Best of DLS: The Joan Rivers Hang Up
Do you miss the sound of somebody hanging up the phone on terrestrial radio? Then boy oh boy do we have the hour for you. We kick it off with a Cal Ripken interview in which he tells us where he does (or does not) stand on Hillary vs Obama in 2008, then play a game of True or False with Bomani Jones. That's just the warm-up because after that, we have three of the most epic hang-ups in show history from interviews gone horribly wrong. First up is Joan Rivers, followed by Michael Phelps, and capped off with Nick Lachey. There's gotta be one Grinch at every Christmas, but thankfully for you, we've got three of the best coming right up.
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For me, that's word association. Christmas Eve and Stan Van Gundy talking to baseball managers.
Oh, yeah. From now on, it will be.
Every time I think of Christmas Eve, I'm going to think of baseball managers with Stan Van Gundy. And this hour has a little bit more baseball.
I'm going to be honest with you, Chris.
This right here is probably the most awkward hour that we have
combined of some very strange content.
First, more baseball. Cal Ripken Jr.
Okay, an interview with Kal Ripken Jr. in 2008, this is march of 2008 of which dan starts by asking him obama or hillary
like a game show like yeah because dan because dan um then was that like we were voting there yeah it was like who would you prefer okay cow ripkin jr who just like who famously does not talk about politics obama or hillary i mean i don't hate that game of like going to the movies obama or hillary see that's a i'd rather all right so let's at the turn of the new year chris i want you and i to propose that when we start
this year, 2026, first show back. I'm serious now.
Like, we're not doing bit.
I want to play with Dan. I want to start the local hour, play a sounder, Obama or Hillary.
And then we just start proposing. I'm about to have my year in review with Carl.
I'm going to pitch that.
Can you pitch it?
Yeah. Chris, I'm serious.
I'm going to pitch clock it.
So we start with that, including, you know, A-Rod patterning himself after Cal.
Dan said, hey, which athletes do you wish would shut up? There's good stuff there. Then a game with Bamani Jones, True or Kakua.
Ah. Based off Mantai Tale.
Some questionable music sounders used in that one. And then we're going to play you three straight interviews in which the guest hung up on the show.
Nice.
Joan Rivers, Michael Phelps,
and Nick Lache. Oh, I remember all those.
I don't even know it. I think Joan Rivers is probably my favorite there, but those were all great.
They're really good. The Nicolashea one.
I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did. Yeah.
I'm just going to be honest. His patience level.
Anyway, weird hour you're about to listen to. Enjoy it.
Wower.
He's a Hall of Famer. He does a ton for kids, learned at his father's knee
and does a lot of good stuff for kids. pours himself into that.
We'll talk about real baseball, what he's selling these days in a moment. But first, Cal Ripken Jr., Obama or Hillary?
Maybe I got the
wrong show.
So you're not going anywhere near it? You don't want any part of it? No.
I've talked with you before about the sharing of opinions and athletes taking stances, and you've said that you have stances, but you don't feel the need to share them. That is because why?
Is there nothing in it for you, Cal? No, I think that there's a bigger responsibility to your platform.
And just because you can catch, hit, and throw doesn't mean that you know everything about everything. And you got to be careful
how you express it and how you use it. And
I guess if you really wanted to influence people or you wanted to get involved in something, then... then
then you use it. But just to use it for no real reason
or if you're not comfortable using it in regard to politics, religion, whatever, I think that you should have the ability to keep it to yourself.
Fair to say that the only place that you've chosen to use it most passionately and most comfortably is with helping children?
Well, I mean, that's the platform that I'm most comfortable with because as a kid, I looked up to the baseball players and I just thought that it was the greatest thing in the world.
And then when you become a baseball player, you realize that you have that sort of influence. And, you know, there's no getting around that.
I mean, you are a role model
in many ways just to the fact that you're a baseball player. So I tend not to fight it on that argument, but say,
let me try to do as many positive things as I can so I can be a good influence to the kids when it comes in
the arena of sports or baseball. Cal Rickman Jr.
with us on 790 the ticket. Are you opinionated in private? Really opinionated?
Like passionate, banging on tables, yelling at your friends about what you believe.
I think that
I like to debate things. I like to ask questions.
And so I like to get to the bottom of things with a series of questions. And maybe I try to win a debate or two by
what was it called, the Socratic method, as opposed to yelling and screaming across the table to be heard. A-Rod learned at your knee, had a poster of you up in his room, and models himself after you.
He has told me one time that he asked you the proper way to shake hands once. He's like you when asking questions of everybody.
Did you notice the first time that he came up to you or every time thereafter, did you notice how much he patterned himself after you or wanted to learn from you? Well, I mean,
it was a high form of compliment when
a kid, and I'll say kid because I met him when he was 16 years old, had a chance to shake his hand then, and my first impression was that
he was still a boy in many ways, but he was was a grown-up man in a physical nature, and his talent was just off the charts. But,
you know, he he's his own guy, and I think modeling himself after in the same way I think I modeled myself after Brooks Robinson in many ways.
But then you start to get comfortable with who you are and
what you want to want to be. And I don't think
I don't think he models himself or he copies me. I think he tries to take certain things that
I've done that he thinks is good and add that to his game, so to speak. Hall of Famer Cal Ripken Jr.
with us on 790 the Ticket.
He's a part of a new website that's offering a video game, an online community for baseball enthusiasts all over the globe. We'll talk to him about that in a moment.
Go rapid fire with me here a little bit, though, Cal.
Who's a guy in your sport, your time, that you looked at and you said, that guy worked harder than I did? Manningly. Who's a guy more willful than you?
A guy you looked at and said, that guy has more will than I do? Kirk Gibson.
Who had better support at home than you did? Better support from a father that you looked at and said, that guy had a better teacher than I did?
No one. Yeah, that one, that's the end of it, right? Yep.
Have you, how much, how much from your father? And you learned a ton from your father.
When raising your own children, Cal, do you look at and eliminate, do you try and follow your father's model one, two, three, or is there stuff out there that you're softer and more gentle because there's stuff that you don't want for your kids?
No, I think probably the second answer, there's a lot of things out there. My dad was old school in many ways
and in many ways my mom played the role as my dad in many cases because dad was away.
So I think I'm probably as a father I'm a combination of how my mom fathered me and also how my dad fathered me, if that makes any sense to you. Sure.
So, yeah, I'm much more supportive. I'm much
more hands-on.
And I like spending as much time and like doing things with both my kids in ways that my dad didn't. Do you feel bad that your mom doesn't get more of the credit?
Because in the caveman world of sports, we go toward the father, the father, the father, and that your mom doesn't get an equal amount of the credit. Well, I think anybody that
really thinks about it, your mom plays a huge role in how you turn out. In my particular case,
my mom, because of baseball, did play a role of the disciplinarian and the nurturer at the same time.
And I guess when she couldn't handle it, she would always say, I'm going to tell your dad when he gets home, and then we'd be terrified.
That works. Terror works in the home.
Who's an athlete? You look at your sport, your time, more competitive than you.
A guy you looked at and said, that guy's probably a little more competitive than I am.
That's a hard one. I think generally speaking,
you know, people are very competitive at the highest level, and that's something that we all share and have in common. I can't think of one.
More consistent than you?
Shoot, a lot of people.
I change my stance all the time. I had hot streaks up and down hitting-wise.
So I'd say, you know, most offensive players.
Well, I didn't say better than you. I know you're going to defer to some offensive players who you think might be better than you, but consistent playing.
I guess
consistency gets associated with you. Are you consistent in other things other than playing every day?
Or yeah, I I think my demeanor and the approach and you know consistency I think would be defined as
what what kind of contributions, all of the contributions can you make on a daily basis that allows you to be consistent in your effort and
consistent with
being valuable to the team. Again, I think a lot of people you know and when you play big league baseball and you go to the bat
shoot 500 and 500, 600 times, there's going to be times when you can't hit, but there's a lot of other things you can do. So
I don't know. I mean, consistency, a model of consistency.
I used to like to think that George Brett,
when I played against George all those years, you know, even when he looked bad in swinging, he looked like he was still hot. So yeah, George Brett probably would be a model of consistency.
Paul Maulder will probably be one as well. Cal Ripken Jr., the Hall of Famer, with us on 790, the ticket.
More impressive streak. You are Favre.
Favre.
I didn't have people gunning at me. I had a few people coming at me at second base, but I could always see them coming.
But
Brett's got to hang in there, hang in the pocket. For a long time, knowing he's going to get hit.
And there's a lot bigger, faster, stronger people coming after you.
I was going to say, at second base, there weren't a whole lot of 290-pounders coming at you other than Mo Vaughan.
Yeah, and he just wasn't fast enough to get there. Real quick, last question before we let you go.
We don't know if this is lore or we've got this story told to us, and I don't know.
I want to know in the baseball community if there's any sort of authenticity to it. Apparently, Julio Franco, there is legend around Julio Franco and
his substantive gifts. I can't give you, you either know what I'm talking about or you don't.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
No, I don't know what he's talking about. All right, I'm glad I don't.
All right, yeah, and I am, and I am too, frankly. We're going to let you go on that note.
Cal, thank you for being on with us.
Okay, you're quite welcome. Bomani, Barry Bonds Bonds would be forgiven just as readily today if he confessed and had raised $500 million for cancer.
True or Kakua? Kakua. Kikua!
Okay, why is that Kakua?
Look, man. We don't care about everybody's philanthropic efforts.
There are a lot of people that we despise out here that's raising a lot of money for a lot of good causes.
We don't ask it about everybody.
Sometimes we decide that people's charity matters, sometimes we don't. And people knew that Lance Armstrong was a jerk, but it wasn't the prevailing sentiment about him.
That's always been the case for Barry Bonds.
I want to play, Dan. I want to play badly.
Like, I want to play. I want to play this game.
You want to play or you want to host? I want to play. I want to play.
You want to play? Yeah. I want to play.
Stew got.
there's an elephant in the room in this Tao story. True or Kakua? Kikua.
Kakua.
I just like saying Kakua. Okay.
So you don't really have anything here other than that. Would you like to host the show? Would you? Yeah, I'd love an opportunity to host the show.
True or Kakua, Dan.
You were desperately searching for the race angle on this Tao story.
True. True.
But there's not one.
So instead, we've just got Polynesian music. Hold on, I got one, though.
Dan. That's not the way they get.
That's not the one. Well, I'm asking a question now.
That's not the way we play this story. Mike, Mike,
get on the button. I have a question.
I mean, I can.
There will be a race angle in this story. True or Kakua?
Kikua. Kikua!
What's the race angle? That's the wrong answer.
All right, well, wait a minute. How are you playing the game? Because you just grabbed my phallic match game microphone.
Did you just say phallic? Yeah, my phallic family feud microphone.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, let me explain. Let me explain.
I'm telling you this, man.
This is the A-A.
I'm trying to help you out. I'm trying to help you for this race angle you keep looking for.
I'm trying to give it to you. Hold on, let's play the game correctly.
Did you like your race angle? I'm trying to make your life better, Dad. True or Kakua, there is a race angle, Bomani, that will appear on this story soon.
Potentially true. True.
Now go.
Basically,
when you're a guy like Tayo, that is the non-white guy in a place like Notre Dame, it's all fun and games unless they feel feel like you have embarrassed them.
At which point the turn will be swift and the turn will be vicious. If he is proven that he has not told the truth here, get ready.
That turn is going to outweigh what the actual quote-unquote crime was. Trust me.
Bill Pollyon, true or Kakua? Jeff Ireland is going to botch all of these early round draft picks.
Well, I don't wait a minute. He's not playing the game correctly.
Big voice. Big voice.
You hate pronouncing Samoan names and Bomani's name. True or Kikua? You bet your ass it's true.
Bleep you, Bomani Jones.
Can't get his name right. Not one time has he been able
to guys ever get my name right. I'd like to try to host again, Dan.
I'd like to try to host again. It's possible.
All right, go ahead.
True or Kakua, Bomani, this audio is the most uncomfortable you've ever heard dan while asking a question this is reckless and it feels wrong with with a college athlete but timothy burke with us on dead spin um i'm i'm just wondering if this is the uh you know the awkward clumsy way um to cover cover up something here to everyone involved family everyone like one of the questions that bur gets birthed here and you'll forgive my clumsiness in the asking of it.
I know you're uncomfortable. It's a place a lot of people are going to.
Well, I mean, is it possible here, or Timothy, as I've having exhaustively researched this particular story,
are you led to think that there's a covering of sexuality happening here?
Ooh, true or Kakua, gonna have to go. Yes, is that the most awkward I've heard you?
True. True.
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Let's call it a politely disagree. Ooh, how about this? An oopsie.
There you go.
All right, put it on the poll at Lebatard show.
Should a challenge be called an oopsie to placate the referee's ego? An oopsie flag. Stugats.
Or the red flag, the challenge flag, should not be called a challenge flag, or the flag should say on it, love your butt. Red is also an aggressive color.
Very, very aggressive. Maybe pink.
We should actually,
we should have them throw daisies and call them whoopsie daisies.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good idea. Whoopsie daisies.
This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.
This is a weird and wonderful coincidence.
I didn't know until a couple of minutes ago, Stugatz, that two of our guests today have beef, that Doyle Brunson and Joan Rivers apparently don't like each other very much.
Doyle Brunson is going to join us later in the show. Among the things that Doyle Brunson writes of Joan Rivers, if you gave Joan Rivers a penny for intelligence, you would get a refund.
That's not funny. Doyle Brunson, not a comedian, but I don't understand.
Doyle Brunson seems like a very nice man.
Joan Rivers, a comedy legend, is going to be performing tomorrow night at the Adrienne Arsh Center in Miami. You could get tickets.
Joanrivers.com is her website.
Tickets are available at archcenter.org. I'm pronouncing that so poorly that you're not going to be able to find it.
A-R-S-H-T Center.org. I guess I'll start there, though.
Joan, why?
I mean, what's going on? Who is this person? I never heard of him. He's a poker player.
He's mad, I guess, because... Oh, go away and leave me alone and get off trying to get famous on my back.
Oh, I'm really upset. What's his name? Doyle Brunson.
Oh, he doesn't think I'm fine. Oh, well.
Well, that ruined my day. Who the hell is he?
Who gives a damn? Oh, I'm really...
Tell him, darling, when he's 76 years old and he's had a career like I've had, and when he graduated Phi Beta Cap at 19, and when he's got an IQ at 135 and over, come and talk to me, you moron.
And get off my back, and don't get famous with me, and don't make jokes about me, because I don't know who you are, nor do I care.
Go back in and die under a deck of cards.
I love when people who don't know you
that aren't in your league comment. I find this really distasteful.
If you said Steve Martin doesn't think she's funny, I'd say, oh my gosh. Or you understand what I'm saying?
Well, he didn't say that you weren't funny. He said that you aren't intelligent.
Oh, yeah. I'm really stupid.
I don't even want to go into this. I truly, you know, you only, my husband was English, you only argue and dislike your peers.
Well, apparently. When this man comes at me with a five-beta kafa tea, graduating from college at 19, having a career the way I've had, then we'll discuss it when he's world famous.
Otherwise, I don't give. Get ready to bleep.
Do you bleep? No, we don't bleep. Well, it starts with S and it ends with T.
All right. All right.
So don't start with me with this stupidity. All right.
She doesn't give a shot. I don't care.
So let's get on to something that's fun. I mean, I find this outrageous that you call me up to tell me about this moral.
No, I didn't.
It was an accident, and it's a mistake I'm always making at the start of interviews. I should start softer.
I should just say, Joe, don't.
No, as I said, start with someone that you have respect for, not with someone who's totally unknown. For what it's worth, Dan's sweating right now, Joe.
Yeah, and here's what was...
Oh, you shouldn't sweat. Yeah, well, because you're a legend, and the problem, I guess, was because you were on, you know, that Trump show and you went after poker players.
I won the Trump show from a woman who is a piece of garbage,
and I wanted whatever she was. She happened to be a poker player.
Who cares?
Who cares?
You called her Hitler.
Yeah.
She was a despicable liar.
I found her ab That to me is what you say when you don't like somebody. Well, that's very strong, though, Joan.
Oh, yeah.
You know, guys, I'm going to hang up now because I thought we were going to have a nice talk, and I wanted to talk about my coming to Miami tomorrow.
And if you think now I'm going to defend that I called somebody Hitler, are you Jewish? I am not. I am.
Shut up. Then you don't know what you're talking about.
Can we get any clearer? No, you're not. Shut up.
You don't know what you're talking about. It's very strong.
It's all I'm saying. I want to.
Tony.
That couldn't have gone better, I don't think. I don't think for our purposes.
You nailed it. I didn't mean for it to go that way.
I wanted to talk to her. She's a legend.
Just leave it alone. It was perfect.
Oh, my God. Perfect.
I did make that mistake I always make, though.
Why didn't you?
You know,
the legends, they want to be treated as legends at the beginning. You probably could have softened her up.
Of course.
She's a legend. She's doing us a favor coming on.
And you came out of the box with, I know. This guy thinks you're a moron.
Defend yourself. And she rightfully is.
Yeah. You played that wrong, Dick.
Can we call her back? I'd like to apologize.
I don't think she's in the mood for us. First of all, in all honesty, I don't know why she does this stuff anyway.
She just seems tired of it all. Doesn't she?
Well, she really doesn't need to do anything. I know.
Well, clearly, she still has a desire to do it. She's doing it.
So
having her on, I mean, there are very few people in the history of this show who have the resume that that woman has. And that is absolutely where I should have started.
This is a mistake.
It's a pothole I've fallen into about a dozen times where I'm trying to inform the audience, but I thought it was a delightful coincidence.
It's a total coincidence that we have these two people on and they hate hate each other. But Dan, you start the Doyle Brunson interview with questions about Joan Rivers, not the other way around.
That's where we messed up. Well, I will tell you, though, as I'm thinking about it, I'm talking about it, and I'm thinking it through,
that's a little quick on her part. Like, come on.
I mean, if you call someone Hitler, I'm Jewish. I'm a little offended by that.
That's not something you just throw around. You know,
now that I'm thinking about it, that's a little quick on her part. I agree.
You don't throw around the Hitler part, but she was upset. What really triggered that, Hawk?
Her whole mood was being asked about Doyle Brunson. Think about that.
She's Joan Rivers. I'm an interesting combination of mortified and delighted right now.
It's a strange thing that
to happen. The same thing happened with Nitro, where it's like, oh, my God, this is horrible.
Also, it's wonderful. Well, that was, I mean,
I enjoy a cantankerous interview every now and then. That's kind of rude of her to hang up.
That's a little, I mean, you didn't say anything. No, but she warned me.
She warned me.
She She did warn me, and I should have backtracked at that point. That was male ego, prideful male ego that was like.
You wanted the last word. Well, just hit when Hitler's the last word.
I wanted to be like, come on, that's a little strong. To call anybody Hitler is a little strong.
She said to you, you don't know what you're talking about, move on.
And you went back to it one more time. I still think it was a little quick on me.
Somebody writing in, you guys are jackasses. This act is getting old.
There was no act there. I wanted to talk to her.
I wanted very much to talk to her. I respect her.
I think she's funny.
I thought go die under a deck of cards was an excellent phrase for her to use that was appropriately mean and legendary.
Someone actually thinks that you intended and you wanted it to play out in front of everyone's ears that a 76-year-old female got the best of you. She beat you down.
I am somebody who does not mind at all being embarrassed in public.
And in retrospect, now that it's over, now that it's over, I'm like, wow, that was funny and good, but I didn't intend for her to get agitated with me. No, you had a whole list of questions.
questions i had a lot of i wanted to talk comedy with her the woman's funny we were looking forward to it there's no way there's no possible way to get it i don't want to i mean i think we've gotten the best that we can get out of that that it can't go better why don't you promote her show though again though to let's do her a solid she's a legend she plays at the adrian arsch center in miami tomorrow night you can go to arschcenter.org if you want to get tickets people are writing in that i attacked her people oh well wait a second you didn't attack i'm telling you that i'll tell you exactly how it happened there.
I learned minutes before the interview, minutes before they handed me a sheet of paper that said, her and Dor Brunson do not get along. And I'm like, what are the odds?
What are the odds that we have these two people on the same day? So all I was doing is sharing with the audience what I thought was a coincidence. And then, you know, the whole thing got carried away.
Now, the only other guest we have on today is Greg Cody. If you found out moments before that she was beefing with Cody, would you have brought that up? Yes.
Well,
it's interesting, Stu Gantz. I mean,
does Joan Rivers have a lot of wars going? She's got a war going on with poker players in general. I didn't think she was legitimately upset.
No, she was. It's beneath it.
I did not think she was legitimately upset. I thought it was part of her act.
You know how Don Rickles insults people?
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Dan and Stugats, I'm going to tell you, don't mess with a fasty broad like Joe Rivers. I remember back one day back in St.
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Next thing I know you got like a tail. I walked in and there was Shaq just railing away.
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in Beijing, Olympic god Michael Phelps became the only person to win eight gold medals in a single Olympic.
Since then, he's appeared on Oprah Saturday Night Live and now the pinnacle of his career, the Dan Lebetard show with Stugats.
He's focused on raising awareness for swimming, for swim safety, for getting kids into the pool. He's created the Michael Phelps Foundation to further that cause.
He's also interested in meeting as many hot girls as possible and showing them his medals. Michael Phelps, with us on 790 the Ticket.
We start here, Michael.
Give us a story that involves your agent calling you and you saying, holy bleep, I can't believe they're giving me that much money. Wait, what was that?
A story that involves your agent calling you since your life has changed so much and saying, you saying, holy bleep, I can't believe they're offering me that much money to do that.
I've never heard that and never said that, so I have no idea where that came from.
So you, but you have no, you have, that's never happened where you can't be, you're amazed by the amount of money someone's offering you
I I've never said that no
twelve thousand calories a day Michael how does one eat that much do you hate eating
well it's
I I actually eat eight to ten thousand I'm not really sure where twelve thousand ever came from but it's actually eight to ten thousand calories but do you like eating or is it a chore
I like eating and and you know when I spend so many hours a day or work out so many hours out of the day, you know, you have to be able to replenish all all the
calories that you burn off. You know, for me, when I'm in the pool,
you were at the MTV Music Awards a few nights ago. Were you treated as the biggest star there? Were people like Kanye and Brittany coming up to you and telling you what big fans they are?
No, not at all.
You know, those guys are, those guys are
and you know, those guys are incredible at what they do, and it was just cool for me to be able to meet those guys and
just sort of be around those guys.
What is the single coolest thing to happen to you since the Olympic Games?
You know, I was able to just recently start my foundation
and,
you know, be able to, you know, start something where I'm able to promote healthy lifestyles and active lifestyles for children and people all over the world.
It's something that I'm really interested in, and that's a passion of mine. And actually, today,
we just unveiled some of the boxes of Kellbog's products that I will be
on the box of. And they actually donated a check, gave me a check for $250,050,000
to go towards my foundation. That was a nice move there, Michael, because you just segued right into what it is that you were selling there.
When that can't be the coolest thing to have happened to you since the Olympics.
I'm sure you're very happy about it, but the coolest thing, the thing that you tell your friends about when you're out getting a beer?
Well, Igo,
my goal is to raise the bar in the sport of swimming, and
this is a passion of mine, and this is something that I look forward to doing. So, you know, that is a very fun part for me.
Do you go into the nightclub with these Kellogg's products and just drop them on the floor with your face on them?
Sorry, I think we have to head to the next movie, but sorry, thank you very much for your time. All right, Michael, good talking to you.
I didn't even get to ask what the
guy was just yonder. That was ridiculous.
What did he call you at the end?
Oh my gosh.
All right, Nick Lachey, we've been talking about some of the things that he's doing. He's done some stuff for ESPN.
He's a former boy band member.
Now he's partaking in something called the sing-off it started Monday night on NBC it culminates with a live finale on December 21st so it's sort of a it is a week-long show he's a big sports fan as well you could check out what they're doing over there at nbc.com but one of the reasons we're having him on is because we want to talk to him about the idea of media and flash bulbs and paparazzi being in your life and I guess you've experienced to some level of degree what Tiger Woods is going through right right now, a little bit, ever since your reality show with Jessica Simpson.
You've been invaded by gossip magazines, TMZ.
Nick Lachey, welcome to the show. How are you viewing what it is that is going on with Tiger Woods right now?
Well, I don't think anyone truly knows what's what's happening there. And frankly, I think that's probably
none of our business. That's between he and his family.
But
I do appreciate how hard it is to go through things at a personal level like he is and have to
do it in the public eye, so to speak. So, you know, there's no easy answer, no easy way.
But, you know,
at the end of the day, the things that truly matter
are your family and are
your personal relationships. So
I hope he's dealing with those in whatever. capacity he needs to.
But what's it like to be in the middle of a media firestorm?
I mean, here, you and Jessica were having marital problems, and it's all over TMZ.
You know, people predicting your divorce before it happens. What does it feel like to be in the middle of that?
Well, probably how you think it feels. It feels not great.
It's not normal. It's not the way life should be, but it's the way life is.
So you have to deal with it.
Unfortunately, no one's going to feel sorry for you. You're in the public eye.
You're a celebrity. And I think the same is true for
him.
He just has to
try not to let that stuff get to him.
And I think that's the only advice you can give to people is, know don't don't be affected or try not to be affected by what people write speculate say you know what truly matters is what is what you know your reality to be as you know in in your own relationship and you have to deal with that you know as an isolated thing should people feel bad for Tiger Woods
feel bad I mean I think people should feel bad for him in the in the sense that he's going through a hard time in his life I don't think there's any one of us that would say we we won't ever go through a difficult time in our in our relationship maybe not to the the degree he is, but
I think it's unfair that
he has to do that and has to do it in the public eye. But at the same time,
life isn't fair, so it is what it is. And
people are not going to feel sorry for him. And so he has to just deal with it the best he can.
I think that's what we all have to do.
When you and Jessica split and she went Romo, did you wear that as some sort of badge or were you outraged by that?
I couldn't have cared less, to be honest with you. You were just done?
Yeah, guys. I was just I mean, what yeah, you know, we've all been through breakups, right? You move on, you move on with life.
I was I've I've been happy in a relationship for three years, so the last thing I'm worried about is is who she's dating. Are we irritating you?
I'm sorry? Are we irritating you? Are we bothering you with the questions? No, they're great questions, guys. Really insightful.
Nick Leach stuff. Nick Lachey with us on 790.
I'm sorry.
We're not trying. We really aren't trying.
We're not trying to bother you. Did uh would you prefer to talk about this the the sing-off?
I thought that's what I was calling in about, but apparently not.
You can talk about the sing-off. It starts Monday night on NBC.
It culminates with a finale on December
21st. You can talk about that if you like.
Cool, yeah, it's a great show. Hopefully, you guys will check it out.
Hopefully, people down in Miami will check it out. Live finale on Monday the 21st.
Actually, great group from Puerto Rico is part of the competition.
Really like a great acapella group, really cool Latin flavor they bring into their music. And and uh, yeah, so America gets to vote.
Between now and now and Monday, the uh the phone lines are open.
You can go to NBC.com and and and vote for your favorite group, and uh we'll find out Monday night who wins the whole thing. Any uh anything else?
Uh the sing-off again, Monday night, sing-off on NBC culminates, like you said. It's a week-long television show, and Nick Lachey is involved in it.
You can check it out at NBC.com.
Anything else you uh you want us to know about that? No, no, I just hope I hope everybody gets a chance to check it out. It's been a great show, a lot of fun.
You're a big sports fan, right?
You like, I've seen you on ESPN. You want to pick some games for us? Yeah, for sure.
All right, go ahead.
Let's play this overproduced awfulness here for him because this is, you know, it's going really well, so this will fix it.
And now it's time for Celebrity Prognosticator.
Let's win some money.
The money's out there. You pick it up, it's yours.
You don't. I got no sympathy for you.
So the way this works, Dugats, is, you know, if he has a winning week, he's going to come back.
And I'm sure, given the way this has gone so far, I'm sure he'd be thrilled to come back next week and pick games.
I think what bothered him is went Romo. That's what I think you did wrong.
That's just not very nice. Well, Dan, and I've said this.
Did he just hang up on us? Because I've said this before. If my wife left me and she ended up, you know, with Shaq or Wade or an NFL quarterback, I would wear that as some sort of badge.
Did somebody else hang up on our show? Is that what just happened? Oh, for the love of God, you have to be bleeping. Kidding me now.
We're beefing with a boy band member.
Really, that's what we're doing now. It's King Kong Bundy, it's the Memphis Grizzlies.
My God, we can't do anything right about here.