Trump Keeps Losing, Stagflation, and RFK Jr.’s Senate Meltdown

Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Find Out podcast.

We've made it to episode 40.

There is so much crazy shit to talk about today.

It is kind of insane.

But as we were going live, we did just hear that the Supreme Court has essentially ruled in favor of the Trump administration in racially profiling people

in LA, which is not exactly a wonderful ruling.

But we also did hear this morning that on his civil case, the judgment that Eugene Carroll got against him is going to stand.

So there is some good and there's some bad today.

And I think that's pretty much how the fall is probably going to go.

A little good, not so bad.

Do you think he's going to pay Eugene Carroll in Trump coin or does it have to be cash?

I think he made like $500.

$5 million of those Trump phones.

Just the phones.

It's such a fucking loser thing, too, because just in the money that he's grifted so far this presidency, he could pay her, but he's choosing not to.

And he's, he's, I think it's the only thing he's ever been known for, though, isn't paying people.

He doesn't pay anybody.

So it's just in his, in his DNA to say, screw you.

I mean, there's the reason why everybody in New York City hates his guts.

It's because everybody has a story about a friend of a friend who did work for some

area of Trump's world and never got paid or got paid half because that's what he would do.

How does he get away with it?

Like imagine if one of us tried to do that.

It would just never work.

Because he was going after people that he knew he could screw over, like

contractors and stuff like that.

He would basically say,

I have lawyers on retainer.

So go ahead.

file a lawsuit.

And, you know, a lot of people just think, oh, you could just like, you know, sue them, but it takes a lawyer.

And like, if you're a contractor or whatever, you don't probably have cash for that retainer.

And that's only in the hopes that you get the money back.

So he needs a, he could just do it.

The battle of attrition.

It's like

you just do whatever you want.

I mean, that's what he's doing in government.

Do whatever you want.

And then people have to figure out how to.

how to challenge you and stop you and beat you.

And if they give up or if they run out of money, then you win.

And because that's

what you can't be a Democratic candidate for president 28 that says he's going to use the DOJ DOJ to seize all those motherfuckers' assets, and I will be lining up to vote for him.

We're going to get these motherfuckers.

That's what they're going to do.

What about health care?

No, it doesn't matter.

See, that shit comes after we get fucking, we get even.

Put the pedo felon in prison and take all of his shit, and then we can talk about health care and minimum wage.

Let's write what the motherfucker broke.

Yeah, and let's make sure that everybody knows that there are consequences to breaking the government.

And I don't think I.

And then we can break it our own way and give everybody health care like we should have done 40

years ago.

Yes,

maybe fix it our own way.

There are good ways to break it.

There's bad ways to break it.

See, that's the thing that I have come out of this presidency wanting out of a Democratic president.

Stop fucking around because clearly their side of the politics doesn't give a single solitary fuck about following the rules.

So why are we?

Like there's this shit that millions of people are asking for and you're like, oh, well, we just can't do that because like we got to follow all the rules.

Fuck that.

There's shit you have the power to do that they've clearly shown they have the power to do so do it there is a um term within the dc beltway crew that's basically like talking about not breaking quote-unquote norms yeah and that started with donald trump in 2015 and 16 and they continue there are no more norms to break they've all been broken so i the argument of like the democrat just has to come back in and you know make everything nice again i think i agree with you luke i don't think that's right i i think it's we need to hold people accountable who have been breaking the law over and over again.

And let's be honest, Trump has been breaking the law, hoping that a conservative Supreme Court will bail him out, which happens

half the time.

You know, so like he gets to do things that a regular court would not approve of, like this racial profiling bullshit.

But I agree.

I think the candidate next year, or not next year, but for 28, has to put forth one, a like cleaning house agenda, and then also an aggressive policy agenda as well.

I think they've got to do both.

Yeah.

I mean, it's the one positive thing that came from Trump is that I think he sort of broke the log jam of like how politics is supposed to go because nobody liked it.

Like nobody liked the way politics was.

It was all this like stiff dude wearing a suit, just dictating down a bunch of bullshit.

Nobody wants that anymore.

Like it used to sort of be like, let's just get back to where I don't have to think about politics.

Like that world is fucking gone.

And the new world is like, you got to do shit, you know?

Speaking of stiff dudes, what do you think that little blue pill that Trump was taking at the us open was little blue pill i didn't see that it was so there was it for those who didn't see there was a photo that was my that was my

that was a photo of him at the at the us open with what appeared to be a pill he was like chomping down on it it was a weird photo and i didn't see legitimate reporters talking about it so it's a real photo he was outed as an fbi informant in the epstein case this weekend so maybe it was one of those cyanide tooth things and he was like he was like i'm exposed

Exposed to all the booze.

Yeah.

Well, the, and if you didn't see it this weekend, which, you know, hopefully you were not paying attention like we were, but uh, uh,

yes, they, Mike Johnson, the speaker of the house, suggested in the most hilarious way that the reason that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files is because he's an FBI, was an FBI informant, which also runs right in the face of the Epstein story as a hoax.

So, and I think he walked that back oh yeah well the best way i think i think walking it back is such like a pop out of a way of saying it the motherfucker lied he lied yeah and he won't repeat the lie so call it what it is and call it a lie he stopped lying yeah i but like this oh they walked it back i don't like that well it's funny that there we still to this day most mainstream reporters won't say that the Trump administration is lying, even though they're lying most of the time.

Even when they're caught like in a tech, like you can technically prove that they did know that things were true and then they said that they were not true.

And then like that is the proof that, because that's always the hang up in journalism world is like, you have to prove that the person at the time they uttered the statement knew that they were wrong and they said it anyway because they have some nefarious intent.

I'm like, there are so many times now that that has been proven and they still.

won't just say Donald Trump lied about this.

I mean, every time he talks about alternative facts.

Every time he talks about gas prices, it's a lie.

Every time he talks about wind turbines, it's a fucking lie.

It's a lie.

And they refuse to say it.

Wait, are you suggesting that wind turbines don't cause cancer?

I'm pretty sure they don't.

Only whale cancer.

I agree.

Draft King Jr.

and wind turbines, the two biggest causes of whale death.

I think that there's a problem with this, though.

It's like two problems.

One is nobody gives a shit anymore, right?

It's the same shit as like, it's an overused word.

We say Trump's lying, and everybody goes, I know, I don't care.

You did a lie

a thousand times the first time.

That's the thing.

And what else?

All these, you know, fascism, authoritarian, all these words have no meaning left because we just overuse them because he did lie all the time.

But like, I don't know.

It's one of those things where I look at it and I'm like, I don't know what the right approach is, but like where they beat us is not that.

It's like positioning.

They don't give a shit if what they're saying is true or false because they understand how to position their narrative.

Like we're like, well,

don't give a fuck if it's a lie or not.

No, of course.

Like the pretty painting of an idea that this is all going to be true.

And, you know,

groceries are going to be fucking 10 cents and a burger is going to be a nickel.

Yes.

Right.

Well, but I think what we're seeing is also, which we talk about a lot, because obviously we're trying to counter, is the fact that there is a very large right-wing media ecosystem that every time they say something that the mainstream press says that they don't like, they send everybody after them.

And they've essentially succeeded in pulling the norms to the right.

Yes.

So that things that didn't used to be normal and they shouldn't be normal now are treated as such, like the lying and the hypocrisy and the stealing, all of this.

And we haven't had the same thing on the other side.

And because the media is so worried to this day about not being seen as biased,

they have shifted right to placate them to the point, which this still, it makes me ill to even say this.

CBS News is in talks with barry weiss who has started this thing called the free press which is actually the number one sub stack they're and it's filled with nonsense as you might imagine they're in talks to buy that for 200 million dollars and they're gonna let her barry weiss who left the new york times because her reporting was so biased they're gonna integrate her into cbs news 200 million dollars and an influential spot in mainstream media that's a waste of 200 million.

Not to toot our own horn.

I always hated that expression, by the way.

It's a terrible expression.

I'm like, who's tooting horns?

Fuck.

Right.

But journalism, like, I love journalism.

I love what it used to be.

There used to be judgment in journalism.

And they would give you that.

You know, you think back to like Walter Cronkite in that era and before that.

They would give you the

sane person's take, like the everyman take

on what they're reporting as they're reporting it, because otherwise you're like, Am I crazy or does it feel like they're lying?

Or am I crazy or does it feel like this is super fucking corrupt?

And they don't give you that part of it anymore.

And I think that's why people are going.

I mean, it's definitely why people are going to social more than ever, but it's not just for the fact-based reporting because like we don't have the resources to go and do these investigative, you know, reports where you have to like be inside of a covert operation essentially for a year so you can get the details.

And we don't have those relationships, or at least most of us don't.

But what we do have is the fucking voice of sanity when this stuff is happening.

And that has been completely like erased from the surface of

all mass media outlets to where you just you have to dig into the like politico opinion section to find somebody who just will say, yeah, this is super fucked up and they're all corrupt, by the way.

Like you're not crazy.

This is actually true.

Right.

No, it's true.

I think that the media, like that, that system relied on two sides relatively playing the same game.

Right.

And then you'd have somebody in the middle, you know, like the Murrows and Cronkites and all of those being able to, you know,

report.

fairly and honestly.

I'm sure they had biases too, but you know, for the most part, both sides were playing the same game.

It doesn't work when one side has decided decided that they are just going to demonize those people in order to justify to their audiences what they're doing.

I mean, it's actually from a purely power play move, it was genius of Trump to just call everything in the mainstream media fake lies.

Or lies.

He's using those terms, even though he was lying about the lies.

No, it's extremist positioning.

That's all it is.

Yeah.

But it worked.

And they fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.

And then they were like, well, we can't have one side calling us biased because then that's going to make us look like we lean left and they have over corrected i there's no doubt about it oh yeah yeah but essentially destroyed the mainstream media uh uh vehicle anyways because now nobody really buys what they're selling see okay i just i just got this report um this is an interesting thing that i hate this this is a good example of trump skewing things yeah this is a quote from donald trump today

He claimed that crime is down to virtually nothing in DC and adds that crimes that are happening are, quote, much lesser things, things that take place in the home, they call crime.

You know, they'll do anything they can to find something.

If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this is a crime.

See, Trump said this, Trump said that.

That's not surprising.

You mean he's just whitewashing domestic abuse?

Domestic violence, no big deal.

Yeah, he doesn't care.

Holy sake.

That's that's the thing.

It's like the other reason why this works is very clear.

It's that the way that society has become so much, their attention span has just gotten shortened.

Context is boring now.

Yeah, that's really the biggest problem: is that like to people, like it used to be like what Rich, you're talking about, where it's like journalism mattered and all this shit mattered.

It doesn't matter because people just can't pay attention that long.

So, like, that's why Trump being a headline-based speaker is what makes him so effective because nobody cares if he's telling the truth or not.

They just want an exciting headline.

Well, and

he's doing this right now.

Rich just smartly pointed out in the chat: you know, we got a really bad jobs number on Friday.

Really, and and and the revisions were just as bad.

June actually got revised so that it was a negative 1,000 jobs in the month of June.

It was originally with 12 or 13,000 gained, which isn't good, but that's even worse.

They revised August up to 6,000, but uh no, July up to 6,000, and then August came in at 22,000.

So he has had a mountain of terrible, terrible economic news, which by the way, even Axios, which nobody can claim is left-leaning, said that

the sluggish growth is almost entirely related to what do we think?

Tariffs.

They keep yanking them back and forth.

There are no real made-in-America, very, very few made-in-America products anymore when you think about the ingredients and

the pieces.

And so he is doing this.

Now, I don't know why whitewashing domestic abuse is the answer to

this.

I'd like to take this from South Park.

It's because Donald Trump is fucking Satan.

That's it.

He just doesn't.

Not like he is actually Satan.

You mean literally fucking Satan.

Could be Emor.

I mean, they're a perfect pair.

I wish them all the best.

I just wish they would go off and do their thing in their own home.

But let's think of it.

What is it?

They say we don't care what you do behind closed doors.

That's what all the Republican shitstains always pair.

Except they absolutely do.

Except they do.

Except they do.

So here's the thing that they take every opportunity to care and to create.

No gay stuff, no abortions, but you can hate your wife.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because that their fault.

That's okay happening behind a closed door.

So here are a few things that Donald Trump has either said or done since this terrible jobs report came out.

First of all, you notice how he didn't demonize the new head of the BLS because it's a heritage guy,

but still reported the 22,000 jobs.

So that failed.

But this weekend, he decided to go to

the U.S.

Open

and got booed pretty badly.

First, when they let him in, and that's after they said we don't want to show the booing on TV, right?

Right.

Well, when he originally came in and was waving to the crowd, it was completely empty.

So when he entered, they made sure that the room wasn't full to minimize that.

But then he was there for the full thing.

And if you looked in his box, it was like just filled with the most garbage of his minions hanging around him, Caroline Levitt and Dan Scavino and all these people.

And I got booed.

And so there was that.

So apparently he's decided to say, you know, domestic abuse in the home is cool.

He was also weirdly chomping on some blue, it looked like a pill.

There was a photo of, which I don't know if he's just like.

trolling everybody now or if he could be like a horse he needs like something to fixate on yeah

uh yeah so the i don't know if the us open was just meant to distract from the jobs report report, probably.

But, you know, like he's just, yeah.

I just, we, we have to emphasize because it makes me so fucking crazy.

Joe Biden delivered, I think, an average of like 215,000 jobs per month on average for 48 consecutive months.

No job losses.

Every single fucking month of his tenure for four years, all the way up through January this year.

Job gains, job gains, job gains.

The reason why inflation wasn't as destructive as it was, they made it into a political bomb, but was because we were mostly employed.

If you wanted a job, you could get a job.

And up until

I think it was early 2023, it was like March 2023, wage growth then began to outpace.

um inflation and so even though prices were going up wages on average were going up like two percent faster and so we had we were in this like they called they kept saying oh maybe it's a soft landing and we'll never have a recession he literally gave us a soft landing and then like a fucking two mile long runway of landing to just coast it out as long as possible.

And then we started growing.

And now it only took him, it turns out, four months as president.

It's hard to turn the economy in any direction.

But by June, we had lost jobs after him inheriting this amazing economy that

stupid lib.

He kicked prices over two hands at that plant.

So now there's like 400 new jobs for an American.

I actually had someone comment that and it was like, oh my God, you are insufferable.

You could not, you are as used to, you are as much used to society as a screen door on a fucking submarine.

Holy shit.

We were essentially at full, full employment.

We were pretty close.

And,

and again, we say it because it's important.

We did have high inflation in the United States, but cons, but compared to the rest of the world, it was lower.

That doesn't mean that people didn't experience pain.

And I don't mean to say that, but it's important context to know that like when you close, the entire world closed, basically shut their doors for a year.

And then, so nothing happened, loss, job losses, all this stuff.

Then we opened it.

And of course, there's going to be a surge of activity, which is going to drive inflation.

But we also made sure that people had money to cover it.

We also like Biden passed the strongest climate legislation in history, which included producing.

electricity, which the Trump administration has now taken away.

You know, we had the CHIPS Act.

The CHIPS Act is something that isn't talked about enough where companies are literally closing plants in other countries and moving them here.

There was an, I don't remember the company, they had a plant in Germany.

They closed the plant and relocated everybody or just were going to rehire in the U.S.

because the incentives were so good.

And this is the thing that is the difference between Republicans and Democrats that has gone from the 1950s on.

The way to stimulate the economy, and it's been proven time and time again, the way to stimulate the economy is to pump money into it.

If you want to stall the economy, you take money out of it.

And that is exactly what Donald Trump has done, both from tax cuts that are going to the wealthy, which means they're just going to stick in their pocket, and tariffs, which drive prices up at the same time.

It is a self-owned

time bomb that is now going off at exactly the time that everybody said it would go off.

Unless you're a server getting tips at the yacht club, then you might make a little bit of money.

No, no, no.

They don't even get it on their paycheck.

It goes to the fucking tax exemption at the end.

Right.

It's not even, yeah, you're not, it's just, you don't get it in the year, right?

And it's only for two years or something like that.

Yeah.

The absolute knuckle-draggers that told me about how they needed to vote for Trump so their paycheck would be bigger when they worked overtime.

And I was like, that's never going to fucking happen.

But yeah, but now our job is to explain somehow

to them.

I mean, they'll realize it when like, I mean, their taxes are

never bigger.

It's the same size all the time.

But this goes back to what, you know, we are doing and some others are doing on the left is that like we have to combat an entire network that goes from TV down to streaming.

And I don't mean, I don't mean streaming like Netflix.

I mean like

gamers and things like that, where there's a whole network of folks that

tell people from 85 to 15

that this same message over and over again.

And we don't have it.

And that's part of the reason why we are building this because somebody has to do it.

And because otherwise we're never going to get those people back.

And we just don't position ourselves in time, too.

Like, for example, like, this is a good conversation for the moment we're in, because, but this is not going to be what it is in a few months.

Rates are going to get cut, and business is going to boom, and Trump is going to look great in six months.

And we have to be prepared for that message to be like, this is temporary.

There are specific things that are going to be really bad.

Be prepared for it, but we're going to be in this reactive, like we're always reacting as opposed to like setting the tempo.

I don't know if that's going to happen.

Yeah, 100% is going to happen.

I'll take that bet.

I'll take that.

If rates get cut, though, then prices go up.

But the rate of infl, like rates are only going to get cut if inflation is not going to boom, which we know Powell has been trying to, so he's, and he's made it clear he's going to cut rates.

And cut rates are going to increase, it's going to make the housing market better.

It's going to make businesses make more investments.

It's going to increase the job market.

It's temporary because in the end, it will create more inflation.

They'll have to scale that shit back.

But this is the pendulum of the economy.

What is going to happen is rates will get cut and the economy will get stimulated by that cut.

Oh,

I agree with

the logic behind that, but the problem that I have with it is that the tariffs are still there and the yanking back and forth is still there.

So yes, it will be cheaper to borrow money, right?

Like, and we're going to borrow money.

They're absolutely more expensive, though.

They're absolutely

at the end of the moment.

That's all that matters.

It'll be a mixed bag is what I'm saying.

So that's what I'm saying.

The idiots that we were just talking about don't know the difference.

They don't know what a cut rate means.

All they know is what it costs to fucking buy a steak at the grocery store.

True.

That's what made them vote for him.

The challenge with it is they're already experiencing high prices.

So like a price going on.

Yeah, but like if it jumps another 15%, yeah, then it's different, but I don't think it will

for a while.

Like, I mean, it's, it's like, you know, look at inflation globally, for example.

The pen, the effects of the pandemic that Tim, you were just talking about that created that global inflation took almost a year and a half to actually be seen in the marketplace across the world.

So like a lot of this shit we're talking about, these higher prices, they will happen, but they're not going to happen for a while.

Like it's, it's going to take time to really cycle in and what you're going to see in the short term

is is the appearance of growth so we need to be able to understand how to message like this is a completely false thing that's happening right here and you're about to have a problem ahead of time

they're going to have to do that but at the same time they'll have a sterling example of what the is going on with the farmers right or the farm farmers are so far they're ruined

well that's my i and that ends also my that's also my hot take for the day is we should let them suffer so before we jump in what i want want to give context to the listeners if they were not, if they didn't see this this weekend.

So there were clips of a of a I don't know what this event was, but there were farmers in Arkansas.

Yep, I've got the stats pulled up.

Overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump, right?

64% of them.

Arkansas farmers.

64%.

They held an event this weekend and they were begging, like literally begging Donald Trump for help.

And one of the guys said, I have never seen it so bad in my like profession.

Yep, it's just like last time at the present rate, because of the tariffs, a third of them will be bankrupt by this time next year.

Yes, it's true.

And one of them had a great quote where he said, What did he say?

He said, I, you know, Trump keeps saying that he loves farmers, and I need him to show me that love now.

Like, that's the point where it's like, I mean, it really, this is where they really find out, you know, of like, this is what I'm saying.

Well, here's my thing.

Okay, you want some government handouts?

You pull yourself up a fucking blue vote history.

Right.

You voted for them.

This is what you fucking get.

Yep, that's true.

I mean, it has, it's not new, though.

I mean, like, like they said, like, last year was bad for them too.

Like, farming in general has gotten because, you know, farming.

You had to bail them out the first time.

Yeah.

This is the consequences of your own actions.

And farming is definitely a low margin game.

And when you have higher, when you have inflation, it's very challenging.

So like it's it, that's why Trump won them because like they even in 24 were not doing well.

And now they're just doing worse.

And they're like, well, fuck, what do I do?

The tariffs are bad for them, too.

I mean, if you think about

soybean farmers, it's got screwed the first go-around.

And I'm going to throw lobstermen in there.

They're not really farmers, but like, I know this one, but like, they, but when you put those tariffs on China, in particular, all the or whatever Asian countries, like these farmers and lobstermen do a lot of business in Asia.

And you just made it far more expensive in one of the biggest markets on earth, China.

You know, he's put these tariffs in and it kills them because some of their product is, you know, sold here, but also farm equipment.

A lot of it is sold over there.

Right.

But like farm equipment gets more expensive, right?

Because where are all those parts made?

Not here.

And there's no way they're going to be made here.

I thought that there were going to be fucking magical factories that were going to spring up from the earth like magic springs.

That was going to happen day one.

You know, it's actually a better use of all of that farmland in the middle of the country.

Yeah, black replace it all up you know just replace all of that that soil with factories to make little what did what did uh scott besant call them um was it widgets or was it

something like it was like it was a word like widgets it was like doodads or like trinkets like pieces parts or something

so we're all gonna work in in factories that are built out of retro fitted uh grain silos making american iphones 12 hours a day our 5,000 iPhone.

That's the American dream, you guys.

There's another way.

There's another way that Donald Trump screwed over farmers, and that is a lot of farmers over the past 10 or 15 years have been subsidizing their crops by allowing energy companies to put wind turbines on their land because they are big open spaces.

And there's a lot, when there's big open spaces, there's wind.

And he and the BBB killed all of the incentives for that.

So they don't even have that that they can go for now.

And that's not like the majority of them, but it is something I know in Iowa they do in Texas, they do like all these places, right?

And now, no more.

You know what the worst part of the tariffs is, too?

Like, nobody ever talks about it, and it was perfectly on display in the last week, is that it's consolidating our enemies and bringing them like brings in allies, like

what a surprise!

Threatening India with 50%.

What do you think they're going to do?

They're going to read, they're going to go to China and be like, hey, I know we hate each other, but

let's figure that out.

Trade with me for less than 50%.

I don't think that anybody understands exactly how,

one, intertwined all of this is, but two, how

irreparably, I think, he is damaging, if not

destroying our status in the world.

Because BRICS right now is where growth is.

Brazil and Russia and China and India, especially.

Well, I think that's most of BRICS.

What does S there's one more?

I don't know.

Who is the S?

Who is it?

Syracuse.

It's a college.

Got it.

But

Russia or less Russia, but India and China and Brazil are all growing their GDP faster than the United States.

And the trajectory for India and China, especially with their population, is

100 times the trajectory for our economy.

You can only grow a country with 340 million people so much economically compared to two countries with 1.4 billion each.

And to allow them to consolidate.

And then, like, did you guys see his mean girls tweet?

He like posted, like, well, I hope they have a very happy life together.

He just sounded like a little bitch.

It's just so fucking cringy.

Imagine being such a fucking loser.

And now we're not selling to those markets, which is why the price of soybeans and corn has dropped by about half each.

And

I read that there's a

wicked bumper crop this year, which normally is great when you have buyers, but now we don't, which means the market, which has half the demand that it used to from 2022 was the high point in the middle of Biden's presidency.

The market has dropped in half right as it's about to get flooded with more than ever.

And nobody has made advanced orders for next year either.

So they already are looking at, I think it was a 50% drop in exports this year, and they have zero dollars paid in advance for

2026 from from china specifically it

these once they get their food they get their their gas they get their natural gas they get their oil they get everything from everywhere else and they're getting a as good or a better deal getting ourselves back into the place where we have been used to being for the last 60 70 years 100 years is it's going to be tough if not impossible without a fucking good leader and a smarter congress so here's a really tough question that if we really knew the answer to it we'd be probably very wealthy.

But

how do we, so like all this bad shit's happening, right?

And it's like farmers are getting hit and other sectors are getting hit as well.

But like, how do we,

how do we reach these some, some, not all of them, how do we reach some of them and explain that like democratic policies would benefit them?

Is it just a lost cause?

No,

I think it's super simple.

It's the simplest thing ever.

You got to let them hit rock bottom.

Yep.

They go.

Like they, the only thing that's going to make them even slightly, because the the thing is, I don't even think that you'll ever get them to vote blue.

I grew up in an area that was full of fuckwits like this.

And I watched them.

They got shafted by Trump.

Farmers got shafted by Trump his first time, had to get bailed out so that they could put food on the table and then lined up to vote for him the second time.

Yep.

And the only thing that's going to matter is if they get absolutely ruined and he doesn't bail them out this time.

And the next time they won't go out to vote at all.

They'll just stay home.

Exactly.

They are convinced

that anybody blue is the demon rat can't do it.

And then they pivot back to abortion.

And

that's where the social wedge issues come in, but they're not as impactful as economic issues, which is why Joe Biden absolutely fucking annihilated Donald Trump in 2020.

It was not a close election in the end.

And we will get that again because, like, to answer your question,

the same thing that fucked us in 2024 is going to help us in 2026 and 2028, which is

you can't logic like Luke, you've said

somebody out of a position they didn't logic themselves into.

And they will look with that same irrational lens at their own lack of prosperity when the time comes.

And you won't be able to explain to them there's a good reason why you have less money.

They just see less money and they're angry and they will either act or not act accordingly.

But it's not going to go to JD Matt's.

No, that's for sure.

Just dance prance.

He's so like the thing that's scary though is that like people at the top of their party, Trump and Vance in particular, are so good at making terrible arguments sound appealing.

Like they're so good at it.

And even people in these, like, they're, these people are vulnerable to their ideology.

So like, yeah, they might look at their bank account and go, I got fucked, but look, JD Vance made it sound okay.

So, and that's it.

That's all it takes.

Well, here's a good example of that that I think most of us who saw it were pretty horrified about.

But like, you know, apparently we are now like military, like, we are like threatening Venezuela.

And we,

over the weekend or last week, or whenever it was, shot or sunk, I should say, shot, I say shot down, but I guess blue.

Yes, yes, yeah.

A boat that we claimed were running drugs, but there are no, there's no evidence of that.

And I, was it in Venezuelan waters or was it?

No, international waters.

International waters,

but it came from Venezuela.

And so Maduro got all bent out of shape about it.

But like, when I think someone asked

Vance on it,

pressed Vance on it about like how this is a violation of international law and like blah, blah, blah.

And he goes, I don't give a shit.

Yep.

That's what he said.

I like that.

And I do.

I agree.

I'm horrified by it because

it's very dangerous.

And we can't just be out there like sinking boats and being like drugs when like maybe or maybe not.

Or also, oh, he said, what happened to due process?

I think was what somebody said.

Yeah, what happened to due process?

And he was like, I don't give a shit about that.

That's a vice president of the United States who tweeted it out, and it is still there, which means he stands by it.

But I think

MAGA folks love it, right?

Because they're like, Yeah, like I think here's the thing, though.

I think it's not just MAGA folks.

I think people in the middle in this country also look at that and go, like, they're like, I don't care either.

Like, because they look at it and go, all right, either immigrants who are trying to get here illegally, drug runners, or whatever.

Like, what do I give a shit about?

Really, the reality is

they looked at it.

They said they were probably brown people on that boat, and they said they don't give a fuck.

And that's the truth of it.

Yeah, I mean, people, people aren't going to, this one incident is not going to move the needle, I think, probably for anybody, because it's like worst case scenario, they broke the law and they killed people I don't know.

Best case scenario, they killed drug dealers and cartel members.

And I mean, I like, I'll be fully honest.

I'm actually, I'm not going to say I'm conservative.

I think I'm a regular person when it comes to law and order, which is if there's a criminal, do something about it.

like violent criminals.

Like the cartel shit is out of fucking control from the top half of South America all the way through Mexico.

And those countries need to use their police and/or militaries to get that shit under control.

We obviously should keep those people out of our country.

But if you start talking about

shooting ships out of international waters because you think that there was something wrong, all it takes is for one boat full of fishermen to be accidentally labeled and i mean maybe they'll never go and prove that there weren't drugs on the boat because they blew it into oblivion and now it's at the bottom of the atlantic right but something

this is not a good path to go down and more importantly i'm not going to talk about like hey we need to defend cartel members or like maybe cartel members but i will say This is the president of peace, the person who everybody, they all said was like going to keep us out of all of these foreign conflicts.

And And now he wants to be the world police again, right?

From South Park.

He wants to

be the fucking world police with the Department of War curing the world of its drug problems all while you pay fucking $750 for a steak at the grocery store.

Yeah, it's just, it blows me away.

And I mean, at the end of the day, the name is like not a huge deal, but like for a guy who wants to...

Because it costs a billion dollars, that I feel is a big deal.

Well, it costs a billion dollars.

Oh, cool.

Changing it into all of it.

Changing it into favorite

billion dollars?

I've seen it estimated at a billion dollars.

I don't even think he can rename it.

It's voted by Congress.

It's not.

Yeah, but every contract the Department of Defense ever has done has to be changed.

Jesus Christ.

But

the symbolism of it is the opposite of being the president of peace, right?

Really?

Just ask me, like, the Department of Defense sounds cooler than the Department of War.

I mean, we used to have the Department of War when we go to war a lot.

And then

I think we realized that maybe something that is like aggressive like that, when we're trying to be like the protector of the world, is maybe not the best thing to call it.

But I also just don't really think it matters.

I don't want to spend a billion dollars on if he's fine spending a billion dollars on this over feeding some poor, poor children, I have a serious problem with that.

Yeah, that's a whole other thing.

You know, he doesn't, clearly doesn't care where his money is spent as long as the right-wing donors are satisfied with what he is doing.

Right.

I think we like one thing I want to talk about with this issue, because I think like there's like Rich brought up an interesting point.

I sort of line where he lines with this like law and order feels conservative to say that we like law and order and shit like that.

I think like Democrats are missing a huge opportunity here.

Like I'll give you an example within how they're handling the cartel in Mexico, for example.

Trump's whole concept is like, hey, we should invade Mexico and like go and attack the cartels and we should do the same thing in Venezuela, which is clearly wrong.

Like it's a stupid fucking thing.

There's no, you know, there's no sovereignty for these potential other countries.

Makes no sense.

However, the United States getting into a joint military operation with the country.

So, for example, Mexico, we go and make a deal with them and say, hey, we'll work with you with our military and your military to clear these motherfuckers out together and have a mutual benefit from it.

That is something I think most people in this country would get behind.

Right.

Democrats can take the germ of a good idea from Trump's approach to this shit and erase all the horrible shit and go, here, here's an actual solution.

And it would make people in the middle look at Democrats and go, wait a minute, that's actually a pretty good idea.

They don't do that.

Why?

Like, what's the harm in a plan like that?

If you're not going to be able to do that, and instead of framing it as, I mean,

there are a lot of ways you'd frame that, but instead of framing it as we are sending our military to kill cartel members,

what we do is say, we are supporting an ally to stop the fucking bleeding at home.

So

because that's what's driving a lot of immigration, you guys.

That's the most insane thing that they don't understand is that

if they had booming economies and safe cities in Central America and in Mexico and South America, suddenly they're not

desperate to find prosperity anywhere.

They're not fucking trying to get through Donald Trump's black painted 900-foot piping hot border wall with Christy Noam standing at the top with a fucking horse.

Which people have already climbed, by the way.

I mean,

it didn't work.

But it's

so hot.

How does that holes cut in it?

It's just science.

It's too hot to touch, you guys.

God.

Yeah, there's a video I saw online of somebody just like climbing it.

It took him like 26 seconds to get up.

I'm sorry.

I just looked at it.

It is $1 billion to change it.

That's crazy.

Perfect.

Every single piece of letterhead, building signage, road signs, base information books, fighting manuals, technical manuals, operations manuals, plaques, ceremonial goods, branded gifts, stationary, and every other thing with DOD branding on it has to be changed.

And all the contracts that have ever been done with the DOD.

That's fucking crazy.

But he wants the Nobel Peace Prize.

Yeah.

Can we make it it the Nobel War Prize?

A billion dollars to rename it the Department of War so that he can win a peace prize.

Yeah.

Should there be like the Razzies, which is like the worst movies of the year?

Can we do that?

Can we do the reverse on the Nobel Peace Prize?

Kind of interesting.

Easily the worst.

The Nobel Peace Prize.

Donald Trump, Netanyahu, Maduro,

you could do that.

There'd be some serious competition in there.

It really would.

I want to go back to the economic discussion real quick because there's just one piece that we didn't really call out

regarding rates and job growth and economic growth.

Tariffs really are an insane wildcard there.

And I think that there's a word that has kind of been floating around in some news articles about this, but it's stagflation.

Stagflation is not something that...

I think really any Americans under like 60 have seen firsthand because the last time we had stagflation, I believe was in the 70s.

And essentially what stagflation is, is prices are going up.

So it's inflation and there's stagnant economic growth.

So GDP is like zero, you know, GDP is flat or pathetic and job growth is flat or pathetic, and yet prices are still going up.

And the way you get, it feels foreign because we've always had

an fairly open trade relationships to resolve that.

And so you can, if you increase exports and you keep the growth coming, you can avoid stagflation.

But

if

Powell lowers rates right now and everybody says, hey, I can get a cheaper loan for a vehicle or I can get a cheaper rate on a house, which are the two biggest drivers that regular people

use rates for.

They'll go in and they'll buy that car.

It'll increase the demand, or at least they'll start shopping.

It'll increase demand for the car.

But the car is still made out of fucking tariffed steel and aluminum.

The house is still made out of fucking tariffed lumber from Canada.

And when you bake in those prices, what you're doing is you're increasing demand for the, for the product, which will increase the price.

You're not increasing supply.

You're actually constraining supply.

And you're increasing the cost of the materials.

So you have all of these functions that are pushing the cost of the material up.

And so even though people will maybe get a lower rate, it's just going to make prices go completely apeshit unless he then slides in at the last last minute to save the day and say, look, I saved us from myself again, and I'm going to make a deal on lumber so that you can have a low rate and you can have your house too.

There's also just the other element.

Even if you erase tariffs from it, the concept of lowering rates will inherently make things more expensive anyway.

Because if demand is going to go up and prices, that's why Powell won't fucking do it.

It's terrifying.

Yeah.

I mean, I think

he is going to.

Right.

He's going to go.

Job numbers are so bad.

They have to.

I mean, like, that's really what it comes down to.

That's why he hasn't for this long.

Right.

That's why he waited yeah that's why he waited and he should have he should have waited like i don't like it but he should have i mean good good for him for holding but yeah yeah so here's a question have you guys been up to date on the lutnick

did you read about that um what is what does everybody have to say

one of the biggest so there's a bunch of there's a bunch of like firms on wall street buying up the right to a potential um refund of your tariff money and in exchange for giving you 20% of it.

And guess what?

One of the biggest buyers of that is

it's a company called Cantor Fitzgerald.

And guess who's the head of that?

Recently, recently.

That would be Howard Luttnick's two 20-something-year-old sons.

That's perfect.

Wonderful.

Yeah.

So there's no conflict of interest there.

They're setting it up to get paid coming and going.

If the tariffs get deemed illegal and they have to refund, they get

a vote of money.

Increasingly, it's a lot of possible vote of money.

Yeah, it is possible.

Actually, a lot of most experts, I think, say that even this Supreme Court will rule them unconstitutional because there's too many things underneath it that will fall apart if they said they were fine.

I think that's Donald Trump's off-road or off-ramp.

If he takes the off-ramp, gives back the, I think they have to give at least like 50% of it.

Yes.

That's what they say.

And find some way to give it to the actual people and not like give it to people that paid the increased costs.

Because if they just give it to the companies, nobody gives a fuck.

But if he can do that and then like try and put us back on Biden's path of the economy or even just let it like stagnate by itself without actively making it worse, all that's that's what's going to happen is the MAGA shitwits are going to love that.

I think people get their tariff rebate check with Trump's name on it and they'll be like, look at what he did for us.

He'd be like, see, you mean he's your own fucking money?

He took your money with no interest for fucking 12 months.

I don't think that's going to work, though.

As far as shooting the economy back up, I think I don't think he's ever going to shoot it back up.

I think if he can just keep it flat, that's all it takes.

Guys, with that,

RFK is the one who shoots things up.

All right, so that's where I was going to pivot from before

was because we got to talk, I mean, it was a few days ago now, but we got to talk about it, was this just completely, completely

unhinged and insane Senate hearing that was Thursday or Wednesday last week.

Whatever day it was, it was terrible.

I can't even believe I have to say these words.

Health and Human Services Secretary, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr., testified in front of the Senate, one of the, I don't remember which committee it was, but Commerce or I don't know.

It was good people.

It was fucking Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders.

They were not fuck around people.

And he went and fucked around.

Michael Bennett.

Well, even the Republicans.

So one of the, my favorite part.

So first of all, he was screaming at them as they were screaming at him, which is.

I mean, can you call that screaming?

Well, it was like a gravel truck crashing into a garbage disposal.

He's like the male version of Catherine Hepburn at this point.

And with the, I have a very butt.

Anyways, I'm not going to do it because I do terrible.

And I wouldn't make fun, except he's such a horrible human being that I don't give a shit.

His voice sounds like a fucking fork in the garbage disposal.

Right.

Well, so first of all,

everything he said essentially was a lie.

And like he just, the thing that...

The thing that he has gotten by on for so long is one, his name, but two, he states things with numbers that sound right.

Yes.

And then you, but you have to know it in order to push back.

And the senators knew it.

And the senators knew it.

So my favorite part was when Senator Cassidy, who, by the way, is a Republican from Louisiana, is a medical doctor who also voted, but also voted to confirm RFK.

I don't want to let him off the hook.

Because RFK promised he wasn't going to limit access to the private sector.

I wish that he couldn't.

Only a fucking idiot looked at him and said, yeah, he won't.

He's going to be so

Republican.

So the best part was there was this whole stupid conversation about Donald Trump getting a Nobel Peace Prize for Operation Warp Speed, which was the program that helped to fast-track, though not that fast, but fast-track the mRNA vaccines and to market.

I just meant that they were already working on before.

They probably would have been ready.

They did speed.

So, they said,

RFK, right.

They said, Do you think that Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for Operation

Warp Speed?

He said, yes.

Senator Cassidy said, explain to me how Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for the vaccine that you called the deadliest in history.

That killed more people than COVID.

He actually said that you can't, yes,

you can be correct on both.

That doesn't make any sense.

That's not how numbers work.

It doesn't make any sense.

You deserve

the Nobel Peace Prize for killing a million people because there's about a million people in the United States, maybe 1.1 million at this point.

And they still to this day dying of COVID, by the way.

People who forget this.

There are still hundreds of people

every month dying.

Yeah.

Every month.

Yeah.

And actually, mostly in red areas, mind you, as well, where vaccine

hesitancy is higher.

Did you see that fucking Florida, the Floridian attorney?

Oh, my God.

The Surgeon General said he didn't even research if more people were going to get sick.

Well, he doesn't care.

That shit's insane.

He doesn't care.

So, and by the way, he was a serious doctor before he went to Florida.

So he just completely sold out for power.

He was not like this before.

But he was on CNN this weekend, and Jake Tapper said to him,

What is the analysis that you guys did to determine what the increase in hospitalizations and deaths will be by getting rid of vaccine mandates in the schools?

And he said, we didn't.

Yep.

Of course not, because that's not the problem.

I trust Dr.

fucking McKilla Duddies more than I trust a Republican doctor.

i hear

the the response i have to that is so simple too where it's like he talks about parents rights and this other the parents have the right to not send their kids to public school they can homeschool these kids like

if people they have the choice off right nobody's you know sticking a gun to the kid's head and going go to the public school

what happens What happens to the parents of a kid who has some sort of autoimmune deficiency in which they can't get a vaccine?

They lose the choice to send their kids to public school when you don't have these mandates.

So they're just this.

So that parents' choice thing is complete and utter bullshit.

It's the same thing with like, well, I don't get a say.

You're making my business put the, you know, vaccine to buy arm, then get another job that's remote.

That's your choice.

You, there is no.

These people still have fucking whine about the fact that they had to show they were vaccinated to go to Applebee's one time five fucking years ago.

They will never stop whining about this.

You know how you know this take is terrible?

Is that Trump agrees with us?

Trump was in the overall office and like aggressively agreed with this stance of like, no, this is really stupid what Florida's doing, and it's dangerous, and I don't know why they're doing it.

But he did.

I'm not going to give him too much credit, though, because he is allowing RFK to do the same thing.

No, I know, I know.

But at least he's like, he knows the power of his voice, and he was kind of like

dumb as shit.

I saw somebody that tweeted, ask not what you can do for your country, but ask what the fuck is wrong with my nephew.

And that made me laugh.

I mean,

it's just

the good news, there is some good news is that there are states in the Northeast and states on the West Coast, they're all blue, shocker, that are forming their own sort of vaccine guideline commissions.

It doesn't help the folks in the middle of the country, but you know, I think that at least there is accurate information and there will be, you know, obviously listening to your doctors.

Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York, Pat signed an executive order basically allowing anybody three and up to get a vaccine without a prescription, which is great.

I don't know why it wasn't six months, was where it should have been, but maybe there were some legal reasons for that.

So,

the information hopefully will get out there.

But again, the people who like this are the ones that are going to suffer the most, which is the most frustrating part about all of this.

Oh, and also, guys, I don't, didn't we talk about this last week that RFK discovered the cause of autism?

Oh, yeah.

Tylenol, not aspirin, not aspirin, Tylenol.

And of course, Tylenol came out, or whoever owns Tylenol, and said there is zero evidence to put it

because it's the most docile drug you can put in your body.

Infinity billion doses.

And there's no causal.

That's the thing.

Like on both Tylenol and vaccines.

Yes, at the time, the vaccine development was

as fast as possible, rightfully so, because people were dying every single day and wanted the vaccine and not fucking COVID.

But now

there have been like 500 billion doses of

50 billion people have gotten this vaccine.

It's the most funny vaccine ever.

I'm telling in market studies like this is the study.

I'm not dead.

I am the study.

I'm right here.

The world is still turning.

We're all

about vaccine death, vaccine harm.

There are vaccine injuries.

Have you heard about it?

There are cases of vaccine deaths.

No, no, Zach.

No, no, Zach.

It's all in the VARES system.

VARS.

For anybody out there who ever hears that, VARS is Yelp for for vaccine adverse reactions.

That's all it is.

Anybody who doesn't like the vaccine, if you hate the vaccine, you can go on Veris and be like,

I got 20 new ears and six new legs because of the fucking vaccine.

It's not vetted, not verified, and then just stays in the system.

It's the stupidest fucking thing ever.

You can have 1% functioning blood flow in your arteries, get.

the shot and then the next day have a catastrophic heart attack because you've been eating lard and potato chips for 57 years straight.

And then your sister can go into Veriz and say, My husband died.

Well, it's probably the husband and the sister too, but or the brother and the husband, but my husband died because he got the shot yesterday.

And Veriz is like, cool, let's share this with the world.

Well,

there was a period, right, where anytime anybody died, the anti-vaxxers were like,

it was Hank Aaron.

There's one.

Hank Aaron, who is second on the all-time home runs list and was

they don't consider steroids, but that's a different thing.

755, 755, beating Babe Ruth at 714.

And he died at like 88.

And they were like, it was because of the vaccine.

He was 88.

Oh, you know who another one was?

DeMar Hamlin.

Remember that?

The guy almost died on the field.

Oh, yeah.

They were like, oh, it was a heart attack because of the vaccine.

They were like, no.

It wasn't an NFL safety hitting your chest at 950 miles an hour.

It was the shock you got two years ago.

That's nuts.

Absolutely so nuts.

But that's the thing with the anti-vaxxers, right?

They don't have, they have these, they, they hang on these little kernels, right?

Like the thing we've talked about before, where it's like, well, there was mercury in the vaccines in the 80s.

And it's like, they have studied that shit three billion different ways.

And yes, they don't use it anymore because they don't need it.

But yeah, but like.

Yes, there were people who more, then they're like, well, more people died that had the vaccine that didn't.

It's like, yeah, idiot, because it's like infinitely more people getting vaccines than not so yes more people are going to die because inevitably there were just x you know a hundred times more right people it's just

i feel like they don't understand the difference between like a raw number and then like a rate right i don't know it's like they don't it's like maybe statistics not even 101 not even 100 like statistics 001 like the way i explain explain fractions to my eight-year-old is what all republican voters need explained to them, whether it's crime data, whether it's vaccine data, whether it's the age of the earth.

Like

there are just number arguments that are so beyond lost on them.

And they say, well, 12 murders in Chicago.

And I'm like, there are 100 fucking million people in Chicago.

12 murders is nothing when you have 100 fucking million people.

It's the same with the myocarditis.

Like

at men, where they go, look, men got increased risks of myocarditis with the COVID vaccine.

It's like, yes, that's true.

But you know what's more likely to give you myocarditis?

Having COVID.

Actually, COVID.

And it's actually not close.

It's like 50 or 100 times more likely.

It's way more likely.

It's insane.

It's like, yes, you have an increased risk there, but then your risk is way worse over here, but just ignore that part.

But my uncle in Arkansas, his heart exploded.

Okay, anecdotal, sir.

Well, it's like there was an episode of Joe Rogan either Thursday and Friday when he was again peddling anti-vax.

Yeah.

And he wouldn't let the other guy talk.

Yeah, he wouldn't let him talk because the other guy was like, wait a minute.

And because he was talking about tetanus.

So you don't need a tetanus shot.

It's like, oh, the fuck you don't.

Fight on a nail and tell me you don't need a tetanus shot.

The tetanus shot of all the vaccines, I think that's one of the very few that if you get the, if you get the tetanus vaccine, you are 100% immune from tetanus.

Yes, you're like completely fine.

There are very few of them that are 100% and tetanus is one of them.

Now

we don't want to save people from rusty nails.

That's the other thing is like people don't understand the point of vaccines.

There's like, they're like, well, I got it.

Still like, you fucking moron.

It's not about like, oh, instantly, I'm just impervious to this disease.

A, you need herd immunity for that to happen, like with polio and shit like that.

But then it's like,

it's about the likelihood of death after

transmission.

Like, it's.

You lost them at likelihood.

Right.

It's like the second it's like,

they're like, no, you're lying to me.

Like, I know I'm explaining to you.

There's a difference.

It's like because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's a lie.

You're here and you didn't go to the hospital.

Like, right.

but i got a cold anyway yes exactly if you got a cold you didn't you have an iron lung yeah and your body was trained to fight it off yep notice it didn't say like defeated 100 fight it off it's still there dude i can't even yeah i mean it's also there's no how it works no well that it was a new type of vaccine guys we never used

it's got the

rna dna shit they're like well it sounds like it changes who i am like no shut the up i had somebody that i who you are is not what we need in this country, man.

You should change who you are with a fucking vaccine.

I had somebody that I knew that I worked in democratic politics who's not in it anymore.

But like, I remember at the beginning was saying, Well, I don't want it to mess with my DNA.

I'm like, what the fuck?

What was he talking about?

It's just because it's RNA, DNA, they're all just too confusing.

It's going to be, oh, it's the NNA are going to get scrambled.

Like, what are you talking about?

Like, please, God, just read something for five minutes.

Don't, you don't even have to read the whole research paper.

Just look for five minutes.

Right.

That's all I'm asking for.

Well, it's like the conversation Morgan was having that you were talking about, where like the crux of that argument to me was when the guy went, Well, you're not a scientist.

And he's like, I don't have to be a scientist.

Like, yeah, you kind of do have to be a scientist to understand the do have to be a scientist.

Right.

Like, go read these studies.

They're extremely complicated.

That's the scariest, most dangerous thing as far as like, I mean, everything, but public health, especially is like we've gotten to this like critical mass of people on the wrong side of the Dunn and Kruger curve, which is like when you learn a little bit about something and you consider yourself an expert.

That's where the whole country is right now.

Like, or at least like 60-ish percent of the country is like way too far.

Like, you got to learn enough to be humbled by knowledge.

And then you go, maybe I should shut the fuck up because I don't know what I'm talking about.

I have had a few arguments with people who are anti-vax and they, it is the, it really, you shouldn't even bother.

It's agony.

It's not worth it.

My favorite.

It's like flat earthers.

It's like, there's, yeah it's like get out of my way

well it's funny because one person like

that this is the telling thing they sent me a video a youtube video because of course it's always a youtube video of this of this quote unquote doctor talking about the dangers of the vaccine so i you know i i watched it and i'm like wow this none of this feels right and then i go and i google the doctor's name oh he is a he is a disgraced doctor that nobody listens to anymore and so i pointed this out and they go oh well you're always blowing up our side of the argument i'm like are you not learning like maybe that like your source is not as good as mine, which 99.9% of doctors says vaccines are safe and effective?

Right.

And like you should get them unless you've got some underlying health condition.

Maybe you're just wrong that you're, they're always finding something with our agree to disagree, Tim.

Agree to disagree.

Imagine if this was like how they were about like plane, like aerospace safety.

Like they would never do this because like they would never get on a plane again.

They wouldn't be like, let me, let's have the planes built and then managed by people online.

Like, no, get the fucking experts to build the fucking plane.

Well, it's also funny.

There's a scene in the show, The Pit, which, if you guys haven't watched it, you absolutely should on HBO.

It's basically like ER part two, but a little different.

And there's a scene in there where, like, the doctor, there's one of the doctors, like, okay, we're going to ship you up to the ER now.

And she had already been like, I'm not wearing a mask.

And they're like, and I think she had to be like, I don't know if it's like appendicitis, so something where she had to get cut open.

And the doctor, and of course, they would never do this in real life, but like the doctor turns around and goes, so do you want me to tell the surgeons upstairs while you're open on the on the table to wear a mask or not wear masks oh absolutely because you don't believe you don't believe in this right so like you don't you don't want them to wear masks while your insides are open and then she goes

i'll take i'll take the masks

of course

yeah it's it's just like but again all of these conversations we've been having today all come back to the same thing they could get all that info that bullshit information from every single source and they and unless one of us like like with me it was somebody that i knew from home

I could burst it because I had a direct contact to that person.

But then they look at me like I'm an alien because they're like, no, we know, like, we have been told that this vaccine is deadly and that, you know, Kamala Harris eats babies and, you know, all this shit.

But because they're hearing it from, you know, Fox News down to.

I mean, like video game streamers who are mostly right-wing at this point.

And so, and newsletter, all this shit, Tim Pools and like Tucker Carl, you know, you can, you can get a steady diet of bullshit 24-7.

And because of the way algorithms work, it's not like they're shoving leftist content in front of you because you won't engage with it.

So they don't give it to you.

Right.

So it's, this is the world that we live in.

And this is why it's so important to do what we're doing, which seems like a good moment to ask people to please.

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I think the grooming is starting to come through.

They said that very quickly.

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God damn it, Tim.

They don't come fast enough.

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They don't come fast enough because I ordered a bunch on Wednesday and they're going to get here today, but they didn't get here in time for me to put it on.

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I'm also going to, we also haven't done, which I should have done at the beginning, want to make sure that everybody is participating Wednesday night on the fuck around Find Out 50 online fundraising event that Governor Newsom and Brian Tyler Cohen and us are helping to lead.

And we've got all these great guests.

Elizabeth Warren's going to be on there.

A lot of influencers will be there.

And the goal is to raise money to educate Californians on this Yes on 50 gerrymander ballot initiative that is happening.

It is very, very important.

And we need to give them money now so that they can put it on the ground.

You can RSVP by going to FAFO50, the number 50.com.

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Also, we've got a very exciting guest coming to us on Thursday.

We are going to my homeland.

We're not going, but like our guest is from my homeland, Maine.

It is Dan Kleben, who is the president of the Maine Brewing Company or Maine Beer Company, and also has just jumped into the Senate race and is looking to take on Susan Collins.

So we are very, very excited about that.

So you're going to hear me talking a lot of Maine.

I will not put the action out.

I was going to get an action out, I was going to be disappointed.

I think you should.

It got beaten out of, not, not physically, but it got out.

It got like when I went to school in Pennsylvania and the first time I said wicked, that's wicked awesome, that people were like, what the fuck are you you saying?

And because I was 19 years old and wanted to fit in, I just like got the most mid-Atlantic accent that you could possibly ever get.

So that's, that's sort of where, but if I'm home or back in Maine and had a few drinks with my friends, that's the way you would hear it.

But

we're very excited to have him on the show.

He makes the best.

His company makes the best IPA on the planet, 100%.

Which is lunch, which I don't know if we can mention it when he's on because he's a political candidate.

Probably will say it anyways.

We'll not ask him to send us any because that probably would be an an FEC violation.

But

so we're going to ask about all things main.

So if you have questions for him,

please send them to us on any channel and we'll be sure to make them.

But I'm also, guys, I haven't told you yet, but I'm going to work on

a Mainer quiz for him to or him to take.

So maybe it'll only be funny for Maine.

There's also the conversation about Bath last time.

I had so many of my friends reach out and say that was that was awesome.

Thank you for standing up for the shit.

it's all those, it's all those.

The only friends I have are the ones I've made on along on this journey, you know.

So you're saved, anyways.

Nice save.

It's it's safe, anyways.

All right, I think that does it for us today, guys.

Thank you, everybody, for joining us.

Please check out the FAFO50, buy our merch, subscribe, and we'll be back on Thursday with another episode talking all about how we beat Susan Collins, which I know everybody's very excited about.

So, until then, have a great week, everybody.

We'll talk to you soon.