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As President Trump’s trade war with China intensifies, 130 countries seek to negotiate tariff reductions. The U.S. must balance economic pain with strategic goals to counter China's leverage. Could AOC and Bernie Sanders be on the 2028 Democratic ticket? Radical "journalist" Taylor Lorenz draws outrage for defending the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s alleged assassin. Stu's new favorite member of Congress, Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas), is under investigation for dozens of political contributions through the Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue. Stu and Pat discuss a potential presidential run for ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith: Is he the Democratic version of Donald Trump? Did the Los Angeles Lakers make a good decision picking Bronny James?
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Speaker 3 A lot going on. Of course, tariffs and tariff confusion continues.
A little retaliation from China to get into. And that and much more coming up.
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Speaker 3 So the tariff confusion kind of continues.

Speaker 3 There's a little bit of chaos. It feels a little chaotic right now, doesn't it? It does.

Speaker 3 It's so tough to know what's going on and whether you can trust the reporting

Speaker 3 on it and whether Trump is, you know, he's obviously got a

Speaker 3 plan here, but he's not necessarily letting us in on it.

Speaker 3 Like, you know,

Speaker 3 whatever it is, like

Speaker 3 he's just kind of, he's doing his thing, and we keep hearing reports of one thing happening and then reversing, and the rates go up and the rates go down. Yes.

Speaker 3 And I'm sure he's leading to something here, but we're not necessarily a party to it. Well, on Friday, Caroline Levitt delivered a message about

Speaker 3 tariffs and about illegals. We'll get into her

Speaker 3 comments coming up in a minute.

Speaker 3 Also,

Speaker 3 Kevin Hassett talked about, he's the National Economic Council director. And yesterday,

Speaker 3 he said that 130 countries have now come to the table to try to renegotiate with the United States of America.

Speaker 5 I didn't even know that.

Speaker 5 On the trade policy, the whole point of the trade policy is to address the national emergency that we're too dependent on foreign products in the U.S., especially if we were in a time of conflict.

Speaker 5 And we're doing something about that. And the reciprocal act was basically, guys, if you come to the table and negotiate with us and treat us the same way we treat you, then we'll

Speaker 5 get your rate really low. And so, right now,

Speaker 5 130 countries have responded and we're negotiating with them, and they've got their rate down to 10%.

Speaker 5 And so, really, it's kind of almost a two-world system. There's a process about China, and that's very, very nascent, if at all, and then the process for everybody else.

Speaker 5 So, the process for everybody else is orderly, it's clear. People are coming to town with great, great offers.
We've got Japan, Korea, India.

Speaker 5 I was just talking to the foreign minister of India, and everything is moving forward very quickly.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 So everything's fine. So we're all set.
Yeah, we're on that. On that one.

Speaker 3 Now, the way you said we're all set didn't seem like you really meant it. Is it too enthusiastic? Is that what you're all trying to get to? He's almost too enthusiastic.
I mean,

Speaker 3 Israel is a good example of this. They have a 0% tariff on us, and we're putting a a 10% tariff on them.

Speaker 3 And we're calling it reciprocal.

Speaker 3 That's not a reciprocal tariff.

Speaker 3 Well, because

Speaker 3 Netanyahu said a couple of weeks ago, we're going to remove all tariffs from American goods.

Speaker 3 If what he just said,

Speaker 3 Hassett said is true,

Speaker 3 like

Speaker 3 is that our, because he's saying that's our goal, but I just don't see if that's our

Speaker 3 if it's our goal, you'd think that someone lowering tariffs to 0% would be enough to

Speaker 3 move it to 0% for them, right? But that's not our goal, seemingly, as we don't seem to do those things. I know it has something to do with the

Speaker 3 trade imbalance. However, we also put 10% tariffs on countries that we have a trade surplus with.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So like I

Speaker 3 so again, it's a little confusing.

Speaker 3 There's this sort of dual track thing that they're trying to pull off here. And I don't, I wish I understood.
And here's the thing.

Speaker 3 Nobody voted for me for president of the united states zero votes i got pat zero oh that i looked it up no votes you did look it up yeah zero votes i haven't looked up my totals yet so you you got four votes i got four yeah it was me okay uh jackie uh-huh uh your wife i know that's not true you know

Speaker 3 no way my wife voted for me for president

Speaker 3 that ain't happening

Speaker 3 my wife wouldn't probably vote for me either uh but like you know i get that i i'm not in the white house i don't have all the insight that the President has or what the people around him have.

Speaker 3 Now, like, you know, I've talked to people who worked in the White House, worked with some of the people that you're hearing talking about these policies.

Speaker 3 Not necessarily fans of tariffs, a lot of them,

Speaker 3 but they're trying to execute the President's vision. And I think there are reasons that these policies can make sense, right? If the reason is to get it to 0%,

Speaker 3 that it could make sense. However, that doesn't exactly seem like

Speaker 3 our reason here.

Speaker 3 It doesn't. And also, if it is, then all the complaints you've made about wanting to get manufacturing jobs back to the United States don't really work.
Because if you get them to 0%,

Speaker 3 then tariffs don't bring jobs back to the United States if they're 0%.

Speaker 3 Right. So there's this dual-track thing.
I do think that Donald Trump's vision

Speaker 3 is not what he just said, what Hassett just said. It's not we want to get the, oh, we got to get 130 countries to come

Speaker 3 negotiate with us, and we're going to get these tariffs really low. Like, I don't know.
He's supported tariffs his entire life.

Speaker 3 No, he told Glenn, and Glenn has said this on the air multiple times, he loves tariffs. He loves them.
And he says it's his favorite word. It's not a joke.
He really does like them.

Speaker 3 He thinks they accomplish other things well, right? So he's trying to figure out whatever combination of factors he's got in his head to try to

Speaker 3 make this process come out in the best possible way for America. I don't think any of us have a doubt that that is his goal.

Speaker 3 He believes, whatever he believes the best outcome for America is, is something he's chasing.

Speaker 3 I don't always have that opinion, by the way, of our presidents. A lot of presidents I look at, I'm like,

Speaker 3 for instance, does Joe Biden even have America's interest in his mind at all? I don't know. It doesn't seem like it.
No. I totally think that's Donald Trump does have those interests.

Speaker 3 Just a matter of whether this works or not. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 And we've never been tariff fans. You and I.

Speaker 3 They're not big tariff people. It would be completely inauthentic for me to come on and tell you that these things are a great policy.
I'm just not a tax hike guy in almost every

Speaker 3 context, you know? And so it would be inauthentic for me to come on here, and I know you as well, and Glenn's talked about this as well. We have our opinions on these.
These are not new policy ideas.

Speaker 3 These are been around. People have been using them since the 1800s in

Speaker 3 wide use even in the United States. Including the United States.
Yeah. And, you know, look,

Speaker 3 that is, I guess, separate from what we're going through now. Like, I think, and I talked to people, I was talking to a guy, a friend of mine, who's kind of more of a tariff fan than I am, let's say.

Speaker 3 And he's supportive generally of the president's

Speaker 3 stated aims from the campaign, which was try to get manufacturing jobs back here to America.

Speaker 3 He works in an industry where there's a lot of imports, and his point was just like, I actually like these policies. I just wish we had a chance to adjust them.

Speaker 3 I can't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know what the policy is from day to day.

Speaker 3 I can't move my entire supply chain from, I don't remember what country it was he was talking about. It wasn't China, though.
It was another country. He's like, but I can't move them here in a week.

Speaker 3 Like, I would be happy to do it over a five-year period if tariffs were ramping up and I kind of understood it. He's like, the other thing, too, is

Speaker 3 my industry is a low

Speaker 3 margin industry. A 10% tariff knocks out the entire margin.
He's like, I now make no profit on any of these things. Well, that's why you have to pass it along to your customers.

Speaker 3 That's why the goods go up. That's why the price of the product goes up with the tariff because because you can only eat that cost for so long.
Right.

Speaker 3 Well, you dealt with this when it came to the Biden inflation stuff,

Speaker 3 when it was more related to the policies Biden was doing with butter for your cookies,

Speaker 3 Pexi cookies,

Speaker 3 all of that. I mean, you put about 30 pounds of butter in each cookie,

Speaker 3 which is a lot of butter. It's a lot of butter.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 You actually use more butter than most

Speaker 3 dairy companies produce. That is true.
You have to go go to multiple companies just to get it.

Speaker 3 They are really good cookies. That's really true.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 you're trying to run a business, right? At least those prices go up. It gets very difficult.
Now, this is the truth with every single tax increase, right?

Speaker 3 You'll always get more revenue in theory, in the short term at least.

Speaker 3 You know, again, if the tariffs are very high, a lot of times people find ways around them. And that's the same thing that happens with regular taxes.

Speaker 3 But like, the theory of a tax increase is that it's supposed to give you a little pain. The people who are paying those taxes have a little pain,

Speaker 3 but it gives you some other return, right?

Speaker 3 You know, if the left was going to raise taxes on

Speaker 3 carbon emissions, right?

Speaker 3 If they were being honest, which they rarely are, but if they were, they would say, yes, this is going to make your energy cost more.

Speaker 3 However, it's going to solve our invisible gas problem that we've been telling you about, right?

Speaker 3 There's always, hey, yes, we're going to raise taxes on this, but it's going to pay for children's education or whatever. Like there's always some promised gain.

Speaker 3 The question is, of course, how does that play out in the long term?

Speaker 3 All of that being said, that's true unless what Hassett just said is true, which is the goal the entire time was to get these taxes, the tariffs really low. Then it doesn't have that outcome.
Right.

Speaker 3 And it's the exact reverse. And it's funny to hear

Speaker 3 representatives from the White House make both arguments at the same time. I don't think Trump is making both arguments at the same time.
I think he's been pretty honest about it.

Speaker 3 He's like, yeah, it's going to be pain. Yeah, I removed the tariffs because the markets were getting yippy.
Like, he's, he's just saying

Speaker 3 he has said it. Yeah.
Yeah. Everyone else in the administration is coming out and going, oh, actually, this is true.
And it's like, well,

Speaker 3 I don't know. I mean, it doesn't seem like it.
And Trump doesn't seem to be saying that. And he's been pretty clear, too, that part of the goal is to level the trade deficit that we have.

Speaker 3 Now, if you're going to try to level the deficit with China before any of this goes away, that's nearly impossible because our trade deficit with China is almost $2 trillion.

Speaker 3 So I don't know how you level that playing field. I mean, we've been

Speaker 3 building this for decades now with China. And so at $2 trillion, they're not going to just forgive that debt.
They're not going to say, okay, don't worry about it. Yeah, and it's not debt, right?

Speaker 3 It's not, it's, it's, I mean, you can get into whether trade deficits are as damaging as some people say they are.

Speaker 3 In reality,

Speaker 3 the easiest example of this is a country like Madagascar. It's like, well, we buy a lot of vanilla beans for Madagascar.

Speaker 3 Maybe you have them in some of the Kexie cookies. I don't know.
It's possible.

Speaker 3 But like...

Speaker 3 We get that from them. They're good at doing that.
They make vanilla beans better than almost everywhere, right? Everyone talks about Madagascar vanilla and

Speaker 3 specialty-type drinks and specialty-type foods.

Speaker 3 I don't think Madagascar is going to buy an equal amount of our financial software.

Speaker 3 I've got real skepticism on that one.

Speaker 3 Based on what? I know.

Speaker 3 They just don't seem to care as much about that type of thing.

Speaker 3 I don't know why. Again, their entire GDP is basically exporting vanilla beans, a lot of which we buy.

Speaker 3 And they're just not going to import the stuff we make.

Speaker 3 They don't have a lot of interest in it. They don't have any money to buy it.

Speaker 3 It would be a very bad situation for us.

Speaker 3 And we can't produce the vanilla beans that they make there. It's not like we can import that.

Speaker 3 We can import the supply chain. And the same thing goes the opposite is Australia, right? Where Australia has a lot of money.
They can buy our stuff and they do buy some of our stuff.

Speaker 3 In fact, they buy more of our stuff than we buy from them because the things that they export, we don't have all that much need for. They do a lot of metals and stuff.

Speaker 3 And it's like taking metals that are very heavy and shipping them over here when we can kind of do a lot of it ourselves. It's just not that, it doesn't work.
So we have a big surplus with Australia.

Speaker 3 I don't think either of those relationships are bad. They seem to make a lot of sense to me.
It kind of seems like that's the way they should work.

Speaker 3 But if you're looking to lower those

Speaker 3 trade imbalances, what I would say is China sucks. Their government sucks.
They're doing all sorts of things that screw us.

Speaker 3 We're not going to be able to take all those jobs, nor probably do we want to, move all those manufacturing jobs back to the United States.

Speaker 3 Some of the higher-end ones we might consider, like, you know, it's funny, the electronics were reportedly exempted from this, like iPhones over the weekend, and now they're kind of backing off on that.

Speaker 3 So I don't know where that stands either.

Speaker 3 But those would be the jobs you'd probably want if you're going to take them, the higher-end technology manufacturing jobs, not the, you know, the lower-end, whatever, and cheap toy manufacturing.

Speaker 3 But what usually happens with those jobs, especially when tariffs are low on countries that are nearby, is you can move them from China to India, for example.

Speaker 3 You can move them from China to Vietnam or China to Bangladesh or some other place where you can still get the benefits of that lower cost

Speaker 3 and not necessarily enrich China. That, to me, seems to be maybe where this policy lands eventually.
If we could kind of get aggressive, incentivizing those other countries,

Speaker 3 there's a clearer path, I think, to something that would benefit the United States and hurt China, which, frankly, you know,

Speaker 3 what they're doing to us, it needs to be done. They're an adversary.
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Speaker 3 Of course, meanwhile, China has stopped some exports on critical minerals and magnets.

Speaker 3 And they're threatening to choke off the supply of components to central automakers, aerospace manufacturers, semiconductor companies, and military contractors around the world. So that's a problem.

Speaker 3 We should have been preparing for this trade war. If we were going to do this trade war, we should have been preparing for it a long time ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 We should be removing some of the restrictions that disallow us from mining our own heavy rare earth minerals. Why would we do something like that, Pat?

Speaker 3 I can't fathom why we would use our own resources. Yeah, other than we don't have to rely on anybody else.
I can't think of a pharmaceutical. That's an interesting proposal.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Especially, but especially for that and pharmaceuticals,

Speaker 3 we should have been prepared for this because to completely rely and turn it all over to the Chinese when we've got an adversarial relationship with them and always have had,

Speaker 3 it

Speaker 3 seemed imprudent, to say the least. Well, and you saw their actions during COVID, right? Why when it was like

Speaker 3 PPE and things we needed for doctors and stuff here in the United States, they were just like, yeah, we're not exporting any of that stuff anymore. This turned it off one day.

Speaker 3 And you're just like, wait,

Speaker 3 what? Right. Like, now, of course, this is very predictable.

Speaker 3 It's interesting because it sort of highlights both the issues the concerns with the trade war with china at the same time the importance of it yeah right like right this right we have been vulnerable this is not a donald trump thing we've been vulnerable to this for a very long time and because we've taken no actions i and i don't think you need to do it in every arena you don't need to do it with toys no you know you don't need to import critical things right critical things that are in national defense categories

Speaker 3 i think make more sense Keeping people alive, like pharmaceuticals. Yeah.
And in a way, I think that is national defense related because what happens in this war, right?

Speaker 3 Like if China decides to escalate this and we have to deal with all of this stuff ourselves with no runway, it could be very ugly.

Speaker 3 You know, think about, you know, think about like the formula shortage that happened a few years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I remember talking to a new dad who needed the specialty type formula, and he's like, I can't get it.

Speaker 3 I'm driving all around the state, just stopping at Walgreens, just hoping there are just bottles for my kid in here because it's so, it was some specialty item that they, and we had restrictions on importing it from foreign countries, which is another problem.

Speaker 3 Trade barriers, a lot of times, do come up with negative consequences the other way, too.

Speaker 3 But we couldn't produce it all.

Speaker 3 And so that could happen with China just turning it off. Yeah.
And so far, they're

Speaker 3 learning to do that.

Speaker 3 This is not J.D. Vance and Donald Trump sitting in a room talking to Zelensky and saying, you don't have any cards.
That's not what this is. They do have cards.
They have a lot of cards.

Speaker 3 Certainly they have nuclear weapons. We hope it never gets to that level.
But they have cards that they can just turn stuff off. They could stop importing stuff to us.

Speaker 3 They hold how much of our debt? They can start playing with that. They could stop buying it.
I mean, they've already started doing that. So there's a lot of things that they can do.

Speaker 3 they're not helpless in this one, and also they're the type of adversary that sticks by these decisions when they make them, yeah, and they're patient. Whereas

Speaker 3 not so much for us, not so much, no.

Speaker 3 Well, it's too much freaking out going on all of this stuff, and there's no value in freaking out, but it is important to understand where you stand and what the risks and concerns are.

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Speaker 6 The deadline for registration under the Alien Registration Act is today.

Speaker 6 All foreign nationals present in the United States longer than 30 days must register with the federal government. Failure to comply with this is a crime, punishable by fines, imprisonment, or both.

Speaker 6 As President Trump and Secretary Noam have both said, if you register and you leave now, you choose to self-deport. You may have the opportunity to return later legally.

Speaker 6 But if not, you will be arrested, fined, deported, never to return to our country again. The Trump administration will continue to enforce our nation's immigration laws.

Speaker 6 We will not pick and choose which laws to enforce. We must know who is in our country for the safety and the security of our homeland and for all American citizens.

Speaker 3 That sounds kind of reasonable to me.

Speaker 3 Maybe it's just me.

Speaker 3 Maybe I'm ridiculous thinking that we should know who is coming here from other places. Really? Yeah.
Yeah. Is that too much? Is that a brand new thought? Xenophobic.

Speaker 3 No, I've had it for some time now. Really? How old am I?

Speaker 3 For that many years. I've had it.
38. Yeah.
38 years. All 38 years of my life.
I have been of that mindset. Yeah.
That, yeah, maybe we should know who's coming into our country.

Speaker 3 Like every other country on earth needs to know, wants to know, and tries to make sure that they know who's coming into their country.

Speaker 3 But we, for some reason, are not allowed that little bit of sovereignty.

Speaker 3 We're just supposed to, okay, yeah, just everybody come on in. Ali gali, all come free.
We're fine with whoever's here and whatever you're doing here. I'm sure it's fine.

Speaker 3 Whatever disease you have, bring it. Bring it with you.
We don't mind. So bizarre.
It is. It's so bizarre.

Speaker 3 And I think, too, one of the frustrating things about the current news cycle, if you will, is everyone's talking about tariffs.

Speaker 3 I mean, we even started with it today, although, you know, it's leading the news. But stuff like this is going on that's really, really positive.
You know, Trump has got

Speaker 3 so many good things he's been working on, so many things that have benefited the country since he got into office. The tariff thing is sort of outshining that because it hits people in the pocketbook.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 it's the economy stupid kind of pops its head up here as I see

Speaker 3 James Carpill's head pops into mine. But it's a situation where you have

Speaker 3 these types of things. Like the border has been an unqualified success, right? Like, it's been incredible.
It's been, there's nothing, nothing you have to say, there's no real hesitation there.

Speaker 3 You don't have to be like, oh, gosh, well, all, I mean, you know, we've had a couple of these issues where individual people that were,

Speaker 3 you know, exported to El Salvador prisons that maybe shouldn't have. Yeah.
They're working on, they're fighting that out in the courts right now.

Speaker 3 And I'm sure if I, you know, if I was in that family of the gang, but you know, accused gang member, I would be very upset about such things.

Speaker 3 But generally speaking, when you talk about a policy, this has worked out really well so far. Yeah.
And, you know, it's an unqualified success. Yeah.
And no one's talking about it.

Speaker 3 And the only way they do talk about it is, well, what about that guy in Maryland? Right. You took that guy in a father.
He's a father.

Speaker 3 There aren't gang member fathers. There are.
I don't know if you're aware of that, but my understanding of gang members is they're not all that worried about

Speaker 3 maybe impregnating people. So there's lots of gang matter matter, gang member fathers.
I'm sure I don't know what that has to do with anything. Like, it's not necessarily,

Speaker 3 you know, and again,

Speaker 3 as the administration itself has said in that particular case, they made a mistake. And the Supreme Court is saying you need to try at least to fix that mistake.

Speaker 3 Pikaley, by the way, the head of El Salvador, is in Washington today. So I'm sure they'll have some conversations about whether that can occur.
And look, could we pressure them into doing something?

Speaker 3 Probably.

Speaker 3 I I don't know that. We're paying them a lot of money for it.
Yep.

Speaker 3 So I'm sure that we can convince them that, yeah, send this one guy back.

Speaker 3 It's probably where this lands. I don't know for sure.
They say that

Speaker 3 they have confirmation. I guess they have to give up daily updates on how they're progressing toward this policy.
And the administration is saying

Speaker 3 they've now found out he is alive and well at this prison.

Speaker 3 Well might not be best description of it because that prison kind of sells. As well as you can be.
But as well as you can be that supermax. And so they're working on getting him out of there.

Speaker 3 All that being said is that's the entire focus of the border policy, right? Like not the fact that it's down 90 something percent from when Biden. Which is miraculous.
Miraculous.

Speaker 3 And even because it fell toward the end of Biden's regime because he implemented a lot of Trump's first-term policies again because he was worried about losing the election over this issue.

Speaker 3 But it's even down significantly from those levels. Right.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 that has worked out not just through policy, but just through tone, right? The president of the United States is saying, hey, no, we don't want this anymore. As we've said, so many times.

Speaker 3 Just delivering the message helps a great deal. A great deal.
Before you build a wall or send the military there or do any of those

Speaker 3 methods, it works just sending the right message. It's not going to be tolerated.
So you might as well turn around and go back home. If you're on your way here, go home.

Speaker 3 We're not going to allow you in. Yeah.
It's amazing how people don't want to walk 1,500 miles only to turn around and go back. Yeah.
And also,

Speaker 3 I think there's also a part of this where there is some level of illegal immigrant who crosses the border because they basically don't think it's a crime. Yeah.
Because, yeah.

Speaker 3 Because our half of our country says it all the time. Like when we get presidential candidates who say, well, we welcome you in the middle of a presidential debate.
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 If you were in Guatemala,

Speaker 3 what would you take from that? Oh, well, a guy who just won the presidency said he's welcoming me. What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 3 Now, I would say, hey, you obviously know it's still illegal, but like, you know, and this might hit you a little too close to home, Pat.

Speaker 3 I want to warn you as I make this analogy, but some people are aware that exceeding a certain speed with your automobile is against the law.

Speaker 3 And yet they still seem to do it over and over and over and over again. Scoff laws.
Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 It happens, man. That is despicable.
Sometimes young people get

Speaker 3 eight and nine tickets in a year and a half. Ten or 15.

Speaker 3 Or 17.

Speaker 3 I mean, seven

Speaker 3 tickets, something. Yeah, but that's over a period of

Speaker 3 12 years. Now it's many years.
So, yeah.

Speaker 3 So those people.

Speaker 3 Presumably, I'm just jumping into your analogy, your example there. I will say you added incredible color to it.
It's actually a... No idea who it is you're speaking of, but

Speaker 3 I hope these people are in prison.

Speaker 3 No, a lot of them are. I'm not worried about it.

Speaker 3 Largely because we treat speeding

Speaker 3 like a minor offense. Like, hey, you know, yeah, you do it sometimes.
And, you know, if you get caught, you pay the fine and or you argue, try to get yourself out of it or whatever.

Speaker 3 And that's kind of the beginning and the end of it. And people don't go to jail.
People don't get deported for it typically. You know,

Speaker 3 and that is how we kind of treat illegal immigration, at least when a Democrat is in office. It is, yeah.
And many Republicans, it seems. Yeah, it's like a speeding ticket or even less.

Speaker 3 If you're in Guatemala making 18 cents a decade,

Speaker 3 I don't know, you're looking at this and saying, hey, I don't know. I mean, yeah, look, it's probably a little bit over the line, but they don't seem to care.
So I don't know, let's go.

Speaker 3 So I think that type of stuff really completely gets eliminated by tone. Yeah, absolutely.
Trump can come out and say, no, it's not a speeding ticket. It is a major thing.

Speaker 3 It is a focus of our administration. We are going to stop it full stop.
And they will react to that. Well, and Tom Homan's done a great job.
Homan's been great. He's been awesome sending that message.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 You know, back in 2008, it wasn't just Republicans. Even back in 2008, when I thought they were terrible on the issue, listen to what Hillary Clinton said.

Speaker 3 This is a

Speaker 3 video that's going around here.

Speaker 3 You're probably going to agree with virtually everything she says here,

Speaker 3 but here's what she said about illegal aliens back then.

Speaker 8 So I think we got to have tough conditions. Tell people to come out of the shadows.
If they've committed a crime, deport them. No questions asked.

Speaker 3 They're gone.

Speaker 8 If they've been working and are law-abiding, we should say, here are the conditions for you staying. You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally.
You have to pay back taxes.

Speaker 8 And you have to try to learn English and you have to wait in line.

Speaker 3 What a xenophobia. What a racist.

Speaker 3 What a hater. In line and we expect you to learn English.
What?

Speaker 3 How hateful of her to suggest any of those things. It's fascinating.
It is, isn't it? It's amazing how, I mean, all that's completely gone now for Democrats.

Speaker 3 And I remember a while ago, you may have done it more recently as well on Pat Gray Unleashed, you, which is your show, by the way. Yeah, Pat, and it's not just a coincidentally titled show.

Speaker 3 You played clips of Democratic senators from like the 90s, people like Harry Reid and, you know, Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin and all these people who sounded like Republicans do.

Speaker 3 Sound like Donald Trump. Yeah.
Sound like Donald Trump. Bill Clinton.

Speaker 3 They all did. They all did.
I mean, Harry Reid was one of the biggest and most noticeable of all the people who have completely changed on immigration.

Speaker 3 You know, we lost him. Of course, we lost him.
So he doesn't say anything about immigration. Yeah, very quiet on

Speaker 3 days lately.

Speaker 3 We'll not address it. We'll not.
But he was big time against illegal immigration. And then, so what happened?

Speaker 3 I mean, that was the 90s, granted, for Harry Reid, but what changed that he thought it was okay now?

Speaker 3 I don't know. Yeah, and do we have Hillary Clip again? Can we play that one more time? And I hate to give you two doses, a double dose of Hillary Clinton on a day like today.
But

Speaker 3 there's a hint to where the Democrats went in this policy. Listen to this one more time.

Speaker 8 So I think we got to have tough conditions. Tell people to come out of the shadows.
If they've committed a crime, deport them. No questions asked.

Speaker 3 They're gone. They're gone.

Speaker 8 If they've been working and are law-abiding, we should say, here are the conditions for you staying.

Speaker 5 You have to pay us.

Speaker 3 Can you be law-abiding?

Speaker 3 Once you've broken the law and come across the border illegally? No, No, you can't.

Speaker 3 But look, if you are in El Salvador or Honduras and you hear the leading politicians say, well, if you've broken the law, you get exported, you're going to get deported.

Speaker 3 But if you're here and you're law-abiding,

Speaker 3 then it's okay.

Speaker 3 Well, if you're here and law-abiding, that makes it seem like being here is not breaking the law. True.

Speaker 3 And the Democrats and many Republicans sent that message over a long, long period where it just seemed like, yeah, go ahead, come. It's not that big a deal.
It's a speeding ticket.

Speaker 3 And, you know, as long as you hit the qualifications, if you take a driving class or whatever, then you're going to be fine. Well, I mean, Trump has changed that formula.
Sure has.

Speaker 3 And to great effect. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And now he's telling you, if you are here, you need to come forward and register so that we know who you are and what you're doing here.

Speaker 3 And you're still going to be deported, but you have a chance to come back legally uh if that happens so if you don't and we catch you then we're going to deport you and make sure you never come back again so i mean try to give them some incentive you know to come clean and make a fresh start but is that going to work uh i don't know kind of doubt it I think they're afraid to come forward because they don't want to be deported.

Speaker 3 And so they're going to take that chance and just see if maybe they can continue to get away with it. All right.
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Speaker 3 Patents Stu for Glenn today, 888-727-B-E-C-K. Oh, I wanted to show you the, you know, we were just talking about immigration and how much different things are at the border right now.

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Speaker 3 Not on the bank either. Are the fish illegal?

Speaker 3 I don't know. Maybe they seem to be crossing back and forth.
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Speaker 3 No, yeah, you're right. It's a totally different thing.
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Speaker 3 the drone shots.

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Speaker 3 Yep. They did nothing about it except continue to encourage it, actually.

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Speaker 3 Okay, so Bernie Sanders and AOC just had another one of those

Speaker 3 oligarchy tour things that they're doing around the country.

Speaker 3 I think this one was in Los Angeles. They actually had

Speaker 3 a few people there that they paid to show up. So that's pretty cool.
Oh, really? They paid them to show up. Oh, sure.
Oh, you know, they did.

Speaker 3 Why else would you go? Why else?

Speaker 3 Nobody's going to the Bernie Sanders AOC oligarchy show.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Not unless you're paid. I wouldn't even do it for money, but there are those who apparently will, and we saw them over the weekend.

Speaker 3 But just to show you that this is not a new thing for Bernie Sanders or AOC,

Speaker 3 but check out

Speaker 3 this little montage put together to show Bernie Sanders over the years. I think this starts in 1993.
Listen to this. This great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarchy.

Speaker 3 The United States of America

Speaker 3 is increasingly becoming an oligarchy. More

Speaker 3 more

Speaker 3 moving toward an oligarchy. We are moving in the direction of oligarchy.
We will move even more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy. This great country

Speaker 3 is evolving into an oligarchic society. 2015 coming up.
It is called oligarchy, and that is the system we are rapidly moving toward. This is a budget to

Speaker 3 our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy. A handful of

Speaker 3 billionaires

Speaker 3 are moving this entire planet into a democracy.

Speaker 3 Oh, an oligarchy.

Speaker 3 2020,

Speaker 3 and that is that under Donald Trump, this country is hurtling rapidly to rapidly.

Speaker 3 It's amazing to me. Okay, for 32 years, you're saying the same exact thing, even in the exact same way.
And now all of a sudden, it's Donald Trump who's moving moving us toward an oligarchic.

Speaker 3 He was saying the same thing during the Barack Obama administration. Yes.
And many other administrations. And many other.

Speaker 3 What are you going to do? Just stop playing Stairway to Heaven? What do you do?

Speaker 3 You play the hits.

Speaker 3 He's doing it. He's definitely doing it.

Speaker 3 No, you don't stop playing Stairway to Heaven. No.
It's a classic. It's a classic.
You just keep going with it. And the oligarchic society.

Speaker 3 That's a classic. Is Jims a classic? Is he going to stop talking about hot pockets? Probably not.

Speaker 3 He's going to make sure you get the hot pocket bit in there every time you go see him, right? And that's what this is, right?

Speaker 3 The oligarchy, which, again, you could go oligarchy, right? Yeah. Oligarchy, he's going that way with it.
Or he's gone oligarchic. Oligarchic.

Speaker 3 You could go that way as well. All of that

Speaker 3 is the same boring

Speaker 3 analysis of the country that we've been hearing forever from socialists. And he's a socialist.
He's someone who actually believes in socialism.

Speaker 3 And a lot of people flirt with it on the left. A lot of people,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 go in and out of

Speaker 3 certain concepts when they're popular.

Speaker 3 You know, when coming up with a brand new healthcare system is what they're going to promote, they're not going to say they're socialist, but they're just going to adopt the socialist policy for a time.

Speaker 3 That's not Bernie. Bernie's been there the whole time.
Yeah, he really has. Yeah.
And AOC as well.

Speaker 3 I mean, again, she's 14 years old or something, so not that long, but whatever she is, she has been kind kind of saying the same thing. Ever since she was a bartender, she was a socialist.

Speaker 3 When she was at Boston College or Boston University, whichever one has been completely ruined by her reputation,

Speaker 3 that is the same story. She's saying the same crap then, and she's saying the same crap now.
There's consistency there, I suppose. And here she is kind of rooting for the destruction of America.

Speaker 11 Also, you know,

Speaker 11 the other way I think you can think about it is that we are,

Speaker 11 you know, perhaps we are in the downfall of the broken way.

Speaker 11 This was not built to last. Inequity,

Speaker 11 injustice is not built to last. It lasts a long time.
It could last hundreds of years, but ultimately it crumbles into this, you know,

Speaker 3 a small

Speaker 11 cohort of incompetent people that create damage. And from that,

Speaker 11 something new can spring. And so maybe something is declining right now, but maybe it deserves to to decline.

Speaker 3 Oh, maybe it deserves to decline. Yeah, America deserves to just go away now and

Speaker 3 devolve into something completely different. Like, I don't know, socialism

Speaker 3 is what she has in mind, obviously. She and Bernie, both.
Yep.

Speaker 3 That's amazing. Can you imagine being Alexandria Casio-Cortez and calling someone else incompetent?

Speaker 3 Can you imagine the thought process that must go into that moment? Again, I don't know that there is much of one.

Speaker 3 It doesn't seem like there's a lot of thought going on in most of the stuff that she says, but what a bizarre. Imagine having the ball

Speaker 3 to accuse someone else of incompetence when you're Alexandria Casio-Cortez and you've never seen a garbage disposal in your life.

Speaker 3 That is fascinating.

Speaker 4 It's incredible.

Speaker 3 I really, I will say

Speaker 3 people like AOC, really bad for the country. Right.
Like they, it really, you know, terrible. She's absolutely horrible.

Speaker 3 If God forbid she ever gets elected to higher office, which I think is very likely,

Speaker 3 and she gets her policies implemented, it'd be the end of the United States as we know it. It's something that she just basically praised as an idea.

Speaker 3 Like, we hope the United States goes away as we know it.

Speaker 3 She's supposedly 20 points ahead of a

Speaker 3 potential

Speaker 3 run

Speaker 3 against Chucky Schumer. And I think she would.
20 points. I think she would, too.
I think that's true. And again, you think about that.

Speaker 3 Well, she's also eligible to become president of the United States.

Speaker 3 And while I don't think she'd be the favorite walking engine, I think she might be the new Bernie who certainly influenced left-wing policy quite a bit

Speaker 3 when he almost beat Biden and Hillary.

Speaker 3 So at the very least, and certainly a more

Speaker 3 package that people

Speaker 3 would be more drawn to than Bernie Sanders, who looks like a freaking

Speaker 3 Muppet. He looks like a Muppet in the balcony of a theater.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 that approach, you know, which

Speaker 3 has a little bit of charm to it in a way, if you happen to like socialism. Like you could say, okay, here's this crotchety guy who's been saying oligarchic, you know, the same way for 50 years.

Speaker 3 There's some charm to that. But I think if you have an AOC.

Speaker 3 Is there, though? Is there charm to that? Well, yeah, I would say it's the same type of charm.

Speaker 3 And I don't mean this that they're the same, they're totally different, but it's the same type of charm that

Speaker 3 Ron Paul has, right? You have this guy who's kind of like he's been there, but throwing his hands up at the camera for 50 years, being like, what the hell? Why are you doing it this way?

Speaker 3 And like, there's part of that I just like. Like, I like the guy who's just never given up.
He's never played the political games. I mean, we, we could go back to the Ron Paul era

Speaker 3 with a microscope and get a little bit more clarification on that. But generally speaking, you know, there is something that's attractive, I think, to people who are idealists.
People like it. Right.

Speaker 3 Like, I am. ideologically committed to a smaller government.
Like, it is what I believe is the better thing for America.

Speaker 3 So, you look at a person like Ron Paul, who's fought for that largely his entire life.

Speaker 3 And the fact that he's out there just kind of screaming at the camera and looks like the crotchety old guy doing it, like, I don't know. There's something I like about that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But that's not a mass thing. Where, like, AOC, you know, she's younger.
I mean, look, she looks to me completely insane. Some people find her attractive.
I do not.

Speaker 3 You know, that's

Speaker 3 my own, my own, the crazy eyes.

Speaker 3 I can't deal with it. But, like, some people like that.

Speaker 3 I will say, though, this

Speaker 3 this group of uh i don't know let's say squad type politicians they just they they do make america a little more fun like i

Speaker 3 love

Speaker 3 jasmine crockett i freaking love her i want her to be the representative of the democratic party for the next 100 years that's how much i love her really i want her to be the voice of the left wow for the next full century okay

Speaker 3 i mean she is

Speaker 3 utterly fantastic. She never, ever says something smart.
Ever. Oh, she can't do it.
If someone fed her a line that was a, that was just a, hey, here, we wrote this down for you,

Speaker 3 she wouldn't be able to read it. She is.
Not if it was intelligent, but that's true. She is legitimately one of the dumbest people that has ever been in the public eye.

Speaker 3 And she's also one of the most confident people that has ever been in the public eye. She's very confident in her stupidity.
That

Speaker 3 intersections is

Speaker 3 for me. Look,

Speaker 3 we do a lot of content. We need content.
She delivers the content. She's nuts.
She's loud. She's stupid.
She's everything I want in a Democratic politician. I love her.

Speaker 3 In fact, I will say this, and I hate to bring this. AOC was that for a while.
She's kind of old hat to me now. Like, I'm all in the Jasmine Crockett world now.
That's all I care about.

Speaker 3 I'm in my Jasmine Crockett era. I don't, I, AOC, yeah, whatever.
Go do your stupid tour with Bernie. I want a Jasmine Crockett quote.
And she's local, you know? She's from Dallas.

Speaker 3 I knew she was Texas. I didn't.
Yeah. She's from Dallas.
Maybe she'll come on. Maybe.
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I love you.

Speaker 3 Like, this is not a negative. This will not be a hard interview.

Speaker 3 I mean, every interview with English words to her is hard, but I mean, I'm saying, generally speaking, as in comparison to like a normal right-wing talk show that might criticize her, I'm just gonna, I just want her to talk.

Speaker 3 Just say the things you believe and say them as loudly and stupidly as you normally do. Yeah.
And she does. She's great.
She's the biggest loudmouth in the Democrat Party right now. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 And she's so far, so stupid. Embarrassing to them.
Yes. I love it.

Speaker 3 They all cringe. Every time she speaks, opens her mouth.

Speaker 3 Do you think they do? The Chuck Shooters. Are they smart enough? The Nancy Pelosis of the world.
Oh,

Speaker 3 hate it. The old guard

Speaker 3 hates it. Because she gets all the attention, all the clicks.
AOC was the same way. Yep.
And they deliver the dumbest possible version of all of their arguments. Yeah.
Right? Yes.

Speaker 3 Like, oh, we're not picking cotton anymore. Is there illegal immigration?

Speaker 3 We want the illegal immigrants to pick our cotton. That's their, that's

Speaker 3 like, she thinks that's smart. Yeah.
There's no

Speaker 3 no price on the value that you get from a Jasmine Crockett or an AOC inner prime. And she's passed it a little bit, but like, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 The Jasmine Crocketts of the world, they're on the scene. They're excited.

Speaker 3 They're new. They're just everything they've ever thought in their mind seems to get rewarded with more and more follows.
Why not keep saying it? And you're right.

Speaker 3 Ms. Crockett.
Just keep.

Speaker 3 Just keep vomiting all your inner thoughts. Oh, and she will.
Oh, and she will. She's proud of them.
She's She's proud of them. She thinks that they're great.
Yeah, she does. She does.

Speaker 3 She thinks she's really making a difference. Yes.

Speaker 3 And that's the perfect person to be your opposition. You want that person exactly.
And she's

Speaker 3 make a good case for her. I mean, it's hard to listen to, but it is.
But it's fun. All right.
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Speaker 3 All right. Speaking of crazy people,

Speaker 3 man, there's a lot to choose from in the Democrat Party. Taylor Lorenz sat down with

Speaker 3 somebody I have no idea who this guy is, but between the two of them, oh, they make some beautiful music together.

Speaker 3 Now, I will say, are you trying to call me out after I just said the best possible voice for opposition is Jasmine Crockett? And you went to...

Speaker 3 You sent right to Taylor Lorenz, like the number one competitor. Right.
Yeah, really. I mean, you decide after you hear this on murder.
Listen to this.

Speaker 7 Hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is the United States of America.

Speaker 7 As if we don't lionize criminals, as if we don't have, you know, we don't stand

Speaker 7 murderers of all sorts. And we give them Netflix shows.
There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and the angles that mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels.

Speaker 7 And you see that in moments like this. And I can tell you, I saw the biggest audience growth that I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 7 people were like, oh, somebody, some journalist, is actually speaking to the anger that we feel.

Speaker 3 The women who got our outside coursed in New York.

Speaker 7 So you're going to see women, especially, that feel like, oh my god, right? Like, here's this man who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart.

Speaker 7 He's a person that seems like this morally good man, which is

Speaker 3 fine. Yeah, well, he murdered a CEO.
Yeah, so just

Speaker 12 to say that women will literally gain an assassin before they swipe right on me.

Speaker 3 That's where we're at.

Speaker 12 I'm sure you wouldn't like to be compared to a Trump supporter.

Speaker 12 But

Speaker 12 some of how people cannot understand

Speaker 12 why people have sympathies for Mangioni strikes me as the same as a lot of media not understanding why people support Trump.

Speaker 3 That's not the same.

Speaker 3 A lot of people

Speaker 3 in comparison.

Speaker 3 Really bad.

Speaker 7 They want somebody

Speaker 7 to take on the system. They want somebody to tear down these barbaric establishment institutions.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Good God.
Wow. Is that amazing? She is such an idiot.
Oh, my God. First of all, Taylor Lorenz for Congress.
I'm going to say it right now.

Speaker 3 Please make it happen. There's a 95% chance she winds up hooking up with this murderer which i'm not going to say his name she wants to she wants to if she hasn't already oh my gosh if she has

Speaker 3 she may have already yeah that's happening if he's allowed conjugal visits she's been there that yes

Speaker 3 100 she wants that badly oh my gosh pathetic um you know again i oh he he's a murderer yeah we do give gun down a father in cold blood on the streets of new york and that's okay

Speaker 3 in fact more than okay he's he's a moral moral person. Moral.
I mean, she uses the word moral. After doing that, he's a moral guy, which is really hard to find these days.
Well,

Speaker 3 when you have those morals, yeah, it is hard to find murderers who murder people they don't know in the street in cold blood and I guess are cheered on for it. That is hard to find.

Speaker 3 It should be hard to find.

Speaker 3 It's just absolutely fascinating. And, you know, makes the point.
I got more followers after that than ever. That's exactly what's happening on the left right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because that's why Jasmine Crockett keeps running her mouth. Yep.
Because she doesn't get punished for it. She doesn't, like, people don't look at her and go, oh my God, no, she's a hero.

Speaker 3 She's a hero. These dumb things they say are the things they get rewarded for.
And I will say there's an L, there's a bit of that on the right as well at times.

Speaker 3 However, it is much more prominent on the left.

Speaker 3 And it is laughable. She is, she is a, it's absolutely incredible.
Let's put it that way. The way they're excusing murder now, and it's not just this man Joni guy because he's good looking.
It's it is

Speaker 3 it's it's murder in general that they seem to be pretty okay with in some cases. Yeah,

Speaker 3 I think that's true. When it's when it's for the quote-unquote right reasons, which by the way, we should point out that this idiot, and I, you know, I know you just mentioned his name.

Speaker 3 I don't like saying it for the same reasons as the mass shooter thing. Well, yeah.
Because this is all about attention for this guy.

Speaker 3 I mean, you read the argument in his quote-unquote manifesto, it's about as dumb as anything Taylor Lorenz has ever said.

Speaker 3 He even says in the manifesto, I'm not the right guy to argue these points.

Speaker 3 Maybe you should be if you're going to go and murder a man over it. Maybe you should be familiar with the arguments, and that still wouldn't justify it.
But it is even more pathetic.

Speaker 3 The guy doesn't even know the basic liberal arguments about healthcare. That's how stupid he is.
He's a moron. He's just an absolute utter moron that murdered someone for attention.

Speaker 3 Incredible. And she's like, well, we give murderers Netflix shows.
We don't praise the murderers in the Netflix shows. Right.
Like, watch the, Everyone beats up on true crime.

Speaker 3 Watch it from time to time. The murderer isn't the praised party in most cases, unless they think he's innocent, which she does.
Yeah. She thinks the murder was a good thing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, not that he's innocent of the murder, but the murder was the right thing to do. Yep.
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Speaker 3 Patton Stew for Glenn today, 888-727-BECK. We're talking about this

Speaker 3 asinine Taylor Lorenz clip.

Speaker 3 She's talking to some guy I've never seen before about the murderer who shot down the CEO of United Healthcare in cold blood, just walked up behind him on a street in New York City and shot him in the back and killed him.

Speaker 3 And this father of, was it three? I think he's got, I don't know, two or three kids.

Speaker 3 Nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about the fact that he was a family man.
He was a father.

Speaker 3 You know, we always talk about separating people from their families. He was separated permanently from his family.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 they seem to be fine with it. They're fine with that.
They're excited about it. Fine with it.
I don't know if I mentioned this to you, Pat, but I have a relative who works in healthcare and has

Speaker 3 does some work with United Healthcare and has done like, you know, meetings with him when he was alive.

Speaker 3 And said, first of all, nicest guy in the world.

Speaker 3 Nicest guy in the world. A person who was

Speaker 3 known throughout the company as one of the good guys. Like he, one of these situations where the CEO, one of the the good guys rises to CEO,

Speaker 3 was actually like focused on fighting injustices in healthcare, also helping employees rise throughout the organization.

Speaker 3 Like his reputation within the company and people who knew him was really, really good. Like it doesn't even make any sense.

Speaker 3 And I mentioned to you just a minute ago off the air of like when this first happened, there was this thought of like, okay, there is.

Speaker 3 This guy, his dad got cancer and United Healthcare didn't pay for the cancer treatment and he's punishing them for that. Now, that still wouldn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 To be clear, that would not justify murdering a guy walking down the street. There's a lot of companies I can't stand.

Speaker 3 A lot of things that everybody's had a bad experience with some company, whether it's healthcare or something else, where you feel angry at the company, you want someone to be held responsible, you don't go murder them.

Speaker 3 This is like a real rule, Pat.

Speaker 3 It was written down a long time ago that you don't murder people. It was actually carved into stone.
Yeah, that's right. Literally carved into stone.
Into stone.

Speaker 3 One of the first things you're supposed to know about being alive is thou shalt not kill. Right.
Thou shalt not murder.

Speaker 3 And that is a situation where it's just despicable that a good chunk of the United States, because they think, I don't know, his unibrow is sexy,

Speaker 3 this murderer just gets

Speaker 3 praised for what he's done.

Speaker 3 But I mentioned this briefly: that he's not only a murderer, like the that sort of like movie concept where

Speaker 3 the guy who kills the person is really justified. It's not even that story.
It's this pathetic

Speaker 3 read two articles on Huffington Post understanding of the healthcare industry that he apparently had, which makes it even more frustrating. Like it wouldn't have been justified the other way.

Speaker 3 But at least there's like this out-of-control emotional thing that you could attach the reasoning to. Yeah.
Right? That's not the case here. Can I read you some of his manifesto?

Speaker 3 I've never heard the or read the manifesto from him. First of all, it's pretty short.
And the first few sentences are just him saying

Speaker 3 to the feds,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 I'll save you an investigation. This is what I did.
I have a notebook. You know, this is how I planned it.
Like, it's

Speaker 3 to the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country. I'm sure sure you do.
To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. Again,

Speaker 3 they're not going to investigate it because the murderer says he wasn't working with someone. I mean, I don't think he was, but he says, you know, hey, I have

Speaker 3 some elementary social engineering, a lot of patience. I have a notebook.

Speaker 3 It has some to-do lists that will give you how I plan this. And he says his tech is locked down because he works in engineering.
So that's the beginning of it. Then he goes on to

Speaker 3 explanation as to why he did it. He says, I do apologize for any strife or traumas, but it had to be done.
Oh, I'm sure his family feels great about that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, it had to be done. Why did it have to be done? Why?

Speaker 3 Frankly, this is his manifesto again. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming.
And he says parasites in a plural way.

Speaker 3 But he murdered an individual, an actual person. So again, he's going after this theoretical big health care, right?

Speaker 3 Not acting like he actually murdered a person, which is what he did.

Speaker 3 This is his justification.

Speaker 3 A reminder, the U.S. has the number one most expensive health care system in the world, yet we rank roughly number 42 in life expectancy.
Now,

Speaker 3 there's a lot to be said about this. Number one, it's a stupid liberal point that anyone who has ever looked at this at all could dismantle in 10 seconds, right?

Speaker 3 It is, we've done it 100 times on the show, on Pat Gray Unleashed, on Studos America, in books,

Speaker 3 on radio shows. It is the dumbest baseline point.
It's the entry point for I am arguing against American Healthcare University. It's day one, of course, 101.

Speaker 3 It is the first argument you'll ever hear, and it is the most basic argument you'll ever hear. But to put a finer point on it, he doesn't even bother to look up the number of where we rank.

Speaker 3 He says roughly number 42. He doesn't even know what the number is.

Speaker 3 It's like he, someone told him about the first class of idiotic liberal healthcare arguing university. I bet that's what happened too.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Somebody just told him. He read a tweet once.
That is the baseline of why he murdered a father and a husband

Speaker 3 in, I would say, broad deadlight. It was earlier than that.

Speaker 3 But in the middle of the street of New York, he gunned down a dad because he has this general understanding that our life expectancy doesn't match up to the cost. Now,

Speaker 3 we don't have to go through the entire argument. It's been beaten to death.
But there is a good reason for that. Number one, we fund the rest of the world's healthcare.

Speaker 3 We come up with every single innovation in the healthcare industry. And yeah, Americans, the richest country in the world, pay more than other countries do.

Speaker 3 That, by the way, should be something the left should be cheering. It's every progressive dream come true.
The rich people are paying for the poor people. Congratulations, you've done it.

Speaker 3 This is lit, when you look at it globally, that is exactly what is happening with healthcare. We are paying more than other countries.

Speaker 3 The reason for it is we are the source of every medical innovation. Look at Nobel Prizes and how many we win as compared to other countries when it comes to these innovations.
We do it all the time.

Speaker 3 Almost nobody else wins any of them.

Speaker 3 Madagascar, for all their vanilla bean use, wins very few Nobel Prizes in medicine. You're kidding.
It's shocking, I know, to hear. That stuns me.

Speaker 3 They are actually able to take the benefit of many of the innovations that we've created. And that includes medicine.

Speaker 3 Medicine, and a large part of it coming from American charity, by the way, is how they get it. Yeah.
So that is

Speaker 3 part one of that. Number two, life expectancy is not not a good measure of, I mean, this is so basic.
It is not a good measure of the quality of your healthcare system. Why?

Speaker 3 Because when I'm driving, when Pat Gray is driving home today and he's going a little bit over the speed limit and crashes into a neighborhood of

Speaker 3 kindergarten students waiting for a bus, which has happened multiple times, I'm pretty sure. No, it actually hasn't ever happened.

Speaker 3 Thank God. What does that do? Only because you usually drive in a period where they're at school.
It's the only reason it hasn't happened. But if it did happen,

Speaker 3 what would that do to our life expectancy? It would shorten it. Shorten it.

Speaker 3 Would that be Pat Gray's problem? Yes, that would be Pat Gray's problem. Would not be the

Speaker 3 United Healthcare as a company or the United States healthcare systems problem.

Speaker 3 We, accidents,

Speaker 3 you know, gun deaths,

Speaker 3 obesity are the reasons why we have a lower life expectancy than some of these other places they compare us to. Anyone who's thought about this issue for 10 minutes knows that.

Speaker 3 It is not a, you do not have to go deep into studies to figure that one out.

Speaker 3 It is the most basic thing you understand when someone brings up that dumb point.

Speaker 3 When Michael Moore did it in his stupid documentary a million years ago, we had this conversation and it was old information then.

Speaker 3 It is like anyone who has put a moment of thought, and I do not put Taylor Lorenz or Jasmine Crockett or this horrible murderer or any of those people into this category because they haven't put much thought into it.

Speaker 3 But they've heard it online. Anyone who's tweeted about this and made the dumb liberal point has heard someone in their replies or a community note correcting them on this.

Speaker 3 Then he goes on.

Speaker 3 After this dumb point about life expectancy, he says, United Healthcare he's talking about is the largest company in the U.S. by market cap, only behind Apple, Google, and Walmart.
So because. So.

Speaker 3 and right.

Speaker 3 Your point. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That is not a good point for many reasons.

Speaker 3 It's just, so it's not, it wasn't because they had a specific interaction with this CEO or this company. It's just they're the biggest healthcare company.
Wow.

Speaker 3 And they're almost as big as Google and Walmart and Apple.

Speaker 3 So those are bigger CEOs and, you know, they're not your target. No, nor should they be.

Speaker 3 Nor should they be. None of them, of course.
None of them. But that's a bizarre bizarre point.
So they're bigger,

Speaker 3 but you chose this guy for some reason. And you don't even have a healthcare issue yet.
Nope. As far as we know.
Nope. Except that we spend more money and have a lower life expectancy.

Speaker 3 Which, again, is just a dumb point.

Speaker 3 You know, like,

Speaker 3 God, I can't even go into any more on that. Okay.
It has grown and grown, meaning the company, United Healthcare, but has our life expectancy now. Again, now they're

Speaker 3 responsible for

Speaker 3 the United States life expectancy. Wow.
Which is just

Speaker 3 it's impossible to terminate

Speaker 3 the idiocy that you need to think that's a point.

Speaker 3 I'm at the point where I'm in Billy Madison and I'm saying everyone in the room is dumber for

Speaker 3 hearing this. This is the dumbest thing.
At no point did you come anywhere close to a coherent point. That whole situation.

Speaker 3 He says the reality is we have simply gotten too powerful, meaning the company United Healthcare, and they continue to abuse

Speaker 3 our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them misspelled to get away with it.

Speaker 3 Obviously, the problem is more complex, Pat. Obviously.
Now, he doesn't know any of the complexities to the argument,

Speaker 3 but he wants you to know

Speaker 3 that it is more complex. He said, obviously, the problem is more complex, but I do not have the space and frankly do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.

Speaker 3 So I guess he had a notebook base and couldn't take the time to write out a full manifesto, but also doesn't know any of the arguments. So what would he say anyway? Yeah.
You're right.

Speaker 3 You're not the most qualified. I mean, at least you can get a liberal argument on healthcare.
It would still be wrong in most cases, but you can get one that someone smart could say.

Speaker 3 But that's not him.

Speaker 3 Goes on to, by the way, cite.

Speaker 3 Michael Moore as one of his sources. Oh, my God.
Now, can you imagine if a murderer cited

Speaker 3 Glenn Beck as a source for his, the information that led him to a murder? Oh, would that be on the news at all? He specifically cites Michael Moore as an example of why he did this.

Speaker 3 And yet Michael Moore will go on TV on MSNBC probably today and rant about the same things over and over again, and no one will mention it.

Speaker 3 So anyway, and then he says he's really brave for

Speaker 3 murdering this guy when he wasn't facing him. It's always a, you know, shooting someone in the back as they walk away from you on the way to a meeting is always the most brave activity you can

Speaker 3 get into. Yeah.
Wow. So anyway, I just find that to be absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 3 Absolutely astounding. All right.
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Speaker 3 All right. We've been talking about the psycho who

Speaker 3 killed the UHC healthcare CEO.

Speaker 3 It's been, what, a year now? A year ago? Has it been two years? I don't remember. I don't know.

Speaker 3 Whatever it was. I mean, I have UHC.
It's dang good coverage. I mean, a couple of years ago when

Speaker 3 I realized that I had

Speaker 3 diabetes, went went into the hospital because I was in severe pain because my kidneys were shutting down. Yeah, it wasn't like a thing where they were like, oh, by the way, you have diabetes.

Speaker 3 Like you were in full-out emergency mode. I was in really bad pain and went into the emergency room, had no idea what the deal was.
I just thought I had kidney stones or something.

Speaker 3 It was a little beyond that. So anyway, I wound up in the hospital for, you know, in ICU for three days.
And

Speaker 3 UHC paid for virtually everything.

Speaker 3 We paid some kind of

Speaker 3 deductible. But

Speaker 3 after that particular hospital stay, which was three days and I think $50,000 or $100,000, I don't remember what it was, because we didn't have to pay for most of it.

Speaker 3 And then the rest of the year, we didn't have to pay anything on any of our health care because we met our maximum outlay of money for the year.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's pretty amazing. That's

Speaker 3 it was very helpful. It was very helpful.
It saved us a lot of money.

Speaker 3 And, you know, I know everybody's got issues with healthcare from time to time. And we've had our enemies.
It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good system.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'd much rather have it than any other country's healthcare. Yeah.
Not even close. Because we get quality care, and you don't have to wait six months for it.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, look, the wait times are much less. The technology is much better.

Speaker 3 And yeah, we do spend a lot on healthcare.

Speaker 3 I keep coming back to it, too. All these countries that claim to have this great healthcare

Speaker 3 are just parasites off of our system.

Speaker 3 They're all getting our innovations and they're taking them after we've paid all the money up front for it. Yep.
And they utilize them in their quote-unquote free healthcare systems.

Speaker 3 Look, I think that's a good outcome for the world, but like we should be getting credit for it

Speaker 3 as a country. And we don't.
And instead, we get bullets in the back of the CEOs

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Speaker 3 Have you been following the really tragic story of the 17-year-old Austin Metcalf that was stabbed in the heart at the track meet last

Speaker 3 week or the week before? Just really awful. Absolutely terrible.
Again, another one of those.

Speaker 3 No reason at all. Yeah, no reason.
Nothing.

Speaker 3 Not that there ever is a justification for such a thing.

Speaker 3 Sometimes you at least can.

Speaker 3 Come through some sort of logical process where it makes you able to understand it. These things are just crazy.
Right.

Speaker 3 Apparently,

Speaker 3 the kid who stabbed him in the heart, Carmelo Anthony, was in the wrong place. Not the basketball player.
I feel like I have to say that every single time.

Speaker 3 Not the basketball player. This is a different Carmelo Anthony who's 17 years old.

Speaker 3 And so he was asked to leave and apparently said, touch me and see what happens, and reached into his bag and pulled out a knife. And I think Austin Metcalf did, in fact, touch him.
Didn't hit him.

Speaker 3 I think he touched him and got stabbed in the heart for it. Now, he's claiming, Carmelo Anthony is claiming self-defense, which I don't know how you make that stick.

Speaker 3 And apparently, he's appearing in court today.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 so we'll see what kind of plea he enters here.

Speaker 3 But from what I understand, there's actual video of the event.

Speaker 3 So it should be pretty cut and dried, I guess, by the time this gets to trial.

Speaker 3 Somebody either, either, I don't know if there was footage that came from the high schools or the track meet or if somebody had cell phone footage of the incident, but

Speaker 3 it will be able to tell pretty well what happened there. But there were 30 witnesses in the tent.

Speaker 3 There were coaches, there were family members,

Speaker 3 there was other students in there, and they all saw what took place. So it should not be that difficult to noodle this one out.
Yeah. And of course, lawyers always have to have an argument.

Speaker 3 Whether it is the true argument is another story.

Speaker 3 They're always going to say something as to, you know, I guess self-defense is probably the most effective thing you can say in a moment like this.

Speaker 3 However, when you have that amount of witnesses,

Speaker 3 it's not going to work.

Speaker 3 And then in

Speaker 3 Wisconsin, there was a 17-year-old who murdered his parents. And the weird part of that, other than the murder itself, is that it was part of a twisted plot to assassinate President Trump.

Speaker 3 He allegedly killed his parents to obtain the financial means and autonomy necessary to also kill President Donald Trump and overthrow the U.S. government.

Speaker 3 Interesting proceeding.

Speaker 3 Certainly is.

Speaker 3 Nikita Cassup was arrested in March and charged with two counts of first-degree murder and two counts of hiding a corpse.

Speaker 3 Other charges included theft of property over $10,000 and misappropriating ID to obtain money. And the reason he was doing that was because he was planning to kill the president.
This is all part of a

Speaker 3 weird effort by,

Speaker 3 I don't know,

Speaker 3 they apparently found messages on his phone relating to the Order of Nine Angles.

Speaker 3 You ever heard of the Order of Nine Angles? Is it a band? It is not a band.

Speaker 3 No. It is a network of individuals holding neo-Nazi, racially motivated extremist views.
Wow.

Speaker 3 So. I have not heard of them.
Yeah. Nor am I interested in hearing more.
Very strange. I mean, just bizarre.
And not the end of the assassination plots either.

Speaker 3 Then there's a...

Speaker 3 The FBI just arrested a man named Ali Akbar Mohammed Amin, just arrested by the FBI on Friday night after he made threats against both Donald Trump and Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaker 3 North Korean national?

Speaker 3 No, I don't think so. You don't think so? I don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 What was the name again?

Speaker 3 His name was Ali Akbar Mohammed Amin. And you're saying he's not

Speaker 3 saying he's not from North Korean. From Pyongyang? No.
Isn't that weird? I wonder what that sounds very North Korean, I know. I wonder what his motivation could have been.
You never know.

Speaker 3 You never know. You never know.
It could have been, look,

Speaker 3 it could have been internal pyongyang

Speaker 3 issues. It could have been tariffs with North Korea.
Who knows? You don't know.

Speaker 3 But the FBI was not going to tolerate threats, and they're going to hold offenders fully accountable.

Speaker 3 People who make credible threats are going to be held accountable.

Speaker 3 This is interesting, too, because it came just days after CNN dismissed credible threats against Tulsi Gabbard, suggesting that her attempts to hide the address of a Texas property she owns were actually part of an attempt to commit voter fraud.

Speaker 3 Her office was a little upset with CNN for running a story because they doxed her.

Speaker 3 Oops. Yeah.
Oopsies. You know, we all make mistakes sometimes, Pat.

Speaker 3 Isn't that the truth? You know, shouldn't we be a little more forgiving as a society when your family gets doxxed? No. No, okay.
No, I'm going to say no on that one. Okay.

Speaker 3 That's an interesting interesting point counterpoint.

Speaker 3 CNN was investigating whether Gabbard committed fraud by voting in Hawaii, where she served in Congress and lived most of her life,

Speaker 3 after declaring a property her homestead in Texas. Now, she did that because when you declare a homestead in Texas, you can keep your address confidential.

Speaker 3 So they apparently didn't buy into that, and so they released her address. And

Speaker 3 even though she had credible threats against her from Ali Akbar, for one, at least, and

Speaker 3 CNN apparently didn't care about that.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 this is amazing how many of these people

Speaker 3 there are right now who have made threats against President Trump and administration officials.

Speaker 3 That it doesn't end there. There's There's also a guy who goes by the name Mr.
Satan on YouTube.

Speaker 3 And Mr. Satan.
Mr. Satan.
Mr. Satan, yeah.
Yeah. You can't just call him Satan.
He likes to be referred to as Mr. Satan to you.

Speaker 3 He lived in Butler, Pennsylvania. Oh, geez.
Does that ring a bell? It does. It does, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 And his arrest came after he wrote on YouTube that all of Trump's appointments need to be killed.

Speaker 3 He said, we just need to start killing people, Trump, Elon,

Speaker 3 and all the heads of agencies Trump appointed and anyone who stands in the way.

Speaker 3 That was done by

Speaker 3 this person in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 32-year-old Sean Monper of Butler is accused of making these statements on social media about his intent to kill the president after stockpiling ammunition, weapons, and body armor

Speaker 3 and going by the moniker, Mr. Satan.

Speaker 3 He said, I have bought several guns and have been stocking up on ammo since Trump got in office. Eventually, I'm going to do a mass shooting.

Speaker 3 A week later, the man allegedly wrote, I've been buying one gun a month since the election, body armor. and ammo.

Speaker 3 So he was apparently very prepared to carry out this mass shooting that he intended to do. I don't mean to continually bring this up today.

Speaker 3 I apologize for it in advance here, Pat, but you've got some speeding tickets in the past. Yeah.
And I really have brought it up several times today, and I apologize.

Speaker 3 However, like... You seem to be a little obsessed with my speeding tickets.
I just think it's one of my, it's the most charming thing about you for some reason.

Speaker 3 I don't know. I just find it funny.
I don't think of you as a person who would just get pulled over for speeding weekly.

Speaker 3 But like,

Speaker 3 it seemed to me for a time there, especially when we first moved to Texas, that every time you went one mile an hour over the speed limit, you got a speeding ticket. Yes,

Speaker 3 and I feel like that happens a lot. I feel like if I roll through a stop sign, there's the police.

Speaker 3 They've got the lights going on.

Speaker 3 This guy posted how many months apart that he was going to do a mass shooting and was buying weapons?

Speaker 3 Why did it get to the second tweet? I don't understand. Yeah, that's kind of amazing, isn't it? And, you know, I don't know.
Did the Mr.

Speaker 3 Satan moniker not alert somebody that something was a little amiss?

Speaker 3 I mean, not only is he Mr. Satan, but he's making threats against the President of the United States and every single person he appointed to

Speaker 3 an office. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 3 yeah. Typically, when you say something like that in public, you get some issues.
I remember back in the 2016 campaign cycle, we were doing a show

Speaker 3 in the other studio here. And Glenn, who I don't know if anyone's noticed this, threatens my life regularly.
No one seems to care. He does it on national radio all the time.

Speaker 3 No one seems to be bothered at all by my life being threatened by Glenn.

Speaker 3 And he

Speaker 3 once again threatened my life on national radio. And someone in the audience took it as a threat not against me, but against one of the candidates.
It might have been Trump. I don't even remember.

Speaker 3 Oh, I remember that. I think it was.

Speaker 3 But Glenn was saying something rude to me and just basically threatened my life. And we laughed about it.

Speaker 3 But someone in the audience thought it was, he was saying that about Donald Trump, that he was going to threaten, I think it was Donald Trump. And

Speaker 3 we had Secret Service contacting us almost immediately. Yeah.
Right. It was like very quick, the same day.
I'd forgotten about that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it was like, again, like as soon as they got here, they saw the context of it. They realized it was moronic.
But still.

Speaker 3 They were that dedicated to make sure a presidential candidate was not.

Speaker 3 Right. You can't just threaten a presidential candidate

Speaker 3 or a president or a member member of the cabinet. And then add on to the fact that I don't know if anyone noticed Donald Trump was almost murdered on stage, almost murdered at his golf course.

Speaker 3 He's had threats against him. His cabinet officials have also had many threats against them.

Speaker 3 Elon Musk is being threatened daily. Daily.
And you'd think it would rise to the level that someone would notice

Speaker 3 a social media public post.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
But apparently not. Apparently not, because he also

Speaker 3 posted, remember, we are the majority. MAGA is a minority of the country.
Obviously, that's not true since, I don't know, the president won the election and the popular vote.

Speaker 3 And by the time it's time to make the move, they will be weakened. Many will be crushed by these policies, and they will want revenge, too.
American Revolution 2.0.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, overthrowing the government.

Speaker 3 He had plenty of opportunity to post messages on YouTube and social media, and it took a while, I guess.

Speaker 3 You can understand, though, in a certain circle, how he would would think that it would be okay to say. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 3 it is happening. Elon Musk is facing this constantly.
President Trump, certainly, and not only in just digital form, but also in actual form, has been, you know, hit with a bullet, literally.

Speaker 3 And I don't know. I mean, you see, after the conversation we had last hour about the guy who killed the United Healthcare CEO,

Speaker 3 there's certain circles where this stuff just gets praised. Yeah.
Like, you're a great person if you do these things. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it's.

Speaker 3 We're at a weird time right now. Very bizarre.
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Speaker 3 That's Pat and Stew for Glenn today.

Speaker 3 Ooh, your girl is being investigated. This is.
Jasmine Crockett? Yep. No.

Speaker 3 Federal Election Commission looking into suspicious Act Blue donations.

Speaker 3 Oh, boy. No way.
Oh, no. That would be hard to believe, wouldn't it? It would be stunning.
She's done anything improper or inappropriate, I can't even imagine it.

Speaker 3 You know, I wouldn't necessarily always recommend a pardon to Donald Trump, but this one I would. Just pardon her, let her stay in office.
If she did something terrible, let her keep going.

Speaker 3 Whatever you need to keep her in the public eye, you figure out a way to do it. And sounding off on a regular basis, like every day.
Every day. At least Monday through Friday.

Speaker 3 The more Jasmine Crockett, the better.

Speaker 3 So apparently the respondents will be notified of the complaint within five business days.

Speaker 3 You'll be notified as soon as the FEC takes final action on your client's complaint. Should you receive any additional information in this matter, please forward it to the office.

Speaker 3 So she's already been warned that they are investigating right now.

Speaker 3 I don't know how much money was involved. Oh, okay.
The bigger picture is that Crockett's campaign received $870,000 in total donations through Act Blue. Come on.
What's $870,000 for Jasmine?

Speaker 3 Let her go. I mean, seriously, it's a drop-in-the-bucket to Act Blue because they had.
Yes. Didn't they have a war chest of something like $2 billion or something? So this is very little.

Speaker 3 This is kind of like the central clearinghouse for all Democratic donations. Yeah.
Act Blue. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It is one. They've had some issues, some questions about their practices.

Speaker 3 And where some of this money is coming from, like foreigners, coming from foreign sources but uh representative crockett through her principal campaign committee respondent respondent jasmine for u.s

Speaker 3 has received thousands of other donations through act blue totaling over eight hundred seventy thousand dollars it is unclear how many of these are similarly fraudulent transactions made in the name of unsuspecting innocent people who did not actually provide the funds.

Speaker 3 Now,

Speaker 3 this has been a charge leveled at Act Blue for a while, but I haven't seen Jasmine Crockett connected with it until just recently. I'm stunned.
I'm stunned. You do stunned.

Speaker 3 In fact, I just find it to be fake.

Speaker 3 Fake news. Fake news.
Let Jasmine cook is what I would say.

Speaker 3 That's what I would say. Well, she's been cooking for a while now.
Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 She's,

Speaker 3 I mean, almost every day she's been cooking up something.

Speaker 3 And she's not alone in, among Democrats, getting donations through the Act Blue portal.

Speaker 3 Republican state attorneys general, as well as the GOP-controlled House Oversight and Accountability Committee, opened an investigation into their fundraising practices. That would be nice.

Speaker 3 If they found something a little bit unusual going on at Act Blue, what a stunning surprise that would be.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 I wouldn't put it past them. I'm blown away, Pat, that anything, anything untoward could possibly be even considered with Act Blue.
They seem like such upstanding individuals. Don't they, though?

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I'm sure every penny has come just completely legitimately.

Speaker 3 I'm sure that's the case. It's an amazing time.
I mean, you talk about all the corruption, obviously, here, potentially, arguably, allegedly. And all the threats.

Speaker 3 I mean, we also, the Josh Shapiro thing is another one.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, somebody tried to set his house on fire or something. I guess did.
He was woke, apparently, woken up in the middle of the night.

Speaker 3 The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, by the way, someone had lit his house on fire. There is, I believe, an arrest already made as a person of interest or something like that.

Speaker 3 They believe it's fine. His family was there.
Yeah, his family was there. They're woken up by the police who said, hey, your house is on fire.

Speaker 3 Pretty serious situation. It's interesting, too.
Like, I mean, you never, you can't, you can't take

Speaker 3 ideology a side of the aisle and say, well, everyone on that side of the aisle never, you know, does

Speaker 3 some horrible thing like an attack. I will say, if it is someone on the conservative side, they will not be lionized for it.
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Speaker 3 They will not be like, oh, it was good that he did that.

Speaker 3 The other side of this is, I can't help going back to the very violent group of people who oppose Josh Shapiro, not because he's a Democrat, but because he's Jewish.

Speaker 3 And

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Speaker 3 And, you you know, he was apparently having Passover dinner, one of the,

Speaker 3 you know, one of the Jewish traditions that he had talked about. It seems like it could be tied to that as well.
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Speaker 3 Next President of the United States of America,

Speaker 3 ESPN Stephen A. Smith is one possibility.
Yeah. I think the odds of that one are.

Speaker 3 I think they're remote.

Speaker 3 Quite remote. Yeah.
Although it does seem like celebrity can do some things for you in elections, right? Like, I mean, it does, it is a, I would say, an important,

Speaker 3 more increasingly important thing. It would be really interesting if an ESPN host became president of the United States.
It would be very interesting. It might be an understatement.

Speaker 3 But I mean, look, we obviously have a current president who is

Speaker 3 a, you would say the same thing. Oh, a reality star becomes president.

Speaker 3 If you have those, if you have the right beliefs and you have the right energy and people get behind you, it could happen.

Speaker 3 It seems unlikely to me. It does.
And Stephen A. Smith, too, is

Speaker 3 he's kind of running, or not running, but he's considering a run based on the idea kind of that the left has gone insane, right? He's saying he's going to run as a Democrat. He's right about that.

Speaker 3 Right, but he's still going to be a single person. The left has gone insane.

Speaker 3 We need someone who's going to, you know, who's going to be truthful, trying to run as a sane Democrat, which, again, those words don't go together very well. Not anymore.
They don't. No.

Speaker 3 But here's what he had to say about running for president, Cut 8.

Speaker 5 I saw you mentioned Bill Maher. I saw Steve Bannon was on with Bill Maher, and he was asked what Democrats he worries about.
And you were the only name he mentioned.

Speaker 5 As a Democrat, he'd be worried about. So

Speaker 5 are you really thinking about running for president? Is this something you think about this?

Speaker 3 Listen,

Speaker 13 I have no choice because I've had elected officials, and I'm not going to give their names, elected officials coming up to me. No choice.
I've had folks who are pundits come up to me.

Speaker 13 I've had folks that got a lot of money, billionaires and others that have talked to me about exploratory committees and things of that nature. I'm not a politician.

Speaker 13 I've never had a desire to be a politician. I I just signed a contract extension with ESPN.
I am very, very happy. Pretty good one, too.
With my day job, I'm very happy with my boss.

Speaker 13 This is a pretty damn good one. Just right.
It's a pretty damn good contract. I couldn't be happier.

Speaker 13 But here's the reality: people, literally, people will have walked up to me, including my own pastor for crying out loud, who has said to me, You don't know what God has planned for you, at least show the respect to the people who believe in you, who respect you, who believe that you can make a difference in this country, to leave the door open for any possibilities two to three three years down the line.

Speaker 13 And that's what I've decided to do.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 3 So people believe in him. Why? Because

Speaker 3 of his opinions on LeBron James versus Michael Jordan. Why do people believe that Stephen A.
Smith can run for president and be a viable alternative?

Speaker 3 I'm a little confused by that.

Speaker 3 He's obviously a good communicator. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I will say the the Stephen A. Smith thing, you know, I wouldn't say that I follow everything that he says particularly closely at this point.

Speaker 3 If he runs for president, I will, I will have an addendum to that policy.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 3 he,

Speaker 3 my impression of Stephen A. Smith is that a good chunk of the stuff that he says, I, you know, is,

Speaker 3 oh, gosh, like you play it, we would play a clip of Stephen A. Smith and be like, can you believe what this guy said? And then there's another piece of the Stephen A.

Speaker 3 Smith audio that would be like, can you believe he said that? That's really true.

Speaker 3 He's like Bill Maher in that way. Yes, okay.
Same thing. Similar thing.

Speaker 3 If you actually watch Bill Maher for an hour every week. You're going to be pissed off.
Yeah. Your impression as a conservative is going to be this is a real liberal.

Speaker 3 But like every single week, the conservative media industry goes through with a fine-tooth comb and pulls out the eight things he says that are like anti-woke. Right.

Speaker 3 Or, you know, and we see, and they get flooded on conservative media. Uh-huh.
I mean, look, Bill Maher still is nowhere close to a person that I would want as president.

Speaker 3 I don't think Stephen Arms, I don't know enough about Stephen A. Smith's politics, honestly, to know, but I don't think I would be aligned with him either.

Speaker 3 But he does seem to occasionally say something like saying he does, right? Yes, that is true. That is true.
He's right, though, in that he just did sign a pretty good agreement with

Speaker 3 ESPN. It's what, 20 million a year? I think is what he's saying.
Just 20 million. Just 20 million a year.

Speaker 3 They're undercutting it again.

Speaker 3 Sad. It is.

Speaker 3 And they lay out,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 I read a decent amount of sports stuff, and there was a lot of complaining about the people they let go at ESPN recently. Yeah.
You know, kind of experts

Speaker 3 because they're going after he's an entertainer. And Stephen A.
Smith, I'm sure he's a smart sports guy. Fully stand with him 100% in whatever argument he had with LeBron James a few weeks ago.

Speaker 9 I don't even know what it was about. Don't care.

Speaker 3 It was him versus LeBron James. I'm with Stephen A.
Smith. That's fine.

Speaker 3 But like

Speaker 3 he is, you know, there's very few people who can arrest the media cycle like he can. That's true.
And I think if I was a Democrat and watched Joe Biden perform terribly, watched Kamala Harris flail,

Speaker 3 watched Hillary Clinton lose to Donald Trump, you could see a portion of that party look at how he arrests the media cycle and how Donald Trump does it. There are some similarities.

Speaker 3 Draw the conclusion that maybe he's the Democrat Trump. Maybe he's the Democrat Trump.
Again, I don't know that that's true, but he gets. It might be.

Speaker 3 He does fly, I think, in the face occasionally of Democratic orthodoxy, which is the same thing Trump did.

Speaker 3 He's always able to kind of, again, why would we care what he says about Ronnie James or whatever that controversy was from a few weeks ago? But it did kind of make a lot of news.

Speaker 3 I think it was

Speaker 3 about Bronnie, LeBron's son,

Speaker 3 and how he, I don't know, said something about him in the NBA. And

Speaker 3 you're not supposed to, LeBron took issue with it because you're not supposed to talk about people's sons or whatever.

Speaker 3 Well, he's in the NBA.

Speaker 3 What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 Exactly. So

Speaker 3 it's like a political figure whose kids have entered the campaign. Of course you're going to take on, you're going to take them on now because they're part of it.

Speaker 3 Well, Bronnie James is in the NBA or was at least. I don't know.
Is he in the G-League now? I don't follow it. he's in a little bit of both.

Speaker 3 I think they call them two-way players, where they're kind of in both. Yeah.
I believe he sits on the bench when they have home games. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 But he jumps in occasionally and

Speaker 3 plays every once in a while. Yeah.
Okay. And blowouts.
Yeah, he'll come in. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I will say. He's still with the Lakers.
He's still with the Lakers. All right.
Can I give you a little bit of an alternative take I've been working on? Yeah. This is going to sound like a Stephen A.

Speaker 3 Smith hot take, but it's not. I legitimately believe this.

Speaker 3 I think Bronny James is a pretty good pick by the Lakers.

Speaker 3 Okay. Why?

Speaker 3 Well, they got him in the late second round. Look at the people who were drafted around him.
Half of them aren't even on rosters anymore. You don't get superstars late in the second round.

Speaker 3 That's probably true. You get nobodies for the most part.

Speaker 3 Now you can pick, and Jokic was a second-round pick occasionally, every once in a very great while, do you find somebody who winds up being a star? If you're lucky.

Speaker 3 It's not like the NFL, where you can get a late-round pick and you're going to find Tom Brady. Right.
It doesn't happen all that often in the NBA.

Speaker 3 And, you know, if you're lucky, you get a rotational player who plays a few minutes here and there, maybe does one thing well, plays defense, you know, hit a corner three, whatever.

Speaker 3 Bronnie James, again, he's, what, 20? I think he's 20 years old.

Speaker 3 He's the son of LeBron James, who I can't stand. However, he obviously has a lineage there.

Speaker 3 He could be a good player. It's theoretically possible.
But he's averaging like over 20 points a game in the G League. Look at the players drafted around them.
Most of them aren't.

Speaker 3 He's one of the better players drafted within 10 picks of that position. And add on to that, he's selling God only knows how many jerseys.

Speaker 3 Every time he comes into the game, if he makes a shot, the crowd goes insane. They don't leave.
when he comes in in a blowout. They stay to watch Bronny James play.

Speaker 3 It probably helps them keep LeBron James, who I will say, as much as I can't stand him, is pretty freaking impressive at 40, whatever years old, playing the way he is.

Speaker 3 They're the number three seed in the West. And honestly, would you be completely stunned if Bronnie James becomes a rotational player in six years?

Speaker 3 He's 20. At 26, maybe he's a halfway okay player.
Maybe he's playing 15 minutes a game for him. Maybe he turns into something.
He's certainly going to get the absolute best instruction.

Speaker 3 He's going to get the absolute best medical care. He's going to be pushed to train at probably incredibly high levels.

Speaker 3 And he's got millions and millions and millions of followers. You're getting all those weird side business benefits from the guy.
Like, who did, who, I think the Celtics had the pick before him.

Speaker 3 Who did they select? Do you know? Do you have his jersey? Does anyone have his jersey? He's probably some superstar.

Speaker 3 No, I don't think I, if I remember right, I don't think, I don't even think he's on the team anymore. Wow.

Speaker 3 So, like, like, and the the other thing about it, which is really frustrating, this is getting a little bit deep into sports, but like the Celtics picked the pick.

Speaker 3 The ultimate rival of the Los Angeles Lakers picked the pick before Ronnie James. How did you not just pick him to screw with the Lakers and LeBron?

Speaker 3 I don't care if you played him for one minute just to screw with your arch rivals.

Speaker 3 Like if

Speaker 3 I don't know, I'm trying to, like,

Speaker 3 I'm a big Eagles fan and can't stand the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 If Dak dak prescott's nephew was there with the last pick in the draft and dak prescott wanted him there so bad i would do it just to screw with him right like that's what you should do instead everyone was like oh gosh lebron james wants his son we should all let him have him like

Speaker 3 that's nuts you're supposed to be competing with this team not helping them yeah and apparently the dallas mavericks have don't understand that concept either

Speaker 3 as one luka donchik yeah apparently not yeah yeah so anyway there's your sports rant of the day.

Speaker 3 But you knew a lot more about the Bronnie James situation than I did. I think it was legitimately the right pick.
A good pick.

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Speaker 3 Pat and Stu, got a little update on the Bronnie James situation, don't you?

Speaker 3 Yeah, the guy with

Speaker 3 the Celtics guy who was picked a pick before him was signed in August by the Celtics and then released in March. So he's not even on the team anymore.
Wow.

Speaker 3 Did anybody pick him up? The Knicks apparently picked him up. His name was

Speaker 3 Anton Watson.

Speaker 3 There's another guy, the guy who was picked after him, is also with the Knicks, by the way, is averaging, I believe, 1.5 points per game and has done the same thing, is playing a superstar.

Speaker 3 No, is what you're saying. The other guy is averaging 0.7 points per game.
This is what you get. I mean, like, it's an incredible achievement to make it to that level in the game.

Speaker 3 And that's a good thing. That's a draft.
Yeah. Yeah.
But, like, you don't expect to get a star. And they got a star.
Yeah. I mean, how many, how many followers does Bronnie James have on Instagram?

Speaker 3 Probably millions. I would bet.
Yeah. Let's see.
Hundreds. 8 million followers on Instagram.
Gosh.

Speaker 4 8 million.

Speaker 3 Just that is worth the pick. Even if he never turns into a player.
Yeah. And why would these other franchises give them this moment? Hey, he wants to play with his dad.
So what?

Speaker 3 You're supposed to be competing with him.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 it's revolting. Yeah, it is.
You should have just come in there and took him just out of spite.

Speaker 3 Just out of spite and just sat on the bench only for Lakers games. They must have thought, no, we can't do that.
That's really, I bet you anything. Out of of respect for LeBron, we can't do that.

Speaker 3 I bet you anything Adam Silver told them not to do it. I'll bet.
That's my conspiracy theory of the day. I don't know if that part of it is true, but I do think that is why it happened.

Speaker 3 If you had a flyer to take late in a draft, why wouldn't you take the son of a top player, even though I don't think he's near the top one player of all time, but he's probably a top 10 guy of all time,

Speaker 3 maybe

Speaker 3 on the Lakers.

Speaker 3 Why wouldn't you take this? I mean, at least the lineage is there.

Speaker 3 Maybe he's trying to, there's a lot of suns. It can be made for that.
I mean, you could, yes, and you have made the case. I think it's a pretty good one.
Pretty good pick, frankly.

Speaker 3 And just, you know, again, these are businesses.

Speaker 3 Watch a highlight, and they will show you the highlights on ESPN. Do they show that of any of these other people? Do they get the highlights on ESPN when they get into the game?

Speaker 3 He hits a wide-open 15-footer. The crowd acts like they just won the championship.

Speaker 3 It's really true. It really is.
I'm I'm not saying he's played well in the NBA, he hasn't, but he's played well in the secondary league, which is all you can hope for for a guy at that point.

Speaker 3 What does he average? 20 points in the

Speaker 3 G points a game, yeah.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, that's not bad. It's not bad.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 3 You didn't think you were getting that today. A defensive Bronnie James.
No. Uh-uh.
No. No, that's quite a surprise.
Quite a surprise.

Speaker 3 Also, in other sports news, Rory McElroy finally won a master's tournament. How about that? That is cool.

Speaker 3 I don't really follow that very closely, but it's kind of cool because he's won all the other majors. There's only three others.
But this is now he's got a career.

Speaker 3 What are they called? Grand Slam or whatever it is. Yeah, career slam.

Speaker 3 Career slamming. Career slam, which is kind of like

Speaker 3 a newish type of thing, which basically. Because nobody wins the actual Grand Slam anymore.
So it's going to be a catarone. That's too hard to do it all in one year.

Speaker 3 So now it's career slam, which in tennis, they do that too. They do.
If you won all four of them, which is an absolutely incredible achievement. I mean, it is.

Speaker 3 It's just not

Speaker 3 the grand slam, which is basically impossible at this point, it seems. Right.
Especially in golf.

Speaker 3 Only six have done it career-wise? Is that right? Wow. It's pretty hard.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 Pretty hard.

Speaker 3 And you think in golf, especially, it seems to me, I'm not a huge golf fan. Like, I don't watch all these.
I mean, I'll tune in for the last route of the masters occasionally, you know.

Speaker 3 When Tigard played, I paid more attention. You pay more attention.
But it is, it does seem to me, as an outsider, to be pretty random.

Speaker 3 Like, you can say, okay, one of these 20 guys is probably going to win. You know, you might be, and like, you know, Scheffler's been one of the best

Speaker 3 golfers over the past few years and won a lot of tournaments, but still, like, the fact that he comes in fourth or fifth is, again, an amazing achievement, but to actually pick the winner, difficult.

Speaker 3 And to win four of them, that's amazing. Really impressive.
And he hadn't won in 11 years or something.

Speaker 3 Yeah, pretty cool. All right.
Hopefully, Glenn's back tomorrow.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 hear from him then.

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