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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Geekenders.

Hi.

It's September.

We did it.

It is.

We made it to September.

Good job, everybody.

Do you remember?

Waking me up when September ends.

Yep.

Did it.

Put it together.

You're welcome.

You sure did.

You put it together in a way.

Whether it's the best way.

Whether it's the best way, we'll never know.

Yeah.

Wake me up when September.

Right?

You can do the whole thing.

Yeah.

Wake me up

when September.

There we go.

We'll workshop it.

We'll work.

Yeah, we can do this.

That's the remix the kids have been demanding.

Brother, I have a question for you right from the moment.

What do you want me, brother?

Brother.

I have a question for you.

Right from the get-go, because we've talked about it a lot on previous episodes, or at least you mentioned it.

Oh, no, what?

How did the convention go?

How was it?

How was it?

It was a good time.

Host for Yoshi.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, by the way,

big sorry for last week.

Friday, I went to go do that panel, but we were going to try and record.

Yo, I got like sick in a way that I don't know how.

It was gross.

It was, it wasn't like a sniffle sick.

It was like stomach sick, where there was definitely a lot of things coming out of the wrong holes happening that day.

And it was a, it was a long one.

So I tried.

I genuinely tried.

However, Thankfully for me, I was fine the next day.

I don't know.

Maybe I ate something.

Couldn't tell you.

But life was good.

Everything's fine.

And yeah, I went to flew into Seattle.

And yeah, it was very nice to go back to PAX.

I spent exactly one full day at PAX.

And not even that.

I walked around, looked at stuff, but most of the time, it was the usual PAX experience that you and I have, which is go to PAX,

talk to people.

sign things,

try to find dinner.

Roughly the experience, which is great.

I love that.

I'm fine with that.

I um,

yeah, basically, my day was: I woke up, went to, well, the day before, we had like a little sesh of, I was like, hey, hi, I want to ask Yoshida these questions.

And they were like, all right, let's ask him and see if he wants to answer them.

And the man literally was like, yeah, whatever.

I was like, okay.

He's like, yeah, it's fine.

I don't, it's whatever.

I'm like, all right.

And so then, yeah, so the next day we got there.

And

it was like, hey, do you want to start this thing?

And I was like, yeah.

So I got up on stage, made a fun intro and then was like, hey, let's ask questions.

And that was it.

Like, that was an hour where I did nothing.

Like, I didn't, I didn't do anything of value.

I just asked a few questions and he carried that entire thing because it was his panel.

So yeah, it was fun.

And then immediately afterwards, I went and

was outside for two hours signing things and talking to people.

And And that was

very fun.

And then immediately went to try and find Final Fantasy Tactics so I could play it, which I definitely did.

And then walked around the con, looked at all the board game stuff, looked at all the

game game stuff.

Game game.

I looked at all the game game stuff.

Yep.

And it was fun, but also I got really no chance to do anything.

You know, like I didn't, I walked around, looked at stuff, was like, oh, that's nice, but I didn't have a chance to do anything because then I had to get back, immediately fly home

to LA,

where then I went to Anime Impulse, which by the way,

the vibe of an anime convention compared to a video game convention is

so different.

They are different.

They are really different.

I think if you don't go to conventions,

you sort of assume that all like nerd-adjacent conventions are the same, but they all have their own

vibe.

Yes, big time own vibe.

And

so

I was like,

ah, okay, I feel very out of place here.

Like, I just,

it, it definitely skewed.

I will say, I'm not sure about all game conventions, but PAX tends to skew a little older.

Anime Impulse skewed young.

There was, I, I, like, in line, I felt old.

And I also weird because I was dressed in like a t-shirt and a hat and I was carrying a shield.

I was like, what do people think of me?

You got your shield signed.

That's right.

Yeah.

And I was like, what do people think of me?

Do they think this is a cosplay or I'm just weird?

I'll settle for weird, but it was a, it was, it was strange.

Anyway, went there.

Honestly, I would, I think that for the most part, the people that go to anime conventions consistently are very non-judgmental.

It's very just like, you know what?

I'm dressed as a such and such.

You're dressed as a such and such.

And there's a guy over there with a body pillow of a character I've never seen before.

And we're all just vibing.

Yeah.

So I doubt anybody was looking at you and being like,

who is this?

Example of what was going on at this convention, which I honestly, if I had the time, I would have, if I didn't have to immediately drive home and filled Cox and Crendor, I would have stayed.

There was, when I walked in, I went to go to all this, the shield sign and stuff, but anyone who's at Anima Impulse can verify this.

There was a like sexy man-made cafe, and they kept trying to get people to go there, but they also had a live jazz band in the cafe.

And part of me was like, yo, I want to go to the sexy man-made cafe, have them serve me, and I just want to listen to jazz for the afternoon.

I would have done that.

I would have been happy.

I was like, no, no, no, you can take care of other people.

Just give me like a drink, drink and i'll sit here and watch them play i was like yo okay this is kind of fun but um hell yeah yeah i didn't get a chance but i would have in a heartbeat yeah but it wasn't necessarily for the sexy guys it was more for the sexy music you know what i'm saying did you get all of the signatures you wanted I did.

All three of our Ellison boys were there.

Nice.

More importantly, it is Harch Font Shield.

So I had to get the G himself to sign it.

Of course.

Yeah, but it's very cute because they all kind of left spaces for where they thought other people would want to sign, which I thought was very sweet.

Oh, that's so sweet.

Yeah, that's nice.

They're like, oh, we can't take this space.

All right, I'll sign here.

All right.

Well, then you sign here.

And then I got them all to take a photo with me, and that was very cute.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was very, very nice.

And

yeah,

now the real, now the real

struggle begins because I got to track down some of the people that are like basically untrackable.

Who's left?

Who do you

like really pie in the sky want on that shield?

I would, I mean, like, I know I can get some of the like, I could probably get Bakul Jaja because my dude lives in LA, so I probably could get that easy.

But the ones that are like, all right, this is gonna be hard.

I still need Sokin.

I still need Alice.

I still need Urianjay.

I still need Ishtola.

Oh, you gotta be able to get Rianje.

We'll see.

And I still, and I still need Kryle.

And more importantly, the hardest one, I think, because now our boy is very famous.

Graha is going to be impossible.

I'm going to have to show up to a movie premiere and be like, well, you saw this shield?

I love your work in Final Fantasy XIV.

Yeah, Graha,

John is like an actual movie star now.

So I don't know how I'm going to get that shit.

We'll figure it out.

I'll have to be like, I'll have to get famous somehow too.

I'll have to be like in a movie with him and be like, oh, there we go.

And then be like, hey, by the way, I just happened to play a little MMORPG called Final Fantasy 14.

Could you please sign this?

Yes.

The voice actor for Urianje loves a goof.

I feel like you could reach out with a goof idea and then be like, I mean, by the way,

it's mostly about do I want to travel overseas with a giant shield

or should I wait for them to come to to the States?

So the minute I found out three were going to be in Anaheim, I was like, yo, that's an hour away.

I'm going.

Yeah, it's one of those things where it's just a weird, like this right here and this right here are just posters.

So like this is signed by the Final Fantasy 16 cast.

This is signed by Alan Wake 2 team.

So like these, you roll up, you can send.

Easy.

This is a legitimate, this could kill someone.

This is a legitimate heavy ass pointy weapon, potentially.

So the fact they even let me brought that, like bring that in to a convention, I was shocked.

The security guards are like,

I thought they were asked to look at it and examine it.

This, I could have ended a person's life.

This is like when Captain American people walking in with sword replicas, you know.

Again, this could actually block things, though.

This isn't like a replica.

It's not foam.

It literally is like a heavy, you could hurt a person with it.

They did.

they were just like, this one guy's like, so I was like, oh, hi.

I love it.

I'm glad.

You know what?

I'm glad that after feeling so sick and shitty that you rallied

and you got to do all of the cool stuff that you wanted to do last weekend.

Admittedly, that's why I was like, I need to, I'm like, dukes, I need to not do anything today.

I had to get good.

I was like, I have so much going on this weekend.

I was like, my boy has to go host a Yoshi P panel.

Like, this is not on the radar.

Again, host is a relative term.

I've done some panels where I've hosted and like carried some stuff.

This was,

I asked exactly six questions and made a few goofs.

And that was it.

I was like,

you were like the hot assistant, like just kind of posing while the other person talked.

I'm going to take you up.

Yes, exactly that.

Exactly that.

Of course.

And no one can say otherwise.

Yes.

It was a good time.

But yeah, it also made me realize that, yo, I went to Seattle.

Dukes, I'm going to.

Hey, hi.

Fellow fatties.

Hi out there.

Jesse here.

Yo, get like on like some workout stuff.

Because the difference, Seattle's a lot of hills.

Yeah.

I was just cruising through that town.

It was great.

You got to get up.

Guys,

I think we should take care of ourselves a little better.

I'm going to let you know.

Like, I think,

I think, like, maybe,

because holy crap, I was like cruising through that city.

I was

like, I was like, you know what?

What's that way?

And I started walking.

At one point, I went.

I went and found Little Fatty's and I got a sandwich.

I'm sorry, Little Woody's.

Little Fatty's is a place here in LA.

By the way, shout out to Fatty's.

It's great.

Little Woody's.

I found Little Woody's and went there and got a sandwich.

And then, oh, it was great.

I had a good time.

However, everyone kept spotting me and being like, hey, Jesse.

And I had to tweet out like, hi.

I'm trying to hit 15,000 steps today.

So if any of you...

Just stop talking to me.

No, I was just like, if any of you want to talk to me, that's cool, but I will be gross.

Like, just letting you know my back will be a sweat monster.

You, if you're trying to hug up on me, you will be wet.

be aware just be aware and people are like it's fine dude i'm like i don't think you understand it's not fine i thought maybe you were gonna say if you want to come say hi to me of course feel free but i will keep walking no i'm not like that i

wasn't like you gotta with me if we're gonna if we're gonna chat no it was like a thursday night and i was just like walking around the city but because it was packs the only time hey heads up the only time anyone ever notices or cares i exist Dodger probably feels the same way, is at conventions.

Suddenly,

for 360 days out of the year, no one interferes and cares or like wants to talk to us.

You go to a convention, everyone's like, ooh,

and I'm like, all right, let's do this.

I'm excited.

Hi, hi, everyone.

But like, it never happens.

So when it does happen, I'm down to stop and talk.

I'm like, that's not an issue for me.

I'm like, yeah, all right, hey, what's up?

But I just wanted to make it clear, like, I'm in the process of doing a thing.

So, you must understand.

Everyone must understand.

I will be gross, but feel free to stop on by.

Like, this isn't a, this isn't cool, sexy Jesse.

This is

water-dripping Jesse.

Like, I'm hiking up mountains.

Like, it's fine.

Yeah.

This is adventure, Jesse.

Yeah.

And then I rewarded myself by going to Little Woody's, and it was great.

And I'm jealous and starving now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It sounds amazing.

I wish.

I love Seattle.

I haven't been there in forever.

You know what?

It's lovely.

It's a lovely city.

Everything about it is

it's.

Let me take that back.

The areas I have been to are lovely.

I don't know.

I can safely say that I have been where the convention center area is, down towards the wharf,

and then up towards whatever that hill is called that has all the like college kids stuff.

That's it.

That's all I've done back and forth about 800 times.

I know none of the rest of the city.

So I really can't say.

But that area, lovely.

Big fan.

Yeah.

I feel like Portland's a little like that.

LA too, to be honest.

It's one of those cities where people are like, oh my gosh, I love going to L.A.

Oh my gosh, I love going to Portland.

But they have like a section of the city that they enjoy and don't really fuck with their

yeah i mean it's very funny because i would love i'm like yeah i love la

but

downtown la actual la the city of la

there's nothing there's like nothing going on i'm like i i love la

as an area as a concept but if you were like yo i'm headed to downtown i'd be like why

What for what?

Like, I mean, I guess you go to a museum for like an hour, but the trip is two hours so what like you know what i mean like why would you do that yeah it's a weird it's a weird vibe but uh yeah the area of la is lovely yeah

same thing same thing with the seattle that's how i felt i was like i don't know what's going on the rest of the city but the area i'm in having a great time

love it yeah

Well, I

debuted a VTuber model.

Hey, saw that.

Lovely.

Good stuff.

Thank you.

It was fun.

Let me tell you exactly when I tuned in.

I said to myself, man, I can't wait to see what Dodger's VTube thinks about.

This is so exciting.

It's day one.

Oh my God.

I'm looking forward to seeing this whole VTube model.

You must have been asleep because all you were playing was a rerun of you and I playing...

I was about to say deadly premonition, but that's not it.

Contradiction.

Contradiction.

Yeah.

And that's what I saw when I tuned in to see your new character model was us just playing contradiction.

I was like, oh, okay.

Yeah.

We had it set up so that if I was asleep, the mods could play media.

And so they played a lot of playthroughs, like old VODs and stuff.

And contradiction is one of them that everybody always asks for.

So yeah, played all of contradiction, all of the old Hustlecat VODs, Hattoful Boyfriend, like all kinds of crazy stuff.

Oh, the the what was the spooky game that we played?

The letter?

The letter.

Yeah.

I must stress, at some point,

yikes, sorry.

I, uh, you're playing ads right now.

And, um, am I?

Yeah, I saw some.

Well, I saw an ad appear, so whoever's ad that was, it was for some company I don't want to name, but it was clearly AI.

And I was like,

I like got immediately distracted by it because it was a terrible, it was a terrible ad.

And it was like sexy AI lady with a gun.

And I'm like,

this sucks.

I hate this.

Anyway, sorry.

Derailed my own train of thought with that.

Yeah,

your mods were like putting little images all over the screen too.

So it was pretty entertaining.

I'm not going to lie.

But it was one of those things where, as I was watching, I was like,

We're probably not on the same time schedule.

I'm going to miss this entire thing.

And every time I tuned in to see you do, like, I'm a little mushroom person, it wasn't you, it was they were playing something else that it was, and I was like, wait, why is Dodger asleep now?

We were desynced.

I don't understand.

You had like uh,

you had like

what was your sleep schedule?

Because I would tune in during my normal hours when you thought you would be online and you were not.

So, I was streaming, I tried to hit around 12 hours a day.

Yikes.

So I was streaming from 10

to

6, I think.

And then I stopped to have dinner and hang out with my kid.

And then I came back

from 9 to like 2 a.m.-ish.

So I was around.

I was around, man.

I don't know how you did it, but I know what the outcome was.

And it was very funny because the last time we talked, I think it was during D ⁇ D, your voice was like, hey, guys,

I'm so excited.

You were gone.

I don't like, it was so, I don't remember who asked you.

Someone was like, hey, would you ever do a sub-a-thon again?

And you're like,

sure.

In a couple of years.

Yeah, well, like, I've only ever done two, right?

I did one for my 10-year streaming anniversary.

And that one, I was like, I'm capping that at 24 hours.

I'm not going past 24 hours.

Bless the current subathoners, because they've really changed the landscape for sub-athons now, where it's like, yeah, just go to bed, man.

And then come back.

And if the timer's still going, then just keep streaming.

So.

It was more mentally manageable to me to say, yeah, I'll do a, I'll do a subathon, a debut-a-thon, if you will, along with my model.

I had built this ARG that was meant to last for three days.

So I was like, that sort of all times out well, right?

So maybe I could keep a sub-athon going for three days.

We could complete the whole ARG.

I could debut the model.

We'll have a couple of fun goals or like the big, the big sub-numbers.

And then

we'll call it a day.

In the end, it lasted six days, which is crazy.

And I got the whole ARG.

It's like like a medical store.

Minimal issues.

Yeah.

We had enough content for three days, but it lasted six.

Yeah.

I got to, I got to sleep.

It was good.

It's very good.

Honestly, all it does is make me realize there's definitely a too old for this moment when it comes to that kind of stuff.

I don't want to ever do that.

Like,

I know it would probably be like

great

for

the brand, you know what I mean?

Like as a streamer, as like content, but holy crap.

I was like,

you sounding exhausted made me exhausted.

I was like, no, I ain't going to do that.

No, I'm not going to do that.

Because,

yeah, when we talked, it was at the midpoint where the subathon had just ended

and we were then in prep mode for my kid to go back to school.

So it was right in the middle of those two things where I was like, All right, all of that went well.

I'm done with that.

And now I have to redirect my brain to this new stressful thing.

So, yeah, I was, I was kind of done.

I was ready to just

go to bed, maybe forever, you know?

I was kind of done is like

such a good way of putting, I was kind of done.

You sounded done.

You sounded like you were over

talking

yeah

but i also figured that because because i'm this i'm the same i don't enjoy the idea of like exhausting myself or

like a streaming thing sure you know you know you know speed you know

I'm I'm no Sam, right?

Like Sam is down to do that shit

whenever.

I can't, I'm not a long distance streamer.

I just can't do it, you know?

But this was really, this was really fun because I had like made this little like scavenger hunt game thing.

And in my mind, it was like, well, there's still a lot of people who don't know I VTube now.

So potentially they're going to be, if I'm online and streaming a lot right after debut, potentially a lot of people that enjoy VTubers are going to find me in those few days.

So, there were things that

made it really worth it to me, and things that we did to make it really fun, like letting my mods put dumb gifts on stream was great.

And yeah,

and now, and now, you know, we got to release a song with Kelly, and it's very cute.

It's good.

Let me ask you this.

Let me, let me, let me,

okay.

Sure.

What I'm about to say may sound dismissive.

Okay.

It's not.

It's a genuine, curious question.

I think we talked about this when we had,

you know, Ollie on.

Okay.

You spent

all this time creating a backstory.

There's a comic that exists.

There's an ARG.

There is lore for your character.

There's all this stuff.

None of that's going to matter, right?

Like in my day-to-day.

I mean, like, from this point on, how often do you intend to actually be like, I'm going to reference some of the lore for my character, or are you just going to have a little avatar that plays games while you play games?

Um, a little of both.

So, I

created a in-universe radio station that you did an advert for.

I would never.

And

as media luminary

Max Cox.

Don't know that guy.

And

he's great.

You should watch some of his movies.

Doesn't sound like a guy I know.

And so every stream starts with that radio station to sort of establish like to do like world establishment.

What I like about that is it creates a way for me to

do things in universe, like in this like world building that I put a lot of effort into for the comic and the ARG.

I get to like engage with that every stream if I want to

in a small or a big way, which I think is really fun because

the whole idea was that I get to sort of lean into this weird like cryptid element and have some like you know twin peaksy welcome to night veil vibes and lean into that as much or as little as as i want which i think is fun if your question is while i'm streaming does it come up not really yeah i i i stand by the statement i had when we've had vtubers on before it's literally dnd character creation And it's really fun to do.

And you get to make a whole backstory and it's great.

But I have no evidence across all of VTubing that it really matters at the end of the day.

It's just something fun people do because it's fun.

It's just fun.

Yeah, yeah.

It is fun.

Yeah.

And if people, if people really enjoy the character, they like engaging with the story, right?

Yeah.

So, but for the most part, even then,

it's like, it doesn't matter.

You're still the like.

I'm playing games of talking and being goofy.

Like, it isn't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I always, it's very funny to me because i just think that it's this big

crazy we're doing a reveal it's this character it's gonna change like it's so funny to me it's the exact same thing as episode one of a dnd get together where everyone's really excited to show off the new thing they made and all their stuff and then by episode two everyone's like Yeah, so anyway, we burned the village down.

It's like, wait, why?

It's like, oh, because we're still.

Yeah, because it was fun.

We were having fun.

And it's the same thing here as I think everyone has like the setup, but then in reality, it's just the person having fun.

And so it's always amusing.

Also, I think it's also worth pointing out that there are so many VTubers at this point that it's a gradient, right?

Some people are like, I started VTubing and I don't even know what my lore is.

And there are other people that have written like a huge document or have like an Obsidian account that is entirely dedicated to their lore and they talk about it or or answer questions as in character while they stream.

Which is, which is that gradient is there.

Yeah, it's super interesting to watch the ones that are like fooling with the voice or they have like a gimmick or like something.

I think it's very fun.

But yeah, I definitely have the vibe of like

none of this really matters,

which, you know, is fine because it doesn't.

It's just for fun.

It doesn't really matter.

But it's very funny to me because everyone's just like,

I'm gonna, like, this is why I couldn't do it.

It sounds like a lot of work, and I'd be like, why would I do that?

I'm just gonna make Gringor the Impaler.

Like, what the he's a, he's a hobgoblin and he kills people.

Like, I don't even understand why am I doing this, right?

I'm basically, I have no more fun left in me.

I've been, it's been sucked out.

It's all gone.

No, it's leached out.

The internet killed it.

I have no more compassion for enjoyment of life.

All I do is I wake up and just sit on stream and say,

man,

remember back when?

And everyone's like, no, old man.

And I'm like, okay.

Okay.

Well, maybe we should, maybe, because it sounds like we both played some games.

Do you want to talk about some games that make you happy and give you whimsy?

Oh, wait a minute.

I just realized.

Can I make a VTuber who's gross?

Everyone makes a hot V tuber.

I want to make one that's a slime, has one eyeball that's big and one eyeball that's small, but they're two different people's eyes.

And his name is

Stink Butt.

And Stink Butt, he goes, he's like,

the entire time.

Stink Butt would go so hard.

And he like, he like, yeah, most of the stream is just chatting, but it's like puking noises.

and farts.

Would that work?

Would people want, would people like that?

Yeah.

You know what?

You could even set that up so that it's like

text-to-speak sort of style.

You just record yourself doing a bunch of like

noises.

And then.

Nope.

Now that you've said that, now I just want it to be the grossest thing ever, but it's just hello.

Hello.

Welcome to my stream.

I am stink butt.

Oh, I can get the Siri voice.

My Siri voice is great.

My Siri voice is like,

hey there.

If you need me to drive you somewhere, I can take you anywhere you want to go.

You got Alabama Siri?

Yeah, dude.

I love Alabama Siri.

She's amazing.

Yeah.

Anyway,

hey,

it's the week.

We did things.

You did tactics.

You did a tactics?

Yeah, I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say about that.

Oh, never mind.

You didn't do a tactics.

I mean, I could.

Put it in your head.

I'm not sure what I can say.

Yeah, this week was like a weird kind of go-through everything.

And

like, I got into my head one day that maybe I should go back and play Hollow Knight a little bit at home, just in case

I want to check out Silk Song.

And so I started playing Hollow Knight and was like, yeah, Hollow Knight.

This game's great.

And then just didn't have time to play Silk Song.

And then realized last night I got an email.

This is how behind the curve I am.

Last night I got an email that was like,

the new Indiana Jones DLC just dropped.

And I was like, what?

I didn't even know this.

And I figure I should have known this, but I guess I just forgot.

So that's a thing that exists now.

So I got to find time to play that at some point, which is.

You know.

Do you know anything about the DLC?

Um,

I think we go back to the Vatican.

I don't know.

There's like a weird, it's about the Giants,

which is a whole thing that is in the game that I don't want to spoil.

But it's very Indiana Jones-coded, and I'm very excited.

And yeah, great circle.

Good game.

Solid game.

You know.

Then.

Then I went through and I played like

just a ludicrous.

So

for some reason, over the last couple of days, I've been really into playing like

what is that game called?

Ruffy in the Riverside.

Have you played this?

I talked about it before.

We've been talking about this game, but I have not played it.

It is so enjoyable on sort of a, if a video is rendering, I'll just like play it a little bit.

Ruffy rules.

It is a

plat, like a,

it feels like a Nintendo 64 platformer game where you play as a little kind of 2d guy named ruffy and you go around in this magical world and you can

change you can not just platform but actively change the world so you can take different so if there you go like a water palette you can be like water and then stuff becomes water or if there's water you can freeze it and walk across or if there's um a waterfall you can kind of like you're land now and like use that so you can change things with like a color palette swap between

different,

like, there's so much going on in this game.

You can also hit 2D.

So now you're in a, like, you can go into the walls of things and do like a 2D platformer bit.

Um,

it's

it's literally like go around, collect coins, complete objectives.

It's, it feels very old school platforming, but mechanically is so much fun.

Like, I'm not doing this game justice because it's really hard to explain stuff in it without being like, hey, you should play this.

But it is extremely charming.

And

the music in the background might be some of my favorite.

Like,

like, it has that, like, yeah, we're doing things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

It is a great game.

I've been playing a bunch of that.

And then you and I went through and we did a little bit of, oh, boy, Eyes of Hellfire the other day.

We did.

Which we discovered.

Sure, sure, sure.

We discovered that that's a game that we definitely need to bring more people to play for sure.

I love that when we started playing, it was like, this game is best for three to five players.

And we were like, yeah, but we're gamers.

So

I think we're good.

But it wasn't saying that because of difficulty.

It was saying that because you are constantly put in positions to fuck over the other people in your team.

And if there's only two of you, you're you're like, what the fuck did you do, man?

There's a lot of.

There's this guy who appears to you and is like, if you want my help, I can do something evil.

Shall we make a deal?

And what's so funny is it's like, I'll hurt one of the other players.

And it's like, okay.

So you're just going to beat up Dodger.

Gotcha.

Okay.

All right.

Sign me up.

Yeah, there's voting that takes.

So premise-wise, it's it's a game where you go to a manor and it is a

I don't know if it's like a vampire thing or an eldritch horror thing or whatever it is, but you are a

team, I guess, or just random individuals trapped in this manor.

Yeah, there's five potential people that are trapped in the manor for some reason.

And those people have to go around and through card game mechanics, search, move, fight your way through, and you have to discover things.

And every room has stuff to click on and a lot of it's puzzles and you have to like go from room to room and discover different things in order to solve those puzzles.

And the rewards range from story progression to

trinkets you can get that then you can buy things with.

or random relics that will improve your character in some way.

Or punishment.

Sweet, sweet punishment.

A great example is: there was a table, and the table had a bunch of food on it that looked rotten.

I ate one of them, puked.

Dodger ate one, I think, like something exploded out of your stomach.

I don't know what that was.

Something terrible happened.

I ate a bird.

There was a, there was a gelatinous bird that I ate.

And it was like, cool, you can feel the bird moving around in your tummy.

I was like, yuck.

What do you mean?

Yep.

I got, I did the next one, which I think was a dessert.

And it was like, wow, that was, that didn't kill you yet.

And I was like, oh, great.

And then eventually it was like, hey, not only do you get all your life back, but you get this thing and this thing and you that.

So it was one of those if you kept going, gave you something at the end.

But the entire time, it's like hurting you while you're trying to do it.

And I was like, oh, cool.

There were

little tiny places you could go and meet

different

creatures.

I don't know what you like.

A great example is: there was a dog, and you could fight the dog, but the dog had 15 life.

And the real solution was you had to lure the dog over to this trash bin, and the dog would eat, and then he could sneak around the dog.

That was the solution.

But for the first time, we were like, we got to take out this dog.

We got to punch the shit out of this dog.

The dog had 15 life and he hurt.

So

that kind of thing.

Very fun.

Yeah.

I enjoyed it, but yeah, definitely it requires more people than just the two of us.

I'm really curious to see what it feels like to play it with more people because, yeah, the system of play is like you start your turn, everybody has their own cards, depending on the character you started with, you have different like starting cards in your deck, and you're able to like build out your deck with new cards as you find stuff and engage with like the manor.

But

once everybody is sort of out of things to do and you do not have to stick together, you can be all over the manor, but some cards require that you be alone or require that you be with other people so you know there's strategy there once everybody is like all right i can't do anything anymore everybody ends their turn and then it takes you to this sequence where um

everybody is asked a question so we were asked questions like

what who could win a fist fight or who would who would be least likely to win a fist fight and we both chose me um yeah uh I believe one of them was who is most likely to betray the other.

For some reason, you chose me, and I don't understand why.

I don't know.

I also chose you.

You'd have to, you have to

say it like that.

And so after you're done with like this question that will lead to some sort of a resolution,

then there's like a random

sort of like a layer action, so to speak, where something happens to the manor.

And it seemed like there were only really like three

that would rotate through.

I think because there were two of us, it felt like those were happening so often because we were ending our turns fairly quickly.

So it would be like, Oh, there's more baddies around,

and then we'd take our turn, and it would be like, There's more baddies again,

and we'd take our turn, and they'd go, Now there's traps everywhere.

Like, God, okay.

The brilliance of it, I think, is your characters start to go crazy.

And the crazier I became, I don't know if I'm interrupted.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what you saw on your screen, but I would see traps that weren't there.

I would see people randomly show up.

Ghosts started to appear on my screen.

I saw weird stuff.

I saw stuff.

I was like, wait, what's real here?

Yeah, so towards the end, I was losing my mind.

There were things happening that I-I'm I'm confused by that because nearly every time I stepped into a trap, it was like, do you want to do this thing or do you want to become more corrupted?

And I would always just choose more corrupted.

Interesting.

And by the time we were done with the game for the day, I was just tripping at the start of

like, okay, like, that's not too bad, I don't think.

Or at the start of a turn, I would just scream and run into another room.

You.

And that was as bad as it got, really.

I feel like.

Oh, yeah, no, I didn't have.

Well, I started to have scream and run into a room.

I think the reason why you didn't see all the things I saw is because you were full-on scream run into another room, kind of uh, corrupted, and I was more like

slightly.

There's something coming.

Yeah, I didn't have, yeah, I was like, I gotta get out of here.

You were freaking out, I just

saw things.

Yeah, I wonder how balanced it is pacing-wise.

I don't know.

Three or five people.

But we should get a group together for sure.

Yeah.

Agreed.

It'd be a ton of fun.

Also, can you do me a favor?

Can you go play Ruffy, come back next week and explain it, like how you explain games and not how I explain games?

So that game can actually sound good and not just me being like, that it you bounce and collect things and then paint.

That sounds cute, though.

I gotta bounce, collect things, and paint sounds cute.

I am no video game reviewer.

I can't, uh, I'm like, I liked it and it was fun and I had a good time.

I talk fairly often.

I don't know why this comes up so often, but I talk fairly often on stream about

when

you, me, and John would be on co-optional podcasts, and one of us would be like, I really enjoy this game.

And John would try to press, like, why?

Explain to me why.

And both of us would so frequently crumble, like, I don't know, it's just, it's fun.

I like it.

What do you mean?

I just like it.

It makes me happy.

Just in the presence of someone who does like fully

fleshed out reviews of games all the time and can easily put their thoughts into words.

That's why people are like, it's a fun game.

My brain likes it.

When I do, when I jump and hit stuff, it's good.

It feels good.

good.

That's how I feel with you now.

Every time I'm like, I like games and they're so good.

And then you give a perfect summary of like, here's a great example.

As I was explaining Eyes of Hellfire, I was like, yeah, so we were playing these characters and then you stepped in and he goes, there are five characters you can choose from that make up the party.

And I'm like, well, why did I think to say that?

I could have started with that way.

Instead, I was like, so you, there's characters.

So we were playing the characters and then Dodger and I were trying to go into the house, but the house was scary and haunted.

And then, and you're like,

five characters to choose from, you can enter the house together as a team of up to three to five players, but we decided to go as two, which was very foolish of us.

And I'm like,

me fail English?

That's unpossible.

That's how I feel.

Well, thank you.

I don't, I don't feel that way.

I enjoy listening to you talk about games for what that's worth.

Thanks, boss.

It's the truth.

Well, then you can listen to this one last rant I have.

Hi, everyone.

Jesse Cox here.

Now I know

I'm no longer a hardcore MMO player.

I don't spend hours in the salt mines farming stuff or leveling jobs like I used to.

However,

some of y'all

really complained on the internet about how in Final Fantasy XIV,

I love how you were waiting for me to go somewhere with that.

You got to type in something.

In that game, a brand new patch 731 just came out, and there's a new phase in the relic weapon.

And last expansion,

every person just complained and complained that it was too easy.

All you got to do.

is do these quests and then you get these and then get tomes and buy it.

And like, oh, you just gotta, it's so easy.

It's so boring.

I love that.

I got all of them.

I had so much fun.

I was doing like little things.

I was having a great time.

This time.

Okay.

First round of this relic, you had to collect items that drop at like, I'm going to say a 3% chance.

And you had to do it in certain fates.

And you had to run around.

And like a Realm Reborn relics, which are not fun to do.

Very similar.

We had to go run around and try to like do this new area, this new field area, where you had to fight 50,000 fates running back and forth, trying to get there in time to get full credit.

So you're running around doing all of that.

Or you can just go out into the field and farm them.

And I think it's like maybe one drop every hour or so.

So you're just

wasting time.

Then

the new one, which is the current 731 version, is like, okay, good work.

We're going to craft some new stuff.

All right.

First, you have to go around the world and collect things.

So like...

Three of them are crafting items.

One of them you have to buy from a vendor for 300,000 kil.

And one of them is you have to get from like the fate

token man,

where if you beat enough fates and you get enough

buy color gems, you can go and buy this thing.

And then once you're done with that, you go talk to, you know, Geralt and all the people that are part of this mission.

And they're like, okay, so the next phase, I'm like, no.

So then

you get a grid that appears.

And the grid...

says there's four there's four quadrants in this grid and each of those quadrants needs 10 000 points which means

you must do so it's like a one of the quadrants is trials one of the quadrants is high level dungeons one of the quadrants is you know so basically they're sending you to go do busy work and so all of that stuff

10,000 is at minimum I'm gonna say at minimum 11 days

maybe maybe you could pull off in 10.

Now you could farm it, like farm it and get it done immediately, but if you're just gonna going to take it easy and do one a day, it's going to take you about a week.

I'm sorry, two weeks.

So basically, it's just

rather than have fun, do whatever, here's a little goofy story.

They're like, you wanted it to be a grind?

It's a grind now.

And I

just,

we monkey pawed ourselves.

The worst part is I know there's gonna be someone in the comments who's like, but I love this dude.

And that's great for you.

I hate it.

I always have.

I always will i'm not a fan of this stuff i do not like grinds for the sake of grinds it's literally why i left world of warcraft because i hated the grind system in that game and like i just

why

why do we do this to ourselves why do we you wanted this and now you are punished but i am the one who is punished not you why

so um

Yeah, that's that's that's where we're at now.

But the weapon glows and looks cool.

So like I gotta do it.

But yeah, that's it.

The only saving grace is that when you do all this nonsense once, from that point on, you don't have to do it ever again for those weapons, which is fine.

But it's the one time that I'm already like, no, this ain't for me, dude.

Like, this is, oh, I'm glad you're not a Destiny fan.

There's a reason why I played Destiny until a certain point and then never went back.

I don't, I don't like the grind.

I never have.

I'm not a fan of it.

I just, unless there's a story reason that will then give me some sort of story thing that is important,

I'm not going to do it.

I just won't.

I just, I literally can't do it.

My mind, I'm like, I could do anything else with my life right now.

Literally anything else would be more fun than this.

And I will just go do that instead.

And then a week will pass and it'll be like, oh, that event's over.

You didn't get anything.

And I'm like,

all right.

Like, that's how I feel it's so oh I don't like it

I love how many people in chat are like

yeah well this thing in this game is harder than that so yeah

that's why I'm not playing that point yeah that's not the point

that's why I'm not playing that thing that you just said because I don't want that the reason I played 14 is because 14 is easily accessible and you can log in and log out and like oh, you want to play for an hour today?

Great.

Do that.

That's why I like 14 because it is pretty casual friendly.

That's that's that's why I'm playing it, it's why I'm not in a hardcore wow guild anymore.

It's like I don't want that, I want to be able to play other things.

I think the Fantasy 14 is very casual friendly.

I play it once a week

and it's fun and I have a nice time.

Yeah, I mean, we have a news story later literally about what we're talking about, but um, it's uh, yeah, it's it's why I enjoy it because it's a story-heavy, casual experience that I enjoy tremendously.

Um,

but yeah, I uh I get it.

MMOs in general, this is why everyone yells at me because I'm like, I don't like grinding in MMOs.

That's kind of the point of a lot of MMOs is to keep you online playing as long as humanly possible.

And like, I get it.

You don't have to explain it to me.

I understand the marketing behind it, but it's

but also

an important part of this is that it was fine.

And then people complained.

And now it's, and now it's a grind.

Yeah, I mean, it is.

I must stress, as a person.

So basically, the last expansion, all of the relic weapons were tied to a goofy side story.

It was this Hildebrand story.

If you've never played Final Fantasy XIV, imagine the most anime, goofy thing you can think of.

It's hilarious.

It lands every time for me.

But I understand a lot of people people do not like it because it's so goofy and silly.

And so they just got upset they had to do that in order to.

They were like, I never want to do those stupid stories.

And you're saying I got to do that in order to get a cool weapon?

And so it just

sometimes I just don't.

I just, I'm so.

I realize I like,

you know, how when

you see the elderly and they're like upset about

young kids.

Basically, I think I've hit the point where, you know, how a lot of people, when they get old, they become like bitter and mean and like, oh, these kids these days.

And they're all like upset and they just want to fight people.

You know, the elderly.

I think I'm in that small elderly group of people now that are just like,

I'm so tired of like, I'm just,

I just don't have the patience to deal with it anymore.

So I'm not gonna.

Like, instead of being like retirement home old, I'm like live in the wilderness old.

Like, instead of instead of going to go live in Florida and complain about the world old, I'm like, I'm gonna move out into the woods

and not talk to humans anymore.

Like, I just, the more I'm like, we had a good, like, it didn't have to be this way.

Y'all just be complaining just to complain.

I'm so tired of it.

I'm just like, no, no, no, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna, there's so many other things to complain about.

That's the, yeah now my time my my my sweet sweet precious time is filling out 10 000 40 000 points worth of crap in this day

don't like it don't like it

if i was in a shack in the woods wouldn't have that problem although i would have bear problems

which i don't like i don't want to live in a shack in the woods what about a shack in like

i don't know suburbia what about a suburban shack oh

That's a good name for like a.

That's like a good name for a crappy restaurant.

Suburban shack.

It feels adjacent to the lonely island.

Suburban shack.

That's the name of my

comedy band.

Yep.

Yeah.

Yep.

I can't wait to hear your first single.

First single is called

Boat Sex.

And then have another we have another song called i banged your mom and then we have another song called drugs are pretty funny and then we have another song called i took a crap in the office and then we have another song called sushi roll but it's a dick joke and then we have another song i have one i have one yeah

a boob in a bag

Right, right.

It's like, it's like, it's like dick in a box, except it's ladies singing it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a boob in a bag.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right.

And people accuse us of copying them.

people accuse us of copying

but like no no no no no no no no no we will feature justin timber like a bit that's true um

yeah but we aren't gonna copy them come on that'd be stupid shall i

please save me from myself

i i i have a couple of things that i would love to talk about I think maybe, well, now let's just talk about Silk Song.

Let's just

do the job.

He started with, I need to talk about stuff.

And I was like, oh, where's this going?

And you're like, should I talk about Silk Song?

I was going to talk about Deadlock.

And then I thought,

Silk Song's already been brought up twice on this podcast.

We should just talk about Silk Song.

Okay.

Because it's out.

It came out.

It's real.

It's a game.

You actually played it.

I did play it.

I played it last

night.

I played it from 9 p.m.

No, because I fell asleep.

I played from 10 p.m.

to 3 a.m., I think.

I know, so I'm tired today, but it's fine.

It's fine because I got to play a bunch of silk song.

And it's lovely.

It's beautiful.

They gave us exactly what I think we expected, which is more Hollow Knight.

Still in Metroidvania, still hand-drawn, gorgeous, lovely music, adorable characters, just aesthetically, beautifully put together,

just with slightly different mechanics because you're not playing as the knight, you're now playing as Hornet, right?

You might,

when going on social media, if you haven't blocked out the term silk song on social media, you might see people complaining about the pogo mechanic in this game.

In a platform,

in like a platformer, the pogo mechanic is typically referring to whatever system you as the character use in order to bounce off of things in the game.

So typically.

It's like a downslash or something?

Yeah, typically that's like there will be this thing, and when you down slash, when you attack down, you'll bounce off and you're able to sort of like bounce along or bounce up or whatever.

Sure.

So

the pogo mechanic in this game is fucking crazy.

In what way?

What do you mean?

Because Hornet does not attack straight down, which is amazing in some aspects of platforming.

She attacks, when you hold down and attack, she always attacks at an angle.

So

there's no pogo mechanic.

There is.

You have to learn.

what angle you're gonna attack at.

So here's a little thingy to pogo off of.

Here's your character.

here's hornet you walk up you jump

and you have to mentally be like and now i down slash because you're gonna go this way wait but then where do you bounce to

if if you're you'll bounce forward just like before oh so you're so you angle in and then boop that way angle in and then bounce that way instead of down instead of like boop boop boop you're going

it's boom boom

interesting i can understand why that would upset some people because that is

having just literally played Hollow Knight like earlier this week, that is fundamentally different than Hollow Knight in a way that would

going from, especially all the people who like,

this is going to sound, I don't want to say derogatory, that's not the right word, but it's going to sound like I'm trying to poo-poo it.

I'm not.

But there were a lot of people in the last like month who really started going hard on Hollow Knight for the first time ever.

And that's just because they were hype.

It isn't like, oh, they tripped on the bandwagon.

That's not what I'm trying to say.

There's a lot of people.

So I can imagine if you went from that, like, I'm playing Hollow Knight, I'm gonna play through the game.

Oh, I'm so excited!

And then they get to Silk Song immediately, they're gonna be like, What the?

I get it, I understand.

I

kind of love it.

Okay, it is frustrating at first.

I think they introduce a good Metroidvania or even a good Souls like

has

areas.

This is more specific to Metroidvanias, I think, but we'll have areas that are like, you have to figure out this mechanic now.

Sure.

Right.

We are introducing an area.

You don't have to do it now, but you really

need to figure out how to do this because we're just going to ramp from here.

This is the basic ability.

Right.

So pretty early on in the game, you are met with an area that has a lot of these little bouncy things and you have to figure out how do I bounce on these, you know?

All right.

Because,

you know, if you have played Hollow Knight, you know that the platforming does get more and more difficult and skills build on each other.

Sure.

So if you don't understand the angle at which you're going to have to attack things in order to bounce, you're host going forward, you know?

Yeah.

I mean, like,

going back to another Metrovinia I really love the

most recent Prince of Persia.

A great example of that is in did you play the dlc did you ever play that yes yep so in that

they uh finally wrap up whatever happened to blue girl which i'm a big fan of shout out to blue girl they take all your powers in that and you kind of so you go from being very skilled to having none of it and you have to relearn how to play using new things And I think that's kind of similar.

I imagine it would be because it's a struggle at first to be like, how the hell do I do this if I don't have double jump?

Or how do I do this?

I don't have my damn dash anymore.

So what do I do to solve this problem?

And so you're doing it over again and having to relearn things, but in like a different way because in that one, in that DLC, it's like, oh no, she's actively trying to kill you the entire time.

So you got to like keep moving and do stuff.

So I imagine it's kind of that similar thing here if you go from one to the other.

Or if you played Shovel Knight.

And all the then follow-up Shovel Knight games that were not actually playing a Shovel Knight anymore.

Yeah, it's still the same but different which i think is the sign of like that's a solid sequel yes for sure i think they kept enough same

for you to to feel like okay i i i understand

the concept of this thing i've picked up right this is my currency this is you know the like trinket mechanic this is something that i can use but they've adjusted the trinket mechanic right it's slightly different for hornet because because she

uses different things and fights in different ways.

That's a hard balance, right?

Sure.

To figure out how do we make it so that this still feels good to the players that loved how it felt to play Hollow Knight.

And I think they've done a good job with it.

I was sort of delighted with one of the newer mechanics in it, aside from the pogoing.

Yeah, it's still got all of the things that you might be looking for in War Hollow Knight, so to speak, right?

It's a huge world.

It's very exploration focused.

You know, you're

getting skills and you're meeting cool characters.

And yeah, this one is just Hollow Knight, but more and with a new character.

So I'm very happy with that.

While I was playing yesterday, someone was saying that there have been complaints that it's not different enough.

But I would argue that most people that loved Hollow Knight didn't want it to be different, really.

You know, I think they needed to be careful about how different it was.

Yeah, I mean, it's the franchise, you can't like completely change a thing or it's something completely different.

Yeah.

And at the end of the day, I think a lot of people fell in love with

the movement and the world.

So if you give them good tight mechanics and

a new world to explore that feels

like Hollow Knight, they're going to love it.

And that's exactly my experience so far with the game.

So, cool.

Yeah, I'm very happy with it.

I'm noticing a thing I think is kind of funny.

I'm glad you're streaming it.

That's really cool.

And I hope that everyone loves that and you like, enjoy yourself.

I'm seeing a lot of people who are like, I'm not going to stream this dude.

Which I very much understand.

Yeah.

Like, I don't like streaming a Metroidvania because my

inconsistency and inability to not be salty at some things would ruin a stream.

Like, there's moments where I will hit a puzzle and be like, nah, I'll come back later.

When if I was on stream, I know I'd attempt to do it over and over and over and over again just because I was on stream.

And especially, you know, you're saying like the bouncing thing, having to learn that.

Like, most Metroidvanias have some sort of moment where it's like, this is going to be a hard platforming sequence.

Good luck, bitch.

And

yeah, I'll look at those at home and be like, not tonight.

I'll just go do something else.

No, thank you.

Yeah, because, like, that's, I don't want to do.

I don't, I, those drive me crazy.

I'm not good at it.

I, uh, yeah, I definitely am more of a watch someone play a Metroidvania who's competent than me play it and be like, why can't I get this?

I just would rather

that's how I feel about a lot of of horror games sure

is

i

oh my god did i tell you that i that i played the beginning of dead take

wait let's let's switch gears here for a second hold on this is what i love about this is dead take is like

barely a horror game which is awesome because it means that it got you and i'm gonna love this so please

enlighten me

i don't know what it was about that game because I think you made it pretty clear to me that

it's jumps, it like it has jump scares for sure, and I experienced them.

It's mostly just a red star's face, which is very funny.

Yeah, generally, it's just

walk around, collect information, complete some light puzzles, watch some videos, and watch some videos.

I don't know what it was about that game, but because I knew that it was not, there is like a specific type of spooky game

that I enjoy and can play easily.

Atmosphere really affects me.

I realize it does have like an unsettling atmosphere.

Yes.

Yeah.

So even though logically I knew nothing was going to happen to me and I was just going to keep playing the game and collecting things and whatever at a certain point I was like, I am getting so stressed out.

So stressed out.

And I think that's my equivalent of what you're saying with streaming, because

I hate going to stream a horror game and realizing like, I don't think that I can play this very well on stream.

Right.

And I'm overthinking like.

Everybody who's watching also knows that this is a low tier horror game, right?

That it's not that scary.

And I'm tapping out.

Like, I don't like that feeling.

I would much rather play that sort of a thing off stream.

Once I realize it's not the kind of horror game that I can enjoy on stream, I would much rather be like, you know what?

I'm going to play this later or watch somebody else play it.

Yeah, there's,

it's really hard to

have this.

It's like a weird conversation to have because it's very like self

like act.

I don't want to say axialization, but you you know, like

we can say, I don't like this thing.

I don't like playing it on stream.

And chat will be like, but that's why it's fun watching you.

But it's like, I understand.

I get it.

I love that you love watching me suffer.

However, I don't like suffering.

It's like, I don't know how to explain to you that I don't like it.

It may be comedy gold, but I am the one who has to do it and I don't like doing it.

And that's, I think that's, I understand where you're coming from.

i think i can really enjoy and get into an atmospherically spooky game if it is also at the end of the day an action game interesting games like dead space dead space i'm fine i was gonna ask like so dead take is a game that is

i mean at one point you literally find a picture of sam lake so like

It is very, to me, inspired by the Remedyverse.

And so I was going ask you

have you played alan wake or any of those because like those games i played control i haven't played it alan wake so like alan wake 2 has the exact same tension level as dead take and that you don't see walking down the thing and it'll be like

like they'll just be like dudes you're like what the hell but you have a gun so i wonder if you could i think that makes a huge difference

knowing that you can freak out and shoot something and it gets booked yes All right.

So you could, so if that game gave you a weapon, you could have done dead tank.

I might be fine.

Yeah.

But the thing is, there is literally, and I mean,

this is no spoiler, but kind of, there's nothing that's going to attack you in that game.

Nothing can kill you.

And you told me that.

You explicitly told me no one attacks you.

Dead Tank is literally an atmospheric, like storytelling thing.

Yeah.

You know what?

I think the tipping point for me being like, I'm too stressed out playing this actually was

the first video you watch of Ben Starr's character

when he like starts to do the scene and then gets interrupted by

the like director.

The director yells at him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bro, that video, I was so uncomfortable, which was the intention, right?

It was, it was meant to be like a tense, toxic, fucked up scene that you're just like locked in a chair watching.

and when it was done I was like I think I think I'm gonna take what's what's fascinating is like I was already stressed out and now I'm I'm like

see it's so interesting to see what like what's fascinating to me is what you pick up on versus what I pick up on because you're like oh my god it's terrible scenes he's yelling at him and me the entire time I'm obsessed with things like so Those of you who don't know what Dead Tick is, it is a game about essentially Hollywood and what it takes to become famous and all these people willing to become famous on the back of a producer who is a giant piece of shit, like a genuine bad person.

And everyone will do anything for this guy because he's the best in the business.

And so, one of the crazy things that is in this game is that they do auditioning tapes for this role.

And for me, it's a horror game, sure, but I was obsessed with the fact that

there is a scene that is done both by Ben Starr and Neil Newman,

and they're doing the exact same dialogue, the exact same thing, but it's two completely different takes.

And as a fan of like just acting, I was obsessed with that.

They were trying to scare me, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

There's a cat behind you.

Is that what that noise is?

Oh, no, that's not a cat.

What the hell, dude?

I thought that was a cat.

No, there's a, there's like a thumping.

While we're talking about fucking horror games, there's a weird thumping noise coming from sam's office and i cannot figure out what it is

i don't this seems like one of those times that we should tune into sam's stream but i also know if we do

streaming i don't think oh he's not streaming oh well then that's just uh porn

it sounds like

you know when your upstairs neighbor is loud and you take the broom and you're like

yeah yeah yeah it sounds like it sounds like that

maybe he's telling you to keep it down.

Or he heard you talk about scary games and he's messing with you.

In which case, hell yeah, Sam.

Hell yeah.

My man, keep it up.

So another game that I played, which piggybacks off of this conversation really well, I thought I had played the demo of it, but it turns out that actually you're the one who told me about it on a previous Geekenders and I just wish listed it based entirely on your recommendation, which is Hell is Us.

Ah, yes.

Which also just came out.

Yep.

So I played a bunch of Hell is Us today.

That game is so cool.

It's very weird.

Like, weird on a level.

What a cool game.

I don't think anyone's prepared for.

Yeah, I love it.

It's

shout out to my boy, Elias Defexis.

Just killing it.

Adam Jensening, his way through a weird,

weird game.

I'll let you explain it, but like,

weird is like, I don't know, please.

The game starts off with you in custody.

You're hooked up to a lie detector and they're dripping a truth serum into you and asking you a bunch of questions about how you got into

a certain country, a country that is completely locked down.

They reveal that you were smuggled out as a child and you specifically went out of your way to smuggle yourself back in.

which is very both are very hard to do

so then you start telling the story of what you did while you were in that country.

And that is the game.

And the game is an interesting blend.

For a moment, quick moment.

Can you explain who you're telling that information to?

I don't, I have no, I don't know.

Am I supposed to know that?

Do you not, the character designs for these characters?

Oh, I mean, I saw him.

Yeah.

It's just, it's just

everyone looks like a villain in spawn.

You know what I mean?

Like all the characters look like spawn villains.

And you're like, what the hell is happening right now?

Yeah.

This dude's, his teeth are gigantic.

And

he is, he's like wearing like a weird.

I don't know.

He looks like he was, he was plucked out of the 40s, maybe, and for some reason is conducting this interview.

Like all, yeah, the character designs really surprised me in certain, it, like, some,

most characters look like normal people.

And then occasionally there's a character where you're like, what's going on with you?

Honestly, you designed like that.

I feel like this may be a game that has layers where like, maybe your character's dead.

You know what I mean?

Like, I don't have any answers, but.

It's weird to the point where I'm like, all right, the game's called Hell is Us.

And I know it's about war.

So it's probably like, you know, about the war, but also maybe they're just in hell.

Like, I don't, like, I genuinely don't know, but it is

bizarre.

Anyway, please continue.

That's okay.

Yeah.

So the game is

a, it's like a, a puzzle souls like, which was very

interesting as a concept to me.

So it is an action RPG.

You're dropped into this world.

There is like fighting, but there's also like

weird doors with, with codes that need to be put into them that you have to just walk away from because you don't have the code yet.

You have to like keep a running list in your mind of places to go back to.

You have like a tablet basically that keeps track of all of your current ongoing investigations and the information that you've found.

It's really cool in that way.

You're really piecing together.

information.

There's, like I said, there's lots of side quests.

You might meet a character and they're holding on to something while you're talking to them.

And you're like, okay, it's weird, whatever.

And then way later, you talk to a different person and they're like, ah, if only I had this.

And you think, oh shit, I can go back and get that thing from that person, maybe, you know.

But Jesse's right.

At the end of the day, the major story

is this country that you're in, which is a made-up country.

This country that you're in that has been like fully locked down has, for as long as people can remember, had two races of people

that despise each other.

They serve the same God.

They live in the same country, but they are actively trying to destroy each other and hate each other.

And so

you are sort of thrown into a situation where you are trying to find your parents.

You have a little bit of information about who your dad was and what town he was in, potentially.

But that's all that you have.

So you're like, I'm going to try to find this town.

I'm going to try to find this guy.

But of course, on the way, you start running into weird creatures,

strange paranormal stuff is going on.

There's this gigantic orb that is just sitting there.

And if you approach it,

it is like

a time.

thing.

There's like a there's like a time sphere.

Trying to keep it to what what the demo contains really quickly, just to explain like where this game goes.

Your first main objective is like, man, I need to get this armored personnel carrier so I can get further into the battlefield because I got to find information about, you know, my family or whatever.

That's the objective.

And reality, what you're doing is

going, entering an ancient tomb.

And this tomb has a story in it where you learn about like a queen

and the like a thousand year ago history or longer of this country

and weird like

creepy no-faced monsters attack you and you get a weird sword that you have to then use to kill the monsters then you get other weapons too

so now you're dark souls in but at the same time your objective still is i need to get this armored armored personnel carrier and this apc so like it's like a very bizarre amalgamation of things.

Yet is incredibly fun.

It works really well, and it does not pull punches.

Keep that in mind.

There's a town that you get to very quickly after the sequence that Jesse's talking about, where pretty much every conversation you have with someone in this town is

horrifying.

Like, it's just awful.

It really wants you to understand

how awful everyone is to each other.

And

I don't know whether or not this will matter in the game, really.

But, but all of these side quests that you get, things like, oh, this person wants this thing, and I saw a person who has that thing.

When you get that information,

it procs with a thing that pops up that's like, you have an opportunity to do a good deed.

So, a lot of these side quests are opportunities for for good deeds.

And when you complete them, it goes into a catalog of like

people that you've met and helped.

Right.

And at a certain point, I think there's, there's like a priest to this God that everyone worships.

And

he

explains that it is his firm belief that

the most important thing that people could do right now is be kind to each other.

And I don't, I don't know if those things are supposed to come together, right?

Of like, if you just keep doing

good turns for as many people as possible while trying to also,

you know, complete your own

personal goals, whether or not that will have an effect on the world in some way.

I mean, I don't know.

It seems like a pretty solid game mechanic that's been done in the past of like, if you just play the story and breeze through it, you get one ending, but if you do all the side content, you get another.

Like that kind of vibe.

Because there's definitely a thing, maybe, yeah, yeah, there's definitely a moment early on, at least in the demo, because I mean, that's all that I played, where it's like, hey, there's an old man, and all of his boys are dead, except maybe one's alive out there.

So if you can find any kind of evidence, like that kind of thing, and take it back to the old man, and it's not something you need to do, and it's kind of out of the way, but if you do it, it's like, you're a good guy, mister.

Yeah,

does that matter?

You know,

I don't know either.

And again, because the game is

so quickly

trying to really make it clear, like this is a

forever

civil war, basically.

Right.

I don't know if, and this would be very depressing, but I don't know if at the end it's going to be like.

No, those good deeds didn't do anything.

Right.

Like if it's, if it

is going to lean more realistic and that you need to be doing things that are more actionable.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm really curious.

I feel like I feel like there's totally what direction it's going to go in because of how serious it is right now.

You know, there's like a good way to do that and a bad way to do that.

Like, there's some games.

Oh, what was the name of that game?

Oh, my God.

Indica.

Oh, yeah.

Has a solid twist ending that is really well done.

And I love the way they did that.

But there are many games where that whole like, everything you did, it doesn't matter kind of thing, it doesn't land well.

And I can imagine in a

like a war story having that like,

yeah, you tried to help people, but helping it didn't even help, you know, those little things you didn't, but I feel like

the smart take on that is

even if it didn't help anyone, it was the act of doing those things that made the war a little easier on people.

It was still the right thing.

Yeah, it's still the right thing to do.

It feels like that should be acknowledged.

And I think an ending where it's like,

you thought that you were going to, you idiot, war sucks.

And you, I feel like that's like, not just on the nose, but like kind of an asshole statement.

You know what I mean?

Like, don't ever do anything good.

In a short game, maybe.

I'd be like, yeah, right.

But a game where you're expected to explore and meet people, do your main quests, do your side quests, potentially spend like tens of hours on the game.

If at the end, it's like, all that effort you did, that was for nothing.

I don't, I don't think that would be good game design.

Right.

So it has to have some effect.

Yeah.

I mean, like, if you're telling a four-hour story about war and it's like, all the things you did meant nothing because the town was nuked.

Or one of those things.

Like, okay, yeah, all right.

We got a little like

four hour story about like, man, war does suck, fine, but you're right.

If it's if you're like 25 hours in and you've gotten to know the world and you've done some things, it's really kind of like cynical game design to say, you fool, everything that you did meant nothing.

Because, like, it was all a dream.

Those are all on the same tree, I think.

Anything that's like all of your effort didn't matter.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, I absolutely understand

it's the concept of the gotcha moment versus, yeah, okay,

sure,

I understand that in the grand scheme of things, I probably didn't do anything important, but in the moment I gave some levity and joy to a person that was suffering.

Why is that bad?

You know, right.

And so I don't, yeah, oh, I'm not like, if that's what happens at the end, I'd be like, how dare you?

Yeah.

To go into a slightly goofier thing as my final game that I would love to talk about I did I did get into Deadlock, which is

I guess you would say in beta.

It's um it's Valve's new MOBA that is a combination of a MOBA and a hero shooter shooter shooter

I had a hell of a time getting my invite because the way that they have it set up is if you're a play tester, you're able to invite anyone on your friends list to also be a playtester.

And I was invited by so many people, but could not find the invite anywhere.

I was like, guys, I want to play this game so bad.

And the reason I wanted to play it, and I will, and I have no shame saying this, is I saw a lot of great fan art of the characters.

And I was like, who are these characters?

What game are they from?

And they're all from Deadlock.

Specifically, Deadlock just had a big update.

With a bunch of new characters that everybody is loving.

But the concept of the game is a MOBA.

It's a third-person MOBA.

And you build out the character, which is, I guess, sort of league-ish as well.

You build out the character, you buy items, you upgrade your abilities, and

you push lanes, get to the objective, and destroy, you know, whatever they've got at their base.

It's normal MOBA stuff.

The thing that's really cool and unique about it, I think, and maybe there have been other MOBAs like this, and I just don't play enough of them, but there is a system inside where people can submit their own builds, which I think makes it

very

newbie-friendly.

So you come into the game, the game chooses your lane for you.

There's no like, I'm going top lane, you go middle lane, none of that.

The second that you're in, you are on a zip line to your lane.

The game has chosen it.

So you skip all of that.

And then when it comes to buying items, there is a like a basic build that you can follow for each character that's just built into the game.

But then also

there are

submitted builds by players and any player can submit a build.

They can be voted on as like good or, you know, effective builds.

And you can put a bunch of information in there.

So you can say, like,

buy these at the very start, buy these mid-game, buy these at the end.

Or you can go even more information, buy these if you want to go more melee, buy these active abilities if you're struggling with, you know, damage.

You, people are putting a lot of effort into making these really good builds for characters.

So you can go in and when you first play as the character, you can just follow the basic build.

And if you're really enjoying it, you can go, I wonder what kind of builds people are making for them, right?

And

it takes that element out of you having to

figure out how to build a character in a game when maybe that's not really your forte.

You know,

it's really fun, it's really fun.

The characters are very fun.

I unfortunately fell in love with a character that I guess has a really high skill ceiling.

So all of the community builds are like for advanced players.

And I was like, no,

but as a person who is not good at MOBAs,

the the tutorial is whatever.

It's like fine.

But playing, you have, you can do bot games, easy, medium, and hard bot games.

I did a bunch of bot games.

Playing against people is, of course, a whole different ballgame, especially in a game where everybody is mostly a play tester because a lot of them have been playing forever and matchmaking isn't sorted yet.

There aren't enough players for matchmaking to be balanced at all.

But the game itself, I think, is really fun.

And I think doing like the smite thing where you're not not like all the way up here you're just right here playing playing the game it takes some of the visual clutter out of it and makes it so that you can just focus on like okay the game dropped me in my lane I'm killing things I kill things I guess you know

it winds up feeling a lot more simple this is fascinating to me because the game has sort of like uh

when you said the fan art got you my expectation immediately was oh it's is gonna be horny as hell.

There is not a damn thing horny about anything I'm seeing on this screen.

Every character.

It's not horny fan art.

I would love to know what the internet thinks of this game because the characters look like

just like people

or

or um

I don't know like

Kind of like similar to other things.

So for example, there's blue hellboy and there is blue hellboy legally distinct legally distinct Blue Hellboy.

There are characters like one of them is

basically like, I guess she's

ghost,

whatever her name is, Widowmaker.

Literally, this guy, Kelvin, is just how I imagine I look, but dressed as May, which I assume he has the exact same abilities as May.

But then there's also characters that have very similar functions to things like you brought up,

oh my God,

the

gods game.

Help me out.

Smite.

Smite.

You brought up smite.

There are characters that literally look like they're doing a smite thing.

Like, I feel like they pulled from a bunch of different MOBA things, put them in this game, but then, yeah, none of the characters are kind of like the sex pot, the horned-up one.

So the one that's the

like none of them, even the one I see most of the fan art of, which I'm assuming is Lady Geist.

She doesn't look.

There's nothing like overtly horny about her.

She's just kind of like

half-dead starlet.

So, most of the horny art that I've seen, and again, that's not even like most of the art I see, but the horny art that I do see is of the doorman,

the redhead guy with the glowing blue eyes and keyholes on his chest.

That's so funny.

He literally is a bell, he's a bellhop.

He's a bellhop.

He's a bellhop.

Stop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's not a, that's like, yeah, all right, I get it.

I get it.

Horny's going to find a way to horn.

And they're also saying Ivy, the gargoyle girl, apparently.

Ivy is also, has a bunch of not safe for work art of her.

I'm not sure why.

That's so fun.

Yeah, that's not even like.

Okay, sure.

Like, there are other characters where you think, okay, that's...

Like, I guess there's a deadlock vampire that just was announced.

And she's like, she has strong get ready internet.

There's going to be a lot of erotica of her.

Yeah, that's.

All right.

Well, that's fun.

That's cool.

It looks neat.

Yeah.

It's a fun game.

It's really, really fun.

If you want to play it,

I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Every character that I've played as, I've enjoyed myself, which I think is saying something in a game like that where they're putting out a bunch of characters.

It would be really easy for some of them to be boring.

But it's basically all of them have been fun.

It's like a three-lane kind of smitey thing

it's a yeah it's a three-lane

smitey thing but you don't there isn't like i'm a sniper and i'm gonna jump up to a rooftop on the lane and shoot down at you

you can okay so it's

it's it's both a smitey thing and like uh like an overwatch thing

Yeah, that's why I was saying it's it's a it's a hero shooter as well.

Gotcha.

Okay.

Because there are like there is terrain and levels, and there's like a city that you can run through and utilize to your advantage.

All right.

Interesting.

Yeah.

And that's it.

I guess I'm realizing that it's six o'clock.

Yikes.

Do we have news?

Uh, we do.

Yikes, yikes, yikes.

We do.

Uh, hey, by the way, I will say

I finally got around to starting to watch some like TV

when it comes to like the nerdy TV.

Hot takes one, season two

of Peacemaker so far.

You know what?

John Cena can act.

I like sometimes forget.

Yeah, it's fun.

Yeah.

I haven't watched it at all.

And then finally caught up on Wednesday.

It's not as good as season one.

That's what I'll.

It's fine.

It's not as good as season one.

And then I decided I'd start watching that Daredevil show that they put out that I never watched.

Right.

It is a show with some incredible scenes mixed in with like, goddammit, Marvel.

So, like, like, you know, like, it's very Disney.

It's very, yeah, but then every once in a while, there's a scene where you're like, yo, that was good.

So, yeah, anyway,

it's a thing.

So, I watched, I started watching all those.

It's been good.

Uh,

because now I'm not watching Gordon Rams.

I've been through every season of Hell's Kitchen.

I've watched it all, baby.

So,

yeah.

Anyway, the news.

The news.

Big news of the week.

Sunksong launched and it destroyed everything.

Steam, Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, all their online stores.

Every online store broke.

Went down.

100,000 players in the first 30 minutes registered on Steam.

Outages reported all over the place.

Everyone was posting pics online.

Turns out buying it via websites worked just fine.

But doing it through the online storefronts kept crashing

everything.

So thankfully, that's not a problem now.

But I guess at one point, they had 500,000 people playing.

But 100,000 in the first 30 is pretty crazy.

Like, that is,

that's, that's,

that's some wild shit.

Yeah, Cherry made some bucks off of this.

Let's just say that.

All right.

Yeah.

Roblox.

This is very related to, hey, hi.

I have another channel now called Too Old for This.

And it's, I did a Roblox video.

If you want to see some of the craziest shit you've ever seen,

Roblox, I don't know what's going on over there.

Anyway, Roblox apparently doesn't either because they announced all players who communicate in the game need to be age-verified by the end of the year.

I guess they have verifications that exist already, but this is like the real deal instead of

what verifications they have now.

So I don't know what that means.

If you're gonna have to like submit an ID, but uh, yo,

honestly, Roblox is how much

with how much crazy shit happens on Roblox and the fact that like everybody's being warned, like, do not let your kid talk to anybody on that goddamn game.

Like, I think this is needed.

Yeah, it's um,

the Roblox content that I've watched lately is a lot of like uh

here's some of the titles:

got pregnant by school kid,

mom angry, billionaire,

or I fell in in love, but turns out he was cheating on my sister?

Like that, like those are the videos.

And I'm like, who is this content for?

Our kids, the amount,

it's weird.

It's, I just can't

go.

I will simply say, go watch the first 30 seconds of the most recent tool for this video.

You'll be like, what?

The hell is happening in Roblox?

It's crazy.

So, Roblox, what are you up to?

Then

we talked about Yoshi P a little earlier.

Well, let's continue that conversation.

Apparently, he had an interview with JP Games in which he was talking about needing to change content for Final Fantasy 14.

And he said that

I started to feel recently, particularly, that the way things are structured in 14 no longer matches players' preferences, and we should definitely change that as we enter the new year.

And so I felt that now we're at a time where we need to incorporate major changes.

Basically, he goes on to talk about how they divided the game into hardcore, mid-core, and casual categories for the last 12 years.

And he realizes that what they need to do is make it so if they release five bits of content, instead of two being hardcore, one being, you know, mid-core, and two being casual, all five need to relate to all five.

Like every of the three categories needs to have all five bits of content for them.

And so to him, I say, God bless.

Good luck.

No one will ever be happy.

What you just did is going to make hardcore players say that it's casual and make casual players say that it's too hardcore.

There's absolutely no way to ever win.

I've said this before.

I'll say it again.

Why would you become an MMO developer?

It just seems like the worst.

It just seems intolerable.

But they say they're going to try and they're really going to

figure out a way to make it so everyone can play everything and you know a hardcore player can get something great out of it and a casual player can get something great out of it.

And you know, good luck.

If it works, it works.

If not,

it wouldn't change a thing in the world.

The internet would still chug along.

Then Jason Schreier over at Bloomberg was reporting about how Microsoft was working on Perfect Dark, which was announced back in 2020.

It was the reboot.

And I guess the dev team was laid off with all the Microsoft lays off.

Layoffs?

Laids off is what I said, I guess.

Yep.

So take two took the game to Embracer Group, which why would you do that?

Embracer has done nothing but kill games and was like, hey, Embracer, hey, Microsoft, do you guys want to help us fund the rest of this game?

And I guess talks fell through because they were fighting over who would have long-term control over ownership of the franchise.

Again, a franchise that is technically dead and they were trying to reboot, but I guess they were fighting over it.

And so as of now, Perfect Dark, once again, put back in the tomb.

We probably will never see that again.

So

that's so annoying.

The fact that they worked on it and released trailers for it and stuff is just so goofy.

Then speaking of goofy, Activision has signed a deal with Paramount to make a Call of Duty movie.

In a press release, they talked about it.

They hyped it up.

They said it's going to be amazing.

The CEO of Paramount was like, I love Call of Duty.

It's one of my favorite games.

So I'm going to make my own press release here right now.

The Call of Duty movie is going to suck so much, ass, y'all.

It's going to be terrible.

It's going to be bad.

It's going to be one of the worst stupid things that ever existed.

So

that's my presser.

There you go.

It movies.

Yikes.

And then, speaking of a movie that I'm not sure if it'll suck or not, but I'm definitely going to go see it.

Mortal Kombat 2, which was supposed to come out in exactly eight weeks, has now been pushed to next may

which either means it's much better than we think or they don't know where to put that movie because

may is blockbuster season may june july those are blockbusters which means do they think it's gonna crush i don't know i honestly hope it does I would love a Mortal Kombat movie that was great.

The last one, it was whatever.

It was, it was like fine.

It wasn't great um

but i have you know what

i have hope i have constant hope just like i have hope for the street fighter movie that movie may suck but i'm gonna watch it because i want to see that movie be good

yeah we'll we'll see what happens but it's pushed back till may

literally days before my birthday so that might be a little treat for me

dang look at that yeah so that is uh yeah mortal kombat 2 pushback but uh maybe that means it's good because again, if it's pushed back to like February, then you know it's a stinker.

February is when they release all the trash movies.

It's usually when like bad horror movies come out.

Like that's February.

May?

That's May is when like the bangers come out.

So either it's some sort of crazy tax scheme, which it may be, or it's

something we'll figure out next year and maybe it's great.

I don't know.

No clue.

And that's the news.

Look at that.

Jesse, what have you you got going on this week?

Well, hey, hi.

Before we started anything, did you, Dodger, were you aware that we are hosting a thing?

Were you aware of this?

I did know that.

Did you know that we were hosts?

We were doing some like cool hosting stuff.

Were you aware of this?

I did know about that.

September 18th.

Yeah, any of you who watched the Convergence Showcase

last year,

Jesse and I are going to be hosting it together this year.

They were like, do you want to host with Dodger?

And I said, no, but I'll do it for a million dollars.

And they said, well, we don't have that.

Would you just do it because you like Dodger?

And I was like, fine, God damn it.

So, yeah.

September 18th.

So at 11.30 Pacific time,

what would that be?

Like 2.30 Eastern and then whatever the hell time that is over on your side of the pond.

Yeah.

Very excited.

Yes.

So that is what day is September 18th?

My brain just died.

Next Thursday.

No, two Thursdays from now.

I was going to say, not next Thursday, buddy.

So that is, yeah, that is, that's coming down the pipeline.

Very excited for that.

It's a bunch of fun indie games.

Yeah, it's basically, it's an indie showcase.

Yeah.

Going to be us just showing off and talking about a bunch of really cool indie games that you guys can play.

So

excited for that.

It was really fun last year.

It'll be so fun doing it with Jesse this year.

It's like geekenders, but us promoting like cool games, cool indies.

That's cool.

Us being like, look at this, and this, and also this.

Yeah, very excited.

Yeah, thank you for nepoing me into this.

I'm like, you're so welcome.

Yeah.

You know what?

I pulled some strings, you know.

Thank you.

So that'll be a good time.

Yes.

Yeah.

And that's coming up, but that's in two weeks' time.

For me,

at some point later today, I'm playing with Your Sweet Love and many other people a new PvP mode for Warhammer Space Marine, 40k Space Marine.

Fun.

So that's going to be, I imagine I'll be carried through that.

Can't wait.

And then I assume I'll check out the new Indiana Jones stuff this weekend.

And I also want to play Fresh Tracks, which seems like a very cool skiing game.

I definitely want to go back into No Man's Sky a little bit.

There's a lot of stuff I want to do.

With that said, most important,

tomorrow night, ladies and gentlemen, I just found this out.

And honestly, it's the greatest thing in the world.

Crendor has never seen Fifth Element.

Fifth Element is available for free on YouTube right now.

Tomorrow night, 8 p.m.

Pacific time, Crendor and I are watching Fifth Element, and I am so excited.

This

is about to get Coven!

Covet, Maben!

Covet, Maben!

It's great!

Is that a great Coven?

I can't wait!

I'm so excited!

It's gonna be a good time.

That movie, still this day, I'm convinced, is maybe at best a seven out of 10.

Don't care.

I love it.

I love it.

I love that movie.

It's so fun.

It's like, yeah, it's like not great, but it's very enjoyable.

Lilo Dallas Multipass.

Yeah.

I love it.

Lilo Dallas Multipass.

It's good stuff.

yeah.

I love that movie, so oh my gosh, no, big fan.

Well, uh, I'm gonna continue playing Silk Song in the evenings and

probably keep playing Hell is Us because that game is really interesting.

Other than that, I don't know, just hear vibing, man.

My kid's back to school, so

I'm just doing the dang old thing.

But

hey, guys, if you enjoy Geekenders, did you know you can watch all of the previous GeekEnders on youtube.com/slash Jesse Cox?

And did you know that all of the Geek Enders are put on audio podcasting apps?

Anywhere you listen to your podcasts, you can probably find us.

That's crazy.

That's pretty good.

That's pretty fun.

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

So if you enjoyed this, please go watch, go listen.

Maybe one day Jesse will get a tattoo of my mushroom.

If you all get the requisite number of

views consistently, yes, I will get a mushroom tattoo.

It might be long after Dodger has given up being a mushroom and is now like a spork, like a walking sentient spork.

But I will get that mushroom and I'll let Dodger determine where we put it.

No, I won't.

That's a terrible idea.

That's the worst idea ever.

It'd be right here.

I'd be like, hi, everybody.

Right on your forehead.

Hey, guys.

My life is.

Oh, this whole thing.

Thank you all so much for watching.

We're going to be back next week, I assume.

I have no reason not to be back next week, right?

We will be here.

We will be here.

Same Dukes and Jesse time, same Dukes and Jesse channel.

So, see you next Friday.

Take care of yourselves.

Have an amazing weekend and rest of your week.

And we will see you next time.

Bye-bye.

Duke's man

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