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Mo Amir. It is not often or ever when I can say that we are entertaining a Peabody award-winning comedian and artist, director, actor, writer.

Speaker 1 But we are today, Mo Amir.

Speaker 1 He has made quite the splash into Hollywood over the last couple of years. If you have watched his award-winning television show, Mo,

Speaker 1 then you will know that he is not only creative, he is politically active, he is outspoken, he is motivated, he is kind, he is gentle, he is all those things.

Speaker 1 And this is one of the conversations that i enjoyed most in 2025 happy to present this episode to you he's also been in crashing he has netflix specials mo amir the vagabond he was at raimi on uh i think it was on hulu yes hulu

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Speaker 1 And Mo is here with us now. Mo, I can safely say that I think you're the first Peabody Award winner to show up to the commercial.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. Well, there's a first for everything, and and your agent has led you astray.
But tell,

Speaker 3 you have.

Speaker 2 I told them I needed a break, and they were like, we got something perfect for you.

Speaker 3 I was like, what?

Speaker 1 We often say on this show that you show up for one of two reasons. You're on your way up or on your way down.
I have a feeling you're on your way up.

Speaker 2 Oh, boy. I tell you, it's a rough road.

Speaker 1 Congratulations on all the success over the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 Christy and I were just talking about the television show, which did win a Peabody Award and I mean could you have ever imagined this like yeah from here or did you did you imagine like were you is this where you wanted yeah this is where you wanted to to go yes yes I did

Speaker 2 I did I did you know I'm a dreamer you know I do

Speaker 2 I did have like a vision for myself at a very early age of what I wanted to do with my life and and what kind of stories I wanted to tell. And

Speaker 2 it's never,

Speaker 2 you know, you don't ever expect anything. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's extremely flattering, rewarding, and it feels energizing to get, of course, a Peabody or a Gotham or, you know, to be

Speaker 2 honored in a HFI, for instance, which I just didn't know how extraordinarily special that is. So

Speaker 2 yeah, so you're like there in that room and it's like your show is selected from 600. There's like 10 that they select from 600.

Speaker 2 And then like next to you, the 10 films of the year and it's everywhere all at once. And it's Spielberg and James Cameron.
You're like,

Speaker 2 what am I doing?

Speaker 3 You're right.

Speaker 3 You're right. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you do pinch yourself in that situation. You're like, oh, cool.
And then you get a letter from Spielberg saying like how much he loves the show.

Speaker 3 You're like, oh, my God. You got to look at it.

Speaker 3 I quit. Spielberg? Yeah, yeah, you quit.
Yeah. How can I do that?

Speaker 1 How can I do better than this?

Speaker 3 Come on.

Speaker 3 Nice. Mic drop money.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it's cool. It's definitely

Speaker 2 affirming, but it's, you know, this business sucks, man, because

Speaker 2 once you do that, you feel good for like two seconds and you're like, what's next? What am I going to do next? And what am I going to tell? And then season two was a big,

Speaker 2 heavy, heavy lift for me. And

Speaker 2 just emotionally, not. creatively or anything like that.
I feel like I'm built for making film and television. So it wasn't necessarily like, oh, that.

Speaker 2 It was emotionally very, very difficult and heavy.

Speaker 2 And I was just thrilled that I was able to fulfill basically everything I wanted to do with season two and then taking that into the special of Wild World. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was just very, very happy about that. But then you're like so exhausted

Speaker 2 emotionally and mentally, you're like, okay,

Speaker 2 maybe I should go raise my son for a bit.

Speaker 1 I think that people

Speaker 1 who are creative for a living, I do think that there are these deep breaths that need to be taken. Like there's these moments of

Speaker 1 you have to recharge and reflect and lean into the the things that maybe you just drove on by because things were moving so fast. And I can't imagine how it must feel.

Speaker 1 I can imagine it's hard to sit in that room, like Steven Spielberg and all these people as you were just sharing, and then go, like, really be able to suck that all in in that moment.

Speaker 1 It probably takes a moment of space when you can go, holy shit, this just all happened to me. And then you have to recharge your batteries and go do it again.
You have to go do the next thing.

Speaker 2 And that's

Speaker 1 really hard. I think, I don't know who said this.
Someone said this on our show.

Speaker 1 Another comedian said this on our show: that if you come up with one or two good hours, great hours of material in your life, then it used to be that you would be considered one of the greats.

Speaker 1 But now, right, it's like you have to come up with a great hour or two every two years, or you're not on top of the game. And so, you know, I think you're a little bit different in the sense that

Speaker 1 you're also speaking about stuff that is very close to your heart and is very serious. So it's emotionally taxing.
It's personal to you. How are you feeling now?

Speaker 1 How is the current climate feeling to you right now?

Speaker 2 Well, you touched upon a few things.

Speaker 2 First of all, like regarding the stand-up and how many hours you come up with and this and that. I think every person is different.

Speaker 2 It just depends on what you're trying to say, what you do, or you just, is there any meaning behind your work? And I think that's something that I've always wanted.

Speaker 2 What is the legacy you leave behind and what kind of stories are you telling and who's going to be able to like carry that after you you know that's something that I think about pretty frequently

Speaker 2 and also has this been done before has any of this been done before I ever heard anything like this before that's what really gets me excited and yes taking a break and taking a breath and all that is good but also it's a double-edged sword for me It's like

Speaker 2 I need to get the stuff out too, or else I feel restless. So it's like, yeah, understanding how to do that.
I don't even know how to like

Speaker 2 vacation.

Speaker 3 I really don't.

Speaker 2 Like my wife is the one that really just taught me how to do that. I don't know, even know how to do that.
It was really weird, like just to sit around and just do what? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Like it just felt odd

Speaker 2 space for me. So you try to read, you try to, you know, just process as much as you can and be present as much as you can in those moments.
But really, that's what it's about for me.

Speaker 2 It's like, what kind of stories am I telling? Have I seen anything like this before?

Speaker 2 Is it going to be interesting enough for me to

Speaker 2 keep my attention, to be honest?

Speaker 2 And that's what gets me going. And stand-up is one thing.
And, you know, I've...

Speaker 2 I'll go up on stage and I'll riff for hours, not just doing, like, you know, be inspired by the audience, but that's how I write. Everything is improvised.

Speaker 2 So when you think of like constructing a particular hour that's encapsulating something, what is it, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 And for me, with Wild World, it's kind of buttoning up what I did with season two of Mo and just bringing that chapter to a close so I can move on and do the next thing.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, that's what it was for me. And I feel like I captured the time in Wild World.
And that's my son letting you know that

Speaker 2 I have not done that.

Speaker 2 He's calling me out right now.

Speaker 3 Well, welcome to the show, my little buddy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Sorry, guys.

Speaker 3 No, you don't be sorry. Okay, as long as you're okay with it, I'm fine with it.
We have a dog that barks every episode.

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Speaker 1 vacuums. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 I feel great. No, no vacuums.
Vacuum's got to be the worst.

Speaker 2 But no, no, it's genuinely like with Wild World, I really wanted to capture the time. And that's why, like, the closer, even of the special is all about time, how we make use of our time.

Speaker 2 It's kind of like this poem, this reflection, this bit, sometimes funny, sometimes mostly reflective. And

Speaker 2 I wrote that like the day before I filmed the special.

Speaker 3 Wow. Wow.

Speaker 2 And it was like four pages long and I was just panicking, but I was also really inspired and I had to do it. This is like something that I had to do.

Speaker 2 And you talk about like, oh, you got to take a year or two years to develop material. That's true.

Speaker 2 But sometimes you got to have the guts to follow your instincts and to understand like, oh, you got to follow your inspiration and the things things that you write you got to believe in and then you push forward and and you put yourself and everybody else around you in a slight panic attack but when you're done it's it's uh it's tremendous you know and that's how I feel about it do you find those moments of inspiration are some of your best like I think

Speaker 2 yes yeah yeah yeah they are because you know I wonder how many people actually have those moments and they they get too scared or their fear stops them from doing it I think most yeah yeah yeah and I think the the with season of Making My Show, I can't tell you how many times I rewrote stuff on set that took it from like a B plus to an A plus.

Speaker 2 There's so many moments that just elevated things or changed a setup, which is, you know, not easy to do when you're under that kind of stress of finishing at a certain time.

Speaker 2 And, you know, there's all these implications if you don't execute, you know, especially on a film set,

Speaker 2 a TV set, you know, it just causes a tremendous domino effect.

Speaker 2 So you have to really be on top of it and understand like what story you're trying to tell and really believe in those instincts and know how to execute. And I find myself, I'm really great at it.

Speaker 2 Like this is actually the thing I work best with my

Speaker 2 back and under pressure.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I get bored. I get bored if it's, there's no, I'm like, ah, whatever, we'll do it later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel that sense of urgency too is that when so when there's a fire under my ass, I get there's motivation there.

Speaker 1 And I find what I call, you know, moments of creativity, I think, are just moments of God, right?

Speaker 1 It's just like you're shutting off, something's allowing you to just like channel whatever is coming through.

Speaker 1 And I don't find those in moments of like, you know, just sitting around thinking about it.

Speaker 1 I find it when it happens in the moment, when the pressure's on, there he comes, there, he or she comes, right?

Speaker 2 Well, I think it's a combo.

Speaker 3 I think exactly.

Speaker 2 I think it's a combination of all those things. I think it's all those hours you spent before that moment,

Speaker 2 you know, like you spend weeks and weeks and months and maybe years

Speaker 2 of thinking about something

Speaker 2 and then you write it out and then you go film it and then you see it and you go, wait, wait, wait. I got it now.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So you can't discount all that effort that happened before. It's really like inspired in the moment because you've spent so much time nurturing it.
Yeah. So that's

Speaker 2 that's how it to me. That's that's how it works for me at least like where I spend all this time and then in the moment you're like wait wait this is wrong.

Speaker 2 It's not completely wrong, but if you tweak this,

Speaker 2 you'll get to something really special. And you do.
Most of the time you do. And if it sucks, you got to be honest with yourself and tell your ego to shut up.
And you're like, this sucks.

Speaker 2 You got to cut this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's true.

Speaker 1 I love hearing you describe your own creative process. Do you have people around you that you trust? Or does this come from Mo?

Speaker 1 Like, are you the ultimate arbiter of what's coming out of your brain? Or are there people around you, like your wife or a friend or a producer or whoever, that goes, hey, Mo, not this, that?

Speaker 2 I'm pretty much the first guy that'll say that, to be honest.

Speaker 2 And then I'll have people that I'll show it to, and that could tell right away.

Speaker 2 You know, I could tell if this is good or not, because I'm a big believer in like necessarily notes, but first reactions, right?

Speaker 2 And then I'll see if I actually communicated what I wanted in a particular scene or in a stand-up bit or whatever. You'll see it right away.
And then you'll be like, oh, I I know how to fix this.

Speaker 2 I didn't do my job fully here. Let me fix that.
And then you'll tweak it. And then you'll get what you want out of it.
That's usually how I operate.

Speaker 2 Like with the series and everything, like just me and my editors, we just, from episode to episode, we just flip, you know, we swap back and forth. And, you know, every second is accounted for.

Speaker 2 Every everything. Even when we were scoring the show, I'd go and...
Score the show with the band and sit together and be like, ah, this didn't sound right.

Speaker 2 And switch this, do that, go faster here, you know, And I don't know, I don't know anything about scoring show, but I can feel it and I can know it. And you see it

Speaker 2 and just make adjustments. So there's every part of it like I was

Speaker 2 meticulously involved with. There's not literally, there's not a second that's not accounted for.
And maybe like the opening of season two, I spent like 100 hours on, maybe more. Geez.

Speaker 2 It's like the first minute.

Speaker 3 The first minute. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Even for the special, the opening shadow, I spent like 70 hours on, something like that. Just the walking through Washington, D.C.
on my shadow. You love this process, huh? No, I don't.
It sucks.

Speaker 2 Oh, you don't?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 2 Not this part. I mean, not this part.

Speaker 3 No, not this part, but I'm saying the whole, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Like, not the, not that, like, you know, every single minute of, you know, being in with the band.

Speaker 3 You, the, yeah, the band stuff was awesome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the band stuff is awesome. Music is everything.
It could turn you off also right away if it doesn't work well.

Speaker 2 I mean, whoever's scoring the show, they have to know what your intention is with, you know, how you're directing things, or how you put it together, and how you edit it.

Speaker 3 They don't know.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 mean you got to like help them out do the to do their job yeah so so you know and i enjoyed that aspect immensely but you know just spending hours and hours in a dark room you know editing everything going over a particular

Speaker 2 not to edit but like if you're particularly focusing on a particular montage or thing you just you know it just sucks it's not fun yeah at some point you want to just pull your ears off your face you know like your head you know it's like not fun

Speaker 2 you pull your eyelashes out. It's not good.
No, no, no. It's painful.
It's very painful.

Speaker 1 Oh, you have a talent for it, though. I mean, there's what comes out of it.

Speaker 2 So it still sucks.

Speaker 2 It still hurts. No, no, no.
But like, but like when you put it together and everything is there, it's extremely rewarding, obviously.

Speaker 2 And that's that's cool. And, you know, that's why I really enjoyed the premiere of

Speaker 2 season two, like, you know, people seeing

Speaker 2 it with like, you know, 300 people in a theater.

Speaker 3 Did you go do that? That was cool. You see, said watch it with 300 people.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, of course. Yeah, it was so cool to see that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I think that would be

Speaker 1 like when you do a podcast, and you know this too because you've been a part of one. Like when you do a podcast, you're talking into a microphone, it goes into the void, right?

Speaker 1 You never see anybody's reaction. Maybe somebody writes or calls or texts or whatever.

Speaker 3 Sure.

Speaker 1 But it goes into a void. And I think what would feel gratifying to me is to see people react to the work that you put out there in real time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in real time. That to me would be like the ultimate, you know, just that's why stand-up is so

Speaker 2 rewarding, but also like you get your response right away. They'll tell you if it sucks, it doesn't immediately.
Or if it's interesting, though, you could tell they're with you. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like what you're talking about, they're still engaged.

Speaker 3 There's like an energy in the room.

Speaker 1 You're playing with the energy, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're playing for yours. Exactly, exactly.
You could tell. As long as you keep them interested, that's all that really matters.
You always find the joke and you find the thing.

Speaker 2 But if you're just wandering around, then they'll start wandering.

Speaker 2 If you don't have them captivated, then they'll just like stop listening.

Speaker 3 Do you,

Speaker 1 I'm interested to know,

Speaker 1 do those moments still happen to you often? Because if you're, because you mentioned that a lot of what you do is improvised, right?

Speaker 1 And you're doing it on the flyer, you're finding inspiration moments before, a day before, whatever.

Speaker 1 Do you find that there are are moments when you throw something out there, the audience doesn't react, and you're feeling some like, I don't know, I'm kind of stressed.

Speaker 2 I don't feel anything inside. It's just like, you know, whenever you're starting at zero, like I am after the special release, you're just, I like to get back in the swing of things.

Speaker 2 And the way I do that is just being as natural as possible, which means that there's nothing prepared. I'm going up on stage.
I'm going to be in the moment.

Speaker 2 The audience will inspire something or not and then I'll figure it out, you know,

Speaker 2 and then and then you'll end up like on stage

Speaker 2 Again the last three days I did like not this this past week. I did like six hours of stand-up in three days We're just on stage for two hours two and a half to twenty Wow, where do you do that?

Speaker 2 We don't even know I was doing them in Houston in my hometown with this small room called the box inside the secret group. It's like a music like Rock venue.
It's fun. It's really really fun.

Speaker 2 So you just do these pop-ups in Houston and and I just like doing it. It's just so much fun and it's like the pure stand-up of it all like I really really enjoy it

Speaker 2 but that's how I'll do it and then you'll find stuff and you'll build stuff from there and then

Speaker 2 you know you'll just keep doing that over and over again and somebody will tell you or be like oh the thing you did I was like oh yeah that's that's a good one I should work on that

Speaker 3 remind me of that

Speaker 2 yeah exactly exactly exactly that's why I film everything so that's the process though everything is completely just freestyle and, you know, and just very natural and organic and in the moment.

Speaker 2 And then you'll run into stuff that you wouldn't think about. And sometimes I'll do this where I'll be like, oh, before the show even starts, this is just like in the building stage.

Speaker 2 I'll be like, hey, write down like a subject and it'll put it in a bucket form and have it on the side.

Speaker 2 And after like an hour, hour and a half of being on stage, I'm like, all right, let's see what's in the bucket. And they'll reach in the bucket.

Speaker 2 And there'll be a topic and people that you could just tell what's, it's almost like having a focus group. Yeah.
and you could see what's on people's minds yeah

Speaker 2 and some of it's silly some of it is topical some of it's political it just depends everyone's different some of it is just outright silly and gross you know like people are gross sometimes

Speaker 2 which is fun you know it's also fun yeah um it's a nice mix-up but that's uh I think that spontaneity is very important

Speaker 2 in stand-up, at least for me, just to

Speaker 2 keep that like organic, natural feel to it.

Speaker 1 And you're asking the audience to get to get involved. You're reacting to it instantaneously.
That takes an immense amount of,

Speaker 1 I think,

Speaker 1 presence and talent. Like it's that's not the easiest thing in the world to do.
There are so many stand-up comics, and we've talked to so many of them. And you know that, and that's and it's okay too.

Speaker 1 You know, they build this set meticulously, word for word, over and over again, rinse and repeat until they get it to a place where they feel like the audience is going to react the way that they want them to react.

Speaker 1 And that's okay.

Speaker 2 That's it's essentially no that's no that's so that's so i'm telling we're talking about different stages right yeah yeah so in the early on in the reconstruction stage i will do that i will be completely freestyle everything there and then you'll start building building building refinement refinement refinement and then you build out from the you go from like for me i'll do like an 80 seater 100 seater and just do like 30 of them you know 30 of these shows

Speaker 2 uh pop-ups maybe same day pop-ups i'm like i feel like doing something today put a post to see who shows up and and let's have a good time. And, you know, and then that's how I build it.

Speaker 2 And then you'll build the actual set and then you'll go to bigger venues. You'll go to comedy clubs.
You work in 500 theaters, you know, for a whole week doing six, seven shows a week.

Speaker 2 And then from there, you'll go, okay, now it's ready. Let's go on the theater.

Speaker 1 You've got your beat. You know where you're going to go.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And you still hit it. When you do those big theaters, do you also leave?

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm just curious if you leave that room for the inspiration, for the improvisation in those those big scenes always yeah i don't do like the bucket thing or anything like that people usually when they want to come out to the theater they expect a show right so it's like you got to give them a show and that's why it's like i've i did that for the last you know year straight um

Speaker 2 and you know it's fun it's incredible it's it was really um a pretty special experience uh post season two leading up to the special wild world that's on netflix no no streaming

Speaker 3 link in the show

Speaker 3 listeners yep

Speaker 2 It was really extraordinary to go around the world with my family and my kiddo and

Speaker 2 just to have that shared experience with the audience and how special that was to hit up like 30 countries in a very short period of time.

Speaker 2 And to do all these theaters was really, really cool.

Speaker 2 And to be honest with you, it was really draining because of the subject matter, because of what I felt and what was going on and what's still happening.

Speaker 2 That's why I'm going back to these small rooms and trying to find myself again, trying to find like some joy in it again because the stakes feel so high.

Speaker 3 They are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they are. They absolutely are.

Speaker 3 They are.

Speaker 1 You are

Speaker 1 have not, I believe in your, at least since I've been aware of you, have not shied away from speaking up and speaking out about things you feel very strongly about

Speaker 3 as you should. It's important, right?

Speaker 1 But that raises the stakes in the room. It raises the stakes with you.

Speaker 1 And I mean, this is a conscious choice you're making from a, I'm sure, from a deep place of empathy and want for the world to understand the perspective that you bring is that that must be like emotionally taxing.

Speaker 1 You just said 30, 30 countries, you know, and however many bring going all around the world, traveling and then getting up and talking about the subject matter night after night while the world is literally crumbling around you.

Speaker 1 That must be very tough.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yes, Oprah.
Thank you. So you're about to make me cry here right now.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 God jamma. Gotcha.
Good job. God damn it.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, so hard.

Speaker 3 Help me.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. We love you, bro.
We love you.

Speaker 5 Different places react differently.

Speaker 3 I'm sure they do.

Speaker 2 I think it's for, I mean, it's been pretty universal, to be honest with you. I haven't had any issues.
I think everyone feels

Speaker 2 pretty clear that you you shouldn't,

Speaker 3 you know, obliterate another country.

Speaker 2 Obliterate an entire civilized population. I think that's totally okay to say out loud.
Yeah. Which is nuts to say about the world today that

Speaker 2 is controversial to say.

Speaker 1 It is nuts to say. And I have to think that we as human beings are at a point when we can agree that this kind of absolute, and I'm just going to say it like I see it, tyranny is fucked up.

Speaker 1 It's just fucked up. And it took two years almost, year and a half almost

Speaker 1 for the world to rally and say, okay, enough is enough, something needs to be done. And in that time, so many lives lost.

Speaker 1 The complete decimation of a people of a country that wasn't doing all that well in the first place because of more tyranny. It's just insane to think that anybody would disagree with that.

Speaker 1 But there are, I mean, you know, listen, there are, there's always contrarians, I guess, in the group.

Speaker 2 I watched you. Yeah, there's devils.
There's devils out there.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 2 there's devils that don't really feel like we should all get along and have

Speaker 2 everyone has a right to exist and have right to food, water, and shelter. There's people that actually believe that.

Speaker 3 Do you know what that means?

Speaker 3 It's scary. That's scary.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there are people that actually believe that. And for me, you always knew I was going to make it.
I always knew I was like, you asked me this question before. Did you really imagine for yourself?

Speaker 2 And I do. Sometimes want to be like, yeah, I never did, but I saw it.
No, I did. I did.
And I'm grateful that I did. I'm grateful that

Speaker 2 I felt that in my gut and I've and I followed my gut, which is a big gut. But it has, you know, and it was right.
That's what, that's what matters most.

Speaker 2 But I didn't think it was going to be under these type of circumstances. I certainly didn't think I was going to be meeting a lot of these children.

Speaker 2 And I didn't feel, you know, I never thought I'd imagine I'd meet these doctors that were there on the ground. So there is an immense responsibility.

Speaker 2 You know, everyone that I've ever looked up to before in my entire life

Speaker 2 has spoken up, you know, Especially when it pertains to their people.

Speaker 3 When it matters.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 some that don't, it's like just, you know, it doesn't matter if there's their people or not. But again, who's their people? It's just human beings on this earth.

Speaker 2 We come from different walks of life. We come from different backgrounds.
We can learn from each other and respect one another. And once you see another people as a lower,

Speaker 2 then we're done for. We're touched.

Speaker 2 So it's just like, hey, there is a absolute human responsibility not even like me as a Palestinian responsibility no as a human being to to say this is wrong that's the very that's the most that's a marina like basic bare minimum thing you could do so I would do that for any other people I would do that for any situation that I feel like is absolutely wrong and I know it's wrong and I'm seeing it with my own eyes and I've held these kids like I've they've come to my shows I've taken pictures of them they've given me like this, just you know, when you're getting squeezed by a kid that's like lost their mom and dad, and they're like missing a limb, you're like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 You're like, I quit, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, this is nothing else matters. Like, of course, I have to, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, amplify this. You know, there's no other way.
And, you know, again, this is part of the beauty of stand-up and making television.

Speaker 2 And I was in a unique situation where I had a TV show where it's a Palestinian family that's living in Houston.

Speaker 2 And, you know, that you get to tell this type of story and the stand-up of it all, it's what makes, you know, the art fun or interesting or challenging is that you're able to like walk this tightrope while people are shooting lasers at you and you get to the other side, you're like, whoa,

Speaker 3 that was intense.

Speaker 3 We did that. We did that.
Yeah. We did that.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 Do you have any

Speaker 1 optimism?

Speaker 1 You seem like you might be an optimistic kind of guy. Do you have optimism that things work out between

Speaker 1 with this current situation between Palestine and Israel?

Speaker 2 Well, it hasn't before. So it's been going on for 80 plus years.
So

Speaker 2 of course I'm always hopeful.

Speaker 3 I never lose hope.

Speaker 2 But, you know, you could tell people's intentions are not. not

Speaker 2 haven't been right for a very long time. This has not just happened after October 7th.
This is super annoying that it just keeps.

Speaker 2 This is like the thing where people look at where it's,

Speaker 2 you could say, a hundred years. It's been over a hundred years.
I mean, since World War I, since they were fleeing there as refugees to come to Palestine and they were taken in

Speaker 2 colonization, and I don't want to have a history lesson here on the show, but it's been going on for quite some time.

Speaker 2 And Palestinians have been under, you know, a pretty brutal occupation in the West Bank and living at apartheid. And that's not me saying it.

Speaker 2 It's every single you know, respected institution on planet Earth that's saying that. So I'm not saying that.
So I'm just telling you what it is. And that's what episode eight is.

Speaker 2 And in season two of Mo was really trying to just bring that home and literally bring the family home and for people to see what it's like to actually even travel there as Palestinians.

Speaker 2 Just to see, like my mom, like my own mom who's born there, who's from there,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 and her sisters and family is there.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I was starting telling my wife yesterday, like, I feel such a deep like sadness that I can't go take my son to his great-grandparents' house, who he's named after, and just have a summer there, you know, and just get to see the family.

Speaker 2 There's like a sense of like, I've been robbed. And I say this in my special.
It's like my mom says this to me, like, I feel like I'm living the same life as my grandmother's.

Speaker 2 And this is what inspired the time bit. It was like, time is undefeated.
Time is fleeting. Time flies.
And you can never go back in time. Yeah.
And,

Speaker 2 you know, that's what inspired everything with the time bit itself at the end of the special.

Speaker 1 It's beautiful. You know, my wife is Venezuelan, and we talk about this often.

Speaker 2 I can't talk to you anymore.

Speaker 3 I don't talk to Venezuelans.

Speaker 2 I have so many friends that are married. No, I'm just teasing you.

Speaker 1 Come on. You have a lot of friends.
I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 You have friends that are married to Venezuelans?

Speaker 2 Yes, I do. I do.
I have a very dear friend with you just

Speaker 2 six months in. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, congratulations. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 Welcome to the show. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Family.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 a beautiful people of the Venezuelans also. And they also robbed, I mean, in a different way, but everything's different, but kind of the same.
And they are also disparate people all around the world.

Speaker 1 And we talk about this often that I now have children who the best part of them is Venezuelan.

Speaker 1 And there is little to no chance, at least not right now, that we could go back and they could go see their grandparents in their native, you know, part where their mom lives.

Speaker 2 Excuse my ignorance, ignorance, but why can't she go back?

Speaker 1 She could go back, but it would put her and the children in danger because Venezuela is not necessarily, it's not as dangerous as Palestine, but there is a very oppressive government.

Speaker 1 And anytime you leave and you come back, say you become a U.S. citizen and you go back, you could, but then you bring American children into the situation.

Speaker 1 It could be dangerous. And the Maduran government could

Speaker 1 at any time for any reason decide that they don't like you and you end up somewhere disappeared.

Speaker 1 And this has happened to Americans. Actually, we just got four Americans back who spent a long time in Venezuelan prison

Speaker 1 because they said the wrong thing about the government.

Speaker 1 And I have not always, and I'm also not a hugely public figure, but I'm a public figure and said some things on the show that I feel strongly about.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I could have a lot of people. Not a good idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, not a good idea.

Speaker 1 It just puts everybody in danger for no reason, right?

Speaker 2 I get it. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 But at some point, hopefully, you know, in the near future,

Speaker 1 things change, but

Speaker 1 you remain hopeful, but you don't get yourself too excited because you never know what's around the world.

Speaker 2 Well, the good news is it seems like

Speaker 2 the light at the end of the talk shouldn't say good news, but it feels like it's like you can still retain like your lands and the ownership of lands, and that can still be there.

Speaker 2 And then eventually, when it turns around, you can just go home, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. Eventually, yes.

Speaker 1 It's different in that situation where in Palestine,

Speaker 1 who knows what happens? I mean,

Speaker 1 turned it into the

Speaker 2 beach resort.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's disgusting. Yeah, it's happening.
They're bulldozing and clearing it out right now. There's no intention.
Yeah, I just saw it today, this morning.

Speaker 2 They're like bulldozing all the rubble and everything.

Speaker 2 It's clearly, it's very, very clear that the intention was just decimate, move them all out, put them in tents, you know, refugee kill whoever you can. That's fine.

Speaker 2 Hospital, dude, hospitals, churches, mosques, libraries, doesn't matter. Decimate, eliminate history, you know, and then you can just, you know, rebuild on dead people and it's crazy.

Speaker 2 It's fucking bananas.

Speaker 1 Build Trump Palestine.

Speaker 2 It's goddamn bananas.

Speaker 1 It is goddamn bananas. And I'm, I, I have friends that are

Speaker 1 Palestinian and they have amplified your voice by sharing your reels and talking and all this other stuff. And so I think it's you met the moment, right?

Speaker 1 And that's, that's amazing that you met the moment. You met the time.

Speaker 2 And I just feel like making something that's timely and timeless, you know? And that's like talking about legacy and what you leave behind. It takes us back to what I was saying there.

Speaker 2 And I think it's really important to do so. And

Speaker 2 I am looking forward to this next phase as well. And

Speaker 2 just trying to see what I come up with and right next that can maybe just find some kind of...

Speaker 2 some kind of happiness and fun in it again because it's just been super super heavy and I think just like just going to like pure filmmaking and and just doing something dope and funny and thoughtful still still subversive, but

Speaker 2 in a different direction than I did before. For sure, like just in this phase of like reinventing

Speaker 3 myself in a way.

Speaker 3 I got to think here we go.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but you're a dad now. There's a lot of material there.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You would think, but the guy doesn't like me. He doesn't walk me.

Speaker 2 He wants nothing to do with me. He's just still is on his mother's teeth.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's it.

Speaker 2 That's all he wants. What do you have to offer? Do you have milk?

Speaker 3 Can you just know? Get out of here. You You have more

Speaker 1 comfort? Yeah, I don't care for your funny faces, man.

Speaker 2 It's the eye contact while he's breastfeeding is what's so concerning.

Speaker 3 You know?

Speaker 2 Said side-eye, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 He's true. It is so true.

Speaker 2 It's like, bro, what are you looking at me like in that book?

Speaker 3 How you doing?

Speaker 2 It's very depressing. Yeah, exactly.
And you try to get near it. He's like,

Speaker 2 he just smacks me right in the face.

Speaker 2 And then I like pretend to cry. I've done everything.
I'm like, pretend to cry. Like, you can't hit me in the face.
Don't hit me in the face.

Speaker 3 Like, I can't do it.

Speaker 2 It's like all these levels of, hey, don't hit me in the face. And

Speaker 2 he could care less. You moving on.

Speaker 3 Get out of here. All right.

Speaker 2 How born kisser each?

Speaker 1 You will be surprised. One day, when he's off the teeth, that little kid is going to start looking at you in a different way.
And then you guys are going to be buddies forever.

Speaker 3 Best friends for life.

Speaker 2 That's if I let him forget it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't let him forget it. You got to remind him when he's 20.

Speaker 2 I might be like, no, sorry, buddy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, try.

Speaker 2 You had your chance. You You know, I'm not going to sit here and just like be a pushover.

Speaker 1 You think I'm going to wait forever for you?

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 2 You want me to raise you now?

Speaker 3 No, buddy.

Speaker 2 You got YouTube videos to show you how to

Speaker 3 be a man.

Speaker 3 They do. There's that dad, YouTube dad.
That's it. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 I would be so heartbroken.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 If I walk in and my son's like, oh, I'm good.

Speaker 2 I got a YouTube father now.

Speaker 3 It's all happening.

Speaker 3 Oh, God. It's all happening.
In some ways, I'm happy.

Speaker 2 I think I would snap the iPad and

Speaker 2 I would snap at you again, I think.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I would snap.

Speaker 2 Talk, talk.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're okay.

Speaker 1 You're funny.

Speaker 3 It's just really funny.

Speaker 1 In some ways, I'm happy the YouTube dad is there because I don't have some of the skills the YouTube dad has. So I'm going to go talk to YouTube dad.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Go find out from YouTube.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm the kind of crazy, though. Like, while YouTube dad is doing one of these videos, I would just roll up on him mid-video.

Speaker 2 But you think you're better than me.

Speaker 2 You think you got more skill sets than me, boy pal? I don't know why I would be speaking.

Speaker 3 Why would you be testing some good fellas?

Speaker 2 Because it's intimidating. You think you can teach my kid better than me?

Speaker 3 Forget about it. Come here.

Speaker 1 And you could do it. You got the look.
You got the look.

Speaker 2 Forget about it.

Speaker 3 What are you doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Come here, funny man.

Speaker 3 Come here. You're funny?

Speaker 3 Come here, YouTube dad.

Speaker 2 My son loves you more than me.

Speaker 2 I just go up and just snap on him. I got to look this guy up.
I really got to look this guy up. I got to be on the lookout for this guy.

Speaker 3 He's there.

Speaker 2 He's very popular. But I shouldn't do it.
Then he'll be in the family algorithm.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's going to be in the family.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 2 He's going to get served. No, no.
Can't do it.

Speaker 3 Don't do it.

Speaker 1 You got to go on private and then

Speaker 1 find him.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And just go out of town for a week and come back.
And my wife is like content with YouTube.

Speaker 3 A YouTube father and dad.

Speaker 2 She's got a YouTube husband and a YouTube dad.

Speaker 2 But I'm so sick as an artist. I'll be like, well, I can get another like 10 minutes out of that.

Speaker 3 See, you're already thinking.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm so sick, though. You know, and I could write a movie about this.
It's sad, but funny, and also

Speaker 2 very in the moment. No, I'm scared.

Speaker 3 It's very now.

Speaker 2 Very now.

Speaker 1 What? Uh, I have a question from way back in the beginning of the conversation. I remember it.
Look at my brain. Oh, wow.
You're really where do you like when you go on vacation?

Speaker 1 When your wife says, Okay, Mo, we got to slow down. You got to take a vacation.
You got to learn. Where do you guys, what's your, what's your vibe? Is it like sitting on the beach?

Speaker 2 Or oh, I don't, it's like the worst to beach, you know? Really?

Speaker 2 Like, who likes to swim in the beach? I do.

Speaker 2 Why? Why are you putting yourself out there like that?

Speaker 3 Like, I'm capable of surviving the beach.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's like, stop it.
No, I do like the sounds of the beach. I like the combination of like mountain beach situations for me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I think I prefer that over like cold vacation. I don't want to like, I don't want to go ski.

Speaker 3 Like, what's the meaning?

Speaker 2 Like, you're up there, you're 9,000 above sea level, you can barely breathe.

Speaker 2 You're just expected to go on this little thing and then go down the slopes. Like you're out of your mind, everybody.

Speaker 3 You're going to break a leg.

Speaker 2 It's the best. Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 I think I did the, what do you call it?

Speaker 2 Not a jet ski, but the snowmobile. The snowmobile, yeah, yeah.
I got sick. I got sick the next day.
I got sick. I got a huge, like a massive fever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because I'm like riding at 60 miles an hour in the mountains in 20 miles.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was below zero. It was like so.
cold and it was Montana. It was like five degrees.

Speaker 2 Even though I was wearing the spacesuit or the snow thing, I still got sick. Everyone's in the hotels, got tracking and snow everywhere.
It's melting inside the hotel.

Speaker 2 Everybody's click-clacking with their boots inside. I'm like, this is the worst.
I'm sorry. This is like the worst vacation possible.
So, yes, I will take, I'm a boat guy. I like boats.

Speaker 2 I'll do a boat on the water. I'll do that.
I like lakes, probably like good lakes more than oceans because I just don't trust.

Speaker 2 I respect the ocean. I got a massive amount of respect for the

Speaker 2 so powerful. Like, I don't want to mess with you.
Like, I don't want to, I'm a great swimmer, but not good enough to beat an ocean.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I could hold my breath like 45 seconds with no rehearsal, like, no practice, probably like 35, 40. And because he's going toast, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Like, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 I'm not doing it. But I'll anchor somewhere and take, like, a, as long as I could see what's happening under there.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 2 I'm okay. We went to Mexico.
I think we went to Cabo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Cabo is beautiful.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Or we went to Puerto Varta as well, and we saw all the, it was like whale season, which is my favorite. And we went whale watching.
That was so cool. And then he anchored and we're in the water.

Speaker 2 And I could just feel the vibrations of the whales. There's so many whales.
And then one came up probably like 20 feet away from me.

Speaker 3 Amazing.

Speaker 2 While I was in the amazing my ass.

Speaker 3 I scared the shit out of you.

Speaker 2 It just, I was just like, I'm out of here. I'm out of here.
I was like, get me out of here. I was like, I'm sitting up there.
What am I doing? guy's, these things weigh tons.

Speaker 2 What am I doing with myself? And my wife was, she was like paddleboarding and

Speaker 2 she had the surfboard. And she's like, I can't even see her anymore.
I'm like, babe, I was like, honey, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 So far. She was like, just reel me in.

Speaker 3 I was like, you're not connected to the boat.

Speaker 2 There's no rope. And she started freaking out.

Speaker 3 She's like, oh my God, I'm not going to be in that boat.

Speaker 2 I was like, no, how long do you think this rope is

Speaker 3 two football fields away from me.

Speaker 2 You think to have rope this long? Come over. There's whales coming out of the water.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it's a little tense, I think.

Speaker 3 I agree.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 I think I'm good with that. I love to swim.

Speaker 2 I do enjoy that. So, yeah, I don't.
I'm just, I joke about the thing. But I like the ones, the ocean that has the netting, you know, they have it blocked off of you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get cords where they, yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I want to get in those. It's netted.
I'm good to go. If something gets in, it's just very tiny.
I can deal with it. I agree with you.
But that's it. Like Australia, I'll never swim in Australia.

Speaker 2 Fuck. I have no desire.

Speaker 1 I don't have any.

Speaker 1 I like Australians, but I have zero desire to spend a lot of time anywhere in Australia because everything can kill you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, even Australians say it.

Speaker 1 It's not like some troops.

Speaker 2 Oh, they go swimming all the time. Yeah, Bondi Beach.
They're just having such a great time. Bondi Beach.
And then I saw this documentary about microscopic jellyfish. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's a microscopic jellyfish you can only see it through a microscope and it can kill you like instantly within minutes yeah yeah it's like it's it's microscopic it's i have no chance yeah i have no chance i saw this too it's like the blue jelly the blue finged jellyfish or something and it's got the most it's like the most poisonous substance known to man and they're not aggressive but if you happen to you know swat at it or something and it attaches to you and like stings you you're dead

Speaker 1 nothing that they can do about it they can hope that your body survives it but very few people do.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 1 that's only found in Australia. It's like all the other terrible things.

Speaker 3 I love Australia, by the way.

Speaker 1 We love Australia, but

Speaker 2 I was just in Australia. I don't care.
Yeah, say what cares.

Speaker 3 They know. We'll stick to Outback.
Yeah, they know. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 We'll stick to Outback Steakhouse.

Speaker 3 That's right.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Foster's Australian for beer. No, it's not.
Nobody drinks Foster's in Australia.

Speaker 1 They lied to you. Well, the good news is no one drinks it here either.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 1 I used to drink those oil cans, and then I was like, what am I doing?

Speaker 3 I look like a moron. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I look like a fucking child. You got like a mini keg in your hand?

Speaker 2 This guy's got a problem.

Speaker 3 I look like a child.

Speaker 1 Mo's new special is available. There are links in the show notes and then season one, season two are available too of his award-winning, Peabody award-winning show, Mo.

Speaker 1 I thank you for coming on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, thanks for coming on. It's been great.

Speaker 2 Oh, thank you for having me. You had a blast.

Speaker 1 You are welcome anytime. And we're rooting for you.
And we hope to see you again soon. Thanks.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much. Much love, guys.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Good love to you. Me too.
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Speaker 1 Mr. Mo Amir, Peabody Award winning Mo Amir.
I keep saying it as if as if it's a credit to the commercial break that he won a Peabody Award.

Speaker 1 Gotham Awards, Independent Spirit Award. I think he was nominated for a couple of Emmys.

Speaker 1 That guy's got quite the resume, I do have to say, and I really enjoyed our conversation with him.

Speaker 1 It's fun to talk to all the comedians, and a lot of times it's shits and giggles, but at times it's fun to go deeper. And Mo was the perfect candidate for that.
You know, I do.

Speaker 1 I do like to read Ram Das, in case you didn't hear.

Speaker 1 All right, Mo Amir, a bunch of stuff in the show notes. You can go check it out.

Speaker 1 Thanks again to him and to his agent agent for setting that up

Speaker 1 great fantastic all right here's how the rest of the week is going to roll out you're going to check us out again on friday we'll have a tcb classic and then for christmas week we'll have another tcb infomercial on wednesday another tcb classic and then we return live to the studio uh right before the new year and then after the new year we'll be on our regular schedule tuesday and thursday recording episodes live in the studio you can join us on youtube.com/slash the commercial break or you can check us out on Twitch.

Speaker 1 You can get involved in the conversation. You can even join live via video.
We will start taking some folks into the room with us and having some fun.

Speaker 1 So it's a little fresh coat of paint for season number seven.

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Speaker 1 Otherwise, hit us up on Instagram, tcbpodcast.com for your free sticker. We look forward to season number seven.
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Best to you. And until next time, I will say, I do say, and I must say, good fucking bye.

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