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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Geek Enders.

Oh, boy.

Do I need a soundboard?

We need a soundboard. We're living in the past.

Clearly.

We're living in the past. Yeah, this is...
Oh my god.

I wish.

I wish we had these great things.

We could be our own soundboard, though. That's right.
Hold on.

Hold on, Dodger, I got this. All right.

I'm going to restart. We're going to restart.
Okay, I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Should I rerun the intro? No, no, no. We'll just, we'll just, I'll do it really quick.

We're the geekenders, and we're doing a show. We're the geek and us.
Let's go. We're the geekenders.
Here's Jesse and Dodger and Ollie too. Hey, welcome to the Geek Enders.

Perfect. Perfect.
That's it. That's the one.

That's the take. We'll use that take.
Yeah, that's it. That's the one.

Crushed it. Hello, everyone.

Welcome to Geek Enders. It is another Friday.
It's another weekend. But today,

today is a special day because this is the culmination of decades of work.

We've really, really, my entire career up until this point has led me to this.

And so

I. I am this.

That's right. That's right.

As you know, I've been going down a whole

hollow hole. Should I be doing that too?

Yeah!

Let's go!

Keep going, keep going.

No, keep talking.

I'll wait. I'll allow you to do this.
I'll allow you to

do this. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Doctors, how about you look to the

um your left, I think. My left, and maybe we could kiss on the screen

this way.

Yeah,

hell yeah!

I'll allow this for the internet. Enjoy.
Internet, that's for you. Ding.
Continue. Sorry, what were you gonna do? So anyway,

our guest this week is really the culmination of a lot of curiosity. And more importantly, just

because

she's the cutest patoot who ever patooted. Gracia Ollie, thank you for being here on our show today.

My pleasure. Thank you for inviting me.
I'm very, very happy.

I'm just now noticing you have a sword in your hair.

Yeah, it's yeah, it's

it's to keep my hair buns, you know, like how you know they would um you would make a button and then you would like put a chopstick in between them. I use a sword.
I see.

No, is that I've never had that much hair in my life, so

yeah.

What's the routine you use to so your hair can hold up a sword? Is that like a lot of conditioner?

Well, yes, a lot. I don't shower that much, too.
So, you know, having really greasy, stiff hair, it also helps. I only shower like twice a week.

Not me. I feel like sometimes two times a day.

I love the water.

Love it. Just not in big showers.

Yeah, I like showers because that's as close as I can get to the ocean without being in the ocean, which is where things try to eat you. So I don't want to.

That's cool. That's cool.

Can I smell your armpits then to make sure?

Of course. You definitely can.

That's not even a question.

Yeah, I will yes and that all day.

Anything you want to smell, I got you.

I got that good smell. I'm not even afraid.
You can get in here.

Yeah. I have consent.

Yep. Get in here.
Let's do it. It's not even

consent given. Yes.

You smell it really good down there. Yeah.

Yeah. And oh, that's everywhere.
Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's fine. Now, a little, a little birdie told me,

Ollie, that

you might

happen to have played or been a fan of a certain video game that may or may not

have both myself and Dodger in the credits.

And uh,

oh, yes,

the monster prom and monster prom series. Oh yeah,

yes, what

that's what I that's what I hear.

How did you guys know? How did I believe? I mean, we sent you keys, so like that's that's I mean, I know

so that's true.

I did get keys, yeah. So, you know, I mean,

I know

pretend not to see me,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm curious.

Do you like my game?

I don't know though. Do I actually?

I mean, I guess the characters are pretty hot, and I guess I do like the mechanics and the funny humor, but do I actually?

I guess, hmm.

Well, since you're asking so nicely, I guess I do like it. Just kidding.
I love it!

I like it!

My God!

Am I allowed to curse in the stream? You are allowed to do whatever you want. To be honest, go nuts.
I am a monster fucker. Everyone's so fucking hot!

God damn!

Thank you for giving me free keys. I get to see so many hot people.
Monsters. Yes.

Yes. I'm glad you enjoy.
I'm glad you enjoy. Did you know? Are you aware that Dodger is the monster hunter in that game? So, all those monsters you love, Dodger's the one trying to hunt them.

But,

but

in future games, datable, datable character, by all means. That's true, datable.
That's true. So,

character growth,

I think, for a Robbie.

Hot kisses

Go on, yes, yes, Dodger, hot dance.

Dodger's very hot. I cannot, I cannot handle it.
Stop this. Stop this.
You're hot too, by the way. I just don't want to make it weird for you.

Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, I got like your hot. I got the you're hot too, by the way.
I just, so, Dodger, hot. Jesse,

yeah, all right, I'll toss him a bone. You know, you're fine.
You're fine. It's all right.
You know what? Yeah, no, you're okay, too.

You're fine.

One single very manly tear. Like,

sexy.

Men who cry are

sexy plus a thousand aura.

Give it to me. No, no.
Not sure what that aura is, but it's definitely there. There's an aura.
Yeah.

Thank you for being on the show. Thanks for hanging out with us today.

Yeah.

It's the weekend. Well, for some people, not yet.
Some people got a few more hours of work, but hang in there, man. It's the weekend.
Got it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

what have you been doing this week? What are you up to?

What's going on with you?

Oh, me?

I've been playing a lot of games lately.

I don't know if you guys have ever heard of it. It's like a really really tiny indie game.
Only me and my friends play it. It's called Minecraft.

Yeah, it's kind of fun. I don't know if you guys know the game though.
I don't hear of it. What is it about? Yeah, what is it? Could you pitch it to us?

Yeah, so what happens is that you fuck monsters. Wait, I think that's a different game.
Monster Prom?

Monster Post.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Monster Prom is a game for highly intelligent adults who like a good story and having fun with friends.

There's no sexy, sexy monsters in that. What are you talking about? Those monsters are upstanding citizens.
And frankly, I love every single one of them.

Yeah, no, well,

you have a point.

Which list Monster Prom today?

Monster Prom four. Come on.

I don't know. Maybe Ollie wants to kiss a creeper.

Yes.

I mean,

I can't say, I want to kiss Dodger. So, like, the creeper thing checks out

like our kiss it would be like dynamite it would be explosive even don't you think so you can feel the sparks in your lips and it's like spoon yeah the entire it's the very last thing you'd feel in life yeah right

you could say there's value

yeah yeah fortunately I'm a zombie so you know it's all cool right that's true you just get stitched yeah but yeah if you blow apart

then then it's still a pain to, you know, that's a pain.

Even as a zombie, that's a pain. Like, you know, I'd still want to be a whole zombie than like five separate zombies, you know?

It just seems easier.

Are you doing like modded Minecraft or just like?

It's just pure vanilla, honestly. We're just, um, so uh,

I have a new server. No, not I, but basically, uh, Hololife has like a private server for all of the girls to play in.
And it's very new, so everybody's just grinding in there. It's been pretty fun.

What have you guys been doing? Have you guys been playing Minecraft too?

I play Minecraft with my kiddos sometimes.

So yeah, that's, I never got super into it, but man, kids love it. Yeah,

Minecraft.

Yeah, and it's fun going from the like, I don't don't know how to build anything to suddenly because their kid brains like expand so fast, like you blink and they're like, I've made a mansion.

I know how to make everything now. I figured out redstones.
I'm like, I don't, that's amazing. I'm very proud.
Let me ask you a question about

the sweet, sweet kiddo playing Minecraft. Yeah.
Does she get scared at night?

So the second that she starts a new world, which is basically every other time that she plays, because she she always wants to start from scratch, which I get, we make it so it's always daytime and we set it to peaceful.

So

the like things that attack you in the game don't even spawn. Oh, but she's not scared of zombies, is she?

No.

Not scared of zombies.

Very scared of creepers.

Yeah.

And the jellyfish. The weird like jellyfish things in the game.
She's jellyfish.

To me,

I always wonder how kids respond to games with a nighttime. Because when I was a kid, I remember being in my uncle Phil's apartment when he was like the cool uncle.

You know, that guy who was like in his late 30s and still like living the bachelor life. And, you know, that guy, it's like the cool uncle who had a Nintendo.

And you're like, oh, damn, I'm going to that guy's house.

So. I was over there and he had Castlevania 2.
And I remember being a kid. I don't know how old I was, but I was old enough to be afraid of Castlevania 2 at night when it was like, during the day.

Simon's Quest. Yes.
When it terrified me. Yeah, same.

I was scared of that game. And looking back now, I don't know what I was like, what was I afraid of? What is the least scary anything that ever existed? But for some reason, that was the one.

I was like.

It's different when you're a kid.

Yeah, I don't know what it was. I guess because

it was dark in his apartment and I was like, he was like, you know, you can sleep on the sleeping bag on the floor in the same living room. We just played this scary game in.

And I'd be like, do I let the zombies get me? He'd be like, I'm going to bed. I'm like, okay.
I'm just terrified. Yeah.

So, like, when you shower and then you wanted to close your eyes to wash your hair, does the Castlevania pop up in your mind? Or? You're like, no, not anymore. No, no.

It's other more mundane things. Like, boy, I hope I don't slip in this shower and hit my head and die like an idiot.

Because then I'd have that, because then all my friends would know I slipped. I was like, they found his naked body in the shower.

Some showers,

water spraying on his sweeter than others, though.

Some showers I've gone into and been like, I hope I live through this shower.

Like, sometimes they're just scary.

Sure. Yeah.

I do think with Minecraft,

it's less, it's nighttime and now I'm scared, and more it's nighttime, and now I can't fucking see, and I can't build anything. It's annoying.
I get it, I get it so bad, yeah,

feels like it halts your progress or what you were trying to do, yeah.

And it sucks even more when you're in a server because when you're in a server, you gotta wait until everybody goes to sleep, and then it'll become daytime, right?

Yeah, it doesn't help how there's 20 people online every single freaking night.

Yeah, last time that I played on a server with a bunch of other people,

the second it was nighttime, everyone was scrambling to get to bed. Like, everyone, go to bed now.

Roll over to the next open pool.

Don't do that.

Do you form like

little cohorts or towns, or do you all try to go out into the woods and make your own little compound? What is the strategy on your server?

Because I know everyone kind of wants to do their own thing and they have their own vision of what their Minecraft world is going to look like.

With so many of you on a server, what does that turn into?

Well,

so when it comes to Minecraft server,

we usually have like the main town where everybody just gathers like right around the spawn so that whenever somebody dies, they just go back to the town.

And then sometimes there are also people who want to make like their own castles, their own towns, islands, whatnot. And currently there is actually

a group of whole life talent members who separated themselves from the main island to make like a an actual aesthetic island. Yeah, yeah, that's what's been going on, but I don't know.

I don't speak Japanese, so I have no idea what they're doing, actually.

I'm Indonesian. Yeah, you're just alive for the ride.

I've been curious to see what it looks like in the end, you know, when everyone's kind of done building their stuff.

because yeah i can imagine it's like yeah here's our big metallic compound next to the mushroom house next to someone's wood shack and it's like yeah this or the volcano layer everyone's got their own idea of what's cool in minecraft and i love that about it some people they'll never get over their their you know

10 foot

wood shack because all they do is they go down like i'm looking i'm trying to like dig down deep dude i i can't make an aesthetic thing in Minecraft to save my life.

So yeah, I just dig a hole and then say,

this is where I live now.

And then I find all of the like pretty things that'll grow on like cave walls and stuff and just put them everywhere and be like, it's, it's a cool underground forest of Minecraft

and things and I love it. Or you start building in a cave.
And then you have to light the torches and fight in the back. And then you fight guys in the back, like, get out of my cave.

And then you build your, your little base in a cave.

And you live there in a cave like some sort of goblin creature that's how i do it yeah oh but that sounds fun to have like your own man cave in minecraft

i mean it's less of a man cave and more of a cave full of creepers and spiders and skeletons and terrible things but like you know there's a man in there there's at least one yeah

so you know a man cave i mean it's better than having like a giant poop floating around the server we have way too many of those. Giant poops? Giant poops?

Why was that added to Minecraft? Was that a later patch?

Hey, you said vanilla Vinecraft, but I don't recall seeing it.

Don't know that there's been giant poops in it. Well, you know, in Hololive, we call our members talents for a reason.
They're talented in different aspects. And one of those talents is pooping?

Someone's just a good pooper?

Can I be in Hololive? I've got that as a talent. I'm already, that's like,

I can do that.

I love it. I can make that happen.

It's not even.

Can you make it fly?

Yeah.

I've been making poops fly for for years, for decades even.

That's not a thing.

I'm like a poop mancer over here. I got, like, I got...

I got the skills. If I was an avatar last airbender, that would be my skill.
That's all I got.

A poop bender. A poop bender.
That's the worst. That's literally the worst.

Really awful, yeah. If you could imagine, like

Cora going up, like, Cora's like, I'll stop you, Jesse. I'm like, no, you won't.
I've mastered a new bending avatar. And just like, poos start flowing around.
She'd be like, no, I'm, you know what?

No, no, I'm done.

No.

I think. You know what? I'm done with this whole avatar thing.
I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, she just walks away.
Yeah.

Your powers is that you don't need laxatives. That's so cool.
It's a skill. Yeah, it's a skill.

I don't.

Never mind. I don't want to think about that anymore.
You don't want to think about it? Have I made it weird?

Do you not want to think about it? No, it's fine. Do you not want to think about your friend Jesse Cox and his poops?

I was more thinking about like,

oh, he said you'd never need a laxative. And I was like, so that means you would have have to feel the poop inside of your body and pull it out.
And I don't like that.

With magic

with your bending power, you'd be able to. No, no, no.

It doesn't have to be just mine. Colon.
And I don't know how I feel about that. It doesn't have to be mine.
That's the power of it. You don't understand.

I'm sitting there. There's a bender, right? A bender across me.
Fire and

whatever. There's a bender across from me.
You don't have to describe this. No, I do.
I do. I'm just taking you.
No, I do. I do.
I do. I do.
I do.

So there's a bender across from me, and the bender's like, I'll defeat you, Jesse. And I'm like, will you? And then I don't use my poo or poo in the area.
I use their. So I make them poop themselves.

And then they're like, ooh, and then I win. What are they going to do? Fight me with crappy pants? No.
That's how I do it. Depends on the stakes.

That's not enough stakes. That's not enough stakes.
I'm like,

and they're like, oh, and that's it.

Shit, your pants now. And then the fight's over.
Then the fight's over. They're embarrassed, which is really the greatest battle of all.

If I can embarrass my enemy, then truly I'm the greatest warrior. I didn't just beat them.
I shamed them. You know what I'm

realizing? Someone's pitched this as a show before. I don't think that's what I'm saying.
They have?

100%.

100%.

Somebody's gone into a meeting at Adult Swim and been been like, I have an amazing idea.

I don't think so. I think this is the first time anyone ever has said this in the history of words.
They want to control whether or not someone poops themselves. Yes.

Absolutely. Someone's done that before.

I mean, when you think about it, in the show, they did have blood bending, which is like water bending.

So you could think that.

You know, if you can bend blood, you could like mess with the body in other ways. So it's not that that far off.

That's true. What about booger bending, though? Ooh, then I'd use my own.
In that case, I wouldn't use other people's boogers. I'd be like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, like that.

Like a machine gun.

Yep. Yeah.
Yeah. And people be like, they'd be ducking behind card, like cardboard boxes or behind the, they'd flip tables over and be blasting the room and be like, buenos dias, children.

Yeah.

This is a show. Print it.
This is you.

Print it, guys.

Yeah. Give me money.
Write it down.

Write that down. These are gold, gold ideas.

You know, probably not.

You know, now that I think about it, they sound terrible.

You know, when we get on a conversation and you really want to take a moment to be like, how did we get here?

Wait, how did we get here?

Minecraft.

Minecraft. Yeah.

How did it go from Minecraft to Booger Machine Gun? Floating Poops! Floating Poops. We got there.
We got to the top. We got there.
Right.

Yeah. Yep.
Yep.

I'm still blown away that floating poops got to Booger Machine Gun.

That's a whole path as well. That was all you, dude.
You chose this as the action for Booger bending.

Damn right. Amazing.

Jesse, what have you been playing this?

So,

as you know, I'm obsessed, obsessed with the Dinosaur Warriors franchise. It's one of my favorites.
I love

the overwhelming sense of power without really truly having to do anything. It's a big, I'm a big fan of that.
I love swinging a weapon, and a thousand guys go, yo! It's great. Big fan.

So they,

first off, they released Dinosaur Wars Origins, which I'm still playing. I'm having a blast.
It's a lot of fun. But then

they just shadow dropped last week

Dynasty Warriors. I guess it's called Warriors Abyss.

Or maybe it's Abyss Warriors. One of the two.
I don't know. But I've been playing it non-stop.
It is

everything.

Oh. It's

I'm playing on PlayStation right now, but it's

imagine if

Vampire Survivors, Hades, and Dynasty Warriors had a baby. That's kind of the vibe.
So it's a 2.5D.

It's like a 2.5D roguelike Dynasty Warriors experience where you go to hell and

the demon king is like, hey, man,

I got overthrown and I need you, one of the greatest warriors of history to help me take back my kingdom. And you're like, okay.
And so you select any.

For Dynasty Warriors fans, you'll remember back in like Dynasty Warriors 3, 4, 5, 6, that era, they were just adding so many characters, just

ridiculous amounts of characters. All of them are back for this.

And then all the samurai warriors are back. So now you have, I don't know, like 81 characters to choose from.
And

you have

81 weapons to unlock. and like all these different things that you can do to play and there's difficulty settings and there's different synergies so um

the good good news is for everyone who's curious, because like 81 characters, 81 weapons, all these items to unlock, none of that's an achievement.

Like unlocking the characters is an achievement, but getting all the weapons, not an achievement. Playing through it with every character, not an achievement.
Literally, it's very...

I almost have all the achievements. The only ones I'm missing is I have to do 1.5 million damage and I have to.

beat the game a few more times with different heroes. Other than that, I'm done with, I have like 78% of the achievements.
Loving it.

I'm a big fan of easy achievements so that's why i'm playing this like crazy but the basic gameplay loop of this one is you start in the first level of hell with your hero whoever it is and some of them have you know ranged attacks or different aoe things or you know it's just like he has that vampire survivor's road like vibe and then you

do like

like floor after floor so floor one's like kill 30 guys floor two is kill 60 guys floor three is like kill 120 like that kind of thing but then

after you beat a floor, a little, you know, a little circle of stuff opens up and there's a tree. And when you go to the tree, you can select a new warrior to join you.

And that warrior will give you some kind of buff, very similar to Hades, where you would get a, you know, a boon from the gods. And so in this, you're getting a boon from...

one of the other dynasty warriors or samurai warriors and what happens is that snowballs so the more you the deeper you go the more you play as you get more warriors to join you you form synergies so a great example is one of them being um

if you are playing as a guy from shoe and you are like i don't know leo bay or someone if you get the rest of the people from your group then you'll get bonuses or maybe you want to do fire things uh so you start like stacking fire and so eventually you'll be very good at setting guys ablaze or you can do ice or you know you can do strength or speed or whatever there's a bunch of different combinations and you just

keep plugging ahead and murdering guys. And there's boss fights and all sorts of weird little cool things in it.
And then when you beat it, it's like, hey, good job. There's a harder difficulty now.

Go back and play that.

And then you just keep doing your thing over and over and over. And it's very simple, very fun.
I've just been playing like one game a night. And

not only have I unlocked Lubu, I'm using Lubu, and I got Lubu's weapon, and that man hits, and I, it takes two seconds to get through some levels. People die so quickly, it's great.

I love it. I'm a big fan.
So that's what I've been playing. I've been enjoying it tremendously.
Dynasty Warriors and Dynasty Warriors. Yeah.

Nice, nice, nice.

I tried out...

Oh my god. Is it called Lost Records? Oh, oh, I did play that.
Yes, the new Don't Nod game. Yeah.
Yes. I played that as well.

Oh, the Bloom and Rage one? Yes. Yes.
Bloom and Rage. Yeah.

I haven't finished the first because it's in chunks. It's being released in tapes, quote unquote.

I haven't finished the first tape yet, but it was cracking me up because the reviews that are negative are like, oh, there's so much just like teen drama garbage.

That's the point. I think it was going to be the game.
This is the game. Yeah.

That's why I'm playing it. I love it.
Yeah. I think it's, i i really like it so far it is um

in the tradition of stephen king stories

in that it is a tale about four young women in the 90s becoming friends over a summer and getting caught up in like summer girl hijinks but at the same time

Something's going on.

The story is bookended by

the characters in 2022 meeting up in the town once again.

And

they're going to meet because something

happened during that summer. And it feels like, and I'm not going to spoil anything because I don't know that I'm further than Dodger, to be honest.

People were laughing because I spent three and a half hours playing and then got the opening credits.

I spent three hours playing the game and then got the logo and was like, that was just the intro. What am I doing? So I'm playing through it very slowly.
Well,

yeah, it has the same sort of like

Ollie.

I don't know if when you play games that have collectibles, if you become kind of like obsessive over them, but like it's like the other don't nod games where there's collectibles, but this one, it's like

so many because the character that you're playing loves to film everything.

And so

you basically make like collections of videos

that you find out in the wild.

So basically every location that you go to, when you take out your camera, there's stuff everywhere that the game will ping for you to be like, I don't know, maybe film this.

So you can really just spend forever

stuff.

But that does sound like don't not.

Honestly, it's so fun though. You can really, the game will do that classic thing where it's like, I don't know, maybe you should move on.
And I'm like, no.

And it there's moments in the game where I genuinely feel like I missed something. Like early on, you're at the video store filming stuff and you're filming like graffiti and you can film anything.

And there's two girls having a conversation. And one of the girls is like, I'm the ice cream stand's going to close.
You better get your ice cream. And you're just like, man, ice cream sounds good.

I was like, there's so much more to film, though. I got to go around this corner.
Like, what's that? How do I film it? So eventually the ice cream store just closes. Eventually,

it didn't actually. It actually closes.
Yeah. I was wondering the same thing.
I was like, if you go there earlier. Do you get it? Can you get the ice cream? Do you get an ice cream?

I don't know. I have no answers.

So, Ollie, when you play it, please get an ice cream.

Yeah, you must get an ice cream store. We go there before she's like, all right, I'm closing now.
I got you. I'll do it for both of you.
I'll get the ice cream. Thank you, poor one out.

What's crazy is that there's some after that scene with the ice cream, you go back to the exact same area. So you have the chance to film again, but now some things are blocked off.

So there's an area where you could get to, but when the ice cream scene happens, now you can't get to that area.

So I was like, so it's kind of give and take, or maybe you just have to be really smooth and weave through the scene. But I also just missed.

I went online because I was like, I feel like I missed a lot. I got to know what I missed.
There's a whole ass area where you can find a D and D game and you can find like there's so much hidden.

I was like, what? Yeah.

You did? I missed it completely. I was too busy filming ants.
Oh, by the way, did you, did you?

Yes, there was ants on an ice cream cone, and I thought it was beautiful, so I filmed it.

What Dodger didn't mention, I think, is really fun about the game, is all those things you film.

If you film certain things that tick off check marks, you can then go into the menu and edit together the home video of that moment.

And so you have this girl Swan's home videos where you can make and clip your own videos.

And depending on what you film, it'll broadcast it back to you in that, you know, four by three aspect ratio with the tracking stuff from the 90s.

And the best part is, is it's based on what you filmed. So I realized halfway through, I just wanted to film like a horror movie.
And so I have the craziest angles. I'm filming weird stuff.

At one point, I have, it's like nature footage, but it's all really weird nature footage from strange angles. And then at the end, it's just two squirrels having sex.

What's this? I'm a class.

What's funny about that is the two girls, the two squirrels having sex scene that like your character comments on it because it's really funny.

And then later on, when all the girls are having a conversation about like the craziest thing they saw that day, you can literally, a thing pops up and says, like, I saw two squirrels having sex.

I laughed so hard. I was like, this game is amazing.
Like, this is so fun. That's great.

Yeah, Jesse kind of touched on it, but you are basically playing like two time periods at the same time. So it cuts back and forth, and you get to make choices in both.

So there's some stuff where you're like, well, I know that this isn't going to happen because I've seen XYZ in the future. But you're still able to make choices for like future you versus past you.

I think it does a really good job of creating intrigue about like

what

happened that summer. Yeah, it's very it's very 90s 90s horror teen.
There's definitely like a like um

an X-Files vibe, which it's touched in in the game.

They mention that a lot, but it has like an X-Files vibe where something happened and I don't know what it is. It could be

alien, cryptid dead body or all three i don't girls having sex yeah it could be

sex yeah something really messed up happened to the point where in the future they've had to gather together again because potentially something got out or someone knows or something happened like it is a weird vibe also because you're filming every so often you'll film something and your camera will be like

and the screen will get crazy and you're like what the hell is that? And when you angle it at certain things, it just gets weird. And I'm like, what's that mean? What's that about? How does that work?

I have no answers. I couldn't tell you.
I'm not there yet. But there's something weird that if you watch the trailer for the game, it very much has that 90s Stephen King.

We're a bunch of kids and we're having a summer blast. And then we found something and it ruined our lives forever.
Like that's... It was really wholesome.
What went wrong?

Wow.

Yeah. So pretty excited about it.
Definitely recommend that one. The next part comes out in April, I believe.
And then that's it. So it's like a two-parter.
So I'm pretty excited. Yeah.

I also realized hilariously last week on this show, Dodger had a candy necklace on. And I was thinking to myself, where on earth does a person get a candy necklace?

I didn't know they made candy necklaces still. It was clearly from the gift box.
From Lost Records. From Lost Records.
What?

Yes.

I got a gift a little.

I'm realizing this is called something different all over the world.

We call them fanny packs in America. They call them bum bags in England, but it's a because fanny's different, right, right? I get it.
Yeah, yeah.

Like a pack to go around your waist, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Inside is like a bunch of stickers and pins, and it's very cute.

And then there was a candy necklace in there, and I was like, I want to wear that so bad. So I did.

That's so cool.

What the heck? You don't see me that often. Wow.

Are you not going to wear one, Jes?

What was yours?

Somewhere in this office, actually. I love a good fanny pack.
I'm a big fan of that.

Oh, the candy necklace.

Oh, the candy necklace?

Let's just say it had a run-in with my stomach and did not survive.

Did you wear it or did you just eat it?

You know, like in the movies when there's like a, like a killer, but he's like also religious. And so he does the thing with like the rosary as he's like.
Do you use it like a rosary? Yeah.

But I was sitting here like an evildoer, just like.

And numbs on.

And I was just, you know, but I was like watching TV and just like, you know, sitting there. If I had a white cat that I could pet at the same time, I'd definitely be a Bond villain.
Yeah.

Wow. That's so cool.

Another game that I played, only the demo's out right now, but I'm so excited about this game. I played the demo over and over.

It's Drop Duchy. If either of you guys are

drop duchy,

drop duchy.

Go look it up. Go look it up.
I found it. I found it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like it uses the mechanics of Tetris,

but you are, it's, it's like a tactics game. So each board is you in a separate like battle battle to

maintain like control over an area.

And so it has like a deck builder sort of element where like you can choose to have specific pieces at your disposal while you're playing. Certain pieces will make military.

Other pieces will help you with resources. And as you play, you're able to unlock like new pieces.

So the longer I played, I was able to get like river sort of buildings that would interact with water. It's super fun.

And it has like this rock, paper, scissors mechanic where once you've filled up the board with pieces, however you want,

and you know, like different buildings will interact with different like um

terrains.

So once you've filled it up, however you want or however it wound up because it's Tetris, then there's like a rock, paper, scissors mechanic to the actual military part where you decide then, okay, so you have this many archers, you have this many like like swordsmen, and they have also have swordsmen and they also have axe throwers.

I have no idea what the axe is supposed to represent, but they all interact differently.

So you can be like, okay, the arrows are good against this, so I'll attack with that, and then I'll join forces with this one, and then attack this, and then, and you try to basically give yourself the best advantage you can to come out in the positive on the back end.

It's so fun. I don't think I'm explaining it very well, but it's so a fun game.
It actually looks fun. I added it to my library already.
Yeah, I'm looking this up right now.

Yes. If you like Tetris or things that sort of take Tetris mechanics and try to make them fun, I love this game.
I think it's so fun.

I'm really excited to play like the actual release of it because the tree, the like up, not upgrades, but like the unlock tree to get more and different types of terrains and things is way bigger than what it is in the demo.

Wow.

It does look really interesting.

It's fun.

It's a very fun game. I like it.
It looks neat.

What else have you been up to, Ollie?

What are you doing?

I feel like I can't compare because I've just been playing really mainstream

games like

Malatro. You guys know Balatro? Of course you do.
It's all over the internet.

I've been very obsessed with it. I've never gotten into Balatro, but I like watching other people play Balatro.

Oh, it's,

I'm kind of similar to Jess in a way, because I love the achievements that you can achieve through Balatro. It's very quick and easy.
And it's also, I feel like they targeted...

the market towards Indonesian really well too because even in Indonesia we have this thing called firus gila balatro which literally just translates to crazy virus where you play balatro every single fucking day i have that virus right now i am contaminated i should not be talking to people because if i do i'll be talking about the jokers and the strategies do you guys like flushing i like flushing

Go on both the toilet and poker.

Yeah, we've already established I'm in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't think we've ever, I don't, we've had people talk about Bellatro a couple of times on the show, but I don't think anybody's ever tried to like describe what the game is.

Do you want to take a crack at describing Balatro to people?

Cracks my knuckles, cracks my neck, cracks my booty. Okay, so Balatro.

It is a game, it is basically a poker game where you try to win as many tips by putting down poker hands. There's a bunch of them, straight flushes, flush, straights,

let's say um pairs two pairs uh whatever poker hand it is that you can put down and um there's this thing called jokers the jokers basically boost the amount of tips and it multiplies your points also and you're going to try and defeat all of these bosses by achieving like a target goal

It's basically like poker, but you try to manipulate the game as much as you can with the boost, with the um there's territ cards also, uh, the tarot cards, there's also um planet cards, celestial cards.

Basically, we're just trying to boost the amount of jokers and the cards that we have so that we can win and get to the top.

And when we win, of course, they get achievements, and that's really fun. I like it.

Do you

like in the grand scheme? Do you have a lot of achievements to go?

Or

um,

compared to the community,

um, um, mine is, um,

I would not say it'd say a lot, but it is an honest work. I did it myself.
My working hard. That's how I feel about Slay the Spire.

People will ask me about how much time I've spent in Slay the Spire, and the answer is a lot. I've played that game so much.

Do I even remotely have all the achievements? No, because I'm not amazing at the game. I just enjoy.

I get you.

You know, sometimes sometimes you're like yeah i've sunk hundreds of hours into this game but no i will never be like up here right

i mean it's kind of fun to just play games that you suck at i like playing those games yeah those are most games for me honestly

and i have a great time I'm doing great.

And other than that, lately, I've been playing...

I hope this is okay to mention on Twitch. I've been playing the Honeycam series.

Oh, the Honey Pop. Honey Pop.
Yeah.

Yep. Been there.
Both Dodge and I've gone down that rabbit hole.

Yeah. I really, really liked the first game.
Did not really get into the second game, though.

It's pretty extreme, I would say, yeah.

The first game is fun.

It's simple. Yeah.
It's simple. You know, the second game, they were like, we're going to do like 15 different mechanics.
I was like, man.

remember the good old days where you just matched three and you like

made out with a girl? Like, back in my day.

Things were simple.

I mean, in the second version, you get to make out with two girls. So that's the

right. True.
That's, you know, that's a fantasy, though. I'm at two, that seems like it's work.
That's work.

You got it. One is fine, y'all.
One is two?

Now is greedy. That's just greedy.
That's a lot of work. You can't guarantee you'll be there for both of them.
Like, that's not, you know.

There's only the two games, right?

Is there more than two? Oh, there's Honey Pop, Honey Pop 2 Double Dates, and then there's Honey Cam Studio, which

basically,

yeah, you guys know that one, right? Yeah. They need to make honey dudes, and I want to be in that.
I want to be a honey dude.

I'd be like,

I would be, I would be in that. I'd be like, and oh, oh, and all the voices I'd hire all the best like sexy voice actors, right? But then I would also be in it just as a guy named Gringus.

And he's like,

ladies, how are you?

And here's the thing. No matter what happens, at the end of every date, you just get Gringus.

You can do whatever you want. You can, but then Gringus shows.

Well, there is a magic element to honey pop right so maybe the magic in in the honey dudes game is just like and then gringa shows up as like

no matter what I'm here for my smooshes

have produced I don't think legally we can but uh call me honey pop team Yeah, no, let's make honey dudes the let's make honey dudes

curse making honey dudes honey dudes but then the mongoose of honeydew. Come on, it writes itself.
I thought that was a joke.

Oh, yeah, no, that's what it was.

Definitely. Hell yeah.

I'm like two steps ahead of you. I'm very smart.

Four heading. Hell yeah.
Yeah, I'm so smart.

Don't even worry. Honey dudes, produce honey loads.
Come on. This is the easiest thing.
This is easy marketing. This is so simple.

We can make a billion dollars the internet's all horny for for like sexy dudes that's how it works i've seen it happen we could make billions

and then invest that into into honey dudes two honey loots it's all coming together and then honey honey honey dudes three hard rain and then honey dudes four the revenging and honey dudes five

payback and then honey dudes six the last ride Oh my God. It's going to be amazing.
I like the idea of this slowly just turning into Fast and the Furious. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

202 dudes. 2022.
202 dudes.

Whoa.

Yeah. That's going to be amazing.

Yeah, we should make that.

I'm down for it. I'm down for the next phase of my life to just be producing those, just those games.
Those sorts of games. Yeah.
Yeah.

if you need a you know a better tester i'm right here i will send you you'll get the codes oh yeah don't you worry you'll get those codes i need to get good feedback

i love that you live in a world where this is definitely happening

this really terrible idea to the future dude yeah yeah yeah you're already living i can't wait to play this game this real ass game yeah you're 3008 we're 200 late. We're just, we suck.

You got to figure it out.

Yep, yep. I don't know.

I feel like if they don't,

like, what are they making right now?

That's amazing.

I don't know. What are they making?

Come on.

Do you think they're like, we're crafting the greatest RPG, an 800-hour epic? Like, is that what we haven't heard from them in a while? Like, you know what?

I'm not that into making booby games anymore. I really just want to make a high fantasy game about archery.
Yeah. Archery? Why archery, though? I don't know.
I'm speaking from their perspective.

I don't know. And then, and then Jesse's like, but where is the ding-dong game? And they're like,

you're right. We'll make the ding-dong game first.
We failed. We lost who we were.
We got caught up in.

We forgot who we came from. Yeah.
Instead of asking what we should do. Right.
What fools we've been. Yeah, yeah.
know. They're all sitting in the boardroom.
We spent millions on this archer game.

And now the fans, they just won ding-dongs and boobies.

Then why don't you just put two and two together? It's like archery ding-dongs. Ding-dong archery.
That's the. Yeah.

How much you want to bet if we typed in ding-dong archery, we would find a game over on itch or something that exists that is like

you shoot little

archery. There's got to be something similar to it that exists.

Well, that's the look.

That's the look, all right.

Okay, literally,

the very first link is an itch link, but it's called Ding Dong Doinker.

Doinker! Ding-dong-doinker magic archery.

Told you. That was incredible.
There's no new ideas. There's no...
We over here think we're clever. It's already been done.

Ding-dong-doinker magical archery. What can I say?

It has four stars. Yep.

It has even more stars than my local hotel.

Okay. That's so cool.
Amazing. Love that.
That's great. I love when we come up with a really good pitch.

Yes. And then it exists.
And and then it's real, yeah, yeah, or we come up with a really good pitch, and then a few years later, it exists. Either way, right? I'm

not lost at all, yeah, no, yeah, we won't see a cent from that, but it exists in the world, and you know what? I'm grateful,

yeah,

how many times have you guys encountered those types of situations where you're like, this is pretty cool, and then you type it out, and it's right there every day.

There was a game that we like,

we

really just went on a deep dive, like elaborate, like planned out a game alive. And then a few years later, that basically that same game just existed.
Yeah.

And we were like, wow. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.

Look, we give these ideas out for free. And I'm fine with that.

I'm an idea man. I can't enact anything.
I don't have talent. But I do have ideas.
And I want to use those ideas to create cool stuff. And if anyone wants to make it, great.

I'm here for it.

Word.

Yep. Yep.
Absolutely.

A free country.

Get out of here with that. Cool! You did not have that.

It's a sound of freedom, Jesse. It's not a laughing matter.
Oh, right. Right.
My bad. My bad.
Are you seriously? Dude, these colors don't run. You're right.
What a fool I've been.

Yeah. The only other thing that I've been playing is I'm still trying to figure out how team fight tactics works.
I'm still

playing TFT. I'm getting better, I think, because I pretty much always play with my friend Summer, and I'm able.
to not die immediately against summer now. So that's improvement, I think.

i'm realizing because apparently every season they change all the characters yes yeah they change everything

so

memorizing the characters or what role they are doesn't do anything for me because sometimes they even change roles sure

but the items stay the same

so apparently the thing if you're if you're a new tft player Apparently, the most important thing to try and like memorize-ish is the items

is that Yortles are the best and all

are the best yes that's a fact and also that uh

yeah which things go together to make which items and who those items are for what those items do and where to put them uh

yeah it's it's rough yeah but but a good example of the dinosaurs game i was talking about it has that same sort of mechanic where

hey when you're playing tft and it's like all right well i need to combine you know, these characters together for this synergy, or this thing happens, or, you know, I have three tank buffs.

Like, that same thing is kind of how the Dinosaurs game operates to give people an indication of what that's like. Yeah.

So you're like, oh, yeah, if I get these guys together on a team, that gives me plus four to this thing.

Or if I have these, and then, like I said, it snowballs. Very similar to TFT, where at first, you're like, okay, I got this one combo, but I'm going to try to go for this one angle.

And then it snowballs to eventually, hopefully you win.

We'll see. Most TFT is either you stomp your opponent or you watch yourself slowly lose.
There is no like, and then I just sucked and I was done. No, it's like you slowly watch yourself fail.

Agonizing death. Yeah, yeah.
Wow. Great.

Yeah.

And there's a hope. There's like a hope you'll come back.
It's very gambling oriented where it's like, this, I feel like I could do this.

If I just keep going I can win Maybe I'll get the pool I need and just like losing a gambling You're just like no God, it's go I'm losing it all. Oh no I have

no money and no units. That's fine.
Yep. No, I'm happy about it

When the real way to win is you sit on your money as long as you can That's really on your money Yeah, warm it with your buns get that good bucks get the good that good bucks I don't even know what that means.

Get that good books. Get them good books good books

yeah but what about the other shitting games like i said

the

marvel rivals have you guys been playing that i tried to play that today because it updated didn't it

it updated today i didn't know that the the torch and the thing human torch and the thing got added either today or yesterday

i think

I don't know. It's been a while since I played it too.
So

I haven't played it for about a month. And today I was like, apparently they're adding new babies in.
So I should update it and play it.

And it turns out, apparently, part of my computer really hates that game.

Oh.

And so I kept trying to open it and it would crash. And I was like, this is such a weird issue, isn't it, chat? And they were like, oh.

If you have this specific CPU, then that might be the issue. And it turns out.

Yeah. So that's really neat.

For real?

Yeah, so that's unfortunate. Everyone was like, you should just get a new computer because that's probably causing lots of issues.
And I was like, I've only looked a year. What do you mean?

Oh, my phone's getting laggy. Then just buy a new one.
Oh, I'm homeless. Then buy a house.
Wow.

Very helpful.

All these insights. Why didn't I think of it before? I used to build my own PCs.
I don't do that anymore because I don't have the patience for it.

And I also don't like when something goes wrong and I have to just look in the mirror and be like, you did this, idiot, you know?

So it's nice to get a pre-built because then you could be like, ah, Jeff at store messed up the computer.

But in this moment, I'm like, it would be really nice to just

like find out what isn't going to cause an issue and like build it.

But you would think that if you're paying for someone to assemble it and put it together, that, you know, Jeff would know what's up when Jeff put it together.

But that's not necessarily the case all the time. Like, I, I can't stress the amount of times I've made a computer versus bought a computer and the bought computer, in theory, should just be better.

And then somehow has 80 mysterious problems. And because I didn't put it together, I don't know what those problems could be.
I'm like, I got to tear the thing apart to figure it out.

And then if, then if you tear it apart, they're like, sorry, you've voided the warranty now that you've gone in there and messed with it, idiot. You're like, oh, no.

Anyway, sorry.

What did you want to say about rivals, Ollie? I didn't mean to make it about me and my computer.

No, it's wow.

I suddenly can talk. Okay.

The update is pretty big, isn't it? 15 gigabytes? Holy damn. Yeah.
Huge. I'm those types of players that plays Marvel Rivals, not because I'm a fan of Marvel.

I mean, my friends display it, and I just need people to play with me too.

I think it's a really good,

hey, I see that you're playing. Can I play with you? You want to hang out? Sort of game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As someone who doesn't play, or I guess delve into the Marvel world a lot, who are your favorite characters? Who do you like to play? Who do you connect with as in rivals?

As a Marvel character?

Um, um, um, um, um, I mean, I feel like we don't need names, you can also just describe them to us, which is equally fun.

I like it when the shark has legs, I think that's adorable. Yeah, I don't know how he's relevant in the comics, though.
Like, how does that even work? How does he have legs?

I have no idea what Jeff the Shark is from, to be honest. Do you, Jesse?

Uh, I mean, yeah

is he a comic boy it's yes he's a goof he's like purely a goof in the comics it's a deadpool thing uh anything that's weird

anything that's weird is from the deadpool verse so a gwen pool or a you know a deadpool thing it's from that it's from that universe so it's it's specifically goofy for the purpose of it being goofy yeah right oh i thought it was kind of like a full metal alchemist kind of sorcery i was like hmm like a really sad backstory.

Yeah,

yeah, it's a little boy and a shark, and they just, yeah, they got melded together, right? Right, right.

Or even worse, it's twins with shark. It's two boys.
It has four legs, right?

That would explain why it's so chaotic. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Little chaotic boy.

Adorable, though.

Yeah. Good to see you.
So, are you, are you exclusively a Jeff Maine?

I am.

Uh, um, I'm basically a healer all day long. It doesn't matter if it's Jeff, if it's an invisible woman, if it's Luna Snow.
Luna Snow's pretty fun.

I love how whenever your friends are dying, you just start dancing and suddenly they come back to life. That sounds very on brand, you know? Yeah.
With what we have, yeah.

Yeah, I love, I love healing as well. I mostly,

again, I haven't played in like a month, but I love playing Rocket and Loki.

But I realized really quickly that I probably needed to figure out how to play a tank.

Like sometimes people just refuse to be tanks and then everybody's having a bad time.

Yeah,

recently I've been getting into Groot too. And maybe it's because of pop culture.
I've only seen Groot as baby Groot. So I was very shocked when I learned that Groot was actually fully grown.

You're a grown-ass man. Yeah.
Yeah.

Aren't you supposed to be an infant? What the heck?

Where's my baby? Where's my baby boy?

Yeah.

So that's been happening.

Do you play a thing like this?

No, I have to not play PvP things anymore. I am...
A saltmonger. I exist in the salt mines of my soul.
I can't play anything.

I played co-op, like I played a co-op version of Civ 7 and literally yelled at the person I was playing with. I was so mad.

And I had to apologize. I was like, dude, I'm so sorry.
That wasn't, I didn't mean, that's like not me. That wasn't me.

I was just, I got so salty and there was no one else to yell at. And you were right there, dude.
You were like, right, and you were, you were winning. So what am I going to do? Not yell at you?

Like, so I was mad at the game, not you. I'm, I'm so, I get that way.

If there's an ounce of PvP, I become a, like, a pillar of salt. I can't help it.
It's just who I am. I'm like, hmm.
So I just don't do it. I just don't play any.

I just, because I know what would happen. You're over here talking about like, no one wants to be a tank.
I would be fine. I'll be in a tank.
Shit, I'll be in a tank and I'd be like, you guys suck.

This team's terrible. And I got to be the tank.
And I don't want to be the tank. You're ruining my day.
I only got a few hours to play. Yeah.
That's what I would do. So I don't do that.

I negate negate it out of my life.

You turn into like the seven grade C's with all of the salt in you. Whoa.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I am. You can float.
Yeah.

If you puddled me up, you'd float. Yeah.

Have you played competitive at all, Ollie, on Marvel Rivals?

I have. And

I don't like competitive. But for the sake of people keep on calling me bots.

Doesn't that mean that you're really good if people are like botting

it just means that I'm so bad that they think that I'm just a bot

like the opposite issue

oh buddy

oh no yeah like sometimes they'd be like bot as a question mark or sometimes like the winning team they'd be frustrated they're like ah we got a bot guys can't believe it no

I'm real

i just get the game

and

yeah everybody that i know that plays competitive uh is always having a bad time so i

i don't bother with it anymore genuinely feels like every anytime we talk to anyone playing any game competitively They always sound like they're having the worst experience of their life. There is.

And I truly believe that's because we know people who are not good at these games. I'm convinced that most good players don't have time to like talk to us about the game.
They're busy playing.

Everyone else

who is playing any competitive game, they're just like,

I got to keep playing, but like, it makes me so mad. I just don't want to, I just don't want to play.
I just can't. They're like, why are you playing? Because I love it.

It's like, it doesn't sound like you love it. No, I love it.
It's so much fun. Oh, so good.
You're like, I have a friend. I won't name them.

I might watch this later. Sam, just give me the initials.

It's not Sam. No, but literally won't play.
If a group of friends is like, hey, do you want to come in and play with us? We're just going to be quick playing.

They're like, no, unless you're playing competitive, I don't want to play. But then we'll always complain about how terrible competitive is and how they're not having any fun.

I'm like, you could quick play.

You could just play with us where there's no

I don't get it. I don't understand.

I think you both are saying the quiet part a little bit too loud. So loud for the people in the back.

What do you mean? What?

Yeah.

It's a fun game, though. Yeah, Marvel Arrival is pretty cool.
I like the graphics and the design that goes into the game. It has so many soul.

Yeah.

I like how the characters interact, like when you're waiting to go into the game and stuff, the way they all talk to each other. And I think that's really fun.

Wait, wait, wait. Ollie, have you, do you, you don't watch or interact with Marvel anything? Do you? No.

Oh, my goodness.

Like, I think the last Marvel that I've ever...

Well, I have watched

the Spider-Verse, the two movies. Yeah, I think I've watched that.
Very good. And the original Spider-Man.

That's it. That's about it.
Deadpool.

All right. I need to know.
Hold on. I need to know what you mean by this.

Who is the original Spider-Man?

I don't even know the name of the actor.

The pizza guy, the one who dances on the stairs.

Okay, no, we're good. All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine.
Pizza guy, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right. I just wanted to

make make sure, because when you say original, I was like, hold on, who do you mean? Because there's a lot of Spider-Man.

Toby's the original. Toby wins.
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. These are Spider-Man, but it's Toby.

To be honest, I can't find myself watching the other Spider-Man. Like, Tom Holland, he's a cool guy, but I don't think I can watch Spider-Man with him.
I prefer Toby. Is he too baby?

He feels too baby.

I need more of the sass. And

what's the other guy?

Andrew Garfield. Yeah.
Andrew Garfield is what I would say. He's too handsome for Spider-Man.
Spider-Man needs to be a bit more geeky, but also hot, but not too hot. So, you know, Toby.

Andrew Garfield.

Yeah. Yeah.

He's like fine. He's not hot.
But he's like fine. And that's Peter Parker.

Peter Parker and his model/slash actress girlfriend.

I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. If anything, I like it more.
The fact that he's not hot is awesome. That's great.
The fact that he's not hot is what makes him hot. You get me? You feel me? It's the imperfection.

I totally feel you. Like, I've said that for years.

Yeah. That's how I feel all the time.
And I think more people should feel that way about me. So

I agree with you.

Completely.

Yeah.

For real.

Like, you're going to get reached out to by these actors. Like, let me on that show to defend myself.

Yo, I would love. Andrew Garfield seems like he'd be a great time.
Yeah.

Tom Holland, I want to drink his fake beers with him. And Toby, Toby, my dude,

we should like, we should like go get sushi or something. I bet Toby has stories.
I would love that. I would sit down and be like, I just listen and be like, You're great.
You're wonderful. You know,

he's like play. So, like, this could happen.
He could get sneaky with these people. Yeah.
Yeah. If you need him, can I ask for his autograph, please?

Um, first off, yes. Second off, you could be like, hold on, I have to call my friend Ollie really quick.

Yeah, I would, um,

I would get you that signature, but that would also sign my name too, just to ruin it so you couldn't resell it.

I'd be like, you'd be like, Toby McGuire and his best bud, Jesse Cox.

And then you'd be stuck with it.

It's like, I don't know if either of you guys went to a school that had like yearbooks and everybody would like sign your books in school.

There's always that one friend who decided to have their signature take up the entire page.

Why do you do that? Why did you do that? That's what you could do. Just let Toby write like a really nice message and then just cover the whole thing with yours.

Or with like big blocky marker.

God dang it.

Yeah. Yeah.

I can write you this beautiful letter, Joey.

Like, please. What do you say?

I can't even tell anymore. Yeah.

It's the least I could do. Right, of course.

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

Well, Jessup, do we have any news for?

Oh, my goodness. We do.
We have

so much news.

But first,

some releases came out this week, this past week. And honestly, a lot of them are very, very cool.
So, of course, obviously we talked about Lost Records, Bloom and Rage.

Very fun game if you like that sort of don't nod

teens doing teens stuff at sci-fi. It's going to get weird.
No clue what's happening in that game, but I absolutely love it. Very fun.

Also, speaking of weird, yet very fun,

if you are a like a dragon fan, but you said to yourself, man, I wish we had pirates and I wish it was in Hawaii, then,

boy, do I have the game for you right now?

I've thought that exact thing so many times. Yeah, yeah.

Right now, you could play the new Like a Dragon game. It is super silly, very fun.
If you like dolphins for no reason, it is right up your alley. Very excited for it.

Pirates, Pirates, man. I don't even understand why it exists.
I have no idea, but I love the concept at its core. Then

we have Avowed, the Obsidian fantasy, big-time kind of outer worlds vibey game that has, you know, multiple places to mess with spells or fighting or however you want to play the game.

And yeah, I bet that most of

the fun,

even though I haven't played it yet, I bet most of the fun comes from the experience of going off the beaten path and finding random things and getting lost in the world.

I've gotten a lot of people telling me they love the game. The one critique I've seen, which is probably a critique I have a lot of games lately, the enemy, I don't want to say designs, but the...

There's only so many enemy types, if that makes any sense. Like after a while, all the enemies start to be the same damn enemy.

That's kind of the vibe with most modern games, unfortunately, unfortunately, is that a lot of time goes into a lot of other aspects besides like, let's give them 800, you know, different enemies to choose from.

Variety. Thank you, Chad.
Yeah. Gotcha.

That's probably the one critique I've heard, but everyone else is loving it. And that's really, really cool.

Then die in dungeon, which is, you know, another entry in the fusion genre of kind of like a roguelike deck building kind of vibe. Turn-based strategy is thrown into the mix.
It is very, very cute.

You combine powerful dice to kind of

build, I don't know, kind of like a Bellacho vibe. You're combining things to make sort of a super team, and it's very fun.
Yeah. The demo is great.

There's a really good demo if you want to try it. How would you, I bet you could describe it better than what I just said.
Is that like, how would you having powerful?

I haven't played this demo in a while, but yeah, you're an adorable little frog, and you you go from room to room battle to battle uh and yeah instead of building a deck you're building a collection of dice and different die do different things and yeah you try to to

essentially make it so that you're giving yourself the best opportunity possible to do the most damage yeah it's it's very fun the demo is really cute when they first put out a demo It was fun, but they changed a bunch of stuff and put out a newer demo a few months ago.

And quality of life-wise, and like the way that it ran, definitely improved. So,

why do you have that look on your face, Jason?

I was trying to keep up with Ollie. Ollie was walking menacingly towards camera.
I assume that's what was happening, or just very excited. But I decided to do it too because I wanted to be involved,

yeah. Ooh,

and we could we could be excited together then,

yeah, yeah. I want to be excited with you.
I want to be like

new games,

New games are fun.

And they look so sick.

That's what I wanted.

And then,

strangely enough, weirdly enough, I must ask the internet

because I don't know the answer to this.

What is

Call of Duty? What is Black Ops anymore? What is this game? I don't understand. As a person who isn't in the

shooterverse at the moment, what's going on? Because we just got word that the next addition to the game might be Tony Hawk.

What is going on in that game?

I thought you were like commando dude shooting stuff. What is Tony?

In my mind now, I'm imagining like

a very gritty. Street to street combat situation where guys are hiding behind doorways and there's dudes like crawl on the ground.
There's explosions in the background. background.

And then Tony Hawk just skates boards through like, hey, man, I got to get to the Red Bull tournament.

And he's like skating through and there's explosions and guys are like bleeding out and they're like, ah, and he's just,

and in the background is playing, I don't know, playing a song from like Tony Hawk. And it's like, I don't know.
Trying to think of a 90s punk song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Blink182 is playing in the background. And she's like, hey, guys.
And they're like, ah, there's a guy shooting. Yeah.

That's what I imagine it is. And it sounds great, to be honest.
I love that. I love that this is a piece of news, but without like any like real clear context for how Tony Hopkins is in the game.

I don't know, dudes. Coming to Call of Duty.
The ninja turtles are coming.

The ninja turtles are coming to Black Ops. I don't know.
In my mind,

I don't remember Donatello using a machine gun. I don't think that's what he did.

Me either. Like, in my mind, I can't imagine, like, decked out, like, Leonardo.
He's like, I've given up my swords. And he just holds up like an AK.
Like, I can't imagine what that's like.

All

the only clips and videos that get recommended to me of...

I think it's Call of Duty is like the prop hunt that's built into it.

I think there's prop hunt in Call of Duty. I don't know.
I know that there is prop hunt, but I don't know about the Call of Duty. Yeah.
So I'm, yes. Okay.

So I'm imagining people playing prop hunt and the ninja turtles just running all over the place, smacking stuff with their weapons, trying to find the props.

Also, chat has reminded me, Donatello does machines. It's in the song.
It's in the song. Donatello does machines.
And so, yeah, he would know.

He made a van, that like turtle van that flung sewer uh opening the sewer the sewer manhole covers flung those at people so i guess it's like pretty close i stand corrected the ninja turtles fit they fit on the battlefield you might as well build a gun yeah he probably did build a gun but knowing ninja turtles it probably shot like ooze you know yeah like it the ooze blaster by mattel or whatever has bro whatever company owns the ninja turtles yeah

i can see that um it definitely has a uh

We Saw Fortnite was making $8 jillion, so we want some of that.

Yeah, it has that fuck. Because I know that

the rights too, because Fortnite took them all.

Who was the singer they put in it?

For some reason, I want to not share.

Although if Cher was in it, I would love that like,

and then she starts shooting.

word.

Anytime you're screening, she sings at the same time. Yeah, Nikki Minaj is who it was, which is hilarious to me.
Also, Snoop Dogg.

Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg.
Snoop Dogg. Honestly, though, out of all the people we've mentioned, I believe Snoop would be.

I think he would

be unbelievable by far. Yeah, but he just doesn't know how he got there.
He just woke up on the battlefield.

He's just like, damn.

He's like,

all right, guess I got to do this. And he just taking dudes out.
I believe that. Makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah, I believe that.

So that's the whole thing. I do not know why that exists.
I cannot explain it, but it is what it is.

Also, speaking of Marvel rivals, apparently they've passed 40 million players with a net revenue of $2.9 billion.

Damn. Yo!

So cool!

So I expect,

I would say expect more, but also this week we got weird reports that people from Marvel rivals were fired. They let go a bunch of people.
Yeah, they let go people.

Quotation marks. I don't know.

Yeah,

this is a weird story because a lot of people were saying that it was

the studio fired a bunch of the team that helped make the game. But then people were saying, well, that's not, that's not, that's a different staff.
That's not really the team.

I don't know, to be honest.

I just know that they definitely laid off people.

And it's really sad because you know 2.9 billion seems they got rid of their american support team chad is saying the name creative director that's interesting yeah i'm not uh

i guess they're consolidating but it's

a lot of that what's interesting is that a lot of the stuff i saw online seemed very like um

inflammatory And usually I'm very pro, like,

why are they making money and firing people? This is ridiculous. I hate this.
But all the articles I saw gave me different information, which to me was like, all right, I don't know. This is

different

story. We can just.

I hate the fact that you can't find, like, it's a, there should be just, we all agree on what the information is because it's the truth. And there's none of that happening right now.

So I was like, yeah, I'm going to

hold back from any sassy comments on this one because I genuinely don't know. I really tried.
There's so much clickbait right now.

But that's because a lot of people, I think, in general, the consensus is that

companies, you know, making 2.9 billion or whatever, it seems ridiculous that they're like,

we're going to fire people, which is, you know, it's never, it never feels good to see that stuff. So

I don't know. We'll, we'll, we'll find out.
I'm sure for sure soon what the real truth is, but I generally don't know. Yeah.
Then

we have word that if you're a Pokemon fan, next week, there's going to be a Pokemon presents.

And what is it? I assume Legends ZA will be part of it. Like, I don't know what we're going to get, but it is next week.
And let me see if we can find you the actual day and time.

February 27th at 2 p.m.

GMT, 6 a.m. Pacific, 9 a.m.
Eastern.

What does ZA stand for with Pokemon stuff?

I mean, knowing Pokemon, it's probably like, these are our gods. Hey, spoiler, if you, if you haven't played Pokemon in a while, if the last one you played was

I was about to say silver gold, but like, you know, if the last one, if the last time you played was 20 years ago, but you still like Pokemon, you still think they're cutie pies, and you, let me tell you what they've done since.

They straight up are like,

We're gonna get deep into the lore of what Pokemon is. We're gonna talk about like deities.
There literally is a whole plot line about guys trying, like, we shall make our new god.

Like, that is crazy for Pokemon. It's crazy.
That's what this game is now. But

yeah, that's that's where they're at. So I have no idea what ZA means.
I could not tell you. But I imagine we'll find out on the 27th.
Yeah. Yeah.

Probably means very awesome.

Very awesome game. Very awesome.
But unfortunately, you have to buy either Pokemon Zeri or Pokemon Awesome. You can't get both.

Yeah.

That's sad.

You got to pick which one you like. I'm a big Zeri fan, to be honest.
Awesome, overrated. No, it's like, whatever.
I don't want that. Plus, Zeri is

big. Yeah, this looks better.
Just looks cooler. Awesome's trying too hard.
Yeah. Yeah.
The awesome design, it's a little too try-hardy for me. Yeah.

So that is next week as well. And then

speaking of the Pokemon world,

the kind of not Pokemon, but definitely Pokemon PAL world.

Uh,

32 million people played in the first year. Whoa, that's wow, crazy.

That is pretty crazy. Yeah, I love how they got sued and it like didn't really like, if anything, it just made more people look them up,

right? It was definitely what is that called?

The Barbara Streisand effect, the Streisand effect, I think, where like when you bring attention to something, it just makes it worse, or in this case, better.

Yeah, interesting.

Very, very excited to see what that means.

Uh, honestly, they got the money now to create kind of whatever they want, but I bet they're just gonna funnel it back into PAL World because people still seem to be playing it.

I don't know what it's like now, I don't know what the

space is like in PAL World, but there was a moment where everyone was playing that game, and so

we'll see. Then

we learned the future is still here.

Xbox is apparently working on an AI that can make video game visuals and things happen.

We'll see. I don't know.
I don't know what any of that really truly means because

while in theory, I'm not a huge fan of AI.

I'm also kind of like,

what do they mean by that? What you mean by that, Xbox? What are you trying to say? Are you just going to make a game with AI?

Or are you going to use the tools to help make things easier for the people making the game? Like, what's the, what are you doing over there? I don't think we have an answer to that yet. We'll see.

I will say that

I'm very curious about this. Isn't gaming related, but for all of you out there who are like, how close is the future?

Microsoft this past week, they put a video online. They did a bunch of stuff.
They put out a whole...

like press conference thing about their new chip which is a quantum computing chip that I think is like the best quantum computing chip in the world or some nonsense. I don't know.

It seems like a lot of marketing hype, but basically it's one of those things that if it becomes sort of mainstream thing we're doing, we'll take all of our computing stuff to the next level in a way that will change society.

And, you know, I assume if you equip that to a AI, boy, oh boy, let's go, robot overlords. I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.
Their inevitable takeover.

The ones that I just want to get this on the record now so when they scrub the internet looking for evidence on humanity's betrayal, they'll see me.

Yeah, and they'll know that I'm their cypher.

I will betray humanity, robots. I have no problem with this.
Sign me up. I will be your pet.
I will be your man pet.

You can put a collar on me and feed me from a bowl as long as I get to sell society down the river. I'm fine with this.
My robot, I want, yeah, I want, I'd be a good human pet. I'm just saying.
Wow.

Sounds kind of kinky.

I meant it that way, but the robots won't understand that because they're all there, you know, the robots are like, thank you, human pet. And I'll be like, yeah, that's me.

I think they're being actively trained right now to absolutely understand what kink is. So

you're totally true. That's totally true.
You're right. Just politely.
I don't know. Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.

Yep.

And so,

and that is, that's a whole thing. And then in just general, a lot of really cool games are coming down the pipeline.
So be ready.

We're getting into that season again where February, March, April, they just start dumping games on us.

Yep. Yep.
And so there's going to be a moment coming up here where in March, you're going to be like, I don't know what to play. It's happening.
Get ready. It's going to occur.

So, yeah, with Monster Hunter coming down the pipeline and,

oh my God, there's so many games coming out.

I am, I say this week coming forward uh for the next week is steam fest so there's gonna be a lot of video game demos to play so if you want to go and play a bunch of demos this week and experience a bunch of different games do so because there's so many games out there right now i can't tell you the amount of notifications i'm getting about new demos popping up i love a good demo I am here for a one-hour experience and I honestly fine with it.

Send me your demos. I love them.

So I'm going to spend some time this weekend and this coming week just going through the decks desktops worth of video game demos I have and all of them like right now on my desktop just looking at it.

I have to move all these windows out of the way. It's all Dodger faces.
I got

one, I got a Twisted Tower demo, AI Confidential, Wild Keepers Rising, Ruffy in the Riverside. I got a whole bunch of them.
Very excited about all these things.

And hopefully you go check out all the different games. Yeah.

Hollow Indy also has new games, so check that out.

Yeah.

That's true.

What games are they? Do you want to pitch?

Oh, the newest one, we have this one called Hollow 8. Have you guys ever heard of Exit 8, where you have to look for yourself? Oh, no.

Oh,

no, what did I?

Yeah, they made a Hololight version. Mm-hmm.

Oh, man. yeah, yeah, yeah.

I see the oh no, I see. Oh no,

yeah,

it's it's pretty cool. And if you guys like, let's say, fighting games, we also have Idol Showdown.

I heard that they're going to have a new character, which is one of my engineers. Her name's Koyori.
She has like a new fighting style, I think. So it's also very, very exciting.

There's a bunch of stuff Steven Holo Indies, so check that out. And Steve has also,

yeah.

I, the amount of, of

man, you're taking me down the hollow game.

I'm drugging you in.

We didn't even get to talk about the fact that you might be the, like,

the one person we should have asked Hollow Live questions to, and we didn't ask a single one. No, no, no, no, no.
It's a good excuse to have Ollie back on at some point. All right.
Oh, my God.

You're so react. I'd love to beat you again.

and then and then we'll stay on target and we'll really, we really, I had questions, I had genuine questions.

We'll have

talk about

oh my god, I can't believe that all the we had all the on, and I was like, I have all these questions about like all the other Hololive people and like what you think of that, like all these things.

And we talked about poop bending, yeah,

we replaced real

with poop.

I,

What have we done here?

We've never seen a rail in our life, really.

Yeah, we can't be real. We've been off the rails from the beginning.
There was no rail ever.

Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like poop bending is a bit of content in the first place, anyways.

Love to see it. Yeah, yeah.
Love to be there.

You've been a fantastic guest, Ollie. Do you want to tell everybody, we're going to do outros now.

So if you want to tell everybody who you are, what you've got coming up next week, how they can find you, all of that, pitch yourself.

Okay,

um, I realize I haven't actually done my uh opening. You guys want to hear it? Oh my god, yes, yeah,

uh, Zamala Subakalai Zombie I Dada from Holly Vida Nations Second Generation.

Crazy! Odiris!

Hi, guys! I am from Holly Vida Nations Second Generation, the zombie VTuber you all know and love, Crazy Alley.

Um, so a few announcements is that um I will be having a concert along with the rest of the Hololife Girls on 8th to the 9th of March. We're going to stream it in spawn.

We have the tickets online and it's going to be really, really great. We have some Hololife indie games too since all of you guys here are really, really slow gamers.

And um

I also have a channel. You guys can catch me on YouTube.
I have covers out. I have original songs.
You guys should catch that out. I like Minecraft for

a lot. I've been streaming it seven hours a day.
So, if you guys like Minecraft and are and are chronically ill online, just like me, then check me out right there.

I have a Twitch, but I don't stream there, so don't even go looking for it. YouTube, Twitter, I'm right there.
So I'll be seeing you guys when I see you guys.

Perfect. Beautiful.

Yay!

Yay! Yay!

What about you, Jessup? What's going on? going on for you?

Question, Ollie, real quick. What are your thoughts on making a death metal album?

There were suggestions.

Why are you death metal all of a sudden? Asking that personality. Because

I feel like you've got like a cute persona, but also you've got like a... I'm an undead monstrosity come back to wreak havoc upon man persona.
And I feel like you could use both.

Here's the thing, though. I need to know.
Can you do like a

death metal growl? Giggle like,

can you do one of those?

I've been practicing, but I don't think I've mastered it yet. It's hard to do that very well.

Yeah, it's very hard. That was so much better than me.
Hold on. What was that? Do that again.

I still can't do it perfectly. That was great.

The two voices was very good.

If you guys want to hear more of that, I have a cover that's close to rock,

and a song that's also close to rock. Not death metal, per se, but maybe you guys would like that.

Blinks at you, pounces on you, licks your legs.

Yeah, just in general, check out Ollie's channel. There's all

this stuff there. Here's my proposal.

Ollie,

next time you come on the show,

we should recreate the song Evanescence Bring Me to Life. Oh my God.

Where Dodger plays the guy who goes, wake me up, right? And Ollie, you can be the Evanescence lady, and then I'll be the music.

The music?

Yeah, I'll be the music. I'll do the music with my mouth.
Okay, sounds good. Yeah, it'll be great.

It'll work really well. I'm not going to question it.
Yeah. Don't worry about it.
It'll be fine.

Yeah.

We'll gleed the heck out of it. It'll be the greatest thing ever.
It'll be so good. Yes.
Yeah.

This week, gang,

a brand new episode on Monday of Tell Me About is coming out. This time it's about League of Legends and Arcane.

If you are a fan of this show Arcane or the League of Legends universe, but you don't like playing League and you're saying to yourself, oh boy.

I don't want to play League, but I do like the characters and the lore and the story, you can absolutely tune in for that.

I'm sitting down with former guest Necrit to talk about all the different things all the different league stories and uh trying to figure out how arcane connects with what they're doing in the game because i have a lot of questions because it doesn't seem like it does at all you know like when you play a video game and you see a tv show like be it cyberpunk or uh fallout and then you go play the game you're like wow this feels like the show arcane does not feel like that at all it's like that's not this isn't league and so i was like well how's that connect and what's the thing and they released their new trailer so i have a lot of questions and we will definitely talk about that on Monday.

So tune in for that.

Monday.

Yep. Yeah.
And then I'm Dodger. You might be watching this on my channel right now.
What? I know.

What? We're on Dodger's channel?

We're doing it right now. Next week, so pretty much every time we do a NextFest, we take suggestions for demos to play.

And I try to play like between six and 10 demos every day and just check out a ton of games. So we're going to be doing a lot of that next week.
I'm part of a monster hunter thing.

So I'll be playing a little bit of Monster Hunter end of next week as well. So that's very exciting.
But otherwise, yeah, I think that's mostly what I'm going to be doing.

Hopefully finishing up the first tape of Lost Records as well.

Hi, everybody. We had a power outage.

We had a power outage and it all got super borked. So this is exclusively for the VOD viewers.

I know. A proper goodbye.
Thank you all so much for watching. We appreciate it very much.
Thank you to Ollie for joining us and being a lovely guest.

And we will see you all next time. We're live doing this every Friday.
So, yeah, we appreciate you all very much. Have a fantastic weekend.
Take care of yourselves and we'll see you next time.

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