42: The Geekenders: Amy the Amazonian Talks Magic the Gathering!

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Geekenders.

Hello, hello.

We've got Jessup in the United Kingdom.

Hello, hello.

We got Dodger in the United Kingdom as always.

And we've got our fantastic guest, maybe the first guest to have ever come with like a prepared list of beefs and topics to start us off.

I'm very excited.

Welcome, Amy.

Hi, I'm Amy or Amazonian.

It'll say both on a lot of things.

And yes, I did.

I have two sticky notes with some mundane beef to start because I heard that the geekenders need to start some beef.

And I'm here to just infuse some drama into your lives.

Oh my gosh.

I'm so excited.

Thank you.

It's about time someone cared enough to come prepared for beefs.

Yes.

And you know what?

I'm going to like run one by you both right now, right at the start.

Oh my gosh.

How do you feel about McDonald's coffee?

Because I think that it is the cheapest, most drinkable coffee that you're going to get when you are in a random place.

And I'm a coffee snob.

I'm drinking that McDonald's coffee that's there.

100%.

I am exactly the same.

I was told, so when we were starting to do do our roast for Dodger Coffee, we talked about McDonald's coffee because

they, I guess, specifically did a bunch of tests, taste tests, to try and find a roast that would be palatable to the most people to make sure that the most people would enjoy it even a little bit, which I found very interesting.

Hey, so we can't have a beef because we both agree.

Dang it.

I'm going to take this up another level.

okay f mcdonald's that's what i say well sure yeah

can we start beef with that is that something we can do like like with mcdonald's as a corporation yeah what if more money than us right but that means that means we're the underdogs and like your coffee's trash we run we run into this wall every time though They don't care about us.

It has to be somebody who at least cares about us a little bit.

We could start a Twitter campaign that's just like, McDonald's is a piece of trash.

And everybody would be like, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

And McDonald's would just be like, they're at it again.

Okay, whatever.

Beefs are tough, man.

I wish I had.

I don't know.

I guess what I'm trying to say is

maybe instead of a beef, we start as like a lovers to enemies kind of thing.

You know what I mean?

Okay.

Right?

Make friends with them first.

Right.

And then be like, friendship turns into like, yeah, friendship turns into love, but then that love, we realize that we actually hate each other.

And then it's like

that movie where it's the two spies and they live together, but like it's Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.

So like Effit, they're hot, but they're going to kill each other.

Mr.

and Mrs.

Mr.

and Mrs.

Smith.

Yeah.

Just like that.

Just like that.

Didn't they really

build up?

Yeah.

There's like a new show, I think, that's another Mr.

and Mrs.

Smith.

It's a Smiths.

I don't know what they're calling it.

Yeah.

I think I saw ads for it and then I didn't watch it because it's on a streaming service that I don't think I have at the time.

I do the like rotating streaming services where it's like this month, this is a Netflix month.

Watch everything.

All right, next month, that's a Paramount Plus month.

How much Star Trek is there?

Wait, that's so smart.

I should start doing that because every time something comes out, I'm like, well, I guess I have to, I have to keep this.

But you're right.

That's such a good way to do it.

Just rotate because I just refuse to get like Apple TV or Peacock or any of those.

So I just don't watch any of that.

Amazon Prime is apparently where that's streaming.

Oh, well, I have the Amazon Prime emote on Twitch.

Eat it Amazon.

So it's clearly streaming on my emote.

Dang.

Get wrecked.

Amazon.

I sniped the Amazon prefix right from Amazon.

Like, I'm sorry.

I worked for you.

I own this.

This is mine now.

Oh, my gosh.

That's a power move, dude.

Oh, yeah, we have like Amazon Flex and a bunch of the other like Amazon products.

It's just like, yeah, you can never have this, Amazon, because i got there first oh my god you're in the best position to beef

yeah with amazon i will fight amazon even if they own twitch i don't care i gotta i'll get in so many fights with them like

sitting in a weird little chair somewhere being like what do we gotta do to get this prefix yeah well listen i've met Jeff Bezos and he was wearing unattractive skinny jeans.

So I have that over him.

I would never wear unattractive skinny jeans.

Get wrecked, Bezos.

we so we can start a beef with bezos

i don't think he'll care

man

why why it's got to be so hard to start beefs

you know what we just need to be we just keep aiming too high is the no no no no no we need to just get higher

we need to become bezos level

so we'll just work at it And then we'll hit him with like nice skinny jeans.

Right.

How hard can it be

a billionaire?

so embarrassed about his skinny jeans

run away crying he's gonna be like i thought i was gonna get sloppy kisses from jesse

everyone gets a sloppy kiss when they meet jesse no sloppy kiss only sloppy discs that's how we do

i'm gonna get that man yeah someone clip this send it to bezo one of you has gotten

Jeff Bezos probably like, send the kill squad.

You never hear from me again.

That's it.

So I know his, I think it's his nephew is on Twitch because I once got like randomly gifted a sub to his channel.

And all he does is do like Microsoft flight sims all day.

And I was just like, How did you find my name?

It's like, I don't know, it showed up when we typed in Amazon.

Like,

what is happening here?

This is a cool flight sim, though.

I like what you have going on.

What is this?

Is this Utah?

Utah looks pretty cool from up here.

I love, I love that people went to his chat and just started gifting subs to anything

related right yeah yeah that's very good yeah

which i guess is a thing you can do there's times where i'll make a joke and i'll be like oh yeah i know that guy's probably watching and then i'll see a gift to like do me 22 and i'm like

no one has that name there's no way

Absolutely happens.

Like, thank you to the people who are just like committing to the bit hard in chat.

How are you finding these names?

Yeah.

I mean, it's either the bit came up before, and so someone grabbed the name.

So it was as easy as just being like, I gift a sub to this person that completes the bit.

Right.

Or I know in the past, when it's been a strong enough goof, people have just gone and made a second Twitch account

just so that the name exists somewhere.

Powerful.

That's a power move right there.

Gift us up to sloppy kisses.

Don't

do it.

Sloppy kisses has got to be a name on Twitch, right?

Someone has that name.

Someone for sure.

Now, Sloppy Diss's, that's a better, that's a better name.

Sloppy disses would also be very good.

Yeah.

And if they stream together in some sort of co-op thing,

I'm gifting both of them subs.

Yeah.

They need to meet each other.

Right.

They're married.

Oh, they're married and they have kids.

What are their fancy names?

What is the fan art?

Their kids' names?

Well, you know, like Kyle, Stephen,

Angelica.

Of course.

I like how these children were born in the mid-90s, based on their children.

They were.

Right, yeah.

They've been together a long time.

Oh, it's a very stable relationship.

I know.

They're loving.

Those are all adults now, dude.

Yeah.

Her name is Esther.

His name is

Frank.

They love her.

She actually loves her name, Esther.

It needs to come back in a rotation.

Yeah, Frank and Esther, Kester.

Not to throw us back into the stone age of the beginning of the show, but we have been getting some feedback that we're very bad at actually introducing guests properly.

Should I say what I am and what I do or whatever?

Could you, yeah, let everybody know who are you?

What do you do?

What are you all about?

Because everybody's looking at your background going, Yo, what's up with all that back there?

Who is this?

Dragons, a lot of dragons and stuff.

I have a dragon on my shirt, just dragons behind me.

Uh, I'm Amy or Amy the Amazonian, and I play Magic the Gathering full-time on Twitch.

So that's my thing: I love magic.

Magic has a lot of dragons, but I'm also, I'd say, getting increasingly known for my deep love of Transformers,

which is both unhealthy and insane and needs to stop.

I mean, it depends on what kind of deep love you have and for which version of the Transformers.

See, that's the problem is I can't talk about this.

This is not an 18-plus show, right?

I can't talk about this on this channel.

What?

Hold on.

Hold on.

First off.

What do we mean?

To everyone who, we must stress this.

To everyone who said we don't introduce guests well enough.

The reason is because I'll hear something like this, and it won't matter who the guest is.

I'll need to know what kind of erotic, robotic art you're into.

I must know because frankly, at this point, it's all I care about.

I don't need to see your AOC.

That sounds very little to me.

But I am curious.

Yeah, like my Anthree bookmarks, they range from like, oh, this is a healthy, like, hearty thing.

It's an exploration of linguistics and culture to.

Again, I can't say these words in this order on this channel.

They're They're fine on their own.

You can't say them in that order.

They have a lot of implications.

No,

I got introduced to Transformers by my friend through her weird erotic fan fiction.

So that's how my introduction to the fandom across the last 10 years.

I get a very skewed view of like, I'll go and watch a show and be like, oh, that's the guy that you like.

The big robot guy you like.

Oh, it's the robot guy you want to go.

Let me kiss to.

I

so desperately want to know what the verbiage around erotica for transformers is because I have to I have to imagine it's like his gears ground to a halt after seeing her curvy nature in the wild

was she made that way or did she craft it herself

So there's like actually a huge like weird like fandom linguistics to it.

A lot of um spikes and valves if you want to know.

Oh,

various types of interfacing.

Oh, yeah.

You want to see plug and play spark?

What's your flavor?

Okay.

Okay.

Got it.

Got it.

He loves his exhaust, but he knew that that day.

Yeah.

Never mind.

Abandoning ship immediately.

No, like, uh-oh, I can't get into this now.

I'm realizing now that we're having this conversation that not specifically about erotica, but I sort of assume that most people got into Transformers when they were really young.

But you're saying that

you weren't into it at all until like 10 years ago.

Like Transformers, the original series, came out before I was born.

I was born in 91.

So just to state myself, that was like in the 80s.

It had reruns while I was a young kid, but like my family wasn't watching that much.

We had the VHS of the Transformers movie, but it was a Star Trek household.

There was so much Star Trek always on the TV.

It was like, yeah, we taped the Deep Space Nine.

We're going to watch the next generation.

And I'm just like, yay.

And then I watched all of again as an adult.

And I'm like, this is awesome.

I didn't get it as a kid.

I don't know how we got here, but I love every minute of this.

I must stress.

We need this to be the

this

potentially be the entire from now on.

All we talk about is like, welcome to the show.

So what erotica inspired you to be interested in the topic that you really, really love?

Because if you're not a freak about it, what's even the point?

What's even the point, right?

What a quote.

So true.

Why did you have like a deep philosophy?

It's like, no, don't match my freak.

Show me your freak.

Exactly.

Yes.

Yes.

Also,

would sloppy kisses as a transformer just be oil?

Oral lubricant.

Oh.

What would that be?

Is that like wiper fluid?

Could be.

I don't know.

I guess there's options there.

Individual artists be like,

so what in your in your mind, like, what is this?

What does this taste like?

What's going on here?

Is it?

Probably all sparky, I would imagine.

Some sort of like, yeah.

Like WD-40, which, by the way, you were not supposed to ingest WD-40, but we've all got like a little spritz of it in our mouth at some point, right?

Maybe not just me.

I mean, maybe not.

I don't think that's a good idea.

I did mechanical engineering, so I've also had a lot more exposure to like

oiling up gears than most people.

Sure, that makes sense.

Sure.

I mean, I want, like, it's similar.

I one time went to a Wendy's and got a spicy chicken sandwich, and I've been into the chicken sandwich, and it was just really, there was like a lot of juice in there.

It like blasted me in the face.

I feel like that's very similar.

Similar.

It was an oil-based blast.

Not as toxic, but similar for sure.

Right.

I mean, it could have been.

It was a Wendy's chicken sandwich.

I've never had the Wendy's chicken sandwiches.

Oh, the spicy chicken sandwich.

That's a winner.

Everything else, meh, whatever.

Spicy chicken sandwich, though?

That's great.

They got rid of the spicy chicken nuggies for a while, and I was real mad.

Do they have them back now?

I don't know.

You don't know.

The closest Wendy's to me in LA is like way too far away.

So when I see it, I'm like, yo, I'm going to that Wendy's.

Other than that, it's not a...

It's not a feature of my life, sadly.

Sorry, Wendy.

Apparently, they're seasonal.

It's seasonal.

Oh.

Like the McClub.

Just like the McConnell.

Which is a trash product from Trash McDonald's.

Be a story.

Yeah, McDonald's.

I'm okay with your coffee.

I'm not okay with your McRib.

Just get rid of it or keep it there forever.

Stop making it into a limited time thing.

Come on now.

The only thing limited is my patience with your terrible deals.

Yeah, wreck them.

Damn, damn.

We'll get them.

Yep.

Speaking of seasonal things, I hope that this transition works.

You guys, during pre-show, started to talk about, and we halted it, but you started to talk about there's seasonal magic cards right now, correct?

Yeah.

New set.

New set who diss comes out in

today.

Comes out in today.

It comes out in today.

Everybody, or pre-release day, I should say.

It's the spooky scary horror set.

It's like a 1980s haunted house kind of shtick, but it is full of horror references to like Chucky and Saw and all the other horror franchises.

You get your Freddy Kruegers.

You got your Jasons.

You have all of them.

I don't want a Chucky card.

You got your Freddy Krueger's.

You got your Jasons.

It's worse than that.

There's literally like branded Chucky card that's being released as part of one of their like online special sales.

And I don't want Chucky.

So for me, it's like, don't do this.

They have a Ghostbusters.

I like Ghostbusters.

I don't like Chucky.

Yeah, Chucky was nightmare fuel for me as a kid.

And I don't know why.

Is this like a, I don't like Chucky because it's scary vibe or I don't like Chucky because it's goofy vibe?

Oh, I don't like Chucky just because it's like I found the movies to not be that well put together.

So it's like, I can't get into this.

This monster's not getting to me.

Like he's gross and he's rude and he's like a little creepy, but like, I don't know, he's stalking around the house like a Muppet.

And I don't know.

I'd rather just fight a Muppet.

It's like the leprechaun movies.

Like the Leprechaun's literally three.

Like lean into being stupid.

Yeah, I mean at one point he went into the hood and then I don't know what that was about, but he raps.

He's like, lep is up to no good.

Something in the hood.

I'm like, this is, this is not, this is not, this is not.

You're just like, I'm not really sure what's going on here.

Yeah, I want to say like

the leprechaun series also has a lot more like diverse cast versus like just like a couple people being hunted down, but they also, they really do lean into being extremely stupid movies.

But most eventually do.

That's the fate, I think, of all horror movies, is that eventually it's Jason in space.

Like no matter what happens, we always end up at Jason X.

He's in, and no matter what, and that's sad because the alien movies already start in space.

So at some point, we're going to get like...

So where do they go?

Yeah, an alien film that's like, it's in space, but like

different space, man.

And then we're downhill from there.

I think we've had a lot of fun.

Wouldn't it have alien on a spaceship?

We've had alien on a colony, alien on a space station, I think, in the most recent one.

So, we need, we need alien, we much like with Chucky's beginnings, we need alien in your house.

He's in your trash can.

No matter how many times you throw him away, he keeps showing up in the trash.

I like him.

I like him.

He can stay.

Like, yeah, he's going to kill me, and I'm going to like,

I don't know, incubate a chestburster and die.

That's fine.

Exactly.

Cutie pie.

Also,

maybe not.

Doesn't there have to be a queen in order to get the chest bursters?

So if it was just one little alien guy.

Hmm.

What is their life cycle?

So is it queen lays the eggs?

Eggs are the chest bursters.

Chestburster incubate into whatever living being.

Yeah, I think so.

Right.

The thing that comes out is then the, or the facehugger does the thing, then is the chestburst.

and then that turns into, what, like just a drone?

I guess.

But then

I think there's information about how they develop a new queen.

They, at least from, boy, oh my God, why do I know alien lore?

At least on the alien home planet, there are multiple queens.

They all fight each other for like

queenness.

And then there's also predators on the alien planet.

Aliens have their own.

Ecosystem where they're not the top dog all the time.

And there's things that hunt the aliens.

But also

their blood is acid so i don't know man

those would be really bad sloppy kisses not

i was thinking about the most recent movie and how the trailer kept having the like little tube dangling around that person's mouth and the entire time i was like

that seems so unthreatening when they do it like that when it's just like a little plastic looking tube i was like bite that damn thing off and then i was like oh you can't acid blood

acid blood yeah really aliens kind kind of suck, except for the acid blood, which makes them kind of tough to kill.

Yeah, because I was going to say,

I've watched alien stuff.

I haven't really watched predator stuff.

What gives predators an edge against the aliens?

I know what they look like in that tool.

They have to kill aliens, and they have tools for the task.

Because if you're a young predator in order to become like a predator-predator, you got to train to kill aliens.

That's the rule.

Okay.

You can get all the lore you need

from the 90s arcade video game Predator or Alien vs.

Predator where there's two humans and two Predators hunting down aliens and a side-scrolling action art like

whatever that was action adventure.

It was great.

The human, I don't remember the species for Predator guys, but yeah, they're they're teammates.

Okay.

Because aliens are the bad guys.

I watched the alien vs.

Predator movie a long time ago, and I remember it's like cool teammate between, like a team up between like this girl and this alien guy and they're gonna fight the alien.

It's not as cool as you want it to be ever.

Like the idea that, like, yeah, we're going to fight off thousands of aliens.

And then alien versus predator makes aliens look less cool.

So then when aliens do show up later, you're like, one alien,

give me like six predators.

We'll hunt this in a week.

You know, it doesn't make any sense, but whatever.

It's the scalability of the threat.

Fight.

Exactly.

The scalability of alien threats.

And their acid blood, which again is the problem.

Is there an alien card?

No, a Chucky card.

That's how we got here.

We got a Chucky card, but sometime in the near future, there's going to be Magic the Gathering in space.

And

they might do a tie-in with some well-known extraterrestrials.

I don't know.

I really don't know.

Meanwhile, before this,

before we got like Chucky and Freddy and whatever,

the previous thing in

feels like the beginning of September, end of August, was like, happy animals in the forest.

This is a rat, but he has a sword.

And this is a badger, but he's oh, so angry.

And that right there, that's the, like, mouse king.

Look at the mouse king go.

Bloomboro was awesome.

And I, I, it's so funny to me.

They're like, no, horror.

It was like the red wall set.

It was so cute.

So cool.

It sounded like a red wall thing.

Yeah.

It's just cute animals.

And then they're like, okay, so we went from the most child-friendly set, like you would give this to your like eight-year-old kid and be like, look at the cute mouse holding a sword.

And now it's like, you can't show them this one because this is like a face being like torn apart and you can see the inside of it.

And there's like teeth coming out through and they're like crawling around.

It's like, I don't want to look at this.

This is bad.

This is bad to look at.

I really want to go to a tournament where your options are only those two decks.

That's all you can choose from is half the people have like little cute animals, the other half of like disturbing graphic art.

That's all I want.

That's so good.

Yeah.

The

like the thing they've done with magic sets in the past year is they've all been heavily themed.

So the first one I think that came out this past year was essentially like a detective noir themed thing where everybody was wearing fedoras and that makes you a detective.

That was murders at Karlov Manor.

So kind of a murder mystery, but not really, because they spoiled who done it before the story came out.

The story was like being released online and then they had the live stream like introducing the mechanics of the set and they're like, and it was Tristani.

And it's like, don't, don't tell us that.

I have to finish reading the story.

Anyway, what a weird choice.

Weird choice.

Then there was Cowboys.

Everybody's cosplaying as cowboys.

Thunder Junction.

Put on your big ol hat.

Derail the train.

Ride around some horses or horse-like things.

There is a card that has a centaur with spurs on his heels, which I think is very funny because it's like, is that so you can like kick yourself?

Right?

I don't know, but he's got a cowboy hat and he has spurs on and he's a centaur.

So

he rides horses.

That's like.

Do you think he rides on top of another?

He gets on top of the horse.

Everyone's like, you can't do that, man.

He's like, don't you tell me what I can do?

Yeah, he's a centaur who rides horses.

Right.

There was a Fallout set.

Yeah, there was Fallout.

There was Assassin's Creed.

Yep.

Then there was Cute Animals.

I'm so far removed from Magic the Gathering knowledge.

I had no idea they did

themed sets like this.

I don't think I've

seen any of this stuff before.

Yeah, they had, I wonder if it's, was it Secret Layer?

Whatever the company was that was making the extra magic cards that were like Street Fighter and stuff like that.

I don't know if they jumped on that bandwagon.

We're like, oh my God, people buy anything with magic.

So they just started making their own goofy ones.

I don't know what the deal is behind the scenes, but it's crazy to me that for a while, you had to go to separate companies to get like, this is a magic card called,

you know, Mario's Mushroom.

And you'd be like, wait, Mario's in magic?

I gotta buy that card, dude.

And then he would.

And for some reason, now I have a bunch of Street Fighter cards that I'm like, when would I ever use this in play?

I don't know.

The Chun Li deck.

Just got to get in on that.

Oh, my God.

My Chun Li rabbit deck is a stone cold killer.

You do not mess with Chun Li and rabbit soldiers.

That's the one.

When my Chun Li gets down, 15 rabbit soldiers immediately afterwards.

People do not know.

That's a blue-green deck right there.

You do not know what's going on.

Just are you sending the rabbits to war?

Are these like the cute Bloomboro buddies too?

Are you just murdering them?

Right.

I'm sending them my rabbits and Chun Lee's behind him and she's just all thighs kicking rabbits at you.

And you have the guy to dodge the rabbits, but you can't because you're just, you know, mana flooded.

So I'm just bombarding you.

Yeah.

Damn right.

I think they like started doing these media tie-ins a couple years ago and they were just selling a couple cards at a time.

And they did some like bigger ones like within Hasbro.

I mentioned before, Transformers, they did a Transformers thing since Hasbro owns Wizards of the Coast.

So that's, I feel like that's an easy one.

And then they were just like, this is advertising for both of us.

Warhammer, Magic the Gathering.

They're both nerds with disposable income.

What if we took both of their incomes?

And now I have no money left because I spent it all on Warhammer, Magic the Gathering.

We're getting a full Final Fantasy set.

Next year, I'm like actually worried because it's going to be either really good or really bad.

It depends on what the Final Fantasies are.

It's all of them.

Somehow in one set, they're doing all 15.

I don't, so like with Magic the Gap.

So with the Assassin's Creed stuff, they did kind of every Assassin's Creed, but they tried to do

focuses on like an Ezio deck where it was you're running and gunning and you're throwing down cards and you're doing more.

And then they did like an

Avor, Ivor, whatever her damn name is.

And it was like weapons.

and equipment and that was kind of the vibe but then there's all these other things where it's like yeah every assassin's creed's in here too and so it's kind of,

I don't know, it's all right.

It's fun, but I don't know that it's like a terrific thing.

I guess it's like for collectors, but I wouldn't play it.

It seems a little complicated and whatever.

But Dunlee plus Rabbits is happening.

I'm making that deck.

I want to share it with the world.

I believe in you.

Thank you.

I believe in your kicky bunnies.

I need to see what color they all are.

Like, I don't know.

Chunk bunnies are green-white and Chun Lee, I think, is blue-white.

So do you have the white overlap there?

Yeah, I feel like I could could do a green.

Like, I could do something.

It could happen.

I can't believe this is the thing.

This is what you can do now.

You can have, like, yeah, I have my

Etzio

Jason deck.

Yeah, he's fighting Gandalf.

Yeah.

Why not?

That's right.

They released a Lord last year, I think, they had Lord of the Rings.

And it was actually really great.

I love the Lord of the Rings one.

Yes.

You could, like, just put out a thousand orcs, and that could be your whole entire playstyle.

It was great.

No, okay.

Don't get upset with me for asking this question.

But is

Magic of the Gathering

to the card battler world

what Fortnite is

to shooters?

Now?

100%.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yes.

It used to be.

It used to have like its own like self-contained stories and everything else.

And now it's just like, yeah, Final Fantasy.

Which ones?

All All of them.

Yeah, they said they're going to be doing all 16 and tactics all in one set.

And I don't know how they're going to do that.

It is just like Fortnite.

It's so funny you say that.

It's just like Fortnite in the way that for a while, Fortnite,

Fortnite had a story that was like, hey guys.

This is important.

The Fortnite world is under attack, and we need you to come and save it from the Glorp Master.

And only the Glorp Matt...

Like, that's kind of what they were they were like these are the planeswalkers and this is like the fire one and this is the like the ice one and it happened

and people were like nah I don't care about that and so like I want to be Goku and I want to pick up quests from Darth Vader

it was like a co-op game like you and like three friends would just do a mission together but then it turned into battle royale battle royale make money yeah 100 yep that's that's there is what's absolutely hilarious speaking of fortnite is i played it when it first came out so much when it was just like build things and fight off waves of monsters they gave me a flag in the game which you can still get to this day i

i was like this game's all right it's not gonna be anything huge and stopped playing and it's my

that in minecraft for some reason don't ask me to judge what's popular I was like, it's all right.

It'll be fine.

I don't know if this is going to blow up or anything.

I could have been a Fortnite billionaire now.

I wouldn't even have talked to you, Dodger.

I would have been like too cool to hang out with anyone.

Yeah.

It'd be me and,

you know,

the Rizzler.

We'd be hanging out together.

Sure.

Yep.

Me and that 13-year-old boy, we'd be best buds.

You and the Rizzler.

Look, you can't be 13 and be called the Rizzler.

I don't like it.

It's not fair.

There's an adult out there who deserves to be called the Rizzler kid, and I don't like it.

You can't, you didn't earn earn that.

You're a child.

You did nothing.

You had a child out there who is hitting you with the Rizzy.

No.

You didn't hit it with the Riz.

You have never had Riz.

You're a baby boy.

You're 13.

To be fair, if you were walking down the street and you made eye contact with this child, you might get it.

I don't know.

If the kid like whipped out a, like a skateboard, did a kickflip and ended in a dab, I might be like, oh my God.

Holy shit, that's the Rizzler.

Wait, wait, but at the same time, it has to like throw the basketball over the shoulder, make make the hoop, and that's like the hoop has to be like two streets away.

There's got to be something real impressive going on here.

Here's the thing: when you're done, when we're done here today, just Google the Rizzler and you tell me, do you think this child is flipping skateboards and dabbing and doing?

I don't think that's happening.

And it's, I'm going to say, kind of angry.

There's an adult who will flip kicks and do things.

This is, this is a child.

You haven't earned this.

You were barely born.

I refuse to accept it.

The Rizzler.

How dare you?

How dare you?

It makes me feel old, is what this is getting down to.

How dare you?

That's what this really is.

A moment ago, Amy, you guffawed.

What did you guffaw about?

Somebody in chat mentioned that there are actually official Fortnite Magic the Gathering cards because there are.

You can get the Battle Buzz.

Somebody wanted to know: hey, is Magic the Fortnite of of card games well actually magic has fortnite in its card game yeah what

oh man that's crazy yeah you need to start a beef with the rizzler no no no no no everyone no no no no no no no no we can't beat the child

i can't i can't beat the rizzler the rizzler would tune into this stream right now and be like hey old man nice camera what is it 1984 you big loser and i'm done i'm done i can't he needs no context.

He doesn't care that I'm not at home right now.

He's going to be like, hey, nice balding asshole.

And I'm done.

We can't beat him.

He's the Rizzler.

He's got it.

He's got his whole life ahead of him.

It's over for me.

It's only downhill from here.

I can't beat him.

So is this

another specification we're making in the moment here now is whoever we start beef with has to be in or around our age range?

I'm thinking like,

what's Jack Nicholson up to?

We're the same age.

So yeah.

Combined?

That's 100%.

I think we can take him out.

I think we could take him out.

We can take him out.

We could Rizzler him.

Yeah, we could take him.

I feel like that it's so difficult, though, like trying to find a beef with somebody of the same age.

I like to think of like the Twitch streamers who their thing is like.

infighting with each other.

Oh my god.

And it's because they're like young and intentionally inciting like nonsense they're like i'm gonna be racist for fun and it's like oh can you not do that actually because i don't think i i don't think i would want to do that that would make me very uncomfortable oh

i can't imagine whenever yes whenever we don't need to name specific people but but

the the gears grinding in your head was so funny they're like whenever

yes

yeah yeah whenever somebody gets interviewed or something and they're like, well, yeah, I just say that stuff because it like drums up interest or engagement or whatever.

I'm like, I can't imagine.

I cannot imagine having that on my shortlist of ways to get people to watch me.

Like,

but it works.

What?

It works.

And that's what's so horrible about it.

It's just like, these people are.

Saying terrible things because they know it will get viewers.

This is also like huge on YouTube.

Like you make the like gotcha thumbnails of just like, is blank doing blank to blank?

And it's like, no, um, but you just made your like $2,000 off a video.

So good for you.

Yep.

Yeah.

I,

yeah, it almost seems like old man yells at cloud, but it definitely feels like

every time I look at younger influencer culture, I'm just so disappointed.

And I

want to say it's

that the ecosystem has changed, but I feel like it was the same.

Attention seeking has always been a thing.

I just don't know if it's like to the nth degree now.

But

I think the

consumerism aspect going hand in hand with like

current and newer creators.

I think that is different from how it was a few years ago.

Like,

you know, people coming on and being like, guess what?

You can have my cool YouTube version of Lunchables, you know, like that, that sort of stuff.

Oh, save it for the news section.

No, I gotta write that down.

No, I gotta write it down now.

All right.

Logan, Paul, Mr.

Beast, Lunchables.

Yep, it's happening.

We're doing this.

I wasn't gonna name names.

I was just saying lunchables.

It's okay.

I wrote it down in my note.

Okay, great.

It's okay.

Done.

Okay.

So you're going to launch your own lunchables knockoff, but yours will be better somehow.

And that's how you're going to engage in beef.

You wouldn't have done lunchables.

Like,

it's already a bottom-of-the-barrel product.

It's just cheese and crackers and like maybe a cold shitty pizza.

It's not ever great.

So them being like, it's better than lunchables.

Like, yeah, dude, everything is.

You do not buy lunchables because they're good.

Yeah, you do.

You buy them because you are a child and it is $2.

It is fun to assemble.

I don't.

I don't know.

There's a reason that there's so many videos out there now that are like, are you an adult that struggles to figure out what to eat?

You should make an adult lunchable.

Charcuterie?

Yeah.

It's like go to Trader Joe's, get yourself some brie and a salami.

Have just fun, kids.

Yeah, just throw some cheese, some crackers, some salam in there they make adult versions of that too you can just go to the trader joe's and it's already pre-packaged in the thing

and it's like yeah i got them crackers and some uh meats and some cheeses you're good

yeah hillshire farms has them too i i don't know man just lunchables that's what you went for i guess because their audiences skew younger this is we can't do this we're already in the news section i guess it's because their audiences skew younger i get it i'm not gonna whatever i just think you have all this money and all these resources and you went with lunchables.

Cool.

It doesn't affect me.

I'm not going to buy them or eat them or drink prime.

I think

part of the blowback, aside from just what it is, but I think part of the blowback is also that up to this point, it feels like Mr.

Beast and them would,

you know, when they started doing the what, Mr.

Beast burgers and all that sort of stuff, He'd he'd figure out how to spin it so that it was like No, but this is good actually It's really good actually.

It's good for the people making it and it's good for the people buying it.

It's really good.

It's a really good thing

and Everybody's starting to look at these these like products that are getting pooped out by everybody and going are they good though?

I don't know that I believe you I mean aside from all of the shit going on with Mr.

Beast anyway, but like but you know is the itself in a vacuum without the endorsement of some sort of e-celebrity?

Is it an okay product?

Exactly.

Yeah, it's like, I don't know.

So, like, Prime, that's the energy drink.

Yes.

Right?

Um, I don't drink energy, so I have no idea if it's any good.

How does it measure up to the monsters and everything else that are out there?

Does it make you sick and does it smell like piss and pixie dust?

Probably on all those things, yes.

I would imagine that.

Not on your shirt,

but yeah, it's it's it's one of those things where I feel like most internet personalities who sell products,

you have a time period in which to do it.

And then whether you land it then or not is all contingent on how much you just keep pumping out stuff.

A lot of people, I think we all know people who just constantly make things.

And I would imagine that the more you make, if it's of shit quality, the more over time people are going to be like, nah, dude.

And I think perhaps this is one of those cases where they've collectively created so many things and many of them have been failures that people are like, come on.

Come on.

Please stop.

But this could be the hit, man.

This could be the one.

The lunchables?

Do you think this is going to be it?

This could be it.

People are like, holy shit.

I don't know.

I haven't been a bit.

I'm not a little flack, but it's delicious.

I haven't been a 13-year-old in longer than probably at least 13 years.

So I don't, I don't know.

Who knows?

I choose to eat things that I like can get foodie about instead of being like,

yes, I do want a Capri Sun and crackers and a meat that is.

Well, like, you want it to be at least a kind of decent cracker and a kind of decent cheese and a kind of decent meat.

And I don't know, speaking of foodie things, I have another potential beef topic to pitch to you.

Oh my gosh.

How

both of you feel about eating insects?

I like to eat crickets.

I think crickets are a good, sustainable protein.

They're tasty.

They're kind of expensive now, but that's just because we're not like doing it in scale.

But like, if I gave you a handful of crickets or some cricket powder, yay or nay.

I'm super down.

God damn it.

Patrick, come on.

I'm sorry.

We're too

weirdly like

a very strange place to start beef.

You eat crickets.

It's because I hate the beef industry, even though I love the taste of beef.

You have to pay out the beef industry for the cricket and other insect industry.

A much more sustainable source.

Yes.

Absolutely.

The beef beef.

Yeah.

I'm super down for like the normalization of incorporating insects as a protein source.

100%.

I think there's a lot like mentally to get over for a lot of people.

And I've definitely met people who would have met you on this beef and been like, I would rather die than eat a bug.

I wrote it down like wondering, maybe that'll be it.

The other one I have written down here that's not food related.

These are mostly like food or like air conditioning related because I'm old.

Yes.

Yeah.

I have

just fine.

I have Astarian's just fine written down here.

Does that strike anything for either of you?

No, I wanted

from Baldur's Gate 3 Astarian?

Yeah.

No, I cheered actively when he banged a bear, so I'm fine with whatever.

There's video evidence of Dodger Knight in the audience.

That's true.

And I'm like, fuck that bear.

I'm very excited about it.

The whole thing was great.

So, whatever.

I still have not gotten very far in that game ever.

So I'm pretty neutral on Astarian.

Big fan.

More problematic vampires, please.

Oh, you should watch the interview with a vampire show.

I'm very camp.

It's very camp.

That's all, it's all problematic vampires.

Sure.

Yay.

I mean, I've read those books when I was a kid.

Anne Rice out here suing fanfiction authors, writing her own fan fiction.

Oh, my God.

I have been talking with so many people about this recently because like, I feel, I feel like that's a weird time capsule of information.

Like.

Were you around when people literally legally could not write fanfic of Anne Rice?

Yeah.

And it's so strange because I think she's kind of like turned around on it because she realized, oh, wait, this is actually very good advertising to have people engaging with my works as a fan.

But like people would write the disclaimers on their fan fiction.

And that was like an actual thing.

I don't own these characters anything.

It's like, it's just like, yeah, you're not making any money off of it.

It's fan works.

That's so normal now.

It was not in the 90s.

Yeah.

I think since she's passed away, I think her son is the one who has taken on that same vibe of like,

these are the things that my mother created and they are pure and perfect.

Please don't write weird shit about them.

But then

I didn't know she died.

She did.

She did.

Yeah.

Rest in peace, Anne Rice.

Thank you for writing a bunch of weird vampire shit for us.

I appreciate it.

But it's really similar to, did I talk about this already, Jesse?

You have never expressed how much you love vampire sex ever before.

And frankly, I am here for it.

I'm so sorry.

I was comparing it to Riverdale because that's the other big.

No, listen.

Riverdale at the Archie Comics, right?

Yeah.

I've heard it's an unhinged show.

It's very unhinged.

It's one of the most unhinged shows that's ever been created.

There's a reason.

There's a reason.

Wait, wait, let me tell you something.

So Anne Rice didn't want people to mess with her books to take liberties with her characters blah blah blah right the other well-known group that felt that way were the people the archie comics company they did not want people to do anything weird with the archie characters because they believed very strongly these characters are intended for children or or like young teens we don't want them to stumble onto things on the internet that are like Jughead given sloppy kisses to hot dogs, right?

Like we don't want that.

So no one is allowed to write fanfic about these characters or make fan art about these characters.

It was the same sort of situation of like, we don't want you to take liberties with our characters or do anything weird with them.

And now, look at us.

Archie Comics made Riverdale, which is unhinged and weird as shit.

And all of the characters are totally different than how they are in the comics.

And

it's a nightmare.

Is it a lot of sex and violence in that show, too?

A lot of sex and violence in that show.

Can I tell you?

I can't even spoil for you what happens in this show because you think I was having a stroke.

You think if I were to tell you what happens over the course of two seasons, between like

there is a moment where it goes off the rail in between seasons, and I'm just,

I've never seen anything like it.

I don't know what they were thinking.

I don't know what was happening over there, but it's absolutely insane.

And I'm so proud that it exists because it means someone had the creative license to go crazy.

With the interview with the vampire show,

it's not that they took the characters and like what happens in the books and like made it unrecognizably weird, like with Riverdale, but they did take

the story and change it in a way that I think was an improvement 100%, but that I'm surprised was allowed to happen, I guess.

So yeah, if you if you wind up watching it,

like to start through, because I'm I was actually thinking about there's another archie comic, uh, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, I think started as an archie comic, became the sitcom that's very cute, became the cartoon, and then there was the more recent Sabrina the Teenage Witch, which is like dark and edgy and full of sex and murder.

Um, right, and I'm wondering if that was around the same time

where like the whole company was just like, yeah, we're cool with this now.

Yeah, I think they were, I,

I don't have any confirmation of this.

I I haven't like looked at any interviews or anything like that, or anything that might like say this explicitly, but I've assumed that they were like, we've been around forever and people are not buying the Archie Double Digest anymore.

People aren't going to the grocery store and buying jughead number 58.

You know, we gotta, we gotta get people back into this property.

And somebody finally was like, we gotta appeal to a wider range of ages.

We got to like turn this into a thing.

And they certainly went for it.

They, um,

chat has confirmed Riverdale and Sabrina had crossovers.

Oh, same universe.

Interesting.

Yeah, they were on different networks, though, because I think one was like whatever WBB came, and the other one is Netflix.

Netflix is Sabrina, yeah.

Cool.

All right.

I mean, if Archie Comics has business, I'm happy for them.

I like met the CEO lady of it once because her son ditched her on a college tour and she came to hang out with me instead.

And I'm like, thanks.

I guess I look approachable.

Let's go hang out.

It was like asking me, like, what do you think would make like the comics cooler?

And I was like, I mean, you guys have Transformers and Sonic the Hedgehog.

That's all you need, right?

So true.

Yeah.

I don't, I'm not going to get into detail.

I'm just going to give you some.

So there is a website that has listed all of the best, wildest storylines from Riverdale.

And this is without any context.

Zero context.

Kevin's tickle videos.

Archie bear fight.

The moth men.

Men.

Sabatha tries to stop the MLK assassination.

Julian, the haunted doll.

The gargoyle king.

The secret history jughead version?

What does that even mean?

Archie goes to war?

Back to the family.

I heard about Archie going like back in time to war.

Yeah.

Dark Betty.

Dark Betty.

What does that even?

Dark Betty's pretty early on.

Yeah.

The Black Hood.

Rivervale,

which is the paranormal dimension.

The gang gets superpowers.

Come on.

And then, of course, apparently Percival Pickens.

An immortal villain who has his own magical powers that he made with a deal, that he made in a deal with the devil back in the day.

Back in the day.

Archie, the or Riverdale, the TV show sounds like it's going

very strange places.

Yeah, I think it's done now.

But if you, if you don't think that you're going to ever take the time to watch it, I don't blame you.

There are some really good videos that are like, here is a recap of every season of Riverdale.

And they are so funny because if you check out for even like, a couple of minutes and try to check back in, you're like, huh?

Wait, what's going on?

It's good.

I just, I, I, I did a deep dive into Percival Pickens because I'm very excited about this character.

And my favorite part about it is just, this is a little quick bio.

It says, um, he made his immortal deal with the devil back in the pilgrim days.

That's what it says.

It also so happens that he was from originally Rivervale, but ended up in Riverdale as the result of a bomb explosion.

So he sets out to remake Riverdale to his liking, whether it's by releasing biblical plagues upon the residents or trying to build a ghost train to bring them to the realm of the dead.

What is this?

What is this show?

This is kind of reminding me of, did either of you ever get into the show once upon a time?

No.

No, that was the like Disney villains and people.

It's like,

yeah, they try to be like, no, it's just all fairy tale character, but it's Disney.

It's, it's Disney characters.

but yeah they all exist in the same world and they're all interconnected in weird ways and it's it's the same sort of thing where if somebody's like oh my gosh i have to tell you about this plot line that happens in once upon a time

you

you

lose it by like halfway through you're like i can't follow this anymore because because what do you mean What do you mean that Rumpelstiltskin is Peter Pan's son and shit?

Like, what do you mean?

You know?

Yeah, it's great.

I just don't.

I keep looking at all these plot lines and I don't understand how any.

I assume trying to stop the MLK assassination has to deal with them going back in time.

And seems very like Umbrella Academy, where they tried to stop JFK's assassination.

Anyway, those are all things that happened.

And I can't believe that's things that occurred.

Also, what have you done?

I promised chat that I would wear this hat, and I forgot about it it because why it looks hilarious when the headphones are on.

What do you mean, why?

Because I had been wearing it on, if you don't know, if you don't remember, I am digital during the week.

This is my breakaway from the digital world.

And so I kept being like, guys, I got this hat and it's so warm and it's so weird.

And then I promised you.

I actually like it now because it makes you look like you have a giant fat head.

Look.

Like a big old noggin.

And I'm here for it.

Gnome hat.

I think that's kind of cute.

Like you're a little woodland creature.

You're supposed to wear it this way, and it's supposed to like hug your forehead here,

right?

But you do.

You look like an old, like a little babushka mushroom lady.

And you want to like make me some soup, but mushroom soup.

I would love to see it.

Would that be cannibalism?

Doesn't matter.

You still make it anyway.

But I like it this way more, I think.

I wonder if that's because you have the big headphones on under it though like it's not designed to fit over big checky headphones really not it's it's doing this for me yeah but that's okay

any more beef so we can start do we have what's on what else is on the list don't turn your ac on unless it's over 85 out that one oh that one really gets to some people oh

Gotta conserve electricity, guys.

Come on.

Limited resources out here.

It's true.

Those condensers don't run on nothing.

We don't have have AC at all.

Exactly.

It applies much less to the Europeans.

This is an American thing for the most part.

And also, like, there's a lot of legislation in European countries that are like, yeah, actually,

we do keep our AC at like 85.

It's like, stop the people from having a heat stroke.

And that's it.

Right.

Yeah.

Like,

I disagree.

But not in a way that I want to make it the hill I die on.

Like, I'm all right.

Like, you can make whatever temperature you want and I'll live.

But, I 80?

What is your perfect temperature in your apartment?

Oh, my perfect?

If I could keep it 72 all the time, I'd be so happy.

Don't you?

I could do it.

72.

You don't.

Listen, you got to sacrifice your comfort.

It's for the planet, guys.

You got to lean into it.

What's this planet ever done for me?

Hmm.

Made apples.

Do you like apples?

Most of Mountain Dew, man-made.

Doritos, man-made.

Lunchables, man-made.

That's all I eat.

That's all I need.

That's it.

Apples?

That's it?

More like trash, trashables.

Crapples.

Crapples.

Oh, God.

This is why we need you on the show.

This is why you're here.

Thank you so much for inviting me.

I love getting to try to start beef about types of apples.

I have types of apples written down, but if you don't like apples, that's not going to work.

Hold on.

Envy apples are the best apples.

There, done.

Or What are the apples?

Oh, I love them.

One of the super sweet sugar hybrid ones.

I think they're like out of New Zealand or something like that.

No,

I'm a Macintosh apple, a granny spit.

They got to be a little sour.

Nature made these the perfect level of sweetness.

Why just screw with them?

I know.

Envy apples are some man-made hybrid monster created in a lab.

Oh, they're so good.

We typically, if we're going to buy apples, we buy pink lady apples, which are pretty sweet.

All of the apples that grow on our farm are so sour, insanely sour apples.

Me over.

I'll just, I'll destroy those.

Yes.

Okay.

I can give you some apples.

You can look at the pigs and go, pigs, pigs.

And I'll feel great.

That'll be great for me.

I love the idea of you just in their backyard with apple cores around you.

Just like...

I'm sorry.

I eat the apple cores.

So there's not going to be any cores around me.

Damn.

I used to.

I used to eat the apple cores when I was in high school, and it made me feel so cool.

I don't do it anymore, though.

I'm sorry.

What was the last bit?

It made me feel really cool.

Why?

Why did it make me feel cool?

Did you never go through like a period of your life where you were like, if I do this weird thing, if I do this thing that most people don't do, I'll feel...

Like there's something that sets me apart.

You know?

That was me with Apple Core.

Like, yeah, I mean,

there, like, that saves me a trip to the trash can.

I also do a lot of foraging.

So, like,

I will show up in random people's yards just eating their apples.

And by foraging, I also do mean trespassing.

There's, they kind of go hand in hand.

I just.

When you think about like youth rebellion,

you think about like an emo phase, or like you start smoking cigarettes, or like maybe you go out and you stay out too late just to push your parents' boundaries.

You were like,

I ate the apple core.

Bebel.

That's true.

I didn't really go through a rebellious stage.

I think it would have been really good for me, but I didn't do it.

Yeah, I didn't eat that.

I didn't eat a lot of seeds as a kid because I definitely had the whole like, it'll grow in your stomach.

And I was like, not happening to me.

Oh, no, you got, you got like old wives tailed into the worst, just like, I'm gonna have an apple tree growing in my tummy.

Yeah, what is it that there's like a really negligent amount of in apples?

Cyanide.

Cyanide, that's what it is.

People love to be like, don't eat that.

You'll die.

There's cyanide.

You have to eat like nothing but apple seeds and like chew them very thoroughly for the whole day.

It's like 10 pounds of apple seeds and then you'll get cyanide poison.

But oh my god, think of your digestive tract.

It would be terrible.

Oh.

No.

Not doing that.

No, I'm all right.

I want to risk the poisoning.

Like, that just.

Like, if you're going to go out with to like intentionally cyanide poison yourself, don't do it like that.

I'm sure they sell it concentrated.

It's just a lot of work.

It's too much work.

Too much work.

There's no arsenic in it.

So there is sometimes arsenic.

That's a heavy metal that shows up in just various like fruits, vegetables, leaves, especially.

If it was grown in soil that has that, it does stay in your system.

It's tiny amounts, and that's just in like anything that was produced.

It's like, it depends on where it was grown.

Sometimes it'll be none, but like, it's the same thing with lead.

I mentioned foraging before.

If I go foraging for Japanese knotweed, eat the invaders.

I can't eat it in half the places around Boston because our lead levels are too high and I don't want to give myself lead poisoning.

That's interesting.

I wouldn't have thought about that, but that's so, yeah, that's really interesting.

It's mushroom season over here.

Everybody's starting to look for mushrooms too yeah we have our um hen of the woods popping up right around now it's always really nice and honey mushrooms i was out this weekend and there were a lot of honey mushrooms i don't think i've ever seen a honey mushroom i'm gonna look them up they grow in clusters they're not very pretty though

honey mushroom they have such a sweet name

they do I assume they're named honey mushrooms because of their color.

Yeah, they're like a non-column.

And they're adorable.

I mean, they grow in clusters.

That's cute.

Uh, I had a

mushroom and truffle mac and cheese last night.

That, like, that was

mushrooms.

Am I right?

Mushrooms.

Oh, that's so fancy.

But, like, it's mac and cheese, but you got the truffle on it.

That makes it fancy, right?

Right.

And then it had mushroom stuff.

It was great.

Yeah.

So that was mushrooms.

They're delicious.

Well, some of them are.

Delicious or deadly.

The Venn diagram.

And sometimes there'll be like a little bit of both.

There's a very fun forageable out here.

It's, I think, part of the inky cap family.

So we have like shaggy inky caps and things like that.

And there's two of them that look essentially the same.

And they're both edible, but one of them is always edible.

And the other one will...

either hospitalize you or kill you if you've had alcohol 24 hours before or 24 hours after it.

So even if you have the safe one, you have to be like, well, bringing these home for dinner.

Nobody have any alcohol.

Please.

You might die.

That's wild.

It's so weird.

I guess there's some chemical reaction that like metabolizes it into a toxin.

That's really interesting.

While we're talking mushrooms.

Yes.

Where do the two of you stand on the myceli network and mushrooms slowly taking over the planet and having emotions and feeling things and also being sentient.

Where are we on that?

Did you guys see the video of a mushroom controlling a robot?

Yes.

Oh, it's like sending little signals.

Yeah, I think it's very interesting.

Should we be worried about mushrooms?

We all die eventually and get consumed by the fungus unless you get embalmed.

That's what I'm saying.

Should we be worried about mushrooms?

Because like they seem to have a plan.

I think the plan is just kind of keep going.

But no, I wish I could talk so to my psyllium network.

Like, let me like tap into that and be like, do you want to read my Transformers fan fiction?

Yes or no?

And they're like, I have no concept of any of this because I am mushroom.

That's where you're wrong.

Mushrooms, I'm pretty sure

80% of the internet.

At this point, I'm convinced mushrooms run the internet.

You think that all that generative AI is actually just mushrooms?

Mushrooms.

Yep.

Yep.

Oh my God.

Yep.

That makes sense.

When you go on those websites and you type in like

Jesse Cox, but with mushroom head, that a mushroom made that.

And it was like, I know exactly what to do here, please.

You know that like classic kit experiment where it's like, do my flowers grow better if I talk to them and play them music sort of thing?

We know that

mushrooms can create music if they're hooked up in a certain way.

So I do wonder if you could, I'm sure that there are experiments out there like this, but like depending on the sort of music that is played around them,

or if you're reading Transformers erratic fanfic to them, if they behave differently,

if the like electrical currents come in from them.

All I can think about is a mushroom being like, robots in disguise.

That's all I want now.

Like a super fan.

It's just like, I'm so glad.

The other person was reading me Harry Potter fanfiction and I'm just not that into it.

Finally, robots.

This is it for me.

I don't know.

I feel like those experiments, I think they've distilled them now to just, oh, it turns out the plants like vibration because it stimulates their like capillary functions

and it like helps the like various fluids flow through them better.

But I love the idea of this.

No, it's their personal taste and enjoyment.

Yeah, no, they just like it.

Some like funk music.

Some like jazz.

Some like house and lo-fi chill.

It's who they are.

100%.

It's like a rubber plant.

He's like, hey, man.

Nice, nice.

There's lo-fi chill everything there, too.

That mushroom would be eating so well.

Yeah.

What other beefs?

Any more beefs?

Do we have beefs?

You guys are not easy to beef with.

No, that's why we were counting on you to bring the beefs.

Sorry, they're mostly food-related.

Pineapple and pizza.

Yay.

It's like, I love it.

Salty and sweet goes together.

Yeah, I think pineapples.

Yeah, Yeah, I think people can eat whatever they want on their pizza.

It's their pizza, whatever.

I'm so sorry.

This is hard, isn't it?

Yeah, I'm sorry.

This is why we're having trouble.

You need to have on a guest who is not afraid to just be the absolute worst person.

So you.

You want to have that person on because they annoy us.

You have to just associate yourself with the worst.

And I don't even know who the worst is because I'm not in touch with those.

You want to associate with them.

Or do you need to start fighting 13-year-olds to get the Rizzler on here?

Ah, okay.

You know what?

Worried about the Rizzler.

I'm going to go to the two options.

Because in my mind, I think I could take the Rizzler, but in reality, I'm worried the Rizzler would be like way too cool.

How do you get the, like, how do you get the name of the Rizzler that young?

There's got to be something there.

You can't just say it's your name and everyone agrees.

What's going on with you, Riz?

I'm going to call you that now.

Little Riz.

That's your name.

Little Riz.

Yep.

Do you want to come onto the Geek Enders podcast?

Little Riz, what's your deal?

How'd you get to get that name?

Little Rez, before

we invite you on the podcast.

Yeah.

Happen.

Oh, my goodness.

He didn't come on here and be like, you two old farts, shut up.

No.

Then I'll skateboard away.

He'll be like, I'm out of here.

Eat my shorts.

Then I'll skateboard away.

Eat my shorts.

He'd be like, you guys are so skibbity Ohio.

And then he would skip on there.

I know what that means, though.

So I would understand and be like, you're right.

We are pretty lame.

I am not quite Ohio.

We are quite the Ohio, aren't we?

Yes.

Well, I mean, we dipped into it already.

What else is on the deck for news, Jessup?

Well, well, well.

Well, well, well.

Oh, boy.

Well, when it comes to news, besides the world of lunchables, that's a whole thing.

I'm sure many of you have seen on the last day or so that Nintendo and the Pokemon Company are filing a lawsuit against PAL World.

It is an injunction against infringement and compensation for damages on the grounds that Palworld infringes multiple patent rights.

And

that's going to be an interesting case.

I feel like it's one of those, it made a bunch of money, so they're like, yo, we should get some of that.

Because I don't know, it's.

I'm not sure.

Did you either of you play PAL World?

No.

And it wasn't very Pokemon.

Like, visually, it has some Pokemon aspects.

But to me, it was, it was Ark.

Like, that's, it's ARC.

It's Arc Survival evolved, but that's how it sort of switched to me.

Yeah, it's very clear, at least from my perspective.

I was lured into playing it because it seemed like Pokemon with guns.

But the gameplay itself, the vibe of it, is not Pokemon with guns.

It is exactly what you're talking about.

It's a survival game.

You're building stuff.

You're using your little guys to fend off attackers.

You're going, you're fighting bosses with it.

It's a completely different vibe.

So it doesn't feel Pokemon at all.

Yeah.

And honestly, if we wanted to make a list of games that are literally, you walk around and collect monsters and fight with them, that list would be gigantic.

So many people have made Pokemon like that.

That's what a patent was.

Yeah, I don't know what patents are being, at least supposedly infringed upon, right?

I mean, I guess it could be that there are some POW characters that look very much like Pokemon characters, but they aren't exactly.

And I'm not sure legally what you can do with that.

But I imagine even if Nintendo can't win, they'll throw resources to punish POW World for making the attempt, which will cost them both a ton of money.

But Nintendo can make money hand over fist and Pal World's only with Palworld.

So

that's probably what will end up happening as sort of a punitive, hey, no one else do this ever again, because if you do, we're going to do the exact same thing to you to punish you, rather than...

anything will really result from this.

But I honestly don't know.

Some people in chat are saying it has to do with you throwing a ball to capture the creature in.

I mean, man.

Make them pyramids.

Yeah.

You could definitely change it, but I mean, if that's what it is, it's it's uh all right.

I mean, yeah, but you could make a ball shooter gun or you could, yeah, like pyramids or boxes or whatever.

It could be anything.

And if they changed it, then what is the legal ramifications of that?

Like, do they have a lawsuit then?

I don't know.

It's above my pay grade, but that is the big thing everyone's talking about right now.

And

yeah.

And so people are just like, man, Nintendo, we gotta do that, dude.

I'm sure

it's a little like, they did the whole thing, but they didn't want people like streaming their games or making YouTube videos of their games because it's like,

that's our content.

You can't make money off of it.

And it's like,

this is advertising for you.

What do you want here?

This is like Ann Rice into fan fiction all over again.

This is, this is, again, a reminder.

This is the same company.

Nintendo's the company that when people hosted all the old catalogs of music, because Nintendo wouldn't, Nintendo sued to have them shut down and taken off YouTube.

So like...

Nintendo does what Nintendo do, and they've always done this.

If you've ever worked with them on anything or been in some sort of like influence or anything, telling you you could there's been a time where i made a video of me at a nintendo event that got flagged by nintendo so like they don't

legally they don't give a damn what you're doing they will come after you just because that's what they are they're very aggressive when it comes to their ip and so

nintendo be nintendo nintendo do be nintendo

yep

also

if you were uh curious as we talked about kind of last week but um i'll say it again.

Transformers comes out today.

Transformers 1 is out today.

Got some pretty good reviews, apparently.

And it's,

you know, animated.

They're on Cybertron.

And like.

Like a month ago.

By the way, it turns out you can be like a real Transformers pervert and still get invited to early screenings.

It's very cute.

I think that appeals more to kids than adults, but it is legions beyond the Michael Bay movies.

So if you didn't like those, you might like this.

It's a cute animated movie.

Awesome.

Yeah, I would imagine, very much like the animated versions of all the other Transformer shows that exist, it probably has that same vibe.

And yes, they are leagues above any Michael Bay film that ever existed.

They're just,

I do not like those films at all.

It breaks my heart because the potential is there.

Never mind.

Yeah.

And yeah, sure.

Beast of Wars would be neat.

Chat, Beast Wars would be great.

But here we are.

Awesome.

Also, Beast Wars, dude.

Beast Wars is awesome.

Yeah.

Does not hold up.

Go watch some scenes from it and be like, wow, this

repeated texture background with these amorphous blobs are just real great.

I don't want to ruin the memory.

Do you remember the show Reboot?

It's the same company.

Exact same vibe.

Yeah.

Yes.

Where you watch it and you're like, brah, no.

This is rough.

Yeah, early, early

CG.

It was a treat.

Also, of course, this week we got The Penguin out on HBO.

I heard that's amazing.

Very excited for that.

But more importantly, that comes from the universe of The Batman.

And the Batman, of course, Robert Pattinson.

And that's because this week we got a new trailer for Robert Pattinson's movie that is freaking me out because I'm pretty sure it's the exact same plot as the game The Alters.

And I just did a bunch of stuff for the alters.

So I'm like, okay.

And so I'm really interested in it.

But basically, Robert Pattinson is being cloned repeatedly for space exploration, and then he keeps dying, and they keep recloning him over and over and over and over again.

I guess it's the plot of the movie.

I think it's called Mickey 17.

Yeah, Mickey 17.

The trailer is very well cut together, too.

Yeah, and it seems funny too, which is I think pretty interesting.

A lot of, yeah, it does have a little moon vibe.

Although it's being played more towards comedy and the idea of him just like, oh, man.

And the way they're dealing with that universe, I think, is going to be interesting.

So I'm serious how it's going to turn out.

But

I'm here for the creative Robert Pattinson that has been like, you know what, Effett?

I'm no longer like a sexy vampire.

I'm going to do

some of his series lately to be a goofy.

Lighthouse is one of my favorite.

That movie is awesome.

It's one of those things where it was, that was the first time I got to see Robert Patterson actually get to act.

It's like, oh my God, he is good at this.

I'm so sorry you were, your breakout thing was Twilight.

You deserved so much better.

Yes, absolutely.

It feels like he got paid out for Twilight and was like, all right, I'm going to spend the rest of my life just acting and doing fun stuff.

And every once in a while, he shows up as Batman, but most of the time he's like in a movie, you're like, what the heck is this?

And it turns out that Daniel Radcliffe's exactly the same.

Daniel Radcliffe does some unhinged, weird shit because he's like, guys, I made bank.

I'm good.

I'm just going to do stuff that's fun now.

I am completely here for that.

I'm not happy for him, though.

And also, I think that he looks like he's going to do great work in this movie.

And he's doing like a funny voice, too.

Like, he's got a kind of like a weird guy voice.

I'm a little hermie guy called.

Great.

A big fan of that stuff.

So I'm looking forward to that.

And that was the big trailer that we got as well.

And yeah, even though I haven't seen it, I know that Agatha All Long is out.

Haven't seen that at all.

And I've been informed just now, I hate this so much.

The Rizzler is getting a podcast.

So maybe we can't actually start a beef.

What?

Oh, what are you doing?

You have a chance.

The Rizzler's getting a podcast.

Don't look at me.

I just know the Rizzler's getting a podcast.

It's happening.

Oh, my goodness.

That sounds like the name of a light novel.

Yeah.

So

here we are.

But yeah, so a a lot of cool stuff.

Mostly just things that we were talking about last week.

I've kind of come full circle, but yeah.

The big thing is that we are getting some fun releases that are not necessarily new.

Okay.

Of course, we have on the 25th Lollipop Chainsaw Repop, which is the re-release of Lollipop Chainsaw.

And

it has a version that's like less violent in it now.

So you can can like not get gored out, but still be horny.

And so that's a thing.

The whole of the game is that there's a scantily clad cheerleader who's kicking butt while her useless boyfriend sits around.

What?

Why would you kick out the violence?

I don't know why.

I'm very curious to see, but my favorite part is the Collector's Edition sold out almost immediately.

And it's because it has a statue, which I think I was like, of course, of course.

But then I kept looking at the statue like,

it's just going to be like plastic crap.

Like, really?

It doesn't look like a good statue.

We're just, no, it's just, we're all.

Sometimes, y'all, we're a little too horny.

And I want to let you know, $150 is not...

Just pick up the game.

Just, I don't know.

It has a very positive.

I would imagine, yeah, the original game was great.

I had a ton of fun playing the original back in like PS3 or whatever.

So I've no doubt it's going to be fun to play and then get positive reviews i just sometimes i think collectors editions are just like guys

that's they're selling you trash and you're buying it but whatever it's hard because sometimes you don't know until it shows up like the quality of it

people like collectibles even if they're that's true high quality sculptures or whatever else and besides i'm looking at it right now

it's probably got an upskirt you know that the like as you said this game is for perverts.

Like, that's, yeah, that's the appeal.

It knows what it is, and honestly, I'm here for it.

The thing that the problem that I have is every, the last collectors edition I got, and I shouldn't have, was for Dead Space.

Everything that came in that Dead Space Collection's Edition was like the crappiest piece of plastic I've ever had.

I was so disappointed.

I was like, this is the real remastered that, you like, redid the game.

Just so I'm heartbroken about all collections editions.

I will say sometimes they're awesome.

The Baldur's Gate 3 one knocked it out of the park.

That's a great one.

Do I have it?

No, because I don't do collections editions.

But sometimes they turn out awesome.

I don't know, but I guess it comes down to the like

how much money they can afford to spend on a collection's edition.

For sure.

So I think there's also like pre-ordering a game is God, it's like pre-ordering games these days is so iffy.

Dicey.

But like this is a re-release of a game.

So like you know what the game's gonna be like if you liked it originally you'd probably like it again

yeah yeah i feel like for most people it was a awesome i get to play this again on a modern console so like it'll look even better

right so i don't know so funny i have a ps3 that's like hooked up to a tv we played that game i mean my partner and i this past year just to be like does this hold up oh it's pretty fun except some segments are really obnoxious there's like timed segments that are like,

I guess I got to do this the eighth time because I was

too slow.

Yeah, it has that.

It definitely has a

like an of the time period vibe.

I had the exact same experience playing through Near Gestalt where I was like, man, this game is awesome.

It feels so good, but also feels very 2010.

You're doing missions where it's like, please collect 40 mutton.

It's like, what the?

In my weird game about robots and possible, like, what the hell?

Yeah, it's not.

not like killing sheep you literally run around the open world murdering sheep until you get 40 mutton and i'm like this sucks what am i doing but then the game is layered so it's like if you don't do all the side quests for the first half you will never get to do them again so you gotta do them bro i'm like i hate you i hate this i just want to play my weird game that's weird

yeah it's a very strange vibe but it's of the time for sure where they thought like this is what gamers want collecting shit and like

so that's a whole thing.

Then

we get Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, which I think is going to be the big thing that a lot of people are talking about.

Very excited about that one.

You know, it is

playa Zelda.

Yay!

Yeah, you actually play as the titular character.

Finally, it

should be interesting to see.

Finally, this is like the third game we've gotten to do this.

Oh, that was that was all.

The CDI games don't count.

Nope.

Phantom Hourglass doesn't count.

Nope.

Dang, that's what I have lineback.

I loved him.

He's like the most divorced dad Zelda character.

Yeah.

The best thing about this is I'm glad they went back to the style of the Game Boy slash like Link to the Past vibe.

Big fan of this.

Very excited.

Also, mostly because the wand is kind of a fun mechanic instead of being like your normal, instead of it just being like Legend of Zelda where you play as Link and they just replace Link with Zelda and you just stab things.

They were like, here's a new mechanic.

It's a puzzle game in a different way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I'm curious to see how much of the puzzle will be

infuriating and how much will be creative.

You know, because sometimes you can do really fun things and sometimes it's like,

move this exactly here.

And if you don't, the block dissolves and you have to do it again, asshole.

And you're like, I'm hoping that to some degree it's forgiving from a selfish

place because my kid has just started getting into Zelda.

And so I'm like, this is great.

What perfect timing, you know, much more simple than like Breath of the Wild and stuff.

It's going to be a much more straightforward game, I think.

Aside from the puzzle mechanic of like, I absorbed this thing and now I can recreate it.

Right.

So I'm really curious how forgiving it is going to be when when it comes to like maneuvering the puzzles and like understanding them.

And, you know, yep.

And then over on PC, two things I'm very excited for that I cannot wait.

Out now, very excited to play it is Frostpunk 2.

Loved Frostpunk 1.

The idea of building a city in a post-apocalyptic snowy wasteland and keeping everyone alive.

Except this time, of course, there is

a whole system of like

a Congress where you have to like sway people to vote for different things.

So instead of you just kind of like, hey, I'm going to be in charge, there's a bunch of different groups and those groups have needs and wants.

And so you have to sort of like kiss their butt to make things happen.

Very excited for that.

The first one was great.

One of my biggest complaints is that it made...

So imagine you're in a post-apocalyptic world

and you have to keep your people alive through this inferno, this fire, this forge that's keeping people alive.

All I wanted in the first one was to start a religion where when you died, instead of your options were bury them or like, I don't know what it was, but it was something equally stupid.

I was like, throw their body in the fire.

Let their warmth keep us alive.

Not an option.

So I'm hoping that will be an option in this one because I complained a bunch to the devs.

Like, too much sense.

Why can't we just do that?

Just throw them in the fire.

And then they gave their life to keep us warm.

It's symbolic.

It makes sense.

It's how I'd run my post-apocalypse society but

what are you gonna do so

bodies getting used up yeah it was either a snow pit or a cemetery and i was like nah nah nah burn them snow pit you're just makes sense

and body for the rest of time yeah it sounds like the game's gonna be fun though oh yeah it looks very cool and um you send people out on little missions it's it's a blast and then

What might be my chill game of the year?

I'm very excited to play this.

Tiny Glade comes out.

I think on the 23rd, I think.

Yo, I'm ready for this.

I enjoy building my little houses, my little castles, and with like some chill music and just zoning out.

I must stress.

I don't know if it's a great stream game, but my God, is it a fun thing to just play and be like, yeah.

Look at my castle.

The dev made a video being like, in case you're worried about what happens to the sheep, if you try to build on the sheep,

they can always maneuver out from under any building that you place on them.

And if they're on a mountain and you need to get rid of the mountain, they have a little parachute.

And if you put water underneath the sheep, they have a life preserver and they can get back to the shore.

I was like, it's so cute.

Yeah, I'm excited for all that.

There's many more other games that are out.

We talked about a bunch last week, so I'm not too stressed.

But hey, give it the old once-over when you look through your games because there's many coming out right now.

Nice.

Yep.

I've decided.

That's it for me.

I got nothing else for you.

No, I like your news summary.

You've got so many good ones.

I am really excited for the new Zelda game, in part because this is the second game they're doing in this very cutesy, bubbly style.

Fingers crossed that the game strikes the right balance of being difficult enough to be engaging, but also like friendly enough that kids can play it.

Or, like, even if they're not that good at it, still

get to play around in the game without getting frustrated.

It's hard to find the right balance, though.

Yes, that's that's the thing from my perspective as well.

Is like, if it's accessible enough, my kid will just do the exact same shit over and over and over again.

Like, she doesn't, she doesn't necessarily crave progression yet.

It's just, can she engage with the world and use the mechanics in whatever way she finds fun?

Then, then great.

You know, then we both can enjoy it.

But, like, games like, sorry.

No, I was just gonna say, I'm curious.

I know that Clark's been playing Zelda stuff,

but from your scriptors, it sounds like

it is simply just existing in the world rather than trying to do anything in it.

So, I think this is why I think Animal Crossing is like a really good first sort of rpg ish game for little kids because

it it um gave her the concept of

you have a checklist of things that you need to do in order to have this new thing or see this new thing happen right so she'd she'd play animal crossing and have a nice time but then she'd be like wait how did you get that building and it'd be like i did the things that the game's telling you to do you know and so she's starting to bring that idea into other games that she's played now.

Like, wait, if I want to get to that place, what do I have to do to get there?

You know, but yeah, with Zelda, it's mostly been like, I'm Link and I run around and I have a glider and sometimes I can jump off stuff and use a glider.

The second something attacks her, freaks out.

So we haven't, we haven't gotten there yet.

You know, we tried CatQuest.

Anytime something tried to attack her in CatQuest, she handed it to me.

And I was like, all right, I see where we're at now when it comes to like combat and games, you know?

That's very cute.

More just non-not violence, but not farming games where you're doing a bit of exploration.

Yeah, there are goals, but not like combat goals.

Yeah.

It's interesting to think about just

it's a different generation of a different style of video game, but I very much remember being a kid over at my Uncle Phil's house, and he had a regular Nintendo, and he had Castlevania 2.

And in Castlevania 2, as you know, it's like, what a terrible night for a curse.

Then night starts.

Every time that would happen, I'd hand the controller back because I was terrified of it.

Nighttime scared the crap out of me in that game.

I would not play it.

There was a time where I slept on the floor of his apartment as a kid and couldn't get to sleep because I was afraid the nighttime monsters would get me.

Like, that's where I was with that game.

So, same vibe, just a different generation.

But yeah, I get it.

That was me and Ocarina of Time because it came out when I was like six.

And when it was nighttime as Kid Link, once I got the Master Shield and the zombies start coming out, the Stalfos, I would just hide under the Master Shield and they would just bang against it.

And I would stay bent over under the shield until it was daytime.

Cause I was scared.

It was scary.

Yeah, it is scary

yeah and i wonder if it also has to do with fear of screwing up or dying in the game and also there's like an adult around like you don't want to i don't look stupid in front of them like there's a lot of layers to it where you're just like here you do it so i'll live yeah i think currently it's a combination of yeah it's just scary right but also

I have tiny hands and I'm still understanding what buttons do what and trying to, in a high stress environment remember what I'm supposed to do to get out of the scary situation.

The shutdown happens and it's like, no, you do it.

You know?

Especially in like Tears of the Kingdom, Breath of the Wild, where the controller is using every single button.

There's not a button that like doesn't do something relevant.

Yeah.

So have you tried a game like,

you know,

like a cozy,

I don't know, like either a tower building like we're getting or like a cozy, like I'm a little dog and I walk around and I go bark, bark.

Like those games exist.

They do.

Yeah.

Somebody mentioned a short hike.

I played that game forever ago.

That sort of a thing, I'm sure, would be would be really cute for her.

Yeah.

At least it would establish like a, hey,

everything's cool and I can hang out and do stuff and get like, you know, just play a game and have fun.

Yeah.

They mentioned like the turn-based Pokemon games too.

Yeah, I think that that's like a very great starting point because there's no timer.

There's only four options.

So you can't have like decision paralysis too bad.

That's true.

Turn-based stuff, honestly, now that you say that, is like really good for little kids, I think.

Yeah, but then they'll become

turn-based gamers and then they're lost to all other games.

You try to get them to play an FPS, they're going to be terrible at it.

It's all going to be bad.

Fighting games, never happening.

You're right.

You got to get her on Unreal Tournament.

You gotta get her in Doom, Quake, whatever's coming out these days.

Start with the hyperbolt and move down from there.

Okay, yeah.

I'll download StarCraft right away, guys.

Top level, top level play.

Drop her right into online play immediately.

Okay, yeah.

You're gonna need to zerg swarm.

Honey, Zerg Swarm.

Build.

No, no, it's all farm-based deer.

You have to have the resources.

So you're gonna need to get another base going and harvest those crystals.

Sweetie, no no sweetie you can't make the big ones the big ones are for fun the little ones are for winning in this household we win so zerglings it is

oof what are you

that's that's how you make your kid be like mother i've decided i hate games to be into sports yeah

I don't like this.

I'm going to be a hiker.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There are worse things in the world than going outside

it's true i have chosen long distance running i will become a triathlete

so happy for her honestly

good i decided to live a normal life mother

I will not be a mushroom person on the internet.

I will, in fact, be a young woman living my life.

Goodbye.

I think it gives them gamers, though.

Like, the generation of youth that they grew up with gaming being on like phones and stuff so it's it's everywhere it is everywhere yeah

i know i'm honest real question yeah

mushroom person cool or not cool for a child

i how long do you think this will last

me being a mushroom person how long my opinion of you as a mushroom person oh well

there isn't a bias she's not coming at it from a from an unbiased place because she sees the mushroom person and knows the mushroom person is me.

Right.

And she still is at an age where I'm one of her best friends in the whole wide world and she thinks that I'm pretty cool.

That's cool.

So I don't know how long that'll last.

But currently, she likes the mushroom person.

Because I feel like it's a good indicator of when exactly you know.

Like, oh boy, my kid's aging up.

Because then you would know when she's like, mom, can you not be the mushroom today?

Then you know, oh no, it's gonna be a rough couple years.

Yeah, yeah,

I don't know.

All I know is that my kid, um, every couple of days goes, When are you gonna do a Minecraft stream?

So we're, I think we're a ways off from that, but what do I know?

When are you gonna do a Minecraft stream?

Yeah, when are you doing a Minecraft stream?

You should do a Minecraft stream.

You should start your own server.

I did, I did do, I did do one on a on a server with some friendos not that long ago.

Right, but are you still doing it?

Does it look better or worse?

It still just makes you look like you have a giant bulbous head.

Yeah, look at the cartoon character.

It's so cute.

I like the hat.

I think it's a good hat.

Thank you.

Wait, okay.

Like a massive head with a little tiny face.

Like a big, perfectly round

flesh

ball with a little tiny face in the middle of it.

Right.

And it's like we could juice you.

We could squeeze it down and get Dodger juice out.

I don't like that.

Don't, please don't juice her.

Dodger juice is better.

Don't juice me, bro.

Is that what I mean when like the gym bros are like, yeah, I'm getting juiced?

They like go into the squisher.

They're just getting juiced.

Is that the thing they say?

They go into locker room and their friends squeeze their heads really hard.

Like, come on, bro, you're getting juiced, dude.

Yeah, yeah.

And that's the menu.

That's the protein shake.

That's what protein shakes are made of.

That's what I've heard.

This, yes.

Squished muscle men.

That's your pre-workout.

Is the guy who was there before you?

No.

You drink his squished muscle men, and then you be.

Stop.

Yeah.

That's yucky.

Oh, God.

Is that it?

Are we?

Are we?

Can we evacuate from this terrible discussion and run away?

All right, yes gang It's been real Amy

If you were gonna give homework to chat if you were gonna suggest a game movie comic book whatever you'd like that you think that they should take the time to watch read experience

What would it be?

Go with my number one favorite game of all time.

It's a little old, but Portal 2,

it's the game you should play.

It will expand your horizons, help you think in 3D space, and you get nagged by a woman the entire game.

So true.

And you love every minute of it.

You love it.

You're just like, oh, she's a potato now, and I'm still really into it.

Please keep making fun of me and calling me an orphan while I do your puzzles.

Yes, Portal 2 is old.

That game is like over a decade old at this point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When did yeah, when did it come out?

Portal 2.

Portal 2.

Your suggestion by saying it's old, people are like, no, it's not.

Came out in 2011, gang.

Yeah, and Portal 1 was Portal Orange Box, which was 2007, I think.

So yeah, no, these are classics.

People might not have played them yet.

You don't have to play Portal to play Portal 2, but you should anyway, because it's a fun puzzle game.

It's awesome.

And I mean, if you're not as into that and you want a more exploratory experience, but where you still get narrated by at somebody, a Stanley parable is one of my favorite games, and I love that.

Yep.

Fantastic.

Amy, you've been an amazing guest.

Thank you so much for bringing

knowledge and beef and good sense.

The beef wasn't good, though.

It was spoiled beef.

It was.

It was

good beef.

Because we all got to connect with it.

And that's what matters.

You know, it was very good beef.

We just aren't good consumers of beef.

We're bad at it.

We're bad beefers.

Yeah.

I believe, though, you're going to go through some incredible guests.

You're going to meet some wonderful people.

And one of them is going to be the perfect person to have a mundane beef with.

Not one that's making the new networks call you up, say what's going on here.

But just something worth arguing over.

Are you breaking up with us?

Because that's what this sounds like.

I'm sorry.

You'll find, one day you'll find the person who's right for you.

I'm pretty sure I've heard this discussion before.

No, it's not that you guys are bad beefers.

It's that I'm a bad beefer.

Yeah,

it's not the beef.

It's me.

I just, I can't.

You'll find someone, though, out there.

It's me.

It's the beef.

It's the and one day you'll find the beef that's meant for you.

Yeah, you'll find the guests who you can beef with.

And it's just not me, but that's fine.

There's someone out there for everyone.

Don't worry about me.

I'll be okay.

You know what?

I bet the next time a major MMO comes out, whenever the riot MMO comes out, that will be the perfect time to start causing beef.

You know, it might be a decade out there.

That's so true.

Yeah, it might take a while for us to get there, but.

One day.

One day.

I believe.

Yeah, look, beef.

Doesn't always come when you look for it.

Sometimes, when you're not looking for beef, it falls right in your lap.

So true.

Waterhouse, are you walking around?

A very unsanitary one, actually.

It was condemned.

Unfortunately, yeah, it was condemned.

Oh, my God.

Thank you so much for having me on and letting me talk about video games and movies and mushrooms and whatever else.

It's been great.

We meandered in just the right way.

Would you like to tell everybody once again where they can find you, who you are, what you're up to in the coming week?

Yeah, of course.

Twitch.tv slash Amazonian is my main channel.

I play a lot of Magic the Gathering, I mentioned before.

And the new magic set, Dusk Morn, does come out in the digital client on next Tuesday.

That's the, let me check what date that is.

Today is the 20th.

That is the 24th.

And on the 25th, I think I'm actually on the front page of Twitch, so you might see me there

just showing off the new set and being like, yeah, ask me about horror references.

I don't know them, but I consulted with my friend Jacob, who is very into horror media.

So I have them down, Pat.

I now know about

Piranha fly.

I did research.

I know what piranha fly is.

I don't, so I'm going to have to tune in and find out.

It's apparently an old movie that has flying piranhas in them.

My God.

Do they have killer tomatoes?

Not in this one.

No.

A lot of clowns.

Killer clowns, though.

Not from outer space.

What about you, Jessup?

Killer clowns?

No, killer clowns.

I'm just in merry old England.

I'm in London right now from my hotel room.

Yeah, I've been walking around this city.

I realized that I don't walk nearly enough in the States.

I saw your post of your pedometer.

And I come here and suddenly I'm doing like 800% more walking.

And I'm like, how is that possible?

But that's what happens when you have a city you can walk in.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

And.

Yeah, I'm just being stupid here to make sure an FMV game

is finished and uh coming soon.

Get ready, kids.

It's gonna be great.

Hopefully we get to see each other.

We'll have fun.

Yeah, I'm sure that happens.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As for me, I'm the same old, same old over here.

I'm a mushroom sometimes.

I'm a

flesh person sometimes and I play a lot of games.

I finally, after weeks of saying, I'm gonna play tactical breach wizards eventually,

I'm playing it.

I'm nearly done with it.

It's incredibly funny.

I've been having a blast with that.

So we'll probably be finishing finishing that up.

And then moving on to something.

We'll see.

So that's it.

Thank you all so much for watching.

Again, if you're curious about where to find the VODs, they're always on youtube.com/slash jessecocks.

We're on all of the podcasty stuff.

We would love your eyeballs and earballs.

So

thank you for them.

As always, have an amazing weekend.

Take care of yourselves and we'll see you next Friday.

Okay.

Bye-bye.

Boy.

Boy.

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