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Short girls,

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Some of us didn't

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That's a very nice way of making yourself feel better about it.

How short are you?

You don't seem that short.

Well, my jeans.

I didn't ask for the backstory.

You could have just went 311.

Wait, you all right because when I asked I told you that this is how it started I won't finish it.

You went well my jeans

I don't know what's going to come next right now.

Your jeans are actually capris

your jeans are capri pants?

So that's a capri pant is usually supposed to show up like a whole ass calf.

What are you really?

I am.

You really are five foot?

All right.

I like to say five one, but.

You like to say five one, but you were honest the first time.

So twelve.

Yeah.

Anyone here shorter than five feet?

I didn't mean to do that to you.

I was trying to help you out.

I'd be like, you see, that person's 4'10.

But man, it was silent in here.

I mean, you could have heard a small person drop.

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I cannot believe what I do.

I can't believe it.

I can't believe I, I don't know how I

truly to this day think all the time that I, all I ever wanted to be was a comic, and that's what I am, and that's what I, what supports my life.

I,

I swear to you, I think about it all the time.

I can't believe I got a show on television that stayed on.

I can't believe I do stand up as a professional comedian.

Like, I, I just can't believe it.

But, um,

you know, it just was about exactly, it was a lot of luck, a lot of hard work, a lot of rejection.

And then at some point, you create an opportunity.

And opportunity meets preparedness, meets luck.

It's a lot going in there that's out of your control.

The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now.

Oh, yeah, Cats and Kittens.

Welcome back to the Commercial Break.

I'm Brian Green, and I'm by myself on this DCB Infomercial Tuesday with Sal Volcano.

I'm super excited about this

12-time impractical joker, Sal Volcano, here with us today.

I'll tell you all about everything he's got coming up, but first a little explanation as to why I might be by myself.

Well, those of you who pay any attention to the commercial break whatsoever will know that over five years of the commercial break, every time,

around this time each year, Chrissy takes off for an extended vacation and what her and her husband refer to as Mempho.

Mempho is a big music festival in, of course, Memphis.

Mempho tickets, memphofest.com for tickets.

I think they're still available.

I believe that MemphoFest is just an excuse for Chrissy and Jeff to

avoid her responsibilities here at the commercial break and party with their friends.

But, you know, far be it for me.

If I, if I could, I would.

That's all I got to say.

Widespread panic for two nights.

An extended and stacked lineup will be playing

and tickets available.

MemphoFest.com.

So go ahead, join her.

If you see her, say hello.

Tell her we miss her here in the studio.

And it's likely I won't even hear from her until she gets back.

But that is not relevant today.

Here is what is relevant today.

Sal Volcano could not, we've been trying to get this together with Sal for a long time, so I could not pass up the opportunity to interview him.

I will miss Chrissy dearly, but we will get through this together.

Sal

is not only an impractical joker, that's probably where most people know him from, but

he is making noise out there because after many years of being a stand-up comedian, he is finally seeing his come-uppits.

He's playing in the Chicago theater.

He's playing, I think it's the Beacon Theater in New York.

Let me check that out.

He's here in Atlanta at the Symphony Hall and he's many other places.

You can go to salvolcano.com.

Yep, he's playing the Symphony Hall.

And then where is he in New York?

Let's see.

He's at the Beacon Theater.

Oh my gosh.

Unbelievable.

These comedians, these like

really good stand-up comedians are selling out these incredibly large houses and playing to huge crowds.

And I love it.

I love it for the art of comedy.

I love it for us because we need him now more than ever.

We desperately need comedy in our lives.

So Sal will be at the Beacon Theater.

That is.

on December 27th.

Go treat yourself after the holidays if you're up there.

Go see Sal.

I'll put links in the show notes to the tickets.

A couple of weeks later, he's playing here in Atlanta, but then he's got many other dates on the books, all available at his website.

He's also got his,

you can go check out his YouTube special, Terrified.

You can watch it ad-free also if you'd really like to support him.

And

then Impractical Jokers is now on season number 12.

I think it's like a split season.

I believe they did one part of the season earlier this year.

I think that's already out and wrapped.

And then now they've got the second half of the season coming out.

Will season 13 appear?

Will TBS pick them up for another season?

All these questions and more to be answered when I get him here.

I will tell you, though, that after nine seasons at MTV, Catfish, the television show, which I got obsessed with for like six months, I watched all the reruns for six months.

Here's how it happened.

I turned on MTV one day just to have on here in the background in the studio and catfish was playing now i'm familiar with the show i know exactly how it goes some asshole out there is catfishing some other person and niam and max the two hosts of the show at least originally the two hosts of the show helped them get to the bottom of who exactly is catfishing them usually the story goes like this i met him in a in a discord server And then now we've been dating for 12 years.

He sent me one picture.

His iPhone never seems to work, so we've never FaceTimed.

And I loaned him $16,000, but he promised he'd come meet me and he hasn't shown up yet.

That's usually how the story goes.

It's almost like carbon copy, cut and paste on every single episode.

But it's always fascinating to see how they get to the bottom of who this is.

And then when the eventual confrontation happens between the two people, I would say that 90% of the time it is not the person.

Like, you know, it's the profile picture was a catfish.

Their backstory was a catfish.

Everything about them was a lie.

But then there's the 10% of time when it does happen, so happen that the iPhone camera was broken and they really needed the money and they just couldn't afford the plane ticket to meet their loved one in person.

But after nine seasons, that has now been canceled.

And here's why it's interesting to me.

Because as I mentioned, when I turned on MTV one day and I saw the episode of Catfish, I then saw another episode of Catfish and then another episode of Catfish and then a fourth episode of Catfish.

They were playing back back-to-back to back to back episodes of Catfish every weekday for six months that I was watching it.

And so I kind of got obsessed.

It would be here on the studio, and Chrissy would come in.

I'd be watching another episode of Catfish, and we'd get all involved in who, or we'd take bets on whether or not it was an actual catfish.

And

no more.

I've been over it for a while, but I just read it in whatever, Entertainment Weekly or Entertainment Weekly.

I don't think Entertainment Weekly has been a magazine for six years.

Anyway, salvolcano.com.

I will put links in the show notes.

When he gets here, I want everyone to remain calm.

Don't freak yourself out.

I do like Sal.

I do like Impractical Jokers.

I am very excited about this one.

We'll be missing our co-host here dearly, but I think we'll figure it out.

All right.

So since Chrissy's not here to ask the question, I ask you, the listener, what do you say we take a break?

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What is he doing next?

Will Catfish, in fact, I mean, will practical jokers, in fact, have a 13th season?

We'll ask all the questions.

We'll get to the bottom of it right after this break.

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Okay, we'll be back.

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And Sal is here with us now.

Sal, there's so much going on in the world.

You join us at a very fraught time here in the country and around the universe.

I don't know what to say.

Let's get right into it.

I'm just going to ask you the hard questions first.

Corey Feldman, no longer a part of Dancing with the Stars.

How are you holding up?

I was hoping, I knew it'd be quick.

What week did he go?

Two.

Well, we were hoping to get past one.

It's funny,

I don't know if you know that I

actually

like Corey Feldman's like his, you know, I've gone to see him in concert.

And he's like, you know, I've been following his career, you know, like for a long time.

Yeah.

So God bless him.

God love him.

And, you know, I was hoping that we would all like kind of like get those votes in for him and get him further along the line.

But honestly, week two, I almost did Dancing with the Stars, or

I think they might have asked me, or I was going to, I knew someone there that said, like, hey, you can be honest if you, you know, if you want, let me know.

And I was like,

yeah,

I just can't.

I don't know, man.

It's too much.

I think it would bring you into a whole new audience, but I imagine, and I don't know, I mean, you know, you know your career better than I do, but I would imagine your reach is pretty big already.

And I'm not sure that dancing with the stars, I can see why you might say, eh, maybe not.

But

the challenge seems good, but I just, I just, I tip tip my hat to anyone i mean good for him i don't know if i'd be on it if i'd make it to week two i don't know i have i have rhythm but i i i i i also lack stamina yeah me too that's my thing i can dance for the first five seconds at a wedding but then once i start sweating i just don't know my body breaks down i'm not that kind of guy like i jump around i jump around for the first chorus and that's okay

my wife is venezuelan so when we go to a party there's i always have to keep my eyes like on a i keep my head on a swivel because there's all these beautiful men that know how to shake their asses.

And I'm Irish, I don't have an ass, so I can't shake it, let alone have it.

But I was hoping that Corey, like, do you remember that one year at American Idol when we all voted for that guy, Sanjay, you know, vote for Sanjay because he's like the worst singer ever, but Howard Stern got everybody all riled up and you know, that everyone was voting for Sanjay?

I was hoping we'd get, as a country, we would come together,

yeah, oh, divisiveness

brought us all together, goddammit.

Do you, I follow Corey's career because I

it defies gravity.

It really does.

It defies gravity.

It's like, how in the world has Corey continued to captivate audiences?

And it's no knock on the guy.

Like any way you can do it.

And I always wonder to myself, probably like me, I'm hoping like you do.

Do

does Corey, is Corey in on the joke?

Or are we just, is he like laughing at us?

Are we laughing at him?

Are we all laughing together?

I'm not really sure.

I I don't know.

I think that at some point he became self-aware because of

online.

I think that he understands that there is probably a contingent of people

that maybe watch to hate, to hate on.

To poke.

Yeah, yeah.

So for me, it's like, all right, okay, growing up, it's like you got, I don't need to name all the movies, but you got so many great movies, right?

Yeah.

You got Lost Boys and Goonies and

License to Drive, I believe.

And Smarby Me.

Yes.

And Stand By Me.

Just so many great ones.

And then you got, you know, entering that Michael Jackson phase.

And then it was, you know, he's always been like,

when he first started coming out with his music and the angels and everything, I watched it and I was like, this is, this is something.

Yes.

It's, it's, it's,

it's entertaining and inspiring.

I agree with you.

When he

he did that morning show shit, all intents and purposes, he's a very, if we're just being honest, and not a knock on the guy, God bless, but he's a very average, you know, like, you know, but the confidence is a 10 out of 10.

10 out of 10.

And the motivation is a 10 out of 10.

And I mean, if you got those two things, I'm on board.

So I've gone to see him live.

He's amazing.

One of his managers is L.

You remember DeBarge?

I don't know how old you are.

Yeah, no, we're the same age.

Yeah, I do.

I remember.

Yeah.

Well, his son is one of his agents or managers or something.

And I'm at the show and I went with some friends.

And, you know, you go to be like, I want to see the spectacle in person.

And it lives up to the hype.

And then he was like, he came up to me, I guess.

I don't want to not remember his name correctly, but DeBarge's son's

something Debarge.

I'm so sorry.

Debarge Jr.

Yeah, and he's

love to meet you.

I was like, unreal.

So

I went upstairs after the show ended.

I was with like 10 people.

They all had to wait downstairs for me because, you know, I went up and I waited up there for like, I would say, a good 20 to 30 minutes, just sitting in a seat.

I thought I was going to go up to say hi, shake his hand, or whatever.

And

so,

so finally, he comes out and it was his birthday.

So

they gave him a cake and we sang happy birthday and he blew out the candles and then

he was introduced to me and no clue who I was at all.

And the way it was framed was Corey would love to meet you.

Yeah, Corey wants to meet you.

Big fan.

Come on.

I just said, hey, I'm a big fan.

He's like, oh, thanks.

No idea of anything.

I took a photo with him and I got out of there.

Oh, my God.

That is one of the better stories told.

Listen, I have become a, he slowly turned me.

I watched like everybody else did.

There was like a guy who put a video together on YouTube and it was like, Corey, like Corey always has some issue with a microphone, with the audio at every single show.

And he put this long cut together of, oh, you know, the time he cracked his tooth.

And, you know, this guy, he starts restarting the songs all the time.

I love it.

I love it.

It was performance art.

I was like, this guy must be trolling everybody.

And now now we're all captivated.

And he's with Fred Durst.

He had a fucking picture with Eddie Vetter the other day.

Eddie fucking Vetter from Pearl Jam.

I couldn't believe it.

Good for him.

That is crazy.

But let me ask you something because I'm curious.

So I've, you know, been a fan of Jokers for a long time.

Obviously, millions of people have watched this show.

It's very, it's extraordinarily popular.

When you guys started, can you walk down the street?

This is my question.

Can you walk down the street without being noticed?

at all, probably.

If I go out in public, I'm gonna be noticed, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is that a bothersome part of fame for you, or is that like this is this comes with the territory, and I'm just grateful?

Well, it depends on the circumstance and the day, you know, it's a little of both.

Obviously, it's not you know the most ideal thing in the world to not be able to go anywhere and not be recognized or approached, or people want something from you.

Yeah, um, it is it is part of it, um, and I, you know, you learn to embrace it.

It's really lovely.

Most of the people I meet are very complimentary, and I understand that, like, they're very enthusiastic and everything.

And then, you know, I've had moments in my life pre and post being in the public where I saw someone I really liked and I questioned whether I should approach them.

And then, if when I either wouldn't, or if I did, some of them were really nice, and some of them, you know, I probably got them at the wrong time.

And I never really want to leave a sour taste in anyone's mouth.

I always think, too, of like my parents approaching someone.

And like, I try to, like depending on the age any kid is fine but like depending on the adult I'm always like well if my parents approach someone how would I want that celebrate like celebrity or polygon to act toward them so I try to keep that yeah but you know then there's people that are just like you give them a picture or even a video or even a minute or two five minutes of your time and then they want more or like they're maybe at a function where they're intoxicated or or they just don't really understand just natural

etiquette to be polite or to hold on a second to this there's there's those people that kind of like they're the minority and those people can kind of be a bummer sometimes but

for the most part it is what it is I'm fine especially if I'm out on my own if I'm with my family I like kind of like to keep people at a distance a little bit sure but no but of course I mean that's if anything I'm just very grateful for everyone so but you know I can imagine like I don't I don't know though I've been noticed you know this show does it's not doesn't have we're not on TV but there's people who have noticed me and it's been very nice like it's been nothing scary or, you know, it's like, hey, are you that guy from that podcast kind of thing?

But I don't have the kind of notoriety that you do.

My curiosity also runs into whether or not that affects the show that you film.

Like, does it ever get to a point where it's like,

we just can't do this because we can't find any stooges that don't know who we are?

Like,

in the practical sense of filming impractical jokers.

For sure.

Yeah.

Well,

that's why we film in New York City and the surrounding area.

It's densely populated.

On the street,

you're going to have to account for it in our scheduling, you know, like you're going to account for it.

And when we usually do like, like things like focus groups or things in office spaces or stuff like speeches or things like that, we have a whole like vetting process that we created.

Interesting.

A way ahead of time.

Like people that are coming, like say, just say for focus group, for example, we'll send them questionnaires that's like a hundred questions.

And in there is like, what stations do you watch on television?

What are some of your favorite shows?

If they watch True TV at all, and even though name our show or TBS, we don't call them in.

And once we get those people, like what types of shows, all that kind of stuff.

Then once we get them in-house,

we have questions again, like a second round of questions.

And then before they enter a room, they'll walk down a hallway to get to that room.

We take them one by one, and one of us will be standing in that hallway.

And then if they have a reaction to us in that moment, they never make it to the

thing.

This is a whole fucking thing.

It's a whole thing because we have to, it doesn't work if it's you know we go through painstaking efforts it it is so funny like you know online over the years you see like you know every once in a while like people being like oh the whole show is staged the whole show is fake which i find so funny because it's it would be imminently harder to stage the whole thing like it's like

i think that would be an impossible task yeah at this point we're in season 12 we've been filming for

14 years

and thousands of people have been on the show and spoken about their experience.

I just always find it funny when people just want to be like, I don't even understand how that would work, but also it's not funny if they know.

Of course it's not.

And if they're in on the joke, then

I think people first of all

the point here.

I mean, the whole

point of the show.

So it's like, and also it's like, you can't, can't you tell that these are real people?

It's like, so I always try to find that amusing, but we have to go through a lot of effort to make sure because one person can ruin a whole bit.

Like if I'm sitting in a room with 20 people and someone goes, oh, you're from the, that wipes 20 people out and sets us back hours, you know, hours and hours.

And has that happen?

Have you had an occasion where someone goes, I think I recognize you from someone?

Yeah, yeah, it happens.

We have like our equivalent of secret service agents standing around, and they neutralize those people right away.

I have to imagine there's some kind of security for some of this stuff.

It's um, well, we got one security guy, and that's that's because we needed it for insurance, but he's the best, but I think if shit goes down, we're probably

not really trying to get anybody angry.

It's more like cheating.

And my favorite space to be in is bewilderment and confusion.

When I'm dealing with someone and they're like not sure what the hell's going on,

when I evoke that, that's when I always find it plays the funniest.

I think it's a very interesting set of skills that you have.

You guys are like the Liam Neesons, right?

And here's what I mean.

Like improv comedy is a whole thing in and of itself.

And that's where you're, I'm sure, that that's where you're born, right?

Is improv comedy.

But taking that out into the world and playing with an energy like that in the circumstances that become so absurd that

it's like the other person almost has to believe.

It's almost like it's too weird.

It must be true.

And then you keep playing with it and keep playing with it until it breaks.

And that is a really interesting skill set that you're doing doing with a fucking complete stranger.

Like, not someone, not another improv guy that you've been doing this with for three years on stage.

And I think it's very unique.

I believe that's why it captures the attention of so many fans is because, you know, we realize at some, like somewhere in our heads, just how really crazy it must be to be standing there in a grocery store, you know, trying to convince someone that fruit is a UFO or something like that.

Like, it's just really weird.

Let me write that down.

It's just really weird.

Fruit is a UFO.

I just got this from outer space.

But

I have noticed about you, Sal, that for the last two years, you know, you're on, you're showing up on Theo.

You have really made in all these different podcasts and you're out there doing your own shows.

Is this, are you scratching an itch that you've always had?

And does that, is that really exciting?

I mean, obviously, you've been very successful at it.

I'm sure a lot of that is piggybacking off of the notoriety that you have on Jokers.

But it seems like you've really kind of broken out and had your own thing now.

Oh, yeah.

So,

you know, when I started out in 99,

I was doing improv and sketch comedy

and a little bit of stand-up.

And then, you know, we got some writing gigs for television and whatnot.

And

anyway, we got this show, you know, 12 years later.

It was a lot of failure and stuff.

But I was always in entertainment, always a writer, always a performer.

And then in about 2012, once we were on the air for about a year, I was like, all right, well, I mean, I only always wanted to be a stand-up.

So I'm going to just really get back into that with every spare second I have right now.

And I started touring with the guys and I started touring, you know, and by myself.

And,

you know, stand-up is a grind.

So, like, luckily I live in New York, but like, when I first was like, really, like, the first like,

maybe like

five, six, seven years, I was probably, you know, performing three to four nights a week, probably three to six times a night.

Um, and that is that is that is it.

That's what it is.

Comedy is a journeyman's gig.

It really is.

An hour to tour with and stuff.

And, and, you know, then I did, you know, then I started going on the road and doing the clubs and everything.

And then after a handful of years and stuff, then I finally started touring and moving up to theaters and stuff.

And, and then I finally, you know, put out a special last year called Terrified.

And I'm, and now I have a touring on a whole new hour and getting ready to film my second special.

So a lot of people, because I didn't have a special out, because I just didn't have the time to do it.

And I also want to wait till it was ready.

A lot of people in this day and age are really churning stuff out, trying to keep up with each other, which is tough because

a special should be special and

it should be material that really has been tried and true, worked on and evolved and things like that.

And so you never want to rush a special.

But

we're in an age now.

It's like a revolution for comedy where people are able to

shoot their own special for a moderate price, get it up online for free for everyone to see.

And, you know, you don't need these gatekeepers anymore and stuff.

And with that, it has brought like basically like, it's like the gold rush of, you know, back in the day.

It really is.

Yeah, you're right about that.

You know, you kind of strike a balance between keeping up with everyone, but also doing it the right way.

And then a lot of people that know me from Jokers, they didn't even know I was a comedian.

They just think like I'm trying something new for the first time when they saw that.

But But what they don't know is like I started comedy 20 years ago and I've been doing it, you know, like on the regular at least for the last, you know, almost 10 years.

So, yeah, man.

And then there's people that just know me from podcasting because I have a bunch of podcasts and stuff.

So it's really a fun thing.

I can't, I couldn't be more lucky because I get to check all these different boxes, comedy, creative outlet boxes.

You know, stand-up is way different than the show.

And I still do some sketch and the podcasting and stuff.

So all those comics, too, have been my friends for the longest time ever and it's really cool to see all of those guys

exploding in the last handful of years as well it's like it's just a crazy thing you know like they used to tell me that when i got some luck and i got on tv and i got a little little popular a little bit behind me that like oh my god and like now it's like i get to i'm also watching them now like

all my like it's just crazy if you keep at it and keep yourself in certain circles and keep diligent i see it paying off for dozens dozens of my friends now.

So it's like, it's just a really cool, cool thing.

We almost exclusively interview stand-up comedians with the occasional musician or actor or actress that comes in the store.

And the reason why is, first of all, I'm, you know, I am kind of in awe.

I love the art of comedy.

I love,

I'm not, I'm not good at stand-up comedy myself.

That's why I have a microphone here.

It takes a lot less courage to be on a microphone.

But I love,

I think there's kind of a nobility to comedy almost.

And I think it's needed now more than it ever is.

And you're right, there is like a gold rush going on with comedians.

And there's, you seem to kind of be plugged into this circle of comedians who are all seeing their moment right now.

And that's because those comedians have no gatekeepers.

They can turn on.

They can go right to their community.

They can go right to their niche.

And the truth is, no matter what kind of comedy you do, what kind of jokes you're telling, if you're at all, even a little bit good, you'll find people.

They'll come in the door.

And that gives you an opportunity to do that.

There's a lot of like influencer types or just online, you know, shooting jokes and stuff like that.

But that stand-up comedy is a different story altogether.

And you point out, you've been doing this for a long time.

All overnight story, any overnight story does not happen overnight.

The success does not happen overnight.

It takes a long time to do this.

You guys were like,

How did the guys get together for Impractical Jokers?

So I met these guys.

We're all the same age, and I met them when I was 13.

We all went to high school together.

So I met them as freshmen in high school.

It's crazy.

And we were, you know, I had a small school here in Staten Island where I went to school, an all-boys Catholic high school.

It was only like maybe 300 people per class.

So the whole school, you know, wasn't that big.

And we all knew each other.

And then we did improv in high school.

And then with a lot of people.

And then after college, we all went separate ways and stuff.

We weren't like a clique in high school or anything but we were friendly and kept in touch and when we came back from college respectively we're all doing still doing improv and acting and stand-up and stuff and so we're like let's try and do it together and that's when we started in 99 as the tenderloins uh comedy true

I think that's the best name, the Tenderloins.

And then it's 2010, 11 years later, we got our first break, really.

Okay, so true or false, you guys went to Catholic high school just like I did.

Did you go to Catholic grade school too?

Yeah, yeah.

I went to Catholic school.

and I went to St.

John's University for college.

Dude, you're a glutton for college.

I'm basically an honorary priest, I think.

Yes, you are.

Did you ever seriously consider the priest?

Did you ever get recruited by anybody to try and go to the priesthood?

No, I was never a multi boy.

I'm not particularly religious, to tell you the truth.

No, I'm not at all.

You know, my parents are kind of, but like, you know, I just, you know, I just,

no, I'm not even close.

You know, I was born and raised in Chicago.

And so when you were part of the diocese, if you were like a paying member of the diocese, right, paying member of the diocese, if you put your money in the basket every week, then tuition was afforded to you for your children, or a certain portion of it.

And then we went to came to Atlanta, same thing.

So I've always said that I'm a reformed Catholic.

I don't go anymore.

Exactly.

All of a sudden, when the kids got out of school, my parents stopped going too.

So I think they went for the free education.

Yeah.

Did you have nuns?

Did you guys have nuns?

Yeah, we had nuns, priests.

We had had them all.

No, shit.

Yeah, we had a couple of nuns, but it wasn't.

The teachers weren't only nuns, but I had a second grade teacher.

Mrs.

Rachel was a nun.

And then, you know, we had, we had to go to mass when we were in school.

And, you know, we had religion class and all that stuff.

But it wasn't like only nuns or anything.

But

no weird.

Like the high school that I, or the grade school that I went to.

So we had regular, you know, layman teachers.

Yeah.

But then we had nuns that were working in the school in subcapacity, right?

One was a nurse, and then one was the librarian, and then occasionally there would be a teacher or two that were nuns.

But the convent was attached to the school.

There was like a door, like at the end of the hallway, there was a door to the convent.

Yeah.

And so it was just like this weird, mysterious place that we always were trying to get us into the convent.

We wanted to know what went on back there, but the nuns, they were in their 80s.

You know, I mean, they were yeah, same.

We have ours was like a block away in grammar school, but in high school, same thing.

It was the brothers' residence was just down a hall past these doors where they all like hung out and lived and stuff.

Yeah.

Our nuns were always smoking cigarettes and I'm pretty sure drinking.

I think some of the first smell of booze that I remember was

one of the nuns.

Oh, yeah.

They're hitting that blood of Jesus Christ hard.

So,

are you still enjoying the

kind of the road?

I mean, I ask this of almost every comedian, and there's sometimes I get a surprising, I love it.

I love being out there, I love doing it.

But most comedians say, Hey, listen, it's part of the gig, right?

It's part of the gig, and I do it for the hour or two that I get on stage.

That's why I'm there.

How do you feel about the road?

How do you feel about the journeyman part of comedy?

I mean, I know you don't, you're not out there, you know, six nights a week, but how are you feeling about it?

Yeah, you know, I do about

between

65 and 80 cities a year.

That's still crazy, yeah.

And

I, same thing.

It's that's, I mean, there's nothing better than being on stage.

Uh, and every second before that, it sucks.

I, I don't, I don't like to fly.

Uh, so I don't like shit.

And I don't like being away from, you know, my family, you know, so it's tough to leave them, but, you know,

this is what success in this field is and

up for it and stuff.

But,

you know, I think about it because if, you know, there is really no retiring.

Like, there's no, you just kind of stop or people just stop coming to see you.

So,

but the reason we do this is because we love it.

Well, I should say the reason I do it is because I love it.

So I always wonder what that balance is going to be.

Because

I guess at some point, you know, you just stay local.

I could perform in the city every night if I wanted to, you know, so,

but right now, just, you know, making the most of the opportunity and trying to grow my audience, you know, get to that next level.

The guys and I have reached an arena level, which is unreal.

And I'm in pretty decent-sized theaters now, but the goal, of course, is to always like, my main goal is to just become a better comic all the time and be prouder of the stuff that I put out, you know,

even more than the last stuff.

But with that, it'd be really nice, you know, to

grow the audience.

To play the Mercedes-Benz Stadium, yeah, like fly in like Nate Bargazzi.

Yeah, he's a good buddy of mine, actually.

Yeah,

he is so good.

Like,

and my wife turned me on to him.

And I, because I was like, oh, Nate, and then his new special, like, it was kind of slow and plodding at first.

And I was like,

but by the end of the special, I was in fucking stitches.

I was like, this guy is a tactician.

He is a master at his craft.

He knows how to use his body and his voice, even in a room as big

as a football stadium, right?

Which is a.

We all saw that Nate from a long time ago.

Wow.

Nate Nate was every, there's no comedian.

All the comics, you know,

like we tip, everyone tips their captain Nate because he's just, he's just so great.

He's just, like you said, he's a technician and he's, he's just, he's, has his, such a distinct voice that he's mastered and stuff.

And he's just funny.

He just, when he talks, he's funny, you know, like it just.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it's,

he's someone I've watched.

He's the biggest comic in the world right now.

Two of my buttons, Shane, between Shane Gillis and Nate,

they're like two of the hottest comics in the entire world.

It's just wild.

It is wild.

And both of them have, I've toured, like I both, I've done shows with both of them.

Both of them, I believe, because we all do that with each other.

We'll jump on each other's shows, feature for each other.

And it's like,

yeah, I've performed with them and then watch them just skyrocket.

Yeah, but you're no slouch yourself.

You're playing the Beacon Theater.

You're at the Chicago Theater, right?

And you're here at the Symphony Hall, which is like when you can sell out the Fox, but maybe you can't sell out the, you know, whatever it is, State Farm Arena, right?

So that's still, that's not a small place to play.

And so it must feel, there must be some.

I know you want to play the stadiums, right?

I hear you.

You always got to be grinding.

Yeah, no, look, I just mean that as a matter of a measurement.

If we're talking ideal space for comedy, it's actually not arenas.

No, I know.

It's like

the best place to see a show at all, but arenas is the best for my mortgage.

It's best for

your lady.

It's best for my lady.

It's only the best for my lady.

The comedy is going to be shit, but my woman is happy.

That's all I care about.

No, but yeah,

anything that has the word symphony in it, I'm like, let me in there.

I'll class this place down right away.

But yeah, so Atlanta, Symphony Hall, and yeah, and like you mentioned, Chicago Theater, November 14th, Beacon Theater, New York City, December 27th.

Those things are like,

I don't want to get ahead of of myself.

Like, I still am like dumbfounded.

I get to play these types of spaces.

Like, I, I, you know, I really, I'm telling you, I, I, it never gets old.

It's, it's never lost on me.

I, I mean, I don't know who it would be lost on, but

it's, it's, I take inventory every day, you know, very, very, very happy.

Is it like, could you have ever imagined, I mean, no one can ever imagine, right?

But is there this like dream in your head sometime when you're, you know, 14, 15, dicking around with the guys?

Like, is there this dream that maybe this this could be something?

Maybe we could do it.

Like, I remember playing air guitar in my room to Soundgarden, you know, to 50,000 pretend people, but that so very rarely happens to anyone.

Everyone does it.

Everyone dreams like that, but it never very rarely becomes a reality.

And that's because a little bit of luck and a lot of talent and some motivation gets you where you need to go.

Was there like, did you guys talk about this when you were young?

Like, were there moments where you're like, what if we could do this?

You know, I always always wanted to be a comedian.

I never thought it was anything that was attainable or feasible because, you know, you don't really understand what it takes or what goes into it.

And so when I was younger, I went to college and then got a regular job.

And, you know, I started doing, like I said, sketch and improv and stuff like that and a little bit of stand-up, but it was always because I love it.

It was fun.

And, you know,

you have no clue ever.

the expectation it's just so hard that you try not to have expectations um

and

i know you say this uh and and i know i'm i'm gonna reinforce what you said but it's for me it's it's really true like i cannot believe

in the bottom of my heart i cannot believe what i do i can't believe it i can't believe i i don't know how i i

i truly to this day think all the time that i all i ever wanted to be was a comic and and and that's what I am, and that's what supports my life.

I swear to you, I think about it all the time.

I can't believe I got a show on television that stayed on.

I can't believe I do stand up as a professional comedian.

I just can't believe it.

But,

you know, it just was about exactly, it was a lot of luck, a lot of hard work, a lot of rejection.

And then at some point, you create an opportunity.

An opportunity meets preparedness, meets luck.

It's a lot going in there that's out of your control.

And that's why there's tons of comics that are amazing comics that people don't know.

It's just not played.

It's a game of chance just as much as anything.

But you got it grind and be ready for when it hits you, and then hopefully you can make the most opportunity.

That happened to me, and I'm more lucky than anything.

You know what I mean?

But I think there is luck.

You know, there is luck in success always.

And there is a lot of failure in success, too.

And so, what people see,

what they don't see, you know, what they see on stage or on Instagram or, you know, on the television show or you walking down the street or driving a nice car or whatever, what they don't see is the millions of paper cuts that you got along the way.

And that really then defines how you move forward.

I think part of the reason why,

if I may, why you are well liked and why people kind of gravitate towards you is because there feels, to me at least, to be a certain authenticity to you and to your comedy and to the way you move.

Even on the television show, it's, you know, you guys are being goofballs, obviously, and you're having fun with it.

But there's some authenticity.

There's some, there's, we like, we know the real Sal.

We're friends with him.

He could be our buddy, and he seems real to us.

And I think that also is part of success is your humility, your recognition that it takes a lot of success, but a lot of luck also.

And then also

what you just said, which is, I take stock every day.

Like, I'm aware of how lucky I am.

You got the dream.

I mean, you did it.

You did it.

You You got the dream.

But you're also working fucking hard.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a lot of sacrifice

to try to operate as a professional in any field, I think.

It's like,

you know, you have to

dedicate everything to it.

So I do that.

I've done that.

But the good thing is I love it.

So it's like, you know, but thank you for the kind words because that's very sweet of you.

And I appreciate it.

I love you, Sal.

I love you.

If I saw you on the street, I would have inappropriate boundaries.

14 years on doing the television show, this should not go without saying either.

This is also a compliment to what's going on.

In the day and age of one in two seasons of television shows, even when they're fucking fantastic, you guys have continued to be on the air.

How long do you see this going on?

Are you guys going to do this as long as you possibly can?

Or is there like, and I mean, obviously, you're not going to break any news here, but is there some point where you go, hey, like, you know, I don't know.

Maybe, maybe season 36 is not in the cards yet.

Yeah, you know, we just wrapped three weeks ago, we just wrapped season 12.

Okay.

The show's airing on TBS now

for the last few seasons, which is a much bigger network than True.

And as such, it's found a new audience and it's getting better ratings than it ever has.

It's crazy.

They still play the reruns on True, but...

you know we're not signed after this season um they're a they aired the first half of it and they saved the last 10 episodes they'll they'll put them on like january we're waiting to see um

what we'll have to negotiate you know, for another season or more and see what happens.

We always said that if we're having fun and

we all want to be there still, that we'll still do it if they'll have us.

And to now, we are.

We are having a lot of fun.

We go to great lengths to make the show different each season and to push it and to evolve it and to do different things for our sake, for the viewers' sake.

And, you know, we have a team of people that we've been with for a very long time now that's like family that we employ, that we love.

And I mean, that's another thing I'm so blessed.

I go to work.

I love, love the people I work with.

It's more than the guys.

It's this whole, it's like 60s people, you know what I mean?

And

a lot of them have been with you since the beginning.

A lot of you have been with you.

A lot of them have been with us in the dirty.

The director of the show right now, named Casey Jost, he started as a PA.

He started as a production assistant.

Then he moved to a writer.

Then he moved to a senior writer, head writer,

and then to the director of the show.

So

a lot of the guys from the show are my friends from home that have no experience whatsoever in television or comedy that I knew were capable,

smart, and could do it.

Some of my friends on the show, the camera guys, DP and stuff, they were filmmakers that I met in my neighborhood.

that did stuff with us for free before we ever got anywhere.

And now they've been with me for 14 years, you know, like, so,

you know, so that's a dream.

And, you know, like, it is tough because the show is tough.

It takes a lot to make.

And we have a hand in everything from the writing of it to the producing of it to the editing of it.

And so

it used to take us almost 10 months to do 26 episodes and five specials a season.

And that's really a lot because then we get about two months down only and then we go right back.

And we did that for the first like nine season.

So the first like since till COVID.

That's crazy.

That's an insane schedule.

Since then, we backed it up a bit.

We only do 18 episodes now, and

I will get now six months down

contractually.

Because I just want to do some other creative things, and I also have family and stuff.

So, yeah, we'll see.

We'll see.

I hear you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, also,

there probably is some, even though people want it probably to go on forever, there's got to be some understanding that, hey, guys, there's only so much running room we can get out of this, right?

We have to take it to where it's going to go.

But I guarantee you, should TBS and you not come to some contractual agreement, there's some streamer out there who would probably find a way.

There's an audience, there's a streamer out there that would do it.

Listen, here's to hoping many more seasons of Impractical Jokes, but here's to understanding that at some point, right, you might have to go scratch

another itch.

And some of the guys, you know, some of the guys have.

So we'll, we'll see what happens.

But for you personally, tell me about what's next up.

You and I were discussing before.

You have a new talk show coming on to YouTube.

Tell us about this.

Yeah, exciting.

Yes.

And

in the day of the podcast,

I've had two podcasts that are on hiatus right now called Hey Babe and Taste Buds.

I did those for like three years.

Just took a break because there's like a lot going on.

But

there's a show called Minoosh that is my own.

And it's basically a very tongue-in-cheek, like absurd talk show.

It sounds right up my alley, dude.

So tell us a little bit of it, like break it down for us.

Give us an example of Moon.

Yeah, Manoosh being just short from Minoosha.

And the idea is like really big guests, really small talk.

And it's kind of like not a typical interview show.

Like the questions are absolutely mundane in the most ridiculous way.

But then we also do like act outs and games and it goes in and out from real conversation to sketch comedy.

But we don't pull that out.

So it is this like really weird ride of like.

just like kind of mix of different types of you know comedic styles and absurdist talk show in the flavor of like Between Two Ferns, Eric Andre, that kind of stuff.

Yeah, it's not as crazy as Eric Andre and not as

outwardly.

I would call it mean, but it's mean-spirited as ferns.

But yes, it's in the vein of that.

It's a lot of like a variety show almost kind of a fun.

And yeah, it's the first one I'm doing.

I've had three podcasts that were all great, but always with a partner.

This is the first one I just figured I wanted to give a little bit of of my own specific sensibility and have a little bit of a hook to it and maybe do something that, you know,

also that was manageable.

The way I'm shooting this is, I'm shooting it in 10 episodes at a clip, and then I'm releasing those 10 episodes as a season.

So it's not going to be weekly, it's going to be as a season.

So the end of the fall will be the first season.

And I got some great guests coming on and stuff.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

My goal is like you're going to see these guests, hopefully, in a, in a, in a way, in a conversation or a way that you really haven't seen them before tell me can you can you name any of the guests or do you want to wait um i could not i could name i mean i you know some people i'm still waiting for like they're gonna come on but like they haven't been on okay got it got it yeah okay so i'm still like you know checking all those boxes but um but no but we have some crazy crazy

you know i have a rule here and that is it doesn't matter if they're booked it doesn't matter if it happens in an hour it doesn't matter if they're supposed to be on in 15 minutes we don't say it until it's in the can because you know, like I know, shit always happens.

And the one time you get all excited about someone coming on your show, they had to reschedule till next year, right?

So

we have very unique, from very huge musicians to A-list actors to very niche artists and

comics and just a real

like long time great character actors.

And we have a lot of different kinds of people, famous hip-hop artists.

So it's going to be a lot of fun.

I'm really excited for this.

This is great.

Are you filming this in a studio somewhere in New York?

Like, do you guys film it in a studio in New York?

Yeah, I came around the studio in Brooklyn, actually.

Oh, that's fantastic.

And do you intend to go back to Taste Buds or Chris?

Or you guys, you guys.

Yeah,

we went on an indefinite hiatus, but like we love doing the show.

And we definitely, like, you know, it's just that we all We all had a lot of good fortune and had a lot of work on our plates.

And I don't like to do anything half-assed, you know, and I don't like to, you know, like I like to put in the effort that these projects require.

Yeah.

And I think they do too.

And when we felt like we were kind of like running on empty a little bit and just kind of meeting and getting it done, that's not why I'm doing it.

It's not the space I want to be in.

And so we all thought, all right, let's take a break.

Let's give focus to these other things that have been fortunately come our way.

And then we'll definitely come back when we can.

Yeah, we'll circle back on it.

Listen, I know this because we do four days a week.

And I love my best friend, right?

But at some point, sometimes you start to feel a little, you know, a little strung out, right?

And it's natural.

You know, the key to a successful podcast is that when you say you're going to be there, show up.

And fresh content, you know, drives the, it just drives the whole thing.

If you're just doing a bunch of reruns, it's not going to happen.

But the other thing is, is if you're not feeling it, then it's not going to be good.

And it's not going to matter whether it's fresh content because the audience is going to go, they're just phoning this in.

I'm not going to do this.

Didn't want to do that.

I'd rather do like a few things as good as I possibly can than a lot of things just like, okay, you know, obviously.

So I think you're having a lot of success, my friend.

Sal Volcano is here at the commercial break with us today, but he is going to be releasing Manouche.

When is the, do you have a release date?

I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.

No, but I think it's going to be late fall.

Late fall.

Okay.

Yeah, and it'll be on YouTube and then everywhere you get like podcasts.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I'll put some links in the show notes for everybody.

He is also on tour, always adding dates.

I'm going to put some links in those show notes.

He's got some big dates coming up, one in Chicago, one in New York.

If you're here in Atlanta, he'll be here in January.

Of course, there's the new special also.

I mean, the new-ish special.

Has that done very well?

Yeah, so I released it first on YouTube, and we got about two and a half million views

that first year.

And then HBO optioned it, and so now it's streaming on HBO Max.

And yeah, it did really well.

I was really proud of it.

I really put a lot of work into that thing.

Yeah, it's very funny.

I watched it.

Are you really afraid of flying?

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's one of those.

I don't know how you're a comic that does all that.

The three things I don't really like is I don't like flying.

I don't like taking photos.

And I don't like shaking hands.

It's the three most things I have to do ever since I began.

I'm with you on the photos, and I'm with you on the shaking hands, dude.

I'll just give a pound.

I'll even give a hug.

I just don't like the handshake.

No, I don't either.

I think, I don't even know where that started or who started it, but it feels like just a recipe for more pandemics.

I'm not a total germaphobe.

No, no, I'm not.

I'm not.

You know what it is about this?

If I shake even five, but sometimes it's like 20, 30 hands in a day.

Like,

I'm just getting sick all the time.

So it's like, it's less about me being a crazy germaphobe and more about just me being being smart because people don't really understand that I'm not just like not shaking like one person's hand.

I'm trying to not shake 50 hands a day.

That's right.

So if you notice that Sal's got makeup on the backside of his hand, there's all the bruising from the handshake.

Just throwing that there.

All right, we'll let that one sit in the air.

Sal, thank you very much for showing up here today with me.

I hope that you come back.

Maybe we'll come see you when you're here in January.

I'll hook that up.

Please, if you're free, you just let me know.

Let my

I will do that.

No, yeah, they'll get you all set up.

Yeah,

you're the best.

I'll do that, and hopefully, we get to pound each other's knuckles when we see each other.

Come on back and hang out.

Yeah, sure.

Or maybe a hug.

Sal, links in the show notes.

Thank you, Sal, very much for showing up.

Sal volcano, everybody.

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Well,

I do have to say, I quite enjoyed that conversation with Sal.

They say, don't meet your heroes, but sometimes when you do, it ends up being a pleasant surprise.

And that was one of them.

Sal Vocano, 12-time.

Will he be a 13-time Impractical Joker?

I guess we all have to hold our breath and wait to find out.

I think there's a good chance it's coming back.

One more season.

Come on, boys.

I know you got it.

You know what surprised me?

What surprised me is how much energy and effort goes into doing just one, just one of the segments of Impractical Jokers.

It sounds like it takes a crew, a lot of time, and then one Yahoo can just ruin it all.

One person that knows them, one recognition of one of the Impractical Jokers can take it all down.

So I can understand why they have to be so careful, but I had no idea behind the scenes how much work they go through just to get it done.

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But anyway, you heard him.

The back half of the season is coming up in January.

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He's going to be at the Beacon Theater on December 27th here in Atlanta on January 10th, and many places in between.

I'll put links in the show notes so you can

go and buy tickets yourself.

Let's all go support Sal.

Also, check out his terrified special.

I'll put a link in the show notes to that too.

And then, you know, he's been on a bunch of podcasts.

He's had a bunch of podcasts.

He said it on the episode.

He said it here on the interview.

If you go to his website, pretty much everything he's ever done is on that website.

It's like a library of Sal volcanoes.

So just look in the show notes below and hit that link.

Okay?

Okay.

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Go say hi to Chrissy.

See widespread panic for two nights.

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