Trump raised taxes—and MAGA’s clapping.

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Trump’s tariffs are a tax on American businesses and people—but MAGA thinks they’re winning. We unpack the contradiction.

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Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to the Find Out podcast.

We have made it to episode 30,

but we're a little short today.

We've got,

you've got me, Tim, you've got Zach, and you've got Luke, and our other guys uh are tending to babies and conferences and things like that so you're gonna be getting washed away by a tsunami

yeah right he did text us and he was worried because he's in uh he's at a conference in uh california and

you know the the 8.8 tsunami one of the biggest earthquakes i think in history there's in the very hotel luckily it looks like there was no tsunami waves on the u.s and so he is safe and sound and um i did make a joke that like he'd get some great content though as he was getting washed away if he was, you know, if it came that way.

But I didn't seem too happy about that.

But, anyways, we've got plenty of stuff to talk about with the three of us.

Plus, I'm going to tease this.

We are starting our first segment that will be repeatable every time.

And that will be Luke's get fucked segment.

And we've primed it.

We don't know what it is.

But I don't, yeah, we have no idea what it is.

It's all going to be a beautiful surprise.

A beautiful

beautiful surprise.

And we're going to do it at the end because we want you to listen to us flabber before you get there.

You can't come just for Luke.

That's the deal.

Yeah, yeah, you can't come for the dessert.

You got to eat the meal, too.

So you got to deal with the vegetables here.

It's fine.

So speaking of vegetables,

they're mixed economic.

Thank you.

I like that.

You know what?

Like,

someday we're going to have to do a video of

all of the transitions, all the pivots, and see how ridiculous.

Some of them are less good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's true.

That'll be the funniest part.

That's true.

So So maybe we'll do that.

But anyways, so we got this morning mixed economic news.

The first half of this year, we did see growth.

And so that looks good.

But when you look under the hood, there's a lot of

disturbing trends in that people are not spending as much money.

And the tariffs have not.

been implemented all the way through the supply chains yet.

So we're looking for some bumpy, bumpy

weather ahead, I guess I'll say.

And Donald Trump came in promising lower prices.

Yeah, it ain't happening.

Yeah.

It's not fucking happening.

No, it's just not how it works.

Like, I fucking hate when people talk about that because, like, even if he, even if tariffs work, it's not putting, it's not bringing prices down.

It's just going to give the government more revenue.

It's not how it works.

Like, none of it works that way.

And people think it is.

The only, like, the only thing that stuck out to me this week was Josh Hawley's proposal of like, hey, we should give like 600 bucks to regular people based on tariff revenue.

I'm like, okay, that's not a terrible.

I I mean, I hate him, but it's not a terrible idea.

But barring something like that, it ain't going to do anything for the average person.

Well, the thing is, that's just them getting their money returned.

Oh, yeah, of course, of course.

Of course.

That's the problem.

And they get sold on this idea.

It's like, oh, okay, I get 600 bucks because Trump's tariffs were such a good idea.

And then you sit there and you go, it's your fucking money.

You're getting your money back.

Yeah.

I mean, I think that's true if the tariffs play out the way we think.

Because so far, prices really haven't been adjusted basically because tariffs really haven't been super implemented anyway.

So like, I think that's like for the first time, because I was, you know, super hard on Trump with tariffs for forever.

And for the first time, I kind of sat back and was like, maybe I'm wrong.

I mean, I could, I don't think I am, but like, you know,

Ford, I would wager that you probably didn't feel that way.

Or if you're a guy that works for Ford.

Right.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I, like, I, I want to see how things play when the tariffs are like, okay, the deals are done, like the EU deal is done, the Japan deal is done, when all the deals are done and businesses have like a full calendar year to operate with that increased tax on them, then I want to see the numbers.

Cause in the short term, it's impossible to tell how this actually is playing.

It's just reaction.

Right.

Well, and the thing is that, you know, he telegraphed the tariffs.

So a lot of the economic growth in the first half of this year were businesses basically buying up goods before tariffs.

So like we see, we saw a bit of a spike, which is okay, good in the short term.

But you know, the Trump administration, this is wild to me, yesterday they put out a graphic like promoting the fact that they have made $150 billion off of the tariffs.

And they're calling it revenue.

Yeah.

But it's a tax.

It's a tax.

No, right.

It's a tax.

So when did Republicans

affect the poor?

Right.

Well, it technically is revenue just revenue from people.

Taxes.

Right, right.

Yes.

No, I mean, you're right.

Like, they didn't, they didn't lie for once.

No, it's correct.

It's just like they're not telling you the whole story, which is typical of truth.

It's some 1984 shit.

This is the first time that Americans have ever cheered for the fact that their taxes are going up.

Exactly.

They just don't understand that.

They don't know that that's it.

They don't get it.

Yeah.

Right, right.

I mean,

it's just wild to me that the Republican Party has been the party in favor of raising taxes.

Right.

Like, I mean, that's what they did, right?

Like, you said, Luke, like, if you buy a car or a truck, like there are parts in all of even the domestic ones that aren't made here right and that's going to cost those to go up and you know i've we've gotten notes from folks in our replies about small businesses being like yeah i am like my costs have been going up and i am passing those i'm screwed and i'm passing it along to my customers yeah you have to i mean i i kind of consider it like a transitional tax because at first it's a corporate tax but then it becomes a individual tax like it but it depends on what sector you're in and all that stuff so it really is a transitional tax and somebody is paying for it in the united states like whether it's a business or a person someone is paying that.

Like that revenue is from the pocket of someone who probably wants to keep that money in their pocket.

And then Trump treats it like it's just inevitably going to get like, oh, these big businesses are going to eat the cost.

No, they're fucking not.

That's not how capitalism works.

That's not, that's the point of it is to lose as little money as possible.

They are not going to eat the cost on this.

Correct.

Well, if you're a publicly traded company, you can't.

Yeah.

Because then your shareholders are going to be like, what the hell are you doing?

Right.

And they're going to get rid of you.

So, you know, there has been some, there are some companies that have said that they have been eating them, but that's also not going to last forever.

No, that'll eat you forever.

No.

And I'm sure they were doing it and thinking, well, maybe this is going to go away because this guy like always says he's going to do things.

And then he, you know,

taco.

Yeah.

Trump always caves.

Or Trump.

Chickens out.

Chickens out.

Yeah.

Chickens out.

So let's talk about the Europe ones because this is a really, it's really fascinating to me that, so over the weekend, there was a deal reached with the EU in which there will be 15% tariffs levied on all goods from EU countries coming into the United States.

And Trump hailed this as an amazing deal.

But

I don't understand how it's an amazing deal.

Like we just, all of a sudden, every good that's coming in from Europe is going to have a 15% tax.

There was no tariff before that.

Right.

Well, no, it's, I mean, it's, Trump looks at it from the perspective of revenue generation.

I think that that's his, his number one thing that he's trying to pitch.

And like, yeah, it's going to generate more revenue.

And like the EU did kind of get bullied into a bad deal for them.

Like, that, that's the thing I look at, like, just from a political optics perspective, Trump won that deal.

And that's the thing where he's losing a lot of other places, but he definitely won that one optically, where it's like he threatened them with 30, I believe, and they came back and like, well, we'll do 15.

And then they fucking did it.

It's like, yeah, it's still a bad deal for you.

But they're like, the EU is essentially banking on four years of eating shit in exchange for stability.

That's sort of the deal they make.

Yes.

Yeah.

Because Trump maybe wins optically, but the American people lose every time exactly but trump is also dealing with so many other problems that like this is not a win like i was i was talking to my mom about this last night i'm like

he trump is taking the same path joe biden took at this point which is very weird to say but joe biden had a lot of like wins that people didn't feel and they didn't understand like even though the economy metrics were good like because prices were up didn't feel it so trump is trying to be like hey i'm creating revenue it's like the average person is going to go i don't give a shit dude make eggs cheaper, make shit cheaper.

And it's not going to see a video like that at least once a week of some Splitk maggot that's like, that's just losing his mind that something is expensive at the grocery store.

This is what you get.

You get what you fucking voted for.

Like, he was never going to help you.

No.

Well, and it's, it's two-pronged on the groceries, right?

Because one, tariffs of goods coming in from the U.S., but also two, all of the ICE raids are taking people out of these jobs,

which they were doing for very low wages because Americans didn't want to do them.

I mean, we've even seen in Florida where they want to lower the age in which you are allowed to work

because they have kicked out so many undocumented immigrants.

They don't have anybody to actually pick the fruits and vegetables and put them in the boxes and put them on the trucks and like do all the stuff.

Because if they hire U.S.

adults, they're going to have to pay way more.

And that's why the minimum wages are raised.

Yes.

Imagine that.

Right.

Like, I mean, it's just.

It's crazy.

And then we're, it's funny also because when we're kicking these folks out, I think I saw a stat the other day that said that they are that undocumented immigrants contribute something like $100 billion in tax revenue.

Revenue.

Here we go again.

Revenue again.

So like if you get $150 billion from that, but you've lost, you know, the tax revenue from the

undocumented immigrants, then you're only up 50 billion.

And then when you've put in the $4 trillion they cut, that's the huge thing.

This is

nothing ever matched.

No, it's $400 billion a year for 10 years.

I mean, if you just average it out, like you're losing there.

I mean, even if you look at it from, it's half the year.

So it's still a net loss of 100 billion.

If it's 150 billion in revenue generation in six months, that's 300 billion a year, still down 100 billion based on that.

So

it's also a $2 trillion.

We have a $2 trillion budget problem.

And

so we need to do a lot more cutting and a lot more revenue generation if we're going to balance that out.

Actually, I think it was, wasn't it?

Didn't it go 4, 2, 1?

Yeah, it might get $421.

Yeah.

$4 trillion.

Imagine, like, the funny thing is, is if the federal government's budget is like four trillion or something like that, isn't it?

$6.7 trillion.

So

how the hell are you going to cut $4 trillion from that?

You can't.

I mean, even

possible.

You actually can't because some of it is like, a lot of it is just congressionally protected.

You can't get rid of it without Congress changing it.

That people should have known before they voted.

Yes.

Well, I mean, that's an interesting thing because I did a video on this the other day of like Trump's numbers suck ass right now his approval numbers suck but it stayed completely firm with republicans and democrats i think he lost two percent support republicans and four percent support from democrats he's lost 17 from independents because those swing voters that swung to trump are going or looking around like what the fuck is all this shit i didn't want this because they didn't pay attention those idiots in the middle that didn't pay attention are just realizing now they got fucking conned and that's where his numbers are plummeting I mean, that's the thing, right?

That's, it's, they didn't pay attention.

Yeah.

I mean, there are a lot of video.

Like, how many videos have we seen from regular people that are like, this isn't what I voted for?

And you just want to like smash your head against the table,

fucking wall.

This is exactly what you voted for.

Right.

Like those guys on the, what is it, Andrew Schultz?

We've talked about him before, but like they keep saying, like,

I didn't, and they get millions of viewers.

And they are like, I didn't vote for this.

And like, he literally said he was going to do it.

So what do you mean by that?

Yeah.

And I think it's just that like they like the culture stuff and they they didn't.

They were angry and they want to penalize somebody for inflation.

And so that's how Donald Trump won.

But now they're paying attention because it's hitting their pocketbook.

It's like, oh, okay.

So, like, we, the country just paid $150 billion in

new taxes in the first six months, which means they didn't spend that money on other things.

And then, you know,

they're like, don't kick out all of the undocumented.

I thought you were just going to be able to do that.

We are farm workers.

We need the farm workers.

Right.

But then they're like at the RNC last year holding up signs that say mass deportation now.

So like

it was very clear yeah

you can go listen to those rallies there's not a single thing that he's doing right now that you you didn't cheer for

like

it's just not this just the case there's not there's nothing that he's doing right now that's a surprise they didn't pay close attention i mean that's the thing about in general republicans i think is they don't pay super close attention to a lot of details but in particular people who are swing voters tend to be much more emotional voters and they kind of react to whatever they're feeling in the moment.

And they were feeling pissed off about the status quo and Trump represented a shift from it.

I mean, that was the bottom line.

And like, they didn't pay attention to all the details of what he was pitching.

But Trump is just doing what he said he was going to do.

Like, Trump is actually, if anybody wants to give him credit for one thing, he's delivering on his promises.

I don't like any of the promises because they're all dog shit, but he's doing what he can to deliver them, except for like, you know, ending wars and shit.

But like things that are in his direct control, he's doing all the shit he said he was going to do.

And lowering prices too.

Yeah.

So there's a couple.

But the other thing is that people need to understand with independence too is that like independents are not truly independent I mean, there's some, but they do tend to lean right.

So like there isn't there is an advantage with the majority of not all of them, but the

no, but I mean, the block is generally more right-leaning than left-leaning.

A little bit.

It is a little bit.

But I think that the thing with independence is they tend to lean anti-establishment.

That tends to be a bigger lean.

So it's like whoever is in control, if they're not doing well, independence will kill them off.

That's sort of, and that's exactly what happened.

Yeah.

But, you know, I think the other piece that we talk about a lot, too, is like they also, there's a built-in advantage in that, like, a lot of people are just listening to the Andrew Schultz's and the Ben Shapiros of the world.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Those guys who interviewed me.

Nanyahu and talked about how he likes Burger King more than McDonald's.

I agree with that.

What a fucking wild take right there.

That's some bullshit right there.

Burger King deserves so much better than McDonald's.

And let me guess.

And let me guess.

They didn't push him very much on what's going on in Gaza, right?

Not at all.

Not at all.

I don't even think the word Palestine was uttered.

Of course not.

Of course, it's not the point.

Yeah.

Well, it's kind of crazy.

And it's the same thing with, like, have you seen all this shit with Theo Vaughan?

Yeah, what's going on with that?

Well, so he's been, he had,

I think he had Trump on at one point before the election.

He did.

He did.

And he's had Vance on like three times now after the election.

But so

his stance on the Israel-Gaza thing is apparently pro-Gaza, but he never asked them.

And then

when they're not on the show, he's staunchly pro-Gaza.

In the comments, he's like, why are they starving these people?

And then as they're on the show, nothing but just straight up fucking ass kissing.

Yes, that's true.

I mean, it's like despicable.

I'm sure that there's a lot of like pre-production conversations like, we're not going to talk about this.

We're not going to talk about that.

Yeah.

Well, they want them to come back.

Yeah.

That's why.

It's for ratings.

It's not a gotcha.

Don't pretend that you're some kind of fucking staunch defender of these folks that are starving when you can't even fucking pull up the stones to talk to the people that are in control of this shit.

Right.

Well, and this is part of the problem of that right-wing echo chamber, right?

Is that like we are seeing all this stuff, but when the when the metal hits the road, like these guys don't challenge

their leaders.

Like

pretending he's against Trump about this Epstein thing.

You don't give a fuck, Rogan.

Yeah, he doesn't.

I mean, it's even like you see the, you ever see those like slideshows on TikTok now of people's like their tweet from before Trump got elected about Epstein and then the tweets now just defending him all the time.

Is that all this talk about is Aalia Banks?

Yes.

That shit was 14 year olds.

I mean, back then.

Back then it was fine.

Maybe it was a 13 year old.

Then we got problems.

Luke, tell Luke, tell people what that's about.

So she, somebody released a tweet of hers from like five years ago.

Also tell people who she is.

I have no clue who she is, actually.

Isn't she a rapper?

Is she a rapper?

She's a rapper, isn't she?

All I know is that.

I don't know what her profession is, but she's an asshole.

Which fucking UFC fighter was it?

Toner McGregor.

She leaked his dick pic.

Oh, sweet.

She's a rapper, singer, and songwriter.

He had a weight tied to his dick.

What?

That's neither here nor there.

Okay, but go on.

What did she do to piss everybody off?

I want to know what do you mean who a weight tied to his dick?

She had a tweet that got released that was like four or five years ago where she's talking about how, you know, pedophiles and child sex abusers are the worst of the worst.

And she comes back now

and she's talking about how in the 90s, sex with 14-year-olds wasn't, it wasn't really taboo yet.

So it's hard to hold that against Trump if that's what happened.

Because when she was in, when it was in the 90s, that was okay.

But if it was like somebody under 13, then it would be a problem.

Which is just a fucking wild thing to say.

Well, first of all,

well, you're looking at that.

As somebody who graduated high school in 1997, so has a very clear memory of the 90s, it was not okay to have sex with an underage person in the 90s.

Like, it just, I'm sorry, guys.

It wasn't.

Like, Azalea Banks, who's roughly my age, I think, maybe a little bit younger.

Like, no.

Like, but she has been an Ardent Trump supporter and, like, not, she's not the.

I don't think you should probably follow her for political takes.

Yeah.

Probably not.

Yeah.

I would probably go further to say that I don't think you should probably follow her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like there we go.

Yeah.

It's okay.

In Donald Trump's defense, fucking 14-year-old girls is really only made a social taboo in the 90s.

That's exactly what that word for word is.

Word for word.

Yep.

That's insane.

And as somebody who remembers the eight, if we want to go, okay, let's go back another decade.

It still wasn't okay.

Yeah.

No, it was never okay, dude.

That's crazy.

I remember like when I was a kid and I was dating girls before I was 18, even in my own head, I'm like, is it okay for me to have sex with my girlfriend, even though we're underage?

Like, I'm questioning as an underage person myself.

Imagine a 50-year-old man.

It's taboo, dude.

Like, holy shit.

I can't understand how people aren't losing their fucking mind about this.

Epstein stole a 14-year-old employee from me thing.

Like, how can you not be fucking freaking out about that?

Talk about.

So, so, this is another one that came out yesterday that they were interviewing.

It was an audio clip of Trump off him, off

Air Force One, right?

Yeah, and he was like lamenting lamenting the fact that uh Jeffrey Epstein, quote unquote, stole underage spa workers at Mar-a-Lago, I guess, for Epstein's island.

I don't know where he was breaking that.

That was the breaking point, was that he was so upset about that?

Yeah, because he was like, Well, I told him no more of this.

Yeah, it's not the sexual assault, it's the stealing of plots.

Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't the like, you know, potential pedophilia.

It was the like, how dare you take one of my workers?

Right.

And he's like, I told him once not to do it.

And he's like, Okay, I won't do it again.

And then he did it again.

And I was like, Nope.

And I'm like, we're done, but he also said he didn't have the privilege of going to the island, which is a very, very odd choice of words.

Odd choice of words, 100%.

The guy has like for somebody who claims that he doesn't know Jeffrey Epstein, he seems to know a lot about all of the stuff around him, like the island and the workers, and like that's nuts, all of this, all of this stuff.

You know, it's just like the idea that he doesn't know him is fucking crazy.

I mean, like, these dudes are documented together for a solo fucking wedding.

Yes, yeah, at Jeffrey Epstein, there's a photo of Jeffrey Epstein at the Marla Maples wedding, which which I think was in 93 or 30.

They were buddies for a long ass time.

Best friends.

They were best friends.

They've even said it.

Like, there are quotes.

You can go look it up.

And now we see

this whole crazy thing with how long did

Trump's personal lawyer talk to Ghelaine Maxwell?

Nine hours.

Yeah, like forever.

That's a whole bunch of shit right there.

What were they talking about for nine hours is what I want to know.

Here's the names you get to say.

Here's the names you don't get to say.

If you do this, you get a pardon.

That's it's crazy.

Like, I mean,

I can't imagine a world where Trump pardons or commutes or sentence or whatever, and she comes out and says, Well, it's this, but Trump was never, and anybody buys it.

Who the fuck is except for like hardcore MAGAs?

Nobody would buy it.

It's like, even she made a MAGA.

They're so deep, they're so deep in the conspiracy stuff, man.

No one buys that.

No, it's so fucking good.

I mean, even

human trash monster Tucker Carlson has going after him about this.

The craziest cope I've seen is that Trump was the whistleblower, and that's why his name's in the fire.

Yes, I love that one.

Can you imagine that?

The thing that kills me is like, there's all of these stories that were made up.

They're all fake about Trump doing good things because they had to, like for other people, because they had to make up things.

to say about him that are good.

Like I've seen on my Facebook, it's like Donald Trump like pulled over to the side of a lip, like his limo to the side of the road and helped this person.

Then you go on snopes.

It's like, dope, that's not real that's not real ever happened you know imagine donald trump being like whoa guys too much crime here i'm going to blow the whistle

the old the only way right yeah

we are so yeah the hands like the hands we gotta have the hands t-rex

the only way he would be a whistleblower is if he was getting some sort of competitive advantage on the other side right like that's the this guy has this is the thing again that like continues to kill me he has never done a single thing for anyone else.

No, that's all, and that's circling back to the economics thing.

That's the way it is, even just on the tariffs, right?

He's giving massive tax breaks to the billionaires in order to bring in revenue with a disproportionately affecting tax increase to people that don't make money.

Yes, it's true.

It's entirely regressive.

Entirely regressive.

He doesn't, like, no billionaire is going to feel it that a fucking, you know, F-150 costs 15% more.

But I promise you that the fucking dumbass that wants to drive it to the job site will.

Yeah, that's for sure i have a question for you guys actually i was thinking i was thinking about this the other day when trump talks and like does speeches or like does any kind of introvert do you guys watch like the whole thing can you watch trump in its i can't do it no i can't do it i couldn't either and recently i was like i need to i need to watch the whole thing so i like started watching trump the whole time and like watch it like he went on uh what the fuck's the name the golfer bryson de chambeau's uh youtube show where he like did like an hour of episode of trump and i'm like i'm gonna watch this thing because i want to see what people who like trump see in this guy.

And I'm watching.

It's interesting.

Like, so for the first 10 minutes of that, watching the YouTube show, I was like, okay, Trump's like a person in this because it's not political at all.

It's 100% just like playing golf and talking.

And I'm like, it's just weird at first, like a shock to see him being a human.

But by the end of it, you're like, oh, he's just, he's also just like a huge piece of shit person.

And it's like, I don't.

He's a bad person.

He's a bad person.

He's a bad person.

Right.

But it's weird, like, watch because like we sort of like, I think the three of us would fall into this camp if like we watched watched the little clips of him we sort of like dehumanize him a little bit because he is a subhuman person but then you watch him be a human and you're like this is weird dude like i don't live in this world but then even then i can't tune it to where i'm like oh i like trump like he's an unlikable person it's very bizarre garbage human being he cheats at golf He does cheat at golf.

He was surprisingly good at golf, though.

I'll give him that.

He's not a bad golfer.

He was his one fucking job as a billionaire.

You're supposed to be good at golf.

You own fucking like a shitload of golf courses.

I think it's your one job to be good at golf but his swing is painful to watch like he looks like he's like having an aneurysm as he shoots geriatric well it's an old man it's an old man if you go to i mean who knows that you know you go watch old guys play golf right we're talking 80 and 90 year old guys which good for them for still getting out there but like most of them you're not seeing like a beautiful swing because frankly they can't and you know i think you see that with him his it's kind of like to the side like he kind of like yeah he kind of you know supposed to come up you kind of come back yeah but he hits it he does hit it straight he hits straight I mean, he plays it up.

But he also cheats.

He does cheat.

All the time.

There's a video.

So if you didn't see this, there was a video, I think now this put it out this week of him cheating and like people finding the ball for him or do whatever.

And like

Caddy dropped it for him.

His caddy dropped it.

If he's pretending to look for it, he like poops it out.

It'll be the caddy.

It's the caddy's fault.

Trump didn't want him to cheat.

But then Trump walks directly up to it.

And we know, and we know that being Trump's caddy is potentially a golden ticket because his old caddy, Dan Scavino, is like now all in mega world.

Like he was actually his, he was the guy pushing send on most of those tweets.

It's the one Trump person that ever came after me when I was in the governor's office.

Yeah, because he was bragging about impressions on social.

He's like, most impression.

And I quote tweeted.

This is at the beginning of the ministry.

I go, tell me you don't know anything about social media without telling me because like when you reference impressions as a metric of growth or like who sees it, it's such bullshit because impression just means the amount of people who could potentially see it, right?

And there's about 10% of those will actually, so I was mocking him.

And then he was like, Oh, look at this Cuomo, pada.

I was like, Of course, of course, instead of instead of actually addressing the thing, because he knew he was wrong because he's an idiot, but anyways, well, that's Trump surrounded by idiots.

But yeah, I mean, he's he does.

I mean, even watching this golf thing, he relies heavily on that caddies.

They always ask him, What do you think about it?

He's like, Really, like, you know, you could tell he's got a relationship with this guy and brings him everywhere he fucking goes, you know?

Can you imagine the smell?

Oh, man, I would need a serious salary to beat Trump's caddy.

Oh, dude.

Well, the thing is, near him with a golf club in my hand.

Nah, I don't think that's a good idea.

Yeah.

Well, the funny thing is, it's like, you know, I think that would be like the worst job ever because if you screw up, you're probably going to end up in a pit next to his ex-wife right down this, right down off the course where he buried her.

Yeah, yes.

Which

is a crazy thing to do.

How, like, let's, let's.

I'm not a big sorry for that, right?

Well, so she, she, she, you know, Ivanka dies, yeah, falling down the stairs, which is kind of a weird thing, but okay.

And then there's like quickly buried at the Trump golf course at Bedminster, I think in New Jersey.

And there's just no headstone, no headstone.

It's like just a flat, I think there's the flat stone one that's like sits with you look down.

It's not like she was just like underneath the 15,

yeah, not just a pit in the back 40.

No, they just, but they just like buried her off to the side.

And I'm like, so weird.

Again, like, it's so weird.

It's like, who does that?

Also, why did you, like, you're not even married to her?

I mean, I guess it's the mother of your children, but like, well, some of them, some of them, but,

you know, but it's just like, what world.

But going back to the Trump people, I think with those like speeches and stuff, like, they don't even defend it, right?

Cause they just say, oh, I don't, he just, you know, he just says what he means and like, whatever.

But like, I've tried to watch.

those rats, especially the rallies.

Yeah.

It is so goddamn painful to watch because it is, it's not that, yes, there's so much reprehensible shit in there.

He's also just bad at it.

He's terrible.

He's just bad.

He's a bad speaker.

He's really bad.

I think it's interesting if you watch him speak in the morning.

This is the one thing I have watched.

If you watch him speak in the morning versus watch him speak, say, five o'clock in the evening or later than that, there is a huge difference.

Gigantic difference.

There's no question about it.

He does not look good in the evening.

No.

I mean, the dude's how old is he?

79?

He's almost 80.

79.

It's like, holy shit, dude.

I mean,

nobody's not unhealthy person.

Right.

Like, powered by McDonald's and

sneaking vegetables into your diet so that you don't peel over in the middle of your turn

is really not very good.

They give him those, like, give him those chicken nuggets that they give to kids because there's like a little bit of vegetables in them exactly.

That's what they have.

Oh, God.

It's so shameful.

It really is.

Put it next to his well-done steak with ketchup.

Is that what he eats?

Oh, yeah.

Well-done steak with ketchup.

Yeah, he's terrified of being poisoned.

Really?

Yep.

Oh, he's got

it.

Terrified of it.

He is like a hype.

He's a hypochondriac and very afraid of weird stuff.

Like, people don't know that about him.

Like, he thinks wind turbines give you cancer and shit.

He's a big fucking nuts.

Well, but you know why he doesn't like wind turbines.

Well, I mean, that's a whole different thing.

Well, it's because, well, it's because there were some wind farms that were in development in Scotland near his golf course.

And then he's like, I hate all wind now.

Wind's bad.

And he's like,

he did say the cancer thing.

No, he's like severe.

He is a very big hyper guy.

He hates it.

Like when COVID happened, he pretended like it didn't scare him, but it freaked the shit out of him.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

But the thing on the golf, on the turbines, I just want to ask him, do you not, will you not stand in front of a fan?

Because essentially a wind turbine is a giant

fan that produces electricity from the turning of the...

the it's not there's nothing else in by the way last i checked a fan has electricity going into it so all the differences going out out of it like that's the cancer part because it's going south like it's just i don't know

it's really silly thing it really is yeah you believe so eat that up yeah yeah people like it and there's to be honest like not that we're going to go into a whole nimby thing about wind farms but like there is there like that's a bipartisan thing where like a lot of people democrats too so we got to throw them in or like get super mad when you like talk about a wind farm near them like the the offshore one on the cape why yeah because it ruins their view oh i like the way they look i think they're i do too i think it's super i'd rather look at fucking wind turbines than certain than a solar farm yes there's like four there's like four

yeah there's like four uh solar farms around my parents hometown and that shit is ugly it is just miles and miles of solar farms yeah it's i mean i'm glad they're there but it is yeah i i make no mistake.

I'm happy they're there.

And also, so the

Long Island, not Long Island, excuse me, the

Cape Cod one is a thing called Cape Wind, which they eventually abandoned because the people mostly

vineyard and the rich people

threw a fit about it.

And it's like 40 miles out.

It's like on a sunny day with no haze.

Yeah.

You can like see them way off in the distance.

And I'm like, those folks are nuts, though.

I grew up with a, my family had a house in Cape Cod, and my dad has a house in Cape Cod.

And like, those people are the worst.

Okay, so speaking of, speaking of rich people,

do you buy that this guy in Manhattan was targeting the NFL, got on the wrong elevator, and that's why that this billionaire?

I haven't heard that theory.

That's what I've seen pushed, right?

So no one knows anything about this guy.

So this is the, this is, for those who don't know, this is the...

mass shooting that happened in basically Times Square, right?

Yesterday.

It was real close.

Very, very close, very close.

Not yesterday, but on Monday, I believe.

And

five people were shot.

Four were killed.

There was one police officer that was killed.

And then there was like a senior VP from Blackstone

shot and killed.

And there were two others.

And this guy literally walked into the building with, it looks like an AR-50.

Yeah, just like walking with a regular guy.

He travels thousands of miles with.

Right, from Vegas.

Like, did he drive?

He must have drove, right?

He's probably drove.

Pretty sure he did.

Not going to get in a plane with an A.

TSA is going to be like,

I don't think so.

Maybe not that.

So, so what is the question, Luke, as far as you mean?

So there's people that claim that he was there because he was mad at the NFL and somewhere in the building were NFL people and he got in the wrong elevator and shot the wrong people.

Whereas a lot of other people, the more conspiracy-minded folks on the left, think this is another Luigi kind of deal.

No.

So I, you guys know, but those who don't know, I worked for Every Town for Gun Safety for, which is the gun safety group that Mike Bloomberg started.

I did that for almost two years.

So I, and I did it during what they called it the summer of hell, where there was a string of mass shootings.

The one in Charleston where the white supremacists shot the churchgoers, the woman, Allison Parker, who got shot live on TV.

Like there's all this awful shit, awful, awful, awful stuff.

And generally speaking, mass shooters are not critical thinkers.

Right.

For one.

Most of them have mental illness.

100%.

And so I do buy the thought that like Heath got on the fucking elevator and then he was like, I'm here to do it.

I just think it was chaos.

What does he have against the NFL?

i don't understand oh

this stuff it was was he like a football player this guy no but he um so there's not a lot of info on this but apparently like people were saying he was like had been talking a lot about this cte documentary or something like that and so that they the thought was maybe that he was going there to punish them for not addressing which they really i mean some things like they're gonna whack their heads together you know yeah um but well they also kind of like for a long time pretended like it was yeah yeah yeah but there's i mean it's still the network but anyway there's tons of studies that show

there is no, there is no mass shooting level like thing, like justification, but like there are reasons to critique the NFL for their response to CCF.

But that's all I mean.

But like what's what's fascinating about this

shooting is that all the people that know him were like, he was like a class clown.

And I guess recently like he had gone down rabbit holes.

So probably that's he probably had some sort of break.

And that's what happened because he ended up, you know, he also shot himself, right?

Which I would have preferred to do that before, but you know,

but it's awful.

And I think it just, again, points to the fact that it's too goddamn easy in this country to get a weapon of war.

And AR 50.

Don't worry.

Don't worry.

We're going to have drones in school that stop school shootings.

I saw, did you see that?

Did somebody propose that?

No, they're putting them in Texas.

They're putting them in Texas.

And Ron Santos wants them in Florida.

What are they going to do?

They are a drone that is remotely piloted from a company called

Campus Guardian.

Oh, Campus Guardian Angel.

They are armed with pepper balls and

tasers, and they can fly into people at 100 miles an hour.

And it's about the speed of, it has about the kinetic energy of getting hit with a bowling ball.

Damn.

But so their idea.

Their idea is that within five seconds of there being a report of a shooter, somebody can be in the controls of this drone flying it through the school to combat this school shooter.

I mean, I don't think it's like the solution, but I think it's an interesting idea.

Like, it's certainly not like, hey, let's replace getting rid of guns with this drone idea.

Yeah, but who controls it?

Who controls it, though?

The people that work for this company.

Yeah, the company.

They're trained to fly them from range.

There's some kind of, apparently, you better have fast internet or else you're fucked.

All right.

So let's game this out.

So many problems.

So many problems.

Now, the more at first I was like, huh.

huh and now i'm thinking about it so

how does the drone like is the drone like kept under lock and key because if it has like it looks like a locker i saw a video of it it looks like a locker and it has a door that is propelled open when it when it needs to be released oh okay that's interesting

I mean, I don't hate, I like, I don't hate the idea as like a preventative measure within a school, but it's not a gun solution.

Or to try to get a sense of where heat they are.

Right.

Yeah, it's like positioning the shooter that i'm fine with all that but again like my problem with that is that it's just yet again another quote-unquote solution that stays away from the actual solutions which is let's have some gun laws that are actually enforceable right because well and people still to this day they don't believe it more there is more gun crime in red states than blue states it just happens that like you get concentrated in cities and so and then that's a lot of people blue state gun crime is with guns that came from red states Well, 100%.

That gun, I don't know where he bought it, but Nevada,

Nevada has okay.

Well, actually, they passed background checks, but I can't remember if it was actually implemented.

But, like, you would drive through 30 states that have looser gun laws.

So, like, it doesn't matter.

I could go buy a fucking AR right now and be back in 20 minutes.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Me too.

And there's no

there, but yes, me too.

Yeah.

And your state is one of the ones without really a background check, not a background check system with teeth.

Because what people don't know is that in 30, roughly 30 states, you can buy a gun without a background check.

Because all you got to do is go online, find somebody who's selling a gun, and then you meet up with them in the parking lot.

You exchange.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But well, there was a huge issue with Facebook Marketplace.

There's a site.

I'm not going to say it online because I don't want anyone to go to it, but like there is a site specifically for selling guns.

Yes.

And still people that sell them on Marketplace, they just have to be more creative with it.

Right.

Right.

I know it's all the time.

Yeah.

It's an an it's an ongoing problem um and because

private sales in 30 states or 29 or whatever it is don't have comprehensive background checks which means

that's how firearm like gun uh not rallies uh conventions work right

yeah the gun show loophole yeah yeah yeah in those states once again like you can go in and you can like talk to somebody and actually every town did some under undercover investigations that just showed how easy it was to do it and they're like oh i don't have I don't have a license or blah, blah, blah.

And then all of a sudden, they just like walk out to the parking lot and they're like, here you go.

Here's the cash.

Untraceable.

Yep.

No.

Untraceable.

It's a terrible gun system.

There's definitely no problems with the gun system.

But my bigger problem with it is that this company only fucking makes money if school shootings still happen.

That's the good point.

Like, well, I guess it's exactly

it.

Yeah.

I mean, I think maybe if I maybe that's not true, because if a school doesn't have school shootings or whatever and the thing was there as a deterrent, maybe they could use that as a marketing tag.

Like, look at all we have.

We're in 50 schools and all of them were safe.

So, here, buy our system.

You know, I guarantee you that that thing will not.

The problem with ALC is the same thing.

They only make money on the idea of school shootings.

Yes, that school shootings just didn't happen.

They wouldn't need to be fucking drones in schools.

Well, and I assume there is a cost to buy the equipment, and then there is a subscription cost.

Subscription, yeah, 100%.

Right?

So, like, it's like a never-ending fun of it.

But these schools don't have like a ton of money in their budget.

They don't have any money.

And then, and then, like, what are you cutting to pay for that?

Right.

And it's so it's history class.

Yes.

Yeah, right, right.

But like, this is, again,

all of the Republican solutions to gun violence do not stop gun violence.

Well, it's always more guns or more weapons.

Teachers with guns.

Teachers with guns.

That is this, by the way, the stupidest fucking idea I've ever heard.

I've said it a million times.

My mom was a first-grade teacher for 35 years.

You tell me putting a nine millimeter in her drawer was going to keep her safe with a bunch of six-year-olds running around.

Like, I guarantee you.

You ever heard?

I've been Jeffrey's bid on gun control.

yeah

he's talking about how everybody's got that substitute teacher that every time he came in you made her cry and she's like you think giving her a gun's a good idea

i promise you if every teacher in america public schools let's just do public schools if every teacher had a gun in their classroom i guarantee you more kids would be killed in school

100 and it wouldn't and it wouldn't even be close you know like the accident rate would go up with it tremendously too like school shootings accidental deaths it would all be insane oh the the accidental, that would be the most, like, look, drawers are going to get left unlocked.

Kids are always poking around.

They're nosy as shit.

And, you know, it's just a recipe for disaster.

Or it's horrible.

Like, what happens if, like, you write, like a teacher or a sub snaps the door breaks?

Like, there's all kinds of, I mean, yeah.

But like, I'm also trying.

You're like 80% more likely to use it on yourself than ever use it in self-defense.

100%.

The biggest myth that the gun lobby has perpetrated on the American public is that having a gun in your house makes you more safe.

There are circumstances and certain people who are targeted, I understand that.

But if you have a gun in the home, you are far more likely to shoot yourself or a family member or a friend than a criminal.

Like, first of all, home invasions with people at home is not like

a very big house.

How many fucking enemies do you have?

Yeah, we're not all Chris, you know.

It's

fucking John Wick.

No one is breaking into my house.

Right.

And if

they are,

they want my TV.

Right.

And they're spooked the second that they hear.

So I own a shotgun and I bought it for, you know, just to defend the house.

And the guy I bought it from was like, look, if you, all you got to do, like, you'll never shoot this gun, even if you have 100 babies.

They'll run for their fucking life.

100%.

100%.

The shotgun racking is the scariest noise on the face of the planet.

It's a cool fucking sound.

Whenever I move that gun around, I'm like, this is fun.

But it's like, I don't.

Then I just put it away and pretend I know it's not.

Only put it in the safe.

Exactly.

So my grandmother in the 1980s, maybe early 90s, well, she was an antique dealer, like on the side.

It wasn't like a big business.

So everybody in my town knew that she had stuff in the house.

And their back of their house was butted up against woods.

So they actually got broken into twice.

And one of the times they booked it because they heard my grandmother's car.

There you go.

That's all it took.

Yeah, that's like

they don't want to get caught.

Yeah.

No one's in there for like to murder you over the over a fucking $500 TV.

And even though there was this,

Zach, you may remember this guy, Sean Taylor, who was a safety for the Redskins, get shot.

And

that was one instance.

And they got scared.

They shot him in the leg and he bled out.

But that's the, and that was in like 2000.

That was like 15 years ago.

Yeah.

And that's the only one that I could.

It's very rare.

So like putting a gun in your home, you are just making it easy for children to grab a hold.

I mean, the stories every year, this was one of the worst parts of Everytown was like hearing those stories with the accidentals.

But then the other thing is like police don't then arrest the parents for like, man, they've started to do it.

There's a little bit like more of a push to do it now

because of the situation in Michigan.

I think it was Michigan where there was a school shooting and they prosecuted the parents because they basically like ignored all the signs.

And they bought the gun.

And they already knew they had already had problems.

Yeah.

But like, that was one of the things that every town used to do was like working to like, no, like it is a sad, tragic situation, but like they have to be held accountable because you have to send the message to everybody else that like you can't just have a gun laying around.

Fucking sane.

Yeah, it's absolutely insane.

i don't know i i i'm i support the second amendment but i think that we need to have like really restrictive measures in order the idea that you can't amend an amendment is the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard in my life yeah it's don't forget that anthony and scalia the like you know god of the right um from the supreme court even said that it could that guns could be regulated while protecting the second amendment

and and what people do not understand is this thing about the background check stuff they're like everyone because the right will say every every state has background checks and That is true, but then there's a but and it's the private sales and it's the and it's the

gun shows.

And guess what?

Criminals know that shit.

Yeah, they love it.

They love it.

And so like, of course.

But

most of the guns in Canada are from the U.S.

too, right?

Right.

That's the other funny thing.

Like they, well, they have crazy gun laws and they have a lot of guns, but they're heavily regulated.

They did ban assault weapons.

But like to have a shotgun, because everyone's like, well, Canada's got a lot of guns.

I'm like, okay, so you are in favor of licensing and registration then because they have that and training, right?

That's the critical part.

Yeah, well, like, it's the same thing in Israel, right?

Everyone in Israel has a gun, but like they also served in the military for two years, so they know what the fuck they're doing.

The crazy thing is, like, so when I turned 18, I was like, Okay, I want to do all it, like, I want to have my license and shit.

And then, when I turned 21, I was like, I'm definitely gonna, I'm gonna do my concealed carry

force.

Easiest fucking thing I've ever done in my life.

If you can't do that, like, if that's if that's your idea of a restrictive measure, is okay, you have to take a gun apart, you have to shoot a target from like 12 feet away,

you have to load a magazine and you have to fucking pass a written test about safety shit, you are a fucking window licker because that is ridiculous.

No, it's so anybody get past that.

This is the thing.

Like, why would you, and all Republicans, except maybe one or two in the Senate, would say, no, I don't want comprehensive universe.

It's universal background checks, meaning like a background check on every gun sale.

But there's also other pieces.

Like in Charleston, for example, the guy, that white supremacist was a prohibited purchaser.

But because there is a loophole, which is now called the Charleston loophole,

if the background check is not completed, even if you're flagged, if it's not completed within 72 hours, the gun sale goes through.

And that's what happened with that guy

with Dylan Roof.

He had a drug possession charge.

And so he was not allowed to have the gun.

But because there was a mistake in the transferring of documents and who was supposed to do it,

So he was a yellow flag.

That's what they call a yellow flag because it's like, we're not sure it needs further investigating.

And then after 72 hours, they hadn't done it.

So then

I just handed him the gun.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

That is true.

Also, the background check system, the NICS, it's called the NICS because it's, I can't remember what NICS system

is voluntary.

So the federal system, a lot of times, states, red states, almost always, delay

updating the list.

So there could also be prohibitions.

There should be on the list that aren't, that aren't, yeah.

You know, domestic abusers, drug dealers, like all of these things.

And if it's not updated in time, then the background check looks like it's clean.

Right.

So there's all these holes in the system, too.

And there's nothing regulating internet sales because the background check system was passed in 1994, I believe, or 93, the Brady Bill.

So like the internet was barely in existence.

There's all these things.

This is also a thing that it kills me that Democrats don't talk about it because it's like so obvious.

Yeah.

It takes a little to describe it, but the background check system part is like, no, if you live in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, go online.

You can go online and buy a gun.

Oh, yeah.

And then the notion that...

Sorry, you've gotten to my wheelhouse now.

The notion that

this is the kind of thing that I like to learn about.

And also the notion that gun laws don't stop gun crime has been proven false over and over and over again.

Oh, yeah.

Because you, frankly, like, if you make it a little difficult, a lot of these shootings happen at the split of a second.

So if you are able to stop that person from thinking like that one moment, like you're going to save a lot of lives.

And one of the other pieces is that

suicides are the greatest gun deaths every year.

100%.

Also,

it's been proven that most, not all, but most people who commit suicide try once.

So if you take the gun out of the equation, all of the other ways to kill yourself are far less

quote unquote successful.

Yeah.

The gun is almost entirely 100%.

So if you stop them and then it's like a cry for help, they generally get the help afterwards.

So that's another reason.

It's mostly menu.

It's the craziest fucking pivot because I made a video.

I saw that shit about that fucking drone thing on Friday.

So I made a video about it.

And my, in particular, Instagram comics were full of right-wing chuds that were telling me about how, oh, well, it's a mental health problem or it's a, it's a, you know, it's an understanding problem or people just don't understand how guns work.

So we need to be educating them more.

Right.

All of those things are things that have been proposed and you motherfuckers oppose them with every cell in your fucking one testicle because, you know, if you don't, if you don't have a gun, then the testicles are gone apparently too.

It's fucking absurd.

Yeah, it's nuts.

It's the way they look at it.

The one that drives me crazy is you don't even know what AR stands for.

And it's like, first of all, I do.

Armament light.

Armament.

Well, maybe I don't.

Armalite.

Armalite is AR.

But second of all, what the fuck does it matter?

I don't need to know what the name of the gun is to know that when you take that gun out of the equation, gun violence goes down.

We had an assault weapons ban for 10 years in this country until George Bush, George W.

Bush let it lapse.

And you can see, like literally, the chart of mass shootings, which wasn't high in the 90s, but like starts to go down and then it's down for the 10 years.

And guess what happens in 2004 rockets back up right back up because that gun the ar-15 and those types of weapons they like they destroy what's ever in front of it because they're you know they're not hunting what they're made for nobody nobody uses them for for for hunting because it literally destroys them

the animal the thing you're trying so like that

it's just so obvious it's the data is there i don't need to know what the hell the difference is between an ar-15 and an ak-47 I don't need to know.

And to be able to say, hmm, wow, well, look at this chart that's literally a fucking you because of like it was down when Bill Clinton and Democrats and Joe Biden in particular helped pass that assault weapons ban.

And then George W.

Bush, everyone who all these people are like, oh, I just, I wish we had Bush instead of Trump.

I'm like,

you know, yes, less chaos.

I'd rather have Bush than Trump.

Sure, I get that.

I would do.

Well, but that's also like saying you'd rather be the

second guy.

I'd have to have dementia.

Right.

Right.

It's not good.

And like a lot of what

I was thinking more like the second to last guy on the bench instead of the last guy on the bench.

I like the syphilis and dementia.

The syphilis one is, I think, is a more colorful way to describe it.

I'd rather put my nuts in a mousetrap than

stick a fork in an outlet.

Like, that's really the shit we're dealing with here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, I mean, I've talked about it before, and I know there's a little bit of disagreement.

I think Trump is obviously a worse domestic president than George W.

Bush, but there is an argument to be made.

But they're awful.

But there's an argument to be made that George W.

Bush was a worse foreign policy president because of Iraq.

I mean, just because the nature of

that disaster

that destabilized the region, a million people lost their lives.

Iran built a nuclear weapon because then they were like, there was no deterrent anymore.

Yeah.

But like he, I mean, Trump is just universally bad.

I am not like they're they're they're both at the bottom.

We'll see how Trump does does with Ukraine and Gaza and we'll fast forward four years and see what's promised.

Here's my prediction.

Neither one of them is done in four years.

No,

if they are, they don't have anything to do with Trump.

No, Trump's not going to.

I mean, we'll see what Russia does with this demand for a ceasefire or whatever.

The next one.

They'll swipe their ass with it.

Yeah.

They'll be like, all right, good luck, dude.

I don't give a shit.

What are you going to do about it?

It's not going to go well for them.

All right.

Well, I think it's a perfect time to pivot to our new episode, our new segment, which we should have some music or something.

I think there's actually funny music in here that i can do but i'm not going to screw this up uh

ladies and gentlemen ready for ready this is our new episode our new i keep saying episode jesus uh i mean our new segment called get fucked with luke

Maybe that's actually

a tool at name.

No, not

biased.

We're actually fucked back.

Yeah, that's that's like

getting arrested for that.

Get fucked with Luke?

That feels like I'm getting fucked.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, here's get fucked, period.

There we go.

So, so it's a question, right, to the like the folks that are afflicted with the prion disease that is being MAGA.

Like, so when you talk about how, well, we're going to get 600 bucks on our fucking rebate because the tariffs are so good.

So, you get owned liberal.

How fucking stupid are you?

Like, is your family tree a fucking broom because you're so goddamn inbred?

Like,

it is just not that hard.

I cannot believe that he convinced people to be happy about a tax increase.

And in exchange, you know, you get $600 in exchange, countless human rights violations.

You know, people are losing their fucking rights.

People get ripped off the streets by masked men and you're cheering about $600.

Get fucked.

Like,

I don't understand it.

It's so stupid.

That was very good.

I mean, like, literally, it's like you could buy a new TV.

Congratulations.

Yeah, you can't even buy a TV if you want an OLED TV.

Like, if you want a good TV, you can't even buy a TV.

You need an insignia or some shit.

Don't get an insignia, you fucking.

I had one of those once, and it literally started like banging, like inside,

banging inside.

It's gonna burn, we're gonna burn this place down.

No, it's horrible.

I bought a uh, like when we moved into this house, I bought a Roku, like a 65-inch Roku, because I'm like, it's cheap.

I don't give a shit.

I'm gonna toss it in my bedroom.

My wife doesn't want a TV in there anyway, so I'm not gonna spend a lot of money.

Literally, day two, there's just a pixel that dies, and there's a giant bar across the entire thing.

I'm like, well, that's that.

You know, that's how this shit goes.

Well, speaking, speaking of

ineffective shit, of inexpensive guys,

let's talk about spending just $6 a month to be a member.

I'll probably find out.

Six bucks a month at findout podcast.substack.com helps to keep the lights on for us.

We are, I promise, we are working on content for members only.

Yes.

So there is more of an incentive, including potentially voting on some of the next bit of merch that we have created.

So, if you are a paid member, you will get to vote on which things go in the store.

There's a pretty cool shit.

There is some really, really cool stuff.

I'm excited about this.

We've got some really awesome stuff.

And we also have stuff in our store now if you want to buy it at findoutpodcast.com.

So, it is good to see.

There's two ways to support.

Yep.

I love the mug.

It feels very substantial.

The mug is, yeah, it is really substantial.

Trump likes out with it.

Yeah.

And it is all made in America because we live our values here and it is union made where we could get it.

So all that stuff and that will continue.

It's also very, very soft.

This is actually a Unite for Veterans shirt, but it's the same company.

It's very, very soft and comfortable.

So, and then you help spread the word about the Find Out podcast.

So

with that, guys, three of us, we made it.

We did.

We did.

We did.

We did it.

You know,

talk about how, oh, maybe this will just be a short episode because it's just the three of us.

And then an hour later.

An hour later, here we are.

We just, we love the sound of our voices, no matter who's in the room.

It's a good sound.

Well, guys, next week,

we actually haven't talked about next week yet, but I want to just give a little bit of announcement.

We are actually going to be, minus Chris, because he has a baby, we are going to be at Netroots Nation next week.

So if you are going to be there, let us know.

We're talking about doing a lot, at least our first live show with an audience,

which is really

exciting.

Oh, this group doesn't care.

You can do it.

We're working on a guest, a really exciting guest we haven't confirmed it so i don't want to say because that would be bad yeah um but we're going to be there all week uh it's going to be a really really fun we're going to do a lot of content from there and we'll probably do some stuff with just the four of us so which we don't whatever if i got a chance to do so uh so i don't know what uh if we're going to do a thursday episode next week we'll definitely do a tuesday one um so we have to figure that out but uh uh Don't fear.

We're not going anywhere.

You know, with this, today was 30th episode.

So we're like, we're in it.

So

we're cruising.

We're doing well.

We appreciate all the support.

The

comments.

Like I said, if you could be a paying subscriber, that would be great.

Or buy some merch and show it off.

That'd be awesome.

But I think we're good for now.

So, everybody, thank you for checking out the pod and sticking with us.

And we will talk to you next week.

Bye, guys.