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Hello, everybody, and welcome, welcome to Geek Enders.

I'm Dugs.

That's Jessup.

And we have a lovely guest with arguably and undeniably the best hair out of the three of us.

Boba.

I think so.

Hello.

Boba, welcome.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Do you want to tell everybody who you are and what you do?

This is always like

whenever someone asks me those things, I'm immediately every like ounce of knowledge in my brain about not only who I am, but anything that I've ever done leaves.

I'm Boba.

Play video games on the internet.

And I don't know, stream on Twitch, that sort of thing.

I like playing video games,

stuff.

Yeah, same.

Wow.

That's all of it.

I don't know.

It's always like whenever I tell people what I do for work, and then they're like, oh, what video games do you play?

And I'm like, oh, can you use that in a sentence?

I don't know what a video game is now that you're asking me.

Can I tell you a story?

Yes, please.

So I was getting our

podcast?

No.

Yes, I have a story really quick.

It's relevant, I swear.

I was getting our wedding bands cleaned because Sam and I, for whatever reason, decided we were going to get wedding bands that have all these freaking details in them.

And so they need to be cleaned.

So I found a person to like fix up some stuff and clean them and things.

And we met up and I told her what we do.

And she was like, oh my gosh, my husband is like a huge gamer.

Can you tell me like what games do you play?

And it was the same exact thing where I was like, uh,

I know.

I'm like, I lied, I've never played a game in my life.

Exactly.

I'm like, anytime anyone asks me, oh, have you been playing recently?

I'm like, I don't know.

You think I remember?

What?

Is it like a pressure thing or is it an embarrassment thing?

Because for me, it's an embarrassment thing.

I'm going to let you know.

Really?

Really?

What is it?

Final Fantasy 14.

You don't want to talk about it.

Jesse has admitted before that he will just come up with a fake job.

Really?

People ask him.

I tell people I do.

It's just easier.

The other day, I was walking down the street and I got accosted by some guy and he was asking me like what I did.

And I was like, oh, I work for Sony.

And he's like, yeah, what do you do?

And I was like, oh, just I.T.

don't, it's nothing fancy.

I'm not like making games or in movies.

And he's like, okay, cool.

And like, that was it.

He did not want to talk to me anymore.

He did not care.

And I was like, nice.

Yeah.

I think it depends on like what you're actively doing how you want to explain it because sometimes i'm like i've made the mistake of being in an uber and kind of like saying what i do and then i'm also trapped in this car with someone for 20 or 30 minutes and then suddenly they're asking me every detail about everything and i'm like please like i just want to sit here in this car please i learned that lesson too i i would i used to do that when i was just starting i was so excited to tell everyone like

videos of this video games that's my job.

People had so many questions.

Now,

chat even knows this.

When I get in a car with someone, they're like, what do you do?

I was like, oh, I work for Sony.

Like, oh, what do you, what do you, I was like, I worked on Paul Blart Mall Cop.

Conversation ends.

They do not care.

That's my go-to every time.

Is that not the one that extends the conversation by hours?

I think they group around your house.

And they're like, I'm not letting you out until you tell me everything.

No one likes Paul Blart Mall Cop.

There's an entire podcast about Paul Blart Mall Cop.

And it's this one.

Welcome to this one today.

Thank you so much for listening.

We have the creator of Paul Blart, Jesse Cox, here today.

I actually am not.

I am so sorry.

I've lied to so many people.

So many people.

In the Uber earlier, you said.

That was, in fact, a lie.

I am so sorry.

Not again.

Yeah.

No, I think it's mostly I just like, I think it's like an ADHD thing where most of the time I'm just doing something almost

like just out of nowhere, right?

Where I'll be like, oh, I feel like playing this game now.

Or like, I play a lot of stuff where I'm like, it's older, but I want to play it, like PlayStation 2 games and stuff.

Or I just, I literally, it's like when someone asks me something, I just,

every word that exists in the English language, I'm just like, I don't know.

I don't know how to speak words.

What are those?

I bet PlayStation 2 era, Xbox 360 era games would go over really well.

Because most people probably have an understanding of that.

Me, I cannot.

A great example is if someone to ask me, Jesse, what have you been playing this week?

My answer would be, oh, well, you know that game, Vampire Survivors, that everyone was playing, that everyone loves first off.

You have to have an understanding of what that is.

I would end up having to explain it to people because most people don't know.

Then I would have to say, So yeah, imagine that game, but instead I decided to play a game called Wedding Witch, which is the exact same premise, except you like are a witch and your boobs change as you murder.

Wow.

That sounds fun.

You get potions and they unlock different versions of the witch.

You could be like a buff mommy witch or like a cat girl witch, but you have different styles of combat.

It's literally vampire survivors except

a boob game.

A boob game.

And I was like, and here's the thing.

I was recommended it by people who play vampire survivors.

Like, Jesse, Jesse.

You'll like that one better.

I'm like, what do you mean by that?

Now I know I'm a little offended, but also thank you.

But also, how would I explain that to anyone?

Be like, all right, so there's this other game.

It's probably the superior, better version, but I picked the one because it's got a witch and boobs.

I got nothing for the world.

To be fair, even when talking with other people that play a lot of video games, sometimes you'll use a term and they'll be like, I've never heard that term in my life.

What does that mean?

Like bullet heaven.

That's like a fairly new term for games that are like vampire survivors, right?

Where it's like, you're the bullet hell.

Right.

Yeah.

Not them.

It's you.

You're the bullet hell.

But like, I've had, I had to pause a conversation a couple of times recently to explain what a bullet heaven is.

So like, if that's already happening in our own communities,

then yeah, the lovely lady who's cleaning my ring, who's like, my husband played WoW a few years ago.

Yep.

Is probably

who knows?

You know?

So let me ask you a question about that.

What was your good?

See, if I was having one of my wedding rings, the ones I collect for my victims, if I was right, if I was having my wedding rings cleaned and the woman was like, oh, my husband, I assume she was 90.

Oh, my husband used to play

Wallahraft.

I would have asked her, I would have immediately been like, this ain't about me anymore, lady.

What's going on with your husband?

What did he play?

What was he doing?

Did you you watch him play?

Did you join playing with him?

What was that like?

Did it ruin your marriage?

I'd have those questions.

The last time I had a conversation that was similar, I took a different approach.

And I did instead ask, like, she said, oh, my partner plays a lot of games.

And then I decided to then ask, oh, what do they play?

You know, do you ever play anything?

I asked a few questions and then it managed to heel turn into,

actually, I do know a little bit about the type of games that you want to play and now I feel more comfy in this conversation and I can actually think of a game instead of being like I don't know dark souls have you seen a dark soul before it sets you up to be the weirdo it's a trick yeah it's like have you currently playing the 39th version of Final Fantasy and they're gonna be like oh

Cool.

Like you gotta you gotta turn it back on them.

You gotta be like

wow.

Oh, so what did he play?

Oh, what do do you, did you play anything?

You gotta do that.

And you could have got a discount, probably.

She's like, what a nice, what a nice young woman.

Oh, he was.

How old do you think this person was?

90.

How old are you in that?

I said 90.

No, your victim was 90.

Is the lady cleaning my ring also 90?

My next victim?

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, my goodness.

She's got a whole collection of rings for you to take maybe because she's got to clean them.

Yeah, I got like a dragon dragon horde's worth of gold back here, and I carry it with me wherever I go in a suitcase.

I won't break the allure then.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Yes, she was 90.

Great.

She was a lovely 90-year-old lady, and her husband

was obsessed with World of Warcraft.

Yeah, makes sense.

I picked a goof and I stuck with the goof.

And I'm going to, it's this episode's goof now.

Jesse Cox.

Jesse steals Wednesday.

Yeah.

Perfect.

Fantastic.

What have you guys been up to this week?

I know Jesse's Jesse's been hitting the town running

all over London running around eh?

It's great.

I got yesterday, maybe it was two days ago, time has no meaning.

I got

one of those like TikTok reporter on the street guys got me.

It was very

amazing.

Okay.

Yeah.

He had, I could tell something was up because he, at first, when he, when he tried to like, here's my problem.

I had a shirt on that said life is good.

And I think he was like, this guy's a sucker and I'm going to get him.

So I walked over.

He was like, sir, sir.

Can I ask you a few questions?

And I thought, since it was near a tube stop, this was one of those like sign a thing or give us some money for a thing, like that kind of vibe.

Right.

No.

I noticed he had one of those square microphone thingies, those road mics, and he had another one in his hand.

And there were two dudes with cameras.

And He's like, What do you think about the modern dating scene?

And I was like, Oh, God, youtube.com/slash Jesse Cox.

And he called me an F and C

and I walked away.

It was great.

What the heck?

That is such a strange reaction.

Like, why didn't he play off of it?

Yeah, that is weird.

I hope I made it.

I hope I made it on the TikTok.

Fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed.

I mean,

if he made himself look like an F and C, then probably not.

I mean, he didn't make himself look.

He just literally asked me a question.

I don't know this dude.

He seemed fine.

Like, he didn't seem like he was like, hey, bro,

like, what's wrong with women today?

No, he's just like, what's wrong with modern dating?

And I was just like,

youtube.com slash Jesse Cox.

It's great.

Very pleased with myself.

That's the extent of what I've done.

And it's been great.

If you stumble onto that dude's videos someday.

To us, please.

Yeah.

Well, if you, Jesse, because I got to be real with you, I don't think they're going to put you in their video.

Well, then why would I stumble upon a video that I'm not in?

Because you watch internet media?

I don't know.

Yeah, maybe you stumble onto internet me.

Do you only watch things that you're in?

Oh, I never watch things I'm in.

I specifically go out of my way not to.

So then this should be right up your alley, right?

Particularly, specifically will not feature you in it.

Usually I watch videos where old men make like weird noises and like puppets dance.

And

yeah, I watch like weird stuff, mostly because it's sent to me by Crendor.

But yeah.

Or I watch...

20-year-olds react to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, realizing that they weren't born when it came out.

And I feel old, but at the same time, I'm like, look at these crazy kids enjoying good movies.

And then I get to watch them cry at the end.

Oh, it's lovely.

Can I, um,

this is, this is a really good jumping off point for me to tell you a little anecdote about my child.

When she was like four, I tried to read her The Hobbit, and she was not into it.

Fairly.

She was only four.

And then I got to play the most recent build of Tales of the Shire.

And she was kind of watching over my shoulder while I was playing it and asking me a bunch of questions about hobbits.

And I was like, Omi, we should try reading The Hobbit again.

I didn't want to, you know, upset her too much by the fact that they do not stay in the Shire for very long.

But I was like, there's, there's basically, there's a whole, there's a bunch of books, dude, that, that this world is created in.

We should try reading The Hobbit again.

And she was like, okay, we're about,

for any of you who are familiar with the story of The Hobbit, we've basically gotten to the point where Thorne Oakenshield is like, guys, are we all super jazzed to go on this adventure?

And then Bilbo has a panic attack and passes out in his living room.

Pump off Bilbo.

Yeah, that's as far as we've gotten.

Have you ever considered making a Clark cut where it's just all the Shire scenes from Lord of the Rings?

That would be amazing.

I'm like, this is the movie, dude.

Yeah, it's all it is.

It's just for years and years and years, your kid will think the Lord of the Rings was a 20-minute film, a 20-minute trilogy of just cuts of the shot.

She's like, wow, Sam really got a lot of courage from that party to asking out Rosie.

That's been very good.

Like, what happened there?

Man, quick turnaround.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm so glad it all wound up fine.

And everybody's like,

nothing.

Cut out the ending, all the sad bits.

Yeah, nothing scary.

No Nasguls.

But in the beginning of the book, the beginning of the book is mostly Tolkien, right, as the narrator, sort sort of explaining what Hobbits are and how they all hate adventure except for the Tooks.

My kid, in the short time, in the short little bit that we've read of The Hobbit so far, is obsessed with Belladonna Took.

Really?

Philpo's mom?

How funny.

Obsessed with her.

Has convinced herself that she is the leader of the Tooks, is like the baddest bitch ever.

And I'm not going to correct her.

Yeah,

why bother?

Yeah, I won't.

Yeah.

So there you go.

Belladonna.

Okay.

That's how far we've gotten.

Has Clark started to equate Gandalf with Sam yet?

No, because she asked to see what he looks like in the movies.

And they don't look alike.

I'm so sure.

I showed a photo of Sam

just recolored his hair.

Yeah.

When I showed her the picture of Gandalf, she said he looks like he likes mischief.

So

he does.

She knows.

So that's our experience with The Hobbit so far.

I can't imagine.

This is how little time I have around children.

I can't imagine a six-year-old being like,

he looks like he likes mischief.

Like, I assume smoking a pipe at the time.

He looks like he likes mischief yeah she looks like a little baky before she goes to bed you know i see

sorry bobo what did you say it's strange she didn't get like grandpa vibes from him right she wasn't like oh that's a nice grandpa or something you know i think in the in the book they really give him vibes of like

because you know he shows up and he just talks circles around Bilbo.

Bilbo's like trying to be nice and be like, hey, good morning.

I hope you're having a nice day.

And Gandalf's like, oh, good day.

What does that mean?

Right.

And like, just annoys Bilbo to death.

And Bilbo's like, I don't like this guy actually.

Leaves.

Gandalf puts a weird mark on his door, also leaves, and then shows up later with like 15 dwarves.

So he doesn't come across as like a kind, fun old man.

He's just

like a weirdo, you know?

It's fun to see the hobbit through the eyes of someone who's never seen the movies or knows anything about it.

Yeah, and has like a different sort of grasp since she is, you know, so young too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, oh man, I really want her to graduate from Hobbit to the Lord of the Rings trilogy just so I can get some like young kid feedback on Tom Bombadil.

I would love to know that.

I want to know like, what's the, what's the child vibe on, on old Tom?

Who's Tom Bombadil?

What?

Who's Tom Bombadil in Lord of the Rings?

He's in the new ones, right?

The Rings of Power episodes that have come out.

I don't watch that.

So your experience with Lord of the Rings is only the movies then.

Yeah.

I tried to read the books, and we spent so long talking about a tree that I gave up.

Sure, sure, sure.

That's that sounds.

So Tom Bombadil is a character who is, like, I honestly can't spoil Tom.

Tom is a character who exists kind of like forever, potentially being the literal god of

the universe, but also also maybe just being a stand-in for the writer, but like literally just like a character who exists to be like, I sing a few songs.

I'm cool.

I'm Tom Bombadil and I'm mysterious.

Yeah, I wish I could explain him to you without like, it is both a massive spoiler and not.

He is, it makes perfect sense why he was removed from the movie because he offers nothing really to the story, but he's like

supremely interesting.

I don't know.

I don't know what to.

You know, he feels like one of those things that's inserted to give people like a,

wait, is that just like a weird guy in the woods?

Or is that, is this something more important?

And then they never go back to it?

Right.

Somebody said he's like a Tolkien self-insert, like you were saying.

So that's how I'm imagining it now.

But interesting.

He's great.

He's a goofy guy.

I don't want to spoil it for when you actually read it, but he's a great goofy guy, that guy.

I love it.

Yeah, I never made it through the Lord of the Rings books.

I have read the Hobbit book before,

so I know that that's very different from the movies.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The thing that stood out to me the most in terms of difference was the elves because they were kind of locked in on how the elves were portrayed in the Lord of the Rings movies.

And so the elves were like really serious business in the Hobbit book.

Or not at the Hobbit book.

They're really serious business in the Hobbit movies.

But in the Hobbit book, they're just goofy guys.

Are they?

That sounds so much better.

They sing songs and shit.

They're just little goofballs.

Speaking of songs,

go watch the animated version of The Hobbit.

I mean, it's Lord of the Rings, whichever one.

I just watched that the other night is what I was literally saying.

Really?

It is fucking wild.

And also, I don't remember because, so I watched watched it the other night and I was multitasking because I was drawing at the same time.

So I was not like, I'm like, okay, I know what happens in the Lord of the Rings, right?

So, but it's got some weird sort of like, almost like Joel, is it Joel Haver to where it's like that animation where you kind of just draw over people?

So there's like actual animation with goofy like hobbit characters where they've got like big noses and everything.

And then they've got like, there will be this like battle happening and it's just actual dudes that have been traced over.

Yeah, the rotoscope stuff.

Yeah,

but it's it's kind of wild because I remember watching it as a child

and that I was terrified because at some point they cut off Frodo's finger in it.

But then when I watched it the other night, I was like, where's this part of this animated film at?

Because I didn't see it in the one that I watched.

So I'm like, where did...

Did I?

There's no way I imagined that.

So I don't know which one that's that's in.

All I remember from that is Gollum looking insane, but more importantly.

Oh, he does.

He looks insane.

The orcs have the most ludicrous song that makes me feel bad for them because they're like, we're just orcs and we're orcin, but like, when we get whipped, we got to go fight.

And I'm like, damn.

This is crazy.

Oh my goodness.

There's a whole song.

How old is that movie?

1970s, 1960s, something like that.

The one that I watched the other night was 1979, which I guess people are saying there's more than one of them.

Oh.

So maybe the finger chopping happened at a different movie?

Maybe so.

I guess so.

Because I wonder, is that around.

Because the animation style of the one that I watched looked quite similar to some of the characters from The Last Unicorn as well.

So I wonder if the animation studio is the same or the artist was the same or something.

I don't know, which is also another wild and wacky animated film.

Yeah, there's different versions of them.

There's

like there's the

what's that guy's name?

Bakshi?

There's that.

There's all sorts of different

animated.

I mean, like, this is during the time when Fire and Ice came out.

Or the movie where, like, I don't remember what it was called, but, like, a man kind of rode, like, a wizard rode an ostrich or something.

oh i do like a red ostrich i can't remember what that one was called there's all sorts of weird ones that came out then

oh my gosh never seen any of that i don't think

oh that one's called wizards yeah okay they are uh it's a weird vibe because it's it's they're clearly and their animation that is both at the same time very kiddie but also like here's a half-naked lady too yeah all right cool

I remember that when I watched The Last Unicorn when I was younger.

And I was like, wait a second, that harpy has tits and nipples.

And I remember like pausing it on my TV and being like, what?

Because I was watching it on a DVD.

And I was like, she really does.

And then there's the tree that's got the big boobs too.

Oh, my gosh.

Yep.

That like universal child experience of pausing something and being like, should I be seeing this?

Am I allowed to watch this?

Yeah.

It is a cartoon.

My brother

had recorded off of like a movie channel at some point the movie Cool World onto a VHS.

And I just threw that in and was like,

this part that I'm looking at right now is a cartoon.

I'm sure it's for me.

And it was very quickly I was like,

the horniest.

Movie ever made.

A very, very horny movie.

Yeah.

I was like, never.

I remember when I was little, I must have been, so my sister was about eight years younger than me.

So I think I was probably in high school.

So maybe like 15 or so.

So that would make her like seven.

And we would go to Blockbuster with the family.

Remember those days?

And we would get to pick out our own movies that we wanted to watch.

And so my sister one time picked out, what is it, End of Evangelion?

Oh, my God.

yeah yeah and i remember that my parents put it on and they got to the hospital scene with shinji and then they were like oh we shouldn't watch this and i didn't even i was not paying attention so i didn't even know what it was but i do remember them being in the hospital and then so when i finally like watched the whole thing myself and everything and i watched the movie i was like oh this is where they were like

now yeah so they're like oh oh it's a cartoon we can you can watch that yeah I think it's a rite of passage for every child to watch one truly inappropriate to watch with your parents film

I will never forget going to the my parents were like you're home for the holidays we want to go see a movie your dad and I really want to go see girl with a dragon tattoo I was like okay cool

Not a good movie to see with your parents.

Not

appropriate parental.

I remember looking over at them like, are we, is this, this, Are we doing?

Yeah.

Like, oh, no.

That's when the South Park movie came out, my mom was like, I don't really want to go see it.

Why don't you take Emily with you?

And so my dad took me.

I think, I don't know when it came out, but I must, I, I think I was under 99, maybe?

So I would be like probably eight or nine years old.

Oh, what my God.

Wait, and my dad took me to the bottom.

I didn't know what South Park was, surely.

Yes, but I don't think they knew exactly how far it would go

because there is a lot in that.

And then I was traumatized for a long time after, and probably still a little bit now of the scene where they replace Kenny's heart with a baked potato.

And my mom would watch like a lot of those emergency room sort of shows.

like late into the night.

And so then we went and saw that movie.

I saw that and I was like traumatized from it.

And then I would come out of my room in the middle of the night to do something.

My mom's watching these fucking ER shows and I'm like, oh, the baked potato.

I must have seen the South Park movie 40 times.

I remember we would be like, no school day, we're going to go see South Park.

Like it was, we thought it was hilarious.

Really?

Secretly, it's just musical theater.

I don't care what anyone says.

No, we're doing a bunch of like dude bros like, yeah, I can't wait to hear my favorite song.

It's so goofy.

I do think this is backing up up a little bit but i it's something that i ran into a lot with my mom before she

like figured out how it all worked is

there were so many movies coming from like japan specifically i feel like where there wouldn't be a rating

you would turn it over and it would say nr for not rated

and

Looking back, it's like the board hadn't rated it, right?

Like, that's what that means.

But my mom and I at first were like, oh, that means there's nothing bad enough in it for it to even need a rating.

And I,

yeah, I rented a couple different things.

Oh, like what?

Yeah, let us know.

I rented

a

video for a show called Project Echo.

Definitely had Booby in it.

And then the other one was Bubblegum Crisis, which I think slaps ass.

It was so good, but inappropriate for how old I was.

But both of those I rented and was like, hmm.

I mean, not rated.

When I was younger, we had Vampire Hunter D, Akira.

I don't remember if Ghost and Shell was after that initial first wave, but I remember being in my early teens slash maybe 12 or

being like, yo, this is fire.

So,

I mean, it's all perspective, I guess, but I love those.

And Akira's got some messed up scenes in it, but I was like,

this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.

Akira used to play on the sci-fi channel, and my dad would just leave the sci-fi channel on all the time.

Yeah.

Well, it was also like you could watch Toonami in the afternoon, right?

So I got Yu Yu Hawk Show, I was a big fan of, and then Cyborg, what is it, Cyborg 99 or something.

And then you would just keep watching.

And I think Samurai Jack would happen somewhere in between that.

And then Adult Swim.

And you had like, what was it?

Like, the Big O was on.

And then I think they had maybe like Tenchi Muyu or something for a bit in the middle of the

name.

Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Shampoo were happening during a tiny bit.

Oh, Samurai Shampoo is one of my favorites of all time for sure.

Like, holy shit.

I've got the...

I've got, what's her name?

Fu's Dad's Door thing.

Oh, that's so cute.

Because that's like one of my favorite ones

oh how cool samurai shampoo though what a classic and so cool the blend of like

the hip-hop music and then all of the samurai stuff and they do graffiti and everything too so good

yes i just realized yeah you know how for a long oh my god i feel so smart but also dangerous so okay you know how For a long time I've been like, I want a tattoo, but I don't, there's nothing I love enough to put on my body.

Here's, I just figured it out.

Okay, I love cowboy bebop so much.

What if, right over my butt, I have it say easy come, easy go?

Hell yeah, that, yeah, there's so many ways to read that as well, right?

But, like,

can you not just get the classic see later Space Cowboy?

I mean, sure,

but would it have been a funny joke?

Probably not, yeah,

you could get

the bad, but then it's not a potential poop joke, you know.

Also, see a Space Cowboy is kind of like, who's reading that?

Who's that Mac there for?

You get easy come, easy go on the front, and you get see you later, Space Cowboy.

There we go.

I've never seen more eye to eye with a person in my entire life.

Thank you.

That's what you get.

I don't know.

With tattoos, I'm just like...

I have a lot, so I'm probably also at the point where I'm just like, it doesn't really,

I'll just get whatever, you know, where I'm like, you know what?

I like that.

I'll get it.

I've got the PlayStation symbols on my knuckles because why not?

I've got a Raichu on my hand.

My grandpa was not happy with that when he saw it.

He was like,

are you really going to do that to yourself?

You'll never be employed as a hand model now.

Only for the Pokemon Corporation.

But no, I think I'm just at the point where I'm like,

even if it's silly or goofy, I've got an emote tattooed on the back of my leg.

I've got, in my chat, we were using Courage the Cowardly Dog, but he's a Peepo, so it's Peepo Courage, and he's got a cowboy hat on.

Yes.

And I just, when I walk around in places where people can see the back of my calf, I'm like, I must look like some kind of weirdo with that guy back there, because he just looks like...

He's got his eyes like all crinkly and he's got tears coming out and he's got a cowboy hat on.

And it's just,

why not?

Why not?

Who cares?

It's my avatar.

A person said to me a few years back that he felt like he had reached the perfect number of tattoos when he could say to himself, I want a wizard tattoo, but I don't want it to be a good wizard.

I want it to be a shitty looking wizard.

You know, and you reach the point where you're like, I just want a goof.

I just want a tattoo that's a goof now.

Yeah.

Then

you've done it.

Why not?

You know?

Yeah.

I uh

I'm gonna, you know know what i'm gonna make a challenge to the viewership right now okay

if we on this podcast

ever hit a time where we're doing over 200 000 views on the vod

i will and this is a consistent thing can just be one episode

if it just happens

I will get Dodger's mushroom person tattooed on my body.

Hopefully.

I film it all as like, you've earned this internet.

It might even end up being the first one.

And it'll happen.

I'll have the money.

It'll be the most impressive.

That's it.

That's what it's, you know.

Let's see if you can do it.

My people

is from that.

My Peepo Courage was if someone could get 696,696 channel points.

And then there was a reverse of it, which was just a bit more channel points.

So the 696,000 one was Get People Courage tattooed.

And then the next one that was a bit more expensive was

Don't Ever Get People Courage Tattooed.

Oh,

get People Courage tattooed first.

So I did.

And I think it's been redeemed twice.

So I think I owe a second one, which I'll do eventually, but

it might be a bit smaller than this one.

I was going to say.

I'm not, I, that's how convinced I am that that won't happen.

That if it does, I will tattoo a dodger permanently on

myself i don't know where a little doog mush yeah it might be a big doog mush i don't know it could who knows

wait the crendor episode has 200 1 000 views i said consistent not one episode They're already trying to, they're already trying to rules lawyer meet though, so I won't fall for that.

Yeah, they're trying to squeeze it out already, dude.

I won't fall for you.

You got to put in the work, chat.

Yeah, open all your accounts on all your monitors and get to watching.

Yeah, it has to be real views.

It can't be those fake views.

I'm not paying for this.

You bought it.

Don't view bot me.

Wow, we're not going to be able to do it.

Viewbot is please.

Yeah, that actually hurts.

It's not good.

That's not, if we will get bad algorithms, don't do that.

How many episodes is consistent?

People want to know.

Enough or I start to say, damn, look at us.

Damn, every episode, over 200k views?

Crazy.

Yeah, that's crazy.

It seems like people like us, and we're not just

doing this out of trying to annoy Dodger on a weekly basis.

What do you mean?

What?

Huh?

I love it.

You've made me want a new tattoo now.

I mean, I always want to get a tattoo.

I just don't go get them ever.

It's just like the setting up.

I had, like, what did I do this year?

I think I had...

I got one a few months ago and then a month later, I just got another one.

And actually

two months before that, I'd gotten the two small ones.

And it's just like this year, I'm like, okay, let me just get the ones out of the way that I've been waiting to get for a while.

Yeah.

And then also just like, there's another artist that I really like that she's usually really booked out.

And she opened her books for like December and January.

And I was like, I don't even have like a super solid idea of what I want.

But I'm also at that point too where I'm like, I got a rat recently tattooed, and I was like, Can you just do a rat and whatever?

I don't care.

And they were like, I did a rat in a rose.

Is that okay?

And I was like, Yeah, that works for me.

Yeah, I'm just like, In general, I know you do a good job.

So, but this one person, they do like kittens, and they're like those old like vintage storybook-looking kind of kittens where they're like really fluffy or really round.

So, I'm gonna get Titus and Yuna as kittens

on my legs.

Very cute.

So

that's the next one.

I have a few friends in Toronto, Canada that Nick, who's been on an episode of Geekenders Before is one of them,

that do tattoos.

And so I keep saying, I'm just going to wait.

And then when I go to Canada, I'm just going to get a bunch of tattoos done.

But it's been years since I started saying, I'm just going to go to Canada.

And I still haven't gone.

So, you know, to be fair, it's a long flight now.

Just fly back in that general direction with Jesse now.

After you're unflooded, just go.

It'll be fine in a success.

Yeah, just go real quick.

How much luggage do you bring, Jesse?

Can I fix it?

I have one suitcase.

It is full of clothes.

Shit.

Okay.

I can ditch the clothes and put you in the suitcase, but you will die in the plane.

Oh,

it is freezing in there.

It is a 10-hour flight.

You will freeze to death.

Okay.

yeah, never mind.

I guess we need to do it.

But even if we wrap you in some of the clothes, like I do sometimes and I bring stuff back, it is dirty clothes, and I have been walking a lot, so it will probably stink.

But, like,

that will mask the smell from the dogs, though, that are sniffing for you.

Yeah, yeah,

true.

This just got man stink, and it ain't got no people in it.

That's what the dogs will say.

Nothing in here but man stink.

Yeah, dogs

notoriously

hate man stink.

They hate man stink.

They're drumped by it.

Don't know what to do about it.

Yeah, they definitely don't want to stick their nose in or around any man stink ever.

No.

Although man stink makes me want to get some sort of like goblin tattoo.

Dodge, would you get a goblin tattoo with me?

Yeah.

But not like cool goblins, like goofy goober goblins.

Yeah.

Oh, hell yeah.

Like, like, it got and it's like, what,

like, what what are you doing?

And the goblin's like, my best.

And he's like a little goober

Yes, that is

a perfect tattoo.

Yeah, mm-hmm.

I like it

Yeah, they're those people that that specifically just do designs for like friend tattoos where it's like you know two birds and one of them's got a knife and the other one's dead.

I don't know.

It's like two that go together right, but we're just gobos.

You can do that with goblins.

Right, right, right.

Two little gobbos who just

are not doing well.

They're all beat up because heroes beat them up.

Oh, no.

They're like, oh, man, back to the goblin game we go.

I was about to be like, oh, we should do the goblins from the game that you had us do, where we rolled to find out what kind of goblin we have.

But then I remembered that I think my goblin's butt was gigantic.

I can't remember what it was exactly.

I am.

If I ever become a full-blown tattoo person or I get to the point where I don't care anymore,

I say you and I go to the tattoo parlor, roll a D6 to determine what our goblins are, and that's where we have to put our bodies.

That's great.

Yeah.

That's a good way to do it.

They've got those like change machines that you put change in and you can get a random tattoo from too.

I'm sure there's got to be one with just goblins in it.

For sure.

Would you do that, Boba?

I think so.

I think I'm at...

If I looked and I was like, yeah, I'd be fine with those designs.

I think I'd just do it.

Because I just get silly ones now.

I've got baby Snoopy.

I've got all kinds.

I've got.

I'm imagining Snoopy in a diaper.

I don't know if that's exactly what you're talking about.

He's not got a diaper on.

He's just like

when Charlie Brown goes to pick him up and he's curled up next to his mama.

That's what I've got.

He's just fit right in there.

Cute.

It's fun.

I don't know.

I'm not going to be alive forever.

And then once I'm done using this, I don't need it anymore.

So, who cares what's on it, right?

What does it matter?

Yeah, absolutely.

Might as well decorate it, right?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, that's that's fine, but like

I want robot parts.

Man, I'm so disappointed in all of us.

We could be, I could have Jack's arms by now, punching through walls, like flipping skulls.

I could be doing cool stuff.

I could have maybe that becomes a wheel.

I'm not gonna say why that's not normalized yet.

My feet go like

and a wheel pops out, and I roll around.

Yeah,

There could be so much cool stuff.

I could have rollerblade feet.

Yeah.

Where are the centaurs?

Except the bottom half is a motorcycle.

We have

failed.

We have such a boring dystopian future.

I was hoping for like robots and cyborgs that we couldn't tell and they were like trying to kill us or something.

No, we got like

nothing.

We've got AI that is just

they have to code it so that it doesn't get into porn every time, right?

That's where we're at.

That's the best we can do is robots that just learn to be nasty.

I wanted the fucking, I wanted the shower from the Jetsons.

That's the thing where I was like, oh my God, if I get that, I don't want to have to wash myself.

I want to stand in a box and I want to be able to think about all the things that I need to think about because I'm so busy that I have to interrupt my own thoughts to remember, okay, wash my arms, wash my body.

I want to stand in a box.

I want to be soaped up.

I want to be scrubbed up, and I want to be rinsed off, and I want to be dried, and then that's it.

And I don't want to do any of it myself.

I'm tired.

I think that's the problem.

Is the vision I have is I'm with you.

Like, robot hands come out, like bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump bump.

They clean you.

Instead, they're like

sonic showers.

We use sound to blast the dirt off of you.

Like, boring.

Right?

I want robot hands and soap.

That's what I'm here for.

I'd just go somewhere and say youtube.com slash jesse cocks like yeah i don't need to buy a crazy shower for it

it's disappointing we could add flying cars we got none of that instead we've got cyber trucks that sit

they're so cool did you guys hear that they have a little compartment in them so there's the wheel here and then there's a compartment right here that you can open and you can keep stuff in there that it goes right in front of the person that's in the passenger seat isn't that crazy?

No, like,

yeah,

the back part where you can put stuff, there's like a big part that closes on top of it so that the stuff in the back of the cyber truck doesn't get wet.

I just,

I feel like

we've raised a bunch of idiots.

And

I saw a

post the other day that was like, the only way we're going to have automated cars is if we make some sort of automated car highway and i was like

the subway bro

what do you mean listen i okay wait i understand that a bit though because one time i was like oh my god i've just had the most brilliant idea ever what if we make a blockbuster but it's for books instead and then someone goes the library and i was like oh yeah

so i understand because sometimes you're like oh my gosh this thing there's no possible way anyone's thought of this yet.

And it's like, no, actually, like since the beginning of time, that has actually existed.

Oh, okay.

I,

Jesse,

have you, in your time in LA, have you used one of those taxis that doesn't have a driver?

Uh, no, but I see them now way more than I used to.

They're everywhere in LA.

It's crazy.

There's a video.

Hold on.

I want to.

There is a

Before I was, when I was coming out here on the way to the airport, I saw two of them and they were kind of behind each other, both also headed to the airport.

So I don't know.

One had a passenger in it, and that seemed fine, but one had no one.

And there's something about no one being in a car that is disturbing.

That makes my skin crawl to think about like, okay.

So the video that I watched that like featured this thing, and that's why I was like, I know so many people in LA.

I wonder if anybody's used it is Eddie Burback made a video called AI is Here, Here, What Now.

And he got one of those just to see what it feels like.

And he, yeah, he said that it was really disconcerting not having a person in the front seat,

but also

it got like stuck.

So

they, they can't, because it's, it's an AI controlled car, sometimes it gets confused.

and just sits there and then and then people are like honking at it but there's no one in the car so you have to just sit in there.

Slink down the back seat and be like,

you have to just sit there and like wait for a

person to like take control of the car and like fix it so that it starts moving again.

And I guess they were saying that the

areas where these cars like park at the end of the day.

Because there's so many of them all trying to like figure out where to park.

They just spend all night like honking at each other and like making noise, trying to like figure out where everybody is.

I saw that and I was like, what a nightmare.

And what is, are they all like, um, are they all electrical or anything at least?

But I guess that's still wasting the battery on them.

I don't even know how they're doing.

Imagine they're just all powered by gas.

And so it's just like,

get the fossils, get them out the ground.

We're going to need those babies.

The real solution?

And this is, I'm convinced of this, because people feel the need to have someone in the front seat, right?

We need to have a version where it's the AI robot guy

from that Schwarzenegger move, Total Recall.

And he's like, hello, welcome.

We need a taxi robot in the front.

We need a Johnny cab.

And he drives us around.

And he's like, that was your day, right?

And he talks to us.

We need that fakeness and the it would work.

I think I'd still need a real person because I feel like I would be.

I just,

it feels like it's so out of your hands, right?

I mean, normally if you go in a taxi, it's still, you're not in control, but at least there's someone you can reason with, I feel like,

like you can appeal to them, like, please let me out of the car, or please stop honking or something, or at least you can report them.

But this is like you're just on the highway to hell in a car with no driver

yeah if i was in one of those cars and it got stuck i think even just out of embarrassment i would just somehow tell it actually my drive is done now and get out of the car yeah because like i don't know if i would have the emotional patience to sit there and trust that it was going to just figure it out.

I'm sorry, but you're on the middle of the 405.

You cannot exit the car.

Now,

it just locking doors.

Yeah, it locks the doors.

You watch them slide down.

That would be the other thing, too, right?

How would you could it just lock you in and you can't get out?

What if it locks you in and it turns off all of those things?

Oh, my God.

Maybe I'm a boomer.

Is this how I find out I'm a boomer?

I don't trust these cars.

I'm going to get locked in.

I feel like as more people use them and as we become accustomed with them and they, you know, actually develop them and then we're not in a beta test i'm sure more people will be accustomed to it but it is it doesn't inspire confidence when most people their stories are i gave it a shot and um i was terrified yeah yeah that's true i guess like you said even if there was something that was like because you know they've got those uh Those robotic waiters and stuff where it's got like just a little anime face on it.

Maybe that's what you need, right?

I went and got hot pot the other day,

had four of those little guys come out and one was a cat cutest thing i was like yo cat you can serve me anytime and the cat was like i've never seen the ai waiters they're like um

trash can almost right kind of and they have shelves instead of a gut and then the shelves have your food on it it goes like

and you take it from the waiter and he goes pew and he smiles at you and then he like wheels off and you're like thanks waiter it's great the future's here and that's what they need to do they need to instead of having like a guy in the car, it's just a robot dog or cat.

That's what we need.

I think, you know what?

I think you're on to something.

I think people would respond really well to that.

If it was like, oh, a little tiny, cute robot.

If it was Astrobot, if every car had a little astrobot and he just like drove and he was like, it's my astrobot.

But, you know, he doesn't talk.

He just goes,

Yeah.

And he drives around.

I would love that.

Or a wall.

Or like, you remember in the 90s, we had those dogs where they were the robot dogs.

And they took care of them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's it.

That's all you.

If you give me a flipping dog in the front seat of an AI car, I'm throwing my money at you.

You're like, yay!

He doesn't honk the horse.

I'm not even worried about

me and that AI dog stuck on the freeway.

I'm fine with it.

Like this.

People driving by yelling like, you son of a bitch, get out of the way.

And the dog's like, yup, yup.

He touches the stick and flips.

How could you be mad?

We're eliminating road rage.

That's it.

We've solved it.

Honey, are you yelling at the dog?

Well, he's just blocking the freeway.

Don't yell at the dog, dear.

What do you do?

He's just a cute dog, but he's blocking the freeway.

And it's like you look over.

Every time the guy looks over, the dog's just got his middle fingers up and his eyes turn and they say, fuck you.

And them.

And then when the lady looks back, he's just snappy again.

He doesn't flip.

She's like, what's wrong with you?

They get a divorce.

The dog's like,

Yeah, he's doing that.

I see what you're doing, dude.

This is a really dumb Black Mirror episode, and I

love it.

Much better.

Much better than current Black Mirror episodes.

The dog is giving me the middle finger.

Honey, dogs don't have fingers to give.

Got none spare.

None at all.

It's a robot, dear.

It can't give you the middle finger.

In the background, the dog's like, yeah.

Yeah.

It could be great.

When I was in high school, I used to daydream about having contact lenses that I could put in that would record my entire day so that when something fun happened, I could go back and like...

You mean like the Batman?

Yeah.

So I could like take screen caps basically of like

nice moments with my friends and things so that so that I would have them forever.

And now as an adult, I'm like, I wouldn't trust that at all.

How do you turn it on?

That's me putting my tape over my webcam, but I'm doing it over my eyes.

Guess I'm back to using my imagination then.

I just had to look this up, and yes, contact lenses are being developed that can record stuff.

I'm not surprised.

Man, I'm tired of it.

I don't want any of this stuff.

I didn't ask for this.

No one can do anything in public anymore.

Everyone's going to be

so awkward.

Oh, that, yeah.

Yeah.

I think that, like, there's some things that are good, like, those phones that are doing the active live translations are pretty cool.

That's great.

Sure.

But that also, I think, like,

not to be like an elitist or anything, but maybe, like, learn a few words too, like, for fun and also respect.

Like, you don't have to use the phone for it.

You can.

Sure.

I just like to have the most time conversations conversation with the phone between me and the person, though.

You're like pro-social behavior.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I think having

like, I don't need contacts that record everything around me, but I think having that built in, like what they were trying to do with the smart glasses where you could like see stuff or it would,

I know a lot of cars now have a heads-up display, which really isn't that exciting.

It's literally just a mirror that angles up into your actual windshield, but you can see your speed and where you're at.

You have a little map and stuff.

All those things I would love.

If I could get glasses that gave me the Skyrim, like the thing at the top where I can see my objectives and directions, that would be cool as shit.

That's not bad.

I thought you were saying you wanted to see in third person.

And I was like, that sounds not bad.

That's impossible.

No, I would trip and fall all day.

All I would do is fall over.

No, I just want, I just want the, I just want a cool UI.

If we could just make a UI that you put glasses on, then you experience

stuff, that would make me so happy.

Yeah, I don't need VR.

Just some AR stuff would be great.

Like a few cool things like, well, all right, I set my destination to my phone and now on my glasses, my heads up display is telling me I need to go straight.

Yeah, I can just

go rather than, all right, hold on.

Am I going north?

Ah, geez.

You know, I don't want to do that.

No, making it easier, I think.

You can do that with the new meta goggles.

How big are these goggles?

I don't want to wear goggles.

That's like an advertisement, though, right, isn't it?

Or like a, not a red flag, but something similar if we've just got these big, huge dork goggles on.

Yeah, people are wearing VR goggles in

like normal human interactions now from what I've seen.

And I'm just, I don't know.

what are you doing on there?

I think that's the hard part, right?

Is how do you not, how does, how do you keep the technology from actually creating a new barrier between you and another person?

We need to stop creating technology that covers up or pulls us away from real life and start creating technology that accentuates and makes it easier to live.

Yeah.

Rather than like, you know, a lot of the problems is like, well, yeah, you can have your meeting in VR.

like no i could just go have a meeting yeah look that what do you mean being able to accentuate the meeting where instead of pulling up a powerpoint we can see stats and figures on our glasses or whatever that's way cooler i don't you know that's the kind of stuff i'm here for but or you can apparently that's not where we want to take things i guess so order donuts to your seat at the meeting with your glasses that's what i'm saying yes

Yeah, any of that fucking other shit where it's just on a computer.

Yeah, if you see a commercial, see, if companies want to really get us, this is how you do it.

We see a commercial, we double tap our glasses and it like orders it for us on Amazon or whatever.

Like they, that's how you do it.

Why am I the evil genius thinking this up?

It's right there.

They don't know what we want.

They don't know.

Have you noticed, do you guys have, do you have A-L-E-X-As?

I'm not going to say it or she'll, she might hear me.

They have gotten so bad to where like I used to be so nice to her because i was like well just in case you know what i mean like i don't want to offend her but now it's like if i try to activate it the one in the room that should not be able to hear me is like i hear you what do you want and then i'm like no wrong one or i tell it something and i'm like hey can you turn this light on that i've named and it's like i don't know what light you're talking about and i'm like yesterday a few weeks ago you knew exactly what i was talking about they've like completely broken and it's now i'm getting so mad and the one from the other room will answer me and I'll just I'll just yell at it and I'll be like don't speak to me ever again or I'll there was one day I got so mad at her that I asked her a question and she was or I was like oh can you turn uh this light on that I've named this and she's like dining room doesn't exist and I spoke to her again.

I said, can you write an email to Jeff Bezos and can you tell him that you don't work anymore and I'm really angry about it and that someone, something should be done about this.

I was just so mad.

I went on a monologue to her and she was like, I can't do that.

And I was like, well, I didn't expect you to, but I just needed you to hear me out because I'm getting real angry about it.

Maybe we should calm down.

Would you like a drink?

I can order some from Amazon.com.

She doesn't even suggest those things anymore.

She just says, I can't do that.

Or she does not hear me.

I have to, I'll like say it.

She won't hear me.

I'll be like, maybe it's because this is a British one.

I have a weird accent.

So I'll say it again slower.

Won't hear me.

I'll say it again.

Doesn't hear me.

Finally, one more time.

I'm like, I'm like up close to the Alexa.

I'm like breathing on it.

And I'm like, I'm talking to you.

And then she's like, oh, I'm here.

I think they've given up on them.

I got one of those, not an Alexa, but I got one from Google when I did like, I went to the Google HQ in LA.

Yeah.

And they were like, thanks for coming to this thing we're doing as a reward.

Have this box of crap.

And it was everything from like YouTube branded socks to like a hoodie that for some reason has like a giant, it was whatever the Google

like alphabet thing they were working on.

I don't know.

It's like a product that doesn't exist anymore.

Okay.

But they also gave me this little like TV, mini TV screen looking deal.

And I was like, you know what?

I'm never going to use this.

I'm just going to like give this away or someone.

And then I don't know what happened.

One day I was just cooking in my kitchen and i was like

set this up while i'm waiting for this water to boil so i went over set it up

i only use it i'm like hey google will you play and then insert band yeah

i'm sure the damn thing's listening to me all the time but it i

only ever use it to play music i don't talk to the damn thing i have no inter it's like do you want to schedule something i'm like no like do you want to up your google accounts i'm like no

like do you want to do and i'm like no google play jameriquai please yes yeah i use i use mine a lot for music but when they were working really well they work great for the lights because the govi lights you can tell it like make this like 20 brightness or make it this color or anything like that and that's really helpful that is nice yeah or when i'm cooking i'll be like oh what's what's 400 degrees Fahrenheit in Celsius and then it tells me I don't have to go to my phone or something.

But other than that, it's just like I'm living this nightmare of like,

it's like living with someone who you have to like say something to multiple times before they acknowledge you.

And it's like, okay, like once it's okay, but every single time, oh, that is like, if this is where the technology for this is at, but I think they laid off a bunch of people from that particular like sect of the company.

And now I'm suffering for it.

So

I need to complain.

Why wouldn't they think of you when they were talking about getting rid of people?

Yeah.

That's why I told her.

I told her, write that email directly to him.

Tell him what's going on in my life.

I know.

I'm over it.

I can't take it anymore.

No email was sent, but several alerts were.

Yeah.

I'm like, sometimes I'm so mad at it.

I say something and I'm like, I hope it didn't hear that.

Like.

Yeah, when we were in LA, we had smart home stuff set up.

And then when we moved, I had had a conversation with somebody who said, yeah, I mean, you can have smart home stuff without it needing to be Google or Amazon or whatever.

It just takes more work, but you can set that stuff up where it's like

just specific to your house.

It just takes some extra work.

And you can set up your own like cloud, so to speak, that's just, you know, hard drives and upload your pictures to it and all of that.

It doesn't have to exist like with Google or with Apple or whatever.

And I was like, that's amazing.

We should just do that.

It turns out I don't know how to do that.

So I, I really was thinking a lot of myself, like, I could definitely figure out how to do this, but I was, I'm so confused by it.

So you have a server, yes?

Yeah.

So, I mean, that's step one.

Right.

You have a place on your property that is like your cloud.

Right.

So there you go.

Step one complete.

You've already done one step.

You're doing so good.

You can do this.

Thanks, dude.

i appreciate it

that's the biggest step is putting a bunch of drives in the thing and making it work and then like putting all your stuff connecting it you're already there now you just gotta you know

i assume make your toilet connected somehow right now i just need to plug my toilet into it yeah and your fridge and stove house flush the toilet please that's just got to be one of those printer cords right the printer to usb that's probably on the back of the toilet it's the one they always

seen that before.

I'm sure of it.

And most modern toilets are USB-C now.

So like it's so easy.

That is so easy.

Thank goodness for universal cords, dude.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's great.

For the toilets.

Just for toilets.

That's the only reason I want the smart home stuff is for the toilets, dude.

What would it be, like hands-free flushing or like bidet functions or just like it would be like those toilets that like have the paper on the toilet seat and then when you stand up it like replaces the paper, you know?

Yeah, but it just it kind of doesn't really, though.

Haven't they done where they're like, I drew a mark on it, and it's just there still?

Oh, no, you know, like it rotates just

rotate the paper in and out, just for peace of mind.

Oh my gosh, it just does a full circuit, so it's just right exactly back to where it was.

This is your friendly reminder to

clean, clean often, kids.

Shower.

Hey, when's the last time you changed your sheets?

You should do that.

Oh, you should clean your sheets.

See if they had that for the bed instead, like on the toilet where it just rotates the paper, but it's a bed sheet.

Yeah.

And it like plugs into the wall, and it just like, oh, here's your fitted sheet.

Time to change that out.

And it's like, it just flips your mattress over.

Yeah.

I saw Aladdin in theaters, they do it with Jafar's clothes.

Why is that not?

Why can't they do that for my bed?

I saw his cape get sucked off his back four separate times in a transition of 30 minutes.

Why am I changing my own bed sheets?

Who's in charge?

That's true.

And that was a long time ago in Agrabah.

So, like, what happened?

They had it figured out.

Yeah.

Is that some ancient alien tech?

What's that about?

How could they do that?

That must have been what it was, right?

The aliens took it to them.

Right.

To us, it seems like magic, but really, it was ancient aliens.

Right.

The genie from a different world.

That's why.

That's why.

Genies are aliens.

Genies are aliens.

Bring that to Mathos.

I'm sure somewhere there's a book literally about that.

Like, gosh, I figured it out.

All ancient magic really is alien technology.

Well, that's like the same thing because my, so I have a degree.

Oh, my God.

I have a bofa.

Literally, it's called a bofa.

a Bachelor of Fine Arts.

That's what I went for.

Yeah.

That's what I went for.

Oh my gosh.

Look at us.

Mine's art history.

What's yours?

I was in the Bachelor of Fine Arts program for acting, but I kept doing things that weren't acting.

And so they pulled me into a meeting and they were like, this is for people who are serious about acting.

And it feels like you want to do other stuff.

And I was like, you're right, I do.

So I dressed the program

to take the tap dancing elective and instead

you're taking statistics.

Are you even serious about this?

Why are you doing sound design on the black box show when you should be acting?

Yeah.

Anyways, so I just got a regular Bachelor of Arts.

Yeah, mine was, I was originally going to do French and foreign language because I've taken just a ton of French over time.

And then

no one else was doing that degree, so it was going to take a super long time.

So I was like, oh, while I wait, I'll take some art history.

And then I just kept taking it.

And I was like, oh, I really like this.

And then when I went to graduate, the guy was like, you know, you took like 12 more credits than you needed to.

And I was like, well, I was having a good time.

But like, that's the thing too, with like all of those art things where they're like, oh, look, you can tell that this is aliens because of how they drew this.

And it's like, no, I just think that they just were just drawing it.

Because there's some art where it's like, especially in the Egyptian periods, where one guy was like, actually, I don't like that we're all drawing on a grid.

Let's change this up.

Let's all have cone heads and really long bodies and pot bellies because that's that's what I think is cool.

So they're like, yeah, let's do that.

But aliens?

Aliens, though.

It was aliens, though.

I just want to point out that all three of us

have degrees that in no way

affect our actual jobs, which is really funny.

I mean, obviously, like theatery stuff, sure.

You could argue.

You could argue.

I'm on camera.

With that said, though, ah, boy, what a waste of my time that was.

See, I like having mine because I'm like, I liked knowing that stuff because I feel like I'm very much special interested in it, where I was like, I need to know everything about this now.

And also, the structure of learning that you get from university.

I feel like once I left college, I was like, how do I learn stuff now?

I don't know how to do it because I'm not in a structured environment where they're like, okay, we're going to go through this time period.

Here's what you need to go.

All right, here's what you need to know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So I did that.

What was your college?

What was your experience like that it was structured?

Because I'm gonna let you know mine was not.

Mine was, can I fit all my classes in one day?

Yeah.

And then have the rest of the week to just goof off.

Like, I don't, what was the structure you had?

Because I had none.

Zero structure.

I think with mine, I started off, especially because we've all been through the American school system, I assume then, which was like

still at the beginning when you go into university and for some reason, you've still got to take general education stuff which i thought was

such a waste of time because i don't i am not good at math there's no way i'm going to be good at math can we just stop trying to do that but i think like

the way that i did it was because i was so like i was so specced into what i was doing that especially with art history it was like it's in centuries and stuff right so i'd be like i'll take greek art and i'll take egyptian art and everything so then when you're going through the course itself, that was structured.

So it was like when I had like

Egyptian art and we're like, oh, we're starting in this year.

And then when we finish, we'll be in this year.

So I think that's kind of what I mean.

Where it's like, when I was interested in learning about something, I had someone to teach it to me and show me how to learn about it.

Whereas now, where if I'm like, oh, I'd like to learn about this art history thing, but then I've got to like

show myself where to access that information.

Like, do I go to Wikipedia?

Do I get the books?

Like, what do I do?

You know what I mean?

And some things, I mean, like, I can learn about and spew all day, like Dragon Age stuff, but that's not like, that's because I'm experiencing it in sort of like a story rather than like actively learning about something, which I miss doing.

I mean, that's why I took history classes, and that's why I double-majored in history, because I like the story aspect of it.

That's all history is.

It's a lie if when they try to teach you dates and stuff, ignore that.

It's a story.

There's a start and there's an end.

Probably when you die, there's your end.

But like the

idea of it, I enjoyed very much, but also structurally, I was all over the place.

I remember

between one semester, I took a

it fulfilled both an English and a history

requirement.

And it was

it was like

writings to home, something, something Vietnam.

And they literally gave us one book called The Vietnam Reader.

And it was maybe like, I don't know, 50, 60 different things from Vietnam, books, whatever, all in one big book.

And we would just talk about that.

And then the next class I took after the next semester was like, the life and times of Alexander the Great.

There was no structure.

I was flowing through.

I'm sure if I had like,

you know, kind of what high school is in the States, which is

they start you with like, here's American history and then all right now you're doing world history and then you know it starts to develop from there

rather than me which was like i do want to watch battleship potimkin and learn more about early russian cinema for some reason sure like yeah

extra classes where it's like oh this because i think at my school we had like you could take like ballet and stuff And I was like, ooh, I am kind of looking at that ballet.

But I think I lucked out too, because pretty much all the art history courses at my university were taught by one lady and she's the coolest woman ever.

Like I was like, I had such a like platonic crush on her because I was like, this is the coolest person in this entire world.

And she knows everything about the thing that I like and she's excited about it.

And so I just took like all of her classes until.

There's like one other lady that did them too.

And she was, she was really nice.

So I think I had like two of her classes.

But it was my last semester that it was actually different people, and I was like, Oh, this is hard.

The biggest problem I think about theater classes in Dodger, you can back me up on this.

Yeah,

they're kind of bullshit.

They're like, you go to the class and you're all excited to become like, I'm going to be an actor and I'm going to learn to act.

And I'm going to Meisner technique the shit out of this.

I'm going to be so good.

But really, you just show up and they're like,

Today,

you will taste a a lemon without tasting a lemon

or you are a tree

what kind of tree are you pretend to be a tree or my favorite one this is when i realized is all complete like acting is just pure lying i remember the class was

all right for today's class

Everyone will stand up in front of the class and receive a phone call.

This phone call will be the worst phone call you've ever received in your entire life.

I want you to channel

the moment when a phone call happened to you.

And I'm like, okay.

And I watched people go and they're like, friends are just, they're crying.

I was like, I've never, I don't think I've ever received a bad phone call.

So I got up there and just faked a friend in a car crash.

But because I didn't know how to act, I was just like, what?

No, that, no, like that kind of stuff.

And they were like, and every other teacher be like, That was the realest depiction of a phone call.

You would not start saying what was happening back to the person.

You would not, like, that's a real phone call.

And I was like,

Yo, I just, I just lied through all that and didn't know what to say, so I didn't say anything.

And they were like,

Yeah,

like, okay,

sure.

I do think, like, there are, there are specific departments in college and university where they really value you being like, this is my entire life.

I will dedicate every moment to whatever this department needs me to do, right?

And theater is one of them.

It's like, the theater needs to be your life.

Do you love this art or not?

You know, so I was in the, I worked in the theater department.

I was there until like midnight.

all the time working on whatever needed to get done because i was mostly doing props and costume crafts.

So I'd just be there until really late at night with the scene tech crew and everything.

We'd just be building stuff until we had to go home basically.

And like that was very normalized.

And I think that that's common with theater departments to have it be like, this is where you live.

This is your life.

Did you love theater?

Did you have a special cafe in your theater department?

No.

So on our college campus, there was obviously food courts and places to go.

But in the theater department itself, in the big theater building, there was like a little cafe.

And you did not go to those other places.

You and the rest of the theater kids would go to the theater cafe and get the like crappy grilled cheese made by a dude who did not know how to make a grilled cheese.

And you would be like, We are superior to the plebs who have to eat the food court.

For we shall eat our grilled cheese and drink our way too expensive lattes at 4 p.m.

it sucks looking back I was like we were good

like it was the time it was the time period where

as like a young adult you're trying to find yourself but you were doing it like the goofiest ways possible like this girl I never forget she her name was Lauren she booked an extra gig on a show that I think Richard Dreyfus was doing

And I don't know, it was like, you know, she was just a background character.

But that summer, after that summer, when she returned, oh no she was no longer lauren she was lauren oh no and uh

i'm gonna let you know hated that i was like what do you mean she's like i am lauren and we're like

lauren she's like no no no like well what happened

she's like i spent my summer in new york filming and i discovered who i really am and i was like I mean, I'm not going to tell you you're not, but

I really don't like what has has happened here you got an ego all of a sudden like you didn't do anything you just sat in the background of scenes lady but whatever no i think that's like there's like the band kids and the art kids and the theater kids and stuff are kind of like similar too yeah where it's just like your identity i guess the theater too i'm i assume I guess the three of them still are probably very much where it's almost that like cult-like, like, you're saying like, this is your life and in an unhealthy way like you have to prioritize that above everything else which is not a fun way to go about it yeah i mean i think that the the consideration there is them saying that that it's your life and it's it's it should be your focus is because i imagine That's them weeding out the many, many, many versions of Dodger and I who are like, you're right.

This actually,

I'm fine not doing this full time.

Maybe, Maybe you're correct.

I wanted to be here because it's fun, and now you're making it not fun, and I don't want to do this anymore.

Yeah, I loved the idea of having a BFA.

I just wanted a BFA, but I wasn't too broken up about it when they were like, I don't think that you're as dedicated to acting as you need to be for the acting BFA.

Did you just get a BA then?

Yeah, I just have a Bachelor of Arts in theater.

No fine?

I know.

I know.

And they made a really big deal because you had to audition for it.

So they made a really big deal about like, we only accept a couple people a year.

Do you want this or not?

You know, I was like, well, I guess I don't want it as much as you want me to want it.

So that's fine.

Because

I've got the F.

I do have the F.

I know.

I've got the Bachelor of Fine Arts.

But for me, it was like my last semester, I took three, I think they were called like seminar courses, and they were so difficult.

But it was just like,

oh, we need you to write a final paper.

But, and each final paper was supposed to be like 10 to 15 pages about like art pieces, which is still a lot, but it wasn't like, you know,

weirdly hinged on like, do this one sort of like acting thing.

And that's how we decide.

I must stress it all in retrospective.

I know it's not.

Please stay in school, go to school.

As a teacher, I must stress, please.

But

it feels a little scammy because high school felt difficult.

College felt slightly easier because I was doing the things I wanted to do, but also difficult.

Yeah.

I got my master's.

That was the easiest thing I've ever done.

My final, I had to write a 30-page paper, and that was the big thing I had to do at the end.

And then I met my professor at a coffee shop.

She flipped it open, looked at it, and was like, great.

A.

I was like, what the what just happened?

She's like, good work.

You showed up to every class and you paid attention and you did really well.

So like, congratulations, master.

I'm like,

what is yeah?

Did I earn this?

What's happening here right now?

Yeah.

So, man.

I considered going for that too for it because my professors, they were like, oh, we really, we really want you to go to the master's program.

We want you to get your PhD.

Because especially the teacher that I really, really super like, she's like, oh, you should become a professor too.

And like the other professors I had, we're like, you should become a professor.

And I was like, yeah, like that sounds good and everything, but also it does sound like a lot more time.

And also, I still already owe like $30,000 to the U.S.

government.

And so how much more will that be?

Like, my friends owe $80,000 for the same degree that I have, but I, you know, had some

fast fun stuff or whatever going on.

So you want me to pay how much more?

And then I can be a professor and then get paid professor, you know, salary, like, which is great.

And it's so good.

But I think like

you have to really be dedicated to that.

And I think also like trade schools need to be more of a thing.

Like, I feel like we've really stepped back from that.

And like, I don't think college or school is for everybody.

And I think that's fine.

But I think like you need to give people access to things so that they can still be successful.

And it's not just like either go to a university and pay a lot of money or just get, you know, a degree that you have access to.

I do think that's something that from obviously I didn't go to school here in England, but from what I can tell, I feel like the United Kingdom is a bit better about that because

correct me if I'm wrong, but you hit 16 and you can just drop out and do a trade school or intern somewhere or like,

you know, you can continue with your schooling if you plan on going to university.

But if you know that that's not what you want to do, you can just drop out at 16 and be like, I'm going to be a plumber, dude.

I'm good.

Yeah.

You know, or like, there are ways that people sort of finagle things differently.

Like my sister-in-law did go to university, but she was like, I know exactly what I want to do already.

So I'm just going to drop out now.

And I'm going to start like calling a bunch of farms around here and see if anybody will take me as an intern at 16.

And it worked.

And then she was able to go to the school she wanted to go to and be like, hey, look, I dropped out because I know exactly what I want.

And I've been working at this farm for a while.

And they were like, awesome.

You know, so

I do feel like England's a bit better about that, about encouraging like different ways to sort of

achieve what you want, you know, and that it doesn't have to be university.

There's a problem, and I don't know if it's states focused, but there is an idea of having a piece of paper that says I did X entitles me to Y.

And the reason why, the only reason why I got a master's degree is because as a teacher at the time, it would get me $2,000 more per year.

That is it.

I was like, you mean if I do this, I can just get more money and they have to give it to me?

They're like, yeah.

And they're like, okay, cool, I'll do it.

Like, that's.

It wasn't because I really cared.

It was like, oh, I won't be broke all the time.

Cool, cool, cool.

And again, it's only $2,000 more a year, but I was like, I'm in, I'll take it.

And I feel like that's a lot of it.

I mean, even in school, a lot of the testing is

when I was teaching, it would be kids need to pass the 10th grade proficiency test so they can graduate.

Yeah.

It isn't so they can learn a thing.

It's like, well, we need to have it marked next to their name.

They took it, they passed, and now we can hand them a diploma.

Like, that's crazy to me.

But I feel like that's what most of it is.

It isn't, did you learn something?

Yeah.

It isn't, did this kid learn how to determine what is a real fact or not?

Or did this kid learn how to read?

Or did this kid, does this kid know algebra?

None of that.

It's like, did you study for the test?

If not, you're screwed.

If you did, congratulations, citizen.

It's weird.

Yeah.

No, it's a lot of like, I think America's a lot of like able to pass the test and that's kind of it.

And I think also like thinking about it and looking back on like having gone through university and everything and thinking about how I learned and to like how differently everybody learns too.

Like I feel like maybe I could have done better with math and stuff if it was in a way where I was able to learn it.

Cause I'm very much like,

if it's something I'm really interested in, like I was with art history, I feel like I had the right access to the materials that I was able to like binge read them basically.

But with some other things, I feel like I need to like,

a lot of like with having a job or something, if someone tells me how to do something, I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.

Like, or like, they give me directions and they're like, oh, go to this room and get this thing off of this shelf.

I'm like, which room is it?

Where is it?

What direction is it on the shelf?

And I feel like if I had that with some things that I found more difficult, where it was like a better way of learning them, oh my gosh, I feel like I would have done so much better.

But it's all very much standardized a lot of places, too.

Yeah.

Not to totally heel turn us, but

we were becoming evil.

Is that yes?

We're heel turning now into our villain arcs, and only villains cover the news.

Jesse, do we have news topics today?

Oh my goodness, we have so much news.

So as I'm sure you're aware, we got a PlayStation.

Actually, we had several video game-based shows this week.

Dodger,

who starred in one.

But we got some Sony stuff and with it, a lot of cool things, a lot of games that we are,

Jesse Cox especially is excited about.

So we see that Astrobot's getting a DLC, very free, by the way.

Very excited for that.

There was a Horizon Zero Dawn remaster, and I thought it was really funny because I thought they were going to say, if you already own it, you're going to get it for free, but they did not.

They were like, if you already own it, you only have to pay a little bit.

And I was like, boo,

worst thing I've ever heard.

They obviously are giving us a brand new ghost.

I believe this is Ghost of Yotai.

Boy, do I not know how to pronounce that.

But

that seems like a totally reasonable, fun game, and no way the internet would ever be upset about that.

So very excited.

Nope.

Nothing to be upset about.

Yeah.

Dynasty Warriors.

We're getting another one of those.

Here's all you need to know.

I watched about 30 different clips people sent me about this PlayStation state-of-play, and all of them were dudes being like, the worst.

Trash.

This is garbage.

Meanwhile, I'm excited for like Lunar Silver Star Story.

I'm like, oh my, my video is me just being excited the entire time.

And I was like, I realize

it's the little things that make me happy.

And I just don't, I just, I, when I was like, yeah, Ghost of Yota, I was like, cool.

I'm not going to play that, but like, cool.

And that's what everyone was like, yeah.

So that's, I am, we have skewed internet.

I'm so sorry.

But that's a whole thing that's happening.

And of course, there was the PlayStation 30-year bundle.

Looked great.

Seems super fun.

definitely probably already scalped.

People probably eBay's probably weren't going to get it if it's already on sale.

I have no idea what's going on there, but

that should be fun.

Then, in the world of film,

boy, we got a Thunderbolts trailer.

That was super fun.

Excited for that.

We got a John Wick spin-off trailer.

Oh, my gosh.

Excited for that.

It's a dog.

It is a

main character.

It's a daughter of the blind guy, I believe.

Oh,

I can't remember.

Yeah.

So it is a spin-off film.

Very excited.

And we got a little hint of that.

No, wait.

Maybe it's not the blind guy.

Who was the daughter?

I don't remember.

It doesn't matter.

I haven't seen the last two John Wick movies, I think.

Well, it's the daughter.

She's great.

It's not.

She is in a scene with the blind guy at the end of the last movie.

No spoilers.

Okay.

Wait.

All right.

Anyway,

yeah, but it's not the daughter.

It doesn't matter.

All right.

Oh, no.

It's the daughter.

It's the daughter of the dude with the samurai sword.

That's who it is.

And the blind guy kills that dude in a cool fight scene.

Yo, John Wick slaps.

John Wick is the best.

All right, anyway.

Sam would agree with you.

Yeah.

It's the girl from the Russian mob boss?

No, it's the daughter from the...

Whatever.

It doesn't matter.

Why are we talking about this?

Also, we got a new look at the Lord of the Rings, the War of the Rohiram anime that is coming.

That looks incredibly interesting.

Visually, I don't know that it screams Lord of the Rings, but it's got a redhead lead, so I am in.

Sure.

Also,

we have a very, I mean, we got a sneak peek at it.

Sonic is getting its crossover with Keanu Reeves, where now Shadow is just straight up voiced.

Yeah.

In games by Keanu, and I love that for everyone.

Then we have game releases.

Really quickly.

Yeah.

I said this on my stream a few days ago, but I am so excited that because

we've come full circle and people are just like accepting how cringe they are now, that with this shadow, the hedgehog stuff,

everybody's just redrawing their Sonic OCs.

I love it.

I love that that's where we're at now.

It just makes me very happy.

Anyways, continue.

Then

there was some big, big news this week that i think a lot of people got thrown for which was the fact that the new assassin's creed game they just pulled all press coverage of it they completely shut down talking about it and everyone was like oh this is oh see this is what happens we did it internet we won or whatever the hell people were talking about and then they were just like we're delaying the game um

I don't know what for.

I don't know why.

I imagine it has nothing to do with the internet being the internet.

I feel like it's probably game dev stuff, but um,

Ubisoft delays games all the time, so that doesn't that literally doesn't affect me whatsoever.

And, um,

yeah, they're gonna polish it.

I don't, you know, I don't know what people think that means, but probably like

we want to make things better, question mark.

Hmm, they're gonna add facial hair to the women

so you can pretend it's not a woman because you're a tough guy.

Goodness gracious.

Yeah.

And then just a bunch of other fun stuff happened.

But really,

the biggest thing is that we got a bunch of cool new games.

And this week, of course, we're getting some new stuff.

But most of it's things like the new Starfield is coming out.

uh next week the expansion bit we're getting some uh until dawn Enhanced for PC.

Some Looney Tunes is a thing that I,

you know, and another worms because everyone loves the worms.

And really, if you're not right now messing around with Zelda, what are you doing?

Why are you not?

Why are you not?

I'm so excited to play the new Zelda with my kid.

I'm so excited.

Yeah.

It's going to be so fun.

That's and that's really it.

Thankfully, nothing too insane this week in the world of news.

Since you mentioned it,

I will say, I will plug it.

Yesterday, I was one of the co-hosts for a game event with someone that we had on Past Geekeenders, ESO Danny.

He was the other co-host for the Convergence Games Showcase.

It was all indie games.

It's like 80 minutes long.

So that happened yesterday.

And if you want to

know what games were involved in it, there's a whole Steam list, a curated Steam list for Convergence that got put together.

So anything that looks good to you, you can wish list.

I must stress, I totally forgot.

Obviously, we got a Monster Hunter Wilds release date.

We also got the Pirate Yakuza game, which is insane and amazing.

And

yeah, we also, I just, I literally was just looking at this.

And now

I've completely forgotten it.

But

yeah, a bunch of other games that exist now are getting some really cool stuff.

So

there you go.

Sorry.

How dare you?

I was busy thinking about my boy Astropot.

He's getting a DLC and he's got some cutie pies in there.

And I'm like,

Astropot.

That's all.

And a metaphor demo came out.

And the metaphor demo, as far as I, I haven't played it yet, but as far as I can tell, it contains all the things that I played when I was at the metaphor event.

So if you were curious when I say why it's a Jesse game, y'all, play that demo.

You'll be like, what the shit is this game?

And that's why I like it.

Oh, the witches have boobs, don't they?

You have no clue what metaphor is beyond witch boobs.

Metaphor is like, that witch is actually a pomegranate, and each of those little pomegranate seeds are boobs.

And also, it's a reflection of our own desires to live.

Like, it is crazy.

I think that's, we did it, right?

I think we did.

I think we've done this.

Things have happened.

The podcast.

I need you to give chat homework.

Ooh, okay.

So, what is a game, a movie, a comic, a book, whatever, that you think more people should

give their time to, should take a minute to watch, should read?

oh my gosh okay

my favorite games are the dragon age games okay

and those are good because another one's coming out i'm not sure how i feel about it yet because i'm very wary of many things and i'm anxious person but

they're really good and there's three that you can play that are out already and the first one is very old but very good and it's kind of like playing dungeons and dragons basically and there's romance in it and then there's a second one and there's a third one but the cool thing is anything that you do in those games gets referenced in the ones that come after so even your first character that you make and play in the first game they talk about them in the third game and

it's really cool so those are some of my favorite games ever is that your con one of your concerns with the fourth one coming where it's not a you don't you aren't importing your save

i think a bit because i think that's one of my like biggest like things about it is because it's probably

also an autism thing, but I'm like

when I play Dragon Age, I've played it so many times, and each time I'm like, this is going to be my canon run, so I have to do everything exactly how I want it to go so that it's my canon story that I want it to go that way, which is how I did it with Boulder Skate.

I had spreadsheets for characters for Boulder Skate where I was like, these will be the decisions I make and who I remember and everything.

So I think with the new one, yes, but I'm also kind of just like, I don't know.

I didn't super enjoy Inquisition when I played it, and I've still not gotten through it the whole way.

But the first and second one are so good.

So, I'm just, I'm not sure.

I'm not sure, but yeah.

And then I think which one is your favorite?

It's gotta be, I think it's gotta be the first one, just because if you've never played the first one, you can play as a human, an elf, or a dwarf.

And then there's classes that are like rogue, warrior, and rogue, you can do like a duelist or an archer.

And then warrior's got like a couple of different ones.

And then there's mage too.

But there's like so much lore and history in them.

But for the first one, the replayability of it is ridiculous because I've played Boulder's Gate 3 a bunch over and over again because I love it so much.

But Dragon Age, the first one.

If you play as a different race and a different class, you get like a different story almost every time.

So, like, the starting area for the elves, depending on which, if you play a forest elf or a city elf, is different.

And then the human one is different, and then there's like a human noble one or like a poor person one.

And then it's the same for the dwarves, like you might be a dwarf that's part of the royal family or not.

And then there's also a mage starting area.

So when you're like, wow, that was really fun.

I want to play that again.

You don't have to do like a long first area where it's the same thing thing every time.

And like the story does eventually merge to be like the same stuff, which is like, oh, I did this in the last game, but at least you get that first bit where you're like, this is a completely new experience.

And the dialogue is like so good.

Like, I would say on par with Boulder's Gate 3 too, where you're like, wow, this is like, I'm locked in.

Always recommend those games big time.

Fantastic.

Oh, but thank you so much for joining us today.

Thanks for having me.

I was really nervous.

Oh, you were fantastic.

And you were nervous.

Thanks.

Can you tell everybody again who you are, what you're going to be up to this week, how they can find you, etc.

Who are you?

Who are you, Boba?

That is the question, isn't it?

I don't even know.

I'm Boba.

It's B-O-B-A, and I'm on different social media sites, but mostly I stream on Twitch, which is just slash boba.

And then, oh my gosh, what am I doing?

This is the other thing.

Someone will be like, what are you doing tomorrow?

And I'll be like, oh, my God, let me look at my calendar.

I don't know what today is.

And I only know what i'm doing by what i look at my calendar and see but i'll probably i'm streaming later tonight and then i am streaming tomorrow and then i'm having sunday off and then i stream more next week and i'm getting kittens on tuesday

how many little babies two little babies magic brian and gilgamesh

so that would be my week next week thank you very good names Magic Brian is from the adventure zone.

So that's what I'm doing.

But yeah, thank you so much.

It's like,

it's cool.

Guys are definitely like big role models.

So it was like, try not to freak out when you talk to the cool people.

Oh, my goodness.

You were lovely.

And lots of people, when we asked who, who would you like to have on the show?

A lot of people said that they thought you would be a fantastic guest.

And they were right.

They're all fired.

I love that you so quickly determined.

We are, in fact, not cool.

Just spending any time with us proves that is

we're almost like dashed immediately.

It gets it's like where you're like really intimidated at the start because you're like, oh my gosh, like they're role models.

And I think I have this where I've like met people in real life and they're like, I was really scared to talk to you.

And I'm like, I'm literally not even barely five feet tall and I cannot articulate a sentence.

Like, do not be afraid to talk to me.

And it's not even that, but it's like, I think once you start to talk to people and you're like, okay, like they're normal people too.

And even though they're like really cool and they have like a history of doing really super cool things and they say cool stuff, like you can kind of hang with them and you can kind of keep up, you know?

You do say cool stuff.

Oh my gosh, do we say great stuff?

Yeah, we do.

Oh my gosh.

I think that's the thing because like I've been streaming and doing content for about five years now, but before that, it was like, you know, I watched YouTube and I watched streaming stuff and then it'll be like oh do you want to do this thing with this person and I'll be like that person

that one yeah

are you sure I'm scared but I'll do it yeah

so but thank you no thank you you're very sweet Jesse what about you what's going on with you dude you're coming back to the US Yes, headed back on Tuesday.

Hilariously, like all great things crossing the ocean, I leave and arrive at roughly the same time.

So that's cute.

I won't be a mess on Tuesday when I get back.

No.

Hopefully, Monday, we'll have some Jesse Dodger time.

That'll be cute.

Yes.

But other than that,

I'm in my vacation part of this trip.

No more work, only chill.

So I might go see some shows.

I don't know what's going to happen.

Watch out for that.

That's fun.

You should.

Yeah.

No, that could be me.

But right now, my plan is I'm going to leave this hotel room, walk down the street until I get, I assume, into Soho, and then find Anandos, and I'm going to get a double chicken wrap, no mayo yogurt, extra hot with a side of chips, extra, extra spicy.

That's my plan.

That's what I'm doing.

Oh, it's going to be super cheeky.

It's going to be the cheekiest.

Well, for me, I will be hanging out with Jessup on Monday, assuming that I don't get flooded in again.

Not supposed to be flooded in again, so fingies crossed.

But let's see.

What do I have to say before we go?

Go watch Convergence if you'd like.

It's my first hosting thing in forever.

Dodger Coffee-wise, we have a bundle of the Dodger Coffee and the Crendor Midnight Sloth Roast bundled together for cheaper if you'd like both.

So please check that out.

I must stress to everyone behind the scenes, Crendor message us like, hey guys, can I be on the podcast?

I have a lot of coffee to promote.

Yeah, we should really talk about the bundle.

He's right.

We're talking about the price.

You did that.

That was very funny.

If he's like, I just have a lot of coffee to promote.

Like, okay, cool.

Love Crendor.

And aside from that,

I think that's it.

I'm probably going to get a message later being like, like, no, huh?

Streaming.

You're going to do fun stuff on the internet.

And I stream.

I do stream.

I do do that.

Yeah.

I stream sometimes.

Dabs.

So come hang out.

It's a good time.

But that's it for us, I believe.

So if you want to watch this later or any of the other geek enders of Days of Yore, you can find them on youtube.com/slash jessecox.

We do not keep the VODs here.

They're exclusively on Jesse's YouTube.

And we're also on all of the podcasty things.

So

you can listen to us, watch us, whatever suits your feelings.

You know what you need to do?

200,000.

200,000.

And I will get that little weird mushroom thing that Dodger has.

You have to watch every time Dodger streams games.

Yep.

It'll be on my body.

And then once that happens, you're closer to getting matching goblins, too.

That's so true.

The gateway.

We've got to do it.

At that point, we're going to have to make goblins.

Yeah, what will be the point?

It won't matter.

Yeah.

At that point, it's like when you get a new car and then it gets scratched, you're like, well, screw it.

What the hell do I care what happens to this damn thing now?

That's the same thing.

Might as well just get a bunch of weird tattoos at that point.

Yeah, it's like when you have a building and someone spray paints on the side and you're just like, well, screw it.

Might as well just cover it in spray paint.

That's me.

I'm that building.

Guys, take care of yourselves.

Have an amazing weekend.

And we will see you you next Friday.

Bye-bye.

Bye.

So bye.

Farewell.

Ovida Zane.

Bye-bye.

Bye.

Adieu.

Yeah, yeah, you know what time it is.

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