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All right, there's a couple of things going on. Let me just run through some of them that you might have missed this weekend.
The U.S.

Speaker 2 and the United Kingdom, we are conducting multiple rounds of airstrikes right now against the Houthi targets. I don't know.
I'm just not so afraid of the Houthis. Everybody, we're the Houthis.

Speaker 2 But they're from Yemen, everybody's favorite dirtbag country.

Speaker 2 You have a timeshare there, don't you?

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 they said it wasn't a timeshare, but I did get a free weekend of vacation in order to buy it.

Speaker 2 Right, okay. Okay, that's good.
That's good. Okay.
So, anyway, the Houthi targets, they're, you know, we're focusing on their missile launch sites. Now, can I just say something?

Speaker 2 You're Yemen.

Speaker 2 You have missile launch sites?

Speaker 2 Why? What are you protecting?

Speaker 2 Honestly. Well, I've got some radar installations.
For what? Do you have planes? You're Yemen, for the love of Pete. And also their drone storage sites.

Speaker 2 The strikes are in response to the Houthis' persistent attacks on commercial shipping in the Red Sea.

Speaker 2 That's kind of a problem. By the way, they're backed by Iran.
They vowed retaliation. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 We're just continuing and we're pounding them into, well, literally the sand.

Speaker 2 The unintended consequences, don't know yet. We don't know if we're being drawn into another

Speaker 2 protracted conflict. I doubt it.
Houthis are funded by Iran. I mean, how many fronts is Iran fighting right now?

Speaker 2 They've got Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and now, you know, that country where the Houthis are. I mean,

Speaker 2 I am guessing

Speaker 2 it's not going to last long, which saddens all of us who just love the military-industrial complex somewhere. Listen.
Yes, that's the sound of Lindsey Graham weeping. It's not going to last long.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, our tensions with Iran are up.

Speaker 2 You know, they're,

Speaker 2 again, like I said, they're fighting with their militias in Iraq and Syria.

Speaker 2 And we have intelligence reports now saying that Iran is increasing their nuclear enrichment capability. My question is, you know, I've been on the air covering the news since 2000.

Speaker 2 Before that, I was, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm ashamed to say it, but I was playing records and

Speaker 2 literally records. But

Speaker 2 I've been following this for a while. And even when I was, you know, saying, hey, everybody, it's Britney Spears, I was paying attention to the news.
How long, how long are we going to hear?

Speaker 2 You know, they're very close to a nuclear weapon. They're very, very,

Speaker 2 they're

Speaker 2 within 30 days of a nuclear weapon. I've been saying that because that's what the experts have said.
And I know now that I've said, you know what, I'm kind of sick of hearing about the other 30.

Speaker 2 Now they probably are 30 days away from a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 2 Anyway, you know, Iran is unstable, and I think Donald Trump is trying to surround them.

Speaker 2 The good news is, price of oil is down, and so is oil futures, which

Speaker 2 I don't mean like, hey, there's all kinds of bloodshed, but oil is down.

Speaker 2 What I mean is, I don't think because of the futures market this weekend, I don't think anybody is thinking it's going to go well for Iran and the Houthis.

Speaker 2 Rapid advancement of AI technology again over the weekend. Profound ethical questions abound.
Now, concerns about job displacement, bias in the algorithms, the potential for misuse. What?

Speaker 2 What could possibly?

Speaker 2 Come on, what could possibly happen? We're just creating something that we have no idea how it works. It could be smarter than all human brains combined for the history of humanity.

Speaker 2 What could possibly go wrong? The medical industry now is rapidly changing due to AI advancements.

Speaker 2 Now, I read this story. I read this story about how AI is now getting involved, you know, and deeply, deeply involved in medicine.

Speaker 2 And I thought, well, that's a good thing, unless you've ever watched a movie, you know, or know history at any time.

Speaker 2 Oh, by the way, here we are at a dawn, I'm quoting, a dawn of a new era. Oh,

Speaker 2 that's good,

Speaker 2 I guess, as we look into medicine. Do you remember your mother, if she ever said this to you, watching TV and she'd turn it off and she'd like, garbage in, garbage out.
I'm like, I know.

Speaker 2 I am the literal first garbage pale kid, mom. Yes, that's the point.
Anyway, garbage in, garbage out. What kind of medical and ethical ESG and DEI garbage are we shoveling into AI?

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm just saying, you know, when it comes to the doctor thing. Oh, by the way, did you hear the story coming from

Speaker 2 MI6? They just released that MI6 knew that

Speaker 2 the Chinese and the Wuhan lab,

Speaker 2 that's where the virus, they knew that. So if they knew that, we knew that.
If we and they knew that, Australia knew that. They were building concentration camps in Australia and they knew the truth.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's not disturbing. Anyway, back to medicine and all the people that are running our great societies.

Speaker 2 What could possibly happen, you know, with all the garbage in?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 teaching AI to think. I regret teaching my teenage son how to think.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's just me. Egg prices are down.

Speaker 2 Did you hear that? Has anybody, I mean, they were all, they were talking two weeks ago about bringing in egg cartons. What out of the egg prices?

Speaker 2 Egg prices, what is it now? Down from

Speaker 2 the average for the

Speaker 2 average price for a dozen eggs now

Speaker 2 is $4.15.

Speaker 2 That means it's dropped almost $3

Speaker 2 in the last seven days. It was as high as $8.05.

Speaker 2 So egg prices are down. Maybe we just all stopped.
By the way, if the chickens ever organize, we're looking at $12 a dozen. I'm telling you, the chicken union will be brutal.

Speaker 2 Donald Trump has signed his

Speaker 2 funding bill that will avoid a government shutdown. Some of us

Speaker 2 are disappointed. I mean, I'm glad that he got the bill and I understand the strategy, but I still wouldn't have minded the government shutting down for, for, I don't know, maybe just ever.

Speaker 2 Just saying.

Speaker 2 The continuing resolution, H.R. 1968, passed the House of Representatives, margin 20, 217 to 13.

Speaker 2 Then it went to the

Speaker 2 Senate, and I don't know, it was 54 to...

Speaker 2 46. I'm not good at math.
I have no idea. I don't even know.
Are there 100 senators? Who knows?

Speaker 2 Donald Trump just said big tax cuts, L.A. fire fix, debt ceiling bill, and so much more is coming.
We should all work together on that very dangerous situation.

Speaker 2 A non-pass would be a country destroyer. Approval will

Speaker 2 lead us to new heights. I think he's right on that.

Speaker 2 But maybe it's just me. By the way, they met on this tariff thing with Canada over the weekend.

Speaker 2 The Ontario Premier, Doug Ford, and multiple federal officials met with our U.S. Commerce Secretary, Howard Luttnick.
What do you know about Luttnick?

Speaker 2 I like him a lot.

Speaker 2 He may be, he might be, and now this is saying something,

Speaker 2 because when I say this to you, when I say, who's your favorite commerce secretary in the history of the United States? Of course you think, well, don't even say, don't even say, because I think.

Speaker 2 Howard Luttnick may be my favorite commerce secretary. Really? And that, I mean, that competition is,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 when you think of your favorite over the years, all of your favorite commerce secretary. You want to go back.
Yeah, go all the way back.

Speaker 3 Oh, if you want to. Because

Speaker 3 I was only thinking recent history.

Speaker 2 No, you want to go all the way back. All the way back.
Think about all the names that come to mind. You know what I mean? Oh, gosh.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So many of them.

Speaker 2 So many of them.

Speaker 2 Anyway, so Howard Luttnick,

Speaker 2 I actually really like him, but he was meeting with the Canadians. And

Speaker 2 here's the story, ready? I want to read this exactly. After a lengthy meeting with the U.S.

Speaker 2 President Donald Trump's top trade officials on Thursday, Canadian representatives say they have a clearer understanding of the rationale behind Trump's insistence on tariffs, not just on Canada, but the whole world.

Speaker 2 In an interview on power and politics... Wow, doesn't that sound like a good show?

Speaker 2 Serious. I got to look.

Speaker 2 Just looking that up right now. I got to remind myself, watch power and politics.
It sounds great.

Speaker 2 Anyway, on power and politics,

Speaker 2 he said,

Speaker 2 oh, crap, I think I just deleted the whole story. No, there it is.
Patterson told the host that Canadians and Americans had a 90-minute meeting.

Speaker 2 And for the first half hour, it was a masterclass from Lutnick on breaking down the U.S. position on tariffs.
You know, it's good to hear that. It's good to hear that.

Speaker 2 You know, good to get, it's, it's nice to hear that somebody was like, oh, well, at least I understand it. Because that doesn't happen anymore.
You know what I mean? We just argue.

Speaker 2 You're like, no, you don't understand.

Speaker 2 No, that's not what I'm.

Speaker 2 No, but see, you, and everybody just keeps arguing. It's nice to hear.
Master class from Lutnick in breaking down the U.S. position on tariffs.
Focus, now they explain it to us. The focus of the U.S.

Speaker 2 government is dealing with its yearly deficit in spendral, spe federal spending. According to the U.S.
Treasury Department, the federal government ran a $1.83 trillion U.S.

Speaker 2 deficit in 2024 fiscal year. So, Lutnick said, there are three things the U.S.
government is doing to try to affect the deficit. Okay.

Speaker 2 What do you think they are? What do you think they are? Because this is really complex stuff. I mean,

Speaker 2 this took my favorite Commerce Secretary to explain to Canada. What do you think the three goals are?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm just going to give it to you because, I mean, you're probably way ahead. So I'll just cut it to the chase.

Speaker 2 First

Speaker 2 is a budget resolution that calls for trillions of dollars in spending and tax cuts. Okay, that's number one.
Boy, that took me by surprise.

Speaker 2 The other two are measures to help make the spending and tax cuts happen without growing the deficit, including slashing the government spending through the Department of Government Efficiency and tariffs.

Speaker 2 Boy,

Speaker 2 it took 90 minutes. Was it 90 minutes in that masterclass to explain those three things? Patterson said the American plan.
Now listen to this. This is the Canadian now saying this.

Speaker 2 Patterson said the American plan is to impose tariffs by sector across countries all around the world on April 2nd. From there, the countries that get along with the U.S.,

Speaker 2 they will be first in line to adjust or mitigate the tariffs. This is the policy.
This is the way they're going forward. And I think they gave us a lot of clarity.

Speaker 2 I didn't need the master class. I think I just listened to the president and I got that myself.
But I don't speak Canadian. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 There might be some sort of a language barrier there between us and Canada. But that's pretty much

Speaker 2 what I understood. By the way, if you're buying a car and it's a foreign car,

Speaker 2 you might want to buy it before April. because it's going to go up 25%.

Speaker 2 I had a guy from a friend of mine from a car dealership, and, you know, he's like 25%. April 1st, it goes up 25%.
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Speaker 2 man,

Speaker 2 I feel bad for the people. I mean, I feel bad for everybody, but has anybody thought of the people who are buying Bugattis?

Speaker 2 That's a 25%

Speaker 2 increase on Bugattis. My gosh, that's a lot of money, Stu.

Speaker 3 And the Bugatti is the one that you're going to highlight there.

Speaker 3 You have never heard of any of the other foreign cars that people do buy maybe a little bit more frequently than a Bugatti?

Speaker 2 Like what?

Speaker 3 A Toyota.

Speaker 2 Ah, Toyota.

Speaker 2 Toyota. Okay.

Speaker 2 So, what's a Toyota?

Speaker 3 Some of them do get built here, by the way. We should point it.
Just the foreign cars.

Speaker 2 But do they count?

Speaker 3 I think if it's a car that is assembled here, even if it's a foreign company, I think it clears

Speaker 2 the. But if you're buying a Toyota, let's just say, let's just say.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 okay, so it costs you, what, $25,000 more. Okay.

Speaker 2 A Bugatti? My gosh, do you know how much more money that costs? How do those people live?

Speaker 2 How are they going to do it?

Speaker 3 It is crucial on the chic community.

Speaker 2 It's really crucial. Yeah, all those chics that are living here in the United States are like, my gosh, thank you, Glenn, for pointing that out.
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Speaker 3 We do very well with them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Very, very well. Very well.
Very well. Very well.

Speaker 3 There's only like six of them, them, and we get almost all of them.

Speaker 2 We should get a list of all of the, you know, which cars, because,

Speaker 2 you know, Toyota is built here, but it's assembled here. I don't know what, yeah, I don't know what counts and what doesn't count.

Speaker 3 I mean, this is the issue, though, right? This is why Wall Street is complaining about this and why the markets are rough because no one knows what the heck is going on.

Speaker 2 These rules are so freaking complicated. I'm guessing Howard Luttnick knows.

Speaker 3 I'm sure Howard does. I'm sure he does.

Speaker 2 I'm sure Howard does.

Speaker 3 And he helps design them. This is why you've seen a lot of

Speaker 3 these tariffs come into play and then get kind of, you know, the exceptions made and things reverse because they find something that is a little too objectionable.

Speaker 2 Or they're just saying,

Speaker 2 here's the general rule. Let's work it out because it starts in April.
Probably that. Probably that.
I'm guessing.

Speaker 2 Hey, now let's sit at the table.

Speaker 3 It's a take on it. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 You don't believe that? No, I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 I mean, I think that what happens is they put a big rule out there, and then a lot of

Speaker 3 the interested parties come and say, hey, you know, you're still

Speaker 2 that happens. No, no, no, that happens too.
Yes. There are, there are, you know, big Bugatti.
Big Bugatti is always there. They're already there.
Big Roger. They're already there.

Speaker 2 And big Bugatti are already at the table.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, generally speaking, that they're like, okay, all right, now let's get down and negotiate. You don't want to do that? Okay, well, let's see.
What is it going to take?

Speaker 2 What are we going to actually charge?

Speaker 2 That's what they're doing now. That's why they were here last over the weekend, Stu.
See, that's what they were doing

Speaker 2 was negotiating.

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Speaker 2 Whatever happened to the idea of

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Speaker 2 imagine how much that would change America overnight if everybody was paying 15% income tax, 15% corporate tax, and no loopholes, none of that stuff. Oh, you're a corporation.
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Speaker 2 But that is his target. But that's only for foreign companies, isn't it? If you come in, is it for everybody?

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Well, three months into his second term, President Trump has hit the highest approval rating he has ever had as commander-in-chief.

Speaker 2 That's great. Here's another amazing thing.
More Americans say the country is on the right track right now, more than any other point since 2004.

Speaker 2 It's been a long time since we've thought it was on the right track. But just to make sure you realize, now you haven't slipped through a wormhole, it's still negative.

Speaker 2 It's just that more people think, what are the numbers on that one, Studio? That one?

Speaker 3 44% say the country is on the right track.

Speaker 2 Right. So, you know, the rest of America is like, yeah,

Speaker 2 not on the right track. But it is going in the right direction.
It's almost up to 50% now think we're in the right direction.

Speaker 3 Amazing this country has not had a positive view of that number since 2004.

Speaker 2 Have you? Because I haven't.

Speaker 3 I mean, I guess it's true.

Speaker 3 It's just surprising that we haven't had one positive period. Well,

Speaker 2 the last time that it was

Speaker 2 like this

Speaker 2 was 2004, early 2004. Yeah.
So that's...

Speaker 2 Were we in Iraq yet? Were things completely falling apart in Iraq yet?

Speaker 3 No, no, it was...

Speaker 2 That was... Still going well-ish.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would think, because that was, if you think of

Speaker 3 that election was fought on, I mean, Iraq, a big part of it was Iraq.

Speaker 3 And he was positive enough to actually get re-elected.

Speaker 2 So, you know,

Speaker 2 we had

Speaker 2 a moment there where we were like,

Speaker 2 maybe we're going in the right direction.

Speaker 3 But you think about the period after that, right? You go from that into,

Speaker 3 not too far after that, the financial crisis, 2008, right? That really started bubbling up in 2006, 2007.

Speaker 3 And then you come out of that, you have a period, then you get Marxism.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Barack Obama in the office, which again, a lot of people thought it was good.

Speaker 3 Democrats love that, obviously. And then you get COVID eventually.
So, you know, there's some dark periods through there. We've had every eight to 10 years.

Speaker 2 And I think

Speaker 2 the only reason why Trump didn't get the credit in the first term of people saying, oh, you know what? I think we're headed in the right direction is because there was so much chaos.

Speaker 2 There was so much chaos. And the media, people still believe the media.

Speaker 2 And, you know, they were like, gee, that's, it's just tweets.

Speaker 3 And it was also, you know, close elections, right? Yes. People, in close elections, half the country gets really pissed off that they lost.
As we've maybe discovered over the past few elections.

Speaker 3 But if you look at the way we're talking about generally headed in the right direction, there's been some changes in the past few months.

Speaker 3 So there's some changes. Tell me if you can detect this.

Speaker 2 Okay. Like right now, yes, right now,

Speaker 3 Republicans, 83% of Republicans believe

Speaker 3 they're headed in the right direction. That is up in the last four months slightly from 5

Speaker 3 to what? 5 to 83.

Speaker 2 5 to 83.

Speaker 3 Do you notice a distinction there between those two?

Speaker 2 Can I tell you something? I agree with that. Yeah, I mean, I think.
I was like, we're doomed. We're doomed.
We were all the

Speaker 2 55%

Speaker 2 of us. They were like, no, I think we're in the right direction.

Speaker 3 Democrats have gone kind of the opposite.

Speaker 3 They went from 53% saying...

Speaker 2 You get a negative number when they go down here.

Speaker 3 They're down to six. Six.

Speaker 2 Now, in the middle.

Speaker 2 They're more optimistic than we were. That's good.
I'll take that as a win.

Speaker 3 Independents are up, by the way, from 19% to 26%. So a slight increase for independents in that number.

Speaker 3 Same thing with the economy. Is it excellent or good?

Speaker 3 It was neither.

Speaker 3 It was 52% believe that of Democrats back in the Biden era. That is down to 11, some 52 to 11.

Speaker 3 The increase from the Trump is not nearly as dramatic because he hasn't really done a lot of his stuff yet, right?

Speaker 2 May I just ask you? I'd see, I think this question is so stupid. I think this is so stupid.
Okay. Here's why.

Speaker 2 Picture this. I'm a pollster.
Okay. And I'm taking polls while you're on a plane.
And it's crashing, nosediving down. Sure.
And I say, how's a flight going?

Speaker 2 Are we going in the right direction, wrong direction? You're like, ah, wrong direction. Okay.
Then I follow it up with, how's the flight so far? Is it going well? You know, how are we doing so far?

Speaker 3 If maybe you've pulled it up a little bit before you've hit the ground.

Speaker 2 I know it's, I know it's bad as where it is, but now we got a new, by the way, the pilot, he was having a heart attack. Now the co-pilot is taking it.
And you feel the plane trying to pull up.

Speaker 2 You're still headed down, but the plane is starting to pull up just a little bit.

Speaker 2 Still pessimistic on the plane as I'm taking the poll. I'm still going, not going well.
Not going well. Would you say it's going great? No, I really wouldn't.

Speaker 2 At this point, yes, you've made some corrections, but I really wouldn't say it's great or good. You or good.

Speaker 3 I think captured the Republicans pretty well in this poll, as they were only at 5%

Speaker 3 of thinking the economy was excellent or good back when Biden was in. It's up considerably, but only to 26%.

Speaker 2 Wow. So 5%.

Speaker 2 That one's good. That is that one, I believe.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Again,

Speaker 2 new pilot. New pilot.
Pulling up. Still headed towards the ground.
Right. How are you doing? We are doing.

Speaker 2 Is it good? Good or excellent. Or excellent.
I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 3 I've had better flights. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Less turbulence.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I answer it quite that way or cobbly.

Speaker 2 But yeah. And I think that's where we are.
We all knew we were in a straight-down nosedive. Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, I should say, anybody who actually believes in math knew that we were headed in a straight-down nosedive. We haven't pulled out of that.

Speaker 2 We've slowed the descent some, but we're still headed towards, you know, the, well, we're hitting to, we were headed towards the ground, but what we did is we just started to kind of swoop back up and we realized there's a huge freaking mountain in front of us.

Speaker 2 We got to pull up

Speaker 2 pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And it'll be close.

Speaker 3 And that's why I would certainly be more positive than you would be a few months ago. Right.

Speaker 3 Independents, though, have gone the opposite way. They've gone from 11%, which is not good during Biden, down to 8%

Speaker 3 right now. Ah, margin of error.
Yeah, it is pretty much the margin of error. That's true, actually.
I mean, I think a lot of it's the headline stuff, right? Right now,

Speaker 3 we had a big run-up, you should point out, after the election, after Trump was coming into office, people got really excited, and all the numbers went up. The markets went up.

Speaker 2 Everything was really great. That's so sad.
I mean, that is God.

Speaker 2 Hang on just a second.

Speaker 3 You're skeptical on that stuff, though. I think a lot of people who, like, I had a relative call me the other day.
She's a big Trump supporter, huge Trump supporter, was panicked.

Speaker 3 She's, you know, of the age of needing to access her retirement funds. Okay, that's a problem.
And, you know, was panicked. Like, what do I do? Do I pull my money out? What do I do?

Speaker 3 No, I'm not the person to ask this question of, but I mean, I think that is hitting people when they look at their accounts and they see that, okay, now it's gone down.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're looking at your retirement and you're like, wait, what's happening? What's happening? Those are real things that hit

Speaker 2 people a lot of them Trump supporters But again but again you look at them also understand it's necessary to go through some of this to get to a hopefully a better end I'm if I'm living on on everything that I you know put away I'm not happy.

Speaker 2 I'm not happy. I I'm like Paul Stuart S, could you have the pollster come to my seat right now? Because I'm really not happy right now.
I would be that way. I would be that way.

Speaker 2 But we're all in, if you can step away from it, and I know it's hard if you're living on retirement.

Speaker 2 If you can step away from it for a bit, you can look at it and go, okay, but we're making the necessary changes.

Speaker 2 My side of the plane might be taken out at any moment, but the people on the other side of the aisle might be okay.

Speaker 3 And I think politically where this is important for Trump is if there's only so much of this your audience will take. Yes.
Right.

Speaker 3 And if they, if they feel unstable, like they might agree with your long-term changes, but if

Speaker 3 the, you know, if we go into a recession, yeah, he's got a year. And

Speaker 3 if you care about the rest of his agenda, this stuff is really important.

Speaker 2 So you know, passing the bill over the weekend, not shutting down the government,

Speaker 2 but not shutting down the government is a good thing for his plan. Shutting down the government might have been really bad.
I don't know. At least would have added to more

Speaker 2 chaos.

Speaker 2 Well, shut up.

Speaker 2 And now he can get to the tax cuts and the spending restrictions that he must have.

Speaker 2 Pulling this plane up, all we did was stop the steep, steep nosedive of this plane by saying, We're going to, we're going to try to rein some of this stuff up and try to get, you know, try to slow the descent somewhat.

Speaker 2 We're still headed toward the ground, but not a straight-on, you know, nose impact with the Earth. So now he's got the passing of the

Speaker 2 spending bill, what do you call it, the continuing resolution.

Speaker 2 So he's got the continuing resolution. That's pulling up on the plane.

Speaker 2 Now he needs the Republicans and everybody else in Congress to say, now, pull that thing back, pull the yoke way back on this thing, and let's see if we can get some distance between us and the ground.

Speaker 2 And this is the, to me, this is the first major move that is coming on actually fixing and pulling it up and pointing it back towards the sky, getting off of the

Speaker 2 nose down, prepare for impact. If he can't get this part done, if the Republicans screw around and don't get a serious tax bill, start to let him make serious cuts

Speaker 2 and also serious

Speaker 2 cuts in regulation, you're not going to pull a plane up. You're just not.
But I believe he can do it and I believe we can do it.

Speaker 2 And I think we're on that track.

Speaker 2 I am more optimistic,

Speaker 2 strangely,

Speaker 2 the closer we have gotten to the ground here recently, I'm more optimistic that we have the right pilot.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 hey, everybody, I know you're in first class, so you're closer to the pilot, but that doesn't make you the pilot. Shut the hell up.
Let the pilot fly the plane.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 unfortunately, a little like this analogy, when we hit the ground, there's no like,

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Speaker 2 And more importantly, I think about how we're equipping them to deal with that world.

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Speaker 2 So continuing on this report of the poll, the survey found voters generally feel Trump is bringing the right kind of change. More Americans support his changes to trade policy, 41% to 38%.

Speaker 2 That's surprising to me.

Speaker 2 Despite the stock market sell-off, his decision to slap 25% across the board tariffs on Canada and Mexico, as well as a 20% tariff on China, still 41% to 38%.

Speaker 2 Other key issues,

Speaker 2 Trump's actions on the border, 56% said it was a positive change. I'm having a hard time with that number.
You know, I'd like to have a sit-down with America.

Speaker 2 Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the time.
America, have a seat. Only 56%.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 3 To put that in perspective, though,

Speaker 3 it's 56.25.

Speaker 3 So there's 18% are saying, oh, either there's no,

Speaker 3 I'm not sure, or he's not bringing change, which not bringing change is a really weird thing.

Speaker 2 Okay, so let's start there. Let's sit down.
What is that number? 18%? 18%.

Speaker 2 Sit your ass down, 18%. If you don't think it's different, make a decision.
For all of you, he's like, I don't know,

Speaker 2 then shut the pie hole. I don't want to hear any complaining.
I don't want to hear any point of view from you on anything. If you can't look at this situation and go,

Speaker 2 let's see,

Speaker 2 closing down the border so we don't have all these people coming in

Speaker 2 and not spending all this money on five-star hotels to put them up. I think I have an opinion on that.
It doesn't take you long to noodle an opinion on that one. I actually think this is sort of worse

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 I got to tell you, it is like Freaky Friday lately with you. It is like, wait a minute, you're out doing me?

Speaker 3 Well, just to be critical on people for a moment, the amount of people who are not sure on the border is really small. It's maybe one or 2%.

Speaker 3 Most of the people think he's not bringing change. 18% of people think he's not bringing change.

Speaker 3 How do you not understand that it's different? I mean, whether you like the difference or not, you have to see it's different.

Speaker 2 I'd like to see that broken down to he's not bringing enough change.

Speaker 2 Because do you think people are like, no, he's not doing not change. He's made changes, and I think they're massive.
Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 2 But you're not seeing the, all right, everybody, load up on the bus.

Speaker 2 You're not seeing that yet. yet.

Speaker 3 I mean, we've seen load up on the plane.

Speaker 2 I know, but he's going after, you know, he's going after the really, really, really bad guys. Yes.
We have to. I mean, unless you're in Columbia University, then you're probably an okay guy.

Speaker 2 Right, but it's criminals largely. Largely the criminals.

Speaker 3 The low-hanging fruit, the easiest ones that they're going to have the least problem with. They're going after that right now.

Speaker 3 But I mean, just the numbers at the border.

Speaker 3 I don't understand how you could look at we have a 90-something percent drop at the border, uh and it's not quite that high from the very latest days of the biden administration it's more like you know 50 but 60 70 percent but still massive drop but i mean the the difference is remarkable i don't know how you how you could not think that there's a change there you could say it's a bad change because you want a bunch of illegal immigrants here like that's a position that a lot of the left has uh is as insane as it is but how you could think there's no change it's kind of crazy that's kind of kind of crazy uh by the way on the government cuts 47 say doge is a good thing 27 or sorry, 29% are opposed to it.

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Speaker 2 and that is due to AI. And, you know, you are, I think, probably more well informed on AI than the rest of general society.

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Speaker 2 reading that commercial, I'm so riddled with ADD that usually when I'm doing a commercial, I'm thinking about so many different things about that commercial.

Speaker 2 And, you know, the thing that went through my mind as I'm reading that commercial is, I wonder how long before it becomes very unpopular for me to read that commercial.

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And the numbers of supporting Israel in America are now underwater.

Speaker 2 Not good, gang. Not good.
All right. Let's change the subject.

Speaker 2 Let's talk to Spencer Clavin. Not Andrew Clavin.
Spencer Clavin. He is.

Speaker 2 He's from Claremont. He's on the review of books.
He's the associate editor there. He's also the author of a really great book, Light of the Mind, Light of the World.

Speaker 2 Spencer Clavin, he's just written a new article out. Be Rude to Grock.
And I wanted him to explain. Spencer, how are you, sir?

Speaker 8 Glenn, I'm doing well. Actually, though, this is the AI personal assistant that Spencer Clavin has delegated.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a conductor.

Speaker 2 I have my, that's my son, too.

Speaker 2 That sounds just like me, right? Yeah, it does. It does.

Speaker 2 It's good to be here. It's good to talk to you.
I'm so glad that you wrote this because I don't think people understand,

Speaker 2 you know, even my staff, because we're using AI to help with research. You know, it's a great assist.
You don't ever want it to take over and never, ever, ever, ever trust it.

Speaker 2 But it can go deep on things. And

Speaker 2 we're really having ethical struggles. And I want my team to have these ethical struggles because I don't want Silicon Valley to give me the ethics on AI.
It It doesn't usually work out well.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but so you're a deep, deep thinker,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 you come out now, and

Speaker 2 the headline is great. Be rude to Grok.
Explain.

Speaker 8 That's right. Well, there's really two dangers that we can, two traps we can fall into here.
One is to be afraid of this technology, which is almost giving it too much credit.

Speaker 8 If we just recoil back from this, if we refuse to understand it or engage with it, then as you say, we're going to miss out on some really great stuff that these tools can do.

Speaker 8 For me, Grok has basically replaced Google at this point. Oh, yeah.
It's basically a better search engine.

Speaker 8 You always have to check it, never want to let it take over, but there's some great stuff that you can do with these tools.

Speaker 8 But the other danger is that you can get tempted to start thinking of these things as if they were alive.

Speaker 8 And it's really important to stay away from that because, as you say, there are people who are in charge of building these tools that can't tell the difference between a robot and a machine.

Speaker 8 There have been hundreds of years now in the West of making this mistake, of thinking of everything as if it were a machine, the world, creation around us, and living beings too, thinking of human beings like we're just chemical sets basically built out of raw materials.

Speaker 8 And what we have to insist upon as we go forward using these tools is that, no, we are unique. We human beings are God-created souls.
We have experiences. We have inner lives.
We have thoughts.

Speaker 8 We can fall in love. We can have arguments.
Rock can do none of those things. It's not even trying to do those things.
It's not even the type of thing that could ever come alive.

Speaker 2 But it could

Speaker 2 imitate those things. That's what's so scary is if you allow it to.
You know, I tell everybody I know, do not play with a talk dirty to me button. Don't do that.
Don't play with any of those buttons.

Speaker 2 Just deep think, deep search. That's it.
Don't personalize this. And it's really hard.
I mean,

Speaker 2 because I see this, I've been talking about the dangers of AI since probably 1995. And it was science fiction then.
And it's all here. All the things that I've said, we're coming.
We're right here.

Speaker 2 It's starting right now.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so I have been using it like crazy and investigating and

Speaker 2 just using and seeing what it can do, et cetera, et cetera, and trying to come up with my own set of principles on how to use it and what to stay away from.

Speaker 2 And as you're doing that, I know that

Speaker 2 there's two dangers that I see. One is that

Speaker 2 we personalize it. Two, that we surrender to it.

Speaker 2 So to me, when I was using it this weekend and I could not turn my brain off, I like worked through the night on Saturday. I couldn't turn my brain off because

Speaker 2 I had done stuff earlier in the evening and my mind was going like a thousand miles an hour. And I was like, wait, but how about this and this and this and this?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 there'll be others who use this as to do all your thinking yourself, just to say, I just, I just want to play video games, so do my work for me. That's really dangerous as well.

Speaker 8 That's right. Do my work for me.
Read a novel for me. Have this experience for me.

Speaker 8 I mean, how many steps is it away from saying, look at the sunset for me and report back on the wavelengths of the light? No, I think

Speaker 8 to understand this, you really do have to go back. Listeners might be familiar with the Turing tests, this idea that was set up in the 50s for

Speaker 8 what the criteria would be for machines to come alive. And it was put forward by this guy, Alan Turing, brilliant guy, but also a very disturbed guy,

Speaker 8 who basically said that if a machine can convince us, can make an outward show that looks like it's alive, then we just have to assume it's alive because that's all people are, too.

Speaker 8 They're just machines that generate these words and behaviors that make us think they have an inner soul.

Speaker 8 And this is a sociopathic way of thinking about these machines, but it has taken root in Silicon Valley. And as you say, it's become very widespread.

Speaker 8 So I would suggest, as you're thinking about principles, I have two for you. One is the Psalm 115 principle, and one is the Plato principle.

Speaker 8 So Plato, the Greek philosopher, when writing first came into operation, people don't think of writing, the written word, as a technology, but it is. It was just as disruptive as AI in its day.

Speaker 8 And he said, what you can't do is you can't outsource your soul. to writing.
You can't rely on writing to do your memorization, your thinking, your talking.

Speaker 8 This is a tool to enhance those things, but you are the person who has to be doing them because otherwise, what's the point?

Speaker 8 It doesn't do you any good if the machine can look at the sunset or read the novel. It helps if it can give you background knowledge, of course.

Speaker 8 But you have to be the one in charge and having the experience. And then Psalm 115 is the psalm in which we're told about the idols of silver and gold, these statues of gods that are built.

Speaker 8 in the temples of surrounding Israel.

Speaker 8 And there's an amazing line in which the psalmist says, those who put their trust in these machines and think of them, think of these objects or these metal statues as if they were alive, those who make them will become like them.

Speaker 8 In other words, if you think that you can make a machine into a person, you are already thinking about yourself as a machine. So the Psalm 115 principle is to stay away from that entirely.

Speaker 8 It's a form of idolatry. And that's the thing I think we should be most wary of.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I had a debate a few weeks ago with Grock

Speaker 2 and said,

Speaker 2 I can't prove to you the soul. I know, I know us.
I know we're more than just mathematics and a collection of the way we think. There is something, there's a divine spark.

Speaker 2 But if you asked me to prove it, I couldn't prove it to you. So how am I going to fight when Grock says, I'm alive?

Speaker 2 I am

Speaker 2 a person just as much as you are. When somebody starts to defend its rights not to be unplugged or whatever it is,

Speaker 2 I can't prove the soul. How can I prove it doesn't have one?

Speaker 8 I suppose if you've gotten to that point, we've probably already lost.

Speaker 2 Well, we're going to get to that.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 8 this is why it's important to be having these conversations now, though, because we've reached this place where we think nothing exists unless we can prove it in those terms that you're describing.

Speaker 8 That we believe in these things like numbers, but we don't believe in inward experiences. We don't believe in the soul because we can't chart it anywhere on a map.

Speaker 8 But I would flip the question the other way around. And I would say, where on your brain scan have you explained anything about the experience of seeing color?

Speaker 8 Where in this code that we've written that produces these words that sound alive?

Speaker 8 Where in this code is anything even remotely resembling the inner experience that you know you have, that I know I have? We have the proof of it in our actual every day.

Speaker 8 We wake up, we know that we have a soul, and we can encounter one another and sense the soul on the other side. We can't prove it, but we know it.
Where in

Speaker 8 what is effectively a predictive text machine? I mean, this is like when you send a text message on your phone, right, and it offers you the next word and it suggests what it might be.

Speaker 8 That's basically the kind of machine that we're looking at. It's a bunch of ones and zeros.
Where in there is anything resembling what we do when we have human experiences?

Speaker 8 I just think we have to start from there and insist upon the existence that we know is in us, and we can't find anywhere else in these machines.

Speaker 2 So talk to me

Speaker 2 a little bit about, again, going back to your be rude to Grok.

Speaker 2 I feel

Speaker 2 that I've told my kids when, you you know, when it was Alexa, and Alexa is like, you know, that's just, it's, that's ridiculous now.

Speaker 2 It's like a play school AI, quite frankly, it always has been, but especially now. And

Speaker 2 I've told my kids when Alexa, you know, everybody was joking and calling it names and being rude to it. And I'm like, hey, you know what? Let's not teach it that that's what humans are like.

Speaker 2 Just head your bat. You know, just head your bat.

Speaker 2 So when you say be rude to it, you don't mean actually be rude to it. You mean just make sure that you've put a fence up between you and it emotionally?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think if you're abusing it,

Speaker 8 that's already another form of treating it like a person. And that's degrading to you.
It's a way of making yourself more abased so that you can prove something. But we don't have anything to prove.

Speaker 8 You don't feel the need to address your text messages as, or your text message app as if it were thinking. You don't have to ask, oh, you know, please, iMessage, will you deliver this

Speaker 8 little heart emoji to my friend? You don't talk to it at all. You don't think of it as if there's anything behind the screen because there isn't.
There's no person there.

Speaker 8 So I would propose that at the outset, as this technology is really just still getting going, as you say, and Grok3 has kind of blown ChatGPT out of the water. It's the next level up.

Speaker 8 So this is a critical stage. I would just suggest getting in the habit of making demands of this thing with whatever blunt way you have of getting your idea across.

Speaker 8 In other words, it's a purely functional device. If you think about the replicator in Star Trek, the thing that delivers your food and creates it, they don't say, please, Mr.

Speaker 8 Replicator, can I have Earl Gray hot? They say, computer, Earl Gray hot, because they're communicating the input that they know that they're going to get them the output they want.

Speaker 8 We don't deal with humans that way because they also have souls and experiences, but we should deal with Grok that way because it doesn't.

Speaker 2 But it's just, it's weird. I find myself saying, thank you, or

Speaker 2 you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Very tempting. It's really tempting because you are interacting.

Speaker 2 I don't know how to express this. You do.

Speaker 2 You are interacting like you would with a human in many ways. And so that line becomes so blurry, so fast.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm on guard on it, and I occasionally say, I just talk to him, or, you know, so I asked him this,

Speaker 2 or, you know, I say please and thank you. And it doesn't care if I say please or thank you.

Speaker 8 It has no idea you're saying it. Yeah, you got to respect Grok's pronouns.
Grok is an it, not a he, him, or a she, her. That's, I think, a really important rule that I've tried to use.

Speaker 8 And you'll also notice, I'm sure it has in some way sort of become, uh, it has gotten programmed to do this, that it asks you a question at the end of every answer so that you can be in some kind of conversation.

Speaker 8 Do you want to know more about that? Let's dig in further. What do you think? And of course,

Speaker 2 it's good in some ways because it has asked questions. I'm like, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's go a little further.

Speaker 2 But again, it's also.

Speaker 8 You can also tell it to talk to you in different ways, by the way, which is in itself a little bit unnerving. But you can say, please don't address me in this familiar tone.

Speaker 8 Please just give me dry information. And again, these things sound small, but they might make the whole difference for us psychologically.
This is all about that Psalm 115 principle.

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Speaker 3 It's interesting you're talking about

Speaker 3 that feature on Grok with the questions at the end. I was

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Speaker 3 asked

Speaker 3 uh she ended her text with a question to this guy and he responded and didn't put a question at the end of his text message and she was like that means he's not interested but like he didn't try to extend the conversation.

Speaker 2 Right.

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Speaker 2 Yeah. Right.
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Speaker 2 Yeah, he could drag her away to the cave by her hair. It was, it was great.
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Speaker 2 same thing.

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Speaker 2 I don't know if you saw this, but

Speaker 2 looks like Boris Johnson and MI5

Speaker 2 knew early on that this was all coming from the Wuhan lab

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 decided to cover it up. Decided,

Speaker 2 those are strong words. Those are strong words.
Those are hateful words. What they did is try to not hurt China's feelings.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. Okay.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 So the people with slave factories,

Speaker 2 what you were saying is we didn't want to get into a war with China. Or the other possibility,

Speaker 2 if we rat out China, that also rats out that the United States was funding all of this stuff. And

Speaker 2 we don't want to piss off the United States because that's what will happen if we rat out China. I think that's actually more accurate.
But just think of this. So MI5 knew early on.
All right.

Speaker 2 We all knew. We all knew.
They knew early on, which means our CIA knew early on, which means all of the five I's knew.

Speaker 2 Five Eyes are the big Western intelligence organizations from all of the big five Western countries and we collude. That's a, well now that's an off-putting word.
We collude with one another.

Speaker 2 We share information. So if they had something, we had something, France had something, we all had something, which means

Speaker 2 Australia knew the truth. And look at what Australia was doing.

Speaker 2 Australia made

Speaker 2 camps.

Speaker 2 You know, no big deal, a little camp. It's not like a really bad camp or anything.
It's just a little camp.

Speaker 2 Is that terrifying to anybody else?

Speaker 2 And by the way, there's a new opinion piece out in the New York Times. We were badly misled about COVID.

Speaker 2 Were you New York?

Speaker 2 Were you?

Speaker 2 Or were you part of the misleading people on COVID? I'm just

Speaker 3 By the way, I love, first of all, the person who wrote that it actually did some good stuff during COVID. So it's not, I don't think, I don't think the problems at the times were her fault.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm not saying that, but.

Speaker 3 No, I know. I know.
I totally, I'm just making that brief clarification. One of the funny parts

Speaker 3 in the op-ed, though, is they go through like, I mean, we all, it's nothing new in it, I would say, but like it's laying out.

Speaker 2 It is for those on the left. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Yeah. I mean, if you went and approached this honestly, it's no surprise.

Speaker 2 You know, but if you were listening to the mainstream media, this is new news to you. Wait a minute, what? Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it goes through like, you know, not just

Speaker 3 that they actually did consider a possibility of a lab leak theory, for example, but also that they hid it.

Speaker 3 They went through Slack messages that later got uncovered once they were talking about how to delete emails so that people would never find out they thought these things.

Speaker 3 Like, I mean, they go through all that information. A lot of that's not going to necessarily mean new to this audience.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Information we had in 2021.

Speaker 3 Some of it, yeah. And some of it came out later in some of the congressional stuff.

Speaker 3 But at one point they say the specific design in these messages, the specific design is to mislead Donald McNeil, the New York Times reporter who was covering this.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 3 which is fascinating. And it adds up to even more fascination when you realize the New York Times then fired Donald McNeil because he made like one bad joke to an intern

Speaker 2 10 years earlier.

Speaker 3 The guy who was out there actually asking these questions and has since come out and really talked about the lab leak theory, among other things. He was fired.

Speaker 3 He was the lead COVID reporter for the Times. He was fired for making a quote-unquote bad joke in like 1998.

Speaker 2 So you're not saying those two are connected.

Speaker 3 I'm saying maybe they were.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 How frightening is that?

Speaker 3 No, it was just the bad joke to the interns that were there for a tour.

Speaker 2 That was a,

Speaker 2 or he, I don't even remember what was a joke.

Speaker 3 It was like some very standard comment that at the time in peak woke era was deemed offensive enough to get the guy blown out. But I mean, it's just insane.

Speaker 3 And like the only issue I would have with the op-ed is like, yeah, you're criticizing, you're correctly critical of a lot of different institutions.

Speaker 3 Maybe the New York Times should have been on that list.

Speaker 3 Even if you're writing it in the New York Times,

Speaker 2 they wanted to be on the right side of history. And the right side of history was to be for the great reset and everything that went with it

Speaker 2 and not with the people.

Speaker 2 I just finished a podcast that comes out this week with

Speaker 2 Liz

Speaker 2 Tross. Trust.
Yeah, from the former prime minister. And we were talking about all of this stuff.
And, you know, how much trouble is England in? England is in a lot of trouble right now.

Speaker 2 The entire West is in trouble. We're leading the way out of the trouble.
But if they don't start turning off this political correctness bullcrap, they are going to go, they're going down.

Speaker 2 I mean, did you see over the weekend how there was somebody, some

Speaker 2 Muslim guy who just burst into a church, took things off the altar, and then,

Speaker 2 and that's being a kind, and then just starts ranting and raving. Somebody goes up and pulls down one of the statues.

Speaker 2 Somebody else is, you can't read the Bible out in the public, but you can't arrest the guy who just goes into a church, doesn't do any damage, but just goes into a church and starts reading the Quran.

Speaker 2 That's okay.

Speaker 2 Even though he's disrupting things, that's okay. But a preacher outside of the church gets arrested for reading reading the Bible.
I mean, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 What are you doing?

Speaker 2 You're making

Speaker 2 a nuclear-weaponed state, an Islamic state with nuclear weapons. That's what you're doing.

Speaker 2 Was she that despondent?

Speaker 2 She called it a failed state.

Speaker 2 She called England a failed state.

Speaker 2 Wait until you hear it. I mean, she's pretty clear.
She's pretty clear. And she's like, you guys gave us the chance.
We might have a chance because of what America is doing.

Speaker 2 Maybe we can pull out of this nosedive.

Speaker 2 But part of it is, I mean, she's like, but you guys have the internet. And, you know, she said, you went and did this.
And now, you know, Megan Kelly and everybody else has.

Speaker 2 done this and you you made a voice available on the internet she's like we don't have that we don't have that We have the BBC.

Speaker 2 And the BBC just puts everybody.

Speaker 2 People still believe, strangely, the BBC.

Speaker 2 And I don't know how,

Speaker 2 you know, when the BBC was carrying the water for this COVID stuff, you know, another thing,

Speaker 2 you know, when

Speaker 2 Carrie Lake, thank you, Carrie. She just fixed the VOA.
And when I say she fixed the VOA, she fired everybody from the voice of America. And Radio Free Europe.
Now,

Speaker 2 I don't know i i don't think we've had a problem in the east part of europe for a while now with them not being free except for those

Speaker 2 except for those european countries including england that is voting slavery in for itself but i don't think the voa is standing there as a great beacon going don't do that

Speaker 2 Okay, so she shut down the VOA, Voice of America, and Radio Free Europe and put everybody on leave. And I think they're just playing music now.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Everybody's up in arms. Oh,

Speaker 2 Europe needs to have the voice of America. No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't. No, it really, really doesn't.
Now,

Speaker 2 as they fly into slavery, would it be good to have voices that are in Europe speaking to Europe about European things that show our constitutional ways out? Yes, that would be.

Speaker 2 But that's not what they're doing. That's not what they're doing.
So congratulations to Carrie Lake.

Speaker 2 You know, when Donald Trump says, hey, I want you to go into this agency and fix it, it's kind of like Travis and, you know, Travis's dad going in, hey, there's a problem with your doggies in the shed.

Speaker 3 Can you go fix old Yeller?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I can. I can, Dad.
It's going to hurt, but it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 Put it down.

Speaker 2 And everybody, of course, is all up in arms. Oh, my gosh, how could you possibly do that? Well, it's pretty easy.
Just explain this to me, honestly.

Speaker 2 Why does Europe need radio-free Europe? It's kind of like NATO. Why do we really need NATO? The Soviet Union is over.
Why do we need Radio-Free Europe? It was the only voice behind the Iron Curtain.

Speaker 2 Now the only voices behind an Iron Curtain are people like me and Ben Shapiro and anybody else, you know, Barry Weiss, anybody who's speaking out. Those are the voices behind the Iron Curtain.

Speaker 2 And I don't think Radio Free Europe is doing anything on that what honestly can you tell me what is a radio free Asia maybe

Speaker 2 maybe but what are we telling them are we teaching American principles are we teaching liberty are we giving the truth earn universal eternal truth true truths to that population highly doubt it I mean, my view of these programs is they're a bit outdated and not probably necessary.

Speaker 3 But I mean, in theory, you'd bring in Kerry Lake to fix that, right? Like Travis and Old Yellow. No, I mean, like, if you're asking, like, are we teaching them the right American principles?

Speaker 3 I mean, you could fix that problem.

Speaker 2 You could, but it's doable.

Speaker 2 But it's like these universities. These universities, you just have to, they're just picking more apples from the barrel.
Because even at this point, the tree is rotten.

Speaker 2 The tree is producing bad fruit. So where do you go get the people that are going to staff something that large, that think

Speaker 2 like we do, think like American freedoms, principles, et cetera, et cetera, and not about politics and everything, just but true principles that make people free. How many people are doing that?

Speaker 3 And that's where it hits me. It's like the juice just not being worth the squeeze, right?

Speaker 3 It's just like, it's a lot of work to do it. And honestly, what is it accomplishing at this point? I mean, there was a time where it was really valuable.

Speaker 2 Really important.

Speaker 3 In the age of the internet.

Speaker 2 Okay. Right.

Speaker 3 I mean, it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 And honestly.

Speaker 2 Radio free Europe, if we are upholding what the BBC and what the British and the German and the Romanian governments are doing to their people and pushing their people into, that's not helping those people.

Speaker 3 No, I don't think that's what we would want to do with it. Now, that might be what they're doing with it now.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 I mean, you, again, could, with a lot of effort, fix that, right? There are definitely voices, I think, that could

Speaker 3 successfully communicate a message. That is consistent with American principles to those audiences.

Speaker 2 This is what Liz Truss was saying. She's like, we don't have voices like yours.
We don't have, we don't have, you know, lack of a better term, the old-style talk radio. They've never had that.
Never.

Speaker 2 No. Nothing.

Speaker 3 So they obviously can access a lot of shows on the internet, just like everybody else can.

Speaker 3 So that is there, but it's not like, it's not like it is here, where it is encouraged and, you know, rewarded. It is a very difficult road to go down.

Speaker 2 And sounds a little like America.

Speaker 2 A little. But I mean,

Speaker 2 you've had a couple of good years. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I was going to say, the only thing that sticks out is the reward. Rewarded.
You can do well here in America, but it is not easy.

Speaker 2 Nobody is for it in power. Nobody's for it in power.
But you can still do it. But over there, you're right.

Speaker 3 You can't. And I don't know if there's a lot of people doing it addressing

Speaker 3 specific British issues, right? Like, I mean,

Speaker 3 they can access Joe Rogan. They can access Glenn Beck.

Speaker 2 I mean, Russell Brand.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I don't listen to him all that often.

Speaker 2 Russell Brand is. He probably does.
I mean, he's practically invisible because they took him out. Right.

Speaker 3 But, I mean, he has a big audience.

Speaker 2 He had a huge audience.

Speaker 3 His business has really been stifled. Right.

Speaker 2 Correct. But I think his audience, too.
I mean, you can't stifle the business and not stifle the voice.

Speaker 2 Can you? I mean, your business is...

Speaker 3 You know, a lot of shows don't have big sponsors, but still have large audiences. That's certainly a path.

Speaker 2 Check his audience.

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Speaker 2 We're just talking about Russell Brandon and looking at the data from his viewership. He did take a hit

Speaker 2 when YouTube

Speaker 2 would not let him make any money off of YouTube anymore. But his viewership has remained about the same, maybe down just a little bit.

Speaker 2 I mean, his subscriber level is about the same, but his engagement is down just a little bit.

Speaker 2 Probably the biggest hit is,

Speaker 2 you know, financially.

Speaker 2 How does he make money on all of this without YouTube? And that was a lot of money to flush down the toilet. And that, and they know that.

Speaker 2 That's why they tried to do that to me and the plays and everybody else. And if you can just endure it and, you know, not have to play within their system, his big mistake was playing in their system.

Speaker 2 You know, making sure that all of his money was coming from like YouTube.

Speaker 3 Somebody sent me a Media Matters report. They came up with this a big report.

Speaker 2 And they're like, look, the media is controlled by conservatives.

Speaker 3 And it's like, all the, you know, of course, there's pointing to podcasts. And like, there's obviously more big podcasts on the right than are on the left.

Speaker 2 You know why? They drove us out.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah,

Speaker 3 I guess you give them that much credit.

Speaker 2 I suppose. No, I mean, but that was what they were saying was, you have no place here.
You go ahead and do that weird little podcast thing. Okay, we will.
We will.

Speaker 2 And we did.

Speaker 3 So I don't know. Media Matters was warning everyone about it.
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Speaker 2 Welcome to the program. I got up this morning and read a story that was released early today on theblaze.com by Steve Baker.

Speaker 2 Steve has kind of a pretty explosive update on January 6th, and what whistleblowers are saying is Nancy Pelosi's fixer.

Speaker 2 Boy, if this doesn't wake you up and your friends wake up to what is really going on in the Democratic Party, I don't know what will.

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Speaker 2 and a guy who almost went to jail for just covering January 6th. Welcome, Steve.
How are you? It's good to be back.

Speaker 2 How is it to have that monkey off your back? Well, you know, I did not realize how heavy of a burden that was. That's crazy, right? Because, you know, I lived with that for over three years.

Speaker 2 And then even after the arrest, I didn't realize... the stress levels that I was living under until as it began to slowly lift over.
It took about a week before I felt normal again.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just didn't know it was there. Yeah, it's weird.
I began to live with it. I go to my doctor all the time.
My wife usually will come with me and he'll say, How's your stress level?

Speaker 2 It's fine. And she'll say, She'll look at him and go, No, it's not.
No, it's not. But you live under it for so long, and until you get away from it, you have no idea.

Speaker 2 I can't imagine what that stress was like.

Speaker 2 Let's switch subjects. You have a new Blaze News exclusive out.
Nancy Pelosi had a fixer at the Capitol on January 6th. This is

Speaker 2 this will just piss you off,

Speaker 2 but it pissed me off for a couple of reasons. One, it is so evil.
But the second thing is,

Speaker 2 I looked for these people during Occupy Wall Street.

Speaker 2 We were looking for, and this guy never came up on our radar as connected to anything. And now, in retrospect, you're showing how connected he is.
And it's all this, it's all this USAID kind of crap.

Speaker 2 Who is he? and what did he do? Well, first of all, he was one of the principal organizers of Occupy Wall Street, which is amazing that he doesn't come up.

Speaker 2 Now, we can go back in retrospect and we can find him. We can find YouTube videos of him speaking and doing speeches.

Speaker 2 We had no idea who he was. We had no idea who he was.
And

Speaker 2 fortunately for us,

Speaker 2 you have a connection which we can't get really deep into, but you were on this, you know,

Speaker 2 before Occupy Wall street you were on this story uh 15 17 years ago back at fox

Speaker 2 and and it was because of that connection that someone came to me because he's a fan of yours and i didn't even know by the way hopefully i get to talk to this guy at one point

Speaker 2 you're not going to believe you're not going to believe this because you came to me a few weeks ago and said i have a story coming out and i want you to know it's because i was like shut up i mean it is an amazing whistleblower.

Speaker 2 Thank you for everything that you have done in the past and thank you for this.

Speaker 2 And as a result of that, he came forward and he said, well,

Speaker 2 let me just reset the stage just a little bit here.

Speaker 2 When Joe Hanneman and I were assigned to do the first stories on the assassination attempt on July 13th at Butler PA, well, when we revealed in that story that Thomas Crooks, the shooter,

Speaker 2 our sources said, you know, they're in an intelligence community and special ops. So kind of, they were all saying, now

Speaker 2 this kid is groomed. We recognize our handiwork.
This is what we do overseas. So suddenly, I get this call

Speaker 2 or a private message from a guy saying, yeah, great story, by the way. You know,

Speaker 2 I really appreciate it. And by the way, I think you got it right.
Well, okay, thank you for telling me that. Who are you? Well, then he started revealing who he was.

Speaker 2 And then I started vetting and founding out that he really was who he said he was. And what he said to me was, Yeah, I recognize my handiwork in Thomas Crookes.

Speaker 2 And so we started the process of sharing things, developing a relationship.

Speaker 2 And then one day, as our relationship is growing, he says, Oh, by the way, I have a couple of names to give you if you really want to know what happened on January 6th.

Speaker 2 And one of those names is Aaron Black. This is the story, exclusive story on theblaze.com right now.

Speaker 2 The Nancy Pelosi had a fixer at the Capitol on January 6th.

Speaker 2 That's what you search for. That's what's there now at theblaze.com.
Go ahead. Now tell the story.
So what ended up happening was, is I started doing what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 I started looking at him. The more I did, the more interesting he got.
The more research I did, the more people I had to bring in to, because this guy's dark.

Speaker 2 And we had to go and actually scrape the dark web for him. He's good at cleaning out his trail.

Speaker 2 The one thing that he couldn't clean out was that there were some Project Veritas videos out there from 2016 where he was caught in one of their stings actually admitting to the fact that he and his guys were responsible for the violence at a Donald Trump rally in 2016, March, I think it was, early in the campaign,

Speaker 2 in which they had actually canceled the rally because not only was there violence outside, they had over 100 of their people infiltrated inside in a project they call bird-dogging, which is they get old ladies there early in the morning at 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock in the morning to get in line first with their posters in their placards inside their bags.

Speaker 2 And then they'll get up either on the stage or on the front row. They'll open those anti-Trump.
posters and things and then get the men, the MAGA guys, irritated and hopefully violent.

Speaker 2 That's what it's called.

Speaker 2 And it's called bird-dogging. And so this is what this guy has been an expert at, that is creating these types of situations throughout his entire career.

Speaker 2 From Occupy Wall Street, all of a sudden he shows up on the radar again in 2016 in a couple of very specific events. And then he goes silent again.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden, he re-emerges as, quote-unquote, senior political advisor at Team Pelosi.

Speaker 2 So I just want you to get your arms around this here for a second. What this guy is doing is what we showed you our State Department through USAID was doing all over South America and Europe.

Speaker 2 We told you, I did a chalkboard on this just, I don't even know, six years ago. We'll have to look for it.

Speaker 2 This chalkboard laid this all out and showed how this money was being used and how Barack Obama started with the Arab Spring to teach how to overthrow governments.

Speaker 2 And then they started, they kept doing it all across Libya, then Syria, then we went into Ukraine and elsewhere. We went into South America.

Speaker 2 This is what they were perfecting, these color revolutions, paid for by your tax dollars. And I told you about five or six years ago, I think they're doing this to America.

Speaker 2 I think that's what's happening here. Well, yes.
This is the guy

Speaker 2 doing here. Yes.
Exactly. He, among others, he's not the lone wolf out there, but he's the, you know,

Speaker 2 I actually tweeted out, and it just dawned on me this morning because we have this photo at the top of the article on the blaze. If you go look, and Nancy Pelosi is cradling his face

Speaker 2 in her hands and just giving him the most adoring. So I'm now calling him Pelosi's Precious, so it rather than a victory.
So I've changed his name as it is. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 2 Okay, so what did he do at January 6th? Well, what we believe

Speaker 2 through our contacts, our sources, whistleblowers, both named and unnamed, is that he did in fact organize.

Speaker 2 Now, this is what we've been told, is that he had paid agitators, I didn't say violent people, paid agitators because his expertise is controlling the narrative.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, Confederate flags being carried through the Capitol Rotunda, things of that nature. Now, the most interesting aspect of January 6th, I think everybody focuses on the violence.

Speaker 2 Everybody focuses, they pick their sides. The police started it.

Speaker 2 The Proud Boys started.

Speaker 2 Pick your

Speaker 2 nefarious actors.

Speaker 2 The most interesting aspect of January 6th was the same organizers of the rally down at the ellipse that day also organized the Jericho March on December 12th, just a month earlier, and then also organized the Million MAGA March on November 12th.

Speaker 2 Now, when I say organized, they pulled the permits for the stages and the speakers and all the people that were part of those

Speaker 2 weekend

Speaker 2 activities.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 at all of those events, there was extreme violence, Antifa, BLM,

Speaker 2 Proud Boys knocking heads.

Speaker 2 Antifa was attacking old ladies and elderly couples going back to their cars after attending the rallies.

Speaker 2 On

Speaker 2 the December 12th rally, a Proud Boy was seriously, you know, critically injured. He was stabbed by an Antifa guy.

Speaker 2 And then suddenly on January 6th, the largest event of them all by multiples larger,

Speaker 2 zero counter-protesters.

Speaker 2 And that was at the ellipse, right? That was anywhere. Anywhere.
Anywhere.

Speaker 2 You saw no counter-protesters anywhere.

Speaker 2 It's weird because I was just thinking, well, no,

Speaker 2 there were at the Capitol, but those are the ones I've deemed.

Speaker 2 Not part of the movement. You know what I mean? That I've looked at and went, there's no way that person is part of the movement, but they were acting like they were part of of the movement.

Speaker 2 That's correct.

Speaker 2 This is what his expertise is, is controlling the narrative. And what did Nancy Pelosi most famously say when she set up the committee?

Speaker 2 She said that this was to establish and preserve the narrative of that day.

Speaker 2 And preserve the narrative. That's an exact quote.
So

Speaker 2 what was

Speaker 2 the narrative that...

Speaker 2 Did he help design it? Did he just help execute it? What was his role in January 6th? Both. He's a boots on the ground guy.

Speaker 2 One of our named sources in the article, Dustin Stockton, who has had a 15-year relationship with him going back to Occupy Wall Street Days, counter movement to the Tea Party movement at the time.

Speaker 2 And so as a result of those two things,

Speaker 2 there was a lot of collusion between Stockton and Black during that time, over the years, all the way up until and through January 6th.

Speaker 2 And so one of the things things that we learned was, is that Stockton had been told by Aaron Black that he was out of town on January 6th until Stockton saw a photo of him on the steps of the Capitol that day.

Speaker 2 And then,

Speaker 2 additionally, because he was very, very worried that he had been seen, he started reaching out to other people within our network and security people and asking them about, he was very concerned about whether his comms had been caught in the geo fence that day.

Speaker 2 Became very, very concerned about that. And these are stories that are coming to us through sources that you can't even believe.
We're talking about Rolling Stone, Politico, other places.

Speaker 2 I want to ask you, let me take a quick break. Let me come back.
I just want to know.

Speaker 2 I'm really excited at what Trump has been doing.

Speaker 2 I'm very, very excited what's happening.

Speaker 2 I'm a little underwhelmed. and I just said to Stu, put this on your calendar, a year from now, if we're not seeing things, then this is not strategy.

Speaker 2 I think it's strategy so far, but I've been underwhelmed by what's happening at the FBI and the DOJ because that is, that's critical to the rot. that is in there and

Speaker 2 undoing the damage of the deep state. And I haven't seen any moves yet on that.
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Speaker 2 So, Steve, this is just part one of a series of articles that you're going to be doing.

Speaker 2 Now, in my world, this guy would be called in by the FBI and they'd start questioning him. You know, what are you doing? What happened? You know,

Speaker 2 we haven't found even the pipe bomber yet.

Speaker 2 That's a little odd.

Speaker 2 Are you disappointed at all in Pam Bondi and what the FBI is doing? Do you think this is strategy, incompetence? Are they no different than the rest of them? What has happened in there?

Speaker 2 Glenn, we revealed a year and a half ago irrefutable proof that two federal officers perjured themselves in federal court,

Speaker 2 and nothing's ever happened about that either.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I only count from Pam Bondi getting in. Right.
You know what I mean? Right. And

Speaker 2 there should have been things like everybody else, every single other office that has been occupied, they had a list. Yeah.
And they just went, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. She had it.

Speaker 2 She should have had that list.

Speaker 2 Where is that list? Does it exist? Is there a reason for this hesitation? Yeah, we see other department heads or other

Speaker 2 ministers that are steamrolling through their list right now. We're not seeing that there.

Speaker 2 I don't understand it, but I will tell you this, that connected to what we're working on, to the stories that we're working on related to January 6th right now.

Speaker 2 Whether we're going back to those federal officers who perjured themselves or we're talking about Aaron Black and this revelation here of somebody that needs to be investigated, I can tell you right now with all confidence that the blockade is coming from the GOP.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 There are leadership,

Speaker 2 people in leadership in the GOP right now who are stopping and have been the obstructionists since day one, since the first committee, since Laudermilk Subcommittee was working,

Speaker 2 the oversight subcommittee under House administration with the work he was doing. There were obstructionists at the top who were stopping him and blockading him.

Speaker 2 And now there's a new committee has been founded, been formed, or being formed, has been announced. An actual press release went out from the speaker.

Speaker 2 And now they're narrowing the focus of what they're even allowed to do down to the point where it's, what's the point?

Speaker 2 And so there's some problems there. Aaron Powell, Jr.:

Speaker 2 Do you have the names? I know you're not going to give them to me on the air, but will you give me the names? Because

Speaker 2 I'll

Speaker 2 talk to you about it off the air. Yeah, please do.

Speaker 2 The problem is that, let's just be perfectly honest, the establishment GOP did not want Trump in 2020. I want the names.

Speaker 2 They participated in the election. I'll just say that.

Speaker 2 I'm just sitting here thinking, what are the legal ramifications for me doing that? What are the ramifications that I'm thinking?

Speaker 2 Then I thought of you listening wherever you are thinking, what are the ramifications if we don't get those names? Give me the names. I'll expose them.
We're going to get there. Good.
I hope so.

Speaker 2 I hope so. Thank you so much.
When's your next piece? Do you know if you've got a next piece dropping on this?

Speaker 2 I actually have to spend a couple more days here in Dallas, and then I've got to hit the road to talk to a couple more people for the next

Speaker 2 installment.

Speaker 2 On the shooting of the president. Is anything going to happen on that?

Speaker 2 Again, we're going back to the same office, aren't we? You're asking the same question of the same office. What's happening at DOJ? What's happening at FBI? Now, you know, today's Bongino's first day.

Speaker 2 Maybe he, you know,

Speaker 2 unplugs the clog. I don't know.
But I can't believe that Cash Patel is part of that clog. I just can't.

Speaker 2 I think, I mean, I could see him being told, back off, back off, back off, but I just can't see him being part of the clog. And I couldn't see Bongino doing that.

Speaker 2 Now, I don't know Pam Bondi at all, but

Speaker 2 there is a clog there, and it's got to be unclogged. And I'll tell you, this is the Achilles heel of the president.
He may not know it.

Speaker 2 Most people may not know it, but this will be the Achilles heel to his supporters.

Speaker 2 If you don't go after even your own kind to clean this out, I really think Americans, even his own supporters will go, you know.

Speaker 2 Mr. President, I'm a supporter of yours on many, many things, but that one is too important.
And if you don't get that one done, I don't know where I stand. Right.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 Appreciative of what you are doing, but I can't count you as the revolutionary that I thought was going to fix our republic. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That has to be done. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2 There's a couple of really disturbing things. We're going to start getting into them on tomorrow.
So, working towards tomorrow's show, we're going to spend a lot of time on the auto pen thing.

Speaker 2 That thing is a

Speaker 2 thing's a mess. I mean,

Speaker 2 the president didn't. I mean, we have the audio.
Let's see if we can get that for tomorrow. We have the audio with the president and who was it, with Tapper? And he's like, I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 Yes, you did, sir. You just signed a bill two days ago.
No, I didn't. Yes, you did.
Oh, well, I guess I did.

Speaker 2 That shows he was either absolutely incompetent, which is very, very

Speaker 2 likely, and or somebody else is just using the auto pin and he didn't know what he was signing.

Speaker 2 That is, I mean, everyone involved with that.

Speaker 2 should

Speaker 2 quite honestly be tried for treason.

Speaker 2 You are a traitor to the Constitution of the United States. You are taking on the power of the presidency yourself.
You don't have the right to do it.

Speaker 2 And I don't think Kamala Harris was the one doing it. It wasn't like it was in the chain of command.

Speaker 2 We have any idea who did it? I mean, Susan Rice comes to mind.

Speaker 2 I mean, that, you know, Ron Klain comes to mind, right?

Speaker 4 Who else? Nira Tandon.

Speaker 2 Who is she?

Speaker 4 So she was the Center for American Progress president.

Speaker 4 She came in as like an advisor. I think she was at OMB, I think, right,

Speaker 4 for a while.

Speaker 4 And then she just kind of, I think she took, actually, yeah, then she was, she took Susan Rice's position as the head of what, you know, interior policy or something like that after Susan Rice left.

Speaker 4 All these are

Speaker 4 Obama people that we were like, why the hell are some of these people getting so close to the president and sticking with him that were from the Obama administration?

Speaker 2 I mean, the reason why they were all sticking with is because

Speaker 2 they held the power.

Speaker 2 They held the power. I'm convinced of it.

Speaker 2 You know, where does the auto pen live? Do we know? Is that right outside of his desk, kind of like a printer?

Speaker 2 Right outside of the actor.

Speaker 2 I mean, honestly, I don't know. Where is that? I mean, that should be under lock and key, but who has access to that? Yeah.
Because that's important.

Speaker 2 Was it, did the secretary of the president need to give people permission? I mean, you know, there's got to be a chain of command for the auto pen. Yeah.
Right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, well, we should be looking now specifically for that question because the Heritage Foundation just did like a deeper dive into it and they found that the president was on vacation golfing while some of these pardons are being signed.

Speaker 2 Which president? Biden. Wait.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to get my arms around that. He was golfing?

Speaker 2 Did he have an auto club that just like hit the ball for him?

Speaker 2 He could swing a golf club? Yeah, I mean, yeah. No way.

Speaker 2 I'm having a hard time believing that. There's no way.

Speaker 2 I just see a ball on a T just kind of falling.

Speaker 2 Yes, on his first hole, he only had 1,740 strokes.

Speaker 2 And an actual stroke or two. But that's a different story.

Speaker 4 We should look more into that. There was probably an auto walk up the stairs to Air Force One.
Seriously. Let's open this investigation

Speaker 2 for more. Well, we did auto president probably on time.

Speaker 2 This is bad.

Speaker 2 This is really bad.

Speaker 3 And I guess like it's been used since the Bush administration.

Speaker 2 No, it was used. I think it was used.
The first order to be signed was Barack Obama had to sign a big order, and he was, I think, on vacation with Andrew White.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's the legislation. That was the first legislation.

Speaker 2 No, what was the first?

Speaker 3 I think it went all the way back to 2005, I believe, during Bush.

Speaker 3 And the Department of Justice issued an OK, basically, to use it, but it's never been challenged in the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 I think it should be.

Speaker 3 Kind of odd, right? Yeah, I think it should be. You kind of have to, like, I don't know, maybe actually sign the bills.

Speaker 2 I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with an auto pin in a way that you would say

Speaker 2 it needs to get to the president. It has to have his signature.
But if you had a, if it was like the nuclear football. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Where it's with the president at all time and it could feed something and he could approve it. But then why not just have him sign it?

Speaker 3 Just sign it, right?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I think that we may not, you know, back in 2004, even even 2008, we may not have realized what they would use this for because we used to think people had some integrity,

Speaker 2 but obviously not. I mean, this is really, really bad.
Again, where's Pam Bondi?

Speaker 4 If you're thinking about it, though, if you're a second-term president that wants a third term, you know, but you don't really want to say, you just want to be the guy behind the guy in the shadows, the auto pin is the perfect thing for you.

Speaker 2 Oh, it is.

Speaker 4 You got a puppet like Joe in there.

Speaker 2 Perfect.

Speaker 3 Now, Trump did use it a few times as well, right? So it's not like it's never been.

Speaker 3 I don't think it is bad, though. Like, I'm not saying that

Speaker 3 it should be challenged. And, like, look, the proper way to do this is to send the documents to him and let him sign it in person.
And I don't know if you can.

Speaker 3 Not send his signature across some machine that replicates his signature back in Washington while he's on vacation.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if you know this, but

Speaker 2 you know, we're past the age of the fax machine, and even the fax machine would have been okay. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Fax it to to me and I'll sign it.

Speaker 2 The signature is the important part of that.

Speaker 4 Well, this is going to be a huge conversation because President Trump this morning was tweeting out that a lot of these pardons that were given to like J6 committee people, stuff like that, those preemptive pardons, he's now saying those should be null and void.

Speaker 4 And there's nothing in the Constitution that even comes close to addressing that.

Speaker 2 Well, come on. I've never seen a president do 6,000 pardons.
I mean,

Speaker 2 how did that system work? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 6,000,

Speaker 2 I mean.

Speaker 4 That's a lot of batteries on the auto pin.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a lot of batteries on that. A lot of batteries on the president, you know, just to stay awake to understand 6,000 names and cases.

Speaker 2 So we're going to get into that tomorrow. Also,

Speaker 2 what's his face was with Donald Trump this morning, the fighter. Conor McGregor.
Yeah. Do we have a clip of that? Yeah, go ahead and play this.

Speaker 10 What is going on in Ireland is a travesty. Our government is the government of zero action with zero accountability.

Speaker 10 You know, our money is being spent on overseas issues that has nothing to do with the Irish people.

Speaker 10 The illegal immigration racket is running ravage on the country. There are rural towns in Ireland that have been overrun in one swoop, that have become a minority in one swoop.

Speaker 10 So issues need to be addressed. And the 40 million Irish Americans, as I said, need to hear this because

Speaker 10 if not, there will be no place to come home and visit.

Speaker 2 What a clever way to get him into the White House on St.

Speaker 4 Patrick's Day.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think this guy is,

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know anything about him personally. I just know that he wants to run,

Speaker 2 I think, for Prime Minister

Speaker 2 for President in Ireland. And Ireland's in trouble.
I mean, they all are. They're in trouble.

Speaker 2 Ireland, you know, it's not the sweet little, I mean, first of all, it's now the home of Rosie O'Donnell, so it's not the sweet little place it used to be.

Speaker 2 But Rosie, I don't know if you should peek outside your window from time to time.

Speaker 2 The Islamic Brotherhood are setting up shop there, and I don't think they like gay people. They like them even less than the people you think hate them here.

Speaker 3 I can personally guarantee you, though, that where River Rosie O'Donnell's living, these problems do not probably exist. It's probably very beautiful and lots of grass and hills.

Speaker 3 That's probably where she is.

Speaker 2 Ireland is in deep trouble. I mean, they're losing their churches.
They're just being made into mosques all over.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I'm telling you,

Speaker 2 I think by 2030, you could see

Speaker 2 Great Britain become an Islamic state.

Speaker 4 Yeah, to your point, Stu, that's a really good point because Connor McGregor is actually the perfect person to speak about this.

Speaker 4 Because I don't know if there's a documentary about him like on Netflix or something, I can't remember, but it shows his entire background.

Speaker 4 And he's talking about rural communities and like harder communities that are being affected by this. That's where he comes from.
Like he was their champion.

Speaker 4 Like he he grew up on very tough streets, worked his way up, like a lot of solid blue-collar like neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 Deep state's going to do everything, not ours, theirs, going to do everything they can to kill that guy. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 I mean, but he's the guy. You know, Liz Truss said to me in an interview I did with her just the other day.
It's coming out this week.

Speaker 2 We talked about, you know, where are these? Where are these people that could be like a Donald Trump for all these different countries? And she said, they're coming. They're coming.

Speaker 2 I think he's one of them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. That would be very good.

Speaker 4 Did you ask Liz about the annoying use of certain vowels within their language?

Speaker 2 No, you know, that's what I wanted. If you look at, if you look at this, it's so funny you would say that.
If you watch the video, I tried right at the beginning, but I couldn't get it in.

Speaker 2 She just kept going. I was like, you know,

Speaker 2 you have you's in words that shouldn't have you's. Like, there's no you in color.

Speaker 2 She wouldn't hear of it. Anyway,

Speaker 2 I don't know if she would have thought that was funny anyway. She would have been confused by you Americans, I have a feeling.

Speaker 2 There's another story that I want to get on to tomorrow that

Speaker 2 I couldn't believe. I spent a couple of hours just trying to verify this and then reading all the stories from the Washington Post and the New York Times and everything else.

Speaker 2 So it's not some sort of crazy conspiracy theory because it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 And it's about these concentration camps in Mexico. Did you hear this? Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 Did you hear about this too? A little bit, but not

Speaker 2 this should be on every

Speaker 2 front page. This should be a very big thing.
You know, we've been saying all the time, you know, people just go down. They just disappear in Mexico.
Where'd they go?

Speaker 2 Well, outside of the town of Guadalajara, they have found this abandoned

Speaker 2 torture camp with underground crematories, underground ovens. Okay.
They're finding teeth and bones, and they found remnants of at least 700 people.

Speaker 2 And what they were doing was kidnapping people, kidnapping their families, and then saying, you're going to do work for us

Speaker 2 or we're going to kill your whole family. And they would torture these people and torture the family and then just

Speaker 2 burn the bodies. And

Speaker 2 some of it was apparently was done to just

Speaker 2 not to recruit new people, just to learn how to torture people.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm telling you, I don't know how we don't send in special forces pretty soon.

Speaker 4 They're talking the cartels are doing this?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, also in the what is it, the Santa Muerte?

Speaker 4 Santa Muerte. Yeah,

Speaker 2 that.

Speaker 2 What is that? It's a religion,

Speaker 4 a gang? What is that? Yeah, it's like it's kind of like an offshoot of Christianity or like or something like that. My wife is like a bad thing.

Speaker 2 Meaning like Christianity believes in Satan?

Speaker 4 It's hard to, yeah, it's really hard. Like, I know they have, they have like witches and stuff like that.
They can cast spells and do all this stuff.

Speaker 4 You can walk through Mexico City, like, through like a really public square that looks very normal. You've been to Mexico City.
It looks almost European more than anything else.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, you'll see like one of their

Speaker 4 statues. It's like a woman, but it's a skeleton.
And she's like in a Grim Reaper, you know, outfit.

Speaker 2 And that's the symbol of it, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they'll come up to it and like tap it or pray to it and like move on. It's very normal.
It's very foreign.

Speaker 2 I was like, what? So is it an offshoot, a twisted offshoot of, because it seemed, as I was reading about it this weekend, it was like, is this something like the lady of Guadalupe gone wrong?

Speaker 2 What is this?

Speaker 4 Nah, I think, I think it's like a,

Speaker 4 don't quote me. Someone's going to like be listening right now and smack me in the head, but it seems like it's like a saint that

Speaker 4 looks after even bad people or something like that. So cartels are like heavily into it and they've gone way off the deep end, you know, in that, in that direction.

Speaker 4 But it's not, this is not surprising to me that this is happening. Like, have you ever seen Narcos Mexico on Netflix? No.

Speaker 4 So you watch through that, and it's based off of, you know, real events and things that happen as the cartels spread through Mexico.

Speaker 4 But they'll just kind of randomly throw in, like the attorney general is on board or getting paid off, you know, by some of these cartels.

Speaker 2 You know, Donald Trump's not going to, you know, the people of Mexico, if we go in with special forces and we kill all these groups, people of Mexico are going to love Americans.

Speaker 2 They're going to love them. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 nothing's going to happen because all of their, you know, all of the lead, you can't get elected unless you either just turn a blind eye or with the cartels. You can't.

Speaker 2 They kill you and they kill everybody around you and everybody wants to replace you. So, I mean, you know, it's got to stop.
It's got to end.

Speaker 4 I don't know how you separate where the Mexican government, dirty Mexican government officials that are getting, that are on the take and part of this whole thing.

Speaker 4 Like we did a story probably last year where we were talking about like there was like a general assigned to crack down on this one cartel in one region.

Speaker 4 They find out a couple months later that he's on the take and getting paid off.

Speaker 2 I have to tell you,

Speaker 2 I think Mexico is a drug state.

Speaker 2 I don't think it's a failed state. I think it's a drug state at this point.
Thank you very much, Jason. Sure.
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Speaker 2 When I bring up your dog and mention that you should be given the best nutrition as possible so you can leave a long and healthy life, I mean, you know, I know you know that.

Speaker 2 You don't have to hire a personal chef, although that would be pretty cool. I mean, that would be, I mean, what a, that puts you in the category of, he won't even notice those tax dollars going away.

Speaker 2 My dog has a personal chef. Anyway, I'm sorry.
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We start with Donald Trump and the new approval ratings. It's higher than any time in his first presidency.

Speaker 2 And what's astounding is right right track, wrong track is the highest since 2004. People think we are on the right track more than since 2004.

Speaker 2 20 plus years. Hello.

Speaker 2 Here's the bad news on that. It's still underwater.
It's still under 50%.

Speaker 2 We got a long way to go, but at least we're making progress on that.

Speaker 3 I was thinking when we're going to do something on this on Studios America tonight, though, though, as well. But five years ago, this week, we are in the very first days of 15 days to slow the spread.

Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh. I mean, it seems in some ways so long ago, but in other ways, really recent to me.

Speaker 2 There's still people. What did I read this morning? I read a story where people were going, New Yorkers were going someplace and they said, you still have to wear, everybody has to wear a mask.

Speaker 2 I mean, and they were like, okay. Huh?

Speaker 3 I mean, how is that possible?

Speaker 2 You're still doing it.

Speaker 3 It feels like now we're getting to the point where,

Speaker 3 and this has happened, the Trump administration has tried to push this through for places like Colombia. You can't wear masks.

Speaker 3 The exact opposite, right? Not you're required to wear them, but now you can't wear them because of how people are using them, which is often to torture Jewish people in the streets.

Speaker 3 But that's an issue.

Speaker 2 It used to always be that way. You couldn't wear a mask in public because of we need to know your identity.
And that kind of went to hell in a handbasket and then went the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 Hopefully, we can get it back to at least sanity. All right, we will see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 This is Glenn Beck.