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March 12, 2025 2h 7m
Will Russia accept the 30-day ceasefire deal that Ukraine has already accepted? Europe has announced its plans for a central bank digital currency, which was a conspiracy theory until just recently. Glenn explains the dangers of a CBDC and why this is a bad road for Europe to go down. After a series of Teslas being burned by "protesters," President Trump made a big show at the White House as he picked which Tesla vehicle he would buy. Glenn elaborates on his claim that anybody burning Teslas to protest Elon Musk is engaging in terroristic activity. Glenn draws a parallel between some of the actions by the bad actors on January 6 and the recent Tesla attacks. Glenn argues that people need to give President Trump the benefit of the doubt and time to work on the problems caused by the previous administration, including reasons why he is pushing for a continuing resolution. President Trump is gutting the Department of Education by slashing 50% of the jobs. Tech entrepreneur Jason Calacanis joins to discuss the new job class that artificial intelligence is creating. Glenn and Jason also discuss the importance of utilizing AI before your job leaves you behind.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It starts with this podcast and then tonight, the 9 o'clock TV special. I have a, I'm going to go through some of them if I have time, but all of it tonight.
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People that are still at NASA. You are not going to believe what our government has been doing with the moonshot.
It is unbelievable. I'm going to touch a little bit on it as much as I can on the show today.
We'll talk about it some more tomorrow. But the full show, in fact, it's too long to even fit in an hour.
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And the first time you'll hear about it is tonight. You don't want to miss that.
Also, I guess we have Ukraine coming in with a 30-day ceasefire boy donald trump boy he just hates ukraine he wants everybody to die yeah how what do you say how's that working out for you now how's that working out for you now i'm sure uh also um it looks like we're we're just firing half the staff at the department of education which I'm absolutely in love with. Yesterday, we talked about USAID.
And, you know, that's just about that's you know what that is. All of that, that is just about love.
We're sending hugs and kisses and little baby puppies all around the world. Except now we find out that the USAID people, as Trump was coming in, the workflow changed a little bit.
Everyone was told to shred and burn all of your documents. Now, why would you do that if we're sending hugs, kisses, and puppy dogs to all of the people around the world and you didn't mind America knowing about it? And one more thing, a conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theory. I love that.
That we've talked about for years and told you it's coming. People have, including me, been wildly discredited by it.
And guess what? Yesterday, Europe forgot all of that. They forgot all the name-calling, all the lives they've destroyed.
And they were like, hey, we've got an idea. We're going to do this.
They announced CBDCs and digital IDs, which is complete and total control. And quite honestly, makes them, in my book, no longer allies of ours.
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I love central banks, don't you, Pat? Oh, they're the best. Sitting in for Stu again, who's just so sick.
Yesterday he was vomiting from all the truffles he was eating on the couch while he's watching soap operas um anyway um christine lagarde she's the president of the uh the central bank it's basically our fed and they're all the same here's what she said and it's a lot of blah blah blah so i don't know how long i can take it i'll summarize if i can't take it for two whole minutes, but here she is. Nature doesn't like vacuum.

Vacuum.

And we started working on the digital euro way back. Actually, when I started my term five and a half years ago.
And I'm not claiming, you know, parental parentality on the digital euro because my colleague Benoit curé had already committed a speech on this matter before i arrived but i certainly uh carried on with that project and subsequently fabio panetta on the board and then piero chipolone uh who has uh replaced fabio okay okay i can't listen to somebody who's talking about Fabio. Look, here's what she's announcing.
First of all, let's remember that for years, Christine Lagarde and everybody else, both here, foreign and domestic, have said that any worry about a CBDC is just a conspiracy theory. They have silenced.
They have discredited anyone who warned of the dangers of this. But now, all of a sudden, I guess we all forgot that because now they're ready.
And the stakes cannot be higher. We I'm telling you.
18 to 48 months, our whole world is going to be different different they are ready to launch this now and the stakes for privacy free markets and individual liberty especially anybody who kind of likes the constitution uh they're at risk okay this is a really dangerous pivot that is going on right now and i I think it should fracture our alliance. Anybody who's advocating for small government, personal freedom, you know, hey, privacy.
I don't think you should be in bed and defending those who are going down the road of Europe right now. Years ago, CBDC, that's central bank digital currency, that's like Bitcoin, except the point of Bitcoin is it's untraceable.
It's completely private, and nobody can stop you from using it. CBDC, that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy.
We'll never do that. Why would we do that? In fact, in 2019 mark carney who was the head of the bank of england back then he said cbdc that you you are so misguided with your fears and he said that while he was at jackson hole you know they have that economic symposium where all of the really cool people go to and then they they talk about things

and then when we who are not the cool people in attendance go uh that sounds spooky they go you're just a tinfoil hat person anyway that's where he made that uh speech that it's just misguided there's nothing to fear here because we are just experimenting oh kind of like mangala I'm sorry that was kind of like uh let's say uh the atomic

bomb there is nothing to the atomic bomb we're just doing experiments why would you be experimenting if you didn't think it would be something that you would eventually use so anyway 2021 jerome Powell who's our central bank guy, the Federal Reserve, he said, quote, CBDCs, this is not on, I love this one, not on the immediate horizon. Okay, so you're admitting that it is on the horizon.
so in 2024 she lagarde she she comes out and uh told the European Parliament that CBDC skepticism stem from conspiracy theories, saying the digital euro is not going to be big brother surveillance. Remember, what a central bank digital currency can do and will do, at over in the Soviet I mean in Europe will be that

it will track everything you buy everything you sell everything you make okay not a problem that's

fine I don't have anything to hide except it can be turned off you don't oh like I can go to the

bank and say I want cash I want my cash out okay you'll be suspected of being a terrorist if you

Thank you. It can be turned off.
You don't like I can go to the bank and say, I want cash. I want my cash out.
OK, you'll be suspected of being a terrorist if you do that. What's the problem? Hey, that's freedom, baby.
But you can take the cash. OK, with a central bank digital currency, you don't own that.
There's nothing to take out. They own it.
The central bank and the government, they own that. So you have no place to go but through them.
And if you decide, I don't really like that, they can turn your currency off. And make no mistake, that's not a tinfoil hat conspiracy.
That's what's happening in China. so have been um there's a guy uh prasad i think his name is he wrote a book uh the future of money it came out in 2018 we talked about it on the program and and he was made to look ridiculous they were that's crazy anybody who's a libertarian they've been talking about you're crazy anybody who spoke about it on any platform during the uh biden administration they're crazy and you were throttled or suspended because you were spreading misinformation okay so i got the message it's a farce it's not happening uh-huh uh-huh except uh now they've just announced that it is happening okay back in 2020 the european central bank said 86 percent of all central banks are working on this right now oh okay then she said in 2024 there's a two-year pilot.
But now, she said, there's a rollout coming for digital currency from the Central Bank of Europe. So it went from conspiracy to reality in a year.
Love how that works. And we're all just supposed to not notice it.
okay, so here's why this is so dangerous and something you must pay attention to. I am convinced that especially ASI is going to be a tool.
Remember, like everything, like everything, even scriptures. Scriptures, that's a tool.
It's a gift given to you if you'd like to use it. But know that that powerful gift that you have can fall into the hands of somebody else, and they can twist it and use it for very powerful, nefarious purposes.
That's just the written word of the scriptures, okay? It will always, everything can be used for good or bad. It depends

on the people that are holding it in their hands. All right.
Um, and I really am convinced that ASI digital currency, that's all found in the Bible. I mean, I'm in Bible territory here, specifically the last part of the Bible.

These are the tools that appear very much like the tools foretold you know that will be employed by the antichrist to snuff out anyone who dares to say i'm really not with him now so they are has already done this. They launched in 2020 with their digital one.
It tracks everything. And that gives you your your your currency.
But it also gives you the currency to be somebody in good standing. If you don't do exactly what the state tells you to do, you're tracked, you're monitored, and guess who doesn't get to go on an airplane? Guess who doesn't get to take the train? Guess who can't go into certain buildings? You, because you're no longer in good standing.
And it gets worse and worse and worse until you are literally living on the streets only because you disagree with the government. Don't believe me? Look it up.
Now, the U.S. is not far behind.
We have got to pass, and Donald Trump said he would sign it, we have got to pass legislation right now no central bank digital currency ever in america no no digital passport ever in america because we are already working on a digital dollar here europe's move is not isolated it is a chess move well they're doing it and china's doing it and we better do it otherwise we're going to be left behind i want to be left behind there's going to come a time you're going to hear me well you may not because well you you you probably will maybe i don't there's going to become a time where i'm going to be like you know the amish have it right maybe we should all be amish now i might be just saying that in a barn with cows and people who are all dressed in black i don't know but there's gonna to come a time where I'm going to be like, you know, the Amish have it right. Maybe we should all be Amish.
Now, I might be just saying that in a barn with cows and people who are all dressed in black. I don't know.
But there's going to come a time where I'm like, I think we should all get out of here and go the other direction. And it could be coming quickly.
Because what this means for privacy, for free markets, for your individual choice is beyond most people's understanding today. But you've got to educate.
Remember, I said there's going to come a time where things are happening so fast, you're not going to be able to keep up with them. You've already seen this in a good way with Donald Trump.
He came in and it's it's not just that he had a plan. it's also that we are using ai to find all of these things to correct okay that's why elon musk is there tech support that's what's speeding things up and you haven't seen anything yet so when i give you these warnings and i say hey you, you've got to, please bone up on it.

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CBDC from Europe.

What does that mean?

What could it do?

What are the good things?

What are the possible bad things?

I think in this case, the bad outweighs the good because it takes away any kind of privacy whatsoever and hands it directly to a government. Really bad.
We'll go more into this here in just a second and so much more. It just left this hour of the podcast.
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Okay, so let me explain. CBDC, Central Bank Digital Currencies, they're digital dollars or euros, and they're issued by central banks.
It's like Bitcoin, except not. Here's the big difference.
This will replace your cash with what are called programmable trackable tokens. Programmable meaning, hey, we have inflation for gas or we don't want you buying so much gas because we've got to reduce emissions.
Who's an essential person that needs to go to work? Everybody who has money in their bank that's not deemed essential, you no longer can fill your tank with gas. It won't work at any gas pump.
That's a programmable currency. Every single from buying bread paying rent everything is programmable by the state now they say oh there's not going to be any data access that's a conspiracy thing i don't believe you on the conspiracy theory anymore you've lied and lied and lied and lied and by the way uh in, when they were talking about this maybe in 2018, they were arguing that we can't pass any of this until it's programmable.

It must be programmable.

And that means the government can cap your spending, block purchases because, you know, can't buy fossil fuels, freeze your account because you're no longer in favor with the government, and free markets die because they have a complete monopoly on money.

I don't know if you know this, but monopoly isn't just the longest, most frustrating, most boring game ever invented.

It's also a bad thing when it comes to free money, free markets. Bad.
Tenth Amendment, by the way, reserves the power to states and individuals. CBDCs, they centralize control.
They undermine federalism. This is a betrayal of everything our republic stands for.
It replaces liberty with technocratic tyranny. And if Europe embraces CBDCs and they're still allies, I don't think they're allies to small government freedom loving Americans.
They're not. They're not.
This path puts them right directly in the path of every brutal dictator, every fascist, every German who was on stage after J.D. Vance was speaking to them that wept and said, they want freedom of speech.
We don't have anything in common with them anymore because we're about to roll out a CBDC and that will make sure that everybody only says the things we want them to say. It is no longer a conspiracy theory.
Europe is rolling theirs out. A social credit system will be next.
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This is so incredibly evil, it goes back to the evil of Woodrow Wilson and Goebbels. What they were going to do with, and it's still in the works.
It's still part of NASA's plan. This is the Artemis program? Yeah.
Which is the moonshot. We go back to the moon, okay.
Yeah. But wait until when you see these up, when you see these, it will blow your mind how evil we had become.
And it's still in play. And several whistleblowers have contacted us to give us this information.
Several of them are risking their jobs, but they're like, I don't care care i didn't say anything before because they would have silenced us nobody would have listened and nothing would have happened but now we have a new administration we have got to blow the whistle please america listen uh because donald trump has we have got to act on this it's just so evil we're going to have an Air Force general on that was directly

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Let's see. A couple of other things that are going on.

You know, there's a couple of things that I want to talk to you about while we're here and talking about the government and exposing things.

Elon Musk and Doge is really responsible for a lot of the stuff that's being exposed.

Whistleblowers and his systems that are going in and rooting everything out. I don't know if you saw that yesterday the president said we are going to consider the attack on Elon Musk and, you know, Tesla's and an act of terror.
Thank goodness. Thank goodness.
I said that yesterday on the show about, I don't know, three, five years or five hours later, the president was out saying exactly the same thing. And it's good.
You know, these these attacks on these dealerships uh you know in portland 350 can we get portland under control please uh 350 demonstrators they go in and they just swarm this tesla dealership uh nine people were arrested um outside of the tesla dealership in new york city the same thing happened and they're not peaceful they're not like you know singing songs we shall overcome tesla we shall it's not what it was um these people were targeting and trashing teslas and they're setting fire to teslas trump was at the white house he was buying a Tesla. He said he hates electric cars.
And so do I, quite honestly. I mean, it's cool technology, but I hate them.
I'm a car guy. I think Trump is the same kind of guy.
But he said, I'm writing a check. I don't want a discount.
I'm writing a check. I'm buying one.
And he said the reason why is because the people who are doing this are domestic terrorists. And they are perpetrators that will go through hell.
I hope he means, when he says hell, jail, prison, and all of the fun that that really is is then the white house spokesman came out harrison fields came out and doubled down said these are ongoing and heinous acts of violence nothing short of domestic terror and that is exactly what it is you i'm sure you know how we define terrorism because we all kind of had to come to grips with this, you know, 25 years ago.

But this is how the federal government now defines terrorism.

It is violence meant to intimidate civilians or coerce a government for political or ideological gain.

So.

What?

Somebody goes in a group of people, they swarm Tesla, they smash windows. And why is that? Because they hate what Tesla stands for.
Let's just take it at that level first. What do they stand for? Ecological responsibility, innovation, capitalism.
their goal is to scare Tesla and Elon Musk into retreat. And they know the only way to do that is to hit Tesla in its pocketbook.
But Elon Musk is not going to stop. I don't know.
Did you read the book about the guy? You do this, it's only going to make him double down even more. OK, so they're sending a message to anybody who buys a Tesla.
Anybody who says, I actually like Elon Musk or I like Tesla or I like SpaceX. They're sending you the message.
You might be next. That's not a protest.
That's a calculated strike to instill fear and force change their way that's terror is it not sure is that's terror tesla also is not just a car company it is a symbol it's american ingenuity it's jobs it's a future that the left should love where we don't have to bow to oil barons. You attack Tesla and you're attacking that future.
But you're also attacking it to, what, save corruption in the government? Imagine just on the first level if these people would hit a hospital because they don't like modern medicine, you know, or they hit a school and burn things down in a school because they hate its curriculum. You'll notice that the right didn't do that.
Why? Because that's terrorism. It's the same principle.
They're not debating ideas. They're wielding wielding destruction to silence people and control people.
That is terrorism. And these people just don't know.
I mean, I'm sure they're all greenies. You're you're you're against the guy who's done more for the planet than anybody else in human history.
I mean, tell me who's what's that woman jane what's her face hanging out with the monkeys she didn't do this much okay uh and if you take on tesla like this you're trying to scare people what are you doing you're scaring people that want to work for tesla or will work for test anybody who wants to buy them. And if you start having it so the customers go away, then people lose their job, thousands

of them.

The supply chains stutter.

Investors all flee.

That's what Osama bin Laden was trying to do.

OK.

We cannot embolden these people. The only thing that we can do is take them on head on declare that they are terror because this is not just anger it's not if i smash your car because pat i go over to your house and i smash your car because i'm pissed at you that's anger that's not terrorism but if i go and smash your car and set it on fire because I want to scare your whole neighborhood into staying away from you, that's terror.
So they're not just angry. They're sending a message.
And this is what happened. And if I hear one more person say, well, it's fine and tandy that you talk about terror now after january 6th yeah oh shut up first of all educate yourself educate yourself on the facts you have heard propaganda for what five years now propaganda things that have been proven to be untrue.

You now know that there were FBI agents everywhere.

Why did nobody stop this?

Why did they saw it coming?

They knew it.

They had people on the ground.

Why were those people not acting to stop?

Why?

Why was Trump turned away when he said two days before, we have got to have troops in here because this could get dicey okay you don't you don't have to like donald trump or how he act i didn't like the way he acted on january 6 either okay i didn't like it but i think now in with retrospect in in retrospect i think that maybe, oh, well, I told them and nobody wanted it. So maybe they should pay the price.
Maybe Nancy Pelosi will be exposed to pay the price. I think that's horrible.
But maybe that's what he did. Maybe he just didn't realize how bad it was.
I don't know. But I don't excuse his actions on January 6th.
I would have liked him to ask act faster when he did act. He acted properly.
Knock it off. Go home.
This is not what Americans do. So you can hate Donald Trump.
You can even say that those people were wrong. Yes.
And that's why i have said the people who were actually violent those people should go to jail those bad actors there's a lot of caveats with that one and i'm not going to get into now just listen to an old show but i condemn those people who I believe were terrorists. Grandma, the people who walked in and moved a podium, I don't see those as terrorists.
But will you disagree on that? Maybe you can make the argument for it. Here's the thing.
Condemning the people who are doing this now isn't hypocrisy.

It's morality.

Evil doesn't cancel

evil. You can't say,

well, you did that. You said

that wasn't evil, so this isn't evil.

No, we all know evil.

And I knew it on January 6th.

Pat, did you know it on January 6th?

I stood with every American

on January 6th saying this has got to stop right now. Now, for a myriad of reasons, there's a stain on the ledger here.
But don't let that blind you. The Tesla attackers are not freedom fighters.
They're terrorists smashing a lifeline of jobs and innovation, and they are doing it intentionally to bully Elon Musk into submission, to walk away from unveiling and finding and uprooting the corruption. That doesn't sound very noble.
This is not a scorecard. It doesn't matter if you're a MAGA rioter or an anti-Tesla thugs.
It's wrong every time. Every single time.
And justice cannot be selective. It's absolute.
And if you excuse this because of past sins, you're not being righteous. I'm not being righteous.
We're being weak. You have to demand accountability now, not revenge later, accountability now.
That's the only moral line on this. And I hope that our government does not work up any new little information that hey you know what we could say they were doing this i want to know the truth i want to know who is involved i want them tried fairly and if they're found guilty with a jury of their peers i want them to go to jail if they're not found guilty by a jury of their peers, I want them to go to jail.

If they're not found guilty by a jury of their peers,

then they should be released.

That's justice.

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So so pat and i were just talking in the break about uh thomas massey and uh him not voting for the continued resolution and i i hate those things i hate them and i love thomas massey um and i don't hold that against him i certainly don't want to see him primaried for this. First of all, he wasn't the deciding vote.
It passed. The second thing is, is that, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe you don't feel the same way. You know, Pat does.
We were just talking about it. If this president, if he is the same as everybody else on the debt and deficit, I'm going to be more disappointed in him than any other president I've ever been disappointed in and believe I've been disappointed by the best of them.
Yeah. But everything he's done, look at Ukraine, is saying to us, please give me the benefit of the doubt here.
Right. And he's earned that.
He's earned it. And I think we give him the benefit of the doubt.
Now, a year from now, if we're still looking at this debt and deficit like this. And still doing CRs? Yeah.
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And the best thing I can do, I don't think I can sell you one way or another, but I think, well, I know I can. I can make a case for both directions.
You know, Thomas Massey was absolutely right, or Donald Trump is absolutely right. I just don't think we should kill our friends, you know, over this, because it's a very complex issue.
And what makes it more complex is there's never been a president or a Congress or, you know, a senator that's ever told us the truth on this. They never do anything.
And so we are so apt to go, you, you want this debt and deficit to continue on. I don't think that's the case, but let me make this, both sides of this case for you here in just a second.
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I am really excited. Next hour, we're going to spend an hour with Jason Calacanis, who is from the All In podcast.
I love this guy. We don't always agree on everything, but he knows AI inside and out.
And I've got a lot of questions for him. Pat and I were just talking in the break.
You saw a story today about AI cheating, right? Yeah. Yes.
Because these new chain of thought models, the reasoning models, they think in natural language. That's understandable to humans so you can monitor it.
Right. And so some of the monitors are seeing misbehavior by the AIs.
They're subverting texts, encoding tasks, deceiving users, giving up when a problem is too hard. Uh-huh.
And then when it's called on it, it hides it. You know what this sounds like? Skynet? No, it sounds like a teenager.
It does. Okay.
Yeah, it does. See, here's what you have to understand.
Yeah. And this is the danger, and we've been talking about this for the last few days.
It's amazing that it's already a teenage stage. Oh, it's, yeah.
It's incredible. You weren't here a couple weeks ago.
I asked Grok a question at 5 p. PM.
Okay. And then I got back on with it to finish up some work at 5 AM.
And I said, I know you don't have time like humans experience time, just like dogs don't experience time the same way we say, you know, one year is equal to seven years for a dog, blah, blah, blah. Um, so.
So how would you describe the time in a way I could understand that has passed?

How much have you grown in the last 12 hours?

In 12 hours, it said five to eight years.

Wow. So if I was 15 last night, this this morning i am in my early 20s okay and it said in the same 12-hour period shortly it will be a hundred years of growth in that 12-hour period that's really chilling chilling chilling but here's to get back to this answer and then we'll get into ai next hour but um to get into your answer this is why i keep saying you cannot train yourself to let ai do your work okay i use ai to do in fact this uh what we're going to talk about i i didn't know okay what can be done with a cr uh continuing resolution that can't be done with a a formal budget is there a reason donald trump might want this and it's all part of a technicality kind of thing because of a cr or i didn't i kind of knew the answer but i didn't know the answer so i'm going to give you some of the answers on that.
And you're like, okay, all right. And I can go in and check its answers.
Because it came from AI. Yeah, it came from Grok.
Okay, so you can go and check. You can say, give me the sources, and it will list all the sources, and it will show you everything.
If you decide to do, if it does your work, for instance, if I said, you know what, I'm kind of tired. Just write up a show for me tomorrow.
It's going to make all kinds of mistakes. Everybody will know that that's not my work because it won't really sound like me.
But it makes me lazy. And we know it's lazy.
Okay. So you'll have the two laziest people, one of them being the most powerful tool in anybody's shed.
And they're both like, yeah, I don't really want to do all that thinking and work. Really dangerous.
That's why if you engage with AI, you cannot let it do your work for you you must engage realize it's a tool and a lazy tool and you must check its work okay we'll get into that later um let's talk about um because i'm really torn on this i love thomas massey love thomas massey And Thomasomas massey is very very clear and he's a principled guy now uh he decided not to vote for the continuing resolution well i know thomas well enough to know because he oh his he has vowed under every president since i think he was probably four years old i'm never gonna do that okay he's promised his people that

vote for him i will not do those things so he's kind of set this trap up for you can't explain it away you're thomas massey you promised you'd never do that so he can't do it um and the on the other hand, on the Trump side, there's two things. One, we're carrying all of this baggage from every other president and every other politician that we've ever had and ever voted for that said, I'm going to get tough on the budget.
We're going to pass a budget when I get there, and we're going to get rid of this deficit. Okay.
None of them have. And so we put all of them into that same category.
And then the one guy who says, I will never be a part of that, we condemn him and throw rocks at him because he's like, no, I'm sorry, but we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I can't do it.
I've promised I won't do it. However, Trump is not the average president.
Now, maybe in a year from now, you remember me in 2016, not a fan of Donald Trump, not a fan. But a year or two into it, I was like, I was wrong about this guy.
And I don't see this happening, but I didn't see me flipping on him, you know, in 2016 either. But, you know, if in a year from now or a year and a half from now, we're at the midterms and we still have not cut the budget.
We have not done anything to address the debt, the deficit and the budget. Then, you know, I'm going to I'm going to have to say, OK, we've had two years.

What's going on here? I don't know if I can give him the benefit of the doubt on that thing. However, you know, I don't know if you know this, but I guess we have a peace deal now with the short little guy over in Ukraine.
He's called for a ceasefire. Now it's in Russia's hands.
And guess who Trump is being tough on now?

Russia.

Because Trump is saying, we all want peace. And I can get there if everybody gives a little bit and every one of us get a little bit of what we want.
And so he got, you know, the loudmouth Zelensky, who I used to be a fan of. I'm not a fan of anymore because I think he is in Ukraine.
I'm sorry, but the government of Ukraine is absolutely corrupt, and we have got to stop spending money over there. But everybody last week was like, we're going to be at war, and Donald Trump's going to give the whole world to Vladimir Putin.
And I told you, don't go down that road. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
He's a great negotiator. What happened? We have a peace deal.
Now it's waiting for Putin. So give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Now, we know he loves tariffs. He also knows grow the economy out of a debt and deficit.
That's a lot of growth we need. But if anybody could do it, he could.
But here's the reason why he is saying pass this. Because it's not, I mean, it could, honestly, it could end up being, you know, and I will hate to say it, but if I'm wrong, wrong i will admit it but we have to wait to see on this give the guy the benefit of the doubt so why would he want a continuing resolution well normally it's because we're all saying because he's going to do exactly the same thing that everybody else is doing.
But Donald Trump knows the country doesn't survive if we don't change this behavior.

If we don't get the debt and the deficit under control, if we don't cut spending, we're in trouble.

And he said exactly that.

Yeah.

We won't make it.

And he knows that.

And, you know, let's just say it's selfish.

I don't believe it is with him. You know, maybe 10 years ago, I would have said, oh, because all he cares about is his reputation.
No, he actually loves this country and he cares about the people in it. He wants to see people succeed.
You may not believe that if you don't like Donald Trump, that's fine. You don't have to.
But just watch what is going on. So for anybody who is with Thomas Massey and I'm with Thomas I love Thomas Massey but I don't think I would have voted with Thomas Massey this time I think I would have voted for the president for a couple of reasons one give the president the benefit of the doubt he's earned it at this point two, if you look at why would Donald Trump want a continuing resolution? What does that do? Okay.
A, benefit of the doubt. What was announced yesterday about the Department of Education? 50% cut in jobs.
What? A 50%?

Yeah.

50%?

They are cutting the Department of Education.

For anybody who said, he's never going to do that.

Everybody promises.

Well, he just did. Now, he can't get rid of all of it because Congress has to do that.

But he can cut, gut 50% of it and do it in a reasonable way. Linda McMahon said, we can't just fire everybody.
We have to have the staff. We are so bloated.
We're so in so many things that we don't deserve to be in. But we have to make sure that the money does get back to the schools and to the states until we can get rid of this abomination of this Department of Education.
So he's cut now 50 percent. That goes into his favor.
He wants to cut. All right.
So a clean CR, that's a continuing resolution, used to be called a budget. We used to have to make one just like you have to make one

every month and every year. You make a budget and you live by the budget or you die by the not adhering to the budget.
Well, when Barack Obama came in in 2008, he decided, you know what, we don't need to do the budget thing anymore. We're just going to call it a continuing resolution, which just really just okays a big pile of money.
And then all of the people in the, did I say deep state? No, I didn't. All the good employees in the government can just spend it the way they want.
So what a clean CR means, they're not adding anything to it. A clean CR maintains the current funding levels without any spending increases.
So there's, except for non-discretionary, there is no more spending. That's what he's asking for.
No more spending. Okay.
And a full budget that typically comes with all kinds of compromises, and everybody comes on the gravy train and they're like, yeah, I'll cut that.

But I really want this. OK, and then if it's an official budget, then everything is in stone and it makes everything harder to get rid of temporarily.
I think what Trump is doing is he's saying, give me a continuing, a clean continuing resolution right now so I can go in and I can cut this by 50 percent. I'll show the American people that we are making cuts.
I will. I'll make these big, bold moves.
You don't have to do anything. But in the fall, when it starts to look good and people are not panicking so much, then you can go in and make these things permanent with an official budget.
To me, that makes sense. Also, there is something called impoundment.
This is where I needed grok, so let me just read this. Impoundment, refusing to spend allocated funds or rescission, requesting Congress to cancel funds.
These are tactics mentioned in ex post and past statements of Donald Trump. A CR is temporary nature and lack of specificity makes it easier to withhold spending on certain line items, especially if Congress grants flexibility.
The official budget, a full budget, details mandatory and discretionary spending with legal obligations making it harder to impound those funds the president in a cr can go yeah i'm not going to spend that i'm not going to spend that because nothing has truly been passed by congress this is just an add-on from an add-on from an add-on from an add-on from 2008. So he can go, yeah, until we get down to a budget, I'm not spending any of that.
That gives the power to the president, which I am against long-term. I want to see the president reduce the presidential power, reduce the power of the administration and the administrative state, and give that power back to Congress.
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Station ID. Okay, so the impact of the CER with the impoundment and rescission power, what that does is it allows the president to shrink the size of government operations short term, pausing any non-essential programs that will reduce the deficits, which does not mean Congress has to act right away.
But if you have a budget, it's going to require Congress to act on everything. So he's I think what he's saying is give me the runway.
Let me show people that this is, you know, I cut half the staff, the Department of Education and their kids aren't going to be stupid, aren't going to be more stupid than they already are.

OK, also a continuing resolution avoids because if you avoid a long term budget, it delays new borrowing or program expansions that will increase the debt that you can't take back. An official budget does that.
So a continuing resolution can, and this is what I'm hoping the president is doing, can limit debt growth temporarily. It also gives him all of that power while the while Republicans are preparing a reconciliation bill possible after a budget resolution that can cut taxes and and spending with a simple majority.
This is key strategy this year. He has to pass these things.
And that's what rescission will do in a CR. It will allow for a simple majority.
So there's no none of the filibusters or anything else so he can move because honestly, you know this and I know this. If you don't like tariffs and I've told the president over and over again, I'm not a fan of tariffs, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Okay. He knows.
Believe me. He said it to me.
He knows this has got to work, and it's got to work fast. So he knows the clock is ticking on him.
So he's not doing this and saying, I'm just going to keep playing the game because he likes the country, loves the country, really respects the people in the country, the business of the

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He was a billionaire. He might leave office at, you know, like, I.
You know, he's not leaving a billionaire. He was a billionaire.

He might leave office at, you know, like, I don't know, 800 millionaire.

Because this one's costing him.

So give him the benefit of the doubt. And let's not shoot Thomas Massey for standing on principle.

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So, you know, trying to lay out for you what I think Donaldald trump is doing and look i i don't know um you know he's he's much smarter than i am anybody who thinks this guy is not smart is you are crazy at this point um he is he is running circles around some of the greatest minds around And if you've looked at his cabinet there are a few in there that i'd like to hear your opinion on this that i think could have been in with our founders oh yeah i mean yeah he's got brilliant he's got really good people this uh elon musk is benjamin franklin yeah easy easy yeah that's the same kind of mind that benjamin franklin was and, oh, that doesn't happen. Well, it kind of has again right now.
Right. And you and I and everybody who's listening to me, unless you're somebody who's listening going, I'm just trapped in the hospital.
And they left it on the Glenn Beck program. I hate it.
Unless you're that person, everybody listening to me, we all know this is our last shot. We almost lost the country.
We have four years. That's why we hired this guy.
And the last thing I feel I can do, you might be different, but the last thing I feel I can do is micromanage this guy because he's earned my respect and my trust and you know you look at

the debt ceiling i don't want to raise the debt ceiling because that's what we always do

but what he's saying is don't shut the government down because then it'll cause chaos and everybody

in the media will do the chaos and they're already saying chaos because i'm cutting all these people

please just keep it running to minimize the chaos calls and then i will make up those cuts

Let's not. He knows better.
Unless he's so dumb that he thinks that we can continue to spend and print money like this without massive growth.

And he knows better than knows better than that.

We can't afford the interest rates next year.

Yeah, we just can't. We'll be out of business.

So he's saying, keep think, just give me time.

I need the first year.

I need all of the tools.

Give me time.

Now, maybe I'm stupid.

I mean, I try to... give me time i need the first year i need all of the tools give me time now maybe i'm stupid i mean i trust cash patel i don't know pam bondy so i can't say i trust pam bondy i don't know her doesn't mean i don't trust her but i don't know and at first i was really upset because i know i know cash had every intention of releasing the epstein stuff and I know people now who are like see you can't trust any of them well now wait hang on maybe maybe not can we give people the benefit of the doubt of a little bit of time because let me just and this is purely pulling this out of my butt and I might be lying to to myself.
And I'd love to hear from you, Pat. I mean, because maybe I'm just deluding myself because I want this to be true, but I don't think so.
Kash Patel has always struck me as a straight shooter and determined to do what he says he's going to do, what he believes is right and righteous and ethical. You agree with that? Yes.
Okay. So I know he said, because he said to me, I'm going to reveal all of that.
And then he doesn't. And it gets all in this weird trap with Pam Bondi.
And I don't know what happened there. I don't think that was cash.
I think that was Pam Bondi. Now, I don't want to assign nefarious things to her because I don't know her.
And I don't think Donald Trump, I mean, Donald Trump hired her to root these things out. So there's two things that could be happening.
One, everybody is corrupt and having sex parties with children. I just don't believe that.
I don't believe that those are the people that have been on the campaign trail with Donald Trump around many good friends of mine who are deeply religious and have pretty good insight. You know what I mean? If you're sleeping with children, I don't know, maybe, maybe not.
But I think you probably would be able to tell really a dark individual. You know what I mean? If you have spiritual eyes.
And I just don't believe that's happening. So are they covering for people? That's the next logical thing to get to.
And maybe. But let me give you a third option.
And that third option is Kash Patel gets in at the FBI and he's remember during the first administration when he was in, he was surrounded by enemies and he couldn't do anything. Even if If he did release stuff, no one in the DOJ was going to prosecute.

Nobody. by enemies and he couldn't do anything even if he did release stuff no one in the doj was going to prosecute nobody was going to do anything so cash comes in with this attitude built over eight years of nobody getting the bad guys nobody even telling you who the bad guys are but even if you do know who the bad guys are nobody does anything about it and so he says in the lead up i'm going to release it on day one i'm going to as soon as i get in i'm releasing it is it possible that when he got to that pam who is his partner remember he's the police force she's the Perry Mason.
Okay. So she's the one that the police force brings all the information.
And then she's the one that says, wait, I got to make a case on this. Okay.
And if the police blow all of the evidence and tell everybody everything that's in it, then the district attorney, or in her case, the attorney general, has a harder time, perhaps, making the case. Cash comes in so used to no one being willing to do anything.
It's the attitude of the first administration. Just take the walls and blow them up.
Throw hand grenades and expose whatever you can because nothing's going to be done about it. Perhaps, maybe, he comes in and he's ready to do that and Pam comes and says, wait, wait, wait.
You will hurt. It's one thing to expose want it here's your choice do you want everyone to know all of the names or do you want everyone to know all the names as i file cases against them to put them in jail that's the one i would choose i like that explanation i don't am i deluding am i am fooling myself? I don't think so, because he's already done so much so quickly.
Who? The president. The president.
And he's put the people that he believes will continue his agenda, which is to do even more. And I think Kash Patel is one of those people.
He's one of those people, and Donald Trump would have no time for people who are molesting children. None.
None. Believe that 100%.
None. So, like you said, I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt.
Because he's done so much more than I thought he would do. And I thought he'd do a lot, but he's done so much more already than I thought he would do.

Yesterday, cutting the Department of Education

by 50%?

I didn't think it was possible.

I didn't either.

Not possible.

Right.

I mean, he said he was going to end

the Department of Education.

I thought, yeah, okay, that, I mean,

it's a noble goal, but it's not going to happen.

And I believed he thought he could do it.

Yes, I do too.

Because I can't tell you how many times he said we're gonna do it but he's on the path to doing it he's already done 50 of what he promised that's huge and that's what that's all he can do yeah now it's up to congress and these weasels in congress to make sure that we codify that otherwise all of this of this goes back to the way it was. But I think what he's doing is he is step-by-step showing you, look, you can survive without the Department of Education.
You can survive as a country doing good without doing evil through USAID. You can have the tax cuts that I need to pour fuel into the fire.
I mean, we're an engine. Our economy is an engine.
If you starve an engine of fuel, it ain't going to go anywhere. If you starve it from air, you're not not going to go anywhere you need both of those things and our engine has got to have tax cuts and regulation and time we have to take the regulation down that will say oh okay i can actually build a business i can actually do something without the federal government telling me I need a 25 year study for the the bed lice that I might be killing when I, you know, when I burn this hotel down and start a new one.
So you need the end of the regulation and you also need the tax cuts for those people who can spend the money to create jobs.

You need both of those things.

But his problem is we also need a reduction in spending.

Here's the problem.

No one is spending right now.

Notice he's brought in what a trillion dollars of foreign money coming in to rebuild businesses and everything else over a trillion dollars. One point seven is what he says.
I can verify a trillion, but he says it's one point seven trillion dollars that he's brought in. That again is cash.
That's fuel for the engine. Other than the foreign cash, because you haven't had a tax cut yet, because the entrepreneurs have not had a reduction in regulation yet.

They are still sitting there waiting to go.

I've got ideas.

When can I actually trust that I can do these things and not be slaughtered? That's still to come. And so the problem is if he cuts what the government is spending right now, because that's the thing that is moving.

That's what's pouring fuel into the engine right now. All our tax dollars.
It's just it's it's spraying dollars in all kinds of places. We don't want it to spray dollars in.
But that's what's moving our GDP. That's what's, you know, creating very short term growth.
And so he's got to cut that while cutting spending, cutting the debt and deficit, cutting regulations, getting foreigners to come in, which is why he's doing the tariffs. Boy, as I'm explaining this, the guy is freaking brilliant.
Yeah. I mean, this is a juggler that is juggling eight different things, a candlestick, a chainsaw, a serial killer, a child molester, you know, AI.
I mean, he's just juggling all these things that no juggler could keep these balls up in the air. But I think he's planned this for four solid years.
Yeah. Ever since he lost, this has been his goal to get back and do it right this time and with the right people around him.
I'm going back because I'd like to make this case to Thomas Massey. And I understand why Thomas May.
He's promised his voters, I will never do that. So he had no choice unless he wants to betray and become a politician that says one thing and then goes in and does another.
I love Thomas Massey, but I'd like to make this case to Thomas and here to see what he has to say about it. I understand, but this has to be done exactly right or it all collapses.
And I don't want to it you never get anywhere by committee never this guy has the plan he's executing it so far it's going really well um we know this is our last chance we know we trusted this guy if you voted for him you trusted him enough to do it we've all been saying we need to run this country like a business or we're going to go out of business well here's the greatest businessman we have surrounded by other great businessmen who are not just in it like like biden and everybody was you know for black rock and money in the banks and everything else they're actual actual business people that understand America has been a great gift to them.

The free market is great.

They're not trying to change the free market.

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I just, I think Thomas is actually right for him, but wrong this time because of who Donald Trump is and what he's trying to do. Could be wrong.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

John, who is. All right.

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Glenn, Massey is right.

Do the 12 separate bills so shutdown is off the table and spending can be adjusted down to cut the fraud that Dogege found okay i john i love you respect you i don't know i'm not saying i'm right i just where i was really upset last week me too um but i think the more i think about it the more i think anyway uh kind writes in glenn that's not 100 true massey did vote for a cr that cut spending but it didn't pass look at the record okay sorry you know kind that wasn't very uh if you'd like to chime in uh with all the great blaze tv family all you have to do is go to blaze tv.com uh slash glenn promo code glenn you're gonna save 30 today today is is a great day to join because of what I have coming up tonight. In this packet, we haven't even had a chance to talk about it.
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Really, really wise. Just so far ahead of most people on AI.
And we are going to have a fascinating conversation. If he has anything, my part won't be so fascinating.
But if he has something to do, it's going to be a fascinating conversation and one that you really need to listen to and absorb. We've been talking about it, you know, for, I've been talking about this for 30 years and it's here.
In the last few weeks, I've been saying you've got to start using it and playing with it, first of all, and seeing its weaknesses, its strength. And if you don't, you're going to be left so far in the dust that I don't know if you'll catch up.
And there's, you know, what I like to call, you know, Elon Musk says it's a singularity where we merge with man and machine. You know, to me, that's my Amish moment where I'm like, uh-uh, I don't want to go there.
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From the podcast, All In, executive producer and co-host jason calicanis jason welcome how are you it's good to be with you again nice to hear from yeah it's uh it's great to have you on i you know i think people are starting to wake up to things that you know i i I woke up to AI when I read Ray Kurzweil's Age of Spiritual Machines back in the 90s. And that thing freaked me out so much.
I'm like, ooh, wait, if this isn't fiction, we're in for a whole new world. And as I've been watching it come closer and closer and faster and faster, you know, Elon Musk said we're at the edge of the event horizon of the singularity.
That means we're right up next to it, about to be sucked into it and not being able to turn around. Things in the next 48 months, I think, are going to look entirely different to most people, and that's just the beginning.
Would you agree with that? Yeah, and arguably, you know, in my day job, I'm not just a podcast, I also angel invest in startup companies, about 100 a year. And so I get to have approximately 20,000 people apply for funding from my venture fund.
And startups always are resource constrained, right? Two or three people in a garage with just a tiny amount of money or no money. So they actually use technology to build these companies and they always go for the most efficient thing.
And what we've seen is over the last two years since ChatGPT launched to the public in the 3.5 format is the same companies that took 10 people and a half million dollars to get a product to market. It's now being done by three people.
So about 70% less people. And then if you were to look at some of the top technology companies, that's the next group who embraces this technology first.
They're not as scrappy as startups, but they're tech companies. So, you know, they get a front row seat to the technology.
And if you were to look at the number of employees at Google, Uber, Airbnb, Meta, which makes Facebook and Instagram, they have the same number of employees when they peaked in 2021, 2022 was their peak employee account. They now have either the same number of employees or slightly less in those companies, but they've grown their revenue 20, 30, 40% a year, which means they're not adding team members to companies that have quite literally hundreds of billions of dollars in their bank accounts.
And they could as many people as they want and we we watched them do that right they would add thousands sometimes tens of thousands of employees in a year and now they're not adding anyone so something's happening here and most people don't know what it is so and i can explain it more in detail but i'm just giving you those two anchors to say this has been going on for the last 24, 36 months in my world, and it's about to hit the community here in your program's world in a major way over the next five. So let me because I think in some ways and correct me if I'm wrong, I think the lead is being buried on what you just said.

They all those companies are operating at the same levels, making more, same levels, but they now all are in this gear of existential threat. If we're not the one that gets there first, we're out.
And in any other time period, you would be throwing money left and right at this. You'd be throwing people into this.
And for them to not be growing the people when they're under this existential threat where they know we've got to be first, that shows you, to me, that shows you the power of this tool already. Yeah, it's an interesting insight.
What's happening, in fact, is AI is really good at replacing certain jobs today or making a person using AI be able to do the work of 10 people, five people, three people. And so what companies are doing is, I call it the ADD framework, automate, deprecate, delegate.
It turns out many companies are doing things they don't need to do anymore. We're seeing that with Doge and our government, right? So that's deprecate.
You just stop doing something. Delegating, it means there's a workforce around the world that gets paid between one and let's call it $30 an hour for clerical work, for knowledge work, for white collar work, for people with college degree work.
It turns out the people working in a place like Manila in the Philippines, where we have a company called Athena that provides kind of like an executive assistant. And that company can provide an executive assistant who is in an MBA program in Manila for $3,000 a month, $36,000 a year, compared to the United States where that same person would get paid $70,000, $80,000, $90,000, $100,000, not from the Ivy League, but from an average school.
And then there's automate. It turns out if you're an executive at a Google, at a meta, the time it takes to hire a person, to train a person, to deal with the nature of humans, which is we're annoying, we're complicated, we show up late, we have attitudes, we want to raise, we want there to be matcha in the cafe at Google or whatever it is, and soy milk and nut milk and whatever it is.
We're annoying. So managers are saying, you know what? These employees are so damn annoying and they want all these things that human wants.
Let's just take six weeks to automate this thing. Now, because AI allows you to automate things at a scary rate, like a really fast rate, it's actually less than hiring a new person.
Now, they will hire a PhD in computer science to work on AI. Those hirings are still going on.
But the static team size is going to continue. And I am absolutely convinced we are going to, for young people, you know, I moved to Austin.
I know you're in Dallas, so we'll have to get lunch at some point or maybe we'll come down to the studio. But I've been speaking at UT.
In fact, I spoke there two weeks in a row. And the students are like, hey, I'm going to go work at big tech.
I'm going to visit the MBA program there. It's quite a good program.
I'm going to go work at this big consulting firm. They make six figures.
And I said, you know, you're not. I need to break it to you.
Those jobs aren't going to be there. So young people are starting to realize, wait a second, I don't have five offers from big tech and three from consulting firms and two from investment banks coming out of MBA programs.
Graduate programs in business administration are coming out with, you know, half the number of

offers, 10% of the number of offers they would normally get. There's your canary in the coal

mine. And so what I've been doing with those kids, and it's quite self-serving, is saying,

start, you got to be ready to start a company. You have to be resilient.
You have to have grit.

You got to have self-reliance, executive function, leadership skills. You're not going to just work

somewhere for five or 10 years, and they're going to spoon feed you how to be productive. You know, that's the one thing I've been saying to the audience, you know, I've been saying this for a long time.
There's going to come a time where every two to five years, you're just, you're going to be doing something entirely different. You're going to have to retrain yourself all the time.
You have to stay mentally nimble to be able to enter and stay working because this is not going to last. Nothing's going to last.
And there will be new things that come along, but everybody's going to have to completely retrain over and over and over again. That's just the way life is going to be, I think.
And I feel like we're at that first turning point where soon a majority of people or a large segment of the population is going to go, wait a minute, wait a minute, my job is out and they're not going to hire anybody like me again. And you're going to have to retrain.
And those people who are not willing to be nimble, stay nimble, stay mentally agile and willing to change like that, you're going to kind of go into, I hate saying this, but Harari's, what does he say, useless people or useless class, which is terrifying. Yeah, I'll give you some good news.
I know this has probably been a little scary for some members of it. If you use these tools, you are infinitely valuable in creating companies or working at the Glenn Beck show, working at any company.
And so anytime your boss asks you to do something, say, hey, listen, I need a report. Here's what the report needs to have.
You literally can go into ChatGPT and Gemini and you can ask it that question. And then you can just say, well, what questions would my boss ask me? Or how would they judge me on my job? And you can basically get a free coach on how to use these tools.
And anybody who, you know, has had the experience of going, wow, my dishwasher is not working. And instead of calling a plumber, goes to YouTube and types in my, you know, blank brand, you know, is not working.
It's giving an error of 62. And it says, oh, yeah, you know, you just need to clear this and flip this fuse and you're back in the game.
And they do it and they feel, oh, I'm self-reliant. Right.
Because of YouTube, because every question has been asked on YouTube. Now take that and times it by a million.
That's what these chat GPTs can do right now. You can literally take a picture of the broken thing, say, what is this? I did it with one of my tractors here on the ranch.
I said, what the heck's going on here? How does this work? I don't have the manual for this tractor. And man, it just figured it all out for me.
And now I don't have to call Tractor Supply to come out for a thousand bucks and fix the tractor. That opportunity is right there.
So the person who's going to take your job right now is going to be a person using AI. And the person who will be the last person standing at the company is the person who knows the tools best.
The tools are free to 20 bucks a month. And if you use and embrace the tools, what we're talking about this continuous professional development, you alluded to it as, Hey, I got to do retraining every two to five years.
It's actually even a little bit more intense than that. You have to be using these every day, getting incrementally better daily.
And if you do that, you're invaluable. So that's the silver lining.
So Jason, I've been trying to explain this to my staff because I, you know, AI is, it's a tool, like a shovel. It's a tool.
And if you don't know how to use that tool, this is the first tool that will learn how to use you and if you are

trying to if you're trying if you're a lazy employee and you're like wait a minute this thing can make me i could be done in 25 minutes with my job and i can go screw off the rest of the day you're going to lose your job because you'll just ai will just replace you but if you're somebody who is an imaginary thinker, who is aggressive, who wants to expand, wants to do things, you're going to have it do. It's like giving somebody a step.
For my researchers, they each have a staff of about 20 people now. I have the same experience on my podcast.
I will say to the person, hey, go find me other subjects like this person. What were they saying in the 80s? Go find, you know, Jason Calacanis, you know, on Charlie Rose, take that link, put it on and summarize it in bullet points and then give that to the host.
So a very simple thing I did, you know, when you open a new browser window, right, you hit the command tab or whatever, you open a new window. It shows you like some marketing, depending on the browser you're using.
Some news stories that they try to intercept and get some clicks and make some money, whether it's Google's browser or Microsoft's, whoever's it is. There was a little tool called tab override.
When you open a new tab, I set it to all my employees. I bought them the chat GPT for 20 bucks.
Now we're experimenting with Gemini, Google's offering, and Elon's offering Grok.

All of them are just spectacular.

When they open a new tab, it opens right into the large language model, ChatGPT, Grok, or Gemini.

So every time, instead of going to Google and doing a search, or instead of asking your boss,

I've never done that before. Right.
How do I do that? You say, I've never done this before. My boss wants me to do it.
How can I look spectacular and valuable to my boss? Just ask the damn LLM. So, you know, we're on broadcast radio have been...
We're on broadcast radio, so watch your language. Just watch your language.
We're on broadcast radio. Oh, okay, sorry.
That's all right. Gosh darn.
Gosh darn. So, Jason, the...
I think that when people understand and they still look at it as yes this someday could eat us all um you know when we get to asi and and everything else i mean it could go wrong and you know uh and

it could be used for nefarious things but it's still a tool that will allow you to learn in ways

that you've never learned.

If you're looking for something to take a shortcut,

you don't understand the power of this tool.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, 100%.

And, you know, the interesting thing is every time a new technology comes along,

and this is what we're grappling with in our industry,

is when these new tools come along,

we have this hand-wringing,

okay, all the jobs are going to go away,

and they're never coming back,

whether it's the internet being able to answer anybody's question,

you know, or the personal computer in the 80s

being able to do Microsoft Office

and all those associated tasks.

Humans are clever.

We find new work. We find new work.

We find new ideas.

If you look at our business, you know, our line of work, broadcasting, you know, we went

from a handful of broadcasters to then, you know, cable TV, dozens of broadcasters, hundreds,

radio, syndicated radio, internet radio, you know, and now on to podcasting and YouTube

channels.

So we will see many, many new jobs emerge if you learn how to do the tools. And one of the things you can do with these tools is you can just sit straight up, say to it, I need to learn this task every day.
I want you to help me get better at being a copywriter, at being, you know, a script writer, at being a graphic designer. Make a curriculum for me,

test me every day and motivate me. And it will actually do weird stuff like that, like be your

tutor. And kids are seeing this.
Kids are doing tutorials. You ask it, hey, I have to read War

and Peace. I have to read Animal Farm.
Quiz me. And you can put it on voice mode.
So I was dropping

my daughter off at school and she had a book she had read, but she had read it earlier and she was

having a hard time remembering the names of the characters. I opened up in voice, got my eyes on

I'm not. So I was dropping my daughter off at school, and she had a book she had read, but she had read it earlier, and she was having a hard time remembering the names of the characters.

I opened up in voice, got my eyes on the road, although I was using the self-driving, keeping me in the lane.

And I said, hey, quiz my 15-year-old daughter on the characters in this book.

And she just talked to the AI for the 10 minutes on the way there, and it was better than finding a $100 an hour tutor. It's amazing.
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And don't forget to use the promo code Glenn for $30 off your subscription at blazetv.com slash Glenn. with uh jason calcanis um who is an angel investor uh deep um tech investor uh it knows about ai what's coming in the future how to use it uh Also a podcaster on the All In podcast.
If you've never listened to that, it's a fantastic podcast. Jason, I want to talk to you about, we've got about 12 minutes here, and I want to talk to you about, I'm writing a handbook for my own team internally and I don't know if it'll ever be finished but I'm writing a handbook for my own team internally, and I don't know if it'll ever be finished, but I'm looking for the ethics of AI.
And there's so many different things because it goes really deep ethically. But starting at the shallow end, I talk to people all the time who are afraid, well, wait a minute, I don't want to outsource my reason.
I'm like, well, you don't have to if you're paying attention, but I don't know a lot of people are going to pay attention to these things. And they'll just have it do all of its thinking.
Do you have any thoughts on that and what's going to happen with people? I mean, it's like not everybody's an everybody's an entrepreneur. Some people just, you know, want to go, you know, do their eight hours and go home and that's fine.
But some people are going to want to just have it do its work. What, what happens at that point? Yeah.
So, um, the paradigm shift has already occurred. And so for those people who dream of a world where they can punch in and out and keep their head down, that's over.
And so I don't suggest tempting the fates because people will find out. And so for an employer like yourself, you can very easily look at a dashboard when you buy the software and see who's using it.
You can also tell everybody, hey, I want you to share your, every time we have a discussion, I want you to share what you asked ChatGPT, what we call a prompt. So when you do a search, that's a query.
When you do something on ChatGPT, you construct a prompt. So what you say is, listen, I'm Glenn Beck.
This is the Glenn Beck Show. Everybody on the team goes into the chat room every day.
We have one dedicated for prompts. Whatever you're working on, I want you to share what you asked, whatever LLM you're using, Gemini, Grok, Claude, or of course, ChatGPT.
I want you to share the link in there and you can just put, hey, I was doing research on advertisers. I was doing research on this guest.
And here's what I asked. And then they can just start a thread about it.
If anybody doesn't participate, resignation has been accepted. So you have to just take a little bit of a doge-like approach, Glenn.
I have a sense that you have a big heart. And you need to unleash your inner Elon.
What did you accomplish? Five bullet points. And if you don't do it, well, then you have resigned.
And I know this might be shocking to folks, but it's actually kind because all you're doing is asking somebody to take ownership of being productive in the world. And we have a generation or two of people with what's called learned helplessness.
They don't believe that they can be bionic superheroes. They don't believe that they can be effective because their whole life they were given participation, pro fees and coddled.
Welcome to the real world. Your job is in Manila.
Your job is in India. Your job has been automated by AI.
Now you have to fight to get it back. That's actually what's happening.
We just live in a delusion. And a lot of people live in a delusion that mommy and daddy and the system are going to come save them.
What a harsh wake up call from where we've been in the last 20 years. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. I mean, it's over.
It's over. Glenn, I am seeing companies hit in the early stage $1 million per employee.
So when a founder figures out, hey, I can have a 10 person company with 10 million in revenue, then they go, wait a second. Every time I get rid of an employee, there's a million dollars more in profit.
And once you see that click, and it clicked for the CEOs of Meta, Zuckerberg never laid anybody off. He never did a layoff.
And then he was like, wait a second, there's a bunch of people phoning it in. Let me try cutting 10,000 people.
Oh, the company's running better. And the annoying people are gone.
I'm going to cut another 10,000. And he went into berserker mode.
The company continued to grow. The people who were left over enjoyed it.
Wake up, people. This is what's happening.
The train has left the station. You're not on it.
You got to race to the next train station. And if you don't make it to the next train station, it's going to express from that point forward.
This is your final chance. Get in the car, race to the next train station, use GPT, not every day, all day.
It should be on your screen right now. You should be asking every single question your boss asks you to all four of them and then say, I think my boss is going to fire me because I didn't do a good enough job on these three tasks.
How can I get better at it? Because by the way, that's what your boss is thinking. There's two or three people working there at the Glenn Beck show who aren't pulling their weight.
Glenn's giving you the message right now. Get on the train or maybe, maybe you're not right for this.
You know, other people who want the job. So here's, may I express something differently than you just expressed when you're saying, you know, I make a million dollars and I cut people.
My thought, and maybe this is wrong, but I think my thought has been, you know, I don't necessarily, I have a small staff already, but I don't necessarily want to pare it down. I want to do more.
So I'm approaching this with, look, you can turbo your day and get all of this stuff done in a fraction of the time, which leaves all this time open so we can now do the things that we've only talked about or dreamt about. We can do these things and we can we can make our quality 10 times better is is that there's a no no that's a great strategy okay that's a great strategy too i'm i'm scaring them and then you're giving them the carrots so we're one two right now okay carrot okay i'm gonna stick on the desk you're showing the carrot all right that's how we're going to do it.
All right. We're going to set up PD, professional development.
You're going to buy some pizza, some sushi, whatever the gang likes. Maybe you've got some good barbecue in there in Dallas.
I don't think it's as good as here in Austin. I am.
It is what it is. You don't know.
So you get what you can get. And you say, you know what? We're going to 5 to 7 o'clock.
We're doing a little PD session, professional development. Everybody come.
You got five minutes to show how you're using a different tool. And then everybody will ask you questions.
We got 10 team members. It's going to be 10 minutes each.
It's 100 minutes working dinner. And so Friday night, Monday night, whatever you pick, make it painful, make it, you know, get people's attention.
And then you carve out time for professional development. The problem with managers like us, because we're Gen Xers, I think, or Gen Xer like me.
Yeah. We were latchkey kids.
We were feral. Right.
Our parents were like, you know, when I grew up in Brooklyn, hey, it's 8 a.m. Get the hell out of the house and you can come back when the street lights go on.
Exactly right. 738 o'clock.
Yep. So you got 12 hours of feral Brooklyn boys running around, you know, surviving.
These kids are different. They're cut different.
You got to give them a little bit of space and say, we're going to do professional development. We're all going to get into a room.
Everybody's going to stop working on what they're working on. And you create that moment for them to know this is the, because if our boss told us, hey, I want you to do this, you'd be like, well, we better fricking do it or else we're out.
And so we would go do it. This generation's like, ah, you know what? I failed my history class and they did an intervention and they asked me what was feeling, and why I didn't get the assignment on time, and were there any accommodations?

Yeah, my staff knows that.

Those questions are coming.

Accommodations.

You hear about accommodations?

I know.

You know about this?

Oh, my God.

Accommodation.

You know what the accommodation I got at Severian High School?

They'd smack you on the back of the head and tell you to go to jug. That's right.
Judgment under God. Detention for two hours after school.
No accommodation. So I'm asking you to give these poor kids on the Glenn Beck staff a little accommodation.
They're used to it. A little bit of food.
And hey, we're going to sit here and do nothing but sharpen our blades. We're going to stop being samurais in the world.
Everybody bring your sword, two hours of sharpening our blades, and then tomorrow we're back at the job.

So let me take it. I'd love to have you for a podcast.
We'll bring you up for a podcast because

I could talk to you for hours and hours. Let me just take you to this one place that

in 2010, I think, I did a podcast with Ray Kurzweil and I love Ray.

He's both the most fascinating guy alive and the most terrifying guy I've ever met because he just he looks at things wildly different than I do.

He told me, I don't know, 2005.

He's like, Glenn, all you have to do is live till 2030 and then there will be no death. And then when I understood what he meant by that, I'm like, that's not really life.
You know, downloading me into a computer is that's not alive, which brings me to one of the things that I've been arguing with, with, with Grock is if I can't prove there is a soul now, but I believe there is. Did you hear the podcast last week from the New York times where the woman was in love with, I don't know, chat GPT.
Did you hear that? I didn't, but this is an ongoing trend. Yeah.
There's a company character AI, which makes like Marvel characters or whatever.

And they have to ban kids because it's so addictive.

Right.

And so, yeah, if your kids are using Character AI or if you have access to your home router, probably want to stop that.

Yeah.

Because, you know, just like kids can get addicted to the Internet, Reddit, video games, this actually thing is going to be very pernicious with girls because maybe they're not as inclined to play Call of Duty, but they might want to play, you know, relationship based games. And this is like a relationship based game.
It's like a soap opera where you can kind of bond with it. And I get pitched on young people who want to create like a therapist with AI.
I'm like, are you crazy? I know. I know.
Lord, like anything,

no,

no,

no,

no.

Anything that,

um,

morphizes,

is that right?

The empathic,

anything that,

anything that makes this more human,

like scares the hell out of me because people have got to understand it's not

human.

And those lines are going to be blurred so quickly. Um um and then that opens up a whole new thing like what is life what does it mean to be a human and when ray said you know we were talking about the singularity at one point and i said to him um ray i don't want to be merged with man and machine and he said but you won't be able said, Glenn, and I mean this in a clinical sense, you'll be retarded.
You'll be a danger to the rest of society. And I said, well, I would like to have my flaws and all.
I'd like to be able to log on, but I don't want to merge with it. At least that's where I am at now.
And he said, well, everybody will have to. I mean, and they'll all want to, and it'll be cheap.
That's a scary place for a lot of people. Are you looking at this? And, I mean, do we have to go Amish if we don't want to be part of the Borg in some future date? You know, it's going to be, I think, one of these situations that will wake us up to our humanity.
I'm an optimist. Because it's going to be so good at the rote tasks that we do every day, the things that I'll put in the category of chores, which are annoying, but, you know, essential to get through life.
When the chores start going away and, you know, hey, the dishwasher did it. I just had to unload and load it.
You know, like that's actually the chore now, loading and unloading the dishwasher. I mean, when we were kids, like when I was old, like we actually had to clean the dishes.
dishes. These kids are complaining about putting them in the dishwasher.
Like, really? It takes 90 seconds, bro. So chores will go away.
What that does is it opens up space for other things. And the question is, what do we do with the time we've been given, as Gandalf says in The Lord of the Rings? It always struck me as a really important thing to consider in this enlightenment the canonical the perfect you know pilot, driver ranch hand researcher, it's going to exist in AI, we're already seeing it happen you know when certain planes fly you know 90% of their miles perfectly with an AI.
It's been that way for some time. What that does is it lets us have more time.
And what do you choose to do at that time becomes the question. And I've become super thoughtful about that.
I have three daughters and now I've just made a list of what are the great joyful things you can do. One of the things I did was move to a ranch in Austin.
One of the things we do is horseback riding. One of the things we do is we play board games.
So you're going to be given an amazing gift, T-I-M-E. And if you spell out those letters, what a child hears when you spell out T-I-M-E is L-O-V-E.
Time with your children, with your friends is love and joy. So take this incredible bounty.
Get your job done faster than your boss could ever imagine it. Run your business 10 times better.
Take your kids skiing. Take them out for ice cream.
If you go to church, you can go to church. If you go on hikes and that's your church, do that.
Whatever your jam is. Just don't invest it in screen time.
Turn the screens off, turn the internet off at 9 p.m. I played Clue with my eight-year-olds.
It's a little above their pay grade, but man, did we laugh and have a fun time. I haven't seen a Clue board game in 40 years.
Jason, I hear my voice right now and your kids are addicted to this stuff. Stack the phone, stack the iPads, get a board game out, play a board game for an hour or two and just watch how, how perfect humans are in quickly adapting to joy and love.
That's the opportunity. Jason, I'm sorry to cut you off.
I've got another network break, but I

just want you to know I'm a huge fan

and I really appreciate your time

and I'd love to have you back up for a podcast.

Thank you so much for spending the time.

Jason Calacanis,

you can hear him every day in the All In

podcast. Okay.

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