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Speaker 2 But on the best of, we tell you more about Artemis, the playbook, and how the DEI movement was attempting to build their own Marvel cinematic universe. It is shocking.

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Speaker 3 the best of the Blend Beck program. I want to talk to you about a playbook

Speaker 2 literally called the Artemis Playbook. This came out and was released by NASA, but it was internal use only, and a very, very small group of people knew about it.
It came out in August 25th of 2021.

Speaker 2 So this is just a few months after Biden wins. It has just been released to me and the Blaze team

Speaker 2 to be able to tell you about it in an exclusive. And I have put it all up at Glenbeck.com.

Speaker 2 It's a literal playbook, and it was released by these brave whistleblowers who, even though they don't even work for the government or NASA anymore, they're all scientists now in the private sector.

Speaker 2 They've left NASA.

Speaker 2 They don't want their names out there. They don't want their faces out there.

Speaker 2 They don't want their IDs revealed because they believe, and they have reason to, that the long arm of the deep state can still reach out and not only get them fired, but get them blackballed in the science world, their world, just for revealing to you what our government has actually been doing behind your back.

Speaker 2 I've never seen anything like this document.

Speaker 2 It is not about rockets or lunar soul at all, soil. It's not.

Speaker 2 It's a script.

Speaker 2 This is something that Edward Bernays, look him up if you don't know who he is. around the time of Woodrow Wilson would have been thrilled with.

Speaker 2 He's the father of propaganda, or now we call it advertising, but he's also the guy that taught Goebbels in Germany exactly how to use propaganda. That's all coming from us and Edward Bernays.

Speaker 2 This is exactly that.

Speaker 2 And it should be illegal, and we'll talk about that here in a second. But first, let me explain.
It's a script. It's a Hollywood-style pitch to sell not the moon, but something else.
Cultural Marxism.

Speaker 2 And it's all dressed up as space exploration. And it's also about something called a public-private partnership and greed and money.
And it's grotesque. Okay.

Speaker 2 Now, it couldn't have happened without a seismic shift in American governance that I'm not even sure we talked about at the time. I have to go back and look at our archives.
But when Obama was in,

Speaker 2 This all began under Barack Obama. Before Obama, government propaganda aimed at a U.S.
citizen was a line we did not cross. You were not allowed to use government propaganda on our own citizens.

Speaker 2 It was illegal, a relic of a time when truth mattered more than the narrative, okay? And the government served the people.

Speaker 2 and respected the rights of the people and was not trying to do a big con job on them. This was the Smoot-Moon, Smith-Moont Act of 1948.

Speaker 2 That act kept all government propaganda away from the American citizenry, and it shielded us from any government spin. But in 2012, and I don't even remember this, Stu.

Speaker 2 I can't believe we didn't cover this. But in 2012, Obama signed the Smith-Moon Modernization Act.
We're going to make it super, super modern because we're progressives.

Speaker 2 This opened the floodgates of propaganda. The reason why the government can lie to you now about COVID and everything else is because of this.
In 2012, Obama made storytelling okay.

Speaker 2 So suddenly federal agencies could craft stories for us. not just for foreign audiences, not just to overthrow their nation,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 use that trick of propaganda on you. And NASA sees the moment when Joe Biden got in.
So the Artemis program is something that was started by Donald Trump when he came in.

Speaker 2 He recognized that we have got to go back up into space because that is really the future.

Speaker 2 And we have so many things up on the moon that can take us then to Mars, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 So he said, we're going to return humans to the moon. I guess because we can no longer say, we're going to put a man on the moon.
Not, you know, thinking all men are created equal.

Speaker 2 Well, what about the women?

Speaker 4 Shut up.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 This turned into a giant propaganda machine. You can go to Glenbeck.com right now, and we have the actual formally confidential secret Artemis playbook.
It's on Glenbeck.com.

Speaker 2 It's the only place you can find it at this point.

Speaker 2 And it reads like a movie treatment. Page after page after page outlines a mission, but not of science,

Speaker 2 not of even going to the moon, really. That's kind of the backdrop.
This was storytelling at its best

Speaker 2 and telling the story of diversity, equity, and inclusion. DEI.

Speaker 2 That was the point that

Speaker 2 Joe Biden took Donald Trump's Artemis, and when he gets in, he changes this to just be a tool for DEI.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 The first page boasts of human space exploration, and we're going to lead the return of humans to the moon for long-term exploration and utilization.

Speaker 2 Sounds really noble until you realize: wait a minute,

Speaker 2 they've just changed human

Speaker 2 to BIPOC,

Speaker 2 people of color, and of

Speaker 2 different gender. And they even include, we're going to land a woman of color on the moon.
She's going to be the first woman on the moon. And we're also,

Speaker 2 her astronaut partner isn't even going to be American.

Speaker 4 What the hell is that?

Speaker 2 So it wasn't about finding anything on the moon, doing anything on the moon. It was about

Speaker 2 changing the human narrative. Okay, quoting.

Speaker 2 So the moon's a backdrop. The real star is a social agenda, but you were never meant to know that.
And this was no accident.

Speaker 2 In the first term, Trump challenged NASA to go do some more moonshots to prepare America for the next phase of... human exploration and what's coming.
And the first step has to be a moon base.

Speaker 2 And you have to have that because if you want to go further than the moon, you got to start at the moon, not from Earth.

Speaker 2 When he lost the election in 2020, within six months of this new administration, that Artemis project had become completely perverted.

Speaker 2 And the playbook details the presidential memorandum from the Biden administration pushing DEI as the core of NASA.

Speaker 2 Do you remember when Barack Obama did this and said NASA is to make, what was it, Islam feel better about themselves or something? You remember that? And we're like, what? The hell is that?

Speaker 2 Because they don't look at this as science. They use this to be able to say, even the greatest scientists say that.

Speaker 2 No, that's propaganda.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it wasn't just

Speaker 2 Biden.

Speaker 2 Page two reveals a first woman and first person of color on the moon. Not the most qualified, not necessarily the brightest, but tokens in the diversity box.
This is a way to get people killed.

Speaker 2 You're going to the moon.

Speaker 2 I want, now it might be a black woman, you know, lesbian who also, you know, has only one leg, so she now has some sort of bionic. Maybe she's the best.

Speaker 2 And I mean that sincerely, but that's the only reason she should be on the moon. It's the only reason a man should be on the moon.

Speaker 2 It's the only reason anyone should be on the moon because you are the best and the brightest.

Speaker 2 So NASA's pioneers, you know, the ones who actually endured Apollo's grueling test, you know, the ones who watched their friends burn up on pads, launch pads, the ones who actually did these, they're all sidelined for a storytelling universe

Speaker 2 and when I say universe that's actually what it says the Artemis universe this the this document is

Speaker 2 is a story pitch it's a movie pitch page 17 calls for a mass appeal campaign especially to underrepresented groups not scientists not engineers but a demographic target page 33 calls it, quote, a cinematic universe.

Speaker 2 So in it,

Speaker 2 they define all of the roles as if they're writing a movie, a cinematic universe, like, you know, the Marvel universe.

Speaker 2 There are graphics that show the designated heroes, the bad guys. It's a story.
It's literally writing a story out of thin air. Guess who the bad guys are?

Speaker 2 The bad guys are any American that speaks out against DEI. That's the bad guy.
We're going to space to show those guys they're wrong.

Speaker 2 Wow. So it's not a moon mission at all.
It's a Marvel movie with astronauts. And the goal was to sell an ideology, not a lunar landing.

Speaker 2 And who benefits?

Speaker 2 Page 28 hints at a public-private partnership. Corporations named in the document, Disney, Netflix, HBO, Colgate, Coca-Cola, Nike, Adidas, and H ⁇ M.

Speaker 2 They were all partnering with NASA, peddling these new moon-made products.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 this is not exploration. This is a windfall for any company that will get into bed with the federal government.
Billions,

Speaker 2 billions of dollars. $93 billion were spent by 2021, and

Speaker 2 it was supposed to be total $100 billion for the whole thing.

Speaker 2 So $93 billion is spent. They're now saying it's going to cost $100 billion more.
So $193 billion.

Speaker 2 And you have nothing to show for it. There's nothing that has been done except an ad campaign.

Speaker 2 And you're footing the bill.

Speaker 2 And the corporate giants are the ones that are going to rape you even more by selling you products that you didn't know were all part of a campaign to change your mind about how racist you are.

Speaker 2 All under the guise of equity.

Speaker 2 Do not take my word for it. The document is

Speaker 2 unbelievable. And it's at glennbeck.com right now.
It's 68 pages. It costs millions to produce.
Even Michael Bloomberg said, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 The moon is bypassed for pseudoscience, DEI. They say it's going to cost a total of $250 billion, and we still have nothing to show.

Speaker 4 Hmm.

Speaker 2 It's no longer a noble cause. What was it that Kennedy said? This country of the United States was not built by those who waited and rested and wished to look behind them.

Speaker 2 this country was conquered by those who move forward and so will space okay

Speaker 2 did you hear what he just said this is in the 1960s these things aren't done by people who

Speaker 2 want to look behind them

Speaker 2 that's conquered by people who want to look ahead what is DEI?

Speaker 2 It is nothing but grievance. It's nothing but look behind.
Look what just happened. Look what they've been doing to you.

Speaker 2 So it goes against everything America has ever heard or believed in about the noble projects of going to space.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the program, our chief researcher and head writer for the Glenbeck Wednesday Night Special, our TV, Jason Buttrell. Hello, Jason.

Speaker 4 Hello, Glenn.

Speaker 2 Last night, what an amazing, what an amazing thing. I know you've been putting weeks and weeks and weeks into research of this.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 holy cow. I mean, I just went over it again last hour.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I don't think people really understand the gravity of this.

Speaker 2 And I think the most important thing is this was all done legally because Obama had the law changed, not through executive order, but had the law changed. Stu, look up what the week that that passed.

Speaker 2 Find out what else was in the news that week. What else was going on? Why did we not stand on this?

Speaker 2 They actually made it legal to use propaganda on the American people, saying it's so effective overseas, we can't not use it on Americans. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, wild. And then the fact that a lot of this was happening and it was kind of like now it was lightning fast.
I'm talking about going back to Obama. We had no idea, really, the extent of DEI.

Speaker 2 None. And we showed that last night.

Speaker 2 We talked about this. Stu, did you know DEI was passed through executive order by Barack Obama?

Speaker 2 So remember when they said, because remember, it was during COVID when our kids start going back to school that we're all like, wait, what is this DEI CRT thing?

Speaker 2 And they all said, that's a conspiracy. None of that's happening.
Remember? Yeah, it's not real. It was passed through an executive order under Barack Obama.
We showed that last night.

Speaker 2 And then this thing was happening, this Artemis program for NASA. That's all about

Speaker 2 ESG,

Speaker 2 not ESG, but DEI.

Speaker 2 And it's at that time they're denying that that's even real. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the full extent, we still don't even know.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 3 Because we would have never even known all this stuff in this NASA document if not for a couple of whistleblowers came forward and said, hey, have you seen this?

Speaker 2 The same thing can be said. And we had him on last night.
I think he's on the phone now.

Speaker 2 Brigadier General Christopher Christopher Walker he's a former West Virginia Air National Guard commander former senior advisor to the Air Force DEI office now he was in last night and I'm like you were wait you were a senior advisor at the DEI office how did that happen because you're a whistleblower on this you're against all of this stuff he was a mole And luckily, there's enough people like him, or there were at the time, to go, no, no, no, you need to go in.

Speaker 2 You're black, you need to go in, just

Speaker 2 catalog and let us know what's going on, which I think gave me an awful lot of hope.

Speaker 2 If I have that right,

Speaker 2 his pilot call

Speaker 2 signal or sign was Mookie, so he asked me to call him Mookie.

Speaker 4 I feel a little weird about it, but Mookie, welcome to the program. How are you?

Speaker 4 Brigadier General Mookie. I'm doing fine.
I'm doing fine. Yeah, yeah.
So look,

Speaker 4 there were times when

Speaker 4 I would

Speaker 4 try to just use logic and data to

Speaker 4 go against certain things. But sometimes they would kind of look at me and wonder if, hey, are you really on the team? But

Speaker 4 because of the color of my skin, they said, no, he has to be. And

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 they were fools.

Speaker 2 So you've been ringing the bell for a while. Last night, we talked about a few things

Speaker 2 that,

Speaker 2 you know, the, what was it, purple rope operation?

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 4 Purple ropes there at the Air Force Academy.

Speaker 4 And at West Point and Naval Academy, I think they might have had similar things, but I was primarily worried about the purple ropes because that's my alma mater.

Speaker 2 So explain to people who didn't see the show last night what the purple ropes were.

Speaker 4 This is crazy. The purple ropes are

Speaker 4 a cadre of political commissars or Zampolets that go around ratting on people who might say anything that is politically incorrect or might be considered a microaggression.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 these are not just this is their gig, right? This was their gigs.

Speaker 4 And they took pictures and

Speaker 4 proud of themselves being the ones who are turning in their fellow cadets for this kind of thing. And I said, wow, if they've gotten to the point where they can get

Speaker 4 people who are going to be our future leaders in the military proud of being political commissars, then we are sunk. We've got to destroy this now.

Speaker 2 You explained this by using Tom Clancy, a movie from Tom Clancy. Explain

Speaker 4 the hunt for Red October.

Speaker 4 Those who have read the book, those who have seen the movies, those who have done both,

Speaker 4 on the submarine was one of those political commissars, Zampolitz, who has great power, almost as actually not almost, he has as much power as the captain of that submarine. And

Speaker 4 when

Speaker 4 I'm trying to remember the Sean Connery's character, I think is

Speaker 4 Milnius, but nevertheless, when he wants to do whatever he wants to do, he is always having to

Speaker 4 think and

Speaker 4 out-chess match this

Speaker 4 Zampolet.

Speaker 4 Luckily, that Zampolet meets his end.

Speaker 4 And thank God the purple ropes met their end.

Speaker 2 So the thing about this is not only did the Soviet Union have these political czars or commissars.

Speaker 4 China has them too.

Speaker 2 China has them, and

Speaker 2 Germany used to have them. The SS officers that would be the ones that are embedded in all of the commands and all of the troops and their job was to make sure you towed the line of the party.

Speaker 2 For America to do this, I don't think we've ever had anything like it.

Speaker 2 And for anybody who knew what was going on, I mean, and especially if you'd been around for a while, That had to be terrifying when you saw that.

Speaker 4 So there were a lot of

Speaker 4 graduates from the Air Force Academy, alumni, who didn't even believe it was going on. They said, no, no, that's impossible.
That could never happen.

Speaker 4 And they refused to believe it until we showed them the actual evidence, the pictures, and the documents. And they flipped out

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 my timeframe, you know, all of us, we came up during the Cold War and we know about this. Some of the youngsters nowadays have no idea about that.

Speaker 4 And to some of them, it might seem like a virtuous thing.

Speaker 4 And if we've allowed our educational system in the United States to let our young people think that being political commissars is a virtual thing, I mean, virtuous thing, then we've really gone off the rails.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that leads you right to

Speaker 2 now

Speaker 2 and the cultural revolution because that's what it was. That's right.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 General Jason Butchell here, we met yesterday, Glenn's headwriter in research.

Speaker 3 A couple of of things. First, I just want to say thank you for giving a shout out to my beloved Marine Corps last night on the show.

Speaker 4 All right. All right.

Speaker 4 I just call it like I see it.

Speaker 4 Okay. All right.
Stop the makeout session. Let's move on.

Speaker 3 So I'm a military man myself, and I know about all the different offices within the DOD where, you know, we have an acronym for everything. And I guess

Speaker 3 I'm worried about the bureaucracy within the military and how

Speaker 3 the DEI programs can go off and hide in other places to roar back later. And I was reading through some of your documents from students for fair admissions against the Naval Academy.

Speaker 3 And you were mentioning a ton of offices and people like the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness and the Assistant Secretaries for each branch, multiple different names.

Speaker 3 I don't know if they're still there. Are you worried about those people that are still there in some of those offices that can make this come back?

Speaker 4 Actually, I'm not.

Speaker 4 So here's why.

Speaker 4 All of those positions that you just mentioned are appointee positions and they're gone. And

Speaker 4 right now I know for a fact that even some of the other positions that are not appointed but in those same offices are being purged right now because

Speaker 4 as I told Glenn yesterday,

Speaker 4 there are a lot of what I call freedom fighters waiting to dispose of this Marxism that has been creeping into

Speaker 4 our government.

Speaker 4 And they are saying, yeah,

Speaker 4 this one, this one. Now, of course, this

Speaker 4 is not going to be clean because

Speaker 4 there is always potential for people

Speaker 4 who

Speaker 4 have beefs with people, other people, to just try to categorize them that way. It's never going to be clean.

Speaker 4 I have this t-shirt that says,

Speaker 4 I can fix stupid, but it's going to hurt.

Speaker 4 And that is what's happening right now.

Speaker 4 So some innocents are going to be caught in the crossfire, but later on,

Speaker 4 I am confident that they will be taken care of.

Speaker 4 But right now, if we try to to do things in a really nice,

Speaker 4 gentlemanly way,

Speaker 4 then we're going to end up losing. We got to go in there, like Churchill did back in World War II,

Speaker 4 against the will of all of his admirals and generals. He brought in the,

Speaker 4 can I say it? Ass kickers.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 you got to read the book,

Speaker 4 Churchill's

Speaker 4 Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

Speaker 4 A movie came out that was sort of,

Speaker 4 it was not historically correct, but you got to read the actual facts.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 what Churchill did helped win the war. General.
And this is what we're going to have to do.

Speaker 3 I'm worried about the Naval Academy specifically, especially in that case. And you call out a Dr.
Jeanette Haney, who the Naval Academy really, really relied on.

Speaker 3 Are you still worried about people like that influencing going forward?

Speaker 4 No. No,

Speaker 4 because the fact that this administration knows about her, we don't have to worry about that anymore.

Speaker 4 Secondly, again,

Speaker 4 for everyone like her who was going along with the program, I know for a fact there were, for every one of them, there's three of us.

Speaker 4 But we just had to keep ourselves, keep our powder dry for the right moment. And now, with

Speaker 4 President Trump,

Speaker 4 this is our moment. And now we can go in and win the war.

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Speaker 2 Ryan, welcome to the program. How are you? Hey, it's great to be with you.
It's great to be with you. This is an amazing article, the 15 Smoking Guns that show this guy is clearly a terrorist threat.

Speaker 2 I think I got to like number three and I'm reading it. I'm like, how is this even an argument? How is this guy even here still?

Speaker 4 I mean, mean,

Speaker 2 honestly, why isn't he even in jail here in America?

Speaker 2 Can we go through these one by one?

Speaker 5 Yeah, absolutely. And I think I would preface this by saying, like, obviously, we're thankful that he's being deported and we can all applaud that, but we shouldn't necessarily be impressed by it.

Speaker 4 I think that's kind of taken

Speaker 4 up.

Speaker 2 It is a pretty low bar here.

Speaker 5 Exactly.

Speaker 5 But what's a little disturbing is the fact that because the Trump administration hasn't involved to any degree that I'm aware of, those of us that monitor these types of groups, and that's why I have this information available,

Speaker 5 they came out with this and kind of got put on the defensive. And now Mahmoud Khalil, and the group he's a part of that we're going to talk about, is more powerful than ever.

Speaker 5 All the pro-Hamas seditionist groups are fundraising off of this.

Speaker 4 This is crazy.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's a big mistake because they didn't work with those of us that could justify what they're doing. They just kind of

Speaker 4 did it.

Speaker 2 Okay, so let me go take this point by point with you. First point.
Sure. Khalil's group seeks to incite and carry out terrorism on U.S.
soil, including copying the October 7th atrocities.

Speaker 5 Yes, so the group that he is the leader of or a leader of, Columbia University Apartheid Divest,

Speaker 5 which is actually a coalition of 100 groups, 100 student groups, they say, 115. They list many of them.

Speaker 5 They posted on their social media page multiple times that they were telling their comrades involved in the global intifada, primarily targeting the United States, they talk about attacking the U.S.

Speaker 5 more than they talk about Israel, to, quote, look to the tactics of the Palestinian resistance for inspired action and to rise like a flood.

Speaker 5 And when they say flood, what they're doing is they're referring to the October 7th attacks because Hamas refers to it as Operation Jerusalem flood, Alaksa flood.

Speaker 5 So that's how that would be interpreted. That's saying October 7th, good idea for U.S.
soil.

Speaker 2 Number two, his group praised the October 7th attacks and Islamist-backed violent uprisings in Bangladesh as part of the global infotata

Speaker 2 against American imperialism.

Speaker 5 Right. So they see themselves as part of a global intifada that's both Marxist, communist, actually some anarchist elements, and Islamists.
It's all one thing.

Speaker 5 So they view it as they're part of an international network.

Speaker 2 His group said, quote, we must genuinely threaten the state, I imagine that's America, so much we are killed, jailed, tortured, disappeared, and targeted in America, end quote.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 5 And they say that the goal of doing that, you have to go through those sacrifices, they call this, to achieve liberation in America.

Speaker 5 And what they're doing is, if you look at what they and their comrades talk about, they refer to America as Turtle Island. and basically it's a Native American myth.

Speaker 5 What they're saying is, is just as they want to replace Israel with an Arab state of Palestine, their goal is to replace the United States with a Native American state of Turtle Island.

Speaker 2 Give me a break.

Speaker 2 First of all, can we just talk? I'm sorry to do this here, but let me go forward.

Speaker 2 Can we stop with the Native Americans were so much better than every other human being alive? They were humans. They were warring all the time, just like every other race and group of people.

Speaker 2 They were enslaving.

Speaker 2 If they didn't kill you in war, they enslaved you after war. Please, can we stop?

Speaker 2 Humans are humans. This

Speaker 2 ridiculous. Well, these were Native Americans, and so they were perfect.
Shut up. Grab a book.
Read a little history. Okay, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 No, thank you for saying that.

Speaker 5 Especially ironic because a lot of these people hate religion, but they model their characterization of Native Americans on Jesus Christ.

Speaker 5 When you look at how they describe the white man came in and the Native Americans had to die for everyone's sins because they were pure and they were killed by capitalism. But anyway.

Speaker 2 So is there any, I mean, are people that stupid that they think that a Marxist, communist, Islamist group is going to hand over America to the Native American nations? Are they that? I mean, really?

Speaker 5 I mean, honestly, Blood, from watching the way the protesters talk on their personal social media pages, a lot of this is performative, and it's more about they feel scared for the future for, in some cases, many legitimate reasons.

Speaker 5 They feel on the safety net, there's no one coming to help them.

Speaker 5 And so they gravitate to whichever group is talking about the most far-sweeping change. So they hear revolution.
It's not like they're studying Marx and then saying, oh, that's a great idea.

Speaker 5 Let me join that group. It's more, I'm scared.
There's got to be a revolution because, my God, what am I going to do? I don't know if I can make it in the future.

Speaker 5 And these groups speak the language and they bring them in.

Speaker 2 Number four, Khalil's group called for attacking the military and the police en masse and dismantling the state infrastructure, assuming it's America.

Speaker 5 Yep. And you can tell because on all these posts, these are several slides together.

Speaker 5 So they do keep bringing it back to America, but they'll cite the violence in Bangladesh or what Hamas did as the example to follow.

Speaker 5 And so that particular post, after going over and praising how the Bangladeshi militants were attacking the police and military and dismantling things, they say those of us in the Western world have the obligation to meet them there after saying that this is, you know, they escalated in this way.

Speaker 2 So if this

Speaker 2 if this hasn't been bad enough for you to shut the pie hole, if you're like, this guy, he's just a freedom fighter, there's no hope for you. But let me go on.

Speaker 2 Number six, Khalil's group seeks the eradication of Western civilization.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, what more can you say to that? It's right there.

Speaker 5 And they also talk about burning a lot of things down, too.

Speaker 5 You'll notice that pattern throughout these points. The example they they give, there's a lot of burning down prisons, burn this, burn that.

Speaker 5 And they're a big fan of anarchists or arsonists, I mean, arsonist terrorism.

Speaker 2 I have a former prime minister of England, Liz Truss, coming in today for a show.

Speaker 2 And I can't wait to talk to her because I'd like to hear her opinion on what the hell is wrong with all of you people over in Europe and in England.

Speaker 2 How do they not see that they're going to be an Islamic state if they don't turn this around right now? And it may be too late.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 how are we missing this in the West?

Speaker 5 I think part of it is that there's a failure to recognize the degree to which all of the extremes, all the seditionist elements are kind of coming together.

Speaker 5 And so it seems like in people's minds, they're in separate boxes. So they hear, oh, the Islamic extremist threat, eh, you know, it's bad, but the odds of me getting hurt are not that high.

Speaker 5 They're not putting together the anarchists, the communists, the white nationalists are increasingly with them.

Speaker 5 You put it all together and you look at the polls that show how many people support them and you add them up, then you'll see the totality of the problem.

Speaker 2 Gosh.

Speaker 2 Number seven, Khalil's group asks violent extremists abroad for help in organizing uprising.

Speaker 2 Number eight, his group asks for help from militants in the global south in achieving its goal of eradicating Western civilization and fighting the fascism ingrained in the American consciousness.

Speaker 5 There's the Antifa reference. See, so it's all coming together.
Do you have the Java stuff in there? And then the anti-fascism Antifa reference.

Speaker 2 Khalil's group, number nine, threatened to shut down Columbia University unless it eliminated the police presence on campus and severed all ties to the New York Police Department, which if they did that just in Columbia, that accomplishes so many of the other goals.

Speaker 5 Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 And it's just amazing that the schools even tolerate that. Like, even a threat.
Like, how are you allowed to go on the campus at all?

Speaker 2 Khalil's group really likes to see things set on fire. I love that one.
Explain.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was alluding to before, where

Speaker 5 they're giving specific examples of what was going on in Bangladesh that should be replicated.

Speaker 5 And they're like, oh, how they set fire to the state broadcasting network's headquarters, how they set fire to the prison, how they set fire to the government offices, how they set fire to the state vehicles.

Speaker 5 And then there is an arsonist terrorist in California who tried to firebomb a federal building.

Speaker 5 He firebombed a cop car,

Speaker 5 lit a building on fire, looted a building on college campuses. And that's all fine and dandy.
They say that that's all a wonderful thing, and everyone should love the guy.

Speaker 2 Number 11, Khalil's group had terrorists teach Columbia students.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so he actually put together a virtual event that featured two leaders of this group called Samadoun.

Speaker 5 Anyone that knows this stuff, 30 seconds, you would know this is a front for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which is like the Marxist counterpart to Hamas.

Speaker 5 They worked together and they're both backed by Iran, took part in the October 7th attacks.

Speaker 5 And this wasn't some academic exercise where you heard diverse viewpoints and anything was challenged. No, it was just come in and tell the students what reality is.
And that's what they did.

Speaker 5 And they taught the students that hijackings that were done by Palestinian terrorists are an inspiring thing.

Speaker 2 Number 12, Colombia protesters were told to riot by a Chinese Communist Party entity, and they complied hours later.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, just see, all you can do is laugh because it's so absurd in some of these cases. So over 100 protesters from Columbia University go to the headquarters of People's Forum,

Speaker 5 which we know from the Capital Research Center profile on them is heavily, if not completely, funded by the Chinese Communist Party.

Speaker 5 Like the leader is over there in China and in Asia, and this is all known and proven. And so, of course, they say, you know what, you guys should do? You should riot.

Speaker 5 And then a few hours later, Khalil's group goes and they riot. So they were incited by the Chinese Communist Party in that instance.

Speaker 2 Again, we're talking about a guy, Columbia University student, that

Speaker 2 is... is really behind a lot of the stuff that was happening in Columbia University, all of this really, you know, Jew hatred, Israel hatred stuff.

Speaker 2 And the people on the left are going, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 How dare you do that? Well,

Speaker 2 yeah, you're either part of the problem or you just are ill-informed or uninformed. You're living in a self-contained box of ignorance.
We're talking to Ryan Morrow.

Speaker 2 You can follow him on X at Ryan Morrow. His website is Ryan Morrow.
That's spelled, by the way, M-A-U-R-O, ryanmorrow.com.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 we're down to the last couple of points that you're making in this great op-ed

Speaker 2 on the Blaze News and Blaze.com.

Speaker 2 Let's see. We have

Speaker 2 13. Khalil's group stated that their stated goal is to topple all institutions that benefit from colonial racial capitalism and dismantle the state.

Speaker 5 Yep, so it's an anti-government group, just like the left likes to talk about the crazy right-wing militia-type forces, but then you could have this Islamist Marxist-friendly group saying the same thing and civil rights icon.

Speaker 2 Khalil's group boasts about vandalism of campus property.

Speaker 5 Yep, and I included that just to show people that the same people that do that type of thing, you can't just dismiss it.

Speaker 5 It's all part of the same thing.

Speaker 5 So there's broader implications to hear that. It's not just about the spray paint.

Speaker 2 The last one, number 15, a large part of Khalil's coalition declared itself a literal part of Hamas.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so Students for Justice in Palestine, which is like the biggest group behind all these protests.

Speaker 5 And by the way, after I spoke with you, I completed my study for Capital Research Center, where I found over 150 pro-terrorism groups were behind the protests.

Speaker 5 Literally 150. And so, and this was Khalil's group was one of them.

Speaker 5 And so, Khalil's group is a coalition, and probably the biggest group within his coalition is Students for Justice in Palestine, which is nationwide the biggest group involved in all of this stuff.

Speaker 5 And it's kind of widely known that they celebrate the October 7th attacks because people were shocked. Well, people were so shocked they didn't read the rest of the statement that they put out.

Speaker 5 Because the rest of the statement, they actually say, we just want to clarify something. The resistance movement that did these attacks, we're not saying that we're in solidarity with them.

Speaker 5 We're saying we are part of them.

Speaker 5 They declared themselves to be part of a designated foreign terrorist organization, Hamas and you could say the other groups that were involved in October 7th.

Speaker 5 They said they're part of all those groups that it's illegally illegal to be a part of. And here's the kicker that I just recently found out.

Speaker 5 Do you know who else is a member of Khalil's group?

Speaker 2 Satan.

Speaker 4 Ilhan Omar's daughter.

Speaker 2 You've got to be kidding me.

Speaker 5 She was arrested for her activism with this group.

Speaker 5 She tweeted that she is an organizer with Khalil's group, the Columbia University Apartheid Divest, and the Students for Justice in Palestine chapter at Columbia.

Speaker 4 So think of it this way.

Speaker 5 If Students for Justice in Palestine says they are a part of Hamas,

Speaker 5 and then Ilhan Omar's daughter is a part of Students for Justice in Palestine, what does that say about her daughter?

Speaker 2 What does it say about Ilan Omar?

Speaker 2 So are these

Speaker 2 because the language is so Marxist,

Speaker 2 it's strangely almost disarming instead of it being, you know, a la Akbar.

Speaker 2 What is his center? Marxism, revolution, or

Speaker 2 crazy Islamists?

Speaker 5 It kind of becomes become

Speaker 5 all one thing because I monitor all these extremists, all the seditionist chats. I call this the seditionist movement that bring them all together.

Speaker 5 And I'll hop from the anarchists to the communists to the Islamists to the white nationalists. And I can't tell the difference in the rhetoric between them.

Speaker 5 Like it's just they switch out some nouns, but it's almost all the same thing. Revolution, dismembering the state along ethnic, racial, political lines, U.S.
is an illegitimate state.

Speaker 5 It's possible that this guy's more aligned with the PFLP, the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine, which is backed by Iran, but is kind of like the it works in tandem with Hamas.

Speaker 5 They're as close as they could be, but they're communists.

Speaker 2 Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 I can't thank you enough for everything that you do. I mean, you are fighting the good fight and doing all the heavy lifting on it, and I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Ryan, Ryan Morrow, Capital Research Center, investigative researcher and counterterrorism expert. You can find this op-ed at theblaze.com.

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