker 2 We're not asking Tom Cruise to come up. We don't need hair and makeup.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 The jazz musician who survived a plane crash then finished the gig. Oh.

Speaker 2 In 1977, jazz pianist Keith Jarrett was en route to a show in Switzerland when his plane crash-landed on the runway.

Speaker 2 The aircraft was damaged and the passengers were rattled, but Jarrett managed to walk away, went to the venue, and played an entire concert that same night.

Speaker 2 The performance was reportedly extra fiery, and Jarrett joked that it was probably because I thought I was dead. Right.

Speaker 2 The incident was never widely reported, but jazz heads still whisper about it in folklore. I I didn't know jazz heads were getting together doing folklore.
Jazz heads. I know.

Speaker 2 The whispers. The whispers.
Did you hear about Jared? He almost died. I almost took his $300 gig.

Speaker 2 Poor jazz musicians. I mean, they really get the shit under the stick.
It's the truth. And some of them are probably the most talented.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 If you're like a true, true jazz fan, like a free-form jazz exploration type of fan, you are a certain type of musical fan because jazz can be weird and wild and wonderful like Frank Zappa and the commercial break.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But the reality is, is that sometimes it's hard to follow and sometimes it's not necessary.
You have to be in the right mood for it because I love jazz. Love, love, love jazz.

Speaker 2 But yes, with the whole

Speaker 2 stuff that gets out there, you have to be in the mood for it. Yes, for sure.
Now, there's like, you know, the kind of more accessible jazz, right? Which is

Speaker 2 more melodic kind of jazzy types. Jazzy bluesy type stuff, you know, rhythmic, melodic jazz.
I love that. It can be very accessible.

Speaker 2 And oftentimes, there's beautiful musicians, and I don't mean physically, I mean like beautifully talented musicians that are playing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 But you go to like the super jazz heads, like the, you know, hey, man, scotty to do,

Speaker 2 hey, dude. You know, that crazy,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 what do they call that?

Speaker 2 Skibby de da-ba-boop-ba-badida.

Speaker 2 Skedaddling. Skedaddling.
Scat. Scat, that's right.
Yeah. Yes.
That's skedaddling. Skedaddling.
I think that's skedaddling. I think that's out of here.
Skedaddle out of here.

Speaker 2 Why don't we bring that word back? What happened to skedaddle? What a great word. It is a great word.
Skedaddle.

Speaker 2 Next time I'm like in a road rage incident, I'm going to be like, you skedaddle out of here. Tell blue.
Oh, blue. I just go, get, get,

Speaker 2 get, get, get.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 My Starbucks boyfriend, he's got a dog. That's how we met because he has this dog.
He brings up beautiful white dog. He's great.
I saw him this morning.

Speaker 2 beautiful white dog you know i mean the most beautiful coat you've ever seen on a dog and he's like a he's like a bulldog um a pit bull mix oh okay yeah

Speaker 2 but he's just the sweetest dog you've ever seen in your entire life loves everybody sniffs everybody says hello to everybody anyway uh my starbucks boyfriend he's got a something happened to his thumb last night it's like jammed it or hurt it he's like trying to hold the dog but it really hurts so the dog is barking because when the dog barks it's time he has to go right And so I said, listen, let me, let me take care.

Speaker 2 I'll, I'll go take the dog. Just trying to be nice, right? Your hand hurts.
Let me go take the dog. The dog can, it's huge.
It can yank people around. Yeah.
So I say, okay, I'll, you know, I'll go.

Speaker 2 And so I take the dog outside, does its business,

Speaker 2 listens to everything I say right next to my side.

Speaker 2 It's just like, and I go, why didn't I get this dog?

Speaker 2 What happened to this dog? And I come back and Starbucks boyfriend is like, oh, you did, you know,

Speaker 2 you're a good dog, dad. You know, thanks so much.
And I said, yeah,

Speaker 2 I have the worst dog ever. So I really appreciate it.
So this is, yeah, this is not really a chore for me. I kind of like it.
Nice.

Speaker 2 So back to jazz. There used to be a club here called Cafe 290.
Do you remember Cafe 290 behind the punchline? Might still be there. I don't know.
That's like where the real jazz heads went in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 And we would always go there. And you're right.
You have to be in the right kind of mood to listen to jazz, mainly high on cocaine.

Speaker 2 That's the kind of mood that I was in when I would listen to jazz music over there. All right, let me tell you the story about Hall and Oats because this is like the meat and potatoes.

Speaker 2 I got a few more, but we'll tell the story about Hall and Oats and wrap it up when we get back.

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Speaker 2 All right, a couple more, then I'll give you the hollow notes. Okay.

Speaker 2 The disco cat

Speaker 2 that did nothing but meow over a beat. I think I vaguely, vaguely remember something about this one when I read it last night.

Speaker 2 A mysterious artist named Moppet the Cat released a disco single in Germany called Meow Meow,

Speaker 2 which was literally just a loop of a cat meowing rhythmically. It charted in Belgium for almost a month.
The song was made as a prank by a board sound engineer testing a vocal order.

Speaker 2 It was later sampled by Berlin DJ Collective in the 2000s. Even weirder, some fans believed that the cat was real and sent fan mail to Moppet in the thousands.
Oh, God. 1983 was such a long time ago.

Speaker 2 I mean, it really was. You would never send.

Speaker 2 Do you think Taylor Swift still gets fan mail? Probably, huh? Little girls and stuff like that. Oh, yeah.
We don't get any fan mail. Actually, we do get fan mail.
I was going to say, people write us.

Speaker 2 Do you know that

Speaker 2 one of our fans, two of our fans, Jenny, and then another fan

Speaker 2 made us crochet

Speaker 2 creatures, things, and they sent them to us. That's so sweet.
I'll share it with you.

Speaker 2 I'll share it with you in a couple of weeks because there's a reason why I'm saving it, but I'll share it with you in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 The musician who quit to become a monk then returned with a techno album about enlightenment. British producer Tom Middleton of global communications fame disappeared from music in 2003.

Speaker 2 Turns out he just joined a silent Buddhist monastery in Nepal for five years.

Speaker 2 When he returned, he released a concept album titled Samasara Basseline, a binaural techno-record intended to guide listeners through the stages of awakening.

Speaker 2 Tracks include Suffering is optional, but this drop is not.

Speaker 2 Drop the beat, drop the Buddhist monastery.

Speaker 2 I bet it's good.

Speaker 2 Suffering is not real.

Speaker 2 Look for the answers inside yourself.

Speaker 2 I bet it is good, actually. Do you know? I'd like to listen to it.
Maybe I'll pull it up on Spotify one day. The Icelandic band, only using sounds from melting ice.

Speaker 2 In 2009, experimental group Glacia recorded an entire ambient album using only the sounds of ice melting, crackling, and breaking. Sounds great.

Speaker 2 They captured the noises in real time using submerged microphones and glaciers. The result? Slow collapse, a haunting meditative record that unintentionally documented climate change through rhythm.

Speaker 2 At one listening event, they served cocktails with glacial ice to complete the sonic cycle. The band dissolved after just one album.
Fittingly, just like they're a sound source.

Speaker 2 Honestly, I mean, okay, I get it. It's fun.
It's cool.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 The accordion player, who was briefly banned from Switzerland for playing, quote, way too aggressively. What?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 In Switzerland. I had no idea.
In Switzerland, aren't they pretty cool over there? Yeah, that's what I would think. I lived there for a minute.
You did.

Speaker 2 In 1992, French street performer Emilier Verdot was arrested at the Swiss border crossing after being cited in multiple towns for overly aggressive accordion technique.

Speaker 2 Locals said he slammed the keys like a demon Satan and caused distress to nearby livestock.

Speaker 2 It's got to be a joke. It's got to be a press release, somebody making a joke.
After refusing to tone it down, he was issued a 90-day ban from entering the country.

Speaker 2 He used the time to write a solo piece called The Angry Bellows. It's now taught in avant-garde accordion programs across Europe.
That's bullshit. That's not true.
There's no way that's true.

Speaker 2 The forgotten composer who made an album just for plants no i think there's a lot of people who've done this

Speaker 2 oh yeah i'm actually i follow this one guy um he does it with he makes mushroom music oh well there's lots of people who do that

Speaker 2 what do you mean mushroom music well i mean he makes it with like he puts little microphones and it like it has like a vibration the mushrooms do oh and you may and then he makes music out of it yeah yeah i see a lot of people doing like

Speaker 2 stuff with water and music. You know, they're putting them in different shapes.
I saw one where a guy blew a bubble out of a machine, like a soapy bubble, like you would with your kids, right?

Speaker 2 A bubble, just a bubble.

Speaker 2 But he managed to keep the bubble there in this machine, and then he attached microphone or speakers underneath the bubble machine and then played certain kinds of music.

Speaker 2 And you could see the music in 3D,

Speaker 2 putting light on the bubble in a certain way. I thought it was very beautiful, very interesting.
The angrier it got, the sharper the visuals got. The softer it got, the more rounded and even they got.

Speaker 2 It was very interesting. Very interesting.
Very interesting.

Speaker 2 1985, composer Gloria Hightower released Botanic Suite number one, an album of gentle classical music designed to stimulate plant and penis growth. She claimed to have tested it on her orchids.

Speaker 2 Plant and penis? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 I bet that. I threw that.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Designed to stimulate plant growth. She claimed to have tested it on her orchids and ferns.
Nothing noting leafier results.

Speaker 2 The album included whispered affirmations like, you are strong and growing green.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Layered under string arrangements. It flopped commercially.
You don't say. You don't say.

Speaker 2 But she had great plants. It became a hit in niche horticultural.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, yeah, if you're really into,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 caring up here,

Speaker 2 caring for your plants, you might get this. What is a horticulture, niche, horticultural circle?

Speaker 2 I bet it's bigger than the audience of the commercial break. Yes.
I bet you that.

Speaker 2 All right. And finally, Hall and Oates, the gunfight that brought them together.
That's so crazy. I can't wait to hear this.

Speaker 2 In 1967, Hall and Oates were both young musicians attending Temple University in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 On one particular night, they happened to be be performing with their separate bands at the Adelphi Ballroom.

Speaker 2 During a battle of the bands style event, local RB and soul groups were regular fixtures at the venue, and this night was no different.

Speaker 2 But before they could even see each other's sets, a fight broke out between two rival gangs in the audience. One of them pulled out a gun and chaos erupted.

Speaker 2 Shots were fired, people screamed, and the crowd scattered. Holland Oltz, who had never met before, both bolted for the nearest exit, which happened to be the same elevator.

Speaker 2 As the doors closed, they found themselves alone, trying to catch their breath, and they started talking. They realized they were both students.
They realized they both loved music.

Speaker 2 And that's how the duo was born. Oates later called it a moment of pure Philadelphia.
They exchanged contact info. They touched phones and exchanged contact info.
I mean, that's 1967.

Speaker 2 Within a year, they were writing music together, eventually becoming the most successful pop duo in history. Gotta be a maze balls.
Yeah. Serendipity is the only word to say there.

Speaker 2 That's the only word. Meant to come together.
Meant to come together. I mean, really, they

Speaker 2 if you were born after 1995, you may not be so familiar with the enormity of Holland Oats. Yeah, they probably don't, because their songs have been redone, you know, all over it.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I see on online, I see young bands covering their tunes in a million different ways. Sarah Smye, all of it.
Yeah. You know,

Speaker 2 you can't go for that. All of those songs being covered by Holland Oats.
They literally had a hit song every six months for like nine years.

Speaker 2 They did. Yeah.
And then like a number one. And then they were part of the whole MTV video stuff.
They weren't a TMT. Yeah.
They would come up with a new song and a new video.

Speaker 2 Like I said, every three to six months. And Holland Oats were the thing.
And the thing, what?

Speaker 2 The interesting thing is, is that Holland Oats were like not the youngest, spryest of people when MTV came along. They were in their mid-30s, late 30s, something like that.

Speaker 2 So they kind of bucked the trend of these 20-something hair bands and all that. I mean, there was Phil Collins and stuff like that, too, that were doing the videos.
Also, Peter Gabriel.

Speaker 2 Peter Gabriel were really cool. Awesome.
Sledgehammer is one of the greatest songs ever. So good.
So good.

Speaker 2 Tears for Fears, all of those bands that were playing, you know, the early Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, all of those early MTV video

Speaker 2 kind of,

Speaker 2 I don't know, video valedictorians, if you will, the people who rose to the top because those videos were so intriguing that you just tuned in to watch it. And that's it was like little mini movies.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's exactly what they were. And directors like John Landis, who did the thriller for Michael Jackson,

Speaker 2 would get involved.

Speaker 2 Steven Spielberg did some stuff for Michael Jackson. So many of these directors who were directing the music videos either were at the time or were going to become famous directors in their own right.

Speaker 2 They would make them movies. There was a plot.
There was a beginning, a middle, and an end. The story got resolved in the end most of the time.
It was a very interesting art form back then.

Speaker 2 And I'm sure that in a lot of corners. It still is a very interesting art form because people still make music videos.

Speaker 2 They just don't get consumed like they used to on one channel playing an endless loop of very popular music over and over again. MTV was a taste mix.
You need to bring it back.

Speaker 2 They did. They tried to.
Remember they had that,

Speaker 2 what was that channel? I can't remember it for the life of me, but I fucking loved it.

Speaker 2 They had a channel that would play entire live shows.

Speaker 2 Access TV? Was it Access TV? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Mark Cuban. That's Mark Cuban.
Yeah. So Access, when it first came out, would just play music videos and live concert footage.
That's what they would do. And it turned into a lot of other things now.

Speaker 2 But man, I'm telling you what,

Speaker 2 I know that commercially it's not viable. And that's why MTV doesn't play videos anymore because people can Google it and see it right then.
They're not going to sit for 30 minutes and wait.

Speaker 2 And if you're not sitting for 30 minutes, you're not watching the commercials. And if you're not watching the commercials, you're not making money.
On and on and on. I get it.
I totally understand.

Speaker 2 But it was the greatest thing in the world. It really was.
Run home from school and turn on MTV and see what was up with the music. They were taking the countdowns and all that.
Yeah, that shit.

Speaker 2 Ricky Rackman. I was a little young for Ricky Rackman, but they do the YoM TV raps.
Yo M T V raps 120 minutes. I mean all this stuff.
Like it was it was the greatest, the greatest for like 10 years.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then all of a sudden it just went away for it went away in favor of teen mom and 16 and pregnant.

Speaker 2 Yes. And I stuck with you through 16 and pregnant and teen mom.
And you know what? What did I get for it? More teen mom and 16 and pregnant. I got nothing.

Speaker 2 I saw that the 16, there was a 16 and pregnant, one of those girls, women now, I guess that the son died. The son died, and she was on season number one.

Speaker 2 16 and like teen mom, I watched, but 16 and pregnant I would watch if it was on.

Speaker 2 I no longer watch anything MTV because I'm just like, I think I've aged out of anything that they're interested in showing me.

Speaker 2 But even the teen mom has gotten kind of boring. It's gotten meta.
Like they know their stars and it's all about them, you know, their merch line and their next clothing and their

Speaker 2 energy drink and all that other other shit.

Speaker 2 But, you know,

Speaker 2 it's always sad to see that a child is died.

Speaker 2 The kid was 16 or 17 years old and they haven't said why, but I didn't recognize the mother, but it certainly was all over the news as if she was a super superstar.

Speaker 2 But, you know, 16 and Pregnant was a show on MTV that showed 16-year-olds that were pregnant.

Speaker 2 They would take them through, you know, finding some time in the early pregnancy through the delivery, and then they followed up with some of them.

Speaker 2 And it was revolutionary at the time because there were a lot of teen mothers and so they I didn't watch it, but you did I did and I always found it fascinating how these girls tried to navigate their life I mean, it's hard enough to have a kid when you're in your late 30s Let alone having one when you're in your late teens fucking insane

Speaker 2 Anyway, Hall and Oates met at a gunfight That is so crazy cool story, dude Yeah,

Speaker 2 cool story.

Speaker 2 Why don't more people know that story which one's hall and which one's oats but hall is the blonde one yeah hall is the blonde one tall blonde he's the one who was doing the thing within like his shed or something he had created a

Speaker 2 live from how

Speaker 2 live from hall's house or whatever

Speaker 2 yeah hall's barn it was so good yeah and i don't know why they don't do it anymore more mtv that couldn't well i think that was a was that a pandemic thing i don't know it was pre-pandemic but it went on during the pandemic and I think they had like five seasons of it.

Speaker 2 There's lots of musicians that have played there, but I wish he would have continued it.

Speaker 2 Because he's a great musician, and then you put him with all those other great studio musicians and another talented musician, and they mix the music. It was so good.

Speaker 2 Oh, they had CeeLo Green one time. It was fantastic.
Miley,

Speaker 2 what was that? A few people. The guy from the Eagles.

Speaker 2 Glenn Fry. Glenn Fry was there.
That was amaze balls. That was really good.

Speaker 2 Hootie from Hootie and the Blow. Darius Rucker.
That's right. Darius Rucker.
Anyway, it was a great show. Live from Daryl's house.
Go see if you can find it somewhere. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Maybe it still plays. Who knows?

Speaker 2 Yeah, PHC. Maybe it's on Axis.
Maybe.

Speaker 2 I need to go back and watch Axis more. Yeah, me too.
I only watch two channels, really.

Speaker 2 TLC and my preferred news choice. And then I'll flip around to the other news channels just to see what's going on.
But I can't even stomach five minutes of some of that.

Speaker 2 It's like way too to the left or way too to the right. And I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 Honestly, it's the same story told completely differently. Perspective.
There's no such thing as facts anymore. Nothing.
But anyway, that's a rant I don't want to get on. All right, 212-433-3TCB.

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