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Speaker 1 of course, is from the very popular show, What We Do in the Shadows, one of our favorites around here.

Speaker 1 so we're very excited to have him we don't have a ton of actors and actresses here on the show thesbians don't tend to make their way to the commercial break but when we got an opportunity to talk to harvey we said we'll take that because again what we do in the shadows one of our favorite television shows of all time and if you haven't seen the show I'll spare you all the drama.

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Speaker 1 it's a comedic take on the vampire genre uh go ahead and see it it is lovely it is wonderful now a few facts about harvey that you should know that i may or may not ask him about when he comes on

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Speaker 1 he paid he was homeless for a bit of time on his journey to being a noted actor he basically raised his family he helped to he was in one of those family units where everybody chipped in and harvey was a big part of that and when he kicked out on his own to become an actor he was homeless.

Speaker 1 So he lived in a car, I believe one of his friends' cars for a period of time. And he would pay his way through acting school by recycling cans.
Cans.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if that's still a thing. I'm sure it's not.
Now I pay someone else to recycle. They don't pay me.

Speaker 1 But that just shows you the gumption that this guy has got. The gumption to go ahead and recycle cans for acting classes.

Speaker 1 He's had some comic training with the Groundlings and the Upright Citizens Citizens Brigade.

Speaker 1 And he's done, you know, what we do in the shadows. Yes, I would say that that's probably what he's known most for, but don't sleep on puss and boots.

Speaker 1 Puss and boots was a fantastic cartoon, one that I enjoy watching with the kids because it feels like one of those cartoons that slyly nods to the adults.

Speaker 1 Also, in other words, you can watch it and have a good time. And he is in puss and boots also.

Speaker 1 So while what we do in the shadows may be so far his role, his crowning achievement, his role that he's he's most noted for, puss and boots, I would say, would be on a list too.

Speaker 1 If I was going to make one for Harvey, I'd say puss and boots. Put that on there, too.

Speaker 1 I think Harvey is one of those guys you're going to hear a lot more about coming up in the future. And we are very excited to have him here on the commercial break.
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Speaker 1 But when I take a break and through the magic of telepodcasting, I bring Harvey into the studio via the television sitting in front of me, Kristen is also going to be sitting in front of me or technically to the side of me.

Speaker 1 But you get what I'm saying? Don't, don't get fussy. Chrissy's here.
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Speaker 1 And Harvey is here with us now. I am a big fan of some of the work that Harvey has done.

Speaker 1 Welcome, Harvey.

Speaker 2 Thanks. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 You're welcome.

Speaker 1 Okay, so a quick question.

Speaker 1 Chrissy and I were just watching a video about a doctor down in Florida who was arrested for having a party with 30 children under the age of 16 years old, and she was providing alcohol to those children.

Speaker 1 And the question to my co-host here was, did you have the type of parents or did you know the type of parents who would throw those parties when you were young, like go to people's houses and they would have alcohol and people would go wild?

Speaker 2 No, that's kind of crazy. That's

Speaker 2 insane.

Speaker 1 This might be a generational thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, we had like quinceaneras and stuff where, you know, there's kids and adults and everyone's invited to the, you know, barbecue, but you were always aware if like kids were trying to sneak in like a beer or something.

Speaker 2 And you were like,

Speaker 2 no, you, why would you, like, that's just, that sounds dangerous, trouble, wrong, illegal.

Speaker 2 It reminds me of like being one of my early, early in my career,

Speaker 2 we went to a party after an award show. And I was on a show, and I think everyone on our show was like 21, had just turned 21, 22.

Speaker 2 And we went to a party, and there was kids there from like network, children's networks. And I was like, where are the parents?

Speaker 1 Like it was literally like,

Speaker 2 that was my first thought was like, where are the parents? And I remember looking at

Speaker 2 another actor who was on a different show. And they looked at another actor who was on Glee and they were like, we should probably leave.
I don't want to be the oldest person.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get arrested.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because it was somebody's like, you know, like party who was an actor and entertainer. And you go,

Speaker 2 you run in the same circles and people are like happy 21st and whatnot but at a 21st birthday there was definitely kids who were 19 and 20 and uh

Speaker 2 in the state of california if you're the oldest person at a party you are responsible for

Speaker 2 that like household that's the i think that's what someone told me i think that was what the other actor told me and i was like i don't want to be responsible for any of these

Speaker 2 i i don't want to be responsible for any of them uh so we left and we went to get like sushi uh because we like you know even at 21 and 22, you're like, ah, we're mature.

Speaker 2 You're not that much older than these other kids who are 19 and 20.

Speaker 2 No, you're definitely older, and you're an adult in that scenario where you can drink, and you're at people at a party who cannot drink are reaching for a bottle of vodka they can't reach, you know, yeah, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 And you, I think at one point, we looked over, and someone was at the counter reaching for something, and it was kind of comical and kind of like, you know, uh, disturbing because we were like,

Speaker 2 I don't know here when they reach that bottle.

Speaker 1 I think the wildest law that the state of Georgia had on the books, I don't know if it's still here in California, Georgia, two totally different places, but

Speaker 1 in so many ways. But Georgia had a law on the books when I was waiting tables when I first started waiting tables in my teens.

Speaker 1 And one of the laws was if the adult consents to alcohol being, you can't serve it yourself, but if the adult is there and consents to their children drinking the alcohol, then it's illegal. Right.

Speaker 1 And I thought that was the fucking wildest thing. I'm like, wait, so this guy can buy a margarita and hand it to his child and let him drink it.

Speaker 1 I can't serve it to him, but he can drink it if the dad allows it. It was like, it was disturbing.
And I always, having drank alcohol as a teenager myself, I always knew that

Speaker 1 alcohol was probably the drug I was scared most of as a teenager, if I'm being honest, because people got too crazy. Right.

Speaker 2 I don't think I, I always like jokes because people were like, when did you start, you know, once you have a first drink? Like, you sneak when you're 16.

Speaker 2 I didn't have my first drink until my 21st birthday because I was trying to be like you know it was probably the one that scared me the most as well because I was like no that just leads down a slippery slope you know it does yeah what's next heroin

Speaker 1 right

Speaker 2 like once you start what uh but I was so like worried about ruining any kind of chances that I had to like kind of you know go on my path that I wanted to take and I was like I'm not gonna do anything you know and now as an adult I'm like well you know I know the difference between like having a cocktail and going crazy.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, but as a kid, I was like, I did not touch alcohol. And I know my siblings were like, yeah, I had my first drink when I was like 16 at a friend's party.
I was like,

Speaker 2 I didn't do that. I didn't have that.

Speaker 1 I guess I was pretty square then.

Speaker 2 I was like, I don't want to say I was square. I was mature for my age.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you were mature for your age. Well, also, you, I think, were,

Speaker 1 I don't know you, but I'm assuming you were focused and motivated.

Speaker 1 You wanted to accomplish things.

Speaker 1 And you knew that veering off that path in any way could possibly put that dream in jeopardy. So the dream was more important than any one particular drink or night or party or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 2 And I already had so much on my plate. Like, I had full exams and tap finals and like

Speaker 2 co-parenting my siblings because I was like, you know, babysitting. Like, I didn't need to have an alcohol problem.

Speaker 1 Like, I did.

Speaker 1 I would have been like a real like lifetime movie.

Speaker 2 All I wanted was to become an actor and I was a baby on.

Speaker 1 And all he was was a drunk, an abusive sibling.

Speaker 2 Lifetime is proud to present.

Speaker 1 How many siblings do you have?

Speaker 2 I have three younger and one older.

Speaker 1 Okay. And so your parents were working or

Speaker 2 they were always working and they were just like, you know, my parents were just hustlers, so like just trying to get us a better life, you know, in America. And just like, we all pitched in.

Speaker 2 Like, that was just like tradition. Like, it was just like, if you're a Latino family, you pitch in.

Speaker 2 Like, if you're the oldest, you took care of the younger kids, which my older brother kind of bailed, like, he didn't want that. So, he's like,

Speaker 1 and it's your turn. And your turn.

Speaker 2 I think he turned 16 and like moved out. And I was like, where are you going? And I was like, not here.

Speaker 2 And then I became like the oldest in the family. So I guess I

Speaker 2 exceed like that expectation of like, you're the oldest, right?

Speaker 2 And I was like, not really, but I kind of took responsibilities of being the oldest, which I don't regret because i love my siblings and um in a way it was nice for me to like um see that like uh have that parental um instinct in me as a young age because i was like do i want kids and as an adult now i do not and

Speaker 1 well fair enough you did it once do you want to do it again right

Speaker 2 i was like my only regret in life is i had no children yet i raised three you know

Speaker 2 but like uh I love I love the idea that like, you know, now as an adult, I have a different dynamic with my siblings because as a kid, I have this like parental, like, you have to do your homework.

Speaker 2 You have to eat your breakfast and you have to do these things. And that's no fun as a kid because you want to be the fun brother.

Speaker 2 But at the same time, you're like, we have to have structure in the house. And then now as an adult, we have all the fun in the world because that.

Speaker 2 hat has been taken off and I'm like, I'm not your, you know, parental figure. I'm your sibling.

Speaker 2 And so now we have fun and like get together and have dinners and go to Disneyland and, you know, and do adventures that we didn't get to do when we were younger.

Speaker 2 So now as an adult and we have the money to do it, we can do that.

Speaker 2 I'm the biggest kid you'll ever meet because I love going to like Disneyland and love going to theme parks and whatnot. Because as a kid, it was so expensive to go once.

Speaker 2 Now I'm like, we're going all the time whenever you want. Whenever we want, we just get in the car and go.

Speaker 1 Well, I love that. I love that too.
I love that. I think that that's,

Speaker 1 you know, you are rewarded. for kind of the blind faith in the family, in the unit, in the betterment of all.
And that take, first of all, takes a special kind of personality, right?

Speaker 1 And second of all,

Speaker 1 it is a charming and warming thought that your family unit was there kind of all working together to get to a better place. And then you made it.
And now you're here, right?

Speaker 1 And now you're able to do the things that you want to do and move backwards a little bit. I also love that you go to Disney.
I'm a huge theme park Disney fan myself.

Speaker 1 We have Disney World over on this side. You should come visit Harvey.
It's really cool. I was was just at Disney World.
I was just doing it.

Speaker 2 Earlier this year, I actually shot

Speaker 2 a spot there. And one of the perks was, you get to shoot at Disney World.
We're like, do we get to stay at Disney World?

Speaker 2 And they were like, if you want. And I was like, okay, I do.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then we got to go to Epic Universe for the opening week.
And

Speaker 2 that was fun. And so, yeah, that's all, I love all that stuff because something about it, and people was like, you know, I hate that phrase when people are like, Disney adults.

Speaker 2 And it's like, it's not about, I think, I don't think it's about being a Disney adult. It's about doing what you want to do.

Speaker 2 And it's like, if you have kids and you take them to Disneyland, that's your memory with them. But if you have adults who want to go have a cocktail, you know, around the world

Speaker 2 on a ride and just like say, that was good, and then go home, that's your, you know, prerogative. And that's, you're allowed to do that.

Speaker 2 And I think it's funny that it seems like Disneyland or theme parks are just for adults or just for kids and not adults. And that's not true.
I think you can enjoy it at any age.

Speaker 2 Just like go to the beach. You can't say the beach is just for people who love being in the ocean.
And it's like, some people don't like the ocean. Some people just want to ocean waves.

Speaker 2 Some people want to lay on the sand and the warm sand, you know, touch their skin and feel the sun on their face. So it's, I think it's what it means to an individual.

Speaker 2 That's what's important to them and let them be.

Speaker 1 I see a lot of criticism for Disney adults online. I think it's kind of a fun, trendy thing to do to beat up on Disney adults.

Speaker 1 And I agree that some of the behavior is a little much, especially when you may not be allowing the children to have fun.

Speaker 1 But I think those people don't realize that when Walt built the original theme park, the whole idea was we need a place where adults and children can come and have fun because it didn't exist at the time.

Speaker 1 It was either mainly for children or it was like a carnival that would come into town and it was too seedy for the kids and the adults would go.

Speaker 1 And so he said, I want a clean, fun place where the adults aren't just watching the children, they're having fun also. It was the whole f ⁇ ing point in the first place.

Speaker 1 And so, people who are having fun, you know, oh, Disney adults that like theme parks, of course. Who does?

Speaker 1 Who doesn't like a theme park? I mean, need to be a certain age, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I always think half the time, people who say that people who do judge others for doing that, it's like, when was the last time you went to a theme park? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, there are fun sponges out there for sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sometimes, as soon as I think about that, I was like, maybe you're not fun to have around at a theme park.

Speaker 2 Maybe this attitude is what's not welcomed in a group outing at a theme park.

Speaker 2 Maybe you don't have the funds to go to a theme park and you're upset and you're bitter about it and like, that's okay, but why bring someone else down?

Speaker 2 Like, focus your energy on something positive, not the negative.

Speaker 1 I agree, but it's a national pastime right now to beat up another audio.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I think our fans will probably know you from a couple of things. You were a voice in puss and boots.
Love that movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which I didn't know until I started doing some research on you, but I love that movie. Now my kids love that movie.

Speaker 1 And then what we do in the shadows, of course.

Speaker 1 That's probably what I would imagine a large chunk of your fans know you from. Also, I'm interested to know how you got involved in that project.
I think it's brilliant.

Speaker 1 I think it's brilliant, brilliant comedy.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 well, which one? Shadows? Shadows?

Speaker 1 Both. Tell us about Buss and Boots first, and then go for

Speaker 1 Shadows.

Speaker 2 Involved.

Speaker 2 I always wanted to do VoiceOver my whole life. I grew up watching animation.

Speaker 2 I think Yan Rula Toro has a great quote that animation is again for everyone i feel like there's this like uh

Speaker 2 thought that animation is for children or adolescents it's like some of the most touching stories i've seen have been through like stop motion you know animation and i got uh the ask to um if i would or the offer to do perrito uh in uh puss and boots and i was just floored because i've been trying to do voiceover for years i didn't get my first break in voiceover until like season two of shadows like i think it was a casting director who became a fan of shadows and was like, You're really funny, you should audition for this role.

Speaker 1 Ah,

Speaker 2 absolutely, I will audition for anything

Speaker 2 because I had been trying for years, and I always get close. And I always go with someone with a name or someone else who's been in the business for years.

Speaker 2 Because, you know, to be in animation, I think you have to be able to do like a million voices.

Speaker 2 And sure, and those people work and they constantly want to, you know, they book the next gig and they work with the same group of people.

Speaker 2 So it's a tighter community to get into, I feel like, because it's, I think of it this way: think about the actor who did TV and film and movies

Speaker 2 and whatnot. And then after a while, they're like, I don't want to worry about what my hair looks like.
I don't want to worry about what I wore to be addiction.

Speaker 2 I don't want to worry about my height, my, you know, my weight or whatever. What can you do? They is performing, but still part of the artistic world.
It's voiceover.

Speaker 2 whole world and universe with just your voice. You can't rely on your, you know, mannerisms or your facial expressions because you're not in front of the camera.

Speaker 2 All you can rely is telling a story through your voice. And that's hard.

Speaker 2 Sometimes I go home home more exhausted from voiceover than I do from on-camera because you have to convey everything: empathy, love, hate, all these emotions through your voice and through your acting.

Speaker 2 Which, if you think about it, close your eyes. And if you can't see it, then you didn't do a good job.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 an audio cinema, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so I got offered to do a puss and boots, and it was next to Antonio Vanderdas and Salma Hayek, which I grew up watching. And those were mom and dad.

Speaker 2 Like mom and dad to the Latino community were Antonio Vanderreas and Salma Hayek.

Speaker 2 When they succeeded, when it was one feather on their hats, it was a feather on all our hats because it was like watching someone or representation was so limited.

Speaker 2 And so I was just like, gosh, I get to like do this with both of them. And that's so cool to join them as like the third musketeer in this movie.
And I was just, you know, super excited.

Speaker 2 And the product that came out was like the animation style was like the cutting edge. And like, it was really cool.
I got nominated for an Academy Award.

Speaker 2 I didn't think that my first nomination for an Academy Award would be performing as Perito.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. But you take it any way you can get it.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he does have one of the, you know, I just did a comic con this past weekend, and somebody came up to me and quoted their favorite line.

Speaker 2 And I think it's one of my favorite lines of all time: is when Perito is donating his wish to puss, and he says, it's okay, I don't need it because maybe one life is enough.

Speaker 1 It's a very sweet line. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And just to think about that line, and I was like, that's such,

Speaker 2 it's like a perfect line with the period at the end. And it's just like, if I could just go off that line, it's like, it reminds me all the time.

Speaker 2 Like, it's like, it's like, we're always aspiring to live like the Joneses or like wanting to get more. And that's always good to have aspiration.

Speaker 2 But sometimes it's just stop and be like, one life's enough. You know, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's a sweet movie.
And it can be enjoyed by adults and children, right?

Speaker 1 It's not, it's, and I think that a lot of, especially like the Pixar movies and stuff like that, I was just having a conversation with someone about this the other day is that these movies now have depth that I think cartoons when we were kids, if you watch it as an adult, there were probably inside jokes that were put in here and there for adults and kids.

Speaker 1 And of course, you had the Flintstones and The Simpsons and all that other stuff that might have been geared toward adults. But these movies, in a lot of ways,

Speaker 1 the way that they're watched by children is completely different than the way that they're watched by adults. But all of us get something out of it, right? I mean, think about the movie Up, right?

Speaker 1 It's a story about our, you know, aging and how change happens happens quickly and when it happens. But for kids, it's a fun movie about a guy who puts balloons on his house.

Speaker 1 So they all have different meanings and you can watch it. But I think Puss and Boots is one of those too.

Speaker 2 It does. You're right.
Absolutely right. It has a different meaning for a different person for a different reason, you know, and I, that's what I love.

Speaker 2 And it'll mean something as you age with the movie. True.
Like, you know, and, you know, going back to Shadows, like the idea that it means so much to different people for different reasons.

Speaker 2 Like the show that I went and I booked this show by going to Whine and Cheese Night.

Speaker 2 Like my Amy Michaels was in town with her newborn baby and they were getting away from the storm from New York and she says, hey, I'm in town for the week and you just see my baby.

Speaker 2 And I was like, okay. And then I was already like in my pajamas at home and I was like, oh, and it was like raining.
And I was like, okay, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 2 Cause if I don't do it now, I don't know when I'm going to see her again and whatnot. And so I drove over in LA, which in the rain, like, you know,

Speaker 1 once

Speaker 1 I got it. No.

Speaker 2 It just, and I got there, and it was her brother. It was her and her baby and her husband and this girl I never met before.
And it was a small group. And we're just having wine and cheese.

Speaker 2 And the next day, I got a text from an unknown number and it was like, hey, it's me, Yvonne, the girl that I met. And it's like, oh, hey, I got your number from Mimi.

Speaker 2 And I think you're so, you know, effing funny. I think you should audition for my fiancé's new show.
And I was like, oh, I'm not falling for that again. I don't do that.

Speaker 1 You don't do that kind of work, Harvey? I do that kind of work. Next time, tell them, direct them over here.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I was like, I don't think so.
And then she's like, what? And I was like, I'm kidding, what? And she's like, no, but you should hurry because they're auditioning for this role right now.

Speaker 2 And they've already booked everyone. They've already cast the whole cast.
They already cast K1, Mark, Matt, Natasha. And it was the last part.
They were auditioning for this role.

Speaker 2 And I was like, who's the casting director? Allison Jones. I was like, I've never gone in for Allison Jones.

Speaker 2 And even though Allison Jones has cast everything under the sun, like bridesmaids, the office, golden girls, the fresh prince of Bel Air, like stuff that you're like, I love all those things.

Speaker 1 So I was like,

Speaker 2 I want to go and meet her. That's all I wanted to do because I got the script and Guillermo was 25 years older than I am.
And I was like, oh no. And I was like,

Speaker 2 okay, well, if she can get me in the door just to meet her, I'll just go meet her. I'll just go, I'll just go do this character in this age and this body and this time right now.

Speaker 2 That was my thought process. And so I thought, well, I should age myself up.
So like, I wore this like long sleeve orange gross like collared shirt and this sweater vest.

Speaker 2 And I found these Harry Potter glasses and I popped them.

Speaker 2 And I parted my hair in the middle because I had a, my writing partner, Jamie, had a

Speaker 2 monster's book by Guillermo del Toro. and that's the only Guillermo I knew.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's the only Guillermo I know. So I parted my hair in the middle, like his haircut.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I went to the audition, and I usually don't do that, I don't dress up completely for a character.

Speaker 2 I usually wear something in the color and the in the essence of you know that character, but not like fully. And I think in my head, I was like, well, this is gonna stand out.

Speaker 5 No one on television would ever wear this.

Speaker 1 Little did you know.

Speaker 2 And then I booked it, and they were, and I went the first day to the fitting and stuff and they had taken a picture of my audition and literally they mimic the audition outfit.

Speaker 2 And Tyka was in the trailer room the first day for hair makeup and he said, what'd you do for your hair? And I was like, oh, I parted in the middle and I was, I was silly. It was great.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we want that.

Speaker 1 So you're stuck with it. I was stuck with this look that I changed the audition for.

Speaker 2 And then now there's Funko Pops with this character,

Speaker 2 the hair and the outfit. Every time I look at those Funko Pops, I'm like, I did this.

Speaker 2 this i made the choice i made a choice yeah if i i made a choice and now this but now i love that that's become guillermo's aesthetic and people dress up like him and whatnot but what the show has meant to so many people and i had a two brothers who drove um eight hours to a comic-con and they showed up to the you know where they skid signatures and stuff and they go hey do you mind if i face time my dad he's the one to introduce us to your show i was like your dad did that's so cool i was like yeah i was like where is he he's like he's home he's not feeling well i was like okay i was like yeah facetime him and he facetimed and shows me the screen and the two brothers are behind the phone and they start crying and

Speaker 2 i could see on the screen that the the dad is in hospital

Speaker 2 he's like it doesn't look good and he's in hospital and he's connected to oxygen yeah and uh i can tell what this was I can tell that this was a mission that these brothers got in a car and drove eight hours to see me because this is the show that they bonded over with their father while he was going through like a chemo and a really hard time and it didn't look well.

Speaker 2 And then so they drove all the way because they wanted to have this moment to tell him thank you for introducing us to the show.

Speaker 2 And so you never know what something like that is going to mean to someone. You never know what work that you do today, even you think it's a silly show, a sketch or whatnot, a song.

Speaker 2 You don't know what that means to someone until you know what it means to someone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've, we've had that similar experience here. I mean, this is the dumbest comedy podcast.
I mean, there's a lot of dumb comedy podcasts. Most of them are, but this is pretty silly.

Speaker 1 It's pretty dumb. But we have had letters written into us, one specifically that I can think of, that really brought us to our knees.

Speaker 1 And it was like, you know, we just think of it as us coming in here and laughing. And if somebody comes along for the ride, great.

Speaker 1 But then you hear a story about how important something is at a moment in time for someone, and you realize that you're greater than the sum of your parts. This thing has a life of its own.

Speaker 1 These characters that you play mean so much to so many people. And on the other side of a screen, you never really know what someone else is going through.
And that must feel like

Speaker 1 fulfilling in a way that the paycheck can't, fulfilling in a way that the, you know, being in a room full of named actors can't. It's just like it's fulfillment in an honest and organic way.

Speaker 1 Not that making the money and having all of the successes and titles doesn't, but

Speaker 1 in a soulful way. Yeah, in a soulful way, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it does, it feels more fulfilling, like you said, and it feels more rewarding. Because sometimes, you know, truth be told, you do a project and there is no money in that project.

Speaker 2 You're not doing it for the money. I've done projects that I see who a cast is, and I'm like, this is an amazing cast.
This is going to be fun. But the paycheck is nothing.

Speaker 2 You're not doing it for the paycheck, you know?

Speaker 2 You're doing it as you want to have this and you want to have this character and work with these people and create something that you can be like, that's one of the best stuff I've done is stuff that people are like, oh my God, and I saw you, like, you know, for example, like Werewolves Within, you know, something that's like based on a video game turned into like this like indie film that became like this indie darling that like that cast is incredible.

Speaker 2 You know, Sam Richardson, like, everyone from Michaela walked, like, it's just like the list goes on and on of just people that, like, and to this day, it's still some of my favorite people to work with.

Speaker 6 And we all did it for nothing.

Speaker 2 Like, we were all in the middle of the forest, cabins with no Wi-Fi, electricity. We shot that right before the pandemic, and we didn't know the pandemic was about to happen.

Speaker 1 And you guys suffered.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we were like, we should all just live together, guys. We should all just like live together.

Speaker 2 And then, like, we left. We're like, what's happening? I got to the airport and it was like shutdown in LA.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 And I was like, I should have stayed at the cabin, should have stayed at the cabin in the woods. We were already quarantined together.

Speaker 2 And it was like, you know, one of my favorite experiences to this day. People

Speaker 2 tell me, I see the chemistry with you guys, and it's so cool. And I love that.
I love when people can see that people are really having a good time.

Speaker 2 But not that you made a lot of money off of something like that.

Speaker 2 Indie and whatnot. But I like doing projects.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, yes, you can do your multi-million dollar, like big studio films, which I've done, but also those are rewarding as well for different reasons.

Speaker 2 And you meet people that you're admiring, you love. And then you also do the indie films that you're like, this is a cool script.
This is funny. This is different.

Speaker 2 I pride myself in like doing a little bit of everything. So then people are always like, I didn't know you did that role.
I didn't know that was you.

Speaker 2 And like, it's always nice a nice surprise when they see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I've heard a couple of actors say, not on this show, but a couple of actors say, like, you know, some of the more famous actors, if they, if you ever have the opportunity, it sounds like you're, you're getting to that point, you're at that point.

Speaker 1 You do one for the money, right? You probably believe in all of it to some degree, but you do one for the money and you do one for yourself.

Speaker 1 And you do one for the money and you do one for yourself, right?

Speaker 1 And that's, you know, that

Speaker 1 there's some balance in the force, some balance in the universe there that you say, well, this is a job and I do it for a living and I'm good at it good enough to be, you know, called for the multi-million dollar movie.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do that because I need to take care of myself. But then I'm afforded the opportunity to do some passion projects that may not pay well, but they are something that's close to my heart.

Speaker 1 So yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 I think that that's exactly it. Like I gotta the point, this was me like, you know, 20 years ago that I would be like, absolutely, I'll just do it.
You know, you have to do that.

Speaker 2 You're like, I gotta pay rent and whatnot. But like, you get to the point where you're like, yeah, no, I don't think I need to do this.

Speaker 2 Because also, like, there's certain roles that I get offered because people want to see that character over and over again.

Speaker 2 And I'm very particular about like, you don't need to see them over and over again. Like, you know, you saw them and you need to take a break.

Speaker 2 And then maybe they come back later in a different form and a different, you know, variation. And that's fine.

Speaker 2 But I've turned down stuff that was paying well and was a role that was very similar to something I've done. And I was okay with that because I was like, I don't need it that bad.

Speaker 2 And I also don't need to be known as that over and over again.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 So what a great opportunity for someone else to take that role and create. Maybe you discover someone new.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, I've done sometimes where like people say, oh, by the way, that role that you were going to do and you turned out the the last minute that went to this actor.

Speaker 2 And they wanted me to say thanks because they had just had a baby.

Speaker 2 They just had a baby and they were like, this was role supposed to be Harvey, blah, blah, blah. It didn't work out.
And they needed a job and they needed a gig.

Speaker 2 And then they create a character in their own world. And I'm glad that that was an opportunity that was given to someone the way the universe works.
It's going to work always the way it's supposed to.

Speaker 1 And so I don't feel bad when I walk away from a role.

Speaker 2 I apologize if I can't do it because of schedule or I can't do it because I don't want to do that role.

Speaker 2 And it's, I think it's always better to say, I think this would would be a great role for someone else.

Speaker 2 You know, I've actually recommended people for roles because I'm like, this is a great role for this person.

Speaker 2 No shame because I think that at the end of the day, you would want every actor to do the same thing for each other. You want the best person for the job.
And

Speaker 2 that doesn't always happen. Sometimes it's like that just was an offer straight to that person because they're a-list or whatnot, whatnot.
It's going to happen.

Speaker 2 But if you can, why wouldn't you want to pass it over to your fellow lesbian and be like, I think you should do this. This is better for you.

Speaker 2 And I've had that happen to me, like an actor who does a reading of something and they're kind enough to like say, hey, I think you'd be really great for this role.

Speaker 2 And it's a new play or a new something. And I read, I'm like, oh my God, you're right.
This would be a great role.

Speaker 2 And I love that I have a relationship with, you know, fellow actors that we can have that conversation. And it's not like, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine, mine.

Speaker 1 It's like, that's toxic.

Speaker 2 And it's a little bit, you know, but I'm very fortunate. So I'm very lucky to have the conversation with fellow actors that think alike that way.
Well, you're right, too.

Speaker 2 Once you kind of release things and, you know, aren't so precious with things, then

Speaker 2 things go to other people and then things come to you.

Speaker 1 And they come to you.

Speaker 2 I feel like the universe will reward you for keeping.

Speaker 2 Like, that's like, you know, there's no need to gatekeep or cover. And it's like, cause that becomes this, like,

Speaker 2 I can't imagine the, you know, from Lord of the Rings, like,

Speaker 1 yeah, the precious. Yeah, it's toxic.
Yes. It's so toxic.

Speaker 2 And it's just like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And then sometimes I feel like in certain

Speaker 2 without naming names, like this, with actors, you see that slowly becoming like, oh, like you're doing everything and anything. And then you're just, you just, it's like, let go of some of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a grab bag. Yeah.
They just want everything because they can. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like, let go of it.

Speaker 2 I, I, I pride myself in being a working actor and people are like, you're always working. It's like, but always working on different things, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 on different things that you didn't expect.

Speaker 1 You're like, you, you're the voice of, okay, okay, that's new.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're doing that.

Speaker 2 you're playing a demon i never seen you play a demon yeah i'm doing things that i want to do that make me feel like i'm giving and contributing to the world in a different way with my art and it evolves every you know so often and i i'm okay with that you know and people are like yeah but you're always working i was like for everything you see me do you don't see me like the 10 things i didn't get or the 10 things i turned down or the 10th you know what i mean like you don't see that So people see you, they see the aftermath.

Speaker 2 And the funny joke is that people are always like, I discovered this new actor and like, they think they discovered you, or they say that,

Speaker 2 or they call you an overnight success. I was thinking it's funny, overnight success, because it's like, I've been hitting the pavement for a while.

Speaker 1 We have this saying here is that

Speaker 1 overnight success takes far too many nights, right? It really does.

Speaker 1 There's no such thing as an overnight success. I mean, you know, in today's influencer culture, sure, you can have a flashbang, you can have a reel blow up, and you, you know,

Speaker 1 for every Hock Tua, there are 10,000 Harveys that have spent almost their entire lives working at something, and they get a big break, deservedly so, right?

Speaker 1 And no knock on the Haktua, but that's a different kind of success, and it's usually flash in the pan. And you're building a career

Speaker 1 to outlive any momentary success you will have. And that's why I also imagine you don't want to get typecast.
You want to bring in different roles. It's interesting to you

Speaker 1 creatively.

Speaker 2 And the the thing is, like, you just said it yourself, like that, I feel like things are, this business is fickle. So like the highs are high and the lows are low, but the cream will always rise.

Speaker 2 Like it's like, if you're good at what you do, it won't be a one note kind of, you know, one trick pony kind of moment where people, why would people fight to bring the same thing over and over?

Speaker 2 Because after a while, it gets tiresome.

Speaker 2 But if you can, you know, evolve and like, uh, and show different sides of you as an artist, I feel that eventually people are like, yeah, I want to work with him. He can do that.
Great.

Speaker 2 He can play a villain. Great.
He could play Sweetheart. Great.
America's Darling. Great.
Comedic. Whatever it is.
People want to work with you because they know that you're versatile.

Speaker 1 And you can also keep going.

Speaker 2 But I feel like if we see the same person doing the same thing over and over, eventually it's like, that's what you're known for. And that's fine.
But I don't know if that's going to show a range.

Speaker 1 Well, I think there, and there are,

Speaker 1 and I think probably this lives more in the comedic lane, although I know that there's character actors who do, you know, kind of the same character over and over again.

Speaker 1 But I noticed that there's some comedians who play these comedic roles and they kind of play the same character every time, right? And that's okay.

Speaker 1 Like, if we find you funny for this reason, we find you funny forever and ever.

Speaker 1 But when you're an actor, like you really want to get out there and you want to show range so that people say, when they're thinking of a project, they say, well,

Speaker 1 this may not be what I've seen him or her do before, but I think they can fit the role if we give them, you know, if we give them the right material, then they can chew on it. I wonder for you,

Speaker 1 do you

Speaker 1 Did you see like

Speaker 1 with the success of shadows? Do you see like a raise in your profile? Do you start going out on the streets and getting noticed more? Do you get more phone calls?

Speaker 1 Because I know that that's not like, you know, there's so much work that went into that before you kind of get this high, this show that is a critic starling and high profile and all this other stuff.

Speaker 1 But did you see like a noticeable change in

Speaker 2 your amount of phone calls you were getting to your agent's office yeah I did I did and it was great but also I forget sometimes and I think you know my sister reminds me and when we go out in public and stuff because I'm really like I don't care like we'll go out in public and stuff and I don't think about like oh this is a crowded area and it recognized it'll be like you know

Speaker 2 Yesterday we were at the airport in San Antonio, Texas, and we, you know, small airport and great city. It's really lively.
And like, we were just going to go to our plane.

Speaker 2 We saw like a little vending machine licorice vending machine and we like by the tsa area and we went there and tsa agent excuse me sir and i was like oh my god

Speaker 2 and i turned around and they looked serious excuse me sir can i talk to you for a second and i was like oh my god like what i i was like what did i pack like did i like is like i was like do you have a water bottle that i forgot like i don't know Is there edibles in my bag?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Exactly. What?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was just like, my whole life was like, what's going on? Oh my God, what did I do? What did I do? I didn't know what I did.

Speaker 2 Like, my friend's too shy over there. And it was another TSA agent on the other steam

Speaker 2 at work. And I was like, so she's too shy to say hello.
Come over here and say hello.

Speaker 1 And she's like, and I was like, are you guys in the middle of work?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they're not getting paid right now. So they don't

Speaker 2 came over and they said hi. And they're very lovely and very nice.
But I thought it was so funny that I was like, yeah, people will recognize you and leave like their job posts to go say hi.

Speaker 1 I think that person has a gun okay exactly check that back

Speaker 1 oh no everyone's coming through without answering

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 2 um but it was very you know nice of me but i forget that uh in public areas especially that that happens and i notice as the years go by and now the show has ended Weirdly enough, the most random places, like we were in the middle of Ireland and Scotland earlier this year, we were at Lochness.

Speaker 2 We were in the middle of a boat in Lochness, in the water. And one of the people on the boat was like i'm sorry were you from companion and i was like

Speaker 1 yeah yeah in the middle of a boat in the middle of

Speaker 2 wow and not it wasn't even shadows i assumed it would be shadows but companion was a great uh you know hit earlier this that everyone was watching that and i've gotten that a lot like i've gotten the companion a lot around the world uh in japan companion was a hit yeah companion in japan uh so people have been watching stuff and they recognize it and the thing is that they they know your face And sometimes it takes them a second.

Speaker 2 So I see people walk by and they go,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 like, I know that person.

Speaker 2 The worst is when they start talking to someone next to them, and I can't tell. And maybe this is like just my own security.

Speaker 2 I can't tell if they recognize you or they're literally talking shit about you.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, look what that person has on his face.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is my hair okay?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then I'm like, hi, Porn, just come over and say hi.
If you want to say hi, right. Or maybe they don't want to say hi.

Speaker 2 Maybe they recognize it. They're like,

Speaker 2 but I've been, you know, it's mostly fine. It's 90% is nice and they say hi.
But yeah, the phone calls have been coming in because of the show, I feel like, and making connections.

Speaker 2 The last couple of roles have been like, you know, offers that someone presents to you and it's very nice.

Speaker 2 But also, I still audition for stuff because there's stuff that they're going to need to audition anyways, you know,

Speaker 2 that you that I would gladly audition for, you know, so I'm not above auditioning for stuff because if you want the right person for the job, I want to know that you got the right person for the job.

Speaker 2 You know, back to earlier, it's like, why would I want you to give me a role? Because I was on, you know, because I play Perrito, you know,

Speaker 2 I want you to give me a role because you think I can play that criminal because I can play that lawyer. I can play, you think I can play that role.

Speaker 2 I did a good job with the audition or you really believe in my talents that no audition is needed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you really do believe, you know. But that does

Speaker 2 someone was saying the other day that I said Kristen Shaw about this like it's funny when people do offer you something and then

Speaker 2 you do get the part and you do the job, and then there's questions, you know, they're like, well, maybe we should do it a different way. It's like, you gave me the part.
What do you want me to do?

Speaker 2 You know, it's just like,

Speaker 2 direct me, tell me what you want to do.

Speaker 2 But that happens, you know, I think Lucas, who played my love, interest, and companion, just had a book come out. Shout out to Lucas.
You go get his book. I wrote this for attention.

Speaker 2 That's the title of the book.

Speaker 1 What's the title of the book? Say it again?

Speaker 2 For attention.

Speaker 1 I wrote this for attention.

Speaker 1 It's a good title.

Speaker 2 And he talks about like getting fired. And like, you know, he got fired for mad men.
And like everyone, every actor should get fired once. And everyone I know has had a story.

Speaker 2 I've had a story like where you, it does humble you because even though you got a job based on like, we love you. And that's, and then you get replaced or recast.
Again, it wasn't the right fit.

Speaker 2 But people make assumptions that, you know, it's smooth sailing. Like you're always going to be on the smooth path after a certain role.
You're going to be well off money for the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 And that's not necessarily true. This isn't like the money that we're making in the, you know, people are making the 80s and early 90s on films and stuff.
That's not

Speaker 2 the so we're so saturated with you know content that there's no way they can pay those uh checks like they used to right

Speaker 2 one one one one percent you know that uh what has been grandfathered in from that already but no one's getting those checks that the way they used to and so you possibly have to work on gigs and movies and whatnot to make a living at this because there's so many uh you know people out there and uh Hatua moments where people

Speaker 2 casting that role goes to someone who is the hot viral moment.

Speaker 1 Well, speaking of, there was a viral moment, and I don't know if this was a joke or not.

Speaker 1 Some people say it is, some people say it isn't, but there's like a comedy actress in California who did a bit for a movie, like a Netflix streamer, and they replaced her with the Haktua girl.

Speaker 1 She went and filmed. Did you see this?

Speaker 2 She had a viewing party.

Speaker 1 She had a viewing party.

Speaker 2 She invited her friends over and that's i i could so relate to that my biggest fear is doing a part when i was like starting off and even now like honestly like inviting people to a movie premiere or inviting you people to an episode that you did and then cut you out

Speaker 2 and they find out in front of you with you at the same time you're not in the movie that's you got completely replaced that must be so heartbreaking and devastating that I can't even imagine someone was video and for a while I was like is this real did someone do this you know for cloud or something because that is so heartbreaking that I hope it's not real Yeah, but apparently it was or some people have said it was she was replaced her exact role was

Speaker 1 only like three scenes

Speaker 2 They reshot that scene and recast that part with Haktua girl Yeah, and sometimes they don't tell you they do that So sometimes, you know, I've been at table reads where like I, you know, you meet the cast and you're like, we're going to be friends forever.

Speaker 2 The next six months are going to be the best time. We're like, let's all exchange info and Instagrams and whatnot at the table read.

Speaker 2 And after the table read the studio is on you know screen and they go to the director can we talk to you for a second and everyone's oh okay business like you know talking work and we're gonna leave and you leave we're like let's see each other for dinner we'll see each other for dinner we're moving to the big city we're in new york or whatnot and then uh by the time you get home to get ready for dinner you look at your instagram and one of the cast members is at the airport oh

Speaker 2 that's gotta suck yeah at the airport and we this is a table read this actually happened where we're at uh we're doing table read for eye candy for mtv and Friday afternoon We had the table read and it just the chemistry wasn't there.

Speaker 2 They didn't feel it. I don't know what

Speaker 2 but the the actor really talented actor dancer whatnot and by Friday afternoon they're going home by Monday we start

Speaker 2 by Monday we have a new actor wearing that actor's clothes

Speaker 2 and we have to be like hey and actually it works out for the best because that actor turned out to be phenomenal and an amazing person and they were about to quit acting right before they got that call because they had not gotten that role.

Speaker 2 They were put on standby.

Speaker 2 Standby, they didn't get it. And they're about to quit acting.
And then they get the call. They got the call late Friday night.
Can you be here Monday?

Speaker 1 We'll fly you out tomorrow. Yeah.
Listen, I mean, that's the name of the game. And, you know, you're right about one thing.
I want to just step backwards a little bit.

Speaker 1 This is not the money

Speaker 1 pit that it was back in the 80s and 90s. But back in the 80s and 90s, there were few.

Speaker 1 There were few, right? There were few opportunities. There were channels.

Speaker 2 There were five channels.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there were five channels.

Speaker 1 And there were, you know, four uh big uh studios and they they were all the gatekeepers now some would say they took chances on things they wouldn't take chances on now but now there are hundreds of television shows hundreds of streaming applications and so there's a lot more opportunities but you have to work harder it's it's like you're not making a million dollars per roll maybe you make a hundred thousand but maybe that's the role you got for the year right and that makes that kind of money and so and that i think that's the plight of every artist right now musicians podcasters There are a few like Joe Rogan or whoever that make $400, $500 million a year, but most of us are making a living.

Speaker 1 That's what we do, right? And so, and blessed to be doing that. Hey, listen, I wouldn't complain.
I'm not digging ditches for a living, so I'm not going to complain. So, you're doing what you love.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's all.
That's all. I mean, who can, not many people say that.
We've talked about this. Yeah, not many people say that.
Okay, you currently have hell of a boss that's on Amazon.

Speaker 1 What's coming up for Harvey? Where do we get to see you next?

Speaker 2 I'm really excited for uh damned if you do which is doing the festival circuit right now uh with kate segal uh mike flanagan's in it uh makes a nice cameo and uh the cast is really great uh i get to play a demon who makes a deal um i love it and that's always fun uh the yeah i would think so playing a demon would be fun

Speaker 2 i got really into character uh it's very campy and i love that i feel like i haven't really done that with like you know almost like a farce kind of uh comedy and so it's very fun to see that i went to the premiere of it um in hollywood last week and the reviews were great and uh people are it's like finger looking good it's like one of those like movies that you're like yes you know what you're getting yourself into uh also another film is pickleheads that's uh takes the world of uh pickleball competitive pickleball to the next level

Speaker 1 oh i don't think i've seen the trailer for this has the trailer's been out for a minute is that right I think so.

Speaker 2 I know that everyone jumped on the wagon of doing a pickleball movie. So I think

Speaker 1 there's a few of them out there. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 But ours is premiering in Austin, and it's super fun.

Speaker 2 Love the character I play. It's just totally different than what you've seen me play.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I'm just really excited for these roles that are coming out and also Hell the Boss with Visago. I'm actually recording a new episode next week for that show.
And that's such a huge fan base.

Speaker 2 The fans.

Speaker 2 Comic-Cons and full-on dress. Like somebody came dressed like the first episode came out of of Visago earlier in the year and they just came out fully made from head to toe, full costume.

Speaker 2 And I was like, did you make this?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 it took me like, you know, four months. And I was like, whoa.
Like, it was like, the fans are incredible.

Speaker 2 You know, Viv is like an incredible showrunner who created the show. And it's just

Speaker 2 a great escape.

Speaker 1 And it's for adults.

Speaker 2 It's definitely for adults. Like the San Diego.

Speaker 1 It's definitely for adults.

Speaker 2 For adults because it's foul language, sexual scenarios. And

Speaker 2 it's just great and it's just fun to do. But yeah, a lot of fun stuff that I'm looking forward to do.
I also have a movie that we're placing now, actually, that I shot with Billy Lorde.

Speaker 2 And it's just that one I'm really excited for people to watch.

Speaker 1 I love her.

Speaker 2 She's fantastic.

Speaker 1 She really is.

Speaker 2 Anything she does, but we became really good friends. And I just want everyone to see her in this because we just have a good time.
So it's really fun.

Speaker 1 Nice. Well, Harvey, it has been such a pleasure to meet you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, honestly.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 we have said this a lot on the commercial break. You visit the commercial break for two reasons: you're on your way up or you're on your way down.

Speaker 1 And we can confidently say, with Harvey, you're on your way up.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 we really appreciate you being here. And I welcome you back

Speaker 1 anytime. You're welcome to come back.
This has been a really enjoyable conversation. Congratulations on all the success, my friend.
We are here rooting for you.

Speaker 1 And thank you so much. Thank you.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 I'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1 Anytime. Bye-bye.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Let me do something Brian has never done. Be brief.

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Speaker 1 What a very, very nice gentleman Harvey is.

Speaker 1 I like that when I asked whether or not Harvey had ever been to a party where parents were allowing for drinking, Harvey said, absolutely not. That sounds dangerous.
Not going to do that.

Speaker 1 I did not hang out with those kind of people in high school, but I should have. I should have hung out with those kind of people in high school.

Speaker 1 No shade here, Harvey. No shade here.
I now hope my children are exactly like you. I think the kids these days are like Harvey.
I think a lot of them go, ah, that drinking's not for me.

Speaker 1 Because alcohol, not only is it a gateway drug to a lot of other bullshit, but it really gives you a, it really gives you a fucking headache. At least sometimes, when I drink it.

Speaker 1 And I did drink it a lot when I was a kid. When I was his age, I would drink a lot, a lot.
A lot.

Speaker 1 Anyway, okay, enough of mine. Harvey, all of his links are in the show notes.
Go ahead and watch it. If you haven't started What We Do in the Shadows yet, you're too late.
It's over.

Speaker 1 But go re-watch it. I think it's on Hulu now.

Speaker 1 So Disney Plus, there you go. Disney Plus has what we do in the shadows.
Who would have thunk it? Not me when I was watching it, that's for sure.

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